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heres the catch: you cant answer if you are from los angeles, ca!

― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

%#!$#!#$@!%!$!

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

classic because I need someplace to hate that isn't colorado

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Classic because i will be there next month for a few days before Coachella

― kephm, Tuesday, 16 March 2004 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

i like it.

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I wonder what Geir has to say.

― dean! (deangulberry), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 20:33 (twenty-two years ago)

heres the catch: you cant answer if you are from los angeles, ca

I was born in Laguna Beach and I live in Long Beach now, therefore I am excepted. And therefore: classic!

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm in New York, via norcal, so dud because you haven't anything approaching decent public transit, and you steal water. On the upside, I'm sure it's bright an sunshiney right now, as opposed to SNOWING IN MARCH.

― mouse, Tuesday, 16 March 2004 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to hate it, then I liked it alot... now I don't much care for it. Not the best place to build a city, really. It's pretty fun at night, though.

― andy, Tuesday, 16 March 2004 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I've only been there a few times, but from my limited amount of time there it was okay.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm in OC, I can say what I want. For the four years I actually lived there while attending UCLA -- oh, classic, easy. Still is.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

heres the catch: you cant answer if you are from los angeles, ca!

chaki, no one in the greater l.a. area will admit to being from los angeles unless they actually grew up in the city limits (like me, which is why I have been a good boy and not commented), which makes up only 30% of the greater area.

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't live in Los Angeles, CA, but it is a classic.

― dean! (deangulberry), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

well im born and raised valley and im still not answering! but i will comment and argue :)

― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)

In that case, I'm from San Jose - still, classic. I hate it, but classic.

― luna (luna.c), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:08 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, unless you grew up in the city of San Fernando, or Glendale, or Simi Valley or Hidden Hills, San Fernando Valley = Los Angeles city limits = you are not allowed to comment, Chaki.

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

(never mind that this is your thread and you can change the rules whenever you want like a Rick James bitchslap)

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I wonder what Geir has to say.
-- dean! (dea...), March 16th, 2004 12:33 PM.


Geir or me? =[

― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

geir will say the town lacks melody. and has too many mexicans.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

kinda sucks, but classic

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)

unlike Geir I hate melody and love Mexicans so L.A. is classic.

― Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I wonder what Geir has to say.
-- dean! (dea...), March 16th, 2004 12:33 PM.

Geir ^

― dean! (deangulberry), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I love LA. One of the best cities in the world.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

@d@m = http://www.srvfanclub.com/images/myphotos/newman.jpg

― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

you don't know how accurate that is

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:44 (twenty-two years ago)

If only you could hear me do that in my Randy Newman voice.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Destroy: the full page after full page ads for tripe like Kangaroo Jack every single sunday in the Calendar section, my lord did that bother me after a while.

["bbbbut Kangaroo Jack is awesome!"... yeah yeah yeah, talk to me a few years out of grad school guy)

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

not very fond of it though I like many people who live there.

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 21:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I miss my LA friends :(

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 22:05 (twenty-two years ago)

im from van nuys.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/sola2/00000905.jpg
graduation invitation


i://jpg1.lapl.org/pics28/00033929.jpg
van nuys blvd and calvert st. 1961

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics28/00033927.jpg
miss van nuys

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics26/00032848.jpg
city hall

― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)

born and raised in the city limits (i could walk to LAX), so i will hold back judgements

― JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)

(van nuys is part of L.A. city though... just like san pedro or north hollywood or pacoima or wilmington, etc. )


― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)

(../nitpick bitch )

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)

(Yo andrew, did you change the HTML tag parsing or something? I meant to add fake tags to show I was being nitpicky by adding a space after the "

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

GRRRRRRRR... by adding a space after the GREATER THAN sign, but it made it disappear. Why?)

― donut bitch (donut), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 22:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Andrew did actually have to reduce some of the tags available because a couple of days ago there was a spat of abuse from some poster who screwed with the coding via tags in the answer field. If there's a particular concern about this, the mod request board is the place to bring this up.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

was that the hack that closed the answer field or me adding background images?

― JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 22:35 (twenty-two years ago)

The former one.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 March 2004 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

hey db im not arguing with you! i agree sfv is part of la!

― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 00:51 (twenty-two years ago)

no worries chaki.. i just want to know why everyone can seemingly post tags as messages, and I can't.

― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 00:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I only thought about leaving when I lived there but have loved it ever since I left.

Classic = sheer magnitute, the ease with which you can lose yourslef in it (if you're into this kind of thing), the urban nihilism of a city that never forces you in any direction, towards any 'center', but simply lies there

Dud = always needing a designated driver

― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 08:53 (twenty-two years ago)

OTM. I was just discussing this with a coworker a minute ago.

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

TITO'S TACOS!!!!!!

― JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Tommy Burgers! Pink's Hotdogs!

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I believe the term may be "californication"

― Skottie, Wednesday, 17 March 2004 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

It smell really nice this week. All the night-blooming flowers just came into bloom. Well, at least in my neighborhood.

It's pretty classic, though I'd rather live in NYC.

I'm from Connecticut.

― Arthur (Arthur), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah the 101 looks better with the flowers.

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

just want to know why everyone can seemingly post tags as messages, and I can't.
Post brackets using:
& # 60
& # 62
(.. with no spaces)
<
>

― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

shouldn't there be a semi colon after those? >

― JaXoN (JasonD), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Dud = always needing a designated driver

Ditto. You have to have understanding mates that are willing to drive you everywhere, as nobody walks in L.A.. (Thought the line was just a useful rhyme til I went and saw for myself.)

With all the traffic, visible smog and scrunched up buildings, it looked just like NYC---without all the dogwalkers.

I did like it, but wouldn't live there.

― Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:35 (twenty-two years ago)

im not really sold on tito's, heard pink's was whack, but am a fan of tommy's. thats one of my favorite things about LA: for a city this fucking gigantic, theres a real lack of those crappy chain restaurants like chili's, etc

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

i like phillipe's (downtown) for the original french dip sandwich (it doesn't get enough props).

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)

(I don't really like Tito's, either)

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

xpost:

theres a real lack of those crappy chain restaurants like chili's, etc

no way dude, there are probably 10 chilis in metro LA.

xxpost:

Jax0n and i are the only tito's fans apparently.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

gygax/luna otm kisses for all

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:46 (twenty-two years ago)

oh i take it back f u gygax with your disease and titotaco

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

only 10?

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

This reminds me that Tito Jackson once came to my junior high on an impromptu visit. He used a megaphone to talk to the small group of 10 children that were less than 10 feet away.

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)

With all the traffic, visible smog and scrunched up buildings, it looked just like NYC---without all the dogwalkers.

?!?! LA looks nothing like NYC.

The premise of this thread is flawed - how can we really know it without living there? Do I love LA only because I'm a tourist?

(and Tito's didn't impress me much; maybe I ordered wrong)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)

The only Chilis I know of are in the valley or down by the airport... there aren't any around Beverly Hills/Hollywood... No TGI Friday's or any of those crapholes, either.

(I sort of miss them sometimes...)

Wtf is UP with fucking IHOP CLOSING in the Valley? IHOP isn't supposed to close!

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:51 (twenty-two years ago)

(tho all of a sudden I need a tamale)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I still like it.

― Antmusic78 (Antmusic78), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Now I want tamales, too.

Tito's, anyone?

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 20:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Wtf is UP with fucking IHOP CLOSING in the Valley? IHOP isn't supposed to close!

You have a hankering for those fresh frozen strawberries, don't ya?

― donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never understood all the Tito's Tacos love because Tito's is so clearly inferior to Yuca Taco on Hillhurst.

Repent Tito's fans! Repent!

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Clearly the answer is a taco FAP.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Pls. tell us that you have pictures of this Yuca Taco.

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

You have a hankering for those fresh frozen strawberries, don't ya?

No, but when I want pancakes at 3 am and I'm drunk and in the Valley, I want a goddamned IHOP - and you can't go BECAUSE THEY CLOSE! Isn't that against IHOP rules? It's crazy.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:15 (twenty-two years ago)

i like phillipe's (downtown) for the original french dip sandwich (it doesn't get enough props).

Agreed. Even though I eat there at least a couple times a month, it's still u & k LA food eating.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Pls. tell us that you have pictures of this Yuca Taco.

No, but I'll take some.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:18 (twenty-two years ago)

No, but when I want pancakes at 3 am and I'm drunk and in the Valley, I want a goddamned IHOP - and you can't go BECAUSE THEY CLOSE! Isn't that against IHOP rules? It's crazy.

Why on earth would you go to IHOP when you can get terrific 24 hour pancakes at Sittons on Magnolia in North Hollywood?

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Am I allowed to post to this thread yet?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Because no one told me about it! I really should ask you these questions more.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, there is food wisdom here. Maybe the answer is taco FAP/drinking FAP/late night 3 am goddammit-we're-hungry pancakes-please FAP.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Let's just go to Swingers, duh.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I fear with a name like that, sir.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)

LAFAT sounds like a sweet party.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Oooh Swingers!

Also, I am DYING to try Mission 261.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, I am DYING to try Mission 261.

OMG HFS WTF

so so good

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I was practically salivating just reading the review!

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Link?

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

My latest "must eat" food place is Wonton Time. Really really wonderful, especially if you're burned out on the standard noodle/ramen bowls. It's also open until midnight.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Misson 261 - the best dim sum in Southern California

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Last time I went, the air sent my allergies into maximum homerdrive for three days = DUD.

― O.Leee.B. (Leee), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks so much! I was just mentioning on the other LA thread that I wanted to eat dim sum this weekend ... kisses.

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

LAFAT sounds like a sweet party.

My version of LAFAT would go like this:

Yuca Taco on Hillhurst (flat out the best)

King Taco (various locations in the city, but I like the one on Cypress in Highland Park) - their tacos are pretty standard, but their salsa is spectacular - wonderful smoky flavor

Taco Baja Ensenada - the BEST fish taco in all of SoCal. Period. And their stingray tacos are pretty great too!

finally there's the taco stand on the corner of Vermont and Santa Monica Blvd. I can't remember the name of it, but it's pretty ad hoc with cut-open drums as grills. The tacos aren't gourmet, but they're wonderfully simple. Great place for late night eating.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)

How do you feel about Tacos Mexico?

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

If only LA weren't so frickin far away. (It's snowing again here today, muther$&*@#^.)

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

We shall have to bring LA to you, Jeanne!

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Elvis, I know that last place. And yes, you are 100% correct.

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 21:59 (twenty-two years ago)

How do you feel about Tacos Mexico?

Oh yeah, I forgot about that place. I've been to the one in East LA (Atlantic Ave.?) and it was pretty great - I've only been there once, I should go back...

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I frequent the one on Beverly, and I dig it, but I'm never sure if anyone else likes it, too.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned, did you ever go to that place that I recommended in Costa Mesa? I think it was Super Pollo or something like that.

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 17 March 2004 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

This story from a friend's blog illustrates why I don't want to live in LA.

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Thursday, 18 March 2004 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

That story is hilarious. I've seen Andy Dick eating calmly at Whole Foods and at Swingers a couple times. Why would that story put you off a whole city? Seems like harmless fun to me.

Also, for Dim Sum, go to Din Tai Fung which is AMAZING: http://www.laweekly.com/ink/01/46/counter-gold.php

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 March 2004 03:57 (twenty-two years ago)

it's just an excuse spencer.

la is freaky to me. and not in a good way.

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Thursday, 18 March 2004 04:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Ned, did you ever go to that place that I recommended in Costa Mesa? I think it was Super Pollo or something like that.

Didn't have the chance though I was in the area recently! Wanted to go to Side Street Cafe, actually. But I will remember.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 March 2004 04:05 (twenty-two years ago)

los angeles = classic, obv.

all this talk about food is puzzling to me, though. i think the food in LA is one of the WORST things about it. everything is either too dressy and expensive or just amazingly sketchy. also all the good restaurants are packed, always. also not very much open late. it seems to san diego's got LA beat in only two departments: 1) beaches are better, 2) food is better

we've got about a billion late night taco shops that you don't have to be afraid to eat at, lots of affordable low budget restaurants that you can get out of having had a great great meal for 8-15 dollars, and even the stylish chi-chi places are cheaper and you can actually get a table without reservations.

― vahid (vahid), Thursday, 18 March 2004 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)

i think the food in LA is one of the WORST things about it.

Er? You need to get around to other spots, m'friend!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 March 2004 04:07 (twenty-two years ago)

la blows

― ModJ (ModJ), Thursday, 18 March 2004 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

anti-Los Angeles snobbery = dud

San Diego does have a nice Puerto Rican restaurant and Costa Brava on Garnet is terrific, but it doesn't nearly have the breadth of food options that LA has.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 18 March 2004 08:55 (twenty-two years ago)

ask me again when i get there.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 18 March 2004 09:45 (twenty-two years ago)

are you coming?! you better hang out with me!

― Pablo Cruise (chaki), Thursday, 18 March 2004 10:13 (twenty-two years ago)

one day, and hell yes i'll hang with you.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 18 March 2004 10:16 (twenty-two years ago)

A Di/Chaki party would be a meeting of the gods.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 March 2004 13:21 (twenty-two years ago)

i want to come. :(

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Thursday, 18 March 2004 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I love this comment from Sam's friend's blog:

this was an interesting story, I live in Canada so I don't see famous people ever. I feel sad for Dick, very sad indeed.

did he have a small pecker?
Rocko | Email | Homepage | 03.17.04 - 10:55 am | #

I came this close to coming down to LA this weekend.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 18 March 2004 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Give into temptation some other time.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 March 2004 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...
http://www.bampfa.berkeley.edu/pfa_programs/la_plays/index.html

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 10 May 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

This looks great, but

*gulp*

do I really want to give Zabriskie Point another try?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 10 May 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

No.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 10 May 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

OK.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 11 May 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Well I'm not *from* LA and currently live in Long Beach so I say: CLASSIC

― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
How is the Museum Of Modern Art?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I get all jazzed about going back to LA and after about three days I end up screaming to leave. I really dig it for about 48 hrs, though.

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

How is the Museum Of Modern Art?

I think it's great.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

the Museum of Contemporary Art, you mean?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, there is the MOCA. It is alright at times. Like with any museum, it has spotty periods where you can see that they are interested mostly in making money as opposed to making serious statements in the art world. But it has been pretty good overall.

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I get all jazzed about going back to LA and after about three days I end up screaming to leave. I really dig it for about 48 hrs, though.

Curious.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

MOCA has housed the AWESOME Raymond Pettibon retrospective, a good Cy Twombly retro, but more importantly debuted the SUPERFLAT Japanese (Murakami, Aoshima, Nara, etc.) 90s commercial art showcase in the USA which was probably the highlight of the museum's last 5-10 years.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

What's on right now?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah - Art As Object

http://www.moca-la.org/museum/

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Classic. But I might be biased because I met Melrose Larry Green almost right away and he "is going to give me a record deal". I am also ignoring the fact that LA drivers don't seem to understand the concept of using blinkers before shifting lanes.

I also did quite a bit of walking.

― kephm, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Driving there is predictably brutal. Only Nice compares to it in my experience.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

MOCA commissioned a work by ILX's very own Momus!
http://www.moca.org/museum/exhibitiondetail.php?id=324

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

That man makes me laugh so much.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

it wasnt that brutal, its just a bit hard to shift across 4 lanes of traffic with little to no warning (no signs or exit/route signs the size of business cards) but i got used to it after a few days.

i also took a wrong turn and ended up on a street of homeless people living in tents on the edge of the street. we dont have this in boston, i was impressed.

i was also almost killed by a palm nut?? that fell out of a tree and almost crushed my head. everyone around me acted like it was normal. i am still a little baffled

― kephm, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Boston doesn't have homeless people? What happens to them?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

no. the homeless in boston sleep on benches and over ventilation grates. no homeless tents !

tell me about palm nuts? do they kill people often?

― kephm, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

You mean coconuts?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

that is what i thought it was, but i was informed it was a palm nut. mother of god ,i just realized this happened in vegas. but still, there were probally 50 or so people out by a pool and something comes crashing down from the sky and explodes and everyone is all normal.

― kephm, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

MOCA also had the Helter Skelter show, which many point to as their most important acheivement. I also love them for giving Paul McCarthy the entire Geffen Contemporary.

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

mother of god ,i just realized this happened in vegas. but still, there were probally 50 or so people out by a pool and something comes crashing down from the sky and explodes and everyone is all normal.

Maybe they were all to coked out and horny to care about the steady progress of Mother Nature.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I care, though. I'm pleased you survived.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 26 May 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

and a good day to you sir!

― kephm, Wednesday, 26 May 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha - the prodigal son returns! Only one month til I make my return to LA! I can't wait.

Does the Probe on Highland (Stigmata, Helter, Kontrol F) still exist?

― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Thursday, 27 May 2004 09:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Tell me about the Cat and the Fiddle; do you run into Morrissey there?

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going to be in LA for two consecutive weekends this month!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

HEY, ME TOO!

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

SEE YOU THERE!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

@d@ml, so you're in on the following weekend after Prince, on the 12th/13th? Let us plan.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, I'm there "on business" (hahahaha!) Fri 12th/Saturday 13th, but I'm considering staying an extra night. Schedule's going to be tight though. Though it is Dizzee/The Streets Saturday night and the England-France game on Sunday. Knowing what a big Anglophile Dean is, I might well bump in to him at one of those events.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I plan on being in China that weekend.

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that a strip club?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, a Dizzee/Streets double bill? HMMMM. What venue?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

The Streets w/ Dizzee US tour dates

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

The Wiltern eh? HMMM indeed! I think it's time for another LA FAP thread (but I'm about out the door so if someone wants to start that...)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I can start one, still not 100% I'll be able to stay that extra night yet.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Also REALLY need somewhere (expat pub, I guess) to watch that football match.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll investigate.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe you can watch it in Skinner's tour bus.

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

For the last Euro, I saw some of the games in an Irish pub in Santa Monica (on SM bd?)

― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, there are quite a few Irish bars in Santa Monica. Dunno if they have TVs or plan on showing soccer though.

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

tx!

I remember seeing an England-Poland game (for my 19th birthday!) at some messed up Irish place in Hollywood. The aircon was broken down and some electrics were sparking somewhere in the ceiling. That was several years ago though, so maybe it's not standing anymore.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The one I'm referring to was charging 20 bucks, though..

― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I think all the places in SF are charging that too....but this is ENGLAND V FRANCE! :)

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The Cat and Fiddle would be ideal for this.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll actually need tips too since I'll be in LA for the first week of July...

― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

i would try RAGE in w.hollywood

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Moustache will be good for the final..

― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Very funny, gygax.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

be sure to pronounce it french, like "Raj"

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Gygax! has a point. RAGE loves football.

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

are you a tight end or wide receiver?

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Stop giving away all your best lines on a public messageboard.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I first heard these terrible lines from the professor of an American Studies class at Berkeley!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 28 May 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

In office hours?

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 28 May 2004 17:01 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, no. Freshman seminar.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 28 May 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer do you know who Johnny Damon is?

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 28 May 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

What's all this about LA not having a football team when they have the Galaxy??

― Leee's a Simpson (Leee), Friday, 28 May 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer do you know who Johnny Damon is?

haha, no, but my hair is exactly like that right now.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 28 May 2004 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

HEY I DIDNT KNOW I STARTED THIS THREAD

― chaki_burger (chaki), Friday, 28 May 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

It was only a few months ago!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 28 May 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

SINCE ITS MINE THEN I CAN POST THIS HERE
http://i.myspace.com/32/97/657923/9973725_l.jpg

― chaki_burger (chaki), Friday, 28 May 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer, where were you when you had a Moz sighting? I searched the threads but I couldn't find where you said it...

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 29 May 2004 18:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Still CLASSIC!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 7 June 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Famous people seen during three days in LA: Prince (at the Staples Center), Cindy Crawford and family walking on the beach in Malibu, and...celebrity raconteur and bon vivant Spencer Chow!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 7 June 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Woohoo! :-)

Hey @d@ml, still planning on staying this weekend through til Sunday? Saturday early evening FAP planned, I'm about to start the thread.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 June 2004 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Oooooooh, I said to Spencer, but I'm glad you reminded me - I don't think I'm gonna be able to stay that extra night, so I doubt I will be able to FAP. :(

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 7 June 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, you're a punk. :-( But if you can somehow stretch it out a bit, post here! At least see if you can delay and get a flight later in the evening. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 June 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Nordicskrilla is the coolest guy ever! Also, I think he's the only SF ILXOR I've met (I know Colin Saunders from way back), I want to meet more of you all later this summer. Adam, I was thinking that next time you come down, we should surf!

also:
Spencer, where were you when you had a Moz sighting? I searched the threads but I couldn't find where you said it...

