The Reinforcin' O' The Stereotypes

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I remember some pretty stereotype ads as a kid - Calgon "Ancient Chinese Secret" in a laundry with girl wearing a Mandarin collar comes to mind - but mostly that stuff is dated and not okay. Does Cherry Clan still exist?

However, it seems that the Italians are the last folks it's okay to blatantly stereotype. Case in point: Olive Garden ads.

"There's two things my family loves: talking and eating!" And then it shows about thirty Italians laughing and passing around pasta to Uncle Luigi, who just became a citizen though he speaks no English. The family is straight out of central casting.

Am I alone in noticing this?

― andy, Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:03 (twenty-two years ago)

OH GOD THE CALGON ADS!!!!!!!!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:04 (twenty-two years ago)

No you are not alone.
The shit that's been bugging me of late is Dumb Lazy Man-Child contrasted by Smart On-the-Ball Wife. It's in sitcoms, movies, commercials, everywhere. Can't think of many examples right now, other than some commercial (actually it's probably a amalgam of a few commercials) where the wife--who is more or less functioning as a mom---tells Dumb Lazy Man-Child to do something, but he forgets and sits around all day watching TV. Luckily, The Product saved him from the wrath of his mom I mean wife.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)

TWO DEORDORANTS!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:11 (twenty-two years ago)

queer eye to thread!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Customer:
How do you get your shirts so clean, Mr. Lee?
Mr. Lee:
Ancient Chinese Secret!

Mrs. Lee:
My husband, some hot shot. Here's his ancient Chinese secret. Calgon. Calgon's two water softeners soften wash waters so detergents clean better, In hardest water, Calgon helps detergents get laundry up to 30% cleaner. [yelling] We need more Calgon!
Customer:
[to Mr. Lee] Ancient Chinese Secret, Huh?

Announcer:
Calgon helps detergents get laundry up to 30% cleaner.

― andy, Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:12 (twenty-two years ago)

then there's the case of jackie mason, who's made a living peddling borscht-belt cliches.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:12 (twenty-two years ago)

that Olive Garden ad where dude with the electric blue eyes says "It was PERFECT" with such alacrity scares the living shit out of me

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess all stereotypes are wrong, I don't know. Ones that are more or less positive (I know we had a thread recently on this) I kind of like in a way. I mean, I think that if the Chinese really DO have "ancient secrets" that's pretty cool actually. And if the Italians (I'm half Italian) are portrayed as laughing and eating and family-oriented, well so what. I like those kind of stereotypes. Different groups of people ARE different, after all, and just by virture of pointing them out isn't necessarily bad. Pointing something out can just mean, "hey look at that, that's different/interesting/cool, whatever..."

― Sean (Sean), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)

There is a dire lack of Mafia headbusting action in these commercials!

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, but Chinese wearing mandarin collars and working in a laundry? I live in a Chinese neighborhood, and they do run laundries and wear mandarin collars - it's absolutely true - but does that mean it's okay to put that in an ad?

― andy, Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh God, the Dolmio adverts in the UK are even fucking worse. "Ey-a mamma wassa tha matta with-a you-a" stereotyping, all Italian women are old and fat, all Italian men have massive Mario brothers moustaches... it really makes me fucking sick.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry, long day. But, yeah, the point remains.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)

The issue is NOT so much with showing a Chinese man in a mandarin collar working in a laundromat as much as it is EXCLUSIVELY showing Chinese men in mandarin collars working in laundromats.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Shaddup You Face

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha actually Super Mario Brothers may be the biggest offender mentioned

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Mario was based on a SPECIFIC person though, not a generalised type of people

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

But we also have those obnoxious ads for Barilla, which portray Italian men as shockingly handsome, great cooks, that love to help Wasp women out of a bind by secretly leaving a box of Barilla pasta on the window sill.

A VERY positive stereotype, with the blind opera guy bellowing in the background.

