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― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

And we're off.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

I love it.

― Shiny Maroon (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

HEAVY METAL REMIXES

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

Wait a minute... we're not ordinary!

― Shiny Maroon (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

That's a beautiful photo. I've never heard that album though.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

I watched "Eternal Sunshine" again last night. No movie makes me cry quite as reliably.

― Shiny Maroon (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

You're still just trying to make your sensitive guy rep.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

It's a good song (this is the CD single) - the only non-electronic song I can think of that's been on B-96 in the past few years - just voice and piano.

xpost - Jordan's right, K. I only cry for Black Hawk Down.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

No, you're right. You know what I really like? Big ol' titties.

― Shiny Maroon (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

Oh John Legend. He is a new guy, right? I think I saw him perform on TV at some NBA event and I really liked the song he sang. So tell me, is this a worthwhile album to buy? I really like soul/R&B. And the album cover.

Oh, wait. It's a single. Is there a full-length album? And is it worthwhile?

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

the only non-electronic song I can think of that's been on B-96 in the past few years - just voice and piano

There was a remake of Roxette's "Tell It to My Heart" last summer that was just voice and piano, by a Belgian group called D.H.T. -- there's a club version of it, too, but the stripped-down mix is the one that made it to radio. Although actually, I'm not sure I ever heard it on B96 -- but KISS-FM played it a lot.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

I remember that one. It was kinda nice.

― Shiny Maroon (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Erik, my soul guru, likes the JL album. There's a song on there with a tuba bassline.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

PS: I didn't like Crash or Magnolia, to be honest. I did like Short Cuts. Altman's the man.

I saw Junebug last night. I forget what you North Carolinians thought of it. I'd give it a marginal thumbs up. I'm skeptical about films that fetishize the South, and by having this urban elitist (British even!) invade the characters' space, it only reinforces the Way In Which Southerners Are Different. I sort of wished that the Embeth Davidtz character wasn't in the movie at all and it was just about the family, so it could avoid this trap. I also wished that David Gordon Green had directed it. But I did think Amy Adams's performance was very good: at first, it seemed too precious, but then that final scene in the hospital was astonishing. Again, maybe it's because I have Green on the mind, but it reminded me of Noel's monologue on the hotel bed in All the Real Girls in the range of emotions fluidly expressed within a short amount of time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

I've been meaning to see Junebug.
Also: I HATED Crash.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

I hated Junebug.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

The outsider artist was awesome though.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

i think that boy wanting to ask that girl to model for him is ridiculous.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Junebug: I give it a "meh." Jeff gave it a "YARRRRRGGGGGGGGG BOOOOO!" I overidentified with Embeth's character, even though I'm not nearly as cool as she is, I have been in the position of being trailed after by starry-eyed younger female relatives who find me strange and fascinating, and I got really, really furious when her husband would leave her to navigate her way through his irritating southern family all alone. ADMITTED PROJECTION! Although Jeff is very good about not leaving me to navigate his perplexing souther family alone - we generally just cling to each other for safety until it's all over. Then we drink. But I kept thinking that if Jeff had left me to deal, I would freak the fuck out.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Kels, remember when we tried to convince Adam M@rsh@ll that we had gone to see Magnolia in Grand Rapids, just to make him jealous, and you were all, "Oh, the old man [meaning Jason Robards] was so sweet"? Even though we hadn't actually seen it!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah! that's awesome!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

the aforementioned lurker that i think is officially ridiculous is also stirring up something in me where i just want to keep posting to that dumb thread. argh!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

i think that boy wanting to ask that girl to model for him is ridiculous.
Only total grosso creeps do that -- I know because my friend Nicole used to get this line ALL THE TIME. Vile. Right up there with "I've been told I give great backrubs." (Not to revisit the backrub convo, but...)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

One time someone told me that my "silhouette was like a Greek statue" and I was like "oh, so you've noticed my big nose?" and he pretended to be shocked that I didn't fall for that shitty fucking line. Give me a break.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

lines are hilarious. i kinda think that guy on the other thread should just do it so that he either 'learns his lesson' or dates women dumb enough to fall for it.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

The best thing he could do is ask her to model and then NOT ask her out. It would confuse her (especially if she's easily confused) and she would be like "Why isn't he trying to ask me out? He must not be a creep." Then she will ask HIM out because she feels like he's safe AND a conquest. Problem solved.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

::furiously taking notes::

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

One time.

