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Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:12 (twenty years ago)

I like this especially because my neighborhood/route to work so frequently smells so strongly of chocolate.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:14 (twenty years ago)

The album covers get progressively lamer from here out.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:16 (twenty years ago)

So. Should I visit your fair city if I ever do a US tour? I have a plan you see. I wanna come over, and I'd like to visit various ILXors in Chi, LA, NY and Montreal as a start. Conveniently, said cities are all on opposite sides of the continent, but oh well. One day!

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:22 (twenty years ago)

xpost

So it's Saturday night, and once again, I am missing my opportunity to meet Jordan and Maddie. I am home and doing nothing. I am sorry. This state of mind will not last forever. It's complicated.

I will, however, be at Amst's going away party. I don't know him all that well, but I know him enough to be heavily reminded of one of my favorite people -- my college roommate Kevin, who was obnoxious, overbearing, and so smart and engaging that you could forgive him for all of that. I liked Amst the first time I met him. I like him even more now.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:24 (twenty years ago)

Should I visit your fair city if I ever do a US tour?

I'm happy to report that we're approaching an age in which no US tour would be complete without Chicago. This was not always the case. But we've caught up, and you'll be surprised how much.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:26 (twenty years ago)

Jesus H. Christ.

As much as I share the noize dude enemy list with Orbit, I now completely understand everyone's frustration with her. I just spent an hour on the phone with her, during which I did my bit of whining, as I do. And then she did her bit of whining, during which she attacked a fair number of people that I like, and made insanely irrational arguments against them, and when I argued in their favor, refused to budge on any point. It's like she's some kinda ass-stupid superhero, totally impervious to the intelligence of others. It was like nothing else I've ever argued against.

"But you have to understand, these people don't know you. You can't let it get to you like this."

"Yes I can."

"But they're not your friends. Why do you care so much?"

"Because they lie about me."

"I don't quite believe that, but let's assume that they do. Who cares if they lie about you?! They don't even know you!"

"You don't understand. They lie."

"But they're not even real people, Orbit. They're on the internet. At least half of the reason they pick on you is because you let them get to you so badly."

"But they lie."

"You're not listening. That's not the point."

"But they lie."

"I don't care if they do. No one does. Your dignity is more important here. You have to to let this go."

"They lie."

"But we're past that. Or I thought we were. Look, stop acting like a freak, and they'll stop being assholes to you."

"But why do they hate me?"

"They don't even know you. These are a bunch of incorrigible nerds we're talking about. They pick on anyone they sense weakness from. Stop caring so mucyh, and FOR GOD'S SAKE STOP BEING SO DEFENSIVE, and they'll leave you alone."

"But they lie."

*sigh*

I think I ended this exchange, which went on for much longer than this, by saying, "You have succeeded in exasperating me as much as you have everyone else on the board." This was the truth. She hung up on me. Good riddance. She's a nut.

So that's what I did tonight. I learned to dislike someone. I'm not sure this means progress for me as a person.

-- Paunchy Stratego (fluxion2...) (webmail), July 31st, 2005. (kenan)

why do you talk on the phone with people you haven't met in person? especially someone like that? weird

-- Amateur(ist) (amateurist@gmail.com) (webmail), July 31st, 2005. (Amateur(ist))

I've talked to orbit on the phone before, and found her stories interesting and her demeanor pleasant enough, which is why I defended her on other threads. She seemed rather nice. But get her talking about ILX, and it all gets very personal and painful and -- pardon my saying so -- insane.

-- Paunchy Stratego (fluxion2...) (webmail), July 31st, 2005. (kenan)

you both need to chill, it's a fucking interweb message board

-- Amateur(ist) (amateurist@gmail.com) (webmail), July 31st, 2005. (Amateur(ist))

I know. Believe me, I'm Captain Mellow compared to this girl.

-- Paunchy Stratego (fluxion2...) (webmail), July 31st, 2005. (kenan)

I'm upset by this. I don't like to think people can be crazy.

-- Paunchy Stratego (fluxion2...) (webmail), July 31st, 2005. (kenan)

Um... shit. I'm not one to talk, am I?

Shit.

-- Paunchy Stratego (fluxion2...) (webmail), July 31st, 2005. (kenan)

New thread!

Chicago X

-- Paunchy Stratego (fluxion2...) (webmail), July 31st, 2005. (kenan) (tracklink)

Kenan
With friends like you, who needs enemies? Was this really called for? What was your motivation for posting this? What are you trying to accomplish? Did it ever occur to you that from my point of view YOU sound insane , too? The difference between us is that I didn't see fit to post a private phone convo to ILX. Got to hell, Kenan.

-- Orbit (little.miss.orbi...) (webmail), July 31st, 2005. (Orbit)

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:27 (twenty years ago)

Well now we're up to speed.

With friends like you, who needs enemies?

Let's just say we're enemies, ok?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:29 (twenty years ago)

Was this really called for? What was your motivation for posting this? What are you trying to accomplish? Did it ever occur to you that from my point of view YOU sound insane , too? The difference between us is that I didn't see fit to post a private phone convo to ILX. Go to hell, Kenan.

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:31 (twenty years ago)

What was your motivation for posting this? What are you trying to accomplish?

I was amazed at how much of a nut you are, and I weas trying to limit my broadcating of it to my own small thread. Sorry. I guess I should have stewed in it.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)

I'm not a fucking nut. People who post phone convos are nuts.

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:35 (twenty years ago)

You really pissed me off, Orbit.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:36 (twenty years ago)

And you pissed ME off.

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:36 (twenty years ago)

kenan was wrong, you are both nuts, i'd advise taking this to AIM or something. my fee is $45.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:37 (twenty years ago)

Hey, Am, *i* didn't bring it here.

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:37 (twenty years ago)

I am intrigued by your expensive offer of something that would otherwise be free, and would like to know more.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:38 (twenty years ago)

Orbit, I'd like to apologise if I shitted you off with my recent comments, I just wrapped the whole noise thing into a ball and laughed at it all, it wasnt my intention to mock anyone specifically fwiw. Just thought I'd say so. I'll leave it there.

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:46 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry for thinking that the Chicago thread is just my own little group of friends instead of the whole internet.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 04:57 (twenty years ago)

**nipple**

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 31 July 2005 05:00 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure that was meant as some kind of derision, but damned if I know how.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 05:03 (twenty years ago)

Just trying to lighten to mood by showing a little nipple...

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 31 July 2005 05:04 (twenty years ago)

This isnt aimed at you K, but I am constantly amazed at how often people think of ILX (and LJ I guess) as "private"... I'm led to this thought after Kates comment about her "private board" where she's been posting "no I wont bite" comments repeatedly and I was wondering why the hell she'd expose herself on a public forum with very private journal notes.

PEOPLE READ WHAT YOU WRITE. And as a friend of mine wisely once said, "on the internet, your words are all you are". (Or something like that).

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 31 July 2005 05:06 (twenty years ago)

Does that mean I can't show my nipple?

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 31 July 2005 05:10 (twenty years ago)

I dunno, can people read it? =)

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 31 July 2005 05:11 (twenty years ago)

I could write really tiny on it.

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 31 July 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

You're right, trayce, and amst was right, too. Meaning: I was wrong.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)

Orbit: answer your phone. I want to apologize to you so much.

Or don't, that's cool, too.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 05:13 (twenty years ago)

Of course I'm right, I'm the "hall monitor" after all ;P

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 31 July 2005 05:14 (twenty years ago)

Oh Kenan you are a sausage, I just want to hug you sometimes you silly ;P

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 31 July 2005 05:17 (twenty years ago)

But I'm an asshole!

Well, I guess you can't make sausage without assholes.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 05:18 (twenty years ago)

Ew ew mental image ew *scrubs brain*

Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 31 July 2005 05:26 (twenty years ago)

i want to come to chicago parties between august 9th and 20th and meet the people i havent

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Sunday, 31 July 2005 05:31 (twenty years ago)

i haven't read this thread yet, but all of us chicago ilxors are all at my house right now and we all resent that you are posting without us. thank you. love, nick, sarah, jeff, jenny, amanda, and john.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 06:54 (twenty years ago)

This is Nick. I'm posting frm jaymc's apartment and it's 3 am, WTF!?!?!?!?

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:02 (twenty years ago)

WTF!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:04 (twenty years ago)

BEST CHICAGO THREAD EVER WHOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:05 (twenty years ago)

Hey guys! I'm at home by myself. i have to work tomorrow! Fuck work.

deej.., Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:08 (twenty years ago)

poo poo paa paa, i'm jaymc, wooooooooooooooooooo

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:11 (twenty years ago)

IMPOSTERS

the real jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:14 (twenty years ago)

'As what I'm sayin'.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:16 (twenty years ago)

This thread is k-lame.

deej.., Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:16 (twenty years ago)

Oh, BTW, Orbit and I are cool again. I just talked to her on the phone for over an hour.

Sorry, Orbit.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:17 (twenty years ago)

Maybe i just dont like the internet at night when everyone's asleep.

deej.., Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:18 (twenty years ago)

you love it, drake.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:20 (twenty years ago)

i am drunk. people were just over at my house but they have left.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:20 (twenty years ago)

PS I think we should get together on Tuesday for Am's going away. That would be my vote, anyway.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)

Or else today. Tomorrow. Sunday. Whatever.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:24 (twenty years ago)

oh please post, guys. i'm lonely.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)

i love you all.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:34 (twenty years ago)

I'm still here! In spirit. And reality.

deej.., Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:41 (twenty years ago)

bless you, deej.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)

I'm not here.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:49 (twenty years ago)

yes you are/

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)

hi. i'm here to let you know i got home ok. my dogs were sleeping and i had to wake them up, poor saps. we're all home and alright. i'm still not tired.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)

yay.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:54 (twenty years ago)

you should've stayed.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:54 (twenty years ago)

xxxpost Never.

I am also not listening to Gang Starr Daily Operation, and I am not being transported magically back to high school, and I am not at all loving it.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

well, i felt weird. being the only one and all.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

being the only one what?

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:55 (twenty years ago)

human staying at your apartment. everyone else was ready to leave. i wasn't going to stay by myself in your hott bachelor pad.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)

awww :(

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

well...i dunno. i wanted to get a safe ride to the station. also, my mutts needed me.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)

although they were fast asleep. and we were listening to some slammin' ABC.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:59 (twenty years ago)

you are forgiven

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 07:59 (twenty years ago)

but we could've stayed up late and listened to new wave classics!

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 08:00 (twenty years ago)

i know. that would have been fun.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 31 July 2005 08:00 (twenty years ago)

I'm home, and not drinking. a little sad.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 31 July 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)

who want's to go out?

there's an hour left to drink

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 31 July 2005 08:04 (twenty years ago)

...........! of course i'd have to put clothes on and brush my teeth.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 31 July 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

and floss.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 31 July 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

SOMEONE CALL ME>

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 31 July 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

IT's good i'm passing out now.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 31 July 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)

sorry amanda & i are on teh phone

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)

zzzzzzzz

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry for thinking that the Chicago thread is just my own little group of friends instead of the whole internet.

-- Paunchy Stratego (fluxion2...), July 31st, 2005. (later)

Then I guess you'll actually be surprised to know that other people who are also on ILX and live in Chicago read Chicago threads, too.

jennpb (jennpb), Sunday, 31 July 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)


For god's sake - if you live in Chicago and are a regular ilxor, you should contribute!

Land Ho (dymaxia), Sunday, 31 July 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Headache!

Brunch anyone? We still want to go to Heartland.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 31 July 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

i am going to go nap in the sun. 'ta.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Sunday, 31 July 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I don't want to make the trek up to Andersonville/Rogers Park for the third time this weekend. I am baking heart-shaped biscuits. That's not a metaphor or anything, they are really heart-shaped.

BUT BUT BUT today is day 2 of Wicker Park Summerfest, we will be getting to the scene about 5:30 or so to catch Miss Alex White, the Reigning Sound, and Holly Golightly if anyone else wants to hang out.

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 31 July 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

Just as well, Jenny is unable to move right now. She can't drink like she used to. I however feel great. I've been eating popsicles all morning.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 31 July 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

I prescribe large doses of The Association for anyone feeling under the weather today. Worked for me! Know what else sounds good? Pierogies. Potato and cheese. With onions. MMMMMMMMMMM.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 31 July 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

We chewed a lot of gum last night. I only have like 2 pieces left.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 31 July 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

Just so everyone knows, Amanda's name is now JUMANJI.
In-jokes ahoy!
I wish we had some popsicles.

n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 31 July 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

I have some -- they're lime juice popsicles and they're quite good. I guess you guys should know something. I have the Jumanji board game.

(it's true. i do.)

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 31 July 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

The only board games we have are scrabble and trival pursuit.

and maybe a chess board, I can't remember.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 31 July 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

You don't know adventure until you know JUMANJI! Actually, it's not that fun. We like to play cribbage. We have Fireball Island too, which is lots of fun.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 31 July 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

please help me think of some funny-cute slogans/sayings/sentences i can iron onto these teensy tiny onesies i bought for my new nephew, owen. i can't think of anything today. i'm going to go cut up some vegetables now.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 31 July 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

Think up some t-shirt slogans for the wry fuckers at Neighborhoodies

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 31 July 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

Good morning, all.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Aww, I totally wanted to go to John's afterbar and Heartland Cafe with you guys, but I was once again punished for being less drunk than my bandmates. We got shirmp (and Erik got bootlegs of Wedding Crashers and Charlie & the Chocolate Factory), slept, and then I drove their hungover asses back to Madison.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 31 July 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

You needed more Malort.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 31 July 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

Jenny's head hurts. Still!

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 31 July 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

hi guys, I'm back from Indiana, sorry I couldn't swing by chi-town on my way home. I dunno when I'm ever going to make it up there!

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 31 July 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

that's cool, jordan, people didn't stay at my place for all that long. glad i got the chance to meet you!

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 31 July 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

jaymc's place is the jamz. I'm going to go there ALL the time.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 31 July 2005 23:28 (twenty years ago)

HEY REMEMBER WHEN KENAN SAID HE THOUGHT THAT EVERYONE ON THE NOISE BOARD WOULD BE "TOO NERDY" TO HANG OUT WITH IN PERSON? AND YET THIS DUDE IS CLEARLY HAVING "TORRID" PHONE SEX WITH ORBIT!!!! WHAT IS UP WITH THAT!?!?!

Paunchy Stratego, Monday, 1 August 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)

huh?

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 1 August 2005 00:32 (twenty years ago)

ORBIT AND KENAN
SITTING IN A TREE
K I S S I N G.

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Monday, 1 August 2005 00:34 (twenty years ago)

That first post was John, not me.

Torrid phone sex, indeed.

And by nerdy, I meant no big insult, just that you guys would likely talk programming and music I don't care about, and I would be bored. Nothing personal.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 1 August 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

I apologize again, Orbit, for posting that. It's crazy to me to think that last night I was thinking that you'd never see it.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 1 August 2005 00:42 (twenty years ago)

should we have torrid phone sex and make jon jealous?

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 1 August 2005 00:43 (twenty years ago)

haha!!! you find treasures of lolz and nutterz in little threads sometimes.

huell howser (chaki), Monday, 1 August 2005 00:45 (twenty years ago)

http://www.lestoil.net/bbpg/pin%20up%20art/torrid.jpg

I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Monday, 1 August 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

hott!

Orbit (Orbit), Monday, 1 August 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)

mmm... big-ass thighs.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 1 August 2005 01:02 (twenty years ago)

Amanda and John! I'm heading out soon so this is just a message to confirm that we're meeting for lunch at 12:15 on the corner of Jackson and State. If anything changes, call and leave me a voice mail or text me.

Peace out!

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)

Good morning, starshines. You should have come to wicker park summerfest yesterday. Miss Alex White was, once again, SUPREME. It was very loud and very very good. I stood right in front of the stage and couldn't hear anything for a while afterwards.

Nick and I didn't get home until 4am Sunday. John, I don't know what this business is of saying people should have stayed late and hung out. What is late to you?!! :-D

So, Am., is this going away shindig happening? If so, when?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)

Also, I'm 100% ready for kareoke again, but are you sure we shouldn't try somewhere new this time? I liked the Hidden Cove, but it might be fun to work with a different song roster.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

Nick and I didn't get home until 4am Sunday. John, I don't know what this business is of saying people should have stayed late and hung out. What is late to you?!! :-D

I didn't say that! I just said that Jordan shouldn't feel too bad about not coming to my place, since it was already so late and you guys were only there for about an hour.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

However, I did stay up until well into the morning. Yesterday was kind of a wash for me.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:32 (twenty years ago)

I'm glad Jumanji got home OK, I felt guilty later for not just driving her home.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

I was actually very productive and creative yesterday! I wrote a good chunk of a new song, made two show fliers, created a delicious sandwich, and helped Sarah move furniture around fruitlessly. Maybe I should stay up until 4 am more often.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

Don't worry Nick - the train that took Jumanji home came pretty much right away and J+J were there to keep her company. No biggie. I pretty much didn't sleep at all Saturday night. I felt fine yesterday but then today, whoo! Not fine.

Tired.

(Although not too tired for lunch -- 12:15, on the corner of State and Jackson. I got the salad. Someone's got the bevvies?)


The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

Wow. I drove home, walked to the gas station with Maddie, watched 3/4ths of a bad Bollywood movie (complete with Matrix-style bullet time dodging of flying saliva), read, and went to bed at 8 pm. 12 hours of sleep!

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

Sarah/Nick -- Is Miss Alex White the one who was written about in the Reader a few weeks ago? She's like 19?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, and she's pretty awesome. But she's moved from playing kinda stripped down "bluesy" (in a White Stripes way) with just a drummer to more dense Ponys-esque garage rock with a full band. She still sounds awesome but I don't think her new style is as distinct. If you care about that kinda thing.

I am beat today too. I think I'll go get a second cup of coffee.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

Is it possible that having such a fun weekend has made coming back to work even more depressing? Or am I just tired?

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

Anyone else going to see SMOG on Thursday at the Empty Bottle?

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

No, you're right, it is more depressing.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm kind of freaking out about this week because I need to take Wednesday afternoon off to play a gig and Friday off to go to Chicago (!) with Maddie, and I'm basically out of vacation days. I'll have to fake sick, and I hate doing that.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

Hey -- everyone -- by the way: Sunday, Aug. 14 (two weeks from yesterday) will be my birfday party. Please consider being there.

Chicago related question: does anyone know of a public park with: (1) baseball diamond [for kickball] and (2) the capacity to conceal a grill and a cooler of beer? Because that's what we're looking for. We = me and my friend Greg, the other guy who is celebrating his birthday on the same day. Help!