Ran into Morrissey at a margerita bar called El Carmen on 3rd (a couple blocks from my place). It's funny because the decor is all Mexican wrestlers and old Mexican movie posters. He seemed very much at home.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 7 June 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Nordicskrilla is the coolest guy ever!

Both he and his wife rank well up there. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 June 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh thinking of which -- @d@ml, if you and your wife are both free and would like to come and visit Carmel again the last weekend of this month, I'll be in town from Thursday through Sunday.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 June 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Adam, I was thinking that next time you come down, we should surf!

That would be awesome! It was great to meet you!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 7 June 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

if you and your wife are both free and would like to come and visit Carmel again the last weekend of this month, I'll be in town from Thursday through Sunday

Oh no! :(

It looks like I will be working that weekend, in Sacramento of all places. Any plans to come up to the Bay soon?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 7 June 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I am also sorry that i didn't get to meet Chaki - hope you enjoyed the aftershow, d00d - post about it here! Talk to me about how INCREDIBLE that Prince show was! ;)

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 7 June 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Wah, don't make me jealous (that said, the wedding I attended was utterly grand, so no complaints, really!)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 June 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=494&u=/ap/20040607/ap_en_tv/people_hasselhoff_5&printer=1

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 7 June 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

David NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 7 June 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

gygax, despite your sterling advice about these matters, I still managed to get lost in Oxnard AGAIN on the way back! ;)

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 7 June 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought of you.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 7 June 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Fondly.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 7 June 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude! How? Coming from PCH to 101?

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 7 June 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Yup.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 7 June 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, they messed up where the 1 turns into Oxnard BLVD.

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Monday, 7 June 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry, you should have asked DEANGULBERRY instead of me, I haven't been down that way in many moons although i do have a wedding in santa barbara in one month.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 7 June 2004 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for that, Spence.

Now, tell me about Book Soup.

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 7 June 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

It's great!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 7 June 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The West Hollywood Book Soup is pretty enjoyable. They need more space though because they have a lot to offer.

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Monday, 7 June 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
What is Sweetzer Avenue like?

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Great!

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

It's pretty decent. Are you planning on staying there?

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha, I wish. More of a drive-by. Is it hard finding a house there based on a light blue Porsche parked outside?

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

oh mary no

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Jaguar, rather.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

don't bring out the nipple again.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Sweetzer is a nice street. Not quite an "avenue", more like a street with the occasional traffic light. It's very similar to my street (ask Gareth), and then goes all the way up to Sunset and runs next to The Standard (lots of nightlife).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

if you know the cross street and the car is parked on the street, you should be able to find it. Mary, you're not in town are you?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it easy to find the very top of the street on top of a hill and next to Johhny Depp's house and will you take me there? North Sweetzer, I think, off of Sunset Boulevard. What is your street Spence?

X-post: Unofortunately not, nor do I have any plans of coming:( Just dreaming at the moment. I also watched In a Lonely Place last night, so am getting in the mood.

I don't know the cross street, unless it is Sunset Boulevard? (My L.A. geography is non-existent.)

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Who are we stalking now? MOZZA?

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I stayed just a few blocks from there recently. It's nice up there, near the bottom of Laurel Canyon.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm in between Sweetzer and La Jolla - Sweetzer is perfectly nice.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Luna's my neighbor!

― Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

(He seems to usually park his car on the street. Is it possible that a house in L.A. comes without a garage?)

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.morrissey-solo.com/pollBooth.pl?aid=-1&qid=205

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

many do.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

many homes in LA use the garage as storage/quasi-living space (ie, for other purposes than carstorage).

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

My last garage as such was used as a combination movie theater/recording studio/den.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish that I had a garage.

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Wednesday, 23 June 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

LA better be classic cos i'll be visiting before 2004 is through mutherf*ckers. i have to plan this around research and some lecturing but at present i'm looking at late october...

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 24 June 2004 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

that is, if anyone on this board remembers me. i'm the one who used to bang on about feminism and sleater-kinney all the time.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 24 June 2004 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it because the weather is so nice that it is not necessary to shelter your Jaguar?

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 24 June 2004 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Part of it, yes.

that is, if anyone on this board remembers me.

I DO I DO! And I am not alone!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 24 June 2004 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

ned! i can always count on you :-)

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 24 June 2004 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember you, but who's "Ned"?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 24 June 2004 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Only one week to go before I fly off to the sweet sweet shores of L.A!!

― Baaderoni (Fabfunk), Thursday, 24 June 2004 06:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Sea air adds character

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 24 June 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

It's time I visited LA again!

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Thursday, 24 June 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

¡It's great! ¡Muy bueno!

¡Hola, Di, I remember you.

I know exactly where Johnny Depp lives, Mary. My friend Scott used to stalk him. ¿So, Johnny's on one side and Nancy Sinatra's on the other? Wow, bitchen block.

Buenos Aires is lovely, all beefy and cheap, and the guys all look like Fab from the Strokes or Mark Ruffallo. Actually, my new friend Hernan the tango singer really does look a lot like Che Guevara. So I keep humming "Panic in Detroit" to myself. I miss speaking Eeenglaze, though. Yo no hablo Espanol and it's getting to be a drag. I fly back tonight.

So, anyway, LA, gotta love it.

― Arturo the Liberator, Thursday, 24 June 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I'm going to have a party once I move to my new place in L.A.

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 24 June 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

ill bring pabst. you bring your old roomate.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 24 June 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

arthur, tell me more about buenos aires! i wanna go!

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 24 June 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

ive been. it was alright. i went with my parents, however, so id say my experience was somewhat tainted.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 24 June 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll bring your roommate, but I must warn you, she's been tainted as well.

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 24 June 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

in the most literal sense

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 24 June 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I have not been tainted. That is a lie.

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Thursday, 24 June 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you want to be?

― St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Thursday, 24 June 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

your = my

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 24 June 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

OH, OK.

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Thursday, 24 June 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you want to be?

Keep your fleshy lips away from me, pls.

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Thursday, 24 June 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Bluh bluh bluh.

― St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Thursday, 24 June 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Fresh.

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Thursday, 24 June 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Shall we take this to the celebrities with herpes thread, gear? hmm?

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 24 June 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Arturo! So you shall deliver me to the North Sweetzer cul-de-sac? Alas, Nancy is not on the other side, she is a few streets away or something. Though in the documentary, when she walked into Mozzer's house she said, "Gorgeous, gorgeous, I had no idea there were such beautiful houses here!" ??? In Hollywood Hills?

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 24 June 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

If you're going to stay up around there or nearby. DEFINITELY stay here, it is essential and hilarious:

http://www.secretgardenbnb.com/

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Thursday, 24 June 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Ok wait...

Do you want to be?

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 24 June 2004 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

cindy, I´m on my way to the airport. I´ll be in NYC till Tuesday night, maybe we can get together and I´ll tell you all about it! Is there a Donut Bitch FAP in the works?

― Arturo the Liberator, Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and Mary, of course. When are you coming?

I wonder if Nancy was being a Beverly Hills snob. Cause the Moz Mansion is actually in West Hollywood, above the noise and traffic of the Sunset Strip.

― Arturo the Liberator, Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll totally go to the Moz mansion!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Arthur: let's hook something up over here:

New York Jun 24th to Jun 27th... HELP

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 24 June 2004 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Arturo, nooo, I'm going home for the weekend, darn it! I'm leaving Fri and coming back Mon, so if possible leave a space for me in your calendar . . .

I have no plans to come to your sacred land at the moment, though that may well change once new concert dates are announced . . . I do so want to see a show in Moz Angeles. Though I am afraid I will jump the gun and spend all my money going to Chicago and then once the really good dates are announnced I will be bereft.

The Moz Mansion is like, really small, by the way, unless he only lets photographers and filmmakers film a miniscule part of it. The poor boy's bedroom barely holds anything more than a double bed!

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 24 June 2004 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, it's not like he has any guests in there!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 24 June 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Boom shaka!

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 24 June 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh come on, there's a closet full of hookers and coke, you just don't ever see it in the photos.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Thursday, 24 June 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

looks a bit cozy, innit?

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 24 June 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Poor Stevie.

― deanomgwtf!!!p%3Fmsgid%3D4581997 (deangulberry), Thursday, 24 June 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

los dodgers = el dud

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 25 June 2004 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

My sister was in Los Angeles last weekend and she didn't even send me a postcard. She stayed at the Mondrian; how is that? Is the Sky Bar a place that one would be caught dead in?

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 26 June 2004 01:15 (twenty-one years ago)

The Mondrian is hilarious. It is like a Bowfinger-style parody of an LA hotel. The front of the hotel has a giant sculpture/door thing and it makes me laugh.

Always a big line to get into the Sky Bar, but I'm sure Spencer just glides in when he's "out on the Sunset Strip".

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Saturday, 26 June 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.feproductions.net/Pics/Misc/MondrianHotel/unknownhq1.jpg

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Saturday, 26 June 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

xtina!

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 26 June 2004 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

TASCHEN Warehouse Sale! 50-70% off!

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Saturday, 26 June 2004 02:05 (twenty-one years ago)

CHRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

― stockholm cindy (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 26 June 2004 02:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Guys, I move out there in 4 weeks and still don't have an apartment! HELP ME!

DRUNKEN X JEREMY! (not laura)

― Laura E (laurae55), Saturday, 26 June 2004 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Just play it cool, dude. This is California. Things will all work out fine.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Saturday, 26 June 2004 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Anyone have any recommendations on where or with who to get my hair cut? I don't have the time to drive to my lady in Berkeley anymore...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

who cut your hair in berkeley?

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

PANACHE on Telegraph. Oh...never mind.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

it varies.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

he was asking on for recommendations in LA! that place on telegraph is evil.

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

no it isn't.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

you have telegraph issues

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I understand

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

it sucks! go to the one on college where the students don't go. but this is about Spencer's hair. I'm going to guess that Jill @ BLOW cut his hair in Berkeley.

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

hurrrh hurrrhh

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I find it hard to believe that SPENCER CHOW does not know a quality men's hair salon in the city of Los Angeles!!!!!

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Has the world gone mad?

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

TASCHEN Warehouse Sale! 50-70% off!
-- tokyo rosemary (rosemarygilber...) (webmail), June 26th, 2004 8:05 PM. (rosemary) (link)

RAAAAAAAAAA! Is this over? :_(

― dean? (deangulberry), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

changing stylists is a fucking nightmare. I can understand not bothering to find a new one even though I'd moved.

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

"stylists"

― dean? (deangulberry), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

hahaha!

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

dean does not like "style"

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

he is a man of substance

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/32577142/?cslink=cs_boc_lw_2_1

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not against style but i am against "men" being prissy about their hair

― dean? (deangulberry), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm having mine done tomorrow.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

"done"

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

"men"

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

"hair"

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I think dean has calls us FAGS OMG

― kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

He would know.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

This Chinese woman at Claremont Hair Salon cut my hair (at College and Claremont). I'm confused as to where to go in L.A. Stylists are a total word of mouth thing, although my hair is so long at this point that I'm considering just doing a walk-in at some place on 3rd...

Also, I did have it done once at Panache by this sociology student - we talked Levi-Strauss while he gave me a pretty decent cut.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I have had a couple of decent cuts their. of course, my hair is quite long now too.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

OH SNAP! The girls bite back. You can chat about how evil I am, while you get your nails done.

― dean? (deangulberry), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

aaaagh I did the there/their thing!

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Dean you are a treat.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

If you're going to walk in on 3rd, try TABOO: The Forbidden Haircut*. Otherwise your choices are what, fantastic sam's, something called wonderful cuts (who nearly scalped my mom once) and the other place that I forget.


*Okay, the add on is mine, but it makes me laugh.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

You can go TEH RUDEYS where TEH HIPSTARS get cut.

― dean? (deangulberry), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I go to this Rudy's knockoff called Shorty's, in West H'Wood - I like my guy a lot.

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

ugh, Taboo wants $75. For some reason, I'm a cheapskate about haircuts. I might check out Rudy's or Shorty's. Morris, who's your guy?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Rudy's is only around $20, but I can't vouch for it. You may end up with a fashionably asymmetrical haircut though.

― dean? (deangulberry), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck taboo then. I'm sorry my only real recommendation was so lame.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

the hot little mexican firecracker i brought to the Red Lion FAP, Angela! she cuts my hair she kicks ass!

― Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

My guy is Kevin. Haircut is $16. Kevin does a good job on my hair (basic short cut) - and I'm really picky - I went through several rounds of the ask-on-craigslist thing when I moved here, and never found anyone good for any reasonable price. The salon prices are outrageous here.

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Shorty's is on Fairfax btw. Melrose and SM Blvd., west side of street. 323-656-3484.

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Luna, don't worry about it, I walked by there last night and meant to call them anyway. Morris, I may just give that a shot. Thanks for the tips tippers!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I went to the Cat & the Fiddle a couple weeks ago for after work happy hour and what the fuck happened to that place? You can't sit on the patio to smoke unless you order dinner, you can't sit in some places in the bar unless you order dinner, and we got stuck in some hole in the wall back room that smelled like bathroom air freshener because we dared question the server's authoritah because she sat us at a table for 6 when we said we had 12 and had a helluva time trying to get anyone to come back there to bring us drinks...

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Kevin is working til 8, I might stop by there after work today!

also, I went to Cat&Fiddle for dinner on a Tues and there was a 1 1/2 hour wait for two on the patio and then when we sat inside the service was a disaster. I guess it just means it's increasingly popular...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I am thinking of driving down for one day just to eat at the Little Door again...
*drool*

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Next time you might also want to consider A.O.C. down the street!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I DID look at that place. Too many restaurants!

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it was booked.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

To Live and Shave and Exfoliate and Get Your Hair and Nails Done in L.A.

― Joseph Pot (STINKOR™), Thursday, 5 August 2004 02:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I still go to the same person in Encino (Bridget @ the Allan Edwards on Ventura Blvd) I've been going to for years now.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 5 August 2004 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Los Angles-ers, I'm gonna need a lot of help starting next week. I've got a tentative apartment on Rosewood in Hancock Park, but beyond that I don't know shit about the city. I've never been, and I've got to get set up for the next couple years. Is there an Ikea in the area?

― x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Thursday, 5 August 2004 03:02 (twenty-one years ago)

There's one in Burbank.

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

ooooh... "bridget."

― Elle a chaud au cul (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 5 August 2004 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

There's one in Burbank.

Which is impossible to park at, busy during all hours, and is just a general pain in the ass to deal with. The one in Carson on Avalon Bl. is less intense.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 5 August 2004 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I second the one on Carson.

― dean? (deangulberry), Thursday, 5 August 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

LA = classic
King Taco = dud
El Carmen = classic
caring about where you get your haircut = dud

I went to a restaurant on Monday night called Koi (on La Cienaga)... anyone been?. Good sushi. Got a table right away (10 minutes is right away for me). But easily the most "LA/Hollywood" place I'd ever been to (I normally don't seek out these kind of places, so that's not saying much). There were even paparazzi out front! I would think this is definitely a place to take out-of-towners if they want to go to the stereotypical Hollywood restaurant, gawk at the beautiful people and maybe spot a celebrity.

― kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Thursday, 5 August 2004 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

This is why I shave my head.

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 5 August 2004 05:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I would think this is definitely a place to take out-of-towners if they want to go to the stereotypical Hollywood restaurant, gawk at the beautiful people and maybe spot a celebrity.

Enhh... I'd go for lunch at Musso And Franks instead and bask in some old-school Hollywood. The old forgotten celebrities are better anyway.

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Thursday, 5 August 2004 07:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Most people don't want old-school Hollywood. They want Brad Pitt! (And they can have him!)

― Elle a chaud au cul (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I luv Musso And Frank. I keep one of their cocktail stirrers by my bed!

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I should visit LA again sometime.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Thursday, 5 August 2004 12:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Next time you might also want to consider A.O.C. down the street!

Oooh! Just recently, I interviewed the head chef of that place!

― Psyched to be contributing to a thread about Los Angeles (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 5 August 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Come to SF, Leon Czolgosz!!

― AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I still have a check stub from Musso & Frank (it says "please pay waiter" and has the subtotal written on it).

― Elle a chaud au cul (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 5 August 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

yet another rad thing in l.a. i can't go to...


http://www.godblessamericana.com/slideshows.html

Beginning Saturday Night August 7th at the Egyptian Theater in Hollywood!

"The best kept secret in L.A. entertainment... a unique experience"
George Pennacchio - KABC-TV

"so entertaining we wish it would last forever" LA Weekly, Pick of the
Week

"the sun-kissed Soutern Californians seen here are clearly having the
times of their lives, and so are we" Los Angeles Times, Critic's Choice

CHARLES PHOENIX'S RETRO SLIDE SHOW TOUR OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

"It is the age of space and we have just landed in the most modern
metropolis on the planet..."

Celebrate how we lived, shopped, worked, played and partied in the 1940,
50s & 60s. Experience the ultimate era of car culture, suburbia, space age
style, fast food stands, shopping centers, bowling alleys and drive-ins
like you never have before. Visit the famous landmarks of Hollywood's
"golden era." and take a peek behind the scenes of one of the most famous
movies of all time. Tour Bunker Hill, downtown's Los Angeles's vanished
Victorian neighborhood, and visit Knott's Berry Farm, Marineland, and
Disneyland when they were new and much, much, more.

Saturday nights at 8pm and Sunday afternoons at 1pm

The Egyptian/American Cinematheque Theater
6712 Hollywood Blvd in Hollywood
one block east of Highland in the heart of historic Hollywood

Tickets $20

― Elle a chaud au cul (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 5 August 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Speaking of which -- who's going to see REPO MAN tonight at the Egyptian?

Special 20th Anniversary Screening – New 35mm Print! Discussion following with actors Olivia Barash, Sy Richardson, Del Zamora, Biff Yeager, Tracey Walter & Dick Rude.

Egad!

― morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 5 August 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

jealous
!!@!@

― Red Panda Sanskrit (ex machina), Thursday, 5 August 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

caring about where you get your haircut = dud

Well, I'm glad I asked - the cut is great, thanks to all for suggestions and especially morris pavilion for recommending Kevin at Shorty's. If I hadn't asked I probably would have ended up spending $100 bucks at some random salon for something that looks too metro for me.

Also, Koi is indeed good fun for star sightings (their ahi appetizer is good too) and is sort of walking distance for me. On random nights there I've seen The Osbornes (all of them), Anna Kournikova, Sting, Keith "Firestarter" Flint, Michelle Rodriguez, Jared Leto etc etc. The head chef just opened a new place on 3rd called Yi.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I definitely want to check out that Charles Phoenix slide show! Thanks for the info.....

― kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeremy, if you're gonna be on Rosewood, you're near me (and Spencer, for that matter) - it's a pretty good area.

I haven't been to Koi, but do any of you like Miyagi's on Sunset?

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I should visit LA again sometime.

Rah! :-)

Some sort of 'welcome Jeremy/Sunset Junction' Saturday the 21st FAP plan needs to kick in here.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Good sushi: Karen Sushi on Washington in Culver City. Also, no liquor license = BYOB.

― dean? (deangulberry), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, the Tamago is OOMASA downtown is TOO. DIE. FOR.

― dean? (deangulberry), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

("TOO" >>>> "TO")

― dean? (deangulberry), Thursday, 5 August 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I never even think of Miyagi's as a restaurant - it's really all about Sunset madness there. It of course used to be the Roxbury (as in 'Night at the...').

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 5 August 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, we don't really go there to eat

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, I actually go to Bar Marmont *alot*. It's so great to park at Virgin and just walk over without blowing $12+ at some valet.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Your search - blowing $12+ valet - did not match any documents.

>:-\

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Service with a smile, one hopes.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I believe I clearly state blowing at.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i think that's what eddie murphy and hugh grant said too.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

\/\/

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, some sort of get-together on the 21st would be excellent. I'll be arriving earlier, and might hit up some-a-yous for the virgin testing of the Weber grille I've got on order.

― x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Thursday, 5 August 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I want to go to Bar marmont!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, some sort of get-together on the 21st would be excellent. I'll be arriving earlier, and might hit up some-a-yous for the virgin testing of the Weber grille I've got on order.

Tempting! But that day is also the day of the Sunset Junction fest, which I think a few folks have mentioned wanting to attend, so this can also be an excuse to drag you out into the open air. ;-) That said, if you're offering to host a BBQ of some sort, I think you will find us happy to help.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 August 2004 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Save the exciting new grill for another day, as Sunset Junction features all kinds of amazing food!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 5 August 2004 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, does it? Then that settles the question.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 August 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll be back. Maybe soon.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 6 August 2004 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Sunset Junction is totally go, but it's looking like I'll arrive sometime around the 14th, pending approval of my credit rating on the apartment. So before then - an informal gathering at my unfurnished and vacant pad, so I don't feel incredibly lame and lonely upon arriving in LA.

