Big Brother (UK 2005) - And then they did lez up ... : thread 2

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So Mary's gone, and the winner of the counting up task gets to be "Big Brother"... oooooh.

So how long will the lezzing carry on for, and will they show it?

(Sorry for not saying more here, but I'm still catching up!)

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

That counting task really made laugh. "What you doing? What you doing? What you doing?"

― Affectian (Affectian), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

From the BB news on Channel 4
After getting bored of a competition to see who can make themselves cry, Maxwell suggested a "see who can wee themselves first" competition.
Claiming it was something he used to do while out in Faliraki, the Londoner lay down the gauntlet.
Sam said it would make "the best TV ever" and although her and Saskia refused to compete, Anthony accepted the challenge.

The two removed their trousers and walked into the garden to take the strain.

They're not doing this right, are they H3ri?

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

how is pissing yourself a challenge?

― g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

if you're an idiot.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

nuff said, yo.

― g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

Can't they just piss on each other? not for my entertainment you understand, I do not watch this programme (much).

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Monday, 6 June 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

can't they just piss off? that way i wouldn't feel compelled to watch them. god damn.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 6 June 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

what a world.

― teeth montrose (Cozen), Monday, 6 June 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

Maybe they could hold it in to the extent that they can literally piss off by letting it out as massive jetstreams that carry them over the compound and maybe into the atmosphere?

― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Monday, 6 June 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

talking of massive jetstreams: woah, the freudian symbolism of maxwell and the big hose. "yeh, vat saskia, she's orf the 'ook. phwoaar, eh?" squirt squirt SQUIRT.

and anyone who doubted me re: the evil at the heart of lesley ... i refer you to the sub-school-bully behaviour with sam and the make-up bag.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 6 June 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

It was edited sympathetically to Sam, I feel, which is about right.

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Monday, 6 June 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

I hate the way kemal over-enunciates.

― teeth montrose (Cozen), Monday, 6 June 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

(... it's to fill out the inconsequential rubbish he's spouting and it sounds very patronising, even when the content is the opposite.)

― teeth montrose (Cozen), Monday, 6 June 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

Kemal so obviously believes his own hype, being "mature" and all that guff. Most 10 year-olds are more mature than he is.

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Monday, 6 June 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

The whole point of pissing yourself is to keep your trousers on! I would win BB.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Monday, 6 June 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

hmm. BB7 infiltrated by ilx0rs. this is almost do-able.

count me out, mind.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 6 June 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

I hate the fact that this is the first Big Brother I've decided to actually try and watch largely because the house is full of asswipes.

BUT, I will say that Lesley is a fucking munter and that bit where they showed her tits was horrible. They are all veiny and disgusting. I think that Saskia (the racist one who hates immigrants) has a big bum and is a bit rough, actually, without all the makeup.

Sam is the only one who looks stunning night and day. I have no idea who the guys aren't letching over her more and she probably wonders the same thing.

Roberto is the best of the lot cos he's a cunt and an argumentative one.

― Television Tim, Monday, 6 June 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

Today was the best episode in a week. I was seriously about to stop watching. Best of today:

Science (while smoking in bed, I might add) alleging that he had incurred "a semi" after grinding from Makosi (hot!). (+ Anyone who talks about getting a semi without a hint of irony deserves to win. Period.)

Maxwell watering the lawn (???) while talking to Craig about Saskia. Touching and surreal.

Science and Derek's "little chats." So cool. Let's make this a regular thing.

Sam's weird flipout over the makeup bag. Potentially the scariest thing so far.

― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 04:18 (twenty years ago)

Editing the highlights show to try to get a cliffhanger at the end: classic or dud?

― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 06:55 (twenty years ago)

Sam's weird flipout over the makeup bag. Potentially the scariest thing so far.

if i found myself living with someone who'd suddenly reverted to being a six-year-old playground thug, i'd probably flip out too. lesley needs shot, for the good of humankind.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 07:05 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I, too, can totally sympathise with Sam in that situation.

― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 07:10 (twenty years ago)

Well, as I predicted on the other thread I've stopped liking Lesley. I was sort of hoping I would have started liking any of the others though. The whole pranking/bullying thing is obnoxious and horrible, but it's genuinely hard to sympathise with the vain fuckers it's been happening to.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)

Against all my best intentions I couldn't help feeling ridiculously happy when Saskia was in the bathroom watching Maxwell talk about her to BB: "She is off the hook!" and she was all delighted by it. For that one supersweet moment, I'm giving Maxwell a weeks grace.

The Leslie/Sam thing at the end was a fucking horrible piece of tv. Leslie has risen to the top of my shitlist. Sam seems to be getting increasingly isolated, and while it's mostly her own fault (for trying to play the boys off against each other, and near-totally ignoring the other girls) it's never nice seeing someone bullied like that. Actually, it shocks me that these people are over 18, esp. Leslie's "I love you Sam!" in the midst of catfight [staple numbhead bitchy girl insult of every Northern secondary school of like, ever].

― Affectian (Affectian), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

I normally find myself liking pretty much everyone at this point in a series, this year's seems miserable and hostile. Maybe it's just me, though.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)

It struck me last night that the Talk Talk ads sandwiching each part of the programme are actually OK this year! I find them weirdly fascinating and not at all boring (yet).

― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

They are straightforward in style and bear repeating...

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)

I couldn't help feeling ridiculously happy when Saskia was in the bathroom watching Maxwell talk about her to BB

I just burst out laughing at the sight of the TV sliding out from behind the mirror.

― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)

ow i fucking missed it, and it sounds better than usual. but they didn't allude to the lezzing, yeah?

― N_RQ, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

yeah. You so missed it. Wow!

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

That was a FEEBLE attempt at lesbianism. Were the best bits edited out? They were covering their mouths when they were kissing - their bodies were angled away from each other. THESE ARE FAKE LEZZAS!!

GAH!

And, having only watched one show, I'm getting simultaneously drawn in and repulsed by it. Vanessa seems very dull - "addicted to chocolate" (yawn) and "can turn any gay man straight" (why do I get the feeling I've met you before, dear??).

Also - the make-up bag? wtf?

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 08:51 (twenty years ago)

vanessa thinks she can turn any gayman straight? rofl.

calum, sam is not that fit. she's kind of fit in that weird fhm type way -- ie actually quite plain. i don't get the fhm thing.

― N_RQ, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

lesley was indeed bloody awful. roberto likewise but less so. and agreed they are a more unpleasant lot than usual.

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

If Sam just swanned around talking like Zooey Deschanel enthusing about the life and works of Pirosmani and to a lesser extent Rousseau, then that would be delightful.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

I gave up watching this for a few days, it's just so unpleasant. Luckily I tuned in once more just in time to witness more of Leslie's self-loathing driven vindictivness. I hate the way if either Vanessa or craig are ever seen to say two words to Sam, Leslie syas to them "what're you talking to Sam for? You're not freinds with her now are you?" and just goes on and on until they are forced to say they hate Sam. It's beginning to slightly back-fire. Since make-up-bag-gate Kemal has gone out of his way to be nice to Sam as "it's not nice to be isolated" and Vanessa tried to distance herself from it by saying "I love to gosspip and spread gossip but not to hurt anyone".
Warming to the theme Craig then said he wants to present a Trisha-like chat show called "I'm a Bitch, What Are You Gonna do About It?".

Oh, and Ant plucking Maxwell's nipple hairs last night: [shudder].

― dm, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:05 (twenty years ago)

The whole pranking/bullying thing is obnoxious and horrible, but it's genuinely hard to sympathise with the vain fuckers it's been happening to.

agreed. it takes a lot for me to sympathise with sam. but then that was a lot of sheer unadulterated nastiness from lesley.

like i said on the other thread, i remember a lot of leslies from my childhood. i assumed these people grew up when they left school. how old is leslie now? what a fucking abomination she is.

For that one supersweet moment, I'm giving Maxwell a weeks grace.

maxell and saskia are still both knobs, but yes, i know what you mean. it was almost touching.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

Kemal completely pwned Roberto last night with their chat in the loft. Cozen and AdrianB are right about Kemal but I still like him the most. Can we kick Roberton out asap, it's so obvious that he was one of the shittier teachers at his school, with his mantra of "it's about respect." He's no more than a big lumbering ox who adds nothing, boot him out and let Derek become the proper Dad.

Oh, and is it part of the BB contract every year that after being a complete prick to someone you must go up to them and justify it with "This is me! I'm not hiding anything, I'm being REAL." Because that makes everything ok, honest it does bruv.

That lesbian scene was dismal. Far far far better was Makosi (there hasn't been much footage of her recently has there?) straddling Science, grinding up and down on him and then cajoling him for not having an instant stonk-on.

xpost, I didn't know Kemal had been acting like that toward Sam since MakeUpBagGate but that's lovely of him.

― Affectian (Affectian), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

I can’t watch those inbreeds. Mincing queens & slappers bitching about each other all day, I don’t see the fascination with it.

― not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

you clicked on the wrong thread link then

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

like i said on the other thread, i remember a lot of leslies from my childhood. i assumed these people grew up when they left school. how old is leslie now? what a fucking abomination she is.

Although deeply unpleasant, I don't think she's abnormal. She is many, and her legions roam the planet. Some are in Atomic Kitten.

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

Leslie really reminds me of my scally sister. Sadly.

― Affectian (Affectian), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and is it part of the BB contract every year that after being a complete prick to someone you must go up to them and justify it with "This is me! I'm not hiding anything, I'm being REAL."

OTM. Hiding one's dislike of someone is one of the things that sets man apart from the beasts, it makes life easier for everyone concerned and I'm apalled to see it being treated as one of the deadly sins.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)

xx-post: that's what i feared. (that there are lots of her; not that they're in atomic kitten.)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)

"Hiding one's dislike of someone is one of the things that sets man apart from the beasts, it makes life easier for everyone concerned and I'm apalled to see it being treated as one of the deadly sins."

hahahaha! yes. this should be on the ilx faq.

what shit did sam say about lesley to provoke the theft?

― N_RQ, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

Lesleh wants flicking with the end of a wet tea-towel for playground bullying - in my experience bullies always nick the thing that represents the underlying jealousy they feel towards their victim (example: functionally illiterate bully nicks textbooks/writing stuff). Shame Sam isn't clever or self-assured enough to point this out.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

they do seem to whine a lot don't they. Also way too much sound cut out whenever I tune in, are they not aware what sort of things they are not allowed to talk about?

― Ste (Fuzzy), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

Jaunty Alan, i do apologise.

I though people could voice their opinions on ILX, maybe I was wrong?

― not-goodwin (not-goodwin), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

What's the point of you posting 'I don't see the point of this' on this thread though? It's not much of an opinion, and it's hardly gonna change people's minds. As you will though...

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

xx-post: that's what i feared. (that there are lots of her; not that they're in atomic kitten.)
-- grimly fiendish (simonmai...), June 7th, 2005.

I fear Atomic Kitten for similar reasons. Would you want to share a lift with them??

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

This is me! I'm not hiding anything, I'm being REAL.

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

You go girl.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

NRQ: I don't think Sam has said anything as such, it's more a case of perceived 'dirty looks' given to other girls while wearing swimsuits.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

Leslie really reminds me of my scally sister. Sadly.

I KNEW IT.

Who lezzed up? I've not been watching.

― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

i'm starting to wonder whether sam just has one of those faces that appears to be giving a dirty look most of the time. something funny about her mouth...

― lauren (laurenp), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:31 (twenty years ago)

She does roll her eyes A LOT but OTOH I've been sacked from retail jobs for having that face!

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:35 (twenty years ago)

Barima, I'll set you up with my sis the next time you're in town. She'll eat you alive. Then burp out your little bow tie.

Les-leh lez-zed up with Vanessa, it was pitiful. Then I think Makosi joined in, then a bunch of guys. It was all jolly hockeysticks rather than a lurid XXX jizzarama.

― Affectian (Affectian), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

"It was all jolly hockeysticks rather than a lurid XXX jizzarama"

[laughs]

― Sid James, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)

Barima, I'll set you up with my sis the next time you're in town. She'll eat you alive. Then burp out your little bow tie.

This may be difficult, having recently adopted Kemal as my new fashion icon. Saris are so fucking in, darling.

― Negativa, True Believer (You know you love it when I'm dressed in drag) (Barima), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)

Re the Kamel/Roberto thing - Roberto has a good point about Kamel being "disrespectful" to his parents, by revealing his sexuality open on tv without telling them first. However, Roberto making those points in a hostile way in front of the whole group was a blunder, as it just meant he was shouted down, which he should have expected really.

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 10:14 (twenty years ago)

yes. kamal's parents must have been totes shocked.

― N_RQ, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)

I don't know what Roberto did that was so bad really.

Roberto said that Kamal's parents really ought to have known their son was gay (although to be fair they'd have to be braindead not to notice it surely?) and that parading it on national TV is maybe not the wake up call they would want. It is fair enough man, if your parents are going to be the last people to know then surely that is a bit out of order?

Sam is really pretty IMO but because she remains a braindead slapper she hasn't the intelligence to shrug off the attacks from the even more braindead slappers in the house. That she towers above every other girl in the house in terms of beauty should make her happy enough, really. Lesley is a fat munter and Vanessa is a 4/ 10 at best - I wouldn't touch either of them, or Makosi or Saskia for that matter. Huge butts never did anything for me.

So Sam is the sole bit of totty and quite a number, thinks me!

― Television Tim, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

Incidently, is Craig gay? He cannot be straight, surely?

― Television Tim, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

I think Craig is somewhat confused.

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

You can't have any sympathy for Roberto, surely Calz? He used to be a squaddie, after all.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 10:24 (twenty years ago)

Maybe he's the opposite of Kemal i.e. his parents know but he doesn't.

Makosi is the only one I would IIWS...

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

Erm, someone list what Roberto did that was bad? ta?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

apparently craig doesn't believe in labels such as "gay".

or "tedious".

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

Maybe Kamal thinks that the "my family didn't know I was gay! I don't know how they'll behave when I come out!" factor is what helped Brian Dowling win.

― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

And how marco described himself as "straight acting" last year...

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)

Roberto's crimes against humanity:

In front of most of the housemates, loudly hassling Kemal for only coming out to his parents while inside the house. Fair point maybe, but it was unnecessary to bellow this while stomping about and aggressively jabbing his finger. Oh and his argument went little further than "It is about respect, man." As Kemal pointed out, it's nothing to do with Roberto and he has no right to take the moral highground over it.

But it seems like Roberto has some deeper beef with Kemal, like when Kemal made dinner for everyone and Roberto had a tantrum about not having as much meat as everyone else, pissing off the rest of the housemates who didn't want yet another round of screaming while eating their meals.

In conclusion Roberto is a witless droning lummox who tries to stir up controversy but fails due to his lack of smarts and charm. I'm guessing this is why TT above is such a big fan.

― Affectian (Affectian), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)

Oh and who saw Craig's parents on BBLB? A real couple of horrors. Mum with a slapped-arse face threatening to scratch the eyes out of anyone who'd dare diss her little precious. His dad, a PE teacher. Nuff said.

― Affectian (Affectian), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

Ha! LATENCY ALERT (whooop! whoop!)...

I laughed when I saw Derek flattering Science: Grooming 101. Although it might be wise to avoid comments which suggest Derek might be adept at this. He reminds me of this fashion hag I used to work with called ¢ypr!4n, right down to the Toff Realness.

I don't get to watch much BB because I'm not the only watcher of telly here and Ed HATES it.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I think they are all gits in the house but at least Roberto is up for a good arguement and tells people what he thinks and he IS cooking for everyone so, hey, why the fuck complain? Ingrates.

My fave is Sam anyway, simply becoz she has great legs/ ass/ breasts

― Television Tim, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

Sam's nice enough but Makosi is way better looking, by your very criteria..

Anyway....

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

Is she the one whose father tortures babies for Robert Mugabe? White babies?

― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

It could be entirely innocent (and probably is) but I kinda find the whole Derek-takes-Science-under-his-wing thing as more than a little sleazy. I wonder if Science has noticed. Doubt it. For a would-be rapper/MC who calls himself "Science" (and I still do want to maim him for this) he's quite remarkably slow on the uptake. And BTW "It slipped" has to be the worst excuse ever.

