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who's wearing them ?
who plans to ?
which brand ?
what kind ?

there are these ones that say 'd + g beachwear' that i've seen
and like, but could you honestly wear them *not* at the beach ?

a source of much pleasure when walking around the country =
the sight of us british in shorts.
beige shorts that have pockets in, well they always crack me up.
especially when they are laoded down with car keys, wallet,
filofax or equivalent etc and have buttons on. dead funny.

shorts then.

― piscesboy, Tuesday, 3 June 2003 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

i was thinking of buying a pair of those 'long shorts' that go down/up to your shins...but this is a VERY BAD IDEA

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 13:32 (twenty-two years ago)

who's wearing them ?

When am I not wearing them? In the summer months at least.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't wear shorts.
Maybe around the house, maybe. But the world doesn't need to see my legs.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't wear shorts in public. Not a stylish look. I'll rock the capris and cropped pants however.

― That Girl (thatgirl), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I wear black shorts alot on soccer pitches and in the house. But due to my lovely knee high sock tan line I don't wear them in public alot.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I never wear shorts. Men in shorts look silly. I think it has to do with the hair.

― NA. (Nick A.), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I found some olive twill shorts from Old Navy that didn't have 34 pockets or tie-strings or bungee cords dangling from them, so I bought them. I'd rather have Momus' though. (shorts that is AHEM)

― Aaron A., Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Momus, I find your hair more alarming than your outfit in that picture. What is going on there?

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

He's being Dumbledore to that kid's Harry Potter. Er.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

What is that, like the Dogme version?

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I was traumatized at an early age by Robert Sean Leonard's knobby legs poking out of his shorts in Swing Kids. Truly horrific. Therefore, shorts are the spawn of Satan!

― fiona (fiona), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Shorts in general are dud. Wear light linen trousers.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I wear shorts a lot in summertime, especially cuz trousers + my bike = MANY PAINFUL ACCIDENTS. I do wear those below-the-knee shorts kinda often too.

Sub-topic: Cut-offs...C/D? (I'm guessing most of y'all'll say dud, but psh whatevah I say classic!)

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

men in shorts need to be killed...i'm sorry but this is a jihad i will not back down on, infidels

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:57 (twenty-two years ago)

how do you feel about sarongs, dhotis and the like?

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

And anyway, what the hell else are we supposed to wear when we go swimming?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

swimming != walking around downtown blinding me with pale white hairy thighs!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll only wear shorts indoors. Jess is pretty much OTM.

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

swimming, you don't need shorts for that, nor anything else for that matter, (they will throw you from the public swimming baths if you adopt this plan)

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

america! pheel the phear! uber-short shorts on men are the fad in nyc!!!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:23 (twenty-two years ago)

what like hot pants?

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

:-O

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

YANC3Y STFU YOU ARE SUCH A LIAR.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:34 (twenty-two years ago)

i ain't lying! i've seen no less than five boyz sporting this look in the past week (when it ain't been raining) around soho. and at least two of them had grrlfriends!!!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I knew this whole 80s thing would get around to magnum p.i. eventually.

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

why you let flea post up on you like that yanc3y?

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Sheeeit. I broke Flea's ankles five times that day!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:47 (twenty-two years ago)

those shorts are simply used to smuggle plums.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

stinkyninja.com?

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Ralph Maccio is an ageless wonder!

― Aaron A., Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Who's the guy in the picture with Momus?

― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Please tell me Aaron didn't crosspostingly answer that question.

― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

jealous?

― Aaron A., Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

it's steve albini!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Fi: that's only cos you think pants in general are tools of evil!

i wear them sometimes. my only particular preferences are that a) they look okay on me, and b) they aren't white. that's all. sometimes they are necessary and even good.

that being said, this is the best i'll ever look in shorts:

http://kerfuffle.org/images/cute4.jpg

― janni (janni), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

awwww!

