Chinese Democracy has a release date!

oh, it's a funny.

-- The Man Who Cried "Wolf!" (buckethea...), January 11th, 2005.

fuck i missed it.

Am I the first person to make that joke?...

Oh...never mind.

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Sigh...

However, i had my doubts today when richard fortus, the g n r rhythm guitraist stated he was going back to do some recording with guns n roses after his side project finishes in december. So whats the deal? Unless he is just involved with the mixing and finishing touches? see www.heretodaygonetohell.com to check out the richard fortus news for yourself.

Alex I think it might be something of an event, and certainly I'm more curious to hear it than I would have been if it'd come out three years after the Illusion discs - though obviously the problem is that nobody under thirty-five would really give a shit

New G'nR album: "almost like doom metal"
Artists: Guns N Roses

The new Guns N' Roses album, Chinese Democracy, has received the seal of approval from former Skid Row man Sebastian Bach. And he knows a thing or two 'bout The Rock.

The long-awaited album, which must've been started back when Axl Rose looked like that, is out next month. Apparently. Bach heard the record from start to finish at Rose's mansion in Malibu.

"It's fucking epic," said Bach. "It was mind-blowing. It's a very cool album - it's badass with killer screams and killer guitar riffs, but it's got a totally modern sound.

"There's this one song called 'Sorry', that's almost like doom metal with Axl singing really clean over this grinding, slow beat that is fucking mean. I cannot get it out of my head."

The unofficial, not-yet-confirmed release date for Chinese Democracy is November 21. Don't hold your breath.

Sorta kinda, in a morbidly curious way.

Being excited by something Sebastian Bach likes is forbidden by law.

I can imagine him getting excited if he sees a swinging gate.
And just imagine his reaction if he saw a bendy bus.

Hearing one aging rocker describe the album of another aging rocker this way almost guarantees that it's shit.

Looks like a NYPost headline if I ever saw one.

I listened to one song, couldn't get any further. this kind of whiteboy bombast just ain't my thing.

I'll stick to listening to "D'Ya Know What I Mean?".

zots otm

I saw a whole rack of these in HMV yesterday.

How to look like "just another album"

Possibly because I don't care about them.

Carry on.

Carry On Guns N' Roses starring Sid James as Axl Rose, now there would have been a thing.

Terry Scott as 'Lord' Buckethead...

The name "Izzy Stradlin" is worthy of Talbot Rothwell.

Bernard Breslaw as Slash (they can do the Sid'n'Bernie double act thing).
Charles Hawtrey as Dizzy Reed.
Barbara Windsor as Stephanie Seymour.

Sid: "Now Bernie, trust me. I'm going to put a string section on this track."
Bernie: "Oh no, Sid, I... don't think you should do that!"
Sid: "It'll be alright. A string section is supposed to be relaxing!"
Bernie: "But Sid, when I like to relax, I like to be standing in front of a wall of Marshall amps."
Sid: "Bernie Bernie Bernie... Where's your sense of adventure? You can relax listening to a string section. Just put your hands behind your back, like Prince Philip..."

(Bernie puts hands behind back not realising that Stephanie Seymour is busy setting up her equipment behind him)
Babs: "COR BLIMEY WHO JUST SQUEEZED ME WAH WAH PEDAL?"
Trombone: "wah wah wah waaaah"

It would be great if it turns out that Chinese Democracy syncs to Carry On Camping (like Dark Side Of The Moon/Wizard Of Oz is urban legended to)

Seen on Sunday around 6.30p, down Sydney Road (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Road); four bikers, one with sidecar, all with 'Chinese Democracy' flags on the back of their bikes. I was listening to Genesis at the time.

Streaming this on myspace and liking it

This I Love = awesome

I guess my only thing I find lacking that was there in the old GnR is that unified band sound. As inexact as all the "protools" criticism is, I do agree that he uses too many different sounds and effects.

that outro on "prostitute" is LUSH. one of the best moments on the album, one of the moments where he really gets maximalism right.

also there's a bit of this going on in the beat:

and some madonna "oh father"

At first I thought it was pretty meh and ridiculous (the way he sings the first lines of street of dreams keeps making me laugh as it reminds me of the comparison with the puppet rock opera in "forgetting sarash marshall"). I didn't hear any good songs/hooks. But after a few listens, I've got to admit I really like it and I've already listened to the whole album many times (a thing I have never been able to do with the "Use your illusions"). Funny how the songs open up after a while.

i was saddened by a vinyl copy of this record the other day. stumbling across it, i felt that i should look away in order to spare the moment some vague yet bruising humiliation. it seemed so bereft, like what if you saw and old friend from way back panhandling in a pool of his or her own special warm urine? would you say something, do something, or would you just AVOID AVOID AVOID!!! (?)

i mean, i knew it was out because i wasted all that time trying to get free dr pepper, but it still kinda took me by surprise is all

Given the interest in the Christian Bale rant, I was going to link to an Axl rant on Youtube... but there are dozens of them!

weird factoid about all those vinyl copies of the album that Best Buy stocked: Chinese Democracy was actually the 3rd highest selling vinyl album of 2008 (behind In Rainbows and a reissue of Abbey Road). only took 13 thousand copies to get there, but still.

actually, that makes me feel better about the chinese democracy album i saw, like it's not really homeless or anything, it's just doing its thing, and it's totally not my thing, but we can still be people with each other. if we want to

Christgau:

Guns N' Roses
"Chinese Democracy"
(Geffen)

Hopeless eccentric spends most of his adult life and a large chunk of his ill-gotten fortune trying to make the perfect album. Succeeds, kind of, on his own totally irrelevant terms. Nobody cares. Since he's no longer capable of leading young white males astray, this effort isn't just pleasurable artistically. It's touching on a human level. Noble, even. I didn't think he had it in him.

Grade: B PLUS

Heard a rumour its gonna be released this year!

lol g1

Somebody should start a Chinese Democracy II thread.

This album is truly great. Scraped is pretty weak though; basically should have just been an instrumental on a Buckethead solo album.

I still can't believe this happened.

yeah, it's like I remember 5 years of buildup but barely remember an album

china could actually have democracy by the time this thing... oh wait.

Duke Nukem Forever got cancelled.

remember when people cared about this?

Already £5 in Fopp!

tbh the most worthwhile aspect of this whole debacle was the Dr. Pepper thing. Anyone know how many Chinese Democracy Peppers were actually consumed?

Because unlike Guns n Roses, the superiority of Dr. Pepper never expires!

Remember the time.

duke nukem forever is back on, axl just cancelled a tour via twitter.

i still haven't heard a note of this album.

will still rep for 'better'

has aged poorly

it's only two years old!

A good record. And respect to Axl, btw, for not falling prey to "loudness war" bullshit - whether you like the music or not, the mastering on the thing is terrific.

it's only two 10+ years old!

let's be honest here

lol true but I was presuming you meant it sounded good 2 years ago

best buy still desperately trying to move vinyl copies of this

haha I've seen em there lying unsold

xxp - At the time, I gave it a fair chance. The parts of the album that endure for me are Axl's weirdo genre collisions - which is to say that I like the album best when it sounds nothing like Gn'R, but most of the rock and metal elements just ring hollow imo. I agree that "Better" is the standalone classic.

best buy still desperately trying to move vinyl copies of this

― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, August 18, 2010 2:07 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there must be acres of landfill populated entirely with vinyl copies of this godforsaken thing

I'm glad this album exists, but couldn't really imagine ever listening to it again.

but most of the rock and metal elements just ring hollow

I don't know, some of the 'Axl being over the top Axl' bits work, but I generally agree that the less it sounds like GNR the better the results.