Celebrity Big Brother 2006 - Thread Two - We all stand together?

"You are competitive aren't you? As a race."

Just an awkward silence every time. :)

I can forgive everyone everything, in the house, including a lot of stupid/annoying things but I cannot forgive bmore anything at all

him going on and on and on and on and on about what cigars GG had given him when GG said he didn't want to discuss it (as it might make people think there'd been some unfair favouritism etc)

wotta dick, as cozen might say

Which, of course, he is. He's always been an accident waiting to happen, and he's set himself up for this totally. If you want public rehabilitation, you do NOT do it by putting yourself in a goldfish bowl where your every action can be scrutinised and people are waiting for you to fail.

we're still not sure whether it was a joke or not

no wonder he's a mess

Aye, fucker never answered my fix it letters.

I love all these "my friend's a journalist and he says they daren't print x" stories. The first one I heard involved the Oldham Chronicle and photos of Fergie giving a drug dealer a blowjob.

I think we're OK on the legal front. For a start, we've spelt his surname wrong.

Anyhow, one more housemate to go on Wednesday.

(If they do this next wednesday as well, then that would be Burns night. Hmmm)

Rula has Pants of Power, so she's either un-nominatable, or it will be her nominations that count only.

Pete won't vote for Rula, George, Preston or Chantelle. He probably won't vote Barrymore. Leaving Faria, Traci and Dennis.

Preston, same list as Pete for won't vote for, subst. Pete for himself.

etc.etc. Looks like a Traci vs Dennis wednesday, unless it's Rula's vote only, in which case it will be Pete vs George, I reckon.

That was my reckon, tell me yours...

I wish they had the sense to vote Barrymore out, all he does is cry and slur. He isn't remotely entertaining, just pathetic. Nobody really seems to be paying him any attention anymore, maybe they will vote him out.

I really dislike George and Pete, they're not happy unless they're bitching/making things up about other housemates, on the highlights show last night they were trying to say Dennis and Tracey were polarising themselves, which I have seen no evidence of.

Ideally I'd like to see George go.

Barrymore was very "oh the americans wanted to compete" whereas Dennis was actually the first one to say "fuck this shit" and Traci didn't immediately jump to George's idea, had to think about it first which was fair enough.

Preston's reaction was also fair enough. Big Brother: "Coffe/Juice and croissants are served " Preston:"Bollocks to that then!"

Box task in CBB, er - they get a treat which is unspecified and they already have plenty of food, booze, and fags so a prize which can't be shared would be rubbish.

George's plan would not have worked in proper Big Brother.

Pete and George in the shower!!!

Popbitch once ran a story that in the dim and distant past, Larry Grayson liked to spread rumours about a mysterious and unnamed now-elderly celebrity *cough* *cough* who does lots of fund-raising charity work for hospitals - the reason being, he was a necrophiliac, and when hanging around the hospitals he was fundraising for, would slip a few quid to the morgue attendants to let him in whilst it was quiet.

GG is being clever, manipulative and disingenuous, but not as clever as he thinks he is. Did he really think gossiping with Pete in the loo without mikes would not get picked up on and broadcast? His unwarranted disclosure about Rula was either a colossal betrayal of confidence or malicious speculation. He will play his position of power over the nicotine addicts to his advantage. It is difficult to think his decision to do BB – never mind his cat impression – will enhance his career. Still Barrymore came a complete cropper with him last night over cigar-gate, ending up looking selfish, self-pitying and fundamentally dishonest.

I fear GG, MB and PB will find another vulnerable female to gang up on and bully to paper over their own differences. Everyone is protective of Chantelle, so I suspect Traci might be the next victim. The *dumb American* slur keeps getting raised. I hope she copes, I fear for her.

A personal highlight was the otherwise invisible Maggot and his 2.00am confused, sleep-deprived rant on not getting any rest - ‘it’s chaos in that bedroom what with the snoring and farting, if it’s not that Barrymore bloke it’s that American football player’ + being utterly clueless as to who most of his fellow HM’s actually are (only shown on the ‘Diary Room Uncut’).

wotta dick

He ain't wrong. He HAS to be finished after this, hasn't he?

Just before the box task, Rula told George that she was feeling somewhat depressed because of how Pete (specifically) was treating her.

This seems to be George's way of getting Pete to 'be nice to her' without being more specific re the details?

Pete: Today I’m getting freaked out,

GG: Really

Pete: I can’t explain it to the other kids, cos I don’t want to share these issues with them ‘cos to be honest with you half of them are dumb and Rula’s going to talk to me like a mother

GG : well she’s a very vulnerable person herself. She very depressed, she’s crying in bed this morning , she feels she’s old and unattractive, she feel she’s lost it and no one wants her as a woman, she’s everyone’s mother, she was very upset at Faria describing her as her mother, she feels that people don’t listen to her, when she says something or sings a song no one picks it up, she’s quite paranoid,

Pete: This is doing people’s heads in, these are not issues I could even broach

GG: It is doing people’s heads in, that’s what it’s for. … but we’re almost, almost half way through and there won’t be another expulsion till I think Wednesday, and you know I think there are new issues opening up

Pete + GG emerge from shower

Pete: Thankyou George.

