― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 08:33 (nineteen years ago)
― mzui (mzui), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 08:44 (nineteen years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:25 (nineteen years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 09:51 (nineteen years ago)
8. Instant Karma9. Junior's Farm10. Hold On11. Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey12. It Don't Come Easy13. Oh Yoko14. Maybe I'm Amazed
― darin (darin), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago)
― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago)
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago)
― Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago)
― QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:32 (nineteen years ago)
Side OneCome and Get It (Macca)It Don't Come Easy (Starr)Working Class Hero (Lennon)What is Life? (Harrison)Oh Yoko (Lennon)Ram On (Macca)
Side TwoToo Many People (Macca)Instant Karma (Lennon)segue: My Mummy's Dead (Lennon)Under the Mersey Wall (Harrison)
Side ThreeI Found Out (Lennon)Let Me Roll It (Macca)Isolation (Lennon)My Sweet Lord (Harrison)Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey (Macca)Well Well Well (Lennon)
Side FourJet (Macca)Back of Boogaloo (Starr)Wah Wah (Harrison)Mindtrain (Lennon/Yoko)
Side FiveHold On (Lennon)Maybe I'm Aamzed (Macca)Mind Games (Lennon)Junk (Macca)Jealous Guy (Lennon)Smile Away (Macca)
Side SixMother (Lennon)All Things Must Pass (Harrison)Heart of the Country (Macca)Isn't It a Pity (Harrison)Give Peace a Chance (Lennon)Backseat of My Car (Macca)
― QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:46 (nineteen years ago)
― nancyboy (nancyboy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:48 (nineteen years ago)
― nancyboy (nancyboy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:49 (nineteen years ago)
Both of those are on my triple LP.
― QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago)
Yeah... I know.
― nancyboy (nancyboy), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago)
― swvl (vozick), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago)
― petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 21:26 (nineteen years ago)
01 What Is Life?02 Instant Karma03 Maybe I'm Amazed04 Imagine05 My Sweet Lord06 Isolation07 Let 'Em In08 Wah Wah09 Temporary Secretary 10 Jealous Guy11 Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey12 It Don't Come Easy13 Let Me Roll It14 Isn't It A Pity
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 21:47 (nineteen years ago)
You (George)Cold Turkey (John)I’m Carrying (Paul)Hi, Hi, Hi (Paul)Whatever Gets U Thru the Night (John)Old Dirt Road (John)This Hasn’t Happened to Me Before (Paul)
― robertfraser, Tuesday, 1 November 2005 22:51 (nineteen years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 23:02 (nineteen years ago)
I don't think you need to continue that ratio. Part of the fun is creating a hypothetical album that reflects hypothetical changes in the group dynamics, which are extrapolated from what the band was going through near the end. For example, "Mindtrain" can be included because there is a possibility that John would have insisted on including another insanely long-n-experimental piece a la Revolution No. 9. Or, based on how fucking sweet so much of Harrison's early solo work is, maybe he finally convinces Lennon and Macca to include more tunes (especially if it's a double- or triple-LP). Maybe the lack of Lennon material on your hypothetical record could be attributed to all his extra-Beatles activities: drugs, primal scream, Yoko, bed-ins, etc.
― QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 23:27 (nineteen years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago)
― billstevejim (billstevejim), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 23:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 00:22 (nineteen years ago)
― QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 00:32 (nineteen years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 00:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Ben Wilson, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 00:40 (nineteen years ago)
Yeah. "Cold Turkey" was actually rejected as a Beatles single, wasn't it? A lot of the tracks on POB and Imagine could have worked as Beatle songs the way Lennon's tracks on the White Album did, though.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 00:47 (nineteen years ago)
― darin (darin), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 00:56 (nineteen years ago)
― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 01:53 (nineteen years ago)
― M. V. (M.V.), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 02:26 (nineteen years ago)
Summer 1970, Let It Be is released
November 1970, the new album, just in time for the holidays:01 Mother02 Hold On03 It Don't Come Easy04 Awaiting On You All05 Every Night06 Isolation07 Junk
08 either Oo You or That Would Be Something, i can't decide which i can stand more09 Love10 Look At Me11 Maybe I'm Amazed12 All Things Must Pass13 Cold Turkey
In order to make this record look decent, I'm thinking they would have no other choice but to release yet another Let-It-Be-type mess of an album, which is mostly made up of Lennon tracks since there's only 3 good songs on McCartney.
I think a good single to help support this mess would be It Don't Come Easy b/w Cold Turkey.
― billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 02:31 (nineteen years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 02:40 (nineteen years ago)
Actually, I really meant thiswhich I first became aware of because of this
― k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 02:48 (nineteen years ago)
...unfortunately, in trying to construct this, I've completely bogged down, because I'm just not familiar enough with Lennon's work from this period, namely Mind Games. This also turns out to be kind of a bad time for McCartney, the Red Rose Speedway era being not really one of his highest tides. But having racked up a decent spread of solo singles and one great album with Ram he would probably lobby for a decent number of tracks on this thing. In fact, George has probably the best material of anybody at this exact juncture, so he gets three songs - one more than on Abbey Road. I can't see Ringo getting two tracks, so let's say "I'm the Greatest" gets to be the B-side to the thrilling "Live and Let Die" (on which Lennon refuses to play due to its selloutish nature).
SIDE A
Don't Let Me Wait Too LongHi Hi Hi(Lennon song)Single Pigeon(Lennon song)
SIDE B
My Love (with Lennon finally coming up with words for the chorus)Mind GamesSue Me, Sue You Blues (come on, this would be great)C MoonPhotographGive Me Love, Give Me Peace On Earth
One really wonders how much longer this could go on, though. Certainly Lennon's output dropped off considerably, even before his long hiatus, and George and Ringo's careers lost momentum pretty rapidly. But all of them, especially Paul, built up a lot of recorded output in the 70s...would all of those songs have never come into existence? Would their authors have become frustrated all over again?
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 05:07 (nineteen years ago)
― Uncledaddy, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 12:02 (nineteen years ago)
This (RE: "too persanal") has been brought up a couple times, and it's a great point. However, a good portion of Lennon/Macca/Harrison solo output from '69 to '71 were first created (in some form or another) as Beatles music. (This is why it's so good.) So, it isn't too far-fetched to see some of this music as Beatles music. And as somebody else pointed out, the Ringo LP has the other three on it.
BTW- Red Rose Speedway: I gotta admit I think this is one of Macca's better records (which might not be saying much).
― QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 16:59 (nineteen years ago)
Except that "Behind The Closed Door" would not have been sung so badly.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago)
As for the "personal" stuff showing up as Beatles music, I guess what I mean isn't so much that it's impossible to picture the songs as something the Beatles could do together, but that it's impossible to imagine the Beatles being able to carry on as partners without first getting this personal stuff out of their systems AS personal projects. All Things Must Pass was a triple-LP for pete's sake. I think you have to clear that back catalog of stuff before it's plausible that any one of them (except of course dear Ringo) would really be able to say, "OK, I've proved myself to the world, now I'm back to just writing songs that need a good band behind them. And Wings/POB ain't it."
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago)
Or maybe "God" followed by "Isn't It A Pity."
― mike a, Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago)
Might "Apple Jam" have been his "Revolution No. 9" then? And if so, what was Paul's?
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago)
The original double LP version of McCartney II, available on bootlegs.
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 22:37 (nineteen years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 23:00 (nineteen years ago)
I've always enjoyed other people's takes on this concept but never really gave it much thought myself until just recently, probably partly inspired by all the Peter Jackson documentary talk. I liked billstevejim's rule upthread about only using songs released in 1970, but I decided to expand that a bit to include songs that were recorded in 1970 (or earlier), which opens it up to about half the tracks from Ram and gives Paul a much stronger showing. I also liked MaresNest's idea that they would've put out another White Album-style double album.
Don't think I'd ever heard Ringo's "Early 1970" until I started putting this together, but it ended up being kind of a key track in that it allows the album to function loosely as a concept album about the band getting back together for one last album and then saying goodbye ("God") -- the lyrics of "Early 1970" even foreshadow "Hold On" and "Heart of the Country," which show up later in the tracklist. I'm pretty sure I've included all the other songs from this era that are about other Beatles ("Wah-Wah," "Too Many People," "It's Johnny's Birthday") or have otherwise Beatle-related content ("Apple Scruffs," the aforementioned "God").
I ended up leaning hard into the idea of this being a White Album Part 2, so it's got the same running time and the side-lengths are roughly similar. I also incorporated this into the song selection itself, basically thinking about which songs might fit in on an alternate-universe White Album, which is how I ended up with weird little interludes like "Hot as Sun / Glasses." If song quality had been the only factor, I think most of All Things Must Pass would have been on here, but then it wouldn't have felt like a Beatles album. Though I did give George an average of 1.5 songs per side, rather than just 1.
SIDE AInstant Karma!Early 1970Wah-WahToo Many PeopleHot as Sun / GlassesLook at MeEvery Night
SIDE BWhat Is Life?Maybe I'm AmazedI Found OutIt's Johnny's BirthdayUncle Albert / Admiral HalseyHold OnLove
SIDE CWorking Class HeroApple ScruffsIt Don't Come EasyAnother DayIsolationHeart of the CountryMonkberry Moon Delight
SIDE DGive Peace a ChanceBeware of DarknessMy Mummy's DeadJunkAll Things Must PassGodThe Back Seat of My Car
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 18:50 (four years ago)
pretty fantastic list of songs! i don't envy you figuring out how to sequence that, especially with three genuinely perfect "album-closer" type songs to contend with.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 19:06 (four years ago)
I actually prefer the McCartney song to the Lennon, but I'm boggling at the thought of a John Lennon who lets "God" be superseded by "Back Seat of My Car" as the final statement.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 19:12 (four years ago)
Just made an iTunes playlist with this selection. Sounding truly marvelous!
