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― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 07:03 (nineteen years ago)

They're ladies! And they're electric! And ther's a whole LAND of them! The mathematical possibilities are mind boggling.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 07:06 (nineteen years ago)

I just realized that I may have made an entire Chicago thread NSFW. Sorry. Start another one if you must. But you gotta admit... it's a great album cover, and a great title.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 07:11 (nineteen years ago)

And a great fucking album!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 07:11 (nineteen years ago)

The back of my high school letter jacket said "Voodoo Child."

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 07:13 (nineteen years ago)

OMG this album... holy shit you guys. It's like Muddy Waters went into a music store, and Satan was behind the counter, and he said, "I don't need all these guitars. I want to trade all my guitars in for Marshall stacks. I only need one guitar, but here's the thing -- I need it to constantly be in flames." And so it's Muddy Waters, Marshall stacks to the heavens, and constant flames. That's this record.

And no, I'm not high. Shut up.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 07:31 (nineteen years ago)

Would you throw things at me if I said hat Jimi Hendrix is one of the best jazz musicians of all time?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 07:53 (nineteen years ago)

no.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 26 November 2005 07:54 (nineteen years ago)

nick: why do you have cool synths and i don't?

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 26 November 2005 07:54 (nineteen years ago)

It's a really cheap synth! I think it was like $300 or something like that. But now no one will hear my songs because they're on the old thread. :(

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 26 November 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I could just relink them. Here we go:

Solresol: http://s27.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2V355X03OG6ZV01X96U523VRVI

Bird-Eyed Dog: http://s28.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0WHN0EBQH5WWC3B0Y8B0OHX6XM

I think I might go to the show at the Ice Factory tonight; it's Violence Ammunition, who do weird electronic stuff, and some hip hop act.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 26 November 2005 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

Most of the sounds on that synth are pretty lame but you can reprogram them so I just programmed a bunch of sounds that sound like cheezy analog whines because that's the kind of keyboard sound that I like.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 26 November 2005 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

They have this really awesome Juno synth at the Ice Factory that I always want to use on every song because it sounds so plastic and great but so far we've just used it on two songs, and Seth played the part on one because he's a better keyboard player than any of us.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 26 November 2005 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

I would throw things at you, Kenan.

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

I would too, but, reflecting lack of conviction, they would only be foam packing peanuts. Or maybe Nerf balls.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 26 November 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

and Seth played the part on one because he's a better keyboard player than any of us.

That's fun that you get to credit him in the liner notes, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 26 November 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

As someone who has made similar bold, daring, and it's-just-so-crazy-it-might-work sort of claims (including the very same one you make above), Kenan, I would, at the very least, offer you an umbrella. If I had one on me.

― giboyeux (skowly), Saturday, 26 November 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

you're a peach.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 26 November 2005 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

I would throw Tootsie rolls and Dum Dum lollipops, because when you walk, it's a parade.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 26 November 2005 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

Where does this link go when you click it?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 26 November 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Okay nevermind.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 26 November 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Solresol! It's a language and stuff. Does that synth have a really nice portamento, or is someone just going nuts with the pitch-bend wheel? And are these the fruits of the "working quickly" plan?

In the cool-synth sweepstakes I'm surprised more people outside electronic music don't just use a laptop and MIDI controller: assuming you were going to own a laptop anyway, the base cost of that would be way lower than most nice synths. I suppose you'd have to put a little more money in there to get the latency down to absolutely perfect, but still. I've been running my computer output to an amp, micing it up, and re-recording it, and it's like the perfect room-sound hardware synth.

― nabiscothingy, Saturday, 26 November 2005 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

It's just me abusing the pitch-bend wheel because I don't know how to play keyboards properly.

HEY, I got offered a new job! I think I'm going to take it, but help me through the pros and cons here:

PROS
1. It's in the news/media field. I would spend my time writing (not creatively), editing, doing research online, and possibly a little HTML work. I would not have to answer any phones, make any copies, type any letters, etc.
2. The hours are such that it's possible that if I end up going back to school I might be able to keep working there.
3. The boss seems to REALLY want to hire me, and has already made some concessions to intice me (see below), so there's room for me to bargain a little.
4. The work generally seems a lot more interesting and challenging than what I'm doing now.

CONS and EQUIVOCATIONS
1. I would have to be at work at 6:30 AM every day, and it's in Evanston, so I'd be waking up at 5:30 every day at the latest. (On the other hand, I'd be done every day around 2:30, even when I'm up to working full time, and I get more work done in the morning anyways.)
2. It's a deadline-based environment, so it can be fairly hectic, especially first thing in the morning. (But I could probably use the challenge, might make work more interesting instead of totally dull.)
3. There will be some evening and Sunday work involved (but only an hour or two every couple of days, and I can do it from home).
4. This is the big one; the pay/hour situation is really complicated and I'm still trying to figure it out:
a. Because of how they do things, they have to start me out at part-time and at a certain pay rate which is a couple of bucks less per hour than my current pay.
b. But the boss dude outlined a plan for me wherein I would receive an incremental raise every two weeks, while I'm training.
c. And he also said he would officially put me on the payroll while I'm on my two weeks notice at my current job, so when I actually start working at the new job, I'd already be on the second pay scale (which is still below what I make now).
d. And he guaranteed that I'd be working full-time at the latest by the beginning of February (unless I'm totally fucking up), and possibly before then if the demand for full-time workers becomes really high.
e. So I'll probably be taking a pay cut for a month or two, but after that, I should be back up to at least what I'm making now, and possibly a little more.

So I'm mulling it over, but I think I'm really ready for a change, so I'll probably take it. I have to decide by Monday. So give input if you have it.

I sold $180 worth of CDs and DVDs to Reckless this afternoon.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 26 November 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

PRO/CON: I would probably be on ILX a LOT less.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 26 November 2005 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

If you trust that the boss is going to follow through with his promised raises, and get all that stuff in writing, and can afford to absorb a pay cut for a few months, I'd take it. It sounds interesting, and it would be a good resume builder even if you don't want to work there forever.

And think how great it will be to tell your current job that you are leaving to do something that actually takes skillz and stuff.

Although getting up that early might ruin me a little, but I suppose I'd get used to it.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 27 November 2005 00:38 (nineteen years ago)

Con #4 screams RUN AWAY FAST.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 27 November 2005 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure why I'm so nervous about this, maybe I'm overcaffeinated. I looked at the numbers again, and if he follows the pay guidelines he outlined for me, I'll be making the same pay per hour I'm making now by Jan. 1st, and if I do go full time in February, I'll be making more money. I guess it's just the issue of me not knowing for sure if I can trust this guy or not. He seemed trustworthy, we had a good talk, and it looked like a "real office," but you can never know for sure, I guess. Do you think if I email him with the pay schedule he outlined for me and ask him to affirm it by reply email, that that's documentation enough, or do I need to ask him to sign something? Because I'm not sure how comfortable I am with that, that's essentially like me calling him a liar.
Essentially, even though that pay/part-time thing I outlined looks complicated, I understand it and it makes sense: it's basically the "three-month trial period" thing that most jobs have, except that you're officially a part-time employee during your trial period because they want you to stick to learning the basics (the work in the morning is different from the work in the afternoon).
I guess since I'm trying to justify this all positively, that's probably an indication that I want to take the job, despite all my worrying.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 27 November 2005 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

get all that stuff in writing

yes yes yes. i have heard too many horror stories of jobs that had all these promises that they didn't follow through with. you're not calling the guy untrustworthy, you're just being cautious and protecting yourself. though maybe an email would be fine, i don't know about that sort of thing. just something in writing.

but it really does sound like you want to take the job...it would be cool to be doing something new, it seems.

maybe a long commute, but you could get lots of reading done!

― Juulia (julesbdules), Sunday, 27 November 2005 02:39 (nineteen years ago)

I would probably just drive, it would take like twice as long to take the El out there I think.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 27 November 2005 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

This isn't obituaries, is it, Nick? I was wondering when you first mentioned Evanston a few weeks ago.

I'm not getting an image at the start of this thread.

Not to be confused with... /http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00000I25G.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 27 November 2005 03:19 (nineteen years ago)

Rather than print it out and present it for a signature, I would email him the pay raise schedule as you understand it, and say something like, "I wanted to confirm that this is the pay schedule that you outlined. I am very interested in the job, but would like to have our agreement in writing."

That way he can reply to the email, which I think is good enough (I'm not a lawyer yet, though, so I can't say for certain) or he'll have something printed out for you all official like. OR he'll tell you that there's no need to put any of this in writing, in which case DO NOT TAKE THE JOB. (If he says that it's all outlined in the employee manual and there's not need to put it in writing DO NOT TAKE THE JOB then, either, because he's just blowing smoke up your ass.)

Basically, it's not out of the ordinary in the least to ask for this kind of info in writing, especially when it's a weird pay agreement like this one. Any legit employer who is really interested in hiring you will do this, because it's not big deal. The writing would outline the increase agreement and say something about how it doesn't bind either of you to a term of employment of a certain length or something so they can fire you if you suck (which you don't, but the employer has a right to protect itself, too). If this guy acts even remotely reluctant to put something in writing for you, he's up to no good, and that is the truth.

Asking for this stuff in writing is a good way to test to make sure they are on the up and up.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 27 November 2005 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

How will Sarah get to work if you have the car?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 27 November 2005 03:21 (nineteen years ago)

L'autobus. It's a straight shot down Division and then a short walk from there.

I'm tired of thinking about it. Here's the plan. Very soon I'm going to go to the Ice Factory and hope that the show is stupid and/or entertaining enough to get my mind off all this. I will probably also drink some cheap beer. Then I will come home and get some sleep. Tomorrow I will wake up and draft an email to the dude with my questions, concerns, and understanding of what the pay schedule would be. Then I will send it and forget it until I get a response. Then Sarah will come home and take care of me.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 27 November 2005 03:29 (nineteen years ago)

And it's not obituaries. I WISH it were obituaries! I'm not trying to be mysterious about the job itself, it's just not a GLAMOUR thing where everyone's going to be like OOOH WE'RE SO EXCITED!!! It's a company that essentially finds and digests relevant news information for bigger companies that are too busy to do so on their own.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 27 November 2005 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

I interviewed for an obituary-writing job in Evanston during the dot-com era but couldn't take the job because of some scheduling, and then a friend of mine swooped in and took it.

Questions during my interview included: If you could only have one food, what would it be?; and If you could have one magic power, what would it be?

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 27 November 2005 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

Well? What would it be?

Oh and also:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002TS3.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 27 November 2005 04:14 (nineteen years ago)

OH ANSD I do Feel much better now and admittedly somewhat drunk but it turned out all ineedeed was :
lots of bad beer
lots of loud beaaaats
to be in a crowd

these cheeZ its are good
House of Leaves freaked me out earlier today

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 27 November 2005 07:34 (nineteen years ago)

I am totally dominateing this chicago threead
whats up chicago????

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 27 November 2005 07:41 (nineteen years ago)

help i can't stop eating cheezits

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 27 November 2005 07:44 (nineteen years ago)

buh buh buh

i am gettin offline now bye goodinight

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 27 November 2005 07:46 (nineteen years ago)

omg jenny i was going to post that

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 07:49 (nineteen years ago)

the butthodles urfrs. thing i mean. wher is sarh? y doesn ick have al this free time fot mustake msuuci,?

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 07:50 (nineteen years ago)

8i ha velianeated all my frfendss abecause i am too durnl, take pity o nm please.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 07:50 (nineteen years ago)

okwase .i imean PLEASE!!!!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 07:51 (nineteen years ago)

tiy fyta okicw m, efh>... you guys lov me right?

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 07:51 (nineteen years ago)

Except when you're too diurnal.

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 27 November 2005 07:54 (nineteen years ago)

i dont evn now what tha means!!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 07:55 (nineteen years ago)

Oh hey, I'm drunk too!! HONEST!!!

Diurnal = opposite of nocturnal!

― giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 27 November 2005 08:39 (nineteen years ago)

WHAT DID ERIC MEAN BY THAT THEN?

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 08:47 (nineteen years ago)

You said "abecause i am too durnl"

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 27 November 2005 08:53 (nineteen years ago)

DRUNK.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 08:54 (nineteen years ago)

durnl = drunk for "diurnal."

DUH.

xpost EXACTLY>

― giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 27 November 2005 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

LET'S KEEP THIS BOAT AFLOAT, CUNN_NG_AM. I'VE GOT RUM. AND YOU?!?!1

― giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 27 November 2005 08:56 (nineteen years ago)

you guyz are aweosme :)))

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 08:58 (nineteen years ago)

i have beer in the fridge but i seriously don't need to be drinking anymrore. this buzz will last me hours.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

Mebbe. What IS awesome: SNOW. KEEP IT UP, WEATHER.

― giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:00 (nineteen years ago)

booo. i need new shoes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:01 (nineteen years ago)

I should be drinking beer. I'm three hours fresh from a ridiculous 6 hour drive from MN. I'M WIRED. DRUNK IS THE ONLY WAY TO BED>

― giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:01 (nineteen years ago)

agreed!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:02 (nineteen years ago)

timeout: CIGARETTE.

― giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:03 (nineteen years ago)

too many cigarettes tonight, my throat is in trouble

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

ok bye evan i am going to bed motherfuckers

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

My roommates drank the rum :(

― giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:10 (nineteen years ago)

In 10 years, I will show this to your wives and we will all have a good laugh.

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

you are obsessed wtih this wwhole "ilx is 4-ever" thing, eaazy . well i doubt i will ever get married, so take that!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

IN YOUR FACE

― giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

i also doubt i will ever make more than $50,000/year. who makes that kinda money? not me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc, I have the job for you that can make you just about that.

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

tell me about said job/

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

Quick, before you sober up - I'll give you the number for HR voicemail.

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

wait is it the one you are leaving???

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:17 (nineteen years ago)

:-)

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:17 (nineteen years ago)

or is the associate registrar at loyola university?

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:18 (nineteen years ago)

:-(

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:18 (nineteen years ago)

?!?

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:19 (nineteen years ago)

!?!

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

you are a peach :)

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

no sriously tho you are one of my favorite people on earth & i am not just saying that.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

Hey you're a prince among men, John.

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:25 (nineteen years ago)

:) ... ok really tho good night!

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

jaymc is crepuscular.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 27 November 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

you guys are adorable.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Sunday, 27 November 2005 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'm hungover and think I have tonsillitis.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 27 November 2005 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yeeks! CUT 'EM OUT.

― giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 27 November 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Gib, are you in Minnesota now, or are you on your kitchen floor?

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 27 November 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm at work again!

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Sunday, 27 November 2005 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

jaymc, maybe you have a shotglass lodged in your tonsils!

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 27 November 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'm back in Chicago!

― giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 27 November 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

I made biscuits this morning. My mother-in-law can now rest easy knowing that her only son has married a biscuit-making woman.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 27 November 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

I woke up late and found that my housemates had already had a brunch of pancakes, bagels, grapes, coffee, etc., and I had the leftovers.

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 27 November 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

My dad always told me to marry a biscuit-maker.

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 27 November 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

I made biscuits both yesterday and today...from a tube of dough.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 27 November 2005 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

I never bothered to learn when I had regular access to the heirloom knowledge of biscuit making mothers and grandmothers, but because Chicago is far inferior to the US South when it comes to the ready availability of Mary B's Fresh-Bake Frozen Biscuits, I finally had to put on my big girl pants and make it happen all by myself.

The real test comes when I'm called upon to demonstrate my technique to the matriarchs of Jeff's clan... I think I will keep my new-found skill to myself until I get in some more practice.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 27 November 2005 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

I love biscuits! Maybe I will make some tonight. For DINNER.

We made a big cauldron of cheesy potato soup (with the potatoes all vaporized) on Friday and just kept it warm on the stove all weekend for meals and snacks.

― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 27 November 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning Chicago. I do NOT want to go to work today.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Today is going to be hell. I expect over 100 calls, post move.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Monday, 28 November 2005 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

....the office moved?

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Hi guys! I've emerged from my hole...to go to work! I can't say that I'm excited about this. Today I will be buried in phone-call making, which is my least favorite part of my job.

But at the risk of starting off too grumpily, I have to tell you guys what I made on Thanksgiving -- BUTTER ROLLS. Flaky, delicious butter rolls and I made herb butter to put on them. Take that RK. I made other stuff, but the butter rolls (flaky, muffin-shaped butter rolls)were a first. I have a photo, but it's at home. Maybe tonight I'll remember.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

Also - I have a question for anyone who has ever enjoyed the music of Pavement (and I know that at least some of you have).

Without going back and listening to it, what's your impression of accent SM uses on CR,CR? You can respond here or email or whatever. (Note: this is for my final project for my class, so I'm pressing you in the name of academic inquiry, not because I want to pressure you into having an opinion.)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

I also don't necessarily want 1,000 new answers by morning, I'm just doing an informal survey.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

I would describe his accent as "smug asshole with a hint of Anglophilia."

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning. Work is going to suck for me as well today.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Work will probably be normal today except I might get to quit.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 28 November 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah -- congrats on that, Nick!! I think you'll find that after a while getting up at 5:30 isn't such a big deal.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Especially since there's no traffic at that hour, or at the hour you'll be leaving the office. That sounds pretty awesome, really.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

I need a new job so bad I can taste it. Half the office didn't show up today after their paychecks bounced for the second or third week in a row.

If you can't give me a job, I also need a hug.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like I need a dance party REAL BAD.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

I went to a dance party (well, dance music, no one was actually dancing) at the Ice Factory on Sat., it was great! Oh, I guess I already said that, sorry.

Kenan, you can apply for the job I have now if I quit. But I don't think you want it.

I sent the boss dude for my potential new job an email yesterday, asking him to confirm everything as I understand it and tell me specifically what benefits they offer. As soon as he writes back, I can quit. Well, once my current boss actually comes into the office.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds like you need a Mr. Beef, K.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Worst euphemism ever.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

No, no euphamism, the real thing!

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

I would like very badly to quit my job, I think. Thing is: it pays well, is easy, the people are nice, but it's so fucking boring and against my so-called "principles" that I want to cut my head off.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Quitting is awesome.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

...I need to finish my grad school apps, though. Quick! Someone write my personal statement!

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

I would prefer to be "laid off" so that I can collect unemployment while I look for another job.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.aperfectworld.org/cartoons/killingspree.gif

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, job woes galore. My weekend wasn't relaxing enough (or at all, really) to re-fortify me for this place. Except I tidied at home, that's a small comfort.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, me too. why is this time of the year so effing BUSY? i hate it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Jobs. More than this week of deadlines, I'm dreading the business trip I have to go on at the end of the week. Friday to Wednesday, 12.5 hour shifts in a hospital, losing my weekend, blech. It's not like I get paid any more for it either.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

At least you don't have tuberculosis!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

My weekend was kind of weird. Except for Thanksgiving itself, which was fun, I spent almost the entire weekend at home, not talking to anyone, reading a lot. I'm about halfway through House of Leaves and it's really good, not as "difficult" as I expected and really creeping me out. I recommend it to those of you who are always requesting recommendations for creepy books.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, Dan just read that! He loved it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

I shouldn't complain too loudly since I'm about to get a promotion, a raise, and a couple of months of back-pay, but the promotion is a year overdue and the raise is unfairly low because I was promoted from within (instead of hired from without). Companies are crap.

You are right! Nor consumption! Which reminds me of a slush manuscript I read years ago -- a memoir of one elderly woman's stay in a TB santatorium in which the patients were supposed to lie flat and not get excited -- so they weren't allowed to read books (too heavy) or do, say, sewing (too intricate)...the only thing they were allowed to do was to languish in their wards AND SMOKE LYING DOWN. True story. Christ.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

For some reason, I thought it was going to be all challenging and postmodern, and it is a little, but mostly in terms of physical layout and a little bit of mindfuckery about who in the story is fictional and who is real and who's writing what, but the story itself is a pretty easy read and surprisingly scary.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - Wow. That's bleak. I took a tour of Mammoth Cave where deep inside, like three miles inside, there was an ad hoc tuberculosis "hospital" -- that's right...inside the longest cave in the world. Everyone who stayed there died. It was a pretty cool tour.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

XP Nick: Yeah, I just remember it being surprisingly creepy, esp the story line with the crazy old dead (missing?) man and the kid from the tattoo parlor. But then I like that footnote shit.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

You never know, the first one was clean but I have my second TB test today. It's been quite a week.

Btw Jenny was right, when I went back to get my test "read" they just told me to push up my jacket sleeve, saw that I didn't have a giant swelled arm where they stuck me and said, "OK, see ya."

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, Tep just read House of Leaves and made a good post about it:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/doctorpop/53549.html

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

For some reason, I thought it was going to be all challenging and postmodern

It does go off the rails a bit later in the book.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

And that cave story is somewhat related to House of Leaves as well...mysterious.

I don't usually get creeped out by fiction, whether in books or movies, but this book is doing it somehow. I don't even think the writing is amazing or anything, I just think the wacky layout tricks do the job and there's some good scary imagery.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

OK, well I don't want to read anything about it until I finish it, so I'll try and remember to read Tep's thing later.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

I love the creepy parts. I fell off the wagon in the middle of the book, but I'd like to go back and finish it. I think I've said it before, I loved the "house" parts but my inability to gloss over the footnotes was driving my nuts and I started to hate the Johnny Truant sections.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Hello, everybody. I had a fun Thanksgiving. I am busy busy these days too. Maybe I will see one of you at one of the three shows we're playing this month? Or on the streets of France?

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, McLusky and I (not McClusky the band but the FFs) are playing next Sunday - no cover, and apparently they're giving us a bit of a bar tab to play with, too.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Eric, I finally made fliers for that show, copied them, drove over to drop them off, and couldn't find Cleary's. That was when I realized I had put the wrong address on the fliers. So now I have to start over. I am dum

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

I am home sick today. :(

In some ways, it is nice because I get to finish my Vincent Gallo article I'm writing. But like Nick, I've also spent most of this past weekend at home by myself (on Friday I didn't leave the house until 10:30 PM, yesterday I didn't leave at all) -- and I'm really eager to get back into my usual routine.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

I thought about calling you on Sat night, which would have been interesting since we were both drunk, but in my drunkenness I forgot to.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

xpost- I suggested Nick hang out with you while I was gone, but I guess he assumed you were doing family things.

What are you sick with? Bad cold? Flu?

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Sore throat, stuffed-up nose, general malaise.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

:-( Pobrecito!

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds like you need soup.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

Too much Vincent Gallo. You need some Enya to clear out your system.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, by the way -- we went to Ras Dashen, the Ethiopian restaurant on Broadway, and it was really super good! We should totally have a dinner-FAP there because of all of the interesting vegetarian options.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

sorry for the interruption...

jaymc, what is the name of the bar that the mandee FAP was held? i'll be in chicago for part of the holidays.

hi!

― ai lien (kold_krush), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Hi everyone. I ended up staying here this weekend too. I didn't realize anyone else was - we should have done something. I went to a dinner/party with some of the guys from my band on Thursday and made food and lazed around with my gf Saturday and yesterday.

Now I'm annoyed to be at work, and annoyed at the weather as well.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

Man, we all really should have hung out at some point this weekend. I didn't do that much, although I got a lot of school-stuff out of the way. And if you're wondering, SM pronounces his non-prevocalic /r/ 33% of the time on CR, CR. Because I know you're wondering.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I LOVE Ras Dashen. Prob. the best Ethiopian restaurant in Chicago.

Ai lien: the Mandee FAP was held at Marie's Rip Tide Lounge, but it didn't really work out for a large group because they only had booths that accommodated four to five people, and the drinks were too expensive, anyway. We spent the first half of the night at the Bucktown Pub, which was all right because they had an outdoor patio, but was otherwise kind of yuppie-ish. I'd encourage you to look elsewhere! I'll think about it... When are you coming?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

morning chicago . . . I'll probably be kinda AWOL for awhile since I'm slammed at work & stuff, but I like it here better. Thanksgiving was great. Leaf & I flew out to DE where we had an AMAZING thanksgiving meal. The day after thanksgiving found us eating dinner at Dogfish (the pub & brewery), getting slightly drunk & then trekking over to The Frogg Pond b/c my mom wanted the family to do karaoke at a lesbian bar. It was hilarious. No karaoke (since a band was playing) but we did have a couple rounds of drinks & then headed off to my brother's favorite dive bar for more drinking, pool playing & darts. Mom & I danced in between throws. It was awesome. We kept drunk dialing my brother so I think he felt like he was a part of the crew.
Then Leaf & I flew back to Chicago on Saturday morning & had a lovely Saturday of alone time & fabulous veggie food at Blind Faith. It was great. Now I'm suffering from a desire to be in Minneapolis ASAP, hating my job & wondering what the hell I should do for my birthday. It's in two weeks on a Sunday. Leaf has exams, so going to Minneapolis is out, which makes me sad.
Also, I kinda feel like chatting with ladies about engagements. I've been thinking about that whole thing lately & I should probably talk it out with ladies.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

by "we" i mean we pub crawled with my parents. i don't know if that is clear or not. hilarious thanksgiving this year!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'll be in Chicago in a bout a month.

― Corcoran (nordicskilla), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

DOGFISH. So jealous.

I love their beer and I've been wanting to make a pilgrimage out there. How's their food?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

The food is good! I had this tuna steak sandwich that was awesome & I've also had their pizza which is good. The beer is reason enough to go, though. My parents don't live far from there . . . when you go, let me know!!! Maybe we'll be out east at the same time & we can get drunk & go play skee ball at FUN LAND!!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

haha - you barhopped with your parents. i wish mine were so cool. my mom is great, but sort of reserved and my dad always wants to schmooze with strangers. i'm up for talking about ladythings anytime...you know where to find me!!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Adam!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

One of the drunkest I've ever been was with Kelsey's parents and a couple of New Zealand house painters.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

I was trying to drunk-text Jenny and/or Jeff whilst at Dogfish, but realized that I didn't save either of their numbers in my phone!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsey once drunk-dialed me from DE, and, if I remember right, her uncle kept making playful threats not to mess around with his neice.

We should have K's bachelorette party in Atlantic City, I believe.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

(K. and I have never been more than casino-shuttle buddies, so I don't mind getting threatened by her relatives, since I am In The Clear.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

I have a new FF record title. The Fake F1ctions - Not Safe for ROCK.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

I wish people would drunk-dial me. I need a cell phone, I guess.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

that is true, E. It was Christmas 2 years ago that we called (or was it 3?) . . . during one of our "Christmas Eve Drink Offs" between myself, my brother & my uncle. I won one year & lost one.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

j, i'll be in with a friend on the 29th of dec - 2 jan.

we're still looking for something to do for new year's eve. aside from that pitchfork event. personally, i'd love to crash someone i don't know's party. i can make up stuff about myself.

― ai lien (kold_krush), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

DOGFISH, I drank far too much 90 minute ipa over thanksgiving.

― bingo (Chris V), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

that shit is so good!!! that's what I had!! well, one of the things i had. i also tried Pangea & something else i can't remember.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

its great but the massive hangover the next day is not.

― bingo (Chris V), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh, I haven't seen Pangea in stores. I've got a special place in my heart for the chicory stout.

How about, The Fake Fictions: Best Rockers Alive

(sorry, I've been listening to Lil' Wayne)

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Dogfish keeps topping the list of best beers, when I read those kinds of articles in my safe-for-work men's lifestyle magazines.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

pangea was good. leaf had midas & the 120 IPA, i think.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, Kelsey, you were in MY VERY OWN HOME TOWN! That's exciting.

I didn't do anything other than Thanksgiving dinner (which was fun!) but I finished three class outlines and wrote the rough draft for my labor law final policy question, and that's pretty much what I inteded to do so that's cool.

I read House of Leaves when I lived alone in Atlanta in an apt. with no cable (and so no thoughtless distractions) and windows that didn't lock and a dumpster where homeless dudes lived and little to no friends so it was always kind of quiet and lonely and alienating and MAN did that book give me the heebie jeebies. I've thought about re-reading it since, but the memory of those heebie jeebies keeps me from doing it.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Note: I was nervous ALL THE TIME when I lived in Atlanta.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

SEE the documentary "American Beer" good times.

― bingo (Chris V), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

I remember when Dogfish Head opened. I was very, very excited, even though I didn't live in Rehoboth Beach anymore. At least I knew there would be good beer when I went home to visit family.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

That documentary looks awesome. Maddie and I are thinking about giving homebrewing a shot.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

i want to try homebrewing as well...but it may prove too difficult for me. there is a place in town called Deja Brew that lets you brew your own beer. http://www.deja-brew.com/

― bingo (Chris V), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

i think my friends and i are going to embark on a east coast brewery tour sometime in spring...luckily there are thousands of them on the east coast.

― bingo (Chris V), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a really big fan of Three Floyds, which is in Indiana IIRC. Has anyone been there?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 28 November 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

I wish drinking was acceptable among my relatives. Unfortunately, it's Satan Juice or something.

And Kelsey, I'm totally up for talking about engagements. I'm not engaged, but I've heard of people being engaged before.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

ARGH WHY WON'T POTENTIAL BOSS DUDE REPLY TO MY EMAIL SAYING EVERYTHING IS OK? I told him I would give him a yes or no answer today, but I can't until he replies to my email.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, Kelsey! I missed the desire to chat about engagements - I'll chat! I like chatting about engagements.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

In the meantime I got another message about the EDITORIAL ADMINISTRATIVE ASSISTANT woman, who I still haven't talked to, and I have to decide whether to call her back or not.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry I derailed the beer convo. My dad always offers me beer or wine but I'm not really comfortable drinking around him for some reason. But I like beer.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

Chris, I'd never heard of that documentary before — thanks, it's on the Netflix queue now.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm probably too comfortable drinking around my parents. At this point, they pretty much know everything save for my sexual history & have seen me hung over & puke from drinking . . . I think we're living by the motto: "A family that drinks together, stays together."

Or something. I think the older i get the more I realize what a freakish blessing my whole family is. I'm using "freakish" in the positive here.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

2 times, Kelsey. Well, except for the sexual history and puking part. I never get that drunk around my folks. Makes me scared to think how much alcohol that would take.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 28 November 2005 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Yo. I don't think I mentioned that but C4n4st4 has a new website, complete with a Flash player so you can stream the entire album. Woo.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

Or something. I think the older i get the more I realize what a freakish blessing my whole family is. I'm using "freakish" in the positive here.

This is basically my family exactly.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

Hooray!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

Interesting fact!

My uncle Paddy (70some year old Irish man) was over from England visiting the fam in Ireland -- went out drinking with the youngsters. Paddy (along with a handful of my other uncles) is an inveterate drinker, right? Has been for ages. I once left him at a pub at 1pm in the afternoon and came back 6 hours later to find that he and my uncle Tony had both put pack something like 14 pints EACH.

Anyway. Paddy's out with the fam and then decides to go home. While drunkenly stumbling back to wherever he was staying, he slips and bumps his head. THe next day, still feeling disoriented, he visits the doctor. Doc says there's not much to do this long after the concussion. Oh well.

A few days later, Paddy's feeling totally normal, except for one thing: he has completely lost the desire to drink. Like, at all. But not in a remorseful, embarassed way (this man has illegitimate children -- it'll take more than a bump on the head to show him the error of his ways); rather, he's just lost the taste for it. Bumping his head cured his alcoholism! WTF.