(Now, either Rula confided in GG her anxieties, or GG is speculating and sharing them with Pete. GG and Rula are close, GG might have wanted to mollify Pete’s irritations with her, but either way…… it strengthens his self-appointed position as elder statesman and confident, whilst belittling Rula I mean ‘she’s quite paranoid’ … and this to Pete!

Pete was the first person to suggest Rula as the 'prizewinner' after George's suggestion.

George is looking forward to leaving the house, and using his new found fame boost and people skills to take over the anti-war movement and become its figurehead. Probably.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/essex/4616752.stm

Wouldn't bet against Endemol doing a 'live special' :-(

???!!!!

Some of The Corpses Are Amusing: A spectacularly joyless set of comedy fans.

http://downlode.org/etext/hignfy_fake.html

Every time anyone speaks to George I want to shout 'No! Don't say anything personal! Don't reveal any weaknesses! He's storing it all up to use it against you!'

A spokesman for Mr Galloway said that the MP had played by the rules of both houses. “George signed all the EDMs during the recess and we dispatched them all in one go after Christmas.”

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,17129-1989187,00.html

If it's that fucking obvious, why aren't the BBC pointing this out in their story?

very humiliating for his girlfriend, though.

"I'd have sex w.dennis if only he'd shut his mouth" (overheard)

'you're the sort of person i fall in love with.'

wtf?

Any road up:

Rula's Pants meant:
1) She was exempt from noms (which was a no brainer, and anyway I doubt she was going to be nomd by anyone anyway)
2) She was told who had been voted for (i.e. the two up for eviction), and asked for a third name.

But cut to the bottom line,

George: "If there was any racism in the house, believe me, I would have picked up on it by now."

she always overstates and talks in sensational ways I don't like her

Still, it must be Dennis.

For some reason, I get the names Dennis and George mixed up. I told Dawn it was George, Faria and Pete. Then I discussed that it had to be Dennis out of that list. Confused? Ah yeah.

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/959682

Faria : 'Older men LOVE me!!' I almost retched at that point. How do girls like Faria get away with using men of means and/or power in this way? It's not as though she seems to be amazingly clever, witty or beautiful, either. Baffling.

/freakonomics

Faria's budding romance with Dennis could already be dead in the water.

The former FA secretary admitted that she requires her family's "blessing" for any relationship she has.

"It depends what I want," she told Dennis last night. "If I really like somebody, I'll go all out and get him."

"What if your mother didn't approve of it?"

"Then I'd see," she replied. "It's a problem because I want her blessing for anything I do."

Dennis pointed out that she was "a grown woman" but Faria insisted that applying such logic was futile. "It doesn't work like that... you don't understand the ways of our religion."

I don't think so.

er, she's pushing 40, isn't she? not to be ageist or anything, but she ain't no girl. and in this instance (as in many others) i fear "older men" = "clapped-out wanks who aren't as fussy as they used to be".

they are all knobs. total spunkers. i've sort of given up on this now: i watched five minutes with the sound off last night while i was on the phone to my mum. then i put some music on.

Funny that it's OK to try to unseat the england manager just before the world cup campaign, but there you go.

xpost oh really?

Yes - it was one of those moments that showed her overriding philosophy of life.

I believe her too - but it's really puzzling.

http://betfinder.bestbetting.com/Default.aspx?&market=19528855&help=false

that's disgusting.

Also, Anna, yikes!

Why do they think that the nominations of a few z-listers are representative of the nation as a whole anyway?

and again when Rula called George a 'lying Arab'.

yes i've been 'sucked in' :(

As punishment for talking about nominations, George and Preston have been called to the diary room, they are being shown live to the housemates and have to nominate three housemates for the public vote. They don't know they are being watched. This is possibly the best thing that's happened so far all series.

He's now just been nominated, and looks close to tears. This is cruel. They've now nominated Rula. Traci is going "I get it now", and I think she has a point. They have picked Maggot and Rula because they don't want to pick Dennis (this whole thing has stemmed from racegate, and even if they don't like Dennis, they can't nominated him for fear of looking racist) and so have picked people that won't beat Traci to the eviction.

Preston has nominated Maggot to defend Chantelle's honour. If I were Preston's girlfriend (apart from being a woman of rotten taste), I would be so unhappy with him.

End of a beautiful friendship?

i think preston went to public school.

she never!!!!???

fuck i need to start watching this again.

George came back after having won £140 shopping budget.

Michael: "How much was each question worth?"
George: "£20"
Michael: "Ah. (quick mental arith later) Rula said you should have got 12 right, but I said..."
Rula: "Ooh, you lying arab! .. .. .. (oh shit)"

George talking about the race issue:

"We wouldn't put up with the things Dennis was saying if he was a white man. He talks about how many women he's had sex with and the size of his cock, but we put up with it 'cause it's Dennis." or words to that effect.

that's what I said.

Traci vs Rula, basically.

x: "Oh I want to go home, Oh I'm leaving the house"
y: "z nominated you"
x to z: "You bastard!"

"We wouldn't put up with the things Dennis was saying if he was a white man. He talks about how many women he's had sex with and the size of his cock, but we put up with it 'cause it's Dennis." or words to that effect.

Like white men never talk about how many women they've had or how big their dicks are.

That said, Dennis has been as guilty of racial stereotyping as anyone else from what I've seen.

Didn't he once say people overrated Larry Bird (one of the greatest basketball players of all time) because he was white?

You missed out:
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(OMG I've turned into a Nuts reader! I'D 'AVE 'ER!)

