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We should do a bestest ever comics poll along the lines of the ILM ones.

Nominate 3 comics, vote on the final list, bish bosh.

I know there are only about 10 of us but there are plenty of voters.

We'd need to (night) thrash out what can be nominated - runs, single stories, entire series, newspaper strips, etc etc. I'm tempted to just say "Anything!"

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

It might be better to break it up into categories.

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

And call them the squiddies.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe but what?

- story (anything from single issue to Cerebus)
- ongoing series (not designed as single story)
- strip

...any others?

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

What differentiates a strip from the other two?

― Wooden (Wooden), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I was a bit harsh up there. I'm sure Tom isn't planning on including a "best ILC poster" section.

haha I remember the first year they had an award for best Comics website. I didn't see the point myself.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

That sounds good. Wasn't the ILM one just broken down into Albums and Singles? So this computes. Let's go.

xx-post

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:22 (twenty-one years ago)

strip = in a newspaper/other magazine.

. graphic novel.
. collection ?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

(I'm starting to remember why this wasn't fun)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

No it wouldnt be 'awards' or anything - it would be a poll.

GNs would count as "stories". Collections meaning...?

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

TPBs. I was still focussed on the yearly awards.

I'm still thinking up nitpicky questions, though. Is X-Men a series? Is X-Force the same story as X-Statix?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was fun. Honest! Also I'm genuinely interested in seeing what would win given the fairly small (and fairly low-consensus) nature of ILC at the moment.

Actually the thing to do is just have the three categories and then let punters interpret them as they will, with the organiser having final say.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it might be best to just let people pick any three things they want. For example, I'd most likely want to nominate a mini-series, an arc within a longer series, and the entireity of a long-running series.

― Wooden (Wooden), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

That might create vote-splitting though. i.e. if

The Dark Phoenix Saga
Claremont/Byrne Uncanny X-Men run
Uncanny X-Men

are all nominated.

Actually, sod it, that's for nominators and voters to worry about.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Although having said that I can see where the problem might arise; if someone picked an entire series and then another person picked an individual chunk of that series. Damn this medium and its multipule formats.

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― Wooden (Wooden), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I'll just go for Wooden's suggestion.

How many nominations each?

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

With so few people, probably just pointing out that it could be troublesome to nominate "the X-Men" when you really mostly liked "Morrison's New X-Men" is enough. But yeah, I think it could be interesting to see what people suggest if it's just "nominate X number of comics" with no strictures on what "comics" means. (And if the nominations turned out to be all crazy, I guess we could try again.)

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I reckon four or five nominations could be good seeing as there's so few of us. We'd all get to show off our eclecticism as well. Or not.

― Wooden (Wooden), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm leaning more to that. The only big problem I can see is anthology comics and strips within them but I guess that'll fall out in the voting process.

4 sounds about right.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

10 votes each?

We might get some ILE lurkers coming in too, remember. I'll advertise it on the Brown Wedge too.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Four sounds good to me. I'm sure everyone will do their best to avoid clashes in the nominations.

― Wooden (Wooden), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

bollocks, no one has nominated Dark Phoenix, have they?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

No.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone will (have to). I came pretty close to nominating the X-run from #108-#210 (covering the Byrne superb co-plottery & the underrated Paul Smith run, which lead "gracefully" into JR JR's run mid-issue), except that I can't vouch for what happened between Byrne leaving (#143) & Smith coming on board (#165). But, yeah - Magneto neutering the X-Men in the Savage Land, some Alfalfa Flight shenanigans, PROTEUS!, Dark Phoenix of course, WEN-DI-GO!, Days of Future Past, Kitty Pryde @ Christmas, Magneto w/ submarine nukes, THE BROOD!, Storm goes punk rock, Logan goes samurai, Madelyne Pryor & Mastermind, some decent one-off character issues (including a Juggernaut / Colossus barroom brawl!), KULAN GATH GUEST STAR ORGY, the X-folks return to NORAD, NIMROD, Rachel Summers goofery, The Trial of Magneto, MORE NIMROD, and then the beginning of the Mutant Massacre.

Yeah.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I still haven't come up with my list, so, um, taking bribes and all that.

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, I want to go reread the X-Men now.

I thought about nominating Dark Phoenix, but also thought about Li'l Abner, Pogo, Lone Wolf & Cub, Morrison's Animal Man, Defenders, Tomb of Dracula, Fables ...

― Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm all subjective and pop and stuff and all of my instincts are toward current stuff like Gotham Central and New Frontier. I think I will go with NF though, just because, it's, ahhhhhh, such a wonderful encapsulement of everything I've always loved about superhero comics.

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 19 October 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU CANNOT LEAVE OUT MUTANT MASSACRE OMG

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I had to cut bait somewhere! (Also, not so big a fan of MM.)

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 19 October 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

so wait - are we nominating here or what?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 02:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The ILC All Time Greatest Comics NOMINATIONS THREAD (Deadline: 31st October)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 07:05 (twenty-one years ago)

We definitely need a 2K4 awards thread / poll thing. The Krakatooms? The Mother Boxes? The No-Prizees? The Brown Wedgies? The Things That Dare Not Speak Their Namesies?

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

The ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZAXons?

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

The Giant Scorpions?

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

The Uatusis?

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Another vote for the Giant Scorpions. It seems only right to reference the greatest moment ever in comics.

― Vic Fluro, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll go w/ whatever, though I am still unconvinced of the power of the GIANT SCORPIONS (given I've never seen them). If some geeky rockabilly / surf group wants to run w/ the Uatusis as their name, beat my guest.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.2000adonline.com/functions/cover.php?choice=93&Comic=2000ad

Incidentally if anyone wanted to nominate a cover as the greatest comic of all time then they would be well within their rights. Just saying like.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 13:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I have seen the light. And THE TAIL!

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 20 October 2004 13:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Who will be the first to win a 'please-let-me-drownie'?

― Vic Fluro, Wednesday, 20 October 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

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