Rolling World Music 2006 Thread

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1. Susheela Raman, Music for Crocodiles: Tamil British, but more moody, torchy, sexy; H in Addis (her buddy) disagrees with me but I think this is her best yet, it's really sultry, there are actual Indian musicians on this one for added depth, and her lyrics have really come along.

2. Cabruera, Proibido Cochilar: Northeastern Brazilian dudes rock out with trad tunes turned rock and d'n'b and funk, also cool originals (like turning Adorno's Dialectic on Enlightenment into a dance tune); great new instrument formed by leader Arthur Pessoa, who rubs a ballpoint pen on his guitar and makes it sound like an old-timey Brazilian rave fiddle.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 8 January 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't like that first one at all; seemed way too genteel and antiseptic to me, not very catchy or even all that pretty. Totally love that second one -- which is more in the Chico Science and Nacao Zumbi tradition than the Manu Chao tradition, I was pleased to learn (though there's some Manu Chao in there too, which is good.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 8 January 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

By the way, there are already TWO CDs in the general Manu Chao genre vicinity that I have liked so far in 2006, which is already more than 2005, I think, but I am blanking out on the name of the other one, which is at work. When I'm threre, I'll take note of its name.

I also like the *Congotronics 2* comp of suburban-Kinshasha Konono-style distortion drone music on Crammed Disc; best cuts, I think are by Kusai Allstars featuring Muambuyi, Kisanzi Congo, Basokin featuring Mi Amor, and, yep, Konono No. 1; actually, it seems they saved the two best for the end of the CD, which is a little annoying, but if there are great ones I've missed, somebody please let me know. Also, I haven't been able to get my copy of the DVD to work, for some reason. Bob Xgau, who knows a million times more about African music than I do, has told me that he thinks the Konono No. 1 album from last year was African music for people who don't like African music. I liked it okay (though not nearly enough to put it in my top ten - -actually, I liked both Konono CDs I heard okay), and admittedly, I'm not somebody who listens to African music much. I'd like to hear whether Konono fans and/or non-fans feel Bob's off base about that. For whatever it's worth, he's never been much of a Kraut-rock fan, and it''s probably not a stretch to say what's good about Konono might have more in common with what's good about Kraut-rock (when it's good) than what's more typically good about African music when ditto.

xhuxk, Sunday, 8 January 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure there must be a dozen copies of the Konono No. 1 CD kicking around my office, but I have yet to actually find one and listen to it. My favorite world music disc so far this year is Mariem Hassan's Deseos, which I described someplace else on ILM; basically, it's a blend of North African trance drum 'n' chant stuff with Junior Kimbrough-esque lead guitar lines, and vocals from this alternately exhilarating and terrifying woman. Great stuff, recommended to fans of Kimbrough, Diamanda Galas, Tinariwen, and everything/everybody in between. On Nubenegra Records.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 8 January 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

well, when crammed discs sells something like this:

"More heavily-distorted sounds, more DIY amplification... but also a whole array of different rhythms, buzzing drums, swirling guitars and hypnotic balafons."

it's easy to see why people who don't listen to a lot of african music might want to hear it. i mean, duh.

um, that was in response to chuck's xgau line about people who don't listen to african music. i still haven't heard this stuff yet. i'm sure i would love it.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 8 January 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

i still haven't heard that sublime frequencies guitar album that all the hipsters love. i still want to pick that one up.

scott seward (scott seward), Sunday, 8 January 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

he thinks the Konono No. 1 album from last year was African music for people who don't like African music

this might be true but only up to a certain point. as was pointed out on the konono thread, abd by scott above, the reason for this has to do w/ how it was marketed (i.e. it was sort of marketed as just that; african music for people who don't normally listen to it). still ... quite a few people on ilm who loved it also love african music in general, not to mention african music fans i know liked it. so there you go, the difference between how it was presented and reality.

yeah, the new congotronics 2 is pretty great though.

i still haven't picked up 'golden afrique' 2 - i think it was released elsewhere a few months ago but doesn't come out in the states until sometime this month. it looks just as good as the first.

TRG (TRG), Sunday, 8 January 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

Does anybody subscribe to the world music magazine Songlines? It seems pretty decent...I'm tempted. BTW, looking forward to this thread growing as the year rolls on.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Monday, 9 January 2006 00:33 (nineteen years ago)

Don't read Songlines. Read Global Rhythm. And I'm not just saying that because I'm the editor. Okay, yes I am.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 9 January 2006 01:00 (nineteen years ago)

is the definition of "global rhythm" gonna include Norwegian blast beats from now on?

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 9 January 2006 01:02 (nineteen years ago)

Global Rhythm is the absolute worst world music magazine I have found. Songlines is not bad. I wouldn't necessarily recommend subscribing to it though.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 9 January 2006 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

I felt like the comparisons between Krautrock and Konono #1 (I haven't heard the "Buzz 'n' Rumble" one yet) were a bit forced, myself. I too don't know nearly enough about African music, not a fraction as much as Christgau, but it seemed sorta like punk soukous to me. I'm probably way off base; it just didn't seem quite as crazy as I wanted it to be.

is there a new Tom Zé record called something like "Estudando o Pagoda"? new stuff, old stuff reissued? I sure love Zé.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 9 January 2006 01:58 (nineteen years ago)

i still haven't heard that sublime frequencies guitar album that all the hipsters love. i still want to pick that one up.

