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With reference to the Romo thread.

List either terms invented to describe shortlived micro-scenes that never caught on, or perhaps terms that got replaced by other more popular terms.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Haircut house
Hyphy
Jazz

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

LOL

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Grime.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I misread the thread question. Replace grime with 'eski'.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Brit Hop
Smash House
Hooligan House
Acid Funk
Shuffletech
NAM (New Acoustic Movement)
Shroomadelica
Camden Lurch
Nursery Grime

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

http://oberlin.edu/student/lfamular/headache.jpg

― a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

esperanto-billy
post-esperanto-billy
christian rock

― J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Grindie

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Scotpop

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

Magimix
Acidic Cortez
Suburban Plum'n'suitcase
Microlatin
General Electric

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

or just make em up Louis, whatever suits you best.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Microlatin
General Electric

Genius...

Teutonic Macumba
Survivor-core
Hip-Hopscotch
Tiny Tim

― J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Brassic disco
Skunk rock

― Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

btw, for those who don't know there is already at least two threads devoted to made up genres. this is for real ones that died an early death.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

"Shroomadelica" and "Skunk Rock" = the low point for scene-based press coverage of music in the UK. Perhaps "Grindie" will make it an unholy trinity, though.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever genre the Lo-Fidelity Allstars belonged to.

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Skunk Rock

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

I think? It was a while ago. They weren't nwonw, at least.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Skunk rock: scene made up by the NME to justify existence of Lo-Fis, Campag Velocet and Regular Fries.

Brassic disco: similar, but with the fag-end of big beat. I think there was a compilation of the same name.

― Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

brassic beats rings a vague bell but no more.

I bet all of these "failed genres" will be creations of nme/mm/sounds '85-'05.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Quirkysomethings!

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

brassic beats rings a vague bell but no more.

compilation series from the Skint label (DYS)

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

The NME were calling the Super Furry Animals "Neu Psych" for a while.

― everything (everything), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

I would argue that Speed Garage meant almost nothing to America... So I'm throwing that one on the pile, recognizing that brits might disagree.

― Morgan Patrick (public_radio), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Danceprog

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe Brassic Disoc is a figment of my imagination, then. Skunk rock was definitely real, insofar as any NME-invented micro-scene is real!

― Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

I remember the NME had a 'Skunk Rock' top ten: My Bloody Valentine's 'To Here Knows When' was Number 6. I was fucking livid.

Of the rest I can only remember Super Furries' "The Man Don't Give A Fuck", Lo-Fidelity Allstars' "Kool Roc Bass", Flowered Up's "Weekender" and Renegade Soundwave's "Cocaine Sex".

All great songs, but lumping them altogether with the sole intention of making Campag Velocet and Regular Fries look like they were part of a scene really incensed me. Renegade Soundwave, Flowered Up and MBV were long broken up at that point anyway!

― Ruairi Wirewool (Ruairi Wirewool), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Pash already glanced at the New Wave of New Wave.

― Son of Spam (noodle vague), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

To go with Konal's suggestion of Brit Hop: Amyl House.

And perhaps the least appealing genre name in history: "stool rock", which was an alternative name for the short-lived New Acoustic Movement, also mentioned upthread.

― Neil Stewart (Neil Stewart), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Pig Metal

― Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Thursday, 10 August 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

“hobo funk”*

*(Not a joke! I was in a Waxie Maxie’s near my high school, circa. ’94 or ’95. The in-store pre-recorded DJ introduced a song I can’t describe by a group I don’t remember by saying “XXX call what they do ‘hobo funk.’)

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 10 August 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Said “DJ” sounded like a third-rate Casey Kasem

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 10 August 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Said “DJ” sounded like a third-rate Casey Kasem

Wow...thats incredibly bad...

― J. Grizzle (trainsmoke), Thursday, 10 August 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

Senor Coconut

― Sir Dr. Rev. PappaWheelie Jr. II of The Third Kind (PappaWheelie 2), Thursday, 10 August 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

C86

― autovac (autovac), Thursday, 10 August 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

Goa

― like murderinging (modestmickey), Thursday, 10 August 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

C86 is hardly a "failed" genre as still going about as strongly as ever - tons of bands, all doing badly. I can't actually think of any of the original C86 acts that had a hit without going mainstream and essentially abandoning the iconographic identifiers of C86 (Soup Dragons and Primal Scream went baggy, The Primitives went mainstream). Belle and Sebastian are about the only major act I guess.

