John D

anyway, some slightly psychotic people, on a thread i started, have since crossed what i consider "the line" into personal harassment, and i'd kinda appreciate it if you could perform some degoogilization there. there's a difference between being an annoying fucktard, and annoying an annoying fucktard, and being an annoying fucktard, and trying to fuck with that fucktards personal life. thanks.

i can't post to ile anymore trayce. :(

don't do drugs.

i still think it's rather laughable that my supposed drug use was considered irresponsible. there are many many worse things i could've and might have in fact done, than post nonsense to a god damn internet message board.

i'm not "crying for help" fuck's sake, and if i was, i gotta say you guys did a pretty shitty job of handling it!! this was, as i think i've said, a product of very intense boredom, a boredom which, god willing, is soon going to be alleviated. which is not to say i'll stop taking the medicine, just that, you know, i probably won't have a computer much less the internet when i'm living alone in a dingy one-room apartment. so there ya go.

i am not entirely sure what i just said.

i kind of like that picture.

i have a feeling aaron is going to follow me around for the rest of my life. speaking of which teeny, you really shouldn't fuck with paranoids like that. everytime i hear the phone ring now i think it's going to be you on the other end, cackling and screaming about how i'm a pathetic dope fiend (i'm totally not, btw). or george or aaron, they're crazy enough to pull that kind of shit too.

or wait i think that is what he was trying to express. whoops.

bye aaron.

and um, if you, or anyone else, calls my parents, or me, or in any way makes an attempt to negatively effect my personal life or that of anyone's close to me over some random fucked up message board postings, i will kill you, because i really do think that's obscene.

but let's just be cool, k, studmuffin-man.

look, i did someting stupid, i admitted to it & apologized for it, i'm done doing it, and i'll never post to your pathetic fucking message board again. now please, christ, just leave me alone. i mean holy shit this is insane, i say two posts above don't fuck with a paranoid and you then proceed to fuck with a paranoid. what the fuck.

goodnight & thank you.

I've no intention of causing you any emotional grief or anything, so you can rest assured I won't phone your folks or try to impinge upon your personal life in any way. I just hope you can see that most people around here didn't particularly enjoy your drug-fuelled posting sprees. I mean, I'm glad that if you're going to get really fucked up you're at least not going out and doing anything that's seriously harming yourself or others, but in terms of ILE: enough is enough, guy.

Take care.

anyway, you really needn't have banned me cuz i'm pretty much done with the whole early AM "do dru9s and post to ile thing" and onto the whole "do dru6s and drive aimlessly at speeds in excess of 100 mph" thing, tho i hate to admit, i kinda preferred ile. interaction and mental stimulation vs observation and physical stimulation, or somesuch. but yeah, again its prolly just the dru8s but i think this whole experience may've scared me off the internet forever, so no worries.

ps for all ye who googled here, i'm just kidding about the dru7s, and the dr1ving, and the ver4city of any posts contained herein signed by yours truly.

also, it just occurred to me that it might look like i was trying to lay a very nasty guilt trip on you w/ that last para there; i assure you that was completely unintentional, just more pointless rambling, and i've no beef w/ you guys or the way yr doing business.

This is what pissed me off more than anything really, the implication that if we didn't let him behave like an ass on ILE, he was just going to go out and kill somebody on the road, and the blood would be on our hands. He made that veiled threat more than once. Back when my brother was 13 and starting to drink, and I was 15 and had a driver's license, when we would drive past stores that let him buy, he would grab the steering wheel and say "If you don't stop here, I'm going to run us into the ditch and it's going to be your fuckin' fault." He pulled me off the road more than once. I had my fill of that shit then and I don't want to have to deal with more of it now, "kinda lame" or not.

No one here wants that to happen! Not that banning him will stop his actions but if it gives him pause to think "hey am I acting over the top?" then thats a Good Thing.

Doesn't Calum remain unbanned for technical reasons to do with his IP? (I don't know how banning works, whether it's IP- or login-based or what.)

he's the only person banned from ile it clearly has been deemed such.

I don't think that's a good inference. At the most, you'd have to argue that banning John indicates he's "the very worst" since banning was implemented, but even then I don't think it works -- I don't think there's a spectrum or meter anyone's reading here, and I don't think "bad message board behavior" comes in a single flavor that varies only in intensity. If teeny -- and I'm not speaking for her, but it's hard to talk purely in generalities when it's someone's actual decision we're talking about -- decided one flavor warranted different, faster, or more extreme action than another, she wouldn't be unique in that respect.

Presumably you'd need to weigh good against bad, for one thing -- i.e. if Ned had made every one of John's posts, he wouldn't have been banned because there's more reason to keep him.

Likewise, there's simple "behaving like an ass" that's confined to a single thread or type of thread and doesn't necessarily affect the board as a whole, and there's the rapid multiple nonsense thread creation -- and continued posting, keeping those threads alive -- that coughs hairballs all over New Answers.

Third, but probably not last, is the fact that he was asked to stop by moderators; he had threads locked; he had threads deleted; and it was a cycle of behavior that had already gone through multiple apologies, promises, and apologies for breaking promises. This wasn't out of the blue, and virtually all of his interaction on ILE had become an ongoing discussion of his behavior.

This is correct. As far as I know, John is actually free to start a new account/login and post to ILE again, the only thing that is banned is his login. It's really a pretty minor form of discipline. He is not the only person who's had their login banned.

i basically realized you are all as insane and disturbed as i am and that scared the shit out of me more than anything so that's part why i'm not posting to ile anymore - well ok its cuz im banned but even if i wasn't i would've changed logins and never given out my real name again (WHY DIDNT WE LISTEN TO OUR MOTHERS AND FATHERS AND TEACHERS). you freaks.

i mean i seem to have no prob w/ insane and disturbed ppl irl but this is something completely different. i detest phone/aim/email convos because well i'm not going to go into it right now but i'm not sure why i shouldn't toss msg boards into that trash heap. of course then when i do go out and talk to real ppl it dawns on me that just about everyone (.) is as insane and disturbed as i am and then i'm unsure whether to laugh or to cry.

teeny i am glad to hear we may be somewhat "cool" i am def going to busch sometime this spring/summer so mebbe we can "meet up" and get things "straightened out".

also trayce i see what you did there w/ that first sentence of yours and i kinda resent it.

also i'm not suicidal, was never suicidal during any point of that "madness", and, i'm ashamed to say, have never really-truly been suicidal [self-destructive behavior /= suicidal behavior, chaps. same, even, with loud, obnoxious, self-destructive behavior - altho there are exceptions so maybe i COULD give you some kind of pass, but i'm not going to]. i have a lot more to say on this whole thing and any number of tangents but it's really not that interesting. the whole thing, that is, incl anything i've gotta say.

(I am not calling John a troll, just to clarify)

Your snappy summary of the situation is fundamentally flawed. We have taken significantly more drastic measures against Calum in the past, but in the land of the internet there's no real way of stopping persistent, motivated people short of closing the boards off and charging for accounts.

Blount, you seem really dedicated to completely misunderstanding the situation here. It was simply due to the intervention of the mods that John's board spamming didn't interrupt your ILE experience. If they hadn't done such a good job, you would have noticed.

Matt DC is OTM. If John had kept his stuff consigned to a smaller number of threads (ie if he wasn't just pandering for attention, something he's received far too much of by this stage anyway) there would not have been an issue in the first place. As you say, Blount, there have been plenty of people to post intoxicated on the boards in the past, but they've not impacted readibility in the way that John did.

(I know he's posting again at ILBaseball, and more power to him.)