Multitrack Audio Editting Softwares: Discuss!

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A thread not limited to only protools, but relating to all the other packages out there, from Abelton Live, to Audacity, etc. The place to talk about advantages and disadvantages of each, updates, and so on.

I prefer using Sonar. I dont do protools because I've never gotten any of their hardware, and the free version does not work on my windows XP. so i have no experience with that. What i don't really get is Cubase - I have used this, and find the interface of Sonar to be much more usable/intuitive.

can i hear from others who have something against sonar? how about those who love Cubase, or Protools or something else instead and have tried other multitrack packages - what made you stick with what you're using now?


AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 20 April 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

I like Cubase because it's the only one I've taken the time to learn, and I find the editing to be pretty intuitive. I kind of wish I had sprung for Pro Tools though, if only because the EQs are better and more people use it.

Also:

Cubase: Classic or Dud?
ableton 5 vs reason 3

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 20 April 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

I've been using an old copy of cubase sx 2.0 for a few years. I've used it for everything from midi sequencing and audio chopping, to recording live groups of people with a motu 896 (8 tracks). I've never had any reason to go to another daw or even upgrade to a new version. If it's not broken, why fuck with it?

0nous, Thursday, 20 April 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

heh, i neglected to check ILM...

jordan, why do you say the EQs are better?

AaronK (AaronK), Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

According to my engineer buddy, Pro Tools has more detailed EQs that are better for drilling down into certain frequency ranges, or something. Not that it would help me now, though, I'm an EQ novice.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 21 April 2006 01:54 (nineteen years ago)

editing audio in protools >>>>>>> editing audio in cubase

but i learned in protools first. i like cubase though and have been using it since ver. 4 (OS 9!?). if protools were to make a free version for OSX i'd hit it.

real question is cubase sx vs. nuendo? they're so similar. i'd use nuendo if i could afford it

nervous.gif (eman), Friday, 21 April 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

According to my engineer buddy, Pro Tools has more detailed EQs that are better for drilling down into certain frequency ranges, or something. Not that it would help me now, though, I'm an EQ novice.

sure, the bundled protools stuff is probably better than any other onboard DAW EQ, but there are tons of amazing eq plug-ins out there at a fraction of the cost.

logic's onboard stuff is quite generic - ok for workhorse stuff but not a lot of flavour - love the interface and the audio/midi features though. so why go for all the bells and whistles when i can run Logic express 7.2 instead of the full version and spend the difference on some lovely plugs?

protools is fantastic if you're stuck for ideas about how to spend your trust fund. i wouldn't get suckered into that line of thinking - check the price!

john clarkson, Friday, 21 April 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

the presonus package that now comes with Sonar is really good, from my experience. the EQ i've found is especially powerful and usable. how does the PT eq compare to these, anyone?

AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 21 April 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

but there are tons of amazing eq plug-ins out there at a fraction of the cost.

i'm talking btw about PT ridiculous hardware prices not their free download DAW LE. screw waves also w/ their rip-off business practices.

like this!! http://www.focusrite.com/productdetails.asp?id=62&iRange=1

40 compressors, 20 eq's, 32 channels, onboard dsp via firewire under £500. mmmm eyes glaze over. must have...

john clarkson, Friday, 21 April 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

(continued) out of 20 vintage EQ emulations, pick your favourite frequency bands out of each and chain up to 7 of them together to make a Hybrid Super EQ.

hahahahahahah that's fucking insane

john clarkson, Friday, 21 April 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

that is kind of crazy. i cant personally foresee ever having to have that sort of functionality.

AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 21 April 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

My ear must totally suck, because for the most part, I can't ever tell the difference between one EQ and another--this probably explains y i suck at mixing--what's a good way to test the differences? What are you looking for? Is it really subjective stuff like warmth? Or something else?

Minimaxi, Friday, 21 April 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

an eq should sound good. they all do the same thing ie cut/boost defined freqs but have differing flavours. someone will know better why this is but for me some things sound musical and others don't. i can use a tool on a signal path and it will work or not. some are awful, some do the job with no flair and others just add that something.

(x-post)i was dreaming of getting my hands on a liquid channel but knew i'd never ever be able to afford one. then i knew i'd be dreaming of having another one for the stereo bus and so on. now they made this.

it's like they read my freakin mind, made it 50x better and cut the cost by 2/3rds.


john clarkson, Friday, 21 April 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

i am a novice at this, but i really like Ardour (www.ardour.org). it's a pretty powerful piece of software that is FREE and open-source (not that i have the first idea how to take advantage of that). Its a DAW, without midi sequencing or anyhting like that though. it's great for recording and editing, it aspires to be a protools that's free and 'for the people'. its not as powerful as protools but close, i think? definitely a major cut above audacity.

the thing about it is you can't use it in windows - linux and mac only. and it's kind of a bitch to get it to run VST plugins, but it can. the LADSPA plugins that it likes are cool but limited

bhcxjk, Saturday, 22 April 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

it aspires to be a protools that's free and 'for the people'

"For the people," hmmmm. I was able to secure the last edition of Cool Edit Pro before it became Adobe Audition, Acid 4.0, CD Architect and a ton of loop libraries, most of which I'll never need, on eBay for around ninety dollars. Came with manual in a binder, too, apparently part of a corporate licensing that was being retired. That's virtually free, plus it runs on my platform. The idea behind Audacity is ambitious but ...