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

PS -- I have looked at the Park District site and it's helpful, but I haven't seen most of the parks that fit our needs. It needs to be ghetto enough to not kick us out for grilling and drinking beer but clean enough that we're not going to collide with a needle if we slide into first base.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

Hey Jordan - don't freak out about calling off sick. That's what sick days are for! I figure that since we're now in the latter half of the year, if you haven't already used all of your sick days, now is the time to use them.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

True, true. My work is a little weird though, in that we don't get a bunch of vacation and sick days at the beginning of every year. We build them up as we go, i.e. you start with NOTHING and then get something like .84 vacation days and .5 sick days per month. Lame.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

there is a park around noble and chicago (noble and chestnut to be more specific) that may be good. there is plenty of parking and we drank beer when we played softball. i forgot what the park was called.

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

Eckhardt Park.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

And after a few beers, you can break into the abandoned church across the street.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

indeeed

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

thanks fellas. we're starting to get lazy at this point...considering that the party is two weeks away and we're still figuring out where it is.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

John, I was referring to this:
but we could've stayed up late and listened to new wave classics!
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), July 31st, 2005. (later)

Anyway, this Monday morning at work is flying by for me. WOO HA!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Btw, we recorded both shows at the Green Mill and if it came out well, we'll put a couple 'bonus tracks' on the album.

xpost, I am all in check.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

i want to go see smog on thursday.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Jeff: I was forced to give you up to Jessa for calling at 3am. She gave me the number off of caller ID, and asked me to call it. I did. It was you.

But as soon as she found out it was you, she wasn't pissed anymore. She loves you.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I got your message. I made sure I deleted that phone number off your name in my phone.

I'm a lovable stupid drunk asshole who kicks kittens and babies and phones people in all hours of the night.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

That's all right: I sent about a dozen text messages on Saturday night, including some to people I shouldn't have sent anything to. Luckily, those ones were vague.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

(Unless that makes it worse, which is possible.)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm just so used to the age of cell phones, where the phone discreetly vibrates in someone's purse or on a table and then goes straight to voicemail. I forget that people still have landlines.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

I'm a lovable stupid drunk asshole who kicks kittens and babies and phones people in all hours of the night.

That's alright. I lose my fucking shit about Bill Murray.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

Ironic thing is, she was awake at 3am last night. You could have called then. She was up all night drinking wine with her friend Ben.

I think this relationship may be over.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

I guess I'm asking for it, aren't I?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

where is amateurist going?

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 1 August 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

To study film, of course! In Iowa.

Paunchy, are you feeling relieved or not so good about that?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

I'm feeling like going home and letting my kitchen ceiling fall on me. Might be an exciting way to go out.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

Did I tell you the falling ceiling story? My kitchen ceiling leaks badly, and every time it rains, huge chunks of wet plaster plop onto my floor. It's ridiculous. And when I called the landlord about it, her response was not "Oh we'll fix it," it was, "If you want out of the lease, I'll understand."

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

Oh dear. That's bad.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

I'm depressed.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

Could someone please introduce Kenan to a hot ceiling repairwoman?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

Ooh! Our bathroom ceiling fell in once, but it was fixed. Your landlord shouldn't be a landlord. If she can't afford to make repairs, she should sell it.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

xpost Who likes Bill Murray. That's a must.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

When I had cockroaches last year, I told my landlord and he was like, "Sounds like you need to call an exterminator." I was like, uhhh, isn't that your job, dude?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

I guess moving out wouldn't be that hard. I still don't have any furniture. I have aquired nothing that did not come in Nick's car.

But when I asked Jessa about moving back in, she said no. She sleeps better without me, she says.

Oh, man. Meltdown.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

2 bedroom apartment?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

Anyone else going to see SMOG on Thursday at the Empty Bottle?

I think am going. I will see you guys there probably!


...I'm sorry to hear about the relationship troubles, K. And ceiling troubles. That blows.

giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

I think Bill Murray is great!

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

I do too.

giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

I like Bill Murray. He's the kind of famous person you just feel like you already know.

Keeeeenan, Hi. I'm sorry about all that. Really.

Jaymc, at least you didn't have fleas (not that we do, but my first house in Louisiana did before we moved in - my mom had to have it flea bombed 5 times in a row).

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

I don't like telling people I had cockroaches, because then if they come over, I worry they'll feel nervous, but I haven't seen a single one in almost a year now.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

It's ok. You have to get it off your chest. I'm sure it was probably a little traumatizing.

Other infestations I've lived with: RATS skittering across the floors! BIRDS stuck in the walls and chimney!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

I've had cockroaches, mice, spiders, ants, chiggers and fleas. Not all at once, but at various apartments in various states (with various animals.)

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Some of them more than once.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and termites.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

We had bats at one of my old places. It made for great conversation when friends came over:

Friend: "AHH! WHAT THE HELL'S THAT?"
Roomates & I: "That's Flappy. He lives in the attic with all the other Flappies."

dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

And ants!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

This summer has been surprisingly ant-free for me!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

varmints are part of life.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, currently my neighborhood seems to have a screaming 2 year-old infestation. They've only survived thus far beacuse they can be so damn cute.

dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 1 August 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

We've had very little insect problems in this apartment. It's really the perfect place to live. Except the price.

In our old apartment, we had a constant ant infestation. Millions of them. We tried every cat safe anticide method we could think of and it never really worked. I pity the person that lives in the old house now.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 1 August 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

I have had zero infestations in the two days I have lived in my new apartment. Mice I can deal with. Roaches make me want to barf.

giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 1 August 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

My apartment is infested with koala bears. It's the cutest infestation ever. Way better than cockroaches. When I turn on the light, a bunch of koala bears scatter, but I don't want them too. I'm like, "Hey... Hold on fellows... Let me hold one of you, and feed you a leaf."

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 1 August 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Our bug problems have been pretty minor in this place.

The big fear is SCRUGS.

xpost, I love that bit.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 1 August 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

Ooh! Another infestation from a past apartment! Are those the things that crawl out of the faucet? We called them silverfish.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 1 August 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

I haven't slept for 10 days. Because that would be too long.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 1 August 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

I think silverfish are actually something else. These are house centipedes. They do indeed come out of faucets and drains, move very fast, and are terrifying.

Rather, Maddie is terrified of them (understandably so). I just loathe them, so the job of scrug-slaying falls to me.

(the term "scrug" comes from a similar-looking Edward Gorey creature, btw)

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 1 August 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

We must have had scrugs then. I couldn't take baths because I would be soaking and then suddenly I would notice that one of them fell into the tub and was doing a doggy paddle beside my leg. Yuck.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 1 August 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

EWW.

I just img searched silverfish, and they do look similar but don't have nearly as many legs.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 1 August 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Hey! Where is everyone today? Working hard because it's Monday? Humph!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 1 August 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

I'm here. I just had lunch with Jenny and John near the Art Institute.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

I'm here. I ate lunch with Jenny and John near the Art Institute.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

I'm here. Jenny, John and I just ate lunch near the AI.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

Here I am. Near the Art Institute: lunch with Jenny and Amanda.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

(ILX VORTEX)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Where did you eat? Did you get drunk?

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Amanda made a lovely quinoa and bean salad. We sat in that little area with all the trees directly south of the AI.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

MUST HAVE BEEN NICE!

I ate a lunch I packed by myself.
I ate by myself a lunch I packed.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

It was nice. Hot, though.

It was nice, though hot.

As much fun as it was, it sure was hot.

Eating lunch was nice, but the weather was hot.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

I'm back. Where is Amst. going? I just read that I share a birfday with Amanda. I have no idea what I want for my birthday, this, the quarter century mark.
I hate Scrugs. There was a huge one on the bathroom wall the other day and I beat it to death with a bottle of Draino.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

Jocelyn - my birfday isn't actually on the 14th, though. My friend's is on the 15th and mine is the 23rd, so we're having our party before either of us turn 30. So we can play kickball. You're welcome to join us -- it's mostly an August birthday celebration. Except we're old and you're not. Ha.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

With a bottle of Draino, I beat the huge one on the bathroom wall to death the other day.

On the bathroom wall, I beat the huge one to death the other day with a bottle of Draino.

I, with a bottle of Draino, beat it to death the other day, the huge one.

(sorry)

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

Is it going to be a bunch of 30+ year olds? I'm so going to rule kickball. Can I be on a team by myself?

Also, I still want to play tennis. This hot weather makes me want to sweat it out on a lakefront court. Someone challenge me.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

Geezers gonna dominate the kickball diamond.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

Is that a line from The Streets?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

Nope. It's an original.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

(This was supposed to be an answer to Sarah's question asking where everyone was, which was about the time my computer froze up. Stupid 1llustrator.)

I'm researching romantic nightspots for an evening with my extra special ladyfriend. And working, a little bit. So far, I've found a somewhat-interesting-looking wine and fondue place and a seemingly never-ending succession of boring restaurant/club places. I started a Chicago Date Thread back in my early days on the board, but I'd welcome suggestions if you all have them...

dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

Haha, A, I know. I also suggested earlier today that the ILX poster known as "tissp! (the impossible special shortest path)" sounded like a fake Stereolab song.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

ha. i read that. and i laughed.

Indolent Radar Sandwich -- fake GBV songs are the most fun.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

If only the band itself was as good as its titles.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

13.5% of the time they are!

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

WHATS UP DAWGS. MONDAY ALMOST OVER. IM TIRED BUT HAVE TO GO PAY RENT AND THE N HAVE BAND PRACTICE 2NIGHT. HI.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

Oh, rent. I honestly can't remember if I've paid rent all summer or not. I think I'm going to write a check for July plus August, and see if that takes care of it.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

Everyone used to tell me that if I liked Pavement, then I would like GBV. No.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

!!

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

THIS HOW I TALK FRM NOW ON. INNJOY!

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

you'll be like one of those old ladies who writes a large check and says, over her reading glasses that are attached to her body with a chain around her neck, "i do believe that should cover it" with no idea whether or not that covers it.

gbv and pavement - not the same.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

I want John's landlord.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

I have no idea what Jordan's !! refers to: my cavalier attitude toward rent? Nick's new in-yo-face persona?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

Your distaste for GBV?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

Pssh. I hereby challenge all geezers to Ultimate Kickball Battle.

you'll be like one of those old ladies who writes a large check and says, over her reading glasses that are attached to her body with a chain around her neck, "i do believe that should cover it" with no idea whether or not that covers it.

haha! That just made me think of my mom and I got a little sad there cuz she's getting old and bad-vision-y. I also laughed because it's funny and extremely accurate.

giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

oh john, throwing a knife straight at my heart.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

Oh, I get it, J. Yeah, I dunno. No one's bothered me about it, so my natural laziness toward paying bills remains uncorrected. (I'm the guy who also waits for T-Mobile to call me so I can just pay over the phone.) (And I've set it up so all of my utilities are paid automatically.)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

"I don't like Husker Du, either. They just sound so tinny and underproduced." -- Jeff Heath, 7/30/05

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

BANDS THAT SUCK PART ONE
PAVEMENT
GBV
HUSKER DU
CANASTA
FAKE FICTIONS
BEATLES

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

"Borrowing heavily from the Beatles, the Who, and other British Invasion bands at some spots, GBV's ecclectic recordings always ranged from lo-fi pop rock to tinny, spacious prog-rock bites that seem worthy of a classification all their own." -- San Francisco Bay Guardian, 6/20/97

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

speaking of...jaymc's silence on the topic makes me think that he hated the husker du cd i made. which is totally fine. i thought i would give it a try though. an earnest, valiant effort.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

that's what i was talking with the sign about when you saw me talking to the sign. not jenny, the sign.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

How do you get by with not paying rent, john?

I had a landlord like that in Austin, but I figured it would be unheard of here.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

I haven't listened to it yet, Amanda! I am bad about listening to things right away. But I will. In fact, I even have it here at work with me.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

Haha. I didn't know! I'm bad about that too.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

i seriously hate pavement

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

But anything release past 1996 wasn't underproduced at all! Also, that quote was taken out of context, I prefaced it with "I like lofi production, but..."

I also don't like the beatles. Love the followers, hate the influence. I'm imperfect!

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

Beatles are okay. I've only heard a couple of Pavement songs, but I don't really like them either.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

Jordan, maybe you would like the album that features jazz covers of Pavement songs?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

interesting. I'd like to hear that.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

I've heard two of those songs! The one that plays on the website and the one of Fluxblog. I don't know the originals, but the one on the website is fucking sweet. I like all of those players.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

I started a Chicago Date Thread back in my early days on the board, but I'd welcome suggestions if you all have them...

"Dating"?? In Chicago, "dating" is a joke. We're not very romantic, you see.

Land Ho (dymaxia), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

Name other cities where dating is not a "joke."

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

Provo, UT

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 1 August 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

It's DEADLY serious.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 1 August 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

I would like to go on record as a romantic. In Chicago.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

funny as in weird or funny ha-ha?

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 1 August 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

I even have a shirt with ruffles on it.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 1 August 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

roffles

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 1 August 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

I still think a dance party would be raw.

Who knows how to do the cha cha slide?

deej.., Monday, 1 August 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

Provo, UT

Ha - as someone with a good friend who lived there, I can say that this is definitely true!

Land Ho (dymaxia), Monday, 1 August 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

a poet's shirt, amanda? sweet

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 1 August 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)

hi everyone. here is my lollapalooza review.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

Read it, and it's good! Can I make one eentsy-teensy criticism though? Do you really want to reference what other critics (you mentioned Sanneh twice!) say about bands/events? I think that most people aren't going to know and/or care about other critics and their reputations and POVs. I guess it depends on who you're writing for. That was just something I thought when I was reading it, so I thought I'd let you know.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

i was hoping to see my witchy mascis photo in there. :( otherwise, i liked it! although i thought the killers set was pretty good. everyone around me was really into it, despite it being day 2 of baking in the sun. especially the pushing-50 couple (who sang the words to every single song) who were standing right in front of me. considering how popular they've become, i would probably never see them otherwise, so it was pretty fun.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

that said, i would not do it all over again if i had a choice. last month was grueling.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

I enjoyed reading it too. I especially liked the bit at the beginning referring to the ideals of lolla over the years.

JOHN, HAVE YOU LISTENED TO THE SEKRET PROJEKT/ TOUCHTONE WIZARDS CD YET???!!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

JOHN HAVE YOU MADE ME BREAKFAST YET?
ALSO, WHAT CELEBRITY DO I LOOK LIKE?

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

1. I think Stylus readers might be interested in the views of Mr. Kelefa Sanneh.

2. I love Sekret Projekt. Surrriously. Have not yet made it to the Touchtone Wizards part of the CD yet.

3. Get off my back, Amm3rman.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

I think that most people aren't going to know and/or care about other critics and their reputations and POVs.

Well, it is for Stylus. And most people who read about rock on any regular basis do care about what other critics say. It's like Ebert referencing Pauline Kael, which he does quite a bit.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

4. I am a million years late for work, see you all soon.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

but who's going to tell me what celebrity i look like?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

k - how's your ceiling?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

Landlord Man is supposed to come have a look at it today. That's a good first step, anyway. Someone needs to bear witness to this horror.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)

It was hot last night. It was still 80 degrees at midnight when I went to sleep. I went to bed clean, and woke up grimy. I hate that feeling.

Apparently Chicago is full of Nazis. Not Neo-Nazis -- Nazis.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

No kidding. The ceiling should not be plopping onto the floor. That's a basic tenet of decent housing.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

I know. It's a little more than needing a coat of paint. This never even happened on "Good Times."

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

I liked the article! Especially the bit about the Digable Planets set.

Hey Jenny, Maddie and I watched a bootleg dvd of Undead last night. After reading Ebert's review I wasn't expecting much, but it was actually pretty awesome.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

I, too, liked the article. Is it weird that reading it made me glad I didn't go?

dan m (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

Nope.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

(And thanks, yo.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Not at all. I get the feeling that the only reason jaymc is glad he went is because he got to write about it.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that was def. part of it. I mean, I did like parts of it, as I hope my review made clear, esp. Digable Planets and the Arcade Fire.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

But on the other hand... yeah.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

And, I liked the reference to the Intonation write-up. I wouldn't have known about that if it wasn't mentioned.

dan m (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

A brazen, shameless attempt to direct people to my blog.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

It is decided. I will eat lunch today at Ashkenaz Deli. I'm drooling already. Hot pastrami on challah, with a side of that heavenly potato salad.

Today I'm feeling: kosher.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

if anyone wants to read my blog, i put up a really hurried, shitty review of the 4th CROW movie

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Well, (aside from jaymc's blog) I was really referring to the Sanneh article.

(And this response, which is also interesting. Yeah, I'm bored at work.)

dan m (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

ASHKENAZ.

You make bad movies sound awesome, Mandee.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

Oh right, Dan. Oops. Yeah, I have no idea why Carl Wilson isn't talked about more (maybe because he's in Toronto?): he's a smart dude.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

Oh see I'm oblivious, I had no idea who he was. Just follwing random links. Ah, office work.

dan m (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

But my point is that few people do know who he is. I only found him because my friend Eric mentioned him to me. But he very rarely gets talked about in the blogosphere, even though I think lots of what he has to say would be interesting to ILM-type folks.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

You know how I mentioned once that I sometimes call in food orders for the office? Well... today they've asked me to call one in, even though I'm not ordering anything! A line has been crossed!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

Heh. Like I said, I'm oblivious... :)
xpost

dan m (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Time for a showdown, Sarah.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

There is an "administrative assistant" here who faxes/calls in our food orders every day. She makes me nervous. Very tight curls.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

I should probably just put this on a coworkers thread, but anyway...

I just handed a FEDex package to a coworker.

ME: This just came for you.
HER: Wait a sec. This doesn't say who sent it! Sarah, you better open it!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

It's like you're a food-taster or some shit.

dan m (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

ASHKENAZ.

Yes. And pastrami. They do it well.

I was unaware until recently what pastrami even is. It's simple -- beef brisket, soaked in brine (which turns it to corned beef) and then smoked (which turns it to pastrami). Spices are essential, but technically all you need is salt-cured and smoked brisket.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

Interesting. I love pastrami, but I never really considered what it is exactly.

On Saturday, I had a salami (medium) sandwich on rye with a cheese blintz and a potato latke with applesauce. It tasted like happiness.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

I love that feeling at a deli that you're eating some serious old-world food. No one would bother to invent corned beef in the age of refrigeration. That shit is ancient.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Nice! Sarah, open this in case there's ANTHRAX in it!

Will you come over and smell this milk for me, too?

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

I've got some yogurt that smells weird. Sarah?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

How to depress yourself in five easy steps:

1. Finish one year of law school.
2. Harbor a strong belief in justice for the working people and a desire to help even the playing field.
3. Sign up for your school's on campus interview program.
4. Notice that out of the 30 or so firms that meet your location criteria, only one doesn't represent employers.
5. Contemplate the choice of working for < minimum wage stipends for the rest of your life OR giving up everything you believe in, including why you went to law school in the first place, so you have a snowball's chance of paying off your student loans one day.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

What does it mean to "represent employers"? And why is this a bad thing?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

She means ass opposed to workers. There's not a lot of money in representing people who don't have any money, even if it's because they're getting screwed.