Roberto used to be a squaddie; that explains a few things. Whilst I see his point with Kemal; it was not the best of ways to bring it up. Maybe his main problem is that he hasn't realised that the rest of the world isn't Italian.

Lezz-leh (and her scary breasts) vs Sam : it was bullying and it was out of order but it wouldn't have gone as far if Sam hadn't decided to kick off so vehemently about it. Possibly it's not just an issue of Lezz-leh's self-esteem but also Sam's; perhaps she feels thaT her physical appearance (which is not unattractive, I have to grudgingly admit) is the only thing she has going for her over the other girls ('cos let's face personality ain't her strong suit, is it?) Any threat to this perceived advantage is going to send her into a panic. i.e. "But it's got my lip gloss in!"

Saskia as BB: Well, she could have used her 3 questions to gain some real insight into her housemates rather than just as the equivalent of: "Does Maxwell fancy me?" It really does tell you where her heads's at.

Maxwell: Tosser. 'Nuff said. And the same to his Geordie-fuckin-mini-me. Get a bastard personality of your own!

Vanessa is a little trier, you have to give her that. After failing to register any real personality whatsover she does the fake lez-up with Lezz-leh just before the noms. Desperate measures for desperate times I guess. And am I the only one who finds the sound of her voice intensely irritating?

Oh yes and now I fancy Makosi even more: Not only is she gorgeous and slightly evil. She also filthy! All we need is really clever and totally fucked up and you've got my type (According to my best mate that is)

― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

What if there was gay sex - I mean male gay sex - on the show, what would the viewing public and the Sun etc make of that?

― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

A mixture of lurid fascination and outrage, I expect.

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

It'd be fascinating if it did happen. I really hope it does, I might even watch the show then!

― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

Given the options this year, it seems unlikely.

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

Dada, Makosi's dad had a high position in the Zim police which he resigned when he was asked to hassle opposition political parties for the Mugabe regime.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

Right that seals it, she gets my vote for that!

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

i'm not enjoying this BB. they're all highly unlikeable. at least in previous series there was at least one affable chap/chapette. this time they're all ugleeontheinside.com

― g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

word. i'm still hanging in there, though.

― N_RQ, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

Makosi has an afro, she looks like a less glamorous version of Pam Grier in Coffy. Afros are a turn off IMO - I'd see if I could wet her hair down, give her the Scary Spice post Spice Girls main of hair and see if that made her look better.

But Sam is definately very cute and foxy looking. She's the only one in the house I'd letch over.

Maxwell is a lad and lads ARE assholes but as I said - everyone this year is a prick, which is why it is suddenly worth watching.

― Television Tim, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

Maxwell is you.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

Only I'm not laddish in the slightest bit and I despise lad culture and the yobbish behaviour and boozing that goes with it. I rarely booze at all!

― Television Tim, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

omg

― N_RQ, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

To evict Calum, blah blah blah

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

Alliterating Arsewipe, pfft.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

Get boozed up Calum, go on, live a little

― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

Here's something for all the Makosi fans:
http://rapidshare.de/files/2076446/makosinaked.avi.html

From here:
http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=228946

― Affectian (Affectian), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

Question - if I were to go on Big Brutha would the ILX massive vote to keep me in or vote to get me out? And don't you think I'd be a good housemate?

― Television Ted, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

Shush.

I'm really hoping it's Roberto and Sam in the nominations and the producers manipulate us into booting Robbo out.

― Affectian (Affectian), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

That depends, what are your tits, arse and legs like? (xpost)

― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

Just so the Bully Bitchez get all freaked out thinking the public loves Sam (cf: that Paul guy in some old long-forgotten series of BB).

― Affectian (Affectian), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

Funny, I thought TT went in thong-first last year...

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

i'd vote to save TT. no internet in the BB house, after all.

― g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)

Hahahaha Dada :)

I'd keep you in there, C-man - too too fascinating.

― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

I'd keep him in too, to see the paranoid belief that Roberto the ex-squaddie was secretly eyeing him up come to an explosive conclusion.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

All alone? 24/7/365? Sounds about right.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

Maxwell can do Cannes instead.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

Calum should apply, it'd be interesting to watch him on BB, shorn of horror movies, and without ILX to communicate with. He could have a big shoutout to Ned as well, like Jason did with the "Victor Ebuwa!" moment last year.

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

Kemal's business is none of Roberto's business and he should have keep his nose out. But just as make-up-bag-gate has nothing to do with the make-up bag but with long-standing animosity between Lezza and Sam, so Roberto and Kemal also have a ‘history’ of arguing. Still, Roberto got told.

“Lezz-leh (and her scary breasts) vs Sam : it was bullying and it was out of order but it wouldn't have gone as far if Sam hadn't decided to kick off so vehemently about it.”

Sam wouldn’t have kicked off so vehemently if she hadn’t been repeatedly verbally attacked and bullied by Lesley since day one when Sam was making moves on Anthony who Lesley fancied. It started when Sam climbed into bed with Ant on about day 2 and Lesley exploded in a fit of pique, laying into Sam, shouting “ooh, look at me, look at me!” precisely in the same way as that awful woman off Wife Swap. Since then she hasn’t wasted a moment to throw her weight around, threatening to Sam that she is going to “gouge your eyes out” and so forth. As far as I’m aware, not one of these attacks have been shown on the main programme.

Roberto and Sam up for nomination, and Sam to get the boot on Friday. Derek might also be nommed. He’s really getting on my tits at the moment.

― dm, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

Every year madness grips me for a second or two and I think I'll audition for this and then I realise it would be a terrible fucking move.

But I might bite the bullet just to see if they let me in...

― Television Ted, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

hm, i hope they all get evicted. then shot. then they bring in some nice folks. and give them a picnic hamper.

i always used to think "ooh, wouldn't it be fun if they were all snidey, nasty, backstabbing wankers that lezzed up in like the second week, haha, that would be great telly blahblahblah".
i dare say i wasn't alone. but after watching a few highlight shows of these insufferable attention seeking cunts, i long for the BBs of (comparitively) polite conversation and innocent flirting. even Dean and his guitar ffs. these people make me weep.

― g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

i always used to think "ooh, wouldn't it be fun if they were all snidey, nasty, backstabbing wankers that lezzed up in like the second week, haha, that would be great telly blahblahblah".

Did you? And why did you?

― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Hopefully next year, they put in more "dull-but-worthy" people, alongside the extroverts to calm the house. Someone like Scott (BB4), or Dan (BB5), would leave the house more balanced, and less antagonistic.

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

because i'm a twat.

hindsight pwns.

xpost, yo

― g-kit (g-kit), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I think last year they hit on a pretty perfect balance of sympathetic types doomed to come third or thereabouts, and OMGWTF lunaticals. It revived the franchise.

On the other hand ratings for this trainwreck are big.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Nominations are supposed to be tonight, arent they?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

even Dean and his guitar ffs

dean! i loved dean. i really fucking liked him.

mind, i also really liked gos, and nobody else can even remember gos. he's a footnote on a footnote.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

I remember Gos! He did nothing but (a) cook and (b) lie on the sofa.

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

I reckon I'd be the good guy that bonds everyone together and probably ends up having the 'looker' going after him on account of my winning personality and charm.

― Television Tim, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

Would this "looker" be male or female?

― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

wood, probably.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

I liked Dean as well, a big part of that being his accent.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

DEAN WAS SECRETLY A BAD PERSON ALL ALONG

according to my friend whose sister he was rude to in a pub

― M Annoyman (Ferg), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Well, for instance, this year Sam would probably bond with me cos she needs someone to bond with. This is if I was single obv.

― Music Mick, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

wow! dean in pub brawl shockah!

or not.

[Gos] did nothing but (a) cook and (b) lie on the sofa.

a man after my own heart.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

All housemates are up for nomination, according to DS:

All twelve housemates have found themselves up for the chop this week after Vanessa broke a fundamental rule.

Yesterday's nominations session would have seen Derek and Sam going forward, with six votes a piece.

However, in a conversation which took place yesterday afternoon, Vanessa confessed to Lesley who she intended to nominate.

A statement from C4 reasoned: "Big Brother has decided that this week's nominations are null and void and ALL 12 housemates now face eviction this week."

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

VOTE LESLEY
VOTE LESLEY
VOTE LESLEY
VOTE LESLEY

etc

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

either way: lucky escape for sam. against derek, she'd be fucked. this way i'll be astonished if she goes.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Surely Sam is popular enough with the proles to have won out over Derek?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

It's still gonna be Sam. There's to many annoying people in there splitting the vote, but the hard-core voters have a vendetta against Sam.

― dm, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I suspect Sam will be voted out. I'd much rather it be Lesley or Roberto though. Or Craig. Actually no, Vanessa, she's the most unentertaining person in there.

― Affectian (Affectian), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

A good way for Endemol to increase voting revenue, while also punishing Vanessa, no?

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

They don't tell them the percentage of the vote each got when they evict people normally, do they? It'd be good if they told them who came second, third and fourth so the people who stayed in would realise how much everyone in the country hates them. I'm quite eager for Maxwell to have what a worthless cunt he is made painfully clear to him.

― M Annoyman (Ferg), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

Lesley should go. If she stays in there any longer she might make a career for herself, even though she's a pigshit thick ugly slapper.

Sam won't go, she's all you have to look at in there.

― Television Tim, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

I think Craig might be a goner now.

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

imagine being the least popular person out of 12, quite depressing for whoever it is.

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

This is so heading for Lesleh v.Sam next week. And whoever loses that is unsafe the following week.

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

kemal redeems himself slightly.

you can see lesley's old age already creeping into her face.

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

"maxwell is a secret toff!" (- the daily star)

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

not everyone can articulate their intelligence.

sam has a very wide smile.

I like that roberto didn't nominate kemal. he's kinda reflective.

science is getting annoying.

I hate craig.

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

... and the way he moves.

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

i rather like roberto.

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

i hate everyone. oh is this the big brother thread? i hate everyone.

― n_RQ, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

hmm yeah i dunno why i said i liked him. i just think he's good looking.

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

i like that science nommed derek. kemal was funny. i like this cozen/pinefox style. i don't know why.

― n_RQ, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

it's succinct and requires you to never explain yourself. perfect.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

stevem was pithy.

― n_RQ, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

oh dear! vanessa is such a fuckwit, she's currently claiming to be bisexual. like that's going to make here seem more interesting.

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

vanessa telling craig she loved him and him buying it was pathetic. why do i bother with this show? this internets? i could have done something brilliant this evening.

― n_RQ, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

it's not good enough, though. i don't know if it's me or big brother, but i don't know if i can really commit to it this year.

― n_RQ, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

OK, can I publically retract anything I may ever have said in defense of Lesley? I am very very sorry. Vanessa is more awful but perhaps less evil.

(NB this does not mean I like Sam.)

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

So what actually happened? Boyfriend incubating the zapper...

― suzy (suzy), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

Idiot Vanessa blabbed about nominating Sam to Lesley, she then got a bollocking from BB and the nominations were cancelled (after being made so we could all see where the land lies).

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

'Cos he thinks, like ,right, that, he's so, like, intelligent, right? But, like I, right, reckon I'm more intelligent than himhahahaha.

I'll be amazed if she survives, despite having the straightest head.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

Craig's reason for nominating Sam:

"She said I was camp."

WELL I NEVER.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

Lesley's reason for nominating Sam:

"She's so opinionated". That and Sam is always being horrible to her.
That's right love.

My god, Craig and Vanessa's conversations are awful.

― dm, Tuesday, 7 June 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)

My god, Craig and Vanessa~~'s conversations~~ are awful.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

A statement from C4 reasoned: "Big Brother has discovered that this year's ratings are down from last year and ALL 12 housemates now face eviction this week as we quite fancy raking in the cash from 12 phone lines being open."

I want Lesley out and for the crowd outside to actually go the whole way and tear her blubbery carcass to tiny pieces whilst shouting "CRAIG, WE'RE COMING FOR YOU NEXT FRIDAY, HOPE YOU'RE AS DELICIOUS"

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)

is the whole "real" "fake" thing these people like to accuse each other of like reality tv rockism or something?

― elwisty (elwisty), Tuesday, 7 June 2005 23:31 (twenty years ago)

Maxwell: I have lots to do! Like piss my pants.
Lesley: Why did you piss your pants?
Maxwell: Something to do.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)

Anthony has the whitest teeth I have ever seen a human have.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)

The bloody bird noises make the live stream kinda unwatchable though. WHY DO THEY DO IT WHY?

(Although weirdly this time they opened up the live late-night c4 bit with 30 seconds of silence showing the skeleton standing up next to the diary room, no housemates in sight. I kinda realised at that moment that it is my life's destiny to direct or at least watch a BB series with all the walls covered in dutch memento mori oils and using tons of blue and orange filters and shit)

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 00:08 (twenty years ago)

Maxwell: I have lots to do! Like piss my pants.
Lesley: Why did you piss your pants?
Maxwell: Something to do.
-- Gravel Puzzleworth (mostlyconnec...), June 8th, 2005.

This is hilarious.

― Television Tim, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 00:10 (twenty years ago)

Sam has this bizzarre way of eating where instead of dividing her food into small chunks she uses the time to sorta compress it before putting the whole thing in her mouth? It is bizzarely compelling. I wish I wasn't gradually falling in love with her.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 00:11 (twenty years ago)

I think more than a few lads have something that Sam might want in her mouth!!!

Geddit? Geddit?

― Television Tim, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)

I normally find myself liking pretty much everyone at this point in a series, this year's seems miserable and hostile. Maybe it's just me, though.

I still like everyone except Craig! And maybe Kemal. I wish Kemal wasn't gonna win BB6, it messes up the neat teleology whereby he he turns out alright by morphing into me in a couple of years.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)

I forgot, Craig said to Vanessa last night, with a straight face, "I think I'm the straightest man in this house".

Erm... yes.

Anybody who luvs Sam should look at her in the TalkTalk pop up when you visit the C4BB site, that should be enough to put you off.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 05:35 (twenty years ago)

Oh Lesley is so going to go.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)

This year's show is awful, just awful. Once again I tuned in last night to just get a viewing of airplane noises and bird noises, this time it was 15 minutes worth!

EVICT CHANNEL 4!

― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)

The live feed 'birds vs footy' stuff last night was stupefying.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 07:49 (twenty years ago)

> My god, Craig and Vanessa's conversations are awful.

vanessa: i've never told anyone this in my life but i'm bisexual
craig: i hope i'm not up for nomination this week

nice bit of empathy there from the only straight man in the ~~village~~ house.

lesley started the show saying that she wanted an apology from sam for stuff directly caused by her hiding sam's makeup bag.

maxwell must go. (based solely on his 3/4 length trousers)

― koogs (koogs), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 07:49 (twenty years ago)

The live feed was interesting tho because it shows why Lesley's an effective bully: the edits make it look like it's all just size and bluster, but she's sharper than those make her look, even if it's just mean cunning directed against others. She was doing a catwalk thing imitating the way other housemates walk, and it was awfully bitchy, and it was making everybody else there laugh. Once you're making the non-victims laugh, they won't read it as bullying.

The other truth about bullying - and I say this having been bullied and a bully - is that even if it sometimes starts with jealousy, it's mostly motivated by contempt. Sure Lesley was jealous of Sam initially, but I think the continued feud is driven by how weak Sam has turned out to be: Lesley at this point is bullying because she can.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 07:59 (twenty years ago)

Craig, Vanessa and Leslie were horrific in the diary room. I have completely forgiven Roberto now that he didn't nominate Kemal (C.Brooker in the Guide described Roberto as having the cartoon face of a foolish horse, I can't look at him now and not think that). If Sam is evicted and not C, L or V then it will be proof that the world is bad. Hopefully this won't happen as the CH4 shows appear to be going down a 'poor pretty bullied Sam' vs 'brutal bitch Leslie' route. And quite right too. Leslie. Must. Go.

Interesting how Anthony, Maxwell and Saskia piss away their time smacking each other with a slipper while the three (arguably) least attractive housemates bitch and plot against the others. I am astonished that Craig isn't gay.

― Affectian (Affectian), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 08:20 (twenty years ago)

Or claims he isn't, at least.

― Affectian (Affectian), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)

If I was voting this week it would be for Vanessa I think.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 08:24 (twenty years ago)

I loved how Kemal unleashed the fury in the diary room for his nominations. "I AM PUNKING HIS ASS!"