George 'the Animal' Steele, Saturday, 22 April 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks for the Ardour link, it's...interesting I guess but missing some key things i.e. tools/toolbar. They made some odd choices with the menus and overall layout, it's just not as simple and transparent as SoundEdit or ProTools. Also it needs to run inside x11.

On the plus side it did introduce me to JackOSX though which seems like something that might come in handy for other audio apps I have, I'll have to play around with that.

/me aaaaaaaaaa (eman), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
I'm using a PC with a split screen set up and just got protools running. The mix and edit windows are restricted to the main window area. Anyone know how to seperate the two windows so i can split them. I'm guessing it something simple, but if you really can't do this then i'll be pissed.

Cheers

Ian McIntyre (Cinder), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

Kindly disregard previous.

Ian McIntyre (Cinder), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

I use Kristal Audio Engine (kreatives.org), and I'm very happy with the results I get. It has some big limitations, but seems quite powerful for a free program, and it's got a great protools-y interface. Much better than trying to record and mix in Audacity.

But I've used ProTools a lot and I like it. I can work quite efficiently in it. I like Sonar, too, but the ProTools setup I've used has way better plugins and what have you.

Steve Goldberg (Steve Goldberg), Saturday, 13 May 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS

PC "State of the art" machine (> 1 GHz recommended)
OS Windows XP or 2000


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Unlimited Toothpicker (eman), Saturday, 13 May 2006 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

Pro Tools is great for audio, but Ssonar 3-5 is far better for MIDI hands down. Also more instrument definitions, free open-source DXi and VST plugins, in addition to Rewire...both instruments and effects. It also uses the free asio driver, my m-audio asio, or my design asio driver. I first do most non-looped compositions in Sonar, then create a template and produce in Pro Tools for customers, and because I paid too much for it.

tricubra duamada, Monday, 15 May 2006 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

I'm all over that Focusrite box if the sound is decent.

xpost

jng (jng), Monday, 15 May 2006 07:14 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
[spam]

ringtones free, Saturday, 29 July 2006 03:21 (nineteen years ago)

The only ringtone I want to hear is the sound of your head ringing against the pavement as I bounce it thus with my trusty sledgehammer.

Shoes say, yeah, no hands clap your good bra. (goodbra), Saturday, 29 July 2006 03:58 (nineteen years ago)

Reaper+plugins=done.

The GZeus (The GZeus), Saturday, 29 July 2006 05:29 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

TRACKTION

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 16:13 (seventeen years ago)

I've recently been mucking about with a mic and a cheap delay pedal. Good fun, although the pedal doesn't do quite a long enough delay for what I'm doing. Is there some sort of program that will let me do the same thing? I mean, is there something like Audacity which you can start recording and then set to loop back at some point while continuing to record?

the next grozart, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 21:33 (seventeen years ago)

Do you have a Mac? I think some of the audio units can do this

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 21:34 (seventeen years ago)

nah i have a crap pc.

the next grozart, Wednesday, 30 April 2008 22:46 (seventeen years ago)

TRACKTION

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:29 (seventeen years ago)

I use Reaper and find it quite good for this sort of thing - you can set loop points and start recording and when it gets to the end loop point, the recording starts as a take on the next track at the start loop point. Is that what you're trying to do?

Rob M v2, Thursday, 1 May 2008 15:33 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

I just got the Apogee Duet, and I'd just like to say, HALLELUJAH! After fuxing with the Konnekt24D that we had for a while, this is a godsend.

Also, so that N/A doesn't feel like it's another gear post, which it is. We've also written some new songs on the gear! And they're not bad! Or at least, they sound cool! Little Jim Keltner on the drumses!

Jubalique die Zitronen, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:25 (seventeen years ago)

four years pass...

i downloaded reaper yesterday and spent a chunk of the day experimenting with it but i feel like i might be too dumb for it. i can't get it to recognize my keyboard as a controller for soft synths. i put the instructions on my kindle though so i can slog through them.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago)

Maybe your setup is different, but I use a MIDI keyboard with softsynths in Reaper like this:

1) Add a new track
2) Choose (my audio interface) MIDI as track input
3) Add softsynth to track FX
4) Turn on track input monitoring
5) Arm track for recording

St3ve Go1db3rg, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago)

thanks, i think i just need to slog through the instructions and muddle my way through. i thought it would be more intuitive than it is.

congratulations (n/a), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 19:16 (twelve years ago)


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