― andy, Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:29 (twenty-two years ago)

where the wife--who is more or less functioning as a mom---tells Dumb Lazy Man-Child to do something, but he forgets and sits around all day watching TV. Luckily, The Product saved him from the wrath of his mom I mean wife.

I'm struggling to think whats not true about this, based on 95% of men I've dated or shared a flat with. Seriously! Besides, arent those kind of ads (not that I agree with making men seem STUPID neccesarily) just redressing 30 years of dumb vacant happy housewife chugging valium and handing hubby pipe and slippers.

Go on, start yelling at me ;)

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I do all the washing up.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Trayce, I agree with Oops. I know how to *duuuh* operate a washing machine and *duuuh* change a nappy and even cook dinner *wow*. These ads are not only demeaning to men, but also to the women who, it implies, are really the ones who know how to cook, clean and wash up.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:35 (twenty-two years ago)

It's true that there are a lot of men who don't know how to do those things...

but it's also true that a lot of women don't, as well.

Negative stereotypes suck ass.

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:36 (twenty-two years ago)

i can do those things, but i don't feel like it ... and it's supposed to be women's work, anyway.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:40 (twenty-two years ago)

it's not only that the men don't know how to do stuff, it's that there too lazy/busy watching football to care.

(apt xpost)

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't watch much TV, and hardly ever sitcoms, but I can think of two shows off the top of my head that have a dumb lazy guy married to a smart taskmaster: King of Queens and Everybody Loves Raymond. I know there's others.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Home Improvement!

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:49 (twenty-two years ago)

The Simpsons!

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:49 (twenty-two years ago)

the White House

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't remember what kind of hot dog it was. I'll just use Bryan and Oscar Meyer as the example thought the commercial may have been for another type of hot dog.

It started with a close-up of a scrawny man, brown-headed and bearded, sitting in a brick apartment with a window behind him depicting a snowy city landscape. In the background, you can hear cars honking their horns. In front of him, a pitiful hot dog is put on a plate. He follows the mustard being squirted on with his hungry eyes.

ANNOUNCER: In Chicago, they eat Oscar Meyer...

Cut to a large and sweaty red-faced Richard Jewell type dude outside on a sunny day with a picnic behind him on the lush grass. He's trying to put an oversized plump and juicy hot dog down his throat, making slurpy noises all the while.

ANNOUNCER: But in The South, we eat BRYAN.

These ads ran during the eighties, and even as a kid, I was uncomfortable with them. Nevermind such weird things as a stereotypical Jew-lookin' fella eating a hot dog, but also things like an announcer boasting that in the South, we eat someone named Bryan.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Star Trek (Kirk married to Enterprise)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:51 (twenty-two years ago)

24!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Jack should get off his fat ass and stop doing smack! he's got a child to raise!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.coke-babies.com/writing/florida/florida5/skeletor.jpg

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Boy, I did love the Sambo's when I was a kid, though... pancakes. Mmmm. And you could make the placemat into a mask of Little Black Sambo.

Aunt Gemima and Uncle Ben should hook up.

― andy, Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I am disappointed nobody in Berkeley has shouted at me for wearing my Cleveland Indians shirt with Chief Wahoo on it.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Big Dumm Fat Man and Smart New and Improved Producting Using 40 kg Woman have become the standard product sellers.

Replacing such nice chubby male folks such as Bibendium, The A&W Great Root Bear and Grimace.
I point you to The Inactivist on a side note.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:56 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.c-els.com/products/03000005150b.jpg

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:58 (twenty-two years ago)

It's true that there are a lot of men who don't know how to do those things...
but it's also true that a lot of women don't, as well.

Agree totally. I was just pissing in the river so to speak anyway :) Ad stereotypes really grate. I guess an example I can relate to is the ads americans were subjected to in the 80s for "come visit australia" (or was it just sydney?) with Paul bleedin' Hogan saying he'd "chuck another shrimp on the barbie for ya".