He's been "clean" (save a few pints) for the last few months now.

Science is neat!

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

that's a great story & sounds like folklore more than science, which is what i like about it.

by the way, i'm going to start on yer earflaps soon . . . maybe even tonight!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

I drink around my extended family out of self-defense, and to in solidarity with my mother, who is also drinking out of extended-family driven self-defense.

DO YOU PEOPLE KNOW WHAT I REALIZED?

I realized that I am in amazingly good shape, exam prep wise. Like really good shape. Compared to a lot of people, I'm in like, ready to take the exams right now shape (I disagree, but whatever). I've also made myself a nifty little schedule that lists what I need to do each day between now and when exams start. And because it's exam time, I have suspended my work with the attorney I work for sometimes and Worker Justice, Inc. And here's the thing:

I have some free time.

I just realized that I have some free time!

So, let's have drinks one night this week please. Or this weekend. Or whenever. I can meet people out for drinks! I CAN MEET PEOPLE OUT FOR DRINKS!!!!!!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Lucky duck.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

This week might be a little crazy, but the weekend would be good. And as Eric already mentioned, if you come to the FF/EZ show this Sunday, we may be able to get you a free drink or two.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

that's a great story & sounds like folklore more than science, which is what i like about it.

100% truth!

EARFLAPS!!! Oh man!

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

Drinks are good. I'm surprised I still have a taste for them after this weekend, actually!

Where are you guys playing Sunday?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

Cleary's on Clark
3438 N Clark

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

I might buy a new guitar before then. Maybe. I sold all those cds and dvds to get cash to help pay for it, but then realized I also need to get xmas presents for everyone and I might be working part time for the next two months, so now I'm not sure I should buy a new guitar.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

JENNY!!!!!! I AM UP FOR DRINKING!!!! I really enjoy drinking & going out for drinks. Plus, I have $$ to do it at the moment. ANY NIGHT IS GOOD FOR ME!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

Here's me today:

1. I drank
2. Work is crappy
3. I'd like to drink again

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Aw, no drinking 'til I get better!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

evan, you're single, right? would you ever want to be set up with someone?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

You drank this morning, Kelsey?

John, you need to drink a hot toddy and go to sleep.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'm writing an article!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

A hot toddy, though... Hmmm. That would mean leaving the house to buy liquor.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

this weekend!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Lucky duck.

I know. Lucky, very surprised duck. It hit me today at lunch when I realized I didn't have to read any school work and I could just get a paper and read that, instead. It was like a sunbeam broke through the clouds and illuminated my mind.

Of course, I'll probably take this too far in the opposite direction and not do any work and fail out of school.

Kelsey - OKAY! Yay!

John - you need NASAL IRRIGATION.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

evan, you're single, right? would you ever want to be set up with someone?

!!!

....maybe. "Setting up" in general makes me nervous.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

There is an old Jewish matchmaker who lives in me and wakes up when she finds out that awesome single friends are looking for honeys.

*scans classroom*

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

I need to set my roommate (& very good friend), Brooke, up. She's awesome & has been single for far too long b/c she is hesitant to take much initiative to not be single. I'm trying to set her up. Evan, you may have met her very briefly at the R. Kelsey thing.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

She's funny and has great cheekbones and pretty hair...

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

Most of the law school dudez I know are married, committed, or not recommended. Weird, huh?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Or gay.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

xpost
She has a great sense of style too. And is a good dancer, which you would know if you saw our bit.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Or all four.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

What about the law-school gals? There could be a double- or triple-date in the making here...

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

...was she one of the two ladies you left the bar with that night?

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

I like Brooke. She rules.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

http://a2k.free.fr/images/image100.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sold!

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

I have a sudden craving for eggnog. That is not an enigmatic response to Kenan's picture, I just suddenly want some eggnog. NOGGIN' IT.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

I love eggnog. With or without the booze. Sooo creeeemy.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

TS: NOGGIN' IT v. CHILLAXIN'

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

yes, she was one of the two i left with. she was the unmarried one.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

evan, are there any pictures of you online?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6058/Evan.jpg

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

Somehow I think a long-sleeved t-shirt under a short-sleeved shirt buttoned to the top looks more appealing in cartoon form than in real life.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

especially if the shirt on top is shaped like a vest around the waist.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

i like how a lock of hair is trapped underneath his mirrored spectacles.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

(change the 3 to an e and the 0 to an o.)

http://images.google.com/images?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=3van%20sk0w

First four results = man of ACTION!

Also: pics are four years old

(also: I am not a beauty pageant organizer)

Hey look I'm 17 years old and making a funny face!

(apparently the only thing I do on the internet is climb rocks)
http://www.iit.edu/~andejoe1/Rockguide/images/gallery3.GIF

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

I just looked you up on Friendster and am disturbed by one of the photos.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

Have the Chicago threads really devolved into pimping? I need to stop by more often.

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

...!!!

Is it the open-chested gun one?

xpost, yes, they have.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

Evolved, more like it. We're here to take care of your needs. I have friends in Brooklyn, you know...

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

Your handle is taking on whole new dimensions!

― hahaha SO IS MINE (nabisco), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

What about the law-school gals?

I know a number of available, straight and non-straight, totally recommendable law school wimmins. I think I even know one that can make biscuits!

xpost: haha! Yes. Except I'm not doing this for money, just for the love of my friends.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

In one of my not-so-proud drunken moments on Saturday night, I threw Renee's beer at her when she said she was planning on setting up her friend Lynn with M4t C4lvert instead of me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

Not to rain on the parade, but I'll never set people up again. Even with your friends, the results are far easier to deal with when you let things happen on their own.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

~~Your handle~~ This thread title is taking on whole new dimensions!

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

There are plenty of nice invisible ways to set people up -- e.g., get them really drunk, "accidentally" handcuff them together, keep them in a closet for several days, only offer water by dripping it down the other person's neck, etc.

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

...make sure they're both locked in the same vault/freezer in the same bank/restaurant, so they have that "we lived through a crisis together" bond.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

Well, if the law-school gals need some arm candy for their holiday parties...

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

we lived through a crisis together

It's Coming! It's Coming! It's In The Trees! The Official ILX *LOST - SEASON 2* Action & Adventure Thread!

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

See, that's the thing. You can't ever tell people you're setting them up. You just make sure people are in the same room at the same time and then leave it alone. Stealth is key. The minute you let on that something is afoot, the awkward kicks in and everything goes straight to hell.

Although once when two friends I was trying to put in the same room together weren't moving fast enough, I confided in one that I was pretty sure the other one wanted to hook up and TA DAAAA!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

Being openly set up is great, because then you both get to talk about how lame being set up is! You have so much in common!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

That's true. And it gives the "surviving a crisis" bond...

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

The minute you let on that something is afoot, the awkward kicks in and everything goes straight to hell.

This is very true.

Although once when two friends I was trying to put in the same room together weren't moving fast enough, I confided in one that I was pretty sure the other one wanted to hook up and TA DAAAA!

...this is also true: "oh, she wants to make out, huh? And you're sure? Cool. Let's make this thing HAPPEN."

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

I think setting up two people can lead to awkwardness, but letting two people know that each is available and interested in the other (when this is in fact the case) is an act of great kindness.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

letting two people know that each is available and interested in the other (when this is in fact the case) is an act of great kindness.

YAHTZEE.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

Eazy, Please email me and then I'll you.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking for myself, there's nothing sexier than a woman that is interested in me.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

....so, is, like, everyone working or something?

In other news: I AM GOING ON A BUSINESS TRIP TO NYC NEXT WEEK!!!!

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

Leaf & I were set up! Knowingly, in fact!

xpost: I just got an interview for a job in Minneapolis . . . for next Friday!!!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

....wait. Interview in Mpls or JOB STARTS next Friday?

Way to go!

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

GO KELSEY!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome, Kelsey!

I hope you have fun, Gib, I have a business trip to a suburb of L.A. but I highly doubt there will be time to go into the city or do anything resembling fun. Except for eating tacos. So many tacos.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

e.g., get them really drunk

Not guaranteed to work, sadly. Although I did once set up a UK visitor with happy results in the "that girl thinks you're cute; wanna make out with her?" vein. Ahhh, corruption for sport.

Jib, you're coming to visit us?!?

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

Trip consists afternoon meeting at NY office. Dinner with clients at fancy-ass restaurant. Potentially awkward "partying" with officemates on the company tab. ... Profit!

Fly home next day.

All of this will be tacked onto the tailend of a funeral I'll be attending in Jersey this weekend. Going to be a strange few days.

xpost -- yep, I'll be in the NYC from Friday to Tuesday. Although, sadly, much of that will be taken up with funeral- and work-related things.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

~~happy~~ sexy results!!

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Ach well, tell us when you're free & maybe we can justify a dinner or happy hour or something.

Kelz, best of luck!!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

NYC will be fun, Gib!

And it's an interview, not an actual job. Yet. I decided that I really want it.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

Oh definitely. I think I'm taking the train out there!

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

jenny, i wish TONIGHT were beer night. I'm jittery as fuck!

oh! and leaf fixed my flat tire for me so the biking will hopefully resume!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

Excellent! God knows it's warm enough now. I nearly died on the way to work -- WAY too overdressed.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't ride today b/c they said it was windy!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

What do "they" know anyway?

...though, it WAS windy, and wettish.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

sorry if i put you too much on the spot earlier with the hook up thing.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

i just think you seem like a really great person & hell, i'd probably try to date you or something if i were single. and brooke is great too. so, two great people being great -- together.

or something.

. . . anyway . . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

I'm about to leave the house for the first time in 40 hours.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

you've spent an entire work week locked up in your house? or are you including sleeping hours?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

I, for one, love greatness and think it is generally underrated.

...you're pretty great, yourself! You didn't really put me on the spot -- but I'll probably stay coy for a bit here, all the same.

xpost -- that is FUCKED, J.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

I'm including sleeping hours. I got home around 2 AM Saturday/Sunday. Haven't left since.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

that's probably ideal for the sickies. i hope you're feeling a bit better!
i'm suddenly STARVING. what should i eat for dinner?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

What should I eat for dinner when I have a craving for:
beer
onion rings
cigarettes
?
?
?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

Don't eat cigarettes.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

honestly, i shouldn't eat any of that crap. I just feel like it b/c i'm all excited. actually, does anyone know where i can get a good & fairly inexpensive tuna steak or tuna steak sandwich?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

NOT whole foods.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

john & i just agreed that you have a warm heart.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

Shucks.

http://www.empireprecision.com/Images/Handshake.jpg

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

You weren't supposed to tell him!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

he called to chat & the conversation turned to whether you & brooke would actually "work out" & i just admitted that i like both of you a lot (or at least what i know of you) & that's when we agreed that you have a warm heart.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

evan = warm heart
kelsey = BIG mouth

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

Now this is like twee cuddle-pimping. That's not gonna fly in the 718.

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

You weren't supposed to tell him!!

Busted.

xpost: thank god SOMEone's keeping it real around here.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:53 (nineteen years ago)

Today is going to be hell. I expect over 100 calls, post move.

Yes, our office moved over the thanksgiving holidays, today was the first day most employees were allowed in the new building. I actually took 177 calls today. My brain is numb.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

Ouch. So sorry, Jeff.

After work today one of the head engineers (who quit this morning) came in and conducted a meeting between a lot of the designers and engineers. We're forming a freelance collective. Not all of us are quitting or anything, but it'll be VERY nice to have some source of income other than this shaky, shaky workplace of mine. And it won't take more than three of us to do any one site... at most, one guy designs, one guy codes the HTML, and one guy does the backend. More likely, it'll be one guy designing and coding, and one guy engineering.

Anyway. This could be really cool. A bunch of web people working together, charging less money than our ("real") company charges, and still making craploads more than we would working for the company alone. One of these sites a month could mean the difference between abject poverty and nice new things for all of us.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

ahem...

YAHTZEE! Sounds pretty sweet, K.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 01:34 (nineteen years ago)

Nice. Clients and talent hooking up and cutting the "company" out of the equation is great. When I struck out on my own, I offered my main client a rate that was less than she was paying the printing company, but was still three times more per hour than I was making working for the same company. She saves money, I get a big raise and do less work, and the company, uh... files Chapter 7 the next year.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, yes... that's the dream.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 02:15 (nineteen years ago)

I send you positive vibes:

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 02:20 (nineteen years ago)

thank ye.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

DAMMIT I hate interlibrary loan. I want one 7 page article from 2001 and it's unavailable in the state of Illinois? Come on. COME ON!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 02:37 (nineteen years ago)

I send positive vibes to all freelancers, but not to the overlord of ILL.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 02:37 (nineteen years ago)

Now, K., all the three-man team needs is some "models".

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

Business models. Those are the kind that show up in a stern womanly suit with their hair in a bun, then they take out the hair pin and take off the grey jacket and suddenly it's the video for "Hot fro Teacher."

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

hot FOR. Hot fro teacher is a little more ethnic than what I was imagining.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

Here, bike people! Here is a video of people doing crazy things with their bikes in NYC. It's quicktime and has experience enhancing and ROCKING, but ultimately unnecessary for understanding the crazy things happening with the bikes, music.

xoxoxox Jenny posting as Jeff

PS Congratulations, Kenan! Way to make lemonaid. Get some tax advice STAT so you don't end up owning the government $10k April after next.

― Not Jeff, but really Jenny (Jeff), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

I mean HERE http://homepage.mac.com/rachelmeyrick/iMovieTheater8.html is the bike video. Sheesh.

― Jenny again becuase she fucked up the first time (Jeff), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning Chicago!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

My goal for today is to not complain.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, me too. No complaining. That means that we're going to have to talk about underwear or something...

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

How do we feel about eggnog lattes? It sounded good in concept, but I just couldn't go through with it this morning.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know about the rest of you, but I cheerfully decline anything eggnog-related. Cheerfully and without complaint! It's just too thick a beverage.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like it. Too...eggy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand the urge to flavor coffee (which has its own strong and distinctive flavor) with a bunch of other, unrelated flavors. I like my coffee straight up and black; occasionally with milk, on weekends.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like either of them! Water, please!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Did anyone else receive the "see Dinosaur Jr. for free" email from the Metro? They were giving away 100 pairs (pairs!) of free tickets and I was hoping to get some but I haven't heard back yet and I presume that the people in the alphabet before me snatched the tickets up first. I didn't receive the email until an hour after it was sent.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

NO! I would go see Dinosaur Jr. for free.

I like eggnog occasionally but I don't drink bastard flavored coffee.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

I guess they didn't sell out, huh? You should subscribe to the Metro newsletter -- they send out freebies when shows don't sell out.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

NOGGIN' IT.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

NOGGIN' IT OLD SCHOOL.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

NOGGIN' IT HARDCORE.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

I want a t-shirt that says "STRAIGHT NOGGIN' IT" on it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

COLD NOGGIN' IT SINCE '98

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

I would buy/wear that t-shirt.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

BA DA BA BA BAAA, I'M NOGGIN' IT

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

NOGGIN' TOUR '83

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Just to be clear, I don't usually BUY asshole coffees, but I do often wonder if they would bring me happiness.

Where's Jenny, I bet she would offer a dissenting opinion on this eggnog thing.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

They won't bring you happiness, Jordan. Only a deli sandwich can do that.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Ponys opening for Dino Jr. I didn't know about that free-ticket thing; I should get their newsletter.

Is it left to me to defend hazelnut coffee?

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

I want to see Dino Jr for gratis. But also I'm lazy and busy.

Last night I was superproductive by going grocery shopping and having band practice. Tonight I plan to hit up the gym and then be domestic. YES! Being domestic is on my To Do list (ie: making more handmade Christmas presents and maybe reading some too).

I like eggnog just fine, but only a wee bit of it. Mostly I love hot drinks.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

I would see Dinosaur Jr. for free any night of the week. But I would not wear my Dinosaur Jr. shirt with "Dinosaur Jr." written down the sleeve to the show.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

I am here, hating eggnog with a fiery passion.

Speaking of old school bands I like, I saw a poster advertising a Clutch show on Sunday. I've seen them like four times, but oh so long ago. I can't imagine them being anything other than old and fat now.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

I've been feeling some love for the Grifters lately. I liked them a lot back in el dia.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

I hate eggnog so much that I avoid things that are flavored with eggnog, including eggnog lattes.

However, I like flavored coffee just fine. I also like regular, nonflavored coffee. I just pretty much like coffee in all forms, really.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

I have a purple Dinosaur, Jr. baseball hat that I don't wear anywhere because it looks moronic on me.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

So I called Potential New Boss (PNB) last night and was all like "What up, bitch, why haven't you replied to my email?" and he was all like "Oh, I didn't get your email" and so I was all like, "Oh," and then he was all like "Here, I'll email you and then you can reply to that email" and I was all like "OK" so I resent him the email with my list of when I would get raises and hour increases and stuff and also asked him about benefits. So he emailed back last night affirming my understanding of how the pay and hours will work (so I have it in writing now) and a general outline of the benefits but said he would have to email me later with the specific benefits because he didn't have them in front of him at the time. So now I don't know if I should go ahead and accept the job or wait until I get the email with the benefit info. I am impatient and nervous about quitting (not really nervous, more like anxious and wanting to get it over with).

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - Why did they ever decide that purple was their signature color? Was that pre-Barney? It had to have been.

All of the job shifting around here is giving me the JOEMENTUM to get started on my new life.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, If you really want to try to go to one of the Dino Jr shows, we should hit up Hardb0iled, since they had the free Fall tix to the metro that time.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

I just got off the phone with one of my clients, and he told me what he's paying for this website. You can't believe it. $55,000. I can see why I need to call this guy every day.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yeeks! ...I was shocked (SHOCKED) when I discovered what we charged for one of our client's websites.... north of $150,000

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Holy shit.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

Yipes!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

Then again, that's rounding-error money for our client.

Take this word ("the") and this word ("ice") and put one of these after it (".com").

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Yay, Kenan! I'm glad you guys can pull together and make use of your talents.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, you have every right to know all the benefits before accepting the job. There are upsides/downsides to every job - if there are/aren't benefits to this job, he should be clear about it.

I worked at a financial boutique a while ago, and they were taking bids for their website - I had my friends (who were just starting a business but weren't doing any cold-calling) bid on it, and they bid very low and got the job. Trouble was that they were tied up with it for something like 6-12 months -- if you're talking three designers/programmers working on a site for that long, six figures isn't unreasonable - unfortunately, if I remember right, they bid in the mid-four-figures.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

(But the karmic end of the story is that one of the main partners at the boutique left to start a dot-com and hired my friends and kept them employed for a few years and also gave them options - and the company was sold two years ago and my friends made out very nicely. Moral of the story: not always about the up-front benjamins. Lesson two of the moral: one of these guys was hired to write for P1tchfork a while ago, around 2000, but there wasn't any money in it so he figured it wasn't worth the time.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

THAT cost $150k? That's insane. There's not much to it, even. It looks like every other website in the world.

Hey, this is a pretty good racket that I'm in!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

That icy site looks so much like the one I was just describing above - those financial guys love stock photography (guy in the suit surveying the land below from a skyscraper window, board meetings, etc.).

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

I just got offered a couple gigs in Minneapolis for the weekend after next, two days after I get back from my CA business trip. Hmmm. If I can take Maddie, get Galactic Pizza and make enough money to cover it all then I think I'll do it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

They DEMAND stock photogography. I have folders and folders of the stuff.

Good place to get it: http://sxc.hu/

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yay Jordan!!! Galactic!! The only thing that might disappoint is that the pizzas are not as gigantically large as most. But they are ginormous in deliciousness.

Should I send an email to the mpls lady that i'm interviewing with telling her "thanks" & "looking forward to meeting with you?" is that polite or overkill? if i'm going to get this job, i have to ROCK.

also, i just signed up for a retirement plan!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

I've been feeling some love for the Grifters lately. I liked them a lot back in el dia.

Funny -- there's an ILM thread going now about "obscure 90s indie bands" and someone mentioned the Grifters and someone else said "C'mon, they weren't all that obscure, they were reviewed in SPIN" and I thought well yes, that's true, I mean even I heard them, but then the original person said something about how they're barely remembered these days, the name means nothing to anyone, the kids don't know what the jazz is all about, and I said well yes, that's true as well.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus. Am I too old to get in on this doubleya doubleya doubleya thing?

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

(Not to go on about this dry business, but while $150K is a lot of money, the price becomes more reasonable when you think of all of the meetings and collaborating and compromises and revisions on every detail on that site, from the overall structure to that fancy map on the front page, in order to a site that the designers can leave behind after the launch but can still be updated and changed easily by the company. Any idea how long it took the team to work on this project?)

xpost - You Galactic fans should also give Pizza Luce a chance,

xpost - Here are some good ones: http://creative.gettyimages.com/source/classes/FrameSet.aspx?&UQR=iuqgzs&pk=4&source=front&lightboxView=1&txtSearch=office&brandID=41

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

also: DO NOT GET THE EGG NOG LATTES/MOCHAS/WHATEVERS. They are SERIOUSLY caloric & not worth it at all. I am not a huge fan of the nog, but I will sometimes have a small glass with my dad (w/ alcohol) once a year. This year, he bought me soy nog (thinner than regular nog but probably not worth buying unless you're a vegan who misses the nog).

y'all should check out the nutritional information (or don't) on starfucks. it's crazy. i seriously think the egg nog lattes have at least 400 calories.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsey will be amused to know that I mentioned Cornish in a Turtleneck on that ILM thread and right away two people were like "Oh yeah totally, great band" !!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Don't get me started on Luce's suck-ass pizza.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I wasn't THAT impressed w/it visually. I guess there's a LOT going on in the backend (like live market data/trading, etc.). And yes: these guys (the client) LOVE stock photography. LURVE it.

xpost they worked on it a LONG TIME. Lots of meetings in, like London and shit.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

(now I'm paranoid about discussing clients here...NDAs and shit)

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

nog is great stuff, but so thick and rich i tend to water it down with milk. i may well be a wuss though.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

Well, it's not the pizza's fault, it's the hype. Mpls people go on and on about the crrrazy pizzas at Luce and how good it is, and then I go there after a gig and they had like two kinds of pizza, both cold and boring. They need to check out some Ian's and see how it's done.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

Soy nog you say? Intriguing.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

I LOVE PIZZA LUCE. Cold!? Boring?! So good, even for the vegetarians!

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, did you buy a SLICE?

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, i didn't notice the backend stuff. (Hence the name "backend".) Yeah, I couldn't do that by myself.

But here's what I can do by myself:
1) stay home from work today
2) go to the convenience store, buy a bunch of frozen burritos
3) roll a joint
4) get lit up like a gotdamn christmas tree
5) play with flash all day. (Have you seen the Flash 8 video encoder? It's beautiful!)

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

...that sounds better than my job, K.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

It sounds better than having a job at all, and yet...

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

This is what Flash 8 compressed video looks like. Lightweight with amazing quality. Kicks the shit out of Quicktime.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, slice.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

I've had many slices of Pizza Luce, both the Lyndale Ave. location and the downtown location (but not Duluth!). I've burned my mouth on those slices! Give it another try, Jordan, please!

I love Pizza Luce so much that I requested them to be my MySpace friend.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

eric . . . have you eaten GALACTIC?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

I'll rep for Luce, too. The only time I had it and it wasn't very good was a single slice, which was old and cold. It didn't matter much because I was drunk and watching the Hold Steady play (at the Duluth locataion.)

xpost Also, Cosetta's was good back in the day. Haven't been there in a while though.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

I just remembered how much I used to go to the Twin Cities, and how much I wanted to move there for a while.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Slice doesn't do justice. You need to order a whole pizza. MADE TO ORDER WITH A GREAT MANY DELICIOUS INGREDIENTS.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

...I was just thinking the other day how much I'd like to live in Mpls. I like it there so much.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't realize you're a minnesota man, gib.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

everyone needs to come visit me in minneapolis when i move there, okay?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

I've got a few homies who've lived there a while that I've neglected to visit as of yet.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

I grew up in Mpls! Live in Kenwood until I was 8, and then moved to the country.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'll come vist you kels. In the middle of the winter, to remind myself that Chicago ain't so cold.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

I have not eaten Galactic! I look forward to sharing the experience with you in Minneapolis very soon, K.!

xpost - oh, Cosettas, man....

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Can I just say that I love Minneapolis? And I can't wait to call it home?

I love Minneapolis & I can't wait to call it home.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

I've been to Cosettas. Mama!

Mpls is, I humbly submit, the Jewel of the Middle Western States.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

"M-I-N N-E-A P-O-L-I-S"

sung to the tune of the Mickey Mouse Club theme

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe after kelsey moves there we can organize a mass CHILX road trip/wagon train and all go visit at once.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

Kel, can't wait to hang out with you up there. We all should - you can meet my Mpls posse.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

Twin Cities, they're double-teaming me!
sung to the tune of "Math is Money" by lftr pllr

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Wagon train? Aw man, that would be SO FUN.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

so what parts of the twin cities should i explore when i go up for the interview? leaf has to study a crazy amount & so i need to get out of his hair . . . please note that i lack any desire to trek up to the mall of america. thanks.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

please note that i lack any desire to trek up down to the mall of america. thanks.

(...may as well start learning now)

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

I was just talking about the Mall of America the other day with Aly$$a St0ne's brother Nate, who I think may still live in the area.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

ah geez. i screw up directional things all the time. it's all the same to me, really. perhaps this explains a lot.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

I'm really only familiar with Uptown and environs (I was 8!). The Wedge is a great little hood (home to Pizza Luce, yes?), but apparently it's north Mpls that's the hot shit these days.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

The Walker Art Museum is a good time, see if you can catch one of the free days. It's got a giant cherry on a spoon!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

Dinkytown, obv, and the West Bank.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

The Gopher Bar in St. Paul

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I'll give Luce another shot. One thing for their credit, I heard that the owner still has a job in a fucking auto factory, he works 8 hours a day there and then goes to manage his pizza stores!

I'm interested in fun Mpls things to do as well (preferably that don't involve spending much money), since it looks like this trip is going to happen.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Leaf lives a block from the Wedge!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

I like Lee's Liquor Lounge.

xpost !!! Great place.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

The spoon is awesome. Claes Oldenburg, yeah?

The last time I was in Mpls was nigh on 10 years ago. I'd like to go back. My parents have friends there: a divorced couple, one of whom's a painter and the other involved in theatre somehow. I'm not sure: I think she's done stuff at the Guthrie, but I can't tell you if she's acted or not. I do know that she was Jack Lemmon's personal driver for Grumpy Old Men.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.painetworks.com/photos/hz/hz0590.JPG
xpost I don't know who did it, but that's the museum in the background...

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

I have nothing to contribute to the Mpls discussion. :(

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

I was going to recommend the Hungry Mind bookstore, but it looks like it closed!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Leaf's in a good walking-around neighborhood, then - you could walk up Franklin over to Hennepin (where Lee's is, as well as Sebastian Joe's - great ice cream/coffee/etc. - or walk down Lyndale - great used/new indie music at Treehouse Records)...the area around Lake/Hennepin is fun.

I guess it's such a cold-weather city that I think of specific destinations more than neighborhoods to wander.

If you or Leaf has a car, I'd suggest driving along the bluffs in St. Paul...

Yeah, the Hungry Mind is closed - they became Ruminator Books for a while (sold the Hungry Mind name to a dot-com for good cash)...

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

(er, not Lee's - Liquor Lyle's, I mean!)

I think you would like the Red Dragon, across the street from the Wedge, if you want to drink in Mpls.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Uptown Theater....CLASSIC. Bryant Lake Bowl: a little cheez, but fun.

xpost OMG Sebastien Joe's. Now THAT was my summer-time jam as a kid. I used to live a block away!

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Which museum? I love museums, especially as a cheap way to kill an afternoon in a foreign city.

xpost, I like Red Dragon.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

I've already done the area around Leaf, I kinda want to wander farther out . . . plus, I'm going to have 6-8 hours to kill. Last night I looked up knitting stores b/c I figured that they would have to be in bustling neighborhoods because, c'mon, it's yarn for god's sake.

And yes, the spoon is an Oldenburg.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Copied from a friend's top 10 Mlps/St.Paul list (note some already suggested):

1) Walker Art Center and Sculpture Garden – It’s a cherry on a spoon and it’s HUGE

2) Chain of Lakes – four lakes all chained together. Walk, bike, canoe, kayak, swim, lounge, grill, ice skate, ski, or sail. Also included are a pretty band shell, rose garden, Japanese garden, bird watching sanctuary, and dog park.

3) First Ave – “legendary” rock club. I don’t know how legendary it is outside of the Twin Cities though. Prince shot Purple Rain here. No, he does not nor ever did own it. He owned a club around the corner.

4) Xcel Energy Center – Best hockey rink in the NHL

5) Bryant Lake Bowl – Theater, bowling alley, bar, and restaurant all rolled into one.

6) Eat Street – One of the best things about the twin cities is the restaurant scene. This is probably one of the more well known areas to eat but certainly not the only one. It runs from down town on Nicollet Ave until Nicollet Temporarily ends at the back of K Mart. Don’t miss the Black Forest Inn’s beer garden if it’s summer time.

7) Bar Scene – CC Club, Triple Rock, Bulldog, Grumpy’s (Nord East), Lyle’s, Uptowner, Turf Club, Nye’s, Gopher Bar, Country Bar, and Britt’s (if only for the lawn bowling) all come recommended.

8) Minnehaha Falls – It’s a park. With a waterfall. You can follow the creek all the way down to the Mississippi for a great view that most people skip out on.

9) Grain Belt Brewery – This probably wouldn’t be on most Twin Citians’ top ten but this is MY top ten. They don’t make beer here any more but the architecture is really wonderful. There’s also a small park to hang out on the lot. It’s currently an architecture firm where my friend Derrick’s father in law works. There’s been talk of getting a tour.

10) Big Stone Mini Golf and Sculpture Garden – This one required going out to the suburbs, which I’m rarely in favor of. I will make an exception for this sweet mini golf course. It’s on a farm owned by an artist. He/She has created several mini golf holes out of works of his/her art. I think there were 12 holes the last time I was there with plans to make a full 18. It’s definitely worth the drive. And the drive is at least a pretty one, you get to weave around beautiful Lake Minnetonka (no jokes, please).

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsey, it's too bad we won't be killing time in Mpls on the weekend!

(you're going this weekend, right?)

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

next weekend, actually. apparently c4n4st4 may be there as well!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

That's the greenhouse in the Walker's sculpture garden in the background of that photo (the scupture garden is free even when the Walker isn't).

The Mpls Art Institute is, I think, free admission all the time - a little like Chicago's as far as spanning eras/cultures, including this Caillebotte: http://www.arts-studio.com/shopinfo/uploads/1110034031_large-image_131_nude_on_a_couch_188082_lg.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, but the Walker is free on the first Saturday of each month, so it should be free this Sat.!

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

You mean the weekend of the 9th? Well shit, we're all going to be in Mpls!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Yes! The weekend of the 9th!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

(I meant Lyle's)

First Ave is def legendary -- 90% of the concerts I saw in high school were there. I thought it was pretty well known outside of the Twin Cities?

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Me too.

Anyone been to the Fine Line Music Cafe? It looks like I'll be gigging there and at the Cabooze.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

I've been to the Fine Line! My best friend's mom used to manage it. So, uh, it's been like 12 yrs or so.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

The Fine Line was built in the 80s and is a little slick (not in a bad way) - it's a good venue for seeing bands and playing, and the sound's really good. The Cabooze is more a good-time blues bar, but I've always had fun there.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

When I was 21 (and she was about the same), I ditched seeing my friends' band play to go see/meet Allison Krauss at the Fine Line...

