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― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)

First to post!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:37 (twenty years ago)

Hey guys, someone just sent me this mention of my band in the Chicago Trib from a couple of weeks ago (from an article about noise in bars):

Dave Jemilo, owner of the Green Mill: We tell the people at the door when they are getting ready to pay what the rules are for the night. . . . We have different levels of [quiet] rules . . . the first is the [Sheila] Jordan rule, which means absolutely no talking during the band performance. Then there's Jordan-lite which means be as quiet as possible during the show--and that would be for something like the battle of the saxes. Then we have the rules for bands that are pretty loud, like Mama Dig Down or something like that. I figure if you warn them ahead of time, they can say, "I'm not going in this joint for 10 bucks if I'm not gonna be able to talk."

Neat!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

It's weird, I don't think of your band as being particularly loud. But then I go to rock shows more often than jazz shows.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

I have to say again how much I like Nick's Chicago album cover idea. Some of these covers are great. And what's even better is that by the time you get past the first few albums, and before the big ballad albums starting at 16 or so, the records are astonishingly terrible.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

They're definitely loud, at least compared to the other shows I've seen at the Green Mill.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

I think we consciously pull it back a little for the Mill, but yeah, I'm sure there's a gap between a really loud acoustic band and a really loud guitar band.

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― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

Do you guys wear ear plugs when you go to/play shows?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

i don't. i have in the past, but i don't regularly. that's probably why i don't hear very well.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I really should, but I don't.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

Did you guys see that a guy from that kung fu place revived the Chicago IX thread last night?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

EAR PLUGZ R FOR LAMERZ.

Congrats to Canasta on Clap Your Hands Say Yeah! show. That's a big deal. And yes, Ben used to be in Super-Eights, and we are playing with them at the Hideout. IT'S ALL CONNECTED.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

Same here, John. It hasn't been a big deal lately, but we played a show at the Nomad in Milwaukee on Saturday and it was LOUD. It's a small, loud room and my shit was ringing afterwards. I will never play there without ear plugs again, and I shudder to think of all the times that I did.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

I bought some Ear Love ear plugs after seeing Ghost and Borbetomagus, the loudest bands I have ever seen live. My ears rang for a week afterwards. I always forget to bring them to shows, but I really haven't experience any ringing since then.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Wow, those look great. I've always been too lazy to go get the custom-molded musicians' earplugs. I think I'll get a pair.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

I have definite trouble with very loud shows, and try to remember earplugs whever I can. I've been known to stuff toilet paper in my ears as an alternative. Otherwise, yeah -- my ears ring for a long time. I had a bout with tinnitis a few years ago, and while it's mostly subsided, I don't want it to come back.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

i'm kinda anal about wearing earplugs. i try to always have some on me. slightly wet tissue is my last resort option.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

are the ear loves much better than foam? i have some 33db foam plugs that i use & the ear loves are only 20db....

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

Thanks for that link, Jeff. I just ordered a pair, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

Probably not for blocking out a lot, but good for not distorting the music as much.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

what colors do you guys have?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

Oh wait, I met the woman who started EarLove (or at least proselytizes for it) at Schubas one time. I think she was hitting on EL.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

(I just went with clear because I am boring.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

E.L. for EL!

I just ordered a pair of the clear ones, because I am also boring and I want them to be non-obtrusive. Free shipping though, sweet!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

Does anyone else find it alarming that we go through one of these threads a week now?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

If you erase the posts that have to do with social activities, I think it would be a lot more modest.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

I blame Amanda and Jenny.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

STOP SOCIALIZING YOU MANIACS

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

I blame god, hitler, and carrot top.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

I will try to be more anti-social, as long as I'm not associated with the column called "Chicag0 Antis0cial."

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

It's a good thing you didn't go to Phil's Intonation Fest afterparty, then. SHE WAS THERE.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

God do I hate that shit.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

I always wear earplugs to shows, ever since seeing Public Enemy and detecting a noticeable change in my hearing afterwards.

― deej.., Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

I blame Amanda and Jenny.

Hmm. I used to write 20 page letters too, so this is just Phase 5 of "You talk too much."

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

I have a pair, i don't think they're by 'ear love' but they look a lot like those.

― deej.., Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha. I once filled up a notebook with entries/letters to a boyfriend. I think he was a little scared when I surprised him with it. This was in mid-high school.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Here's a thread about me freaking out about my hearing:
What the hell just happened in my ear? Are there aliens in there playing drum and bass?

It's been fine since then though.

Is it lunchtime yet? ARGH!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

so what are you all doing the weekend of oct. 14 -17? or is it too early to tell?

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

To the best of my knowledge, I'll be here. Too bad you're not coming the previous weekend, Mandee, since that will be Canasta's record-release show/party. On the upside, the album will be out and available for purchase.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Also, went to "Jeri's Grill" (which amusingly advertizes the fact that it sells HAM ON THE BONE right above its westward-facing window) on Western and montrose the other night, what a place! Its like stepping into a time portal, a time before health codes and yuppies were everywhere. Considered putting on some bogus pop music - Nelly or Kylie or something, then thought better of it, feared it would destroy the blue collar atmosphere and people would stare. There were some ambulance workers relaxing and eating a meal, ambulance parked in front of the windows. It felt like we were extras in a movie about ambulance drivers, the way the whole place was set up was as if everyone was a member of the cast of some grainy 70s film where the main characters take a break in a diner. (I feel like this a lot when I hang out w my friends who are all film students.) My friend Gabe made the mistake - the deadly, bland-tasting mistake - of ordering the chili ($2.50). HOWEVER! The chicken patty ($4.00) was terrific. Prices were almost all under 5 bucks. I also got tea ($1.50) and raisin toast ($1.00)

― deej.., Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Mandee, That's really far away! So, we don't have any plans (ie: Nick & I).

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Considered putting bogus pop music on the jukebox, that should say.

― deej.., Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

(which amusingly advertizes the fact that it sells HAM ON THE BONE right above its westward-facing window)

Kelsey! Where are you? (We used to share many a laugh about that sign.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

well i do not have to come oct. 14 - 17. I was kind of just picking a weekend at random.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

Come whenever!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

i just asked my boss for Oct. 14 & 17 off... cross my fingers she says yes

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 16:11 (twenty years ago)

I LOVE JERI'S GRILL! JOHN! I AM HERE! IN CAPS!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

so what are you all doing the weekend of oct. 14 -17? or is it too early to tell?
-- Homosexual II (mandeewrigh...), August 9th, 2005. (later)

Mandee, I am doing nothing except MEETING YOU. Mwahaha. Will you be staying with Jennifer & Martin?

― jennpb (jennpb), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

probably! but they dont know that yet! :P

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

why dont you post more jenn?? also i heard that jennifer's club is now dead? :(

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

Hey - we're slipping off the radar here! Where is everyone? I need to get out of the office REALLY BADLY, so I'm off to the library.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

My theory is that everyone goes to lunch and then comes back and feels guilty for having neglected their work all day.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

Sometimes we're not just feeling guilty, but actually doing work. It's rare, but it happens.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

Also, I've been signed into AIM all day lately, and get a lot out of my system that way.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 17:59 (twenty years ago)

I went home for lunch to make a grilled cheese, and found that Maddie had called in sick on account of hangover. So, we had a nice unexpected and relatively long lunch.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:01 (twenty years ago)

I see. I'm back. I don't really have all that much to say, but I'm back.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

PS -- It's HOT out there! I'm glad I got out though.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

mandee: sadly, yes, it has retired to the indie dance club seaside. i'm hoping they start up again in the fall somewhere other than their last venue.
and the pisspoor reason i don't post more is that everything is superactive during the day when i'm at work, and when i have a chance to read ILE everything i wanted to say has been said. it's a very sad state of affairs. everyone please cry for me.

― jennpb (jennpb), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

and yes, it is FLAMING hot out there. i just returned from Pita Inn! I'm have effusive praise for Pita Inn today. $3.95 business lunch special!!

― jennpb (jennpb), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

Can I cry later, jennpb? I'm kind of busy with family drama right now.

SOOOOOOOO, my youngest sister just announced she's marrying her frenchie fry boyfriend on August 30th at a justice of the peace type dealio. My mom and sister are pissed because we aren't invited. Youngest sis figured it would be too much of a pain/expense for everyone to fly to France for a quick ceremony. Meanwhile, his frenchie family will all be in attendance.

I'm fine with it, but I sure wish my family wouldn't be so hard on her about the whole thing. IT's a happy time, kind of, right?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

Do you think they'd be more or less mad if she just did it and told them afterwards?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

PITA INN!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

Um, more, Jordan.

But anywho, this means she'll become an official french citizen. Plus, she's made up her mind, so this is the time when everyone is supposed to be supportive, or at least try to say congrats.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Hey, if anyone's interested, I think Kelsey and I are going to go to Simon's tonight around 8:30 or 9.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

I mean, if anyone's interested in joining us.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

Have fun, jaymc and kelsey! We're having band practice and then starting our week of kitten sitting!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

Damn, wish I could go, but we're going to have a picnic dinner and watch Night of the Hunter tonight in Grant Park.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, nice. Great movie.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

Argh. I just found out I have to drive my boss to his dentist appointment in a little bit. I don't really want him to see the inside of my car. And I hate driving. And I have to drive DOWNTOWN! NOOOO!!! This is all because I incorrectly answered the question, "Do you have AC in your car?"

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

john, i'm in for a beer with you!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

Wow -- a quickie wedding! I agree with you that people should lay off the drama in times like this. It's a happy time!

Driving downtown should be avoided at all costs. Can't your boss take a cab?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

True dat, Amanda. Why isn't he taking a cab? I call cabs for people ALL THE TIME. Maybe he wants to be alone with me to tell me I'm getting a big raise.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, he also wants to sniff your car.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

Oh, any body that wants to join us at the movie is welcome to. We're getting there early to get a good seat, but feel free to stroll in later. You have my number.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

It's too bad my Yankee Candle apple car freshner is appled out. Actually, my car doesn't stink, it's just ghetto looking. The middle console was ripped out when we first moved here (no stereo/ AC wires hang out), the bumper is covered in stickers, and the outside is always filthy because I don't spend good money on car washes. But anyway, Nick said once he rides with me once, he'll never ask for it again. ha ha. I'm the biggest scaredy cat driver ever.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

Have you been to a movie in Grant Park before? I really want to go to one sometime.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

And I've been in your car -- it's not bad at all. I found it to be both comfortable and fresh, even when there were 6 passengers and I was sitting awkwardly on top of two of them.

I saw West Side Story there. It was fun, but due to my not-great hearing, I could hardly hear the movie.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

I saw Rear Window last year and something else the year before. Vertigo, maybe? Was it really another Hitchcock? Hmmm. Anyway, I think it's kind of overrated. I can never actually get comfortable sitting on the grass.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

I'm taking pillows!

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

And a blanket and oven fried chicken and salads and water.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

sit close, because the sound isn't great.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

Mmmm, oven fried chicken!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

yeah, that sounds GOOOOD.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

when i was a kid, everytime i sat on the grass my dad would say, 'watch out, you'll get CHIGGERS' - he never explained what chiggers were, so i imagined them some awful huge bugs with big claws that liked to pinch butts. So, since then, I do not like sitting on grass.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

i had chiggers once. they're pernicious and invisible.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

john to thread!

CHEEGRO!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

I just had a chigger bite from arkansas in my inner thigh. it's gone now.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

yes, "chigger" is not PC.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

ok then, cheegros. they lived in my bed during part of my year abroad in colombia. they were horrible and i didn't know that cheegros existed, so i called them pulgas, which are fleas. and flea powder doesn't work on cheegros.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

either way, it's not at all cool to have pulgas OR cheegros.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

...or any insect-American infestation.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

except mine weren't American.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

South America is America.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

I never knew they weren't called chiggers!

The drive wasn't too too bad. I just felt like I was taking my driver's test all over again.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

They are called chiggers! In college, I decided to call them "cheegros" as a joke, because I was uncomfortable with how close "chiggers" was to a certain racial epithet.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

I think this was around the same time as the "niggardly" flap.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 49 for "niggardly flap". (0.50 seconds)

Awesome.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

South America is America.

I'm not sure I would say this in Bogota. Maybe technically...

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

IT IS ALL OUR DOMINION.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

I got offered the job at S1dley, Au$tin, Br0wn, and W00d today. I start monday. This comes exactly 364 days after I moved to Chicago. Hooray!

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

cONGRAtulationzzzZ!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

WOO HOO! What kind of job is it?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

level II computer support

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

yay!!! i'm glad someone isn't overlooking your talent!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!! Employed!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

dontcha wanna celebrate with a beer at simon's?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

BOO YA! FANTASTICO!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

I take it this is a law firm?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

Where is the office, Jeff?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

what is Level II?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

what is a computer?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)

what what?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

What's all this, then?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

I don't take as many intro calls, and have problems escalated to me.

The office is on Monroe now, but it's moving in October to 10 South Dearborn Street.

Yep, law firm. Back working at a firm, I'm sure it will drive me crazy.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

May last job was at a law firm too, for those who don't know.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:49 (twenty years ago)

yes, but running out of money will drive you... elsewhere. Somewhere far worse.

Congrats.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

CONGRATS DAWG

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

A computer is just like your brain, john. But it is manufactured out of plastics & glass. It is our future!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

I have to take a drug test tomorrow at 8am! I can pass it too.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

Computers:

Computers used to be as big as rooms, but now they can fit inside your ear or eyeball. The End.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

I would like to recommend some reading to john:

http://www.commodore.ca/gallery/magazines/personal_computer_world/pcw_april_1978_cover.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

CONGRATS ON EMPLOYMENT!!!

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

And a record:

http://maxklimoff.obeimi.ru/diski/03.02.05.%20-%20Kraftwerk%20-%20Computer%20World.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

(I really do recommend that record.)

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

Computers are pets with personalities?! AWESOME!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

I totally want a Battlestar Galactica trapezoidal monitor. Only much bigger. And with color.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

Congrats! You and Jenny are takin' ovah the U.S. legal system, one step at a time.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Computers:
Computers used to be as big as rooms, but now they can fit inside your ear or eyeball. The End.

Is this going on the encyclopedia blog?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)

computerzeit! macht spaß!!

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

Maybe. It might need a little more flesh on it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

that's what she... oh, nevermind.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

I honestly can't think of the word "chiggers" anymore without remembering when Asian-American friend of mine once yelled it out when she was very very drunk to describe "Chinese boys who wanna be gangstas."

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

Jaymc, kelsey, how long are you going to be at Simon's, I'm now in the mood for a drink. We could probably be there at 10:30ish.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

I can hang out for a while.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

I feel sort of bad about posting that now, so, you know...
Congrats Jeff!

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

Jocelyn, you should come back to Chicago again sometime!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

I should! I miss you guys!

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I should coordinate my visit with MANDEEEEE

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

Also, come to MADISON.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

I did and you were in Switzerland, ya punk : )

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

So come AGAIN! Doesn't your boyfriend live here??

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:46 (twenty years ago)

He is from Madison. His father is a rather odd professor in LASERS.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

I have a friend who made LASERS here! Or rather, he did. Now he's a full-time avant garde saxophone player.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

I just discovered yesterday that The Tick animated series is finally out on DVD (not the crappy liveaction one), all 36 episodes. This has made me as corny as Kansas in August. Also, The Muppet Show season one comes out on DVD today. They are now both on my birfday list.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

I liked the live action one!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

You know, it's hard as hell to find the first Muppet Movie on dvd. I asked at Best Buy once, and they said that they intentionally are not carrying it for awhile because they "cycle their stock" or something.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

I got Muppets Take Manhattan on a cereal box fo' free! Golden Grahams. Totally worth $3.50. The part where Piggy and Kermie get married is precious, but the part where they introduce the infernal Muppet babies should be burned.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I should coordinate my visit with MANDEEEEE

-- jocelyn (nalra...), August 9th, 2005. (Jocelyn) (later)

yeah yeah yeah!!

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

Holy shit! Oven fried chicken???

And: Holy shit! The dude who taught Jesse Jackson, Jr. to kick ass posted in that other thread???

And: Holy shit! Jeff's employed!

What a neat day!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

Wait till you see "Night of the Hunter."

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 21:42 (twenty years ago)

I think I am going to sign up for that Kung fu stuff.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)

I've seen Night of the Hunter before, but it was fun to watch it with a huge crowd of people. Even if I thought some of them laughed at parts that weren't funny (the underwater part, for example).

I think I am going to sign up for that Kung Fu stuff, too. Or at least take the free class. I have to see how much it is. I might have to wait until my gym membership expires.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 04:23 (twenty years ago)

NO WAIT Jeff has a job! I'm going to sign up for karate AND get two more gym memberships.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 04:23 (twenty years ago)

whoa now.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 10:01 (twenty years ago)

Can I have one too?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)

Seriously though, I think Nick and I might end up joining Cheetah or Buckt0wn fitness this winter, so we can tuck in all the hot toddies in our recipe book.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

No shame in that. I belong to (gasp) Bally's in Rogers Park, near the Howard stop. It's ok.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

they don't force everyone to do strip-a-robics, contrary to popular belief.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

Even if I thought some of them laughed at parts that weren't funny (the underwater part, for example).

God I hate people. I am doing everything alone from now on. It's settled.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)

The simps have taken over. They're everywhere you go, even if you go alone. You can still hear them laughing. At least I can.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)

I think Night of the Hunter is one of my favorite movies. So good. And I have two different covers of the main theme by indie bands: Fantomas and Young People. The Fantomas version is better.

Yeah, I need to join a gym. I've been eating better but it's not making much difference.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

Coincidentally, Night of the Hunter featured prominently in a comic I read last night (Finder).

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I need to join a gym. I've been eating better but it's not making much difference

I've been taking the opposite approach, I go to the gym and then eat too much food. Often cheese.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

As payment for kitten-sitting, Nick and I are getting free beer and probably free pastries too!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

Kittens AND beer?! What, are they then going to pay you for doing them the favor of drinking their beer?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

I know. Isn't that pure craziness? Of course, I can't get anything accomplished in my life because all I want to do is play with the kitten, b-but still.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

jordan--you & i take the same approach to health & fitness!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

Jordan and I are on the same fitness plan. xpost: And Kelsey, too!

I have a personal trainer appointment next Tuesday. She's going to measure my body fat. That should be utterly disheartening.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

kitten chins are in the top three cutest things on earth. please take a photo of its chin. pleeeeeeeeeeease.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

I'll try. So far she's been really active and won't stay still, and I think a pic of me holding her chin ready might be a little weird.

I need to do some research on those gyms. BRB!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)

pics of the kitten in adorable little outfits, plz.

Chetah Gym is expensive. We go to the one in Andersonville. If, when my membership expires, I don't start taking karate, I might switch to the other, cheaper gym that doesn't have TVs on the cardio machines and a smoothie bar.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

Ok:
Buckt0wn Fitness prices Hmmmm. They have a free 3-day trial pass. Interesting...

Cheetah is a lot more expensive, apparently (xpost)

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)

jenny...what's the scoop on having a trainer? is it a one time thing for an assessment or will they work will you for X amount of time? i know someone who had one & her body shape has really changed (for the better). she was small on top & larger on the bottom & now she's quite evened out & so fit looking!

p.s. i go to the cheaper gym, so we can be lil' gym rats together!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

Losing weight is over 60% nutrition based. You can run or bike all your like but if you aren't watching your fat and calories, you're not going to lose much weight, depending on your metabolism.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

i don't know if there's a bally's near you, but they have a free trial as well and also it's $32/mo., which i find to be enough to make me go, but not so much that it's a financial hardship.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

p.s. i go to the cheaper gym, so we can be lil' gym rats together!

And then go out for pizza!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

hmmm. aside from the $99 initiation fee, cheetah is basically the same amount as KNL (aka: cheapie gym).

http://www.cheetahgym.com/myhtml/andersonville/documents/specials.html

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

$32/mo isn't bad at all. i pay $55/mo (but that's without any other fees)

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

I don't know what I pay. I bought a membership off another couple at work, and I just gave the gym one big payment for like a year and a half of membership. I don't even know when it expires, I just plan to keep on going.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

Manda, I went to a bally's for a free 2-month trial (from doing the Self challenge '05) and it was great. I rode the eliptical machine all the time and it was not too far out of the way for me on the way home from work. But since I didn't sign up then, I doubt they'd give me any special deals now. Plus, I think we're more likely to go to the gym if we go together and somewhere in walking distance.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

The elliptical machine is pretty much all I can tolerate because being on it feels like dancing. I like bally's though -- there was a sign-up fee, but I don't have a contract and can duck out whenever I want. There are times when I know the people behind me are laughing because I'm dancing maniacally on the elliptical machine, but they're probably jealous because I'm having fun and they're not. Or they're laughing at me. Whatever.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

Sarah, this is the "Special of the Month" at the Bally's at Webster Place:
$18 down, $18 per month for 36 months (24 months in CT, RI, WI; 18 months in MN; 12 months in WA), A.P.R. 0% (7.9% in WA; 8.9% in Dallas, OK, L.A., NJ North, NY, Pittsburgh, OR, and S. FL), EFT Only. Alternate-day, club joined, non-renewable. Additional charges for some services, including personal training. Other memberships presented. Sales tax not included (where applicable). Offer ends 8/31/05. Offers at Bally Sports Clubs vary. Offers apply to US markets only.

Sounds pretty cheap.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

What's "alternate-day" mean?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)

You guys, I'm worried it's gonna rain on my birthday party. :(

PS -- n+s -- that means you have to go on specific days though, which might be fine for you guys. i'm not good with set schedules.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

I dance on the elliptical machine! And the treadmill. But the elliptical machine is about all I can do these days because of my old, achey knees.