― Affectian (Affectian), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 08:25 (twenty years ago)

Well, if Craig says not, I'll believe him. That model bloke from a couple years ago proved not to be also, even though Graham Norton was like "hey I can tell" about him.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 08:25 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't his BB profile say he likes 'Fit men' or something? This isn't solid proof, of course, but it is confusing.

― Affectian (Affectian), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 08:30 (twenty years ago)

alex the model was bi, wasn't he? and craig is just very, very confused.

he's also a total twat, but that has nothing to do with his confusion, his sexuality or even his appalling haircut.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)

Wow, the number of people who nominated both Sam and Saskia...

― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)

The betting has gone really mad on BB today. Sam was a massive favourite for eviction yesterday but it would seem that the money is all on Leslie now.

Saskia is now favouite to win in loads of places.

― Davel (Davel), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

I think Saskia might win but it's very dependent on what happens with Maxwell.

Mind you it's hard to think of who else might win - I like Kemal a lot but he's a pretty one-note character.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

Lesley explains why she doesn't like Sam:

"She stinks and has got a spotty bum, I think she's mental."

OK, luv.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

professionally gay guys who go around with no actual desire to ever y'know gasp fuck a man are generally the worst ppl ever i find

― hold tight the private caller (mwah), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

Craig claimed he'd slept with women ("but I just don't feel the need to go on about it all the bloody time"). I hope the red-tops are sending a crack team out to find these mythical beasts.

― Affectian (Affectian), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

I loved the way they subtitled that bit!

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 09:56 (twenty years ago)

most of my gay friends have slept with women (one tells an astonishingly amusing story about how the only thing that got him off was the fact she had a mel gibson poster above her bed). but most of them have then had the mental capacity to make an informed decision about their sexuality, rather than flap about going: "i don't like sex".

i remember using that line myself, to cover the fact i was so appallingly inept at pulling. with craig, though, there seems to be some severe psychosexual horror going on.

derek should just give him a good seeing-to :)

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 09:58 (twenty years ago)

I would really like Craig to not be gay. It seems very unlikely.

Perhaps it is due to given Vanessa's PROVEN ABILITY to de-gay men.

Or perhaps he's pretending to be straight so she doesn't jump on him.

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

Craig may easily mostly believe he is straight. This doesn't mean we should.

What was this football/birds discussion? I avoid the live feed as much as possible, and appreciate highlights here.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)

Would you miss the football to go to something with your bird? (1934 new answers)

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

From Digitalspy:

This morning, Lesley was heard to accuse Sam of eating inappropriate amounts of chicken nuggets during one of Team Britney's now famous bitching sessions. Sam, not overly enamoured of having accusations levelled at her at high volume in the garden, told Lesley to keep her postulations to herself.

"One day you're going to have the shit knocked out of you," replied Lesley.

"Stop threatening me," replied Sam.

"If I threatened you, you'd know about it you silly little tart," Lesley sent back.

--------

This should seal Lesley's fate. Hurrah.

― Affectian (Affectian), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

oh, i hope so. i so sincerely hope so.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

i'll never understand the bully mentality.

― g-kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

it's actually quite sickening to watch. fair enough, sam is a shallow and annoying girl, but this intimidation makes me feel sick.

i didn't think lesley could turn out to be a worse person than i imagined when she went in. coo ur.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/915111

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

Oh man, the booing will be epic on Friday. I wonder if Lesley will actually end up hitting Sam. If they all get drunk and Sam makes moves on Anthony I can see it happening.

― Affectian (Affectian), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

And yeah, from her video diary I thought Lesley would be vile. But then for the first few days she didn't really do much, just moped about seeming intimidated by the slimmer girls. But now... wow. A bona fide horror.

If Saskia hadn't done that awful video diary pre-entry I'd like her a lot more now. Maybe, if she has some quiet chat with one of the smarter housemates about race relations and 'sees the light' then she'll become one of the Good Ones.

― Affectian (Affectian), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

(C.Brooker in the Guide described Roberto as having the cartoon face of a foolish horse, I can't look at him now and not think that)

It's the word "foolish" that makes this.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Sam could end up being the most beloved BB contestant ever as long as she doesn't muck it up after Lesley is inevitably voted out. You cannot help but feel sorry for her - beautiful girl, a bit of a flirt - sure - but being bullied by a fat munter mainly because she's fit.

― Television Tim, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

according to (oh, the shame) closer magazine, sam was bullied at school for having spots and no boobs. if she's having to relive some dreadful teenage experience, i feel enormously sorry for her.

her mum - the source of this information - sounds to me like a bit of a horror. the amateur psychologist in me puts most of sam's behaviour down to lack of proper maternal affection.

anyway. lesley to go on friday - i think i really am going to vote, for the first time ever - and let's hope she endures a life of misery and pain for the rest of eternity.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

actually: that's horrible. apologies. but see how she brings out the worst in me!

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

Why apologise? She deserves it.

― Television Tim, Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

If Saskia hadn't done that awful video diary pre-entry I'd like her a lot more now.

I was thinking about this on the way to work this morning. She's a beautiful (imo) woman who seems to have been generally quite pleasant (if dull) in the house. We'd be none the wiser had it not been for her telling video intro and I don't think people would be bitching about her looks half as much if the racist/xenophobe raincloud wasn't hovering over her constantly (and without follow-up yet i presume?).

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

absolutely. if it wasn't for that comment, i'd really quite like her: she's daft, but seems genuinely nice.

her clueless comments on the tape are obviously down to stupidity and ignorance. that's no excuse, but - as affectian says above - we can at least hope she'll listen, learn and change her mind. i mean, nobody is a complete write-off, eh?

except lesley, natch.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

She strikes me as your typical armchair racist who wouldn't dare say a word in front actual Blax™.

― On one hand I've got myself to blame (Lynskey), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

Reasons Sam won't become the most beloved BB contestant ever:

- she never does or says anything interesting.
- BB appeals to a bullying element in the public as much as it does to a chivalrous one; Sam is going to have to work hard to lose victim-status
- Saskia has won the public over already, assuming we don't see her dodgy views recurring

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

Yes, Lesley is an Evil Bitch From Hell, but I still maintain that she's not particularly fat.

― caitlin (caitlin), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

With some BB viewers, Saskia's views might not be a problem, let's face it.

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

BB viewers come from a pretty broad range of people types, so I guess you are correct there.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

What were Saskia's comments exactly? I saw them at the time, but just recall something like, "I'm not racist, but I'm against immigration." If someone said that to me I wouldn't want much to do with them, but I wouldn't want anything to do with anyone else in the house either, based on the things they say.

Her ignorance about how it is known to be laughable to begin a sentence with "I'm not racist but..." would be standard for Big Brother contestants in general I think. I mean, none of their opinions about 'issues' should be taken seriously. I don't think their opinions are serious parts of their lives. An exception, in this series, might be Derek, who presumably kind of agrees with what Saskia said.

I mean, the only reason to imagine she is racist, in a fuzzy and simple way, is that she chose to talk about immigration in the interview. But maybe she was asked a question about politics/immigration, and didn't bring it up herself. I don't know.

I'm not keen on Saskia, anyway, mind you.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 23:17 (twenty years ago)

Lesleh whipping her keks down for a piss while 5 people were in the Loo was a classic BB moment.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 8 June 2005 23:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm not racist, but I'm against immigration.

I can't remember her exact words, but it *was* something like "all foreigners are terrorists who want to kill us".

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 9 June 2005 06:36 (twenty years ago)

She said something like 'I'm a quarter Sri-Lankan so I'm not a racist but...' and then went on to criticise immigration. Obv these views can't be defended but I wonder what questions she was asked and what she said round about these isolated comments, those wee clips of the contestants before they go in are obviously edited to make them all look like arseholes. Most of them seem to be living up to this nicely mind you.

― mms (mms), Thursday, 9 June 2005 06:57 (twenty years ago)

If I remember, it was kind of "I don't like to generalise" snip "asylum seekers" snip ".. they want to kill us" snip "not a racist"

It sounds like she's swallowed a daily express recently...

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 9 June 2005 07:13 (twenty years ago)

I haven't seen anything by Sam that would warrant all that anti. I'm not saying it hasn't happened, I missed the 'make-up bag reaction'.

But, TelTim ahem, she won't win as she seems to have annoyed too many people inside anyway, despite the defending.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 9 June 2005 07:33 (twenty years ago)

"Yeah, the other day! Get over it!"

Finally, he does something worthwile. (fill in the name, I'm still not up to speed yet)

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 9 June 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)

omg ne1 see 'bblb' last nite? greatest thing ever.

― N_RQ, Thursday, 9 June 2005 07:52 (twenty years ago)

how long did lesle have to gawp at herself in that uniform in the mirror. ew.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 9 June 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

Please elaborate, NRQ?

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 9 June 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

the bimbo model?

― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 9 June 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

(they had a model on who was meant to be commenting on, er, something but who just didn't add anything to the conversation (not help by mary talking 30 to the dozen how she does). said conversation was about pictures that housemates had drawn before entry of their ideal men / women (or, in kemal's case, one of each))

― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 9 June 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

Alicia thingy?

"So, what do you think?"
"Um, I dunno"

That all had to be a retake with Mary, right? (She's a natural at that 'expert punditry, by the way)

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 9 June 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

(xps forthcoming)

so i ws watching the live feed yesterday (looq i like the birdsong, its like being up just before dawn drops) and while lesley ws endlessly rearranging her police sergeant outfit to give ant + max a nonchalant walk-by glimpse ("glimpse") she said something like "i'm the only one that hasnt been chatted up, i wdnt go out with them outside of here (etc) but i feel really ugly". even tho everyone crowded around after like aww no babe it did seem real for a second

they were hardly impressed when they did see her.

however trite the above - and obv its no excuse for being obnox - i'm not so sold on sam vs lesley and certainly not in terms voting out lesley as a projection stand against BULLIES OV THE WORLD AND IN PARTIC THAT ONE WHEN U WERE 11, YES HIM/HER, REMEMBER, HOW COULD I FORGET etc. none of yall would be sam's friend either

(tom's stand for sam as maintaining trad stiff upper britlip of secret contempt is a compelling cause admittedly)

― hold tight the private caller (mwah), Thursday, 9 June 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

it wasn't a retake with mary, they just shoved her on during the vt. and then the model made weird grimaces to someone off-camera. and afterwards dermot said: 'that item could have gone on for*ever*'.

― N_RQ, Thursday, 9 June 2005 08:14 (twenty years ago)

They are in danger of actually giving her a job, arent they?

(Mary, not Alicia obviously)

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 9 June 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)

I cannot believe I went to DS and looked this up, but apparently Lesleh went to Sam with Craig and made noises to 'make up' (after telling her she needs a slap a few hours before) but really just reinforced 'why nobody likes yeh, Sam' (say, Anthony/Max) which is a classic bully isolation tactic. Lesleh is also shadowing/eavesdropping on others' conversations, looking for scraps to use later. Which we've all seen at school whether or not we've ever been on the sharp end. Sam can't win against this, because if she DOES answer back, Lesleh will just play the victim.

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 9 June 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

craig and lesleh have decided vanessa is 'false'.

― N_RQ, Thursday, 9 June 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)

They should make a schools information video of her!

xpost

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 9 June 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

none of yall would be sam's friend either

no, i wouldn't. she's a nightmare.

but this isn't about lesley's treatment of sam per se; it's about what lesley's treatment of sam tells you about lesley and the kind of person she is: ie a malevolent blob of putrid misery.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)

Lesley out

this maybe the first time I have EVER actually voted for an eviction on BB, i'm quite excited.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 9 June 2005 08:34 (twenty years ago)

Lesley is 4/9 to get evicted.

That's free money, you guys.

(Disclaimer: Don't bet money you cannot afford to lose, I take no responsibility, etc)

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 9 June 2005 08:40 (twenty years ago)

NOT ADDICTED.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 9 June 2005 08:41 (twenty years ago)

bblb was mostly awesome because gothick mary, who had that awful moment when noms were announced last week and she'd been sweating in bed all day, absolutely PWNED this incredib(ly inan)e blonde in a red dress.

― n_rQ, Thursday, 9 June 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)

Mary can talk utter bollocks with complete conviction. I respect this in a person. Or a messageboard.

― elwisty (elwisty), Thursday, 9 June 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

hooray!

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 9 June 2005 08:55 (twenty years ago)

I'd like to see a bit of backbone from Sam, actually. If I were Sam I would bide my time, PUT ON SOME CLOTHES, then wait until the 30-minute window Lesleh will have where she is wearing that ridiculous Ann Summers hen night copper's outfit and is getting ready to leave. And then say whatever it will take to wind up the girl so she reacts like a fishwife, has her night ruined, and leaves the place yelling that she's going to 'get' Sam someday. At which point Sam should just blow her a kiss and wink at her.

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 9 June 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

i watched it again yesterday. what the hell am i doing with my life?

― stelf)xxxxx, Thursday, 9 June 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)

x-post: yes! superb. [mental note: never get on wrong side of suzy.]

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)

what's with this police outfit, anyway? is this lesleh trying on her eviction gear? thank fuck i'll be out on friday night and won't have to see this.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:01 (twenty years ago)

except in all the repeats. and on the day of national celebration that's organised to commemorate her public humiliation. etc.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:02 (twenty years ago)

and. Saskia is well fit, kthxbye

― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:07 (twenty years ago)

tom was right upthread when she said that lesley seems to be bullying mainly because she can. the only thing sam seems to be doing is going into the diary room and muttering, "like, they're, like, doing my head in. like, they're all, like, thickos."

my friend's five year old nephew could verbally destroy lesley. surely sam's old and bold enough to let rip with a few comebacks?

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

saskia's comments on immigration went as follows basically: she's opposed to immigration because, although she knows it's wrong to generalize, foreigners want to come here and bomb us, kill us, and call us names.

― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

the lesleh really is quite vile. i quite like sam, actually. her and roberto are the only two i don't want to set fire to at the moment, anyway, and even roberto's a bit of a prima donna. she might be a bit dull but i think she'd be the only person i'd talk to if i was in that house.

― stelf)xxxx, Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

Xpost to myself

I mean Mary's defence of Lesley was jaw droppingly daft; "she's being true to herself". Yeh, Pol Pot was only "being himself"... And all her stuff about intelligence.

― elwisty (elwisty), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

Sam might be old or bold enough but she's certainly not sharp enough. She can't even form complete sentences, ffs.

― RickyT (RickyT), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

But she's doing her best to make Television Tim happy...
http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/media/news/day13/d13_0000_strip_1.jpg

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:16 (twenty years ago)

Saskia strikes me as someone who just hasn't ever met anyone with a different shade of skin colour. Her line about how *they* "just want to kill us all, don't they?" smacks of someone who hasn't thought about it too much, just swallowed the standard Daily Mail line. I'd like to know why she came out with that, if it was prompted by BB or if she blurted it out off her own back.

If the subject of immigration/race relations does ever come up - I can imagine Kemal and Derek having smart things to say, but er, not Maxwell - it'll definitely be shown, they can't have Saskia saying that in her video and then not follow it up. And yeah, she doesn't seem too wedded to her views, I imagine she'll be all "my gosh, I was living in a world of blindness and cruelty but now I see!" and the public will AWWWW and she'll end up in the top 3. And I agree with Stevem, she is very pretty. And basically decent - when she saw Vanessa on the screen and gave a disapproving look about her Sam-tormenting.

ah whom i tryin a kid, its cos ov her big busters innit [/CRW]

― Affectian (Affectian), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

can someone explain why the Saskia / Mary fight kicked of last week? I didn't quite get why it flared up and Saskia's head wiggling was pretty unghnngh

― elwisty (elwisty), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

Lauren, Sam might well be choosing her moment (Max called Lesleh a bully in front of everyone already so the next move is up to her). I mean, none of them have any idea whether or not their conflicts are even being seen by the public due to the editing process but when they announce Lesleh's name it will be apparent that the public have noticed what she's done. Also isn't it obvious that Craig is a remora in human form and will just latch on to whoever?

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

it'll definitely be shown, they can't have Saskia saying that in her video and then not follow it up.