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

I've been to the Cabooze... aren't those places right next door to each other, or at least close?

The Cabooze was all right, but a little bit too much of the college hippie vibe for me. Then again, we were there on a night when a reggae band was playing!

xpost

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

I've played at the Cabooze a couple times. For some reason my band has never played very well there, but I've had fun hanging out.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, the bikers must not have been there that night, Dan!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

The Fine Line is downtown - The Cabooze is on the West Bank (near the 400 Bar, etc.). My memories of the cabooze involve walking across that giant open parking lot in subzero weather, but having a good time when I got there.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Now that you mention it there was a guy in the street outside burning the back tire of a large Ducati when we got out of the place. Then he took off down the street, helmetless. This was in December, by the way.

Xpost

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

Thoughts on this album cover? I like it.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000B0WOC6.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Ugh, I think it's really ugly! There are so many things wrong with it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

1. Nostril shot
2. Dumb fonts
3. Flowers look photoshopped
4. Stupid purple bars framing picture
5. Photo of artist as album cover
6. Intrusive record label logo

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

It looks worse than my turkey club wrap just tasted, which is pretty bad.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

It reminds me of a 1960s exotica record, with that tiki font.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Well, Nick pretty much covered everything I could come up with.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

A better nostril shot than this, anyway:

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00009OOH9.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

(John, I'll YSI you the Fiona mix when I get a chance)

(which may not be soon)

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

How about this cover?

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7617/600/1600/4988005337863.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

The only thing I don't like is that the flowers make it seem too dense and disorienting, maybe. Could've gone simpler, with just the purple bars.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

I like that she's a pianist posing with a cello.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't even notice the cello!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, are we playing free-associative cover connections?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Here's another nostril album:

http://i19.ebayimg.com/03/c/00/c1/ca/11_7.JPG

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

The implication of "don't worry your pretty little head over it" with her pretty, worried-looking head is a little too whack-me-on-the-head-with-"cleverness" for me. It's corny and not that clever. I wish she would stop trying to be so clever.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

I wondered about the cello too.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

I think cleverness is her metier.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

Part of the reason why I posted this is because I remembered that CHILXors had strong opinions about McKay, from yay to nay.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

It's good to have that Liz Phair cover to compare and contrast, as far as marketing a major-label gal. The Nellie cover has some of the Cindy Sherman, don't-take-this-at-face-value to it, which sets her apart from any other gal on a major that I can think of. (Liz P. has the I-Am-Shelby-Lynn/Nelly-Furtado style of libteration through unabashed commercialism; Norah Jones and Diana Krall are just here's-a-beautiful-picture-to-relax-with; um...).

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

I know nothing about McKay.

I heard an interview on NPR with Liz Phair on Sunday, driving to the airport to pick up Sarah. She came across as...kind of dumb (though to be fair, the questions were pretty dumb too), and the song she played off her new album was AWFUL. She also played one off of "Whitechocolatespaceegg" that was better but she's such a SINGER now, with all these repeated syllables and no charm at all in her voice. Made me sad.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, are we playing free-associative cover connections?

Apparently. I just wanted to continue the progression of nudity.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, but of course I forgot http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00063MCKW.01._PE7_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah got the Ditty Bops album a while back. I like a couple of the songs but for the most part it's way too precocious (or do I mean precious?) for me.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

I think you mean precious, unless they're very young, in which case you mean precocious.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of Sarah, where's Sarah?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't there a nursery rhyme with "precocious" in it?

I don't like that McKay album cover, though the flowers were my favorite part. I do like all the colors too. It makes it all more cheerful.

xpost - Here I am! I've been really busy lately at work. Weird, huh?

― Sarah Precocious McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

I think what they were going for on the Nellie McKay cover is a cheeze-retro feel, like a lost, crappy record you find in your parents' collection. But I think they messed that up, too. Nick is right. That's ugly.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

I thought so too, Commander Keen.

If anyone wants to see some pix from my Thanksgiving trip, they are up on my flickr page.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

My idea: if you're going to go retro, steal it. Have her do a reenactment of an old Petula Clark record cover or something, and then call it an "homage."

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

Why don't we see more reenactments of this classic?
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002GA9.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000003740.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

I knew you were gonna post that! I almost did, but it's been done a thousand times, like didn't Soul Asylum do it?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

I meant the Herb Alpert, not SK.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00005NHNZ.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

I had no idea until he was voted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame that Herb Alpert was the A behind A&M Records.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

You learn somethin' new every day.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't know that either!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

If I wasn't already a Nellie McKay fan, I don't think the new cover would get me interested on its own. The first cover is better. (But as we talked about last time she came up, I like her live solo performances more than the produced record (the new cover design kind of indicates, as Kenan says, kind of a split between being retro and not, and that's how the first record sounded).

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Something I wish you still saw: all the song titles listed on the front of the record cover, but not in the order they appear on the album.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Or "The Best Of Johnny Cash featuring RING OF FIRE and ten other songs you've never heard of!"

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

I was about to post some of those, K., but I thought they would be too digressive! (OK, I'm pasting these two that I almost pasted a few minutes ago, and then I'm off working for a few hours.)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0008JII2U.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000002MH7.01._PE8_SCMZZZZZZZ

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Ugh, I'm such an amateur, gonna try that again -
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002MH7.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0008JII2U.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

I had this dream last night where I was at a college, and I went to a concert that was in like a college building, but at the same time I was trying to read this book, and the first act of the concert was some R&B singer who seemed really shy and Lil' Bow Wow, whose rapping was really GANGSTA for some reason, but I was trying to concentrate on my book, and when they were done the sound guy came on the PA and berated the audience for not paying attention, saying that if we didn't pay attention the acts wouldn't get paid. The next act was a woman wearing a swim suit, and she had a lower half that was WAY fatter than her upper half, to the point of being grotesque, but then she put on this artificial fat suit thing on her torso so that she was proportionally fat all over. Her act was doing a not-very-thrilling synchronized swimming routine in a large tub, and for parts of the dream, I was the woman swimming around in the tub. That's all I remember.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

I have that Herb Alpert record! My old college roommate and I used to get high and dance around our dorm room to HA&tTB. Also to Bongwater, which was more difficult.

Kelsy, do those caloric counts on the lattes include whipped cream? I've got a gingerbread latte (skim, no whip) here and it's... okay. She put a lot of spice on it and it kind of tastes like a magic marker. In a bad way.

xpost: Nick, make sure your PNJ includes therapy...

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Your calories for that drink are: 290

Whipped cream adds an additional 100 calories!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

That's too many calories for a drink that tastes like magic markers!

Oh well. Back to Americanos.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, for the last time... no pie before bed.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Jenny! I still don't really know what's going on with that job! It's making me annoyed! And making me wonder if dude is going to be incommunicative if I take a job there! I emailed him to be like "You said you were going to get more info to me this morning and I haven't heard anything and I know we had email problems before so I just want to make sure you hadn't tried to email me" and now I'm wondering if I'm coming off as desperate or crazy! But I just hate not knowing what's going on! And I want to quit my job!

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

That was calories for the "grande" size, by the way.

For a grande eggnog latte: 510 calories!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Also hi to kelsey and Kenan! Hi! Hi! I actually ate ice cream before bed! Cherry Garcia! And I slept weird, probably from too much sugar before bed!

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - WHOA. That's like a meal.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

told ya.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

i ate a lot of monchego cheese last night. i think i spelled that wrong. looking up nutritional information is kind of addictive. and probably a little sad.

xpost: hi nick!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

eggnog IS a meal. It's what you eat at christmas parties instead of the tray of cookies and baby carrots.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

i sadly look up nutritional information too. it's my new form of bargain hunting now that thrift stores are full of unwearable crap.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

You're not coming across as crazy, Nick. It's unreasonable for this person to expect you to make a decision without knowing the things you want to know!

It's possible this guy is busy, or bad with email, and it's only been two days and I don't know that this is an omen of things to come. I'm sure your desire to tell that foundation where to shove their headaches is making time draaaaaaaaaaag. Much as how the fact that I am in my very last evidence class ever and haven't had lunch is making this hour and fifteen minutes drag along like fucking dental work.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, an Americano has 15 calories in it. 15! For a grande!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

I ate SO MUCH DELICIOUS CHEESE at Jeff and Jenny's house. And also some gross cheese that Jesse brought over. I love cheese.

Reason no. 55555 why I am ready to quit this job: the prank phone calls. The name of the organization just invites lame prank calls. I just got another one. They don't even try to be funny, I wouldn't mind that. They just yell shit and laugh and hang up.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

The [mod edit] seems ripe for the Jerky Boys treatment.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

if i wasn't swamped at work, i'd totally prank call you just to chat.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.sillyjokes.co.uk/images/wacky/props/weapons/nail-through-head.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to call and play "The Guy Who Got a Headache and Accidentally Saved the World" into the phone and it will be so funny I will pee!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

ew.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

i keep reading the title of this thread as "electric larry land" or whatever that butthole surfers album was, so that nail in the head is sorta close to what's been brewing in this ol' head of mine.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Is that a real song title, Jenny? Sounds made up.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

"The Man Who Ripped His Trousers and Ran All The Way From Kensington Station Singing 'FaLaLaLaLa'"

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

"The Girl Who Tripped Over A Pine Cone and Discovered Caverns Full Of Nestle Quik"

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

FYI, I'm asking the mods to delete the complete name of my employer in this thread, so don't be freaked out when it disappears. I'd prefer not to have it in here, the boss periodically googles the company name.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

It's by the Flaming Lips off Clouds Taste Metallic.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002MYC.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, Nick. Here, accept my apologies:

http://www.packagemuseum.com/exhibits/nestles02/nestles02.JPG

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

I want to write all the songs you are naming, Kenan.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, you really work for the Nat10nal H3adach3 F0undat10n? I didn't realize there was such a thing. Something something new every day.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

These days when the boss isn't here and I do nothing but fool around online all day always make me kind of depressed and antsy. Now I'm paranoid about everything too.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Remember trying to stir Quik into cold milk? And how could never quite do it, and there were always these little bubbles full of Quik powder, but that was ok because those were delicious, too? Man, those were the days. It seems like the world has changed so much since the introduction of Strawberry Quik, and not for the better.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Also, remember when things came in metal containers?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I used to LOVE metal band-aid boxes. And those little strings you pull to open the band-aid too.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

Thinking that his head surely will explode, his thoughts go deeper than ever. And he's on the way to a real first in all the universe. He saves the day and the world knows the sonic boom explodes.

OH YEAH! YEAH! YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

what is that dime doing there? size comparison?

oooh! the strings!! yes!

i actually grew quite fond of strawberry quik back in the day. back in the day when SWITZER ruled the licorice land!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

I liked strawberry Quik too.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

Dude finally emailed to say he is meeting with benefits person this afternoon and wants to talk on the phone with me between 5:30 and 6:30 which is when Sarah and I were going to the gym and in the stupid state of mind I'm in this seems like an insurmountable obstacle. asjklddddddddddddddddddddweiorfh

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

The gym can wait! You can go anytime.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to Nick: Hush. No, it's good. Talk to him on the phone. This way you can ask questions and get immediate responses. He's really trying to get all the answers you want and this is a good sign.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

We can't go anytime, we haven't gone in more than a week and this week is already all planned out. I'm just being difficult, I know. I need a nap.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

(Nick, you will come across as a true Alpha male if you negotiate your benefits whilst on the treadmill.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Somebody fix Nick a sleepy drink. Or just knock him out until 5:30.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, and while you're doing that, pretend you're talking to your banker at the same time too: "BUY! SELL! BUY BUY BUY!"

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Make sure to throw in something about your yacht and your giant penis, ie:

"So what kind of retirement plan is included here? BUY SELL BUY BUY! Excuse me, I'm trying to increase my investment return so I can buy a bigger yacht, since my GIANT PENIS won't fit on the one I currently own."

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

I'd play down the giant penis . . . you don't want to tread on the delicate path of male insecurity. You'll never get hired if your boss is feeling threatened.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, it's all about being a threat! Remember, Nick: unless you hang up mid-conversation and get him to call you back, groveling, you just aren't negotiating the best possible deal.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

Wait...who told you guys about my giant penis?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

It's just common knowledge, man. I hear about it on the El, at Starbucks, on Fox news...

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

And in keeping with Eazy's rationale, remember to have it OUT when you go in to fill out your W-2s and 1-9 form. Gesture with it.

"Is THIS *gesture* where I'll be sitting?"

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

I heard you had your favorite Walt Whitman couplet tattooed there.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

Well, the laser that emanates from the tip should help with that.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

I heard that you and your band have sold your giant penises and bought turntables.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

The Big Dictions?

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

OK OK back to work back to work

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

I heard that your penis has a compilation of every good song ever done by anybody.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

THE SLITS!

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

STEELY DAN

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

10CC

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

PEARL JAM

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

You guys are out of hand.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

two in the hand is worth one in the bush!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

Hole! Bush!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

THE STROKES

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

WANG CHUNG

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

ANTONY AND THE JOHNSONS

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

10 Ft. POLE

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

Well, the laser that emanates from the tip should help with that.

Most embarrassing X-Man power EVER. "You have to help me Doctor X! I don't know how to control it!"

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

I heard that your penis has a compilation of every good song ever done by anybody.

...your dick has an internet connection?!?!!!?!!?111

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently, its own zip code as well.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

and it's own private stash of belgium chocolate.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't mean for that to be gross.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00007E8J1.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

One of my professors from last year (the evil bitch from hell one) just referred to me as "that hippy." Now, I'm not insulted by this, but I do think it's funny when people have so little exposure to folks with world views that differ from theirs that they automatically term anyone with a liberal view a "hippy."

You don't know the half of it, sister.

xpost: Kelsey's comment wasn't gross but John's post made it nasty.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's fair to label anyone who uses a netti pot a hippy.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

i used mine this morning!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

Heh. You ought to refer to her as "that evil bitch from hell" and see how well that goes over. I would at least... then again, I probably would have been insulted by being called a "hippy" by an instructor, too.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

I do think it's funny when people have so little exposure to folks with world views that differ from theirs that they automatically term anyone with a liberal view a "hippy."

Or when people like my FBI agent neighbor start expounding on "rap music."

...anyone remember nabisco's post on David Brooks? It neatly sums up this sort of person. Incidentally, it was also relentlessly, unflaggingly, never-giving-uppingly OTM.

xpost n/a is correct.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

Being that OTM should come with an annual salary.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

She is unfamiliar with my nasal irrigation habits, so while you may be right, that had no weight in her calculus.

HEY remember that time I was in the lounge and there was this annoying dude there who kept talking about how his parents were rich but he wasn't and he whispered "african americans" when he was talking about an event, in a very black Debbie kind of way? He's back!

Where is Nabisco's post on David Brooks? I don't even know who that is.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

Whoops, my small tags didn't work and now it looks like I'm being rude and not capitalizing "African Americans" or "Black" when used to denote race, which I totally normally would, as per my hippy rule book.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

That reminds me of "...black Debbie?"

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm neither proud nor embarrassed of this, but no one has ever called me a hippie, that I know of. And I have performed nasal irrigation!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

Sans neti pot!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

David Brooks is a commentator/journalist, afaik. Whenever he would show up on News Hour my mother would fly into a fit of rage.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know who David Brooks is either.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

You capitalize Black??

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

That reminds me of "...black Debbie?"
-- n/a (nu...), November 29th, 2005 3:30 PM. (Nick A.)

...in a very black Debbie kind of way?
-- pullapartgirl (rabbitrabbi...), November 29th, 2005 3:27 PM. (pullapartgirl)

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

David Brooks = most famous, probably, for writing Bobos in Paradise, about the cultural/consumption habits of the upper middle class. Also appears, as Dan says, on News Hour as a foil to Mark Shields. And for the last couple of years has been the token neo-con on the New York Times editorial page.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

(I don't know who Black Debbie is. This is all very confusing.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: Not all the time. Just... when my internal capitalization compass tells me to. Like today when I wrote "Black American" shortly after I wrote "Jamacain American" because I was trying to differentiate between actually immigranted from Africa African Americans versus US-born people who are also black.

There. See?

The "Black" Debbie thing is from a Sealab 2021 episode.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

Immigranted?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

I couldn't find any working picture links for Black Debbie (from Sealab 2021), so here is a picture of Debbie Black, high school French teacher:

http://www.ed.uiuc.edu/courses/satex/sp96/Debbie-Black/Debbie-Black.GIF

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

I found out that one of my gigs in Mpls is going to be a PRINCE TRIBUTE.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

I used to like Brooks, or at least get a chuckle from his sociocultural observations, until I realized how wrong he often is (cf. the recent column where he blames hip-hop for the Paris riots). He gets away with a lot by adopting this chummy tone about what "we" do, which has the effect of endearing himself to liberals (like, ahem, my dad). "We blue-staters listen to NPR," he says, "while people in the red states watch NASCAR." Then he goes back to the Weekly Standard and defends Bush.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

(Nick - One more benefits-negotiation tip - don't use 'BLOOPER!' too early in the conversation - you may need it later, and the surprise will be gone.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't know who Black Debbie was either. Or Debbie Black. Or anyone with the initials DB or BD.

Except for David Berman, I know him.

David Brooks sounds like the sort of NPR listener who thinks he invented bluegrass, jazz and helping people.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

http://www2.ups.edu/dsa/photoalbum/BD_Wong/BD_Wong.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:44 (nineteen years ago)

Brooks:

http://www.politicalfriendster.com/images/1957.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

BD Wong rules, I love BD Wong. There's a poster on the wall of our video store for some terrible-looking kids movie about a seal or sea lion and BD Wong is in it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure I could tell you anything he has been in.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

Is he in the band Chicago?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

Here's Black Jesus, which I found after doing a GIS for "Sealab 2021," oddly enough.

http://art-barn.com/josh/122404_blackjesus.jpg

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

Predictably, I've never heard of him either.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm trying to find nabisco's post...it's from that paris/hip-hop thread that resulted from Brooks' inane column.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

I think BD Wong was in some significant 80s teen comedies or something.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

BD Wong was on OZ and is now on the Law & Order shows, mostly on SVU. He's the sensitive psychologist on L&O. He was also in some famous play, I want to say Madame Butterfly or something about transvestites but I don't really know.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

B.D. Wong won the Tony for 'M. Butterfly' on Broadway in 1988 (weirdly, I saw that show with Chr1stopher Durang long ago) - he's worked consistently in movies since then but stands out much more as a stage actor.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, you saw it WITH C. Durang? As in accompanied by him?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I just found that out via google. Apparently the director was the one who requested that he use the name "BD" Wong because he didn't want the audience to know that the actor was a man.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah - he and two of us young playwrights went to see it.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm, that's interesting (to both of you!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

Two photos of Debbie Love, aka "black" Debbie here: http://images.google.com/images?q=debbie+love+sealab&btnG=Search&svnum=10&hs=9kC&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

This is the day of people talking about people and places I absolutely do not recognize. (And maybe should?)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

Except for Herb Alpert. I know and love him.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

But I love Brooks for precisely that! He's so dopey and well-meaning and has all these dad-like theories about bobos and French rap -- he's earnest informed suburban-guy extraordinaire, and I get a huge kick out of imagining him hanging out at the grill with Richard Roeper, talking about new mp3 players. And so most importantly I love the fact that he is constantly and continually being wrong and then getting totally owned on it, even going so far here as to give music critics a chance to sit up and reclaim "our" territory. I mean, the highlight of the last election, so far as I was concerned, was watching the PBS coverage with Brooks and Mark Shields, which consisted mostly of eager gopher-like Brooks getting all excited and earnest about some theory or interpretation he had, and then schlumpy cranky-looking Shields basically going "dude, what the hell are you talking about?" and taking him apart, and then Brooks looking all sad and defeated in that "geez, guys, I was only saying" kinda way. The guy is quality entertainment, the mostly lovable always-doofy always-wrong suburban dad in the Op-Ed universe (and how great is it that he always tries to drop the stuff he might actually know about and swing out into culture, the place where he sounds more clueless-doofy-dad than anywhere?).

-- nabisco (--...), November 11th, 2005 12:01 PM. (nabisco) (link)

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

he's earnest informed suburban-guy extraordinaire, and I get a huge kick out of imagining him hanging out at the grill with Richard Roeper, talking about new mp3 players.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

He totally invented bluegrass AND jazz.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently, BD Wong was also slated to do a one-man show about the birth of aviation, entitled "Two Wrights Make a Wong."

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, that's perfect, what Nabisco said - it'll be easier to stomach Brooks on Iraq and Bush with that in mind...

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

giboyeux RELENTLESSLY OTM.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

Oh lordy, the guy who wants to hire me tried to make a joke:

Nick,

Forgot to mention stocked refrigerators (drinks, yogurt), snacks and
fruit - and 60 feet of windows where you can see morning sky light up -
all complimentary -:}

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

"Plums? What about plums? I want plums."

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

What's with the creepy Grinch smile?

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

That's nothing like my evil former professor, though, who is neither lovable nor doofy, but more like a poisonous snake who is whip smart about grammar and law but hideously ill-informed about life in general and has so sequestered herself into the world of things about which she is whip smart out of fear and distrust of everything else that she cannot even fathom how wrong she is about everything else. Including her taste in clothing, which runs towards ultra-conservative Talbots suits with jackets that don't quite button over her incongruously (and for her, probably embarassingly) large breasts.

xpost to Nick: Whoa, that guy really wants to hire you.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

i think it's kinda sweet. like he's trying to convince you to work there!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's sweet too. Joking aside, free fruit's pretty sweet.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to demand tapenade.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

free fruit's pretty sweet.

sweeter than pay fruit?

WHAMMO!

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

No, it's pronounced "BLOOPER!"

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder which has a better chance of catching on: BLOOPER or NOGGIN' IT?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

NOGGIN' IT. 'Tis the season, etc.

I'm trying to get the guys in my office to design a t-shirt!

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

Free yogurt, too!

Of course, my employee benefits professor would encourage you to look at that yogurt not as employer gratuity, but as an alternative form of compensation.

As in, "I make $35k/year in cash, $1,750 in employer 401K contributions, $6000 in employer provided health benefits, and $150 in yogurt at my new job, for a total yearly compensation packagage of $42,900."

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

I still want mine to say "STRAIGHT NOGGIN' IT" though. Preferably in Olde English font.

I don't even like yogurt.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe he could be persuaded to provide pudding instead of yogurt.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

Don't press your luck.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

Which, to bring it full circle to Keenan, can be why getting paid what looks like an assload of money to design a web page can in all actuality be a lot less money, once you figure taxes and subcontracting and business expenses for things from computer software to electricity to freaking toilet paper. Plus, no compensatory yogurt.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

(Nick - One more benefits-negotiation tip - don't use 'BLOOPER!' too early in the conversation - you may need it later, and the surprise will be gone.)
HA! Eric, You KILL ME!

I think this potential employer looked in our fridge. Little does he realize that I AM THE ONE WHO LOVES FRUIT AND YOGURT! Bwah ah ha!

I am crazy. Work is work these days. Nick, are we going to the gym? I don't want to go change into my Sporty Spice outfit to just go home.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know about that, Jenny. The free juice vending machines at my work are all well and good for dazzling the interviewees, but they're not putting catfood in the bowl.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Sarah, I thought we agreed we were going to the gym and I would call dude from your cell phone. Then if I still have time, I'll work out too. Or maybe I'll just be lazy and go to Barnes and Noble.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

And drink a noglatte?

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

You're right, Jordan - non-cash compensation isn't always practical, but it's still part of a compensation package. Whether or not it's an attractive part depends on how much cat food you need to buy and whether you like yogurt.

So if you are offered a job with the benefits I outlined above, or a job with the same benefits except $150 more in cash and no yogurt, you'd take the second one. As another example, (good) free coffee at the software company where I used to work was an actual monetary benefit for me, because I never had to buy or make coffee myself. I just drank it at work. If I figured out how much a year I spend on Americanos, lattes, and Dunkin' Donuts brew, not to mention the coffee I buy to make at home, I probably got quite a deal from those jerks.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

The money I saved on coffee (or the money that Nick will save on fruit or snacks at work) can then be put into the cats' bowls. See?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I should ask if they have coffee, esp. because I'm not going to be grinding beans for our French press at 5:15 AM.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

This woman I used to work with at the bank kept a French press in her desk in her cube. She was kind of nuts, though. But for many MANY more reasons than her penchant for French press coffee.

For one, she often wore semi-formal gown type dresses to work as an on-line banking phone support person.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome. Hey, I should ask about dress code, maybe I won't have to wear slacks anymore. Stupid slacks.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

You can wear your semi-formal gown type dresses! It will be more comfortable for your GIANT PENIS.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, this better not mean you've been cheating on me.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

Behold! It's time for my magical SPORTY SPICE transformation! (but not before your very eyes, as I will be doing this in the handicap stall in the bathroom).

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

Do you have cute workout gear? I always wanted some, but never feel justified in spending the $$. I do have some cut up t-shirts that make me feel all punk rock aerobics and stuff, though.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, this better not mean you've been cheating on me.
-- Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (x77tigersxu...), November 29th, 2005 4:30 PM. (coco) (later)

I'm not sure what this is referring to?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

True.

We have free coffee here too, but I still buy coffee half the time because I don't want to deal with people making weak-ass coffee or not making coffee. It's also disturbing that the coffee machines run all day and, as far as I can tell, never get washed out.

xposts

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

drinking the crap work coffee makes me really appreciate a fine cup of coffee. it's a way i keep myself from getting "soft" in my old age.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

doooooods guess who's going to see Dino Jr fo' free tonight!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

leaf would be so jealous!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

The President?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

Probably you are, I bet!

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

ME. And Dan.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

I saw Spoon for free in a similar manner.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

So exciting! I'm so excited!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

Congrats, Amanda. Tonight I am going to the gym but not working out, then going home, being fat, and probably reading and/or playing video games or watching AMERICA'S NEXT TOP MODEL with Sarah.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

You should know that it's a really good episode, so you won't be disappointed. Also, I apologize for gloating. I've won one other thing in my life: an embroidered pillow.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I'm skipping the gym in favor of ROCK.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

Crack cocaine?

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

Are Jaymc or n/a still here?

Need to ask a favor.

― Corcoran (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Adam.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I'm here.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

Check yr email.

― Corcoran (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

thank you.

― Corcoran (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

Have fun, Amanda! Tell Jay I said hello!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Adam. I would still like to know about grime very much.

― giboyeux (skowly), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

WHY AM I STILL AT WORK DUDES?

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:02 (nineteen years ago)

You didn't have the excuse to leave that I had. My head still hurts.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.goodka.com/Images/disques/breakstreet2_moyen.jpg

― brock gannon (el topo), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 00:45 (nineteen years ago)

also
http://www.howardamb.com/dowloadMP3IMGs/fembots2.jpg

― brock gannon (el topo), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

and of course
http://www.geocities.com/austinpowers741/austin-fembots.jpg

― brock gannon (el topo), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 01:46 (nineteen years ago)

hi brian :)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 01:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.die-ritze.com/suspiria/suspiria5.jpg

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

NOT WARM OUTSIDE.

JEEPERS!

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 02:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.critcononline.com/images/macabra2.jpg

― literalisp (literalisp), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 02:35 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, hey guys.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

Manana.

Nick, I was joking about the you cheating on me bit because everyone was discussing the size of your genitals and I was like HEEEEY!!!! How do they know about that?! I didn't say anything!

The end of last night's repeat ANTM left me feeling hollow inside. WHY, God, WHY?! It was just so...unexpected (even though I'd read the spoiler on the official site).

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry I wasn't around to help Adam. :(

Approx. 1.5 hours until I quit my job. A little nervous, not too much at this point.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Sweet.

I should have gone back to work last night, didn't. So I came in as early as I could this morning, which means frosted strawberry poptarts out of the vending machine instead of breakfast.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

frozen terror... hahahaha

i love the way the head is clearly only in the refrigerator.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

I had frosted cinnamon poptarts, but they were toasted. Also, I had coffee which was mostly espresso with lots of sugar and no cream and I was crazy this morning.

Nick realized this morning that once his new job starts, we won't have our hanging out at the kitchen table moments in the morning any more. :-(

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

You can still hang out at the kitchen table at night?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

I had a weird breakfast: cream of wheat, two vegetarian sausage links, black liccorice, and Irish breakfast tea.

I know what you mean about those little quiet moments, Sarah. They are nice.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

WHY, God, WHY?!
I know! Can you believe they let her stay after that behavior? Atrocious.

Oh, and I'm deaf. The show was really good -- predictably they played J-Lou-Murph stuff but for some reason they also played The Wagon, from Green Mind and I was reminded how great that album is. Dammit, I love that song. We left at 11 and there was probably an encore, but Dan was falling asleep on his feet so I took him home. It was WAAAAY better seeing them in a smoky, dark club than under a blazing hot 100 degree sun.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

I miss breakfast moments too. They have been replaced by late-evening snack moments.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Yeah, except this morning they weren't so quiet because I was high on the COCAINE!!! (I mean, caffeine).

We rarely hang out at the table at night because we eat on the couch in front of the TV. Whenever I ask Nick to eat with me at the table traditional stylee he gets this look on his face like he's being punished.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

aww. i'm sorry to hear about the kitchen table moments. things like that are some of my favorite things. i can't wait to have it with leaf again.

Speaking of cocaine:

last night i dreamt that jenny & jeff wanted to go to a bar & so a few of us (i think john & amanda, maybe?) went out with them. john & amanda didn't have a ride & so i took them on my bike . . . my bike from around 5th grade. amanda shared the banana seat with me (but facing the other way) & john rode on the basket. we meet up at this bar near my neighborhood that i've never been to before (fireside i think it's called? the one on ravenswood) & rachel & a few other folks are there. i am completely excited b/c i've been wanting to check this bar out & jenny gives me this look like, "just you wait, sister." we all go in & soon jeff & jenny are in this dark corner doing cocaine. it's suddenly clear to me that this is a bar where a LOT of people are doing cocaine. Rachel gets upset & leaves. John leaves. Amanda leaves. I give Jeff & Jenny a ride home (in a car this time?) & once I drop them off, they're already talking about going back, so I give them a ride back (feeling guilty about supporting their drug habit). I stick around the bar for a bit longer & then ask if they can just get home by themselves. Yes, they can & so I pedal away. Jeff & Jenny are scary people on cocaine. In my dream they probably just acted like weird drunks, but uncomfortable just the same.

The End.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

I read yesterday that Living Colour are playing at this tiny-ass club in Milwaukee. I'm not a fan exactly, but it would be surreal to see them in such a small space. Especially if dude is still rocking the spandex bodysuits.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Hahhahaa. The bike! Scary cocaine bars - eek!

Spandex bodysuits -- EEEEEEK!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

This is obviously a dream about Jeff and Jenny being a bad influence, because Jeff and Jenny drink a lot, and Kelsey... well, we all know Kelsey is pure as the driven snow.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

it's suddenly clear to me that this is a bar where a LOT of people are doing cocaine.