So, I'm now being mistaken for a hipster, am I? Anyhow, this is what I posted on the Pazz and double-p Jopp thread (album is called 1. Guitars of the Golden Triangle: Raw, Rare & Forgotten Archival Recordings from 1970's Shan State. Folk and Pop Music of Myanmar (Burma) Vol. 2

"I'm listening to this right now and it's achingly gorgeous and energetically ratty at the same time. If I'd been able to give it more than a cursory listen before the deadline it would have been a strong candidate. The title grabs your attention but is a bit misleading, since this is voice and song music at least as much as it's guitar music. The tracks were recorded in the '70s, but as far as the electric American influence, no one seems to have heard anything recorded later than 1967. No power chords and no sustain. A fellow named Saing Saing Maw, who's got a whole bunch of tracks, sings in a relaxed almost rockabilly style, somewhat reminiscent of Ricky Nelson, and like Nelson he has an intense band and a guitarist slinging ice pellets at us. He also - I'm serious - seems to have heard the Seeds' 'Pushin' Too Hard,' hence chords are played with a similar push. Other performers do tunes with an early '60s lilt. Not that my listing these influences gives much of an idea what the record sounds like. It's fundamentally Asian, with vocals that rise to a ringing high-pitch, and sad little descents. From a part of Myanmar [Burma] that's reputed to be lawless and to be inaccessible to outsiders."

So, "achingly gorgeous": I'm still in need of adjectival help, if Haikunym or someone else can give me any more suggestions.

(Guitars of the Golden Triangle would have made my P&J ballot for sure, were I voting today, and I did manage to sneak it onto my Nashville Scene Country Critics ballot as a reissue.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 9 January 2006 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

frank, you are so hip it aches gorgeously.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 9 January 2006 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

Another question for you who know more about world music than I do: Has Boney M had an enduring impact on the world? Are there current equivalents to Boney M? I started caring about Boney M in Christmas 1990, when Patty Stirling gave me a pirate Boney M best-of from Singapore that she'd picked up for a buck in San Francisco's Chinatown. She bought it because when she was in Harare her rasta friends were into Boney M. A few months later we were walking on upper Market and ran into Patty's friend Jennifer, a teenager of Indian heritage who'd grown up in West Africa. We started talking about Boney M, and Jennifer said, "My parents used to listen to Boney M all the time." Michael Freedberg once told me that mid '80s Boney M albums were pitched higher than the earlier ones in order to appeal to fans in Southeast Asian.

I think the point I'm trying to make is that Eurodisco and World music are tied at the hip.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 9 January 2006 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

weird, i heard about boney m through the HNAS guy i think, or another one of those cottage-drone dudes.
some variant of boney m played in greenpoint last year, so maybe he is also precursor of disco-polo.

Beta (abeta), Monday, 9 January 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

Countries in which Marion Raven's Here I Am was released last summer: Korea, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Taiwan, Thailand, the Philippines, Japan, Mexico, Norway, Sweden. Due out January 30 in Denmark. I'm still not making sense of the album's getting neither a U.S. nor a U.K. release. You'd think they'd at least take a chance on breaking "Break You," which is "Since U Been Gone" meets "You Oughta Know," and from the sound of it is one of the tracks Max Martin produced.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 9 January 2006 02:54 (nineteen years ago)

Andy, Boney M recorded in Germany, so it's not surprising that HNAS would be familiar with them. (I've never heard any HNAS that I know of, and I assume their sound was fairly rough, but if they had any interest in Kraftwerk or Moroder or ABBA, an interest in Boney M would go along with this.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 9 January 2006 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

xp:I don't know what HNAS or cottage-drone is (though if I thought about them more I might figure them out), but I'd say there almost definitely is a connection between Boney M (which is a they, not a he, Andy) and certain Polish disco stuff I've heard (not to mention Italian disco, German disco, Scandinavian disco, Mexican disco, South African disco, and Hong Kong or Thailand or whatever disco.) But most disco from those places I've heard is from the '80s or early '90s; I have no idea if there are still any Boney equivalents left now (and I have no idea who was in the version of Boney M that played last year in Greenpoint, and I'm sorry I missed them, especially since I probably could've walked since Greenpoint is right across the Newtown Creek bridge from my Queens neighborhood Sunnyside.)

I definitely hear more Kraut-rock (obsessive repetitive clatter unto noisy guitar buildup) than punk in Konono and the Congotronics 2 comp. I like them fine. But yeah, not nearly as great as so many people say (or as noisy, or as avant-garde as far as I can tell.) (And I'm not saying they were *influenced* by Kraut-rock, which they may never have heard. Though I'd be surprised if they haven't heard certain techno etc that Kraut-rock spawned.)

Rockist, what is it that *Songlines* does better or different than *Global Rhythm*? (Just curious; I've never seen or read either magazine myself, at least not knowingly.)

xhuxk, Monday, 9 January 2006 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

By similar to Boney M, I'm thinking not just in sound but in world impact, or, alternately, contemporary music from Asia and Africa that shows the Boney M influence.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 9 January 2006 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

that eurodisco sound is just...deathless. worldwide. forever.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 9 January 2006 03:19 (nineteen years ago)

not that boney m were JUST eurodisco or anything.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 9 January 2006 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

germany (and scandinavia) and italy changed the pop world forever in the 70's.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 9 January 2006 03:23 (nineteen years ago)

Incidentally, in my second book I mention a song (in the fucking sound effects chapter, thanks to duck quacks) *called* "Disco Pollo," by a group named La Neuva Fattoria. Is there a connection between that song and the Polish disco reportedly now known in Greenpoint as disco pollo? Was it the beginning of the genre? Or is it just a coincidence?

xhuxk, Monday, 9 January 2006 03:30 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know, but temporary chicken by telex, complete with chicken sound effects, is my second favorite single of all time according to my list of 66 all-time favorite singles.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 9 January 2006 03:34 (nineteen years ago)