I love the idea of it as a plot device. Like the Bad Wolf in Doctor Who, only not shoved down your throat every 5 minutes.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

That's in reference to Saskia's nonsensical xenophobia.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

The political stuff won't come up until they're down to 7 or 8 housemates, and yes, it'll be a plot device to swing attention away from Saskia and Maxwell and keep things open.

Has anyone ever been evicted from BB for having obnoxious views?

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

I think the view of Lesley's baps is pretty obnoxious.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:26 (twenty years ago)

Thankyou Calum.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)

lesleh pissing in front of hald the house -- i was shocked. am i just hella sheltered or what? no-one batted an eyelid.

― N_RQ, Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)

There are few moments in my TV viewing lifetime when I simply cannot watch the screen and have to hide behind my hands, Tom Cruise on Oprah, the loser guy on Peep Show leaving the "I lii-ike you.." message on the girls ansaphone, all of Two Pints of Lager And A Packet Of Crisps... And now, I can add to that list: Sam's 'comedy' singing on the couches last night.

― Affectian (Affectian), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

Thankyou Calum.

You flatter him. At least I didn't use an exclamation mark ot twelve.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:33 (twenty years ago)

And why so little footage of Makosi lately?! Her performance when lay on the doctor's table, "I usually use my mouth.." was adorable.

― Affectian (Affectian), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

She's 6/1 to win. That's free money as well.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 9 June 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)

Voting leak:

Sam is closing on Lesleh, only about 3% apart now.

All the other housemates combined barely add up to 30% of the voting.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 9 June 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

More evidence that Makosi's bum is great.

Plus something for Calum to crack one off over.

NOF, hence the link.

http://img242.echo.cx/img242/1904/BB6_4live_023.jpg

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 9 June 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

Why are women more unpopular than men in Big Brother, year by year? Or is this a red herring?

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 9 June 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)

LOWER THE WORMS AND STEP AWAY FROM THE CAN

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 9 June 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)

Mmmmmmm herring.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 9 June 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

Are all of the people reckoning that "I'm not racists but all these foreigners WANT TO KILL US ALL WITH BOMBS!!!" is just a minor error of judgement, not indicative of anything, all attracted to her tits, do we think? Are there any people who are not attracted to her and think her views are nothing to worry about?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 9 June 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)

I'm not especially attracted to her. Her boobs are too big and her bum is chubby.

Sam is much fitter. If she's stripping tonight then I'm setting the VCR!!!

― Television Tim, Thursday, 9 June 2005 11:28 (twenty years ago)

i'm not attracted to her, and while i don't like her views, i can't get too wtflolomg about it. that's down to context, also the fact that those views are quite prevalent, often among people who, like saskia, have no actual problems dealing with foreigners and people of colour etc. i mean derek's views are likely to be much worse, *and* he's in a position of relative power.

― N_RQ, Thursday, 9 June 2005 11:32 (twenty years ago)

Derek is a sinister fellow. What about that drawing 'S' shapes on Makosi's feet, eh?

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 9 June 2005 11:34 (twenty years ago)

"I'm not racists but all these foreigners WANT TO KILL US ALL WITH BOMBS!!!" is just a minor error of judgement, not indicative of anything, all attracted to her tits, do we think? Are there any people who are not attracted to her and think her views are nothing to worry about?

I'm not especially attracted to her tits personally. Her nonsensical xenophobia is depressingly common and is atypical tabloid-reader attitude. Basically this country is brimming with people with the exact same attitude as her, so I wouldn't have thought expressing her views, however ignorant, on the matter are going to do her that much harm as opposed to just being boring, 'too nice' or whatever.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 9 June 2005 11:38 (twenty years ago)

Are there any people who are not attracted to her and think her views are nothing to worry about?

What n_rq said, and I find Saskia very unattractive.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 9 June 2005 11:42 (twenty years ago)

I don't think the views Saskia expressed in her video are a minor error of judgement. I think they're a major error of judgement. If I didn't find her slightly attractive I probably wouldn't be as eager for her to amend her views, I'd write her off Leslie-style. This probably reflects badly on me as a person. (tho by attractive I'm including her behaviour in the house - I don't feel she has behaved offensively to anyone in there)

― Affectian (Affectian), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)

well she didn't come out of her arguement with mary too well. imo

― elwistywell (elwisty), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

I disagree. Mary was shocking in that little spat, hissing "I don't like you! I don't like you!" Saskia took her for a chat to sort out their differences, away from the other housemates, whereas Mary would have been happy to continue with the snideness. Saskia lost her rag a little but that's understandable considering she was dealing with such an obnoxious screw-up.

― Affectian (Affectian), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

i though saskia was in the wrong in that particular argument, this bullshit 'little chat' stuff..

― N_Rq, Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

considering all the noms Derek got do you think there's loads of stuff (not the nonsense S's on feet - what Sam, SCience and Saskia? i can only nom 2!!!) that has gone under the BB editing radar?

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)

Who has been nominating him?

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

Man, you kids like your ladies to have big behinds...

― Television Tim, Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

makosi and someone else were saying that derek was well trying to influence people beyond the 's' thing...

― N_RQ, Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

Anthony nominated him, Max and Science (surprisingly) definitely did. Some others too, I think he got around 8 nominations.

― Affectian (Affectian), Thursday, 9 June 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Sam nominated him too.

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 9 June 2005 13:00 (twenty years ago)

I haven't watched this for about a week but this thread has me enthralled. Is it very wrong that I am forming judgments not on what I see, not on what the BB site relays to me, but on what everyone here is reporting?

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 June 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

yeh same here!

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Thursday, 9 June 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

igws that the threads > the show

― N_Rq, Thursday, 9 June 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

xx-post: no. this thread is far more enjoyable and informative than the programme itself, which is basically just stupid people shouting at each other.

[this space left open for joke of your choice]

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

ONE STEP CLOSER TO MY WORLD

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 June 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

basically just stupid people shouting at each other.

I really, really dislike Ultragrrl [edited title - mod]

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 June 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

oh don't worry I will be watching BB properly in the next few days due to necessity of curtailing social calendar in favour of having money and energy for Sónar next week!

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 June 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

I haven't watched any of this (I don't have a TV) and yet am hooked by these threads and the occasional shameful visit to the official site. I cannot believe I want to hit Craig and Lesleh without ever having heard them speak. Note: This thread has also made me escape permanent lurking. Dear God.

― Bill (bill), Thursday, 9 June 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

oh man. you don't ever want to her lesleh speak. believe me, you don't. an adenoidal nightmare with a really unattractive huddersfield accent, harping on about her flipflops/tits.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

I could stand it if she harped on about flipflops whimsically. Somehow, I can't see this happening.

― Bill (bill), Thursday, 9 June 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

Believe me, the fishwife comparisons for Lesley on this thread are completely accurate, Bill.

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Thursday, 9 June 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

I simply can't stand ANY of them. Brilliant telly. The only one who's gained plus points with me is Science for his drollery during the hospital stuff. I think his problem is that his accent just sounds threatening by default to the rest of the food tubes. Maybe Makosi and Vannesa as well for not being as tar-and-featherable as the others.

The whole thing is just serving to remind me how excellent and entertaining Dan was.

― On one hand I've got myself to blame (Lynskey), Thursday, 9 June 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

I can never remember anyone from the old big brothers.

which one was dan?

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

tall, bald, gay, i think

― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

oh, got it.

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

oh man. you don't ever want to her lesleh speak. believe me, you don't. an adenoidal nightmare with a really unattractive huddersfield accent, harping on about her flipflops/tits.

I sense a redundancy.

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

BWAHAHAHAHA!

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone know if Sam is gonna show some pink tonight or is it just topless fun?

― Television Tim, Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

It's all pink.

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

http://darkangel.diesa.co.uk/wallpapers/pink.jpg

(I was going to embed it but it's HUGE.)

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 9 June 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

Maxwell, forbidden from speaking, is given a chalkboard with which to communicate. He painstakingly draws a raised middle finger on it to show to Big Brother.

― M Annoyman (Ferg), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

the only thing you can say in the house is words.

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

On his first chalkboard, before he drew the finger, I was struck by how his handwriting looked like that of a barely-literate child.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

I've been away for a week. Lesley is the worst person... in the world. I want to smash her face in with a hammer. This is not like me. What is going on??

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

holy shit derek is such a cunt.

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

welcome back, alba.

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

What on Earth was just going on with Derek and Sam?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

He seemed rather threatening to Sam there. "I don't joke. Joking is not my" - um, forte? something like that.

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

But I liked his "like Saskia without the toilet, like Roberto without food" thing. I think I might dislike Max less than the rest of them, somehow. He makes me laugh.

Sam pouts like Victoria Beckham, which is a really annoying and slappable trait. However, she is not as downright obnoxious as Lesley, who really is just unbearable.

Derek's an odd one, isn't he?

(xpost x a few)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

How did Sam just take that? Why did he speak like that to her?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

I thought Roberto just shouted "Niggers!" at Makosi and Sam.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Was it just "Knickers" in a dodgy accent?

― caitlin (caitlin), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I think so.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

Dear God Vanessa is STUPID!

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

sam reminds me of sherry from twin peaks.

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

I still like Vanessa, if only because her photo makes me laugh every time I see it.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

"it's not a one in twelve chance of going out, it's a one in a half chance, or something". What ARE you talking about?

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

Didn't Maxwell's note to BB on the blackboard complaining about not being allowed to speak read "It's the only way I know how to do" or something?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

omg Lesley even managed to turn her apology into being REALLY REALLY NASTY. she's truly odious! unfortunately Sam does not make a sympathetic victim at all.

I am finding myself warming to Maxwell, eek. he was quite funny today.

I think the heat is getting to them all, mental breakdowns are surely in the very near future.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

Maxwell's board did read that, yes. Seems like Lesley to go now.

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

In normal cirumstances I wouldn't really like Sam but these are not normal times and yes, I even found myself thinking Maxwell a bit of a hero, just for being on her side.

Apparently, people now think Sam tried to poison them with a salt overdose last night.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

She should have.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

I think it's reprehensible that Lesley said to Sam, "One day someone's gonna kick your head in for the way you speak to people" (bullying, violence unacceptable, etc), and at the same time I think someone URGENTLY needs to say it to Derek.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

Can someone explain to me what prompted his psycho attack on Sam because I was kind of distracted by typing something here at the critical time.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

I note that a Lesley/Craig alliance appears to have developed. The HORROR.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 June 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

I think Derek just snapped, having spent much of the day grouching.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

Maxwell's whole diary room performance with the chalkboard was great. I think Max is the only one I would willingly spend time with at the moment (this is the only criteria I have for judging which housemates I like most).

BB's very, erm, chavtastic (since that's an officially recognised word now) this year. Giggly girliness and exhibitionism and bitchiness and stupidity are not qualities I take to in people and they're all over the place in the BB house this year.

I liked hearing Big Brother say "fuck" and "shit" when quoting Lesley back to herself.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

Derek is mental and it terrifies me that he is/has been in a position of political power.

As annoying as Maxwell and Craig are, if Lesley doesn't get near 100% of the vote there's something very wrong with this country.

― M Annoyman (Ferg), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

Is Lesley related to Lizzy Bardsley off Wife Swap, who previously held the record for the most hated woman on British TV?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

it's all very hollyoaks. big brother is where they round out the hollyoaks characters. it's best watched as a companion piece.

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

omg Lesley even managed to turn her apology into being REALLY REALLY NASTY. she's truly odious! unfortunately Sam does not make a sympathetic victim at all.

but that wasn't an apology: that was lesleh's brain slowly going clunk, clunk, fuck, might look like a cunt to millions of viewers, better try to claw something back.

"i've got men falling at my feet": yeh, love, so did medusa.

I am finding myself warming to Maxwell, eek. he was quite funny today.

thank fuck, it's not just us. mrs fiendish's rationalisation: the laddish cock(ney) maxwell who went into the house was a caricature, and the more likeable (if still astonishingly thick) maxwell we see now is the real thing. well, we can hope.

either that or it's a fascinating experiment in psychology and perception: ie how long does maxwell have to be juxtaposed with lesley before he begins to seem like a reasonable human being?

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

on previous BBs, did all the housemates start to hate each other so openly so early on? we've barely reached the end of week 2 and the levels of hatred have gone beyond last year's alliances already - there aren't any real alliances, but lots of people who really can't stand being around each other. apparently today Roberto threw food over Maxwell, Derek and Science can't speak without showing their mutual disdain, and Makosi and Science had a row over a grape.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

I think Maxwell might even win it. Just a hunch.

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

but that wasn't an apology: that was lesleh's brain slowly going clunk, clunk, fuck, might look like a cunt to millions of viewers, better try to claw something back.

and she still managed to make herself look even more odious to millions of viewers! I couldn't work out whether Sam was just ignoring the really hurtful things she was saying, or whether she was too dim to notice.

the laddish cock(ney) maxwell who went into the house was a caricature, and the more likeable (if still astonishingly thick) maxwell we see now is the real thing.

haha that's what Mary said about him too.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone else have great difficulty in following this report of their conversation? I mean, I just have no idea what anyone in it is on about. Is it because they can't string a sentence together, is it badly transcribed or am I just thick?

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

It's not just you, I genuinely like Maxwell more than the rest of them. (for reference, my favourite contestants in past series have been Anna, Dean, Alex, Scott (and Tickle) and Victor).

(xpost)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

yay dean!!

Makosi and Science had a row over a grape

no. no, please. no!

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

Is it because they can't string a sentence together, is it badly transcribed or am I just thick?

two out of three ain't bad. which leads me to mention, alba, that your sage advice is needed on the ned/glasgow thread :i~

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

Actually, Alex bullied a friend of mine at school. He's a twunt, sorry Ailsa.

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

I don't think we should rule out bullying altogether.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

No N, this girl is lovely and she told me he really made her life hell for years.

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but compared to the rest of the contestants that year (Spencer? Jade? Jonny? KATE FUCKING DIMWIT LAWLER?)

Suzy, is there anyone in the world you don't know?

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

I don't like Alex either, I'm just saying.

x-post

Spencer was fucking great and he went out with my cousin.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

Sam got topless. She has nice tits. Hopefully see more of that.

― Television Tim, Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

Spencer was tops.

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 9 June 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)

Spencer fancied Kate so was clearly a fool. I wasn't that fond of Alex, but there were so few likeable ones that year too (I quite liked Alison as well).

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:00 (twenty years ago)

Sam reminds me of Kate quite a lot. And Melanie from BB1 a bit, except she was a lot smarter.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:03 (twenty years ago)

I hated Kate and Mel maybe more than any BB contestants ever. Except Lesley.

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:05 (twenty years ago)

They should bring out a psychometric test based around which BB contestants one has hated most.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:13 (twenty years ago)

Everyone would just pick Marco surely?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

Well, not Ailsa, seemingly.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

There's a world out there, clearly.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

Who is more loathsome: Marco or Craig?

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

Craig is more loathsome than anyone else ever, surely - even worse than Lesley.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:18 (twenty years ago)

PJ was worse than anyone but Lesley and possibly Marco.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

Big Brother (UK) Contestants - Search & Destroy/Classic or Dud

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I didn't hate Mel then, or else I'd forgotten about her (latter seems more likely). She was really annoying though. I seem to have liked Spencer at one time, but obviously this was before I saw him being a tit on Celebrity Fear Factor (I'd still prefer him over any of this year's lot)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

Regular punter Ron Moody, 50, recognised her straight away when he saw her on TV.

He said: “I nearly fell off the sofa — six weeks earlier she gave me a massage for £20.”

― elwisty (elwisty), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)

Ron Moody and friends.
http://www.oscars.org/press/pressreleases/images/030407.jpg

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 9 June 2005 22:57 (twenty years ago)

Roberto is scaring me a bit. Like, Anthony just walked past and he was doing this stare like "Oh ho, so Anthony is wearing no shirt again now, and everyone thinks, Roberto, he has the cartoon face of a foolish horse. But one day! One day it will be Roberto who is wearing no shirt, oh yes..."

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:41 (twenty years ago)

What scares me is that Roberto is the same age as me. I hope I do not come across as a foolish horse.