This personal trainer package starts with a fitness assessment where they measure your body fat and your weight and maybe do a fitness test on you. Then the trainer develops a customized fitness program for you (I'm really looking forward to that because the knee problem has limited what I can actually do to the point that I'm a little stymied) and then works through it with you for three sessions. Then you get a follow up session later to tell you about how you're doing. It's $119, I think, and that seemed like a good deal. Oh you get nutrition counseling, too.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

i would go to the gym a lot more frequently if i knew you guys were gonna be there.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

Is that the Bally's you go to? The one at Webster Place?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

no, i go to the one in rogers park. it's like 5 minutes from home. and it's right near the fruit market, where i often grab a snacky on the way home. rogers park fruit market is truly a thing to behold.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

It would suck only being able to go certain days, but if they were the same days every week, we could just set up a routine for ourselves. Would you not mind driving there, Nick?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

Not if it meant paying like $40 less a month.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

I couldn't get to sleep last night. I blame smoking. I am TIRED.

I need to see a physical therapist before I go to any gym. My body is too messed up. I thought biking would be some exercise I could do with exacerbating my injured ankles, but I fear it's given me a rotator-cuff problem, from having to extend my arms to the handlebar.

Yes, I am a hypochondriac.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

pobrecito. you should try yoga. i did yoga like crazy for a year or so and it really helped with my back/shoulder/scoliosis problems. my back didn't hurt for the first time ever.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

Word. Maybe I will look into that more seriously.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

Kelsey -- what's the name of the yoga place you used to go to? (Or does anyone else know of a good place?)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)

(And why does my right nipple feel numb?)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

yoga also helped me quit smoking. it's hard to breathe properly if your lungs are all yucked up. the problem with yoga is that it's so expensive, at least that's why i quit. i couldn't afford it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

There's really no good reason why I started smoking again. Bad idea.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

I love yoga. I would like to take the following fitness classes:

kung fu
yoga
belly dancing

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

I should get Maddie to try yoga, she's got crazy back problems.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

Sorry if I seem whiny today.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure I would even notice if I had a numb nipple!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Should I move to Bangkok?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

No.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

Oh no, jaymc!

Rob Buscem1 has a good joke along the lines of: You know what I don't get? You see these warnings all over the place that say, 'Consult your doctor before beginning any exercise program.' How come they never say, 'Consult your doctor before sitting on the couch eating Cheetos for 15 years straight.'??!

I have horrible joke delivery - sorry.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

I'm not sure I would even notice if I had a numb nipple!

Maybe numb isn't the word. Actually maybe it's the opposite! Maybe it's too sensitive! But not in any exciting way.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

xxpost why not?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:32 (twenty years ago)

I am loving my yoga classes, highly recommended.

jaymc, maybe you have a pinched nerve in your back and should see a chiro.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

What makes you say that, Teeny?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

Bangkok is pretty tourist-ized, Kenan. Why not Vietnam instead?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

here's the upside of bangkok: my best friend ever is there. he works at a magazine. he can get me freelance work at the very least. web work, probably. and when i'm trying to make ends meet, i can teach english. i can't quite imagine myself doing that, but assures me that it's easy, steady work. and that although i don't particularly care for asian women, i am just underexposed to them.

it's a thought.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

also, rent is cheap and the food is great.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

I'm totally not kidding guys. I know you all think I am.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

john, i went to this place:
http://www.sivananda.org/chicago/Rates.htm

it's pretty cheap, although not as cheap as some park district yoga class that katie & brooke were taking.

i miss yoga. it made my world so much nicer. my posture was better, i ached less. it was lovely. i also had finally mastered the head stand!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

I could totally do the Tues/Thurs classes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

Except I know that for the classes beginning on September 6, I'd have to miss two of the eight classes. Fuck.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

john, I had a similar issue and that's what fixed it for me. It was more of a tingly/shooty small pain though.

The cool thing about yoga too is that once you learn the poses, it's easy to do them at home--no equipment/$$ needed! It's always good to be with a teacher/group to advance, but you don't need to pay for three classes a week, I just go to one a week.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

B-but Kenan! What about your new Chicag0 friends?!! BFF! Come on!

September 6th is a blessed day.

I took yoga for a little while. I should have kept up with it! I bought 5 classes, but only ended up going to 3. DOH!

(Nick: If we bought a year at BF, it would be @$34 a month, but I loved Bally's so...)

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, I don't think you're kidding. It's hard to imagine going off and living in a foreign country for an extended period of time, but my sister's doing it and Sarah's sister has been doing it, so I know it's a realistic choice.
I have never been to Bangkok, and the only time I've been to Thailand was to be at a beach resort, so I can't imagine I got a realistic view of the place. I'm sure it's fascinating and that it would at the very least be educational. One of my concerns for you is that you didn't like NYC for being dirty and crowded, and Asian cities (at least the ones I've been to) are about 8,000 times worse than NYC in that regard, plus until you learned the language you would be fairly lost. I get the impression that a lot of Bangkok is very tourist-focused, lots of fast food places and cheap souvenirs (not to mention scary prostitution with very little regulation). But there are probably parts that are more "native" and liveable.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

xpost I love you guys! But maybe there's no cure for depression better than going somewhere completely alien to you. Who can be depressed when they're busy being completely freaked out?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)

It's hard to imagine going off and living in a foreign country for an extended period of time

This might sound weird in that I've spent a good chunk of my life living overseas but:
a)I had no choice in the matter,
b)I never had to deal with any of the nitty-gritty of moving to these places (airfare, saying bye to family, finding a place to live, etc.), and
c)I stayed fairly cloistered in little Americanized/Westernized areas of the places where I lived.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

Kenan that is not a "cure" for depression, it is dodging depression.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

Xpost - K - Also, as an ESL/EFL teacher, I don't think it's the sort of thing people should waltz into under the impression that it's easy, but I'm saying that because I've spent nearly three years struggling through grad school in order to be properly trained.

If you have a best friend there, that changes things. I just have had a lot of experiences where I said "i'm moving to [place x]" and didn't know anyone and that decision always preceded a long period of intense loneliness and depression. But this situation sounds different. I dunno. It's worth a try??!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

Bangkok is more spread out than New York. It has about 8 million people. Chicago has 9 million. I mean, we have 9 million in the "metro" area, but the way Asian cities report their populations, the "metro" area is the whole city. It's very dense, but no city besides Hong Kong is as vertiginous and claustrophobic as New York. And yes, it's very dirty. Their pollution problems are pretty extreme. There are downsides. But how romantic would it be to walk through Asian markets at mealtime, eating odd and gut-bustingly spicy food?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

Not to divert the conversation to another topic, but: we are trying to plan some kind of party for Sarah's birthday, probably either on Sept. 9th or 10th. Do you all think we should have the standard "everyone come to our apartment and drink beer and chat" party, or should we do something different? Bowling? Bar? Brunch? Park? Ideas?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Can we talk about my birthday party first, which is this weekend, and who's coming and whether or not it'll rain? Please?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

bangkok is really, really HOT. so uncomfortably hot. and it's crowded & dirty. parts of it are lovely, but i can't imagine living there for an extended period of time. it's westernized in certain parts & bangkok has a lovely, exposed underbelly of things--sex, mostly--but i don't know if it'd be the first place i'd pick. granted, i was only there for a week, so my experience is limited. i also heard horror stories & was told that i shouldn't spend all my time in bangkok b/c thailand has beautiful beaches. i was too broke to venture out.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

Sarah and I will be at your party.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, I think I'm going to try to stop by. I have to go out to my dad's place to help him move some furniture (he still can't move about too well after his bike accident from a couple weeks ago) but he doesn't really care when I come, so I can fit it in. I'd also like to listen to the finished mix of the Canasta album at some point this weekend, with the rest of the band, so we're trying to schedule that.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

(Which is why I've been uncommittal until now.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

I'm thinking that it's less likely that I'll be there, as much as I would like to go!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

Yaaay. Ok, so I have an idea for you guys. You all meet at my party, whenever, grab some food, gab for a while, maybe play kickball, then at some point you retire to Chez Jeff and Jenny for the first installment of movie night. Yaaay, people are coming to my birthday party. Does anyone know Greg? He's a nice guy.

I think a bowling party for Sarah sounds like FUN!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

xpost - Jaymc -- i meant to ask about your dad. i guess he's out of the hospital then. that's good.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

Why would we know Greg? Who is he?

Yeah, I'm totally into the bowling idea, too. Lincoln Square Lanes!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:18 (twenty years ago)

(Yeah, he was only in the hospital for two days, but he's still recovering slowly. Mostly it just hurts him to sit.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

You know...GREG!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

Greg!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

I dunno. He's in a band. L3sser Birds of Paradise. He's the drummer. I thought maybe all of the people in bands knew each other somehow.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

I know him because they played in Wilmington when I lived there, so I wrote about them for the magazine I worked for. Then, I moved here and found out that he worked (here) with my friend Laura and then I got a job here and now it's 3 years later and we're still both here.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

Oh. I know that band. We might end up on the label they're on, eventually. But I don't know Greg.

Also, I have a bad habit of not really introducing myself to anyone that we play with. Probably because I figure other people in the band are better at that.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

Vietnam is my second country I want to visit, right behind Japan. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxpost

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

whoa whoa whoa! Wilmington?! Another Delaware connection?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Wilmington, NC

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Jaymc, You're ALWAYS uncommital!

Kenan, I would suggest you plan a vacation somewhere - perhaps to Bangkok. I don't think a foreign place would necessarily cheer up. I hate to sound morose, but this guy I kind of knew in college left on a spontaneous trip to Belgium and killed himself in his hotel room. It's as though he couldn't escape ENOUGH. I just don't see how being alone could make you feel better. But I don't know, because I'm not you.

Amanda, I told Nick I didn't think he should bring up my party because yours is this weekend, but he figured yours is already all planned out and mine isn't.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

I think we played with that band once..? Nick is the person is my band we call THE POINT MAN. In other words, he's in charge of talking to other people, um, in general.

Bowling actually sounds fun. It's just not one of those things, though, where people can show up at any time and just hang out.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

It isn't? Maybe Chicago bowling alleys are more crowded and serious than the ones up here.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

You see, Kenan, I'm just totally selfish. Usually I'm the person moving away, but I demand that all the friends I make stay in one place! I'm sad J0dy is gone now and Kelseeeeeee & her boy will both be gone soon too. NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! New friends, STAY! STAY!

xpost - I dunno, Jordan. I haven't been to one in Chicago. We keep driving past one that looks really fun though. I think it's called the Rock N Bowl? Or did I just make that up?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

I don't think a foreign place would necessarily cheer up.
By this I meant that I don't think MOVING to a completely foreign place is a good idea, not that visiting one wouldn't be fun.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

We didn't play with LBOP, but we saw them at Subterranean. I liked them!

Diversey Rock and Bowl.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

well, you (birds, canasta, fictions) all should get along and have cryptic band-talk on sunday. i'm really excited about it (party, and i guess band talk too), but terrified that it's going to rain. we (greg and i) have no contingency plan.

i'm starving -- lunchtime!

i will return promptly (in 60 minutes.)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

http://metromix.chicagotribune.com/barsandclubs/28049,0,1680414.venue

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

I think I might wander over to the Carl Hammer gallery at lunch and see what they have on display.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

I think Maddie and I are going to make a guerilla raid on Ian's Pizza for lunch.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

That looks fun. Why does bowling have to be so expensive though?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

Paunchy, I hope I didn't JOYKILL all over your idea. :-(

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

tomorrow is my work retreat. it's at the ritz.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

i have to bring "two things to represent me."

i'm not excited about it!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

I can related to Kenan about totally immersing yourself in a foreign culture for a few years. I would love to do this in Japan for a few years, if I had no financial concerns and work obligations. We have an office there so hopefully I'll get to travel. It's the whole idea of being in a city that is so foreign that my brain becomes numb and it feels like I've been tripping to long. I don't know how it would work for depression though.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

Have you figured out what you're bringing, kels?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

I go to a boring class for 2 hours and this is what happens? Chicago post explosion!

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

not yet.

maybe a microphone (radio), maybe my harmonica (but i don't want to play it), maybe some paints & maybe Mao's Little Red Book.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

You should bring a live scorpion and a diaper.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

It is fun to wander around in a totally foreign place, but it can be pretty exhausting, and I found myself seeking out the familiar (eg, record stores). I did this a lot in Hong Kong.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

It's the whole idea of being in a city that is so foreign that my brain becomes numb and it feels like I've been tripping to long.

I hear Tokyo is especially good for this. And not just from that Bill Murray movie. My Bangkok friend also lived in Tokyo for a year, and... well, hated it. It hurt his brain too much. And didn't find the Japanese to be very nice to him.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

Wow, I went a little overboard on lunch. I got a kalamata olive slice, which would have been delicious and satisfactory on its own, but then I had to try the BREAKFAST PIZZA. It had egg, bacon, cheese, potatoes, and basically is going to make me sleep through the class I have this afternoon.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:36 (twenty years ago)

Jordan! You glutton!
(hehehe)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

what sort of togetherness retreat happens at a place like the RITZ?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)

i did the whole foreign country thing living in the dominican republic after college. it was really stressful to adjust, though i loved it. i can't imagine moving to a foreign country being helpful for feeling depressed...

― juliaaa, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

I think the key to moving intercontinentally is to do so for an express purpose. If you have a job lined up, you have a purpose. But aimless globetrotting can get scary, if the 50 year old American/English dudes I used to work with in Bogota were any indication. (They worked for the same company I worked for.)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

I disagree, I believe aimless globetrotting can be very exciting. Fuck having to go overseas specifically for a job, there is no adventure in that.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

I've never been to the Rock and Bowl, but can I recommend Lincoln Square Lanes? I've been there twice and it's never been very crowded. Not much flash, but who wants flash? Plus, it's above an Ace Hardware.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

Kenan sounds like me when I romanticize living in Mexico City

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

OH MY GOD. That pizza sounds so good, Jordan.

For lunch I had: a granny smith apple, a low fat oatmeal cookie, and some reduced fat cheez-its. I must do a better job of putting together a good lunch in the morning!

That sounds fun too, jaymc.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Rock and Bowl would be awesome, I am just worried about crowdedness. I went to Marigold Lanes, the place that used to be by the IHOP on Broadway and Grace, TWICE, and didn't get to bowl once because the place was too crowded and the guy in charge of the sign-up sheet was a douche.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

No douchebags are allowed at my party. And yeah, I wouldn't want to have to worry about it being too crowded. See, I have to worry about enough things already that I don't really have to worry about.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

when i was travelling in new zealand, we met people who would stay there for long stretches of time, getting jobs on farms or whatever here and there and saving up money, then traveling for a while, and on and on. it seemed like it would be a really really cool thing to do.

― juliaaa, Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

On the other hand, the aging hippies I would see in New Delhi, acid casualties wandering around the markets with graying ponytails, were kind of sad. The beggars didn't even bother with them.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, I feel like I was a Bitchy McBitchfest earlier, killing your last sliver of a dream/ your hope for a brighter tomorrow.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

Yeah -- I didn't mean to squash your dreams either. I guess I feel like there's something cliche about being running off to another country to get away from something that hurt you in this one. And I didn't want you to be That Guy. I'm sorry.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

sarah, no you didn't kill anything besides what's likely a bad idea. besides, i'll need a couple thousand dollars if i'm going anywhere. i think i may get a second job, anyway.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

279 posts already? you people are crazy

― phil-two (phil-two), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

how much money does someone reasonably need to move to another city?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

i took $12,000 to england and i still had to come home because i was broke

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

i'm wondering if it would be cheaper to ship my books & then make a couple of car trips to minneapolis for unloading stuff than it would be to rent a uhaul. the uhaul is $400 + $100-$150 for gas.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

could you rent a van instead of a uhaul?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 17:47 (twenty years ago)

that's a good idea! i'll see how much those run. . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

about $72/day via enterprise's cargo van info.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Shipping books would probably be pretty expensive, and you might not need all of them right away, right? So, I would leave those to car trips. Family coming to visit? Great! Have them bring a box or two up or a suitcase full of stuff if they're flying.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

i told myself i wasn't going to eat sugar during the week & right now i want something sweet SO BAD!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 18:31 (twenty years ago)

I bet my user name doesn't help!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

This is the thread where I yell: HOT POCKETS!

Having a microwave has changed my life. My kitchen ceiling is falling in and I have no furniture, but sweet lord I HAVE HOT POCKETS.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

< /looking on the bright side >

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

You could go gourmet and make them in the oven.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

in this heat? are you nuts?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

why can't there be indian hot pockets, with yummy mushy indian food in the inside and nan-type bread on the outside?

indian hot pockets?
hot indian pockets?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

I have bemoaned the lack of quality vegetarian Hot Pockets on ILX in the past. How hard would it be?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

not hard at all. i guess we have to make our own. it's basically like making a calzone. i wrap them in waxed paper, then foil and freeze them. but i've never tried indian-style. maybe in the fall, when it's not so hot.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

you can buy frozen samosas!

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

I went to art galleries at lunch today. I think my favorites were these paintings by Jiwon Son, though I saw a couple of kickass Diane Arbus photos at another gallery, my favorite one you can see by going here, going into the site, clicking on "Diane Arbus", and then on the Coney Island Horror House pic.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)

my friend told me in Wash DC there was a street vendor who sold naan wraps, big fluffy naan wrapped up with indian deliciousness inside - omg sounds soooo good

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

I feel like I recognize the identical twins photo (taken by Diane Arbus).

Anyway, those all look really neat, Nick!

Can anyone tell me where to get the bestest Indian food in Chicago? And then where to get the bestest Indian food in Chicago near my neighborhood? (because I have a feeling whatever you list will be on Devon)

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 18:57 (twenty years ago)

Sarah, didn't we go over this the other night in the car? John and I endorse Hema's, which has a Lincoln Park satellite, although the original is on (near?) Devon. We should all just take you out for Indian food up way norf where the Indian food is good.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

I don't mean that facetiously. I just remember having this conversation. I think, after karaoke.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

Yes: HEMA'S.

I feel like I recognize the identical twins photo (taken by Diane Arbus).

It's a pretty famous photo. Also, people like to compare it to the girls in The Shining.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

i'm a big fan of the cheap vegetarian indian fast food place next to patel bros.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure you had that conversation, Amanda. I was tipsy.

Where's that, k?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

::whispers:: on devon.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

It's called Annapurna. It's on the strip between Western and California, on the north side of the street.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Haha, I just found this while Googling:

Please also note: The all-vegetarian restaurant called "Victory's Banner," which is sadly within 1/2 mile of my apartment, can fuck off. This wacko place consistently fails to have anything interesting for vegans to eat, and has actually chuckled more than once when asked about vegan specials. I have had a good meal here in the past (one-time only vegan breakfast special, apparently), but since they can't be bothered to add more vegan options to a meatless menu, and act patronizing when asked about vegan specials, I will never step foot in their cult-religion cheese-and-egg brunch mecca again. Lame!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

WACKO

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

in wacko's defense, they are light on the vegan fare. BUT. they have THE BEST VEGAN CHOCOLATE CHIP MUFFINS IN ALL THE LAND!!!!!!!! BEST CHOCOLATE CHIP MUFFINS PERIOD!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

it does seem stupid for vegetarians to snub vegans, but this place sounds fantastic.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:23 (twenty years ago)

have you not eaten there, kenan? it's lovely.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

mmmmm....satisfaction promise...mmmmm

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

Duh, you guys. Nick and I go there about every other fucking weekend. WE OWN THAT PLACE! (not really, but, um, kind of)

The french toast is the best and the coffee is great and it's fun sitting inside or outside. Actually, if we ever get married, my dream celebration would be all my friends and family eating Victory's Banner brunch, but we'd have to rent the whole restaurant because it's teeny tiny and there's always a huge wait.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:26 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, dudes, I was going to Victory's Banner before it was a SCENE (it was blocks from my first apartment in Chicago) -- I just thought that SCATHING review of it was funny. Partially because I can't imagine someone getting worked up over Victory's Banner!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

Uppama. Erin's Eggless Wonder. Refillable CHAI.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

erin's eggless wonder!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

Herma's is SO overrated, go to Bhali's Kitchen on Devon and Oakley. It's just a guy and his wife, and his wife cooks everything. Try the pistachoo naan. It's like have jesus in your mouth.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

Herma's is SO overrated

Yeah, but what about HEMA'S? Get the name right, bitch.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)

Jeff's just haughty because of his new job.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

I agree that Hema's is over-rated.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

I AM SO FUCKING HUNGRY MAN. Fuck a "diet." I already ate Sugar Babies today, I have no willpower.

Victory's Banner rulez. I want to go there for lunch sometime because their entrees look tasty too but I only ever get breakfast.

