Dresden Dolls - Yes, Virginia

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The Dresden Dolls sound much tighter and focused on their new record. They've also produced the best rock song of the year so far, with only their requisite piano and drums: "Modern Moonlight":

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1UMCNVCIQW53U0RA1R7KADFHYL

Thoughta on the record, and the 'Dolls in general? So far it's one of the better records I've heard.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Saturday, 4 February 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

Cool. Sounds like the sped-up drums. I think my girlfriend will like this.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 4 February 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

I'll reserve judgement until I hear the full length but I don't like that song much, and I was really looking forward to this.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 4 February 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like it either, and was also looking forward to the record..! how disappointing. uh, sounds like two songs that don't have much to them and don't fit together well.

dar1a g (daria g), Saturday, 4 February 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

I've listened to this album 3434234 times.

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 18 February 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
Well then!

I wish it had as much of the fuck-you gusto as the first record, and also took some great leaps forward sonically...

But it easily consolidates the achievements from that first slighty scrappy in places s/t (though the opening track is a total retread and it could lose a track or two in the running length). It's probably better totalled up, but it'll need more listens yet.

God damn if this band don't really make me believe in them somehow! SO many rock bands seem to expect me to give a shit, because well, that's how rock works or something...

God, Amanda's such a GREAT lyricist. Intelligent, confrontational, pithy & pointed, inward -and- outward looking, but also just very fucking funny. Her singing's come on in leaps & bounds range-wise too.

The closing track is a real surprise. Their most nakedly emotional, anthemic, accessible and genuinely touching song ever. It's ... their "Everybody Hurts" :-O (ILM you can puke now)

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 11 March 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Still listening... Yeah, this is definitely better, it's just (not surprisingly really, they're clearly aiming BIG) far more of a straight-ish rock/pop record compared to the previous one's unpredictable instability.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 11 March 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
I've cooled on this considerably :(

file under cozy techno (fandango), Sunday, 26 March 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

Or... maybe I'm asking too much of them to be advancing commercially and w/r/t being musically interesting at the same time, but this definitely feels like it's only interested in the former right now and it kind of underwhelms me that they're not already capable of both.

file under cozy techno (fandango), Sunday, 26 March 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pretty sure I like it, but the highs don't seem as high as the last album? I agree they could have chopped a couple songs and dropping the "punk cabaret" schtick that made them interesting in the first place might not have the best move.

Still, good songs and lyrics, although Amanda still sounds a bit uncomfortable doing the chirpier pop stuff.

I like the promo cover better:

http://www.thephoenix.com/OnTheDownload/content/binary/DresdenDolls400.jpg

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 26 March 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

I "like" it too. I just had expectations :/

It's not at all terrible, it's very decent. But I may have been hoping for something like the collosal brick to the face of the second PJ Harvey record? Not something that's just a smoother version of the debut.

I like the promo cover better too. I would have bought that last week when I saw it if it hadn't been double the price!

file under cozy techno (fandango), Sunday, 26 March 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

I still think "Sing" is pretty world class as a pop/rock song. Surely that will be a single?? I don't care how lighters-in-the-air it is, it totally gets to me that one.

file under cozy techno (fandango), Sunday, 26 March 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

i think they're fantastic. i've known them for seven years probably--they used to throw amazing house parties when i lived in boston.

geeta (geeta), Sunday, 26 March 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

Geeta, maybe you vouch for me - do you remember when Amanda was the 8-foot bride in Harvard Square? No one seems to remember around here! Best rubbernecking ever.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

yes, of course i remember! one of my best friends from boston was so inspired by her bride project that he worked harvard square for years as 'the angel'!

geeta (geeta), Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

Still my favorite album of 2006.

Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

the california track is great -- when i saw them live they called it something like the "susan sontag song" or, erm, something like that.

it's weird b/c so much of the stuff was on their live album or i've already heard -- this album makes me really nostalgic in a way for what wasn't a particularly great time in my life, but where i did listen to and enjoy the dolls quite a bit. it's like happy songs can stay with you forever, but melancholy music needs to constantly be renewed.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 27 March 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

the dolls were going to come play in my town on march 3. the college radio station i've had a show with for six years and was MD for for three was sponsoring it. they got sick and cancelled, and after promising a rescheduled date their management type people said they would not be rescheduling after all. so, i'm torn between absolutely adoring almost everything about them and feeling like they are asshole rock stars now who blew us off. i understand that getting sick was not their fault, and they're busy, but jeez. it's just one date, five hours north of their hometown. blar.

but yeah. "yes, virginia" is incredibly solid both in songwriting and production, and being that it's their grasp at rock stardom it's suitably accessible, though i think "modern moonlight" and "sex changes" and "dirty business" and many others have as much punky venom as anything on the debut or the early bootlegs/self released live discs. it's my favorite album of 2006, though TVOTR is running a close second/tied for first place.

Emily B (Emily B), Monday, 27 March 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

five hours north of their hometown
Not an insignificant distance.

Washable School Paste (sexyDancer), Monday, 27 March 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

five hours north of their hometown
Not an insignificant distance.
-- Washable School Paste (evi...), March 27th, 2006.

true, but it's not like it would require them to fly. ah well, i'm just majorly disappointed, that's all.

Emily B (Emily B), Monday, 27 March 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

weird,i haven't even heard all of this yet. and i was a fan back when they were playing the lizard lounge to eight people. sort of afraid it might suck as i've heard 'they lost the punk cabret thing (whats left?). the first single is 'sing' and from what i hear the video will be a series of living pictures based on paintings, including manets 'the picnic'

kephm (kephm), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

You know what's great? TRIPLE J TELLING ME EVERY FIVE SECONDS THAT THERE WAS A LETTER IN THE NEW YORK TIMES ASKING IF SANTA CLAUS EXISTED BECAUSE AS A COMPLETE DROOLING IDIOT I DID NOT KNOW THAT!!!!

Esteban Buttez Goes To College, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

they do this great live cover of "war pigs" on occasion.

mp3 here:
http://download.yousendit.com/7F5A3F7B6A7A2DA4

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 1 April 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

This is a pretty good album. Not everything clicks with me, but I quite enjoy at least eight of the songs. I can understand why they went with "Sing" as the lead single, but I think they should've saved that for the second or third and went with one of the more rocking numbers.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Saturday, 1 April 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

i literally CANNOT wait for this...

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Saturday, 1 April 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - "Sing" seems a bit hasty for the first single to me too :\

Delivering over 43,973,865,717,760 bytes per day | What are you sending? (fandan, Saturday, 1 April 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Finally got this - had been putting it off due to lukewarm advance reports (see above). Reading Amanda angsting in her site diary about not having written a song she was really proud of for two years didn't help either.

Sounds great to me after a couple of listens. Lots of spite and spikiness. There's evidence of a bigger budget, the keyboards sound is fuller, but it's definitely the same band. The feel of the songs is mid-way between the first album and the ballads on the 'A is for Accident' live disc, which reflects the range of their set.

Hasn't been a band emerge over the last few years I've liked half as much. Looking forward to seeing them perform it live in May.

Soukesian, Saturday, 15 April 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Reading Amanda angsting in her site diary about not having written a song she was really proud of for two years didn't help either.

Anecdotal evidence suggested that she went through a pretty nasty case of writers' block for a long time, to the extent that I was worried about her even getting it together enough to write a second DD album. As a result, I reserve judgement about them as long-term "career" artists (not to mention signing to the band-killing Roadrunner Records - Sheila Divine, anyone?), but I hope for the best.

Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Saturday, 15 April 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

My Life With The Dresden Dolls

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 15 April 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

xpost:

Yeah, I had picked up the writer's block thing, and it was a concern that half the titles on the new album had been around for quite a while. The new stuff on the record seems quite as good as anything she's ever written, so hopefully it was just angst and she's over it.

Soukesian, Saturday, 15 April 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Full album stream

go nuts

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 15 April 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, it's the goth Ben Folds Five.