Maggot is sweet. I went out last night though, so I haven't seen it.

christ, me too. the second i give up on it, it gets interesting.

or is it just that this thread is better than the programme itself?

I've not seen BB for days now cos I keep being too reasonable with my BB-hating flatmates and letting them watch other things. This will have to stop.

The other day, this happened:

C4 Announcer: Coming up next, CBB, which contains strong language.
Flatmate: Strong language in CBeebies!? Fuck!

Erm...I'm Alan Partridge actually.

End of pedantry.

"Police have seized a "gorilla coat" belonging to Celebrity Big Brother contestant Pete Burns.

Officers from the Hertfordshire Constabulary took the coat from the Big Brother house on Thursday after a number of complaints from viewers."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4628654.stm

“a type well known in the Labour movement. Prolier than thou, and ostentatiously radical, but a bit too fond of the cigars and limos and always looking a bit odd in a suit that was slightly too expensive. By turns aggressive and unctuous, either at your feet or at your throat; a bit of a backslapper, nothing's too good for the working class: what the English call a "wide boy."

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/641kyjkk.asp

"pete, i love you!"
"you know what? you can kiss my raw haemorrhoid. you're an LA whore."

the guy's basically revealed himself to be a total, total prick.

Also, she was trying to not let it get to her, so wading in would kind of undermined that; implied that really she needed protection.

But yeah.

can't believe no-one just said "fucking hell...what are you doing?"

for some reason I can picture grimly and ailsa laughing at pete's taunts

: (

pete's was awful, though, and I think bmore has said some dodgy things

I don't like them at all. Extra unfunny because I can imagine them being rehearsed in his head a few times beforehand.

I am missing all this race stuff, I'd really like to see it in context.

I saw GG give a speech to a mostly Muslim audience in Birmingham a few years ago, and the way he spoke and fawned made me cringe horribly. He is one of these people who aren't racist, but just seem to have no concept of the sensitivity of the issue, and makes these awful clumsy comments. There was a speech by a young Muslim woman councillor, just before his, and he stood up afterwards and announced that "Britain needs more young Muslim women like that". He obviously saw nothing remotely objectionable in it, and none of the Muslims there seemed to either, but I sat squirming.

Well, whether they did or didn't, they'd be unlikely to show it in that kind of context. Someone's there at a public event, being "on your side", you don't make a big song and dance about them sounding patronising in their praise.

I am such an easy squirm.

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i'm not sure whether to take offence at this or not. on balance, i'm not going to.

the situation was bizarre, and i think the exchange i quoted above is "funny" insofar as it's utterly ridiculous (traci trying so hard to be sweet and defuse it; pete steamrollering ahead). but that's hardly the same as saying: "ho ho, good ol' pete, what a card." if you read what i wrote upthread about "bullying" and "being a prick", i think that's obvious.

yes: misanthropic is right. although maybe more misogynistic. when he was in the garden with GG, pete was spoiling for a fight with rula: he seems to enjoy upsetting women. (i was going to say "humiliating", but ... he's not actually humiliating them, even if that's what he's setting out to do, because what he's saying is pretty much nonsensical.)

what he says also covers all the bases of racism, sexism, general prick-ism ... but it seems motivated by some horrific inner spite. it seems to me to be related to his refusal to take part in any of the earlier tasks: eg talking to the flower, wearing shoes, anything at all. christ knows what goes on in his head, but he's fucked up.

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x-post to gerry: it's absurd rather than "funny", i think.

the guy is a fuck-up. as is barrymore, who's gone worryingly quiet.

and ailsa seemed happy to see people being horrid as long as it was someone she didn't like getting the horridness (jodie)

that's all !

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Is it because they're misanthropic/misogynistic/what the fuck ever pricks then? To drop "i can picture x and y laughing at this :-(" in the middle of a conversation about how much of a hateful cunt someone is seem to be attributing something unsavoury to them despite their (at the time) silence on the matter.

The "not saying enough" thing was referring to the way this thread has damned the others in the house as complicit because of their silence/awkwardness/absence

If I read a whole load of shite into that then I'm sorry, and I've really no idea why I'm speaking for anyone else anyway.

I'll shut the fuck up now.

no: it's basically the absolute absurdity of it. i just sat there going, fucking hell, what is this ABOUT? because to begin with - like with so many pub fights etc - you assume he's joking, and then you realise, hang on, he's kinda serious here. and the whole thing becomes gawpingly fascinating in a road-crash kinda way.

all of which means that, by the standards of big brother - which, let's face it, are pretty debasing - that was a classic episode. i'm not entirely sure whether watching this sort of stuff is healthy or not, but we're all doing it, so we're all as bad as each other. i tuned in specifically to see the preston/george/diary room farrago, which was horrific, but rather eclipsed by pete's nonsense.

re: ailsa/jodie ... i'm not trying to fight ailsa's battles for her, but i think she argued her case clearly enough last week and i understood where she was coming from.

to quote preston, after the diary room broadcast: "and I've had...four glasses of wine" (I haven't really)

wimp!

It was a really bad idea for him to take part.

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so wd the police coming back into the house, tomorrow, and taking them both

maybe people think she's boring

I take BB to heart a bit much, I think.

"I stand up for people who are being attacked." and then sat there doing fuck all while his 'pal' Pete got steamed into Tracey.

Fucking knobhead.