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

SHORTS ARE FOR SUCKAS.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate shorts. I wear long black slacks, shoes, and socks even when I am at the beach (which, admittedly, is fairly rare -- I was there this weekend and have a slim chance of going again this summer...).

― Chris P (Chris P), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate shorts. I hate shorts. I hate shorts. I hate shorts. Except for my really slutty sweatshorts from Lucky Jeans that make me look like a Sporty Spice-inspired prostitute. Those are great. Otherwise I have to be pretty damned hot to put on shorts--even in Arizona, I wore jeans.

― Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not sure I have any shorts and have no intention of buying any, which unfortunately deprives you of seeing my legs. Unless you ask nicely. I expect you'll cope.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

shorts are ok on girls

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't worn them in public since I was about 17. Well, unless I stop at the store after running/basketball/etc. They make me feel like a little kid and I have enough things to make me feel that way already.

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

They're just evil, evil I tell you.

― Nicole (Nicole), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Wearing anything other than shorts when mowing the lawn/doing yard-work = just plain wrong.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

this is true

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

men who wear shorts in public (noted exceptions) need to be killed, but men who wear cutoffs need to be killed slooowly.

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

There's nothing wrong with mowing your neighbor's lawn in your wife's best Sunday dress.

― chester (synkro), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Shorts are ok on hottt UPS delivery men.

― rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

ups guys are specifically why I had that 'if it's your uniform' exception. (although I really can't think of any other uniforms where the shorts work remotely as well)

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

I own one (that's 1) pair -- and they're cut-off black cargo pants that used to belong to my brother and are too big for me and end in the middle of my knee cap. I like them a bunch because they're all torn up and soft and stuff. Fuckin' hell, folks, it's too damn hot to wear pants in NYC in the summer. I've been thinking I need to ask my brother for more of his old pants.

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)

my favorite outfit used to be a black, red & white checked button up shirt and a "matching" black, red & white checked pair of jams.

("used to be" = b4 this thread)

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

that pic is adorable!

and pants ARE evil. the king of swaziland says so right here.

― fiona (fiona), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

"Used to be"? I bet it still is your favorite.

― rosemary (rosemary), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

who can say no to the king of Swaziland?

(as long as it's not the king of Swayzeland. because that would just be utterly terrifying.)

― janni (janni), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:36 (twenty-two years ago)

haha!

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

i'd rather see a girl wear shorts than the skirt-over-a-pair-of-jeans combo!

has anyone invented a short-skirt combo? (poss. name: skorts)

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

skorts already exist, my sister wore them in junior high

― Aaron A., Tuesday, 3 June 2003 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

It is piteous and wrong to see all this anti-short hatred from people who would rather feel their legs sweat, die and rot in hot weather rather than allow for a cool breeze to relief their calves in a hot afternoon.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

some people put society's concerns before their own

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

NED WEARS SHORTS! BURN HIM!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

now, now---Fi, i know there's at least one photo of one particular boy in shorts that you enjoy.

perhaps there are others.

perhaps Ned bucks this trend of boys not looking their best in shorts.

must we assume, now...? :)

i have to say, i'm generally in favour of comfort.

― janni (janni), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread is just shocking. What DO you wear in brutal 100degF heat? To wear jeans or pants in this climate is just absolutely paranoid.

― Aaron A., Tuesday, 3 June 2003 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

PUT ON A SKIRT!

― fiona (fiona), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

sarong, dhoti, lunghi, kameez, kurta, loincloth, toga

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I think wearing them all at once kind of misses the point.

― chester (synkro), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 21:13 (twenty-two years ago)

jeans motherfucker

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

(that sounds like a jon spencer b-side)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

khakis

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Jess put on your jeans and go play in the sunshine! It's a beautiful day!

― chester (synkro), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)

i just got home! i cant believe how nice out it is today.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.chawa.demon.co.uk/photos/benders/5th/goths.jpg

― Aaron A., Tuesday, 3 June 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Good lord, that looks like some people I used to know. Well not literally but all goths look the same anyway blablah...

