Where is the Love For All These Bands from my "F" CD Shelves Who Don't Get Mentioned Nearly Enough on ILM?

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fabulous disaster
factrix*
rose falcoln
fanny grace
mylene farmer
farmer's market
faster pussycat*
fatso jetson
fatty koo*
federation*
felipe & forte
fey
field mob*
fieldwork
15.60.75 (a/k/a the numbers band)
fifty tons of black terror
fisher
k.c. flight
fluffy
fluke
henry flynt*
fm bats
f-minus
fm knives
fobia
frankie ford
fortran 5
josephine foster & the supposed*
foxy*
14 iced bears
45 grave
cleve francis
stan freberg*
free fall
fred frith*
the frost
fruit bats*
fugi

* - qualifications for this list possibly marginal at best.

― xhuxk, Friday, 25 November 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Frankie Ford?

"Ooo weee! Ooo wee baybeh!"

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

oops I spelled ROSE FALCON and K.C. FLIGHTT wrong, sorry.

― xhuxk, Friday, 25 November 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Farmer's Market as in the Norwegian "speed balkan boogie" band?

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Mylène Farmer gets a fair bit of love here, here and here.

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

(I also like how around the year 2000 she did a "Mylenium Tour")

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

15.60.75 (a/k/a the numbers band) fuggin' rulz.

― bobby.lasers, Friday, 25 November 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

I was listening to that Frankie Ford album yesterday. Unless there's another one I don't know about.

― k/l (Ken L), Friday, 25 November 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

Fred Frith went to my old school. He's the only even vaguely well-known musician who ever did, though.

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 25 November 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

yes, that farmer's market (though are they really all that speedy? hmmm..)

the frankie ford i have is an 18-song best of CD on music club.

and i sincerely apologize for neglecting to supply mylene farmer her rightful asterisk.

― xhuxk, Friday, 25 November 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

I don't know Fortran 5 as well as I could/should, but their immediate precursor band I Start Counting was pretty cool. There's a comp on Mute somewhere.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 November 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

I have something called Let's Take A Sea Cruise With Frankie Ford, I think. I believe the band is Huey "Piano" Smith and the Clowns. The title track is of course the standout, but there is some other good stuff on there as well, including "Roberta," cited by Greil Marcus in the Treasure Section of Stranded, and "Alimony" about a monkey who wants "under-alimony"? Please explain.

― k/l (Ken L), Friday, 25 November 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I get it now. He's "wanted under alimony."

― k/l (Ken L), Friday, 25 November 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

45 Grave: Campy LA early Halloweenish and Goth hard rock band with Dinah Cancer. Had a single on a hit zombie movie in the '80's -- "Partytime," I think, which was very un Goth and Halloweenish and one I liked. The kids who will basically wind up getting torn apart in the movie dance in a graveyard to it, if I recall. Came off an album tha was hit and miss, mostly miss. There theme song, "45 Grave" was OK, too.

Fatso Jetson: unusual band associated with stoner rock. Wanted to buy an album by theirs in a store but diddle-daddled so long, when I went back it was gone. Weren't they on Bong Load?

Factrix: SF noise band. File with Monte Cazzazza and Z'ev. Used to really like that stuff when I was twennyfive. No I can't listen to it.

The Frost: Dick Wagner and Dan Hartman hard rockers from Michigan. Same time period as Frijid Pink. Better that late Frijid Pink but never did anything quite as good as the remake of "House of the Rising Son." Wagner's next band was Ursa Major, which I liked better.
Then, along with Steve Hunter, he wound up as hard rock axeman to the stars like Lou Reed, Alice Cooper, even Peter Gabriel on the first solo album.

― George the Animal Steele, Friday, 25 November 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

Fortran 5 did this completely silly cover version of Pink Floyds "Bike" subtitled "Sid sings Syd", the vocals being provided by cutting up & then stitching together samples of Sid James. God knows how long it took them to put together.

― zappi (joni), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

15.60.75--David Thomas has given this band so much love that nobody else ever needs to. (I do kinda like that album, though.)

Frankie Ford remakes "Sea Cruise" on the new Jimmy Sturr album, as a polka. First time as tragedy, second time as farce, something like that? I do love his stuff with Huey "Piano" Smith, but then I love everything Huey "Piano" Smith has ever done.

Never quite got Fred Frith until I saw him play live with Zorn and somebody else a few years ago. Then suddenly his stuff clicked for me. He's one of those people I think needs good collaborators to get him operating at top capacity, though.

― Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I have (or possibly had) that Fortran 5 album and that Sid-Syd thing is the only thing I remember off it. I think the rest is just sort of OK early '90s electronica. I had a Fluffy album once, but not for long. They seemed like the Donnas with fewer tunes.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

fortran 5 - bike (sid sings syd for the curious

― zappi (joni), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

Only Fortran 5 I own (only Fortran 5 I've ever heard, I believe) is an excellent 1991 CD single called "Heart on the Line." I like it better than anything on the I Start Counting best-of *Catalogue* I also own, though I do like the latter, especially the opener "Still Smiling." I never realized until now that there was a connection between the two groups, but it totally makes sense.

And yes, the Fatso Jetson album I've got, *Toasted* from 1998, is on Bongload. Stoner rock via early Pere Ubu or something -- very cool.

― xhuxk, Friday, 25 November 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

I liked that Factrix/Cazzazza (sp?) thing were Cazzazza (sp?) reads from the diary of Exene Xervanka's (sp?) sister, "Prescient [sp?] Dreams."

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Fred Frith has his own thread and all. I guess that's what you meant by qualifications being marginal: not marginal enough.

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 25 November 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

Faster Pussycat's first album was one of the highlights of the post-GNR LA hard rock scene. (Which, I guess, is now considered "hair metal" by people who dislike both.)

― J.D. Considine, Friday, 25 November 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

[Sorry, hit "submit" by mistake] Anyway, I particularly liked the opening song, which I believe was called "Bathroom Wall" and concluded with the couplet, "I got her number off a bathroom wall/It wouldn't have happened if I used another stall." Classic.

― J.D. Considine, Friday, 25 November 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

I'm pretty sure Henry Flynt's had some love around ILM, but a bit more can't hurt can it? Great hillbilly violin drone music, like Tony Conrad at the Grand Ol' Opry circa 1955. You Are My Everlovin' / Celestial Power is the best release I've heard by him.

Fred Frith, what can I say, one of my favourite guitarists ever. Henry Cow, Art Bears, loads of great great solo releases.

Did Fortran 5 do that track based around a sample of Ain't Talkin' Bout Love or was that someone else?

― Matt #2 (Matt #2), Friday, 25 November 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

"I got her number off a bathroom wall/It wouldn't have happened if I used another stall."

Ah, Taime. Master of the poetry of leering filth.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 25 November 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

Faster Pussycat's second, *Wake Me When It's Over* is actually their great one; first one is still really good, though. The one I have on CD, strangely, is their third, *Whipped,* not as good as the first two but also not bad. (The first two I still have on vinyl.)

>I guess that's what you meant by qualifications being marginal: not marginal enough.<

Well, yeah, I guess. What I mean is that those guys are marginally qualified for the list at the top of the thread, since they probably get mentioned on ILM more than the other guys on the list (except, um, Mylene Farmer.)

― xhuxk, Friday, 25 November 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

I saw Fred Frith with Zorn, Laswell, Dave Lombardo and Eye. He was practically inaudible.

― pdf (Phil Freeman), Friday, 25 November 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

14 Iced Bears are a band I'm appreciating more after hearing their In the Beginning comp of early singles and Peel sessions. Decent late-80's fuzzy UK indie pop, probably associated with the early Sarah label in many minds, although I think they released only one of their singles.

― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Friday, 25 November 2005 21:55 (twenty years ago)

"House of Pain" and "Hot Number," hallelujah

― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Friday, 25 November 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

I've been meaning to listen to Fluffy. I think my housemate has an album or two. I checked out Faster Pussycat but they don't do that much for me.

Frankie Ford's album is a gas.

― 'Twan (miccio), Friday, 25 November 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)

If I had a pet cat I'd name it "Taime" though.

― 'Twan (miccio), Friday, 25 November 2005 22:57 (twenty years ago)

Screw Joe Walsh, screw Peter Frampton, and especially screw Richie Sambora: Foxy's "Get Off" is THEE greatest justification of talk-box guitar ever! Not to mention one of the all-time great examples of "party-in-the-background rock" - or funk, or disco, whatever. (Just an accident that it went unmentioned in that particular chapter of "Accidental Evolution", right Chuck?)

― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Saturday, 26 November 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

I have two Stan Freberg discs.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 26 November 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)

Field Mob's From the Roota to the Toota is nonstop catchy! I can't believe people don't talk it up more. Though I don't know what rootas or tootas are.

― dr. phil (josh langhoff), Saturday, 26 November 2005 04:28 (twenty years ago)

roota = front end of a pig
toota = rear end of a pig

So does that make Field Mob the Coolest Rap Group Ever, or what??

― xhuxk, Saturday, 26 November 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)

just when i think i've got a handle on the slang...

― dr. phil (josh langhoff), Saturday, 26 November 2005 04:43 (twenty years ago)

If you haven't heard 45 Grave's Autopsy LP you're seriously missing out, it's great slashing guitar punk with shit loads of energy, nothing like their proper releases.

