Why Bucky?

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Why is Bucky immune from resurrection?

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 31 March 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 31 March 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Ha clearly I am obsessed.

But yes it WOULD make the fanboys weep, and yes it would remove Cap's stick to beat himself with in terrible flashbacl scenes (good thing too) but why is this particular symbolic death (which was a retcon ANYWAY no?) *so* crucial when most aren't?

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 31 March 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

Because it's connected to real-life events, maybe? I can't think of any other heroes that died BECAUSE of a "real" war (even if the "real" war, in the MU, involved a guy whose head was, um, you know).

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 31 March 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

1900 numbers are real-life events, right?

― Huk-L, Thursday, 31 March 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

You mean "1-900 phone numbers", right?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 31 March 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

What else would I mean?

― Huk-L, Thursday, 31 March 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

I was thinking "years", for some reason. Who got whacked by a 1-900 number?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 31 March 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

If I'm being REALLY obtuse, then just wait a while, & I'll walk away.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 31 March 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

...

― Huk-L, Thursday, 31 March 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

OH FOR THE LOVE OF FUDGE I AM REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY AUGH

I voted to kill him, BTW.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 31 March 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I don't remember. I think I might've voted to keep him alive.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 31 March 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I was allowed to vote. Either because of being in Canada, or my mom didn't want me participating in such a grim mindfuck at age 11.

― Huk-L, Thursday, 31 March 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

Did YOU Kill Jason Todd?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 31 March 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

I strongly suspect that the as-yet-unidentified bad minion with the metal hand in Brubaker's current Cap run is going to turn out to be the resurrected Bucky.

Why you wan Bucky done gun?

― Flyboy (Flyboy), Friday, 1 April 2005 08:50 (twenty years ago)

There are, of course, plenty of other Golden Age super-characters who have never been revived, or who will never seriously mean anything to anyone ever again (eg these days it is v. hard to take a character called the Whizzer v. seriously at all) - and this despite all the 'good work' of Roy Necro Thomas

but yes, there's something strangely neurotic and kinky abt the way that dear dead Bucky, this 'pure' superboy who never grows up, is CONSTANTLY spoken of in Marvel comics, but never 'tampered' w/, turned evil, brought back to life, cloned - he's a bit of a golden child/lost king/peter pan etc figure i suppose

More pragmatically, Stan Lee was hep enuff to realise that Bucky+the whole kid sidekick thing wld seem hopelessly anachronistic within the marvel universe, where LEAD characters like Spiderman and the Human Torch were barely out of puberty themselves - plus, he had the slightly more 'with-it' Rick Jones character to play junior partner/civilian apprentice to Cap (before the Falcon), the Hulk/Banner, Captain Marvel, etc.

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Friday, 1 April 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...

DUM DUM DUM!

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33557

I haven't been following this, but as soon as I can get my mitts on the full run (or maybe I'll pick it up in trade), I will. But my completely ignorant guess is that they're bring Bucky back as a mysterious, morally ambiguous character who will torment Batman, er, Cap Am, as his worst failure comes back to haunt him!!!

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

But will he whack the crap out of the Red Skull w/ a missle casing?

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

So, um, do you think maybe both Red Hood and Winter Soldier (if this turns out to be what it's all about) are perhaps actually cribbing from The Incredibles?

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

As much as The Incredibles is cribbing from the good-guy-gone-bad trope, I guess.

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

Well, yeah. Everything that happens in The Incredibles is sorta straight outta the comic book style guide, and purposefully so, but these plots all seem very, very parallel. Though there's a very good chance the Red Hood business was at least green-lit before anyone would have even had a chance to see T.I.

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)

Except, of course, the kid/villain from The Incredibles was never presumed dead.
Probably this has been done a million times (without SuperSoldierSerum or pixie boots) on soap operas, too.

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

See also: Harry Chapin's "Cat's In The Cradle II: A REAL GOOD TIME"

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

For realz?

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

INFINITE CHAPINS

― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 11 May 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

Have we had a Brubaker/CapAm thread? I can't find it if we have.

I asked for and received the first five issues of Captain America in my file yesterday. That's some wicked awesome Brubaker goodness. I'm still a little uncomfortable about reading Captain America, being a Canadian and all (didn't he fight against us in the War of 1812?), but this is some hot espionage-tech-thriller sheilds-a-swinging coolness.

― Huk-L, Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

What you wan'
Bucky done gun

― The Ghost of M.I.A. (Dan Perry), Thursday, 19 May 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

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