I think I've been to that place! It was a little different, though... everybody was gay.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Can't anyone see that Jordan is asking for help? He's considering going to see Living Colour -- that's c-o-l-o-u-r. Help this man! Jordan, if you need to talk about it, I'm on AIM.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

What's wrong with Living Colour? They made a kick-ass album once.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

I know. I'm kidding. One of my friends in high school had this boyfriend who LOVED LC and we hated him, so we would always call him the glamour boy and then remind ourselves that HE'S FIERCE. It was funny at the time. Not so much now.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

LIKE JOSEPH STALIN

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

No one named Vernon has ever rocked so hard.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

AND GANDHI

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

I was thinking the other day that I want Fine Young Cannibals to do a reunion tour. Remember? Remember? Oh, how could you forget. I LOVE that album. Got it on my computer as we speak.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Can we please stop pretending that Living Colour don't suck really really hard? I had their post-hit album, "Stain," on tape and it came in a see-thru red cassette case. And it sucked really hard.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, according to allmusic, the Fine Young Cannibals never officially broke up! So you still have a chance.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, really? That's the best news I've heard all week!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

A song that shouldn't be from 1989.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

The aforementioned loathsome boyfriend-of-my-friend gave my friend a cassette copy of the LC album with "Cult of Personality" on it and on the other side was a mix he made her with tons of Simon and Garfunkel songs. The juxtaposition made me think about bad choices I made when I would copy tapes or CDs from the library and put horribly incongruous albums on two sides of the same tape.

To whit: Carl Perkins and Husker Du. The Church and Jane's Addiction. Neil Young and The Smiths. To a lesser degree Dinosaur Jr. and Lou Reed. Truly painful pairings. I was cheap and refused to buy more tapes.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

I have a tape right here... Fred Wesley and the JB's b/w MC5.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Hahaha. Yours are way cooler than mine.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

whit or wit?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

Anyways, "Cult of Personality" is a really silly song, and not in a good way.

xpost But Amanda, those tapes rule! My favorites that I had were: Ween's "Pure Guava" backed with De La Soul's "3 Feet High & Rising", and Butthole Surfers' "Independent Worm Saloon" backed with Public Enemy's "Fear of a Black Planet." It's funny because the obvious thing to do would be to pair the two rap albums and the two alternative albums, but on the other hand, Ween matches up better with De La Soul than with Butthole Surfers anyway.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

whit, I think.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

look into my eyes, what do you see?
Cult of personality
I know your anger, i know your dreams
I've been everything you want to be
I'm the cult of personality
Like mussolini and kennedy
I'm the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

Neon lights, a nobel prize
The mirror speaks, the reflection lies
You don't have to follow me
Only you can set me free
I sell the things you need to be
I'm the smiling face on your t.v.
I'm the cult of personality
I exploit you still you love me

I tell you one and one makes three
I'm the cult of personality
Like joseph stalin and gandi
I'm the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

Neon lights a nobel prize
A leader speaks, that leader dies
You don't have to follow me
Only you can set you free

You gave me fortune
You gave me fame
You me power in your god's name
I'm every person you need to be
I'm the cult of personality
Look into my eyes, what do you see?
Cult of personality
I know your anger, i know your dreams
I've been everything you want to be
I'm the cult of personality
Like mussolini and kennedy
I'm the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

I tell you one and one makes three
I'm the cult of personality
Like joseph stalin and gandi
I'm the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

Neon lights a nobel prize
A leader speaks, that leader dies
You don't have to follow me
Only you can set you free

You gave me fortune
You gave me fame
You me power in your god's name
I'm every person you need to be
I'm the cult of personality

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

I hug Amanda. She thinks I'm cool.

Another memorable one: The Stooges "Raw Power" b/w Van Morrison "Tupelo Honey"

Anad I remember a tape that had bunch of Led Zeppelin on one side and The Honeydrippers on the other. There's a Robert Plant connection, I know, but it's still a bad choice.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, we have to remember to ask Jaymc about his Apple-store cutie.

I think I had a Peter Tosh/Joy Division combo tape at one point...

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahaha -- Peter Tosh and Joy Division. That RULES.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Pretty sure it's "to wit."

xpost -- wait, did jaymc go on a date with the TEENAGER?

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Also, before I forget, nick wins the Living Colour debate. I'd forgotten the lyrics were that painful.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

wait, did jaymc go on a date with the TEENAGER?

Man, he nailed it shut!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Or not, I have no idea.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

He was totally straight noggin' it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but there's a really great drum fill near the beginning of the song (the bass drum quarter note triplets).

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, I'm getting nervous/excited for you. You only have an hour or so left until your big moment. EEP!

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah! GOOD LUCK NICK.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm trying not to think about it, which is why I'm posting Living Colour lyrics on the internet.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Back in the day when you could fit a whole album on one side of a 90 minute tape!

Kelsey, over the years I have determined that everybody is scary on cocaine, and that's why it's joined the ranks of pot, hallucinogens, Southern Comfort, and Tequila on my "No more ingestion, please, thanks" list.

Speaking of Southern Comfort, I was in the Osco on State and Monroe or something last night. There was a woman in front of me dressed like she works as a decently-paid administrative assistant - neat and clean but cheapish clothing. Her basket contained one box of hot pockets and one liter of Southern Comfort.

Seeing things like that make me want to scurry home and write books.

Also, while I really liked the song "Cult of Personality," I thought everything else they released was just plain cheese. And speaking of black dudes in rock, does anybody remember 24-7 Spies? Also cheesey.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

I remember seeing the 24-7 Spiez album but I don't think I've ever heard any of their music.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

I'M!
THE!
CULT!
OF!
PERSONALITYYYYYYYYYYY!

They were not Bad Brains.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'm with Jordan - the bass-drum part is the one thing that I like about that song. The fancy-time-signature guitar riff isn't my thing.

The Joy Division/Peter Tosh combo was more like 70 minutes of JD with 20 minutes of Tosh at the end. The idea was to enjoy the JD but not to be left in that goth state all day (or night) long.

xpost - SPYZ! SPYZ!

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

But they were in Mos Def's BLACK ROCK SUPERGROUP with the guitarist from Bad Brians.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

24-7 Spyz were on a rerun of Beavis & Butthead I came across lately.

xpost thanks for the spelling correction

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

I came to know with now dismay
That in this world we all must pay
Pay to write, pay to play
Pay to cum, pay to fight

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Were any FISHBONE members in the BLACK ROCK SUPERGROUP?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think john & his teenager took it farther than the apple store. i could be wrong, but i haven't heard anything & usually we gossip about that stuff. granted, i did tell even we thought he had a warm heart, so i may have made john's shit list.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Now Fishbone, there's the rock/funk band I like (especially live).

When I was 16-17, I saw them at the Ritz in New York (with an unknown band opening...called...They Might Be Giants) and saw them at a little dancehall in Milwaukee opening for...The Red Hot Chili Peppers...who were strung out and in terrible shape (worst show I've ever seen), though Fishbone were great. At both shows, they did a 15-minute funk-jam version of the Fat Albert theme.

xpost - NICK I WAS WRITING THIS AND YOU BEAT ME TO IT.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Though the only Fishbone album I owned was their lame-sounding but awesomely-named metal album "Give a Monkey a Brain and He'll Swear He's the Center of the Universe." Not their best stuff.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

Eazy, you were all over the place at such a young age -- I thought you lived in Mpls? You must have cool parents.

I had earrings that looked like the Fishbone logo (by sheer coincidence) and boy, did I think they were cool.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

I'm so distracted today.

I'm really interested in how John's best of '05 album list is coming along. I'm thinking M.I.A. is going to be my #1 or 2.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

And isn't the new Madonna single just GREAT?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

MIA WAS going to be my #1 or #2, but she's sort of fallen off a bit with me lately.... Played too much (by me).

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really do top ten lists but I was thinking this morning about how sad and boring it was that my two favorite albums for this year are the Smog album and the Spoon album. They're both great though!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

MIA album has totally fallen off my radar. It has a few great songs and then a bunch of filler.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, you're wrong.

But MADONNA! IT'S DISCO HEAVEN, I TELL YOU! DISCO HEAVEN!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

Manda, I had relatives in NYC (and a cousin who wanted to go to that Ritz show) and took the train to Milwaukee to visit friends at Marquette (and then ended up doing some theater work in NYC right after high school). The best thing is that those Fishbone shows were all-ages, so I could get in...

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

You're a lucky duck! I had to beg my mom to drive me to Cleveland.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

Were any FISHBONE members in the BLACK ROCK SUPERGROUP?

NO, it was clearly an oversight.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

"Did you call anyone from Fishbone?"

"...No, did you?"

"No."

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

I'm really feeling the Lil' Wayne album. I put a YSI on my lj if anyone wants to hear a track.

I kind of burned out on M.I.A., I'll have to go back to it before the year is out.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

haha

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

I've got the Lil Wayne, too, but it's hard to listen to rap at work for some reason.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Everyone says that, but I love listening to rap while I work. Granted, my work is not about words, so maybe that's the difference. It's hard to read or write with people spittin in your ear, but if you're doing something non-verbal, it's perfect. Keeps your whole brain busy, keeps you shapr.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

sharp.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'm bummed I missed the Living Colour/Fishbone conversation.

"May your dog's colon be familiar with the warmth of your breath" was a standard insult in a house I used to live in.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

You can still talk about Madonna if you want to. Nobody else does.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

Dan, your parents are weird.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

It's hard to read or write with people spittin in your ear, but if you're doing something non-verbal, it's perfect. Keeps your whole brain busy, keeps you shapr.

Oh absolutely. But I'm supposed to be WRITING stuff, so it's super distracting.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to hear the Madonna album. I'd also like it to be good, despite what people have been saying. Guy-who-is-Jacques Lu Cont did all the music, right?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

M4tt Pri3st LOVES Living Colour.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

Haha!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

Dan, your parents are weird.

Aren't everyone's?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

It's good if you like disco. What have people been saying? It's can't be worse than that American Life piece of crap. And the new single is so good, it takes me way, way back. She sounds 20 again.

The video is another matter, because she spends most of it preening around in this tiny leotard trying to prove that she's still got it, but only proving that even dancers lose their abs after they squeeze out a kid and start pushing 50. And there's some great potential with, like, all the people in the butcher shop busting out into a choreographed dance number, but the video is edited so schizophrenically that it never has a chance to reach the Michael Jackson level that it seems to want to.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

< / madonna talk >

sorry.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

WAIT: Jordan, what's your lj addy? (you can email me at sk0wly@gggggmail.com if you don't want to post it)

Turns out that I have SUFFIX, not Carter Vol. II

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

It's hotbeatz

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Is Suffix a mixtape? I'd like to hear that.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Also: I think my favorite double-sided tape I have -- at least in terms of incongruity is Goldie's Timeless on one side, and Stephen Sondheim's A Little Night Music original cast recording on the other.

Yes: the new Madonna single ("Hung Up") is very good. I gave it a 8/10 on Stylus.

Apple Store girl: never wrote me back. :( (Not surprising, since she lives in Chicago. All my luck is with women who live far, far away.)

My albums list: Really dorky but since my list is due on December 10, I'm listening to a few albums a day from throughout the year to help me narrow it down. I have to make a list of 20, and I think I've got 15 already figured out. The remaining five are wild cards, though. As for M.I.A., I loved Arular when it first came out but got burned out on it pretty quickly and now I never listen to it. I'm not sure how to accurately consider it. I guess it's similar to "Hollaback Girl," maybe.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

sweet!

xpost: yeah it is. I'll see if I can YSI (never done it)

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Right now I have a feeling the top three are (in no order) Kelley Polar's Love Songs of the Hanging Gardens, Sufjan Stevens's Illinois, and Out Hud's Let Us Never Speak of It Again.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

KP: no idea.
Surfin Stevens: liked him in concert, thought the album was very very good, but it's fallen off a bit for me. This might be because one of my roommates thinks that he's everything that is wrong with music. Not like he's BAD, but that if people start thinking that what he's doing is the RIGHT DIRECTION FOR OTHERS TO EMULATE then we're all in for some shit.
Out Hud: no idea.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

You must like clean sounds, Jaymc. I can't believe that girl didn't write you back! Idiot.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

Outhud? I have a dj friend who LOOOVES it, but it didn't sound like anything special to me.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

As for M.I.A., I loved Arular when it first came out but got burned out on it pretty quickly and now I never listen to it.

See, I guess I don't understand how people get tired of the sound of blood-spatterd tanks nervously Dizee-ing their way across your tiny island nation.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, this album just WON'T FUCKING STOP.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I was listening to Sufferin' Stevens last night on the train (incidentally, I didn't realize I had gotten on a Purple Line train and was so engrossed in the music and also in the book I'm reading that I unexpectedly found myself at the Howard stop, when I was waiting for the stop after Belmont to be Paulina -- easily amended, though: just went the other way and took a bus at Lawrence) -- and I was realizing how funny it is that S.S. is the epitome of "indie rock" in 2005. Like, how did indie rock get to a point where its standard-bearers were like Sufjan and the Decemberists? I mean, let's consider the show Amanda went to last night: 15 years ago, when you talked about "indie rock," you were talking about burn-outs with long hair playing fuzzy lo-fi squall. Now everyone's all literate and clever and theatrical and have violins and harps and shit. I sort of wonder if Pavement was instrumental in bridging these eras, inasmuch as they did the scuzzy lo-fi thing but were also seen as super-smart.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

(I *do* like clean sounds, yes!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

how did indie rock get to a point where its standard-bearers were like Sufjan and the Decemberists?

This is exactly my roommate's concern. Like, whoah, they're cute and fun and all, but hardly rock and roll.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

I could give a shit if they're "rock and roll." That's never been my priority.

Anyway, I don't think it's spoiling anything to list what I submitted as my top 20 singles (I know what's on the overall list but am sworn to secrecy, hehe):

1. Since U Been Gone - Kelly Clarkson
2. Be Mine! - Robyn
3. Signs - Snoop Dogg ft. Justin Timberlake
4. First - Lindsay Lohan
5. Hollaback Girl - Gwen Stefani
6. 7/4 (Shoreline) - Broken Social Scene
7. 1 Thing - Amerie
8. Mr. Brightside - The Killers
9. Don't Save Us From the Flames - M83
10. Hate It or Love It - 50 Cent ft. The Game
11. Soul Meets Body - Death Cab for Cutie
12. Oh My Gosh - Basement Jaxx
13. Lose Control - Missy Elliott ft. Ciara
14. Random - Lady Sovereign
15. Negotiate with Love - Rachel Stevens
16. Oh - Ciara ft. Ludacris
17. Only - Nine Inch Nails
18. Little Sister - Queens of the Stone Age
19. Ageless Beauty - Stars
20. Daft Punk is Playing at My House - LCD Soundsystem

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

i think i need to put together my favs of 2005 and give them as xmas presents. everyone will hate them. yay.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

I've never heard SS, but is it Illinois or Illinoise?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

A bit confusing, as the album goes by two titles: Illinois and Come On Feel the Illinoise!. I've always felt that the one-word title was the more "official one."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

This is exactly my roommate's concern.

dk = don't know = haven't heard it

1. dk
2. dk
3. dk
4. dk
5. I like the Diplo remix of this
6. dk
7. who?
8. pretty good
9. I like the ___ remix of this (forgot)
10. dk
11. dk
12. dk
13. dk, but I like Missy, so I'm sure it's good
14. I really like this one.
15. dk
16. dk
17. dk
18. dk
19. dk
20. Pretty good.

I need to get out more.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

But the second one is so much better!

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

I have trouble liking Saffron Stevens after I heard he was talking shit on the UP during the Michigan tour.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Like, how did indie rock get to a point where its standard-bearers were like Sufjan and the Decemberists?

I dunno. Seems inevitable to me. Belle and Sebastian was kind of a death knell of indie rock, I think. In the meantime, we have dance music, we have hip hop, and we have old Superchunk records, wo who cares if indie doesn't rock anymore?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

9. remix is Superpitcher, and yeah it's great, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe its just be, but records like MIA and the first Dizee Rascal make me want to break Sufjan Steven's nose. Fuck an indie rocker.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

I keep misspelling Dizzee.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not complaining about Sufjan being the state of indie rock -- it's just interesting to me. Belle & Sebastian-as-death-knell is an intriguing hypothesis. I originally didn't think about them as representing anything new because I felt like they were already pretty connected to the British twee-pop scene of the late 80s and early 90s (which Nabisco has written about in Pfork) -- but maybe the difference is that American indie kids picked up on them in a MUCH bigger way than they ever did, say, the Pastels.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

lindsay lohan sings? what rock have i been living under?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

It would be a stronger loving world if all the indie kids had picked up in a huge way on the straight-up 80's hard rock coming out of Sweden, started wearing ripped jeans again, and considering Van Halen "roots music."

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Stylus writer Mike Powell on Sufjan:

So far, this guy is shaping up to be the most consistently precious and thorougly overestimated American musician of the last several decades. Dear NPR, please keep my Steve Reich out of my Harry Partch out of my Brother Danielson out of my Jim O'Rourke out of my overextended, overlong, and generally pretentious song titles.

Okay, I agree that the album is far too long, but come on: all of those influences he names sound fantastic as a thrown-together stew. It's like, if someone said, "take the hypnotic propulsive pulses of Steve Reich and mix it with heartbreakingly fey vocals," I would've been like WHERE CAN I GET THIS.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe its just be, but records like MIA and the first Dizee Rascal make me want to break Sufjan Steven's nose.

I feel like this sometimes. Ditto Lightning Bolt/Os Mutantes/anything with, you know, PEP. And that merits being played loud. I spent way too much of my teens/college years listening to soft music.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Some nu-indie is a little too cute-n-eunuchy for my taste (see: SS).

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

If I were to listen to one SS song, what should it be?

(and even better, who will YSI to me?)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

lindsay lohan sings? what rock have i been living under?

Speaking of rock, and speaking of Speak (the name of Lohan's album), that song ("First") has one of the absolute best rock riffs I've heard all year. Like rock as in rawk.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Lightning Bolt is so awesome. Not that I don't like a little sentiment in my music... I think I prefer the Death From Above 1979 album to Lightning Bolt, just by a little, because it's all love songs.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

(Spat angrily): "We could do it / and start a family"

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan: I'd recommend you listen to two Sufjan songs, one for his bombastic, polyrhythmic side (in which case I'd recommend "Come On Feel the Illinoise!") and one for his quiet, pretty side ("Casimir Pulaski Day"). I'd YSI, but I don't have anything with me at work.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

Since U Been Gone is the best rock song of the year.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

stronger loving world

...hey, I just re-read Watchmen the other day!

And, fwiw, I have never stopped loving hard rock, or wearing ripped jeans. VH is "roots music" insofar as the radio station that I listened to on the way to HS played them every other song.

xpost I also heart DFA79. HOLY SHIT they were good at Intonation. I want to see them in a small venue very badly (not likely)

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

The Alan Braxe/Fred Falke remix of DFA1979's "Black History Month" is, despite what Nick Sylvester says, fucking awesome. "Your best friend's ... parents ... are leeeeaving."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Or maybe I just like my hard rock when it has gay-ass synths and dance beats all over it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

...hey, I just re-read Watchmen the other day!

There's a new re-release that's all hardbound and with all kinds of extra notes and stuff. Pretty cool.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) Except no, I also think it's more successful than the original, inasmuch as it makes they make the song sound so much more sweaty and desperate.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

JOHN WAYNE GACY

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

lindsay lohan is my new paris hilton. aka tart-y quasi-fascinating famous-for-hardly-anything person. although, at least lindsay works for her money.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

You make her sound like a hooker.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

One thing I will say for LL is that she's sure to fall into the "burnout" category sooner rather than later.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

the "hot burnout" category.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Oh no. Did I kill the thread again? I'll behave, I promise.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

giboyeux (or anyone else really): Do you wanna go see Lady Sovereign with me @ the Empty Bottle next Tuesday?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'm game. I tried to get my roommates to bite when she was here last time and NO DICE.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Lindsay already burned out in the past year, but now she's all rehabbed and healthier?

She was my favorite child actress when I saw her in the Parent Trap remake. I still have a place for her in my heart, but I didn't go so far as to buy her album (though I did listen to it at Virgin).

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

I have trouble separating the quality of brand-new records from the hype and/or bought-and-paid-for PR behind them, so I'll probably get around to listening to Sufjan and M.I.A. closely in another year or two. If they aren't good in two years, then what would be the point of buying them now? But that's kind of how I am with clothes, too, and I like that others embrace the moment more than I do.

I mean, the other day I saw Fatboy Slim's "On The Floor at the Beat Boutique" for $5 at Tower. I bet I'd like it, but I'm glad I didn't pay $30 for the import in 2000.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

I'll probably get around to listening to Sufjan and M.I.A. closely in another year or two. If they aren't good in two years, then what would be the point of buying them now?

I'm beginning to feel like this more and more.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

Solution: download everything.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

There's some truth behind that. Michigan is quite boring to me now, and I really only bought it because I'm from there!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

EXTRA! EXTRA! READ ALL ABOUT IT!

My Coworkers aren't always jerks about money!
One of them just came up to me and said that she knows I'm going to Europe for Christmas and money is tight.. and how did I feel about the $35 office present swap? So, I hesitated and then she suggested that she arrange it so I get her, and then I won't have to worry about spending that much on the present. She was very sincere about it.

THE END.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

To the Dollar Store!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.rrpartners.com/media/images/water_pistol.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

I actually don't care that much what is considered indie rock these days. I mean, does it matter in the big scheme of things? What is considered indie rock by some may seem more soft/clean right now, but there is still music similar to earlier versions of indie rock out there, so it's not like ROCK N ROLL is really dieing (though M0mus would disagree with me).

Also, as has been mentioned, there are a lot of other genres/artists that are jam-packed with energy these days, like Basement Jaxx and Dizzee Rascal (which I've been hearing more and more in public places).

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

so it's not like ROCK N ROLL is really dieing (though M0mus would disagree with me).

I would too, and that's really ok with me. Rock and roll lacks... panache. I have all the riffs and steady backbeats I'll ever need, and many many more, already in my music collection. Also, rock and roll is too trebly. Make my ears buzz.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

in my personal opinion the MIA album was an overrated festering turd.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Good lord man. That's... I like this album enough that I'm suspicious of people who don't, unless they have a really good reason.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Like, "Dance hall beats give me seizures." That would be acceptable.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's sort of universally appealing too - why the ire?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Damnit I want it to snow, already. This one-flake-at-a-time business is a big ol' tease.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

i just don't get what the appeal was....but basically "dancehall beats give me seizures" is a good reason....although not all.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

all in all i find it annoying as all hell...whoopee her father was a Tamil Tiger so lets all run out and love her album.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

basically i hate fun and only like sad bastard music.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

whoopee her father was a Tamil Tiger so lets all run out and love her album.

...well. DUH. Why else would I get it?

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

The only criticism of the M.I.A. album I can muster is that it's kinda dancehall-lite, and I didn't really like the songs WITHOUT dancehall beats.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

I don't even know what a Tamil Tiger is. Is that a football team?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Nevermind. I just remembered what Tamil is. So I guess it's like the Black Panthers of Ceylon or something.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

I like the hassidic reggae guy. matisyahu

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

I'll admit I haven't heard MIA. Or Lady Soverign, Diplo, or other assorted Pf0rk dance musak.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

I've liked the MIA songs I've heard, but not more than "Get Ur Freak On".

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

I can understand why someone wouldn't like M.I.A. ... If you're not predisposed to dance/hip-hop/grime/reggae/etc., I bet it might be annoying.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

I obviously haven't gotten my fill of rock music yet since I play it in a particularly trebly band.

I don't know. Rock music just seems to sound more real and raw to me than just about anything else. I really enjoy dance music and electronic loveliness, but I still need a strong dose of authentic (what's the word I'm looking for? Real? No. Tangible maybe?) sounds.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

i love hip hop (old school only) and reggae but i have a really hard time with this "new" hip hop shit.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

M.I.A. is a spectacle. I already really liked her but seeing her in concert made me appreciate her more. She's just so unassuming.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah! Rockist! ROCKIST!

*clutches chest, passes out*

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Ha HA. True, true.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

I want to know how Nick's THINGAMAJIGABOBBER went.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

I quit my job.

Quiet music is dumb. (Except for the new Smog album.)

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

I really enjoy dance music and electronic loveliness, but I still need a strong dose of authentic (what's the word I'm looking for? Real? No. Tangible maybe?) sounds.

My roommate to thread. Maybe instead of "real" or "tangible," try "human"? Like, real-live people playing music on instruments and singing hand-wrought lyrics with all their might!

in other news: what I wouldn't give for a joint and some time to listen to Super AE in the dark on my headphones. Quitting smoking has been good for health/productivity/well-being, but bad for headphone freakouts.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

So do I. I hope it wasn't all some elaborate trap to lure him into the clutches of the man-eating dungeon creature fron Return of the Jedi. That would be horrible.

xxxpost yay nick! I'm so glad you're not being digested!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

Super AE rulez.

I wish I could go home now. My head and eyes ache and I want a nap. Fuck a two weeks notice.

I was thinking it was funny that my two #1 albums of '05 are ones that I know John has dismissed as boring, and I think that the two of his three top albums that I've heard are kind of boring.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

I quit my job.

NOGGIN' IT.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

As far as I know, my boss hasn't told my coworkers I'm quitting, so it's still kind of a SECRET. I wonder when she's going to tell them?

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Does it matter?

When do you start your new job?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Dec. 15, because my current employer insisted on full two-weeks notice. It's funny because I'll work two days that week, three days the next week, and then go to Virginia for a week. Anyways, the new boss dude seemed genuinely excited I was taking the job, so that was nice. I have to call him at lunch and let him know the deets.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Yaaaay! Congrats Nick.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that's awesome. No more Headaches.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, that two weeks between giving notice and moving on are the BEST. It's so liberating! And no matter how badly what you have to do sucks, you know it's only for a couple more weeks!

Nick, how did they take it? Did you get the feeling that they felt bad for not recognizing how great you are when they had the chance?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

It was a little weird, I think maybe my boss is in a bad/weird/stressed mood but about something else. It was a very short meeting and she said the usual nice/polite things. Very businesslike.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

What, no weeping? That's a pity.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe your boss has a headache.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

Im my experience, if you've been undervalued, underpaid, and all around underappreciated by your employers, quitting doesn't change that. They don't give a shit.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

My boss before last cried! IT was AWESOME!

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha That IS awesome.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

hey chicago, hear out my newly hatched "workout plan" & tell me what you think:

i quit my current gym.
i join a gym downtown that will run me about $20 more a month BUT if i work out 8 times in one month, i get a free manicure, pedicure OR massage!
The reason(s): it's just for the winter b/c i cannot drag myself out of bed in the morning & working out at night is hard b/c it's dark & cold. this way, i can exercise in the afternoon & sometimes just go right after work.
should i do it?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

congrats nick!

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Going right after work is nice.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsey: Are you sure you don't want to wait until after the interview on Friday?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

oh yes . . . YAY NICK!!!!!! I'm very happy for you. Should we celebrate with drinking?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I guess. I just wanted that sort of "someday he'll leave and then they'll be sorry!" kind of vindication, like when somebody gets hideously dumped and then later the dumper comes crawling back to the dumpee begging for another chance.

xpost: Kelsey, you have to factor in schlepping clothes, towels (unless they have towel service), and shower gear to and from work, and also the whole "showering in a public place" factor, but if all of that is cool, especially if there are lockers and towel service, GO FOR IT.

I haven't gone to the gym in forEVAH for very similar reasons. And becuase my damn knees hurt so bad these days that all cardio hurts. Oy. I need a pool.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

xpost We should all go to that cocaine bar.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, right! The interview! Amanda = smart!

xpost to Kenan: gross!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Gross? Maybe not a good idea, but gross?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, congratulations on quitting your shitty job!

I like the hassidic reggae guy. matisyahu

I think that guy kinda sucks. I only heard the live album though. College reggae.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

I just like saying, "gross" in response to things. It's another funny thing I stole from Jesse.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in the situation where my last day is next Friday, and the department I work in knows, but the people I work with outside the department (the people whose writing I edit) don't know yet, and it's a busy time around here so I'm reluctant to throw that into the mix...

But after the 9th, I'll be free for those weekday trips from Argyle Street to the Indiana casinos, etc.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Eazy, are you going to work somewhere else?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

college reggae is fun...granted im about 12 years out of college but i still find it fun

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

are we all going to yell at me because I hate MIA? Let it out!

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

No, we're not going to yell at you.

*huggles*

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

yay!

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, let's do the drinking. Pref. Friday night? We're recording tonight. The only problem with drinking is that I should conserve my money as I'm going to be fairly broke for the next couple of months.

I don't really want vindication against my coworkers or boss, they're actually all fairly tolerable people, it's just a stupid job.

I'm not going to yell at you for hating MIA, I know you only like slow jamz and boring indie white guy acoustic shit.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

I do some freelance work reviewing grants for a foundation, and I'm going to increase the amount of work I do for them. For the past 4 years, I've been doing both jobs, plus music and theater stuff - so it means living on a lot less $$ but having time to take the creative stuff more seriously and sanely.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

to each his own....thats my thing.

not 100% true Nick...sometimes i like the loud...but my version of loud is along the lines of Black Mountain/Dead Meadow.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

and I like the FFs.

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

BOO YAH. Our new album sounds EXACTLY like MIA.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Suck up!

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Our first single is "BOO HOO MY DAD WAS A TERRORIST," look for the Soulwax remix in '06.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

This I gotta hear.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

haha. then i automatically hate you and will not give you a chance. :)

― bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

It's like a mix of MIA and Sufjan Stevens.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

It will feature a song called "Galang Glanag...Glanang (Galang Galang)!!!"

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

REVOLUTION IN MICHIGAN! PEOPLE, RISE UP!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

"...you can dance AND cry to it!"

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Pull Up the People, Pull Up the Poor (Until We Succeed in Overthrowing The Powers That Be!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

"Galang glanog, galang galang glaNOGGIN' IT!"

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

Friday night drinking sounds fun. Friday evening 7pm-11 is the DEPARTMENT art/DIY craft fair at Open End. Would anyone be up for going there too? To find unusual xmas presents?

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

i would!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsey, Please bring the sock monkey accessories! I started on Monkey 2 and Monkey 3 last night. I'm making them at the same time so they'll be sisters, but mostly just to mix things up a little bit.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

Eazy, that sounds wonderful!

Friday night could work for me if I get enough crap done on Friday day. And I would LOVE to go to a craft fair to look for Christmas gifts!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

wanna plan to meet up at the place around 6 or 6:30?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Tell me what you guys are doing later. I think I'm going to RC but would like to hang out afterwards...

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Argh, I just got scheduled for another business trip next month, this time doing four nights of 7 pm - 7 am shifts over a weekend in Portland. I guess it's my own fault for not saying that I'm UNavailable the whole month, but 72 hour (+ travel time) work weeks are fucking wack.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm, I don't think I would like a job that would make me do things like that.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

But it's apparent that I only take jobs that are low priority, which is why I will never be rich.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

I think by "priority" I mean "responsibility."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

I am not rich.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you were a Jew ... ?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

BLOOPER!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I want to meet up around 6 or 6:30. Where? I don't know where the craft fair is, either.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

I am sitting in my very last class of the semester!!!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

I just did the CTA trip planner & the Damen bus will get you there. it's on 2000 w. fulton, i believe? we could meet there & for those of us who may not have eaten, pick a casual joint to grab some cheap eats & then settle into a drinking establishment? meet up with others?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

I would love to join you ladies, but I have too much stuff to do until two weeks from Thursday, when my semester is officially over.