That vegan is annoying. Instead of complaining about one of the few all-vegetarian restaurants in Chicago, why not go bitch out OUTBACK or some place like that? Focus on the real enemy, dude, don't succumb to the carnivore divide-and-conquer tactics.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

And try the Brocolli Rabe, they cook it for 8 hours!!!! and the eggplant, OMGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOoggleface.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

http://www.eatchicago.net/archives/000048.html
http://www.eatchicago.net/archives/000049.html

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:38 (twenty years ago)

I've been going to Victory's Banner since LAST YEAR! That's right! But I didn't even know about it before then, because I lived far far away. I had, however, heard of Chicago Diner, but VB obviously wins.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

wtf, who's been "overrating" hema's except for me and some assholes on 'check please'? all i know is it's fucking delicious.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

All my pals who say that is their default indian food place. Either that or Standard India, which is a fucking buffet for crying out loud.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

no one in particular. okay, maybe @d@m m@rsh@ll. it's just a place that i've eaten at & i expected it to be way way better.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

Call ahead if you're going to be more than 4 people.
I guess that depends on how much Naan you end up eating.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

i don't know what makes one indian place better than another, other than level of greasiness, flavor/spice and perceived degree of authenticity. either way, i've had some good experiences and some that were merely ok. but i'll eat those "tasty bites" thingies, so maybe i'm not the best judge. i guess we'll have to try bhabi's kitchen.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

DELCICIOUS

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

ok, geoffrey hearth, just to please you, i signed up to choose restaurant club on sept. 2 with every intention of going to homi k. bhaba's kitchen. hope you're happy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

DUDES, we need an indian food fap! Maybe sometime next week after I get paid (after the 15th). By that, I don't mean to say I'd pay for anyone else, ha ha.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

if you're up there on a weekend afternoon & in the mood for indian, i'm tellin' ya: masala dosa at the snack shop. AND you can splurge on a lassi!!

oooh. another good place (& late nite eats) is this really crazy place that is like a golden nugget for indian food. maybe more like the decor of an omega. wish i could remember the name. WONDERFUL samosas.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

yeah -- let's! i have to have as much fun as possible in the next two weeks because it's the only time i have off of school.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

does the next two weeks include the 19th & 20th? I could probably join in that weekend....

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)

Yay! I have nothing planned that weekend!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

Jaymc: You won't regret it!!!!

Besides, Hema's is okay, I just love Bhabi's so much I get a little overzealous.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)

let's find something else for me to be contemptuous about!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

won't take long!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

i'm joking!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

man. what a thread kill i am.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

I might have to shell out the cash for Indian food tonight. Guh.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

ooh! ooh! i found something!

"LADY"

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

these guys LOVE "lady"
http://www.ariped.com/images/styx-photo.jpg

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

That makes me think of the song "Lady," which in turn makes me think of Freaks and Geeks.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

This guy too!
http://www.80sretromusic.com/biography/R/00376453.jpg

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

He's your knight in shining armor...and he loves you. Lady.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if Jeff invited people over in the vast expanse of ILX Chicago threads, but Sunday would not be a good day for us (well, me) to have people over for movie night. I am a slack ass who has been having too much fun being a normal person and am now facing a big fat deadline for a 15 page paper on punitive damages in product liability cases.

So, yeah. I am hoping to go to Amanda's party but that will be my last hurrah until I finish all my stupid work.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

Oh -- sorry jenny. i invited people over to your house. my fault. eeg! anyway, you can hurrah all you want at my party...before it starts raining!

get to work, smartypants.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

it wasn't an invitation, specifically. just an idea. an idea that fell as flat as many of my other ideas.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

Hungry bread-and-butter hustle!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)

My blog is one of only FOUR results if you Google that phrase.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

No worries, Amanda!

Also, Kenan, a good friend of mine spent a year in Thailand teaching English and I would be happy to put you in contact with her if you want to ask some questions about what it's like to live there.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

My blog is one of only FOUR results if you Google that phrase.
I'll change that right now!

Good morning, Chicago. It looks mysterious outside right now.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 11 August 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)

Rain! Drat. Now I must walk to the gym in the rain. And then drive to Milwaukee in the rain.

Rain!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 August 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

OH NO WAIT there's a drought! What I mean to say is:

Rain! Yay! It's a pain in the ass but we sure need this rain!

Rain!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 August 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

Hi ladies! Jenny, if you're going to Milwaukee today, that means you won't be available for lunching? Rats. In other news: I got a really really really bad foot cramp at the gym last night -- am i the only boob afflicted with foot cramps? it was horrible. i couldn't even walk.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

That's right: ladies.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)

I had a dream last night that Kenan started going out with Laura Linney, and he was posting on ILX about their sexual habits. It was weird.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 August 2005 12:53 (twenty years ago)

http://eur.yimg.com/i/xp/premier_photo/a/a8f15a2c6f.jpg

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 August 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)

Alas, no lunch today. I have to go to Milwaukee to undertake my duties as a bridesmaid. In a dress not unlike Laura Linney's. Assuming that is Laura Linney in that picture. I have no clue who she is or what she does. She looks a lot like that woman who is in that sitcom with that comedian and married Frank Azaria. No, Hank Azaria.

I am bad at knowing who people are.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)

She's in a bunch of semi-indie movies, Miramax movies like "You Can Count on Me" and "P.S." And I think she was in "The Truman Show." jaymc loves her. He and Kenan will duke it out.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

Oh we went to Hema's last night, it was delicious and I have enough leftovers for another meal. Very spicy. We were going to try Bhabi's or whatever that place is called but I forgot the address once we got up there and we found Hema's instead and we were starving.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

You could do worse than Laura Linney. My first roommate in Chicago was in a sign-language class with her at Brown U.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

POINT JAYMC

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

jaymc loves her.

Wait, I do? I think You Can Count on Me is a marvelous performance, but I don't, like, have a crush on her or anything. Plus, she always has raccoon eyes at awards shows. You're a blonde: ease up.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

Rain! Yay! It's a pain in the ass but we sure need this rain!

It's true. My kitchen hasn't been watered in three weeks.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

Haha. I don't think either of us are Indian food experts or anything. I was more adventurous than usual; usually when we get Indian food I just get daal and rice, but last night I got aloo paneer I think, potatoes and cheese in a tasty sauce.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

mmm. i like matar paneer (muttar? i have no idea how to spell it) -- the one with peas and cheese.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:18 (twenty years ago)

what did sarah get?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

Haha. I don't think either of us are Indian food experts or anything.

YOU LIVED IN INDIA.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

I was really lame about Indian food when living in India. I ate a lot of bread and chicken, and wouldn't eat anything that was spicy. I've only just recently begun to appreciate spicy food.

Sarah got the vegetable biryani, which is her standard Indian dish.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)

i like the way indian food is a warm, slow spicy versus a sharp, piquant spicy.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

I want Indian food.

(I ate so much crap yesterday, and I most certainly did not go to the gym even though I intended to.)

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:51 (twenty years ago)

I ate HOT POCKETS. The pot pie version. Turkey, carrots, peas, and some delicious, delicious mystery goo.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

Today for lunch: Ramen. It's the end of the pay cycle.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

mystery goo = gravy.

which is why i don't care for gravy. it looks like goo.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

jaymc - are we still having lunch? i brought a salad to eat outside but it looks like rain. i guess we wait and see.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

mystery goo = gravy

Oh, sure, that's what THEY call it...

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 13:56 (twenty years ago)

hiya chicago!

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 11 August 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

hiya cozen!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)

Or as we say here in Chicago, ALOHA.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 August 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

just checking in

is amateurist still around?

― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 11 August 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

He hasn't been posting since he moved off to Iowa a couple of weeks ago for grad school. Probably too busy.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 August 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

jaymc - are we still having lunch? i brought a salad to eat outside but it looks like rain. i guess we wait and see.

yeah, i dunno, unless you know of any indoor places to eat? i didn't bring anything but was planning on picking up a sandwich at kramer's health food store. (hopefully mock curry chicken.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

and hi cozen!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

btw, laura linney is on the cover of red eye today. i couldn't tell why.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

That's not Laura Linney! That's Ana Gasteyer (who is starring in Wicked right now).

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 August 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

haha. well, no biggie either way. we'll wait and see closer to lunching time.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)

Chicago, I'M STARVING! I just ate my pretzels. Now I only feel a handful of pretzels heavier. Not good enough!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 11 August 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)

Mutter paneer = peas and cheese = my favorite Indian food thing (and easy top ten cross-ehtnicity food item) ever. I also like korma. And curry. And bryani. And saag paneer. And chicken tikka. And samosas.

HOLY SHIT I NEED TO GO FOR INDIAN FOOD STAT!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 11 August 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

by gum, nick, you're right. to be fair, i saw it in someone's hands on the train, upside down?

http://www.redeyechicago.com/imgs/coverthursday.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

I bummed a rice cake off a coworker, so I might not die (um, this morning anyway - unless, perhaps, this race cake will magically make me invincible).

I love love love indian food. GET IN MY BELLY!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

i'm worn out from arguing about gender politics. big time.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

You should go home and dress up in heels to make yourself feel better.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

Oh, sorry... not to make YOURSELF feel better. To attract men.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

That Kevin Smith thread is a mess. Reading it depressed me.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

has anyone here had much southern indian cuisine? its quite a bit different than punjabi indian food (which is what most indian restaurants serve) -- there's a vegetarian southern indian restaurant in town that has such goooooo food, everything is SUPER spicy and not as fatty (no cream in the dishes and such). i recommend trying it. my favorite thing to get is a dosa which is like a big pancake filled with spicy potatoes and other things.

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

Oh, sorry... not to make YOURSELF feel better. To attract men.
Sorry, I have to finish reading some chick-lit first, then I have to get a pedi, then I have to pluck out my leg hairs one by one, then I have to bleach my teeth, then I have to watch 6 straight hours of Oxygen so I couldn't possibly fit in a dress-up session or cooking a meal for my husband. Too much primping and learning and conforming to do! I'm very busy.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

has anyone here had much southern indian cuisine?

I was gonna mention dhosas earlier when Kelsey referenced Annapurna. Cuz they have them some good dhosas. Southern Indian cuisine is pretty much all-vegetarian, if I'm not mistaken, and is pretty tasty. There may be less cream, but I find it to have more breaded and fried types of things. The place to go in Chicago is Udupi Palace.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

That place is good. Except I had something there one time that was extremely greasy (but tasty.)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

So I brought Ramen for lunch today, but forgot that I had already taken my electric teakettle home. BUT! I still have a coffeemaker. So I scrubbed it inside and out, crumbled noodles into it, and ran it without a filter. The room still smells more like coffee than noodles.

And then... then! I walked into the bathroom, and the electric teakettle was sitting RIGHT THERE ON THE SINK. I was three inches away from it the whole time I was washing the coffee pot. So now on top of having coffee noodles, I feel like a senile fool.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

so i got approval to take the days off from my boss, so i will buy my ticket to chi-town soooon

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Thursday, 11 August 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

Holy shit. I get back from sitting on the curb and eating my noodles, because of course I am not allowed to eat in the house, only to discover that I am in trouble for having the coffee maker sitting on the desk. new desks, you see, and she's very worried about them. Actually, they're used desks. And anyway, what kind of fucking retard does she think I am?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

That's disheartening. Oh, K - I saw your friend Amanda in the hallway just now and I said hi to her real friendly-like, like I knew her, but then I realized that she has no clue what I look like (even though we've corresponded via email several times.) Ha.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

yay mandee!

kenan, were you sitting on the curb in the rain eating ramen noodles? that's so sad!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

I am not allowed to eat in the house. It's a brutal and intractable edict.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Brutal, indeed.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

I showed Amanda your encyclopedia blog the other day, Amanda. She loved it.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

Hee. We emailed a little. She seems nice, like a potential friend. My best friend in grades 5-7 was named Amanda.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

Coffee noodles sure sound tasty.

I ate in the rain too, mainly to get out of my freezing cold office. But I was under shelter. I did the crossword, drew a sketch of a huge crane that they're using to build a parking garage down the street, and read a little more of "Tales of Hoffman," which is excellent. Ate a peanut butter and honey sandwich and some pretzels.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

It's nice outside right now.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

I'd be more worried about the kettle.
-- Pleasant Plains /// (pleasant.plain...), August 11th, 2005 1:15 PM. (Pleasant Plains ///) (later) (link)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

(Sorry, I guess I should explain, I read PP's post on the "living by yourself vs. living with others" thread and, in my post-lunch fog, assumed that I was on this thread and he was talking about Kenan's situation!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

I will try to be more anti-social, as long as I'm not associated with the column called "Chicag0 Antis0cial."

someone told me that girl has some odd electronica act where she dances to minimal techno while naked? this might be rumor though.

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:28 (twenty years ago)

Well, she used to be a stripper, as she revealed in her shitty review of the M.I.A./LCD Soundsystem show. Does that count?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

she did pee right in front of us while we were in the hottub, so i guess she doesn't have very many boundaries. i would be interested in seeing this minimal techno strip show.

what was the gist of her mia/lcd review?

― phil-two (phil-two), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

"blah blah i'm interesting blah blah"

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

Y'all are just jealous. I bet she's hot, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

She's gotta be hot if she's a stripper. Right?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

Actual gist of the M.I.A. piece: "I thought the M.I.A. show was pretty cool until I had a sudden flashback to where I had met her before, backstage at a Peaches/Elastica show a few years ago, where Maya kept egging me on, rudely, to strip in front of Justine Frischmann, and she made me cry. Now I am confused as to how I should feel about M.I.A."

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

I actually think Liz is a pretty good writer. And I get the same vicarious enjoyment from these hipster parties as I do when I read Jessica Hopper.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)

I am jealous that she gets paid to go to shitty parties at the same three places, write navel-gazing bullshit and/or (but usually and) too-cool-for-school indictments, and have her pieces printed AFTER THE FACT so that no one could possibly go to the AWESOME EVENTS she is writing about, thus cornering the market on mocking her friends.
And she may be hot, but I bet she reeks.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

I wouldn't mind Chicago Antisocial as much (fuck a googleproof) if she:
1. Did something different once in a while and wrote about it from a jaded hipster perspective instead of just writing about jaded hipsters from a jaded hipster perspective
2. Maybe gave a couple of tips of upcoming things she's excited about so that other people would know what she was actually talking about
My number 3. would have been "Stop writing 50% of her columns about things that happened at Buddy space" but now it's closed for good so ha ha fuck her.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Whatever. I'm jealous of her writing.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

Don't be. You can do better than that.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of the reader, did anyone else read that entire cover piece they had about the girl who was so outrageous and destroyed her insides with drain cleaner and then had an art show? what was that all about? i read it, but even at the end i couldn't really figure out what the point was.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I read that. It was kinda scary. I think someone wrote a letter to the editor and asked what the point was!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

Liz A. has a good journalistic style, though, regardless of what her pieces are about.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

I dunno, I just have a habit of reading journalism these days and being like "oh, that's a good turn of phrase, I wouldn't have thought of that" or "recherche? that's a good word, I don't even know if I remember what that means" and so then just despairing.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

I know what you mean, jaymc. I've been asked to contribute some music stuff for a community blog up here (D@ne101), but my style is BORING.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

I think it's natural for writers to feel that way. I know that Dan feels that way sometimes. I felt that way every single day, when I wrote (more or less) 2,000 words a week for the magazine in NC. I guess once you start feeling like you're the most awesome shit around is the same time you start to suck.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, I searched for Dan on Salon the other day and realized I remembered reading at least a couple of his pieces. I haven't read Salon for a couple years now, but he hasn't written for them in a couple years, either.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)

ha! that's funny. did you see that one where he went to bob jones u. and pretended to have a black girlfriend? that was when we first started dating. i felt a little weird about that, but mostly because he didn't even know her at all. ah, memories. i just realized that last weekend was the 6th anniversary of our first date.

he hasn't written for them in a good long time. it didn't pay very well from what i remember.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

ps - if i recall, that wasn't his idea to go to bob jones u. i think they asked him to do that.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

Yup, that's the one I remembered.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

Wait, he didn't know the girl he went with? Didn't the article imply they were friends?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

I think the difference is that jaymc reads writing as a writer, and I read writing as an asshole.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

xpost - I'm trying to remember -- I honestly can't tell you if I recall how he knew her, I just know he was not dating her and didn't know her very well. Shit...I can't remember. Either way, all I remember is feeling a little jealous. Because I'm a terrible person. Do you remember being offended by the article? I think some people were. He's not an offensive dude though, I assure you.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

"Either way, all I remember is feeling a little jealous. Because I'm ~~a terrible person~~ human."

I don't remember being offended, but I know that people wrote in and were all, typical snarky-liberal stuff from Salon! Which had a certain grain of truth to it. One of the things that made me stop reading Salon was its whole sanctimonious liberal attitude. Sorry, if I wanted that, I'd read the Utne Reader. Well, that and they started charging money to read it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

yeah, i read it for the advice column these days.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

Is Cary Tennis still writing it?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

Yeah. I like him, for the most part. I don't particularly like advice columns, but I like his.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

I like the sports dude, King Kaufman, and I actually don't have a problem with Stephanie Zacharek. (I say that because lots of people on ILX don't like her -- except for Miccio, who thinks she's the greatest living film critic.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

When I first started reading Salon in 1998, it was all about Sarah Vowell and the WACKY Camille Paglia.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah, she's WACKY WACKO.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

i didn't mean that in a contentious way. i'm tired of fighting. this guy at work just called a lady named cathy gallagh3r and asked for "cathy gallbladder." haahahaha.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

Last night we were watching Homicide (the third-from-last episode!) and Brian Dennehey was guest-starring, and there's this Italian-American detective named Falsone who's really annoying, and Dennehey calls him "Calzone" at one point and that was amusing me for a while.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 August 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

I remember Falsone! He was annoying.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 11 August 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

Not as annoying as Kellerman, but probably the second-most annoying.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 11 August 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

You wont believe what just happened, guys! I got two pieces of furniture! It's true. I'm sitting in... get this... a chair! And my computer monitor is on... a desk! OMG everything's coming up roses.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)

And my cat is in heaven. She has a lap now! Poor kitty didn't have a proper lap for MONTHS.

She's shedding on my black pants already. She likes her ears scratched.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 22:16 (twenty years ago)

FF show on Sat. is a pick on Gapers Block!:

The Fake Fictions @ Ice Factory

Wicker Park/Ukranian Village pop band The Fake Fictions stops tonight at the Ice Factory, 526 N. Ashland. $5 gets you in to the 9:30pm show, followed by local band Crap Engine and a Super Dance Party with DJ Hunter.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 11 August 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

Awesome!

Congratulations, guys, you are now officially a Wicker Park band, with all that comes with it. Women! Cars! Ironic t-shirts!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

Oh, sorry. I meant, three hundred dollar jeans!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 11 August 2005 22:43 (twenty years ago)

Homicide is the best show ever.

Anyone still interested in a chicago internet networked dance party?

― deej.., Friday, 12 August 2005 00:49 (twenty years ago)

CHICAGO IS NOT THE SAME WITHOUT AMATEURIST.

― youn, Friday, 12 August 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

Well, it mostly is. But we do miss him.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 12 August 2005 00:53 (twenty years ago)

n/a and/or sarah, how do you know s@r@h f@ust? i saw you have her linked on the FF website. did she do those first two band photos on the 'photos' page? she's awesome. i worked with her on an exhibition at the int3rnation@l mus3um of surgic@l sci3nc3.

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Friday, 12 August 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

She works with Ben, innit?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 03:23 (twenty years ago)

And yes, she did take those photos. (Sorry to speak for you guys: I bet you're sleeping!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 03:46 (twenty years ago)

i almost considered posting her to the 10 artist thread. i like her stuff a lot!

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Friday, 12 August 2005 05:14 (twenty years ago)

http://mocp.org/collections/mpp/uploads/FaustSarah3.jpg

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Friday, 12 August 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)

Beautiful. Sincerely.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 12 August 2005 05:34 (twenty years ago)

I wonder... if you play Le Nozze di Figaro really loud at 2 in the morning with the windows open, does it really count as noise pollution? Or is the best thing anyone will ever hear at 2 in the morning and therefore a public service?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 12 August 2005 05:37 (twenty years ago)

Or... a third option... will I just be cheesily reenacting a scene from The Swawshank Redemption?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 12 August 2005 05:39 (twenty years ago)

I'll be in Chicago next week....know of any good places to dye my hair?

― whiteout (bobnope), Friday, 12 August 2005 06:30 (twenty years ago)

jaymc

what are yr plans for sat. night? Me and some HOMIES want to paint la ville rouge.

― deej.., Friday, 12 August 2005 06:39 (twenty years ago)

Well, obviously, deej, you should come to the Ice Factory. At the very least, you should enjoy the dance party bit at the end.

Yeah, s@r@h f@ust is amazing and she's sUCH a genuine person. She knows Ben via work. And she has a cute little baby now. She was at our apartment for Nick & Ben's joint b-day party for anyone who was there. I have gotten a few emails from people thinking that I am Sarah Faust, since I'm Sarah and she's linked from our band page, but I'm always sure to set them straight because she deserves every bit of praise she gets. She actually took A LOT of photos of us, we just don't have them on the page. And the ones we do have on there weren't scanned properly or something, which is a shame.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:27 (twenty years ago)

DOH! I didn't google proof her name that last time. Anyway, we might be helping her with one of her own photo shoots tonight or sometime soon, just for fun.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)

Hello Chicago. I had a dream last night and I'll skip the boring part about the inferno and the cave and the spectre of Satan, but there was a part at the end where Jordan, Nick, Sarah, Dan and I were in a car and Jordan was going on and on about how his mom is French and how he wanted the driver (Nick) to turn his head a certain way (20 degrees to the left and down a little) when the car went over an especially gravelly part of the road and also wanted him to speak in a fake French accent, like his mom. I was in the backseat nervous that Nick was uncomfortable with impersonating Jordan's mom. Gooooood Morning!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

Haha, wow. My mom speaks some French, I believe.

(duh duh DUH!)

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)

See? I'm totally psychic.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)

I feel WWWWWEEEEIIIIIIRRRRRDDDDD today because:
* Red velvet cupcake (courtesy of Robin) and coffee for breakfast oh no sugar and caffeine rush but also I have no work really to do so it's like I'm all hyper but all I have to do is play online
* Rain

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

I am going to crash later.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

Indeed, you are. Hey, I think Dan and I are coming to your show tomorrow. Yay!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

i popped my mouth off at my boss this morning. not a good idea.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, you got snippy? I had a talking-to for that once. A "counseling event." It was the Counseling Event of 9/23, that was later referred to in my annual review. Apparently, I had become sufficiently placid since being talked to.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

Yes, deej, my plan is to go the Ice Factory to see the Fake Fictions and then dance it up there afterwards. We'll see if anyone gets crunk to Ciara: I think the DJ (DJ Hunter) is a hip-hop dude.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

I'm in a class in another building all day, as I was yesterday. My current mission: to steal a chocolate croissant from the customer catering tray.