WE DONT CALL THEM SHRIMPS, THEYRE PRAWNS. We also dont all live the jolly tanned fit outdoor on the harbour Sydney lifestyle - in fact only the very wealthy do. So like, raaarrr and so on.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:59 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.adage.com/century/graphics/icon_jemima.jpg

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 00:59 (twenty-two years ago)

http://val.kolpakov.com/toothpaste/Image002.jpg

― andy, Thursday, 8 January 2004 01:00 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.adage.com/century/graphics/icon_giant.jpg

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

i was waiting for someone (else) to find a "darkie toothpaste" picture.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 01:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Basically every CBS comedy is based on this premise.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 January 2004 01:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the "darkie is now darlie" logo - BUT THE PICTURES STILL THERE! My god.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 8 January 2004 01:04 (twenty-two years ago)

(MASSIV XPOST O GOD)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 January 2004 01:04 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.mulletjunky.com/webimages/fuctskull.jpg

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)

(casiotone for the painfully alone)

― kephm, Thursday, 8 January 2004 01:15 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.hispaniconline.com/a&e/images/speedy/done_pg_image.gif

― andy, Thursday, 8 January 2004 01:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Kia-Ora ads to thread

― Matt (Matt), Thursday, 8 January 2004 01:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Forget Italians. The last acceptable stereotype will always be:

http://www.eyetide.com/images/ec/4009.jpg

― may pang (maypang), Thursday, 8 January 2004 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Apu to thread.

― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 8 January 2004 01:32 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.tias.com/stores/jpc/pictures/b3601a.jpg

― swelle, Thursday, 8 January 2004 01:33 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.showcase.ca/trailerparkboys/images/about/cast/p_patrick_roach.jpg
Would fine Joe Dirt any weekend of the year.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 8 January 2004 01:37 (twenty-two years ago)

can someone please tell me more about the "kia-ora" ads?

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 8 January 2004 01:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, lest we forget the magical negro:

http://www.popmatters.com/film/reviews/l/images/legend-of-bagger-vance.jpg

― may pang (maypang), Thursday, 8 January 2004 01:57 (twenty-two years ago)

there were ads on the telly in england i think that had a couple of aussie blokes involved in some sort of violent car crash in the outback and they end up hanging upside down in a tree and one goes to the other "here, bruce...you can see the pub from here" or something.

it was great.

― mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 8 January 2004 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)

it's grasshopper!

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/HH/0672673/grasshopbig72dpi.jpg

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 02:01 (twenty-two years ago)

All the Fosters/Castlemaine XXXX etc ads ever are "Aussie blokes are dumb lazy sexists who care more about beer than life".

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 8 January 2004 02:02 (twenty-two years ago)

van morrison the orientalist:

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drc900/c967/c9673486ct3.jpg

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 02:04 (twenty-two years ago)

"who's getting footy-prints on my desert?!?"

http://yosemite-sam.net/Sam/Cartoons/Sahara-Hare-02.JPG

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 02:07 (twenty-two years ago)

By getting footprints all over the Sahara Desert, Bugs rouses the ire of Riff Raff Sam, bedsheeted bandit (riding on an un-whoable bump-backed camel), who chases Bugs into a nearby Foreign Legion outpost. It was nice to see the Daffy cameo at the end.

http://yosemite-sam.net/Sam/Cartoons/Pub-Sahara.GIF

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 02:08 (twenty-two years ago)

HASSAN CHOP!

http://www.alexross.com/CJ028.jpg

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 02:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyone remember the Frito Bandito? Damn, I wish I still had one of those up-the-nostrils fake mustaches.

― Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Thursday, 8 January 2004 02:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Or the "ring around the collar" commercials (which brand of soap was that anyway?), where it was the wife who hung her head in shame when people noticed the husband's dirty shirt.

― Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Thursday, 8 January 2004 02:42 (twenty-two years ago)

jim belushi to thread.

