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I'm in it again. It'll be in newsagents on Wednesday - Prog number is 1449. It's another one-pager...

― Vic Fluro, Sunday, 24 July 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

I feel quite bad about not buying it every week, I should be supporting the British comic industry really. Is there anything in it worth reading these days (apart from your no doubt admirable efforts)?

― chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Sunday, 24 July 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

Well, the prog after is 1450 and will be loaded down with new thrills, so after than your guess is as good as mine.

― Vic Fluro, Sunday, 24 July 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

My money is on more 3000-part stories.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 24 July 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

I'd say Shakara is probably the stand-out strip at the moment - usual good work from Henry Flint + a pleasing combination of bizarre characters and OTT violence. I also quite like the space opera shenanigans of Atavar, although it doesn't seem very highly regarded amongst the scrots. Apart from that it seems to've been mostly filler material recently...

The artwork on the current Dredd saga is just...odd. I mean, it's *okay*, but all the time I keep thinking "How much better would this be if Colin Macneal was doing it?" I suspect they may not actually kill off Dredd's niece.

Slaine still refuses to die. At the end of the most recent run I actually thought for a brief moment it was coming to an end, and the character was going to be quietly rested. But no! He's now gone off in search of his son, which presumably means another interminable three-year saga. Let it go, Pat, just let it go.

Caballistics Inc - no, this is good. It's just I can never remember what's happened from episode to episode.

Sinister Dexter - much improved since Abnett is finally doing something with the ongoing plot. If he puts things back exactly as they were at the end of this one, I'm going to be disappointed.

Bek & Kawl - still kind of...rubbish, unfortunately. Film parody, lame gags, paper-thin characters, etc. etc. It's a bit like the strip equivalent of "Bored Of The Rings". I can only assume Simon Spurrier writes this with his brain switched off, since everything else he does is pretty good.

Not sure what to expect from the upcoming new thrills, but I'm looking forward to Savage sorting out some DIRTY VOLGS in the coming weeks. You bunch of FUNKS!

― Philip Alderman (Phil A), Sunday, 24 July 2005 22:25 (twenty years ago)

Hold it hold it hold it - Dredd has a niece? What, is she Rico's daughter?

― chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Sunday, 24 July 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)

The original Rico's daughter. She's been around since 1978.

― Vic Fluro, Monday, 25 July 2005 06:24 (twenty years ago)

They should have brought back Citizen Snork instead.

(I fully expect a reply saying that they did)

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 25 July 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)

They did. But it was a while ago and mostly in the newspaper strip, which can be safely ignored.

― Vic Fluro, Monday, 25 July 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

It's been reviewed as 'grexnix' by one subscriber. The full review was 'Throwaway fluff. Incredibly silly.'

Obviously, I'm pleased as punch by this.

― Vic Fluro, Monday, 25 July 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

two months pass...

Motivated by the 2000AD characters showing up on the ILC Poll, where is the best (and available and cheapest, ahem) place to start for an American curious about all these mecharobotfutureshock-etcetera's that you Brits are babbling about???

― dave k, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)

Dave, find the fantastic ILC Top 60 thread. It has lots of pointers and buying info.

― rw, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)

The Best Comics Ever Sez ILC

― rw, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 23:10 (twenty years ago)

Though sorry it may be a pain going through it to find the 2000AD entries.

― rw, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)

I may be wrong here, but I think there are, so-called, 2000AD Collector's Editon TPs still in print. Complete runs and individual stories depending.

You could do worse than start there.

― steviespitfire (steviespitfire), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:26 (twenty years ago)

DC released a bunch of them - the good stuff is Dredd (although Judgement Day wasn't very), Strontium Dog, Rogue Trooper, Bad Company and Robo Hunter. Rebellion and Titan have also released plenty.

The price of a prog in US money is about $4.50 or so, so it's not that viable to get UK-printed stuff...

― Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

A lot of the really deranged early stuff is very hard to find, sadly, but there are CBR versions out there - I've seen Fiends Of The Eastern Front, quite a few Rogue Troopers, all of Zenith, Harry 20 On The High Rock, etc. No collection yet for that high watermark of madness Return To Armageddon tho.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)

Nemesis!

― chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:50 (twenty years ago)

How could I forget Nemesis?

Watch out for the DC Bad Company book - they've stretched the art Quality Comics style. You could probably find the original comics for a comparative price anyway and you'd get Sooner Or Later as well.

― Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

thanks for the help; perhaps i will begin by renting the sylvester stallone "judge dredd" film!

― dave k, Wednesday, 12 October 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

That would be the action of a grexnix.

― Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah, if you live anywhere that carries that 2000AD EXTREME title, the last two issues reprint the entirety of MELTDOWN MAN, a wonderfully deranged story about anthropomorphic animals and a guy from the SAS.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

Grud on a greenie, look what Rebellion are about to start putting out:

http://www.2000ad.org/thrillpower/rebdreddcase1.html

By my calculations, vol. 2 should consist of The Cursed Earth AND The Day the Law Died.

― chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

Fantastic! The first 2000AD Essential/Showcase volume!

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

They're doing it for a few other strips as well, check out the website:

http://www.2000ad.org/thrillpower/rebellion.html

― chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

On the Bad Company book:

"This edition contains all the essential episodes of the series, the forty episodes which follow Danny Franks' tale to its natural conclusion, and an apocryphal episode by Milligan, Ewins and several guest inkers done in a day at a comic convention for charity. Kano returned twice more to 2000 AD, in 1994 and 2002, but neither of those stories contained either the humanity or inhumanity of the original run, and would detract from Danny Franks' terrible story."

I like these guys, they seem to genuinely care about the material.

― chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Genuinely care enough to streeeeeeeetch it to fit.

― Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

An american editorial which name I can't remember now used to run like seven or eight monthlies reprinting 2000AD stuff, including Dredd, Slaine, Strontium Dog, Sam Slade, Rogue Trooper, etc. I bought like thirty issues of reprints on online stores like Mile High Comics;
some of these back-issues were pretty expensive (for example, Slaine) but other ones were amazingly cheap, among them there were a Bad Company ongoing (reprinting BC I and II) and a Zenith reprint not in his own series, but in an anthology named "2000AD showcase".

― iodine (iodine), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

Quality Comics and or Eagle Comics. Stretchy stretchy plus bad colour, BUT... the only place you could find 2000AD on the cheap in the USA.

― Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I was gonna say that. It was published in this horrible comic book format and a terrible coloring to make things worse. But hey, I had to read Zenith and Bad Company!

― iodine (iodine), Thursday, 13 October 2005 01:49 (twenty years ago)

Are there any decent Tooth runs in print in full-size anymore, or are they all in the DC shrinky/stretchy versions now?

― kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 13 October 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

The Rebellion ones have US comic dimensions, do they? That's a pity...

― chap who would dare to kill all the threads (chap), Thursday, 13 October 2005 12:23 (twenty years ago)

More that during Bad Company's run the comic changed dimensions from quite square to more A4-sized. The collected version seems to be stretching to fit rather than resizing with the original dimensions.

― Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Thursday, 13 October 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)

Nemesis the Warlock and Halo Jones are really, really essential, though the former gets a bit weaker after Kevin O'Neill is replaced by Bryan Talbot. I think I've read too much Judge Dredd ´cause I can't really remember which stories were good and which were crap - obviously there's a lot of both. The Caligula arc was fun, I think. What about Judge Anderson? Not surprisingly, I remember liking her as a teen, but I haven't read her comics ever since.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 14 October 2005 04:08 (twenty years ago)

Uniformly rubbish, I reckon. This thread is making me wonder if my mum chucked out the 4 boxes of 2000ADs in the cupboard under the stairs home in Edinburgh...

― Jacob (Jacob), Friday, 14 October 2005 06:33 (twenty years ago)

I don't want resized either, the art and esp. lettering (esp esp Tom Frame!) gets too pokey to read properly.

― kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 14 October 2005 07:49 (twenty years ago)

To be fair, I didn't have the original Bad Company in the bookshop to compare, but I definitely remember Kano's face being a lot fatter than that. I'm sure it won't spoil anyone's reading pleasure, unlike the Quality rubbishness.

― Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Friday, 14 October 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

I want Zenith (which ain't gonna happen, obviously). I don't have my old Titan copies any more, and they never collected Phase 4 iirc.

― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Friday, 14 October 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

why will it never be reprinted? copyright shite?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 14 October 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

Didn't Grant fall out with titan or something?

There actually was a print-run of a new printing of Zenith, perhaps about 4 years ago, when it was due to be released. I saw one in a Second-hand bookshop (obviously a review copy or some such) but was short on cash at the time and did not buy it, thinking that I'd get it when it came out properly.
Which obviously it never did.

I don't think I've ever been the same since, really..

― David N (David N.), Friday, 14 October 2005 22:56 (twenty years ago)

Grant actually owns (or owns a piece of) Zenith - when Titan did their new Phase 1 four years ago, he pointed this out, and rather than resolve the situation and work out how to divide the royalties between Morrison and Rebellion, they've just left the print run in a lockup.

― kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 14 October 2005 23:15 (twenty years ago)

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