Work is super busy and I'm feeling whiny. I wanna have time to do stuff. This blows. Also Friday I have a student after work, so that takes me straight through to 8pm. Dammit, I feel whiny.

Notice: no no-complaining clause today, hence this childish outburst.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

I realize that I technically could have done homework last night instead of going to a show, but I'll be doing homework all weekend, so last night was sort of my Night of Fun. I hope all of this bullshit is worth it someday.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

That plan sounds good Kelsey. Open End is really near our practice space, if we decide we all need to go rock out for a while too.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

I'm whiny too. I want to have time to go to the gym AND spend time with my fiancee rather than working and travelling.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

This bullshit will be worth it! And it's okay to be whiny. And I totally know how you feel, and soon you, too, will have free time. And we will be there to totally monopolize it.

I *heart* Amanda!

xpost: And Jordan!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Also: I will see you ladies at 6ish on Friday at Open End Gallery. Here is a link for http://www.depart-ment.com/main_pages/new_home.htm - note that they do not take credit cards, just cash and checks.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

I'm really out of it. Sleeeeeepy. I have had no energy at all this week. But I'm looking forward to recording.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

B-but their site says it starts at 7pm Friday night, right? Are we just going to show up at 6 and form a queue?

http://www.depart-ment.com/

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

Forgot to mention: if you want to hear the Kelley Polar album (in my top three of this year), you can stream it here.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

It's kind of Junior Boys meets Arthur Russell meets Manhattan Transfer.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe we can meet at six, get some dinner, and then shop? Or just meet at seven. I'll be studying my little face off all day so my schedule is felxible.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

...not entirely sure about this Polar stuff, J.

I think it's context-dependent (viz NOT at work)

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Manhattan Transfer?
http://www.canberratheatre.org.au/pages/event/images/Manhattan-Transfer.gif

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Yup!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

I really don't think K. Polar is for everyone. I was playing the album while Renee was helping me clean my apartment before I moved, and she just shook her head and said, "You are so gay."

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

i just ate a reese's tree! yum!

i'm up for whatever . . . it'll be cheaper for me to run home & eat, but if we eat cheap i'll eat out. dig?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

That's sort of what I'm thinking in my brain right now.

GAY.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

I'm up for whatever, too. I don't know what is in that area as far as cheap eats go, though.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

I listened to a bit of it at my desk just now, but I had to have the volume way down, so mostly it just sounded like a tiny casio keyboard with occasional church choir sounds.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

hi everyone. i'm currently holding my final "office hours" before my students' final on monday...and predictably, not a single soul has come in to see me. i don't care if you all fail, but don't write me on sunday night asking for all kinds of help!

your description of KP sounds good, john. i love "here in the night," i've put it on several mix cds for people next to the juan maclean's "give me every little thing."

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

There's only so far I can go with polyphonic cheeze. Manhattan Transfer crosses my line with a big, gay leap.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

I think I tend to valorize "ridiculousness" in music sometimes.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not dissing the Polar, since I haven't heard it, but I don't ever need to hear MT again. Hearing it in my mom's Caprice Classic was enough.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

HI MARK!!!!!!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Hi guys! I've missed this entire thread because I was on Wisconsin Death Trip, and then got the flu. I would get Kelley Polar, but....My favorite record/comic/book store, the one a block away from work, burned down last night : (

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

OH NOES!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

I tried to pretend to be a Gay 401K this morning, but Nick didn't get it because he thought I was just using another female voice. I mean, DUH! OBVIOUSLY I was a gay 401K. GEEZ.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.purdueexponent.org/mojavi/Update/images/2005/11/30/lead.jpg

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

Gay 401K?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

I'm listening to the Dillinger Four, and man oh man do I miss the old punk rock days.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

once when i was temping (& terribly bored) i made a picture on the computer of a seal named "mr. whiskers." the little drawing i did was mr. wiskers looking at a piece of wrapped peppermint candy on the ground with the text:
"mr. whiskers thinks about eating the candy on the ground but then decides to roll it into his 401k."

that said, i have no idea what gay 401k is.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

It is what it sounds like.

I got this package in the mail @ the various 401K programs. I'm supposed to pick one or opt out of it and let my benefits coordinator know. I looked through it a little bit and was clueless. Nick was like, oh, let me show you... So, he grabs the papers, gets a funny look on his face, and says something to the effect of 401ks being gay anyway.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

I just enrolled in my 403b (or whatever the nonprofit version is) yesterday!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

I got my packet for the Teachers' Retirement Fund or whatever it's called yesterday too -- I haven't even started working yet and I'm already reaping MAD BENEFITS.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

401k's are indeed gay. I still haven't signed up for mine.

(I know, I know)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

I have never enrolled in a 401K or anything like that. Which is probably really stupid, but I'm just so ignorant about finance and too lazy to figure it out.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

If you work for a company that matches every dollar you put into your 401(k), it's not gay, even if you end up taking out the $$ early with a substantial penalty. It's straight, man - straight e-d-g-e.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yesterday we covered taxes and hourly expenses on freelance design projects - today's subject is 401(k): Is It For Me?

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

john, there isn't much to know. you should just designate a certain amount of money to be deducted each month. then, you decide where you want to invest it . . . i did an "aggressive" package which my benefits person helped me with.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

I went to an informational session, and I was with them until they started talking about deciding on where to invest the money. I didn't know it was so stock markety.

I wish I had recording facilities because I just thought of a killer dancehall beat in 7/4.

xpost!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

(K. always gravitates toward an aggressive package.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I know, I just ... it would involve contacting someone, I bet.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

Totally. It's just *yawn* too much effort.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

I hate that shit. This is the part of adulthood that I guess we have to deal with in order to eat what we want, wear what we want and stay up as late as we want.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

..."want" being relative, of course. But no one stopped me from wearing red kneesocks and a purple sweater today and I appreciate that sort of freedom. Thank you adulthood.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

403b rulez! TIAA-CREF STRAIGHT NOGGIN' IT BIZZITCH

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

Say more, EZ. Do say more . . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

DON'T, IT'S A TRAP!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

Like how the money put into the 401(k) is pre-tax dollars, so you're actually earning untaxed income?

I still like to think that I'll be a millionaire at 55, so I might as well keep everything I make now - but a 401(k) is such a good deal...

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

Zzzzzzz.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

When your broke-ass kids google this in 2050, J...

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc: "I'M NOT HAVING KIDS!!"

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

HEY GUYS WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE KIND OF EXCITING AND NOT BORING THING

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

Another reason why I'm not having kids. (XPOST!!!)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

OK, when your broke-ass "longtime companion" etc., etc.....

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.nikkichannel.net/pics/guffman.jpg
Boring Boring Boring

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'm being marmish here because I'm way behind in my own work and have failed to finish a new song for the benefit I'm playing at tonight, and it's easier to kick your ass than my own.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

Dude is CUT.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

Worst/grossest/most painful thing you've ever accidentally squirted in your eye?

Mine: jalepeno juice, while chopping. I called 911 and started crying and it went away in about an hour. Not recommended!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

Pepper spray. 'Cept the cops did it, not me.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

Oof, manda! I once was at a party with a dry contact lens and thought I would discreetly use some of the host's saline solution, which must have been for hard lenses or something - all I know is it turned my whole eye red and it was terrible for days.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

Oh no, eye talk.

One time, before a business meeting, I put hot sauce on my eggs at the continental breakfast and then accidentally wiped my eyes before washing my hands. It wasn't pretty.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, good thing it was just your eye.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

I put hot sauce on my eggs at the continental breakfast and then accidentally wiped my eyes before washing my hands.

I have done this after chopping habaneros before. OMFG>

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

Just tryin' to SPICE IT UP folks!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha! john!!!

gib, that cop incident sounds like a real story . . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

Eric, I've used that weird painful saline solution before too, it hurts! A LOT! Dumbest product ever!

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

Orange juice and alcohol at an outdoor festival with no sinks or bathrooms in sight.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

Roasted poblano juice.

Also, a torn contact hurts like a sonofabitch.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

Uh, isn't that other contact-care sl'n basically HYDROGEN PEROXIDE?? It's not meant to go in your eyes, it goes into the once-a-week cleaning bath thing for removing calcium deposits. And the top of the bottle usually has a warning ink-jetted across, saying "DON'T USE IN EYES".

Ahem. Of course, I've made the same mistake.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

It is a real story!

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

The stuff I used was not very obviously marked. I still felt dumb afterwords though.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

I'm afraid I can no longer continue reading this thread. It's making my eyes water.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry -- topic change. My wild friend from high school is pregnant. Discuss.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: i'm sure it is! i want to hear it!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

It took her this long?

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

(like, she was "wild," etc. etc.)

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

That's what I mean! Can you believe it? I can't believe it took her this long.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

It wuddn't me!

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

I'm happy for her, but it's kind of funny.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

My ex-girlfriend from high school is pregnant.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

And, it wasn't me!

\obligatory

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

GIS for "it wasn't me" produced this. Discuss.

http://ewancient.lysator.liu.se/pic/art/a/n/anikerstin/it_wasnt_me.jpg

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

what a whore!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hm. I would posit that those crafty Swedes don't like hyperlinked images.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

Nutshell (for Kelsey):

Homecoming bonfire. Loads of people out. Dude streaks around the bonfire. Cops (called in from the tri-county area for the event) give chase. Streaker runs into crowd where my friends and I are standing. Cop collides with me. Accuses me of obstructing him on purpose. Drags me into clearing and, with the help of a few other 200+lb cops (I am 150), pins me to the ground. I ask if I can get up, I can explain, etc., and try to stand. Cop says I am resisting and shoots me in the eye with pepper spray (while pinned under 600lb of cop). Go to jail. Sprung from jail by campus security (who helpfully drops me and the other detainees off at a house party). Schools threatens expulsion. Wait 6 mo. for trial, where I am found innocent in the face of 4 cops "eyewitness" accounts (they were all hundreds of feet away whereas my witnesses were standing right next to me).

Do not like cops anymore (which has only gotten me in more trouble).

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

sweet jesus. that's a horrible story!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, that sounds really scary.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

Well, it's not an unhorrible story, yeah.

Memorable moments:

* Unleashing a spectacular stream of obscenities at the officers as they were dragging me to the "holding area" where the streaker, drunks and other students were being kept before getting carted to jail.
* Arriving at jail and feeling the relief of the jailer's hose in my eye as I finally got uncuffed to take my contacts out.
* Sensing the feeling of "oh shit" when I told the booking officer my side of the story (guys that arrested me were NOT from H4n0ver).
* Rolling quarters back and forth across the floor of the jail cell with all the other guys that got arrested. Fun! Also fun: all of us making fun of the completely bombed due sleeping it off on the bench in a stained, bright orange hoodie. He was still there when we left.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

so who else is meeting up on friday for drinks & such to celebrate nick's job? kenan's job, too, probably. i think a celebration of leaving crap work is mandatory regardless.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'll be in NYC.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

I'll be teaching. I *might* be able to meet you out after that for one beer or something, but then I have to retire so I can work hard on Saturday. Someone call/text me to tell me where you are!!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

Please.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

OKAY!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to as well, but have no idea what's happening Friday night. Someone give me a call/text... I think N&S have my number? If not I'll provide it.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

I think Sarah has it on her cell.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure we'll reconfirm plans on this thread on Friday. And pick somewhere to eeeeaaaattttt.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'm hungry NOW. Can we eat NOW?

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

We're making homemade GREEK PIZZA tonight.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

PEOPLE, THE PAST TENSE OF "SYNCH" IS NOT "SUNK"!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

haha!

why am i still at work?!?!?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

me too. (but it'd be stranger if i wasn't.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

I AM ALSO AT WORK.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

AHHHHH!!! this is the third day i haven't taken a lunch & i've stayed at least 30-60 minutes late.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, I ate food . . . but worked.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

I've been buying Sandwich Supplies lately! Delicious sandwiches at a fraction of the price!

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

I would if we didn't have 20 people using a dorm-sized fridge. I keep a lot of cereal at my desk & buy soy milk to keep in the fridge.

I think I'm going to split. I've put in my time, dammit!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

I, also, am at work. And I always eat at my desk.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

So if the primary toppings for this pizza are going to be olives and feta, should it be a pesto or tomato base, or something else?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

Pesto. Or garlic butter.

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:56 (nineteen years ago)

(or oil)

― giboyeux (skowly), Wednesday, 30 November 2005 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

I was thinking about that, do you think just olive oil would work?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 00:08 (nineteen years ago)

We decided on 1/2 olive oil + pesto, 1/2 tomato sauce. It's in the oven now. I'll keep you informed, Chicago.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

Prognosis: Delicious!

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

Good evening, Chicago. I played songs at a Katrina benefit at the Ne0-Futurists - very very fun, great people.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 05:39 (nineteen years ago)

very nice. I hear great things about them.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 05:53 (nineteen years ago)

just to jump in and ruin your thread again....401k's are indeed not GAY. if you put away $20 per pay period now assuming your in your 20's you'll have a decent amount when you retire in 400 years or so. Its a sound investment and the money you put in is pre-tax so you won't feel like your losing any...does your company offer a match? Not to be a bastard but I've been putting away about $150 every two weeks for 8 years and have a decent chunk of change in my portfolio. Its definately worth it...but you know if you want to call them gay go for it...just don't count on your children to take care of you when you are 72.

― bingo (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'm hoping for painless suicide centers like in Soylent Green by then. Just hug my family goodbye, go in and go to sleep looking at flowers.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.fncentral.com/401k/img/feature/cashing.gif

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Wow!

...boy am I hungover.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 1 December 2005 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

EAZY IS RIGHT ABOUT 401(k) PLANS. DO NOT GET ME STARTED PEOPLE.

Especially because I'm about to start studying employee benefits. But seriously. ENROLL. And cough up the largest percentage you possible can afford. You are mad MAD!!! if you do not.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

all in all i put in approximately $325-$350 every two weeks...thats with the match.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

And by "about to start studying," I mean I've already taken the class and and today is "study for Employee Benefits" exam day, not like "I'm about to take the class."

Yes, 401(k)s are complicated, and yes they are stockmarkety, but if you start socking the money away now and TOTALLY IGNORE IT and keep rolling it over from job to job and just keep on ignoring it, you will earn money. The key is to pick the portfolio that best fits your age and risk aversion (and um, isn't too heavy on employer stocks *cough*Enron*cough*), enroll and totally ignore it.

Worst eye thing: Ben Gay. Also, boiling water.

I was a dumb kid.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

basically if your in your 20's you want mostly aggressive growth funds....this is what i do for a living mind you.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

Do you? That's cool! I just took a class in law school so I can tell potential employers that I "get" and even kind of enjoy ERISA-related problems and they will hire me because who likes ERISA-related problems?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

yes, im a fin analyst.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

In Chicargo or do you live elsewhere?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

so if your choosing funds sarah check out the 5, 10 and 15 year returns....choose ones that have a nice 15 year rate of return.

i live in massachusetts.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, okay. I'll keep my IRA with that funny Polish dude down Ashland, then.

I'm not sure how I feel about this. Will limiting the breed really make much difference? You can train any dog to be an asshole, and some are naturally meaner than others (like Chows. Holy shit are they mean-ass dogs) and I've only ever met nice pit bulls.

I think there needs to be more aggressive enforcement of existing anti-cruelty and dog fight laws (like Animal Precinct!) and see if that maybe doesn't take care of the problem. Of course that will cost money as opposed to generating money through fines, so I supposed that's the difference there.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Chris, I don't really think 401ks are GAY, nor does Nick. He just said that jokingly beause he couldn't figure it out.

Anyway, I really want to put away money for the future, but I am in so much debt that it seems like it would be more profitable for me to work on paying those loans off (both student loan and credit card debt) than to start saving. What do you think, bingo? Here are the dirty deets:

Student Loan- Still owe @ $8k
Credit card debt- $10k+

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

In other news, the snow sure is pretty today.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

*looks out window* Oh fuck.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

I think 401k's are gay. I honestly do. I expect to be taken totally literally about this. I think only homosexuals have 401k's. This is what my admittedly limited reading has led me to believe.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Oh come on John. It's so pretty!

Although the forecast totally did not call for two inches of snow today. Flurries, it said.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

It's definitely the pretty kind of snow.

Tonight I'm riding up with Nick to Evanston because he needs to fill out some paperwork for the new job. WOO HOO! EVANSTON!

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

That was a good "fuck."

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 1 December 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

It's definitely the pretty kind of snow.

Yes. As opposed to the "dig your car out" kind. Not that it matters to me -- I'm happy any time I can still make it down the sidewalk. I brought my camera out with me today.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Also, the sidewalks aren't too icey yet and the wind isn't too bad (=pretty snow).

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

I think 401k's are gay. I honestly do. I expect to be taken totally literally about this. I think only homosexuals have 401k's. This is what my admittedly limited reading has led me to believe.

Haha, I would totally Excelsior this, except I think it would be misunderstood. But it is making me laugh. :D

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Although, when I tried to pull in to the parking lot at my work this morning, the car decided it didn't want to turn, so I slid into the curb instead. It wasn't tragic, but it did make me think again about snow tires.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

Only downside of the snow is the salt.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

I love it when someone has thrown out, like, five big grains of rock salt, so there are five inch-wide snowless places in front of the building. Safety!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

very pretty snow. i'm all delighted.

this is where i could rant on endlessly, but i'll just agree with you. there's a bunch of threads on pit bulls, but the search fn isn't working.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

My litigationphobic former boss used to insist that we put signs on the interior steps when we spilled something and had to wipe it up (I tended to spill a lot of coffee climbing the steps to my office), but never bothered to purchase any sort of de-icer for the deadly, icey outdoor steps. He did, however, once send me outside with little take-out packets of regular iodized salt and had me sprinkle those on the steps to try and melt the ice.

He was fucking nuts.

xpost: I'm a bad ILXor. I didn't even think to search for other threads. But then again, animal-related conversations in which everybody doesn't take my side tend to enrage me so maybe that's for the best.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Man, I slid into the curb as well today. Our street was REALLY slushy and I just started sliding down the hill. No damage done (I think).

I know 401k's aren't gay, I've just been intimidated by them. Chris has inspired me though, I'm at least going to look at the benefits website today.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, an Onion article that's funny all the way through:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/43032

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of animal-related conversations, we noticed on the drive up to Madison this weekend all the signs for off-track betting places. (I hate horse and dog racing.) Is there any on-track betting? What exactly would constitute as on-track anyway?

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

On-track is when you actually go to the race track to bet. Off-track is just a room with TVs and stuff, so you're watching the race from somewhere other than the track.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

On-track betting is when you actually go to the track.

xpost

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

OTBs seem fascinating, albeit in a sad way.

I just sent a very businesslike email to my bandmates. We have a lot of things to get done and we're playing 4 shows in Dec. now.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Did it include bullets? Roman numerals?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

No, just regular numerals. :(

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

BLOOPER

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

now the search worked...threads on pit bulls:

OH FOR FUCKS SAKE: Ontario bans Pit Bulls

Pit Bulls: What's the appeal?

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

I'm at home! I'm polishing off my project, which I have to present this afternoon at 4pm.

Actually, right now I'm taking a little 30 second break. But then back to work! I like the snow today - it reminds me of Ohio. Sometimes I miss Ohio.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

The OTBs downtown are next to the Chicago Theater and at Jackson and Franklin. Both are surreal and sad and, like Indiana and Indian casinos, fun and interesting if the vibe doesn't bring you down.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

There's the alternate to the 401(k), which involves investing $20 per week at the track over 35 years.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

Casinos are FUN! between the hours of 8pm and 1am. Depressing at most other times. Unless you're on mushrooms -- then they're just TERRIFYING.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

xpost It's a lot like Social Security reform.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, if you guys are into illegal gambling establishments and the vaguely sad sort of folks who frequent them, you should check out Sheriff! It contains a bust of an illegal gambling operation that pretends to make soap. Its PBS debut is Jan. 3!! If you wanna see the uncut, unblurred version, ask me! (Sorry, I had to squeeze a little plug in there while its germane)

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

www.sheriffmovie.com !!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Cool, manda! I love Weisman docs and hadn't heard about this one. Were you involved with it?

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

What did they cut and blur?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

A lady named Miss Janet, who was the cashier at the gambling operation and a felon on the lam who is currently "missing." Eek!

EZ - my hubby is the guy who made the movie, hence the relentless plugging.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Did it include bullets? Roman numerals?

Does it include assignments for each band member with their name highlighted in bold?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

I want to see the uncut, unblurred version! And have a Q&A with the guy who made the movie!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, one of the rules of thumb is if you have debt its best to work paying that off first and then start investing. but even if you can afford 1% of you pre-tax dollars its better than nothing at all. it can't hurt to say put $10 from your pay towards retirement for now and then once your making more money and the debt is coming down increase your amount to your retirement. For the first 5 years I was here I had substantial debt and contributed around 1-2% and it got me started. Its seriously worth it. I know you guys don't think 401k's are gay.... ;)

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

sure they can be intimidating at first but its simple reading really.

mutual funds come in all sorts of varieties, some invest aggressively for capital appreciation, while others are conservative and are designed to generate income for shareholders. You need to assess your tolerance for risk before deciding which funds are appropriate for you. The timing of buying or selling obviously depends on the outlook of the economy, the state of the stock and bond markets, interest rates and other factors.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, see, that didn't make any sense to me. I am a complete idiot when it comes to money. "Mutual funds"? "Aggressively"? "Capital appreciation"? "Tolerance for risk"? I'm not trying to take the piss, I just don't know what any of this means.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

I have zero tolerance for risk, I want to set it up and then forget that I ever thought about it until I'm 60.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

That would be ideal.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

It's sort of funny how nobody ever teaches you any of this in school. I mean, unless you're like an econ major.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

but because your still young Jordan you can afford taking the risk, you can always diversify the portfolio a bit. put some in growth funds, the rest should be in aggressive growth funds. You put your money into bond funds when you are old and in diapers.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmmm.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

All I know is I took the middle road when I chose how to set up my tiaa-cref account. I'm not even sure how much money I put in per pay period. I do know that the U pays $2 for every $3 I pay or something like that. I'd like to learn more, but what's a good place to look? Most of the documentation I recieved is way the fuck over my head.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

I just want to say... the first real snow of the season is the best. There's this tree down the street decorated with all red lights, and now it's covered in snow, and it's so Christmasy I can hardly stand it.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

the first day i started working here in training, the first thing they taught us was "What is a Mutual Fund?"

Mutual Fund: fund operateed by an investment company that raises money from shareholders and invests it in stocks, bonds, options, futures, currencies or money market securities. Funds offer you the advantage of diversification and professional management.

Basically you invest in a stock, you get one thing. You buy google, you own google.

Say you invest in the bingo growth and income fund which has as its holdings
ATT
MERCK
MICROSOFT
GOOGLE

you invest in a "safer" and a group of stocks rather than one.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

the old standby
http://www.morningstar.com/

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

Mmmm, veggie corn dogs.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

The email did include specific assignments for Ben and for I, but they were not highlighted.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Did it include a section called TREASURY UPDATE?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Or MISC. OUTSTANDING TASKS?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

No.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

To highlight how easy it is to have a 401(k) and then ignore it:

I had a 401(k) at my last job. I quit, and my boss had it rolled into an IRA, which sat in a money market account in NC until I got around to calling the investment company that was holding the account and telling them to transfer it to Chicago. I then called a branch of the same investment company in Chicago, and went to talk to the funny Polish dude whose last name is all consonants and he said, "I would suggest these mutual funds becuase you are young and you don't have a lot of money in here and I'll keep an eye on this and let you know if I think we should change something, okay?" And I, with a general understanding of how this works and the importance thereof glazed over and said, "Yeah, whatever, let me out of this office" and now I have a folder that tells me more than I ever care to know about my retirement account that I plan to never look at again unless I need the funny dudes phone number for something.

Signing up for a 401(k) through work involves even less work.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

It would have been great if you wrote it in middle-managerese: "In the upcoming month we hope to exploit our strong financial position and create a new paradigm for monetization via public offerings and development/expansion of the company's existing recorded holdings. Push the envelope here, folks."

xpost

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

That was gross.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

Grossly hilarious?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

I sort of get paid to write that stuff! Ew!

(seriously. this is why I want to quit so bad.)

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

Several months of temping caused my housemate and I to both cringe in fear and crack up laughing at the sound of that kind of business-speak. I'm a big fan of the "word" monetize.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I actually tried signing up for my 401k but my company gave them the wrong SSN for me. This goes back to last year, when they screwed up a digit in my SSN at tax time and I had to fix it with the IRS.

I'm blanking, what's the form you get from your employer for your tax return called?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

W2?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

THINK OUT OF THE BOX.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

w-4 is what you fill out
w-2 is what they send you.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, thanks.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I have to choose a PERCENTAGE of income to deduct. Brain...hurting...Chris, what's standard?!?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

The matching thing, Jaymc, which I bet your company does, means that for every dollar you invest in your 401k, they invest a dollar. This means that if you invest, say, 2% of a 25K/year income, you're investing $500 a year, but at the end of the year you've got $1000 in your account - if you invest 4% ($1000/year), you'll have $2000 in your account - and that's money for mutual fund managers to use to invest. (And a good aggressive fund might appreciate 5%-10%/year...)

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, take your annual income and cut off the last two numbers - that's 1% of your salary. (Again, because this is your income BEFORE withholding, you're actually putting more money into the account than you would take home without investing - in that example above, $500 as 2% of a $25,000/year income is before withholding - if you don't invest, you might see $250 of that, with the rest going to social security, FICA, etc.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, cool. I think I'll do 2%.

God, sorry for turning this into the most boring thread EVER.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

That David Brooks photo had a subconscious effect on the thread - it's like Dad's watching.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, how are you doing this, Jordan?

I mean, shit, I'll do it, too, if they're just going to give me free money (which I don't really understand, but okay -- I mean, why not just pay me the money upfront).

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

I know, I know, I'm playing dumb here. Sorry.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

John - employers get tax breaks for making matching contributions to your 401(k).

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - Becuase there are tax breaks for them and for you, Jaymc, to give American citizens incentive to invest -- that's why you can have $1000 in an account that you can't touch for a while from what would otherwise be $250 in your paycheck (approximately $5/week in a 52-week year).

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

YEAH ME TOO. I do this all day I don't need to ruin ILX with it.

Jay double check with them first. Make sure they do match and what percentage. also make sure that you are fully vested or close to being fully vested. because if you change jobs without being fully vested you'll lose a percentage of the employer match and any earnings on that match.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

SHOOT ME IN THE FACE

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

I found the link to the website (401k.com!) of the dingus that my employer goes through for this stuff. I had to call a phone number to set my pin, but then ran into the SSN debacle so I was on the line with them for awhile. Anyway, you can setup the deduction and the investments online or on an automated phone system.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

and remember you can always take a loan out on your 401k to buy a house...but its not recommended.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

What's the point of investing? Like why is it a good thing in general? Not just for me, but for people, society, etc.?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

And what does "fully vested" mean?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Let me put on my employee benefits hat here for a second:

Policy-wise, after a lot of American workers lost their shirts when Edsel pulled their pension plans, the government decided that retirement savings were very, very important and constructed all of these way complicated rules and regs that, if met, allow employers to get made tax breaks for offering certain types of retirement plans to their employees. These regs also protect that money so that when you quit your job, you get to take it (and if you meet certain requirements about how long you've worked there) the employer contribution with you. They also prevent things like Teamster presidents from borrowing from pension funds to build Las Vegas, but that's not really applicable to 401(k) conversations since that's a different kind of retirement plan.

This is not boring, but a very important life skill akin to sewing on a button or checking your oil that it's very good that we are all learning about.

*takes off hat*

Okay, it's a little boring, but it's still important and since we got Jordan to enroll in his plan and John to investigate further, I say it was all totally worth it!!! Yeah!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

jordan make sure you research the funds you choose before dumping $$ into them. Remember aggressive growth/growth funds. NO BOND FUNDS. Look for good 5, 10, 15 year returns. Check what the funds holdings are and what not. You should be able to do all of this on your 401k site.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

At least we can relate to this kind of financial talk on a personal basis. My job (which I'm leaving next Friday after four years - it could be yours if you want it!) involves reading this kind of stuff in the context of corporate bonds for insurance companies and analysis based on that data.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Fully vested means that whatever money the employer put in the account now belongs to you.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

John owes us a round of fancy drinks when we're all retired in Florida together.

Or, if he doesn't invest, he owes us a cup of coffee from his rooming-house hotplate.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

And investing is important because eventually you're going to be told old/sick/tired to work and even if you do work, you're going to make shit because you're old and face it, even if social security is still around when you're old/sick/tired, it barely pays enough for like, Chicago winter heating bills much less things like food, shelter, and basic clothing needs.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

vesting: right an employee gradually acquires by length of service at a company to receive employer-contributed benefits, such as payments from a 401, pension, profit share....the tax reform act of 1986 states that employees must be vested 100% after 5 years of service or at 20% a year starting in the third year and becoming 100% vested after 7 years.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

sewing on a button or checking your oil

I don't know how to do these, either.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know how to do these, either.

for real?!

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Now I'm just getting depressed.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

What else is new? RIGHT, GUYS?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Ya gotta balance all the knowledge about the history of crunk with a little know-how...

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

I am no good with know-how.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

(I would say "Or marry someone who knows about all the practical stuff", but I know the answer I'm getting to that one...)

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

I think when I was the last one in my class to learn how to tie my shoes, that must've been a sign.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Problem with Chicago thread

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Well, not to prolong this, but companies make it SO easy to enroll in the 401(k) - and after you do the intial paperwork, you'll have something like $5-$25/week less in your paycheck and you won't have to think about it at all anymore. So it just takes the humility of signing up - after that, you're set and can forget about it until you suddenly see in a few years that you've got $10K in there, as if by magic.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

one more piece of advice is to compare the funds your looking at purchasing with the S&P 500 Index....which is a good indicator. If has a history of performing below the S&P...its usually a good sign of a lousy fund.

You can check these things on morningstar.com.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Aw, Jay. But, see, I usually only take to useful-type people and I really like you! So you're a winning combination, one way or another.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

ok, im done. i promise. later.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. This has gotten extremely, unbearably boring. I remember when I got guff for talking about phonology! Man, phonology is HOTTSVILLE USA compared to 401Ks.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

All this info is really appreciated! Now I feel like I can approach our benefits person with some sort of knowledge on the subject, instead of just saying, "uh, whatever you think."

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I'll happily talk about phonology!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Should we talk about breasts now or something?

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc! Email me! We won't bore the others!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, as soon as I'm done with this project. I have to give my presentation today and I'm MUY NERVIOSA!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

I have a pair! (of breasts)

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

I have a hunch that my next birthday (27th) is going to be the first one that I dread.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

since i had some time this morning i ordered:

a new wireless mouse & keyboard
a footrest
a fancy stand-up blue stapler

also, sarah, i put the tiny scarf & hat in my purse so i absolutely won't forget it tomorrow!! i hope it's not too small! i used this other little beanie animal as a guide . . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

LESS BORING
MORE BRO-ING

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

JAYMC QUIT BEING MAUDLIN, EVERYONE LOVES YOU

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

John, how is your new dope pad working out?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think you want me to answer that honestly.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

OK OK sorry.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

It's actually kind of interesting to me, though, the whole birthday-dreading thing. I wondered when it would happen.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.purplemoon.com/Stickers/pooh-eeyore.jpg

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

John, You are a YOUNGIN'! When is your b-day? Also, I just relearned how to sew buttons this year. ALSO, I don't remember how to check the oil, so I never add any. I just go get it changed every 3 months or so. Is that really bad for the car?