M. Biondi (M. Biondi), Saturday, 15 April 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

God, Amanda's such a GREAT lyricist. Intelligent, confrontational, pithy & pointed, inward -and- outward looking, but also just very fucking funny. Her singing's come on in leaps & bounds range-wise too

Amanda's lyrics are good enough to put on an Otto's Daughter album.

Not Even Worse, Sunday, 16 April 2006 07:15 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, it's the goth Ben Folds Five.

Okay, sign me up.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 16 April 2006 07:41 (nineteen years ago)

Listening to it for the first time now. My art teacher extolled it, and I want to suck up, so I'll give it a try even though I remember hearing the punk caberet stuff and feeling that they were just trying way too hard.

js (honestengine), Sunday, 16 April 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

"My art teacher extolled it"

Hah! They certainly have their demographic sewn up.

Soukesian, Sunday, 16 April 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)


They sound like blackgirls, remember them? I don't get the 'goth' thing, but some people think anyone with black hair is 'goth'. Once had a musician friend who 'informed' me of this. I guess some people don't remember cabaret.

yarn, Sunday, 16 April 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.universalbuzz.com/SpotlightArtistPics/DresdenDolls.jpg
ihttp://wendylynchphotography.com/DresdenDolls_1.jpg
ihttp://www.asc.upenn.edu/usr/cassidy/pix/portfolio/bands/dresden-dolls/1/11.jpg

Erm. Looks pretty goth to me. Everyone I know who pimps their records is goth, semi-goth, or goth (ret.). They're called the Dresden Dolls (that's circumstantial, I know, but given all of the other evidence).

Also: is it time for TS: Dresden Dolls vs. Cabaret Voltaire?

M. Biondi (M. Biondi), Sunday, 16 April 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

they're not goth, they're mimes!

also,
Dresden dolls are back in style
With a clockwork walk and a backward smile
Dresden dolls dont hear a sound
Theyre programmed to jump up and down

Up and down
Round and round
Tapping feet to formless sound

Dresden dolls and nazi boys
Dance arm in arm to formless noise
Up and down
Round and round
Tapping feet to formless sound

On plastic bars they sit and pose
Count their fingers with their toes
They sit and smile and drink and grin
Then they all get up again

Up and down
Round round
Tapping feet to noiseless sound

Dresden dolls are back in style
With a clockwork walk and a backward smile
Up and down
Pound and round
Tapping feet to formless sound

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 16 April 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

I am neither goth, or a pimp.

fandango (fandango), Sunday, 16 April 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

historical moment: both ile and ilx has dresden dolls at the top of their boards.

coopid, Sunday, 16 April 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)


This is what I love about this band : they obv. have a background in theater. Was David Bowie goth? Bowie studied mime. Mime isn't goth. Neither is commedia dell'arte or circus style. Question: do these guys have a performance art background? I haven't read up on them much.

yarn, Sunday, 16 April 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

Interesting. That's exactly what I hate about this band.

Sean Braudis (Sean Braudis), Sunday, 16 April 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

I am neither goth, or a pimp.

A gimp!

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Sunday, 16 April 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

haha! score :D

fandango (fandango), Sunday, 16 April 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

I like the aforementioned blackgirls a lot, so that intrigues me enough to go back to this again. I have only heard this new album once (and have heard no earlier ones) but will probably be playing stuff on the radio over the next couple of months. On first listen it reminded me of the Fiery Furnaces, fwiw.

sleeve (sleeve), Sunday, 16 April 2006 21:53 (nineteen years ago)


They sure get a lot of attention for a little band. I didn't think that little unsung, unhyped bands attracted people's wrath, but whatever. And yeah, I listened to them again and they DO remind me of blackgirls - didn't think anyone remembered them. Couldn't find any blackgirls on CD.

yarn, Sunday, 16 April 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

Punk cabaret:

http://www.minga.de/archives/rockyhps.jpg

M. Biondi (M. Biondi), Sunday, 16 April 2006 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

And now, ladies and gentlemen, it's time for....