Still, that path to unhappiness seems rather tortuous. I can depress myself in two steps.

1. Be flat broke
2. Drink too much

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

But can't a firm represent both employers and workers? I'm sorry, I don't really have much understanding about the legal profession.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

:( Jenny, I need to bring my husband up there to commiserate with you. Although he's probably not as idealistic, haha.

Is it jewish deli day in the midwest? I am enjoying an incredible pumpernickel bagel from Shapiros in downtown Indianapolis.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

But can't a firm represent both employers and workers?

this would probably lead to so much conflict of interest you would just vapor-lock. Also firms tend to do either defense or prosecution (although some do both).

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

hey sarah, is that your real email address? i'm asking because i need to send you something and i don't want it to go to a junk address.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

How far away are you willing to work/move, Jenny?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

this would probably lead to so much conflict of interest you would just vapor-lock. Also firms tend to do either defense or prosecution (although some do both).

What if the employers and workers are at different companies?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

Also, does anyone want to see Hustle and Flow at City North 14 tonight for $5 night?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

Hey are we going to say goodbye to Amst. over beer tonight or what? I work until nine but will ride my bike with much swiftness to where ever good byes are being said.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

Hey are we going to say goodbye to Amst. over beer tonight or what?

This is the first I've heard of this! Tell me where to be and I will be there.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

That is Sarah's correct email address in her login.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

Representing employers:

It's not always bad. Some employers and law firms work together to try and make the work place as law-abiding as possible (to avoid the expense of litigation) and that's really good. Probably most places where everybody here works, where workers are treated well and benefits are reasonable and sexual harassment is readily addressed if it happens and everybody gets paid, etc., are represented by firms like the ones participating in the on-campus interview program. I think it's great that businesses consult attorneys to make sure they are treating workers well and lawfully.

BUT! My experience has been that with larger firms that represent larger businesses, it's less about working with employers to ensure that the workplace is lawful and pleasant, and more about figuring out just how close to breaking the law the employer can get without actually having to suffer any consequences. Or to put it in money terms, since it's always all about money, how little any given employer has to spend and still protect itself against litigation.

This often also includes representing employers in lawsuits filed by workers for discrimination, wage and hour violations, worker comp claims, or Fair Labor Standards Act (the law that governs when, where, and how employees can organize unions and what shitting things employers can legally do to stop them) violations. Those things are, of course, what I do all day, except I help workers bring those claims.

It would be unreasonably naive of me to assume that every single case brought against an employer is legitimate, but I think the vast majority of them are. Most of the time, employers aren't interested in fixing a problem but rather just escaping bad press and the costs of a court case.

Here are some "scenarios" from one firm's website that I find particularly frustration:

You are about to terminate an employee for a chronic absence problem, when she “reminds” you that she suffers from diabetes and impaired vision, and asks for a reduced schedule as a “reasonable accommodation.” What do you do?

Business conditions force you to reduce staffing by 15 percent. Does the WARN Act apply? How do you minimize the risk of litigation?

Your company is recruiting a key executive. How do you design an employment contract that will lure him to the company, promote good will, and also protect the company’s interests?

Two former sales associates file suit claiming sex discrimination, sexual harassment and retaliation. How do you defend against these allegations?

The only things that the firm, and the business, are concerned about are attracting executives and saving money. I just compare this sort of thing with what I see every day and get a little ill.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

frustrating, not frustration and sorry that's so long. I don't mean to use ILX as my own personal venting space. I have my own website for that nonsense.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

Oh and this is scary because it's the photo one firm chose to use to best represent their firm:

http://photos21.flickr.com/30679349_5a25a476df_o.jpg
Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe: Keeping people of color and most women from making partner since 1934.

And I thought Am. was leaving tomorrow and has wanted to meet up for drinks some night prior to his departure? I hope so because I'd like to say goodbye before he leaves.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

(what is your website url again?)

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

I think we would all like to wish amateurist a fond farewell but unfortunately none of us have been in touch with him and he hasn't been on this thread in a while.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

Also, does anyone want to see Hustle and Flow at City North 14 tonight for $5 night? I would! Well where is City North 14?

deej.., Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

Ok, so remember how I so kindly called in a food order? Well, one guy complained to me that he hardly had any toppings on his sandwhich. Everyone had thier toppings listed under their sandwhich and I read off exactly what was on there! GRRR! I'm not a sandwhich artist!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

I would! Well where is City North 14?

Diversey and Western. It's playing at 8:05, 9:15, and 10:10. But I'd like to see Amateurist, too, so if something's happening with him, I'm gonna go to that instead.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

What if the employers and workers are at different companies?

you would have to ask every employer if they had ever employed any worker you'd ever represented, and you'd have to ask every worker if they'd ever been employed by any employer you'd ever represented. You would severely limit your opportunities to represent large companies especially.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Someday I will pursue my dreams and to back to sandwich art school.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

doesn't amateurist have a phone number? i only recently learned that he has a name.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

There are so many good reasons I am not a lawyer. (Kisses to all my law-school and lawyer friends, tho!)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

I have a phone no. for amateurist. Maybe I should call him. Hmmmmm.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

but i am shy

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

amateurist is sort of like the wizard of oz.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

ha ha, why?

I just left him a message telling him to get his ass on ILX.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

I have his number! I'll call him!

xpost: nevermind. Thanks, n/a!

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)

all-knowing, all-powerful...and, in the end, human just like the rest of us. just like the wizard of oz.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

teeny has reminded me of the tasty tasty Rugelah available at Shapiros.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

I emailed him, too. Full frontal nagging!

I *heart* rugelah.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

So this afternoon I've been setting up my new computer here at work. I gotta say: this is one hell of a box for someone who fucks around on messageboards... Dual 2ghz PowerPC with 1.5 gigs of RAM. The only thing I don't have is the studio display. But that doesn't matter because the thing is just studly.

dan m (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

Any updates on tonite?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

Yes! I was just coming to post it. Amst. says he's got a lot of stuff to do tonight and tomorrow, including packing and loading a truck and doesn't have time to say goodbye, alas, but that he will be back in December and we can drink beer and talk about movies then.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

Aw.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

I know. Boo.

I wish there was a size between Venti, which makes me overcaffeinated and anxious, and Grande, which is not! enough! coffee! at Starbucks. Then I would truly be a happy woman.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

i had a dream last night about division street and n/a and sarah. it was quite pleasant and there were lots of cute doggies in it.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 02:05 (twenty years ago)

stence! That's so sweet. Especially since we all live a block off Division Street, so it's all appropriate and stuff.

Wish you were here.
xxoo

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 02:12 (twenty years ago)

hey guys, i'll be back in december in all likelihood, and will get in touch. have some nice months. be kind to chicago, and it will be kind to you.

(n/a i got your message late and i was out and i didn't want to call you late at night on a weekday. i've also lost your email so email me and we can stay in touch.)

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 04:56 (twenty years ago)

Am, you should start a blog about all those early black and white movies you like and which dead film stars you're crushing on. I'd read it! Have fun studying film. I'm sure you will.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

Amateurist, you can start that blog with my dear friend CHM who is your cosmic doppelganger. He's doing the same thing you're doing except in Gainesville, FL. You two would either be the best of friends or have an epic rivalry.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Epic!

I always wanted a nemesis. I mean, not just an enemy, but a real NEMESIS.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

Arch-nemesis!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

The U. of Florida English Dept. was in my top five potential grad schools back when I was scouting out that sort of thing.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

(And mostly because they seemed very amenable to doing cultural studies and film.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

Kelsey just called me; she says she will not be able to make karaoke this weekend. :(

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

this is a summary of a paper he wrote. http://t06.cgpublisher.com/proposals/4/index_html

see? they're twins.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

This paper will elaborate and promote a method of instruction in film analysis that replaces the interpretive, metaphoric hermeneutics students traditionally have been taught, one based on an alphabetic, linguistic mode of comprehension, with an extrapolative, metonymic heuretics based on the visual, electrate mode developed by Gregory Ulmer.

I think this sentence would make Am puke, frankly (no offense to your friend).

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

Ok. Well, that's good, because I don't understand a word of it. I told you he was pretentious! I love him, but he's pretentious.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

Epic rivalry it is, then.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

One time he left a message on my machine at home talking about "auratic" something or other and I thought he said "erotic" and a hilarious misunderstanding ensued wherein I thought he was asking me for erotic childhood photos of myself with Kenny Rogers.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Ahem.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

i once said amateurist is the american pinefox but im not sure how accurate that is

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

Wait, does this mean you have auratic childhood photos of yourself with Kenny Rogers?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

How old is the Pinefox, Mandee? (Also: did you see my apology re last night?)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

xpost. I guess so. I have no idea. I have a photo of myself trying to climb Kenny Rogers like a tree. What the hell is "auratic"?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

Pinefox is 31 or so, I think?

And yes, I did, when I woke up this morning--no worries. I was a bit drunk, though, and probably not making much sense.

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

I just researched it. From what I can tell, it derives from "aura," so it has something to do with auras, but more broadly to do with subjective experience?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Something like that. It seems like it could be a useful term, if I could only pin it down.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Kelsey just called me; she says she will not be able to make karaoke this weekend. :(

Noooooo!!! Crap! This is sad.

Speaking of karaoke, if we want to go somewhere different, where should we go instead?

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) Viz. my interest in phenomenologically based criticism.

NOW WHO'S PRETENTIOUS (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure if I've mentioned it officially, but there is a good chance Maddie and I will be in Chicago this weekend (for Comic Con!), and if we are there is a good chance that we will go to karaoke.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

I agree -- no Kelsey = sad. I wanted to meet her.

The way my friend explained it, "auratic" is something about the essence of an aura, like the way that people radiate on screen/in photos versus the way they decidedly do not radiate in real life, and the disparity between these two images. Something like that.

+Jordan and Maddie = yay!

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Kelsey promises that after this weekend she will be free for a while. (I think she is going to a bachelorette party?) She will tell you, I'm sure.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, my brother in meat, I got the most kick-ass salami from the deli yesterday. They sliced it so thin you can almost SEE THROUGH IT.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

hey jordan, are you + maddie going to be in chicago the weekend of aug. 14? because if you are, you're welcome to my birfday bbq kickball party.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

This theatre production, which I just found advertised in my e-mail for some reason (I must be on some mailing list?), sounds cool:

"WHERE WE LIVE Justin D.M. Palmer’s ‘site-specific’ comedy, set in a genuine Wrigleyville apartment, runs a young couple through a 14-date steeplechase, each scene unfolding as though they’d just met. This threatens to land somewhere between Groundhog Day and 50 First Dates, but fortunately it’s more reminiscent of an old Kids in the Hall routine. The fresh-faced Cliff Chamberlain and Chelsea Cutler rocket through the dizzying variations on a theme—internal monologue, six-string serenade, Spanish-language version—hitting every comedic button with sure-handed nonchalance, and Palmer has a nice turn near the end as the dreaded cock-blocking roommate. It’s all ultralight, but the writing sparkles. And the free preshow beer and snacks are pure huckster genius --Brian Nemtusak Through 7/30: Thu-Sat 9 PM. 3700 N. Fremont, 773-456-2329. $15 (includes pre- and postshow receptions)."

(BTW, that critic, Nemtusak, used to post on ILX back in late 2003.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

my brother in meat

Just don't call me that in public, ok? People will talk.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

I actually have a feeling there's a lot of theatre in Chicago I'd really like, but I never hear of it -- despite having more than a few friends involved in the theatre community here.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

How does one go to Comic Con?

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

Cars are a popular mode of transport, I imagine.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

smartass ; )

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

it was late fall in the dream. the wendy's on division just west of ashland was being remodeled. division had been blocked off west of it, for a couple of blocks, by a gigantic hospital that mayor daley had decided to put there to replace the old cook county hospital (looked kinda like it, too). i was walking that way, and ran into a woman who looked exactly like sarah walking a french bulldog. i said "are you sarah mcclusky?" over and over to her and she said "no but i know who you're talking about, i'm on my way to meet her and nick at the dog walk." so then we walked around the big hospital, to where division restarted, though a lot of the old buildings had been torn down (i expressed amazement that phyllis's was still there). then we went to a big park in front of a ukrainian church, where about 100 people or so were walking their dogs, and there was also a farmer's market, but i lost the sarah doppelganger. i remember someone telling me "nick and sarah will be here any minute."

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/conventions/chicago.cfm

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

So, I guess that play isn't running any more, since it says "Through 7/30." Oh, well. For a second there, I thought about doing something cultural!!

hstencil, I am very interested in that dream, though I don't know of a wendy's on division. On the other hand, I never eat fast food, so maybe there is one and I just never noticed it.

I wouldn't own a bulldog. They aren't twee enough, duh.

Phyllis's is still there. Be amazed! We played there once even!

In other news, if I met the dudes from clerks, my mom would be SO jealous. She seriously thinks they are the funniest guys ever in the history of the world. I can't decide if it's sad that they still look like their characters or if it's kind of comforting.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 16:45 (twenty years ago)

french bulldogs are pretty twee.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

http://www.kateconnick.com/postcards/lulu0704.jpg

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

I don't know of a wendy's on division.

It's at Division and Ashland, right next to the Pizza Hut. Right next to my apartment. I've never eaten there, either.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

hey guys! im taking pictures of CHEESE! lots of it! and i get to keep it! yay!

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

Dream job.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

So, I guess that play isn't running any more, since it says "Through 7/30."

No, the e-mail that I got said it's extended through this weekend!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

But my point is that few people do know who he is. I only found him because my friend Eric mentioned him to me. But he very rarely gets talked about in the blogosphere, even though I think lots of what he has to say would be interesting to ILM-type folks.

And just like that, he's on ILM today!: Whisper? Whistle? Yodel? Hum?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

Oh, duh. That Wendy's is where everyone wants to turn when I'm coming home on Division, right near the post office.

And, yeah, that dog is pretty twee. I apologize. So did you ever actually see me in your dream or just the fake me?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

summerdance today is gonna be great. Andre Hatchet and Joe Smooth! Take me to the promised land plz.

deej.., Wednesday, 3 August 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

I went to Dragon Con in Atlanta once. It was easily the nerdiest thing I have ever done in my generally pretty nerdy life.

I hope that Jordan and Maddie come to Karaoke!

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

Hey Jeff-o, I am on line but can't send email so be on IM okay?

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

OKAY NEVERMIND I'm not on line anymore!

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

i had a weird sensation this morning when i was walking to work. i was looking at people and everyone looked familiar, like a version of someone else i knew at various times in my life, and it got to the point where it was spooky, and i started to think that some of the people i was seeing were people i would know in the future. it felt like i was walking through time and my life vertically, but horizontally too and it was really weird.

and really, i was just walking to work. it's just another boring day at the office. such a BORING day at the office. living in a fantasy world: c/d?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

I do stuff like that all the time, Amanda, so welcome to my world! I moved around a hell of a lot growing up, so I would always think I saw someone I recognized from another city/life. That's a bit less likely now, since I moved several states away. But anyway, yeah. Sometimes when I'm driving, I wonder about the people riding in cars going the opposite direction. Will I ever meet them? Maybe I have already and I forgot?

When I was younger, I used to think about my soulmate all the time. Maybe we passed each other in an airport? Maybe we were in the same grocery store together? Blah ti blah ti blah

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

Well, that's a relief. I think I might be deeply bored. Which is really a sin in my book -- I don't believe that I should ever be bored. Bored is for the boring, right? Maybe a major lifechange is in order. I guess I start to daydream when I feel like a robot.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

Imagination is a good thing! IT doesn't mean you're boring. It means you won't put up with just being bored. At least, that's what I tell myself.

I realized at some point that I may have even seen people from my past again, but not known it because they would be ALL GROWN UP.

Sarah McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

Imagination is a good thing! IT doesn't mean you're boring. It means you won't put up with just being bored. At least, that's what I tell myself. i agree wholeheartedly.

i saw this guy who i went to preschool with one time at a bar and i recognized him and he was extremely freaked out. i actually did that a couple of times. i can't help it. preschool was the first time i had ever socialized. of course i remember those people and who peed his pants a lot. (i'm talking to you, jason bently!)

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

Wow, I don't really remember anyone I knew in preschool. But more than that, I'm surprised you recognized him as an adult.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

I remember a lot of them-- people don't look that different. I remember little details too, like Candace Metz3l's ponytail holders and how Craig Wolf#engle was like 2x as tall as I was.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

I do remember most people from elementary school. My family moved around a couple of times before I was six, so most of my memories from before then are rather hazy, but from second grade on, my recollections are much more solid, since I had most of the same classmates for four straight years.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

also remember that the boys i knew in preschool were the only boys i knew until boys were reintroduced onto the menu in 8th grade. so they made an impression.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Man. I still see people I was in preschool with on at least an annual basis.

dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

have you known them the whole time, dan? i don't have any siblings, so i'm extremely sentimental about the people i went to school with.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

Yeah and I'm from a really small town, so that helps. Plus, a lot of our parents are friends/work together, etc etc.

dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

I'm also extremely stoked at the moment that I've been referenced by my friend Brad in the lurker thread. He's good people.

dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

He and I went to college together at MTU, which is kind of like preschool but with lots of beer and snow.

dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

sounds like the same place i went to college. (kenyon, in OH)

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

well, except with more literary aspirations than most preschools. of course.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

I went to pre-school in Arkansas and all I remember about it was hating it and being put in the corner for crying and refusing to play with the other kids. I remember some people from kindergarten but that's because we eventually graduated from high school together. I do remember one girl from my after-kindergarten baby sitter because I named by dog after her.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

i wrote a short story one time about this can of planter's pretzels that i waited and waited and waited to eat in my 4 year-old class and the waiting waiting waiting and staring staring staring at the pretzels. i won't tell you whether or not i got the pretzels, but you can probably guess.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

Oh the days when pretzels came in a can. No, seriously. I had forgotten about that but it's true. Cheese balls came in a can, too.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

i LOVED those cheeseballs. seriously loved them. they melted in the mouth, they did.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

cheez balls

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

My first-grade teacher used them as rewards if you did something well, like a perfect spelling test or whatever. They were the most stale, awful, generic cheez ballz ever, and we 7-year-olds couldn't get enough of them.

dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

I can't remember people from High School.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

i feel like dancing.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

Time, place.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

friday, after karaoke? we can't stay there forever...

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

that took 4 minutes.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

the bad news is that i also know for sure that i can't get dan to join me. :( he's definitely not going to be up for the dancing. i'm working on the karaoke part though.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

What's coming up at the SmartBar. I always have a good time there, at least when I'm rip roaring drunk.