― Alba (Alba), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

Couldn't lipreaders just translate the birdsonged bits anway? I am pretty sure by this point it is some joke taken taken way too far whereby Craig mimes some bland shit and Saskia or someone practices her whistle ventriloquism.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)

I kinda get why Craig has his stupid hair because otherwise his face would have no bony edge point and just fade disturbingly into the surrounding sofa, but the thing with this is that like perfect concentric target at which to aim punches and knives y'all.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:47 (twenty years ago)

I like N's inescapable age -> character -> anthromorphic resemblance theory. How old is Sam?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)

Didn't he have a really really shit hairstyle before coming into the house? I would like to see the pictures again again. Maxwell too, I think. In my naivety, it was only this year, and mostly through Craig, that I realised how much the housemates were made-over.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Thursday, 9 June 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

I mean, I always thought, "God, if I went on Big Brother, it would be embarrassing how few and grotty were my clothes," and it really never occurred to me how they have clothes bought and given to them by cool people.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Friday, 10 June 2005 00:09 (twenty years ago)

Derek is mental and it terrifies me that he is/has been in a position of political power.

Our local paper has been trying to support Derek on the grounds that he used to be friends with our former local MP, M1chael Br0wn, another far-right gay Tory.

― caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 10 June 2005 06:33 (twenty years ago)

holy fuck, derek's 'moment' with sam has brought me over to her side. what the fuck is up with that guy?

― N_RQ, Friday, 10 June 2005 07:25 (twenty years ago)

lesleh's talk with sam was exemplary. she wasn't all wrong: indeed the mens had shifted attention from sam to saskia a bit -- but lesleh never had any attention AT ALL. it was classic projection.

― N_RQ, Friday, 10 June 2005 07:33 (twenty years ago)

pointers for the derek/sam thing plz. i'm in catch up on DS and the c4 site...

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 10 June 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

sam was making food in the kitchen ('cooking' - ed). she asked someone to come and taste it just prior to dishing up. derek wandered over. tasting done, and food approved, she made one of those 'okay, go back to where you were' gestures, in light-hearted fashion, you know, clear the area, i'm about to dish up type material. and derek takes major umbrage and is all like 'no i WILL NOT clear the area it is OUT area how DARE YOU' and shit', and it seemed like a badly-delivered joke. bewildered sam asked 'are you joking', and he said in frank tory-esque tones, 'no, i DON't joke. joking's not my "suite" [???-ed]'. and she was all wtf.

it was freaky anyways.

― N_RQ, Friday, 10 June 2005 08:55 (twenty years ago)

it is OUR area, obv/

― N_RQ, Friday, 10 June 2005 08:56 (twenty years ago)

Gay Tories are all the rage - now we've got Alan Duncan running for the leadership!

― Vicious Cop Kills Gentle Fool (Dada), Friday, 10 June 2005 08:59 (twenty years ago)

I reckon Derek is just your classic gay misogynist/martinet. I see his like on Planet Fashion from time to time and we call them 'ooh I smell fish' boys. They think sexism is something straight men do. Sam is like a lot of girls who go into modelling: probably a bit tall and ungainly in the first terms of secondary school, insecure because of that, goes from ugly duckling to getting scouted by Storm in Top Shop but can still be made to feel ugly and awkward in five seconds flat.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:06 (twenty years ago)

before kicking off at sam, derek had also been sitting there bitching like a fucker about how bad her cooking looked. he really is a total and utter wank.

still, at least i'm not having to revise my opinion of him. unlike maxwell. for the sake of my pride, i'm rather hoping maxwell does something truly cuntish over the next few days, just so i can feel that i was right all along.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

It wasn't so much what he said as the way he said it. Really evil staring eyes, glowering at her. I thought he was joking too because it was so out of proportion in its intensity.

x-post - yes it felt like there was a whiff of gynophobia about it all to me too. But frankly who knows what's going on in his head?

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:09 (twenty years ago)

Sam just doesn't seem like the kind of woman haughty camp men would get on with, frankly. She's so much more of a lad's girl.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

i have warmed to maxwell quite a lot, also to kamal, both of whom have calmed down a bit.

sam i'm really unsure about. i have a hunch there's *something* there, but all the giggling and desperado sex-talk is putting me off.

― N_Rq, Friday, 10 June 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

thanks ppl

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

Derek does have very evil eyes.

I still don't exactly like Maxwell but I have to admit he's calmed down and is reacting well and sensibly - he often looks like the only one who's enjoying himself in the house, which is something amidst the general hostility.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

before kicking off at sam, derek had also been sitting there bitching like a fucker about how bad her cooking looked.

To be fair, her dinner did turn out to be inedible.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:17 (twenty years ago)

I just read about Derek stealing the cornflakes and then bitching to Roberto about how greedy the other house mates are. I might change my vote

I cannot believe I just typed that.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)

x-post: ooh, did it? heh, i missed that. o well.

he often looks like the only one who's enjoying himself in the house, which is something amidst the general hostility

perhaps - just perhaps - this is because he is very, very thick.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)

maxwell isn't educated, but he isn't thick. *craig* is thick.

― N_RQ, Friday, 10 June 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

They didn't show the disastrous dinner on the show last night.

The dinner

The post-mortem

There's something very endearing about women who are hopeless cooks. Mind you, I like it when they're good at cooking too. I think I just fancy women in the kitchen.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:27 (twenty years ago)

I think Sam daren't answer back to Lesleh or Derek because she's either got no idea what the public thinks or is giving them rope to hang themselves with. What sucks is that she's got no backup right now because the other housemates are, apart from Max identifying her as a bully and then letting that hang in the air, backing off from this little knot of conflict or craftily asking for updates from Lesleh, who gloats to them. I hope they make it up to Sam for fence-sitting but the public scrutiny and their own uncertainty leaves them with not much choice about that, since there is a narrative going which would eliminate Lesleh as competition.

Watch Craig attempt to become bessie mates with Sam next week.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

i really hate the way craig talks. i spent about 7 years in exile in norfolk and it's genuinely the worst accent in the world, add to that the fact that he's a total poisonous bitch and he is possible the most annoying person i've ever seen on a tv screen

― stelf)xxxxx, Friday, 10 June 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)

ok, sam's bad cooking does contextualize derek's outburst, but it was still way OTT and reminded me of being in the fucking army cadets or something. i never really criticize cooking cos i can't cook; does derek ever cook?

stelfox otm. but i want craig to stay, he is kind of amazing.

― N_RQ, Friday, 10 June 2005 09:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry, but on the evidence of Lesley, Huddersfield is clearly the worst accent in the world.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)

sam is amazingly bad at capitalizing on her situation; she doesn't really garner much sympathy. certainly everyone in my office is against her.

― N_RQ, Friday, 10 June 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)

I’ve no idea where the witch thing has come from. She never mentioned it to me

Not the kind of thing that crops up in conversations centred around "£20 for a hand job" one would think.

Derek and Roberto discussing imcome support/the benefit system last night.
"We get more in here for food and drink than people on benefits."
"Really?"
"Yes, they only get like £100 per person per week or something." (Aye fuckin dream on)
"We don't get that much."
"Yes but we don't have to feed children."
"But they get their housing paid for them."
"Um... so do we...we also get free electricity and water."
"Oh yeah..."
"Michael Portillo tried being a single mother once."

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:40 (twenty years ago)

"Michael Portillo tried being a single mother once."

Surely that was just so he could get fucked by blokes on the estate? ALLEGEDLY.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:44 (twenty years ago)

He tried it but he didn't inhale.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)

Not that I am saying single mothers all live on estates or fuck random blokes, obviously, or that Michael Portillo pretending to be a single mother should be forced into holding himself up to the fascistic single mother standards elsewhere.

http://semiskimmed.net/pix/viz_millietant.gif

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)

http://semiskimmed.net/pix/viz_millietant2.gif

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 10 June 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

Aldo, those picture of Lesleh were completely unnecessary...

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)

Best plan yet on DS is to be completely silent and turn their backs on Lesleh at the eviction. It'll be interesting to see how much taped cheering Endemol can put on that.

Interestingly, apparently there was taped booing broadcast over Mary last week.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

Ha, I thought they were going to moo instead.

― suzy (suzy), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:07 (twenty years ago)

Aldo, those picture of Lesleh were completely unnecessary...

I thought it was Tuomas :-P

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:08 (twenty years ago)

£100 per person per week on food and drink! That is an insane amount, why do they bitch about food so much? Do they have to spend it at Harrods or something?

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

They don't get £100 a week each - that was what Derek/Roberto thought people on benefits got.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)

Gay Tories are all the rage - now we've got Alan Duncan running for the leadership!

They are now - but ten years ago, my MP was most definitely in the closet, and was fired from the government when the News Of The World outed him.

― caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)

I think Abu Hamza got more than that per week!

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

I was astonished to read recently that Britons now spend an average of £97 a week each on food (Londoners £154!).

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

They don't get £100 a week each - that was what Derek/Roberto thought people on benefits got.

Indeed, Derek worked it out. Something like "They get £100 a fortnight so that's £100 per person per week."

There you have it: 100/2=100
- suddenly the Tory spending plans start to make sense.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

you get 40-odd quid on JSA but there's other benefits, so in news of the world stories the high sums are disability allowance PLUS housing benefit PLUS JSA ect ect

i don't spend anything like that and i am a londoner. i spend less than 40.

― N_RQ, Friday, 10 June 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

I used to get £80 a fortnight, without housing benefit cos I lived with ma moms and didn't payn rent. Good times.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

I don't actually believe Geest's survey. I think they are just trying to make me buy more food to keep up with my fat neighbours.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, THEY HAVE FAILED THIS WEEK. Passed the first two days but had an astonishing 6 fails on Day 3.

Given the number of fights over food, next week could be a trainwreck. They're already talking about buying food "by teams".

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

what the fuck stevem!? this is where my inner tory comes out, evidently. then again i was unemployed just last october and i got fuck all other than the JSA and whole lot of intrusion.

― N_RQ, Friday, 10 June 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)

Intrusion? I guess my Mum opening my bedroom door in the mornings with a cup of tea was pretty tough yeh.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)

They're already talking about buying food "by teams".

Roberto mentioned last night that they had scales and could divide all the food up into equal portions. That would involve someone being able to count so I don't think it will happen.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

"Londoners £154!"

this can't be an average. the average weekly wage is like £240 or something. that doesn't add up.

[the 'intrusion', just call me malcolm x, was them asking questions about my bird]

― N_RQ, Friday, 10 June 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

The average weekly wage in London is far higher than £240, even after tax.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:42 (twenty years ago)

really? fuck about, i need to get a new job.

― N_Rq, Friday, 10 June 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)

that 154 probably includes eating out at posh restaurants.

i'd be surprised if mine was 154 a month.

― koogs (koogs), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

240 a month wages is roughly 1000 a month = 17K or so before tax (based on the 17k job i had before moving here, was 1082 or something a month takehome (oh, that included pension deductions))

― koogs (koogs), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)

Average gross London weekly wage (for full-time employees) was £624.10 in 2002 (the most readily available stats I had to hand):

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/articles/labour_market_trends/Patterns_of_pay_Dec2002.pdf

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

(Table 8)

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

That £154 has to be made up. An average London family of four would spend over £600 a week on food!?

I like this thread's sudden New-Puritan tack.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

jesus i earn half the average wage.

― N_RQ, Friday, 10 June 2005 10:56 (twenty years ago)

the article said that this £97 pw on food was one fifth of the average wage - this seems to imply an average take-home of £500 pw, which seems highly unlikely, even in London (Nick's figures are for gross wages for FT employees, which is the minority). Also, £14 a day per person on food is a fucking huge amount. Might it be journalists surveying each other? Yes, my expenses-paid lunch was £10 and...

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

An average London family of four would spend over £600 a week on food!?

The Geest figures to include food bought for dependents (which is what they use to explain why people in their 40s spend the most). That M.E.N. report doesn't explain that though.

Scots splash the cash on tasty food treats

29 Mar 2005
Evening Times (Glasgow)

FOOD now accounts for almost pounds-1 in every pounds-5 spent in Scotland, new figures show.

While grocery prices may seem to be falling, the overall cost is boosted because, while consumers may want bargains, they also like to spoil themselves.

The report shows the average Briton forks out more than pounds-5000 a year on food, about a fifth of the average annual wage of pounds-26,000.

In Scotland, the average is pounds-82 a week, less than the UK total of pounds-97 a week, but that still comes to more than pounds-4250 a year.

Consumers aged in their 40s spend the most, averaging pounds-132 a week, though their supermarket bills reflect the fact they are buying for the family.

Those in aged their 20s, in contrast, spend just pounds-89 a week overall.

The research was carried out by Geest, suppliers of fresh produce.

Still.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)

Derek went apeshit at Sam for joking tellingly Roberto "you can go now", not him, and was then all 'I'm going to stand here glaring at you the whole time a foot away from you'. The mad fuck.

― M Annoyman (Ferg), Friday, 10 June 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

So that's £97 pw per family then, not per person, unless you assume most families do all their shopping individually and separately. What a useless figure.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 10 June 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

I think Maxwell likes a good argument - he's been quick to react and do the arms-spread threatening posture a lot before - so I wonder how much of his sticking up from Sam comes from wanting to protect her and how much comes from wanting a barney with somebody.

― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 10 June 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

Martin is right. It is bad reporting/press release writing to treat the gross average weekly wage for FT workers (which is indeed about £500) as being representative of actual average income. So the 1 in £5 figure is a bit meaningless. But the food spend figures seem v.high in themselves, even for people in their 20s, most (?) of whom don't have kids. I should check them against the General Household Survey official figures or something but I hate stats and I need my LUNCH.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

jesus, i'm an ethusiastic cook, eat way too much and spend about £25 a week on food. i feed other people 2/3 times a week on this, too. those figures are totally wrong.

I wonder how much of his sticking up from Sam comes from wanting to protect her and how much comes from wanting a barney with somebody.

either or is perfectly fine. i sypathise with the guy at the moment.

― stelff)xxxxx, Friday, 10 June 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

I bought two sandwiches for my lunch. I hope Geest are happy.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)

I spend quite a lot on food each week I guess. This is because

- I am fat and eat lots.
- I am a hippy and will only buy happy meat.

But it's still no way £154 per week.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 10 June 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)

The house is torn asunder.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha! Awesome.

Although, on one level I kind of don't understand why they don't do something like this from the get-go? Surely it's easier to manage food for a subgroup than for everyone?

― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

Derek and Roberto have been very clever, they've got their third between them and Craig for next week. Well done them for getting Lesleh on their 'team'.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

hahahaha if derek was on the outside he's no doubt be embroiled in EXACTLY THE SAME BULLSHIT within the tory party.

― N_RQ, Friday, 10 June 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

What do you think of this, by the way??

http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds7766.html

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

-- suzy (theartskooldisk...), June 10th, 2005.

How much of this stereotype do you think is myth-making on the part of the heterosexual community?

I like the rest of what you said, but this made me quite angry.

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

Marco x-post: Consistent with how he behaved last year and the friends he made in the house, I think. He was pretty much identical with Emma and Nadia how Craig is with Lesleh.

More interesting, perhaps, is how nobody on DS has a good word to say about him, particularly after it came out that Vanessa had been coached by him this year.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

x-post, re. the Marco thing

what, the fact that he hasn't said anything about Vanessa?

― Vicky (Vicky), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

His insights seem either OTM, or stuff I don't know/havent seen, so in general, good info.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

This also seems quite appropriate:

http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds7811.html

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

I miss Michelle.

"what are you thinking?"
"what are you thinking?"
"what are you thinking?"

BB5 - best one ever??

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

Hang on... he doesn't really criticise Lesleh, but describes Sam as "one of the most hated Big Brother contestants of all time. With her snide, vicious glares at fellow participants... she has come across as an utterly vapid and spiteful atrocity to mankind. Sam is clearly a hate figure..." This is so far off the money it's untrue.

X-post - I didn't get the full gist of what happened between Marco and Vanessa, but I think he was whoring himself out as a BB expert/consultant before the series began and she went to him for 'coaching' in how to win. Unsure whether money changed hands.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

BB5 is a summit in the history of television, if not mankind.

― N_RQ, Friday, 10 June 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

-- aldo_cowpat (aldo.cowpa...), June 10th, 2005.

An odd choice of coach. Did she not watch the last series?

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

Dunno, she can't have done. I've managed to unearth that he coached her through auditions, because he "knew what the producers wanted".

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

OK, I'll buy it. What's DS?

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

digital spy

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

BB2 will always be the best BB ever.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

i can't even remember bb2.