And I think one could easily draw a line between Boney M and Telex (and Telex and Belgian new beat), so there. (But wow, you even like it more than "Moskow Diskow"? Scott that's crazee.) (Unless "Moskow Diskow" is your number one.)

xhuxk, Monday, 9 January 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

Incidentally, those interested in the closely-related-to-world-music subject world FOOD may feel free to peruse my longwinded post on this thread from the I Love Cooking board (which also documents my heretofore undocumented my new hobby):

So what have you cooked lately? (Year two.)

xhuxk, Monday, 9 January 2006 03:42 (nineteen years ago)

i just posted my old singles list here, chuck:

Your "Top 10 Albums of All Time" List


but it's really random. the numbers don't mean much. someday, i will do a real list.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 9 January 2006 03:53 (nineteen years ago)

is there a new Tom Zé record called something like "Estudando o Pagoda"? new stuff, old stuff reissued? I sure love Zé.

-- edd s hurt (eddshur...), January 8th, 2006. (later)

Yes, it came out in August 2005 on Trama, and I picked it up at Dusty Groove. It has gorgeous booklet, but unfortunately all the liner notes are in Portuguese. Where is my ex-Brazilian gf when I need her? The back of the CD makes a reference to his 1976 album, Estudando o Samba which means this might be some sort of sequel. From the lyrics, it seems to be laid out as a sort of three act opera.

Fastnbulbous (Fastnbulbous), Monday, 9 January 2006 05:11 (nineteen years ago)

Konono toured with the Ex and all the hype about them revolved around the noise emanating from the car part amps and megaphones on poles. This was most definately African music for rockers (although Banning Eyre at Afropop.org and other Afropop fans liked them as well)
see here:Konono No1 - "Tradi-Modern" - This shit is unreal

The Global Rhythm mag used to be, I haven't seen it in awhile, real fluffy in its stylistic approach to "world music." I prefer to just read The Beat magazine, which is unfortunately cutting back on the number of issues per year it puts out.

curmudgeon, Monday, 9 January 2006 05:59 (nineteen years ago)

>I haven't seen it in awhile

Well, I only arrived in November, so wait a couple of months and give it another shot. I'm busily beating my head against the wall trying to fix all the things I think need improvement. (Including the inclusion of Norwegian black metal and Japanese noise, but I have dim hopes at best.)

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 9 January 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

>there are already TWO CDs in the general Manu Chao genre vicinity... but I am blanking out on the name of the other one<

Gecko Turner, *Guapapasea!* on Quango (Spanish, apparently; "former frontman for Perroflauta and the Reverendoes," whoever they are or were. Includes Dylan and soul music references, and allegedly Monk and Marley ones as well).

xhuxk, Monday, 9 January 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

My first impression of the new Tom Ze was that it was great, but it's kind of all over the place. It's kind of odd listening to goat sounds and a woman reaching orgasm.

Patrick South (Patrick South), Monday, 9 January 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

think the new Ze is based on the '76 album, but i know nothing beyond the dusty groove homepage...
xhu xku, HNAS was dada-esque German tape noise stuff from early 80s, while cottage-drone more refers to the guys in UK and Germany that have been doing industrial noise stuff since the tape underground, meaning NWW, David Jackman, esoteric gusy like that that Brainwashed used to always go on about. i just thought i funny that Christoph Heemann tipped me off on Boney M as opposed to Frank's rasta connection. which is to say, the entire world (minus most of the States) loves Boney M.

Beta (abeta), Monday, 9 January 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

The Tom Ze disc is fantastic; the Gecko Turner thing sucks sucks sucks. The new disc from Los De Abajo is great, though; Mexican/L.A. ska/polka/funk stuff recommended to Fishbone fans.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 9 January 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

I really like how Gecko Turner's band stretches out those Jorge Ben-style percussion grooves in "Limon En La Cabeza" and "45,000$ (Guapa Pasea)" (which goes into a probably-Miles-inspired trumpet part) and the smoother Gilberto Gil-style groove in "Te Estas Equivocando"; I like the two soul tracks ("How Come You Do Me Like You Do Me", which reminds me of Richard Dimples Fields or somebody, better than the almost deep house "Dizzie" -- actually, "Sabes Quien Te Quiere" has a soul rhythm too, though his vocal in that one is more a beautiful samba.) A better soul LP than the new Anthony Hamilton for sure. And "Subterranean Homesick Blues" is good too; for most of it I have no idea what it has to do with Dylan, until Gecko's scat singing part turns into "look out kid you're gonna get hit" over and over. Anyway, no way does this suck suck suck. Way warmer and catchier than the previous Los De Abajo CD, too, though I've yet to hear their new one.

xhuxk, Monday, 9 January 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

I just found it really loungey and boring, but maybe I'll listen to it again.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 9 January 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Well, there definitely are smooth jazz moments (but so what? smooth jazz is underrated) now and then, and that deep-housey track might even be trip-hoppy to a certain extent. So yeah, some of it could probably be played in a lounge. But most of it is really energetic, and some it totally rocks in a Jorge Ben kind of way. (Also, strangely, after I mentioned Chico Science upthread, a Nacaco Zumbi CD just came in the mail today sans Chico, who of course died seven or so years ago. I had no idea they were even still together. Cool!)

xhuxk, Monday, 9 January 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

And the Nacao Zumbi sounds....good! Probably not as great as their two CDs with Chico Science (at least the two I heard - did they make more than that?), but still good. The new singer(s) has/have more a goth heaviness; the melodies are more ominious and less celebratory and guitars often more metal, so sometimes it feels more like a La Castaneda or Heroes Del Silencio album, but who cares, I like those bands too. Doesn't percuss as Afro-Caribbean as the Cabuerea (or even the Gecko Turner for that matter), but still has plenty of funk. And lots of other weirdness (like extended talk vocals over obsessive grooving) going on amid all the dense, sometimes psychedelic sound.