One time, this guy came up to me and said, "I'm a photographer, I'd love to take photos of you," etc., etc. He wasn't old or creepy though. Then he gave me a -- a sort of hand-made card. Which had a very cute drawing of a dinosaur type thing on it, and his phone number. And my name. And it clearly had taken a lot of effort for him to make. He had seen me at [the place where we were] a week before, and went through a lot of effort hoping I would happen to come back the next week.

At first I was creeped out by it all, and then I decided that the guy didn't seem creepy at all, and then we hung out, and then dated, and then things got very very intense, and then about 10 weeks later it was all over, and then about 18 months later I stopped feeling quite so oppressively sad about it being over.

I don't really have a point in sharing this story.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Do not tell women that they look like a renaissance painting, they will think you are calling them fat.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

You people. Hello and happy Wednesday.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

Roxette's "Tell It to My Heart"

Duh, I meant "Listen to Your Heart." It was not a Taylor Dayne cover.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

EMOTION OVERLOAD, IN THE HEAT OF PLEASUUUUUURE

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

make that PLEAAAAASHAAAAAAAH

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Actually Jordan I would assume they he what he was talking about, because I look a bunch more like some unearthed Greek thing than I do a modern swimsuit model. Except of course that my head & all appendages are still attached.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and then a few months after he broke up with me he was interviewed by Rolling Stone and talked about how he was doomed to be alone or somesuch and I seethed.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Happy International Women's Day, Chicago!

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Oh shit. Happy International Women's Day.

Oh, and then a few months after he broke up with me he was interviewed by Rolling Stone and talked about how he was doomed to be alone or somesuch and I seethed.
I would have seethed too!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Interviewed by Rolling Stone? Who were you dating, David LaChappelle?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Chris, that story totally sucks. My apologies.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Chris - spill it!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

But did you get to keep the pictures?

I'm guessing Ryan Adams on a photography binge.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha i think someone told me i looked like a renaissance work on the underwear thread (but i'm not fat! mostly). xp as usual with me!

Duh, I meant "Listen to Your Heart." It was not a Taylor Dayne cover.

thank you for clarifying. i couldn't quite imagine.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

Gus Van Sant is a "photographer" of sorts.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

hello chicago. visiting when the thread isn't intimidatingly long, as usual.

i was once told 'you have mannerist hands', but it wasn't a pickup line. i suspect the guy on the other thread is actually 17 and scared to admit it. at least, i hope that's not how people 'my age' actually think.

anything interesting happening in chicago around 8/9 april? will be around for a day or two...

― colette (a2lette), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

(v@n S@ant! v@n s@ant!)

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Colette, I don't know about anything on the 8th or 9th, but Eazy and I are both playing a show at Schubas on the 10th, if you're still in town then!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

He was interviewed as part of a "up and coming artsy types to keep an eye on", which as you know is the kiss of death for one's career.

But he was a photographer, and had done band photo work, etc.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

(And was no one you could possibly have heard of.)

(You all had your chance to get me drunk enough to talk about the one Famous Person that I have slept with, and you wasted it.)

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Which had a very cute drawing ... on it

http://www.randomhouse.com/boldtype/1097/vansant/gifs/gus3.gif

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

Damn, I thought John had it, with the GVS's Portland connection and everything.

Not sure about the 8th and 9th, Colette, but we'll all probably be at some bar together, maybe a beer garden if the weather's good.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

I wasn't there! Can I ask who it was?

