Things will NEVER be the same (and they actually WEREN'T!)

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A shorter thread, I suspect.

World-shaking events which actually made lasting changes to a status quo - of a character, a universe, whatever?

Let's say - four or more years old, that's about 50 issues isn't it?

Again this is mostly relevant to the Big Two, probably.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Crisis on Infinite Earths.

Things weren't exactly different, but they weren't the same.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

http://members.tripod.com/~Magnesite/aw1.jpg

― chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

Eh?

Yes, Crisis, at least for another few months.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

The Apocalypse War! Mega-City 1 was all fucked up for at least a few years.

― chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

OMG TRIPOD I REMEMBER THAT!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

The death of Barry Allen.

Emerald Twilight?. That reboot lasted for about ten years, so I would say it counts.

Aquaman has his hand chewed by piranhas!.

Superman marries Lois Lane.

Can't really think of anything by Marvel...

― Amadeo (Amadeo G.), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

How long was Jean Gray dead for?

― chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

I don't think long-term changes which have now been reversed count (well not in my hardline brain)

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

Norman Osborne did stay dead for at least 20 years, though. That's pretty impressive. Jean was dead for about 5, I think.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

Dick Grayson and Wally West are probably DC's strongest examples.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Every Cerebus storyline made lasting changes. Except for the ones where he sits around getting pissed.

― chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Until maybe last month (and that might well be a double bluff) the bullet thru Babra Gordon's spine would also be a pretty good things will never be the same again. Though it came out fo completely different motivations.

― Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

Joker: Still Crazy After All These Years.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

Why was Alan Moore allowed to cripple Batgirl in a graphic novel? I mean, it's a great story, and a great change to the character, I'm just surprised that DC agreed.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

Because Alan Moore=$.

― chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

It wasn't THAT great of a story. And it was kind of a "Hey, look at this mess I've made! Well, so long!"
Luckily John Ostrander got ahold of the character, who otherwise would have probably drifted into total obscurity.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Hey, yeah! Oracle was first used in Suicide Squad, wasn't she? I totally forgot!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

It's a good thing they did that, cos Oracle is a massively helpful character to have around in terms of plot device.

― Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

You think they let her in the JLA because she could sing?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

This issue - A CHIEF JUDGE DIES!! But then there'll be another along in a minute. When Hershey bites it, that'll be a slightly more significant change as it'll be THIS ISSUE ONE OF JUDGE DREDD'S MATES IS SHOT PROBABLY BY HIM again.

― Vic Fluro, Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

In a very special issue of New Teen Titans, Terra receives her visit from her Aunt Dotty...BUT IS IT JUST DEATHSTROKE THE TERMINATOR IN DRAG!?!?! WORLDS WILL LIVE!!!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

WORLDS WILL COLLIDE = Gar gets to 2nd base with Terra.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

Gwen Stacy.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 05:52 (twenty years ago)

Not for want of trying.

― Vic Fluro, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 06:45 (twenty years ago)

Batman: Officer Down!
Will Jim Gordon ever return to wonder wearily how Batman so silently slips out his office window?

I believe I've found a fix!
Gotham Central: Recharge!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

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