xhuxk, Monday, 9 January 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

Miguel Anga (bolded because that's the only part of his name they are listing) Diaz's Echu Mingua is now definitely slated to be released by Nonesuch in February of this year, so maybe it will get more attention in the U.S.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Gruajiro EP (Spanish language post-Rancid demi-metal -- apparently either from Mexico or the US, I'm not sure) seems to be trying, but is totally clunky and fairly tuneless. I'll pass on it. PR sticker on the cover calls them in the tradition of Descendents, NOFX, and Mano Negra, but I don't hear the latter at all.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

Rockist, what is it that *Songlines* does better or different than *Global Rhythm*? (Just curious; I've never seen or read either magazine myself, at least not knowingly.)

(Incidentally, just saw your question this morning.)

The difficulty here is that I've mostly just stopped bothering to look at Global Rhythm, so it's hard to make my complaints concrete at this point. Some of the reviews I've read in Global Rhythm didn't make any reference to what seemed like really stand-out features of the CD being reviewed. (For instance, the brief review of Marcel Khalife's Caress wasted time providing background on some past controversies, while not bothering to mention than unexpected instrumentation on the CD under review. I'm not sure it even mentioned the mixing of trad. Arabic with jazz elements.) I think the writing is generally bad. Not that many CDs are reviewed--the whole publication is pretty skimpy. Some of the editorials at the front of the magazine (written by a woman whose name I forgot) are really dopey. I don't have as strong an impression of the lengthier articles, except they haven't really left much impression.

Songlines is by no means flawless, but the reviewers generally seem pretty informed, and a lot of releases get covered. I don't necessarily read many of the articles. Recently, I liked the fact that they wrote up the Sense World label for Indian classical music (not that that's really my thing, but it's an interesting label).

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I only arrived in November, so wait a couple of months and give it another shot. I'm busily beating my head against the wall trying to fix all the things I think need improvement. (Including the inclusion of Norwegian black metal and Japanese noise, but I have dim hopes at best.)

Ah, I didn't think I'd noticed your name (not that I was looking that closely).

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Hello everyone! I need to find out about some terrific Angolan music. Anyone know anything about the country's music? Doesn't have to be current. Even better, does anyone have any, especially anyone on slsk for instance...

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

The Buda Musique comp from a few years ago that's fantastic: Angola 60's: 1956-1970. There are a few others in the series too but I haven't heard them.

TRG (TRG), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Oh - the Soul of Angola comp from Lusafrica is great too! The same label has released a handful of comps, but Soul of Angola is the only one I have. Here's a bit about it from the Afropop site:

http://www.afropop.org/explore/album_review/ID/1558/Soul%20of%20Angola

TRG (TRG), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

This Nacao Zumbi thing is really good. The guitar on the first track reminds me of the guitar sound on the first song from Mastodon's Leviathan, right at the beginning, before it gets all heavy and roaring.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone heard this Cheikh Lo Lamp Fall album? I like "Sante Yalla," partly because it reminds me of the Cheo Feliciano song "El Raton." The audio clips of the other songs sound good too. I liked his contribution to Red Hot + Riot, but I'm not sure I'd be into a whole album like this.

http://www.sternsmusic.com/disk_info.php?id=wcd073

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Monday, 23 January 2006 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

So has anybody mentioned that "Than Shin Ley Ye Khan" by Saing Saing Maw, the first and best track on *Guitars of the Golden Triangle: Folk and Pop Music of Mynanmar (Burma) Vol. 2* (filed amid my F CD compilations rather than my G ones since the subtitle rather than the title is on the CD spine) is basically, or even blatantly, a cover of "Lightning Bar Blues" by Hoyt Axton (also covered by Brownsville Station and lots of other people, including some hard rocking garage band last year whose name I forget)? I thought this was obvious the very first time I played the CD, but I never mentioned it, and can't remember anybody else mentioning it since either. Though maybe I missed it, or maybe they thought it was too obvious to point out, too.

xhuxk, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

*The Rough Guide to Bhangra Dance* is undoutedly one of the best albums of 2006 so far, for anybody keeping track of such things. So far my favorite cuts are the ones by Malkit Singh, Paisa, Mehndi/Madhorama Pencha, and Apna Sangeet, though that may well change.

xhuxk, Sunday, 29 January 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

> Have you never heard LTDN before, Phil?

Dude, my grandfather's Mexican. I've been listening to LTDN for years, off and on. I just happened to get this one from their publicist yesterday - they share a publicity firm with Calle 13, who I was interviewing - so I've been playing it and the office copy of 20 Corridos Inolvidables all day.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:33 (eighteen years ago)

okay then! yeah, Historias de Cantar is better than last year's Directo al Corazon for sure; "Ingratitude" is definitely the jammm, sounded great while I was driving in Topanga Canyon this summer. And yeah, La Banda de Carro Rojo is also really great.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago)

Anyone hear the brand new Eglantine Gouzy album Boamaster? It's kicking my ass in the same way the Cibelle album has been for months. I don't know if it's "world" music but it's from France.