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

You should be like me and Jeff and get a ladyfriend who's a little older than you. Then you feel eternally youthful.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know how to sew or change oil either.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

(I don't either. I know how to check for oil, but that's all.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

1. Birthday is in March. 27 definitely seems old, though. Late twenties. All my vital youth is behind me.

2. Isn't changing your oil every 3 months or so (or every 3000 miles) generally what you're supposed to do?

3. I've only ever dated people who were older than me!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Should we have a quarter-century life skills party?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

I think it has to be 1+ years older for it to really work.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

i had leaf change my bike tire, if that makes you feel better, john. don't be dreary! i can show you how to sew & check your oil!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking not wanting to be old or practical, I really want an Ugly doll, just to be frivolous. And you can get outfits for them. My favorites are Icebat and Wage.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Oil change is easy. Oil filter change can be a real pain in the ass.

I am super-stoked: the Press gives us $100 in free books for the holidays. So, I sent a quick email to my academic parents telling them to look at the catalog, they send me a list of titles, I fill out a form, and BAM! $116.50 of cloth-bound dense-ass academicy books for $8.25! Easiest Xmas shopping evar! Plus they're shipping them to MI for me!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

That's funny, I was just popping in real quick to say that this thread has bored the socks off of me. Look!

http://www.ecyrd.com/ButtUgly/attach/Main/-458029575-Kuva(73).jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

MY BIRTHDAY IS IN TEN DAYS!!! Let the countdown begin!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Should we have a quarter-century life skills party?

TAX PARTY!!!

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

(i'll be 28)

I'm coming back from Mpls that day but would anyone want to hang out that night?! get drinks or dinner or something?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

Checking oil is easy once you know where the stick thing is. Changing it... I wouldn't even know where to start. I don't know how to change a tire, either, which is kind of embarassing. The one time I tried, I attempted to follow the advice from a friend to put the jack in the center of the car. I thought she meant the center of the entire car, like the middle, and not the center of the frame on the side where the flat tire is, if that makes any sense, and I ended up popping this big, weird lump in the back seat of my 84 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme and then I couldn't get the car to go up high enough to put the spare tire on.

But I would think that sewing buttons is pretty self-explanatory, honestly.

PS: Boobies.

xpost: Maybe!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

I think it has to be 1+ years older for it to really work.
-- n/a (nu...), December 1st, 2005 12:05 PM. (Nick A.) (later) (link)

Dating history:

1. SF: 8 months older
2. DE: 4 years, 5 months older
3. SW: 7 months older
4. KD: 1 year, 3 months older
5. RW: 2 years, 4 months older

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

You should be like me and Jeff and get a ladyfriend who's a little older than you. Then you feel eternally youthful.

And me!!

Except while fiancee may be 5 yrs older than me, she has a jaymc-like aversion to the practicalities of life.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

i had leaf change my bike tire, if that makes you feel better, john.

Haha, it reminds me of when you and Aar0n L1pke changed my flat car tire for me, though!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

And I'm not much better, but I'm learning. I even got a credit card this year!

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

find the oil plug under your car, unscrew it, drain oil into pan. replace oil with plug back in obviously. oh and change the oil filter before refilling.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) I suppose I'll have to get one of those someday, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

I know how to plaster.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

Credit cards are gross.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

I still don't like them as a concept, but they're good for these trips I have to take for work. If the company won't reimburse me for three weeks, then I might as well use fake money that I don't have to pay off for a few weeks.

Also, I LIKE BREASTS.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have one yet!

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

I think the other thing that's weird is that half of the people I know are responsible adults with 401Ks and condos, and the other half are broke as shit -- so I'm constantly torn between feeling like I'm doing pretty well for myself, since I have a nice chunk of change in my bank account, and then feeling like OMG what am I doing.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, of the members of my band, I'm like one of the three people that can be counted on to loan money, if necessary.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan OTM on both counts!!!

I have a regular credit card so I can buy books and then pay for them when my student loan checks come, and a Field's card because I saved a lot of money on my wedding dress when I opened an accout. I'm going to cancel that one when they change the name of the place to boring old Macy's though. Pfffbt.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have a credit card either. No one will give me one. :(

I think responsibility/money things are the kind of things where you can't compare yourself to others or you'll just feel bad. You just have to do what seems right for you.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

take some of that change from your savings an open a ROTH IRA.....hehehe. oh god, im out of here.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

Like, don't learn how to change your oil because everyone else knows how and it;s "responsible." Learn because you have a car and you want to save the $30 every few months.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I feel the same way. Sometimes like a babe in the woods (compared to friends who buy houses n' shit), sometimes super-responsible and square (compared to friends who live the rock n' roll lifestyle).

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have any extra money, but I've already mentioned that. So, way to go, jaymc!

I don't expect myself to learn how to change oil, but aren't you supposed to "top it off" sometimes?

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.contactmusic.com/images/reviews/timroth_.jpg http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/n.ireland/profiles/groups/Sinn.fein.party.logo.gif

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

I always freak out about money but then realize I have enough money to pay rent, buy food, pay bills, and get myself some cds or clothes once in a while, what else do I really need? It's just SOCIETY'S FAULT I TELLS YA.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think you are supposed to top off the oil unless the car is low on oil, which you find out by checking with the stick BUT if you get oil changes every three months and nobody says to you, "Hey, your car was like out of oil when you brought it in! You should check it and add some in between oil changes" then you are okay.

My understanding is that when the oil light comes on, it's way too late.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

i'm going to open a roth ira soon!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

(.) (.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

( v )

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

wait

( Y )

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

Stupid diff'rently-weighted strokes. Helvetica works better for making text boobs.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

You mean real boobs don't have serifs?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

Oooh look at the x-height on that cleavage.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

(*)

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

Or something.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

Is that what I think it is?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

That's not supposed to be a text representation of my boobs. I was trying to make a butt. I haven't spent enough time on IRC to really know how that works, though.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

))

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I thought that was a cooter, with an asterisk-clit.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

{ X }

Additionally, a re-post:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/j/w/jwv123/asshole.gif

Xpost hahaha cooter

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

NSFW!

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Cooter:

http://images.usatoday.com/life/_photos/2005/07/13/cooter.jpg

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

I used to refer to certain people as "coolies" but then was told that the word was sometimes slang for cooter.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

Coolies: The term "coolie" refers to unskilled laborers from Asia in the 1800s to early 1900s who were sent to the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Peru, North Africa, Sri Lanka and the West Indies. The term usually referred to Chinese, Indian, Japanese and Korean laborers and was often used in a derogatory way.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Quite different from Pavement fans, eh?

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I hear "coolie," I think transcontinental railroad.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

I used to refer to certain people as "coolies" but then was told that the word was sometimes slang for cooter.

This is why we need to stop our mutual friend L3ah from calling me "cunny."

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

sarcastic? i can't tell with the smarties.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

wha?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

I can't tell either, but I honestly and unsarcastically do think of Asian laborers when I hear the word coolie.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

I think of foam-rubber beer cozies.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I think of some redneck types I used to work with who called beers drunk while driving "road coolies." Also: "sign smackers."

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

I think of foam-rubber beer cozies.

My parents call these "coolies" and I always think, "Gosh, I wish they would use a different word," and then sometimes they call them beer coozies, which is somehow worse as far as mental imagery goes.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

I can't tell either, but I honestly and unsarcastically do think of Asian laborers when I hear the word coolie.

Yeah, so do I, that's what I meant.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

beer coozies

Sounds... yeasty.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

And then when one of those Asian laborers is doing a particularly good job, you say, "That's a grand coolie, damn!"

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Also, while I am certainly happy that you're off of 401ks, you may have all gone to far in the other direction.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Alternate form cunny is attested from c.1720 but is certainly much earlier and forced a change in the pronunciation of coney (q.v.), but it was good for a pun while coney was still the common word for "rabbit": "A pox upon your Christian cockatrices! They cry, like poulterers' wives, 'No money, no coney.' " [Massinger, 1622]

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

"For certeyn, olde dotard, by your leave/You shall have queynte right enough at eve...What aileth you to grouche thus and groan?/Is it for ye would have my queynte alone?"

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

Aaaahahahahaha

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Here she come now, say coney coney

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

coney punani

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

J., if you want to make your mark int he world, you must change your last name to Queynningham.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

I just rofled.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

What is wrong with you people? I leave the thread for a few hours and it's a disgrace by the time I get back.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

Yesterday it was giant penises and today it's Olde English cooter.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bennys-sports-tees.com/Olde%20English/yhst-3226295920127_1815_461403.gif

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Man, how have I never had udon noodles until today? These are great!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.geocities.com/NapaValley/3108/Coldcock1.gif

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

OH man I have like no work to do at all but my boss is here so it sucks. And I have to drive to Evanston after work. To fill out forms.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

I just thought of a great birthday present for Kelsey.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Malt liquor? A ride to Evanston? Forms?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

The Olde English label makes me think of Moody's and the whole "medieval grotto" style of the early/mid-1970s (co-opted by the Ground Round).

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) Haha, no, it was not inspired by this thread.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'm going insane.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

How do I know if I'm going insane? Is it just that insane...feeling?

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

Insane people don't go around saying things like "I think I'm going insane." That's kinda what insane means. Know you're insane would require sanity.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

knowING

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, the new rage among my friends who are bored at work is Sudoku puzzles. Ever check those out?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

I still love these games. But they may be a bit twee for most tastes. ("twee" here meaning "so sweet and cute and Japanese you want to gag")

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Leaving the -ing endings off your gerunds is a sure sing of insanity.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, a link would be nice, I guess.

http://www.ferryhalim.com/orisinal/

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

What's twee and cute about sudoku puzzles?

Saying "sing" instead of "sign" is a sure sing of it being time to leave the house for an hour or so.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

Ah Orisinal... That was a favorite of my multimedia design classes.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, the sudoku puzzles I was talking about are like this:

http://blogs.citypages.com/ctg/images/sudoku.gif

You have to fill in the squares using the digits 1-9, and every row and every 3x3 square cannot have any repeating numbers.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

What's twee and cute about sudoku puzzles?

Yeah, I don't get that, either. It's a box full of numbers.

I used to hate sudoku because it was super-trendy, now I just hate it because I tried it once and I couldn't figure it out.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

No, the twee was Orisinal, not Soduko.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah Orisinal is most truly twee.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

And the games are totally pointless. It's an exercise in enjoying the present moment, because there's no goal to any of them.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

I've tried Sudoko a couple of times but I think my brain just doesn't work that way, because I never got very far on them.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

This is my favorite one, and probably the least twee. There's an explody noise!

http://www.ferryhalim.com/orisinal/g3/bauns.htm

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand sudoku AT ALL. The whole charm of crossword puzzles is that they require a very specific command of language, the ability to think sideways, and a knack for categorizing various bits of stored information in extremely cross-referenced ways. Sudoku offers all the frustration of not being able to complete the grid without ANY OF THE JOYS.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I guess I understand why sudoku is so popular, in the same way that Rubiks Cubes were popular -- both logic puzzles that swept the nation -- but it all seems rather ... boring to me. Give me a crossword puzzle any day -- logic, yes, but also language skills and knowledge. (XPOST EXACTLY)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

I guess it makes sense then that all of my friends that are geeked out over sudoku are mechanical, electrical, and environmental engineers.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

I like picross better.
Every time I mention Sudoku around Adrian he says "Oh, I HATE those things, they're sooo easy." And then I hit him because I can't figure them out at all.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I prefer crosswords too.

― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

I prefer television.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

I kept trying to get my wife to try sudoku because she likes logic puzzles, but she was all "NO WAY, I hate math." It took me a while to convince her there was no math in it at all, and now she curses me for getting her started on them, especially since she spent from 2 a.m. to 4 a.m. one night working on one puzzle.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

Sudoku is fun.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever, Dartmouth.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

My dad loves sudoko, ergo it is a dadgame played by people interested in having dadfun (while listening to dadrock).

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

Wearing dadshirts.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

In bed with their momjean-wearing wives.

I just checked out a travel laptop from work for the express purpose of checking e-mail, ILX, and Kingdom of Loathing before I go to bed (during the trip I'm leaving for tomorrow).

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

;-)

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

And then when one of those Asian laborers is doing a particularly good job, you say, "That's a grand coolie, damn!"

c'mon, this was funny

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

I'd hazard a guess that those of us on the crossword side just don't love logic puzzles as much as we love word-games.

So, Dartmouth, let us know tomorrow if/when you'll be free in la cuidad. And if something gets planned over the weekend, someone will have to call me and let me know since I have no home computer.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

I'd hazard a guess that those of us on the crossword side just don't love logic puzzles as much as we love word-games.

None of you will ever be cool. Stop with the puzzles, already. Smoke some pot and listen to some music.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

Hey dude, watch it. My mom says I'm the coolest guy she knows, and I smoke pot and listen to lots of music and I'm very quiet and enjoy puzzles.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, there is room for both, Kenan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

Leaving tonight and doing the red-eye drive with two of my friends. Not sure what the plan is Friday*, Saturday is memorial service followed by I'm not sure**, and Sunday is for sight-seeing***!

*Just kidding! The plan is DRINKING!
** Fooled you! Again: DRINKING!
*** Yoink! Thought I was playing it straight, right? WRONG: I'll have a hangover and be able to see ANYTHING. You just got pwned, courtesy of the G-B-X. Holler.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Whatever. Nerds. My brain is oatmeal, and people like me for it.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

I aspire to this:

http://alumni.indiana.edu/profiles/images/will-shortz.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

Jay please aspire to better taste in wallpaper thx.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

A POP QUIZ! OH NOESSSSS!

1- What is your favorite cd album cover of all time and why?

2- When you hear music by the Fake Fictions, what image or images pop into your head?

3- When you read the name Fake Fictions, what image or images pop into your head?

4- When you read the phrase RAW YANG, what image or images pop into your head?

Thank you.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

When I read the phrase RAW YANG, I try to anagram it.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

I think of erasers when I read the name Fake Fictions.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

1. Nellie McKay, Pretty Little Head.

(Just kidding! That question is too hard: I don't have a favorite, I don't think.)

2. Solid colors. Bold. Jagged edges. But also fun and whimsical.

3. Books. Words. Hoaxes. Typewriter font. Detectives with spyglasses.

4. Eggs sizzling in a frying pan.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

GRAN WAY.
WAN GRAY.
AW, ANGRY.
WANG RAY.
RAG YAWN.
WARN GAY.

Etc.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

Lemme clarify: like the egg has just been cracked against the edge of the pan and the yolk is running out all gooeylike and onto the hot sizzle.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

1 - T. Rex "Electric Warrior" for giving 110% and being relentlessly OTM, rock-wise.

2 - I'll have to do this one after I've listened to more FF

3 - masks, books

4 - The words RAW YANG printed in enormous sans-serif fontface over a picture of a plate of food (uncooked vegetables arranged to suggest male genitalia)

xpost jaymc!

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

1. http://www.louisianamusicfactory.com/images/product/428.jpg

2. Nick & Sarah, but not Ben.

3. RAW YANG!

4. RAW YANG!

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

WANG RAY

Awesome.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

4. Eggs sizzling in a frying pan.
These are your brains on DRUGS!

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

http://animalpetdoctor.homestead.com/spycat.jpg

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

No one else would go for this.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

1. http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000691U0.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
Striking image.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000036XU.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
Ditto. Contrasts.

2. Home-make energy. A home-made toaster. Clutter. Something like Kelsey's kitchen at the end of the night but before people leave.

3. Probably something like our show poster - more "playing around" than "joking around". Not books or literary things, though, because the fun of the band name is that it's a phrase that would never be used seriously.

4. Sushi (raw + Asian).

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

Ugh! Here is the second image that didn't go through -
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000036XU.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

1. http://www.themuldoons.net/images/wreckcoverrsu.gif
...because it's wacky.
2. I think "I'm going to go to one of their shows eventually!" (Possible album title?)
3. big facades, puppeteers, a curtain opening on a stage (for some reason)
4. This kid Albert Yang that went to my school. He was nuts.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

a curtain opening on a stage (for some reason)

That's C4n4st4 you're thinking of.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

I think "I'm going to go to one of their shows eventually!" (Possible album title?)

One of the early contenders for our album titles (which I still kinda like) was "Let's Just Have Fun Out There Tonight."

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

Of course, that then reminded me of:

http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~zierke/folk/images/smallrec/iwanttoseethebrightlightstonight.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

That's a good title.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

"Just Happy To Be Here"

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

The thing about the drawing with the unicorns and bunnies above is that that's an LP by the band Fuck. If the band was called Unicorns and Bunnies, the cover would be nauseating. Contrast, contrast!

Quick: You're assigned to design a cover for a record called "Power, Corruption and Lies" - what would you put on the cover?

Answer in the morn (or google it).

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. I get it, Eric.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

Or, instead of contrast, you go for the perfect storm of title, sound, and cover art that takes the huge pile of money it is fucking ON and STRAIGHT NOGS IT ALL THE WAY TO THE FUCKING BANK.

A glam rock band called T.REX (kickass!) makes an album called Electric Warrior (kickass!) and produces this:

http://www.zonalibre.org/blog/surferrosa/archives/TRex___1a.jpg

NOGGIN' IT.

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

1. http://www.317x.com/albums/v/variousmambo/reduced.gif

2. Jean skirts and gym shoes.

3. Newspaper comic strips from the 50s and detective agencies.

4. Sex, actually.

xpost: evan = fucking hilarious.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

OMG, someone accidentally posted one of their personal e-mails to the company classifieds. It's all, "so yeah, it was me, that chick from the **** team that Joey fucked...she's cool but not really attractive in my book, I'd think about it if I was drunk." Holy shit.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

It contains the phrase "gobbling on my cock."

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

!!!

― giboyeux (skowly), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

BLOOPER!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

NOGGIN' ON MY COCK

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

As far as ****, I think you should try putting your dick in her and if she doesn’t want it than I’d quit wasting my time and hone in on the implementer or that hot foreign chick that lives across from you

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

I guess hiring kids out of college means you get fratboys as well as comp sci geeks.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

As far as ****, I think you should try putting your dick in her and if she doesn’t want it than I’d quit wasting my time

Dear god! How about finding out if she wants it before putting his dick in her?

Tell poor **** to pick up one of these, just in case.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. I'm not sure if I hope that the girls they talk about in this never read it (it's been deleted now) or that they do and tell these dudes to fuck off.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 1 December 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

Wow! That anti-rape device is crazy!

Nick is home sick today.

Evanston was pretty fun, considering it was dark and fucking cold. I hung out in the Urban 0utfitters there, which was all CLEAN and ORGANIZED. It was like the Bizarro U.O. We ate dinner at N00dles and C0mpany, which was tasty but might also be why Nick feels sick. Then we dropped in an arts supply store for a second to escape the cold and ran into Rache1's Ben.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 December 2005 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

The Fake Fictions: Gobblin' on my Cock.
With an ironic picture of a turkey fighting a rooster.

I think the "I Want to See the Bright Lights Tonight" is one of my favorite covers ever, because at first glance it's difficult to discern if it's horror (blood?) or whimsy (writing in condensation).

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 2 December 2005 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know where to begin. You guys made up for the endless talking about the investment-plan-that-dare-not-speak-its-name in spades.

For the record: my dad completed the NYT crossword 2000 days in a row and then he stopped counting. Up until then, he was counting. He also timed himself.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

He also used various highlighters to point out the clever tricks in the puzzles.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, how did your presentation go?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

GRAN YAW

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

FEATURING THE POO

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

soounds like a new Wu Tang album.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, what's going on tonight? I have to bow out of the craft shopping (grrrr) because Jeff is drinking with his coworkers and I'm going to go meet them, plus he also hung out with some law students with me on Wednesday so I owe him a round of professional development drinking event support. But then we would like to meet up with all those having drinks afterwards! So where you kids going? You can email me or just call one of our cell phones later if you don't know or don't want to plan now.

Also, I'm going to go to Depart-ment on Saturday, because I really think I can get a lot of Christmas shopping done there and I love craft fairs.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda story reminded me that I have a friend whose parents used to fight daily over who got to do the NYT crossword, so his sister got them a scanner for their anniversary so that they could both do it and stay happily married.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, how did your presentation go?

Mmmm, well, not so great, really.
1. I was really really nervous and sort of choked because I couldn't read my notes and talk at the same time and I kept forgetting what I was saying WHILE I was saying it, like mid-sentence. I think I officially have a public speaking phobia.

2. Not a single person in my class had ever even heard of Guided by Voices. Not one. They had never heard of the term "post-punk" either, nor did they know who Pavement was. This did not help to make my presentation more interesting.

3. I ran out of time and didn't get to play snippets of a couple of songs to illustrate my point, which did not help to get my point across, since I was not doing such a great job myself.

That said, I have given myself today to not beat myself up about it, not talk about it anymore and I will definitely meet you guys out for drinks after I'm done with my class tonight around 7.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Hi.

Things I have to accomplish during my "sick day":
1. FF album cover ideas
2. Rewrite lyrics for song I was supposed to have rewritten lyrics like 3 months ago
3. Finish reading book I'm reading
4. Start studying style guide/info for new job
5. Have online training session for computer program for new job
6. Hot bath
7. Nap

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

It sounds like it's going to be me, Sarah, and Kelsey going to Department and somewhere to eat, then us all meeting up somewhere for drinks around 7:00 or 8:00. So why don't you guys just decide on a time and place for us to meet for drinks, so that we don't have to call everyone at the last minute?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

8. Listen to Steely Dan records while Sarah is out of the house.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Do you want to drink in the general Fullerton/Damen area?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

are we eating before department or after?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Do you want to drink in the general Fullerton/Damen area?
At this point, I want to drink wherever anyone will let me.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

i am SO READY to have a drink. and probably a cigarette, although i'll try to refrain.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Hey guys. I'm leaving for my trip this afternoon, so I came into work late and spent the morning packing and making feta & olive omelets.

Apparently when I slid into the curb yesterday I lost a hubcap...do I need that or is strictly decorative?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know. Do you like Picante? I like Picante, but it's a take-out taqueria joint, so we'd have to eat somewhere else, like our apartment.

Also, Ben is coming with us to Department.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, have fun (I know, I know) on your trip! I also have no idea about hubcaps. I don't think my old car had any. Maybe you can get some spinnerz?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

NICK! HOW ARE THE CAAAAAATTTTTTTSSSSSSS??????????

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Does Sarah not allow Steely Dan in the house usually?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

I have not made an official statement about Steely Dan.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Who wants to decide where we're going tonight? I want to know so I can begin to envision myself there. I even wore a yucky old coat on purpose, since I didn't want to get a nice one all smoky. I. Am. Ready.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

I am unfamiliar with the taverns in the area of Damen/Fullerton. Or at least I think I am. If I could go there and look around, I would probably recognize where I was.

I'm direction-orientationally challenged.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

I know nothing in that area. That's why I need someone to point me in the right direction and drop kick me there.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

Wait wait: Damen and FULTON, not Fullerton, amirite?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

The intersection of Damen/Fullerton (and Elston) has few taverns, as far as I know. There is that Whirlyball place... and a bit farther down, Liar's Club. I'm sure there are more, but lack in-depth knowledge.

xpost And if it's Fulton I know nothing at all.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

The only place I know that's RIGHT there is Betty's Blue Star Lounge, on Damen and Grand -- except it turns into a dance club at some point in the evening, and I'm not sure when.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, Fulton. I am embarassing myself.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I don't suppose we have to go to a bar near the craft fair, but I guess that's something the craft-fair attendees will have to weigh in on.

So I'll just wait patiently for advisement.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Oh wait, sorry, Betty's is at Ashland and Grand.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Darkroom wouldn't be terribly far away (2200 W. Chicago).

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, but, um, everyone will be there for that FF show! J/k What is the Darkroom like? Is it THAT dark?

I like Club Foot and haven't been there in a while, though it can get really crowded. It might be fun to go to a bar at the MIlw/North/Damen intersection along with all the other millions of people who do that on the weekends. If we did that, we could go to Nik's, which is funny because of its name.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Also, the one time we went there it was completely empty, but I don't remember what day/time it was.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

We went to the wrightwood tap the other night, it was a little yuppish, but they have a metal refridgerated strip on the bar to keep your drink cool.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 2 December 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

Just an idea: remember how we were going to find a place with a well-stocked jukebox? Is there anywhere that fits that description that's also convenient and not yuppish?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I second the juke-box idea! I was even just thinking the very same thing.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Quenchers has an internet jukebox, don't know about the crowded though, on a friday night.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Nik's Beergarden has one too, but that place sucks.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Quencher's probably won't be that bad, but it's a ways from where you guys were talking about going. Not that I'm complaining, it's really close to me.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, does that mean you are hopping on the ILX party train? Because that would be wicked. Or, if you prefer, NOGGIN'.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever you guys wanna do is fine with me. As long as I can get a drink there and it doesn't cost the better part of $10, I'm happy.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

Straight noggin' it, boo.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Someone should sell that shit to the McD's advertising department.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Would you guys believe that my professor had NEVER SEEN the Red Eye? She lives in Chicago! Does she not walk with her eyes open?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Wicker Park is a little bit away from the Industrial Corridor where the art fair is, but it will only be Kelsey, Nick, Ben & I, so it's not that big a deal.

You know, I'm always up for everyone just hitting up the liquor store (D&D) and drinking at our apartment, but I guess that gets boring? It's cheaper anyway.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) Well, she obv. doesn't ride the el.

Does she know who Guided by Voices is?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

NO! She doesn't! And she fancies herself a British Invasion maniac. PUHLEEZE.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't really have anything to do tonight, so I should be NOGGIN'

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

I would kind of like to go to a bar, to be honest, but if the consensus is one of impromptu party at Sarah and Nick's, that's okay with me, too.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

i might fall asleep if we're at someone's house...

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

If you fall asleep you'll be straight NODDIN'.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

weighing in:

i prefer a bar, one that is low-key & cheap. i also prefer one that is easy-ish to get home from since i don't have my bike with me nor do i have my car.

i'm flexible as to where we go, but someone mentioned an internet jukebox, so may i remind everyone of: K's dug out AKA - the birthplace of the R. Kelly dance session!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

The Holiday Club by the sheridan stop has a pretty good juke box. I don't know how low key it is on a friday night though. THere's lots of room in there though.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

The Holiday Club is that shiny place, right?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

I have been there. I picked it as a Drunk Club before dining at some Nuevo-Mexicano restaurant across the street.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

How'd that work out for you?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

that sounds like "middle ground" in a way . . . sort of a halfway point from where everyone lives. As for crowds, we can probably not worry too much about it since it seems like we'll be there relatively early, right? do they have food? should we/can we kill two birds with one stone?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

It worked out fine, thank you.

Actually, Holiday Club would be super-duper-close to where I'll be coming from, too (having dinner at Anna Maria Pasteria at Clark/Montrose).

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

How does that work for the craft shoppers and Dan?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

You know it's ok with me if it's on the red line.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a craft shopper who is pro holiday club.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

i've been there once, are their drinks cheap? they do have a photo booth!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Shiny, roomy bar on the red line with a photo booth and a good juke box... I vote yes.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Red Line, eh? Probably doable. The Sheridan stop?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/NOG.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

(Sorry. That's what I did with my lunch break.)

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Dan - yeah, the Sheridan stop. It's the shiny gold bar that you can see from the train.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Holiday Club will limit the amount that I can drink, since we'll probably end up driving there and back, but I guess that might be a good thing. Betty's (according to Ice Factory dudes) is cool during the week but turns into a terrible yuppie dance meat market on Fri and Sat. I still haven't been to the Beachwood. Darkroom is supposed to be nice but there will probably be loud dance music later in the evening.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

BeechWood has always been low-key whenever I've been there. It is a lil' on the small side, but not in a bad way.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

I played MMMBop on the juke box there one time (unironically), and they turned off the jukebox and yelled at me. WHY WOULD YOU HAVE IT ON THE JUKE BOX IF YOU DON'T WANT SOMEONE TO PLAY IT???????

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 2 December 2005 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahaha, jerks.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

FYI: Department to Holiday Club requires two buses - Damen and Irving Park.

I don't think that's too bad at all, but I like to ride buses and generally prefer CTA at all costs to driving, especially when bars are involved.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

Two buses on most days: not bad.

Two buses when it's so cold you can't feel anything below your knees: bad.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Very good point.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

But still better than driving drunk/having to rely on my own will power to limit my beer intake.

But, um, I have some problems.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

Just balance it out with cocaine. You'll be fine to drive.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Yay! I've always hoped Holiday Club would be cool, because it looks fun from the outside.

Kelsey, Were you planning on coming to our neighborhood right after work? The craft thing starts at 7 and I think we should be there right when it kicks off before it gets all picked over.

Jenny, I thought you were no longer going to the craft fair? Nick will drive to HOliday.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

My class ends at either 7 or 7:30, so I will be at the HC probably around 8 if anyone else will be there? I'm afraid that I'll be the only one there that early...

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

I have no idea where to go after work. Should I grab food & meet you at Department? Should I get myself to Wicker Park? The decisions! The choices!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

Does everyone or someone have the everyone else's phone numbers that we need? I have: amanda's, john's & i should have nick & sarah's, but i don't think i do.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

i have kelsey, john, sarah, jenny

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, you are correct. I am not going to the craft fair. I was just offering bus routes as a public service.

Kenan - HA. Is the Holiday Club a COCAINE BAR????

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

jenny, i'm sorry my dream started those nasty rumors!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

It's absolutely perfect outside. I wish the highs were in the 20s everyday.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Also, for transportation, you could take a north bus to north/clyborn redline, or it's like a 5 dollar cab ride.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

Five dollars! A heated cab! Back seat all to yourself! You can make out with somebody if you want to! Man, why would you go any other way?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

C or D: Making out in cabs.

C: Crazy enough to be fun without being so crazy that it's, um, not fun. Making out is always a classic.

D: Cabs don't smell good sometimes. Odds are good you're not the first people to make out back there. Possibility of serving as wank-fodder for cab driver during late-night lull in fares.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

C: you're probably going to get some that night, if you're sharing a cab and making out.

D: the cab driver takes the senic route while you're not paying attention.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

If that cab driver could be in one of my classes someday? Big time dud.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

We had a lady cab driver the other night, the first one I've ever seen. Also, she had the window rolled down part of the way, which sucked.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, city life...

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

I had to cab it to and from the show at the Hideout last night - on the way there, the driver was playing a warped cassette of music from Guniea (sp) - really good Afropop...and on the way home the driver, who told me he was a Muslin, was asking what kind of music I played and said that some songs made him cry so he sometimes couldn't listen to them, and he turned up a ballad that was on the radio and told me it was Mariah Carey (I hadn't heard it before - sounded like it was from the early 90s) - I gave him one of my CDs, and he offered to take it in lieu of cabfare, but I paid him half the meter...

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

(Muslin! What am I saying!)

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Cabs are an awesome place to make out. Even to do... other slightly more advanced stuff. C: female orgasms in the back seat. D: male orgasms in the back seat.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

Yay! My friend 3rica might come with tonight. She's super cool, and guys :(read: jaymc and ?) she's single!