14 Iced Bears early stuff that's on the In THe Beginning CD is good but not brilliant. Fans of the Wedding Present should check it out, but stay away from the other compilation "Let the breeze open their hearts" cos that's all rubbish.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Saturday, 26 November 2005 04:48 (twenty years ago)

"Only Fortran 5 I own (only Fortran 5 I've ever heard, I believe) is an excellent 1991 CD single called "Heart on the Line.""

i love this too. i have the 12-inch. moby did one of the remixes, but the non-moby versions are way better. i think i started a numbers band thread, but maybe not. i started a fatty koo thread for sure.

― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 26 November 2005 05:00 (twenty years ago)

xpost Douglas, you might check the Step Across The Border soundtrack (of the doc about Frith): he's with a dif combo on just about every track, I think, and there's a bunch of tracks. Somehow I've never heard much Cow, but he's good on Material's Memory Serves and One Down (he guests on there), and V-Effect's Stop Those Songs, about half the Massacre (their own LP, haven't heard the split with Material), and the first Golden Paliminos and yeah this is prob all over ILM so I better shut up.xxhuxx stole 45 Grave's name for his singles column in Creemetal. You've got the one by Fugi where he's backed by Black Merda? How is that?! (Their The Folks From Mother's Mixer twofer is great,thanxx!)

― don, Saturday, 26 November 2005 06:47 (twenty years ago)

half the Massacre? Frith and Laswell are on all the Massacre albums, I believe, though the first one (Killing Time) is the only really great one, serious guitar god stuff there. He's not on the first Golden Palominos album, might've been Arto Lindsay you were hearing. I'm sure there's lots of love for Frith on ILM, but I'm also confident that it falls far short of what this wondrous creature deserves (though recent years have found him making rather dour music...)

45 Grave were much much better than that "Sleep in Safety" album, it's true. Paul B. Cutler was another guitar god.

― These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Saturday, 26 November 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

After Fortran 5, they turned into Komputer, didn't they? I remember proclaiming ISC/F5/K to be the Steve Forbert of the Mute Records roster on ILM once.

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Saturday, 26 November 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, I reviewed Komputer (along with the Need, and um, Mocket maybe? Or Octant? One of those kinda outfits) for Spin once, at the opening cusp of the proto-electroclash new wave robo-rock revival before anybody else seemed to know it was coming. Had no idea they had anything to do with Fortran 5, either! Guess I should start reading press releases.

― xhuxk, Saturday, 26 November 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

xpost I meant I liked about half of Killing Time, but I know I should listen again. He is on the first, s/t Golden Palominos:plays guitar and violin on "Clean Plate" and "Two Sided Fist" guitar on "I.D." xxhuxx, back in the 80s,when I taped you the Numbers Band's Jimmy Bell's and that later one, with "High Heels Are Dangerous," which was kinda Graham Parker and the Rumour meets Huey Lewis and the News, we kinda preferred the later one. Haven't heard that in a while, but Jimmy Bell's, finally on CD, still seems more notable as a milestone ("Velvet Underground meets Grateful Dead?" xgau mused;decided "no," but close as we could get then), than it ever did as exciting listening experience. Although it's okay, and good to not have to get up and change sides, cause it does gain from the flow, Joe.

― don, Sunday, 27 November 2005 01:04 (twenty years ago)

15.60.75 - If David Thomas hasn't said it, I have.

I almost bought a $3 fluffy rec. once .. and then I remembered why I knew who they were... and decided I didn't need to know any more. Hope I didn't pass anything up important...

― D.I.Y. U.N.K.L.E. (dave225.3), Sunday, 27 November 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)

Faster Pussycat's "House of Pain" was a pretty sad Ratt-style ballad - I don't think I've heard anything else by them.

I once bought the Field Mob CD on eBay, and got the correct CD case with a CD-R by some other group in it.

Fluffy are fairly rockin' but short on truly memorable songs. Christgau overrates them like crazy (though not as much as he overrates the Go-Betweens).

Fluke does that "Atom Bomb" thing on the MTV's Amp album, right? That's a decent one.

Let's Take A Sea Cruise With Frankie Ford is a fun record with a snazzy cover (dapper Frankie with a woman in each arm) and now I know where "Wrong 'em Boyo"'s horn riffs come from.

I once heard Stan Freberg's "The Old Payola Roll" on CBC's Night Lines - I gotta admit it's pretty funny even if you disagree with the rock and roll-bashing sentiment.

― Patrick (Patrick), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

>Christgau overrates [Fluffy] like crazy (though not as much as he overrates the Go-Betweens).<

Actually, this is true. (Fluffy *wish* they were half as good as Girlschool. But I still like them at least as much as Sleater-Kinney.)