ARE THEY GOTHS OR ARE THEY MIMES?

http://www.trashcity.org/BLITZ/BLIT0340.JPG

http://2004.sxsw.com/music/showcases/pages/photos/dresden_dolls.jpg

http://www.jacneed.com/PhotoFile/Marcel_Marceau.jpg

http://www.addict3d.org/img/a292f305f8951ece.jpg

M. Biondi (M. Biondi), Sunday, 16 April 2006 23:27 (nineteen years ago)

Question: do these guys have a performance art background? I haven't read up on them much.

Amanda does. As mentioned upthread, prior to Dresden, she was most well-known in Boston/Cambridge as a "live statue" artist - dressing up in EXTREMELY stylized pantomime bridal getup, making extremely minimal movements from atop a pedestal, and handing out flowers/petals to passers-by in Harvard Square for hours on end. She has many other art/performance connections, but this is her most (in)famous.

Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Monday, 17 April 2006 01:07 (nineteen years ago)

perri the hobo r.i.p.

kephm (kephm), Monday, 17 April 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

so does this sound like panic at the disco or something

nervous (cochere), Monday, 17 April 2006 02:16 (nineteen years ago)

no.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Monday, 17 April 2006 02:17 (nineteen years ago)

pity

nervous (cochere), Monday, 17 April 2006 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

i like 'shores of california' and 'necessary evil'.

jermaine (jnoble), Monday, 17 April 2006 09:34 (nineteen years ago)

They sound like blackgirls, remember them?

yeah! I have a cd of 'happy' around here & used to have their other record on tape but not anymore. they were good - well, the one girl's songs were good, dana kletter. she also sang backup on hole's 'live through this' if I'm not mistaken.

dresden dolls are theater goths, sure, but it seems to me this kind of music is precisely what theater goths ought to do - self-aware and funny.

dar1a g (daria g), Monday, 17 April 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

Listened to it and ... eh. Just not my bag, I guess.

js (honestengine), Monday, 17 April 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)


That's a great pic of Jacko. He actually displays some style, for a perv.

I mean, goth to me is, like, heavy and British and an eighties thing. I hear pianos I don't think 'goth', I think 'band geek'.

yarn, Monday, 17 April 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

True - that's actually a decent shirt and a good tie.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Monday, 17 April 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

So the first time I listened to this I came across a part of "Backstabber" where it sounded like she sang "show us what you're good for / post it to the noise board" and I was all like haha, noise board, and then it took me a second to realize there was anything strange about that.

Then I figured she said something else and I just misheard, but all internet lyric transcriptions seem to think that it's "post it to the noise board."

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe she's crypto-ILX.

js (honestengine), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

if she's really saying that, my guess is that it isn't the noise board on ILM, but "the noise", the boston rock magazine. i seem to recall them posting some really vicious things about her on their message boards ("the noise board") a while back.

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe Jon banned her.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

I was indeed going out on a limb and assuming that it wasn't referring to ILM's noise board, as she is very proper and would obviously have sang "show us what you're good for / post it to the All Noise Dude Summertime Fun Board and Pickle Bar."

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

The Noise (boston thing) is really pretty terrible.

JW (ex machina), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

ahaha... yeah I picked up on that, forgot to mention. I just assumed there are other noise boards! Amanda's kind of all-over the web it seems, if she was attached to ILX I suspect she'd be quite a vocal prescence here already.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

FORCEFIELD
Load Records
Roggaboggas
17 "songs"