Chantelles face was a picture though.

Is it really Aphex Twin or is it his boyfriend who just bears a scary resemblance to him?

Ifhehadbeen, it'sdoubtful that Pete would have said anything.

My Space Bar Needs A Blummin Mallet To Make It WORK!!!

And it took a reality TV show to make you realise this?

Trcai was more than capable of dealing with Pete. It doesn't mean she enjoyed it, obviously, but she didn't need defending.

Preston left the room, obviously uncomfortable, but I guess in that situation there is no right reaction, just degrees of wrongness.

Chantelle looked visibly uncomfort, which was prob the most right. George sat there looking unbothered was least right.

it's not about defending her so much as saying 'stop being a racist bullying cunt.' i don't think she was 'more than capable.' no-one should get away with being a cunt like that. someone whould have told him to step off.

i.e. Julian Cleary stuff without the 'panache'.

Eventually, Chantelle joined in the joke, and Pete moved on, satisfied.

A bit like that.

so surely pete should be taken in for this?

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/960127

Turnup for the books? (Bear in mind, last poll was spectacularly wrong)

Maggot 4 teh win!!!11

Pssh. I now don't want Rula to go, just to spite them. I thought Traci was a cert to go, bt the polls, the polls...

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We need a poll of most embarassing CBB moments. Never in my life have I actually put my hands in front of my eyes to hide the horror of what was on TV before, but CBB has opened the floodgates. I'll start:

1) George and Rula, the cat incident.

2) George calmly explaining that they allow Dennis to mumble on about the size of his penis, purely because he is black and that is what they do. Naturally, if Dennis was white they would not allow him to do this.

3) George: "There's a fifty five year old man crying in the garden because of you." Awesome.

4) George sat outside with a few housemates, painting a picture of how he wanted Barrymore to come back to the UK and DAZZLE the audience, to knock us dead, to WOW us with wit, humour and madcap antic, and then ending with "but instead he's sat outside in the rain, crying.." All this with Barrymore sat next to him, listening, hugging his legs and sniffling the tears away.

5) When Dennis tries to make a point and his brain is racing ahead of his mouth and all that comes out is some garbled mess, and the person talking to him just makes a wild guess at what he's on about, but you can see in Dennis's eyes that they got him all wrong. (cf: Barrymore's freakish paranoid rant at him about 'tv shit').

6) Faria's hamfisted 'he really likes me, he REALLY likes me, what do you mean he already tried it on with Chantelle, Jodie and Tracie already? No, he likes ME' flirting with Dennis. I can't pin it down but every single thing Faria did or said made me wince. Least TV-friendly person ever.

7) Faria oh-so casually dropping the 'Have you ever weed in your boyfriends tea?' line into conversation. As if it was a very normal and correct query and 'oh, why is the attention on me now tee hee?'

There are tons and tons more, please add your own.

I can think of only one really great CBB moment and it involves Pete on the live feed. I now hate Pete cos he iz a meanie. But this was fantastic:
Strutting through the house one morning, like a lion who's just eaten a gazelle. I think it was after one his regular bile-shooting sessions at Rula or Chantelle. He's swooshing through the main room, no one else around and he just *ROARS* "WATCH OUT HERE I COME", lets out a cruel bellowing laugh and carries on strutting to the kitchen. Completely alone and done solely for his own pleasure. Such a magnificent display of pure malevolence, it sent a shiver down my spine.

Or. the TV audience.. xpost darnit.

9) Chantelle performing her 'hit single'.

10) Barrymore's Frank Spencer with Hitler Moustache (in fact that whole task was more cringeworthy than anything Ricky Gervais has ever contrived).

(xpost to #10!)

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When he started his rant, I was like "Who's speaking? Haven't heared that voice, have I?"

did he actually say that? cos I was was under the impression that he'd said "I was just using language that you'd understand", meaning short, offensive words, because he found her unintelligent, rather than implying that he was using "black" words because he was talking to a black person.

-- Lovelace (futilecrime...), January 20th, 2006.

no, he meant it racistly.

What a cunt! (Both Pete and laughing me)

then totally wimped out

I think he's useless

Affectian otm

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my memory is not good im afraid.

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other embarrassing moments

12) people explaining their self portraits and how they showed their inner selves. Chantelle: "I have painted it in bright colours because I am bright! not bright as in brainy but as in brightly coloured" etc etc for another five minutes

13) George saying he stands up for people who are being bullied when actually the opposite

a new mark C!!

Barrymore's has to be number 17) Genuinely creepy, an insight into the mind of a brain gone bad: "This bit, this huge cancerous tumour in the middle of my face, that represents the way I feel ALL THE TIME EVEN WHEN IM IN BED IN THE SAME ROOM AS YOU PEOPLE and those two black lines are how I've grown as a person." [cue nervous clapping]

Yes ian, I’ve been watching it.

But yeah, how he walked out sneering and laughing about it was the worst. Why doesn't someone just rip into him? "Pete, I think there's something on your lip? Oh god, it's not a bit of pus is it? Oh, it's some cauliflower." Or ask how it feels to be a one-hit wonder, or if he thinks he'd be anywhere without PWL, or ANYTHING, just don't let him get away with being the embodiment of evil!

Second that emotion

Day 17, 07:00
Saturday 21 January

How deep is their love? Well, today, we'll find out. Our celebrities' emotions are bring tested - not through therapy, not through art, not through poetry.