― Trayce (trayce), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)

hot topic sells shorts! when i found this out i was crushed (nb: i am not a goth, i am nu-metal)

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

it has hard to go running in long pants.

but i wear shorts when it's warm or visiting tropical climes (which is more often). also, dickies ripped off at/below the knee is a nice look on guys and gals. never wear white socks with shorts though, i don't own a pair.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)

In 100+ weather (which we've had several days of) I wear: cropped pants, capris, loose jeans or skirts. And I do just fine.

That is all.

― That Girl (thatgirl), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)

in case it wasn't clear my anti-shorts agenda doesnt extend to the ladies

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

momus looks like an ugly jimmy sommerville.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Every summer I cut the legs off my long pants, but then when it gets cold again I don't have any pants to wear. I guess I could save the legs and reattach them.

― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 22:53 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't owned shorts for ages, and I also extend the ban to cropped pants/capris. Slacks or skirts, that all. I feel frumpy in shorts. Although if the situation was right (washing my car for instance) I might rock a pair of Daisy Dukes.

― teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

You fashion fools. Its cold here now so i've put the shorts away, but in summer i'd only wear long pants to work.

― gaz (gaz), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 23:11 (twenty-two years ago)

They made fun of my pale skinny legs when I wore shorts to school in the eighth grade, and that was the end of it for me - I have a pair that I'd theoretically wear if I was running/jogging, but I don't, so it's a moot pair

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)

cowed by the fashion police or peer group ridicule. for such a bunch of opinionated knowalls most of you seem pretty timid...

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:07 (twenty-two years ago)

i also don't go to the grocery store barefoot or in houseshoes. Does this make me timid, Gaz?

― That Girl (thatgirl), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)

civilised i 'spose. but shorts ain't pajamas.

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

down with shorts, up with skirts!

um.

― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:26 (twenty-two years ago)

amateurist there's nothing funny about mad magazine

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean, it's humorous and all.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)

shorts = classic when worn by justine frischmann as in the u.s video for mad dog.

― sand.y, Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I also hate shorts, but wait! I'm thinking about getting some to wear to the gym. When running sweat pants get a little too hot. And after seeing half the guys' bodies there, I'm not exactly embarassed about my legs. Or anything else.

― Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh yeah if I exercised I'd totally wear shorts but then we'd all be living in a CRAZEE WORLD now wouldn't we.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:33 (twenty-two years ago)

i'd rather see a girl wear shorts than the skirt-over-a-pair-of-jeans combo!

yanc3y you need to go back to fashion school!

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:33 (twenty-two years ago)

but skirt-over-jeans is a convenient dirty-hippie signifier! i don't know how i'd cope otherwise.

― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:34 (twenty-two years ago)

also dirty indie girl, it's kind of a gray area.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)

all the more reason to ask for pressed and pleated.

― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:45 (twenty-two years ago)

that's the dirtiest euphamism ever

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread has thrived even more in my absence.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Skirt + jeans is a filthy look and I hate it.

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:57 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, no top is pretty blatant

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:58 (twenty-two years ago)

i am flabbergasted. i had no idea there was so much short hate out there. i had been unselfconsciously wearing them never realising. i do have nice legs though...

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:59 (twenty-two years ago)

i saw a guy walking around in hawaiian shorts today

it almost earned a smidgen of affection

then i took control of the bus and gunned it towards him

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

No top is the only look I sport! Also I read "affection" as "erection" in your last post, jess.

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 01:02 (twenty-two years ago)

a smidgen of erection = the vagaries of antidepressants

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 01:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm suprised at the "shorts over pants = dirty indie/hippy chick" to you guys. In Melbourne, when it was the fashion (like 2 years ago in any case) it was all the yuppie fashionista cafe girls that wore such things. Skants indeed, pft.