(a chocolate scone would also be considered a success)

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 August 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

I think DJ Hunter is related to Mahjongg somehow, so it should be fairly danceable stuff at least.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

um. i think i have an offer for a new job.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

buh-buh-wha?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

here or in the twin titties? i mean, cities?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

i'm having trouble wrapping my head around it.

i'm currently employed in a stable environment.

new job: (in chicago) it's a start up sort of thing. One guy so far.
Pros: working with sound/pro tools/etc., trying new stuff, flexible environment, more money
Cons: It's just me & the guy (& that might get old), it's his company & therefore, if he got in a car accident or something, I'd be let go b/c he'd have to pay his bills, no health insurance.

i don't know what to do. i had the interview this morning & i've been mulling it over....

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

...and that's exciting? good? bad? confusing?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

this job is basically going to companies & having them pay us to make well-produced company histories, training, etc. Audio features of people that actually work there. The guy i interviewed with is named t1m k33l@n & if you google him, you'll find his st0ry qu3st web site. i'd be a production engineer.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

Sounds interesting! And sketchy!

xpost, corporate gigs actually don't sound that sketchy, nevermind.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

all of those things, amanda. i'm feeling conflicted. the job i have now, while "good enough," doesn't make me happy. my love is moving to minneapolis. i think i'll end up being in chicago at least through november b/c i don't have the money (or employment) to move to mpls yet. i'd like to move there with an adult job with adult pay, but my work experience is limited. while my resume is sorta strong regarding the career i want, it could be a lot better. this new job would strengthen it.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

xpost: corporate pays.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

i think you should do it, k.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

that's a tough decision.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

also forgive my vulgarity above. i was trying to work in a vagina/edina joke, too, but pulled back.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

have you taken the amtrak to mpls? it's a nice trip...it could be your lifeline to mr. love if you decide to take this job and save up money until you move there.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

i'm kinda leaning toward yes too . . . but there's something to be said for stability & paid vacation & all that. although, i'm guessing he'd just set me a salary & all my paychecks would be the same. he's a real wheel & deal kinda guy. used to be in sales. but i liked his personality a lot. so different from me!

amanda: i think you're very right. xpost

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

k, do you think the job would be stressful?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

also, if it's just one guy, he would probably be pretty flexible with hours and stuff too, so if you wanted to take a lot of long weekends, he might be more amenable to that than a larger company would. that's a big plus.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

sure. but stressful in the way that i like. meeting deadlines, freaking out over how interviews are crap & figuring out how to make them pretty. i think the opportunity to learn a lot is great, considering the fact that the more i can "bring to the table," the more he can use me. he's only a couple of years old (as a company). a lot of stuff has to be figured out. i think it could be interesting to do some of the figuring.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)

amanda, i actually asked him about that! i figured that since L is moving to mpls, i'd go visit him a lot up there. the answer was somewhat flexible . . . mostly it depends on what needs to get done & what projects are on the table. it means that other weekends, i'd end up staying late, working saturdays & all that sort of thing. so, there are trade offs.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)

it sounds great to me, k. Sounds like a challenge.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

i guess the most important thing is that you can get along with and negotiate with the guy. if you get along, it could be a great opportunity; if you don't, all sorts of bad things could happen. but it sounds like you like him, so that's a good signal. i think.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 15:53 (twenty years ago)

possibly the stupidest money I ever made in my life was like $200 for a voice-over for a corporate client; it was about five pages of copy but they revised it twice and then paid me each time they revised it, so it was like $600 total. So, yay for corporate clients with audio needs and big wads of money to throw around.

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 12 August 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

So, yay for corporate clients with audio needs and big wads of money to throw around.

Licensing your band's songs to advertising agencies ain't a bad gig, either, especially if it means you don't have to borrow cash to put out your album.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

Yacht Rock OMG!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)

Advice time, guys. I am going on a date tonight. We are seeing a movie at 7:45 and meeting at 7:30. I leave work at 6:00. Do I...

a) Go home on the el first and then drive to the movie, despite not really having much time to eat dinner and risking not being able to find parking near the movie theater?

b) Take the el straight to the theater, buy tickets, have a leisurely dinner somewhere nearby -- but then be stuck with having to get home (or wherever else) afterward, either by public transportation (tacky if she's accompanying me) or taxi (expensive)?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)

is it tacky to take public transpo home?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

Just make sure your fingernails are neatly trimmed.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

I don't know, isn't it, kind of? Like we're having a good time, then we have to get on the el for 45 minutes?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

Drive if you can.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I have low standards, but I think public transpo is fine. A car seems like more of a burden, I guess. I also remember this date I had when I lived in DC and this guy picked me up and it made me SO NERVOUS. That's just me though.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)

I get all antsy with the hidden etiquette associated with "dates." Especially if it involves money. Do I buy tickets beforehand, so she can't even offer to pay? (I used to be a firm believer that everything should be split, because the whole guy-pays-for-everything model is totally antiquated and dumb, but now I don't mind, esp. if it means I'm seen as nice and generous.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

xpost Well, I wouldn't be picking her up. We'd still be meeting at the theater. But I'd have the car afterwards. I just realized that if I drive, I can still buy tickets online beforehand.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

Making out in a car is fun.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

Take her to the bank to get a shared checking account first, then it will be easy to split costs.

(btw, mission chocolate croissant: accomplished!)

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:19 (twenty years ago)

Buy the tix but make it into a convenience thing, not a generosity thing: "I was here early so I went ahead and got us tickets" or some such claptrap.

Transport: I would just depend on taking a taxi, because you won't have to worry about your car but it's a little classier than public transport. However if you decide mid-date that you don't like the girl then just do public transport.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

Also, the more effort put towards making it seem officially date-like always signaled to me not an interest in me, but an interest in the removal of my dress. The more casual it is, the less it seems like you're trying to bed her...even if you are. Making out in a car is fun though...

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

Also, the more effort put towards making it seem officially date-like always signaled to me not an interest in me, but an interest in the removal of my dress.

This is probably the most useful thing said so far.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

have a leisurely dinner. don't worry about having a car. take public transport. make it an adventure. you can more easily justify heading over to either of your neighborhoods for drinks and ... you know. Whatever.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

But what if the two are one and the same?!

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:27 (twenty years ago)

hahaha

Man, ok. My boss just came in to pass down a new edict. "Can we in the future get more cutesy with the magazine? See here on this cover where is says 'Prop Safety'? Instead of the word 'prop,' we should have a little picture of a propellor. Do you see what I mean?"

Karen and I looked at each other. Oh my God, we silently said. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)

You should have an all-rebus issue.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)

you can more easily justify heading over to either of your neighborhoods for drinks and ... you know. Whatever.

We'll see if she actually drinks this time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:42 (twenty years ago)

Do you think she's on guard? I think it's better not to overplan. It'll evolve or it won't and you'll probably know by 9:30 whether you're staying up all night or not.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:46 (twenty years ago)

On guard in what way? I think she's just sort of shy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

I was just wondering if not drinking meant that she wanted to be cautious or if she just doesn't drink much.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

Oh, yeah, I don't think she drinks much, period. The last time we went out, she ordered a Coke because she had gotten drunk "a week ago."

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

At the same time, I do wonder if it betrays an overall cautiousness. Not sure.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 17:58 (twenty years ago)

Kel, If I were you, I wouldn't take that job. But that's because I think it's rude/unethical to work for someone knowing full well you're probably going to move soon. But then again, it seems like he already knows what's going on, right? He knows you might not be with him long? Also, I worry too much in general. And also, it sounds like a cool job.

Jaymc, I say take a taxi from there elsewhere if you go elsewhere. It's kind of classy. Is this somewhere you really could drive to and park easily? Or would you have to pay $20 to park? If parking is bad, skip driving. Also, maybe she's just the type that doesn't drink as much as you do. I used to NEVER drink. It doesn't mean she's necessarily worried about it, just that it might not be an issue for her at all. Does that make any sense?

I am tired and cranky.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 12 August 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

The movie is at Piper's Alley, which means I could maybe find a spot near the Sedgwick Brown Line stop, as I've done in the past, but I might have to drive around for a few minutes.

Re the drinking: yes, that makes sense. I mean, I didn't drink until I was 20 and even then, I drank very little until after college. Does it seem shallow, though, to speculate that her not drinking would make us incompatible?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

No, but it means you are a raging alcoholic. Get help.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

It's too early to be worrying about compatibility.

I would never drive to Piper's Alley, parking blows over there.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Does it seem shallow, though, to speculate that her not drinking would make us incompatible?
I wouldn't say it matters at all, provided that you [ahem] connect on some level. Hormones in harmony trump everything.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

my husband hardly ever drinks, I drink daily (when I'm not knocked up), it's never been an issue.

― teeny (teeny), Friday, 12 August 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

It's too early to be worrying about compatibility.

Bad habit when it comes to these things with me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

I always feel like an idiot talking about my dating life on ILX.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

i don't really have a huge problem with taking the job under the circumstance of me moving. maybe that's because if it ends up being pretty great, i'll stick around longer. if it ends up not being a good fit for me, i would leave regardless if i was moving or not. maybe that still fits under "rude & unethical," but i haven't made an official decision yet anyway.

john: you're overthinking this whole thing. just do what's easiest for you. go with the flow.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

Kelsey, I'm sorry if I sounded bitchy and self-righteous. I worry all the time about doing the right thing when it comes to quitting or taking vacation or calling in sick. Quite frankly, that's probably why I have such a low level job - because I have this damn "work ethic" and don't take risks.

xpost - John Don't (stop talking about your dating life)! It keeps me from having to pry!

I hope I didn't come off sounding high and mighty above about the not drinking. My mom's parents were raging alcoholics back in the day, complete with child abuse, so I've always had this big fear of becoming one. If I drink alcohol more than twice a week, or even that much sometimes, I start worrying about it. Like oh my god I really should cut back.

I also have a fear of addiction, thus the fact that I've never tried smoking or any types of drugs before (aside from alcohol). Welcome to my crazy, paranoid world!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 12 August 2005 18:49 (twenty years ago)

JAYMC = YOU ARE THINKING TOO MUCH.
-- n/a (nu...), June 1st, 2005 10:46 AM. (Nick A.) (link)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

Can anyone tell I'm GRUMPY TODAY?!?!?!?! ARHGGHGHGHGHH!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 12 August 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

sarah...sorry you're grumpy. don't worry about how you come off (at least to me). i'll call you out on it if i think you're being all capt'n mighty. i didn't think you were being that way. it's certainly something that's crossed my mind.

also: i like it when you talk about your dating life, too, john. i was just trying to point out that maybe you're overthinking the transport point.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

Sarah -- I hear where you're coming from, totally, with the family/addiction thing. Unfortunately, that never stopped me from doing/trying whatever I felt like doing/trying. I just tend to be a little bit reckless; these days in theory instead of in practice. You're far wiser than I was/am.

I do like hearing about other people's dating lives too, although I can understand why it might make you (jaymc) uncomfortable to talk about it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

I don't mean you specifically, but anyone on a public message board. Talking is different than posting. That's what I meant to say.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

this girl i talked to yesterday just friendster messaged me. she said to let her know if i want to get lunch sometime. the thing is, i have a feeling that it's less about me & more about who i know in radio. i feel icky.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

The thing is, I don't really mind talking about my dating life, esp. since I like all of you folks. But ironically, I think that's what gets me saddled with this accusation of "overthinking," because I've brought it up and am going on about it. And then I feel weird. But really, I'm just making conversation since I think it's interesting. And then maybe, okay, overthinking a little.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

Oh I'm just yanking your chain.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

hugs to jaymc. nerves are normal. you'll be fine. you're smart, charming, kind, and attractive.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

as a matter of fact, i think i might like to date you. what are you doing next week?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

I'm just engaging you in some semi-ironic self-aware post-feminist mockery-through-demasculanization, dude. Chill out!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

xpost haha

I don't even know what I want, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

i hope that girl never finds ilx. she kept name dropping during the luncheon thingy i was at. it was getting annoying. i understand, she probably wants me to think she's smart & "connected" & what-have-you. but it's okay to not be "connected" & maybe ask me a question once in a while. then maybe she would've found out that i worked for the dude she mentioned THREE TIMES in FOUR MINUTES. and she met him at an event. briefly. argh.
i haven't written her back yet. i'm being all snobby mcsnobster. maybe i should give her a second chance. yesterday was all about meeting new people & stuff so she was probably nervous.
but she also threw me a look when i couldn't choose between chocolate hazelnut, caramel &/or vanilla ice cream! give a girl a break!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

you do take your time deciding about food!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

wait, if she doesn't know that you worked for you-know-who, then why do you think her lunch invitation is about who you know?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

kelsey - i don't like how she suggested you "let her know" when you want to get together, when she so clearly wants to get together with YOU. that's sneaky. the old "let me know" approach.

in other news, i don't even know who you-know-who is, but i want to have lunch with you. it's not at all related to i-don't-know-who.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:30 (twenty years ago)

people do tend to get exciteable about him.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

oh. i see. still, it's no excuse. obviously.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)

Realllllly...Kelsey, let me know when you want to get together for lunch.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

semi-ironic self-aware post-feminist mockery-through-demasculanization

I think this is your trademark, Nick, along with semi-ironic self-aware post-feminist mockery-through-hypermasculinization.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)

DAWG.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

one word. well done.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

BTW, Nick said yesterday he's going to start saying DAWG all the time IRL! Oh no! WTF! LOL!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:48 (twenty years ago)

He doesn't already? I know he does on stage, at least.

I think 50% of the words said in my band are "dude" and "dawg".

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

So that's 100% total, huh? Or dude and dawg combine into 50%?

I have $5.55 right now in my account! Is this lucky? Like when the digital clock says 11:11?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:54 (twenty years ago)

My lucky number is 538, or 5:38.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

john, i ended up telling her. but in a nice & hopefully not too name-droppy way.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Words I have resolved to start using in normal conversation to irritate my friends:
"DAWG"
"BLOOPER" (like when somebody makes a mistake or drops something: "BLOOPER!")

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

50%. "Hot" makes up 25% of the remaining vocabulary, and the rest involves food and alcohol.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

blooper is an awesome idea! i may YOINK! it!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, that reminds me of this very OCD thing I used to do which involved adding up and subtracting and multiplying numbers on the clock so they would come out evenly or to my favorite number at the time.

x-post. Oh, no. I was hoping you'd forgotten that one, Nick! You should hear the way he says it, kelsey. It's NOT COOL.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

You have to make a wacky hand gesture when you say it too.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

You know, I think I just realized my problem with dating. If I really were to "not worry about it," and just have fun, we'd probably have a very nice time, but nothing would happen afterwards because I wouldn't be in the mindset of taking a risk like asking her to come up to my apartment. And maybe that's fine for now, to not take those risks, on what's essentially only a second date. I just can't really tell anymore what's too soon and what's not soon enough, so I worry about facilitating things in just the right way.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

just walk around with a giant boner poking out of your pants & see if there are any takers.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

But you can't worry about the worrying either, some girls think that's cute.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

whip it out

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Nevermind, kelsey's advice is better.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

BLOOPER!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

John, you should read The Rules - It helped me so much!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

xpost - Sarah, would it make you feel more normal if I told you that I do that too? (the number manipulation to come up with a number i "like") And that I don't like prime numbers, that they make me feel sick? I don't feel like I suffer from OCD, I enjoy it.

I saw a guy with a giant boner in his sweatpants at the gym the other day.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

Wasn't there a recent thread where we talked about bloopers vs. boners? I seem to remember posting a jpeg of "Merkle's Boner," the famous baseball play from like 100 years ago.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

Sarah, would it make you feel more normal if I told you that I do that too?

Renee just told me she did this the other day, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I don't think I'm really OCD either, but I do some, uh, funny things sometimes.

Congrats, Manda!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

Sarah, what is The Rules? I can't tell if you're joking or not.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

http://www.svh3.com/calendar/2005/Whip%20It%20Out%202005_html_2784b47e.jpg

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)

jaymc we were talking about it on the Noise Board, some thread about boners I think. That's from whence this idea sprung.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

Amanda: 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19, 23, 29, 31, 37, 43, 47.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:09 (twenty years ago)

robots in love, while you're here, recommend me your fave River North art galleries, if you have any. I've been spending my lunch time perusing them lately. So far my favorite is this one.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

So, one of the things I bitched about on my LJ today was how frightening it was trying to babysit this client's toddler at my desk for a little while. Mostly, I was freaked out thinking I could never handle motherhood. Just add this to my list of 1001 things I freaked out about today. ANYWHO, a coworker who saw me with the baby earlier just said, "Sarah, you really looked like you had some maternal instinct there." And then he laughed for a really long time and said, "Oh, no no. I was just kidding. You didn't AT ALL! BWAH HA HA HA"

xpost - it's a joke, John

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

xpost - see, i just got a pain in my back. honestly. thanks. prime numbers are wretched.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

John: This is The Rules book. It's written for women who need a little extra help learning how to snag a man. Examples include rules on how many dates to wait before doin' it, what it means when a guy waits a few days to call to ask you out again, shit like that.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:12 (twenty years ago)

http://www.zggallery.com/images/woolfalk_spidersdiet.jpg

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:13 (twenty years ago)

Is there anything special I need to know about this show tomorrow night? Will it start on time? Should we be there early? Is there parking around there?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

17 and 43 are the two worst (common) prime numbers, for the record. repeat offenders, like richard marx.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

xpost - see, i just got a pain in my back. honestly. thanks. prime numbers are wretched.

You're weird. Prime numbers are great. They're very feminine and magical.

Then again, I revulsed on the "comma roundtable" thread when Nabisco deliberately did that thing that I hate that he does: hyphenate a two-word adjective phrase where the first word is an adverb that ends in "-ly." I told him I'd been wanting to complain about his usage of that for a long time, and he said "that anxiously-awaited moment has now arrived!" and I swear I looked around for white-out that I could apply to my monitor.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

xpost You hate 17? :( :( :(

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

Amaaaanddda, you probably won't have much trouble finding somewhere to park on the street, but I don't think there's a lot or anything. I don't think you need to be there early, but it might start on time.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I can usually find parking on Grand, within a block or so.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

17 is a great number and John and I are calling you out on it!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:20 (twenty years ago)

fine, 17 is fine, i guess. but only because it's between 16 and 18. the only thing good about 37 is that it's so deliciously close to being 38.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)

I have a friend back in VA who is OBSESSED with the number 37. He even had a band called 37.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

Parking should be easy.
I would advise you to get there reasonably on time, though now there is a "singer-songwriter" playing before us.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

Do you hate Winger?!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

really? what's wrong with him? (i'm kidding. prime numbers are fine for everyone else, i don't deny people their joy, but i don't like them and will continue to be repulsed by them for no apparent reason.)

ok. we'll be there on time. maybe a little early. woo!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

I don't particularly like Winger. I prefer Europe.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

haha, jordan!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

nick,
You already mentioned a few faves upthread: @l@n Koppel, C@rl H@mmer. From ZG, i like Gr3gory J@cobson's work--it's so grotesque. I used to work at Zoll@/Lieberm@n, but half of the stuff they show there is crap, the other half is pretty good, depending on what they have up. University of Illinois' gallery, I-Sp@ce occassionally has interesting work...um can't remember if Stephen D@iter photographer is over there, but that's good. Otherwise, there's not that much I really like over there.

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

no one's calling me out on calling prime numbers "feminine and magical"?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

I just don't like 17. I'm sorry. I like the WORD seventeen though. How about that for a compromise. Can we still be friends?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

jaymc, i think she'll probably give you some pretty clear signals if you should invite her up to your place

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:26 (twenty years ago)

Later, dudes/dawgs. It's time for me to go hang out at Nick's work until he's done. WEEEEKKKEEENNNDDDD! WHOOOO HOOO!!!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:27 (twenty years ago)

See you tomorrow, homiez.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

Thanks, robotsinlove. I saw some pretty shitty art today until I stumbled on ZG.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

Have a good weekend, Chicagoans.
http://www.swezlex.com/gregoryjacobsen/images/jacobsen_blustering_bullies_embark.jpeg

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

john, WTF?! "feminine & magical" my ass!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

confidential to mark: that painting is right up my alley!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

I would like to add: In spite of your feminine, magical horseshit, good luck tonight, stud.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

jaymc is this the girl who wrote you a missed connections on craigslist? im waiting for something to happen w/ your secret admirer

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:41 (twenty years ago)

we all are1

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

1 = !

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

no, i've given up on secret admirer girl. this is the girl who i went out with a few weeks ago, who is perfectly nice and everything, but i'm not sure if there were SPARKS, even though i've thought she was cute for several years now and i think she feels similarly about me.

sometimes i worry that she seems conservative, not politically, but just ... well, in the sense that if i invite her up to my place and she says no thanks, that it wouldn't necessarily mean she wasn't interested. get me?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

you're afraid she won't take the bait of your raging hard on?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

WHO AM I TODAY?!?!?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

If this flirtation has been going on for a FEW YEARS, she's probably just really nervous now that something's actually happening.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

Prime numbers are kind of cold and angular, now that you mention it.

xpost, John maybe you can borrow Sarah's temporary kitten to use as bait?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

Who am I today? kelsey and I are Trading Spaces! Maybe this is FREAKY FRIDAY!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

jordan, that's a great idea! all LADIES like kittens!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

I don't know if it's fair to say the flirtation has been going on for several years. I mean, I did find out that she liked me close to two years ago now, but I also didn't see her at all for over a year.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

WHY DO I KEEP SHIFTING BETWEEN LOWERCASE AND CONVENTIONAL CAPITALIZATION? FUCK.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

i hope i never have to date again

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)

john,

take her back to your place & pull out the kitten & a burger king bag with two burgers in it. let the kitten drop from your arms & as it runs up the stairs to your door, shake the bk bag at the date & say (as you eyeball your apartment window), "i think i have something you might like up there!"