>Fluke does that "Atom Bomb" thing on the MTV's Amp album, right?<

Right. Also "Absurd" a year later, which sounded similar but almost as good and was also apparently about Big Bird, though who knows why.

― xhuxk, Monday, 28 November 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

Wait did Fluffy have an album or a song called "Black Eye"? I bought it on Xgau's rec, and it was pretty good, but I kind of forgot about it. Maybe I prefer Sahara Hotnights.

― k/l (Ken L), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

yeah, that's them. *Black Eye* is good, but their earlier *5 Live* EP is even better. (The former's in storage; latter's still on my shelf.)

― xhuxk, Monday, 28 November 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

FM Knives Useless and Modern is definitely deserving of more love. Green Day wish they could write pop-punk tunes this catchy.

― o. nate (onate), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

The only 45 Grave stuff I know was from a mixtape someone made me with songs about "non-carbonated, poly-unsaturated blood" and one other goofy thing. I thought they were kinda a novelty girl group with gothy themes until I heard that they were generally serious and boring. I don't know how true that assessment is, but they're one of those bands that I keep in a mental list to look for in used stores...

And is that The Frost the Scandinavian one or the one from Michigan? One of the earlier posters gave a pretty good description of the one from around here, but I remember there being a black metal band that goes by The Frost too...

― js (honestengine), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

Frost = the one from Michigan

― xhuxk, Monday, 28 November 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

The only 45 Grave stuff I know was from a mixtape someone made me with songs about "non-carbonated, poly-unsaturated blood" and one other goofy thing.

That song is from the Darker Skratcher sampler, which I think pre-dates any 45 Grave album (also, it may be a cover of some 60s novelty song, but I'd have to check). By the time they got around to making LPs, they had gotten more serious and harder rocking, and were pretty hit-or-miss on full-lengths.

― nickn (nickn), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

That's a shame. I think I'd like that goofy sound more than the serious stuff...

― js (honestengine), Thursday, 1 December 2005 05:09 (twenty years ago)

Note to George upthread: 45 Grave's "Party Time" wasn't just off "some zombie movie", dude. That was Return of the Living Dead, my friend. The naked punk girl dances on a tombstone to it! It's classic! Sorry. It's a damn cool song, and a hella fun movie.
"Send More Cops"...

― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 05:27 (twenty years ago)

No, what I wrote was: Had a single on a hit zombie movie in the '80's -- "Partytime"... "Hit" covers it nicely. In other matters, Roky Erickson's "Burn the Flames" was also on the soundtrack, played when one guy fired up the cremation oven to end his own existence before he was totally zombied. Or something along that line.

― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 1 December 2005 05:32 (twenty years ago)

Darker Skratcher (1980) does pre-date 45 Grave's first album (1983), but it was not representative of their live sound even then (nor was their cut on the LAFMS Emergency Light Bulb cassette). They were smart enough not to put their punk/metal/goth stuff on LAFMS compilations (see the 1981 Hell Comes to Your House compilation or "Black Cross" 7" for that sound). They rocked pretty damn hard even then, but they had a sense of humor, which as far as I can tell never really deserted them. I mean "Party Time" is itself pretty campy... I think their Goth pose was a bit less earnest than that of, say, Christian Death.

― These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Thursday, 1 December 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)

.. I think their Goth pose was a bit less earnest than that of, say, Christian Death.

Indeed. Their batting average was better on my turntable than Only Theatre of Pain.

― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 1 December 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

After doing some looking around, Riboflavin is the song I was thinking of. Which is on Sleep in Safety. I guess I gotta go off to the YSI request thread now...

― js (honestengine), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

but the version on Darker Skratcher is much much better. I can upload it on that thread if no one has already

― These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

Cool, yeah, thanks.

― js (honestengine), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:52 (twenty years ago)

You're really barrel-scraping now. Dinah Cancer was in Penis Flytrap for a while. The pictures made it look like it was poor woman's or man's 45 Grave.

― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

I always thought "Dinah Cancer" was the best punk name in the LA scene. Or maybe anywhere.

― nickn (nickn), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

Not quite!

― Dinah Out, Friday, 2 December 2005 02:45 (twenty years ago)

Dinah Cancer did pretty well as a vocalist considering she was basically tone deaf and, let's say, rhythmically challenged. She did look really good in the lady vampire getups...

― These Robust Cookies (Robust Cookies), Friday, 2 December 2005 07:11 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

revive

― skogsturken, Thursday, 25 March 2010 02:54 (fifteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUxADCsPV8s

― revive, Thursday, 25 March 2010 05:02 (fifteen years ago)

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