― N_RQ, Friday, 10 June 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

http://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2005261053,00.jpg

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

Digital Spy. Ah thanks. I was looking for this but forgot its name.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

I think the biggest "WTF" face was when Jonny came out and was shown Dustin Hoffman's impersonation of him from the Graham Norton show.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

That cartoon is factually inaccurate, as in fact Max(well) did not witness Makosi and Sam streaking and complained loudly that they were spoilsports when they refused to put on a repeat show for him.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

it's good to have you back, alba.

― N_RQ, Friday, 10 June 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

I couldn't miss BB!

Someone should give that cartoon to Lesley when she comes out. It's important that her confidence is shattered.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

(in reality of course, she will just adopt a siege mentality in the face of any ridicule, making her even more aggressive and unredeemable. Perhaps it is this feeling of hopelessness that makes me so angry when I see her)

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

It's good to have him back.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 10 June 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

in reality of course, she will just adopt a siege mentality in the face of any ridicule, making her even more aggressive and unredeemable. Perhaps it is this feeling of hopelessness that makes me so angry when I see her

I think her position is similar to that of Gollum by the end of Lord of the Rings, in that there may be some good submerged deep, deep within her, but by this stage it's in the interest of the human race that she be incinerated regardless.

― M Annoyman (Ferg), Friday, 10 June 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

Curiously, someone on the DS boards was comparing Derek in mad evil starey eyes attack mode to Gollum at the moment he turned on Frodo in a tunnel (or something - don't ask me, I've not seen the stupid film). And in the house itself, Craig told Anthony he reminded him of Gollum. Gollum is all over this series.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

Gollum = bb contestant
ring = bb prize

― @, Friday, 10 June 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

Lesley seems slightly worried by the amount of booing she could hear when her name was read out.

― caitlin (caitlin), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

I haven't watched it all week but I was on the proverbial edge of my seat just there. Craig's tears! Sam's wonky sly grin!

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

if Lesley doesn't get near 100% of the vote there's something very wrong with this country.

I can only reiterate this. That's the first time I've voted since BB1.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

the expressions on each of their faces when they heard their cheers/boos were magnificent. I felt really happy for Saskia for some reason, she was clearly expecting boos like Lesley and Sam and looked so relieved when she got cheers. the actual eviction is going to be a bit riveting.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

I do actually wish Craig had gone instead, Lesley is possibly more odious but Craig is certainly less entertaining.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

What did Derek get? I can't remember.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

(boos/cheers I mean)

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

I feel kind of sorry for Craig. I just think he's naive and v.poor at picking allies (I don't think Lesley really gives a fuck about him).

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

And his friend was quite sweet on BB Bigmouth.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

they were saying "Boo-urns"

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Makosi is so above it all (in a wonderful way). She's a queen.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

Kemal looked slightly more regal.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

Makosi is definitely my favourite now.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

Maxwell got the most cheers. Roberto and Sam also got boos but not MASSIVE BOOS like Lesley. Science got a 50-50 mixture, Saskia got cheers, I can't remember anything about anyone else.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

Craig doesn't deserve your sympathy Alba, he's a toad. Utterly charmless.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

makosi is the kramer.

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

On an unrelated note David Walliams just totally pwned Jimmy Carr on this crappy stopgap.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

David Walliams and Jimmy Carr still exist? Come back Lesley, all is forgiven.

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

Watching Craig on the live E4 feed now is hilarious. He's totally cut up and all indignant on her behalf. Going on about the viewers all being fucking twats. It's like he wants to play Hindley to her Brady, but she's not very interested.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Spectacular comparison!

Does anyone else tink Maxwell looks (or can look) quite androgynous at times? Maybe it's just the child in his eyes.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

Les could actually make quite a bit of money now portraying this PVC-clad 'bad bitch' persona to the slobbering Zoo reading dullards everywhere.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

If the voted-out housemates are made to walk through the empty house by themselves as they get voted out, it's just tempting fate for one of them to trash the place or take a dump in the middle of the floor on the way out, right?

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Well that was a kind of chilling scene. I don't know if it was all in the sound and vision mixing, but rather than being the pantomime villain exit she might have hoped for, there was just this eerie air of real hatred coming from the crowd.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

davina is a pussy.

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

well she's not afraid to grill Les as to whether she was jealous of Sam and Saskia (blatantly obvious to everyone but Les) which you might've expected Les to take real offence to.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

she takes the same mild-mannered on-side approach to inteviewing everyone.

lesley should be brought to account.

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

Davina is no good at this kind of interview. She got Lesley to admit she didn't like Saskia then broke in far too quickly with an "Is it cause you were jealous?" which let her off the hook - of course she was going to say "No of course not".

Oh god, now Davina is reinforcing her attitude with a "you say what you think" crap.

I do forget how young Lesley is, Perhaps there's hope.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

"you just say what you think" and "sometimes you need to be cruel to be kind" belong on the sister thread to my "rhetorical flourishes you despise".

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

she has put me off boobs.

― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

Me too! For this alone she deserved to go.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

high point of the interview: "Lesley, do you actually have any friends?"

― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

She looked genuinely relieved to go, I about 25% believe the usual "I wanted to go" stuff.

Davina is awful - the only time I've seen her look as if she genuinely doesn't like a housemate was poor old Kitten, and that was because Kitten was trying to directly fuck up her precious show.

I think the series is suddenly going to become a lot more like previous BBs now, a lot of the poison will have been lanced.

I have not been put off boobs.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

When Davina asked her why she thought she'd been voted out, and she said "Because I was a total bitch", for a second I was dumb enough to think she was showing self-awareness and contriteness. Then I realised that being a bitch wasn't bad in her mind. I've rarely seen anyone so (outwardly at least) so self-justifying. It feeds into her mad positive thinking about her attractiveness, her relief being evicted, everything. Did her mum raise her as a Scientologist or something?

I still don't think she really believes it all deep down, though. She can't. Or it can't last. If there is hope, it lies in the long dark night of the soul.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

Davina never really asked her to explain what she disliked about Sam (apart from her boobs not being naturally big).

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

Alba ALL BB contestants have that, you don't go on BB without a total and complete ability to self-justify anything you want. Lesley just takes it to as ghastly a conclusion as a light entertainment show can legally manage.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

Who cares if Sam's tits are fake? I'd well grope 'em!

― Television Tim, Friday, 10 June 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

Lesley just takes it to as ghastly a conclusion as a light entertainment show can legally manage.

Ha ha - you're probably right. I'm just feeling depressed about humankind again. I should go and watch Makosi on the live feed or something.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

The few seconds of the live feed after the eviction were good, they were all sitting around quite shellshocked, it's like they had Stockholm Syndrome or something.

Or of course they're all thinking, oh god, what if there's a secret bedsit and SHE'S IN IT NOW CONTROLLING OUR LIVES.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

It was strange how freaked she was by the toilet thing, and also strange how they weren't quick enough to show it to her.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

f course they're all thinking, oh god, what if there's a secret bedsit and SHE'S IN IT NOW CONTROLLING OUR LIVES.

Oh bring back Emma and Michelle in the bedsit, bring it back to me. BB5 I love you.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

The Maxwell/Anthony/Saskia axis represents everything that is fucking shit about this country.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 10 June 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

i think you could broaden that.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 10 June 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

S.A.M
A.N.A
S.T.X
K.H.W
I.O.E
A.N.L
-.Y.L

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 21:55 (twenty years ago)

Keep your Sudoku off this thread.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 10 June 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)

Max inside Anthony in Saskia ... Max up Anthony inside Saskia ... Max in Anthony on top of Saskia ... Max up Anthony inside Saskia ...

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)

I think Dom would be a prime candidate for the BB psychometric test I mooted upthread (up Saskia).

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

STX MUST GO.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Friday, 10 June 2005 22:09 (twenty years ago)

I dunno this year more than any other, I missed 3 and 4 out though, BB seems to be presenting some very archetypical Britain 2005 stereotypes. Possibly from the Daily Mail hive mind or something.

― elwisty (elwisty), Friday, 10 June 2005 22:30 (twenty years ago)

hey why did the lesley thread get locked? teletim is by the far the poster ive seen on ile.

― sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 10 June 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

by far the poster?

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 10 June 2005 22:35 (twenty years ago)

"best poster" i meant.

― sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 10 June 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

he's the poster boy of ilx

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 10 June 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

the poster with the moster?

― elwisty (elwisty), Friday, 10 June 2005 22:41 (twenty years ago)

check the state of Anthony's boots.

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 10 June 2005 23:32 (twenty years ago)

black shirt plus beige cuban heel boots?

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 10 June 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

Ah - the little seen Cuban Nazi chic.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 10 June 2005 23:37 (twenty years ago)

total newcastle!

― jed_ (jed), Friday, 10 June 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)

Your former ILX operative on the ground notes that Lesley is rediculously pretty and a completely different shape up close and in person.

― Referral monster (noodles is a cunt), Friday, 10 June 2005 23:52 (twenty years ago)

hey why did the lesley thread get locked?

Well Calum... see, take my hand... no, I'm not being funny... I like you Calum, I really do... but when you first came in here right, you was getting all the attention from Ned and Nick right... and now you're not... so I think that could be a reason why you're feeling so insecure. I mean I have other posters falling at my feet on other boards, I couldn't give a shit about all them lot here, I know I'm brilliant. But, you know, you...

I LUV YOU CALUM!

― Lesleh (aldo_cowpat), Saturday, 11 June 2005 05:16 (twenty years ago)

Davina is awful - the only time I've seen her look as if she genuinely doesn't like a housemate was poor old Kitten, and that was because Kitten was trying to directly fuck up her precious show.

I feel I must defend Davina here. The post-eviction interview is quite difficult. It's a live television interview in front of baying hordes with someone who has no experience of being interviewed on telly and probably no desire to sit there and be interviewed at all. I don't think going after them in a Paxman stylee is going to add anything. Plus which, I think the post-eviction interview is supposed to elicit sympathy for the person so that it's slightly safer for them to go out on the streets again.

Also, what's the point in trying to tackle someone like Lesley about anything at all? She is, as everyone has said, utterly stupid.

My problem with all of them this year is that they're too stupid, so nothing they do or say is funny or interesting. Even listening to Derek with his stupid fucking quiz game (why did the others sit still and subject themselves to that?) "no, she said let them eat bread". Derek, are you sure? Gobshite. And there wasn't one person there who contradicted him.

I'm only watching it so that someone can say "Derek, I'm not being racist or homophobic, you're just a cunt."

Back to lurking.

― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 11 June 2005 07:02 (twenty years ago)

ha ha, i totally added that myself! Derek was saying "oh i KNOW i'm not going to win - there are so many barriers: i'm a tory, and black and gay" - when "and a cunt" was yelled at the screen by all saddos watching the live feed at 12:30 in the morning.

i wish my clever rhetoric wasn't so misogynistic. like Derek. oh the irony.

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Saturday, 11 June 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)

Max urges Craig to quit Sam-hating

Filed: 03:36, Day 16 by Neil Wilkes

Max has taken Craig to task over his constant bitching about Sam.

The hairdresser appears to have ramped up his abuse since Lesley left the house on Friday night.

"The wrong person went tonight," he announced to the group, adding: "Sam, let's put it this way, it shouldn't have been Lesley."

Later on, when Sam had left the room, he alleged: "I've worked with people with mental problems and she has got split personality disorder."

A disapproving Max encouraged Craig to turn a new leaf now that his partner-in-crime has left the building.

"You and Lesley didn't like her, but now fucking Lesley's gone and you ain't going to be able to bitch with her, try to fucking get on with the bird," he advised. "Honestly mate, bite your fucking lip cos she's in here with no-one."

http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds7823.html

"I've worked with people with mental problems and she has got split personality disorder." - ha ha.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 June 2005 09:53 (twenty years ago)

Derek pays tribute to "crusader" Lesley

Filed: 02:35, Day 16 by Neil Wilkes

Derek laid a verbal wreath in Lesley's honour tonight as the group began to wind down after her departure.

"What was actually lost in this house [tonight] was a good crusader," he told Makosi and Roberto. "Not frightened of her own views and beliefs, [which] is always to be admired."

He continued: "Any Christian would know that because that's exactly what Jesus had to do, when everybody around him was doubting him."

Just moments after his touching tribute he asked: "Can I use part of her drawer?"

http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds7821.html

Dear God.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 June 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)

A while later, Craig randomly asked aloud "Oh Lesley, why are you gone?

A Diana-like cult building up around Lesley is just too fantastic.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 June 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

I can't say I saw comparisons to Jesus coming. That split personality line is fantastic.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 11 June 2005 10:10 (twenty years ago)

"Can I use part of her drawer?"

hahaaha!

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 11 June 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

Choice snippet from the http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/news/newsstory.jsp?id=351

When you were in the House you talked a lot about your breasts, did you want to be in Big Brother to get fame become a topless model?

No, not at all! I'm proud of my breasts because there are not many who have got my size who didn't have a boob job. So I do share them a lot, not because I think they are my best asset because I think my eyes is my best asset.

So we not going to see a lot more of them now when you're out of the House?

No, I don't think so.

If you were offered topless modelling jobs, would you do it?

I don't know.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 June 2005 10:27 (twenty years ago)

From the press conference, that should read.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 June 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)

Is it true that you didn't fancy anyone in the House?

Yes, it's true. There was not anyone that was my type.

What is your type?

Totally different from them.

Would you have had sex in the House?

Maybe, after a while of getting to know people.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 June 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

Thine own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee unto me: what hast thou done?

My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servant Craig fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

Art thou a king then?

Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

What is truth?

I miss my mummy.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 June 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

you don't know what you'll miss 'til it's gone.

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 11 June 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)

wtf, Science is trying to compete with Makosi over being 'more African', wtf

Science: "You can see it in my eyes, that ancient flame of a place unnamed of a peoples untamed...The only way you're more African is your ancestors. But my ancestors come from a place that is unlisted, that has been given away."

Makosi: "I grew up there."

― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 11 June 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)

also, Craig is so much more smackable and repulsive than Lesleh.

― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 11 June 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

But I find him oddly compelling. I feel I still don't know him.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 June 2005 10:48 (twenty years ago)

I think there are enough signs to suggest that you perhaps don't want to.

― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 11 June 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

His voice being one such sign. The way he says "I aren't" and enunciates "couldn't of", "shouldn't of" etc - all in that low-level chronic whine - make me want to superglue his mouth shut.

― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 11 June 2005 11:00 (twenty years ago)

Craig, who isn't gay at all, honest, berates Kemal for giving gays a bad name and not achieving anything.

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 11 June 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

UPDATE: It would appear that Max is having a posh wank in a cardboard box.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 June 2005 11:06 (twenty years ago)

I'm wondering if they'll have chance to Get It On before Craig is evicted.

xpost: What's posh about a cardboard box? Isn't that more a "homeless alcoholic wank"?

― caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 11 June 2005 11:07 (twenty years ago)

rivetting.

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 11 June 2005 11:08 (twenty years ago)

The condom makes it posh.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 June 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

Big Brother is more rivetting than ... than fastening things together with small pieces of metal.

xpost: well, you didn't mention there was a condom involved *as well*

― caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 11 June 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

haha is the cardboard box thing an indication that even big brother can't stand the sight of any of them any more?!

I don't think I needed to know aout Maxwell's posh wank.

― The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 11 June 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I welcome these reports of Maxwell being mildly chivalrous, I want to continue completely hating him.

― M Annoyman (Ferg), Saturday, 11 June 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)

Even listening to Derek with his stupid fucking quiz game (why did the others sit still and subject themselves to that?) "no, she said let them eat bread". Derek, are you sure? Gobshite. And there wasn't one person there who contradicted him.

right. it's fucking cake, capiche. why was lesleh dressed like a fetish policeman? could davina have asked even that\?

also wtf north london, why is e4+1 working BUT NOT E4!?!

― N_RQ, Saturday, 11 June 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)

At least the police "uniform" didn't show as much arse as the nurse one did.

― caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 11 June 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

She was supposed to have said "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche.", so not really cake or bread. I'm not sure if brioche meant quite the same as it does now, either. However, I don't think there's much evidence that she actually said it anwyay. Antonia Fraser has argued that it was actually said by Marie-Therese, the wife of Louis XIV, 100 years beforehand, and that the Marie Antoinette attribution was put about by agitators.