No, today our slebs's feelings are being tested through the expressive medium of dance.

And.. Relax..

Housemates must pair up, although because there are nine left one will have to dance alone. Each pair will be called to the Diary Room to randomly select an emotion and a style of dance. For example, Anger, Love or Sadness with barn dance or body popping.

Each Pair will then be instructed to express their emotion through the medium of dance for one minute. The Housemates will be wearing leotards during their performance.

Once the dancing has finished the observing Housemates have 30 seconds to correctly guess the emotion the dancing pair is trying to express. The more emotions they guess correctly the more booze and ciggies they will receive.

We've heard about dancing for your dinner. But a jig for cigs?

Housemates better face the music, and dance.

We could see George Galloway body popping in a leotard! We'll be begging him to do the cat thing at the end of this.

not that i want to start sticking up for pete in any way, but the only "whore" comment i remember is "LA whore". that said, there was so much insane ranting that i could have missed this.

affectian staggeringly OTM about "why the fuck is nobody calling pete a dick and taking the piss out of him?"

i think he's just checking it's still there!

It's still Rula, well ahead on this thingy...

I quite like this, because it makes him look like one of the cast of Thunderbirds.

See, when I started typing that "they are making her look stupid" comment, it had just started, and they *were* showing her up for the vacuous little girl that she is. But then they kept going and going and it got a bit uncomfortable.
Then she pulled the "but my dad's *ill*" line and I roffled a little despite myself. But yes, two grown men should have known where to draw the line, they'd made their point, such as it was, well before that.

...I wasn't entirely comfortable with the level of sustained abuse they were throwing at her. I mean, I still think she's an obnoxious excuse for a human being - totally self-obsessed and childish with no manners or social skills - but I wouldn't scream it to her face non-stop for a sustained period of time - I have explained exactly why I dislike her (and I notice no-one has bothered to defend her in any sort of way other than going "you are wrong").

and the reason they all walked out when pete was mouthing off to traci was cos they are all white. im dissapointed that dennis (ive missed quite a lot this week so i might not have seen his reaction) hasnt laid into pete or anyone else for their racism more. idiot.

i.e. everyone nominating Pete for 'past crimes'

what, and having him strutting about in there like some kind of walking cancer all the time doesn't affect the mood of the house?

i just don't understand why nobody has so far said: "look, pete, you're acting like a cunt." why are they so afraid of him? as bullies go, he's fucking pathetic ... i mean, HOW CAN ANYBODY BE INTIMIDATED BY SOMEONE WHO LOOKS LIKE THAT?!

No, all that is being proved is that some of this particular bunch of celebrities are worse bullies than some other people who have been on Big Brother. You're being celebist!

people = shit, eh?

he is NEVER 24.

Yeah how old is Maggot? I've read that he's either 24, 34 or 43 and each one of those seems believable.

I'm starting to feel really sorry for Barmymore after reading about his OCD and how he potters about the house at night when everyone's asleep. I don't like it when he goes off on his scary rants, but he's obviously suffering and has done for some time before entering the house. I half want George's ultra-condecending '..I wanted Michael to come in here and WOW the British public..' sermon to come true but there's no chance of that now.

I know this is supertabloidy of me but does anyone have any photos of Preston's g/f? Or his ex? I bet 20p they'll both be in the NoTW tomorrow.

(PS. Grimly, those DVDs were posted out yesterday so keep an eye out for them, and I'll mail you soon).

(*the one out of steps that isn't H is also participating, hence tragedy)

am i sad in wanting the housemates to be more like les dennis, anne diamond or melinda messinger? just sat there, not doing much. up all night knitting, lazing on the sofa on a sunday afternoon as i was lazing on the sofa myself.

He's an utterly vile creature, isn't he?

i just think that if viewers are going to call channel 4 to complain about any aspect of pete burns, his second-hand (or third-hand, or fourth-hand, or whateverth-hand) monkey-fur coat is not the biggest problem.

[waits for tirade of abuse]

which brings me neatly to my next point. if possession of the coat is illegal - and i'm not sure whether it is or not, especially if the coat's arrival in the country, eg 50 years ago, predates whatever law prohibits import - then ...

... WHAT THE FUCK IS THE MP FOR BETHNAL AND BOW DOING TRYING TO SUGGEST "SOME KIND OF FINANCIAL RECOMPENSE" (or whatever he said; you know what i mean) INSTEAD OF SAYING, WOAH, PETE, GET OUT THERE AND FACE THE MUSIC?

i'm no lawyer, but ... justice is meant to follow a course, isn't it?

Chantelle is currently asking the fridge where the tomatoes are.

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Confused Maggot: "er, no, but they asked me to be *on* Celebrity Big Brother"
Traci: "Really?"

She's also decided she wants to have a Big Brother voice in her house.

preston stupid, too, though, for not being able to argue his way out of (and rather apologising/trying to justify his way out of) an accusaton of maliciousness when gg's the one who keeps talking behind backs and breaking the most basic bb rule

don't think any of the other housemates got the courage/strength/indefatigability gag, either

it's great how he gets it to crown his head perfectly w/ spikes from his thinning hair

traci in nominating chantelle for being pal's w/ preston instead of pete for being a big dickhead to her especially

and preston in taking bmore's side over dennis in the petty cigarettes-on-the-table argument from the other night

Preston has said his "cheating politician who'd have thunk it" line three times now. I hope he sits on George's hat.

