Transmetropolitan: C/D

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I enjoyed the first couple of books, but around the fifth or sixth collection I got bored. Hunt..., er, Spider takes drugs, Blair is not nice, there's a whole lot of technology around that doesn't seem to fit together, and I don't really care what happens next. Am I a fule?

― Ray (Ray), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

My post from the voting instructions thread:

It was a fine political satire, it was gonzo, it was snappily written and regularly offensive (and Darick Robinson!). It also had the ability to slow down and hit targets dead on (the issue about the revival, for instance) It's definitely in the top five Vertigo comics, I would have said.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

The issue about the revival was good, I'll grant you, but...
political satire? Nixon = bad, Blair = really bad
and wasn't all the gonzo second-hand? was Ellis really taking lots of drugs and taking political conventions while writing Transmet?
I am old and cranky, I know...

― Ray (Ray), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

The issue about the revival was good, I'll grant you, but...
political satire? Nixon = bad, Blair = really bad
and wasn't all the gonzo second-hand? was Ellis really taking lots of drugs and going to political conventions while writing Transmet?
I am old and cranky, I know...

― Ray (Ray), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

D'oh

― Ray (Ray), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Like you , Ray, I've got the first six or seven trades, which I really enjoyed, but for some reason am totally unmotivated to buy the others. Maybe it's because all the ones I've got are pretty much the same. I do think Ellis is a very clever (if often pretty superficial) writer.

― Wooden (Wooden), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

and wasn't all the gonzo second-hand? was Ellis really taking lots of drugs and going to political conventions while writing Transmet?

ILC Rockism Alert! :)

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm, what would be the Comics equivalent of Rockism? Spandexism? AlanMooreism? Post-DKism?

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Verisimilitudism?

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

A few years ago it would've been Vertigoism.

― Wooden (Wooden), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Mark Waid

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

GeoffJohnsism vs MarkWaidism? They're both sort of traditionalists, I guess, sort of the Bru-u-u-ces of their milieu. Alex Rossism, perhaps?

I think maybe this is why ILC works so well: there doesn't seem to be any snobbery or anything.

xpost!

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

What time period were you thinking of for Vertigo, Wooden? I don' consider it rockist, apart from Karen Berger.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

More like Gothism! Ha! I kill me!

― Huk-L, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Vertigo: The Seeker Years

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Probably when it had just launched and Sandman was still going strong. I very snobbishly refused to read anything but vertigo and Alan Moore stuff at the time.

― Wooden (Wooden), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

(And 2000 AD, which I was basically just buying out of habit by that point)

― Wooden (Wooden), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

For me a stereotypical r*ckist attitude is "mass-market entertainment from the past is amazing and full of value; mass-market entertainment from the present is generally poor and you should look to the niches instead". A stereotypical anti-r*ckist attitude is "wahey it's all good". The breadth of nominations for the ILC poll suggests we're closer to the latter, the poll itself I'll let you worry about yourself.

I only read one issue of Transmet but I thought it was rub.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 18 November 2004 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

i would have figured this thread to be longer

― kingfish da notorious teletabby (kingfish 2.0), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 07:00 (twenty years ago)

and more boring, like the comic

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 17:40 (twenty years ago)

"I think maybe this is why ILC works so well: there doesn't seem to be any snobbery or anything."

Yes, exactly. The general lack of any attitude is why I can read ILC all day long, whereas five minutes in ILM makes me want to go back in time and destroy the parents of the men who invented the internet.

And I've never read a panel of Transmetropolitan, but friends use to recommend it to me regularly back years ago.

― ample parking (Garrett Martin), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:03 (twenty years ago)

This is a gread ILC thread, it even mentions a poll.

― c(''c) (Leee), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:08 (twenty years ago)

urgh, used, obviously.

fast-typing due to boss fear, of course.

― ample parking (Garrett Martin), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 18:11 (twenty years ago)

The decompressed storytelling was a little grating. It's like Ellis knew that the snappy dialog and constant drinking/drugging/smashing things narrative was getting boring and tossed it all out the window -- and it took all the words off the page.

Has Ellis ever, ever addressed the blatant chronological error in the series? Without spoiling too much, something toward the end relies on pictures from a camera that Spider Jerusalem gives another character. The problem is that the camera was given after the photographed events took place in the series and the gift giving is not in any sort of flashback. I kind of wish he'd just say "oops" so I can let it drop.

― mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:12 (twenty years ago)

This is a gread ILC thread, it even mentions a poll.

Snob.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:19 (twenty years ago)

I can't handle Ellis! But (see above) I don't mean that in a snobby way. He's amusing to watch talk at comic-cons, but I get the feeling I was supposed to start reading him at a certain age (i.e. 17) and I missed the opportunity. And anyway, if some comics aren't meant for 17-year-olds, I don't know who they're supposed to be meant for.

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 22:28 (twenty years ago)

Transmet is a lot crapper the second time you read it.

― chap who would dare to be a stone cold thug (chap), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 22:38 (twenty years ago)

oh it's obv a total one-note book, but it's cute to wander thru at least once. I do wonder if Hunter S Thompson was ever shown the book.

― kingfish da last ubermensch (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 23 March 2006 00:04 (twenty years ago)

(insert "so bad he killed himself" joke here, please)

― The Yellow Kid, Thursday, 23 March 2006 06:16 (twenty years ago)

too easy a joke.

Still, I'm about halfway thru the series, and this thing reminds me of Bill Hicks CDs, or even V for Vendetta. twenty-odd pages of someone telling us how much we suck shit. I wonder what i would have thought of the book had it been out when I was 15.

Still, the dated bits are annoying. Yay! More ebola jokes!

― kingfish da last ubermensch (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 23 March 2006 07:00 (twenty years ago)

oh god, i just found the Fight Club ref

― kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Friday, 24 March 2006 02:45 (twenty years ago)

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