So as Anthony(?) rightly said to Derek: "How do you know - were you there then?"

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 June 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

(Derek knew perfectly well that the commonly known phrase was "Let them eat cake" btw, Enrique - he was just trying to be a smartarse. I should know because I'm one myself. Sadly, he kind of fucked up)

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 June 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)

that science makosi african chat is the best yet!

And when Makosi asked him if he went to church, Science replied "I am a church!"

fantastic, as was the "i grew up there" from makosi. i hope the timing is how it is in my head

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Saturday, 11 June 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

alba, yeah i know, me too, it isn't cake or bread ect ect but in the context of a quiz of this sort IT'S FUCKING CAKE.

― n_RQ, Saturday, 11 June 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

IT'S FUCKING CAKE

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 June 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

It is a stupid question for a quiz of this sort.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 June 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

anyway what's all the fuss? it's nowhere near as bad as what i was brought up on:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/jel2004/chaz.jpg

-- the neurotic awakening of s (stevem7...), September 1st, 2004. (blueski)

Well it is having sex, allegedly.
X-post

HE IS FUCKING TEH CAKE!

-- Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (sickmouth...), September 1st, 2004. (Nick Southall)

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 11 June 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

from - "They were especially opposed to the lemon flavoured chews, which 'undoubtedly show a green figure having sex with a lemon.'"

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 11 June 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

losing my shit, awesome. there's NOTHING WRONG with ilxing on the weekend, i was wrong all these years.

― n_RQ, Saturday, 11 June 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

In a curious bid for reversing her unpopularity, Sam has started screaming into the boxes of the contestants remaining in boxes.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 June 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Roberto is apparently screaming back.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 June 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

Saskia peed into her condom but has now left the box.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 June 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

hahaha, this must sound very odd to people who haven't watched bb since the eviction show (ie me).

― n_RQ, Saturday, 11 June 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

I am, frankly, baffled.

― caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 11 June 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

"I'll be with you in a second, I'm just watching a man wank in a cardboard box"

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 11 June 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

After last week's hospital task, this time the contestants have to be in a Becket play for a week.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Saturday, 11 June 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

On tonight's highlights show, Lesley pre-eviction: "I'm worried everyone's gonna see my minge on camera." SO WHY THE HELL ARE YOU WEARING THAT OUTFIT, STUPID?

― caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 11 June 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

BRING BACK KITTEN.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 11 June 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

bring back absolutely anyone from last year.

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 11 June 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

Including Becki?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 11 June 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

Becki? I have erased any Becki from my memory

― caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 11 June 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

came in late. pretended she was italian for about an hour.

― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 11 June 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

BRING BACK IGNATIUS.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Saturday, 11 June 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

Oh, *her*. All I can recall is, um, that she came in late and tried to pretend she was Italian. Actual personality, appearance, it's all a blank.

(this is probably a good thing: it shows I have been using my brain for more useful things than remembering Big Brother contestants)

― caitlin (caitlin), Saturday, 11 June 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

BRING BACK PAUL DANAN

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 11 June 2005 21:26 (twenty years ago)

BRING BACK TICKLE

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Saturday, 11 June 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

'the peacemaker', or the end of 'the peacemaker', is for shit.

― n_RQ, Saturday, 11 June 2005 21:47 (twenty years ago)

Bring back anyone who isn't this lot. I am currently watching Saskia grating a pair of jeans with a cheese grater, and people are still in cardboard boxes. Singing.

― ailsa (ailsa), Saturday, 11 June 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)

BRING BACK SID

― Frogm@n Henry, Saturday, 11 June 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)

BRING BACK TIFFANY

― Frogm@n Henry, Saturday, 11 June 2005 23:08 (twenty years ago)

BRING BACK KARL-HEINZ

― Frogm@n Henry, Saturday, 11 June 2005 23:09 (twenty years ago)

BRING BACK GLENDA

― Frogm@n Henry, Saturday, 11 June 2005 23:11 (twenty years ago)

BRING BACK

http://www.keele.ac.uk/socs/ks05/images/penfold.jpg

― Frogm@n Henry, Saturday, 11 June 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)

BRING BACK DJANGO

― Frogm@n Henry, Saturday, 11 June 2005 23:16 (twenty years ago)

BRING BACK ADAM/DAVROS

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Saturday, 11 June 2005 23:21 (twenty years ago)

BRING BACK THAT LOVIN' FEELING

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Saturday, 11 June 2005 23:32 (twenty years ago)

Sam appears to be sitting up having an earnest conversation in a completely see-through top.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 12 June 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)

she's a strange one. i just can;t get a handle on her.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 12 June 2005 00:29 (twenty years ago)

Did Science say earlier "Without your parents, you're a fish" ?

― Cathy (Cathy), Sunday, 12 June 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)

Weirdly, Science is the only one I think I can get a handle on. He probably said that, yes.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 12 June 2005 00:43 (twenty years ago)

I wish they would all be nicer to each other. I much prefer watching the unexpected moments of intimacy when they all sit up talking than all the bitching and fighting. Science's talk with Vanessa was sweet and very silly and I liked that.

― Cathy (Cathy), Sunday, 12 June 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

makosi is a nurse.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 12 June 2005 08:18 (twenty years ago)

is she the only one who has a job?

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 12 June 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

Lesley was a temp.

― caitlin (caitlin), Sunday, 12 June 2005 08:57 (twenty years ago)

Saskia has a job.

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Sunday, 12 June 2005 09:19 (twenty years ago)

"your leg could fall off."

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 12 June 2005 09:25 (twenty years ago)

that was good

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 12 June 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)

Roberto's a teacher, Craig is a hairdresser.

Craig's man boobs are weirding me out a bit.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 12 June 2005 09:43 (twenty years ago)

anthony is a hairdresser, too, isn't he?

roberto is a teacher but he doesn't have a job, does he?

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 12 June 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

I mean, he's not fat or anything, it seems a bit odd that he has man boobs, and they seem the wrong shape to be muscles rather than, like, actual boobs. Perhaps as well as choosing females contestants with the biggest boobs in Britain, they thought they'd get a bloke with boobs in too.

Anthony's a disco dance diva dude, isn't he?

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 12 June 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

I wonder how that pays

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 12 June 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

and, if it does, why

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 12 June 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)

He apparently is a backing dancer for someone or something called Stretch Limo: Boogie Express. It'll be a hen night type thing, I imagine. Come on, he's based in *Newcastle*.

They also do a gig/club night every week at the Fubar in Stirling, and it seems inexplicably popular with visitors to their website.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 12 June 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)

My googling has also turned up that Science's real name is Kieron Harvey. Which is not as good as being called Science the Great.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 12 June 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps they are implants.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 12 June 2005 10:05 (twenty years ago)

Saskia's boobs are also weirding me out in a totally different way. They look wrong, like Jordan or Pamela Anderson wrong.

I should get out more.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 12 June 2005 10:15 (twenty years ago)

so should they

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 12 June 2005 10:17 (twenty years ago)

I don't think makosi is a nurse.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 12 June 2005 10:20 (twenty years ago)

she's probably a doctor.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 12 June 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)

Roberto would be rubbish as a teacher - kids couldn't take his constant and inappropriate harping on about respect all the time. overuse = loses power

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Sunday, 12 June 2005 10:30 (twenty years ago)

i'm watching 'chelsea girls'. it's like zx spectrum to bb's g5 mac. ie shit. i've missed a lot of makosi and science's conversations. what's he on about? something to do with respect and religion and saying 'i respect you but...'. what's going on?

― n_RQ, Sunday, 12 June 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)

you are cracking up

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 12 June 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

no diggity.

― n_RQ, Sunday, 12 June 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)

i'm watching 'chelsea girls'. it's like zx spectrum to bb's g5 mac. ie shit.

But with rubber buttons to push?

― caitlin (caitlin), Sunday, 12 June 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)

it's rubber everything in this room.

― n_RQ, Sunday, 12 June 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

They've never had anyone Far East Asian looking in this have they(?).

― Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Sunday, 12 June 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

"chelsea girls" is brilliant nrq - you ARE cracking up. is it available on DVD?

if Makosi was a nurse she would probably know what cod liver oil tasted like. unless she's new to the U.K.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 12 June 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

She is a cardiac nurse.

Why is it called the Boudoir G?

― Cathy (Cathy), Sunday, 12 June 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

Are you living in the 1900 house, jed? I don't think nurses go round the wards with spoons of cod liver oil anymore. Gelatine capsules maybe.

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 12 June 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

I think the 'G' is for 'gossip'. As in 'gossip boudoir'.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Sunday, 12 June 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

it's on a not all that cheap dvd here, jed: www.xploitedcinema.com. on an italian label called raro (google time). raro do all sorts of awesome stuff.

i'm only an hour into 'chelsea girls'. i dunno if it's brilliant. it's not as good as big brother though, surely?

perhaps i have cracked up a bit, yes.

― n_RQ, Sunday, 12 June 2005 11:47 (twenty years ago)

Makosi is a nurse. She had an affair with a consultant at her hospital after finishing with Robert Mugabe's nephew.

http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds7700.html

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 12 June 2005 11:54 (twenty years ago)

alba i just gmailed you something you really need to hear.

nrq, i suppose it's too early in the day for chelsea girls. anyway who am i to talk? - my attention span is so shot i can barely make it to the end of coronations street.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 12 June 2005 11:57 (twenty years ago)

coronations

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 12 June 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

jed - is it an interview with modern nurses talking about how they are introduced to cod liver oil early in their training?

― Alba (Alba), Sunday, 12 June 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

yes, zimbabwean nurses.

― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 12 June 2005 12:02 (twenty years ago)

warhol's 'thing' was leaving the camera on and walking away. my 'thing' is watching films AND ilxing AND keeping up with the blogs AN' ting all at the same time. it would be better if i were on drugs i have no doubt, but that's true of most things.

― n_RQ, Sunday, 12 June 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)

anthony: "huuuuuge head"
craig: "fuck off"
anthony: "huuuuuuuuuuge head"

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 12 June 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

how great it would have been had anthony & craig stayed in their boxes 'till the end of the show.

― cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 12 June 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

absolutely brilliant. they should do a spin-off. better still: next year's show should be entirely set in cardboard boxes.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 12 June 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

"I so would have done a poo in your box."

KEMAL IS GARU G.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Sunday, 12 June 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

Have I missed this box thing entirely, then? Can someone explain it? You can make up bits if you want.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Sunday, 12 June 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

The boxes was the best.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Sunday, 12 June 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

1980s pop duo Red Box have entered the house, and entertained the housemates with a rendition of their #3 hit single "Lean On Me (Ah-Li-Ayo)".

They then shot Craig.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 12 June 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

It was inexplicably hilarious to watch the photos of the housemates while they were talking, reminded me of that fucked up American cartoon Tom Goes To The Mayor.

Gravel, housemates woke up to find a bunch of cardboard boxes with their names and photos on the side. The one who stays in the box the longest wins a big meal and access to a fridge of luxury foodstuffs. Inside each box was a survival kit - a kendal mint cake, some water and a condom. I missed Saturdays and the first bit of tonights so not sure what happened during the first few hours but I understand Sam masturabted, and so did Max (using his condom), Saskia urinated in her condom and it split as she was moving her box to the garden.

― Affectian (Affectian), Sunday, 12 June 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

The people who gave up quickest all decided to piss off the people who were still in the boxes, by pouring water in and singing through the holes in the boxes, that sort of thing. Big Brother played shitty tricks like delivering a tray of fresh bacon sandwiches and showing video messages from housemates' parents on the plasma screen. It was quite a good laugh actually yesterday.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 12 June 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

science was v. funny and so was anthony, surprisingly.

― RJG (RJG), Sunday, 12 June 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)

do we think sam/max *really* knocked one off?

― n_RQ, Sunday, 12 June 2005 22:10 (twenty years ago)

Hi-lariously, todays News Of The World has an article titled Sam's Foam Strip Got Lads In Lather, about her stripping naked at some foam party, with a couple of badly-taken photos of this momentous event. BUT the photos in question were taken by a chum of a 'goggle-eyed' moron called Callum who even talks like ILX's resident cretin: "She was loving all the attention, and she couldn't wait to get her kit off."

― Affectian (Affectian), Sunday, 12 June 2005 22:22 (twenty years ago)

Craig is reenacting the Eurovision Song Contest with Kemal.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 12 June 2005 22:24 (twenty years ago)

do we think sam/max *really* knocked one off?

http://www.freeaddictinggames.com/images/397.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Sunday, 12 June 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

Good Morning.

Sam, mm yes..

Max, dunno.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 13 June 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)

the boxes thing was quite soothing sunday evening tv, was like touch the truck but without having to look at the contestants. the way the boxes would move about and talk was funny. science didn't come out of it too well, i don't think, both patience-wise and maturity-wise.

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 13 June 2005 07:54 (twenty years ago)

I ended up watching this on the live feed. Science came out of the edited version much better than he deserved to.

Compelling telly, for some reason. Why is watching a bunch of people sitting in boxes while some psycho is dropping things on their heads so amusing?

Also, did Craig REALLY call Anthony a faggot? He has to go.

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 13 June 2005 08:24 (twenty years ago)

craig said that. is it wrong to find it funny as well as pathetic, craig being so evidently confused about his own sexuality?

― N_RQ, Monday, 13 June 2005 08:27 (twenty years ago)

Well, I laughed too, but it was a shocked sort of disbelieving laugh..

I think Craig is attracted to Anthony, hence the whole UR GAY thing.

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 13 June 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

Also - are they editing against Maxwell or is he really as vile as everyone thought he was?

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Monday, 13 June 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

quite the opposite. they're editing in his favor: him + saskia is the obvious stu/michelle this time. and to be fair, i think he's okay.

― N_RQ, Monday, 13 June 2005 08:46 (twenty years ago)

Many other HM's have gone in as "Mr Comedy" and gone mad/intense, whereas Max has more or less gone the other way, and is turning into Peter Kay...

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 13 June 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)

yes. i can't even remember why i loathed maxwell quite so intensely, although i'm aware that i did. i was going to look back through the other thread for clues. i think his uber-laddishness was maybe a defence mechanism, and all the soppiness with saskia has brought out a rather more decent side to him.

btw: not sure where mrs fiendish saw this, but with reference to the stuff on the previous thread about him being a ringer ... she says apparently he definitely was involved in rehearsals for big brother 5 and the farm, and endemol thought he was so good that he pretty much got into BB6 without a proper audition. but, like i say, i'm not sure exactly where this rumour comes from.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 13 June 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)

Well, the amount of hoops they make you jump through to get on the program, I say good for him if he managed to get fast-tracked.

Note that Nadia did not audition in the traditional way either.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 13 June 2005 10:02 (twenty years ago)

really? i didn't know that: what happened?

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 13 June 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)

She went to the open auditions, but didn't do any of the 'task/team' type auditions.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 13 June 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)

i laughed when craig said to anthony re. his dancing (and after calling him a faggott) "i hope you've got extra samll pants for your tiny baby dick" !

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 13 June 2005 10:38 (twenty years ago)

I couldn't understand why Anthony didn't just throw the gay thing back at Craig. Do they not realise he hasn't actually come out?

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 13 June 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)

Umm, they all came out after Big Brother announced a three-way tie.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 13 June 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)

because they were too busy telling him his head had it's own weather system.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 13 June 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

because they were too busy telling him his head had it's own weather system.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 13 June 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)

i've grown to really like maxwell, saskia and science

― stelf)xxxxx, Monday, 13 June 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

and i still can't believe i'm watching this shit!!!

― stelf)xxxxx, Monday, 13 June 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)

I watch the odd time hoping it will get better, but it doesn't. I really don't like any of them.

― Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Monday, 13 June 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)

oh, when i say "really like" it's definitely relative...

― stelf)xxxxx, Monday, 13 June 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)

yeah u found myself watching Saskia and Maxwell the other night and going "yeah these guys are ok." then 5 minutes later "what are you thinking - these people are awful!"

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 13 June 2005 11:17 (twenty years ago)

Ha! Pirates!

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 13 June 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)

Ha indeed! Have just returned from theee Edgy Style Magazine where it seems that one of my colleagues is writing the BB book and had that Lesleh round his flat on Saturday being interviewed for it.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 13 June 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

are there still edgy style mags?