Maggot makes the mostest sense of them all, nine times out of ten.

dennis is the best though

clearly the words of someone who hasn't actually been watching the show.

Er, Dennis is a good dancer.

is it just me, or is the whole focus of this programme now to make galloway look like a dobber? if so: good.

he doesnt seem that bad to me

only dennis is actually likable

The island of Britain will jump about three feet to the left, I think.

(Geographically not politically, obv.)

Georges 'suggestion' of a financial recompense to be offered by the interested parties, to be agreed after he leaves the room...

That whole sentence came far too readily to his lips. Has he said that before? In more exalted company?

Watching him eat is obscene. I keep expecting him to puncture his lips with the fork and start leaking again.

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/960583

George is the runaway winner, but it seems Chantelle may be following him, assuming that the vote is for two out, and not Wacky Twist.

I'm surprised by how many of the housemates seem to be intimidated by him. I'm sure if someone would give as good as they get, Pete would be up for some sparkling banter.

George Galloway 100/1

Oh, hold on...

Chantelle and Preston are the 'directors', who have their own private 'club' where they relax and have private conversations (broacast to all the others, naturally). They are told that it's their job to ensure that the HM's pass the task.

The other HMs are told the truth that they must fail the task to get the shopping budget, without the directors knowing.

Basically this means:
1) Pete is basically laying into the 'lying' directors, and being a stroppy git. This is actually a good tactic, as they will fail the task and the 'directors' will think it's just Pete being his usual helpful self.

2) During the broadcast of the director's private chatroom, Michael (and George, I believe) have been calling the other HM's away from the broadcast screens, on the basis of 'nothing we hear here is going to help anyone. Which is very astute behaviour.

It seems that Michael Barrymore is getting less insane! Ceratinly last night, had some astute observations about George, shared with Maggot.

It's not a running race, where if you run it say 100 times, George would win one time.

R O F F L E

george is looking more and more like a desperate sad snivelling egotistical fuck. he WANTS to stay forever and looks like hed kill someone to win. saddo.

traci looks so lovely!

(xpost, I meant about the task, but, yeah, that too)

plus with the coin counting task, his needling ws a good effort at a fail I think; tht ws tricky on behalf of BB

dennis must win!

I still heart Pete. Am I the only person who gets his sense of humour?

Michael, in particular, pointing at George now.

George tries to make out he's all avuncular, but he has a really nasty streak in him.

I had a look at the Big Brother Big Mouth discussion programme on E4 for the first time last night - who is that weird Russell Brand guy who presents it? He's most odd.

-- C J (CJ_The_Unrul...), January 24th, 2006.

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that's what Stuart Lubbock said!

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No, I find him funny sometimes, he's quite biting and often amusing with it. I just roffled when he said that Preston looked like a chimp at a chimps' tea party in his suit and bowler hat. I think he can be quite sharp and witty, and I like that, but this is being overridden by the fact that he is a grade-A tosswipe a lot of the time.

Barrymore: "yes, in your opinion"

Ailsa OTM about each of them being otm in some way. All this just makes me like Maggot more, though. He doesn't let his tongue run ahead of his brain. Can't quite say the same about Traci. Think she's just bewildered.

xpost. Yes, it's brought the absolute worst in all of them. Makes me long for the Mark Owen days. Wonderfully boring, with far less potential to make you feel like you're six again, watching parents row or summat.

galloway is a fucking MP, kids. he's a fucking elected representative. and look at him now! look at what he's become in the space of a couple of short weeks!

i used to work with r0n mc kay, his agent ... i tell you what, if i run into him again i am going to give him fucking pelters.

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Maggot is the OTMest person in the world now after his diary room speech. Rather than shouting, he goes and shows the viewing public that he has an opinion and it's quite a reasoned one.

Maggot to win.

xpost

Russell Brand on CBBBM: "but he's met Saddam Hussein!"

Preston called George a "big nazi".

I'm not sure I can take watching Shameless after that exhuasting hour.

(that is weird, because it wasn't really a speech. But what else would you call it though?)

Dennis's incoherent rage at Chantelle and Preston was genuinely worrying, him and George to GO GO GO.

Interesting how Pete backed off from sniping at Barrymore until he'd left the room. Is he actually scared of him?

It wasn't Preston who said 'What kind of men are they?', it was good old Galloway again.

It's hilarious how they all signed up for this as a bit of a laugh, bit of fun on telly and it comes to THAT.

xpost, haha "George is about as democratic as.. as.. A BIG NAAAZI!"

def think gg is the worst in there now, pete second for being v slightly less deluded about his vileness and much less deluded about his "motives" and dennis third for his stupidity and aggression and willingness to join in on an obviously ridiculous and pointless argument

I take back a lot of what I said about bmore, now, maybe. he is not good and he is totally self-obsessed (but only marginally more than pete and gg, probably) but he seemed the most reasonable of the older folks, wrt this stupid nothing argument which came about from pete harping on and on and on and on about the fact that preston and chantelle were lying. total fanny. gg and pete saying they wouldn't have eaten/drunk/smoked anything in the clubroom -- lying twatssssss. but yeah. bmore, after his lame "seconds out, round two" re-entry, talking some kind of reuniting sense w/ "we're all pathetic etc" to go into LONG talk about just what gg had accused him of -- "do what you like to me/call me whatever you like/I've been called everything/I've been bashed off every pillar and post/on and on" so boring and, yes, just what gg had made a big point of kind of totally ruined it