Wait, I said I'd never hook anyone up again. You're on your own.

jaymc & kelsey: she's the one who introduced me to N0elle and Jas0n. ...and a bunch of other random SAIC students.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

hot cha cha! art students!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe she knows the 19-year-old.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

ps -- Eazy, I emailed you a weird theater-related question.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

It's possible, but she (and the bulk of her friends I've met) are grad students. So maybe they had the 19-year-old in a class?

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

"had"

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

HOTT

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 December 2005 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

Gross.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

where are nick & sarah?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

that was not to imply that nick & sarah "had" each other in class. i was genuinely asking!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

someone in my office smells like grape scratch-n-sniff stickers.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

Hi. I'm here now. I was working and in between working I was trying to identify all 75 bands in this Virgin game here:
http://www.heavy.com/heavy.php?channel=virginGame

I got a third of them and then gave up.

Also, I'm really tired. I'll need to take a nap when I get home (QUEL SURPRIS!) What did you think about grabbing some Picante and just eating at my apartment before heading to the art shindig? (or you could grab food from Sultan's Market). Alternatively, we could go somewhere like Earwax together. Thoughts?

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

All of that sounds do-able to me! How to I get to your joint? Also, can you email me your phone number? I know I had it at one time, but I don't have it now for whatever reason.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

checkitycheck your email,kels.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:32 (nineteen years ago)

yay! as it turns out, i had your number all along!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Friday, 2 December 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

I want some alcohol.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

Now?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

YES!

I had this really bad headache, so I took some ADVIL. So now I'm feeling all mellow but want to feel more mellow. BRING ON THE MELLOWNESS!

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

Advil makes you mellow? I need something a little heavier.

Will anyone be at the HC when I get there around 8? It's fine if you're not. I'll be the one in the giant wool skirt.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

I'm off to me class, see y'all in about 4 hours!!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

Bye! I don't know when we'll get there, Amanda. Nick has an online training thing. As soon as that's done, we'll eat. As soon as that's done, we'll art fair it. As soon as we're done there, we'll head over to Holiday. I'll have my celly with me.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

I have to work tonight. :(

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

Some concerty plans for tonight fell through, but I'm working late - I may make it to the HC if I'm not too knackered.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

Were you going to see Lady Sovereign in Montreal?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

Heh! Close! I was going to see Melissa Ferr1ck at Martyrs with one of my sapphic friends, who, it turns out, is working long hours and wants to cancel - which is perfect, because I've been really overextended as well.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

But my housemates are all going to see Sybris at Schubas this eve - I'm guessing they won't go on 'til after 11, so if you want a nightcap...

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

Bye all... will probably see you all tonight, unless I don't wake up from my nap!

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

You'll sleep when you're dead. For now, we've got a lot of drinking to do.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Friday, 2 December 2005 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

It's not that I'm still at work. It's not that you're all drinking tonight and I'm not. It's that not a single one of you is around to amuse me in the meantime.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 3 December 2005 00:41 (nineteen years ago)

You never know. (Got dinner, back at work.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 3 December 2005 00:50 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Dan, what happened?

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 3 December 2005 07:21 (nineteen years ago)

Hey! I'm not at work anymore!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 3 December 2005 07:26 (nineteen years ago)

In fact, I've returned from some from artistic exploits. I took this picture tonight:

http://giganticmag.com/images/ilx/another_skyline.jpg

Remember when I was always taking pictures and posting then on Chicago threads? Well... I'm back, baby.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 3 December 2005 07:28 (nineteen years ago)

haha. that's really nice. i need to start taking photos now that i have a CAMERA. i just don't know where to begin.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 3 December 2005 07:30 (nineteen years ago)

I love so many things about the Chicago skyline, but that picture highlights one of my favorites: down in front of the really gargantuan buildings, the 1930 skyline still remains, right along S. Michigan Ave and distinctly more orange than the rest of the skyline. It's like the skyline has two layers.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 3 December 2005 07:33 (nineteen years ago)

John, I took that picture with THE SAME EXACT CAMERA THAT YOU OWN.

You begin with taking pictures. Lots of them.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 3 December 2005 07:34 (nineteen years ago)

And for night shots like that, buy a tripod. Mine cost twenty bucks.

There's a neat little timer feature on the camera that eliminates the need for a remote shutter button -- just set the timer for two seconds, snap the shutter, and pull your hand away. By the time the camera stops shaking, it's the same effect as if you'd never touched it at all. Saves money and time.

(Specifically to John: While in "picture taking" mode, as opposed to "picture viewing mode," hit the "function" button, labelled FUNC. That enables a menu on the left of the screen that you can now scroll through with the up and down arrows -- ok, not arrows, but the main nav buttons. Scroll down to the empty square, and the bottom of your screen will say "drive mode." That's your timer. Set it for ten seconds, two seconds, or a custom setting which you can set for as many seconds as you like and/or multiple photos.

It's a really neat little camera.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 3 December 2005 07:46 (nineteen years ago)

)

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 3 December 2005 07:52 (nineteen years ago)

I got my first-ever digital camera this week - haven't set it up yet (Powershot bling bling) but am excited.

Nick, Sarah - we got lucky. N and S dropped me off at my place, and about five minutes later I hear a bunch of screeching and crunching outside, and I go to the window to see that a car had rammed into two cars in front of my front door -- slammed into one hard (the car is about two-thirds its original size) and then drove away - and that's the exact spot where they dropped me off a few minutes earlier...

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 3 December 2005 07:59 (nineteen years ago)

(Great photo, K. - really great.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 3 December 2005 08:01 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks!

Maybe I'll post another. You're tempting me.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 3 December 2005 08:02 (nineteen years ago)

DON'T DO IT, IT'S A TRAP

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 3 December 2005 08:34 (nineteen years ago)

Someone is welding something outside my window. I keep trying not look, because it's like looking at the sun. But it's so hard not to look! How many times do you see welding going on outside your window?

I have a business meeting this afternoon. I don't know how to do a business meeting, not in an official capacity. All I can do is tell the guy what I know. Hopefully, that's all he wants.

And since the deadline for this thing is next freakin' week, and all he's done for 4 months is hem and haw over specifics of the design and change his mind every ten minutes, I'm going to have to say to him, "Look, we don't have time to redesign this. I don't have that kind of time, and neither do you. The best thing for us to do right now if for you to point out to me what you like about the old designs and what you don't, and we'll put something together that encorporates as many elements that you like as possible, and we'll run with it. We have to move on this." I hope I can convey the kind of urgency that he'll respect. I'm all business, after all.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 3 December 2005 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

I like that picture a lot, Kenan! I used to use your Chicago photos as desktop wallpaper, before I posted on this board. Also, good luck at your meeting! I would like to observe Business Meeting Kenan.

EAZY that is the kind of creepy thing that gives me the creeps.

JOHN I'm listening to B&S right now and you're right and I like it, despite my generally negative feelings about rock musicals. It makes me want to get up and do group dances.

What else... Nothing. I'm hungry. Somebody bring me a bagel.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 3 December 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

I would like to observe Business Meeting Kenan.

I know, right? So would I.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Saturday, 3 December 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry about bailing so early last night. I don't think I can drink anymore. never thought I'd say that.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Saturday, 3 December 2005 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmmm.

The 19-year-old just wrote me back, finally.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 3 December 2005 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

and...

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Sunday, 4 December 2005 01:47 (nineteen years ago)

And I think she wants to hang out sometime soon.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 4 December 2005 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

yay!

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Sunday, 4 December 2005 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

Hubba hubba!

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 4 December 2005 06:35 (nineteen years ago)

Quiet, you.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 4 December 2005 06:42 (nineteen years ago)

Nineteen-year-olds are trouble.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 4 December 2005 07:31 (nineteen years ago)

Probably.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 4 December 2005 07:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'd bet money on it. Cash money.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 4 December 2005 07:37 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps the kind of trouble that's worth the trouble.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 4 December 2005 07:44 (nineteen years ago)

In my case, this is almost certainly true.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 4 December 2005 07:46 (nineteen years ago)

The only drawback for John that I can see is that there aren't two nineteen year olds.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 4 December 2005 07:53 (nineteen years ago)

Or one thirty-eight-year-old.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 4 December 2005 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

NYC i am inside you!

― giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 4 December 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.smartguy.dk/VareBilleder/5040_Presentation.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Sunday, 4 December 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

Jib, WHERE YOU AT??

― Laurel (Laurel), Sunday, 4 December 2005 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.kinopolis.de/filminfo/m/img/manhattan02.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 4 December 2005 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

not sure....lower east side?

― giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 4 December 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

Do you already have plans for this evening? Am at work in midtown and looking v schlumpy but could meet around dinner.

― Laurel (Laurel), Sunday, 4 December 2005 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I've got a pretty full dance card: heading to other music (close, apparently!) and then to a preview screening of some film this evening (apparently me and my buddy qualify as movie execs). Tomorrow is work work work.

― giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 4 December 2005 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

Right then, enjoy New York! (Esp on the company dime.)

― Laurel (Laurel), Sunday, 4 December 2005 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

Will do! Thanks for the invite, though!

― giboyeux (skowly), Sunday, 4 December 2005 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Quick reminder plug: FREE SHOW at Cleary's on Clark (3484 N. Clark) tonight, featuring two CHILX faves - The Fake Fictions and Eric Ziegenhagen. Not only is it free, we might be able to get you a free drink or two. And our company is free. And I think we're "DJing" between and after sets, but I'm not sure. Anyways, it's at 8:00 sharp.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 4 December 2005 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

(DJ, at least for me = pre-burned CD, as opposed to responding to the ebb and flow of the dance floor by digging in my crate and choosing between the Belgian white-label jam from my friend Piet in Antwerp or the unreleased Kenny "Dope" Gonzales jam I taped off of a SUNY-Long Island radio show in 1994.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 4 December 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

Man, that sounds like fun. I am on page 6 of my 15-page paper that I have to finish today. Not bad, considering...

I have to descend into cheezitude for one moment here -- it was really fun hanging out with you guys on Friday!! It totally hit the spot and I look forward to it happening again rill soon.

Good luck tonight Fictions and Eazy!! I wish I could be there.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 4 December 2005 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Eazy, why am I not surprised that you have a friend named Piet in Antwerp?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

O Manda, but there is no Piet, I was just making up excuses for not doing "live" DJ-ing. I do have some Kenny "Dope" Gonzales in the CD collection, though...

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 07:28 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, are you going to upload our lovely Top Model shot? (you have it, right?) I had lots of fun too! This was a good weekend, even though Nick made me watch Black Adder II with him.

My toes are still cold from my short walk from the parking lot to my office this morning (and that was @30 minutes ago).

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

I had a dream last night where I was at a talent show/concert, and Jenny played angry riot grrrl songs on the guitar and sang. Then Hari Ashrust's (another ILXor, for those of you who don't venture outside of this thread) band played, but it was just him and one other dude trying to play along with a video feed of themselves playing, and it wasn't working and a sarcastic girl in the audience was making fun of them.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Hi guys. Was the sarcastic girl Angry Riot Jenny?

I have to find a scanner so I can get the photo online -- maybe someone at work can do it for me. Then again, most people with scanners don't like me all that much*, so that's not going to be easy, but I'll try.

*because I snap at them constantly.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

PS - Haha Eazy, I thought you really had a friend named Piet. Silly me.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning, Chicago, I'm back. I flew to L.A., worked one 13 hour shift, and then got sent home the next morning because we were overstaffed. Can't say I'm displeased about it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

But, you GUYS, I was eating an octopus tostada somewhere in California the other night, and they had pay-per-view boxing on in the restaurant and the national anthem was sung by R. KELLY!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

Welcome back, Jordan.

I brought my sock monkey supplies to work with me today to play with during lunch and after work (before I go pick up Nick). I really wish I could just spread it out all over my desk and get to stitchin'.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Oh say can you see...THIS IS A REMIX, THIS IS A REMIX OF THE NATIONAL ANTHEM...by the dawn's early light...PEEP THIS, EXCLUSIVE REMIX HA HA...what so proudly we hailed...UH UH, YEAH, HA HA.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

He squeezed it into 4/4 Marvin Gaye-style. It wasn't "Livin' in America", but it was pretty tight.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

I had a wonderful time at the FREE CONCERT last night!

I hope Jesse wasn't too terrible after we left. He was gearing up for another night of specialness.

Also, what happened with John and that girl he beat up?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, one more thing -- I made venison chili this weekend and used elements of Evan's recipe. It turned out pretty well, but sort of intense. Maybe next time I'll put more beer and not as many spices. I think I sort of overdid it on the spices. It's not too spicy, but it's definitely too something. It sort of tastes more like Indian food than chili.

Note -- the venison came from my father-in-law, who hunted and butchered it himself. I didn't purchase it in a store.

Whoa -- what happened last night?!?!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah and I left not too long after you guys did, so I don't have the answers to your questions. The worst thing I saw Jesse do was try and persuade John to drink more beer, so I guess he was on his good behavior last night.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

John came back into the bar with a drunk gal - I thought they might have gone outside to make out, but he assured me they were just hitting each other.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

That's not subtle at all. If you're gonna touch each other, make it the nice touch!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

(That chili sounds delish.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

Was it that crazy Scottish woman? All of the regulars at that bar were weird: the woman who booked the show (who, as far as I can tell, ONLY wears backless shirts), the drunk Scottish woman (who was actually very nice, just drunk and Scottish), the pack of drunk Irish soccer hooligans in the back, the guy who brought the second mic who stuck around and was very complimentary but was really excited that we played his favorite Velvet Underground song (which is weird because it's not a particularly obscure song, and I bet like 8,000 bands have covered it).

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

ugh.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

uh oh. that doesn't sound good.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

i beat up a drunk girl and went home with a strange man. i think i'm still drunk, actually. this is not good.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

to be fair, she beat me up, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

I can't even...imagine this. WHAT??

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah...huh?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

what part?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand the "beating up" part.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

The "drunk" part and "strange man" part I'm familiar with. Hehe.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Was the phrase "Care to take this outside?" uttered at any point?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

i think so. and i said, "yes. yes i do."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

seriously, though, all of that seems so tame to me compared to waking up in a strange bed this morning.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

i wonder if jesse made it home all right. i left him at clarks on clark.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

I can't imagine the part where Jay a) gets in a fight b) WITH A WOMAN.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 5 December 2005 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

it wasn't a real fight!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

i need to stop drinking, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

also i went behind the bar and alexis yelled at me. i think she was really mad.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

That's OK, she's weird.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

also, the scottish girl wasn't really scottish. her mom is scottish and her dad is native american.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think you were there when Ben and I were trying to figure out the PA because there was no sound guy and nothing was set up right and I accidentally made it feed back really loud, and she came over and half-jokingly said "Yeah, could you not make that sound again? Thanks." I almost fought with a woman at that point too.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

She should get mad at that - it's a bar in Wrigleyville, and the booze and the cash are behind the bar!

The Scottish gal had finished her day shift (at the bar) when I got there early in the eve. I spent an hour talking with some very drunk Bears fans before you guys showed up.

I like Alexis.

Clark's on C, J.? That's kind of skiing the black diamond slopes, isn't it?

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

She should get mad at that - it's a bar in Wrigleyville, and the booze and the cash are behind the bar!

oh i know.

Clark's on C, J.? That's kind of skiing the black diamond slopes, isn't it?

i have no idea what that means.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

http://skiing.lifetips.com/cat/59445/ski-trail-tips/

Tip: Black Diamond
Mostly, the black diamond ski slopes of North America have the potential to humble, if not maim or decapitate, you. Test a ski resort’s black diamonds only when you have your affairs in order and are willing to lose your left ski by the lift tower, your right ski by the woods, and your spleen by the advertisement for lip balm with sun screen.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

haha. well i met him at big chicks.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure Alexis is a delightful person, I'm just being a jerk as usual. It was a good show and they treated us swell, what with the free food and free booze and $$$.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Hi guys.

My work life is a boiling cauldron of insanity. My personal life is wonderful. It's always something, ain't it?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Big Chicks is a much better place to meet men than Clark's on Clark, which as far as I can tell from Jesse's stories, is mostly just a good place to ruin your life.

I remember that sound! It happened as I was taking a bite of Jeff's weird and pretty gross grilled cheese sandwich (pesto should be a condiment, not a major sandwich ingredient) and I said, "This sandwich is the culinary version of that sound."

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, tell us about the good part.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, maybe you should be a lumberjack. Maybe I should be a lumberjack too. We can start a lumberjack collective.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

Hipster lumberjacks

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

Sheesh. I came into Worker Justice, Inc. to answer emails and check voicemails only to find that I have nothing to do.

Now I just have to hang out for a couple hours and then go my merry way.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, remember that company e-mail that I posted about last week?

Those dudes - FIRED.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

That's about as "for cause" as you can get, termination-wise. I'll bet **** is breathing a sigh of relief right now.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, maybe you should be a lumberjack.

Maybe the kind who likes to press wildflowers.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

SO JOHN TELL US MORE ABOUT YOUR MAN-FRIEND (I feel like this is the elephant in the room and I am going to address it head-on).

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

he's not a friend. i don't even know his last name. we didn't trade numbers or anything.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

he has sensitive nipples.

i don't know what you want to know.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't know either. This just seems like an un-John thing to do so I was asking about it.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.branaghcompendium.com/kenwood.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

yes, i know, i was just saying how i never have one-night stands. it wasn't really worth it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

So are you going to try to see him again or anything?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

no, i don't really have any interest in him.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Not every bar can be a Genius Bar.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

Ahh, these things happen, don't pay it any mind.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

oh i know!

what's with the woody photo?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

Well, yesterday it made sense to have the Woody-with-a-19-year-old photo....

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

(you know half of this is 'ugh what did i do' and the other half is bragging ... kinda)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't get that either. oh, now i do.

but i don't want to compare jaymc to woody allen. woody allen is gross. i'm just gonna say it. woody allen is gross.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds about right.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

i like woody.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

It's not easy finding a photo of Woody Allen with a man. That took work.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Liking woody is ok. Liking Woody Allen is not. ha ha.

But seriously folks, I like some of Woody Allen's movies, but he's still kind of gross in real life as far as I can tell. I mean, he obviously has issues with women.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

i think we've been over this before. i'm sure he makes delightfully self-absorbed movies, but as a person, i think he's gross.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

gross like a fox!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha

I'm in a silly mood today. Also, I just ate a ton of chocolate covered cranberries. YUM!

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Never heard of that combo before (chocolate/cranberries) - sounds good. Seems like there are more and more confections that combine chocolate with non-sweet things (ginger, curry, wasabi, etc.).

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Mole!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

http://universe-review.ca/I10-82-mole.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Are you familiar with Craisins? They are making them now (chocolate/crainsin combo), but for a limited time only.

NEWSFLASH!
I hate it when people call the office on speakerphone. I can just imagine this guy sitting at his huge desk in his spacious fancy office, leaning back in his fancy office chair saying, "This is so-and-so. Get so-and-so on the phone Please. I need to speak to him immediately."

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

the best is when they say "ay-sap"

ok, i'll do that "ay-sap."

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

I hate it when people call the office on speakerphone.

You are cold and cruel. Can't you tell that the man HAS NO HANDS??!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe so, but he has a very big head to make up for it.

JOHN! Feel free to disregard this, but had you been with a muchacho before?

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

yeah. he was my fourth!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

"Been with."

You know, I once listened to D'Angelo with John and Nick, but that don't make it a three-way.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

halfway to a threeway.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://tisue.net/orourke/covers/threeway.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

I had no idea, John!

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

i was going to make a list, with dates, but then realized that would be kind of creepy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't've known either if I hadn't seen his Friendster profile...

xpost - That's good judgement, J - ILX is 4-eva.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

(word on the street is that John is bisexual. and isn't familiar with much classic rock.)

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

It's not really sex until somebody gets blown in the back of a cab.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

(Which I guess makes me a virgin.)

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

Me too! Purity at last!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

That would totally make me a virgin!

XPOST! JINX! You owe me a Coke!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Things I have done in the back of a cab:

Sleep.
Eat sushi.
Cry.
Talk on the phone.
Read.
Stare out the window.
Smooch a little.
Fight.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

I had no idea, John!

When we were hanging out at the Mexican place next to the Green Mill, I think John's bisexuality was the first thing that was mentioned! That, and the superfluous nipples.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

I rarely take cabs. I miss out on so much.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

wait, i don't have superfluous nipples.

i'm beginning to regret how much of a confessional drunk i am. i'm remembering some things i said at the holiday club the other night.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

This is why I no longer speak to anyone.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't talk to you hardly at all, J., so you didn't say anything to me. I do remember about the nipples though.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

I tend to spill tons of beans when drinking too. Haven't lately, that I know of.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, wait. Yes I have. I take that back.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

The good news is that I only spill my own beans. No one else's.

Lunchtime.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

omg i just touched my chest and i'm like why am i sore there and then remembered that girl's flying fists.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, I missed that story somehow. Plz recap.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

I am sore, but from going to the gym and then lugging band equipment around, not from fighting girls.

Sleeeeeeepy.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

I think maybe I tend to clam up when drunk, but maybe I just don't have much of interest to say.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

kenan read the thread.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

She had so many chips on her shoulder: tirades against The Rich, The Catholic, etc.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

xpost I just did read the thread. Decided that would be the best move.

You woke up with him? Oh, I didn't realize that. I thought it was just some innocent-like messing about.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

i don't remember her tirades. we actually had a good (albeit drunken) conversation about the challenges of her pursuing a life as an artist (painter/sculptor), and then we fought, and then every time i tried to talk to her afterwards she accused me of "following [her] around."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

I talk ALOT when I'm drunk, but I usually feel worse about giving everyone my life story than regretting giving away any secrets. Mostly I worry I bore people.

In other news, I do believe someone can be bisexual without ever having done anything sexual with the same sex (or opposite sex).

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

i sort of believe in the "everyone's bisexual, even if it's just an eensy-weensy little-bitty bit" line, insofar as happening to find a member of the same sex good-looking is but an inch on the vast spectrum -- but i also don't really like the term "bisexual" and saying that just sounds self-righteous, anyway.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.jensincero.com/0743258533.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

sweet jesus. what the hell happened last night?! i missed out because of a problem with the washing machine & the fact that i'm so fucking busy this week that last night is the only night i had to do laundry.

in other news: i just met with a personal trainer who has the personality of a dish towel. i got dizzy & almost fainted & then we had a "nice chat" about diabetes. i told him i was seeing my doctor on thursday [truth] & that helped. otherwise, i mostly feel embarassed.

also: i got a plane ticket to minneapolis! less than $200! i don't have to rent a car anymore!! or drive for six hours!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

(nice going with the cheap-ish ticket, Kels, and nice seeing you Friday night! enjoy the 55-minute plane ride!)

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

It's hard not to keep staring at that book cover.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome.

I spent a lot of time at the Mpls airport yesterday. Played some Ms. Pac Man, got out the drum sticks, had a good grilled cheese at the place that makes their sandwiches on a choice of organic men's bread, organic women's bread, or healthy hemp bread.

I even got a glimpse into the elite, privileged world of the Worldclub Lounge! They have free beer and cookies in there!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

Do we really need different sexes of bread? I'm against the politics of bread gender.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

Do you really want to risk high estrogen content in your bread, Kenan?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

I want my bread more like...

http://greenehouse.net/img/hedwig.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Angry bread.

http://thecia.com.au/reviews/h/images/hedwig-and-the-angry-inch-5.jpg

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

I don't want estrogen in my bread either!

I was wondering where you were, Kelsey. Hieeee.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

i feel so fucked up right now. physically, that is. i don't know what to do so that my body feels normal. more protein?!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

What feels wrong?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you ate pretty healthy -- what could be wrong? Are you not eating enough food?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Mama's concerned.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

I have an enormous headache, I have little bouts of chills. i just feel wrong, i guess. but all of this has happened after my session with the personal trainer where i felt dizzy.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

Dizzy could mean that you're not consuming enough food to keep your body going, couldn't it? I think you should eat more fish. Do you ever get the tuna steaks from TJ's? They defrost pretty fast and I have some good recipes for sauces and stuff that are easy and healthy...let me know if you want em. I don't want you to be passin' out and shit!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

Or maybe you have a cold.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

I am ssoooooooo sleeepy but I'm worried if I make coffee it won't wake me up, it'll just make my heart beat really fast and make me feel wacked out.

We had some intense FF album cover discussion yesterday. Difficult.

I cna't type anymore.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

i think it's a blood sugar thing. i suddenly feel like my body is so fucking weird. i probably overeat, but it's the wrong things or something. i've been to scared to cook fish at home, honestly. i do love tuna steaks, though.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

scared of what?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsey, you come over! I'll make some for you and you won't be scared anymore.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

I made the fuck out of some tuna steaks last week. I think I just used teriyaki sauce.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsey, It sounds to me like the trainer needs to lighten up on you a little. I get dizzy/fainty very easily, but I always have. It helps to have lots of healthy snacks around you for munching to prevent feeling sick, but you know that.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 December 2005 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda's "Are you eating enough food" is my "are you drinking enough water." As in, Jeff will say, "I stubbed my toe and it hurts" and my immediate response is, "Are you drinking enought water? I'll get you some water."

My cure for everything is more water. Then Advil. Then tea. Then sleep. And then clearly if none of that works, we're dealing with something bigger than both of us.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

i've been drinking water . . . took two advil. so far, nothing. i suppose tea is next!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'm with Jenny on the water thing. I'm constantly offering people water.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Me too. All the time. And, this being the funny world that it is, Maddie HATES drinking water, at least if it's the boring kind without bubbles.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Hates drinking water? That's really weird. Does she also hate sunshine?

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Water's great and helps with everything... but it's not going to give your body the fuel it needs if what it needs is fuel! That's assuming that what it needs is fuel, or more efficient fuel.

This lady I work with "hates water" too. She thinks it's "gross."

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

i used to hate drinking water b/c it is a boring drink.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

I've known people like that, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

It's not a very exciting bevvie.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

There's a soda machine with free drinks at my job, so it's tempting to drink Diet Coke all day instead of water.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

No, she's a little goth but she loves sunshine.

xpost, water tastes good! It makes me feel pure and clean and healthy, much like pizza and cookies do not.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, at first I thought you meant "little goth" as in "tiny goth," like:

http://www.yumikoawae.com/ryden.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

This lady I work with "hates water" too. She thinks it's "gross."

Given cola since birth, probably. Fucking America.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

C'mon, I hate water too! I go for herbal tea w/ a minimum of honey, instead.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

The best beverage in the WORLD is a big glass of plain tap water on the morning after you've drank most of a bottle of whiskey by yourself.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Water is so good.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like drinking water.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

Care to take this outside?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone drink kool-aid anymore?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

:flashback:

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

On my way back from lunch, I started giggling over an imagined sign at a retail shop: "Say Thank You! We Imply It Every Day!"

This may be the three hours of sleep talking.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

"Lemonade was a popular drink, and it still is."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

Three hours of noggin'.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

No, the noggin' was before I went to sleep.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

I guess it should be 'noggin', with the S and the G removed.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Can someone tell me if that sign is actually funny or not? I'm serious, I can't read it without laughing. Am I nuts?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

a little, i think.

hahahahaha!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get it.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Kelsey (and anyone else who's curious, obv, hello chicago...) I used to get these dizzy spells and nauseau that started in my mid-20s and would mess me up. So I fucked around with a bunch of different things - supplements, diet changing, exercise, etc. But it turned out to be a blood sugar issue (I discovered this on my own, not through blood tests/doctors though) - so what I did, and still do to this day (though I slip sometimes - hello, late-night bagels), is eat low or no carbohydrates (bread, rice, sugary things, tropical/high-sugar fruit, etc) for breakfast and lunch and then eat whatever you want for dinner, actually make sure it does contain carbs (don't go nuts). Can have a snack in there in the morning and/or afternoon too if you're really active, but low carb. Anyway, this totally stabilized my blood sugar and I stopped feeling terrible after only a few days! But it's good you're going to the doctor too! anyway, an idea.

(okay this has been an interesting day to choose to wander into the Chicago thread for the first time...)

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

oh boy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha!

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 5 December 2005 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

isn't it bad to have carbs before you go to bed though?

i think i have weirdness & i don't doubt it's related to blood sugar . . . i think that i often have a "window of opportunity" for when i should eat & i didn't take the window today. three hours later, still feeling like poo, but better poo than before.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

If I don't eat I get headaches and fatigue.

(If I do eat I get fat.)

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

THAT'S MY PROBLEM EXACTLY!!!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

Well, there are different schools of thoughts on that, K. Some nutritionists/doctors think eating carbs in the evening, esp with going lower-carb during the day, actually lets you relax more and have a better sleep. It's all about seritonin and adrenalin and blood sugar balance - our bodies are crazy about the balance! So, you have to do what's good for you to do. Hence all my experiments on self... But also, regulation is key here too - if you've got blood sugar issues, then you shouldn't go for more than 4hrs w/o eating, even a handful of almonds or a piece of cheese is better than nothing in this case.

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

oh hey, and if you watch calories and don't eat crappy food during dinner, this is also a good diet for weight loss and maintaining a decent weight!

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

i hardly go two hours without eating most days . . .

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

Food is a blessing. Just have a little more vino/whiskey (with water later!) and a little less beer.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

"tropical fruit" is funny to me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

that's because you're "a little" nuts.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

someone's slap happy today...

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

i hope you're talking about john b/c i'm just whiney today.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

seriously, though! i am having to suppress my laughter. "what's that? oh, no, sorry, no pineapple for me. i don't eat tropical fruit in the morning."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

you guys are lame.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

John, go to bed.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

I imply it every day.
xpost to mr.tropical fruit sends me into hysterics

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

stop that!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

but i'm laughing too now!

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsey, could it have something to do with not drinking for a while and then drinking on Fri. night?

I don't know if Sarah "hates" drinking water, but she does a bad job of drinking water on a regular basis. She gets dehydrated a lot.

Hey, new "Arrested Development" on tonight.

― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Johnny-o. You need some sleep. Hop into your tropical suit and get some zzz's dude. It'll be topically cute.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

that's a lovely poem.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

well, "not drinking for awhile" was a week. i drank over thanksgiving. i'm sure the cigarettes i smoked did not help. they could be a factor. we don't need to talk about blood sugar anymore, i feel like i'm hogging & killing the thread all at once. i don't want to be like mr. bungle.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

it's partly b/c of me, ohno. I should've just talked about having crazy Canadian one-night stands and eating waaay too much tropical fruit!

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

well, "not drinking for awhile" was a week

When it comes to drinking, that's awhile!

Maddie and I are excited for Arrested Development tonight.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

this morning on the bus i wondered if maybe i could stop drinking for january.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

could/should/whatever

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:36 (nineteen years ago)

I tried not drinking on one of my nights out with you guys - the Mandee fap - and it was horrible! HORRIBLE I TELLS YOU! I felt like I was punishing myself.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, sadly, i don't think i could last v. long. what did i do for all of those years when i didn't drink?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

Hung out with nerds.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

So check this out. I showed my coworkers one of my sock monkeys in progress today and they totally flipped out about how cute it is. Now they're all asking me for the instructions. Also, they're saying they hoped I got them in the Secret Santa because they want one. BOO YAH! I am the DIY QUEEN!

