Beirut? Is it all Pitchfork hype or is it actually good?

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I just got the Beirut album that has been hyped so much on Pitchfork and other places. I really like it a lot, I just hope the media (of which I am a part of for better or worse) don't destroy it. The band is already being compaired to Neutral Milk Hotel, and while there is obvious influence, it is not the same. Plus this is the first album from a 19 year old kid. I hope they give him time to progress before he hits the pedistal. Any thoughts?

Ryan McDermott (Rebelwordsmith), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

beirut ; gulag orkestar

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

Can't judge it until it's been occupied by Matisyahu for a month.

Goo-night, Swede Hurt (noodle vague), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

thanks for the link j blount. much appreciated.

Ryan McDermott (Rebelwordsmith), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

If the media can "destroy it" so easily, maybe he has hit his pedistal.

I don't blame the media for an artist that falls off. I may be naive.

silence dogood (catcher), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

That other thread pretty much gets all the bulletpoints right: nice, pleasant, a bit samey, slightly indie-bland. All the same, a better accomplishment than just about anyone on this board had achieved by 19. I enjoy his Eastern-European instrumentation with all of the Western European song titles, like it's all the same. And Ryan doesn't care for Beirut that much, even as his website references the name alot these days. Business as usual here.

cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

It's Ryan McDermott here, I changed my handle. Thanks Comso. Yeah I guess I shouldn't always attribute things to Pitchfork as a whole since their writers do have minds of their own. I do like the record though. But it is not as revolutionary as NMH, which he is being compared to.

Pop Ryan (Rebelwordsmith), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

i like him. i think he's got more in him. and yeah a lot of the songs get a bit samey and moaning but it's pretty good. Finally after months of crap bands (CYHSY, tapesnfarts, forward russia, cold war kids) getting hyped, I'm happy to see something like this get the coveted "blog buzz" label.

wonder if it'll really lead to anything

curious to see him live, hear very m ixed things

kevin barking (arghargh), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

"revolutionary"

Goo-night, Swede Hurt (noodle vague), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

yes...to me, in 1998, a 16 year old kid, The Aeroplane Over the Sea was revolutionary. And it kind of stuck. haha.

Pop Ryan (Rebelwordsmith), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

I've got all the respect in the world for kids growing up in Kazakhstan.

Goo-night, Swede Hurt (noodle vague), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha or New Jersey, as was my case.

Pop Ryan (Rebelwordsmith), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin - some of those bands may be crap, but watching Cold War Kids perform "Hospital Beds" was one of the best live experiences I've had in the last year. Then Tapes N Tapes played about an hour later, and a mediocre time was had by all.

cosmo vitelli (cosmo vitelli), Thursday, 29 June 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

i haven't seen them play, so I can't write them off, but from what I've heard i'm completely underwhelmed. to me cold war kids and t and t sound close to identical. it's like frat rock for the indie set

kevin barking (arghargh), Thursday, 29 June 2006 23:59 (nineteen years ago)

The buzz for Beirut was built by everyone *but* Pitchfork. I think he's pretty good. I don't think he's in the same league as NMH yet.

Steve Go1dberg (Steve Schneeberg), Friday, 30 June 2006 00:20 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get the hype. The NMH comparisons make no sense except for the horns. It's basically like Devotchka with lesser songwriting and crappier production.

Jacobo Rock (jacobo rock), Friday, 30 June 2006 00:40 (nineteen years ago)

i don't like NMH his voice is annoying

kevin barking (arghargh), Friday, 30 June 2006 00:41 (nineteen years ago)

Ry Ry??

gbx (skowly), Friday, 30 June 2006 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

I love Jeff Mangum's voice. And the lush orchestration is incredible. And the singing saws. you can't go wrong with singing saws. And I love that he took a lot of cues from Brian Wilson. In fact a lot of the Elephant 6 bands did that.

Pop Ryan (Rebelwordsmith), Friday, 30 June 2006 01:13 (nineteen years ago)

Ryan: We can see your username independently of your chosen "logins" and "emails". You can change your user settings to do the same. Since mine are set in such a way, I know it's you.

Fuck, I've only been here a year. I'm supposed to be a noob still!

Noodle OTM regarding this band, btw ("Can't judge it until it's been occupied by Matisyahu for a month.").

sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 30 June 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

Sleeve: I don't follow. I originally had my full name as my "your name" in my settings, but I wanted to change it to say Pop Ryan. I thought I fixed that in the settings. I'm confused. This is my first day here.