Also, Chantelle is participating in a "who the hell is Dennis Rodman" conversation. Er, who the hell are *you*, exactly? kind of misses the point

still don't like maggot. fine to have an opinion and speak about it in private from the rest of the house after the fact but it doesn't deserve any congratulations when he stood there and maybe shouted 1 thing which was crap when everyone else was shouting a lot of crap, too. don't know why chantelle and preston let themselves be picked on so much rather than stepping out of it w/ "can't believe you pricks are going on about this like this pricks". the old guard telling them they're kids yawn. traci nothing

chantelle should win

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They were on about who they were - "you're Michael Barrymore off the telly" etc, and Chantelle was on about how no-one knows who Dennis Rodman is, yet she isn't exactly in a position to criticise anyone else for not being famous.

Chantelle's reaction at receiving the rollerblades was delightful.

chantelle was talking about the deal rodman was making about her not being famous when she has no pretensions (yet anyway) and she said (I think) she'd never heard of him or that he wasn't v famous over here or something so her "who the hell is dennis rodman?" is fine but anyway that was after it had already become a joke they were making to mock him like "who does he think he is?" or "we don't care about him" and bmore said "who are any of us?" kind of in defence of chantelle (re: rodman's dig) and chantelle said "you're michael barrymore off of the telly" because he is and because she wanted to be nice to him,

I think

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Spot. fucking. on.

And, yes, of course it wasn't Preston "who just asked "what the hell kind of men are they" in response to Pete saying that both Michael and Maggot have been reduced to tears? What a twat." it was gormless George. The twat.

it was liek at the end of teenwolf and michael barrymore was teenwolf

haha, it really was!

maggot, in the garden, safe to comfort bmore now no-one else is around arsehole

: )

the attempts to glorify maggot, here, forget (it seems) his initial statements re: being pals w/ bmore (and other stuff) about not wanting the to be associated w/ him or being seen to...whatever

funny to think of gg's loved ones (his exwife? I dunno) or his colleagues watching him. how many could think "yes he's right to be being like that and well done for taking preston to task over his lying during the task and his malicious confession to bb dropping good old gg in it and what a dickhead preston is just making everything worse and who does he think he is?"? probably 0 or 1 moron. bet even preston's girlfriend would forget that he has compromised her a bit to think "wow gg is a petty dickhead why is he making a big deal out of nothing and having a go at preston there was nothing preston should have done differently really?"

Someone has to take him to task before the series is over. Dear BB Producers, please fix it for this to happen. Love, Affectian.

ironic, a little, since preston made chantelle swear on her mother's life, about her celebrity status, in the first couple of days. of course, he didn't know for sure and probably used it mostly as a way to get her to own up rather than just to be evil, as pete did

ARE YOU LISTENING, CHANNEL 4?

RJG, WRT GG's (fucking hell, it's a whole new language) family and "friends" ... there was an interview with the aforementioned agent in the sunday herald a couple of weeks back, when galloway was beginning to show himself as the knob he is (ie after 0.0001 seconds in the house), and he was basically saying a lot of stuff that translated as: "oh fuck, he's doomed."

the herald ran a piece on saturday saying: "hey, kids, if galloway plays his cards right he could yet come out on top" ... and yes, he probably could have done. but not now. now he has SPUNKED it.

xpost

I did think it was a weird one, when preston did it, though

Preston mentioned it in the diary room in an offhand manner like "yeah I made her swear on her mum's life so now I believe her" - as if that's an ok thing to do to someone with a live mother.

no, he made her swear on her mother's life that her band and celeb stuff was real

well, he said "swear on your mother's life?" and she said "yeah!"

Um, Barrymore seems to be getting more sane!

Oh, and he didn't hear George's 'poor me' as he was talking then, and George's stuff was on mike i.e. not loud enough. I know Preston heared it, but then, they were listening.

You realise, Barrymore could actually win this?

Why didn't they lay into them? Why were they so tame? Where's the fucking backbone?

And Dennis - wtf? He was spouting quotes from Pete, George and Michael with nothing of his own to back it up. I was beginning to like that guy but he's proved himself as another useless hanger on. Do you know why George didn't nominate you last week fuckhead? It's not 'cause you're his pal.

I'm getting incoherent again. Why does this bullshit wind me up so much?

I was disappointed that chantelle & preston kind of let it happen and didn't either fight back or dismiss. they are the two youngest, in the house, though. gg loves to
address and dominate, pete loves to insult and dominate, dennis gets v loud and aggressive -- not easy to overcome, really

Maggot has to win.

no it was galloway.

this is otm.

Galloway to die.

I'd love there to be a twist at the end, in which Chantelle isn't really a simple Essex girl but really talks posh and has a degree in astrophysics.

http://vote.sparklit.com/poll.spark/960583

It seems from this that Dennis might actually stay! But seeing as this is at the lower number end, the margin of error might be enough.

don't forget sexy lips pete!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chantelle_Houghton

"he's trying to read my lips, the fucker, but they're too big"

Traci daftly following up Farias race comment was rather dumb of her, and implicating Dennis more dumb still, but in all honesty I find her sweet and likeable.