The only time I'll wear shorts is my emerald green tight velvet hotpants over a pair of black fishnet stockings with some big boots. And thats for evening not daytime ;)

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 01:37 (twenty-two years ago)

the last last last pair of shorts I've owned was in college. Hour before my required gym class (welcome to small private school) it occurs to me I have nothing to run in. Campus bookstore, shorts w school name on em, US$17.

the indignity.

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 01:56 (twenty-two years ago)

probly more than that. $27.

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)

good lord.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 01:59 (twenty-two years ago)

You all are forgetting the little girl "shorts under skirt" look.

― Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)

while i do love the linen pants, and tend to wear lightweight wool to work during much of the summer, i am uninterested in your fashion rules when the temperature deviates.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 02:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't look particularly good in shorts or capris, but I wear them as soon as possible in the spring. However, IMHO they are not suitable for work or similarly "grownup" situations.

Toplessness for me? Not bloody likely considering how much top I have to cover.

As for sarongs, one night at my favorite club I saw a guy wearing one. It was a very fresh, casual look on him.

― j.lu (j.lu), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)

shut up you jerks shorts are good

― s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 04:00 (twenty-two years ago)

my post above was not intended to suggest approval of dirty hippie chicks wearing skirts over pants; quite the contrary. and the pressed and pleated comment was not meant as a euphemism! (for what jess? my imagination doesn't equal yours apparently.)

― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 04:02 (twenty-two years ago)

shorts controversy
more controversy

― rosemary (rosemary), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 04:24 (twenty-two years ago)

ah but it's all a question of the standard of yer legs.
see, they're my best feature give or take.
so out come the shorts one way or another.

i certainly wasn't expecting tyhe sheer *vitriol*
that's poured forth.

saw some calf length-ers ystrdy tha looked *fabuolus*.

― piscesboy, Wednesday, 4 June 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I have great legs, but I still don't really like shorts, they look silly if you ask me.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 13:42 (twenty-two years ago)

let's not forget these:

http://www.rmconnection.com/images/OK742.gif

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

There is an important distinction being missed here.

skirt over jeans = dirty hippie

nice skirt (pref. something light and silky, in soft colors, perhaps with a flower or diagonal striped pattern; def. above the knee) over nice (pref. black, though white is sometimes acceptable) pants = very nice

Christine the skorts issue was addressed above.

― chester (synkro), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm always in shorts in summer, generally baggy Nike ACG ones in a kidn of sand colour.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

white grrl wearing skirt over jeans = dirty hippie
asian grrl wearing skirt over jeans = fashonista

IT'S TRUE!!!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 14:03 (twenty-two years ago)

surely you have to be under 16 to wear a skirt over jeans, or indeed any other form of trousers.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 14:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Sandals are okay if they are tevas with white socks.
-- Mandee (Wolfshir...), April 14th, 2003.

* aghast *
-- Tracer Hand (tracerhan...), April 14th, 2003.

yeah the main problem I have with shorts is what to wear on my feet... I will not wear sandals, leather or synthetic, NO WAY... trainers with shorts is dubious, especially with socks. so i wear black "footie" socks (only come up to the lower ankle) and my chucks or pumas. looks sort of weird but that's the best I can think to do.

― Aaron A., Wednesday, 4 June 2003 14:26 (twenty-two years ago)

i know when i open my drawer of shorts, i try to match a hand bag to a particular pair.

let's face it, shorts are funny - that's why i wear shorts because i'm half being ironic and half to produce a summer vibe.

wearing shorts just isn't enough to achieve a summer vibe, though. i recommend laying out, preferably with a beach ball lingering close by. also, a good pair of ray bans never hurt.

yours,

jody sawyer

― Jody Sawyer, Wednesday, 4 June 2003 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

i feel like actually choosing your daily wardrobe to be "ironic" is going too far.

― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

You're fooling yourself if you think your current wardrobe wasn't chosen to be "ironic."

― NA. (Nick A.), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 15:34 (twenty-two years ago)

quoi?

― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

if you look ironic accidentally, you're in worse trouble. Or you're a saint, maybe.