Superpitcher in October, and a bunch of other people I don't know. Except Roni Size, blaaaaaaaaaah.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

Only ones I'm interested in are Colette and Superpitcher/Ada.

I feel like dancing to POPULAR TUNES.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

yeah yeah popular tunes.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

Whoa (Sonotheque):

Fri Aug 12

AESOP ROCK & JOHN DARNIELLE

Biz 3 Publicity and PUMA present DJ Sets From: Aesop Rock & John Darnielle (of the Mountain Goats) 9pm - 2am $10 cover

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

Jeff did you even dance at SmartBar when we went for M. Mayer?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

Did anyone notice this in the comments box of my Stylus piece?

Mr. Cunningham, did you have on a yellow t-shirt and brown cords on day one? I took a picture of a dude in that outfit rocking out to M83 because I was so taken by his dancemania enthusiasm at 12:30 in the afternoon.

That was totally me.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

Sorry. Three things to think about. Now over to you.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

i saw that. did you get the picture?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

No. Not yet. Hopefully soon.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

The thing that's great about that John Darnielle DJ gig is -- apart from the tantalizing possibility of hearing "Ignition (Remix)" and Junior Boys -- that I can support him without actually having to listen to the Mountain Goats.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

i gotta run...it's fambly night! i'll check back tomorrow for the wheres and whens of dancing to popular tunes. that sounds like what the doctor ordered for my malaise.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

Jeff did you even dance at SmartBar when we went for M. Mayer?

Nu uh, wasn't feeling well that night, and wasn't nearly drunk enough.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

Dancemania can be a very serious condition. Have you seen a specialist?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, if you're still thinking dancing after karaoke:

Friday August 5, 2005
DJ Major Taylor
"one of Philly’s most ‘ba-donkulous’ party Djs" –Time Out Chicago
Takes over the Ice Factory for a marathon
dance party so you can get your sweat on.
Doors @ 10:00
$5 21+

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

holy shit you gguys have to go to that

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

Why, because it's ba-donkulous?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

So I left work early today because there was a FUCKING SCREAMING MATCH going on in my office. My boss is a complete crazy person. What started the argument was that Michael, the lawyer, lobbist and grant writer (everyone who works for this man has three or four jobs) for a non-profit my boss is try to start got a $10,000 grant accepted. Let me say that again: he got a $10,000 grant accepted. That's $10,000 for the new non-profit. My boss was pissed off because... oh, God, who knows? Probably because Michael did what he could not. He feels left out or something. He was accusing Michael of being only out for himself, and suggested quite firmly that he go work for the person who accepted his grant, because they're "in bed together" now.

Complete nut. So I left. I doubt they even noticed.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

Some more backstory: the only reason my boss is starting a non-profit is to compete with the Great Lakes Commission, a governing body for the Great Lakes, which he was fired from a couple years ago. Nobody wants to work with him. So this isn't a real business, has nothing to do with policy, it's just a vendetta. Everything is intensely personal with this guy.

He didn't get rich by running a business, BTW. He got rich off of patents. He couldn't run a business if he put it on a dog track.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

kenan are you webmaster, personal chef and press lineman for this guy?

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 21:34 (twenty years ago)

Sorry. Had to vent a little. You just can't imagine how crazy this guy is.

webmaster, personal chef and press lineman

I am webmaster, editor, magazine designer (which is a lot of fun, I must admit), administrative assistant, and officially designated Guy Who Fetches Him Soy Lattes from Starbucks.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, go get me a latte and then take this milk to Sarah and ask her if it smells funny.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)

you guys missed some FUCKING AMAZING dancing at summerdance tonight w DJ Andre Hatchet! disco and house and wonderful crazy wild dance party (beat the shit out of superpitcher, and i like superpitcher!)

deej.., Thursday, 4 August 2005 06:09 (twenty years ago)

Hey, you know what's awesome? When it's 81 degrees at 4am. Man, that rocks. Also, waking up sweating and dehydrated. Just about my favorite thing ever.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 07:57 (twenty years ago)

"one of Philly’s most ‘ba-donkulous’ party Djs"
one of them? there's more than one ba-donkulous party DJ in Philly?
where is the ice factory? this sounds fun.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

...and sort of scary at the same time.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

* The Ice Factory fucking rules. We (the Fake Fictions) have played two shows there, both of which were like two of our best shows ever, and we're playing there again next Sat. (the 13th) (and it looks like we might be working those dudes on another...project). It's a little hole-in-the-wall art space at Ashland and Grand, and I wholeheartedly endorse us going to a dance party there.
* Smog show at Empty Bottle tonight is sold out online, but I'm going to run over to the EB after work and try and buy tickets. Does anyone else need me to pick up a ticket for them? Jeff?
* I am interested in the "House Unity Day" SummerDance next Weds., will probably go unless I'm beat.
* Sarah remembered that the other karaoke place recommended to us was Geo's. Has anyone else heard of it?
* Also, has anyone ever been to the weird "Life's Too Short" place at Division and...Elston, I think? Right on the river, with the gaudy junky design/paint job and the giant hamburger and hot dog out front? I've never been there, and I imagine it's like Chuck E. Cheeses for adults, with alcohol.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

yes, you can go ahead and get me a ticket, that would be GREATZZZZZZzz

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)

Okay, we are definitely calling in sick tomorrow and coming to Chicago. Assuming Maddie is up for going out, I have your phone numbers and I'm prepared to use them.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

The Ice Factory it is! I'm relieved to hear that it's not like a dance-club-type place, with a dress code and that sort of thing. All of my club clothes disappeared in the fire.

I've noticed that Life's Too Short place. It looks like somewhere that a middle aged hippie built to hang out with his 3 friends and 15 stray dogs.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

Also, has anyone ever been to the weird "Life's Too Short" place

I don't think it's open. There's a marquis thingie on the roof that has always said "CLOSED FOR R". Renovation? Rat infestation? Rumpy-pumpy? The world may never know.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

If you look back as you go over the Division St. bridge, you see that it has a floating patio thing on the river.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

hi chicago! did i miss bunches?

kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

Yeah it looks like Joe's Crab Shack, only not contrived and corporate. It really *is* a shack. And Joe really *does* have crabs.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

hi kelsey! you missed several bunches, but nothing serious.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

hi!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

Where is Geo's? I'm ready for a new karaoke place. Let's make it happen!

And Philly is just generally ba-donkulous all around so it would follow that all DJ parties within the city limits are bad-donkulous as well.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

I love the Ice Factory! And dancing!

Paunchy, I'm sorry your job is hurting you. Are you coming to kareoke and dancing?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

I just checked, and Gio's only does karaoke on Saturday. (It's a sports bar near the Montrose Brown Line stop. I think I've been there once.)

I just remembered that I did karaoke once at the Blue Frog, 676 N. LaSalle. A couple websites say the bar does karaoke Thurs.-Sat., but I don't know how up to date they are. Also, it was kind of a dive, almost uncomfortably small and with too-bright lights. But it's an option.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

What about this place?
http://metromix.chicagotribune.com/search/25883,0,1932947.venue

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Another one I found: Sidekicks. Kinda far west (Montrose/Cicero). You can look at the song selection in a Word file (I don't see anything more recent than, like, 1993.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Re Midori, I've never been to an actual Japanese karaoke bar. I'm not sure what to expect.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Expect sake bombs.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Neither have I...it could be fun??
And I was looking at that song list and wondering why anyone who's old enough to go into a bar would want to karaoke to "Alouette". Ok, maybe that guy who sings "Clementine" outside of the Wilson stop 24 hours a day, but who else?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

Jingle Bells - Holiday
She'll Be Comin' Round the Mountain - Traditional
Aloha Oe - Hawaiian

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

French Trappers
• Stars- Dave, Mark, Kevin, Scott
• Recurring Characters- Francois, Jacques
• In short- The French-Canadian trappers who trap businessmen for their suits.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Oh, shit. I forgot to practice some songs in preparation. :-(

Whatever. I'm fine if we end up back at the Hidden Cove. But is it kind of far to the Ice Factory from there?

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

I wondered about that, too, Sarah. But the places that Amanda and I found are just as far. So I dunno: I guess I'm leaning toward Hidden Cove again, too, for lack of a better idea.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)

I've never been there, so it's fine with me.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

I'm a horrible singer, you guys. Just so you know.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

I'm a little flat myself. But I have a lot of heart.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

They should have karaoke where they keep the vocals but you have to play the drum part, for Jordan.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

I've always wanted that. Doesn't it exist in (of course) Japan?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

AWESOME

ihttp://www.dialanes.co.jp/gamecorner_jpeg/drummania_v.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

whoa.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

Criminy, I am bored. I don't have a boss until Tuesday, and even then, she'll be working from home. Guess how much work I will be doing until then?

Suggest projects that can be undertaken from a work computer. Or call me at my desk.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

I'm ready for lunch already.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

i'm worrying about what i'm going to sing. actively worrying.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

Draw portraits of your acquaintances in MS Paint.

Define simile, analogy, and metaphor.

Find a karaoke song for Amanda to sing.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

x-post
Taiko Drum master must be the home version of that! I never realized. FWIW I compared Taiko to Donkey Konga and Taiko is much more user friendly. I need a new video game I think. I've pretty much exhausted Katamari but I'm kinda tired of FF and RPGs.
Amanda needs to sing "Every Rose Has Its Thorns" by Poison, which is what I always sing at karaoke.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

I am ready for lunch too. For the month of August, I am eating healthier, which should read as actively working to not snack between meals or eat dessert. So far today I have consumed a cup of coffee and a plum. I have a pouch of vegetarian chili and a La Croix sparkling water awaiting me in the fridge.

My current project is writing bad poetry in Notepad, which I will later post on my blog.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

Cherry Craisins are delicious! Just so you know...

I'm worrying because after perusing their song list for hours, I still can't remember what all was on there that I wanted to sing. OH NO!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

I think Taiko Drum Master is different, since there's an arcade version of that too:

http://www.mykreeve.net/japan/hiroshima/other_views/drum_arcade_machine.jpg

I haven't played any of them. Donkey Konga should be my next game purchase, though.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of arcades, they had a The Penguin doll from Batman:TAS in a claw machine at the mall last night, snuggled amist the Hello Kittys and the plush aliens, and it was great.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

Nick, you may also feel free to figure out directions from the Hyatt Regency in Rosemont to wherever the karoake place is.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

My current project is writing bad poetry in Notepad
I was going to suggest that! I love doing that.

You could also write contributions for my horrifying and terrible encyclopedia blog; if you look at it you'll get the format.
http://misterfeeny.blogspot.com/

(contributions accepted via email)

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

Directions for Jordan

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

http://www.mapquest.com/directions/main.adp?go=1&do=nw&rmm=1&1gi=0&un=m&1da=-1.000000&1rc=L1AAA&1n=COOK+COUNTY&cl=EN&ct=NA&1si=navt&rsres=1&1ahXX=&1y=US&1a=6350+N+RIVER+RD&1c=ROSEMONT&1s=IL&1z=60018-4207&2ahXX=&2y=US&2a=5338+N+LINCOLN+AVE&2c=CHICAGO&2s=IL&2z=60625-2316

Jordan, you know you and Maddie are welcome to stay at our place on our futon if you don't want to pay for a hotel...just FYI.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

Boo, I got there first.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

Why are jaymc's directions so different from mine? Did I fuck up?

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

OMG I LOVE THE ENCYCLOPEDIA BLOG

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that blog is awesome!

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

Why are jaymc's directions so different from mine? Did I fuck up?

Mine are from the Hyatt Regency O'Hare, yours are from the Hyatt Rosemont. I suppose Jordan knows where he's staying.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

thanks. it was my idea. the other contributors are my friends from college and dan. please -- feel free to contribute!

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

That's great, Amanda!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

i always sing "tell it to my heart" by taylor dayne at karaoke

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

I actually started to write a McSweeney's-ish piece using an encyclopedia format a few years ago, but kind of gave up, since I didn't really know what my point was.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

The Encyclopedia Blog is pretty awesome. Maybe I'll try and put an entry together.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for the directions, guys. I shall merge the best parts of each into a set of superdirections.

And thanks for the offer Nick, but I think we're locked into the hotel. The genesis of this trip is partly due to this dude Maddie knows, who has the weird habit of going, "Oh, you're interested in this? Great, I already bought your plane tickets, you can pay me back later." Hence the hotel reservation.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

hey, thanks for the kind words, guys. i was a little sheepish about letting her out of the bag.

mandee -- are you coming with us tomorrow?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and if ComicCon is out in Rosemont somewhere, as it probably is, then it makes more sense to stay out there. Duh.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

Also, mandee lives in Colorado, so I doubt she'll be coming to karaoke. I don't know why she doesn't just up and move to Chicago already, get with the program, mandee.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

Also, mandee.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

i know, tell me about it

i have future plans to move there, someday

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

oh. why did i think she lived here? i guess because everyone knows her. so she's not flying in for karaoke night? i'm chagrined.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Mandee and I talked about this the other night! Move already! You know you want to!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

probably because i post on the chicago thread!! but its the CLOSEST regional thread, geographically--AND SPIRITUALLY

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

nick, i just e-mailed you - but it's a really stupid e-mail, anyway - FYI

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 4 August 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Hooray for the encyclopedia blog! I must contribute.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Please do! I'm hoping that someday it will be on paper, with illustrations like the ones in old encyclopedias. I love those.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I quite get it.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

My brain is fuzzy fried this morning.

err afternoon.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I quite get it.

The encyclopedia blog? It's what you might call bone-dry humor.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Okay, I just probably actually read the entries, instead of skimming.

I often wonder where my sense of humor lies. Somewhere between mean/sarcastic, random/sureal, dry/wet. I don't know. I'm just not funny.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

How do you feel about Bill Murray?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)

I read it as a folk encyclopedia Encylopedia of Widely-held Conceptions and Misconceptions. It's funny!

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

I like Bill Murray, a lot. But I hate Wes Anderson, so it's hard to like him too much in those films, even though he's the best thing about them. My favorite Bill Murray is the 84 to 94 era.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 4 August 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

Apparently, there is at least one REAL Sarah McLusky out in the world. For example... Sarah McLusky said: "Pop music is always very popular with children, so we thought that by combining maths with the Top 40 singles chart, we could make lessons more fun. "They will have to tune into the charts and do their maths homework every week to see how their artists are doing, and we will see who is the best budding pop mogul at the end of the year."

I mean, she sounds like my kind of woman, but I worry I'm giving her a bad name. When you google Sarah McLusky you get ILX threads.

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 4 August 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

That may be so, but if maths are being improved, who are we to judge?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Hey Jeff, I called the Empty Bottle and they aren't selling tickets until the doors open at 9 p.m., from their "limited amount" of tickets. So I'm thinking I'll just get there really early, like maybe 8:30ish, to get in line and make sure I get in. Silly, I know, but I really want to go to this show.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

OH no, Nick! Well, at least you know they have some left.

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 4 August 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

Okay, we can do that. I'll be at your house at 8.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 4 August 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

What is SMOG all about?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

DOPE DAWG.
xpost...or is it?

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

smog

He's that guy that went out with cat power for a while. ha ha

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 4 August 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

maybe jordan needs the parentheses to recognize (smog).

remember (smog)? you know, (smog)?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, THAT (smog)...wait, no, I got nothing.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

BOOOORING.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

I mean, he has an interesting warble. Sometimes.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

I LOVE SMOG, especially the nu-Smog. The cool kids prefer the old Smog, but I like it when he plays pretty songs. Basically he writes kinda minimal but evocative lyrics, sings in a deep voice that's mixed really loud over repetitive instrumentation. He doesn't really sound like anyone else, and he's someone that I have a lot of trouble explaining to people who haven't heard him or don't like him, which reminds me of an ILM thread I was going to start.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

His new album is my favorite new release of 2005 so far. It's fantastic.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

voice that's mixed really loud

kill me

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

Cool! I don't listen to much of the rock music, you know, but it sounds like something I might be into.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

I prefer old smog. I am not a cool kid. My favorite album is Julius Caesar. Hell, I'll just rank them:

Julius Caesar
Red Apple Falls
Wild Love
Doctor Came at Dawn
Burning Kingdom
Dongs of Sevotion
Knock Knock
Supper
Rain on Lens
Sewn to the Sky
Forgotten Foundation
A River Ain't Too Much

Haven't listened to the new one too much.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

smog? husker du?

y'all are some straight-up corny fuxx.

i'm sure white ppl everywhere got your back, tho. have fun!!!

3 (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

and sometimes Knock Knock is super high, depending on mood.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:10 (twenty years ago)

I like smog. I don't like Cat Power.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

I also like The Carpenters, ABBA and Sergio Mendes. White gurlz reprezent!

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

John isn't your favorite band like Stereolab or Dave Matthews Band or Belle and Sebastien or some shit. POT CALLING KETTLE STRAIGHT-UP CORNY FUXX.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

I like Cat Power. Great voice.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

haha jaymc

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

I also like The Carpenters, ABBA and Sergio Mendes. White gurlz reprezent!

See, now this I can get behind! (Except sub in Antonio Carlos Jobim for Sergio Mendes but only because "Mais Que Nada" is the only Brasil 66 track I know.) I like "white" music. (Those quotations are doing a lot of work there, but since I was once planning on writing a Ph.D. dissertation about what I mean there, I'm going to let it slide for now.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

i dont think i have a favorite band anymore :(

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

Sergio Mendes isn't white!

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

EXACTLY.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

Whiteness as metaphor, etc.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

hey jaymc did you ever go out on a date w/ your craigslist secret admirer? not to change the subject or anything...

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

i have like 5 sergio mendes records. i love them all. they're all straight-up corny. not really. no cornier than abba. i also have a best-of CD that i can copy for you if you want.

sergio mendes isn't white, but his music is quintessentially "white people music." isn't it? like the free design. smooth and easy.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

Yes, that's what I mean. I love that kind of stuff.

Craigslist girl never responded to my e-mail, the fool!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

Despite the rep, two Sergio Mendes tunes aren't corny or smooth at all! They're straight-up Brazilian batucada shit. I'm thinking of 'Magalena' and some other tune.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

Jazzy > Jazz
"White" > White

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

ILE>ILM

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

Duh.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

Pitchfork whipping-boy Nick Sylvester was asking me the other week what ILE was all about, and if he should post on it. I couldn't really defend it, though. I mean, obv. I like it, but.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I told him he'd have to make up with "Spencer Chow" first.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

she never responded? that's weird. she must just want to love you from afar.

nick you never prank-called me.

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

she must just want to love you from afar.

Yeah, and I understand that.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

john, did you get your latest copy of lux esto? gail published an essay that would interest you, i think. if not, be on the look out for the latest lux esto!*


*kalamazoo college's alumni magazine

kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I prank-called you and you didn't realize it, because my prank was so awesome?