"Load" records, indeed. This is some haw-haw collective of performance-art types, wearing throw rugs and mop-wigs on the cover, playing oscillators, loops and video game sound effects, and it sucks harder than a two-dollar crack whore. The first "number" is a one-note synth fart, held for a solid minute. And it's the best thing on here. There are long stretches that sound like leaky faucets, tests of the Emergency Broadcast System, and elderly people coughing up hairballs. Six tracks and twenty minutes in, you finally hear a beat, not that a beat could redeem this catastrophe. Almost looks like they're selling it as a sci-fi concept album, but there are no vocals or liner notes, and even the press sheet is one big, pointless Fuck-You to the general public. They list fake names (smart move), and thank a buncha people with fake names too. These guys should learn that the bigger the in-joke, the less funny it is. To think that they actually sat around attaching song titles to this puddle of misery is mind-blowing. Someone sank big money into the thing, but there's no way that even the band members listen to it. Helen Keller could make a better record in her sleep, and she's dead. Honestly, these people should be ashamed. (Joe Coughlin)

JW (ex machina), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus, is "sucks like a two-dollar crack whore" seriously going to have to go into the "use other words please" pile? When people type this, do they honest still think it's a clever, fresh, witty simile?

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

From: Jesus (jesus@trinitylink.com)
To: Nabisco (---@notmail.com)
Subject: two-dollar crack whores

(a) yes
(b) sometimes

open your heart unto me,
j.o.n.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

, but all internet lyric transcriptions seem to think that it's "post it to the noise board."

No, that is correct, I have the official cd with the liner notes.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

The Noise Board

Snarky Boston scenester hangout. Hate it.

Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

O RLY?

http://www.thenoiseboard.com/index.php?showtopic=24684

kephm (kephm), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
so does this sound like panic at the disco or something

-- nervous (forests.forest...), April 16th, 2006 11:16 PM.

I WIN:
http://www.fueledbyramen.com/panic/tour/top.gif

nervous (cochere), Monday, 29 May 2006 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

they still don't

chrisco (chrisco), Monday, 29 May 2006 02:28 (nineteen years ago)

It turns out my cousin in Berlin did a poster for these guys and I had no idea. Weirdness.

Telephonething (Telephonething), Monday, 29 May 2006 02:38 (nineteen years ago)

they still don't

post it to the noise board

nervous (cochere), Monday, 29 May 2006 03:44 (nineteen years ago)

Panic! At The f***ing Disco?? Where's that "worst band you've recently been exposed to" thread... They stink.

Now, I forgot Yes, Virginia even exists really but that's an insulting support slot. I hope Dresden Dolls embarrass them every damn night of the tour.

fandango (fandango), Monday, 29 May 2006 07:03 (nineteen years ago)

Shades of Flaming Lips opening for Candlebox...

Marmotdeth (marmotwolof), Monday, 29 May 2006 07:06 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
Sounding pretty damn good on first listen...count me in as another who hated the "Sing" video but gave the album a chance on the strength of the first two CDs.

Marmot 4-Tay (marmotwolof), Sunday, 18 June 2006 07:42 (nineteen years ago)

Upon further listening and it hasn't held up 100% but the first half is solid and there are some decent tracks scattered about afterward. "Modern Moonlight" still rocks though.

Simon H. (Simon H.), Sunday, 18 June 2006 10:45 (nineteen years ago)

Still hasn't strayed far from my player. Seeing them again at the Edinburgh Festival, in the Spiegeltent, which should be the perfect setting.

Soukesian (Soukesian), Sunday, 18 June 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

Is there any way that MJ picture can be struck from this thread? Man, that guy is creepy looking. I'd rather stare at those "autopsy in progress" shots on CSI that have his face randomly pop up on my screen.

pleased to mitya (mitya), Sunday, 18 June 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

Panic! At The f***ing Disco?? Where's that "worst band you've recently been exposed to" thread... They stink.
-- fandango (...), May 29th, 2006.

whaaaaaa!? no wai

nervous (cochere), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
The Dolls were fucking astonishing at the Spiegeltent in Edinburgh on the 23rd. Really about as good as it gets. None too shoddy either - and very much in their element - in their second set of the night at the 'Future Cinema' multimedia happening at Club Ego later on.

I love the Fringe far too much to be allowed to live here.

Soukesian (Soukesian), Friday, 25 August 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

maybe they should do a live album next :p

bad hair day house (fandango), Friday, 25 August 2006 22:48 (nineteen years ago)


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