― x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Friday, 6 August 2004 03:45 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
I may be in L.A. Nov. 11th and 12th for shows. I called the Secret Garden and they have a room available for $100 a night, hopefully I can find some other fans to go in with me. So, what is it like getting from the Secret Garden to the Universal Ampitheatre? How much would it cost by cab? Is it possible by public transportation? Also, Cat and Fiddle FAP? If I do this I will only be in Thurs and Fri, because there is a show Sat in Vegas... so probably no one will be available for the Moz mansion drive-by:( Can I walk there? XO Also, I have an extra ticket for the Thursday show if anyone is interested. Lastly, what it the deal with the pit at the UA? If I show up when doors open, will I be relegated to the back of the pit?

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 21 October 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

This site is a guide to using the Metro system to "Experience LA." These are the directions its robot provides from Secret Garden to Universal Amphitheatre.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

The 11th is a holiday and while I'm not going to the show (more's the pity) a FAP on that day sounds kinda fun!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Mary, did I recommend The Secret garden to you?

Be nice to Raymond and even nicer to his cats. Eat everything he gives you and don't bother him with dietary requirements or he gets upset. Tell him Adam and Sarah say hi (he never remembers us, but he always pretends to - such a professional!).

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 21 October 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

The beginning of that trip requires a brief walk. The end might require a longer one, I'm not sure - the directions (and station name) imply that the metro takes you to the door of the Amphitheatre's street address, but I'm not sure what the proximity is/obstacles are really like.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 October 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

actually, it may be a bit of a hike on the destination end

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 October 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, Adam you did recommend it, and thank you, it sounds great. Now, if I could only find another die-hard to go in with me. . . .

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 21 October 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

info about shuttles from the metro stop to Universal Citywalk, adjacent to the Amphitheatre

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 October 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

My best friend in high school was a big Smiths fan. When I last spoke to her, she was enthusiastic about Morrissey. She may be planning on going to this. Given Morrissey's Latino fan base (news to me, but according to experts here), it may be a good idea to arrive early. I'm sure Joy would know...

― youn, Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Im going, but I dont really have any concrete plans just yet..

― still bevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Aren't both shows sold out to hell and back by now?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

in the immortal words of my fellow new zealander pauly fuemana, i love LA. vegan restaurants!!!!! its warm even when its pissing down with rain!!!!! metal skool!!!!

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Hummers with 50" RIMS!!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't believe i was APPREHENSIVE about coming here, man.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus Los Angeles elderly Jews >>>>>>>> NYC elderly Jews

I have my own priorities.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know about in L.A., which might be its own special case, but the 2004 Neverending Quarry Overexpure Tour has been very slow to sell out, and tickets have been plentiful at least on ebay, often for below cost. I have a feeling it might be pretty rough in the pit, so I may just secede my barricade spot to someone a bit more hearty than me. Finding cheap tickets to LA/Vegas is not proving easy though.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Southwest LA->Vegas sale

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm gonna be down in LA the weekend of Nov 6th for my 10yr Highschool reunion. totally weirded out

― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

American's robot turns up a dozen flights departing the morning of the 11th and returning the night of the 14th for $230

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Mary, while you are here, you may want to visit the Getty, if you are stil applying to MLS programs. If you are interested in archival studies or in working for a museum or cultural institution, the Getty would be a great place to intern. You might also want to consider applying to the MIAS (moving image archive studies) program at UCLA, which would lead to careers in the film and television industry. (Sorry if it seems creepy that I remember this, but the thread on librarians caught my eye, even though I didn't contribute at the time.)

― youn, Thursday, 21 October 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

That's not creepy at all, thanks for remembering. Gabb, do you think its smart to go NYC-LA then roundtrip to Veg then LA-NYC? I have a place to stay with some people in Vegas, so it would be like $70 roundtrip for the shuttle.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 21 October 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

i just assume r-t's are usually cheaper, but not sure

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 October 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Gabbneb Mary's P.A.?

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 21 October 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, I would hire him! He's saved me about $100 so far.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 21 October 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Coming in late to this! Yeah, let's FAP!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 21 October 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Mary, my last day of teaching is the 10th, so let's do something!! I have to attend some daytime professional development thing on Friday the 12th, but I should be done by 2.

― Arthur (Arthur), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooer Arthur, perfect! Do you want to catch Mozzer? Also, L.A. peeps, do you think its okay to fly NYC-LA-Vegas-LA-NYC if its cheaper? I don't like to feel like I'm going backward, and I would only be flying back from Vegas to LA to catch the flight to NYC, but the other flights are not very reasonable. . . .

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

It's fine!

― luna (luna.c), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus Los Angeles elderly Jews >>>>>>>> NYC elderly Jews

they're both tremendously classic. and both cities are brilliant for jewish deli.

― paranoia is the hipster's disease (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Mary should see, if possible, Santa Monica, Union Station and the Pueblo, and the Ennis-Brown House.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

it's not going backwards. it's being bicoastal.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

It will be a toss up between being in the first row to gaze into those gelignite blue eyes, and seeing the other myriad charms that L.A. has to offer.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

the other myriad charms!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

It's looking that way. I can scuffle with the East Coast crowd, but I fear the West Coasters to be another kettle of fish. Besides, I hear the stage at UA is far from the audience's grasp anyway. . . .

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't been there in so long!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Would you like to change that Spencer. . . .?

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

the stage might be far away, but therein lies the challenge.

― still bevens (bscrubbins), Thursday, 21 October 2004 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, and the canals and Abbott-Kinney!

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 October 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Would you like to change that Spencer. . . .?

Hmm, possibly. How much is the ticket?

I just remembered that I saw The Smiths there in 1986!!! (I was 13!)

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 21 October 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I paid around 60 for it. I'd be willing to go lower if you were interested though.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 21 October 2004 22:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going to pass, but maybe you could list it on Craigslist, Los Angeles?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 21 October 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe, I just thought it might be nice to go with one of my ILX chums.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 21 October 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I tend to avoid big concerts unless it's someone I have to see (and I've seen the Moz several times and I love him of course, but it's enough for now). But I'm definitely down to hang out and FAP!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 21 October 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Yea, I don't like big concerts either! Cool, am excited to see everyone, assuming I can score nice plane tickets. . . .

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 22 October 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you tried America West? It's slightly ghetto, but supercheap. (Did we already discuss this?).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 22 October 2004 02:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha, I was just about to report back with my miraculous American West success story. No, I haven't discussed it, and I'm all about ghetto. I just can't decide whether I should take the afternoon flight to Vegas or the morning-get-in-line-with-the-mentalists flight.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 22 October 2004 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I might take a self-guided walking tour of Downtown LA. Would a walk down Fairfax to Melrose be a good idea? Or a hike up towards Runyon Canyon?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 22 October 2004 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

the latter, IMHO

― Remy (x Jeremy), Friday, 22 October 2004 05:36 (twenty-one years ago)

OK I threw caution to the wind and purchased my flight. I arrive around 11 am Thursday 11/11. I will have to be at the UA that night around 7 or whenever doors open. Morrissey usually finishes around 10.30 so would a FAP afterward be too late? Or, since that is a holiday, a FAP before? My Friday schedule will be about the same, and the I leave Sat. afternoon. I will be staying in Hollywood Hills, or is it Laurel Canyon(?), so any advice on nearby things to do would be greatly appreciated.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 22 October 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

FAP before on Thursday would work for me at least. On Friday, a FAP after could be fun. There are friends coming from the Midwest for the Friday show so I've been asked to help plan a get-together for them, perhaps there can be some joint celebration madness. Hmmm...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 22 October 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I fear it may be some time before I get to come back to LA...very sad! It was almost beginning to feel like a home away from home for me.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 October 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

> Would a walk down Fairfax to Melrose be a good idea?

i kind of miss LA, used to go there quite a bit and had a place to stay about 2 blocks north of melrose so i walked it quite a bit, mainly to Golden Apple. Cantor's is on Fairfax, you can watch Rodney eat 8)

also went to visit Bradbury Building on my birthday one year (it's on the walking tour but we drove). that guide's all well and good ('Behind its modest, mildly Romanesque exterior lies a magical light-filled Victorian court that rises almost 50 feet with open cage elevators, marble stairs and ornate iron railings.') but what it doesn't say is that you aren't allowed off the ground floor or security will shout at you (even though the security guard took us to the top in the lift, felt just like Deckard).

― koogs (koogs), Friday, 22 October 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

We could have a fap at the heinously awful city walk!

― still bevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 22 October 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU ARE A SICK FUCK, STILL.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 22 October 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Since my time is limited, may I suggest we FAP at one of the following Moz-related venues: Cat & Fiddle, El Carmen, Virgin Megastore, Gucci store, or Book Soup?

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 22 October 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Gucci store!

― adam. (nordicskilla), Friday, 22 October 2004 17:11 (twenty-one years ago)

also went to visit Bradbury Building on my birthday one year (it's on the walking tour but we drove). that guide's all well and good [...] but what it doesn't say is that you aren't allowed off the ground floor or security will shout at you

yeah, they shouted at me too, when i bounded up the stairs because my Grandmother was waiting outside in the car. that and the Library (not the Library Tower) are the only specified destinations I can vouch for, but I can vouch for both.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 22 October 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

My friend recomended this Super 8 in downtown L.A.

http://www.super8.com/Super8/control/Booking/property_info?propertyId=10525&brandInfo=SE

How is this location? Would I be able to walk places? I know its not as nice as the lovely Secret Garden, but it is cheaper...

Am I correct in thinking it is near Univ Amp?

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 23 October 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Am I correct in thinking it is near Univ Amp?

On that last point, if you mean walking, definitely not. Universal City is just on the other side of the Hollywood Hills in the Valley, but you're still some distance away regardless; instead you're located next to Dodger Stadium, practically. If you're planning on renting a car, you're fine in that you'd get right on the 101 and head north and you're there after a little bit. Alternately, you're not *that* far from Union Station at that motel (still far enough that you'd want to either cab or bus it over there, unless there's a nearer Metro Red Lines stop), and you can get to the Metro Red Line from there -- that would take you up into Hollywood near Sunset, as well as making the Universal City stop mentioned earlier.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 October 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, it just occurred to me that you should look into the location which Paul Kennedy used out here, which was the Holiday Inn Express near the Knitting Factory. (Unless someone's already mentioned that.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 October 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, here ya go:

http://www.ichotelsgroup.com/h/d/6c/1/en/hd/laxhd

Paul said it was quite all right, you're within walking distance of a number of things, and the Hollywood and Highland stop of the Metro Red Line is only a few blocks away. You might want to drop Paul a line directly to find out more, he said it was fine enough for what was needed.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 October 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The good thing about that Super 8 is that it's actually on Sunset Blvd and buses will be frequent both ways. It's also close to hipster bar Little Joy. I like the neighborhood, it's heavily Latino and ancient as far as L.A. goes.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 23 October 2004 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh dear, Ned has already (on aim) talked me out of that Super 8 and steered me to the Holiday Inn. What to do?

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 23 October 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

(Spencer are you on aim? If so can you aim me?

annafebruary)

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 23 October 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh, let me note that Spencer is extremely trustworthy in recommendations! And he's actually up there!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 October 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

The Holiday Inn is an excellent location from the standpoint of convenience, because it's closer to a metro stop than the others. You can also walk (half a mile to a mile) to the touristy part of Hollywood.

From Secret Garden, which is the nicest of these locations, probably, you can walk (a mile to mile and a half) to the Moz mansion, West Hollywood, the touristy part of Hollywood, and Melrose (shopping). And there's the bus, noted above, to the metro. And you're not far from Sunset.

From Super 8, you can walk (3/4 of a mile at least) to Downtown and the Civic Center and East L.A. I don't know much about buses, but if they run along Sunset, I assume they'll take you to downtown, Hollywood and West Hollywood

Here are some other options in Hollywood:

the Best Western Hollywood Hills, on Franklin Street within 2 blocks of Hollywood and Vine (home to a rail stop on the line that goes to UnivAmph), and in the heart of the touristy section of Hollywood.

The Beverly Laurel Motor Hotel - at Beverly Boulevard and Crescent Heights Boulevard in Southwest Hollywood. Don't know if there are buses to the rail system here. It's near a nice gallery and a block from a Spencer Chow-favored cafe and walkable to Melrose (shopping) and (a ways) West Hollywood. The Moz mansion would be a very long walk.

Both of the above are home to current or former hipster coffee shops featured in, or name-checking, Swingers.

The Magic Castle Hotel is near the Holiday Inn noted above - further away from the metro, but, I'm guessing, in a nice location.

And a couple in downtown/Koreatown/Mid-Wilshire (?)...

The Kawada Hotel, a short walk from Downtown and the Civic Center. It's probably a little deserted around here at night, but the rail stop is only three blocks away.

The Park Plaza hotel, on Macarthur Park, between Downtown and Koreatown. I'm not sure this is that safe an area - LA people? - but the metro is right there.

Hotel Chancellor - in Koreatown (Mid-Wilshire?), and right next door to a metro stop. Popular with Japanese travelers.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 23 October 2004 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

It's near a nice gallery

...area, that should be. And, I think.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 23 October 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

You can get to the Metro from the Beverly Laurel in fashion similar to that from the Secret Garden.

I omitted that, from there, you can also walk (a ways) to the Miracle Mile stretch of Wilshire, home to some beautiful old commercial buildings and the Los Angeles County Museum of Art (LACMA).

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 23 October 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Gabbneb is a font of OTM. I'm thinking that the BnB would be the most Moz place to stay, if you can afford it. It's also close to Bar Marmont, which is a consistently excellent place to have cocktails. You could also walk over to the Standard on Sunset and have a drink poolside with that great view.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 23 October 2004 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, it appears I have come full circle and am back at the B and B. Any nearby nice, cheapish coffee shops and/or restaurants I should check out?

Spencer, I asked you if we should get a drink at the Chateau Marmont, but perhaps we should get a drink at El Carmen instead?

And I forgot, that The Palms is on my tour.

I have one Strip-free day. Where should I go? East L.A? The "trendy" Silver Lake?

Also, (cheapsih) Mexican restaurant recs, anywhere in L.A.?

Is Juanito's Tamales in East L.A. a good bet?

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 23 October 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

The neighborhoods, briefly...

"downtown," as used above, is specifically the historic core of the city, and a more general area. The specific part is where LA was founded by the Spanish, with a small, pleasant tourist-y area of old buildings and taco and tchotchke vendors.

Close by, also part of downtown writ large, are the Civic Center (performing arts, good architecture) and the Financial district (tall office buildings and hotels, the public library, older, nice commercial buildings).

Hollywood is a large strip west of Downtown that refers to the wilderness-y hills that are home to the stars but is used here to refer to the foothills and flatlands that rise up towards them from the South. To the South of Hollywood is a large strip I'll call Midtown. These two areas are traversed East-West by Boulevards. They are, from North-higher-up to South-lower-down: Hollywood, Sunset, Santa Monica, Melrose, (now in Midtown) Beverly, and Wilshire. The tourist-y section of Hollywood - the Walk of Fame, the Wax Museum, Capitol Records - is in its North-Center, along Hollywood Boulevard between Highland and Vine. Dunno how alive this area is at night. Universal Amphitheatre is to the Northwest, up in the hills. The cool area of Hollywood is a separate city, West Hollywood, the heart of which is 2 miles plus to the Southwest of the touristy section. This is where the famous bars, clubs and restaurants are, and this is where Sunset Boulevard is the Sunset Strip (the key street along with Santa Monica). Secret Garden is sort of on the border between Hollywood and West Hollywood. To the South of both of these areas, and especially towards the West, is a good shopping area, concentrated around Melrose. Fred Segal is at Melrose and Crescent Heights. Continuing South towards Beverly, you get artsier and more residential. Further to the South around Wilshire, and especially to the West, is an older (somewhat decayed, but somewhat revitalized) commercial area. Koreatown and other immigrant-heavy areas are to the East on Wilshire, between here and Downtown.

The ACCESS guide to LA (Richard Saul Wurman) will make the geography clearer.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 24 October 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Rah for Gabbneb and Spencer both! This will all be useful for some friends of mine in general.

I'm still up for the idea of a late afternoon/early evening FAP on Thursday and/or something in the evening on Friday, but whatever works.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 October 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I have one Strip-free day. Where should I go? East L.A? The "trendy" Silver Lake?

I think a tourist should see Hollywood and the hills (already taken care of), Santa Monica and/or Venice and the beach, downtown and/or East L.A., and perhaps one or more of the Wright/Neutra/Schindler houses concentrated around Silver Lake or in the hills to the North. The metro stop at Vermont/Sunset gets you closest to those. Wright's Hollyhock (Aline Barnsdall) House is in Barnsdall Park near there, but it's closed, apparently. The Ennis-Brown house is up in the hills off Vermont on Glendower (theoretically walkable, but long and uphill and not that pedestrian-friendly). From inside you can see Neutra's Lovell House, I think. Silver Lake begins near that metro stop to the East, yes? I guess the Super 8 is sort of at its Southwest border?

The Big Blue Bus will take you to Santa Monica from Union Station (Line 10) or Pershing Square (Line 7). From Santa Monica, it can take you to Venice (Lines 1-3) and/or UCLA/Westwood (Lines 1-3, 8).

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 24 October 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i think there are some neat houses around spaceland in silverlake. the best thing would be for j0hn to come back and play at a decent hour.

― youn, Sunday, 24 October 2004 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe I should stay at this Chaki-recommended hotel instead:

http://www.motel6.com/reservations/motel_detail.asp?MotelId=4044

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 24 October 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

hooEureka

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― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 24 October 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

As in that's the site of Yer Icon?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 October 2004 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I believe so. Some one posted a pic of themselves in front of "****" so assuming ***** is the Street . . .

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 24 October 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

The good thing about that Super 8 is that it's actually on Sunset Blvd and buses will be frequent both ways. It's also close to hipster bar Little Joy. I like the neighborhood, it's heavily Latino and ancient as far as L.A. goes.

Is this Echo Park? The L.A. neighborhoods have the best names.

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd like to come visit Jeremy sometime. When is airfare cheap?

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Now, see Gabbnab advice upthread, roundtrip at 220.

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I assume jon will not miss coming up to see gygax and myself for noize drinx in SF.

― adam. (nordicskilla), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

LIMITED BUDGET

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Monday, 25 October 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

the Best Western Hollywood Hills, on Franklin Street within 2 blocks of Hollywood and Vine (home to a rail stop on the line that goes to UnivAmph), and in the heart of the touristy section of Hollywood


i stayed here in april. it was fine. clean and the rooms even had a bit of atmosphere. on the first floor there is a 24hour diner, i give the coffee 7 out of 10 stars

― kephm (kephm), Monday, 25 October 2004 15:00 (twenty-one years ago)

How is the Hollywood Forever Cemetery?

Is it worth it to check out the former homes of Marilyn Monroe, James Dean, and Elvis Presley?

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 25 October 2004 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I can do the whole cemetary gates thing with you, Mary. Hollywood Forever has been revamped in recent years. I haven't actually been since the new owners took over. They have a film series on weekends. I wish I knew the schedul-- I think it may only happen during the summer. Forest Lawn in Glendale is not so celeb-oriented, but it was the inspiration for The Loved One. The one is Westwood where Monroe is buried is very small and not far from the Armand Hammer museum and the Getty.

Not so sure about checking out the former homes. I do have a one of those ghoulish Hollywood death-sites guides around, though, we can just drive around with that.

― Arthur (Arthur), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

it was rosemary's baby last saturday.

― identity theftor (deangulberry), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't realize Marilyn had such Southwestern taste

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/gurovr/dining_room.htm

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I go to hipster bar Little Joy all the time! It's always awkward because I see this girl there I dated all the time!

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I love this picture....

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/gurovr/marilynmonroed/IMAG0012.JPG

― Arthur (Arthur), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 02:32 (twenty-one years ago)

the university of judaism is pretty neat: modern buildings, terraced views... and it's just one exit north of the getty.

― youn, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 02:50 (twenty-one years ago)

HI DERE. I LIVE 3 BLOCKS FROM DA CAT N FIDDLE AND 5 FROM DA BEST WESTERN HOTEL W/ DA 101 CAFE. MARILYN LIVED ACROSS DA STREET FROM ME IN DA 1950S IN DA FONTENOY. IF YOU PAY SMALL FEE, I CAN HOOK YOU UP WITH DIS FRIEND OF A FRIEND WHO KNOWS WHICH HOUSE IN DA CUL DE SAC IS MORRISSEY'S ON SWEETZER. U MUST LOOK LATINO IN RETURN THOUGH; START GETTING READY NOW. HOPE YOU REMEMBER OUR IM CONVO FROM AUGUST! IF U WANT TO FAP, JUST EMAIL!!

