Velvet Underground - Live At Max's Kansas City (reissue)

Is the "new" Velvet Underground live CD (in Kansas City I think) a good CD?

i dunno, i like the Quine tapes more just because of the Sister Ray/Searchin stuff and Follow the Leader.
but, it's nice as a document to the end of the band.

And Billy Yule is the highlight of the disc for me. Listen to him get loose on "Beginning to See the Light." He's a madman.

bowie thought so. he saw the post-lou vu in nyc and struck up a conversation with doug assuming he was lou (he'd never seen any of them in person yet).

How is the sound quality of those drug deal transactions on this release anyway? Was this release given the quadrophonic treatment? Will I be able to hear street corner locations and slang with the fidelity I've been waiting for and craving?

Anybody who does DIME grab these? only 30 second samples sadly. i've heard two of these and they're definitely better quality than the official max's.

The Joseph Freeman tape

Joseph Freeman: "I recorded an entire set at Max's (around the same time as Polk's). The tape was recorded on a Sony TCS-124 a portable stereo cassette recorder with an external single stereo mic. The quality of the tape is very good and has never been bootlegged. I may be interested in having this tape surface as a legitimate release".

01 I'm Waiting For The Man
02 White Light/White Heat
03 I'm Set Free
04 Lonesome Cowboy Bill
05 Who Loves The Sun
06 Sweet Jane
07 New Age
08 unidentified bluesy instrumental
09 It's Just Too Much
10 Ocean
11 I'll Be Your Mirror
12 What Goes On
13 Head Held High
14 Oh! Sweet Nuthin'
15 Some Kinda Love

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=440715

Wot no Rock n Roll?

Someone give that Joseph Freeman dude some money, pronto

for realzzzz

Just listened to the expanded version of this album, I'm struggling to hear why people thought the sound quality was so bad, it's actually pretty good for something that was (supposedly) recorded on a cassette recorder. You can hear all the instruments and vocals and the sound is well balanced. Lou's vocals are strong and tuneful and a reminder that, once upon a time, he could actually sing live... plus he's in full on charming Lou mode. Some bum notes on some of the slower numbers and, as we all know, Billy Yule overplays alarmingly - but then his drumming on "Some Kinda Love" is fantastic. Talking of which, I confess I didn't know Lou was involved in editing and sequencing the original album, in which case how on earth could be choose "Lonesome Cowboy Bill" over "White Light/White Heat" or "I'm Set Free" or the aforementioned "Some Kinda Love" (which is probably the best thing on the album)?

I totally forgot there as an expanded version of this! Yeah, the fidelity never bothered me, but I'm grateful for any live VU.

Never minded the sound either, just the performance and track selection issues just mentioned. Was unaware of the expanded edition as well. Will have to listen, maybe right now.

Still all I can hear is basically Billy Y.

Okay, Sterl just started soloing so I’m starting to feel better.

maybe get yourself a Pernod? or a Tuinal?

Heh

Yeah, I heard it but... it's it's it's pretty new...

Did anything happen with that Joseph Freeman tape?

nothing! freeman even showed up briefly in the Todd Haynes VU doc, but I haven't heard anything about his tapes being released. Very strange, considering how much the barrel has been scraped... feel like his tape might be better than the actual Max's release.

Billy Yule is the quintessential teenage drummer who has to throw in a fill at every possible moment

― shookout (shookout), Thursday, August 10, 2006

this is what makes the album impossible to enjoy for me, turns out that Mo's absence is where I finally get off the bus with this band

I can't remember if I did it on this thread but I have a way of rendering that style which goes something like this:
A boom-boom CHACK
A boom-boom CHACK
A boom-boom CHACK
A-thud-a-thud-a-thud-a-thud
A boom-boom CHACK
etc

lol yes, plus the bippitybippitybippityswish fills, ad infinitum

oh wait you meant Mo's style, that makes more sense

It's not that different to the drumming on "Loaded", just more excitable.

No, Mo's style is totally different, hers is
(1-e-and-a ) BOOM (3-e-and-a ) BOOM
(1-e-and-a ) BOOM (3-e-and-a ) BOOM
(1-e-and-a ) BOOM (3-e-and-a ) BOOM
(1-e-and-a ) BOOM (3-e-and-a ) BOOM

Where the stuff in parens is played by Lou's guitar.

He really gets carried away on "Beginning to See the Light".

The drumming on Loaded is much more conventional than Mo's but also not nearly as teenage talent show as on Max's, at least it's reined in or edited for clarity or something.

Also what I was rendering was the TYPICAL teenage talent show drummer, Billy can't even wait until bar four to do his childish fills.

Maybe those last BOOMs should be CHACKs

xp lol

oh no - the drumming on Max's never bothered me but now it's going to, isn't it?

sorry!

If it didn't bother you before, I don't see why it would now.

whoa I never knew Ian Paice played drums on Squeeze!

As I said earlier his drumming on "Some Kinda Love" is really good - young Billy that is, not Ian Paice. He really gets a hypnotic relentless groove going on with Sterling' guitar and... no fills!

That's all the way near the end at the penultimate spot, maybe I will just skip to that then.

I feel like maybe I just probably need to wear out the Quine/Matrix stuff by listening to it thousands more times before I get to this.

And I guess I just don't know.

I don't like to criticize but Tom D, you are RONG! There is a super-annoying cymbal thing Billy is doing on "Some Kinda Love." But maybe you can't hear that high anymore.

The Troggs’ Live at Max’s is a pretty good alternative, if you can’t hang with the VU tape!

It would have been better if, say, Ondine was sitting at table and talking (trash) (about Lou, say).

I don't like to criticize but Tom D, you are RONG! There is a super-annoying cymbal thing Billy is doing on "Some Kinda Love." But maybe you can't hear that high anymore.

You mean when he's hitting the bell of the cymbal? I like it!