― yetimike (McGonigal), Thursday, 8 January 2004 02:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Who remembers this ad for XXXX beer:

Two diggers are loading a huge dusty truck on the outback, outside a dilapidated service station, with crate after crate of XXXX (four X)beer. One of them says something like, 'Maybe we should have a couple of bottles of sweet sherry for the shielas'. So they put two bottles of sweet sherry in the truck as well, at which point the truck collapses. There is a long pause. The men just look at the truck. Then one of the men says, 'Looks like we overdid it with the sherry, mate'. Then a voiceover says, "Australians wouldn't give a XXXX for anything else".

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 8 January 2004 02:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll say this much about rural Australian stereotypes -- a friend from the wilds outside Brisbane said she and another female friend were sitting around at a farm party when they were both in their late teens or something and a fella's chat up line to them, "So, fancy a root?"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:07 (twenty-two years ago)

How crass. In the city, we say, "I suppose a f***'s out of the question?"

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:34 (twenty-two years ago)

henry miller style

― mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh the culture of Queensland.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:38 (twenty-two years ago)

queensland should be taken out back and shot.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:39 (twenty-two years ago)

those chicks were probably lucky they even got asked first...

― mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:39 (twenty-two years ago)

just reinforcing the stereotype y'all.

― mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Wasn't it essentially a weird cryptoreligious police state up through the seventies? Like the Go-Betweens came from there because they had to get out immediately?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:40 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah. run by flo'n'joh. also recently responsible for pauline hanson.

― mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Shit yes. I have a friend who was in her 20s in Brisbane in the 80s, and all the time they'd have house parties that the police would raid, smash everything to pieces and arrest everyone, for no good reason. Joh Bjelke-Petersen was a nasty man and the police were run by a nasty corrupt thug.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:42 (twenty-two years ago)

i understand bris-vegas is now not so bad though?

― mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Possibly... Ive actually never been there so I don't know. I get the impression Brissy might be ok but regional QLD is still a narrow minded cesspit, 'least according to friends from Toowoomba, Cairns etc.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Joh Bjelke-Petersen

The hell? Was this guy the evil Scandinavian of Doom?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:45 (twenty-two years ago)

you know those old sunburned aussie guys look like they've been carved out of a particularly gnarly tree? imagine one of those only squatter. with a completely insane wife (who is somewhat similar to Dame Edna)

― mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)

And he's completely mental. He talks in circles and makes NO SENSE, a bit like Rowley Birkin QC :D Only not as amusing.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:48 (twenty-two years ago)

for some reason my wife took a job as a nanny at an outback qld cattle station in the eighties.

she still can't talk about it.

― mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)

is it a myth that joh complained about daylight saving cos the extra hour of daylight would fade the washing?

― mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:50 (twenty-two years ago)

His wife makes a great pumpkin scone. Apparently.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 8 January 2004 03:56 (twenty-two years ago)

"The greatest thing that would happen in the state and the nation is when we get rid of the media. Then we would live in peace and tranquility and no one would know anything."
- Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen -

― mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 8 January 2004 04:02 (twenty-two years ago)

But how could he tell people his views?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 January 2004 04:09 (twenty-two years ago)

There's still a Sambo's in Santa Barbara. It's a landmark, i think.

― ModJ (ModJ), Thursday, 8 January 2004 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Once, during a radio appearance and phone in, a listener asked Joh if he'd seen The Gillies Report (a popular sketch series on TV duirng the 80's which regularly lampooned him). He replied, "I've only skimmed it, but it's on my desk and I intend to read it thoroughly very soon".

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 8 January 2004 04:17 (twenty-two years ago)

There's still a Sambo's in Santa Barbara. It's a landmark, i think.

Ate there a number of times on trips up to my grandparents from San Diego, actually. Wasn't it the original Sambo's?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 January 2004 04:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Every ad for anything remotely french has a piano accordian in it.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Thursday, 8 January 2004 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

...yeah I think it may be, which is why I seem to remember it being a landmark...