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 13 June 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

I'm sick of derek's appeals to & 'evidence' of outside suffering, it smacks of pandering.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 13 June 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

mmm I'm not sure.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 13 June 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

Man, Craig fancies Maxwell's pants off.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 13 June 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

I hate craig.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 13 June 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

We all hate Craig.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 13 June 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

O No, Derek has a Science project.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 13 June 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

kemal was like something from "life of brian".

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 13 June 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

misquoting yeats is a project.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 13 June 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

"you've got a lovely arse?" oh maxwell, you charmer.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 13 June 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

Kemal should run around screaming in his pants all the time.

― Alba (Alba), Monday, 13 June 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

ooh, can open, worms everywhere

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 13 June 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

derek, after the end of the box task: "hundreds of thousands of people sleep in cardboard boxes on the streets of london every night"

About 504 people sleep outside around England on any one night, 267 of whom are in Greater London (against 596 and 321 respectively in June 2002) (ODPM, July 2003)

http://www.crisis.org.uk/pdf/HomelessStat.pdf

a factor of more than 300 out cannot be hyperbolic or a joke or anything, really

― RJG (RJG), Monday, 13 June 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)

surely it's a great deal more than 500 though?

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 13 June 2005 23:21 (twenty years ago)

well i suppose crisis may know a bit more about it than me.

― jed_ (jed), Monday, 13 June 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

Ha! Pirates!
http://img259.echo.cx/img259/1719/anfony7fl.jpg

Chaos has ensued in the Big Brother house after Derek, Roberto and Craig were barred from making nominations for rule breaking.

Wow, the nominations are just really obviously being fixed now. They haven't actually had a straight eviction since the last series.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)

RJG, those homeless figures aren't from Crisis, they're from the Office of the Deputy Prime Minister, and they're bullshit. When they do the count, they only count people lying down as you can't "sleep on the streets" sitting up.

― James Mitchell (James Mitchell), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)

I remember when that homeless survey came out; it was quickly exposed as bullshit at the time.

Shortly before those figures were released, I took the night train from Edinburgh to London. As we were trundling through the suburbs of Birmingham at about 3 in the morning, I got up and went to the carriage door to get some fresh air. The route there runs alongside a motorway viaduct, at ground level, and I remember rumbling past a burning oil drum surrounded by about 6 or 7 homeless people, sheltering under the motorway, warming themselves.

Now, if the survey figures were accurate, I had just seen almost every rough sleeper in the Birmingham area. Except that, as these people were obviously not asleep at night, they obviously wouldn't have been counted.

(one of the flaws in the counting was: if the surveyers found someone on the streets, clearly planning to sleep where they were, but *not* asleep, they couldn't count them. They then weren't allowed to go back to the same area later.)

― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 06:39 (twenty years ago)

fine but "hundreds of thousands"

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 07:27 (twenty years ago)

hundreds of thousands is probably a bit of an overestimate, yes.

― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)

So, to recap: Craig, Roberto and Derek are banned from noms for talking about them.

Also, the bit where they talked about them is played back to the other housemates, to the angre of Saskia (labelled an "assassin" by Craig) particular.

So, most probably the 'up for eviction' will be two (or three) of them.

Sam's off the hook once more, and by the week after no-one will remember what bugged them all about her? (tbh, I've not seen that much bad about her, but no-one else I know likes her at all, so what do I know)

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)

it was derek who said "an assassin"

I think the playback was after nominations, wasn't it?

the conversation was derek's making but roberto contributed and craig didn't tell them to piss off

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 07:43 (twenty years ago)

science is so cute

― Cathy (Cathy), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

I loved his face while Derek was quoting Yeats at him.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 08:43 (twenty years ago)

(we need a "me too" image/shorthand doodad)

me too

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

m2 ?

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)

the strongest people left in would appear to be Saskia/Maxwell and Makosi/Kemal. I approve.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/media/latest-pics/day18/d18_1030_zoro_g.jpg

Has a housemate ever looked better during a task?

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/media/latest-pics/day18/d18_1330_landahhoy_g.jpg

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/media/news/day19/19_0930_sailinsolo_1.jpg

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/media/news/day19/19_0930_sailinsolo_2.jpg

I only wish I liked him more.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

From the start I thought Sam would probably win, because - although it's hard to tell - she wins the "eyes closest to horizontal" test.

― caitlin (caitlin), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)

i think the boy maxwell might come through.

― N_RQ, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 10:26 (twenty years ago)

If a woman went this week and was replaced to address the gender imbalance (not out of the question, Endemol did it last year with Bekki), I think the newcomer do very well indeed.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

hmm: i'm not sure. i mean, mrs F and i have grown quite fond of saskia, despite our best efforts. plus there's the prospect of romance etc with maxwell, so i don't think she's going anywhere fast.

and it's impossible to be bored with makosi: she's in for the duration. so that's two very strong female candidates already. ok, no, i don't think saskia can win it. but makosi might. it's very early days yet.

as a group, this year's housemates are probably the most annoying and unlikeable yet. but i still think a newcomer would stand no chance at all.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)

I really dislike saskia, now. she really milked the being plotted against or whatever and cross-examined craig v. badly.

I really dislike vanessa, now, too. she offends me.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)

I really dislike saskia, now. she really milked the being plotted against or whatever and cross-examined craig v. badly.

ooh. i've not seen any of this yet. hurrah, maybe i can revert to the security of my first impressions and not have to deal with the complex emotions of actually changing my mind.

vanessa has been offending me for a week with her sheer inanity.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

makosi is sounding awful just now on the livestream. she has been telling sam and anthony how confident she is and how she can mix with anyone, even bill clinton, because she has natural charisma. what a bighead.

― Cathy (Cathy), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

I actually really didn't like how she tried to make the desire to win in the box competition about gender yesterday.

It had nothing to do with "not wanting to be beaten by a woman", it was about wanting to beat everybody else.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

Derek and Roberto would so rather have been beaten by a man than a woman.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

I agree, but that doesn't mean that was what drove them to stay in the box till the last woman had gone (which Makosi was claiming).

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

im not sure about that - i can't imagine derek trying the "let's count to five and all come out of our boxes at once" if makosi had still been there. it kind of reeked of that "all men together doing the honourable thing" kind of mentality. On the other hand derek doesn't seem to register women at all anymore.

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

I can see that being true as well, but I struggle to see how that could have been their only motivation.

Let's reverse it - Makosi only stayed in the box for as long as she did to try and beat all the men. It had nothing to do with cherryade at all, it was all about not wanting to see a man win. See how daft that sounds?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

I didn't hear what Makosi said so I can't really comment on whether she was overstating her point, but hey, people overstate their cases all the time. It's kind of par for the course, isn't it? I don't think it would make me dislike someone.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

It didn't make me dislike her, but I liked her less because of it.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

See how daft that sounds?

Well, two things here:

1. Surely this rests on whether that was her motivation or not. If it was, then no it's not daft. Just reversing something is a bit meaningless, isn;t it?

2. Maybe that was part of her motivation, but if the point is there's a group of men assuming, for macho reasons, that there must be a male winner of such a contest, then her trying to counter that by winning is not equally sexist. It's combatting sexism. If you can't see that then that's like complaining that it's racist that there's no White Police Officers' Association.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

let's face it, they're all moaning wanks (with the exception of maxwell, who's in a happy, daft, almost dog-like world of his own). the difference is that makosi moans with style and panache, and seems to be slyly aware of the pointlessness of it all.

here's a point: is she still the unlucky housemate, or is that all over and done with? the business with the cherryade in the fridge made me wonder.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)

the difference is that makosi moans with style and panache, and seems to be slyly aware of the pointlessness of it all.

I would argue that this also applies to Kemal. And that Science's moaning is so funny as to let him off the hook too.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

You admit you didn't actually hear what she said. Don't you think that puts you at a disadvantage?

1) You genuinely think it isn't daft to assert her only motivation for staying in was to make sure a man didn't win? Fair play then, I can't argue. It sounds ridiculous to me though.

2) I agree with this. But you're missing my point. Why does it have to be about gender at all? It doesn't. She might as well claim it was about race.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

here's a point: is she still the unlucky housemate, or is that all over and done with? the business with the cherryade in the fridge made me wonder.

-- grimly fiendish (simonmai...), June 14th, 2005.

I feel like I've missed something important.

The very fact that I think its important worries me.

but

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

Why does it have to be about gender at all? It doesn't

It doesn't have to be about gender at all, but in my judgement it was. Are you saying all discussion of people's motives is off-limits until we invent a mind-reading machine?

She might as well claim it was about race.

I haven't seen any evidence that Derek (!) or Roberto are racist.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

I don't know why I'm being so argumentative. Ignore me. I just get turned on by women talking gender politics.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

3 men vs 1 woman: there is a diff between her saying 'i wanted to beat the men' and them saying what they said.

― N_RQ, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Also Makosi=good. Derek+Roberto=not good. So that's that, then.

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

Grimly, I don't think Makosi is still the unlucky housemate as there was a bottle of salad cream in the luxury fridge too, which Science was a bit peeved about. It's just that Makosi made such a flamboyant fuss about the cherryade so that was the focus of that scene.

Oh and Makosi was talking nonsense about the men only staying in their boxes because they wanted a man to win. They stayed in their boxes purely because they personally wanted to win. Not one word about gender was uttered, other than by Makosi. Watching her ramble on about this in the diary room smacked of someone making up some half-hearted excuse for copping out rather than anything based on reality. (I still adore her though)

― Affectian (Affectian), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

it was not about gender. for fuck's sake people, we're talking about how long people could stay in a cardboard box, not disparity of pay and glass ceilings in the workplace or anything important. you're sounding as stupid as they are now. however, i have to say i adored anthony's sylvester stallone in rock II-style diary room victory dedication to his mum and gran, without whom he could not have achieved what he did and the thought of whom kept him going!

― stelf)xxxxx, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

Feminism begins at home.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

(in a cardboard box)

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

as does sanity.

― stelf)xxxx, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

haha Stelf. yeah, Anthony's attitude toward The Box made me like him a lot more: "I'm treating it like sport, I'm going to win!" And when Max tried to convince him to leave the box he shot him a look of disgust as if he'd suggested punching his mum.

What's the consensus on Anthony? He seems like a simple guy, harmless and likeable. He's very much second-in-command to Max but content with that. I like the guy, I think he'll stay to the final three or four but won't win unless some he comes over all Craig from BB1 and wins the heart of a nation.

― Affectian (Affectian), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Ew.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

I'm also wondering why my opinion of Max has changed. Grimly, didn't you say you were arranging a SWAT team of yobs to head down to London to break his legs once evicted? I felt exactly the same at the start but now I want him to stay in. I'm guessing Saskia has brought out a more relaxed side to him. He hasn't had one of his idiotic rants at anyone in a while, they've all been justified (telling Lesley to leave Sam alone, same with Craig). I'm fairly surprised that the Sam/Anthony/Max triangle petered out so quickly. I wanted to watch Max squirm while the other two rutted but all that died out within a day or two. There was a kiss-and-tell from one of Saskia's exes in the NOTW and the ex looked remarkably like Max (unless the NOTW styled him to appear like this, which is v possible).

I pissed my sides when he passed Craig a brew, saying "Here you go... minge." I really hope the housemates start calling Craig 'Minge'.

― Affectian (Affectian), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

anthony looks a bit grotty

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

yes, I do dislike saskia, now. end of.

nominated: derek, roberto & sam

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

It seems channel 4 is now perfectly happy to broadcast people using the f word with abandon at 5:30 in the afternoon (bblb just now).

― Masked Gazza, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Those are the real nominations? Even without Craig, Roberto and Derek that would have nominated her too?

She must be very unpopular.

Sam to go, then?

― hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

derek, I hope

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

Blimey - it's got nasty hasn't it:

Upon hearing the result, Max told the two males: "I hope one of you two fucking goes. I can't wait to see you walk out that door."

"I can't wait to go," replied Derek with a smile.

"Good," Max stated. "[But] I want Roberto to go. What you gonna do? You ain't got no mates when one of you two goes, have you? Who you gonna kiss goodnight?"

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

makosi: "if they put thirteen makosis...or thirteen sams in here, you don't even want to close your eyes and imagine it...because your eyes will explode"

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

Meanwhile, Maxwell's charm offensive continues:

But Saskia didn't appreciate his close attention while she was showering. "Go on. P*** off. What are you staring for?" she said.

"I want to watch you in the shower," he said honestly. "You have a fantastic pair of tits and you're a*** ain't bad."

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

maxwell was just singing "walk away" by cast, too

I really hope he goes, soon, too

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

saskia and maxwell are vile.

― Cathy (Cathy), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Sam's quite likely to go - they'll probably have to introduce a new female housemate to rectify the male/female balance of the house, if that happens.

― AdrianB (AdrianB), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

I like the idea that Maxwell misused "you're", in speech.

― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

vanessa and her stupid "breadrolls".

the only one I like now is science.

― Cathy (Cathy), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

I don't like science anymore. There was a stupid argument with anthony and kemal and he threw water right in kemal's face very violently.

They are all horrible people.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

that was not RJG, it was cathy.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

Blimey, Marco is still such a cock. Can't someone edit his first year essay-style pontifications?

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

The Maxwell and Saskia will-they/wont-they saga has been a centre point of the show this week and is genuinely quite touching.

Lord help us.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

Makosi oozes charisma from every pour.

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 17:09 (twenty years ago)

Even in the initial week of the previous series where BB asserted that they would evict any member of the house they so elected to given the breach of Kitten's third formal warning, it was Kitten, the causal agent, who was ultimately evicted.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

I fear for the future of the legal profession.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

what with this and PJ and cozen

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

And Sunita.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

Cozen on PJ in Sunita on top of Marco. Cozen in PJ on Sunita inside of Marco. Cozen up PJ on Sunita fistfucking Marco.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, I'm going to stop doing that now.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

and louise woodward

crossposts

― RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

Anthony unexpectedly funny in the nominations.
Kemal expectedly funny.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

I love Makosi.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

Vanessa has dropped further in my estimation after uttering the awful cliche "I'm the kind of person who can forgive but not forget" in the course of the not-very-forgiving act of nominating Sam.

I love that five of the six nominations for Roberto focused on his obsession with food.

Classic TV moment when they were all shown the footage of Derek, RObero and Craig bitching about Saskia.

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

I'm the kind of person who can forgive not forget, alba.

― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

vanessa and her stupid "breadrolls".

heidi.

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

jesus, this thread's been busy.

Grimly, didn't you say you were arranging a SWAT team of yobs to head down to London to break his legs once evicted?

heheheh. i think i said i'd travel down (on my own) to chin him. but i like this exaggeration.

i'm just catching up with the pirate stuff now on C4 - oh no, both mrs fiendish and i just laughed at the word "seamen" - so i still think maxwell might be OK. but the stuff about him staring at saskia in the shower suggests i could be changing my mind again very quickly.

Blimey, Marco is still such a cock

at least there are still some constants in the world.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

...dangleberry?

― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

ha!

jesus. craig looks like the world's biggest cock in that costume. what a knobwax.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

CRAIG MUST STAY!

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

CRAIG MUST ~~STAY~~ SUSTAIN A BEATING ABOUT THE PODS!

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Tuesday, 14 June 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

craig is comedy, but i don't know howw much more of these fuckers i can take.

― n_RQ, Tuesday, 14 June 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

Upon hearing the result, Max told the two males: "I hope one of you two fucking goes. I can't wait to see you walk out that door."

Max is now my hero, for actually SAYING what everyone else has on occasion been THINKING when noms have been announced for FIVE YEARS!!!

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:26 (twenty years ago)

.. Which means with the "quote"

"I'm top dog, you're my missus, you two are GOING!"

Maxwell has turned into (or always was) Ray Winstone out of the film "SCUM" !!!

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)

I've not watched this for a good few days now but it sounds boiling in the house. So many mixed views on this thread too.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)

Big Brother (UK 2005) - "I'm top dog, You're my missus, and who are YOU TWO going to kiss goodnight?" : thread 3

Movin on...

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:41 (twenty years ago)

his name is carlin, mark, belive it or not.

― N_RQ, Wednesday, 15 June 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

carlin? oh surely not. that's too good to be true.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 15 June 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)

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