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

I haven't gotten it yet, but I saw a copy at Colin's house last night. Which essay? Something about whiteness? I'm sad that she can't get her book on the topic published. (Back when she was writing it, I thought maybe I'd be mentioned because of my essay on The Ice Storm!)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

Kelsey, there is an ERIC'S TRIP thread on ILM right now.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

An mp3 for all of Chicago. And Wisconsin, too.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, that one. Well of course.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

See? You know more than Mais Que Nada.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

Perry and Kingsley also covered that "One Note Samba/Spanish Flea" mash-up.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

That encyclopedia is AWESOME. I would love to help out.

Also: I think I will be at the (smog) show. Not sure if I'm rolling solo or what, though, so I'll keep my eyes peeled for ilxors

giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 4 August 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

i can't stop whistling "spanish flea."

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

Red Apple Falls is the best Smog cd. I especially love the Christmassy horns.

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 4 August 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

the eric's trip thread isn't very interesting. :(

kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 4 August 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

ILM isn't very interesting.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

i always think its weird when ppl are all, oh ilm is terrible but ile is where its motherfuckin AT!! cuz whenever i look at ile its like, ok, five threads of twee bullshit, thread of really tired pop culture references to the smurfs or transformers or some shit, TEN THREADS WITH TEXTBOOK INTERNET ARGUING BULLSHIT, would-be 'hilariously absurdist' nonsense threads, etc etc etc... at least on ilm ppl use big words to insult each other
-- trife (...), August 31st, 2003.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

There is nothing in that post that disputes my post.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Haha.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

Also, how is your altar to trife going? Have you installed the BLING yet?

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 4 August 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

nick are you on the phone wth me right now disguised as my sister?

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 4 August 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

bite a guy's style once for the sake of comedy, and now i have an altar?!?!

3 (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

re: boringness of ILM -- i agree. why is that? is it because people always ask the same kind of questions?

i have a question i sort of want to ask but i've been saving it because it's a paper i want to write. i don't want anyone to steal my idea. i might use it in my class this fall, if my professor will let me.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 4 August 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

It WAS a really good bite.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

And we ARE corny foxors.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

http://www.crazyshit.com/site/pics/images/hacker_keyboard.jpg

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 4 August 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

ILM used to be good. < /everyone ever>

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

I was there before ILE was a gleam in ILM's EYE!!!! I WAS THERE.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Thursday, 4 August 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

When Can played its first show in Cologne?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 4 August 2005 22:58 (twenty years ago)

I heard you have a compilation of every good song ever done by anybody.

Good morning Chicago. I am sleeeeeeepy but I had discovered that cold tofu panang curry is AWESOME for breakfast.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 August 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

Good morning. You forgot your popcorn, pulla! oh no! Will you be ok without it until tonight?

I have a lot of work on my desk, but it's Friday, so I don't have to do it, right?

It looks like my mom and sister might be coming next weekend, so I might miss the kickball!

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 5 August 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

Oh no! That's tragic. You could bring them if you want? It's a picnic, after all. Perhaps your mom and sister would enjoy lounging by the lake while we play kickball?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)

I also want to announce that I'm ridiculously excited about the karaoke/dance party plans. What's the address of the Hidden Cove again? I need to figure out how I'm going to get there.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

Hidden Cove: 5336 N. Lincoln

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

Is this where TITTWIS went?

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Friday, 5 August 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

From the ILX dreams thread, in case you guys missed it:

last night i dreamt that most of the Chicago crew came to visit me in Worcester. Nick, Sarah, Kenan, John, Jocelyn and then Oops. I lived in a big apartment and they all showed up and wanted to go out to eat. Kenan was insisting we find a bakery because he wanted cake. He just kept going on about baked goods. We all were outside and I decided i needed to change my t-shirt and I went back inside only to find Kenan and Jocelyn in a rather compromising position so to speak. After rushing outside we all heard Kenan yell out "baaaaaaaked gooooods". Whatever that was supposed to mean. So then Nick decided he wanted to rent a car to go to Sbarro's and he was really mean to the lady behind the counter...he called her a fat lesbian because they didn't have the car he wanted. Then Oops showed up and revealed his real name to be Walter Cariglia. Nick yelled at him too. Well we all made it to Sbarro's which was actually not Sbarro's but a cool club where Nick and Sarahs band played and John joined them. At this point Kenan probably found his baked goods. The end.
-- Lupton Pitman (thebing...), August 5th, 2005 5:07 AM. (Chris V) (later)

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

hahahaha

baaaaaaaked gooooods

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

That's the funniest dream ever!

Are you sure, Manda? I wouldn't want to de-cool your party! On the other hand, I don't even know if they'd be up for that. They'll probably want to go shopping all day, but I'll try to make them at least stop by with me.

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 5 August 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

This is for Sarah:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/junku/sets/303691/show/

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

well, if you can stop by -- SUPER. if not, that's alright too. don't worry about de-cooling the party...remember that you're talking about my birthday party. not a lot of coolness there.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

Self-deprication is sooooo last year.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

whatever dude, my birthday parties are historically AWFUL. not that i wanted to say as much, since it would ensure that none of you came to this one, but seriously. nothing but duds.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

but don't let that stop you! come to my birthday bbq kickball party!

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

So last night, long about 11pm, I decided that I really REALLY wanted some food from Wendy's. So I walked over there, and the main place was closed, but the drive-thru was open. So I tried walking through the drive-thru. No go. Against the rules, they said. So I tapped on the window of the next car that came by (which happened to be full of cute latinas).

"They won't let me order from the drive-thru. Here's ten bucks. Order me this and this [about 7 bucks worth of food] and keep the rest."

Right about that time, two dudes walked out of Wendy's. "What are you doing? You can't order from the drive-thru unless you're in a car. Unless you get in the car with them, we can't serve you."

"That's stupid," I said. "Look, I'm giving these girls money. They're going to buy me food. I'm going to wait in the parking lot next door, and they'll pull around and hand me my food. That's what's going to happen."

They mumbled something and went back inside. What were they going to do, bounce me? The food-getting went as planned. I had a burger and french fries and a really big Coke, and I was very happy. The end.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

Oh, and I didn't get the job at cars.com. Just got the standard brush-off email. I WAS SO QUALIFIED FOR IT IT WASN'T FUNNY. *sigh*

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

Hmm I still haven't heard anything at all from cars.com, not even the brush-off.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

I can't decide if I should email or call or just wait.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

man! what's wrong with these people? i have a theory that they're consciously hiring less-promising people because they're more certain that they'll stick around. this does not bode well for smart people.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

cretins. well, hopefully i'm wrong.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, it was weird, in the interview Nancy spent most of her time warning me about the job, as if to say, "You don't want it." Everyone else loved me, but I kinda got the feeling she had already decided against me. I think that's why I was so nervous in front of her. There was this oppression when she came into the room. She went on and on about how boring the job is, how monotonous the work is, how if I'm looking for more teamwork I might be in the wrong place because this is a really quiet team (turning my "teamwork" line back on me! Bitch!) and other odd assertions. I'm just remembering all this now. I think it adds up that she thought I was overqualified.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

hi chicago. i am feeling guilty for not being on this thread more often. work smells.

xpost: i once got turned down from a job b/c the woman interviewing me thought i was overqualified & i'd be really bored working there. she's probably right, but you know, you're out of college & unemployed & you just want a place to call "work."

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

KELSEY!

I guess I should just email the HR guy today because even if he emails back and says they hired someone else, hey, at least it's Friday.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

small story before i go back to smelly work:

i inquired about this apartment in minneapolis yesterday ... asking what utilities they covered & what their pet policy was. i told them (stupidly) that i had "two small, caged pets." once they found out what animals i had, they told me that they "only allow cats & dogs. sorry." the scamps!

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

What time tonight, guys? Last time we met at 8 pm, but karaoke didn't get going in earnest for another hour probably.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

Also, Chris V: that dream made me giggle!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

We need that extra time before karaoke for inebriation, and to monopolize the sign-up sheet.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

kenan, i had almost the exact same experience at the wendy's drive-thru, in chicago - except a lady picked me up and i sat in the baby seat while she went through the drive-thru. She was also extremely drunk.

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

Good point, Nick.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

I'm remembering more about the interview suddenly. Like Melissa saying to me, "With a resume like this, why do you want to work at cars?"

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

"Because I hate my job?"

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

"BECAUSE I'M GROSSLY UNDERPAID AND GET NO BENEFITS AND HAVE NO MEDICAL INSURANCE AND CAN'T AFFORD MEDICATION AND BARELY EVEN RENT AND YOUR BORING JOB PAYS $10,000 MORE THAN I'M MAKING NOW JUST GIVE ME A JOB OR I'LL BURN THE PLACE DOWN!"

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

every interview i get it seems like they try and downplay the job, like "oh this is boringg.. you'll get sooo bored!" and/or grill me about why i want to leave my job.. when that happens i immediately know I won't get it

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

what i'm wondering is why no one said that to me when i got this job, because it's WICKED BORING.

so what time are we meeting tonight?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

spend much time on the east coast, amanda?

kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Yeah -- it's WICKED AWESOME in Ohio!

Actually, no. No I haven't. Now I have to go out for yet another coworker goodbye lunch. Ugh.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

Kenan whenever I've heard that in interviews I think it's because they're worried I'll jump ship as soon as something better comes along. (and they were usually right.)

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

Kenan didn't you once work in a bakery or something?

Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I know. And only having been at this job for a year was a bad sign. It's hard to delicately explain all the things that are bad about this job -- you can't just say, "My boss is certifiable and I'm being taken gross advantage of." Or can you?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

haha I've worked in a lot of bakerys. I HATE baked goods.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

nick you should name that song about teenage angst "Walter Cariglia"

Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

xpost Mandee that's amazing! I think Wendy's got mad at me during the free frosty promotion because I got my frosty and then blatently walked across the parking lot to Long John Silver's to get hushpuppies.
I agree that they often overlook the best qualified people in favor of lesser ones who have more guaranteed longevity.

baaaked goooods (Jocelyn), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

The Ballad of Walter Cariglia

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

it has a nice rhythm, the BAllad of WALter caRIGlia.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

xpost How would you pronounce that last name? Car-ig-li-ah?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

job searching sucks

Miss Misery (thatgirl), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

yeah like culigula...or however the fuck you spell it.

Lupton Pitman (Chris V), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

It might be ca-REE-lee-uh.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

it has a nice rhythm, the BAllad of WALter caRIGlia.

The anapestic meter, though, might make it more appropriate for Colin Meloy ("pantaloons," "petticoat," etc.).

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

but car-IG-li-a sounds nice when i sing it in my head. rhymes vaguely with amygdala.

colin m. sings his word-final r's with a weird fake accent and for that, i can't forgive him. he doesn't own the sea shanty!

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

WHO IST CARIGLIA?

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

good question...who IS walter cariglia?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

Walter Cariglia looks a scream
Hang him on my wall!
Walter Cariglia, Silver Screen
Can't tell them apart at all!

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Another one of those things I'm afraid I've mentioned before, but I once dreamt that someone was quizzing me on who wrote the Madeleine books, and I confidently replied "Henri Delacourt." Who, of course, doesn't exist.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure he does somewhere. Perfectly plausible name.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

The Ebert review of Dukes of Hazzard is the funniest thing I have read in a long while.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, Thanks so much for the crazy cat link! I added him as a contact so I can look at flying or bathing cats all the time.

Kels, I got that a lot when I was unemployed about 4 years ago. I had been out of college 2 years with a job I hated and I kept getting turned down for jobs because I was overqualified. I even remember telling one interviewer that I realized that, but was getting that response everywhere and needed a job. That didn't help me though.

When is the Ice Factory danceathon getting started? Because I hope we don't miss it.

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 5 August 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

I didn't get the cars.com job either, buggery.

Dance party starts at 10, and will probably go on...forever.

I suggest: karaoke at 8, leave there around 11 or 12, go to Ice Factory, party until morn.

Kenan, are you coming? You haven't been hanging out.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

In more positive news, I am eating a delicious avocado.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 16:25 (twenty years ago)

So, what do you want to talk about?

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 16:29 (twenty years ago)

I don't know, what do YOU want to talk about?

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

I did the talking-to-yourself trick already on this thread.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

I love Ebert reviews like the one you linked, Nick. It's like, the movie is so bad, he can't even get worked up about it, so the review reads as a weary sigh, while occasionally finding things to amuse himself by.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

im eating a very delicious avocado as well, nick

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 5 August 2005 16:42 (twenty years ago)

Highlight: "It's a retread of a sitcom that ran from about 1979 to 1985, years during which I was able to find better ways to pass my time. Yes, it is still another TV program I have never ever seen. As this list grows, it provides more and more clues about why I am so smart and cheerful."

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

or: "As it happens, I also drove a 1969 Dodge Charger. You could have told them apart because mine did not have a Confederate flag painted on the roof."

or: "Surely if you have seen, say, 12 scenes of a car flying through the air, you are not consumed by a need to see 12 more."

Deadpan weariness is OTM.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

The Ebert Stealth review was hilariousosuos too.

xpost: interviewing and jobs. Fuck that shit, I fucking hate when they assume that your overqualifed and bored. No shit@! I'm going to be bored at every goddamn job I take, but don't you realize how I need to pay my damn rent//???/ I'll sit around and count dots on the ceiling right now if I got paid for it. WITH PLEASURE AND GLEE

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

Like Sam said, they're afraid you'll leave in six months if you're bored. My solution: if I seem overqualified for my current position, promote me.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

i'm back from lunch with the coworkers. i almost fell asleep in the basement dining room of La Cocina.

nick and kenan, i'm really sorry to hear about the dipshittery they put you both through. i'm not sure what else to say about that except that i'm disappointed. no mass lunchtime FAPs for us. :(

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

I think my favorite part of the Ebert review was the photo caption: "Jessica Simpson, Johnny Knoxville and Seann William Scott wear clothing in a scene from "The Dukes of Hazzard."" His captions consistently slay me.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

and it's so hard to dumb yourself down in interviews. It must be a fine art, to seem perfectly qualifed, but not TOO qualifed. I suck at it. I'm only good at knocking their socks off.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

Haha, I missed that caption!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

Hey Chicago: how was the Smog show last night? I showed up around 10pm and they were sold out. I went to the Clipper instead.


giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

I'm only good at knocking their socks off.

If I know I'm qualified for the position, I kill. If I know I'm not qualified for the position, I freak. I'm an awful bullshitter.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

It was pretty awesome. xpost smog

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

God DAMMIT.

giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

Who would have expected that Smog would sell out?! (SMOG)?!??!111/!!!

giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

Smog show was pretty dope though my back was killing me. His drummer (Jim White) is insane and looks like Rip Taylor. Played a vicious version of "Bloodflow" and a terrible version of "Justice Aversion."

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

* Smog show at Empty Bottle tonight is sold out online, but I'm going to run over to the EB after work and try and buy tickets. Does anyone else need me to pick up a ticket for them? Jeff?
-- n/a (nu...), August 4th, 2005 9:31 AM. (Nick A.) (later)


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n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

Jim White is a fantastic drummer. I've only seen him with Dirty Three, tho.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

He is fantastic but totally fucking ridiculous.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

YOu are totally fucking ridiculous too! MWAH!

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

I like his flair. Limp wrists high about his head, then crash. I never expected so much and such loud drumming at a Smog show. It was rocking though. Also, the guitar player looked like Bill Gates.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

Haha, he DID look like Bill Gates, combined with the weird turtleneck guy who always goes to the same shows I go to and jumps up and down in place in front of the stage.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

* Smog show at Empty Bottle tonight is sold out online, but I'm going to run over to the EB after work and try and buy tickets. Does anyone else need me to pick up a ticket for them? Jeff?

D'oh! This is what I get for not making internet at work as much as I'd like.

giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

a turtleneck? in the summer? that's dedication to the lifestyle.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

It wasn't Mick Turner, also of Dirty Three, was it?

http://www.beat-a-go-go.com/dirtythreepage.jpg

(Turner, White, Ellis)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

We actually got there about 8:30, and had no trouble getting tickets.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

My plan was to be there at 9pm, but curry happened.

giboyeux (skowly), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

He didn't look like that pic of Mick Turner, but then Jim White doesn't look too much like that anymore either.

jaymc, I was thinking this morning about how you don't like Smog much and I was going to recommend that you download "Rock Bottom Riser" off the new album, because it's an awesome song and also Joanna Newsom plays piano on it.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

I think I'll bring mix cds for people tonight to karaoke.
So are we doing HIDDEN COVE at 8 PM?

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Yes.

I've actually heard A River Ain't Too Much to Love If You're A Sad Old Git Like Me, but I only heard it once and none of it left an impression on me. I'll download that song, tho.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

I'm in! Should i take the red line to berwyn and then the berwyn bus to lincoln?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

I'm listening to the Smog show that Robin gave us last night. It's probably the first thing that has made me miss Greensboro. It's the small intimate shows at Gate City Noise, you just don't get that in Chicago.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

A -- there isn't a Berwyn bus. There's a Foster bus that you could take, tho -- it stops at the Berwyn Red Line stop.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

I might be coming. I crave human contact. OTOH, the thought of getting pants-pissing drunk and singing makes me feel icky.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

You don't have to get drunk OR sing, Kenan. Just enjoy our company. :)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

KENAN WHY ARE YOU AVOIDING MY QUESTION: ARE YOU HANGING OUT TONIGHT? DON'T FORCE US TO CALL JESSA AT 3 AM AGAIN.
xpost

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

oh right. will i have a hard time getting home from the ice factory? i might not be able to stay up/out as late as some of you animals.

kenan, you should come. you don't have to sing or drink or laugh at jeff's jokes. or mine. or anyone's.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

how about I meet you guys at the ice factory? I'll have a long disco nap while you guys are singing. That place would take me an hour to get to, at least.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

will i have a hard time getting home from the ice factory?

Nah. It's on Grand and Ashland. Big streets. Lotsa cabs.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

We can give you a ride to karaoke if you want to come but don't want to deal with transport. We promise we won't make you sing, neither jeff nor amateurist sang last time.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

oh, hi!

Now I don't have to fill all y'alls inboxes with dick jokes.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

HOORAY.

I guess we're back to the original plan of karaoke. Sorry for causing confusion, guys.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

yaaaaaaay. back to original plan. can i carpool with someone? i don't particularly want to spend 5 hours on public transpo today.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

Okay!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

I mean... I wasn't planning on driving ... I was just saying Okay! in general.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

For the record, the dance party sounds like lots of fun, but I'm prob. more ambivalent about than than karaoke, just because it's late and far away.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

late and far away...yeah. i agree. whatever happens with that is fine with me. i definitely can't stay up all night again though because i have to kick someone's ass at our condo meeting tomorrow. there are a couple of people who refuse to pay their assessments and i'm really tired of paying their utility bills.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

You live in a condo?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

yeah. i mean, it looks like an apartment. but we own it.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

Well, la-dee-da.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

yeah, whoop-ti-doo.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Haha, I was looking for an image of Diane Keaton as Annie Hall (cuz she says "la-dee-da"), and I found this:

http://www.unzeit.de/poster/Stadtneurotiker_Der/Stadtneurotiker_Der_72.jpg

German speakers, please translate?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

I have no idea what happened to that image.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, it's an Annie Hall poster, and the German title is "DER STADTNEUROTIKER."