― ModJ (ModJ), Thursday, 8 January 2004 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Hahah Colin =) I bet we could start a whole thread on daft Joh quotes, he's as bad as Dan Quayle.

― Trayce (trayce), Thursday, 8 January 2004 04:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Sure she's a black maid stereotype, but she's also the most powerful character of all in the stories, and she's the only one who gets the privilege to talk, and the things she says are Hi-larious.

Look at this and imagine her saying "THOMAS!"

http://mammytwoshoes.tripod.com/pictures/rockin.jpg

More-

http://mammytwoshoes.tripod.com/

― sucka (sucka), Thursday, 8 January 2004 04:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Goodfellas Pizza.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 8 January 2004 11:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Someone once told me that 'Six Million Dollar Man' was subtly anti-Semitic. A 'smart' spectacled dude named Goldman who sends out this quasi-robot shtarka to do the muscle work for his clandestine organisation.

― dave q, Thursday, 8 January 2004 11:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Bristol, where I was a student had a dodgy past - as a port in the west of England, much of its wealth came about as a result of the slave trade. There is to this day a Whiteladies Road and a Blackboy Hill. In Blackboy Hill there was, until it closed circa 1990 the BLACK BOY CAFE. This had a ludicrously offensive lit up sign outside of a dark skinned individual in a turban and dhoti with a wide-eyed grin on his face. His facial features were caricatures of African ones - huge lips and a giant broad nose. So not only was the sign racist, but they appeared to be unsure which racial group the character was supposed to belong to.

(it presumably closed coz everyone boycotted it, tho mebbe the food was lousy as well).

― MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 8 January 2004 11:50 (twenty-two years ago)

there are of course numerous pubs called the Black Boy (e.g. in west Green Road iirc) which presumably had dodgy signs outside, but the pictures have usually been replaced by ones of black horses.

― MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 8 January 2004 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)

how can they say that mammy-two shoes is racist? that's just dumb! would they rather have a white housekeeper's shoes shouting "THOMAS!" or what?!

― dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 8 January 2004 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

there are of course numerous pubs called the Black Boy (e.g. in west Green Road iirc) which presumably had dodgy signs outside, but the pictures have usually been replaced by ones of black horses.

Then of course there's the Colston Hall, whose name is a loving tribute to the profits of said slave trade. Massive Attack once pulled a show there for that reason.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 8 January 2004 12:53 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/06/elec04.s.mo.farmer.clinton.ap/index.html

― lawrence kansas (lawrence kansas), Thursday, 8 January 2004 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Should I be ashamed of saying my favorite cartoons of all time are the Tom & Jerry ones with Mammy-two-shoes, and it's a fuckin' crying shame and a crime against art that she's been censored off the tV?
Sure she's a black maid stereotype, but she's also the most powerful character of all in the stories, and she's the only one who gets the privilege to talk, and the things she says are Hi-larious.
Look at this and imagine her saying "THOMAS!"
You absoltuely MUST MUST MUST see the "revised version"!
Now all you see of her is the thin, graceful, milk-white legs of a June Cleaver-like honky chick....but they left the soundtrack exactly the same!
So now it's like Martha Stewart being brain-controlled by Big Mama Thornton!
"Whut? A partay? At MY HOUSE? Excuuuuuseee ME!"

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 8 January 2004 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

heckle and jeckle!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)

from the Mammy-two-shoes page:
This new "White Mammy" material was then cut into dupe negatives of the cartoons in question to replace the original "Black Mammy" footage. Voice actress June Foray was brought in to redub the soundtracks. (Incidentally, that voice is supposed to be Irish.) Instances where the "White Mammy" has a "Black Mammy" voice (or vice versa) is a result of carelessness. Picture and sound elements on film masters are stored separately. What happens is simply that someone isn't paying attention and matches a newer "White Mammy" picture element to the original "Black Mammy" sound element (or vice versa).