― Vic, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 07:27 (twenty-one years ago)

HI VIC, NICE TO HEAR FROM YOU. I HAVE RECENTLY FOUND OUT SAID ADDRESS, BUT YOU HAVE MISSED THE MEMO THAT WE NO LONGER REFER TO THE STREET ON THE WEB IN RESPECT TO THE MAN'S PRIVACY. I DEFINITELY WANT TO FAP AND VISIT ANY AND ALL MONROE BRANDO DEAN PRESLEY HOTSPOTS.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

LIKE PUPPIES? HATE EELS? WE HAVE SO MUCH IN COMMON... IT'S CRAZY!! - 29
Reply to: anon-46356392@craigslist.org
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frequently found rescuing pitifully small, mewing kittens from beneath the smoldering remains of overturned bigrigs, this very attractive young white guy stands 6 feet tall, weighs in at 165 lbs, goes to the gym, eats healthy food, and still manages to find time for fun outside of his incredibly busy schedule producing television, saving the world, and writing seemingly endless run-on sentences like this one (see above).

what he seeks in a woman is someone who is definitely over the age of 18, as he doesn't want to break any laws, and under, say, 35 or so. A woman who is uninhibited, fun, sexual, and likes to laugh would also help make this young attractive guy very happy. He isn't loking for women who are uptight or carry excessive baggage, so clergy, republicans, and lawyers perhaps need not apply. Sorority girls can also hold back their applications, unless they are frolicking and holding a pillowfight party.

rarely does he refer to himself in the third person, like Bob Dole, but this time it seemed appropriate. He isn't really necessarily looking for a longterm relationship, but if frequant bouts of casual sex leads to something more steady, then who could possibly complain? She doesn't actually have to be a poolhall tomgirl either. Tight pants are a plus.

he has a pic, is really very fun and normal, very attractive, really, and he would love to see a picture from you if you should be so inclined, along with a description of why you would want to hang around and whatnot.

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

the 'and whatnot' makes it for me.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

A very sly boots.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I GOT OFFERED FREE TICKETS TO MORRISSEY'S HALLOWEEN SHOW?! SHOULD I GO?!?!?!

― identity theftor (deangulberry), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Jon, Southwest airfare is always cheap to come out here.

Also, if you come up and wrap around a weekend we can drive up to San Francisco and meet-up with the folks there.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

No, give them to me!

― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, if you come up and wrap around a weekend we can drive up to San Francisco and meet-up with the folks there.

*jealous* I really need to get back to SF.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I am going up 11/23-11/29, for sure.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, I may go up in December. I can smuggle you in my heart.

― identity theftor (deangulberry), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Jer, what about visiting during January?

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll be home until the 6th, I think, and at Sundance for a weekend near the end. But during hte middle two weeks I'm golden.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

that would be keen

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I am going up 11/23-11/29, for sure.

Fuckles. I have to stay around due to work and holiday commitments, but those are good things in turn.

Ned, I may go up in December. I can smuggle you in my heart.

But is there enough room in that generous heart of yours?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

It may be a little cold.

― identity theftor (deangulberry), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

"cold"

― sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

"two sizes two small"

― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

"very small and warm"

― identity theftor (deangulberry), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going in December, too.

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll be in SF this weekend!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Halloween by the Bay!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

They're literally giving away tickets to the Halloween show. I could get in by showing my Universal Amp ticket, but there is the little problem of airfare. Definitely go! Though I think it would be really funny if he canned the make-up show.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I am thinking that I might go, but I don't want to go to KROQ to pick up the tickets nor do I want to drive to Devore. It is at 3 PM though and wouldn't interfere with any Halloween fun. HRM. Free, too...

― identity theftor (deangulberry), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 18:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Matinee Moz show? . . . Lucky! You must go and report back what costume the man wears.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a feeling that he is going to show up at 3:30 and do 45 minutes and leave.

Maybe he will dress up as a man with plants in his pants.

― identity theftor (deangulberry), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

ill be up in hurrrrrr!!

― big chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 19:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't be silly; he is sure to last as long as 50 minutes.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

And cancellations of tonight's Houston and tomorrow's Austin's show opens the possibility that I may not to have to schedule my L.A. time around any pesky concerts.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

uh oh...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

D'oh!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Will this test the limits of my infatuation, or only serve to strengthen it? I suppose I could bring him soup if he does cancel (just kidding).

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I would strongly suggest not bringing French onion soup or vichyssoise.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps I could just lob a loaf of his favorite bread (Warburton's) over the gate?

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Dare to dream.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I am not going. Moz can bite me!

― THAT Adam Levine (deangulberry), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

A Morrissey-solo poster sez the cancellations aren't due to illness but something more nefarious.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Lame.

― THAT Adam Levine (deangulberry), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

There is much doubt in the followup comments.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Except for the homophobes.

― THAT Adam Levine (deangulberry), Friday, 29 October 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, there is intrigue! Ned, do you ever post on M-solo, or just lurk, like myself?

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 29 October 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Henry Wrinkler's son announced that the Halloween make-up show will go ahead hell or high-water, so that's a 50/50 chance I guess.

Can anyone recommend any L.A. books I should read to get in the mood/prepare for my visit. I have read the classics I think, N. West, Didion, Fitzgerald, Hwood Babylon... Right now I'm breezing through a galley that I picked up at work--The Chrysanthemum Palace--by Bruce Wagner. Should I read any other of his books? Should I read any books by that guy who wrote the Player? Suggestions below: trashy volumes welcomed.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

The Chateau Marmont coffee table book is good.

― adam... (nordicskilla), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

My personal recommendation - John Fante.

― adam... (nordicskilla), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooo maybe Mickey Spillane?

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0789300230/qid=1099088553/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-3596190-9276016?v=glance&s=books

My copy is all beaten up. Vanity Fair comparison OTM.

― adam... (nordicskilla), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

It's only partially LA, but one option is a noir homage set in 50s Venice (and an obscure adolescent favorite) - Ray Bradbury's Death is a Lonely Business

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Those look good. Also, Children of Light by Bob Stone is excellent.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

My personal recommendation - John Fante.

hmm. one page about DIALB says Fante's Inherit the Dust is a somewhat similar but perhaps more Angeleno work.

i'll save the locals the trouble and mention City of Quartz

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Inherit The Dust=Ask The Dust?

― adam... (nordicskilla), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess so

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a grudge against Mike Davis ever since I did some thankless reseach assistance for an article on a new book of his. Thus, I will boycott his works forevermore.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

He teaches here at UCI, y'know.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 29 October 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry for missing the memo.

I have read this entire thread carefully now, and am intrigued by this Shorty's place regarding haircuts. Wouldn't it be funny if morris, Spencer and I wound up "sharing" the same Kevin, and I inadvertently learned of all of the sordid details they confide to him ? I'm really just interested in finding something something cheap, and I too have been very, very picky recently.

― Vic, Saturday, 30 October 2004 06:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Read: Day of the Locust

― Remy (x Jeremy), Saturday, 30 October 2004 06:22 (twenty-one years ago)

thankless research assistance? what happened?

― motown modown (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 30 October 2004 06:27 (twenty-one years ago)

hey remy:

I have read the classics I think, N. West

― motown modown (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 30 October 2004 06:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I've read Day of the Locust and seen the movie. It's tops.

Nothing exciting, I was interning and had to search for all these holes in Mike D's work.

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 30 October 2004 06:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Whoops, invalidate my junk. i've been up for 22 hours; I will be up for 1/3 more.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Saturday, 30 October 2004 06:30 (twenty-one years ago)

What about Evelyn Waugh's (what a name, phonetically) "The Loved One," ? And make sure you watch your copies of Sunset Blvd / The Big Sleep / The Long Goodbye / Chinatown / Repo Man / Pulp Fiction / Mulholland Drive just one more time before you leave... too many others to list, really

Don't make the classic mistake of NOT bringing a sweater/cardigan or a light fall jacket, either. 'Tis was chilly here last nite (ie, 50degF!).

― Vic, Saturday, 30 October 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

also: Mike Davis (and his pessimism) suck/s and has been discredited numerous places

― Vic, Saturday, 30 October 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.laserdisken.dk/billeder/forsidealm/39033.jpg

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 30 October 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't forget Boogie Nights.

― nickn (nickn), Saturday, 30 October 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I received the following suggestions last night: Mel's Diner (formerly Ben Frank's), the "Rock and Roll" Denny's, and Cantor's; which do you recommend?

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 30 October 2004 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, has anyone eaten at the Gardens of Taxco?

http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/78235/

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 30 October 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

why is this thread losing new answers?

anyway, Greenblatt's deli is not far from bnb. so is a Mexican restaurant named in one of my semi-old guidebooks (not sure if still there) - La Fabula, 7953 Santa Monica Blvd (at Hayworth). LA Weekly's Where to Eat Now: Hollywood. there are tacos on Olvera St, but I dunno how they match up with the best. Philippe the Original in Chinatown is historic. the Lebanese-Armenian-Hollywood Zankou Chicken is often mentioned as a bang-for-buck place. My guidebook calls Duke's in West Hollywood the "essential rock 'n' roll breakfast spot," and Chan Dara in Hollywood "L.A.'s most rock 'n' roll Thai restaurant." The Ivy - a very LA/Hollywood place - is expensive, but there's an adjunct takeout dessert store that's well-known in its own right. Citrine is very expensive, but there's an "Ocean's Eleven" bar menu of $11 (appetizer/tapa-size, presumably) dishes that might be worth it for the decor and atmosphere.

Note also Blogging LA's Best of LA

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 31 October 2004 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

How often does the rain pour in LA?

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 1 November 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

it did on wednesday.

― still bevens (bscrubbins), Monday, 1 November 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

So once every decade?

― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 1 November 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

For L.A. books, there's always Less Than Zero (Bret Easton Ellis notes that not a single line from his book is in the movie!). His The Informers is good too (not exactly as "good", but slightly less nihilistic).

For eats, I'd recommend Swingers on Beverly at 2am - food is decent, but the people watching is the real draw. Urth Caffe is also excellent for that (but the coffee at King's Road is better).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 1 November 2004 07:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Lisa recommended Swingers as well. And Sawtelle Avenue.

Has anyone eaten here?

http://losangeles.citysearch.com/profile/40840210/los_angeles_ca/sushi_tenn.html?cslink=roundup_name_noncust&ulink=roundup__roundupentity1-4_1__0_profile_2_1

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 1 November 2004 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I was in LA for almost the entire weekend, including Lolita Corpus's splendid Saturday night party. Rah!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 1 November 2004 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone know anything about the Rumba Room in Unviversal City? I may check out this party:

http://www.indieprinting.com/morrissey/index.html

(trying to take my mind off the less than optimistic poll results)

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 03:53 (twenty-one years ago)

http://roadsidepeek.com/coffeeeats/coffeeshop/index.htm

― adam... (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm in koreatown. i'm going to amoeba in a bit and then giant robot. i ate 10 tacos last night and got a t-shirt.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Gygax if you're still here on Thurs you are welcome at the Red Lion at 7pm. (see Sad FAP? thread)

― Orbit (Orbit), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

dude, I'm in Koreatown right now.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 17:41 (twenty-one years ago)

wanna meet at Amoeba for lunch?

― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

so fucking dud

― trigonalmayhem, Wednesday, 3 November 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

?

― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

i am not hungry ( i ate 10 tacos next to jeff weaver last night ) but i can meet at amoeba. i will email you in a sec. i have to go with my friend to their work but i should be there around 10:30-11am for about 30-60 minutes. woo woo.

i'm going south tonight but I'll be back on saturday (trying to see OoioO mk. 2).

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

k.

― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 3 November 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

you guys missed an amazing Psychic TV show last night. Truly amazing. in other news Babyland is one of the worst bands ive ever seen.

― big chaki (chaki), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I like babyland. maybe it was a bad show?

― Orbit (Orbit), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)

the voice is bad and the "im playing trashcans over 90s techno" thing is tiresome

― big chaki (chaki), Thursday, 4 November 2004 05:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Any ideas for if and where we should gather? I arrive Thursday/ leave Sat. afternoon.

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 9 November 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow--what a crazy week. First, thanks to Adam for recommending the Secret Garden B and B. I was a little freaked out when I arrived and Ramon was offering me tea because I felt like I just needed to be alone for a bit, but he was wonderfully nice and helpful and a great breakfast cook, as you said.

Thank you to Arthur for driving me around both days:) As I was waiting for Arthur to call the first day I was there, I took a little walk down Sunset. Passed the Chateau Marmont and came to *that* street. Took photos of the intersection and street signs. While I am lumbering about like a doofus with a camera in one hand a car stops at the intersection. It is a black BMW. I look in the driver window, whose side I am on. Not Moz. I look in the passenger window. Though the windows are tinted the person appears to be Moz. But perhaps I am hallucinating. As I did expect his home would be the last place he wanted to be that day, with rabid fans the likes of me around. The person makes an exagerrated nod with his head. I smile and look away. Embarassed. They are stopped there for a long time. I turn and walk away from them and up his street. Whoops!

His house was great but had 2 gardeners and a large truck in front of it. I took some pictures. I meet Arthur at the taco chain and he drives me all around Mulholland and to get good view of the Hollywood sign. Thanks Arthur! I arrive at the concert at 7 and am able to get front row against the barricade way to the right. I was ready for the rockabilly Latin boys, but not the girls. They are so hot. I feel completely underdressed. Their hair is pompadoured, their clothes tight-fitting, with narrow jeans or circle skirts, and tight form revealing shirts, flowers are in their hair, eyes are made up to the Priscilla Presley level. Wow. Hot.

The show is amazing. Before Morrissey even comes on there is just so much love coming from every single seat in the house. Usually at shows the people at front are super into it, but at the UA it seemed everyone in the theater was just in love with Moz. I think the show is great but assume it's normal for L.A. Not until I get home and read the various reports do I realize that a lot of people are saying this is one of the best shows ever. He does a cover of Patti Smith's Redondo Beach which is absolutely beautiful. I go to the after party which is nice in that its 100% Moz, the one exception being Sandie Shaw, "Hand in Glove"

The next day I hit the Virgin at Sunset and spend a lot more time there than I had planned, because I didn't realize thay had such great Brit imports. I buy the Nancy Sinatra single. I then take the bus to Book Soup which is a bit smaller and crowded than I thought. I then go back to the Walk of Fame and waste a lot of time trying to find this mystery check cashing place. Then Arthur calls and says the plan is to meet Vic at the Cat and Fiddle. We are late to meet Vic because of check cashing problems, so Vic can only stay for a second, and I eat his mashed pototoes and drink his coke. Thanks Vic! My friend Jen comes and meets us in the courtyard for awhile then we go to the second show. This show is good but not as good as the night before and security prevents me from scamming better seats.

Someone I met in the pit the night before tells me that there is an after party called Underground at some bar. So we go. But it's not really an after-party, it's just a major Anglo night, much like Trash/Rififi in Manhattan. I love it but my friend feels uncomfortable. When the bar closes we go to Canter's. I think it's great but my friend doesn't enjoy it. Then we call Vic who graciously invites us to his pad where he is partying with some friend's, one of which is "JMC's brother" a/k/a Robots in Love. Had a great time at Vic's, stayed till around 5 in the morning I think.

My friend left to get a flight to Vegas and I go back to the B and B. I arrive at the airport around 12:30 for my flight to Vegas and who is checking in in front of me but the lads, Morrissey's backing band. I assume Moz has made other travel arrangements, until I see his body guard standing out on the street. I hang back and wait to see what will happen. After about 20 minutes a black car pulls up and Morrissey gets out. I start taking pictures. He looks over at me and doesn't seem too annoyed (I hope). After they've been standing outside for awhile, just hanging outside of the car, some supernatural force comes over and I approach him and tell him my name. He says, "Yes, I've NOticed you." I just repeat back, "You've noticed me?" and can't think of anything new to say. We both stand there for a split second. I had my camera but it didn't seem like he was in the picture taking mood so I didn't ask for one. Then he and his men take off toward the airport doors.

I really do have to follow them to go through security, but I try to give them a bit of space, like I am 30 feet behind. But, Moz and his bodyguard look back to me every so often as if they are afraid I am going to do something unsavory. So I pause for a bit and turn around to give them time to get ahead a bit. Then, someone says, "Miss," I turn around at and it is Morrissey's manager. He's like, "Thank you for being understanding." I'm like no problem, and try to let him know that I don't plan to attack Morrissey:)

I walk to the gate and sit down near the Moz boys. I don't see Morrissey. I go and buy a magazine and come back again. I noticed Morrissey's bodyguard against the window to the far side of the gate, and I see a perfectly coiffed back of the head. I think Moz is just sitting there staring out the window, not reading or talking or anything, and probably praying I won't come up and talk to him:)

Gareth calls and I tell him my nifty story. He says my voice is shaking. I get on the plane and I think Moz boards after me. I leave him alone in first class. After the flight, he's about 50 feet ahead of me walking out. I lose them at some point and that's the end of that. until:

Last night at the Letterman show. Can't get into the taping. So wait outside the stage doors. Morrissey has already gone in. See Nic Cage and Jason Alexander go in and go out, they are both extremely pleasant, and stop for a long time to take pics and sign autgraphs. Morrissey's manager comes by and picks up some gifts from the crowd, including a little note from me. He says, "You were in L.A, right? I smile bashfully and nod assent. Morrissey walks out. It's like a press conference. Lights are flashing and people are screaming Morrissey, Morrissey. He stops for half a second, as if pretending to be startled by all the lights, and sort of half smiles and bows his head, then he ambles sweving to the black Mercedes, as if dodging all the lights. I had heard reports of two different hotels he was staying at, but by that point, after being noticed on two separate coasts, I decide to give it a rest and go to clebrate B's birthday with him.

Sorry not to see Ned and Spencer, and the other's who I haven't met yet, but I'd love to come back. I heart Moz Angeles.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 18 November 2004 00:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Awesome! But nobody called me???!!! I replied to you and Mark with my number!! You guys are all on my sh*t-list until we hang out again, ha!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 November 2004 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I like LA!

― adam... (nordicskilla), Thursday, 18 November 2004 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, Spence, I didn't get your e-mail until I got back, and I didn't get your call until I was at the airport. I called you back but your # was busy.

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 18 November 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

http://rollerderbysuperstar.com/beatpunk/release-flyer.jpg

― big chaki (chaki), Thursday, 18 November 2004 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i ate 10 tacos next to jeff weaver last night

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 18 November 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Mary, I kid!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 November 2004 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry to have missed you, Mary! Another time. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 November 2004 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I am certain that all the drunk people in my apartment Friday night loved Mary, even the one who was puking from my balcony onto the woman-who-told-everyone-to-shut-up's balcony below. She represented New York very well, and should forget whatever else I said that night; she is my fave Nychilxor or however it's spelled. I am sorry though, that my one friend who was telling you things like his name is "Ralphie" and that he works as a zoologist (? I heard all this second-hand), was lying to you about...everything. That was actually my former internship "boss."

I am quite satisfied to hear how successful all the Moz stalking turned out. He NOTICED you! Next time you're here though, you are definitely coming to BANG. And bringing Arthur.

And now, I have some big news: after failing to in June, I may actually be making it to NYC for new year's! I will look you up, if possible... and now I shall get back to that private email :)

Chaki - I may possibly come to your show tonight after/if I get some shit done, but you never called me back sat!! That's okay, because after that les savy fav show we were so smashed we forgot about you and started selling pizza we bought at combo's on the boulevard, next to the evangelicals. I don't really remember everything, ...but I don't believe we made a profit? Unfortunately no sexual favors were solicited either, despite repeated attempts. Ask the robots in love guy for details.

― Vic (Vic), Saturday, 20 November 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, I just got your message. I am avoiding answering my cell for multiple-multiple reasons, sorry, but yes....a drunken screening of ALEXANDER seems like an aptly suitable idea for Wednesday. I might be working that afternoon though, so you can keep Di company at that time. Let's take all this to email.

― Vic (Vic), Saturday, 20 November 2004 04:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Rockness! Arthur is in for that as well, so I think we have a plan. Will e-mail.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 20 November 2004 04:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Hello.

What is the reputation of the LA Times, in general?

― adam... (nordicskilla), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

And what do YOU think of it?

How does it compare in terms of editorial, political slant, etc. to other newspapers like THE NEW YORK TIMES and THE SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE?