― everything (everything), Thursday, 10 August 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

The New Grave

"Whorehouse" (wtf?)

― William Murderface (coach_mcguirk), Thursday, 10 August 2006 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

Goa

you wish

illbient isnt doing too well, and industrial dub

― ferzaffe (flezaffe), Thursday, 10 August 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever genre Sigue Sigue Sputnik were supposed to invent.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 10 August 2006 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

And Grebo?
Sure may have made a couple of NME frontpages around 1990, but it never really took of as a genre that people would actually want to listen to, did it?

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 10 August 2006 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

The genre Chumbawumba belonged to. Eco-beat or whatever it was.

― Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Thursday, 10 August 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

Is Electroclash failed, or just crap?

― David A. (Davant), Thursday, 10 August 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

Which reminds me, Electrocrass!

― David A. (Davant), Thursday, 10 August 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

xpost. Both.

― jimnaseum - formalist rigour! (jimnaseum), Thursday, 10 August 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

Re: illbient. Will never forget reading Jess on the subject, namely, and i am paraphrasing here, that 'illbient was up there for worst ideas of the 90s with Nafta and wearing your clothes backwards'

that still cracks me up!

btw, not to be a jerk to the person upthread or anything, just fyi: there's a guy in toledo, ohio, kileak he's called, who still plays some great speed garage

― tate (Tate), Friday, 11 August 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Skunk_Rock

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Friday, 11 August 2006 08:38 (nineteen years ago)

And Grebo?
Sure may have made a couple of NME frontpages around 1990, but it never really took of as a genre that people would actually want to listen to, did it?
-- Geir Hongro (geirhon...), August 10th, 2006.

oh you wish!

― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Friday, 11 August 2006 09:03 (nineteen years ago)

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Miami bass (yeah, people keep quoting it/nodding at it, but who's making actual Miami bass?)

oh, and Maggotron has finihsed his new album

x-post

― Sir Dr. Rev. PappaWheelie Jr. II of The Third Kind (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 11 August 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

right right, so Tejano still isn't a failed genre like the others listed here I'd say.

lounge revival
and Pupinni sisters

― Major Alfonso (Major Alfonso), Friday, 11 August 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

Trip hop just survives huh. Does drum n bass?

― paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 11 August 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

Zydecoton

― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Friday, 11 August 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

Miami bass (yeah, people keep quoting it/nodding at it, but who's making actual Miami bass?)

Lady Sovereign - Love Me or Hate Me

jsut replaced

Fannypack - Camel Toe

― Sir Dr. Rev. PappaWheelie Jr. II of The Third Kind (PappaWheelie 2), Saturday, 12 August 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

How about lambada?

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 12 August 2006 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

Failed genres just need a little bit of regime change.

― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 12 August 2006 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

My first girlfriend ever, Christina Gonzales made me to go see the movie, "Lambada" with her..I was like 12. It was really fucking awkward.

― astronautagogo (astronautagogo), Saturday, 12 August 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

Schaffel
Ketamine House
Nano Trance

Eh? Eh?

― Miki (Miki), Sunday, 13 August 2006 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

― ferzaffe (flezaffe), Sunday, 13 August 2006 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

"Camden Lurch"!!!

I still treasure my "Incursions in Illbient" CD.

― Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 13 August 2006 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

Math Rock, well it was just Post Rock really wasn't it.

Is anyone still making Jungle as opposed to Drum'n'Bass these days?

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

The New Wave Of New Wave

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, it may have resurfaced later as Britpop and then the postpunk-revival. But NWONW was hardly a long-lasting thing.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

Lion Pop
Blip-Hop

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

spock rock

― i've dreamt of rubies! (Mandee), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

drone house

― genital hyphys (haitch), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

1) pigfuck
2) Bosstown Sound

― mike a (mike a), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Lion-pop was only one band. Hardly counts as a genre.

― everything (everything), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

Lady Sovereign - Love Me or Hate Me

Shouldn't Miami bass be, y'know, bassier than that?

― Erroneous Botch (joseph cotten), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

Lion-pop was only one band. Hardly counts as a genre.

Hm I seem to remember NME trying to shoehorn at least Cud, Pulp and My Life Story in there?

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

Why? What was it supposed to be? I always thought it was Cud's name for their own music.

― everything (everything), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

I think it was something about being more extrovert than the shoegazers etc, or something.