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

And on a totally different tip: Bulawayo Jazz, Zimbabwe jazz from the early '50s - whoa. I love the Cold Storage Band. Fantastic comp. http://www.sternsmusic.com/disk_info.php?id=swp032

mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:12 (eighteen years ago)

*Maurice el Medioni Descarga Oriental (Algerian-Jewish pianist/singer gets together with smart-ass Cuban expatriate Roberto Rodriguez to do it up big, Cuban music used in a non-boring way + Arabic pop = funn)

This is great! I finally got a chance to really listen to it. It's got a great joyful anything-goes vibe to it.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:42 (eighteen years ago)

I know I should consolidate my posts, but...

Extra Golden - meeting of two members of the Kenyan band Orchestra Extra Solar Africa (awesome name, never heard of them, have you?) and two members of the Washington, DC band Golden. Reminds me of the Roswell Rudd/Toumani Diabate record from a few years back, where you see these collaborations and think it might be a rote overslick exercise in 'world beat' genre mashing, turns out to be a very sympathic and effusive meeting where the sum is greater than the parts.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:07 (eighteen years ago)

I wanna check out that Extra Golden cd. Even though that one main Kenyan participant died, a revamped version of the group performed at Iota, outside DC the other weekend. Alas, I missed it due to family obligations.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Sunday, 1 October 2006 02:14 (eighteen years ago)

'world music' biz news from the rock, paper, scissors publicist's dubmc blog/board thingee:

http://www.dubmc.com/dubmc/2006/09/palm_pictures_d.html

Palm Pictures Downsized with No New World Music Releases In Sight
Sources have reported to DubMC that Palm Pictures has let go of most of their remaining staff today with "only a few accountants still walking around the office" and a couple of marketing staff. Approximately fifty staff members have been let go in the past month or so. This is not a total surprise since Palm has not released much if any physical product in several months. This follows on the heels of Triloka Records getting absorbed by Artemis and Narada getting fully absorbed by its parent company Virgin/EMI, with neither label continuing to release product under their world music imprints, and neither of Triloka's and Narada's founders still with the companies.

September 29, 2006 at 03:27 PM in Music Biz | Permalink

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Sunday, 1 October 2006 02:21 (eighteen years ago)

Tower Records may have been bought by a liquidator, but they've only marked things down 10% right now. That Cheikh Lo cd is $18.99 list. Hopefully in a week or so they'll mark it down more. Bought Ethiopiques Vol. 3 at a pretty good price though.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 9 October 2006 00:33 (eighteen years ago)

Maria Bethania's balladry is getting lots of stereo play from me. Does Caetano Veloso have any other siblings who sing?

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 10:09 (eighteen years ago)

Songstress Juana Molina isn't quaking anymore

By Jessica Hopper
Special to the Tribune
Published October 10, 2006

excerpt---

"This fall, Molina will be one of a handful of independent South American artists touring America; Jose Gonzalez from Argentina, CSS, Tetine and Bondo De Role from Brazil have all made recent Chicago stops. Though some are ex-pats, South American artists are being embraced by the American underground. Amy Phillips, news editor at Pitchfork Media, says several things have helped open the door and generate interest.

"It's not just one factor -- these artists are filtering through in a context that indie rockers are comfortable with -- the right people and labels are saying it's cool," Phillips says. "Juana Molina is on Domino, CSS is on Sub Pop, Diplo is deejaying a lot of Brazilian music.

"Secondly, right now, a lot of hipster types are going down to Buenos Aires and spending a lot of time there, because it's inexpensive and has a lot going on -- it's like Prague was in the '90s. Also, indie rock always needs another culture to exoticize -- it's their turn."

The American underground's embrace of South America's latest crop of artists as good news for Molina, though she admits she's conflicted about it. "This is the good part of globalization; it works out for bands," she says. "But, I know, with globalization and the Internet, with people having access to all kinds of information -- I do not like the idea of every place being the same place. It can be interesting, cultures mixing, but people are losing distinct identity and place."

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 17:51 (eighteen years ago)

"Secondly, right now, a lot of hipster types are going down to Buenos Aires and spending a lot of time there, because it's inexpensive and has a lot going on -- it's like Prague was in the '90s. Also, indie rock always needs another culture to exoticize -- it's their turn."

That is funny. Thanks Amy.

I'm listening to Brazilian Chico Buarque right now. He's ok.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 04:36 (eighteen years ago)

Juana Molina is well worth seeing live. Like Imogen Heap, she's good at sampling herself as she plays/sings, and looping the samples straight back in accumulating layers. All of which is saved from tweeness by the subtly dissonant electronica which rumbles beneath...

Currently enjoying Golden Afrique 3: Disc 1 is South Africa, and Disc 2 is Zambia/Zimbabwe. However, the cumulative sweetness gets a bit cloying over the course of a full length disc, particularly with the samey chord progressions on the South African disc.

The new World Circuit compilation is a better bet: it's particularly good at emphasising the connections between West African and Cuban musics.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 09:43 (eighteen years ago)

1. Agreed on Juana Molina live. On CD, she has a tendency to sound breathy and twee, and her guitar is mixed fairly low. Live, she is not only great at building layers of loops and singing three-part harmony with herself, but she is a good, tough guitar player, and a surprisingly strong singer.

2. Molina's Son is my favorite record so far this year. The central track, "Mikael", is three minutes of stunning. The whole thing is more accessible and less wifty than Tres Cosas, her previous record, and a lot more confident and sophisticated than Segundo (which was pretty fine). She deserves the attention she's getting.

3. To change the topic, Nuevo Leon's ragacumbiamuffin anti-Kinky El Gran Silencio has a new record out, Communicaflow Underground. (Roughly three years after the missed release date for what was SUPPOSED to be their next record.) It's great! Somewhat more organic and less varied than previous EGS offerings, more hip-hoppy, but with live drums and acoustic guitar on almost every track (and still lots of accordion). Haikunym, where are you? (Things that suck about it: crappy booklet with no credits, no lyrics, and no good art.)