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

I don't understand how someone could wait that long to make a move -- years?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

kelsey you are silly today!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

and I like it!

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

Meaning her, not you.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

oh good. i get in these lil' squirrely fits sometimes.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

Also, let me know when we can meet for lunch.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

the bk stuff made me giggle.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

wanna grab a bk for lunch?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

Shaking a bag of burgers is always funny. Particularly when it leads to sex.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

what if it just leads to next?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

okay. i think i need to get out of here. in my big girl shoes. p.s. i bought big girl shoes yesterday. they're high heels!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

I also like the implication that jaymc will have been discretely carrying the kitten around with him for the entire date, just waiting for the right moment.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 August 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

Amanda -- I think she was dating someone else at the time, maybe? I'm not entirely sure what her life has been like in the last two years. I mean, I have dated someone else since then, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

Hi, you guys post too much. I'm in Milwaukee. It's quaint.

xpost up there, you should totally take public transit. You live in Chicago! Driving is for chumpaholics. If I was doing the dating thing, I would be appauled if someone drove somewhere that was easily accessible by public transit. We took the El to our wedding!

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 12 August 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that's what I decided, Jeff.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)

Okay, I just skimmed the million posts everyone made.

I'm attending a wedding up here, and it's crazy to imagine having to plan a wedding that was any bigger than ours. I LIKE have the reception 3 blocks from where you live, instead of having to drive out from Milwaukee to some strange botanical gardens in Wisconsin. How am I going to get loaded tonight?

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Friday, 12 August 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

All botanical gardens are strange.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 12 August 2005 21:27 (twenty years ago)

Ooh, was it the Domes? The three tits on the Milwaukee skyline?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 12 August 2005 21:33 (twenty years ago)

No, Boerner Botanical Gardens. I got there early (well, actually I got there on time but all the other bridesmaids were late) and had some time to kill so I wandered around and hung out with nature and I saw two deer! Then I almost got shit on by a bird and had a run in with some insects so I came back to Chicago forever.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 13 August 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

hey i totally bought a plane ticket to chicago y'all

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Saturday, 13 August 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

We're getting Indian food tonight.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Saturday, 13 August 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

Erg I'm sorry we missed the FF show! We spent two days being in a wedding in Milwaukee and needed to not be around people for a bit. Or at least I did. From the outside, the wedding was a really lovely event but from the inside, it was full of insanity and cruel mothers and upper middle class white people on the verge of Don Delillo-style mid-life crisis FREAKOUTS and it was more than I could bear. (Note: the bride and groom are wonderful and I am glad they are married so they can continue to be a unified front against the creeping craziness of their relatives.)

Now I still have a ton of work to do and don't know if I can go play kick ball, which makes me very very sad.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 14 August 2005 13:48 (twenty years ago)

That's cool, dudes, even if EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR FRIENDS was there: Robin, Sayjal, their whole posse, etc. It was a fun show, thanks to those who came.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 14 August 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

I'm glad the NC-to-Chicago contingent REPRESENTED.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 14 August 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

hey, the show last night was great. how was the dance party? sorry i left suddenly, i had to make a phone call, and then by the time i got outside, i realized i was kinda tired and didn't much feel like dancing.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 14 August 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

We're getting Indian food in, like, an hour (meanwhile, I am at work, argh).

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 14 August 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

What a strange year. Who would think that June would be the hottest month? And who would think that the middle of August would be so pleasant? I haven't even had a fan on for the last two nights, and the 10-day forecast is no different.

I love you, Chicago, but you perplex me.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 14 August 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)

It's not like Texas! I was trying to explain this to a friend of mine who lives in Dallas: August is no hotter than any other summer month here.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 00:00 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, this thread needs you.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 August 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)

The Indian food hit the spot. I had lamb masala and we both got vegetable pakora and free ice cream.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 August 2005 01:32 (twenty years ago)

It's been that way here, too. It's been 60-70F the past few days, which is LOVELY ! its nice to wake up sweat free

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 15 August 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)

Hooray first day of work!

I doubt I'll post much.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 15 August 2005 11:03 (twenty years ago)

http://tinypic.com/al0tqd.jpg

...my legs hurt so bad. kickball really takes a lot out of a person. more ILX-relevant photos to come.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)

Believe it or not, he's walking on air.
http://tinypic.com/al0ww0.jpg

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 13:15 (twenty years ago)

Nick and the Welch's grill. Sarah - get well soon!!
http://tinypic.com/al0y08.jpg

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)

sorry to have missed it!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

wow, is that really me? my legs hurt, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 14:08 (twenty years ago)

indeed, that's you. i don't understand how i can be a relatively fit, gym-going person who is brought to the ground by one game of kickball. i wish i could organize more picnics in the park. the cooking and grilling and eating was really fun for me. kickball was fun, but cooking doesn't make my legs ache.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

I guess kickball uses muscles you're not used to using. That looks like so much fun! I'm sorry we missed it, too!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 August 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

yeah, kristi (of nicwj fame) and nick chatted for a while, your name was invoked as a master of worker justice. we grilled a lot of meats and soy products.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

One more photo: Me, skanking to the beat. I mean, kicking a ball that was probably a pop fly and probably was the 3rd out.
http://tinypic.com/al2iol.jpg

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 14:29 (twenty years ago)

yeah, kristi (of nicwj fame) and nick chatted for a while, your name was invoked as a master of worker justice. we grilled a lot of meats and soy products.

I just talked to her and she remembered Nick as a rock star of grand proportions.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 August 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Meaning that he's a big star, not that he's a big dude.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 August 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Oddly enough, like half the people at the party knew of C@nasta somehow -- not just the members of L3sser B1rds of Parad1se, with whom we've played a couple of shows, but also a girl who booked the studio we recorded in ("C@nasta? Oh yeah, engineer Ted Ch0, right?") and a guy who played in a band we shared a bill with a year and a half ago at Schubas, who's apparently friends with my friends Jon and Sara and have met other C@nasta members through that connection. Weird.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

i thought it was funny when joe asked you if you had heard of your own band. we were all sorts of cool with our party full of big time rock stars.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of which, this Saturday at the Beat Kitchen, y'all. Preview of the new album.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)

I mean, we're also playing a headlining set. It's a Badresa.com-sponsored show.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)

Where is chicago today?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)

I was wondering the same thing. I know that Sarah was sick yesterday and was probably going to the doctor today. Also, I know that I'm here, I'm bored and it's my dad's birthday.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

Sarah's not at work. I have a boss today and so I'm doing work and also I feel weird.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)

I feel like I need to sleep for 100 years, Rip-Van-Winkle-stylee.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

i seriously slept so much of saturday, which was not my favorite since it was my last saturday with leaf for awhile. he left today & all i feel like doing is sleeping.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

I'm around, but I'm really busy. It's deadline week.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

i've been having weird sleep issues too. last night i woke up at 3AM and finally fell back asleep at 4:30 or so. i NEVER do that! except for last night, when i did that.

now i'm tired and i'm not sure what i should do: write to a long-lost friend, work, or make to-do lists.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:25 (twenty years ago)

This was kind of a weird weekend and I feel like the weirdness is carrying over into today.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

I wonder how Jeff's first day of work is going.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

I probably shouldn't tell you all this, but B3n is totally in love with R0bin's friend C@riss@.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Based on like a 5-10 minute conversation they had.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

I have no idea who that is.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)

She was a Rockette! She has short black hair and was wearing a white shirt at the show on Sat.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:40 (twenty years ago)

Oh. I heard that someone was a Rockette but I didn't see her.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

A Rockette? That's so cool. I don't remember seeing her either.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

did he get her number?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

White shirts are hot.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)

?
are you just being ridicle?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

yes

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:53 (twenty years ago)

oh.

do you have any interest in seeing murderball?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

yes

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

i saw broken flowers and the aristocrats this weekend, i think you would like both.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

what's up with your big job decision, kelsey? did you hear from the guy?

also: i need to do something for my dad's birthday, but every present i give him ends up gathering dust (i mean that quite literally) by the side of his rocking chair. that's right, his ROCKING CHAIR. what should i do for his birthday? it's today.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

i also want to see grizzly man. lots of good docs all of a sudden.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

yeah yeah -- grizzly man. me too. dan too.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

i'll go see murderball with anyone. i'd love the aristocrats, i think. what's broken flowers?
i really liked grizzly man. i might even be up for seeing it again.

in job news: i don't think i'm going to take it. it's a little bit more involved than this, but what it boils down to is that my gut is saying "no."

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)

what does your dad do besides rock, amanda?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

haha i just read ebert's review of deuce bigalow: european gigolo:

"Speaking in my official capacity as a Pulitzer Prize winner, Mr. Schneider, your movie sucks."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:04 (twenty years ago)

broken flowers = jim jarmusch film starring bill murray.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

xpost - well then, definitely go with the gut. particularly if it has served you in the past.

my dad was forced into retirement by losing an election 4 years ago. since then, he has spent a lot of time in the rocking chair. he likes reading, but reads more non-fiction than fiction. he says he likes cooking, but every time i give him a cooking-related gift i see it unwrapped on their kitchen counter. he's obsessed with fitness and just got a major buzzcut, his first new haircut in 40 years. he's really smart, but sort of unmotivated lately. my dad, in a nutshell.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

one more thing: alcohol is not a good gift for my dad.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

haha! leaf & i watched ebert give his review of deuce! we were laughing so hard!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

Did you like The Aristocrats, John? I'm seeing it right after work.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

amanda, two questions:
what's your price range? & what has your dad done for his fitness stuff? has he joined a gym, bought weights . . .?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

price range: $35-50. could be less if it's a book, but books are more likely to sit untouched. he keeps a detailed log of his workouts, down to every single rep he does (note: i am NOT AT ALL LIKE THIS) and he has a B0wflex thingie that he uses. should i maybe get him a little workout outfit? that would be SO cute, my dad with a new little hip workout outfit. is that a good gift, you think?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

I'd really like to see The Aristocrats, but it's not playing here yet. There is a theater playing Murderball and the penguin movie though, I'm thinking about making a double feature out of it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

you could definitely go the outfit route . . . or even just a smattering of littler things if you didn't want to commit to the entire outfit. you could get him a nalgene bottle, or maybe just a sports bottle of some kind, one of those super micro towels (for wiping off sweat), wicking socks, a runners watch (cheap timex thingy if he times his in-between rep times) . . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

I did like The Aristocrats. I think Ebert was entirely uncharitable to it. The joke, in its most distilled version, isn't all that funny, and even in its expanded version, the punchline comes as an anti-climax -- but this is very much acknowledged by many of the comedians in the film. It's not about the joke, it's about the telling, and it's really entertaining to watch these comedians relish the telling. (Plus, it's not just a sequence of people telling the same joke -- some talk about where they first heard the joke, who's the best teller of it, what your version of the joke tells someone about yourself, etc.) Funniest: probably Bob Saget and Sarah Silverman.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

i have to say that i love the idea of this joke being a thread that ties them all together. call me saccarine, but i like it.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

xpost - excellent ideas! the sweat towel is an especially good one. thank you for your help. may the shopping commence.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:30 (twenty years ago)

my pleasure. come mid october, i'll be asking the same!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

Kelsey has good ideas! I never know what to get my step dad, so I always end up getting him books he doesn't read or some dumb dad gift or some sort of cigar paraphenalia.

Today I had to trek to the loop to pick up my books for school. They cost nearly $600! OUCH. But I get my new U-Pass next Monday and that almost makes up for it.

What's wrong with Sarah? Nick, please tell her I hope she feels better. Also does Robin know that B3n is crushing on her pal? That would be so cute!

I'm back and forth on The Aristocrats and Broken Flowers because I don't always like Jim Jarmusch. I would see Grizzly Man again in a heartbeat. I really want to see Junebug because it's about people from North Carolina who move to Chicago.

What else... I haven't heard from Jeff but let me just tell you that he looked ADORABLE in his shirt and tie this morning. He's so cute!!!!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

i really didn't enjoy coffee & cigarettes, so i'm hesitant to see broken flowers.

i'm all about docs, though. i think i realized that it's my favorite genre, although i'm sure 10 people who know me could've told you the same.

my brother is coming into town tomorrow. anyone up for heavy drinking on wednesday? he's really into car bombs . . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

What's Grizzly Man about?

Jeff should post once today just to baptize his new work computer.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

because I don't always like Jim Jarmusch

I don't, either, but I liked this one.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

he did upthread, didn't he? or maybe that was not from work?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

Of course I'm up for drinking. Are you gonna be out late on Weds.? I have band practice.

Tonight we're listening to the final mixes of the album!! I'm scared.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

Apparently Matt and Ted slept in the studio on Saturday night to get it done.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

Wow, have you guys seen this: http://www.msichicago.org/bodyworlds/? Maddie sent me the link, it looks crazy.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

well, if it's any indication, i'm taking thursday off of work!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

I still haven't seen Body Worlds: maybe I should go before it closes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

I'm sure everyone else has already gone.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

i'll go!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

That's cool, jaymc.

I was supposed to do more mixing on the new Digdown record on Sunday at my friend's studio, but the laptop with all the tracks somehow ended up in northern Wisconsin and won't be back until Wednesday. :(

Btw, recording a seven piece band on four tracks makes the mix both much easier and much harder.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

Oh dear. That bones-and-muscle MSI thing. I can't look at it. I keep thinking that it could be the body of someone I know and it oogs me out. My body and I have an agreement that I give it what it needs (food), it gives me what I need (mobility, consciousness) and we don't ask each other a lot of questions.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

i've been reading "stiff" & i think it would tie in nicely with the exhibit.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

what's stiff?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:55 (twenty years ago)

It's a popular nonfiction book about what happens after you die. There was another, better book on the same subject that came out at around the same time, but "Stiff" got more press. I wish I could remember the name of the other book.

I would love to go to bodyworlds. Yes, plz.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:03 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, are you talking about Bodies in Motions and at Rest by Thoams Lynch?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

Or Thomas, for that matter?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

no. It was another book by a forensic something or other.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:12 (twenty years ago)

Did you hear about the knock-off Bodyworlds that was touring for a while? Some Chinese guy who was a student of the German spooky dude that invented the plastination technique. He did not perfect the technique. The bodies slowly decayed and smelled like dead bodies.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

Wow.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:15 (twenty years ago)

http://www.boingboing.net/2005/05/26/plastinated_bodies_d.html

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

Ew ew ew ew ew ew ew ew. I like how on the Bodyworlds website there's a button for "job offers." There are no job offers currently, but that must mean that he offers plastination apprenticeships. Anyone?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)

i would totally do it. but i'm a little sick inside.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps they're accepting body applicants?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

I haven't seen the Bodyworlds exhibit and I would like to. I also read and adored Stiff. My friend Courtney bought it for me back when I was thinking about going to mortuary school. (There wasn't a school anywhere near where we lived so I went to paralegal school, instead.) So x-post: yes I would be a plastination apprentice, or donate my body after death to be plastinated, sliced, and displayed to other creeps like Kesley and me.

Jeff posted from home up there. He left me a voicemail message that said he was a little overwhelmed so I think he's going to avoid casual internet usage for now.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:25 (twenty years ago)

i'm kinda adoring the book too. i feel like the author & i would be good friends & make each other laugh a lot.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

Did you (jenny, kelsey) read books about sick girls when you were a kid? There's that whole genre of books aimed at young girls that feature various ailments like they're accessories. Deenie (scoliosis) being the most famous, I think. That and Alex, The Life of a Child (cystic fibrosis) Anyway, i read those books like crazy. But they were more emotional than grisly. But they were pretty gross.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

i think i've always been sort of attracted to that sort of thing. i loved deenie, the acorn people. i can't think of all the books i read off the top of my head. i think i related to people with something tangibly "wrong" with them. i probably felt like i had something tangibly wrong, but it was intangible. maybe i'm reading too much into this!!! um, pun not intended.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

yeah, me too.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:46 (twenty years ago)

I don't recall the sick girls books as a genre, but I did read an article about them in Bitch magazine recently, and I do remember reading at least one about anorexia.

I jumped from kids books to cheesy adult horror paperbacks at a very precocious and, to my mother, alarming age*. John Belairs (The House with the Clock in its Walls!) and anything creepy or gross were always my favorite kids books, though, so I don't know why it was a surprise. So in my own way, I liked books about people with things wrong with them as well. HORRIBLE SUPERNATURAL DEADLY EVIL THINGS.

*not that impressive given that most of them are written on a 4th grade reading level anyway.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

Come to think of it, my love for all things horror as a literary and movie genre is one of the most consistent things about me.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 August 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

OMG - you read john bellairs too? you're the only person aside from my 3rd grade best friend mandy and i who i've ever known who has known who he was! when i found out who edward gorey was, i recognized him as the guy who did the cover illustrations for john bellairs' books. ha!

i didn't know there was an article in Bitch about sick girl books. i liked the anorexia ones too. hmm. i feel a little gross even talking about this.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

John Bellairs has been popping up a lot for me lately. I don't remember the books, but I was described Edward Gorey to Evan as "the arist from the PBS 'Mystery!' intro" and he goes, "Oh yeah, the House with the Clock in its Walls!" And Maddie, being a huge Gorey fan, was familiar with JB as well.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:10 (twenty years ago)

i recently bought a copy of Wilkie Collins' The Woman in White because it had a Gorey cover and i read it and i pretty much loved it. the shocker ending wasn't quite as scandalous as i had hoped, but it was entertaining for a 19th century horror/mystery.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:18 (twenty years ago)

when i found out who edward gorey was, i recognized him as the guy who did the cover illustrations for john bellairs' books. ha!

Me too! Me too!

i didn't know there was an article in Bitch about sick girl books.

I think I still have it if you'd like to read it. It was very Bitch-like but still an interesting perpective.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

I have a really strange craving for crap dip, like the kind that you would get as an hors d'oeuvre at someone's cocktail party that goes good with Ritz crackers.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

like the kind that contains cheesefood as an ingredient?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

it's not actually cheese, it's not anything else...it's cheesefood.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

jenny, i'm sure we have some at my house. my roommate gets weird cravings for that stuff. she loves the spectrum of chip dip to cheese spreads to, yes, cheesefood.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

is that a word you guys just made up? or is that an actual foodstuff?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)

I get weird cravings for Combos sometimes and have to run downstairs and buy them.
x-post
I loved The House With a Clock in Its Walls, and the sequel, whose name escapes me. I liked Gorey a lot as a kid because I loved Mystery! and he did the drawings for the credits. This also ties into my childhood crush on Jeremy Brett as Sherlock Holmes, which I am sure I have mentioned on ILX before.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:47 (twenty years ago)

it's a real word. cheesefood. look on the "port wine cheese spread" it says "cheesefood."

i also love combos. nacho cheese pretzel.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:48 (twenty years ago)

i meant to add that y'all had more sophisticated taste than i . . . VC Andrews was my hook, line & sinker right around 6th grade.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

I really liked V.C. Andrews until I discovered Erica Jong, and then it was like...woah.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)

more like fear of FUCKING, know what i mean?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:52 (twenty years ago)

what?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)

hi. i'm working late tonight.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

what happens to ILX after 5? I've never known!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

it's just me, baby.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

it just gets hotter and hotter, kelsey

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

fer reals?

talk of cheesefood, fucking & now it's just you, me & mandee?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

it doesn't have to go too far to get hotter than cheesefood.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

(i'll be leaving shortly and the hotness can resume/commence)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

I'm here too, but don't mind me. I'll just watch.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:06 (twenty years ago)

I'm still here! I work until 9 most nights, but am only here until 7 tonight because I came in early to meet with a worker who subsequently could not make her appointment. Get the crab dip. Let's hang out.

I definitely read VC Andrews with much morbid curiosity. I find those books extremely distasteful when I look back on them now, but I was just enthralled with their grossness as a youngster. The Heaven series was my favorite. They threw her in a boiling hot tub of water and scrubbed her skin off with a wire brush! Child abuse is so engrossing!

Gawd. If I ever have kids, no VC Andrews books.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

i fucking love V.C. andrews

my sister and i get a fresh copy of 'flowers in the attic' every year

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

i've never done this in front of people before.

i'm nervous.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)

When do you usually start work, Jenny?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

Look! This person crochets nipples: http://www.flickr.com/photos/misskoco/tags/nipple/

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:11 (twenty years ago)

My schedule is generally 3 - 9 on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday and then 9 - 3 on Thursday and Friday with lots of time left over for marching around in circles with signs, chanting and singing songs of worker justice. I can pretty much come and go as I please, though. Nobody really pays any attention to us back here. Also, for all you stalkers, this is my last week with that schedule since classes start next Monday.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

Jenny (or anyone really): do you have any leads on jobs for someone fresh out of college looking to do nonprofit work? Someone who may have just moved to Chicago but realized the place she was supposed to work for was a giant sham? NB: I don't know this girl personally.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

(Poli sci degree, I believe.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

http://www.koerperwelten.com/en/pages/koerperspende.asp

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:21 (twenty years ago)

whoa. got caught into doing actual work for awhile!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:30 (twenty years ago)

John, maybe. There are quite a few organizations that place recent graduates in non-profit do-gooder type jobs. One is Lutheran Volunteer Corps. We get a lot of people here through that program. I don't think you have to be a Lutheran but you do have to hang out with Lutherans fairly reguarly. There's also Americorps. A LOT of people that I am in law school with put in a few years with Americorps. Public Allies is similar. Teach for America is another one if she's interested in teaching.