― adam... (nordicskilla), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a very good paper, and the Sunday version is very big according to Martin Amis in The Information.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Sarah always reads it when we are in LA and wants to get it, on Sundays. Is this perverse?

― adam... (nordicskilla), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

The reputation is a bit conservative. The LA Weekly is where the hard-hitting investigative stuff is.

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

What would James Ellroy read?

― adam... (nordicskilla), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the LA Weekly can be a bit hysterical and it's more of a magazine. The LA Times is a full-featured newspaper that's not quite as good as the NY Times. Unsurprisingly, the auto and industry (THE industry, duh) are excellent, and international coverage can be excellent. I'd take the NY Times over the LA Times on any given sunday.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, the LA Times leans almost as far left as the NY Times (which isn't especially far left). The Daily News is the more conservative Southern California paper (never mind whatever other papers they read in the OC) and is widely read in the Valleys.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

How does the Chronicle compare to these?

― adam... (nordicskilla), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I was disappointed with the Chronicle when I lived in the Bay Area as it seemed kind of amateur. I like the movie ratings cartoon guy.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

The LA Times is near the bottom of, but on, the long short list of half a dozen or so major American newspapers. It is far ahead of the San Francisco Chronicle. It is most valuable for its political coverage by Ron Brownstein, its new editorial direction under Michael Kinsley, and its features.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer OTM

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, then.

I think I just decided I might come down to LA over Martin Luther King weekend. Is the traffic and/or the city going to be unbearable?

― adam... (nordicskilla), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Daily News has the best comics. Zippy the pinhead, Pearls Before Swine, Mother Goose and Grimm and Get Fuzzy.

― chaki in charge (chaki), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't see why it would be, Adam. At least, it wouldn't be any more unbearable than normal. It's is pretty damn windy and cold here though, but by then it could be sunny and warm. Also, I probably shouldn't tell someone from the Bay about how windy and cold it is in LA.

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I often go the LA Times for state politcal coverage as the Comicle's is rather sparse.

― Michael White (Hereward), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I miss Hollywood Dog in the LA Reader

― luna (luna.c), Monday, 29 November 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Is LA good for New Year's...or..is it fucking awful? ;)

― adam... (nordicskilla), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

mitch hedberg is playing

― chaki in charge (chaki), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Depends where you're at and who you're with! I was half thinking of SF for New Year's this time around but I'm waiting to see what happens where.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

ent. wise... it sucks more now that people like manhola etc keep leaving to go to the freaking NY Times. %#$ing sellouts. and keeping h!lburn for so long as music writer in chief also isnt smart. alo, for industry news most ppl rely more on the trades (variety, hollywood reprter) but sometimes the distance of the times can help in getting a diff perspecive, and for leaking dirt out. more accessible to non-industry ppl

also, the web edition sucks...unlike the NYT you have to pay to read most of it.

― vic, Monday, 29 November 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

What is the reputation of the LA Times, in general? How does it compare in terms of editorial, political slant, etc. to other newspapers like THE NEW YORK TIMES and THE SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE?

Politically pretty left. It's not as editorally thorough as the NYT but has more of a real newspaper feel than the SF Comical (which, as noted above, is a joke).

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Oakland Tribune?

― adam... (nordicskilla), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Fresno Bee.

― chaki in charge (chaki), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Anderson Valley Advertiser
http://www.theava.com/

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

latimes.com is the worst newspaper website i read on a regular basis. pop up ads everywhere and you cant even check out the calendar articles unless you have a subscription. they also dont archive anything older than a week or so.

― still bevens (bscrubbins), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

All I need to know, I get from the Santa Cruz Comic News.

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, their delivery people are the worst. Lazy. They won't even go up my stairs! WTF! (xp to bevens)

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pretty sure the Mercury-News is the second-best paper in California

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Monday, 29 November 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I just decided I might come down to LA over Martin Luther King weekend.

Cool! We'll go to hipster parties and show up on polaroidscene!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay! I don't know what that is, though!

― adam... (nordicskilla), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

It means your last vestiges of privacy are GONE FOREVER. (or not)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Does that mean I get to be detached and coolly ironic?

I am dying for the chance to wear my special hat again.

http://www.imcshop.co.uk/acatalog/conscript%20hat.jpg

even if Soviet kitsch is like, so done.

― adam... (nordicskilla), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe I will just wear it to the next SFAP. JaXoN woul look good in this hat, I think.

― adam... (nordicskilla), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

From Peter Macia's Pitchfork review of the new Autolux record:

Los Angeles, as we all know and love it, is a fucking cesspool. It's seething with pretty little coke-fed nihilists with shards of hair and vintage fabrics jutting from their dancing skeletons. Skid row after parties are 10 times more populated than the actual shows, and the hordes toast caffeinated vodkas to a vacuous neo-dancepunk set by a B-list celebrity DJ. It's enough to make one want to get the hell out of town, but of course it's difficult to even afford a full tank of gas these days. So instead hitch a ride with fellow Angelenos, Autolux, on their debut Future Perfect. Their optimism is reassuring.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

here's my review of the review from an ILM thread:

Death to Pitchfork and corny insular indie self-hating and life-hating fuxx.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:50 (twenty-one years ago)

caffeinated vodkas?

dont hate our hipsters because theyre prettier than yours.

― still bevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

"pretty ugly" = awesome LA hipster song written by 2 of the biggest hipsters in LA in the height of hipstery hipsterdom! i'm gonna faint.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

People who hate on LA are boring.

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know if I hate the laziness in regurgitating tired L.A. cliche's or the smug indie judgement of people who go out and enjoy themselves.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

It's jealousy over all the coke you snort. (Need to borrow some of mine?)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Sounds like the beginning of a police show starring us as semi-crooked LA detectives!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

It's all the beautiful women that get on my nerves -- who the hell do they think they are?

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Sounds like the beginning of a police show starring us as semi-crooked LA detectives!

Fagen and Becker -- they're cops. (Starring Spencer Chow and Ned Raggett, with Adamrl as Huggles the Bear)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

... but do these cops ... rock?

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

It's all the beautiful women that get on my nerves -- who the hell do they think they are?

Joking aside, this sounds exactly like what is likely going through that pitchfork reviewer's hate-filled mind.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Curse these women and my unflagging desire to have sex with them!

Also, I need to find these b-list celebrity DJs.. Im sure they rock in some capacity. Perhaps a d-list real world cast off can provide me with the rock that Im looking for.

― still bevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

PITCHFORK IN 'YOUR FAULT NOT OURS' SHOCKER

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I just had a vision of a show called Avenging Celebs where actors do a lot of martial arts and say things like, "Who you callin' B-list?!"

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Your show is a fucking cesspool.

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Cesspool-side.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

The F.C.

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I think life here is pretty normal. Could I really be so stuck in The F.C. that I cannot understand these criticisms, or how life is so drastically different elsewhere? I mean, yesterday I worked, ate a sandwich, then went out to Spaceland to see a band and had a beer.

The line about the skid-row afterparty is true though.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I tend to think people dress up/dress crazier here than they do in other locales but I havent been to NYC or any other really big city other than SF so I could be wrong.

― still bevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

no one goes to shows in la

― chaki in charge (chaki), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

*sings said line to the tune of Missing Persons*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Most of the shows that I go to don't have afterparties, so I can't vouch for that ... but it seems like any place in LA that has some sort of promotional giveaway or free/reduced liquor is going to get a huge turnout.

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

That review is hilarious, since you know....people don't do cocaine in New York. They just sit on the subways and get natural highs.

― Vic, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

It's true. Didn't LA steal everything it knows about being hip from NY anyhow?

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

chaki's otm. I came down here from SF/San Jose and used to get all hyped about buying tickets to shows as they went on sale, because up north youre fucked if you dont act fast. down here you can generally wait till the day of and you'll be set.

― still bevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I go see the permanent "free show" outside my doorstep more than anything...starring tattooists, tourists and trannies, I believe it's called "Hollywood Freakery. "

― Vic, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

The FC is so awesome...where in Pitchforkian Chicago can I see an evangelicals vs. new age Latino fight at 1 AM that I did on the Boulevard here a couple weeks ago, outside of a goth club on top of that?

― Vic, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

L.A. was totally not as glamorous and intimidating as I expected. I thought everyone would look like wanna be reality TV actresses and models, but really, everyone looked the same dark and dirty as they do in NYC. I swear, at this bar I went to, Underground, somewhere, I had the lightest hair in the entire place. I think it might have had something to do with the places I was hanging out? (Except for the Latin chicas at the Morrissey show—they were very glamorous, but not in the stereotypical way.)

― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

there were some very attractive latinos/latinas out in force at the moz show I went to.

― still bevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)


It's true. Didn't LA steal everything it knows about being hip from NY anyhow?

-- I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (power.strik...), November 30th, 2004.

No Noise Boy....that's just a cultural cliche that's been regurgitated since the New York Modernists invented it back in the 20s & 30s, when NYC/east coast hipsters _first_ started feeling threatened by LA. They branded it the bastion of "low" or mass culture, while trying to define the more-Euro New York as "high culture," ...but it's all a myth, as this one essay I had bookmarked (and have since lost!) conveyed much better than I can here. It's actually the other way around: Hollywood first created and defined "hip" through the use of the star system, and Fifth Avenue followed in regards to marketing from there onwards...

― Vic, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

GET ONE JOKE

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus, everyone knows that LA isn't shitty ... just Hollywood.

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I got it.

xpost Hollywood is great!

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

that's just a cultural cliche that's been regurgitated since the New York Modernists invented it back in the 20s & 30s, when NYC/east coast hipsters _first_ started feeling threatened by LA

they were threatened by all that jass music out in the hills

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

No jokes....having this thread devolve into an all out NYC vs LA: TS would be cool.

Gabbneb, if you lived during the early 20th century, I'm sure you'd know exactly where all that jasssss was emanating from, since based on the history of this thread above, you seem to be quite the LA tour guide. Have you lived here before?

― vic, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I lie. I've never been to Hollywood. I live in Wisconsin. I've seen pictures on the TV though, and they weren't very flattering. Skid Row sounds fun though! I LIKE METAL!

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Speaking of skid row, are there any clubs downtown anymore? I used to love Al's Bar and the Hong Kong Cafe.

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I love NYC, but I am a bit bored of it at the moment. California has so many secrets.

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus I listen to hair metal.

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, I remember well Fletcher Henderson's decade-long stint at The Troc with Louis Armstrong and Dave 'the Snake' Sabo

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

let's have a fap at the jazz bakery in about 3 weeks or when someone good is playing. i've never been there before.

― youn, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I would love to go there but never have any idea who is worth seeing...

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

(i've never lived in LA)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

There's a new bar downtown called The Golden Gopher which is good. I've been going to some skid-row after parties at a big space off santa fe and also under the 1st street bridge (it's like the setting for the West Side Story fight). There are some new fancy places coming downtown with Kelly Wearstler interiors etc.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh I'm sorry Dean!!! I thought I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (power.strik...) was the latest Jon Williams alias....forgive my tone up there. You ARE one of US, etc. You're allowed to diss LA if you live here, but not from 3,000 miles away.

but the constant self-loathing also gets a bit tired so like sunny happy cokeheads let's all say nice things and go rollerskating together. Youn, di and i are sorry btw hat we couldn't visit you in Laguna on Sunday...you should try to make the next FAP up here next time.

― Vic, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i don't really know anything about jazz either, but i remember watching this band perform at some kind of center by the hayward gallery in london. it just gave you a good feeling to listen to the music. and then a young white woman and an elderly black man started dancing together and it was classic. they were really good, plus they were wearing the right clothes. i think she even had white gloves on. anyway, i looked at the jazz bakery calendar and it's pretty much one band per week. i'll ask my aunt if she has heard of them or if she knows of any other venues/events.

― youn, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been going to some skid-row after parties at a big space off santa fe and also under the 1st street bridge (it's like the setting for the West Side Story fight).

is this outdoors? i saw a party/show/benefit at the "Santa Fe Loading Docks" about 10 years ago (dust bros. were the DJs).

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

The santa fe space is almost all indoors, but the under the 1st street bridge space is mostly actually 'under the bridge'- it's too cold for parties there this time of year.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

The Santa Fe space is next to a strip club (the name of which escapes me at the moment).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I went to this salvadoran place on washington blvd near the jazz bakery a couple months ago and walked in on this jazz band playing some tunes. It was pretty amazing as well as FREE. Doesnt the jazz bakery charge like 20 bucks or something at the door?

― still bevens (bscrubbins), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Can you ride a bije along the LA River like in San Andreas?

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

a BIKE

― adam... (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i think you might be able to around those parts of the river that run in griffith park!!

― vic, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

or maybe i'm just thinking of that portion of the river that runs alongside Riverside near the highland park / glendale area, which is not too far from both griffith and downtown. i was driving around there in the summer and the roadside is so broad that bikers can easily peddle through.

the los angeles river is kind of weak though despite hitting burbank right near warner bros...at points it's nothing more than a stream

― vic, Tuesday, 30 November 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently this is a record store on Cahuenga that sells Moz bootlegs; why was I not apprised of this fact earlier?

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know this store.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

vinyl fetish?

― chaki in charge (chaki), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

spencer, were you in amoeba on sunday night?

― Remy Snush (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh! Maybe it's just Amoeba? Which store do you think this refers to?

chloe was also at a record store (the name totally slips my mind) on cahuenga inbetween sunset and hollywood that saturday asking about morrissey bootlegs (as my friend and i were purchasing our own moz goods).

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost: nope.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

hm, in that case it's a good thing I didn't try to say hello.

― Remy Snush (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Adam, I don't know if you're still interested in the L.A. Times, but it recently won a Pulitzer for Criticism -- for the auto critic!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Tip for Spencer - always confirm sightings of yourself, even if they are fake. ILXer milton "spotted" me at a Wolf Eyes show in Oakland...even though I wasn't there.

― adam... (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for the tip Adam. Also, I heard about your little "incident" with the paparazzi and I want you to know I fully support your right to aggressively defend your privacy.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, remy, dude, we've hung out! Don't you know what I look like?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)


I'm surprised that I noticed you that one time, Spencer, having never seen you before in person.

Mary: the directions are a bit off for Amoeba, but pretty close, so I'd say that it's probably Amoeba. I can't think of any other stores that close to Amoeba.

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer, was that some kind of Maroon 5 joke?

― adam... (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, remy, dude, we've hung out! Don't you know what I look like?

Yesh, but I was up on the balcony and not-you was down on the ground below. Also, I was sorta high.

― Remy Snush (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost

Adam No! I was just imagining that we were being pally celebrities.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

oh...and I ruined it.

― adam... (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

no you didn't. Also, I met Maroon 5 at a bar down the street and they were lame - they wouldn't have gone after that photographer the way you did.

Remy, I see.

and Dean, next time say hi. I'm in there all the time.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, we can go to that restaurant next door and you can have a pabst and deep fried twinkie, on me.

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:41 (twenty-one years ago)

That wasn't innuendo.

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Sounds like a plan for the next FAP (that's not innuendo either!)

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm in for that. Actually, what's everyone doing Friday night?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you asking me out?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Company Holiday party and then friend's birthday party at Pinot.

Phoenix f*cking sold out, so if anyone has connections and can get me a ticket for 12/12 at the Troubadour, I'd be ever so grateful.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you asking me out?

I'm asking who you are, yes.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I'm confused.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Phoenix sold out? How big is the venue? Are they exceptionally popular in L.A.? (I ask because I wasn't planning on buying advanced tix in Chicago.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

They're probably "bigger" here due to their popularity on KCRW.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know why I put quotes around bigger!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

You were slyly referring to their swell in popularity.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

"Innuendo!"

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm coming to LA at the beginning of February. Where should I go/stay? Should I go to SF, too? I've probably only got a bit over a week in CA altogether.

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude! That's great news! :-) Marvellous to see you again -- all LA folks, I can confirm that Andrew the Server God is a fine fellow and a half, and we must FAP accordingly. Did you need a place to crash or were you wanting to get a hotel or...?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

If you haven't been to SF before, you really should go there.

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, you should do both. A week is plenty. If you drive, you might want to take a day and go up PCH.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer's advice is grand. Hell, I might even be able to arrange a place to stay in Carmel on the way up the PCH if you need it.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Is it Clint Eastwood's house?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

No, but my grandma knew his mom well, so.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I do drive, but I'm not sure whether I can afford car rental. (also I'm used to driving on the left, so that might cause problems) If I'm not driving, what's the best way of getting up to SF? Bus? Train? (Do trains even exist in the USA? - oh yeah, I remember Planes, Trains, and Automobiles, although that's not very encouraging.)

I'd appreciate any offers of accomodation anyone can throw my way. I'd only be one or two nights in any one place.

Where/what is PCH?

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Rental cars are cheep! You can get a decent one for $100 for the whole week. And you can sleep in it so you don't have to pay for hotels!

PCH=Pacific Coast Hwy=Hwy 1=Best Road in America

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Hrmm, I might have to go for that for LA, then. Any recommendations on good rental companies? I'll start taking notes...

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd be more than happy to let you crash with me, Andrew, but I'm down in Orange County and nowhere near as central as you'd probably want to be for LA. Still, let me know.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks, Ned. You're right, re: centralness (although I'd like to come down and check out OC for a day). I'll keep your offer in mind.

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

The Amtrak up the coast is great, too.

― adam... (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:31 (twenty-one years ago)

My housing situation is still pretty problematic for guests, but let me know when you have exact dates.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I checked out the OC. It is god's own country, to be sure.

― adam... (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Budget generally has the best rates. Call them, rather than arranging it online. There was about $300 difference once for me.
If you want a cd player or some other option, you don't have to pay more, just ask for one when you pick it up. If you're not happy with the one they give you in any way, ask for a different one.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Imagine if Remy got Jon Williams to come to California. It will be nice for him to be able to hang out with other electroclash lesbians his own age.

― adam... (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

haha.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for the advice, oops.

I propose to post a thread when I have my exact itinerary planned.

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

(As I'll be visting NYC, London, and Berlin too!)

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

GAWDAMN. ILX mastery hits the road! (Or you're just collecting DNA samples from all of us to give to Momus.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually I'm planning to spread a supervirus throughout the USA and Europe, and then fly to Hong Kong and disappear into obscurity forever.

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:39 (twenty-one years ago)

How boring.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 December 2004 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Mary: the directions are a bit off for Amoeba, but pretty close, so I'd say that it's probably Amoeba. I can't think of any other stores that close to Amoeba.

vinyl fetish!!!

― chaki in charge (chaki), Thursday, 2 December 2004 02:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess I'll just have to check them both next time I'm in town:)

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 2 December 2004 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

How does Vinyl Fetish stay in business in that area? Shoulda stayed over on Vermont. Then I could have walked to a record store. Bastards.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 2 December 2004 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)

they sell shirts, bondage gear and moz boots

― chaki in charge (chaki), Thursday, 2 December 2004 02:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, there are no other stores in that area. Only Amoeba and Jack in the Box.

― I'm serious ... Ti-i-i-i-im (deangulberry), Thursday, 2 December 2004 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Bad ideas learned the hard way #1:

doing shots of Jager at the Burgundy Room and then waking up the next morning next to a pile of Amoeba-purchased records that you don't remember purchasing.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 2 December 2004 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
I'll be moving there with my job in April or May...can someone give a rundown of what neighborhoods are good to live in ? I can spend at the most about $1500 for rent.

― 57 7th (calstars), Monday, 17 January 2005 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, you'll be fine with that budget! Where will your office be?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 17 January 2005 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i went there for christmas and nothing happened except i saw richard schiff.

D.

― John (jdahlem), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:02 (twenty-one years ago)

My office is going to be in Torrance.

― 57 7th (calstars), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

You should live in Marina Del Rey.

― Martha Stewart and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Monday, 17 January 2005 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Why? Because of the George Strait song?

― 57 7th (calstars), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Culver City is the new MDR.

― nickn (nickn), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

No, don't live in Culver City. I live there and you shouldn't live there. I want rent prices to go down, not up. Stay away from Culver City.

― Martha Stewart and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Basically there are a lot of livable and reasonable neighborhoods in L.A. It all depends on what you want/value. Your $1500 rent could get you a whole house in some parts of town and studio in others. I guess we need more information on what you do, what you like to do, car situation, etc.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

If you want to have a small commute, live in West LA. If you want to be secluded, live in Palos Verdes.

― Martha Stewart and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

If you want to be hip, live in Silverlake, Echo Park, Downtown loft etc etc. If you don't care about being hip, live in Santa Monica. If you have a yoga mat, you might want to think about parts of Venice. There are just so many viable areas.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 17 January 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I would like living in Santa Monica, though I do have a yoga mat. What can you get for 1200-1300? Are there good places for breakfast/brunch? Let's be cool, this is just a bit of fun!