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 19:32 (four years ago)
I think this is something lots of people have done at one point (for me, 10 years ago, living in Beijing) - I ended up making all of these extra LPs, got as far as the eary 80s. Apologies for the gigantic c&p job!
14 - Peace (1967-1970)
01 - Two Virgins (Excerpt)02 - Give Peace A Chance03 - Wah Wah04 - Tabla and Pakavaj05 - That Would Be Something06 - Oo You07 - Drilling A Home08 - I'm A Fool To Care09 - Movement 310 - Cold Turkey11 - No Time Or Space 112 - Instant Karma13 - Momma Miss America14 - Isn't It A Pity15 - Greasy Legs16 - Maybe I'm Amazed17 - No Time Or Space 218 - Listen, The Snow Is Falling
15 - God (1970-1971)
01 - My Sweet Lord02 - Art Of Dying03 - All Things Must Pass04 - Awaiting On You All05 - Hear Me Lord06 - $15 Draw07 - Ram On08 - Uncle Albert - Admiral Halsey09 - Ram On (Thrillington)10 - Mother11 - Working Class Hero12 - I Found Out13 – God
16 - Out of the Blue (1970-1971)
01 - Too Many People02 - Let It Down03 - Hold On04 - Apple Scruffs05 - Dear Boy06 - It Don't Come Easy07 - Isolation08 - Out Of The Blue09 - I'd Have You Anytime10 - The Back Seat of My Car11 - Power To The People12 - Eat at Home13 - God Save Oz14 - Oh Woman, Oh Why15 - Early 1970
17 - War is Over (1971)
01 - Imagine02 - Bangla Desh03 - Jealous Guy04 - Oh Yoko!05 - Gopala Krishna06 - Mumbo07 - Give Me Some Truth08 - Bip Bop09 - Oh My Love10 - How Do You Sleep11 - How12 - Deep Blue13 - Love Is Strange14 - Happy Xmas (War Is Over)
18 - Make Chains With The Morning Dew (1972-1973)
01 - Big Barn Bed02 - Woman is the Nigger of the World03 - Don't Let Me Wait Too Long04 - Angela05 - Back Off Boogaloo06 - Mama's Little Girl07 - Mama, You've Been On My Mind08 - Sisters, O Sisters09 - Seaside Woman10 - Sunday Bloody Sunday11 - The Luck Of The Irish12 - Give Ireland Back To The Irish13 - Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth)14 - Hi, Hi, Hi
19 - Over the Hill (1973)
01 - Live and Let Die02 - Bring On The Lucie (Freda Peeple)03 - I'm The Greatest04 - Be Here Now05 - Aisumasen (I'm Sorry)06 - I Lie Around07 - Night Out08 - Nutopian International Anthem09 - Photograph10 - Helen Wheels11 - Mind Games12 - Living In The Material World13 - Out The Blue14 - You Are Here15 - You And Me (Babe)
20 - Band On The Run (1973-1974)
01 - Band on the Run02 - Ding Dong, Ding Dong03 - Occapella04 - Jet05 - You Can't Catch Me06 - Here We Go Again07 - Mrs. Vandebilt08 - Bony Moronie09 - Mamunia10 - Be My Baby11 - Only You (And You Alone)12 - Bluebird13 - Far East Man14 - Nineteen Hundred and Eighty Five
21 - Lost Weekend (1974)
01 - #9 Dream02 - Surprise, Surprise (Sweet Bird of Paradox)03 - Bless You04 - Hari's On Tour (Express)05 - Junior's Farm06 - Whatever Gets You Through The Night07 - Snookeroo08 - Going Down on Love09 - Scared10 - A Toot and a Snore11 - Zoo Gang12 - Soily13 - Dark Horse14 - Nobody Loves You When You're Down And Out15 - (It's All Da-Da-Down To) Goodnight Vienna
22 - A Dose of Rock 'n Roll (1975)
01 - Venus and Mars02 - Rock Show03 - Love in Song04 - You05 - Do You Want to Dance06 - Ain't That A Shame07 - A Dose of Rock 'n Roll08 - Rip It Up - Ready Teddy09 - Be Bop A Lula10 - Stand By Me (Studio Tape)11 - Stand By Me12 - This Guitar (Can't Keep From Crying)13 - Let's Love14 - Tired Of Midnight Blue15 - The Answer's At The end16 - Call Me Back Again
23 - Message To Joe (1975-1976)
01 - Let'em In02 - Woman Don't You Cry For Me03 - Move Over Ms. L04 - Dear One05 - Magneto And Titanium Man06 - Las Brisas07 - Bridge On The River Suite08 - It's What You Value09 - Mucho Mungo10 - Walking In The Park With Eloise11 - Pure Smokey12 - Beware My Love
24 - Real Loud (1977-1979)
01 - Sean's Loud02 - Morse Moose and The Grey Goose03 - Cafe on the Left Bank04 - Not Guilty05 - Deliver Your Children06 - Living in a Pet Shop07 - Girls' School08 - Mo09 - I've Had Enough10 - Who Needs a Heart11 - Flying Hour12 - Cuff Link13 - Here Comes The Moon14 - Mull Of Kintyre15 - It's Real
25 - Serve Yourself (1979-1980)
01 - Reception02 - Getting Closer03 - Faster04 - Kiss Kiss Kiss05 - Serve Yourself06 - Spin It On07 - Every Man Has A Woman Who Loves Him08 - Daytime Nightime Suffering09 - Stranger's Room10 - Soft-Hearted Hana11 - So Glad To See You Here12 - The Broadcast13 - Wonderful Christmastime14 - Blow Away15 - Beautiful Boy (Darling Boy)