I know there are a lot more of those types of places, but it seems like most folks who end up in the nonprofit world start out with these placement services. If she's interested in just applying for jobs, I can keep an eye out for her, but I'm not very informed on what's available. If she finds a job to apply for and I know anyone at the organization, I'll definitely put in a good word for her.

Please feel free to give her my email, too - j3nburg3ss at m4c d0t c0m and I can put her in contact with a ton of people who have done these programs in the past.

OH also if she is around here and she ends up taking a job just to make some money and wants to do some volunteer work, I can hook her up with a spot in worker justice land, for realz.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:35 (twenty years ago)

I'm dying to know where she was going to work but is now suspicious of. A lot of nonprofits are run like shit and are totally legit, despite looking shady as hell. Bleeding hearts are so bad at running businesses.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)

np0.n3t has a lot of postings.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)

AWESOME, thank you.

I don't know where she was going to work. This is like the sister of a friend of a friend. Seriously.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)

xpost you too, kels.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

jenny's the awesomest.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

Oh okay, well if she is that distant you can still give her my email but no promises on putting in a good word, unless you can vouch that she's not an asshole or anything.

Cripes, I just got my first reading assignment for this semester. *vomit*

xpost: nuh uh! I just work with a bunch of career non-profit people!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)

Jeff bought a duck! To eat! For dinner!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 August 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago)

indeed.

I'm home now. My entire day was spent reading documentation, training manuals, common problem databases and eavesdropping on support calls. Crazy, there is so much new stuff I have to learn. At least it will be challenging. I didn't post today because I don't even have a login yet, or even a security card to get in the door without ringing the bell. I also forgot the code to get into the bathroom like 15 times.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 15 August 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)

did you get the duck on argyle? one of the hanging roasted ones?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 15 August 2005 22:21 (twenty years ago)

yeah, 11.50 for a whole ducky. cheap dinner.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Monday, 15 August 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)

And tasty, too! Although now I have to find creative ways to use all this leftover duck.

Tomorrow night: duck fried rice.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 15 August 2005 23:10 (twenty years ago)

Funniest: probably Bob Saget and Sarah Silverman.

Yeah, two of the best. Sarah's wasn't gut-busting, though, just kind of quietly brilliant. And Bob Saget's was soooooo sick. It was funnier to see him laugh at himself. "What am I doing?" My favorite was Gilbert Gottfried, not the telling of the joke itself, but his little exposition at the beginning: "I know what you're thinking. Wait wait wait, when did blood come into this? I'll explain." His description involves the word "longshoreman." I lost my shit. And George Carlin's was pretty great, but do not sit through it is you're already feeling any kind of gastrointestinal distress. That voice he does makes it, that old voice, that nasally accent guy. What is that accent? Long Island? "Corn. And peanuts, of course peanuts."

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 00:03 (twenty years ago)

And OMG Whoopie Goldberg! WTF was that?! I almost wet myself.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)

The bathroom requires a security code?! Do they keep the really confidential DOCUMENTS there?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 00:15 (twenty years ago)

One of my favorite things about Mitch Hedberg is how seemed to think that the word "documents" is hilarious.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 00:16 (twenty years ago)

It was when he said it.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)

"Don’t even act like I didn't buy a doughnut, I've got the documentation right here."

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 00:27 (twenty years ago)

Oh dear. RIP Mitch Hedberg, Mr "I like to call it by its OTHER name: SPONGE RUINER." And the koala story, that's funny shit.

I'm happy there's so much John Bellairs love in Chicago! For some reason I think he's a Michigan native -- in any case I used to claim that he was when parents came into the Grand Rapids bookstore looking for G00s3bumps titles and I'd put them onto Bellairs' trail, instead. My mother read me "The House with a Clock in its Walls" when I was 4 or 5 and I have the strangest impressions of the story that were not borne out in my adult re-reads.

I feel like I'm eavesdropping, reading this thread and not being in Chicago/your social circle. It's just that...I'm from Michigan and you're on the shore of my lake, which I miss, and reading about Chi-town happenings makes me feel closer to my small-town home but still surrounded by P!O!P! and urban comforts.

― Laurel, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 01:13 (twenty years ago)

Hi Laurel!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 01:21 (twenty years ago)

That's sweet, Laurel. We're not that exclusive, really. You'd be surprised. It's really just that nobody else likes us.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)

The bathroom requires a security code?!

The bathroom at my office requires a security code, too. It was sort of off-putting when I started there, since we have a) ID cards that we need to swipe to get access to the building itself and the elevators and b) security codes to get in all of the doors on each floor and the bathroom. My previous job was a small company in the suburbs where you could pretty much just walk right in, but I guess this is downtown. I was warned about leaving my stuff on my desk if I left for lunch -- there have been reports of crazies somehow making it past all these security measures and stealing stuff -- but I decided that the idea of locking up my bag in my own desk was too much, so I don't. In fact, I think I lost the key.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 05:59 (twenty years ago)

P.S. I have never even heard of this John Bellairs fellow. The things you learn.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 06:00 (twenty years ago)

morning! i got ready to npr this morning & who but canasta was in the background of pledge drive talk over?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)

oh yeah! i heard about that. "sl0w d0wn chicago," right?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

Hey that's pretty cool!

I had an ILX dream last night. I dreamed that this online discussion took place in the back of a magazine, but I kept losing the page and having to re-read old posts to get to where I left off.

That's weird, considering that I know or have at least met most of the people who post in the Chicago thread.

I have my personal trainer appointment this morning. In like 15 minutes. Whoops!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:38 (twenty years ago)

AWESOME!!!

p.s. I'm totally hooked on the new missy elliott album. i say this b/c it has a couple of excellent work out songs on it!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

xpost: yes! slow down!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)

A bathroom that requires a security code? I work three blocks from jaymc and our office doesn't require any ID to get in, nor does the bathroom. One time there were rumors of a marauding weirdo who was stealing stuff from people's desks, but I never saw him/her/it.

And:
1) Hi Laurel
2) Dan and I are going to see Grizzly Man tonight and I can't wait
3) I feel really lost because while I know of the Aristocrats movie and I understand the premise, I don't know the joke. I don't even know the joke about the girl from Nantucket.

Good Morning!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

Our coffee maker up and stopped working this morning so I busted out our espresso machine and made cappucino. I am proud of myself!

I heartily recommend this Mutant Disco compilation I've been listening to to everyone. It's great.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=&sql=10:zy1m965okep7

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Kels, which are your favorites on The Cookbook? I've liked "Lose Control" for a while, but "Irresistible Delicious" (ft. Slick Rick) may be my new favorite.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Nick, my brother has that comp: it's good.

Amanda, I didn't know the Aristocrats joke until I saw the movie. It's not a particularly well-known joke, except among comedians.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)

Don't tell me!!! I want to be surprised!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)

john: i just started listening to it recently . . . lose control is great. meltdown is awesome & kinda hilarious (although i don't think it intends to!). Hello? KITTY LITTER?!?!?! Just awesome.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

xpost - That's a relief about the joke, although jokes are not my forte.

I'm pretty excited because I saw on ILM that someone had posted the entire original Bedazzled soundtrack, which has been impossible for me to find/afford since it was never released on CD, at least not to my knowledge. Vinyl copies are $$$$. Now I have something to tide me over until (if ever) it's released on CD. Yay!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

Good morning, Chicago.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

Bedazzled? Is that the Harold Ramis film w/Brendan Fraser and Elizabeth Hurley? What's so great about the sdtrk?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

yay sarah! you were sure missed yesterday. feeling any better?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

Uh-huh. My face is still kind of itchy. Apparently I forgot to put some ointment on the top of my left cheek (not THAT kind of cheek - COME ON!). Mostly, I'm just tired and snippy. Just ask my bf.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:29 (twenty years ago)

are you back at work?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

Yup.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)

See? Snippy.

Amanda, I'm sorry I missed your party. I also missed the last party kelsey threw. I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaadddddddddddd. Also, I'm sickly.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

Bedazzled? Is that the Harold Ramis film w/Brendan Fraser and Elizabeth Hurley? What's so great about the sdtrk?
No, I meant the 1967 original, starring Dudley Moore, Peter Cook and Eleanor Bron. The title track to the sdtk is ooooowesome, so I wanted to find the whole thing, but it's impossible. Now I found it! Dudley Moore and Peter Cook did the soundtrack too.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)

sarah, you've been more social than i. you can count on it.

although, if last night is any indication, i'll be feasting on the company of others. i sure got real sad & lonely without leaf around.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

Oh -- and Sarah -- don't feel bad about not coming! I tried to send some food home with Nick but he gave me this "You aren't serious...are you?" sort of look so I didn't do it. But I wanted to send some food home for you, had it been more convenient. I'm glad you're feeling better!!!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

john: i also really like "my struggles"

and with that, i'll quit talking about this cd. it's just the first one to grab me in awhile.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

Thanks.

Nick put up pix of our show Saturday on my flickr page - Jeff & Jenny's friend R0bin took them.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

I'm still loving the new Missy, esp. Can't Stop, Mommy, Bad Man, Click Clack, everything really.

I see that Grizzly Man is playing down the hall from my office, can anyone give me a good reason to see it?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

"My Struggles" is good: I love when Mary J. comes in.

I took a cab to work again today. Why? Because I'm lazy and didn't feel like getting ready in time. Also I must like throwing away money.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

Jordan -- down the hall from your office? What are you, a concession stand manager?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

it's awesome. you don't need more reason than that.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

i kinda kicked ass this morning. i woke up, felt like sleeping in. realizing that i wasn't falling right back to sleep, i woke up, threw some clothes on & hit the gym. lifted for 30 minutes & then rocked the bike for a nice, hard ride in.
treated myself to a bagel since i was STARVING by the time i got here.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

BOO YA, Kelsey!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

No, we have office space in a mall! It's a really crappy mall, there are like five stores and a 'food court' with a choice between either subs or pizza. I have to constantly forge across the hallway, dodging mallwalkers and hairdressers (there is a cosmetology school in the mall and a bunch of hair & nail joints), to reach the two separately secured sections of the office.

However, it happens that one of the better 'art' theaters in town is right down the hall. I don't take advantage nearly enough.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)

You should see Grizzly Man because Werner Herzog says that the uniting factor of all living creatures is hatred and murder.

So that personal trainer thing... I am not going to be able to move much tomorrow. But she gave me a good workout and put me on a schedule so as long as I can keep it up I am going to be MONSTER FIT before too long. Also she said that everybody's feet fall asleep on the ellipse machine and it's not because I'm falling apart from the hips down.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of feet, do any of you atheltic types know of a good running shoe store? I need new kicks but I also need someone to help me find a good pair since I have big dumb feet and an over-pronation problem.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

What is this personal trainer thing? Did I miss this? I want a personal trainer so I can actually exercise without permanently injuring myself. (Bye bye, biking.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)

What's the schedule like?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

WAIT

did i hear bedazzled ST??

that is one of my favorite movies and I am DYING for the soundtrack

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

jenny, i really liked universal sole. it's in roscoe/lakeview. right near the whole foods, although the store itself is on lincoln. they're really nice & they'll look at your feet & how you walk & stuff. granted, that's the only pair of exercise-y type shoes i've bought in ages.
what helpful tips did the trainer give you? what's your new regime like? i'm excited for you!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

I cannot recommend the Bedazzled soundtrack enough! Please, if you like groovy-jazzy 60s instrumentals/soundtracks you ought to check it out. It might not be up for long!

It's here: http://recordbrother.typepad.com/imagesilike/vinyl_sharity/

I am feelin' groovy. Big time.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Go get it Mandee! It's AWESOME!

xpost - I didn't know that everyone's feet fell asleep on the elliptical machine! That's a huge relief. I was afraid I was becoming diabetic or something. UGE relief! I want secondhand personal trainer tips too.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)

xpost to myself: universal sole specializes in running shoes.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

John: I bought three sessions with a personal trainer through my gym.

My personal bad knees exercise tips: Strengthen the quadriceps, but limit the range of motion on the knee-bendy machines and stick to lighter weights, and stretch the hamstrings but good.

The schedule: At least 20 minutes of hard-core cardio five days a week, and 20 minutes of movement (like walking places or riding my bike to work) the other two days. Start out doing two days a week of the weight program she showed me today, then eventually move up to three days a week, always resting 24 hours in between weight days.

I usually do 30 - 45 minutes of cardio anyway three or four times a week anyway, and the weight stuff takes about an hour, so if I alternate days I should be able to stick to it without trying to read for classes on the exercise bike. (I tried it last semester and it dind't work).

xpost to Kelsey: Awesome! I don't actually run, but running shoe stores are where the shoe experts usually are so I will go check them out.

xpost to the Mands: I am totally going to check out this soundtrack. And with both (A)Mand(ee)(a)s nod of approval, I'm going to look for the movie, too.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:03 (twenty years ago)

it's best to find a store where they can look at your walk and help you out and such, but if you end up shopping elsewhere, i'd found that new balance has good running shoes for overpronation. some of them have little supportive post things in the arches. maybe lots do now, it's been an age since i've bought such shoes. they're good for a variation of foot widths too, whereas nikes are generally for narrower feet, for instance. or used to be, it's been a long time.

― juliaaa, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

i think i need to up my weight program. i usually only lift for about 30 minutes twice a week. i think having 20 minutes of hard cardio couldn't hurt either. did she say any preferences for this? elliptical? running?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

i have a pair of brooks that i really like & when i got them (at universal sole), they said i pronated a lot.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)

All this exercise talk is depressing me. My thighs are still massively sore from kickball.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

SQUEEZED is TONIGHT, dudes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

I want nothing more than to sit around and waste all day on ILX. This is not that day. I am about to tear my hair out over here. I hate this week. This is the week that we do everything. Send me your love. And later tonight, perhaps your booze.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

i have a tape of some indie pop band covering "love me" (you know the song dudley moore sings when he wishes he's a pop star)

seriously that film is soooooo good just be sure you dont rent the crappy remake with brendan fraser and elizabeth hurley

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

I had no idea it was a remake, even.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

ILXors: Give me ideas for things I can do on-stage tonight to kill time. (We only have five performers signed up.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

Also, just so y'all know, September is Le Mort Du Squeezed.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

xpost to Kelsey: I don't think it matters. I can't run (I feel like an old lady and am tired of typing the word "knees" but that's why - there was one glorious month before the knee problems started when I could run and it was really awesome) so I'm an ellipser/stationary biker almost exclusively. I think it's just whatever works to best get your heart rate up, though.

xpost to Juliaaaaaaaaa: Thanks for the tip! I'll look into NB shoes as well.

xpost to Mandee: I have an irrational hatred for Brendan Fraser so I definitely won't rent that one. Yick.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

jaymc are you having a big blowout going-away Squeezed in Sept.?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

Paunchy, Hi. Sorry work is sucking you dry.

"love me" makes me think of that cardigan's song. You know? I think it was on the Romeo & juliet soundtrack. Love me Love me say that you love me... I don't care 'bout anything but you---

What is this pronation business? My flat feet turn outwards. Is that it?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)

nick: YES.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

SJC: "Lovefool."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

I mean SCJ.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)

Is jaymc going somewhere?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

Mandee! "Love Me" is on heavy ro over here -- previously I had only been able to hear it if I watched my shitty VHS copy of the movie. Now I can put it on perma-repeat! Speaking of soundtracks, have you ever heard "Amanda" from Dionne Warwick's The Love Machine soundtrack? It's so good. The book is trashy and perfect too.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

Ay, jaymc, that's the one, laddy.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

NicknI are probably going to wh0le foods after work today. Recommend me your favorite wh0le foods products. Right now, I'm hankering for some annie's g0dess dressing and avocados.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)

Deli selections: Orzo with olives and feta. Tofu with cilantro pesto. Mango-jicama-corn salad. Emerald sesame greens.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)

Chef Earl's hummus/baba ghannouj.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

Over-pronation and the totally awesome condition condromalacia. This latter is usually found in active, knock-kneed teenaged girls or old women, but apparently can also manifest in formerly sedentary knock-kneed women in their late-20s and early-30s when, after years of straining their knees by being big fatties, they get up and start straining their knees by exercising and moving around and stuff. So this explains why I walk down stairs like an 90-year-old, am reluctant to go dancing, and wince when I run across the street.

Tell me about SQUEEZED. Is that the open mic-type thing where Jeff was going to perform something involving paperclips and self-fellatio?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

OMG! I'm so hungry!

Someone just called asking for Cathy. I said we have no such animal (didn't use those words). And she was like, "No? No Cathy H0rny?" And I started laughing at her.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

i like their whole kids peanut butter. i also buy their soymilk b/c it's usually cheaper.
cheers to chef earl! my favorite hummus!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

WF: Salads from the salad bar. Cheese! Cheese! Cheese! I can make a meal out of free cheese samples. Organic carrots. Some strange and wonderful fruit. Things that smell wonderful from the health and beauty section. COFFEE! Soy creamer.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)

Tell me about SQUEEZED. Is that the open mic-type thing where Jeff was going to perform something involving paperclips and self-fellatio?

Yes. Open mic/variety show. Whatever. But he only has two opportunities to do so now, tonight and on September 20, because I'm ending it after that. It was too much work to put together each month for something that never really caught on.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm... Well, my hips aren't aligned right, but when I was little the doc said that's what caused my legs to be twisted and my feet point the wrong ways - not the other way around. Thus the "Hey, everyone! Come watch sarah run like a duck!" 50 yard dash loveliness in elementary school.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Someone just called asking for Cathy. I said we have no such animal (didn't use those words). And she was like, "No? No Cathy H0rny?" And I started laughing at her.

haaaaaaaaaahahahahhaha. that's rich.

i'm bowlegged and have weak knees.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

We should start an "Oddly Misaligned Women" club or something.

Amanda! I am LOVING this RecordBrother site you linked to up there. I'm downloading kooky mp3s as we speak.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

Are you "weak in the knees?"

I think my body grew too fast and just didn't have time to do it right. At least I don't have horrible purple stretch marks on my back any more!

I can't believe I still have to wait 30 minutes for lunch. ARGH!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)

I supinate a lot when I walk so the outside of my shoes in always worn out. And my brother is one of the most bow-legged people I have ever known, he walks like a gunslinger.
x-post I have never been to a Wh0le foods. I am so provincial. I may go to Trader Joe's this weekend though. And perhaps the zoooo.
xxpost-Jordan that mall is WEIRD. I didn't even notice any normal stores, just the weird sub place.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

john! i don't know if i'm going to make it tonight b/c my brother comes into town. sometime. who knows. i should call & see if he's even left yet.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)

amanda, i think the band covering 'love me' is lollipop train - FYI

man now i am in the mood for some serious pete & dud

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Trader J0e's has great ravioli.

That's how my shoes are too, joce - the ousides get worn down because I put all my weight there. When I took yoga, the instructor had to keep giving me special pointers since my feet are all screwed up. I had to do a lot of the positions differently to stay balanced.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

Cathy H0rny?

I used to work with a Kathy H0rning. Close!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:47 (twenty years ago)

Kenan, hang in there man, it's always "I'll never survive another one of these!" followed by "that wasn't so bad." (I just got my copies of the monster August issue from the printer -- proof that I survived it.)

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

I work with a woman whose last name is H3rpe. And another one whose last name is H3ine. Pronounced like "heiney." My boss said her husband's name is Harry but I don't believe him.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

I want to make a nice, somewhat light dinner tonight for myself and that girl who I live with. What should I make? I'm thinking Greek salad, but there must be more.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

That must have been what she really said, jaymc, and I just misunderstood her. I mean, I laughed at her and she didn't seem to think it was funny.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

Preciosa! Mandee and I, in Dos Chicas Locas!
http://www.teacuerdas.com/images/nostalgia-personajes-pilimili7.jpg

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)

Mandee and me. Pili and Mili. I need some fresh air or my brain will continue to leak. Seeyousoonbye.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)

I bought LAMB CHOPS. I'm not sure that I've ever even had lamp chops before, much less made them. The dude at the deli suggested searing them in a pan and then putting the WHOLE PAN in the oven to broil. It sounds fun, now I just have to figure out what to use as a marinade.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:44 (twenty years ago)

http://www.judithannes.com/prodimg/AUR15083.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:46 (twenty years ago)

There was a really awesome Classics professor at my college named St3ve He1ny, and his wife ran for city council and there were Vote Heiny billboards all over town. He probably found it hilarious.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

I got my terrorism survival kit at work today. I feel safe.

Also, McDonalds has cheap wifi. Who knew?

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Cheap? Not free? Soon the day will come when everyone will have free wifi. Soon.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)

Cheap, not free. I've tried looking for other networks around here but they're all closed. No other places offer free wifi, that I've been able to find.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)

Haha, what's in the survival kit?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

WTF on getting one in the first place?! That's crazy! I've never heard of a workplace issuing that sort of thing!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:05 (twenty years ago)

1 4oz water pouch
1 12hr green light stick
2 particle masks
1 emergency blanket
1 Safety Goggle
1 pair of work cuff gloves
1 whistle with lanyard

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

first bathroom security and now terrorism survival kits? do my employers just not care about my safety at ALL?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

I don't know! I'm going to keep the garden gloves on at all times, just to be safer.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:09 (twenty years ago)

Wow, Jeff. You have the makings for quite the rave there.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)

what? no tweezers? how are you going to get those shards out?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:13 (twenty years ago)

honestly, i'm more concerned about the 4oz of water than the terrorists. when is 1/2 cup enough? jeff: you must buy a gallon jug!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)

Haha, sarah!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

You guys seem to be forgetting something.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

so when they gave it to you, was it sheepish or in earnest?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

http://www.mindspring.com/~policepoems/graphics/Eagle_tear_medium.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

Do they expect you to keep that at your desk? So that in case of a terror attack, you can strap on your Safety Goggles and keep on supporting their tech?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

hahahahahahahaha!!!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

NEVER FORGET!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

these colors don't run

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)

hey guys - sorry to change the topic, but is anyone going to see s. stevens at the metro?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

gotta love the crying eagle.

that might make a good cereal for patriotic children . . .