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

So now it's like Martha Stewart being brain-controlled by Big Mama Thornton!

i'm sorry, but this is the greatest thing i've heard all day. I just imagine her with her own sketch/variety show.

― Kingfishee (Kingfish), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

coen brothers to thread

http://www.slidepiece.net/pain.jpg

― kephm, Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.animationcelection.com/images/100303.jpg

They haven't changed Foghorn Leghorn yet, have they? His "Boy, I say, boy" schtick is probably vaguely reminiscent of the way white plantation owners would've spoken to their slaves. Somone's bound to get overly offended by this at some point or another.

― may pang (maypang), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

"aguely reminiscent"?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Re: Six Million Dollar Man
Was Steve Austin the Golem?

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

If they change Foghorn Leghorn they'll have to remove Fred Elliott from Coronation Street as well.

It's political correctness gone mad! {/ cliche}

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

kee-rist this might be my favorite thread of all time

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

"v"?

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 January 2004 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

as fer my bunch o' people, i can only think of 2: (a) Mike "Meathead" Stivic, who's really only a negative stereotype if yer a conservative Republican i guess; and (b) Wojciechowicz ("Wojo"), who actually kinda was a stereotypical dumb Polack (but who's gonna get too worked up about Wojo, fer crying out loud?)

i guess horshack may count, but he was sorta ethnically indeterminate, a generic blue-collar slavic sort (or jewish, but epstein was the jewish sweathog right?)

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

"Whut? A partay? At MY HOUSE? Excuuuuuseee ME!"

Haha! Mammy two-shoes looked like a maid, but she was master of the house.

In the 80's when I was a kid I wasn't allowed to watch racy TV at night (curse that Benny Hill) so I listened to old-time radio instead. Lillian Randolph, voice actress for Mammy, was on every night so she's kind of drilled into my brain as well. I bet she wasn't happy about being typecast as a wisecracking maid though.

― sucka (sucka), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/simpsons/images/quotes/wiggum.gif

http://sportsmed.starwave.com/media/pg2/2002/0328/photo/randyquaid_i.jpg

― sucka (sucka), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)

also, it helps not to reduce everything down to something so simplistic so that any possible stereotype becomes automatically racist...

― Kingfishee (Kingfish), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Popeye started out as a "dumb polack dockworker" stereotype.

http://tulsatvmemories.com/imag2001/popeye.jpg

"I'm one tough gazookas that hates all palookas that ain't on the up and square. I biffs 'em and buffs 'em and always out-roughs 'em and none of 'em gets nowhere. So keep good behavior, it's your one lifesaver, with Popeye the Sailor Man!"

― sucka (sucka), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

if Popeye is supposed to be Polish, that would be so COOL. yo, he kicks mad bluto ass!

― i yam what i yam (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Eis...Banacek was Polish.
http://www.emissions.ca/media/images/E1216-2002051616174841.jpg

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:28 (twenty-two years ago)

before my time, HM, but hey it's got George Peppard so that makes it cool too! and this description:

BANACEK is a Boston-based Polish/American freelance insurance investigator whom insurance companies turn to when their own investigations have failed. This doesn't exactly endear him to big shot insurance executive types, since calling in Banacek meant they hadn't done their jobs. And the more tight-assed and pompous the executives are, the more Banacek delights in rubbing their faces in it. But his track record's so good they have to put up with him. Banacek specializes in solving "impossible crimes", recovering such missing loot as an armored car or a professional football player who disappeared during a game. Urbane, suave, cocky, Banacek has a taste for the fine things in life, and an affinity for Polish proverbs. He lives in the ritzy Beacon Hill area, and is chauffered around town in his limo by his driver, Jay. Among his close friends is Felix Mulholland, owner of Mulholland's Rare Books & Prints, who often ends up doing research for Banacek. In the second season, Carlie Kirkland (Christine Belford), an insurance agent, was added for love interest. But, in her own way, Carlie was as infuriating as Banacek, and their rivalry definitely heated up the relationship.

talk about POSITIVE stereotyping!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

an aside: when TV shows have polish-american characters AT ALL, why are they set in cities that aren't exactly known for having large polish-american communities? like BOSTON? or even New York (outside of Greenpoint) -- though Meathead came from Chicago (which is Polack Central, of course).