4. Also, apparently my very favorite artist Rachid Taha released a new record, Divan 2 (Divan was 10 years ago), in France and England last week. Canada next week, U.S. in three. Has anyone heard it?

5. What good does it do to register on these people's websites, and they don't even bother to send you an e-mail when they release an album that you are willing actually to buy without question?

Vornado (Vornado), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 21:05 (eighteen years ago)

When they are actually doing things, they're too busy to tell you about it. I've noticed a lot of artist web-sites are two or three years out of date, and I mean active artists who aren't just free improvisers living in some shack somewhere.

R_S (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 21:07 (eighteen years ago)

I think this will be good (on Tzadik) if it's new (and if it's a reissue, that's fine too--I want to pick up the original some time). I saw them perform at the 1987 New Music America Festival. I remember liking it, but that's about all I remember.

Henry Kaiser / Charles K. Noyes / Sang Won Park: Invite the Spirit 2006 [#7617]

One of the most evocative and successful meetings of East and West reunites to weave their magic spell via kayagum, electric guitar and percussion. Invite the Spirit was a sensation when it was first released in 1983 and now over twenty years later they are sounding better than ever. Joined by two scintillating Korean P’ansori vocalists on several tracks this is a whole new take on the Korean shamanistic tradition. Over seventy minutes of timeless, ecstatic, magical music unlike anything you’ve ever heard.

R_S (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 21:18 (eighteen years ago)

The new Rahim al Haj oud CD is out, on Smithsonian Folkways. I think this is one I will be buying soon. Yes, he studied with Munir Bachir, who I've never really liked much, but I think he has a warmer, more human sound than Munir Bachir's. To me, in oud improvisation, an enormous part of the emotional impact is carried by the specific timbre and tone of the oudist.

http://www.folkways.si.edu/search/AlbumDetails.aspx?ID=3127#

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 26 October 2006 00:35 (eighteen years ago)

I am really happy he is recording oud taksim in this case. I'd rather hear what he can do in a pure presentation of the various maqamt than in compositions for solo oud. It may sound odd, but I don't really care for solo oud playing where the oudist is playing a pulse or otherwise playing fairly regularly rhythmic figures. That can fine for accompaniment, but even then, if it's just oud and vocals, it can get tiring after a while. The live recording I have by Al Haj, Iraqi Music in a Time of War, is more like "dances played on the oud." It's one of the better examples of that type of thing that I've heard, but it's still not my favorite style of playing.

(For the anti-purists: I am such a purist about this because, at its best (which it rarely is), oud taksim hits me emotionally in a very particular way that I almost never get from other types of oud performances.)

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 26 October 2006 00:44 (eighteen years ago)

I know I like to get excited about things, like most of us here, but I really think this is going to be one of the best solo oud recordings in recent memory. "ONE OF THE BEST SOLO OUD RECORDINGS IN RECENT MEMORY. . ."

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 26 October 2006 00:46 (eighteen years ago)

There is lots of great stuff on this page!--

http://www.smithsonianglobalsound.org/sgs_live.aspx#Mideast

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 26 October 2006 01:00 (eighteen years ago)

Check out the Junkanoo Parade. It looks like a more African, vastly funkier, Mummers Parade.

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 26 October 2006 01:01 (eighteen years ago)

http://cover6.cduniverse.com/MuzeAudioArt/Large/92/947892.jpg

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 26 October 2006 01:10 (eighteen years ago)

It's time to world.

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 26 October 2006 01:10 (eighteen years ago)

Hi Vornado, I love the EGS record too...although I'm surprised at how reggaeton-centric most of the beats are. I am here but I have been too busy listening to: Los Enanitos Verdes, Julieta Venegas, Gustavo Cerati, the Roots of Rumba Rock disc (singles from the Congo in the 1950s OMG), a bunch of weirdo avant-jazz from Italy and Czech Republic, and some really great taoureg music and a lot of Indian soundtracks.

Well, that and Los Burbanks and Gomez and Itibirê Familia Orquetra and OOIOO and Tanya Stephens and um some other stuff.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 26 October 2006 01:39 (eighteen years ago)

There's going to be a Colombian equivalent of that Panama! 60s Funk Reggae Disco Afrobeat Khaleeji You Name It from the Isthmus mentioned up thread. That should be great. I still need to pick up the Panama one.

R_S (RSLaRue), Thursday, 26 October 2006 01:54 (eighteen years ago)

xpost: Agreed, Juana Molina's "Micael" is the standout track on Son for me as well. Domino in the US have it as a free download: http://www.dominorecordco.us/downloads/JM/JM_Mic.mp3

xpost2: My partner heard some of the new Rachid Taha on the radio, and said it was more rai and less rock... well, good.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 26 October 2006 08:48 (eighteen years ago)

a bunch of weirdo avant-jazz from Italy

N.A.D.M.A.?