Pop Ryan (Rebelwordsmith), Friday, 30 June 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

i don't get matisyahu reference
i'm obviously extremely stupid

kevin barking (arghargh), Friday, 30 June 2006 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

history is yr pal

you make chatting lame (teenagequiet), Friday, 30 June 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

i'm definitely unedumacated

kevin barking (arghargh), Friday, 30 June 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

But it is not as revolutionary as NMH, which he is being compared to.

There are a few really major reasons to compare Beirut to NMH: the treatment of the horns, certain aspects of the vocals, the fixation on Europe and European history, and (generally) a lot of the moods and atmospheres being created.

That's how comparisons and similes work -- they point out what's alike. Levels of being-revolutionary aren't really relevant to those comparisons. We could point to a million indie bands who "sound like the Velvet Underground," and who in their right mind would say "yes, but the Velvet Underground were more important and influential?" It's as if someone said that snake tasted like chicken, and you said "but no, chickens have wings."

(I believe Shakespeare wrote a sonnet about this issue once.)

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 30 June 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think NMH has a fixation on Europe and European history. And I don't think Beirut sounds enough like them to really justify the comparison. It's not that I don't understand why people would compare the two; but I think it's a slightly lazy and largely inaccurate comparison.

Steve Go1dberg (Steve Schneeberg), Friday, 30 June 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

Beirut is not as revolutionary as Shakespeare, no matter what nabisco might claim.

max (maxreax), Friday, 30 June 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

thought Gulag Orkestra was alright. i haven't really spun it since last year though. new album good?

carne asada, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 13:02 (eighteen years ago)

It's nice, yeah. Review from me in the OC Weekly in a couple of weeks on it; it's basically an 'I love the French' album.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

I loved ‘Gulag Orkestar’ but I find ‘Lon Gisland’ to be very meh.

Mr. Goodman, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 14:42 (eighteen years ago)

Couldn't get on with Gulag Orkestar - maybe wasn't in the mood for rampant accordionism - but this new one is very appealing. Unexpectedly warm and moreish.

Matthew H, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 15:47 (eighteen years ago)

moreish?

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 16:09 (eighteen years ago)

As opposed to lessish

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 16:11 (eighteen years ago)

jeezeish

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

My favorite tracks on Gulag were the electronicky ones - and then I heard the song he did for the Believe and that one was electroncky too. How presence does that element have on the new album?

pgwp, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 16:24 (eighteen years ago)

I'm trying to imagine what a "I Love teh French" album sounds like. Musette?

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 16:33 (eighteen years ago)

Moorish.

Matthew H, Wednesday, 19 September 2007 16:36 (eighteen years ago)

there isn't much electronic influence on the new one. it's lovely though. it isn't a huge departure from the first. there is more of the fairground organ, it is better produced, he enunciates more, less trumpet, more violin.

keythkeyth, Thursday, 20 September 2007 02:35 (eighteen years ago)

"The Penalty" is quite nice, though the rest of this new one hasn't made much of an impact on me.

I hear more of an evident britpop influence (e.g., his new vocal style, the melodies) rather than the expected significant chanson chordal inflections. The arrangements are more mariachi (not a bad thing at all) than Brel.

Turangalila, Thursday, 27 September 2007 01:40 (eighteen years ago)

new one: lite.

sean gramophone, Thursday, 27 September 2007 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

breezy

keythkeyth, Friday, 28 September 2007 04:20 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

Going to re-check this out since Nantes is being played on the radio over here several times a day and it's, well, check out the live version (and The Penalty too) here:

http://www.blogotheque.net/article.php3?id_article=3455

StanM, Saturday, 22 December 2007 22:34 (eighteen years ago)

Oops. I meant "Clicquot," not The Penalty. It was a mislabeled mp3.

Turangalila, Saturday, 22 December 2007 23:17 (eighteen years ago)

wow that is horrible

cutty, Saturday, 22 December 2007 23:25 (eighteen years ago)

It is? It's quite refreshing to hear it on the radio, maybe I've only grown used to it, it didn't attract my attention when I first heard the album.