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

I'm kidding. But have you considered moderation?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

Hung out with nerds.

oh yeah.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

I can't wait to work on more tonight as I sit on the couch in front of the fire. I'm making a whole little family of them (but not for said coworkers BWAH HA HA).

Monkey count as of today: 1 full monkey + 2/3 monkey + 1/3 monkey = approx 2 monkeys

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

moderation is a good idea. in a weird way, though, moderation makes me feel more like i have a "problem" than if i were just to take off for a month. and i don't have a problem. wait, do i??

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

Should I join this band since nothing is going on with that other rock band I'm involved in?

They're "inspired by Bowie, Lou Reed, and the Flaming Lips". One of the guys in the band works at my company, and for some reason I assume all coworkers' bands suck (but I haven't had a chance to listen to their soundclips).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

i'm really excited about your monkeys!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, yes.

I thought about going alcohol-less for the month of January too, but then I started thinking about all those lovely seasonal hot drinks and get-better hot toddies... I might as well though because money will be tight next month.

Thanks, Kelsey! Thanks for sharing my excitement! I need to take some pix, but I'll have to be sneaky and not put them up on flickr where my family could find them.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

I bet your monkeys are some crazy kind of cute. I want to see their little hats and outfits. I also sort of wish secretly that one has a little blonde wig.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

I get this strange dizziness all the time. It always happens when I go from sitting or prone to standing. I'm sure it's a drop in blood pressure, but the dizziness is extreme. I lose all sense of who/where I am and almost collapse. I've told several doctors about this, and they basically told me not to stand up so fast, which I really don't. I get up normally. It's the weirdest feeling ever, like being on drugs without being on drugs.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

During a high-school play I was in, there was one scene in which I had run onstage from a side door while fumbling with a vase, I think, and then dart around a sofa and hide behind it. Or something. I don't remember the details. BUT the point is that EVERY TIME when we got to that part, I would get ... not exactly dizzy, but I'd get tunnel vision and feel like everything was closing in somehow. I guess it had to do with the precise movements I was making. This was a farce, btw (go figure). Anyway, this has happened to me a few times since then but not with any degree of regularity.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

i was hospitalized for that before. there's a name for it & it's misunderstood by the medical community. in my case, i'm fine when I am sitting or laying down but my blood pressure changes severely when i stand.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

I had a friend who experienced extreme vertigo in perfectly normal situations because she had ear issues. Her doctor prescribed valium for her. Huge amounts of it.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

Me too - also, I get motion sickness really easily and and and I get dizzy spells which Nick can attest to and and and when I start to recover I like to sing a little part of the Dizzy song (the lead guitar part) and do a little dance.

I don't know where one would get a monkey wig... though I guess I could buy doll hair at a craft store duh (but probably not for this round of monkeys).

xpost - John, I knew I could rely on you to have a dizzy problem, because you're our resident hypochondriac. :-D

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

It's the weirdest feeling ever, like being on drugs without being on drugs.

It's like being on Whippits!

I remember my last ever Whippit. I was genuinely frightened that it would never end. It went on for, like 30 seconds, which is a Whippit eternity.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

Oh Jesus. I only did that once. It was ENOUGH.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

you could make a monkey wig out of yarn, right? what if you made one of the monkeys into a gangsta monkey? a nylon on it's head (probably the foot part), some bling, big shoes . . . i don't know.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

Girls -

when you were young and at slumber parties, did you and your friends make each other pass out? We did. We would hold our breath and then one person would press really hard on the girl's chest who was going to pass out. When she slumped, the press-er would let go. I remember waking up and seeing a bunch of faces looking at me and being like WHOOOOOOOA --what just happened. But it was fun. We loved it. Little girls are sick.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

yes. nearly exactly that. i was the only one brave to try it though. most of my friends freaked out. we'd also play "stiff as a board, light as a feather."

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

I've told several doctors about this, and they basically told me not to stand up so fast,

Jordan, yes.

Sarah, are you saying that based on research or just on the general principle that people should join rock bands?

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

Whippets make me feel dirty on the inside. Like I want to cram a bottle brush down my throat or pour a solution of baking soda and hydrogen peroxide into my ears to swish around my brain.

We used to do the thing where you bend over and blow out really hard against your thumb and then stand up really fast in the lunch line until people started passing out and the grumpy lunch and recess monitor had to start monitoring all us dumbass kids for doing airplanes in the lunch line. (We called this "doing airplanes," and apparently so does Dave Wyndorf.)

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

Weird -- I never heard of that one. Little kids are really hellbent on passing out, aren't they?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

They haven't discovered orgasms yet.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. I have never heard of this passing-out craze.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

a hypochondriac is not prone to the self-inflicted.

kidding. just playing along with what sarah said earlier ...

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

I think John owes me an e-mail.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

HEY GUYS I'M STILL IN NEW YORK WHAT HAVE I MISSED

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

me whining a lot.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

yeah that was the highlight of today, for sure.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

it wasn't a highlight! just something gib missed!

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

One time, I really had to use the bathroom, like emergency time. So I stood up to go to the bathroom, and I got one of those dizzy spells and totally forgot that I had to use the bathroom and went to sit back down. Then I realized I really had to go.

― Jeff-Beetle (Jeff), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

WHAT ELSE

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

I made chili and your recipe helped.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

i can set up a date with you-know-who, if you want.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

The FFs and Eazy rocked a bunch of drunk Irish jerks last night.

John beat up a girl and went home with a dude.

Some of us are thinking of drinking less while others of us are just trying to stay vertical.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

hahahahaha! jenny, you are hilarious. yeah, that sums everything up, i'd say.

maybe throw sock monkeys in there & you've got it.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

John beat up a girl and went home with a dude.

This is so awesome. It's Bizarro World!

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

Something in this office smells like a packet of Kraft Macaroni and Cheese. Not like the finished product, just the packet of powdered cheese that comes in the box.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

Olfactory hallucinations are a sign of paranormal activity.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

Could be someone's feet.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

Olfactory hallucinations can also be a sign of a brain tumor.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

No.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

The FFs and Eazy rocked a bunch of drunk Irish jerks last night.
John beat up a girl and went home with a dude.

Some of us are thinking of drinking less while others of us are just trying to stay vertical.

Oh good. Glad to hear everything's staying on an even keel.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

And I'm now craving macaroni and cheese. Status quo!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

i had homemade mac & cheese for dinner last night.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe it's you, then.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

JAY MAC 'N' CHEESE

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

I read a pretty good review of that band online, Jordan, and of course looked at their website. You should jam with them.

I'm out. Monkeys callin'.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

CRAFT TALK:
i've tried three times to knit the same baby bootie. i knit one already & it needs a mate, but i can't seem to get it right.

should i knit a dorky hat for a baby that looks like a rabbit?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

A baby that looks like a rabbit needs all the hats it can get.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

aw fuck. i meant the hat looks like a rabbit.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

ah syntax! ha!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

In that case, yes, Kel, that sounds very cute. Kids love rabbits.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

Ugh, I have so so so much work to do here today, tonight, tomorrow, tomorrow night, but next Monday at this time I will be maxin' and relaxin'.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

John beat up a girl and went home with a dude.

This is so awesome. It's Bizarro World!

I'm so sick of your heteronormative judgements, Kenan.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

All babies should wear animal hats at all times.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

Chillaxin!

xpost GOD KENAN WTF.

― giboyeux (skowly), Monday, 5 December 2005 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

aw, it's after 5 and i missed dizzy talk.

I got one of those dizzy spells and totally forgot that I had to use the bathroom and went to sit back down. Then I realized I really had to go.

i had a bathroom incident like this too. i don't remember if i ever got there, i kept turning gray and passing out instead. maybe i really didn't have to go that badly anyway.

with the postural dizzies, it's often low blood pressure/dysregulation of the blood pressure, which is most often due to the autonomic nervous system. a lot of people have it mildly. there's a handful of diagnoses for if you have that kinda thing (i have two of them), but not much in the way of treatment (which sucks if you have it not-so-mildly). i had a mayo clinic doctor telling me to eat big macs though, because they have a high salt content.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

You can say "chillaxin'" all you like Ev, but if it was going to catch on, it would have already.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

Oh no, in a moment of whimsy I e-mailed that guy with the band back saying I might be interested, but now I'm listening to the sound clips and I think it's kind, uh, bad!

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 00:22 (nineteen years ago)

omg it is so cold out. and i am so happy that band practice was cancelled because all i am going to do tonight is eat leftover thai food in my warm apartment and then get in bed and watch curb your enthusiasm until i fall asleep (which may not be long).

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 01:48 (nineteen years ago)

You get some sleep tonight, puppy.
Me? I'm going to drink coffee and write this damn paper until it's DONE. Then I am going to watch tube until I fall asleep. It may be a while.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

Thai food and coffee sounds really good right now.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

the great thing about the thai food (which has now been consumed) is that it was sitting in my car overnight but had actually frozen, so it's all good. it was homemade, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

Question for people who have a TV in their bedroom: do you fall asleep with the TV on and wake up to turn it off sometime during the night, or do you manage to turn it off before you drop off?

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:14 (nineteen years ago)

I've never had homemade Thai food.

Does your tv have a sleep timer?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:20 (nineteen years ago)

I've made Thai food at home, but I don't have a TV in my bedroom. I do have a Thai basil plant in my kitchen. It's not dead yet!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

Why am I talking about my basil plant when I should be writing a paper? Please ignore me. I want to jibber jabber, but I should be writing.

Write write write all night night night.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

I have been drinking a lot of the jasmine tea you sent me, by the way. Since I'm off coffee for a few days. It is nice.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 02:25 (nineteen years ago)

Glad you like the tea!

Know what else I like? Being done with this paper! Yaay!

Now it's time for a little before-sleep tube. I hope all of you are tucked into your beds, snuggled up against the freezing cold. That's sort of a tender image, now that I think of it. All of you in your beds like little bunchkins. Nighty night!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 05:57 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning! It's me again!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Bon matin, mes beaux amis.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Bunchkins? Or Munchkins maybe?

I learned something new this morning. LOGY is a real word. Nick didn't just make it up. Also, it doesn't mean MUCASY like I thought it did. It means SLOW and SLEEPY and HEAVY.

Last night I monkeyed it up, watched more Black Adder, and ate sorbet. I finished Monkey 2 and worked on Monkey 3, but he's looking a little crazy. Perhaps it is because I gave him two totally different looking button eyes?

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

I tripped and fell on my way up the stairs from the train this morning.

I like bunchkins because it's like bundled-up munchkins.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

Is it pronounce "lo-zhay" or loggy or low-gee?

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

At least you fell up the stairs (!).

I keep thinking I need some hardcore snow/ice boots, like something people actually use when they go mountain climbing in the arctic.

OH YOU GUYS! I got an email from a former coworker yesterday. Remember when I had that job I TOTALLY hated for a year when I first got to Chicago? And everyone's lives were miserable? Anyway, apparently they cut the staff by three people in the last 2 weeks. It was already a pretty tiny office. I'm so glad I'm not there any more! Hallelujah!

xpost - It is pronounced LO (hard O) GEEEEE (hard G, long e)

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Let me try it. LOHHHHHHH GEEEEE. OK.

Last days at the job here - pretty hectic...

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

What do sock monkeys...do?

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Look cute.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Other people's sock monkeys

Their monkeys are... um... a bit fancier than mine. I'm still learnin'!

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

I still have a little over a week left here. Today I have to try and train two of my coworkers on how to use the program to update our website. Which should be interesting because:
1. Neither of them are particularly tech-savvy.
2. The program works like shit and I usually have to go into the HTML to get things to look right.
Tee hee.

I want some Thai food right now.

I forgot to say that I like Eric's roommate AbbyG. and also that guy Jeff that Eric and John are friends with. They are both delightful people.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Sock monkeys keep foot monkeys from sneaker monkeys. The job, frankly, stinks, but they're so good at it...

I never did get the Thai food.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

When I first read 'sock monkeys' yesterday, I was thinking 'monkey sock puppets'.

The other roommates are swell, too - I hope they'll see you guys play another time. Jeff's a G-e-o-f-f.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Geoff was nice. I met him at Brooke's b-day party right?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

was = is

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yep. He was there! With bells on! (True, minus the bells part)

Sock puppets are fun too.

OH, NICK! GUESS WHAT! I found an excuse to buy baby/kid's clothes! Amy adopted a family for Christmas and we're buying things for a little girl named Jackie who is 6! CUTE! I CAN'T WAIT!

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in seriously bad shape, you guys. I think I may be on very very much the wrong medication. I came home last night, was fine for about an hour, and then all of a suddenly, kind of out of nowhere, became earnestly suicidal. Spent the next hour and a half on the internet trying to find out if death was a possible side effect of anything I had in the apartment aside from Drano. I mean, I suppose I could OD on sleeping pills and bourbon, but that's so unreliable, and when you fail you look like such a dick. Or a girl. Only girls fail at suicide.

So instead I took one (1) sleepinmg pill, slept for 11 hours, took my regular meds, and came to work. I'm still not in the best state of mind. I have therapy today, but I feel (and I know this is stupid) like I shouldn't tell them about any of this. I feel like the meds *would* be working if I ate better, drank less, and slept more regualarly, and I'm afraid they're going to bitch me out for not taking better care of myself.

Gah. Not to worry any of you too much. I'm sure I'll be fine.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Glad you slept, K. Very glad. I hope you tell your therapist what's on your mind - that's what she's there for.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

KENAN! Please tell your therapist. What Eazy said.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

oh kenan. do tell your therapist. this is something that is probably beyond you, clue someone in to help you. i totally understand feeling like you shouldn't, but ignore that. it's not instinct talking.
it's especially important if you intend on having a very open relationship with this woman . . . she can only help you as far as you're willing to let her in. it's okay, you can be brave & do it.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, I thought you said things were looking up in your personal life, just not at work? Or were you being sarcastic?

You should definitely tell your therapist so he/she can help get you on the right meds as soon as possible. Obviously, you are the only one who can truly help yourself in the sense that you need to want to be helped, but your doctor is a close second. If you don't feel comfortable telling your therapist, then get a different therapist.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

It's just that it's not real therapy, it's part of a research project, and they're already very annoyed with me for never filling out the stupid fucking online questionnaire before every session which takes forever and asks questions like "Rate your mood: Bad, Worse, Much Worse, Extemely Much Worse, or Dead," which is of course a cheery experience. So I'm not doing my administrative duties, that's bad enough. If they find out I've been doing anything else not doctor recommended, like drinking or not taking my full dosage of meds every day, they could kick me out of the study. So really, I feel like I'm in just as precarious position with my mental health treatment as I am with my job.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Whoa Xpost! Kenan, your therapist WILL NOT say to you, "Yeah, I know these meds aren't working but until you shape up, we're not going to do anything about it." SHE WILL NOT SAY THIS TO YOU. This isn't like when you go to the dentist and get a raft of shit for not flossing. So go ahead and tell so you can get your meds dialed right.

My experience in these situations is that the therapist's first priority is to get you functioning well (which would include changing your meds so that you're not feeling suicidal) and then once you're set with the right meds, they will start discussing possible lifestyle changes. Therapists know (or should, and if yours doesn't and you have any say in the matter, fire her ass and get a new one) that telling a depressed person to make lifestyle changes before getting them on appropriate supporting medicine is just pissing into the wind.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny: see above. The therapy/meds combination are kind of a fun experiment to see if I kill myself or not.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I read that on cross post. Seriously, nobody on this study wants to lose research subjects to suicide, if for no other reason than it's real bad press. So please tell her - it's possible that you are experiencing a real and very troublesome side effect to this medication that they as researchers need to know as much as you as a human need to tell.

Here's the cold hard truth: If you talk yourself out of telling this woman what is going on with the medicine, you might as well not even be in the study to begin with. So you would basically be rendering the whole thing ineffective, which is what you are worried about anyway (losing the therapy/meds). Not telling her is pretty much the same result as telling her and having them kick you out - you will not be engaging in any course of treatment that is of any help to you.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

hm. ok. you're right.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

I feel better. Steak and eggs for breakfast. mmmmm.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

You should really make sure you eat enough. That's my line. Eat more!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Protein is always useful.

The medication itself could be contributing to your reluctance to even talk about it, too.

PS Are you drinking enough water?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yay! New law clamps down on payday loans. I hope they enforce that VERY aggressively. Pay-day loan places make me almost as angry as employers who don't pay their workers.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Ever since missing a drunk's out-of-control car on Friday night (see above - car got totalled in front of my apartment in the spot where Nick and Sarah had dropped me off 10 minutes earlier), I've been feeling really grateful for everything, like, hey, we wouldn't've had that fun show Sunday night, I wouldn't be drinking this good coffee, etc., etc. - it's a good feeling.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

And I would have been the out-of-control drunk in that scenario, I'm sure.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

...

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Whoever it was smashed into one car down the block, then made its way to the end of the block and a good clip, swung around the corner, totalled the parked car, and drove off (must've been a sturdy car).

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, I need your help with a brainstorming session. As you know, my new job starts out as part-time. I'll be working from 6:30 to approximately 11:00 every weekday. This will last somewhere from a month or two, hopefully no longer than that. During this period, I won't really be making much money, because I'll be working a lot less hours than I work now. So what can I do in the afternoon to make a little spare cash? I don't want to take another part-time job because I'd feel bad about quitting after a month or two.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Guitar lessons?
Temp agency?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Busk.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Seasonal job at Marshall Fields?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

(A propos of nothing, did I tell you all that I saw a production of 'A Doll's House' on Saturday night in which all of the women were over six feet tall and all of the men were under three feet tall? The best parts of the show are pretty mind-blowing, not a joke - running at the MCA for the next few weeks.)

xPost -- Get a holiday-extra-staff retail job - all the big stores have long long hours and need extra staff.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Hook.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Pimp?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Dog walker?

Get a job that has a lot of turnover anyway so you won't feel bad about quitting - telemarketing, waiting tables, factory work.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm, temp agency is not a bad idea. I could call the one I worked with when we first moved here. I thought about seasonal work too but I would need this to go through January probably.

Too cold for busking. And I'm not really qualified to give guitar lessons.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

MAKE MONEY STUFFING ENVELOPES AT HOME.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Write novel, sell to publisher, make hundreds.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

...of pennies. Stuffing envelopes at home.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

It would be nice if the temp agency could find you a job with the same company for that whole time, so you'd know where you were headed every day after work.

I'm hungry.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Ho-leeee SHIT I am listening to C. Rice's speach about torturing people and it's such a huge load of bullshit, I'm like rolling around tearing my hear in frustration that anybody in our government can just go on the radio and speak such crap and GET AWAY WITH IT!

Oh. My. God.

I'm swimming to Canada.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Wait for spring.

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

Just walk there, Jenny. Swimming will be so very cold . . . colder than walking.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Thank god for the BBC World News, who isn't afraid to call BS on our government. It's so comforting to hear an intelligent, well-modulated British voice picking apart her speach.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Just walk there, Jenny.

Shades of last night's Arrested Development.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

last night's AD was actually kinda lame, I thought. I'm glad that Charlize Theron won't be a guest anymore.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Me too, and I even missed the first part of her storyline. Though like I said on the AD thread, the ending was redeeming (redemptive?).

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. I am learning from BBC World News that pretty much everybody in Europe, except one Romanian guy, looks at the CIA of today the way the US looked at the KGB of the 80s.

We really are the bad guys. Like for real.

That is really embarrassing.

(And no, I don't know why I'm surprised to hear all this. I think that deep inside I was hoping that people who knew more about everything had it all under control and my concern, nay, very strong suspicion that our government is turning into a giant human rights violating torture and murder machine, was born of the opaqueness of the US govt's procedures and, when they finally opened all the books and quit dodging habeus corpus and either treated people as criminals or declared war and let the Geneva convention take hold, it would all turn out okay.)

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

School of the Americas to thread.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

I mean "Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation."

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone for a glass of Pinochet? Would you like a coup with that?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Now that was an excellent pun!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

It's no "grand coolie, damn" but...

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Well, yes, but "grand coolie, damn" is to puns what, like, Eddie Van Halen is to heavy metal guitar.

Okay, I think I need to turn off the news. There is a clip about the dreadfully unfair treatment of domestic workers in Singapore, who are exempt from labor laws there.

Guess which other country exempts domestic workers from labor laws! Guess! Here's a hint: You're soaking in it!!!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

I have flippers, a snorkel, and a mask. I can get one of those wet suits that you pee in to keep warm. I am an EXCELLENT swimmer.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Is there room for me to ride on your back? We can hook up Carl to some reins and make him pull us when we get tired.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, I hope you get better soon.

Is anyone else going to see Lady Sov tonight? Giboyeux, are you even back in town?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

hey john -- tropical fruit!

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm, no longer as funny. Nine hours of sleep!

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

See? I see that you're back to your regular capitalization. That's a relief.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, in the past half hour I have:
* Picked out a Christmas wallpaper (ie: someone's flickr shot of a fireplace, kitty sitting in front of the fire, and person's feet stretched out in front of them)
* Picked out this year's Christmas screensaver (scenes of log cabins with falling snow)
* Picked a streaming christmas station (traditional xmas on launchcast)

Now I want to eat a gingerbread man.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

See? I see that you're back to your regular capitalization. That's a relief.

I've actually been thinking a lot lately about when I capitalize and when I don't and why. You'll even notice yesterday I started capitalizing in the early afternoon as the drunkenness wore off, but then went back to lowercase as the sleep deprivation set in.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

I've always considered you very proper re: capitalization.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

Proper!
http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/07/12/07/image_907127.jpg

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know which delights me more: that John thinks about his internet capitalization habits or that Amanda notices and comments on changes thereof.

But either way, I am sincerely and completely delighted.

And on xpost, I am delighted all over again!

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

He's not a bad looking man, but the glasses and the high-waisted puffy pants really render that smoldering gaze ridiculous.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

My very infrequently updated LiveJournal is all lowercase. My poetry is almost alway all lowercase. Some of my e-mails are lowercase. Lowercase often makes me feel more free, less rigid in my ways. And I like the way lowercase looks sometimes. Something I said once about why I like lowercase poetry:

i like to put all my words on the same level playing field, to see them as collections of letters bumping up against one another, democratically.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

That's funny you should say that, Jenny, because the very first time I ever got drunk I was with my friend M. and we were watching videos on MTV and MC Hammer came on and she was like "Do you think Hammer is hot?" and we laughed and laughed and laughed because she called him Hammer.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like Elmer Fudd is trying to sex me up or something.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

Did anyone else see the "Give Hammer A Hand" content promo on MTV circa 1991? Hammer is in his dressing room backstage, and "Cousin It" (the hand in the box from the Addams Family) is his valet - Hammer is buttoning his coat, and a button comes off, and he chews out It. The winner of this contest got to take It's place and be Hammer's valet.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

The irony of it is that Hammer is now probably someone else's valet.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

I thought Cousin It was the dude whose face was covered with hair? But I can't remember the name of the hand...

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

Hahaha -- I don't know, but that's approximately the time when I was watching MTV and drunk-laughing, so who knows? Maybe I did? Lord knows I don't remember.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't Cousin It the short hairy thing? I think the hand is Thing.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan is correct.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

The hand was Thing. "Why thank you, Thing. So thoughtful." xpost!

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like all lowercase. I prefer making certain words in ALL CAPS for EMPHASIS.

We are recording tonight so no Lady Sov.

Jordan OTM.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://secure.essemble.biz/clients/49/sports_docs/Addams%20Family%20Color.jpg

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I wrote some parenthetical back-and-forth about whether it was It or Thing and then thought I figured it out, but you're right - Thing is in the box, because "Hit Cousin It" on the Addams Family pinball game involves the short hairy thing.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

i have seen MC HAMMER LIVE IN CONCERT....with PAULA ABDUL OPENING.

― slow jamz and white guy indie acoustic shit (Chris V), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

I just realized neither Thing nor Cousin It is pictured above.

Man, I loved the Addamns Family TV show. I probably still do, but just haven't seen it in a long time. I liked the NYer comic, too. I'm very goth on the inside.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

I think they should make another TV show based on a New Yorker cartoon. I'm going to pitch Roz Chast's Harried, Worried Mother.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

Is the Addams Family kind of the Slavic version of the Beverly Hillbillies?

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.fortunecity.com/bennyhills/pun/190/cousinitto3.jpg

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

Seriously, though, why does anyone like Roz Chast? She's like the Bobo version of Cathy Guisewite.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

The Carnivorous Mammal that Somehow Became Boss at a Big Corporation

Pithy Comments at a Cocktail Party: THE MOVIE

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Haha at the first one.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

I've actually been thinking a lot lately about when I capitalize and when I don't and why.

i never capitalize (freakish, i know!), and i attribute it to exhaustion. i used to capitalize, and correct typos (and make less typos), but now i can't be arsed. (xp--i like to do the ALL CAPS thing sometimes though to be EMPHATIC)

i like to put all my words on the same level playing field, to see them as collections of letters bumping up against one another, democratically.

i like this reason much better though.

sarah, post a link to your christmas wallpaper! i've kinda wanted wallpaper like that...something all cozy looking.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

I have no idea who Roz Chast is.

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Two Squat-Looking Kings Walking Down a Hallway.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I have ALSO seen MC Hammer in concert. It was one of my first voluntary concerts. I think it was during the decline, though, since it was a near-empty arena show. You could pretty much go sit up in front if you wanted to (I didn't, because it was too loud for my young ears).

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Roz Chast:

http://images.bestwebbuys.com/muze/books/91/0811841391.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.bestwebbuys.com/muze/books/91/0811841391.jpg

WHOAH TOTAL XPOST!!!

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

It's weird we picked the EXACT SAME ROZ CHAST ILLUSTRATION!!!

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe because it's so prototypical of her terribleness?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

I liked Roz Chast when I was a teenager, the way others like Duran Duran.

from the French press today:

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Prototypical?

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

oops, my French quote didn't post, because I tried making real french quotation marks again!

"Cet hyperréalisme de tous les instants - Ed1th Frost vient d'annoncer sur son forum sa séparation "à l'amiable" avec son boyfriend - renforce le sentiment de proximité qu'on perçoit à travers l'album."

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Yuuuuuuuck. That looks horrible. Will someone let neurosis-is-cute die, please?

― The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Senile Couple Living in a Dirty Apartment With Their Dog Whose Tongue is Perpetually Sticking Out

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Yuuuuuuuck. That looks horrible. Will someone let neurosis-is-cute die, please?
-- The Milkmaid (of Human Kindness) (handy_manda@yahoo.com), December 6th, 2005 11:22 AM. (The Milkmaid) (later)

Oh no! There goes John's sex appeal!

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm... I'll try to find it again, Julia. For now, here's another cat in front of a fireplace:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/scoutradio/70873113/

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

(You're right - oh, OTM! - with the Cathy comparison, J. I never thought of that.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Here is the desktop pic I'm using now.

Currently playing: The Chipmunks christmas song

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

Eazy, how does it feel to know the French are somewhat interested in your personal life?

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to turn off FRESH FREAKING AIR and turn on some Christmas music. Also, I was thinking yesterday that I love living somewhere that is COLD during the winter, which was reinforced by a statement by some friends in Texas that they just turned their air conditioning back on.

Air conditioning! In December! In the nothern hemisphere! That's just totally fucking gross.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't taken the window unit AC out of our bedroom window yet, I guess it's probably safe to do that now.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, it's not so bad because it was "une séparation à l'amiable", but strange too.

― Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Hi guys, I've been sick and super-busy at work, hence my absence. But, I'm taking a break to say there's another job opening here at the Press, doing the exact same thing I do. So, if you're interested, hit me up for the details.

― Df'nM (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, we haven't taken our window unit out either, and it's freezing in our bedroom and I just tried to turn the radiator on in there and it won't turn on. But getting the window unit in involved nails so taking it out is going to involve, I don't know, cold fusion, and it's daunting to say the least.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

Ours just involves me getting my ass in gear.

I am eating VEGETARIAN CORN DOGS! Technology is amazing.

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, Nick, KJ & KElly are having a baby.

Hey, EZ, I should try talking to the new extended Frenchie fry family about Edith Frost.

xpost Hey, everyone else. I'm going to freak out the coworkers now by eating a veggie corndog in front of them.

― Sarah Kittensmew McLusky (coco), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

I love veggie corn dogs.

― pullapartgirl (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

(Did Kelly have a miscarriage before?)

― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

I can probably count the corn dogs I've had in my life on one hand, veggie or otherwise.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

i love veggie corn dogs! i had Amy's veggie loaf for lunch + one peanut butter cup + a small handful of snaps. After yesterday, I feel totally justified to eat this much candy.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

I thought your list of actors you don't like was interesting, K.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

I had a chicken cordon bleu sandwich, half a pickle, and I bought a big bag of maple walnut granola that I might snack on.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Chicago . . .
So I'm flying back from Minneapolis on Sunday, in the afternoon. Would anyone be interested in say, eating unhealthy onion rings & drinking rogue beer on sunday evening? Perhaps 6 or 7-ish at the Edgewater?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

my list, john? what's so interesting about it?

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

I would almost definitely be interested in that, Kelsey. Is it because it's YOUR BIRTHDAY?

Your list: interesting only because I didn't know that you didn't like those people.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

This giant bag of maple walnut granola isn't nearly as good as the giant bag of peanut butter granola was.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Right! I forgot the Insta-Guilt Trip detail . . . SUNDAY IS MY BIRTHDAY!

No one has to bring me presents or buy me beer or anything, I just want to do something low-key & fun. That's all.

John, who was surprising on that list? I thought you were aware of how annoying I find those kids.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, Norton and Diaz don't really surprise me, because a lot of people find them annoying. I know you think Katie Holmes is too skeletal. But what's wrong with Tobey Maguire?

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

katie holmes is also a bad actress. hi, curling one corner of your lip upwards doesn't count as character development.

re: tobey maguire . . . he is the exact same guy in every role. his voice is monotone, he has yet to convince me as a character. he doesn't drive me as batty as he used to, but i think he's way way overrated as an actor.

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I agree that Holmes is a bad actress. Definitely the weak link on Dawson's Creek. I used to make fun of Michelle Williams on that show for always making pouty lips and folding her arms over her chest, but she could also be quite good.

Re Maguire's voice: monotone, yes, but with that charming scratch to it! Is he the exact same guy? Hmmmm. It's an odd thing to say, comparing The Ice Storm to Spider-Man, but I guess he does have that slightly nervous, wide-eyed wonder about everything in both films.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

And, I suppose, in Wonder Boys and Seabiscuit, too.

― jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

Btw Kelsey, I know it's a few days off, but since you asked: on Friday night I'm playing at the Cabooze in Mpls (at about 11 pm) and on Saturday I'm playing 3-4 songs at a multi-band Prince tribute at the Fine Line Cafe (starts at 8).

No idea what we're going to do on Saturday afternoon/early evening, but hopefully it will involve a museum and Galactic Pizza.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

*sigh*

If I don't do it, I guess no one will.

Chicago: One Step Beyond

― Paunchy Stratego (kenan), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

YES. And what was the abortion movie? that is slipping my mind. his range is so completely narrow. I don't think he's Mr. Awful, but I never really enjoy any film he's been in. Certainly The Ice Storm moreso than the others, but still. He has yet to play a character that is, for me, in any way memorable. He's forgettable to me, especially since I don't find him all that attractive (even if he had a nice body in spider man [which was more memorable than he was]).

― kelsey (kelstarry), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

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