I'm loving Paura.

mcd (mcd), Thursday, 26 October 2006 14:27 (eighteen years ago)

Way back in January I was loving the Nacao Zumbi album, and I still am; it might even make my Top 10 for the year (personal Top 10, I mean; it got an Honorable Mention in Global Rhythm's year-end roundup). And I just went trawling through the Brazilian section of the mag's CD library and turned up a copy of their self-titled 2004 album, so I'm gonna listen to that on the train ride home tonight.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Thursday, 26 October 2006 19:18 (eighteen years ago)

Africando
Ketukuba
CD (Sterns) 2006
Africando, the Afro-Salsa supergroup is back. Fourteen years after the historic first meeting of the best singers from Senegal and the best Latin musicians in New York, "Ketukuba" , their seventh album is ready. "Ketukuba" is a tribute to the late Gnonnas Pedro, Benin’s favourite son, who sang with Africando from 1996 until his death in 2004. The title song, was his last recording.
Medoune Diallo, who earned his reputation with Orchestre Baobab before casting his lot with the nascent Africando in 1992, sings a duet with his son, Lodia Mansour, a rising star in Senegal today.
This album also introduces two other young but already seasoned Senegalese singers to Africando’s worldwide fans: Pascal Dieng of Super Cayor and Basse Sarr of Orchestre Afro-Salsa de Dakar. Africando stalwarts Amadou Ballake and Sekouba Bambino are in top form. American salsero Joe King gives a rendition of “Nina Nina” that may well become the definitive version of the Fania All-Stars classic.
Congolese star Madilu System joins Africando for a sparkling Latinate version of “Mario,” the landmark hit he originally recorded with Franco’s T.P.O.K. Jazz in 1985. And he sings it even better now! Nelson Hernandez, who has worked with Kekele as well as with Celia Cruz, Oscar D’Leon and many other Latin stars, wrote arrangements that allow such top-tier musicians as pianist Junito Davila, trumpeter Gazo Jaime and percussionists Roberto and Luis Quintero to shine. As always, producer Ibrahima Sylla brings extraordinary talents together and elicits brilliant performances from them.

R_S (RSLaRue), Monday, 30 October 2006 16:12 (eighteen years ago)

Ibrahima Sylla has produced a number of nice releases.

In other news, It would have nice to have to the WOMEX festival/conference in Sevilla--

http://www.womex.com/realwomex/main.php?id_headings=28&id_realwomex=8&subheading=29

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 05:21 (eighteen years ago)

It would have Been nice to have GONE to the WOMEX festival/conference in Sevilla. Some of the performers:

Akli D. (Algeria / France)
Kabylian Berber singer´s avant-Afro/Algerian/Blues/world mix with Manu Chao producing his latest.

Eskorzo (Spain)
Una mezcla fantástica! From Adalusia to Bulgary, from Uruguayan ´Canbombe´to the funk of New Orleans, from reggae to rock and hip-hop comes this home grown, high energy group of musical revolutionaries from Granada.

Afel Bocoum & Alkibar (Mali)
Mali's messenger of desert blues tends musical and agricultural roots

El Tanbura (Egypt)
Egyptian collective wants to invite you to a party


curmudgeon (DC Steve), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 05:32 (eighteen years ago)

I love womex tho i've sadly missed the last two, always one of the most exhilarating and exhausting weekends

you can see some of the performances here http://www.mondomix.com/event/womex2006/

H (Heruy), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

Just picked up the Juana Molina cd for 30% off at Tower...

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:12 (eighteen years ago)

had e-mailed this to some London ilxors last week, but for anyone else in London who might be interested, Cibelle is playing a show on the 28th at Momo's, info below

Momo's actually has a free world music show every Tuesday so folx hld check whats coming up

The Kemia Bar at Momo presents BRASIL DO FUTURO Party - featuring Cibelle (LIVE) + SPECIAL GUEST DJ : RKK from Radio Nova (Paris) on TUESDAY 28th NOVEMBER – 8pm – Free admission !!! 25 Heddon street, London W1

Click on http://ecard.atnetplanet.com/rkk/en/ to launch the ecard

H (Heruy), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 07:09 (eighteen years ago)

The Putumayo African music tour show with Ivory Coast's Dobet Gnahore, Mali's Habib Koité, and South Africa's Vusi Mahlasela in DC was much better than I expected. Rather than just having all 3 acts do their own sets--they alternated for awhile song after song, and also performed together. Youngster Dobet Gnahore was the only female on the bill and her voice reminded me of some of Mali's fine singers. She also danced well. Habib Koité was impressive on various acoustic instruments, and Vusi Mahlasela, whom I had previously found kind of bland, actually had a pretty striking voice. Vusi did a nice take on the South African classic "Pata Pata."

Despite it being a Putamayo acoustic event marketed mostly to American-born NPR listeners, a number of DC based folks from various African countries plus locals got onstage and danced and showered performers with dollars African-style.

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Saturday, 18 November 2006 20:14 (eighteen years ago)

So I've been liking What's Happening In Pernambuca: New Brazilian Sounds of the Brazilian Northseas Chico Science/Cabruera associated stuff that comes out on Luaka Bop early next year, much of it beautifully sambafied, and much of it with lots of cool wacky noises within its funk, and some of it off-key, my wife says, though I didn't notice that on my own, and it doesn't really bother me.

Also, from the rolling country thread (interesting that this has inspired no talk here, being from the #1 movie in the U.S. and A.):

the Borat, which I think is actually very good (being quasi-Asian it has twice the twang of new country);
-- Frank Kogan (edcasua...), October 31st, 2006.


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That's a good band on Stereophonic Musical Listenings That Have Been Origin In Moving Film Borat; not clear to me how literal their ripoff/appropriations of Middle Eastern European (or whatever) pop are (for all I know it could just secretly be like one of those Sublime Frequencies albums where the music is all stolen from found cassette tapes) (the "credits" on the CD cover are in real or fake Kazakh, ha ha), but the actual music balances out "In My Country There Is a Problem (Throw The Jew Down The Well)" and "You Be My Wife" (rhymes with "we'll make love whenever I like") appropriately.

"O Kazakhastan" on Borat's album is on now. It'd fit right in on the new Laibach album Volk, which is their renditions of national anthems from the world over. Maybe they read what Frank wrote about Rammstein making a folk move upthread, and decided to one-up them?