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

it's technically before my time as well, but was in medium rotation during the golden era of A&E rerunning 70s mystery shows during the daytime. which happened to coincide with the golden era of me cutting class so I could smoke dope and watch 70s mystery shows.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

All the stereotypeness of these cartoons and ads and stuff is what gives them such an interesting character. They mimic genralizations of real people and things. Eliminate all the stereotypes used and things quickly become very boring and dull. I think the whole "All stereotypes are bad" approach is too PC.

― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the whole "All stereotypes are bad" approach is
too PC.

I think you're over-generalizing here.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Believeing stereotypes are accurate is the fault of the people looking at these ads or cartoons, it's not the fault of the people creating them.

― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

bullshit

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

For example, would you want all the simpson writers to take into consideration anyone that they could possibly offend and make all there characters as unoffensive as possible? People watching the Simpsons should know that there are going to be stereotypes used to make things more funny or interesting.

― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

okay I mean to some extent you're right, but I don't think it's an either/or type thing. If since the day you were born you were confronted with stereotyped images of a group and had little actual contact with said group, how would it be your fault for believing in them?

(xpost)

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Personally, I take anything that isn't a reliable or accurate source of cultural information as probably not very true (even if I'm constantly exposed to it), but I see what your saying some will effect my views of a culture. That's why it's good for people to try and get exposed to real multicultural things.

― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Interesting news column piece I found while searching about Lillian Randolph's career and racism.

"Finally, as promised last week, a few words about the differences
between three media pieces that have gotten heavy raps of recent times: "Amos 'n Andy," Laura Schlessinger's broadcast offerings and the D.W. Griffith landmark film _The Birth of a Nation_. Or, if you will, The Good, The Bad and The Ugly, in that order."

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BlacklistedTalkRadio/message/2490?source=1

― sucka (sucka), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Did anyone mention the Redskins, or Atlanta's Braves tomahawk crowd chant yet?

― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

for a minute there I thought it was decrying the spaghetti western The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.
spaghetti?

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 8 January 2004 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Indie Rock bands that are actually, generally happy

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Indie Rock bands that are actually, generally happy

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 8 January 2004 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

the day any true italian gets a hard salami over the fuckin olive garden....shoot me. If you put my fathers family in the olive garden youd' here nothing but "what the fuck is this shit? you call this gravy!"

― Chris V (Chris V), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

ditto for Irish people and McDonalds

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

(scottish?)

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:16 (twenty-two years ago)

(scottish would be MacDonalds)

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 9 January 2004 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

You people have not addressed the most important issue of them all (black people as robots)

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 9 January 2004 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, black people are always saying stuff like "Bleep bloop bleep bloop." Especially Timbaland.

― NA (Nick A.), Friday, 9 January 2004 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Bleep bleep bloop bleep bleep bleep! Bleep.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 9 January 2004 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Your search - "black robots" - did not match any documents.

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― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 9 January 2004 23:13 (twenty-two years ago)

"Black robot", on the other hand, produces Don King:

http://www.layouth.com/images/Robot.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 9 January 2004 23:15 (twenty-two years ago)

six years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80v5Wueed10

― but actually it is impossible to have a penis on the body of a mermaid (dyao), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 15:03 (sixteen years ago)

feelin the need to shave right now tbh, but I don't have any shaving cream? any suggestions?

