palais schaumberg: c/d, s/d, ysi

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there is no thread dedicated to kompakt luminary thomas fehlman's first project. so what's the lp to start with with these dudes?

― the dynastic baconian, Saturday, 31 December 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

I don't know, but "Wir Bauen Eine Stadt" on the definitive vinyl neu deutsche welle compilation *Deustchland Deutschland* (Das Buro/Cachalot, 1982) is quite good. My favorite songs on it though are "Fred Von Jupiter" by Die Doraus Und Die Marinas and "Ja! Ja! Ja!" by Ja Ja Ja. Also features Der Plan, Malaria, Pyrolator, Einsturzende Neubauten, KFC, and der rest of der gang.

― xhuxk, Saturday, 31 December 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

www.tapeterecords.de -- Released their 1981 recordings on a s/t 2002 CD. Holger Hiller's solo stuff is worth seeking out too.

― Brian Turner (btwfmu), Saturday, 31 December 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

Schaumburg ! In case anyone searches for this thread..

― blunt (blunt), Saturday, 31 December 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

definitely go for the self-titled....i have a copy of their second lp LUPA, which is disappointing and a lot more jazzy and funky and less punk and the much higher production value of that lp makes them sounds a lot cheesier. split the difference and go for the first palais schaumburg lp as well as the die doraus und die marinas lp, which is totally awesome.

also awesome are DER PLAN's normalette surprise and SILVIA's s/t lp (originally on schallmauer) if you're interested in the minimal synth side of NDW...unfortunately, the cd reissue of the silvia album released on genetic music has just gone out of print.

― Dan Gu (uncannydan), Saturday, 31 December 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

haha i instantly ordered a cd off amazon by accidentally clicking on their 1-click order thing, thank god it was the s/t!

― the frantic cornucopia, Sunday, 1 January 2006 00:32 (twenty years ago)

You should absolutley get the mini LP Das Single Kabinett which collects the early Zickzack singles. By far Palais Schaumburg's best recordings, and features the massive NDW hits 'Telephon' and 'Kinder Der Tod'. Not reissued, but shouldn't be very hard to find.

― clicktalk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 10:55 (twenty years ago)

Were "massive NDW hits" actually played on the radio much in Germany? Like, on pop stations? I'm really curious. I lived there 1982-85, which is when I picked up the stuff I have out of curiosity (I stupidly got rid of Der Plan's *Normalette Surprise* sometime in the late '80s), but I never really noticed the stuff anywhere but in record stores. Was it all over by then? Or was it just never on the radio much in the first place? And if not, what made something a massive NDW hit -- Were there dance clubs that played the stuff, or what?

― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 13:34 (twenty years ago)

"Telephon" is on the "Verschwende Deine Jugend" compilation of NDW material.

I'm a huge fan of Holger Hiller's solo albums (apart from the rather dull 2000 Mute one), but have mixed feelings about Palais Schaumburg. The first album is a spiky listen, although I think the lyrics are great.

― Momus (Momus), Sunday, 1 January 2006 14:02 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha, I don't know why I wrote "massive NDW hits", I was just home from a New Years eve party. Of course 'Telephon' wasn't a bit hit in a commercial sense. However NDW got relatively much attention from mass media early on (which lead to 'mainstream-NDW' and NDW's decay just a few years later). I'd say NDW as a genre was over by 1982-83. But then I wasn't there, so I don't know. Telephon was as far as I know played quite a lot in clubs and on alternative radio, but I meant hit as in 'survived NDW-classic'.

― clicktalk (clicktalk), Sunday, 1 January 2006 14:40 (twenty years ago)

By the way, this thread inspired me to pull out *Deutschland Deutschland* for the first time in several thousand years yesterday, and I decided that the next time I DJ (if there is ever a next time) I am definitely going to spin "14 Tage" by Fehlfarben, and possibly "Wahre Arbeit! Wahrer Lohn" by Krupps as well (not to mention "Arabic Funk" on the possibly tangentially related 1985 Dites 33 Records compilation *It's Belgian,* which I was also inspired to play for the first time in many many moons yesterday, and which makes mid '80s Belgian dance-punk-pop sound like a missing link between NDW and Belgian nu-beat, though there's an extremely good chance said link exists only in my imagination.)

― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 14:51 (twenty years ago)

(Oops, guess I should say "Arabic Funk" is by a bass/synth/guitar/sax/drums quintet called The Reporters, whoever they are.)

― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 14:54 (twenty years ago)

http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2006/01/hamburg_helper.html

WITH VIDEO!

― jaxon (jaxon), Sunday, 8 January 2006 06:23 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

their self-titled lp is great. really herky jerky, bizarre teutonic punk/funk ... at times they sound like a german pere ubu, but with tighter rhythms

― jkxzclCJKXZL, Monday, 20 March 2006 02:25 (twenty years ago)

holy god that video is amazing!!

― hdzfjk, Monday, 20 March 2006 05:32 (twenty years ago)

I like the s/t album. I think the singles & eps before the s/t are even better, more concise -- but I also feel that things only get really interesting with Hiller's solo career

Holger Hiller : rfi/c/d/s/d/pox/excelsior

― milton parker (Jon L), Monday, 20 March 2006 06:50 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

Er, Hiller's not on Schaumburg's Lupa, tho!
And it's Lupa I got my'elf just the day before yesterday, Like the record lots, let it be "a lot more jazzy and funky and less punk" (as someone put it upthread) - exactly the things that make it weirdly wonderful to my ears.

― t**t, Monday, 23 July 2007 20:30 (eighteen years ago)

the one I want to hear is this, I hear it's mostly normal save for two very strange tracks:

http://e.discogs.com/release/57188

Released: 1984
Notes: Palais Schaumburg on this album is Ralf Hertwig, Moritz Von Oswald and Thomas Fehlmann.

― Milton Parker, Monday, 23 July 2007 20:58 (eighteen years ago)

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