Sugar Frosted Eagle's Tears!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

amanda, i would totally go, but i'm gonna be in NYC that weekend.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

gotta love the crying eagle.

my google image search was "eagle tear."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

I am of two minds about that show.

Mind #1: I LOVE HIM AND WANT TO SEE HIM OMG!!!!
Mind #2: The last time I went to see a band at the Metro (Yo La Tengo), I spent the evening in a state of infuriation because it was crowded as hell and people were talking talking talking talking and I couldn't appreciate the lovely quiet parts of the music. Since Sufjan Stevens (that is who you're talking about, right?) is a quiet guy, I just have no faith that the concergoers will cram a sock in it enough for me to actually enjoy the music.

I wish he were playing at some sort of a theater instead of a club.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:22 (twenty years ago)

jenny, i'm with you. i kinda don't like seeing shows at the metro. especially since i gravitate toward the quiet songwriter folk. on the other hand, i'm so out of the loop, i didn't even realize he was playing.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:24 (twenty years ago)

I don't know why, but I have a feeling that Sufjan will be different.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

p.s. to john, doing a search on "eagle tear" is fucking excellent. you're brilliant. you've earned your keep.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

man, i love animals crying soooo much

i just googled 'animal tears' and im not getting anything good

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

yeah - i was a little worried about jerks at the metro too.

think about it...they just added a second show. i asked my friend laura if she wants to go and if she does, i can buy tickets for one/more of you and we can go together. we can cry together. ha.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)

funny. "dog tear" & "cat tear" turn up a small handful of images (none interesting). but try "gopher," "rat" and "sloth" and you get nothing!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

when is the show & how much are tickets?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

"hamster tear" = nothing. i forgot i tried that one too.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:34 (twenty years ago)

dragon tear, however, is golden.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

sat. sept. 17 -- (friday sold out) $16

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)

Based on a few songs I heard off the new album while perusing cds in a cd store, Surfin' Stevens can eat my ass.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

But I got the new Gang Gang Dance and I like it a lot.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:39 (twenty years ago)

Never heard the dude.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

Based on a few songs I heard off the new album while perusing cds in a cd store, Surfin' Stevens can eat my ass.

It's a really lovely album.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)

A coworker's husband just brought in a puppy to surprise her. It's SO CUTE! OMG! It fits in his hand!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

Sufjan Stevens might kick your ass.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

Nick's ass, not Sarah's ass.

OMGTINYPUPPIES!!!!!!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

I'd like to see his Conor Oberst-wannabe ass try it.

Really I don't like Sufjan Stevens because he made jaymc cry, twice.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

Besides, isn't he a Christian? I could smack him and he'd have to turn the other cheek. Sucker.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

Like, a new puppy that they're going to own for the next fifteen or so years?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

i don't think surprise puppies are a very good idea. they wind up at the shelter. not all the time. but sometimes.

as for sufjan, i'm not even a superfan or anything, i just would like to see what they do with all of the orchestration and background vocals in a live setting. i think it would be really moving. and pretty. and pardon me for saying this, but someone has to: he's extremely easy on the eyes. there. i said it. he seems smart in interviews. and unobtrusively christian.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

The puppy wasn't a COMPLETE surprise because they had talked about getting one. Anywho, it's a puggle.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)

he's extremely easy on the eyes

You are not wrong about this.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:08 (twenty years ago)

HE IS SAVING HIMSELF FOR MARRIAGE.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

UNOBTRUSIVELY

LIKE A PUGGLE

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

http://www.cucamonga.be/afbeeldingen/SufjanStevens0404.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:10 (twenty years ago)

oh man. a puggle. did you get to touch it?

also: jenny, kelsey -- are you sure you don't wanna go? laura said she would go so i think i'll get the tickets. i can get some for you too...sept. 17. a saturday.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)

i think i'm going to think about it . . . so don't worry about getting me tickets. i'm such a pansy about going to shows these days.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:14 (twenty years ago)

when are you getting the tickets?

mostly i think i just wanna check my calendar at home to make sure nothing conflicts.

also: i'm still a pansy about going to shows. and should i go, i'll probably wear dorky ear plugs the whole time.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:16 (twenty years ago)

man, thinking about how i'm a pansy made me want to make an entire list of all my faults. i think i'm going kooky today.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:17 (twenty years ago)

i'll wait til tomorrow to buy the tickets - give you ladies (and dan) a chance to decide if you want to go. if tickets are sold out tomorrow, none of us were meant to go and we'll have a sufjan stevens listening/crying party on our own time with respectful silence during the quiet parts. if there are still tickets, we'll go. mmk?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

Yes, of COURSE I touched the puggle.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

http://www.cucamonga.be/afbeeldingen/SufjanStevens0404.jpg
http://www.practicalpuppies.com/Puggle%203-5-05.jpg

NOT ENTIRELY DISSIMILAR

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

i don't know what this is, but it came up under a search for "puggle"

http://www.nickelodeon.com.au/newbighelp/buddies/images/puggle.gif

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:37 (twenty years ago)

Jordan = finally, someone acknowledges Baby Animal Face! SS has it, big time. It's the quality of looking like a baby animal, but not being one. Usually characterized by even, symmetrical features and a distinctive mouth/snout area.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

I think it's a baby platypus.?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

Yes, of COURSE I touched the puggle.

Speaking of bad surprises though, one of my mom's students (ie: a COLLEGE student) gave her a surprise cat a year or so ago - we're talking a full grown adult cat. She saw it in a shelter and thought, "Aw, I should get this and give it to Dr. J." My mom already had 3 cats at the time in her apartment and was furious, but ended up keeping her anyway. She didn't even know the student that well!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

Haha, Sufjan Stevens has a SNOUT!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

re: that baby animal in the photo: it's round and fat and ADORABLE, i can tell you that much.

did anyone else have that national geographic wildlife treasury card set? i have mine still. i used to LOVE that little green box.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:44 (twenty years ago)

There have been serious studies about theories of cuteness, and I think they found that "cuteness" is related to how much someone or something looks like a baby: large eyes, large head size in proportion to body size, etc.

That does look like a duckbill platypus.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

Kelsey, that's a baby echidna (spiny anteater, I think, found in Oz). Baby echidnas are called puggles for some reason that I do not know.

I take it "puggle" may also indicate some cracked out, recently-engineered dog breed a la cockapoo?

― Laurel, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:55 (twenty years ago)

Pug + beagle = puggle.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:56 (twenty years ago)

Nick, that's from that Stephen Jay Gould essay about Mickey Mouse, right?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, probably. Anything vaguely smart-sounding I say probably came from Stephen Jay Gould.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

Someone please do a 'puggle' entry for the dictionary blog.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:01 (twenty years ago)

it is from oz! laurel is right!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:03 (twenty years ago)

I only know this because one of the NYC crue married an Aussie, and while he was staying here he hosted a guest round at pub quiz and did all Qs re Oz, of which "puggle" was one answer. Needless to say, we won that round. [buffs nails on lapel]

― Laurel, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

I've read that cuteness theory, too.

Sufjan Stevens is pretty fine, mmmhmm.

Puggles are precious but from what I've read, they tend to embody the most annoying traits of both pugs and beagles - hyperactivity, snorting AND baying. Nice.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

Dogs are for suckers.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:11 (twenty years ago)

Hi. Jenny we saw yo la tengo at the vic, not the metro.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)

Then I must be a Hoover because I LOVE DOGS!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

me too!!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha.

This isn't the puggle that was in our office - that one was MUCH tinier! - but here's one just to give you an idea:
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/images11/Puggle%20GusStand.JPG

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)

don't you love how dogs don't really have shoulders?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:31 (twenty years ago)

i guess cats don't either. i like how animals have such narrow shoulders.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

omg that dog is so cute.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DOGS AND CATS:

When you a grab a dog and pick it up, it remains dog-shaped, only in the air.

When you pick up a cat, it goes all bendy.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)

You can drop a cat and everything will be ok but you can't drop a dog.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)

And you can't tune a fish.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

this guy is a little sharp!

http://steveadamsomaha.tripod.com/FremontCatFish/C_Pictures/Tune-A-Fish.jpg

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

I drop my cat all the time. Hell, I shove her right off of the edge of things that I don't want her on. She doesn't always get the idea, though.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)

What do you call a fish with two knees?

Two-knee fish!

I love cats and dogs. And apparently, I am easily confused w/r/t Chicago music venues. I'm still skeptical of the noise level, but not quite as skeptical as I was.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

Puggles are precious but from what I've read, they tend to embody the most annoying traits of both pugs and beagles - hyperactivity, snorting AND baying. Nice.

I've read precisely the opposite! That the x-breeding corrects the breathing problems normally associated with pugs, and keep the beagle's normal howling to a minimum.

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

you're the last person i'd expect to weigh in on this. i'd never even heard of puggles before today.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

wow, something weird just happened

i said to a co-worker that his bottles of olives were down in the photostudio, and asked him if he wanted me to bring them back next time i went there--he said "there are two things--first thing, yes, please bring them back--the other, you have the most beautiful eyes" and then he spent about 2 minutes spouting crap about my gorgeous eyes

and of course i turned bright red, and now he probably thinks i love him

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

nice! he's probably more in love with you than the other way around, so it's probably okay.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

xpost, to john:
well, i love beagles of any sort....puggles included. i even have a beagle calendar, and a small lifelike miniature beagle toy made out of goat hair.

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 21:17 (twenty years ago)

that doesn't mean you love beagles! that could indicate that you hate them!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

i think i've become a cat person

because that dog doesn't look THAT cute to me

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

Or that she hates goats...

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 21:39 (twenty years ago)

I've read precisely the opposite! That the x-breeding corrects the breathing problems normally associated with pugs, and keep the beagle's normal howling to a minimum.

Because puggles are close to the cutest puppies I have ever seen, and I want this to be true, I chose to believe you. Three cheers for puggles!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 01:45 (twenty years ago)

BTW Unauthorized use of graphic

― I'm Hi, Jared Fogle (ex machina), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 01:51 (twenty years ago)

Hmmm... I wonder if I'm the one who posted that pic. If it's the kitten with its paws in the air pic I'm thinking of, well, that ones all over the information superhighway, so I didn't think twice about posting it. Lord have mercy!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)

Well, a series of thorough beatings administered by one "Sheila Myers" is just what I had in mind for this Wednesday morning!

Hello Chicago!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)

yeah, that was it, Sarah, it was totally silly. I figured if she went to the trouble of finding the moderator forum and all that, I might as well.

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

Haha, ILX gets heat for a kitten picture and everyone in the room slowly turns around and rolls their eyes at Chicago.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

I'll try to be more careful in the future. Do you think I could do hard time for something like that?

What are you in for?
I murdered an entire family in their sleep. And you?
I posted some pix of kittens on the internet. I don't give a F! about unauthorized graphic use. Take that, po-po's!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

Speaking of hostility, D and I saw Grizzly Man last night. I would like to talk about it, but I don't know who has seen it and who hasn't. I thought the pace at which revelatory information was given to us about TT was outta-this-world good.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)

Oh shit, I didn't realize that Grizzly Man is a Herzog joint.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

I haven't seen it!

Nick bought Undeclared last night, so we started watching it (again). I'm looking forward to the 40-year-old virgin movie.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)

I started a thread, then realised that it had already started a couple of days ago. But no one was really talking about the movie. I guess that's what happens. As always, Jenny had good comments. I wish people had followed her lead and talked about the movie.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)

I cut my finger while dicing a red pepper last night and it's still kinda bleeding. Is that bad?

(the dinner was really good though, the lamb chops were off the hook)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

Still bleeding? Eek -- do you have a bandage on it?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I've gone through a few band-aids. It's not like it's running down my arm, but I can see red through the band-aid in the middle, and then it seems to start bleeding again when I change bandages.

Uh, sorry for being gross before noon!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)

Has anyone else noticed that our "new answers" number is going down...and down...and down? Yesterday afternoon we were at 838. I know because I like that number (Symmetry! 3 is visually like 1/2 of 8!). Now we're at 815.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)

Crazy!

Jordan, something like that's happened to me before. You should try putting neosporin on it next time to change the bandaid.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, sometimes it does that. I think it counts "new answers" from a specific starting point, so all that means is that we didn't post as much yesterday as we used to.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)

Do you know what I mean? It's like, say the time period is "last seven days": there were 838 messages between 8/10-8/16, but only 815 messages between 8/11-8/17, because there were fewer messages on 8/17 than on 8/10. The number of "total answers" on the thread should stay the same (1004, with this one.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)

Let's not let it happen again!

Robotsinlove, maybe YOU know what kind of dog this is - I keep seeing it around my neighborhood. They look like tiny beagles, but it's not just because they're puppies. Is there such a thing as miniature beagles?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

i see. does that mean we should start a new one? since we reached 1000?

are there any places to get a good (i mean GOOD) slice of pizza around this part of the loop? i'm totally craving pizza.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:26 (twenty years ago)

You should try putting neosporin on it next time to change the bandaid.

I did! I'm not that worried, actually, it's just annoying.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

http://www.saralee.com/saralee-assets/images/products/medium/10ozplainminibagels.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)

Um, no. But pizza sounds gooooooooood. Those aren't pizzas, jaymc!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)

amanda, i just wrote a really rambling post on grizzly man. this is really a "sit down for beer & chat" kinda movie.

and here's where i'd ask you out, except my brother is coming into town today!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, the only place I've gotten pizza around here is Sbarro. It's not bad, but there's a reason I only have it once a month, if that.

Also: I'm not sure what you mean about people "not talking about the movie" on the Grizzly Man thread. Several people obviously were, and others who hadn't seen it yet were anticipating it, talking about Herzog in general, etc. It's not like the thread took this massive derailment about oral-sex techniques or anything. I guess I only mention this because you're relatively new to the board, and that thread doesn't look that unusual for an ILE film thread to me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)

Those aren't pizzas, jaymc

No, I know, but you asked about miniature beagles!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:34 (twenty years ago)

I would pay $500 dollars to be able to go down the hall, see Grizzly Man, then go out for pizza and beer instead of working today.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)

I'm sort of surprised that everyone has all gone and seen Grizzly Man already. I mean, I guess I'm not surprised that Jeff and Jenny have gone, since they're big Herzog fans. Yeah, I dunno. It's just kind of funny sometimes the movies that bring Chicago ILX together. Playtime, wtf?

Also see, I thought I'd try to catch up with my filmgoing last weekend and see two new films, but I obviously picked the wrong ones for discussion purposes later.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

yeah -- it is a sit-down-and-chat-afterwards sort of movie. we'll have a chance to talk about it sometime. i guess what i meant about not talking about the movie is that there was a lot of talk about "i love herzog" and there weren't a lot of questions being asked. i guess that's typical and i just wasn't aware of it. i haven't been around long. i ask a lot of questions and i get embarrassed because it makes me feel teacherly.

has anyone made a decision about the sufjan tickets? laura and i are in, dan is out and i'm hoping kelsey and jenny are in. lemme know.

piiiiiiiiiiiiizzzzzzza. i want pizza so bad. there's that place on van buren that looks like a checkered-tablecloth type place. also, reggie's over here near my building. i'll try it and report back, unless you'd care to join me.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)

ps - if anyone else is in (for sufjan) let me know.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

Sarah, that kitten picture moron needs a lesson in IP and copyright law. And a kick in the fucking ass.

I'm goign to go TELL HER THAT RIGHT NOW.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

I would join you for lunch, A, but I'm meeting my friend Eric (Zi3g3nh4g3n) for lunch at My Thai, I think, despite the fact that I had THE WORST pad kee mao ever there.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)

it was actually recommened to me last night to not go. someone i know saw him a few years ago & his stage presence left something to be desired.
also: i have $50 to my name right now. i'm feeling SO BROKE. i should've been paying more attention to sarah & her budget. i need all of that in my life now.

john: i like that place!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:47 (twenty years ago)

Is that the place in the DePaul Center? Because I kind of like it, too.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

Okay, maybe I just went on a TERRIBLE day, because my pad kee mao was gross and greasy and not fresh-tasting at all and full of little egg-snots (sorry, pad kee mao isn't supposed to have eggs in it). I'm not someone to waste food very often, but I ate like five bites of that and then threw it in the trash and went to Sbarro instead.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)

PIIIIIIZZZZZZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa.

Oh, I get it, jaymc. Ah-haaa. (*light bulb*)

kelsey, Don't model your budget after mine! Actually, you could, but NEVer go to the emergency room. I am apparently getting another bill from a visit there back in March, as I complained about on my blog. My budget doesn't have room for $500+ hospital visits.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)

(xpost) I mean, I was so excited to be able to eat Thai food for lunch every day, since it's a half-block from my office. But I've only been there that once.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:55 (twenty years ago)

xpost(and that was after insurance)

GRIPE GRIPITY GRIPE GRIPE

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

Argh, that sucks, Sarah. I thought about going to the ED to get stitches for my thumb last night (something I've never done before), but didn't want to pay $$$ for something that's not probably not a big deal.

(Knowing about how hospital billing works for my job has made me want to never go to the hospital again)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)

Half of all personal bankruptcies in the US are due to medical bills.

Resource in Chicago: Hospital Accounability Project

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

Say hi to Ziegenh@gen.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

I'm so hungry for pizza that i feel like a crazy person.

Jaymc - at My Thai you should consider the tofu panang curry. Laura (aka "my friend Laura") had it there and I tasted it and it was good.

I get really depressed when I think about medical bills. And automo-bills.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

I was already thinking about getting a tofu curry of some sort! I don't usu. get panang, but maybe I will try it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)

Man oh man. 40 minutes until lunchtime! oh no!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

Tofu panang curry rocks. This morning has completely gotten away from me. I am talking about the movie in the Grizzly Man thread. I am hungry even though I ate a bagel like an hour ago.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

there are two my thais, right? maybe the one across from the art institute is bad (although i've had some limited success there). in the loop, for pizza, under 55 is not a bad option.

sarah, i have read a bit about "pocket" beagles, but apparently they are no longer bred. but i sure do like the idea of carrying around a beagle in my pocket.

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)

GRIZZZZZZZZZZZZZZLy, jenny, i'd go see this again with Jesse, if you want.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

It's the DePaul My Thai that I have gone to. And will be going to, again.

Oh yeah, Under 55. Totally. Amanda, you know where that is?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)

My lunch today is a sandwich of my own invention: 7-grain bread, Uncle Earl's hummus (thanks to ChILXor recommendation), lettuce, carrots, and pepperjack cheese. I hope it will be delicious.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)

No -- where's Under 55? They sell slices? I'm HUNGRY but not able to eat an entire pizza.

And carrots on a sandwich? Interesting. I love TJ's garlic hummus. Nice consistency. Not goopy or gloppy.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)

Grated carrots are really good on peanut butter sandwiches, too. But I'm kind of weird like that.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

Under 55 is in the basement of 55 E. Monroe. It's a whole food-court deal. They don't serve slices, I don't think, but they sell baby individual pizzas, so you get like four tiny slices.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)

and it's good, huh. hmmmm, well. i'll think about it. i look forward to pizza and reading outside today.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 16:01 (twenty years ago)

Mmmm, tiny slices.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Well, you know, it's pizza.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

Hey Chicago! Did you know that if you have to GO really badly, businesses have to give you access to employee-only bathrooms? The law to help people with IBS, but you don't have to prove there's anything medical wrong with you, just look kind of gray and sweaty like you're about to poop yourself.

I'm rather comforted by this, I have to say.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Hey, I'm at 50 W. Monroe, where can I get lunch?

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

yay for bathroom laws! but how fiercely can i tell someone that they're going to get fined $100 if they don't let me pee right now?
the trick that has always worked for me is telling people that either that i'm on my period or "think i just started" my period. they're usually too embarassed or understanding to say no.

sidenote: in 2nd grade, my teacher wouldn't let me get up & use the bathroom until the "designated time." my mom wrote her a note & after that, the teacher told me i didn't even have to ask permission. i could just "get up & go." i think my mom told her i had bowel issues or something.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)

My will is weak.

I went in search of a pizza lunch, and made a pleasant discovery: the Rosati's in the neighborhood may deliver square-cut pizzas with too much cheese and salt, but during lunch they make big, near-perfect NY slices!

They are fools, I would totally order that shit if they made it at night.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 16:52 (twenty years ago)

I had a teacher in elementary school who made us raise our hands when we had to GO - 1 for number 1, 2 for number 2, 3 for something far worse than number 2. I hated it so much, because I didn't want anyone checking up on me, but I was too embarassed to ever hold up 2 or 3.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

That's awful.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)

Oh dear, Sarah. That's cruel.

I had a large, crispy, deeeelicious NY-style slice at this place near my building called, charmingly, Pizza. There's just a sign out front that says "Pizza."

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:01 (twenty years ago)

How in the hell do you hold up three hands anyway?

― dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

im back on my diet...

a small salad and a tiny portion of butternut squash soup for lunch

borrrr--ring. i want pizza, goddamnit!

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)

I had a salad, pita, hummus, and carrots. But then my coworkers ordered take out, so they gave me a blondie they had leftover.

ha ha, dan m.

I had a different teacher who had everyone raise their hands whose parents were divorced, and yet another one who had kids raise their hands who were spanked at home. That had nothing to do with being able to go to the bathroom though.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

For some reason, I remember a lot about hand raising from those years, but not much about other things - like geography.