26 - Starting Over (1980-1981)
01 - (Just Like) Starting Over02 - Coming Up03 - Blood From A Clone04 - Check My Machine05 - Give Me Something06 - Temporary Secretary07 - Frozen Jap08 - Attention09 - Blue Sway10 - Unconsciousness Rules11 - Bogey Music12 - Secret Friend13 - All Those Years Ago14 - Watching The Wheels15 - Yes, I'm Your Angel16 - Bogey Wobble
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 19:39 (four years ago)
Camaraderie I remember a blog abt that long ago that was doing a similar project, could that have been you?
I love this idea but have never gone deep enough into the solo beatles catalog to try it myself
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 20:04 (four years ago)
Never did a blog, no, think I vaguely remember seeing one.
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 20:05 (four years ago)
probably a bunch that were doing that tbh. i thought of it bc the one i remember had titles for all the discs like that. now that i think of it, iirc at one point in the timeline they started including ELO songs on the theory that Jeff Lynne would have been producing them and eventually would have started bringing song ideas, lol
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 20:09 (four years ago)
Perhaps you were thinking of Albums That Never Were, which compiled its own series of "if they stayed together" LPs here?
― blatherskite, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 20:11 (four years ago)
xp oh god I would never have done that, though I would have included travelling wilburries and firemen. actually did some re-editing on a few tracks, never got around to making covers
― ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 20:14 (four years ago)
xp not the one i'm thinking of but that was a great blog that i forgot all about!
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 20:14 (four years ago)
Yeah, I thought of Albums That Never Were as soon as I saw this thread, re "What If The Beatles Never Broke Up?":Good Night Vienna collects the highlights of the various Beatles solo material from and around 1974 into one cohesive album, which followed the previous four re-imagined 1970s Beatles albums: Instant Karma!, Imagine Clouds Dripping, Living In The Material World and Band On The Run, chronologically.https://albumsthatneverwere.blogspot.com/search?q=Beatles
Also, his brand new, related project:This is a reconstruction of the proposed 1974 live in-the-Abbey Road studio album One Hand Clapping by Paul McCartney & Wings. Originally meant as the studio rehearsals for a 1974 Wings Over Australia tour that never happened, the proceedings were filmed for a possible film release, akin to The Beatles’ Get Backproject eight years earlier. Despite the high quality of live studio performances—especially of the then-unreleased “Soily”--McCartney shelved the entire project, as was the fate of a number of other self-financed Wings film projects throughout the 70s and 80s. This reconstruction attempts to replicate what a double-LP release in 1974 could have been like, using the best possible sources, including official releases and painstakingly-remastered bootleg recordings. All tracks have been sequenced in the actual recording order, spread across four sides of a vinyl record. He always goes for the best sources, and tweaks them when thinks it nec.http://albumsthatneverwere.blogspot.com/2020/11/paul-mccartney-wings-one-hand-clapping.html
― dow, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 21:17 (four years ago)
I listened to some of this 1970 running order, and the transition from Look at Me to Every Night was unexpectedly very moving.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 21:27 (four years ago)
"what is Life" and "Maybe I'm Amazed" side by side are perfect: George and Paul answering each other, with hugs.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 21:29 (four years ago)
since this is the currently running beatles solo material thread. I need to say: Paul McCartney definitely plagiarized "heavy things" by phish in his new album.
― kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 21:33 (four years ago)
What would be best before and after "Blue Jay Way"? I couldn't leave that one out.
― dow, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 21:34 (four years ago)