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

seven months pass...

srsly, Microlatin

― unfished business, Thursday, 22 March 2007 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

http://oberlin.edu/student/lfamular/headache.jpg

^ can somebody favicon this?

― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 22 March 2007 01:23 (nineteen years ago)

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3447/faviconez0.gif

― abanana, Thursday, 22 March 2007 03:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7243/faviconta4.gif

― abanana, Thursday, 22 March 2007 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

Horror Rap

Anyone remember this def jam absolute failure from the early 90s?

― MaGoGo, Thursday, 22 March 2007 03:44 (nineteen years ago)

Goa

Since this is just an interchangeable synonym for psych trance, which is still live and doing well after 12+ years, I'd say no.

Was "intelligent jungle" ever a proper genre?

― Tuomas, Thursday, 22 March 2007 07:22 (nineteen years ago)

Is horror rap same as horrorcore (Gravediggaz, Killah Priest, etc.)?

― Tuomas, Thursday, 22 March 2007 07:23 (nineteen years ago)

Porncore.

I saw intelligent jungle on a flyer just this weekend, take that how you will. The event didn't look all that reputable (Tuesday night at a tea bar in the back room with three laptop DJs) but I guess its, um, "out there" still.

And yes, Tuomas, horror rap = horrorcore. At least, according to Wikipedia. I'm not sure if I want to go the full step to endorse the article, however, that tries to link Wu Tang, Eminem, Three Six Mafia, and Insane Clown Posse under one "roof."

― Xii, Thursday, 22 March 2007 09:21 (nineteen years ago)

Was "intelligent jungle" ever a proper genre?

it was only either one or the other as far as i can recall

― blueski, Thursday, 22 March 2007 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

RIP dog latin ;_;

― pretzel walrus, Thursday, 22 March 2007 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

It was always 'intelligent drum and bass' or just plain 'jungle', along with variants like hardstep, jump-up and so on. All of which is Drum and Bass, innit? And DnB cannot possibly be a 'failed genre', for a lot of reasons. One is, it was way too groundbreaking and influential. Remember when you first heard it, & how it sounded totally alien. Now it is so normal they use it on gardening programs. Another is, it was 'massive' at the time (early 90s). Another is, it is still a recognisable current musical genre, with people still releasing Dnb records. And you can't really say that about 'fraggle'. Oh, and also, it is bloody good. So in what sense could it be classed as a 'failue'?

― Richard Graham, Thursday, 22 March 2007 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

haha i loaded up this thread and thought "goa." then i scrolled down and realized that's what i said months ago.

― modestmickey, Thursday, 22 March 2007 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Christian Metalcore

― anthony, Thursday, 22 March 2007 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Does Skunk Rock have a general aesthetic, if so please define.

― davedestroybox, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

Now it is so normal they use it on gardening programs.

Perhaps this is a good indicator of any perceived failure.

I refuse to call it Drum & Bass still tho. Terrible failure of imagination in genre-naming terms at least!

― blueski, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

digital hardcore

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Skunk Rock: Pale thin studenty blokes with lank longish hair and crap clothes (except for Pete Voss's cycling gear) on bass guitars, synths and decks.

― blueski, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

drill n' bass

― henry s, Sunday, 25 March 2007 01:36 (nineteen years ago)

punk rock

― latebloomer, Sunday, 25 March 2007 07:18 (nineteen years ago)

j/k?

― latebloomer, Sunday, 25 March 2007 07:42 (nineteen years ago)

elevator skronk
billycore
easy metal
grunge hop
psych-ragtime
electroacoustic jùjú

― Goethe*s Elective Affinities, Sunday, 25 March 2007 07:43 (nineteen years ago)

soft cheese
death boogie
broken breaks
ambient muffin
post-pop
raggaemo
rock and droll

― Goethe*s Elective Affinities, Sunday, 25 March 2007 07:53 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.horrorseek.com/halloween/csolsen/bottom-barrel.jpg

― Goethe*s Elective Affinities, Sunday, 25 March 2007 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

I think punk has failed rather profoundly

― R.O.Q.U.E., Sunday, 25 March 2007 09:27 (nineteen years ago)

Indie

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 25 March 2007 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still trying to work out what else counts as Nu-Rave (shudder) other than the Klaxons?

― the next grozart, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 08:30 (nineteen years ago)

Arsequake

― NickB, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 08:41 (nineteen years ago)

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