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe you're amateurist!

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

ahh yancey you've been sudying!

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)

half asian, half white grrl wearing skirt over jeans = ?

― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

dirty fashionista

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 18:05 (twenty-two years ago)

the most desirable woman evah

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)

lifes too short.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Sometimes when I wear shorts I just wish I were wearing only a thong. But that's just what sort of girl I am!

― Eva Rodriguez, Wednesday, 4 June 2003 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

eight months pass...

do people who hate shorts hate their bodies?

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 12 February 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

no, they just think grown men in short pants look silly and Python-esque.

― Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 12 February 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i love my body, which is why I hate shorts. Unless you're wearing pinup shorty shorts with heels/wedges and a halter top, they make you look very unattractive.

― Viva La Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 12 February 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

shorts are good, but not with socks.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 12 February 2004 21:59 (twenty-one years ago)

you guys are kooky and puritanical... AND THAT'S A GOOD THING!

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 12 February 2004 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll be wearing shorts as much as possible again this summer. I love 'em.

― chris (chris), Thursday, 12 February 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

What Sam said. I like to wear shorts are just not flattering.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 13 February 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh.... that should be

I like to wear clothes I look good in, and shorts are just not flattering.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 13 February 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

And skorts!!! Those are million times grosser.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 13 February 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

haha skorts

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 13 February 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

add a bad perm and you have my sister, every summer, 6-12.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 13 February 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I really wish I had a picture of the wig caddy. We kept a pair of little shorts that belonged to my friend Pat nailed to the wall of this crazy house I lived in and it served as a holder for the wig I wore while doing housework. Looked funny with the curly locks overflowing out of the shorts.

― Bryan (Bryan), Friday, 13 February 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

What are skorts?!

― Broheems (diamond), Friday, 13 February 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

miniskirts with shorts sewn inside

― luna (luna.c), Friday, 13 February 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

more or less

― luna (luna.c), Friday, 13 February 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

hopefully less

― sorrry (Oops), Friday, 13 February 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

They look like skirts in the front and shorts in the back YUCK YUCK YUCK

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Friday, 13 February 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Well that's no fun.

― Broheems (diamond), Friday, 13 February 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

wait a minute, back the fuck up everybody

WHY WAS BRYAN WEARING A WIG WHILE DOING HOUSEWORK??

― Viva La Sam (thatgirl), Saturday, 14 February 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry spencer:

http://party.islife.org/div/worstalbumcovers/tino[1].jpg

― gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 14 February 2004 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)

???

http://party.islife.org/div/worstalbumcovers/tino[1].jpg

― gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 14 February 2004 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

copy/paste

― gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 14 February 2004 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

I wear short short I mean short shorts all the time, I have nice legs for a man and women tell me they love seeing them. I cut off jeans and make them a 2 inch inseam. I buy womens shorts to wear cause they are very short 1-3" inseams. I love em and I am not even gay. Just love shorts!!!!! I wish thats all there was to wear for everyone.

― Speeds Man (Speeds Man), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 06:15 (twenty-one years ago)

You're a real happy camper, aren't you?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 06:24 (twenty-one years ago)

shorts, boxers v briefs, speedos, sexy clothes...

Dude, we get it ok stop going on about your pervy dick-exposing shorts obsession! Man.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 06:28 (twenty-one years ago)

the lady doth protest too much, methinks

― Bryan B Sure (Bryan), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 06:29 (twenty-one years ago)

um, ;-)
sorry!

― Bryan B Sure (Bryan), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 06:35 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

The whole idea about shorts as something sinful and incorrect is coming from the fear to be taken as gay, because shorts are so revealing! And to mark a heterosexual point, people started dress in an opposite way.
If skimpy-and-sexy was now improperly homo, then what was properly hetero? How should this new culture of Hetero Separatism and Hetero Correctness express itself?