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

John, earlier I was saying people could come to my apartment to meet up if we weren't doing karaoke, just dancing. But now we are, so never mind!

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

The State Neurotic-er
You're welcome.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

Oh okay, sorry, Sarah. I think I missed the part where the plan had changed. I thought we were all still ruminating.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

Everyone decide for me. My brain hurts. Seems like ideally we could have a karaokke place that is more of a central location, that would make it easier for everyone to go their separate ways when the time comes.

A karaoke room would be awesome, with some BYOB.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

Well unfortunately someplace in between would be like in Lincoln Park and would thus suck verily. So I think we're doing Hidden Cove for tonight at least, and then the hearty and brave may continue on to Ice Factory.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

I sort of wish I hadn't mentioned the Ice Factory now.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

:(

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

But the dj is going to be BA-DONK-ULOUS!

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

yeah - funny you should mention that. i think i started the "let's dance" problem. not that i don't want to dance, because i always do, but...

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

I hereby decide for Jeff: Karaoke at the Hidden Cove it is!

And now... A NAP!

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

I should just be happy about karaoke, because if I think there's a possibility that we might go to IF I won't be able to settle in at Hidden Cove and just keep thinking about when we might leave and if we're going to go and I'll go insane. So yeah. WE ARE GOING TO DO KARAOKE.

I am going to attempt to nap when I get home. I'm not very good at napping though, it's kind of weird.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

It's one of my true talents.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

And it's not stiflingly hot, either! Ooh, this is going to be a great, great nap. I can almost feel my pillow now. I am consumed with nap lust.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

see you guys at 8 (or shortly thereafter). hidden cove. bye.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 5 August 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

NICK, STADT IST CITY, DUMKOPF

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 5 August 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

"The Neurotic City"?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

You know what'd be funny? If ALL of Woody Allen's movies in Germany were called "The Neurotic City."

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

i think it probably means something along the lines of 'the town neurotic"

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 5 August 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

Oh.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

The movie isn't just about him, though.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 5 August 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

"the urban neurotic" - sorry

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 5 August 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

ive never understood why 'license to drive' was called 'daddy's cadillac' in germany

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 5 August 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

hi.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 6 August 2005 06:28 (twenty years ago)

no one else is still up? karaoke was fun, you guys.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 6 August 2005 06:44 (twenty years ago)

wooooooooooo, fun

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 6 August 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)

THAT'S RIGHT.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 6 August 2005 07:35 (twenty years ago)

hi, chicago. what songs did you sing?

robots in love (robotsinlove), Saturday, 6 August 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)

Nick: Rock the Casbah, Need You Tonight
Sarah: Beat It
John: Under the Bridge, Joyride
Jenny: Cruel to Be Kind

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 6 August 2005 09:20 (twenty years ago)

Sarah sang something else, too. I'm blanking.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 6 August 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

Morning. Jeff and Jenny's couch was comfy.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 6 August 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)

Sarah sang... shit. It was a pop punk song but I can't remember which one.

I also sang LOVE WILL KEEP US TOGETHER. I also woke up still wearing my bra this morning. Classy!

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 6 August 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

I also sang All the Small Things. My other boyfriend (don't tell n/a!) sings that one.

You guys, afterwards when we went to the diner, I got a slice of apple pie and IT HAD NO APPLES IN IT! And I asked the waitress if she could bring me a piece of apple pie with apples and she said none of them had apples, so naturally I filled out a complaint card that said, "My apple pie had no apples in it. That's ridiculous."

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Saturday, 6 August 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

What is in apple pie that has no apples in it?

Oh I forgot that I joined Robin to yell DOWNTOWN into the microphone every once in awhile.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 6 August 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

The Hidden Cove was crazy last night. It was more like a sing along bar than a karaoke bar.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 6 August 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

OH! It was really nice to meet Maddie. Our brief but very pleasant conversation about comics has inspired me to read more comics.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 6 August 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

It had a thin layer of that gooey compote stuff that usually accompanies the apples.

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Saturday, 6 August 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Also, I puked last night. Right outside the hidden cove. Not that that is out of character for me.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 6 August 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

4 beers + 3 Jim Beams + 2.5 Long Island Ice Teas make Jeff something something.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 6 August 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

Puke outside the Hidden Cove?

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 6 August 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

Don't mind if I do!

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 6 August 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

Your comic timing is impeccable.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 6 August 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Yes, that was surprisingly funny!

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 6 August 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

Have we talked about the Fordham Spire yet? I'm inspired by the LA Downtown thread, on which a lot of people popped up to say, "Ugh! Gehry!" This is silly. Those buildings are fine. Some of them are Gehry ugly (little pun there), but some are very lovely designs. One in particular may be my favorite Gehry design ever.

Anyway. People are talking about the Spire. Two-thousand feet tall, twisty, elegant, and totally, totally beautiful. Fuck the haters. I'm tired of armchair architecture critisism. Not that I'm an expert, but why is everyone's initial reaction to any new building, "Ugh, it's ugly!" Is it cool to hate on new buildings? I rather like them myself, at least in principle. And hating on this building for aesthetic reasons strikes me as supremely silly. Just look at it! It's breathtaking. It's like architecture having a wonderful, giggly dream about itself. Not only will it be the tallest building in America, it may be the most joyous. The Hancock Building is my favorite in Chicago, but this building may succeed in making it look, as someone around here put it, "like an overgrown air-raid bunker." How can you hate it?

And even better yet, it's slenderness keeps the project relatively modest. 250 condos. Not really a big deal, financially. And in part thanks to Daley's restrictions and guidlines, it will be green as all hell. I see nothing whatsoever to object to.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 6 August 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

Also, I don't have the numbers to back this up, but just looking at it, I bet it will handle wind loads like a fuckin' World Champ.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 6 August 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

moving sucks.

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Saturday, 6 August 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

where are you moving, todd?

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 6 August 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

xpost Really? I love it!

< /dripping sarcasm >

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 6 August 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

(also sarah and jenny sorry i forgot your karaoke songs!)

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 6 August 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

I think we all forgot a couple os things last night. Happy childhood memories, maybe.

DAIN BRAMAGE.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 6 August 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

NARM!

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 6 August 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I didn't drink near my limit last night. I felt like a hundred bucks this morning. And I had a great time.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 6 August 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

i am moving all of my crap to a storage place. i will be in chicago for like 10 days starting the 9th i think.

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Saturday, 6 August 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

My hangover didn't hit til after we ate. I think I was just still drunk this morning.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 6 August 2005 21:50 (twenty years ago)

I just emailed some people, in case you check this thread more often then your email. I'm looking at you, Jeff and Jenny.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 6 August 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)

Wait, what did Amanda sing? Amanda sang, too!

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 7 August 2005 08:47 (twenty years ago)

She sang, "I think we're alone now"

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 7 August 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

Wasn't she going to sing a Linda Ronstadt song? Or did we just not get to that?

Also, it's a good thing we did leave before some of our songs came up, because apparently there was an Amy Grant song from 1997 called "Like I Love You," and that must have been what I signed up for instead of the J. Timberlake song. I probably would've just tried singing it, anyway.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 7 August 2005 16:06 (twenty years ago)

Wasn't she going to sing a Linda Ronstadt song?

I may or may not be going out on a limb when I say that "Different Drum" is a great song, and that Mike Nesmith is a great songwriter.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

I'm listening to Lyle Lovett.

I love everybody, especially you.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

I go for penguins.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 7 August 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

Fat babies got no pride.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

And that's ok. Who needs pride?

Lyle is a treat.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

Hi people. I sang! I'm glad someone remembered. I would have gladly attempted "Different Drum" but by the time I made it up there, the atmosphere wasn't at all right for a sweet, short, adorable pop song. Which, if I do say so, is a great song. I chose Tommy James and the Shondells via Tiffany instead. Oh well.

So everyone knows: today there's a book sale in Oak Park where you pay $5 and can take as many books/records (mostly classical)/whatever as you can carry. We went yesterday and I bought some records and this awesome children's book in Esperanto that has the cutest illustrations of mice I have ever seen. And some other books. Anyway, that's going on today.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 7 August 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Nah. Not today. I have Lyle and the Sweetest Cat in the World. I'm staying in.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

hi. I think we're buying a house today.

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

I find it very difficult to resist a library book sale.

Buying a house: exciting!!

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

A short list of songs that are incredibly great:

Lyle Lovett - Family Reserve
Peaches - Lovertits
The White Stripes - I'm Lonely (But I Ain't That Lonely Yet)
Bob Dylan - You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go
Fleetwood Mac - Tusk

Ah, iTunes.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

Buying a house? Awesome. Congratulations!

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

Congradjamalations, Teeny! Aren't buying a house and having a baby two of the top-5 most stressful things ever?

Truckdrivin' Buddha (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

Right behind various kinds of death. Yes.

One more: the Fred Neil version of "You Don't Miss Your Water."

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)

I also nominate "Desiree" by the Left Banke.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

Not by Neil Diamond?

*pouts*

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, I like the way it sounds like a showtune.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

I nominate "Gotta Be" by Des'ree.

haha no, not really (jaymc), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

This isn't adorable! It's heartbreaking!

You and I travel to the beat of a different drum
Oh can't you tell by the way I run
Evertime you make eyes at me
You cry and moan and say it will work out
But honey child I've got my doubts
You can't see the forest for the trees

So don't get me wrong, it's not that I knock it
It's just that I am not in the market
For a boy who wants to love only me
Yeah and I ain't saying you ain't pretty
All I'm saying is I'm not ready
For any person, place or thing
To try and pull the reins in on me

So goodbye, I'll be leaving,
I see no sense in crying and grieving
We'll both live a lot longer,
if you live without me

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

That's why i like it though, it sounds cute but it's really depressing.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

i've had enough humiliating karaoke experiences, i didn't need to start crying up there and bust up the mood.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

lest you think this is symbolic or something, it's not, i just cry easily.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

It's symbolic for me. This is my new official breakup song. We started with "A Summer Song" by Chad and Jeremy, so it's v. appropriate that we should end with "Different Drum."

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

ok. although that makes me sad.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

ok i am going to download this song, you guys.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 7 August 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

You will not regret it.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

I'm kinda surprised you don't know it, but I forget that not everyone has a mother who played Linda Ronstadt's Greatest Hits 10,000 times while he was growing up.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

It's actually the band Stone Ponies, that she sang with before she went solo.

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, but it is on the Greatest Hits record, and nobody owns Stone Ponies records.

Also amazing off that record: "Long Long Time," written by none other than Jerry Jeff Walker. Once upon a time, Ms. Linda had a real ear for a great song.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

My fave album is Hasten Down the Wind, esp
Try Me Again
Down So Low
Lo Siento Mi Vida
Rivers of Babylon

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

I had an early teenage love affair with an album called Lush Life, which is her singing jazz standards with the Nelson Riddle Orchestra.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

My mom rocked the Linda Ronstadt greatest hits but I can't remember that song at all.

Okay, I just looked it up. We were a GH Vol. II household. I don't think we had Vol. I.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

And then she went spanish, which is probably a good thing, because she did quality stuff in spanish. People just started ignoring her, is all.

Wasn't it Jesse that was talking about Rebecca Del Rio's version of "Crying" (Llorando)? I'm suddenly remembering a lot about Friday night. For instance, I made an ass of myself re:Michael Caine. He's 72.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

We were a GH Vol. II household.

Oh, man. Her singing "Tumbling Dice" is a sad thing to witness.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Helen Reddy was the most popular female vocalist in our house, however. I could probably sing that whole album from start to finish right now.

xpost: Aye, it was Jesse. He even sang a little for us.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Man, I'm wrong all over the place today. JJWalker did not write "Long Long Time," he only covered it (beautifully).

Nesmith also wrote a song called "Some of Shelley's Blues" which Ronstadt covers but is not near as good as the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band version. The lyric is so perfectly melancholy and bitter, Elvis Costello would have been proud to have written it.

Tell me
just one more time, the reason why you must leave
Tell me once more why you're sure you don't need me
Tell me again but don't think you'll convince me.

You said
about fallin' in love again you'd rather be dead
When someone breaks your heart you cry your eyes red
There's nothing so hard about the life that you've led.

As far as I can see
there's no reason for goodbye
You're just running scared
and that's something I won't buy

So you lose
I won't let you go, there's nothing to show but more blues
All this talk about leaving is strictly bad news
So you settle down and stay with the boy that loves you

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

For instance, I made an ass of myself re:Michael Caine. He's 72.

Ha!

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

Sarah sang Beat It!!! Or Eat It, possibly.

It was fun hanging out, though it was hard to talk over the karaoke action and Maddie was a bit too tired and stressed to settle into things. Maybe we can go to a quiet bar next time. Are there any libraries that serve alcohol?

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

You win, ok? Leave me alone. I hate you.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Jordan, by the time you showed up I was ready to talk about ear hair. You were not there yet. Next time, we should all start at the same time.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

But really, I had a great time Friday night. The "sing along karaoke" was wild. Never seen that before.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

I enjoyed it. I like when the whole bar got louder, it drowned out Jesse's incredibly annoying, grating, banshee-like table singing.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

Jeff, did you guys get my messages? The gist: I regret my small tiff with Jenny. I mean, you guys were talking during a movie (or something like a movie), but I have no business shushing someone in their own home. Also, that beer you bought me was butality in a bottle. What the fucking fuck.

I like you guys so much.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I got your message about the beer. Glad you enjoyed it.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

I did! But I'm not sure I was ready to.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

Jeff is serious about beer.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

I really have to be in a certain special place to take the World Wide Stout. I don't know if it's a good place or a bad place, but it's certainly hazy.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Jeff is damn near spiteful and hurtful about beer. The story: I'm bummed, ok? Wandering around my place. Decided a beer might be nice. Cracked Jeff's gift from last night. Was very surprised to suddenly find myself as drunk as a skunk. He told me it had a lot of alcohol in it, but this was beyond malt liquor. Twelve ounces of this stuff KICKED MY ASS. I was delirious. I made a mix CD.

This proves nothing except that Jeff knows me too well.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

Also, movie night was fun. We would like to have more people over for movies. I HAVE GREAT TASTE.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

I will come!

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

i love high alcohol volume stouts... especially bell's expedition stout. it gets me so drunk and its tasty.

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

"Don't wanna be like every other girl in the world, like every other one who wants you, cuz when I see you something inside me burns, and then I realize I wanna come first!" -- chorus of Lindsay Lohan's "First"

Innuendo or no?

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

Maybe Wilmer had a little problem...

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

That's one of my favorite rock songs of the year, btw.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

Anyway, I just found myself eating cold spaghetti sauce out of the jar with a spoon, so I'm off to Trader Joe's right now.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 7 August 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

We're eating emu burgers tonight!

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

Really?

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 7 August 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

Yep! Well, we both went into the office today and we might do takeout instead, but we definitely have emu burgers defrosting in the fridge. I can't remember where Maddie got them.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

Reasons I love Jenny:

1) She's really cool.
2) She's really smart.
3) She's soft and good for hugging.
4) She knows I'm a dick, and likes me anyway.
5) She married one of my favorite people, so she has good taste.
6) Did I mention she's smart? No, really. Smart as a whip. Smarter than I'll ever be.

All-in-all, I'm touched that such people are my friends. I know some really great people. Whenever I'm sad, I just think of some of the people I know and how great they are -- Jeff, Jenny, Nick, Sarah, John -- and I realize that if I have friends like that, I can't be all bad.

MOVIES. Yes, let's watch movies in an organized way. Jeff and Jenny not only have good taste, but also have a really nice TV.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 23:15 (twenty years ago)

Oh shit. Speaking of Jerry Jeff Walker, I'm reduced to listening to this:


I could live my whole life
With out a phone call
The likes of which I got today
It was only my wife
Said hello then goodbye
And told me she's goin' away.

I didn't cry
It was all cut and dry
I hung up before I realized
I turned up my stereo
I walked to the window
And stared at the storm clouds outside

I play classical music when it rains
I play country when I am in pain
I won't play Beethoven, cuz the mood's just not right
I feel like Hank Williams tonight.

There's no explanation
Not even a reason
No talk of the good times we had
Was it me was it her
I don't know for sure
That's why I'm feeling so bad

I play jazz when I'm feeling confused
I play country whenever I lose
Bird's saxophone
Just don't seem right
I fell like Hank Williams tonight

Lately I've been thinkin'
I just might quit drinkin'
Now I don't know all in all
I just might stay home
And get drunk all alone
And punch a few holes in the wall

'Cause when I'm real high I play rock and roll
I play country when I'm losin' control
I don't play Chuck Berry
Quite as much as I'd like
I feel like Hank Williams tonight

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

Post your favorite sad songs here!

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 23:49 (twenty years ago)

This isn't my very very favorite song but I like it a lot but the real question here is: Who does this? Googling suggests it's either Space Opera or Le Dust Sucker (or perhaps that's the same person/group recording under different names?) but I just don't know and without this info, my ID3 tags will be sloppy and I will die inside.

Here is the song: http://homepage.mac.com/jenburgess/Mandate_My_Ass.mp3

Thank you in advance for your help.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 7 August 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)

Oh you said favorite sad songs. That song is not sad.

My favorite sad songs are:
Goodnight Lover by Songs: Ohia
Left Only with Love by Smog
Exit Music for a Film by Radiohead
Romulus by Sufjan Stevens
Asleep by The Smiths
Try Not to Breathe by REM

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 August 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)

i can't find the lyrics, nor do i remember ALL of them, but: kurt weill, "lonely house" as sung by lotte lenya.

"i guess there must be something/i don't comprehend/sparrows have companions/even stray dogs find a friend"

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 00:02 (twenty years ago)

Half a World Away by REM

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 August 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

good one, jenny.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

who are you by tom waits is a current fav of mine

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Monday, 8 August 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)

xpost Yeah, ferreal. That song is killer. I used to have an unplugged version... a whole unplugged album... and that was the best thing on it.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)

Three songs that make me cry:

1. "Bird Stealing Bread," Iron and Wine

2. "I'm Not Quite," David Bowie (also known later as "Letter to Hermione," but the version I'm talking about is an early live recording where he gives this title instead)

3. Today in the car, oh my God, "John Wayne Gacy, Jr.," Sufjan Stevens (I was wiping away tears as I pulled the shopping cart out of the corral)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)

4. "Trois Gymnopedies," Erik Satie

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 00:16 (twenty years ago)

Jenny, I don't know who does "Mandate My Ass," but the vocal sample ("mandate my ass") comes from Gil Scott Heron's "B-Movie" (in reference to the 1984 reelection of Ronald Reagan).