― Awesome Welles (nordicskilla), Monday, 17 January 2005 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Santa Monica is also yoga mat friendly!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 17 January 2005 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

In fact you might say it's an essential item for residents. I think the neighborhood association gives you one when you move in!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 17 January 2005 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd like to get a house or a cottage, and it seems like it would be possible from what I've seen on craigslist. Are these likely to be in places in the middle of nowhere though? Anyway thanks for the tips.

― 57 7th (calstars), Monday, 17 January 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Not at all. There are numerous neighborhoods where that is possible. Will you have time to look at places after you arrive?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 17 January 2005 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

(And at the risk of increasing Dean's rent and blood pressure, you should in fact probably look at Culver City).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 17 January 2005 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll have three days...I need to get a tourist book so I can make sense of the neighborhoods (towns). Any other tips on how to find local real estate besides c-list? Is the LA Weekly or Times good?

― 57 7th (calstars), Monday, 17 January 2005 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

westsiderentals.com

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 17 January 2005 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Seriously though, Culver City is great.

Westsiderentals is equally great. I'd say that you should check out as many listings on there as possible right before you come out here and may a day's worth of appointments. Chances are, you won't be interested in 50% of the places you see, but you want to have as many options as possible. It can vary greatly from block to block and you won't really have much of an idea until you get out here.

― Urkle-bot and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Monday, 17 January 2005 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

"make"

― Urkle-bot and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Monday, 17 January 2005 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, for L.A. there's no real "center". There are multiple centers of shopping, nightlife, business, studios, etc. Also, commute times are highly variable. A 10 mile commute may take anywhere from 10 minutes to over an hour.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 17 January 2005 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

muchos gracias!

― 57 7th (calstars), Monday, 17 January 2005 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

WTF DONT MOVE HERE

It is so hot. Why?

;.....(

― Urkle-bot and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Monday, 17 January 2005 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

dude, live at the beach. wouldn't El Segundo/Manhattan/Hermosa be a pretty short commute?

no, actually, i have no idea where in LA, short-term playground, i'd actually want to live. but, while i'm not sure how safe/interesting/convenient it would be, i really love Venice.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

living in silver lake was fun but expensive... and probably the nicest hipsters in the world live there... you'd never know just by looking at them.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

of course, I see things from a NY (much less car-oriented) perspective

in Venice, you'd have a walkable neighborhood of sorts, where the streets aren't so different from the alleys. the ratty bungalows seem charming to the outside visitor. not much int he way of services right there, but there are a few streets, perhaps in walking distance, with lots of cafes and restaurants (in many cases expensive, though LA expensive is not NYC expensive), and it would be a short, easy drive to anything you need, I would think, in Marina del Rey. and lots of cafes and restaurants, though many are expensive (but not by NY standards). it's a walkable, residential neighborhood homogenous though of a very different sort.

Westwood is near the 405 and would be West-centrally located. Perhaps Westwood Village (at the entrance to lovely UCLA) would provide a lot of the walking-distance services sought by a NYer.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, and in Venice, you're not far by car (bus?) from Santa Monica's shopping and galleries, etc. while residential, it's not really a sidewalk kind of place, though.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Venice, that is

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

CLASSIC, I was driving along Sunset from Echo Park to West Hollywood on Saturday afternoon. It was warm and slightly hazy, but the light was still white, and I was listening to Phoenix with the windows down and everything was just perfect.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 January 2005 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Please tell me you were wearing shades. We could be coming down in March maybe to help a friend move into "beauty school"...

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Monday, 24 January 2005 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I was wearing silver framed blue tinted aviators.

Yes, come visit! We will attend hipster events.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 January 2005 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

You know, we really should!

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Monday, 24 January 2005 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I "knew" this lawyer chixor who lived in a house near La Cienaga and the 10 freeway in Culver City. Sweet place, with hardwood floors and a yard and a big bedroom. She was paying about 1000 per month. This was a year ago.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 24 January 2005 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

LA is cheap compared to here. Why?

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Monday, 24 January 2005 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

"knew"

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 January 2005 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

L.A. is still expensive compared to Chicago, though. My place in Chicago would cost about 200-300 less per month I bet.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 24 January 2005 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

LA is cheap compared to here. Why?

Hi Adam, a countrymate of yours, Adam Smith, postulated a few centuries that convenience (indicative to real estate) dictated free market price, i believe his specific phrase was "paying the difference out of his convenience".

The irony of this postulate is that there are far more convenience stores in LA.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 24 January 2005 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

^^^"a few centuries ago"^^^

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 24 January 2005 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Hi gygax!

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Monday, 24 January 2005 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Ada.m. (and Gygax and all other ILxors not in L.A.) you should consider President's day weekend as there may be ILX related hipster events taking place!!! Details will be forthcoming.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 January 2005 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I was driving along Sunset from Echo Park to West Hollywood on Saturday afternoon. It was warm and slightly hazy, but the light was still white, and I was listening to Phoenix with the windows down and everything was just perfect.

Sweet. This is just what I'm hoping LA will be like when I move. The part I'm dreading most about the move is arriving at LAX, renting a car, getting out my map, and basically, trying to navigate my way to some neighborhoods and check out rentals without having any sense of where I am at all. I do have a friend out there, maybe I should head to her place first before I go look at places.

― 57 7th (calstars), Monday, 24 January 2005 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I've found that living in the wrong area of L.A. can be a depressing experience. avoid North Hollywood if you can.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 24 January 2005 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks to Spencer and others on this board I've got my likely neighborhoods down to:

Echo Park
Silver Lake
Culver City
Santa Monica

― 57 7th (calstars), Monday, 24 January 2005 22:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, I grew up in North Hollywood from age 7 to about 12. Some parts of it are nice now. Where exactly are you talking about Gear?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 January 2005 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Those are all excellent choices, but there are many others too. Parts of Hollywood, Mid-Wilshire, Westwood, West L.A. are all very liveable.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 January 2005 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

And that's just a start. But the ones you mentioned are great to start with.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 January 2005 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Koreatown too. And Los feliz, which is where I live. I'm a fuckin hipster arse.

I lived near the Tujunga Park in Noho. I dunno, I prefer neighborhoods I can walk around in! actually, it's not so bad. north of a certain point, though, the SFV gets a little grimy.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 24 January 2005 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

So True. But have you been to NoBar? I walked in there and said "This is not my father's North Hollywood". Also, the nicest part is now Valley Village.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 January 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I have been to No Bar. They have NWA on the jukebox(!) Same guys who run that place run a couple of places down in Hollywood. Daddy's, I think...

When I lived there I'd walk to Iliad books and Odyssey Video. sad part is, I never made the connection between them until two years later. Damn smog fucked my brain.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 24 January 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

LOL, I *NEVER* MADE THAT CONNECTION.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

That bar has one of the biggest quality gulfs I've ever seen when comparing mid-week to weekend.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)

You will find Echo Park and Koreatown the most affordable, and Santa Monica the most expensive, followed by Culver City and Silver Lake, which is suffering the pangs of hypergentrification.

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

the bar I like the most in L.A. is probably the Cat and Fiddle, which is a great place, except on certain weekends.

If you must move to Silver Lake, I advise checking out the area around Hyperion and Rowena. It's a nice hidden neighborhood, lots of restaurants and shops and very convenient to everything.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

"This is not my father's North Hollywood"

I'm going to start saying this all the time now. I liked Los Feliz!

There was going to be an ILX-related hipster event here on President's Day but all of the talk about it fell silent. I wonder if the person in question switched venues?

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm thinking about moving to that Hyperion are myself.

Cat and Fiddle is almost always good. I've seen Morrissey there.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Hyperion area...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Ive seen Jack Osborne there.

― Juan, the Magic Don (jingleberries), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Cat & Fiddle is great for that LA schmooze but it's way expensive.

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Jack Osborne is cool!

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think Cat & Fiddle is relatively that expensive. Are you thinking of Pig and Whistle?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I was gonna say...

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks Orbit.

― 57 7th (calstars), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

No I'm comparing it to the dive bars I inhabit.

― Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I've seen Brian Dennehy, Bruno Kirby, Tori Spelling, James Van der Beek, Eddie Izzard, and Tim Burgess at the C&F. And MOrrissey twice. Last time I saw him he was entertaining some fans with card tricks(!)

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

:( u guys hate my city

― chaki in charge (chaki), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

weezer is from los angeles!

― chaki in charge (chaki), Monday, 24 January 2005 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I miss my city

― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe I'd want to live in Hollywood/Mid-Wilshire

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

for less than 1500 you can nab some sweet 1-bedrooms in that nice neighborhood just NE of Beverly/Fairfax.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 01:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I need to move to a 2 BD with hardwood floors ASAP.

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 01:52 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost
They're sweet, but you can definitely go cheaper in other neighborhoods. I live near Beverly and Fairfax (but my housemate has been here for many years and so the rent is a pretty good deal). If that rent is good for you, I have to say I really enjoy being near The Grove and Third street and Fairfax etc. Also, Beverly is a straight shot to Rossmore/Vine aves (which goes right into Hollywood) and straight to Silverlake.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

if you need tranny hoes in close proximity, live betwixt Santa Monica and Melrose to the north-south, and Highland-La Brea to the east-west.

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I saw Eddie Murphy there once!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

(Eddie, if you're googling or lurking - I KEED!)

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

You guys seem to be forgetting something: 7-11.

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

mayahee- hw floors are overrated! Very frustrating!

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I like mine! (But I secretly love carpet too!)

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

whta wax do you use? and how often?

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 02:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I use Howard Feed-N-Wax, maybe every two months. but the dust bunnies drive me nuts.

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I am painter! Painters can't have carpet! It's the rules!

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 02:50 (twenty-one years ago)

me painter too!

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, you are. *pat pat*

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I ordered the SPECIAL book.

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 04:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yay! Fun is coming your way.

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 04:16 (twenty-one years ago)

"My office is going to be in Torrance."

What about the good ol' LBC? There are some areas of that city I'd love to live in. Although not as hipsterrific as the neighborhoods most are mentioning, you wouldn't deal with a commute as bad as Silverlake -> Torrance. Do you mind how much you sit in traffic per day? If you do, I'd recommend the South Bay/Long Beach area. Hell, even Torrance has some nice Craftsman/bungalow neigborhoods that rivals anything I've seen in Silvelake/Echo Park. El Segundo is a cool little town as well - if you don't mind the airport noise. Just a few suggestions.

― kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 08:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm tellin' you! Stay on the Westside!!!

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, the eastside could be a serious commute. What are your office hours?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Of course it's all part of the L.A. experience. And there are certainly far worse commutes.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

LA and London are the only places where I have sat in traffic for over an hour at midnight on a Saturday.

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 18:33 (twenty-one years ago)

You just reminded me of the traffic reports on The Day Today!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Ada.m. (and Gygax and all other ILxors not in L.A.) you should consider President's day weekend as there may be ILX related hipster events taking place!!! Details will be forthcoming.

Oh yes? Spencer, you have to drop me a line about this posthaste since I was actually planning on my long delayed SF trip that weekend, but if you're trying to get everyone down here instead I'll rework my plans.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Things should be clearer over the next day or so.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Noted!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I will very likely not be in SF or LA for that weekend, I'm afraid. :(

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Back to Scotland?

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 18:49 (twenty-one years ago)

He's off to hibernate on the Isle of Man. All AdamRLs must do this as a matter of course.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

See that's the thing. I have no westside/eastside geography. I bought the Time Out guide to LA but everything looks so small on the map. OK, so I'll stay west, close to Torrance. Long Beach, South Bay, OK. Are my other choices of Culver City and Echo Park undoable? Santa Monica? Also I don't really care if I live in a hipster neighborhood. As long as its safe and there's a possibility of a (house) for 1500, eees OK!

― 57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Long Beach and South Bay are OK, but they are away from the "action" if that means anything to you. Culver City and Santa Monica are good because they are a semi-straight shot down the 405 or Sepulveda. Silverlake/Echo Park are pretty far North and East of Torrance and your freeway route would take you somewhat out of the direct way.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't afford to go back to Scotland!

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, you can commute to Torrance nicely from Culver City / Westside without EVER getting on the 405. Avoiding the 405 and the 110 as much as possible is U&K.

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks, a round on me when I get out there.

― 57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone know if I have to have a CA license to buy a used car in CA?

― 57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

We bought our car without having CA licenses, but you need to register for a new license within 10 days of arrival.

*cough*

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

hmmm 5 1/2 years and still with the IL plates.

"Yes I live here, it's the car that's visiting, officer..."

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

presidents day weekend is guna be nuts. ive been detained by the police at that hotel!

― chaki in charge (chaki), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

What hotel now? Did I miss something?

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

"but they are away from the "action" if that means anything to you."

57, keep in mind the commute from the South Bay area up to a watering hole in Echo Park/Silver Lake is probably 20 minutes after 8 pm. During the day, this would take around an hour (headed south). Spencer, it probably takes you still 5-10 minutes to get anywhere out of your immediate vicinity, right? Being away from the "action" is a relative term, I guess.

And the Santa Monica or Culver City commute to Torrance may seem short on the map, but you have to deal with southbound LAX traffic on the 405 - which can get bad.

"Also, you can commute to Torrance nicely from Culver City / Westside without EVER getting on the 405. Avoiding the 405 and the 110 as much as possible is U&K."

Are you talking about La Cienega down to the Inglewood area...then? Or Sepulveda? Ugh. I've found no matter how slow the freeway is moving - service streets are MUCH slower. I think as long as you can avoid the 405 north of LAX, you should be fine.

― kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

via hellicopter

― Juan, the Magic Don (jingleberries), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

What hotel now? Did I miss something?

I have a suspicion we're going to find out.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 23:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you talking about La Cienega down to the Inglewood area...then? Or Sepulveda? Ugh. I've found no matter how slow the freeway is moving - service streets are MUCH slower. I think as long as you can avoid the 405 north of LAX, you should be fine.

You can take Lincoln / Sepulveda down there often without much problem. OR you can take one of the many other routes that are quicker, but aren't as easy to map out as simply saying "the 405." You can also get on the 405 later or not at all.

I'd be very hesitant to say that the streets are MUCH slower than the slowest moments of the 405.

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Tuesday, 25 January 2005 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a suspicion we're going to find out.

I'll be in NY that weekend, but I'm still curious!

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone know if I have to have a CA license to buy a used car in CA?

I don't believe so. I think, despite what adam says, though he should know better being recently licensed, is that CA accepts other states' drivers licenses for a month, after which you are supposed to obtain a CA license. As for buying a vehicle, as long as it's registered somewhere, you should be able to drive it.

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Ada.m. (and Gygax and all other ILxors not in L.A.) you should consider President's day weekend as there may be ILX related hipster events taking place!!! Details will be forthcoming.

I'm gonna be in the mountains that weekend (weekend after Valentine's right?)... Jack Cole will be in SF that week and I am gonna treat him nice.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

La Cienega is actually faster during rush hour than the 405, but that's because it's almost a freeway. Actually, the freeway is almost always faster, but most times it doesn't *feel* that way...

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:05 (twenty-one years ago)

"in the mountains"

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Does anyone know if I have to have a CA license to buy a used car in CA?

I think depends greatly on where you buy it from. A coworker bought a used car from a dealer recently and she had to have valid CA insurance because she could drive off with the car.

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that slang for 'really high'?

xpost

mayahee, etc... has a point there.

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Should be "surface" streets on my previous post.

It just seems every time I get off the freeway due to traffic jams, I'm asking for trouble. I'm stuck at a light looking at the freeway traffic crawling steadily past. It's kind of a tortoise and the hare thing.

― kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

And having insurance is a good thing!

My main advice re: moving - move into a neighborhood where it seems like everyone has car insurance.

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

valid CA insurance

car insurance are federal policies i thought?

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that's probably right. "valid insurance," I meant.

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone once had me take La Brea (?) to the airport 'cause of a crash related jam on the 405. It was interesting.

gygax, in CA it's state law that requires every driver to have liability insurance, not the feds.

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

hahhaha!

― .ada.m. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

MW,

I totally understand but let me clarify: sure it is CA state law that you need auto insurance coverage, but it is not CA state law that you need CA state insurance coverage.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

GUYS PLEASE JUST A BIT OF FUN LETS BE COOL

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not sure why silverlake and echo park are so desireable. easy access to a couple hipster bars to the sacrifice of all else seems a ridiculous trade-off.

― lolita corpus (lolitacorpus), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

dean, remember:

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:AFWOSkv6d7QJ:www.fema.gov/kids/games/tsunami/+tsunami+fema+beach&hl=en

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Michael, you probably took La Cienega which is my route every morning.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Dean, that's what the Nazis said!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

You guys seem to be forgetting something: 9/11.

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I'm getting this meme thing!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

A tsunami has just hit FEMA Beach and has rearranged a few things. Please put the 9 objects back where they belong to see the cyber-prize!

where FEMA = ZUMA

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

you don't say

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

CA state insurance coverage.

It doesn't have to be California insurance but the policy must be valid for CA which regulates the minimum amount of personal injury and vehicle damage liability.

― Michael White (Hereward), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I would say just move to whatever neighborhood seems best. You don't necessarily want to determine where you live based on where you work.

But avoid Palmdale and Lancaster!

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

SO NOT OTM

Dude, if you have any sort of life or ambition outside of work and/or you work at the same time as other people do, you do not want to spend three hours a day in traffic.

― mayahee, mayahoo, mayaha, mayahaha (deangulberry), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I had two hours in my car every day during my high school years. IN MY DAY etc etc

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 26 January 2005 03:28 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
Hello!

― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Hi!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

It's raining here. Is it raining there?

― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Heya! It is not raining around near me.

Early March LA FAP of some sort, BTW. Be there if you can, Adam. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Early March is a busy time for me up here, with the visit of Michael Mayer and Kid Kameleon's excellent new monthly ragga/grime party The Choon Up. I may be coming down in LATE March on an exciting secret double mission!

― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

But but but I will be in NYC in late March! You must come there too, then. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Secret Double Mission!!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Interesting.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

errrrr, kind of!

― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

SDM = Sadism Dominatrix Masochism? Why adamrl, you sweet thang.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

!!!???

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

well that was unexpected

― Riot Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

recommend japanese food places...NOW:

― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

A friend of mine likes the sushi place at sunset and gower. I'm going to check it out this week.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

But I think some of the other LA-dudez have better recommendations.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

karen sushi in culver city is the shit

― Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

was the shit

post-byob less the shit than it used to be

― Who did release magic family out from the base of $499 (deangulberry), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

(where $=$100 for omakase)

URASAWA (218 N. Rodeo Dr. in teh 90210) - $$$-$$$$
Sushi RYO (6779 SanMo @ Highland in teh WHo) - $-$$

― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

LEZ GO DOOD

― Who did release magic family out from the base of $499 (deangulberry), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

hama sushi - little tokyo.

quality, but not too expensive.

― ik, Tuesday, 15 February 2005 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

yes but karen sushi has the crunchy roll, which makes me weep because of its deliciousness/

― Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Tuesday, 15 February 2005 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

DELUGE!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

there's a good sushi joint near moorpark and tujunga in studio city!

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Too bad it's probably now underwater!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

pwned by rain!

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Daichan on Ventura Blvd in Studio City = teh yum and cheap!
yah the valley is pretty flooded tonight i got fuckin soaked. im playing next monday at the roxy with METAL SKOOL if anyone wants on the guest list hit me up! :) :) :)

― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 10:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Vilayanur S. Ramachandran
03.10.05 6:30 PM
MOCA GRAND AVENUE
Vilayanur S. Ramachandran, director of the Center for Brain and Cognition and professor, psychology department and neurosciences program, UCSD, discusses the exhibition Visual Music. FREE

― youn, Tuesday, 8 March 2005 05:19 (twenty-one years ago)

great karaoke spot(which happens to have a Japanese restaraunt attached I cannot vouch for): Amagi's. on Sunset. I was there three weeks ago and this lady belted out some f'in killer blues and when I complimented her she said 'look for me on Showtime @ the Apollo next week! I won!" She wasn't on the next week and I missed the next two but I believe her.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 06:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll be in LA for about 24 hours on the last weekend in March. I'm helping with the moving in of the sister of a friend of mrs. adam who is relocating from Kentucky to attend beauty school.

― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Will you have FAPing time?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Wah, I will be in NYC then.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Will you have FAPing time?

Maybe, but not much. You may also have to enjoy the pleasure of hanging with loudmouthed Chili's waitresses.

― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I love Chili's! Should we have the FAP at one? Will we be down with a discount???

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Possibly!

― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Awesome! Blossom!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Blossom?

― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

oh man im craving an awesome blossom right now. chilis has great girly drinks!

― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Mai Tais?

― Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

http://chilis.com/images/category_images/chilis_int_menusub_ritabar.gif

― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Awesome Blossom:
http://www.hungry-girl.com/newsletters/images/onion.jpg

I just went to the one in Manhattan Beach for lunch!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I just sold my copy of The Necks' "Drive-By" to a guy in L.A., who not only was willing to pay a few extra dollars for my copy, but was also willing to pay for expedited shipping. Why didn't he just go to Amoeba? Dawp! Not that I'm complaining, of course.

― Curious George Rides a Republican (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Parking is a hassle at Amoeba!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, you might trip over a dog in the aisles.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Parking is free across the street if you buy something....

― Darius Rucker Lookalike (deangulberry), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I often go and don't buy something is the problem. Actually I'm happy with the waiting at the entrance thing now. Sometimes I'll chat with the attendant guy.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I always find parking round back or right outside.

― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

At the LA one? It's become much worse over the last 6 mos.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

t/s - stepping on a dog in the aisles inside amoeba vs. stepping in human shit outside amoeba.

― Dude, are you a 15 year old asian chick? (jingleberries), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a cruel thing to say about ex-members of Danger Danger.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

my best friend just started a weekly friday night DJ gig at Starshoes. go buy him a drink for me!

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Tuesday, 8 March 2005 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

So we just caught on to the fact that we are due to be in LA NEXT weekend, not the one after.

We're only there for Saturday night, so I decided to forgo The Secret Garden for reasons of time (It's great but Raymond talking can keep you for a few hours) and budget. So I'm thinking of trying for that Super 8 on Sunset that Mary linked to above? Unless anyone can give me a compelling reason why I shouldn't.

Feel free to hit me up with stuff going on that night. Like I said, I'll be there with Sarah and her friend and her friend's sister, but they're both new to California and LA so might be down for whatever.

Damn I wish I could stay longer. I really miss LA. Thinking of doing an extended solo trip down on the last weekend of April (the mrs. is going to OPRAH live in DENVER with her mom that weekend wtf????).

― Cantor Hymie (nordicskilla), Saturday, 12 March 2005 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

to see Oprah

― Cantor Hymie (nordicskilla), Saturday, 12 March 2005 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll be around next weekend! (But I'm not sure about end of April, I was thinking about NYC - Stevem FAP etc).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 12 March 2005 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know about the Super 8, but have you looked at The Farmer's Daughter?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 12 March 2005 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I recommend meeting stevem. If only because he is from the same clump of North London suburban sprawl that spawned me and we people stick together (though jel isn't far and I think ambrose is from Watford?).

xp Spencer don't be saucy.

― Cantor Hymie (nordicskilla), Saturday, 12 March 2005 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, it's the motel across from CBS/The Grove/Farmer's Market etc.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 12 March 2005 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, I just checked it out. Man, Sarah would love that place! I'll keep in mind for next time but for price alone I think we'll go with the Super 8, we just need somewhere to sleep for a few hours and it looks capable of providing that.

xp-I love parts of that area (Fairfax?)

― Cantor Hymie (nordicskilla), Saturday, 12 March 2005 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, Fairfax, 3rd street, you can walk to my house too. I didn't know it was pricey (didn't used to be). I always just thought it was where Price Is Right hopefuls stayed before lining up at Television City!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 12 March 2005 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

it's not pricey but Super-8 is dirt cheap! :)

― just adam (nordicskilla), Saturday, 12 March 2005 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow! I just looked into it and it is cheap! It's in a not very fancy part of town, but there's a lot of fun to be had around there. We will drink at Little Joy! I hear Gear hangs out there sometimes!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 12 March 2005 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey I was selling some LPs at the buy counter at Amoeba and I knew the guy, he's a friend of a friend. He used to work at Rhino and I said, "I haven't been there in ages" and he replied, "Yeah, me neither. I heard they closed up shop, though."

Is that true?

that IS true! great jukebox. xpost

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Saturday, 12 March 2005 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I know where this Suoer-8 is, on that weirdly sketchy stretch of Sunset right before Amoeba (if you're coming from the west)?

― just adam (nordicskilla), Saturday, 12 March 2005 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Adam, I think the one you're looking at is almost downtown!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 12 March 2005 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

It's like between Echo Park and downtown... Not really near Hollywood (but easy enough to get there if you have wheels).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 12 March 2005 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Next weekend! Hm, I was strongly thinking of making an Amoeba run up next Saturday as well -- should we try and set up a FAP of some sort? End of April I should be around though Coachella is still vaguely a factor.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 12 March 2005 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Coachella, eh? When is it exactly?

― just adam (nordicskilla), Saturday, 12 March 2005 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Very end of April/start of May.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 12 March 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

should we try and set up a FAP of some sort?

I would, but I should probably reiterate this is something of a whirlwind visit, more for the mrs to see her friend and help this girl move in. I'm a little reluctant to make any plans if only because I don't want to make any I can't keep, but if there is anything going on in the evening I was hoping that maybe we could hitch our wagon to some other fun party-wagon.

― just adam (nordicskilla), Monday, 14 March 2005 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Did you figure out where you're going to be staying? The simplest thing might just be drinks at Little Joy or something whenever you have a free hour.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 14 March 2005 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, I booked the Super 8.

I WILL be back soon, either way. Has that Basquiat show started yet? Does robotsinlove still check here?

― just adam (nordicskilla), Monday, 14 March 2005 23:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Basquiat is not til July. I've heard Robotsinlove has been busy with school.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 14 March 2005 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sorry, I feel stoopid for even posting that I am coming and now saying I might be all busy. I get excited, you see. Still hoping I can escape from the womenfolk for a few hours...

― just adam (nordicskilla), Monday, 14 March 2005 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Breakout!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 14 March 2005 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I love that song.

― just adam (nordicskilla), Monday, 14 March 2005 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Me too, I always think of a particular intersection in the valley whenever I hear it. (there was a Toys R Us there).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 14 March 2005 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

anything happening this friday? i'm going to sandiego for a saturday wedding, but staying at my mom's friday night.

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Friday nothing to my knowledge. Hmmm, though. Could almost be tempting to do something random! What do others think?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:52 (twenty-one years ago)

JaXoN, we will just miss each other!

― just adam (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i'll leave something extra special for you on the corner of Hollywood and Vine!

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I've heard that before...

― Darius Rucker Lookalike (deangulberry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Jason, what about your Star Shoes DJ friend?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Does robotsinlove still check here?
Hi Adam & Spencer! I have been really busy, but I lurk around ILX occassionally. Hopefully Ned will keep me up to speed with FAPpenings. I feel like I haven't been up to LA in forever.

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I emailed yoU!

― just adam (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Jason, what about your Star Shoes DJ friend?

GUH, HAHAH! I was just testing you spencer. you passed. durh!

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

los angeles = classic! last night was so fun i went dancing and saw such celebrities as j0hnny kn0xville, b3n l33 and sp3nc3r ch0w!

― charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

did you guys get cobra snaked!?

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

did you get their numbers, chaki?

― Darius Rucker Lookalike (deangulberry), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, I just remembered Cinespace = I was trashed!

Mark never takes my picture!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

You merry peoples. :-) So should we do something Friday night?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i was cobrasnaked last wed thats where my current "what do you look like" pic is from

― charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Awesome! I don't know if he's scared of me or if I'm not the right demographic or what. He has certainly had no problem with taking pictures of my dates.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

guh, i just found out that the dj w/the long hair at all the parties is DJ Steve Aoki Kid Millionaire, owner of Dim Mak Records, brother of model Devon Aoki, son of Rocky Aoki of Benihana's fame. fuck him with a big stick

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Runyonesque

― MVP (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost. He's an ok guy.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm sure he's cool (i think you're just standing up for him because he's a halfer), but fuck, i want money!

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah! I thought he wronged you in some way directly. Yes, he's a lucky guy, but at least he doesn't just sit on his duff and spend his money.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

adam, i'm not really sure what you're talking about because sometimes i just write whatever comes out of my head this and this isn't really a place to make sure that you correct all your grammar because this is just a messageboard and i never really was good at english anyways so eat it

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

???

― MVP (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

it was a compliment

have you SEEN my typos?

― MVP (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

haha. i know, can't you tell by my new run-on that i was kidding back

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

YOU WANNA FIGHT

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I'LL BEAT YOU DOWN LIKE IAN BROWN!

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

that is my new catchphrase

― The JaXoN 5 (JasonD), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

ILX is SO aggro today

― MVP (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I think the gloves came off yesterday.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

On the M.I.A. thread.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't want to read any more MIA threads ever again!

― MVP (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I was about to say, which MIA thread?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

keep your eye on the sparrow

― charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Chaki you'd have made one hell of a vaudevillian.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry! The Daft Punk thread

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

ROBERT BLAKE NOT GUILTY @ VAN NUYS COURTHOUSE

― charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, really? Baretta's wily ways help him escape another trap.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG, REALLY? TIME TO RIOT!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Yay! Off to get HDTVs.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

papa needs a new pair of asics

― charleston charge (chaki), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i wish I felt more like going to see the Ark tonight. But anyone I know who's a fan either lives in New York or San Francisco.

― Guitarthur and the Ecstasy Defecators (Arthur), Thursday, 17 March 2005 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

anyone know about the Digable Planets reunion show? I saw a flyer posted on a telephone wire coming out of a club(Little Temple) but I was too drunk to focus the particulars and my friend was no help. It's too far to drive back just to see the flyer and I can't find anything on the net about it.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Thursday, 17 March 2005 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

http://members.fortunecity.com/filmcity/heat/greatass.wav

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 17 March 2005 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

chaki u didnt call me last night but i heard mac and u wanted to take lucy to cinespace - u should have since i was still sick!! did u guys have the free promotional new castle? tonight there is free stoli there until 10:30 and my friend is going but i guess im too late...

tommorrow there is a free screening of Mughal-e-Azam at the writer's guild..if u like qawwalis u should come!..i'll post about it on ILM... but yea friday if any of u r into hanging out gimme a call.. i am going to a bday party in santa monica and then one in echo park but i should be free and want to see adam if he's around here ...thx!

im sooooo done w/ being sick

― special-guest appearance, Thursday, 17 March 2005 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

you all missed this!! YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED the americans i took went apeshit-wild and loved it..

tsk tsk ashamed. well it will be released theatrically next month at least here and in new york...and if u want to FAP and anyone weants to go see this, i'll take them


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
A New Restored Print of Indian Cinema's Biggest
Blockbuster of All Time Premieres March 17 in L.A.
Heralding Its U.S. Theatrical Debut in April

WHAT: 45 years after it first premiered with much
fanfare in India, K. Asif's Mughal-E-Azam (pronounced
MogelEZAM), the epic love story that introduced color
to Bollywood film spectaculars, is back and better
than ever for a new generation of film fans to enjoy.

WHY: The grandeur of the film can now be seen as the
original filmmakers always intended - in true color -
and with new wide-screen format, its classical music
in true digital surround sound and fully restored at a
cost of more than $1 million. The new version of the
film has received rave reviews and done extraordinary
business in India, successfully completing 100 days in
14 cinemas in India last year.

WHEN: 7 p.m., Thursday, March 17th, 2005

WHERE: Writers Guild of America, 135 S. Doheny Dr.,
Beverly Hills, CA 90211 Presented by the Indian Film
Festival of Los Angeles (IFFLA) Entrance on Doheny
Drive.

HOW: Tickets: $10.00. Tickets can be purchased online
at www.meraticket.com
Parking: $3.00 flat fee after 5pm opposite the WGA
Theater. Or contact us for further screenings in local
theaters in April.

Log on to
http://www.indianfilmfestival.org/events.html for more
details.

― special guest-appearance, Friday, 18 March 2005 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Next week:

Wed: Cut Copy, Wolf Mother @Boardners
Thurs: Reggaeton night at the Conga Room?? (also Stars)
Fri: Stars at Troubadour

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 18 March 2005 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

All my clothes smell like that motel now. Gross.

― Victor Mackulous (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Besides that...do you like Los Feliz or is it bad?

― Victor Mackulous (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Anybody have news on the Digable Planets thing?

― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 03:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Los Feliz is really nice, I spent the first part of my life there.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

It IS nice.

― Victor Mackulous (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I just found out that my best friend from college just got back from LA. Where he hung out with Rikki Rockett. OMGWTF.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

WED KNITTING FACTORY:
BAD DUDES/ PARTS AND LABOR/ BOOKS ON TAPE

FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE!!!!

― charleston charge (chaki), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i may be there

― you make me feel like a tyrannosaurus rex (deangulberry), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
I suppose no one is going to the tweefest that is the Math and Physics Club and Lucksmiths show tomorrow. I dare not post this on ILM, unless I already did.

― youn, Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:39 (twenty years ago)

There is nothing wrong with daring!

I like the Lucksmiths and would be happy to go to that but plans for tomorrow are in place with friends to catch Hitchhiker's.

Still, there are burblings of more FAP ideas, so we must contemplate.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:47 (twenty years ago)

im not

but

i cant wait to go to LA again

sometimes, i think, LA ,is better than london, nyc and goole, put together!

― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:48 (twenty years ago)

Yay better than Goole!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

is there a sherman oaks lido?

― charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)

http://www.poolrider.com/media/images/action/sam_gem.jpg

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

There's Lido Pizza in Van Nuys two miles over.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 April 2005 22:54 (twenty years ago)

I went to high school in Sherman Oaks!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:04 (twenty years ago)

I was in Pasadena on Sunday!

Not sure I like Pasadena, though.

― Duane Denison Cargo Hold (nordicskilla), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:06 (twenty years ago)

Oh I really like Pasadena. Next time I'll give you a tour.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)

Adam are you doing more mysterious 'here then gone' visits?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

shermn oaks rulesz!

― charleston charge (chaki), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

Adam are you doing more mysterious 'here then gone' visits?

yup

― Duane Denison Cargo Hold (nordicskilla), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

You are a thief in the night.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:18 (twenty years ago)

http://www.neighbourhoodwatch.net/local/rubery/burglar.gif

watch out, everyone...he's got a yen for flowerz

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:20 (twenty years ago)

http://www.greet2k.com/events/april_fool/enlarge/burglar.gif

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:22 (twenty years ago)

Remarkable likenesses!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 April 2005 23:23 (twenty years ago)

CROQUET CLASSIC at HOLLYHOCK HOUSE - "Pending" - fingers crossed!! - occasion for a FAP?

― youn, Friday, 29 April 2005 00:49 (twenty years ago)

i want to go to LA again.

i want to go to the valley in 1971

― charltonlido (gareth), Saturday, 7 May 2005 10:13 (twenty years ago)

That would require the mysteries of time travel.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 7 May 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

http://digital-library.csun.edu/ValleyHistory/image/1760.jpg
my hood in the 50's!

― charleston charge (chaki), Sunday, 8 May 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

this is my hood in 1922! looking east, lower right corner is Western & Franklin.

http://www.silverlake.org/HistoricPhotos/oldphotos/large_aerials/losfeliz_western.jpg

― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Sunday, 8 May 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

this is a long thread! plenty to re-read. lets add more

recommend some books about LA, fact and fiction.

i really need to pick up city of quartz again, i think

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 08:53 (twenty years ago)

i want to go to LA again.
i want to go to the valley in 1971

Sometimes I think you read my mind...
Last summer, while in L.A., I toured Topanga Canyon trying to immerse myself in the nostalgic haze of the dying culture of early 70s drop-outs. During this quest, I managed to hunt down the Trout Mask Replica house.
How I yearn for 1970-73 SoCal timelessness...

― Baaderonixx (it must be a camel) (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

yes, Yes, YES!

have you heard topanga canyon road, by the fun & games? (1968)

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

No, should I? Sounds promising.

I finally finished City of Quartz recently. Isn't there some kind of follow-up that's supposed to come out?

Gareth, I think you'd find stuff to yr liking on the Radical Urban Theory website: http://rut.com/

― Baaderonixx (it must be a camel) (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

Carey McWillimas wrote a book in the 40s about So Cal that many people say is the definitive treatment, even today. I have a copy but haven't read it.

Southern California: An Island on the Land

― nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

And it's "McWilliams" (Note to self: proofread before hitting submit, not after.)

― nickn (nickn), Wednesday, 18 May 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
GOODBYE 310! HELLO 424!

― huell howser (chaki), Thursday, 25 August 2005 03:02 (twenty years ago)

Overlay!

― nickn (nickn), Thursday, 25 August 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

This overlay business is insanity. I can't believe it will actually happen (but everyone is saying it is!).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 25 August 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Also Chaki, you won't have to say goodbye to 310, because you'll still have to enter it as part of the ELEVEN F*CKING NUMBERS required to make a call.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 25 August 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

overlay, vato.

― huell howser (chaki), Thursday, 25 August 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

That is insane. Areas with much higher population density are not requiring an OVERLAY, why us?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 25 August 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

I dont know why people are shitting their pants about this. Its an area code. BY GAWD I HAVE TO DIAL 4 MORE NUMBERS. Its not like anyone actually dials numbers anymore because of cell phones.

However, I'd be bitter if I had a 424 area code number.

― Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Thursday, 25 August 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

so instead of dialing 1-310-555-1212 like almost EVERYONE ELSE IN THE US, I now have to dial 1-424-310-555-1212. That's INSANE.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 25 August 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

or maybe I'm misunderstanding something. Who else has an overlay?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 25 August 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Wait, WTF? I haven't even heard about this. Where does it apply?

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 25 August 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

424? WTF. I remember when the change to 310 was the new weird thing...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 August 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

213 4 LIFE!!

― My life with Baaderonixx and the Choco-pops babies (Fabfunk), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

DUDES: 1-424-310-555-1212 = INSANE, WTF?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

I heard it's the Santa Monica area. I can't find specs. I thought I'd never get used to 323, but now I live there! My, how far I've come!

The news keeps saying 'Find out why you may now have to dial 11 digits to call across the street'

???

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

Spencer, maybe they're figuring everybody just uses cellphones and has to remember a number only once. (This does not explain much.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

I will f*cking go and protest. Where should I go with my "DUDE, WTF?" sign?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

Just make sure you spell "MORAN" right. Oh wait...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

http://www.rotovibe.com/images/iraq_french_hollywood.jpg

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

So is it all of the 310?

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

I think I misunderstood this. It may be ok.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

If it's like 917 then it's ok.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

But will I have to change my 310 celly #???

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

where is CHAKI to answer my queries???

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

But, but, but, AGAIN? it's just wrong dammit. I had a difficult enough time accepting the 310 jazz. Now I will probably be one of the 424ers. crap. double crap.

― Wiggy (Wiggy), Thursday, 25 August 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

According to Ch 9, it's only for new numbers starting Aug of 2006.

Existing numbers stay the same. It applies to numbers within the current 310 area code.

I also now understand what overlay means.

― rocknrolldetox (rocknrolldetox), Thursday, 25 August 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

No existing numbers will change, but you will enjoy the added finger-exercise provided by 11-digit dialing.

Unless the ATMs-and-cash-registers-only scheme works out.

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Thursday, 25 August 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

im at WORK!!! but i think its just new numbers get new 424.

― huell howser (chaki), Thursday, 25 August 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I think it just means they wont give out new 310 numbers and only do 424, but it will be the 310/424 area code.

― Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Thursday, 25 August 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

classic

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Thursday, 25 August 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

So new numbers in the 310 area will be 310-424-555-5555? So we have to remember who is in 310 and who is in 310-424 based on how recently they moved rather than where they live?

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 25 August 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

No. It's just that new numbers in the 310 geographical area will now get 424 instead. And if you want to call your friend across the street you'll have to dial 310 first even though you live in the 310 geographical area. There will be no 14 digit dialing.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 25 August 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

Oh I see. Thanks.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 25 August 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)

Thanks again to Morris Pavilion for the Shorty's hair salon tip. Kevin just gave me another great cut!!! I tipped him 85%!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 28 August 2005 00:42 (twenty years ago)

i must check it out

― huell howser (chaki), Sunday, 28 August 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

$22 if you ask for him specificially!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 28 August 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

I was going to correct my spelling, but I actually like that.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 28 August 2005 01:12 (twenty years ago)

Haha westsiders all upset over area c0de.z..

Yeah I've also been goin to Shorty's but I'm promiscuous, as I've had them all there...Shri, Kevin, Gilbert, Tony, Black Dude, etc. Kevin is okay, but for me Tony has been better...by far though the best was Korean Phil, but he got fired!! Supposedly he works at the little boutique place near the Troubadour now, and is worth seeking out

― Vichitravirya XI (Vichitravirya XI), Sunday, 28 August 2005 22:15 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
i'm not sure why silverlake and echo park are so desireable. easy access to a couple hipster bars to the sacrifice of all else seems a ridiculous trade-off.

what are the sacrifices, in terms of trade off, in regard to Echo Park?

or, to put it another way, what are the reasons to avoid living in Echo Park?