― but actually it is impossible to have a penis on the body of a mermaid (dyao), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 15:04 (sixteen years ago)

buy some shaving cream

― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 15:05 (sixteen years ago)

(i can't shave without using cream, so that's genuine advice)

― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 15:05 (sixteen years ago)

haha here I admit that I have about as much ability to grow facial hair as a chia pet has the ability to grow genuine Kentucky bluegrass

― but actually it is impossible to have a penis on the body of a mermaid (dyao), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 15:07 (sixteen years ago)

but if I did need shaving cream, I know what I'd reach for first....

― but actually it is impossible to have a penis on the body of a mermaid (dyao), Wednesday, 10 March 2010 15:08 (sixteen years ago)

seven years pass...

I can't remember what kind of hot dog it was. I'll just use Bryan and Oscar Meyer as the example thought the commercial may have been for another type of hot dog.
It started with a close-up of a scrawny man, brown-headed and bearded, sitting in a brick apartment with a window behind him depicting a snowy city landscape. In the background, you can hear cars honking their horns. In front of him, a pitiful hot dog is put on a plate. He follows the mustard being squirted on with his hungry eyes.

ANNOUNCER: In Chicago, they eat Oscar Meyer...

ANNOUNCER: But in The South, we eat BRYAN.

These ads ran during the eighties, and even as a kid, I was uncomfortable with them. Nevermind such weird things as a stereotypical Jew-lookin' fella eating a hot dog, but also things like an announcer boasting that in the South, we eat someone named Bryan.

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, January 7, 2004 6:50 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

It only took 13 years, but I FINALLY FOUND THIS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lF5Tk-nqWuk

― pplains, Monday, 13 March 2017 21:19 (eight years ago)

Gotta say based on your description I didn't expect the Richard Jewell guy to be so, how shall I say, prissy with his mustard.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 March 2017 21:23 (eight years ago)

amazing

― Οὖτις, Monday, 13 March 2017 21:26 (eight years ago)

Wow! Like those big city Jews would be eating non-kosher trash dogs anyway.

― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2017 21:33 (eight years ago)

Totally had forgotten about the malnourished Shelly Duvall kid at the beginning.

About the only other Minneapolis/Buffalo connection I could make is Replacements/Goo Goo Dolls or something.

― pplains, Monday, 13 March 2017 21:42 (eight years ago)

do yankees / did yankees ever make commercials about how DOWN SOUTH YOU CAN'T GET THESE PICKLES Y'KNOW

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 00:16 (eight years ago)

"oh no sir, our cheese is not available in the former confederacy, but it's nice of you to ask"

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 00:17 (eight years ago)

Scrawny Opie kid in overalls trying to get his mouth around a pickle.

But in Hartsford, Connecticut...

Prescott Q. Winklevoss VI wipes down silver fork with gherkin on end of it.

― pplains, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 01:24 (eight years ago)

People in Alabama think beer comes in a can. But up here in Sam Adams country we know it's better from a bottle.

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 01:28 (eight years ago)

http://i.imgur.com/HGNAReS.jpg

― pplains, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 01:36 (eight years ago)

haha yeah i was gonna say the "get a rope" Pace Picante Sauce ad is basically the form that the Bryan's Hot Dog ad is clumsily groping towards with its goofus-and-gallant stereotype scenes.

― tales of a scorched-earth nothing (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 14 March 2017 01:55 (eight years ago)

Ben & Jerry's paying for a man to stand in front of a camera and shout "This ice cream is from DALLAS TEXAS?!?" in a Western New England English accent

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 02:33 (eight years ago)

"get a rope..." I mean, Yankees. Didn't all of your snack food commercials contain lynching humor too?

― pplains, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 02:48 (eight years ago)

I actually know this - the exact spot where the snow ends is just south of Eldon, Mo. on Hwy 54.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsrzzP0Bkro

― pplains, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 02:51 (eight years ago)

guess the city (weather patterns)

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, 14 March 2017 02:57 (eight years ago)

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