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 00:18 (twenty years ago)

(AllMusic.com says Le Dust Sucker.)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)

I think that in honor of Jeff's deft handling of the 70's ILE list, we should get together sometime and watch a few great 70's movies. Pick Only Three.

My votes:
1) A Woman Under the Influence
2) Network
3) Five Easy Pieces

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 00:24 (twenty years ago)

Another sad song:

5. "I Get Along Without You Very Well," Chet Baker

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)

oh, nice.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 00:31 (twenty years ago)

my votes:

1. nashville
2. last picture show
3. the red circle

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Monday, 8 August 2005 00:33 (twenty years ago)

Nashville is amazing, but it's too long.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:10 (twenty years ago)

Annie Hall
Badlands
Carrie

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:24 (twenty years ago)

(actually, maybe Manhattan instead of Annie Hall only because I've only seen Manhattan once and would like to see it again)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:27 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i feared people might say that kenan

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:27 (twenty years ago)

(although if that's my criterion, there's plenty of other movies I could name, too ... should this just be a list of "70s movies I would like to see, or see again"?)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:28 (twenty years ago)

We own A Woman Under the Influence and everything in the Cassevettes boxset. And Carrie of course.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:31 (twenty years ago)

i may be visiting chicago from oct 14-17.. fyi

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:31 (twenty years ago)

and the Godfather Trilogy..!

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:34 (twenty years ago)

and here's what's coming up in my Netflix queue:


The King of Comedy
Gates of Heaven
Out of the Past
Last Tango in Paris
The Last Detail
Mean Streets
The Wicker Man
Vernon, Florida
First Person: The Complete Series: Disc 1
First Person: The Complete Series: Disc 2
First Person: The Complete Series: Disc 3
Some Like It Hot
L'Avventura

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)

3. Today in the car, oh my God, "John Wayne Gacy, Jr.," Sufjan Stevens (I was wiping away tears as I pulled the shopping cart out of the corral)
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), August 8th, 2005. (jaymc)

I generally can't listen to the Michigan album or the Illinois album in public because they both make me cry. The last time I listened to Michigan I was trying to make dinner and started sobbing while chopping vegetables. We had to get take out. (and thanks for the song ID assistance. I will amend my ID3 tag accordingly.)

I'd like to see Five Easy Pieces and Network because I never have. I'll see any Woody Allen I haven't seen yet, but since I've never seen a Woody Allen film I really liked, I'd rather not repeat them. We can watch Carrie any time and I promise not to quote lines or point out clever shots or say things like, "This part coming up is GREAT!!!" Seriously. I promise. Honest.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:39 (twenty years ago)

things that i own that i would be willing to bring to a movie night that happens in the next two weeks or so:

badlands, Nashville, last picture show, Chinatown, Spirit of the beehive(i could bring my multi-region dvd player for this because its a dvd from the u.k.), Ali: fear eats the soul, a woman under the influence, Annie hall, Taxi driver, Straw dogs, don’t look now, Dawn of the dead, tout va bien, The red circle, the sting, California split, The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie, Manhattan, French connection and more i cant think of

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:45 (twenty years ago)

I'd like to see Five Easy Pieces and Network because I never have.

You really must. I was talking to John earlier about this, and telling him that I want people to give introductions to the movies they love most. I want badly to give an introduction to Network.

xpost Holy crap. That's quite the collection.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

others:
deer hunter, dog day afternoon, marriage of maria braun, harold and maude, one flew over the cuckoo's nest, serpico, scenes from a marriage, that obscure object of desire, the tenant

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Monday, 8 August 2005 01:58 (twenty years ago)

also, i have never seen network and i would very much like to see it

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Monday, 8 August 2005 02:04 (twenty years ago)

That settles it. One day soon, we're all going to watch Network.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)

does anyone want to see the new chinese film "The World?"

by the same guy who made platform and unknown pleasures!

t0dd swiss (immobilisme), Monday, 8 August 2005 02:10 (twenty years ago)

I hear it's great.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

Good morning everyone.

I have the special edition of The Wicker Man...and would relish an opportunity to introduce it. Not that anyone else wants to watch it, but, well, you know, if anyone wants to watch it. I have the soundtrack too. My first ILX name was the Landlord's Daughter, if anyone has seen the movie and knows what I'm talking about...

Also: Nick and Sarah: I want to apologize because I think I forgot to thank you for driving me home the other night. I hope you know that I absolutely appreciated it and meant to write this yesterday, but I'm a turd and I forgot. So thank you.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

i've actually seen that movie . . .

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 8 August 2005 13:22 (twenty years ago)

Wicker Man = naked lady banging on a wall and singing! That was a great movie. I really want to see something I haven't seen before though.

Some favorite sad songs:
* Rose Parade by Elliott Smith (or Say Yes or basically anything else off Either/Or)
* Nude as the News by Cat Power
* Tuesday Afternoon by the Moody Blues
* Bridge over troubled water
* Anything by Enya makes me cry because I listened to her when I was depressed in high school

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Monday, 8 August 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

T0dd, This means you can come to a Fake Fictions show!

More sad songs:
* Almost anything by the Zombies
* Beach Boys Pet Sounds
* A bunch of stuff by the Beatles makes me weepy, including:

Blackbird singing in the dead of night
Take these broken wings and learn to fly
All your life
You were only waiting for this moment to arise.

Blackbird singing in the dead of night
Take these sunken eyes and learn to see
All your life
You were only waiting for this moment to be free.

Blackbird fly Blackbird fly
Into the light of the dark black night.

Blackbird fly Blackbird fly
Into the light of the dark black night.

Blackbird singing in the dead of night
Take these broken wings and learn to fly
All your life
You were only waiting for this moment to arise
You were only waiting for this moment to arise
You were only waiting for this moment to arise.

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Monday, 8 August 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

* I'm pretty sure you thanked us for driving you home. But you're welcome.

* Mandee visiting Chicago! WEEEEOOOOW!

* I don't listen to a lot of sad songs, because I'm a pretty happy guy, but:
1. Every sad Tom Waits song ever, but especially "I Don't Wanna Grow Up."
2. "Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow?" - The Shirelles(?) (Not necessarily sad, but it could be.)
3. This rocksteady song called "Suicide" that's on this comp I copied from Ben, which is awesome because the music is all bouncy and fun but it's about how this guy's going to kill himself
4. "Cigarettes and Coffee" - Otis Redding

* Three '70's movies (that I'm not sure are from the '70's):
1. Attack on Precinct 13
2. Airplane!
3. Rock'n'Roll High School (I have a sneaking suspicion that this may actually be from the '80's, but it's so awesome that it doesn't matter)

* We went to the Brookfield zoo yesterday

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

While we're talking about songs that make us weepy, and aren't uniformly "sad songs" I offer:

"The River" Bruce Springsteen
"Moonshiner" traditional
"Are You Going to Leave Me" Shirley Collins (or anything from Love, Death and the Lady)
"Send in the Clowns" Judy Collins' version
"Like a Hurricane" Neil Young

And I have to confess that I'm in a weepy mood today.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

I guess all those songs are sad, but not in a romantic way necessarily. Some are.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

The Wicker Man is good!

Sad romantic song (in a kind of fucked up way): Billy Holiday, "Don't Explain".

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry we didn't get to hang out with Jordan & Maddie more but yeah it was insanely loud in there.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

Oh yes! Elliot Smith. Thank you Sarah. How could I forget him in my favorite sad song catalog? Pitseleh:

the first time I saw you I knew it would never last
I'm not half what I wish I was
I'm so angry, I don't think it'll ever pass
and I was bad news for you just because
I never meant to hurt you

Just reading that chokes me up a little.

I'm going to make a mix of all these sad songs, for Shakespearean tragedy catharsis-type reasons.

Also, I used to own the Wicker Man on VHS but only watched half of it. I had to turn it off to do something else and got distracted forever.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 August 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

Needle and the Damage Done - Neil Young

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

THIS THREAD IS TOO MAUDLIN FOR A MONDAY

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

now i have blackbird in my head, which totally reminds me of singing it to this little boy, what seems like a long time ago. which has all these other associations. blahblah.

sad song i get in my head far too much lately--nick cave, still in love. but it's the sort of thing that you could sing and totally overdramatize and then override the whole gloominess factor.

hihihihihi.

juliaaa, Monday, 8 August 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

Our friends Wayne and Kelly sent us a CD called Truck Driver's Boogie: Big Rig Hits Vol. 1 1939 - 1969 as a wedding gift. I haven't listened to it yet, but with titles like "Truck Driver's Coffee Stop," "Truck Driver's Sweetheart," "Truck Driver's Night and Run Blues," "Truck Driving Cat with Nine Wives," and "Gear Busting Sort of Fellow," I'm not sure how we could go wrong.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

my favorite sad songs>>>

1. 'she's gonna make me cry' - rocketship
2. 'here without you' - the byrds
3. 'some slow afternoon' - the pines
4. 'well i wonder' - the smiths
5. 'more than a whisper' - nanci griffith

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry, guys. I've created a monster. I don't want to talk about sadness anymore, either.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

SONGS THAT MAKE ME HAPPY BY MR. NICK, ESQ.:
1. "Eat Y'rself Fitter" by the Fall
2. "Le Petit Tortillard" by Plastic Bertrand
3. "Drop Under Pressure" by Mylo
4. "Space is the Place" by Sun Ra
5. "Bright Lights, Big City" by Them
6. "Let's Have a Party" by Wanda Jackson
7. "Psychedelic Shack" by the Temptations
8. "Big Jilm" by Ween
9. This crazy track that's stuck on the end of a gamelan cd I have, but it's not gamelan, it's like 20 minutes long and it sounds like maybe 30 guys chanting "ackachackaackachacka" really quietly over and over while someone croons over the top, and then once in a while, someone goes "AAAH!" and they all pause and then go "ACKACKACACKKAACHCHAACKKACCACKKA!" really loud in this overlapping way, almost like rounds, so that it sounds like machinery, and it gradually speeds up and it's insane.
10. "13 Monsters" by Lightning Bolt

Kenan, I will make you an UPBEAT mix cd.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)

* Rose Parade by Elliott Smith (or Say Yes or basically anything else off Either/Or)

I almost said something from Either/Or but couldn't narrow it down.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

* I don't listen to a lot of sad songs, because I'm a pretty happy guy, but:

It's weird, I consider myself more or less happy, but I have a definite attraction toward the melancholy in art/music/etc. This first occurred to me when I lent my junior-year English teacher in high school my copy of Raymond Carver's Where I'm Calling From and she came in the next day and was like, "Man, Cunningham, what's a 16-year-old optimist like yourself doing reading these bleak, bleak stories?"

I cried again at Sufjan this morning. "Casimir Pulaski Day."

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Here is something cheerful:

http://photos23.flickr.com/32285353_5a65247062.jpg?v=0

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't say that cat looks cheerful, exactly.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

I am distressed.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

Why, John?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

The cat.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

The cat will be fine. Have some water. Calm down.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

jaymc, i'm the same way--im a cheery person, most people see me as very happy.. but I love melancholia!

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

this is carl, my dog:
ihttp://tinypic.com/a4vgok.jpg

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

Does this photo I took at the zoo yesterday make you feel better?
http://photos21.flickr.com/32259568_b9be32e155.jpg

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

xpost - oops. that didn't work. anyway, it's a happy photo of my dog.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Worse, Nick.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

What about these pictures of Lucy, my cat?
http://photos22.flickr.com/25087927_1647c3042d.jpg
http://photos23.flickr.com/25087926_b35034c6be.jpg


n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

jaymc, i'm the same way--im a cheery person, most people see me as very happy.. but I love melancholia!

me too. in fact, in most situations, i'm informally put in charge of keeping the spirits up. sometimes that's not so easy. see: "tears of a clown".

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

HERE IS A KITTEN:

http://photos15.flickr.com/22813545_e0ca9f0070.jpg?v=0

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

HERE IS A SMALL DOG IN A MONKEY SUIT:

http://photos10.flickr.com/13959423_146272a00e.jpg?v=0

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

OH MY GOD.

here's carl again:
http://tinypic.com/a4vgok.jpg

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

that's a whole lotta carl.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

HERE IS A TINY BUNNY RABBIT:

http://photos4.flickr.com/5757814_08212c8ce8.jpg?v=0

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

HI CARL.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

This will cheer everyone up, I promise. Warning: requires reading.

http://www.somethingawful.com/articles.php?a=3100

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

whats up with your cat, jaymc?

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

oh my god that bunny made my heart HURT.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)

Deep shit: A difficult situation.

Y’all ass is crazy: Your entire ass is crazy.

Bitch, please: Used to express disbelief at a woman’s words.

Club hoppin’: Searching for sexual encounters or cheap thrills at nightclubs

I’ma: I am going to

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Am I weird that every single one of these animal photos gives me the creeps?!?

(I don't have a cat, Mandee.)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

i don't love dogs. :(

i don't really understand pet ownership, to be honest.

-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), August 5th, 2005 10:34 AM. (jaymc) (later) (link) (admin) (userip)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

You're a cold, hard man.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I can't stand dogs, and love cats chiefly because they're so easy to ignore.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)

I like dogs and cats. We went to Let's Pet Puppies this weekend and found a nice Rat Terrier. We'd like one of those one day.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

hm, well, i guess i have the urge to take care of/nurture something and don't have the urge to bear children, so i have dogs. i also had dogs as friends when i was younger.

i'm allergic to cats. also, cats don't love like dogs do.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

boy, i'm already regretting that last sentence.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

I don't tell many people about my dog problem, because it makes me sound like a cold, hard bastard. And the woman of my dreams might be a big dog person, I have no idea. I don't want to limit my options.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I hate seeming bitchy about it, too. It's not that I hate animals, I just don't understand them.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Amanda's right, cats don't love like dogs do, it's a totally different love, but it's definitely there.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

Actually, I'm generally okay with cats, but then they start walking over my lap while I'm trying to watch TV, and I get all nervous and panicky.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

Also: cat hair.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

I'm being covered in cat love as we speak. Sample D is a lap cat extraordinaire.

For those of you who don't like animals, here is

JESSE WITH BEER COMING OUT OF HIS MOUTH:

http://photos8.flickr.com/7312364_bc4aa69a88.jpg?v=0

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

That's hideous

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

why is there a pair of girls standing on his shoulder? that's a weird photo.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

Fantastic.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

Last night I was walking out our back door to go downstairs to the laundry room, and I saw something big and gray scurry past my legs into the house. At first I thought it was a rat, or one of our cats that had somehow gotten outside by accident, but then I saw it was our upstairs neighbor's cat. I think he's an indoor cat but once in a while gets out. I guess he was confused and thought that our apartment was his. So he ran into the living room, then seemed to realize that maybe he wasn't in the right place, since it didn't look like his place and also there were two cats in there already, hissing at him. So then he seemed embarassed and ran back to the back door, where we let him out. Poor kitty.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

I keep seeing little tiny beagle type dogs in my neighborhood. Do you know what they're called? The ones I've seen are puppies, but I know they don't ever get that big.

Yesterday, I pulled one of my hairs (from my head) off Pepper. She looked annoyed. I was like, "HA! NOW you know what it's like!!"

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

http://photos22.flickr.com/32259570_3f6e55463c.jpg

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Fantastic.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

Did you like the zoo?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

It is weird. Jeff and I both claim to have taken it but we were both so drunk that night that it's really anybody's guess who was the actual author of the photo. Regardless, I think it's brilliant.

Sarah: Maybe they are puggles?

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

puggles

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

I DID like the zoo. Especially the walruses! That shit is insane!

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

that jesse picture freaks me out but i keep looking at it.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

i love cats, they are so weird. my cat is the most loving cat at 5:30 in the morning, when she wants me to feed her. Everytime I stir she'll go "MREORWR?" thinking I'm finally waking up to get her food. Then while I get ready for work she twirls around my legs, purring like mad and pushing her head under my hand so I'll be forced to pet her. Then at night she glares at me like I'm her disgusting, drooling, flatulent ex husband whom she despises.

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Yes, cats are hilarious.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

HILARIOUS I TELL YOU:

http://photos23.flickr.com/32281051_44355dc681.jpg

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Note: That cat was jumping around and got lost in the air. He was not tossed against the wall.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

No, but that would have been funny, too.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

http://tinypic.com/a4x2m9.jpg
me too.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

I really feel like we have the full range of cat hilarity in my apartment. There's the Retarded Cat, the Clumsy Neurotic Cat, and the Disturbingly Intelligent Cat. They each have their special appeal.

xpost, OMG

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

ps -- that's a hotel room.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

http://img142.exs.cx/img142/3291/owned2fd.gif
I know, I know, I'm a horrible person for finding this so goddamn hilarious. But it made me laugh until I cried. The best part is I saw this same thing happen to my little sister when we were kids. That's what happens when your kitties are outside-only semi-wild animals.

dan m (OutDatWay), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

Now I'm getting depressed, about my usual shit: stupid job. I'm going to go wander around outside during my lunch break, looking for "FOR HIRE" signs in store windows.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

I'm sorry I'm such a bad job pimp guys. For real.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

sorry, nick. at work i experience, at least twice a week, a moment of sheer panic, a kind of feeling where I don't really get depressed, and I just want OUT - RIGHT NOW!! i never do it, though. I guess it's those sort of impulses that make people walk out and never return.

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

I need some "manly footwear." I miss my elephant skin boots.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

Now I feel bad for complaining. First of all, I always do it and it's tiresome. Secondly, at least I have job that isn't completely shitty, unlike jeff or kenan. Thirdly, amanda already tried to help me and I fucked it up. Fourthly, I'm not going to be happy with any job because I'm lazy and have no work ethic and just want to play and "be creative" all day, but so does everyone else so I have no right to bitch. Buh.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Do people wear cowboy boots anymore? Outside of texas?

Do I really care?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

Thirdly, amanda already tried to help me and I fucked it up.

Nick, I spent some time feeling this way, too, but I don't think it's fair to yourself to say you fucked it. They didn't hire you. Who knows why?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)

fucked it UP, I mean.

Maybe if you'd fucked it, you'd have gotten the job.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

Boo fucking hoo for me.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

I want the kind of job where I can sleep my way to the top. Where do you get one of those?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

Gentlemen -- It's not your fault that you're too smart for the stupid effing jobs they have here. I spent a little bit of time feeling bad about myself because I was hired.

Doesn't anyone like my flying picture? That's me! Flying!

Kenan: If you're going to wear cowboy boots, you need some tight (or slender-legged)jeans.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Boot cut, they call 'em. Yeah, that'll be part of the package. Boots and tight-fitting jeans that make my ass look great and rather luridly show off my package.