StanM, Saturday, 22 December 2007 23:35 (eighteen years ago)

maybe seeing what that dude looks like has totally ruined any chance of me ever liking that music

cutty, Saturday, 22 December 2007 23:45 (eighteen years ago)

Relistening to the first album, I like the Goran Bregovic-type melancholia.

StanM, Saturday, 22 December 2007 23:46 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

I like "My Night with the Prostitute from Marseille."

Mordy, Thursday, 19 March 2009 02:46 (seventeen years ago)

their performance on letterman was really very nice.

keythkeythkeyth, Friday, 20 March 2009 01:53 (seventeen years ago)

i saw them perform recently. it was a very sturdy show, really quite good. but i don't think i'll ever listen to them, myself.

Surmounter, Friday, 20 March 2009 01:56 (seventeen years ago)

that's unfortunate, because they are rather good.

keythkeythkeyth, Friday, 20 March 2009 01:59 (seventeen years ago)

sounded a little too sweet and tapestry-like, but i really don't have much to go on.

i do find his voice beautiful

Surmounter, Friday, 20 March 2009 02:02 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

i guess there's something new. it all sounds like a waltz at a carnival under the influence of really good opium.

Surmounter, Wednesday, 22 April 2009 17:02 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

So apparently Beirut is huge in Brazil. Crazy.

jaymc, Friday, 10 June 2011 03:21 (fourteen years ago)

It'd be wicked if instead of simply covering Beirut songs they'd adapt his style into their own language and music. Kind of like what the tropicalistas did with the british invasion.

◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝ (Moka), Friday, 10 June 2011 08:55 (fourteen years ago)

No one else anticipating the new album 'The Rip Tide' (Aug 30th)? First single 'East Harlem' is pretty decent. Listen below:

http://stereogum.com/721582/beirut-the-rip-tide-details/mp3s/

Broken Heartbeats Sound Like Breakbeats, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 00:20 (fourteen years ago)

i am anticipating it. but i have low standards.

keythhtyek, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 01:45 (fourteen years ago)

Based on the first single? At the very least, it shows a new direction, which I'd rather than a rehash of earlier stuff.

Broken Heartbeats Sound Like Breakbeats, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 01:49 (fourteen years ago)

It'd be wicked if instead of simply covering Beirut songs they'd adapt his style into their own language and music. Kind of like what the tropicalistas did with the british invasion.

A Banda Mais Bonita da Cidade is said to be Beirut-influenced:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW0i1U4u0KE

Don Rickles on the Dime (jaymc), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 02:11 (fourteen years ago)

i just have low standards in general, i like the new single very much. i used to lament that he was sucking up all of the attention that belonged to devotchka but they both seem to be doing alright. home town favoritism.

keythhtyek, Tuesday, 21 June 2011 04:09 (fourteen years ago)

It'd be wicked if instead of simply covering Beirut songs they'd adapt his style into their own language and music. Kind of like what the tropicalistas did with the british invasion.

A Banda Mais Bonita da Cidade is said to be Beirut-influenced:

― Don Rickles on the Dime (jaymc)

Not really hearing the Beirut influence but the video is definitely inspired by La Blogoteque's takeaway concerts in which Beirut has collaborated heavily. Are all of those members of the band?

◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝◦ ⃝ (Moka), Tuesday, 21 June 2011 09:40 (fourteen years ago)

new one has appeared, finding it very beautiful.

keythhtyek, Saturday, 2 July 2011 03:15 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

this one is the standout for me, 1 of my fav songs of the yr i think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYdXi-AseF8

johnny crunch, Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:57 (fourteen years ago)

are these guys really popular? just got an email (saying that laetitia sadier is opening for them), and they're playing a pretty large space in denver. i'll take a listen, don't think they'll be my thang though.

tylerw, Saturday, 20 August 2011 19:31 (fourteen years ago)

Saw them at a festival this summer. The people I was with that knew about them were really excited to see it, and the crowd seemed to really worship them. The show itself was good but by then I'd seen the oompha waltz-singer with suspenders playing off-mic trumpet with crowd vocals thing done a number of times by other bands, and it wasn't anything that blew my mind. Good beer-waving music.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 20 August 2011 23:08 (fourteen years ago)

twelve years pass...

https://last-donut-of-the-night.ghost.io/beirut-zach-condon-interview/

Interesting interview with Zach Condon re his own health, touring , the music biz

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 8 November 2023 16:56 (two years ago)


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