We have one of those small Annie's pizzas at home... or is it linda mccartney? I can't remember. Anyway, yum.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

In my 9th grade civics class my teacher asked for every that believed in god to raise their hands...

Then she got decapitated the next year in a car accident. I don't think the incidents are related.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

It's a Linda McCartney pizza.

It sure is nice outside.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:24 (twenty years ago)

Good for you, Mandee.

STAND STRONG AGAINST DELICIOUS PIZZA

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)

The box for my slice read "DELICIOUS PIZZA"

I laughed to myself quietly and said, "Oh box, how right you are!"

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

haha, something funny happened last night

i was trying to AIM kenan, and he wasn't responding, so I said, outloud "come awwwwn, kenan!"

my sister asked who he was on ilx, and I said, "He posts as Paunchy Stratego" -- and she said, "OH, I always thought it was PONCHO STRANGE-O"

WHICH IS FUNNY because I realized I think of jaymc's handle said as "Jamie C." instead of "Jay M.C."

and..um, yeah, thats my dumb anecdote

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

Googling for "delicious pizza" brings up not only pictures of delicious pizza, but this (presumably from a Jewish Chuck E. Cheese's):

http://www.pizzablast.biz/images/star.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Amanda, where is PIZZA?

I had the red curry at My Thai, and it was very good, indeed. This makes me happy because it gives me another lunch option now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)

The box for my slice read "DELICIOUS PIZZA"
I laughed to myself quietly and said, "Oh box, how right you are!"
Amanada, you are funny funny funny.

Kenan hasn't been around here much lately. When is his issue supposed to be done? I forgot.

Which reminds me, we have a lot of Stella right now, so if someone wants to come over and drink one before my family shows up next week, that would be just fine.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)

I was excited when the new MONA LISA PIZZA ("Where every slice is a work of art.") opened down the street because before that for pizza I would have to walk to DELICIOUS, and they always seemed to be out of cheese pizza, meaning I'd have to wait like 15 minutes until they got a new one out of the oven, which is 1/3 of my lunch time. So yay for MONA LISA PIZZA, though now I'm "eating healthy." I am craving some trail mix.

Yes, please come help us dispose of Stella, especially since I'm not a big fan of Stella. Hey, we should have an "UNDECLARED" party. Or "FREAKS AND GEEKS." Whatever.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:50 (twenty years ago)

I want to see Freaks and Geeks sometime. What is Undeclared? It sounds familiar. Oh wait, it's coming back: like Freaks and Geeks but at college? And it only ran a few episodes?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

It actually only has one less episode than F&G! But yeah, a lot of the same people, set in modern times, more sitcommy, runs a half-hour instead of an hour.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)

xpost It ran 17 episodes! (F&G ran 18)

I vote for Undeclared since I've seen the Freaks & Geeks episodes a lot and we just got Undeclared yesterday.

I love Stella, by the way, but if I drink all the ones in our fridge I will be:
1- drunk all the time and
2- a fatty mcfatfat

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

PIZZA is on Van Buren, near Wells around the corner from Tokyo Lunchbox, across the street from my building.

I haven't seen those shows either. Although I am a fan of Degrassi, both new and old generations. I didn't think I would like the new, but surprise! I do.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)

I think I would watch TV more if I lived with someone.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

Do you think watching tv with someone else makes it slightly less wrong because you're sort of being social?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

That's odd. I would watch TV more if I didn't live with someone.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:07 (twenty years ago)

I would totally have cable.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

I just know that right now, I spend the majority of my time at home online. Whereas if I lived with someone, we'd want to do things we could enjoy together, like watch TV. I don't think watching TV is wrong (it's probably better than downloading porn), it's just not something I ever think of doing.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:12 (twenty years ago)

Also, no cable, lousy reception, tiny screen, blah blah blah.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)

my sister watches Degrassi all the time, and I hate it.. I haven't really seen it, I just hate hearing those kids talk about being broomheads

Jaymc I'm the same way, if I lived alone I'd never watch TV

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:16 (twenty years ago)

I don't know what I would do, because I've never lived alone.

I rarely go online at home, but that's more due to the fact that I spend my entire work day online anyway. When I get home, I don't want to look at the computer.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:23 (twenty years ago)

Yes, I know, it's a sickness.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)

When I lived alone, I didn't have internet access, and even if I did, it was sort of a one-way interaction, like TV. So I read, watched movies and talked on the phone. A lot. I used to have outrageous long distance bills, like almost $100 every single month.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)

a couple years ago I lived w/ no internet and no television and I was constantly bored--on my drive home from work I'd seriously fret about what i was going to do all night

but I had more of a social life, I guess

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

i was going to write something & i forgot what it was.

i'm eating trail mix.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)

does anyone else have weird blood sugars? yesterday, i ate a salad for lunch . . . with tofu on it & two hours later, I was STARVING. So I ate a snickers b/c I ran out of healthy snacks. today, i ate a sandwich (dr. so&so pure veggie things from trader joe's) with lettuce & cheese on it & a tiny slice of leftover frozen pizza. but i just know that in an hour, i'm going to be crazy for proteins. luckily, i bought trail mix (which i didn't exactly wait to eat) & some roasted soy nuts. but this makes me feel like i'm an overeating machine & that might explain the chubb factor. oh well. i should just graduate from the "don't worry so much school" instead of hanging out in the hallways for kicks.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

I don't listen to what my body thinks it wants anymore. My body is dumb and is all like "NEED CHEESE. NEED CANDY. NEED SODA. NEED BEER." and I'm all like "Shut up, fatty."

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

Sounds familiar, when I'm in "eating healthy" mode (i.e., salads for lunch) I become starving in the mid-morning and mid-afternoon. I usually go for trail mix too, but one of my co-workers gave me this box of "wheat-free" snack bars that she can't eat because they have gluten, and they're actually pretty good.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

What I ate today, by Nick:
Breakfast: half-cup of cappucino, made with 2% milk
Midmorning: plum
lunch: aforementioned sandwich, La Croix sparkling water
Afternoon: pretzels
Being healthy is dumb but kind of fun.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)

I had a salad for lunch today, and it made my stomach feel funny. I know exactly why. It's gotten way too used to massive amounts of fat and carbs. If it ain't pizza, my body almost wants to reject it. The only cure, I feel, is more salad.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

i think i feel compelled to eat something in the afternoon since i ride my bike home. when i don't, i'm crazy by the time i get home. i eat everything in sight, i'm moody & i'm "crashing."

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

hi kenan!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)

KENAN WE NEED TO HANG OUT SOON, BUT NOT TONIGHT (BAND PRACTICE).

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

HEY. Do you guys want to come over sometime this weekend to hang out? Hey, Nick. Do you want to have people over?
HEY, when am I having a birthday party?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

I ate:

Breakfast - large iced coffee, sesame seed bagel + cream cheese

Snack - Strawburry snack burr

Lunch - slice of pepperoni pizza!

Dinner - ??? If I (fingers crossed) actually get to start mixing tonight, I'm sure I'm going to have to grab some crap dinner like Taco Bell or more pizza.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

Is anyone coming to the Canasta show on Saturday?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

what i ate today, by kelsey:

breakfast: raspberry yogurt w/ granola sprinkled in. green tea.
lunch: the aforementioned sandwich & pizza combo.
midafternoon: trail mix.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

Breakfast: Cereal w/soy milk. A sip of grapefruit juice to wash down my vitamin.

Mid-morning snack: Banana.

Lunch: Red curry w/tofu.

If I get hungry later, there's some baby carrots in the fridge. That's my usual mid-afternoon snack.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 18:59 (twenty years ago)

That all sounds very healthy, but yesterday I had Potbelly's for lunch and pizza for dinner.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:00 (twenty years ago)

I think jaymc wins at eating.

xpost, I retract that.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

im starving already, and its only 2pm

breakfast: grapenuts w/ peaches and vanilla soymilk + coffee with 2 tbsp of half & half

lunch: small salad w/ olive oil and balasmic vinegar + one cup of butternut squash soup

snack: peach yogurt

dinner: grilled chicken and asparagus

that is 1,200 CALORIES DESCRIBED ABOVE - IT FEELS LIKE 60

― Homosexual II (Homosexual II), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:04 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, retract away, Jordan. I'm the guy who buys vegetables that then die in my refrigerator because I don't use them fast enough. (Again, one of the pitfalls of living alone: my brother used to have dinner ready for me at least once or twice a week when he was in school!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:05 (twenty years ago)

We might be coming to the Canasta show, haven't decided 100% for sure yet.

I wish people could come hang out on a Sunday afternoon, because Sundays are kind of depressing without something planned to do, but that's when we usually have band practice. Maybe we could practice early in the afternoon, like 1-ish, and people could come over at like 3 or 4. Theoretically, of course.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:06 (twenty years ago)

What I ate today, by Sarah Johnson:

breakfast: low fat cinnamon raisin granola with lowfat vanilla yogurt and a small handful of rasberries thrown in the mix WITH half-cup
cappucino Nick made

midmorning snack: plum WITH water

lunch: small baby romaine salad with balsamic vinagrette, carrots & pita and hummus WITH Water

And then all hell broke loose because a coworker gave me a brownie/blondie.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)

I promise I'll stop talking about what I ate today. Chicago, come back!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)

So long as you retract that bit about hell breaking loose. Hell did not break loose because you ate a brownie.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

I'm not surly -- I just can't bear any more weight talk today. It's been a weird day.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)

what i've had to eat today:
nothing.
oh, what's that you say, it's 1:30 (Pacific) already?
off to make something now then...
and then perhaps off to go get a beet juice.

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

We should stop talking about food.

Would people want to come hang out at our place on Sunday late afternoon/early evening?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)

I've been away from ILX for a while. Work has been busy busy busy. For those who are interested:

My sister's coming to town this Friday night. Any suggestions for things to do? That is, beyond the usual bars, etc... Only one evening means we're kind of limited.

My roomate and I got a cat. It's his cat, which means he gets to pay for its associated medical needs and food and such, and I get to pet it and play with it. Good deal.

Today, I ate yogurt and an oatmeal bar for breakfast, a turkey/tomato/onion/lettuce/mayo/mustard/onion roll sandwich and a piece of cheese for lunch, and a couple of cinnamon breath mints. I also drank several glasses of water.

I'd like to see Canasta but I think I might be going to see Pelican, although I don't really know why.

Um, that's all I've got. xpost - sorry for still talking about food.

― dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:39 (twenty years ago)

I thought that was all hypothetical, Nick! OH NO! All hell is breaking loose once again!

I was just kidding, Amanda.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:41 (twenty years ago)

dan m, you should take her to dinner somewhere with good people watching where you can sit outside.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:42 (twenty years ago)

I know -- I know you were kidding. Today is the day where nothing NOTHING I say is right and it has caused me all sorts of trouble. I won't bore you with the details. I do apologize for sounding so severe.

I should duck out before I screw up something else.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:43 (twenty years ago)

That part has been decided already. We're going to my landlord's restaurant, Buona Terra. Where you can sit outside, but there's really not a lot of interesting stuff/people around that intersection.
Xpost

― dan m (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)

I just remembered that we are being invaded this weekend...it's the Air and Water Show!

― The Popish Plot (dymaxia), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:52 (twenty years ago)

NO!!!!!!!! Not the AIRSHOW. Shit.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

Okay, I found out that I won't be able to go mix until 11 pm (!) and Maddie's working late, so I'm going to go see a movie by myself after work. However, Grizzly Man hasn't opened yet. My options at the theater down the hall are:

Me and You and Everyone We Know

Crash (my pick, but I should wait and see it with Maddie)

Ladies in Lavender

Happy Endings

What should I see?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)

xpost Yeah, it's scary for about a minute. Then it's annoying.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)

Why do people get so aggrieved by the Air and Water Show? It's like, there's a loud noise a couple times during the day. So?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

I just don't like the crowds. That's why I moved to a big city. ha ha

Amanda, don't worry about it! Amanda, have you noticed I type your name alot?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

Where are there crowds?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:05 (twenty years ago)

I mean, it's all downtown, right? How is it any different from any other tourist invasion like the Taste of Chicago or whatever?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)

I don't know. I've only encountered them once. I think Nick was trying to drive somewhere and they got in our way.

DASLKFJLKASJLKSJDFKLSJAKFJDSKAjksldj;fkl;asjkl;djfkl;djsakl;fjdskal;jfdk;sa I'm spaced out.

It's not, jaymc.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, Sarah. I'm sorry. I like to type your name too. Sarah. Sarah. Sarah.

I guess I really don't like loud noises. Like fireworks. Explosions. Airplanes. People.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

I'm love fun things about love and fun. Things.

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:17 (twenty years ago)

I guess I hear a loud plane or two, but that's it. Maybe if I lived closer to downtown, it would be more annoying?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:22 (twenty years ago)

I am such a fatty mcfattster right now. I tried to be good and have a turkey burger on pita from home, but I ruined it with two molassas cookies and a coke from the place downstairs. What kills me is being right on campus for work.
Even though it's not on the list, go see March of the Penguins. I totally cried my eyes out.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:23 (twenty years ago)

I'd say more, but I have to go fact-check biographies of Tyra Banks and Jerry Bruckheimer right now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:24 (twenty years ago)

TYRA!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:28 (twenty years ago)

I'm serious.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)

I just remembered that TV movie Tyra was in where she was a real-life Barbie doll, like a second rate Mannequin . And it turns out that the little girl in the movie was none other than Linds@y Lohan.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

john, can i get a copy of the bio for Top M0del?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

what do you mean? it is just a one-page article.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

I went to the doctor today and I said MY KNEES HURT AND I AM FAT AND I EXERCISE A LOT AND WEIGHT WATCHERS MAKES ME CRY BECAUSE 18 POINTS IS NOT ENOUGH FOOD HELP and she gave me... pills. That could cause heart attacks! But she gave me an EKG first so at least if I die of a heart attack she's done enough that I can't sue her for malpractice.

I'm going to give the fatty pills a week to work then start Weight Watchers again and as god as my witness, I will once again be able to fit into the clothes I moved to Chicago with by my birthday!

Funny that it's been a food/weight issue all around today. We are joined at the stomach by a karmic thread.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

Having a job is the best diet for me. I would snack all day at home, but I just forget about eating here. I already feel lighter!!!

― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)

pulla, When's your b-day?

jaymc, I TOTALLY forgot that's the badresa birthday bash! Nick and I are both there.

ALSO, who wants to come to our apartment Sunday afternoon? I will have family guests the two weekends after that, so we need to get some hanging out in.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 18 August 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)

My birthday is 11/22.

I would LOVE to hang out on Sunday. I don't know if I'll be able to, though. If I can get this dumb dumb dumb research assignment done, and get my reading done for classes, then yes, I really want to come over.

Those are big IFs, but I'm kind of cooking right along on the paper now so that's a good sign.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 August 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

Get to work, then! Sunday afternoon you will be free, free as a bird.

I just told TITTWIS, but I went to Lush for the first time last night and bought this soap. I love it! Also, I discovered I'd never been to that section of Armitage with all the fancy pants shops. It was yet another incident which made me realize how much of Chicago I have left to explore.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 18 August 2005 12:37 (twenty years ago)

Oh my god. I was up until 4:30 a.m. mixing last night/this morning, and then I was woken up at 6:30 by a thunderstorm and a possessed cat. Today's going to be fun.

Hi Chicago!

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 August 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)

Hi Jordan. At least you were up late doing something fun, instead of being persecuted for being a witch or mining for coal. Think of it that way.

I'm so tired of thinking and talking about food and diets and exercise. I'm just going to be healthy and stop talking or thinking about it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 18 August 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)

two things: the food theme yesterday extended far beyond ILX, people. there wasn't mass hysteria, but i dealt with hysteria on several non-ILX fronts. i'm very glad it's over.

second, that picture upthread that used to be anna gasteyer has changed! now it's the red eye from today -- why did it choose today, of all days, to change?

jordan, you're going to be slaphappy today. or grumpy.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 August 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)

Those rasberries were really good!

Nick, do people tend to get persecuted for mining for coal? ha ha

Jordan, Hi!

Manda, Hi!

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 18 August 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I regret nothing, the mixes are sounding really good (only 3 tracks per song!). We spent five hours on two songs but now the engineer i.e. my friend Scott has the blueprint for the rest of the tunes.

I'm just going to be healthy and stop talking or thinking about it.

I hear you, Nick. I wish healthy living was ingrained enough where I didn't have to talk/worry about it.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 August 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

I wish we were at the song mixing stage! We haven't even started working on our songs to get ready for recording. I'm looking forward to hearing bits of the new album this weekend, jaymc.

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)

So you like how it's turning out, Jordan?

― Kittens Licking Cakes (coco), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

I think I'm veering toward slaphappy, Amanda. Leaving for work this morning, I kissed Maddie goodbye and said, "Good night, honey" and then tripped over the curb.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

Jordan is Dick Van Dyke. Look out for that ottoman!

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:10 (twenty years ago)

At least you were up late doing something fun, instead of being persecuted for being a witch or mining for coal.

Or writing a paper on punitive damages in products liability suits...

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I was a little worried but now I'm totally excited. The rough mixes that we slapped together a couple of weeks ago used a lot of compression to control levels and were basically piercing and dry with the drums way out front. Now, there's no compression at all, the sousaphone is pushed way up, and the brutal trumpet highs got taken care of with limiting and volume automation. We totally dropped the bass drum mic because there was more bass drum bleeding into the snare mic, it's crazy. I can't believe how warm and full it sounds compared to the unmixed and rough stuff with just EQ and a little reverb added.

/band geek

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

Were they SEXY punitive damages?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)

So I'm reading this book, The Russian Debutate's Handbook. And I just don't quite get it. I know what it's trying to do, but it's just not quite getting there for me. The author picture is fantastic through. And it sort of goes along with all this talk of Grizzley Men,
http://www.seattleweekly.com/graphics/features/0321/gary.jpg
And then I tried to read some comics and I didn't "get" them either (Powers, Forever). Help my BRAYNE is withering away.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)

Haha, explaining Powers might be the one thing that my brain is actually capable of accomplishing today, Jocelyn.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

I've always like that scene at the end of Manhattan where Woody talks into a microphone about what makes life worth living, and makes a little list ("Second movement of the Jupiter Symphony"). I added a new item to my own list on the bus this morning, and it is the first chapter of Sex, Drugs and Cocoa Puffs.

The second chapter is about torturing his Sims to death. God bless this man.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)

akron pride! check this out: http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/living/12268971.htm

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)

maybe he didn't grow UP there, like jarmusch, but he lived there? for a while? we take what we can get.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

xpost - the man-bear love in that photo is too much for my tiny brain to bear this morning.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)

I'm not going to register for the Ohio Beacon article. I won't do it anymore, almost on principal. Please give me a quick abstract of the article.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:34 (twenty years ago)

sorry -- gimme a sec

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

We're getting a new thread soon anyway, so...:

Author returns, finds city now cool

Former Beacon Journal reporter talks with fans about book, pop culture

For about an hour and a half Saturday, writer Chuck Klosterman talked about what he knows best -- pop culture.

Klosterman, a former Beacon Journal feature writer, was at the Akron-Summit County Public Library to talk about his new book, Killing Yourself to Live: 85 Percent of a True Story, but he ended up talking about subjects as varied as death metal, why he likes new country music, and comparing the world in The Simpsons to Akron.

After a brief introduction by Beacon Journal writer David Giffels, Klosterman, clad in a purple T-shirt and blue jeans, talked about his new book and called his relationship with writing ``the only successful relationship I've ever had.''

The basis of Klosterman's third book started with an article he was writing for his current employer, Spin Magazine. Klosterman was to make a cross-country journey to places where rock stars died and was told by his editor to come back with an epic.

What came out of the story was an epic in Klosterman's own life.

During his assignment, the North Dakota native was torn among three women. Then, while traveling to places where musicians died, Klosterman started thinking about his own mortality.

The result ended up being Killing Yourself to Live, a story about Klosterman's life and feelings, with the deaths of rock stars mixed in.

Some might consider the book self-serving, but even Klosterman was quick to agree. ``It is narcissistic,'' Klosterman said. ``But I'm a very narcissistic person.''

For the speaking engagement, about 100 people of various ages showed up to listen and then get books signed.

Two self-described Klosterman groupies, Elizabeth Whitmyer, 37, of Akron and Lisa Sobnosky, 38, of New Franklin, just wanted to get a chance to see their favorite former Beacon Journal staffer. ``We're anxious to get our picture taken with him,'' Sobnosky said. ``But we don't stalk him or anything.''

Jessica Cherok of Green has been stalking Klosterman's writing since she read his second book, Sex, Drugs and Cocoa Puffs. ``I love his writing,'' the 17-year-old Cherok said. ``I'm so excited, I've been looking forward to this all summer.''

In a question-and-answer session, Klosterman was asked if he was surprised that his writing has been used as a college teaching tool. ``It's weird to me that people buy my books,'' Klosterman said. ``It's even weirder to me that people buy my books to educate. When someone says they like my work so much they want to teach with it, it creeps me out.''

Before reading the audience a chapter of his new book, Klosterman told them he was glad to be back in Akron, where he lived from 1998 to 2002. ``I went to the Lime Spider... and Akron is cool now,'' Klosterman said. ``Of course that happens right after I leave.''

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:36 (twenty years ago)

I just read Powers: Sellouts which was great, and now Forever is monkey sex and sub-Conan dialogue and I don't really care because I want to get back to Deena in the hospital.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:42 (twenty years ago)

But you learn that cop-dude is a thousands-of-years-old superhero with chronic amnesia, and possibly a monkey!

It's too bad that Bendis retain his Whedon/Sorkin dialogue tics for the Conan talk.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

Chicago: Hot Streets!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 18 August 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)

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