Maggot and Preston should stand up for themselves more, but nobody has really had a go at Maggot personally to give him the chance to do this.

Chantelle plays with her hair too much.

and stand up for someone else once

I'm assuming the nomination stage is over...

in maggots defence gg, denis and pete are quite domineering characters, whether or not they are wrong is difficult to overtake a conversation they are controling in that style

people who know clever things about speech theory to the thread..

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I bet Dennis gets angry and shouty again if that happens.

I assume 2 of the 3

and a quick google shows that that's what this say, too, but could be assumption, as well

crossposts

chantelle: "well, I'm glad I'm not from where you're from"

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where dennis is from, you'd get your face bashed in for lying in order to complete a task in the interest of the entire group on a reality TV show in another country

chantelle: "well, I'm glad I'm not from where you're from"
Hahahahahaha!

Maybe they will evict PB and pelt him with haggis.

(as an aside, when he is finally evicted i do hope davina says: "they're not booing. they're shouting boo-urns, boo-urns.")

:(

Maybe they will evict PB and pelt him with haggis.

We can but hope!

I used to think that it was Terence Trent D'Arby who sung it.

Oswald Mosley?

"I don't regret [lying]," said Chantelle. "If I done that all over again I'd do exactly the same except I'd drink more champagne!"

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I'm sure GG's hero Uday Hussain would've loved one. When he was, y'know, alive and killing people and stuff.
Poor George :`(

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Oh, for fuck's sake.

George in diary room = GIANT ENORMOUS SELF-OBSESSED DELUDED COCKFARMER!!!!

Oh, there was. Right next to the mic straight after he came down the steps. Loud (to rhyme with croud, obv) as you like. "Wanker".

; )

rubbish interview that we expected

dennis next, obviously

As if this couldn't get worse, CBBBM has Vanessa Feltz and John McCririck on to discuss. McCririck is making his point by waving his enormous pants around. Yet, I'm still watching!

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Sorry. As you were...

On whether he had learned anything about himself: "I thought I could get on with almost anybody, Tony Blair excepted, but I certainly couldn't. I thought I could bring people together in a common cause and I failed. I thought I could live without the news and I couldn't. I also learnt some personal things that I won't talk about here."

He sounds like he'll be dead by 8am.

How did Galloway know there would be another eviction?

This is either the coolest or the dullest interview ever, I haven't yet decided.

So it's a free-for-all for Friday between Michael, Maggot, Traci, Preston, Chantelle and George? How long is the show going to be with five evictions plus crowning of winner?

I laughed at Barrymore's USA speech when he ended with '..and maybe then we could understand what Dennis is saying!' And I laughed at Chantelle accidentally trouncing Pete in the debate.

What was the thing with her talking at Pete through the glass?

Should be interesting to see how Pete deals with it now his two fellow evildoers have gone.

Preston's going to win this isn't he? I want either Barrymore or Chantelle to win but not madly concerned. Just as long as Pete doesn't.

apparently, gg's "what kind of men are they?" comment was said, turning to pete, crouching nearby, haha

"Haha, McCririck has just described Galloway's stance on exit as similar to that of Nicolai Ceaucescu".

Is the funniest thing I've read on the internets for a while.

So yeah, every year I lurk on this website for BB commentary and it never lets me down.

And why SHOULD a non-celebrity win? That's what they have normal big brother for.

Oh, and no-one has seemingly cottoned on to George's "well, that's my last election anyway" comment. I'm sure he wasn't only meaning Big Brother there.

gg into cbblb, this morning, to the tune of "the lovecats" by the cure and then a clip sequence to the tune of edwin starr's "war" and t jones' "what's new pussycat?"

let away w/ the same selfdelusion as before re: his defence the attacked, etc, etc

moved his goalposts, slightly, though, saying "if I half-impressed 10% of the people watching" Vs. last night's "if I half-impressed half of the people watching"

dennis just boring and not realising what the question is that's been asked again ("after the dance task and now that you're out of the house, will you be taking dancing lessons?" reply: "you ain't ever gonna get me back in the house" and something about mopping the floors). also, a v peculiar moment when dermo asked denni if he would like to come and play for the milton keynes bball team, afterall, and denni sez "I don't know...it depends if I COME". dermo: "??" denni: "...sorry ...sorry". v strange

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When they played the re-run of the Diary Room bits instead, Chantelle made me laugh when she was asked by Big Brother which of the housemates were arguing. She reeled off the list of all the names ... "Dennis, Traci, Pete, George, Michael -- not 'George Michael', obviously -- I mean Michael and George". She was quite cute in her ditziness.

I wonder what GG meant by "I also learnt some personal things that I won't talk about here". Has PB been giving him some make-up tips? New wanking techniques? I am consumed by curiosity.

Chantelle 1/4
Preston 5/1
Barrymore 8/1
Maggot 12/1
Pete 33/1
Traci 50/1

Here's the latest 'finger in the air' survey...

galloway has frequently said he won't stand for re-election as an MP. this is nothing new.

of course, nobody believes a word he says anyway, so ...

Preston: "I don't want to leave and face up to anything I've done in here."

Chantelle: "What? Face up to what?"

Preston: "Erm, you know, Nothing bad, Nothing good, just things, you know."

Chantelle: "Face up to what?"

Preston: "Like wearing a leotard and stuff,"

Chantelle: "Oh, right."