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), November 4th, 2006.


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Borat (just saw the movie, which was slightly disappointing though still frequently hilarious but maybe the disappointment was just that it had been built up so much by so many people, but at any rate i also just realized today that the soundtrack is a compilation, and track #7 is beautiful, and i think it's by o.m.f.o. but it's hard to tell because there are not the same number of titles on the cover as tracks on the cd, since some of the tracks are just snippets of dialouge and stuff, so you can't just count down to the seventh title, which is "grooming pubis", and also "o kazakhastan" which ends the movie sounds more like laibach than most of the national anthems on laibach's own new album) -- xhuxk (fakemai...), November 19th, 2006.

So I figured out with 95 percent certainty the track #7, my favorite (and probably the most pop, thanks to the sweet-voiced lady singer) track on the Borat soundtrack, is "Eu Vin Acasa Cu Drag" by Stefan De La Barbuletsi, which originally supposedly appeared on AMMRA Records S.R.I. The other legit/non-Borat-sung tracks (apparently middle eastern and or eastern European, though maybe or I assume not usually Kazakh per se) are consistently really good, too, and first came out on labels like Piranha, Essay, Crammed Discs, World Connection, etc. O.M.F.O., who made an album I liked a couple years ago, have two tracks, which I'm pretty sure are tracks # 10 and 12. The only really confusing thing if you sit down with a pen and paper is that there seem to be three "real songs" between Borat's "You Be My Life" at # 13 and his "O Kazazhstan" at # 18, but only two titles between them. Which makes tracks #14 throuh #16 somewhat mysterious (since #17 is Borat high-fiving a gay-bashing redneck of some sort).
(Hey Frank brought the album up! I guess I should put all this on the world music thread too. I'm not sure what it has to do with country, though yeah, there's a twang in the music now and then, and didn't one of you guys vote for Gogol Bordello in a Nashville Scene poll once? This CD belongs on a shelf near them, Kultur Shock, Balkan Beatbox, etc, unless like me you file in alphabetical order.)

-- xhuxk (fakemai...), November 19th, 2006.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcI_cC1uEUE

R_S (RSLaRue), Sunday, 19 November 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

yeah i'm reviewing the luaka bop comp for a magazine, it's good, esp. the cabruera track. is good.

it's interesting to compare pitbull's el mariel with tego calderon's el subestimado as world music albums as opposed to hip-hop or reggaeton (esp because pitbull has NO reggaeton to it). both are great, love them very much.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 18:35 (eighteen years ago)

also going here because it won't fit anywhere else: the new paulina rubio, ananda, is the least poppy thing she's ever done; it's a lot more introspective and pretty. still brings the hooky video goodness though with "ayúdame" and "ni una sola palabra". i love her so much, even when she does BIG CRED MOVE

Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 18:37 (eighteen years ago)

Who is she trying to reach with a "big cred move" ? Anglo critics? Older middle class Hispanics? Just curious what you mean and if you think it will work...

curmudgeon (DC Steve), Monday, 20 November 2006 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

okay that was a misnomer (miss nomar = mia hamm); i think she is just at a very calm meditative place in her life and decided to do a softer and more contemplative album, as opposed to previous attention-seeking HUGE BLAZOW NOIZY SPLASH records. she probably doesn't give a damn what critics think anymore.

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 20 November 2006 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

The most recent single/video (where she's a superhero) is pretty awful, though the video gets points for truly astonishing amounts of cameltoe.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 20 November 2006 15:33 (eighteen years ago)

i havent seen any new videos but i love 'ayudame' so we are probably on different wavelengths in re p.blonde

Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 20 November 2006 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

La Onda Tropical has some interesting new stuff up, including some leaked Calle 13 and a track from an old school reggaeton act making a come-back (pretty good, very merengue-ish in the beginning), or something like that:

http://laondatropical.blogspot.com/

R_S (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 03:07 (eighteen years ago)

(miss nomar = mia hamm)

!

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 13:59 (eighteen years ago)

yeah sorry about that scott

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 16:01 (eighteen years ago)

I couldn't let that one just pass by.

Anyhow, I know I mentioned this elsewhere but there's a reissue of a record by Marconi Notaro from the early '70s (Brazilian psych tropicalia thing) that I just love. It's sort of what I expected Os Mutantes to sound like before I ever heard them.

mcd (mcd), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 16:25 (eighteen years ago)

Is new tom ze record, "danc-eh-sa". Dusty Groove claims:
Purportedly, the work is Ze's answer to an MTV marketing report that discovered a new trend for "hedonism, consumerism and social irresponsibility in youth"

Just got it from dustygroove. It is amazing; by far my favorite Ze since Fabrication Defect. Definitely more over-the-top experimental/hi-energy than his past few. As usual, there is a clear overarching conceptual hook that I am once again way not fluent enough in portuguese to get.

bangelo (bangelo), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 04:44 (eighteen years ago)

seventeen years pass...

Listening to Toumani Diabete - Boulevard de l'Independance, after hearing about it on a podcast (Tape Op does one where engineers & musicians talk about a favorite record).

It's a great record, sort of a pan-African fusion concept with Senegalese drummers, horns arranged by Pee Wee Ellis, a salsa track, etc. The sabar drums sound amazing, even if they're kept pretty reined in rhythmically.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Monday, 25 March 2024 16:12 (one year ago)

Oh I had forgotten about that album and just listened to it again. I like the way the softer sounds of Toumani Diabete's harp-like kora and the yearning vocals of Kasse Mady Diabate interact with the punchier sabar drums.

curmudgeon, Monday, 25 March 2024 21:35 (one year ago)


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