And a motorcycle. I have this all planned out.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)

There was too much package in that last post.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

Man, a guy gets dumped and look what happens...

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)

I have to move on... TO A WHOLE NEW LEVEL OF SEXAY.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

I like Amanda flying and I am totally impressed with her vertical leap.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

That's what my "OMG" was for, Amanda.

Perhaps you can begin a career modeling for gay biker calendars, Kenan?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

I think I could stand to get laid. Whaddya say, ladies? Who wants to feel used?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Well, rhonda you caught my eye (caught my eye)
And I can give you lotsa reasons why
You gotta help me rhonda
Help me get her out of my heart

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

I think I could stand to get laid.

What do you think I've been saying for the last ... well, for quite some time.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)

I guess I'm in the club now. The "doesn't-get-laid" club. We're not very exclusive or classy, the golf course sucks, and the food is terrible, but... ooh! Check out this bar! Is that oak?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

wait. who got dumped?

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:23 (twenty years ago)

Me. It was kind of a long, slow buildup to the inevitable, actually. I didn't just get stone-cold DUMPED.

I miss the way her hair smells.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

aww, i'm sorry, though, it still hurts

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

now you can go out on the PULL

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

I miss her feet. She totally has Uma Thurman feet.

I should drop back a little before I depress you all.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

now you can go out on the PULL

Mandee! You should totally throw yourself at me. I'll be the envy of all of ILX.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

Oh, man, I called everybody I knew last night. I hope I wasn't too pathetic. Or annoying. Though I'm sure I kinda was.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)

all of ILX obviously hasn't seen me in my house shorts

i.e. the raggedy, grey, tiny shorts i wear around the house... NOT PRETTY

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

Tiny, you say?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:33 (twenty years ago)

Ok, I'm creeping myself out. I'm not a big lecherous pervert, I swear. Or maybe I am, but no more than most people.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

...but no more than most people. You're just more forthright about it.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

Make sure to pluck your ears before pulling, Kenan.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

oh shit. Michael is quitting in the next room. I'm pretending not to listen. I have the headphones on with nothing playing.

Good for him. I'm totally next.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

BTW, Nick, Kenan, Jeff: I just asked my boss if she was looking to hire anyone to replace this girl who just quit last week. She says:

I've filled Katie's position, but if you know some people who are interested in working here but don't need jobs right away, please have them send me their resumes. We always have turnover and sometimes even add to staff if big projects are in the works. And I always prefer people who are recommended by EB staff.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

pluck, as in, kenan has hairy ears?

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

Mine's on the way. What exactly would be the job, I would need to tweak my resume to fit.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

Not hairy so much as slightly fuzzy. On the outside.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

Jeff -- copy editor. I only bring this up because Kenan and I were talking about it last night. So I'm not sure if that's something you're interested in, but there you go.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

oh, that doesn't need to be plucked! unless you have errant wiry grey hairs jutting out at odd angles, like my dad.

i think hairlessness is gross.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, thanks a lot for making me suddenly self-conscious about my fuzzy ears!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

It's Kenan's fault! Before he mentioned it on Saturday, I'd never even considered whether or not I had fuzzy ears.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

fuzzy is cute.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

I'll try anything.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

maybe i should take this to the "things women shouldn't..." thread. i maintain that hairlessness is yucky.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:58 (twenty years ago)

i think my ears are fuzzy, too

i mean the entire human body is covered with (mostly vellus) hairs!

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)

except the palms of the hands and soles of feet, i should say

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

well, certainly. creeping out of the nose isn't the best place for hairs either. but that's easily remedied.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

i used to know a girl who had to wax her nose (not the inside--on top of it!)--i felt bad for her

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

oh my. wow. that's serious.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

I was going to post a picture of a hairy face, but it was just too horrible. So here's this instead:

http://www.gobaeng.de/images/products/2559.jpg

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

i maintain that hairlessness is yucky.

I am alarmed to find that a certain amount of hair in various places on a woman's body has no effect at all on how attractive I find her. This was not always the case. Once I truly preferred a woman to be carefully shaven in as many places as possible. Now I'm beginning to understand that it doesn't matter in the slightest. BRING ON THE HIPPIES!

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)

I once knew a girl who was v. cute except she had a faint blonde mustache. At some point, she must've gotten it removed, and I have to say, I was actually less attracted to her without it.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

you've only known one girl with a faint blonde mustasche? almost every female i know has a faint blonde stasche!

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

You know what's killer hot? Happy trails. Especially on Indian women.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

Okay, maybe it wasn't so faint, is the point.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

I like happy trails, too. Also fine downy hair on the forearms.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

I would require Nick Cave to be shaved before I had anything to do with him. Just on general principle.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

Aw, Jordan... you wouldn't help do it yourself?

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

okay this is making me feel better because my biggest insecurity is my fuzzy forearms! seriously, i hate 'em, soooo much.. that i shave them, which is just dumb.

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

yeah, it is. Nothing wrong with a little testosterone.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

I worry about my faint blond mustache.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

i think the insecurity stems from the time i saw a woman at blockbuster with hairy wolf arms

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, I'm sure Maddie would be more than happy to lather up Nicky C.

I don't mind hairy forearms at all.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

Oh, that's just the lycanthropy. I'm sure you don't have that.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

know who's hairy and sexy? pj harvey.
i wish so many people didn't worry about their body hair. seriously.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Sorry to keep dumping on you guys but I am having a terrible day. Phone has been disconnected at home because apparently I am too stupid to set up the bill pay right and now I have to pay more money than I can afford to set it up again. I don't know what's wrong with me but I am just miserable.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Once my housemate in college who was a total slob left her tub of Nads' out in the bathroom and in got completely covered in tiny red ants, and I always think about that in the depilatory section of the drug store, and think that nothing is worth ant infestation. She got mad at me because I threw it out. I told her to go fish its ant corpse riddled self out of the trash if she really wanted it back.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

I think I jinxed myself by saying I was a happy guy upthread.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

lots of xposts, so: Nick, I'm really sorry to hear that. I'll call you soon.

In other news, Was the hair on her head blonde or did she actually have a dark mustache she was bleaching? (dun dun DUN! - that's scary music, BTW) One time when I went to the movies with my dad out where he lived (Buena V1sta, VA), there was a bearded lady behind us in line, I kid you not.

I have lots of blonde hair on my arms, but I didn't dye it. I'd be too scared to shave it either because the thought of having arm stubble is frightening.

I haven't been upset about the possibility of being dumped in a really long time, but I did get weepy eyed this weekend a few times thinking about my bf dieing. Thanks, A Very Long Engagement! I have a tendency to worry about things I don't need to worry about yet.

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

i was that way too, nick, until i started talking about body hair. now i've forgotten all of my problems and am focusing on hollering about the hirsute.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

I am trying to distract myself by getting in a stupid argument about insults on ILX.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

Do you really need a land line anyway, Nick?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

I want the kind of job where I can sleep my way to the top. Where do you get one of those?

i want one too. only, one that requires literal sleeping. or perhaps snoozing. i do a lot of snoozing. and good pay, with benefits ("benefits").

i keep going thru phases where i'm not shaving at all and going all hippiesque out of lack of energy, but then i feel horrifically ugly and start shaving again. stupid leg hair grows way too fast.

juliaaa, Monday, 8 August 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

Nick, you are so awesome and it is making me sad that you are feeling so crappy. It's okay to feel crappy sometimes so don't apologize for it. I hope you feel better soon - picking fights with internet jerks helps me sometimes, too.

I prefer my dudes with hair. I am actually patiently waiting for the day that Jeff gets back hair because I think it will make him more snuggly. And I look forward to "Beard Time" with much excitement every year. I'll be glad when Jeff gets a job so he can stop shaving for interviews and grow a beard again.

As for women, I stopped shaving my senior year of high school and didn't start shaving regularly until the day before I started dating Jeff. It's an expensive pain in the ass grooming routine that causes pain and blood loss. However, I have always plucked or waxed my eyebrows and if I had a 'stache, I would probably do something about that, too.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

I think it would be incorrect to say that I am turned on by back hair, but if it's there, I am generally pleased about it. I used to date this asshole in college who actually shaved his back. Gawd what a nightmare he was to hug. Ick. Hairiness is more of a tactile thing for me I think. Hey I am like Kenan with the too much information now! WHOOP!

I think the bottom line w/ men and women is that it's far more attractive to accept and be comfortable with whatever you've got than it is to try and beat your body's natural tendencies into submission.

pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

Thanks jenny. I probably would have been feeling better by now except then I found out about the whole phone disconnection thing which just piled on top of me feeling generally crappy and plus I have to keep talking to idiots on the phone. Also I have to go to the bathroom, but at least that's a problem I can solve.

I am not a very hairy guy at all, but I've never really felt that self-conscious about it. No hair on chest really, except a few loners here and there. I hate shaving (my face) and generally don't shave on the weekend, which is probably why I look scraggly when I see all of you.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

I think the bottom line w/ men and women is that it's far more attractive to accept and be comfortable with whatever you've got than it is to try and beat your body's natural tendencies into submission.

exactly! which is why there's nothing i can do about my bony chest. it's just there. oh well. i only mention it because i saw it looking bony in the mirror in the bathroom and i grossed myself out. but this is the way i be. like i said, oh well.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

didn't start shaving regularly until the day before I started dating Jeff

Did you have a premonition of some sort?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

The people at the psychic hotline told her.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

i stopped shaving for years & then tucked in around the time when john & i started dating, i had a vision of freshly shaved legs & clean sheets. i got so hooked on it that i broke down & shaved.

i'd actually started shaving my pits a bit before that b/c i'm one stinky lady!

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)

You are not a "lady." No one is a lady except for aunts and old policewomen.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

Listen, lady...

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

why can't i be a lady? i'm not a whore!

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

what sort of nomenclature would you prefer?
broad?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

i'm talking to the boys here, kelsey. i like "lady."

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i figured that. or at least i hoped that.

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

I am going to call you "Barbara."

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

What's weird is that women always do like "lady." An ex of mine (SJW) loved it.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

hey, while you're here kelsey, i sent you an evite to my b-day party to your ILX email address. i don't know how often you check it...but it's this sunday. i can send it again if you want.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

It just doesn't seem like a word that people I know should be known by. You're not a chainsmoking diner waitress.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

what do suggest as a replacement?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

damn my hastiness! what do YOU suggest as a replacement?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

"Girl" and "woman" have suited me fine for years.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

Also: "gal." I've been saying that a lot lately.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

(thanks, of course, to Er1c Z1egenh4gen)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

i like 'lady,' too!!

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

You would!!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

I call 'em all bitches.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

No, actually, I don't. That might get me slapped.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:20 (twenty years ago)

bitch slapped.

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

thanks amanda...i never check that email, actually!

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:22 (twenty years ago)

"dudette"

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

I am eating some very buttery popcorn and it's making me feel better despite the fact that I'm supposed to be on a diet.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

http://www.carrottop.com/ct_pix/gallery_pix/jerry_lewis.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

I call women "Booby Transport Systems."

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

i prefer "femalien"

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

i rsvp'd as a "maybe" only b/c it's leaf's last night in town before we officially part ways (geographically). if i don't make it, i promise i'll come to whatever the next amanda/ilx/fap/gathering/thingy there is! i promise! i haven't been paying my dues at all.

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

I thought Leaf was leaving on Tuesday or Wednesday! Seriously: longest going-away party ever.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

B is for Breasts Of which ladies have two; Once prized for the function, Now for the view.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

Isn't anyone going to comment on that Carrot Top/Jerry Lewis pic? I am in awe.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

xpost - thanks for even considering attending my party, kelsey. that's kind of you.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

im eating YOGHURT

Jaymc, i hate "gal" - i think because my aunt always blabbers on and on about "this gal [she] knows" - i think i hear the word "gal" in my head said in her voice, which makes it extra annoying

how do you fellas feel about being fellas?

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

I like "fellas." It's not said enough.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00004T6PR.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)

Haha, wtf, song titles from The Most Happy Fella:

3. Ooh! My Feet!
4. Mock Ballet of Waitresses and Bus Boys
5. ...Cleo, I Don't Care If He Fires Me! I Know How It Is
6. My Dear Rosabella I Don No Nothing About You Maybe He's Kind-A Crazy

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

Clearly a warm-up for Guys and Dolls.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

amanda: thanks for thinking to include me on the invite!

john: he's leaving this tomorrow to visit his parents & then coming back sometime friday. he leaves (for good) on monday.

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

Another topical Jerry Lewis picture! http://www.hce.cz/filmy/Cinderfella_160.jpg

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

carrot top is still my barf or bone.

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

i especially like being called a "classy lady" (note: this hasn't happened yet)

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

xpost - is that like "death is not an option"?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

barf or bone?

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

yeah. is that like where you're given two choices and, obv, death is not an option and you have to do it with one of them. carrot top is always the ultimate loser/winner of that game.

for instance: carrot top or karl rove

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

Mandee, you're one classy dame.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

it's actually a game my friend made up . . . it's where you pick someone based on the fact that were they to walk in a room, you don't know whether they'd make you feel like a) puking or b) jumpin' their bones. hence, the name.
it's basically a way to justify secret pinings for the otherwise mostly un-fuckable.

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

ooooh. a different exercise. so you would clearly choose carrot top over karl rove.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

yes.

my girl, nay--LADY barf or bone is Elvira: Mistress of the Dark.

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

bone, at least in her prime. She's got to be like 70 now.

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

i've never used "nay" before. kinda made me feel horsey.

NAAAAAY, LADY.

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

ne-e-e-e-e-e-eigh.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

actually, she's still in her 50s, and pretty hot still

http://www.elvira.com/photos/CP_2005.jpg

Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

obviously, i didn't take this photo. i'm not that cool. but this is from march 2005.

http://photos22.flickr.com/32386993_0d74e7f510.jpg

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

those two were truly made for one another.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

whoa, i am having trouble believing that jeff's photo is really elvira.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

jeff, i think your photo makes her a total bone.

kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

also: Barf or Bone?

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

wtf, EL posted on that thread.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Btw, Nick and Sarah just had a baby in my make-believe hospital.

(sorry, but I have to make up patients every day to test this software and after a year I'm scraping for names)

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha oh noes!

We need more bandmates on ILX. I tried to get Ben to post on here but he is suspicious and also he generally likes his job.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

Congratulations, it's a hermaphrodite!

xpost, isn't he the only other bandmate you have?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

Yes, but EL is one of jaymc's bandmates, that's what I was referencing.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

Jordan, I think it was a reference to the fact that my bandmate EL posted on the original "barf or bone" thread.

I think my bandmates are suspicious of ILX, as well.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I could seriously call someone EL in real life, but that's just me.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

As are mine. They must come across it during vanity googles.

xpost

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

I remember Nabisco made some jokey comment about Canasta once that my friend Demetri (who lurks) forwarded to the band. Matt, not understanding that it was a joke, was all "Sounds like he's no friend of Canasta." (I really don't remember the context.) I had no dig up a half dozen Nabisco quotes about Canasta ("I'm excited for you guys!" "Sounds great!") to prove to him that everything was cool.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)

I don't think I could seriously call someone EL in real life, but that's just me.

Eh, I don't really think of it. That's just her name. I mean, I call her Elizabeth, too, but EL is shorter.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

Haha, is your fan club called the Friends of Canasta? Or better yet, your secret society or political lobbying group?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

It should be! FOC you.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

Though it was funny about how she had a hard time when the EL Fudge cookies came out.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

i think my barf or bone is PAUL WILLIAMS, naturally.

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

mine is philip seymour hoffman.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

oh he's mine, too

although i think i'm wavering toward 'bone'

Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i don't really feel the barf.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

Mine would possibly be the new, exxxtra mannish Kathleen Turner.

http://www.broadwaytovegas.com/kathleenturnerthegraduate.jpg

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 8 August 2005 20:43 (twenty years ago)

I still don't understand this concept. So, it's someone that disgusts you but turns you on at the same time?

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

I think that's the idea.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

http://www.wchstv.com/abc/bostonlegal/jamesspader.jpg

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

I was also thinking of posting asia argento. I don't really want to have um relations with her but she's the kind of person who is hot, but also so sleazy it makes my stomach hurt. But then I made the mistake of googling her at work just now and was like CANCEL! CANCEL! Hit the X box! ARGH!

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)

Sorry for being whiny yesterday, Chicago. I was having a weird emotional day. I feel better today, but I am hungry.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

good morning, chicago.
does anyone want to have lunch with me sometime this week? jenny? john? anyone in the area? i need something to look forward to.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

Good morning Chicago!

Maddie and I went to see a show together last night, which doesn't happen very often. We saw this guy:

http://music.kitp.ru/webleyb2/webleybw2.jpg

And it was fucking awesome.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

Whoah! Who the heck is that guy?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

Jason Webley. He REALLY sounds like Tom Waits in old-world folk stomping mode, and he's a killer musician. It was so much fun, but unfortunately he already did Chicago a couple of days ago.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 13:31 (twenty years ago)

Yikes! He's hanging out with a zombie looking dude in one of the MISC photos.

Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

He also appears to be a really hard worker. Good for Jason Webley. I'm also pleased to see that he played in Akron, OH. Are there MP3s circulating anywhere?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)

Neat! Another car accident just happened in front of the building. This is the fourth accident I've seen happen within 50 feet of the front door here. This wasn't as spectacular as the cabbie who broadsided a park car on the side of the street -- that took talent. This time it was just a fender bender.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

There's some mp3s and streams here, it looks like. We got a few of his cds, I have a feeling they'll make fantastic mixtape material.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

That guys looks awesome.

Speaking of which, CANASTA will be back in Madison on Sept. 25, opening for CLAP YOUR HANDS SAY YEAH. Also on the bill: Madison favorites THE SUPER EIGHTS (whom Ben used to play with, right?)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

This is at THE ANNEX.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

Amanda -- I could do lunch anytime this week except for tomorrow.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

Today I brought my lunch (mozzarella + tomato + basil salad that i CAN NOT WAIT to eat) but it's not enough for two or three people. I'm free every! single! day! My boss just left the company and I can take slightly longer lunches, since I don't think anyone's looking. Heehee. Thursday? Friday? Today? Whenever.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

Excellent, I should almost definitely be in town that night. I've somehow avoided going to or playing at the Annex for the last six or so years, so that will be good.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

(mozzarella + tomato + basil salad that i CAN NOT WAIT to eat)

You realize that caprese is like one of my all-time favorite foods?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

Ordinarily, I'd be free every day, too, but tomorrow is the going-away lunch for that girl who's leaving.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

no. didn't realize. i guess i could share a little?

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

No! I wasn't trying to say that!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

You're too kind.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

Let's do Thursday instead.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

ok. some other day i'll bring enough. thursday it is.

The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

Is this thread too long? We're up over a thousand posts already.

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Yes.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Chicago XI

Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)


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