This conundrum had never existed before. In the days before Gay Identity Politics, there had been a naïve disregard for sexual orientation, a simplistic credo that maleness always meant heteroness. Sure, queers existed, but somewhere else, maybe in Greenwich Village or some offbeat locale like San Francisco. They were invisible; they were irrelevant. However males chose to look or behave or dress was, ipso facto, properly and appropriately heterosexual because, after all, what else could it be? Nothing can "look gay" when there's no gay way to look, no gay identity, no gay anything. Boys in Speedos? Hetero. Boys in short-shorts? Hetero. Only when gays asserted themselves to become a conspicuous and distinctive subpopulation, a distinctive demographic Other to the hetero Us, did a way of looking gay and dressing gay emerge.

Sports, due to Michael Jordan's early influence, were first to convert and transmogrify, basketball especially susceptible to this grotesque imperative of the thuggish, of the buffoonish. All other sports quickly and slavishly followed, an identical evolution from short to long, from tight to baggy. Soccer shorts and gym shorts, track shorts and tennis shorts and boxing trunks-all underwent this same transformation. Wrestling singlets also were lengthened to eliminate the inappropriate display of bare thighs.

We have the Christian Right, Jerry Falwell and his Moral Majority, Phyllis Schlafly and her Eagle Forum and other demagogues to thank for this development.

― Jonathan Levi, Sunday, 2 May 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

My shorts came out two weeks ago. I love wearing shorts. Does this mean I'm gay?

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 2 May 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

no, that would be your love of the cock

― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 2 May 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn straight.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 2 May 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

He, he. I liked that! I think this whole thing is an American proble. In Europe we don´t have this kind of problem, even if it is hard to see boys and girls in shorts that doesn´t go down to the feet. I will call it the Taliban fashion. What do you think?

Note: My shorts came out today it´s warm andnice, and it will be a hot summer in Stockholm, Sweden, Scandinavia, Europe.

― Jonathan Levi, Sunday, 2 May 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

it's nothing to do with homophobia you silly billy

― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 2 May 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

not in my case anyway. i just don't like my legs and figure most others wouldn't either.

― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 2 May 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone on ILX exercise?

― gygax! (gygax!), Sunday, 2 May 2004 15:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Football twice a week plus lots of walking. I'm still a stocky fucker wit a belly, though.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 2 May 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

the only good thing about the place i'm moving to is that i'll get free access to the complex's health club, which i plan to really make use of. this is a big deal because the last gym i belonged to was $63 a month and it's hella more expensive now.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 2 May 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone on ILX exercise?

I do a lot of walking -- and therefore I have no problem with my legs at all. Hurrah shorts!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 May 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i go to the gym 3-4x a week, i walk a LOT, and my apartment is five steep flights up so i count that as exercise as well.

― lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

well i mean, to keep the thread relevant at least, all of the folx on this thread who are so against shorts, i just don't understand it.

"hmm, 5 mile jog today and it's 75 out, how about an ankle length burqua...?"

― gygax! (gygax!), Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

if i jogged outdoors in shorts i might be arrested

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i did wear them to the gym, when i went

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 2 May 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i wear old navy cotton yoga pants at the gym. no shorts for me.

― lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 2 May 2004 18:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I just walked about six miles over two and a bit hours, listening to Orbital all the way. I was not wearing shorts.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 2 May 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't exercise (besides the half hour walk to get the mail) because I don't like the clothes you have to wear to do it. Shorts or sweats? Sports bras? Yuck.

Although those Old Navy yoga pants are okay.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Sunday, 2 May 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i do get the impression that ILX neglects the body.

xpost i hope you're joking

― oops (Oops), Sunday, 2 May 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I was not wearing shorts.

...or anything else?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 2 May 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Southall after listening to the Blue Album:

http://clampettstudio.com/images/opc/sept2003/04-85930-Porky.jpg

― Leeefuse 73 (Leee), Sunday, 2 May 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

Latest pic of Syd Barret

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~moz/pictures/poolsmil.png

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

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