― terry lennox. (gareth), Saturday, 1 October 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

http://www.sachsreport.com/grand%20theft%20auto%20san%20andreas%20kick%20ass%20video%20game%20graphics%20los%20angeles%20LA%20ps2%20xbox%20nintendo%20console%20rockstar%20games%20whatever.jpg

― 100% Nice (nordicskilla), Saturday, 1 October 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

three weeks pass...
hi!

― knife (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

Lo.

LET IT BE KNOWN -- at least two LA peoples will be heading to SF for Veteran's Day weekend. Let FAPpage be planned.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

When/WHAT is this "Veteran's Day"?

Is Spencer really GONE? Please say no.

― knife (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

Veteran's Day in America = Armistice Day in your heathenish limey terms, I gather. Either way, it's Friday November 11.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

As for Spencer being gone -- what, you mean from ILX?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

yes

― knife (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

I think perhaps that this place isn't really for me anymore.

-- Spencer Chow (spencercho...), October 18th, 2005.

― knife (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

come back or ill start a thread!

― howell huser (chaki), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

You punkers drove him away with your crazy talk. I guess.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

I didn't do nuthin! I defended him to the end, as always.

― knife (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

Good on ya, sir. :-) Anyway, yes, Veteran's Day ILX FAPPing in SF -- start a new thread, maybe?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:05 (twenty years ago)

four weeks pass...
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― Mariana Snider, Thursday, 24 November 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

eight months pass...
Hi Angelenos,

I'm going to be in Santa Monica for two days with my mom and my sister. What family friendly things are there to do in L.A.?

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

Er, could you specify what two days these'll be?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

www.sunsetjunction.org

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

oh wait, family friendly

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.taperahmanson.com/show.asp?id=316

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

there are the museums @ exposition park

― you're killing me, larry! (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.traveltown.org/

― Jeff LeVine (Jeff LeVine), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

Golf n' Stuff!!! it was my mecca, Raging Waters just never had the charm. Seconded obv.(other than the distance--nowhere near Santa Monica)


as far as kid-friendly I took my nephew to this a couple weeks back, hurry it's ending soon:
http://www.californiasciencecenter.org/Exhibits/Weingart/superheroes/superheroes.php

it was great(greater still if you're a Marvel junkie but it's not required), and you can get it packaged with a 3-D IMAX film about the ocean deep.

btw the California Science Center is in a big park filled with other museums(African-American, Aerospace, Natural History iirc) so a full day could be made of it easily.

all these places are kind of far though, I don't know the westside too well.

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

santa monica pier

― chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

what jbr said iow xxpost

you are jbr right? I think i'm getting the hang of this ilx business

― tremendoid (tremendoid), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.joesrestaurant.com/

http://www.melsdrive-in.com/hoursandlocations/westhollywood.html

(countdown to real-Angeleno flames...)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

you are jbr right?

yep!

― you're killing me, larry! (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

closer to westside: farmer's market/the grove

― you're killing me, larry! (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

As a kid, I loved Gehry's fighter-plane exterior for the aerospace museum when my grandparents picked up my sister and I after photography class nearby and we ate foil-wrapped roast beef sandwiches outside, but is there anything special about the exposition park museums (other than jbr proximity?)? I remember rose gardens there?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

i thought farmer's market/the grove was sort of a waste of time, but i suppose it's a (mallified/tourist-filled) pedestrian area.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

santa monica farmer's market is great, tho

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

nah they're pretty outdated and cheese. xxpost

― chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

i'm just trying to come up with "family friendly" stuff -- i didn't say any of it was good!

― you're killing me, larry! (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

(and actually i like the food at the farmer's market, although none of it is the best example of that type of cuisine in los angeles.)

― you're killing me, larry! (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

the getty is nice

― chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

& free, too. ($7.00 parking/car, I think?)
La Brea Tar Pits
Griffith Park
Aquarium of the Pacific

― Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

otm re griffith park

― you're killing me, larry! (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.visitthemarina.com/index.php

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

I third the Getty, including for the view, the architecture and the current exhibits, but note that you can also walk/hike to good views from here, recommended if you like dogs and/or celebrities (but not hunting for a parking place on a hill). Just take the long/easy way up (to your left) rather than the short/hard way.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, it will be Aug 25 and 26 *mom's birthday. My family is fairly cultural, my mom is typical mom, my sister a tad yuppie-ish. She made reservations for us at the Ambrose Hotel in Santa Monica. We will also be doing family-friendly things down the whole CA coast, starting at SF. Mom's a Frank Lloyd Wright fan, so it would be nice to stop by Hollyhock House. Getty is a definite possibility. I'd like to go to the Huntington Library and my sis would like to look at bungalows. I don't know I'm asking, my sister is uber-controlling and will likely plan the whole itinerary *sob* Anyway, family-friendly restaurants?

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

on my next visit, I want to go here. nearby is maybe my favorite road that I drove on my last visit - Motor Ave in Palms.

http://www.josierestaurant.com/

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.normsrestaurants.com/

― Jeff LeVine (Jeff LeVine), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to go to Roscoe's but I can't my sister vetting that.

Is there enough to do around Santa Monica for a day (pier, 3rd st)?

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

clientele august dates:
Fri-Aug-18 San Diego, CA The Casbah
Sat-Aug-19 Los Angeles, CA Knitting Factory
Mon-Aug-21 Visalia, CA Howie and Sons
Tue-Aug-22 San Francisco, CA Café Du Nord

O if only

― youn (youn), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

Wright's Storer Residence and GM Millard House (Pasadena)

the Schindler House and Schindler in LA

Neutra's Lovell Housse

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Youn! Looks like the C; and I are traveling in opposite directions; we leave SF tues morning.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

I think you could spend a day in Santa Monica/Venice and the Getty

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

If you make it to San Diego, there's a super cool librarian at UCSD called Arwen. Plus the Star Trek like bldg.

― youn (youn), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

Mom and sis are on to SD, but I must return for first day of classes. They may also get up to some OC/Newport/Laguna Beach hijinix.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of which, is anyone going to watch the third season of LB? I thought I was through with the show, but I saw it begins again tonight, and I don't really have anything that I can think of better to do at 10 this evening.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

(me)

― Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

Venice brunch/lunch

Venice coffee/hangout

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

the Hammer - http://www.hammer.ucla.edu/ - can be slight, but has some of the more interesting contemporary stuff in town and is a pleasant building and isn't that far a drive from SM, and Westwood Village and UCLA are nice to walk around, even if the former is somewhat mallized and the latter probably deserted

also, LA River exhibit at the Skirball (maybe a little far) - http://www.calendarlive.com/galleriesandmuseums/cl-wk-museums17aug17,0,3051808.story?coll=cl-art-top-right

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

UCLA deserted at the beginning of the fall semester?

― you're killing me, larry! (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

the barney's warehouse sale at santa monica airport will be limping to a close. not many bargains, but lots of attractive people trying things on right out in the open! it's a quintessentially westside la kind of deal and i think the three of you would enjoy it.

― dan (dan), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.violetrestaurant.com/

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

go get gelato at il cono in beverly hills (santa monica blvd and beverly drive, across from the museum of tv and radio)!

― you're killing me, larry! (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

stroll down abbot kinney in venice for shopping/peoplewatching & have afternoon tea at jin patisserie.

― bijoux (bijoux), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

TRUST IN THIS ONE

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of SMA, The Hump is a very good place to eat.

Huntington Library is amazing, I stayed around the corner from there for a week earlier this summer and ended up going twice a couple of the afternoons when I could get away. If you want architecture in LA, you might be interested in the Gamble and Wrigley mansions also nearby in Pasadena.

The Getty (Bel Air) is also highly recommended.

Mary, I can't speak for the fam, but I think you'd love the MOCA downtown (Daikokuya has the best ramen in the contiguous US). Also Sawtelle (btw. SanMoBlvd and Wilshire) on the westside has a pretty funky art/shop/cafe culture (including the Giant Robot HQ and galleries).

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

skirball is 10 mins away from getty and 15 away from hammer!

― chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

sawtelle has the 'crepe nazi'

― gear (gear), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.lucques.com/
http://www.beacon-la.com/

for atmosphere and proximity more than food
http://www.thechaya.com/
http://www.cafedelreymarina.com/

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of SMA, The Hump is a very good place to eat

is that the former DC3?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

I have no idea.

Chaya's a decent chain, but if you want to spend $$$ for fusion food, go to Matsuhisa in beverly hills, he invented it.

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 23:26 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of SMA, The Hump is a very good place to eat

is that the former DC3?

no, it's not in that bldg - it's directly upstairs from typhoon. kinda pricey, but fantastic. i had some house-made white truffle ice cream there once that i still dream about.

― bijoux (bijoux), Thursday, 17 August 2006 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

LA Conservancy tours

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 17 August 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

if you want to spend low dollars on sort of fusion food, go to raku on olympic and barrington, a couple of miles east of santa monica. korean and japanese cooked by real moms. get kim chee pork, stuffed zucchini blossom, whatever the korean pancake is called, mackerel, everything there is good. cheap.

also v good on the fusion tip, and a fraction of the cost of matsuhisa, is beacon, on helms and washington (helms bakery) in newly nice culver city. get fried oysters, flank steak, black cod. worthwhile.

― dan (dan), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

this and the next night sound possibly cringeworthy, even if it's one of the best symphonies in the country, but, uh, maybe your mom would like it? and anyway, pop-gauche is sort of the point of the hollywood bowl, which elevates everything with its architecture. there's also the Smokey Robinson standards persona at the Greek, which, while not as refined architecturally, is in a more beautiful setting. another sylvan theatre has a bunch of eclectic offerings, including of the Irish flavor. in Culver City, Tim Robbins' Actors' Gang, one of the best in town, does two different Shakespeares, indoors and out. and in Pasadena, you can see Larry Fishburne and Angela Bassett do August Wilson.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

i highly recommend the museum of jurassic technology having just gone there for the first time on sunday: http://www.mjt.org , it's in venice. if you're looking for something fancy, lunch at the viceroy hotel is nice.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

NYT 36 Hours in Santa Monica (but is Rockenwagner closed now? note that Edgemar also has a Peet's coffee), and Mark Bittman reviews some of the pricier tables in town. meanwhile, for all your Britishes needs.

(xpost: my understanding is that mjt isn't right for you if you object to either blacklight or bugs?)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

Girl's Guide to LA

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 17 August 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

ummm... i don't want to say for certain that there was no blacklight, but either i don't recall it or i somehow missed that room... and also, bugs don't figure so prominently into any of the displays, and none of the bugs are alive (and most are butterflies).

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Thursday, 17 August 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

matt dear and ryan elliott are playing at the getty museum tomorrow, i think! you should go

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 17 August 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

not much of a tourist destination, and i'm guilty of recommending too close to home, but playa del rey is at least relaxing

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 17 August 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

(and i think chloe closed)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 17 August 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

Ah yes, nothing like relaxing under the screaming engines of overseas jumbojets about to touch down...

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 17 August 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

[I lived there briefly... and it sucked]

― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 17 August 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

I've fallen asleep many a time to the sound of those jets thrusting up and out over the ocean.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 17 August 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

yah playa del rey is ass. wtf gab.

― chaki (chaki), Thursday, 17 August 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not saying that anything actually happens there, i'm saying it's a decent place for a non-young person to briefly get away from it all, maybe at the beach or around ballona creek. (though it's not like santa monica and venice aren't pretty calm too, and i wouldn't recommend it during 2 days of sightseeing)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 17 August 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks for the suggestions! Ixnay on the Barneys though, I never went to their sale in 10 years in NY and I'm not about to start now--could be a good place to deposit the sister for the better part of a day though, he he.

How about Frank and Musso's or whateverer its called for birthday dinner?

― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 17 August 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

would Musso and Frank's be appropriate for a special meal? not foodwise, i'd guess. Maybe for a drink or a (tourist-heavy?) lunch? They're more high-end, but I'd consider Grace, Lucques, Spago, Campanile, Patina, the more expensive places in that Bittman article, or Valentino (the last too formal?). Joe's might be a bit informal and small (which means often fast-paced, though service is excellent) for a special meal, but it's the art of California cuisine/casual and maybe the best value in town. if an older Hollywood vibe is sought, would Le Dome be appropriate, people who actually know things? Yamashiro?! I remember felicity once mentioning The Little Door? would Axe be too adventurous? One Pico not enough (but made up for by the view)?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 18 August 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bungalowheaven.org/

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 18 August 2006 01:02 (nineteen years ago)

also depending on what you're really looking for, you might want to google chateau marmont, geisha house, or the ivy if you're looking to dine with celebrities or anything. i just entertained a guest who was pretty amused by that sort of thing. reservations suggested for all of those places, though. and even though the food is good enough to warrant going their anyway, i would suggest making reservations for the patio if you decide to go with the chateau.

― firstworldman (firstworldman), Friday, 18 August 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

musso's is good if you want old hollywood ambiance, food, and service. there's no place else like it and it's great for what it is. a lot of people love it. i think it's a shame when people with only a few days to spend in la go anywhere near hollywood blvd, but that's just me.

if i was in santa monica and wanted a place for a special birthday meal, i would go to josie for amazing food in a comfortable room where you can hear yourself talk, or the lobster for good food and an ocean view that will wow mom, or the ivy at the shore if i wanted to maybe run into al pacino. all of these places are expensive.

what kind of food do you like? do you want a scene/celebrity place, or a grown-up more food-first place?

― dan (dan), Friday, 18 August 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Musso & Franks makes an excellent martini.

― M. White (Miguelito), Friday, 18 August 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

i think it's a shame when people with only a few days to spend in la go anywhere near hollywood blvd, but that's just me.

but that's where the good thai food is!

― you want pastrami? (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 18 August 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

best shopping in LA

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 18 August 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Jonathan Gold's 99 Essential L.A. Restaurants, Summer '06

― Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Friday, 18 August 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

jody--you're right. change it to "anywhere near hollywood blvd, unless they're going east of western for thai food".

― dan (dan), Friday, 18 August 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

haha i'm going to mann's chinese theater to see snakes on a plane this afternoon

― you want pastrami? (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 18 August 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

you're a local though. you're allowed to enjoy the splendor that it is hollywood blvd.

― dan (dan), Friday, 18 August 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

No, I don't want a scene or to gaze upon the stars, but some classic Hollywood nostalgia wouldn't go amis. I wouldn't mind going to the Chateau Marmont, but I can't see it being the type of place my mom would enjoy.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 18 August 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

My sister just made reservations at the Border Grill and Ocean Avenue Seafood in S.M. Will I hate?

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 18 August 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

border grill is loud and fun and great. you can eat extremely well by sticking to the appetizer menu plus the pear/endive/jalapeno/blue cheese salad. so delicious. everything is good though. easy to order too much food.

i haven't been to ocean seafood in years. it's okay but not somewhere i'd choose. have her switch the reservation to josie!

― dan (dan), Friday, 18 August 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

magic castle

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Friday, 18 August 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

my impression is that Border Grill is very high-quality and creative enough at the margin to be relatively haute for a relatively casual place. Ocean Ave, though more elegant, seems a touch more "vernacular," food-wise, though still high quality (seafood, at least) and not completely uninteresting. the first is supposed to be loudish (=fun?). the second might be at least buzzy?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 18 August 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

i'd say consider switching to Josie, Joe's or Cafe del Rey, the last being the least overtly haute (though Asian-accented) and the nicest location of the three (but see the garden at Joe's).

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 18 August 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

It scared me that BG had a sister restaurant in Las Vegas but I guess if you guys says its okay I can't complain.

My sis just asked me how long it would take to drive to Musso Frank from Santa Monica?

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 18 August 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

The Lobster sounds like it would be a good bet. I like any kind of food, mainly unpretentious neighborhood type places, but my mom will be wanting something a bit more mainstream.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 18 August 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

or One Pico, also probably too haute (but ocean view)

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 18 August 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

LA Farm seems like it might be suitable - locals?

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 18 August 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

you can get from musso's to santa monica in half an hour at night, closer to double that during the day and early evening, even on the weekend. i'd recommend taking sunset down through beverly hills, brentwood, and pacific palisades to the ocean and making a left. give yourself an hour.

(take mom to brunch at the hotel bel-air right off of sunset! bring money! or just park and walk around. it's beautiful.)

i haven't been to la farm in years but remember lots of industry creeps and bad food. one pico is nice, but "pedals", the cafe downstairs on the boardwalk, has food from the same kitchen for much less $$$$. i'd go with that for breakfast or lunch.

― dan (dan), Friday, 18 August 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to go to soda fountain at the Beverly Hills hotel. My sis is now excited about Josie's so I have concluded I'd rather not.

― Mary (Mary), Friday, 18 August 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

architecture

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 19 August 2006 00:23 (nineteen years ago)

gabbneb, you know how to eat!

Axe strikes me less and adventurous than (much like the proprietress) rather severe. Great food though.

Border Grill has turned into a bit of a theme destination but was once actually quite "important" and the food is still very good (and goes well beyond yer basic yeller-cheese mexican). It's also LOUD AS FUCK, so fine for celebrating but not so fine for "special."

I hadn't heard about Chloe - sad, but hardly surprising.

Little Door could be quite solid for ambience.

My fave "nice" place in LA is still Campanile. No spectacle or scene, but always a good time that strikes just the right balance between formal and relaxed (which probably describes the menu well enough too). The bottle of thunderbird in the wine case would be too on the nose except that it's so perfectly on the nose...

― rogermexico (rogermexico), Saturday, 19 August 2006 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in Santa Monica. Heading to the Pier I guess. Tomorrow the Getty. What else?

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 26 August 2006 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

Sunset Junction?

― naus (Robert T), Saturday, 26 August 2006 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

huh im in LA too. anything fun happening tonite?

― phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 26 August 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

Good grief, everyone shows up and the local crew is dispersed. THAT SAID -- the good Mr. Arthur is DJing tonight over at Akbar near Sunset Junction, so off everyone goes if you can make it (alas I cannot :-( and must send my regrets).

Rah.

Arthur sez he'll be stepping aside for one hour to see Redd Kross do their thing. Not sure when he'll be on, but presumably mid to late evening.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 26 August 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

oh i need some LA public transport help. How to get from like West Hollywood to Monterey Park to catch the chinatown bus to Vegas? ugggh

― phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 26 August 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

Mary, DC is requesting you return asap. The city AND the thread!

― quincie (quincie), Saturday, 26 August 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

I mean srsly, what does LA have that DC doesn't :)

― quincie (quincie), Saturday, 26 August 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

Why, me! Well, kinda.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 26 August 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

(After all, there should be copies of me everywhere.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 26 August 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

if you're going to sunset junction, good luck finding a decent parking space. i just went out to buy some cigarettes and saw that people are already parking at sunset and silver lake blvd.

― cousin larry bundgee (bundgee), Saturday, 26 August 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

i think im going to take the red line to union station and then take a taxi to garvey/atlantic in monterey park. it looks like a straight shot on the 10. i have to be there at 7:45 am so i guess this is still rush hour? is this stupid idea? are there taxis at union station?

― phil-two (phil-two), Saturday, 26 August 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

anyone going to anti junction party downtown?

― chaki (chaki), Saturday, 26 August 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

are there taxis at union station?

Plenty, no worries there.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 26 August 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

Hi everyone! Loved the Pier. 3rd Promenade gave me the fear. Gotta go--some woman wants to use the computer. See DC crew soon! (Totally bummed can't make it to Akbar.)

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 26 August 2006 23:27 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

So sick of LA in just 2 days after being all over the rah-rah LA train.

― libcrypt, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 01:04 (eighteen years ago)

Train?

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 01:22 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, thought you were taking the Metro.

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 01:22 (eighteen years ago)

Sick of LA in just 2 days???

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 01:22 (eighteen years ago)

It's all because it's a business trip and I had to wear "business casual" which I hate, because everyone in the LA office wears slacks and nice shirts. And I have to come back a lot, like 2x a month. So not looking forward to it.

― libcrypt, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 01:29 (eighteen years ago)

What I like best about Los Angeles, CA is that I don't have to go there unless I really feel like it. I haven't yet, but there's still time. I'm in no rush.

― Aimless, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 02:01 (eighteen years ago)

xpost,

LA does take time.

― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 02:05 (eighteen years ago)

three years pass...

if you're underage (19) in LA is it just not worth thinking about trying to drink in a bar/club?

― Crackle Box, Thursday, 9 June 2011 14:38 (fourteen years ago)


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