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not going to post about it here.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

DENIED.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I apologize for that really "I've got a secret that I won't tell you!" move.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.windowsmedia.com/img/prov_u/300_80/00602498831298_800x800.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

those are the moves that KILL me. I always get 1,000 times more eager to know.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

In Junebug, I thought George was really under developed. Which is unfortunate, because I thought he was really important in the story line, more than just a device to get the fish out of the water.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

That band played at my college. To this day, I can't believe they got picked over Ben F0lds. xxpost

― Steely Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

chris, can you get drunk again and email all of us about it? though, i suppose it's before noon. but, later!

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

maybe i should try & sleep with someone famous before i move to minneapolis & act all married & stuff.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

Better act fast!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

By the time I get off the train you will all have forgotten all about it.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsey, I was totally on board up until "famous".

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

That may well be true, but it's only b/c I don't know you well. If John had said the same thing, for example, I'd be bugging him about it all the time!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

um, thanks, laurel?

i actually have no interest in sleeping with anyone else at the moment, for what it's worth.

besides, who could i actually bag that was famous?

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Nash Kato?

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

(I'm just making fun of myself for being 100% prospect-free, Kelsey.)

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

If John had said the same thing, for example, I'd be bugging him about it all the time!

You also know that if I'd said the same thing, I would've confessed in like 0.02 seconds.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

(As it stands, you're probably the most famous person I've slept with, anyway.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

You could totally get some action. You're cute, kind, smart. It's unbelievably easy for a girl to get laid - if she wants. Scary easy. It's good to have standards. Currently, my standards are "monogamy" and "famous people." xpost to laurel

xpost to john: and .02 would have been a record for you!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

totally just caught on to the fact that you added another message about us sleeping together. i'm so NOT famous, but thanks.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

More famous than the other person.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Just to perpetuate things:

John & I slept together everyone! We dated 'back in the day.'

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

ANYWAY!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Whoah, hold on! That is the furthest thing from a pity party invitation -- it's just a combination of circumstances & my own contrariness at work, here.

Also, pls stop persisting in yr delusion that I am "kind". I'll only break your heart!

Also 2: Kelsey & John dialogue is cutest thing on the web this morning.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Band gossip: one of the people in my band, the dude who moved to Chi and lives uptown, is BANNED FROM THE STAGE OF THE GR33N MILL.

xpost, oh you guys.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Banned? Why?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry, Laurel. I'm smitten. What can a girl do?
Also, I didn't think of you comment as 'pity' anything. It was probably more of a restatement of a conversation I had with someone recently about how easy it is to get laid. The only thing that's stopping you is you! This would all be more comical if I were saying it out loud. Or 'aloud?' which is it Chicago: Grammar Folk?

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'm very tempted to post this, but I'll just link to it (only a little NSFW):
http://www.amolephoto.com/images/general/model%20logo.jpg

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

on craigslist today there's a posting about some new reality show or somesuch that's looking for 'married cross dressers.' as it happens, i have a friend who is married to a cross dresser. i'm tempted to send her the link.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently, the last time we played there, he pissed off some people at the jam session afterwards (he came back in with the head of a song thus preventing the drummer from taking a solo, something silly like that), and may or may not have been trying to get free drinks and get people on the list. Which we're allowed to do, but he wasn't technically in the band, he was an ex-member sitting in.

Anyway, rightly or wrongly, this is what the management has said.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

"Out loud" sounds better to my ears, but "aloud" is acceptable, too.

This one's for Jeff:

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/images/girls-aloud-hyper.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

we should post that link to ridiculous's thread!

jordan: what does this mean for your show this weekend?

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

OMG that's a butt!

― Steely Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Well, we have a full band, but I think the person in question is going to be kind of crushed about it (he lives two blocks away from the show, his new girlfriend is coming, etc.). Someone had the idea to dress him in the garb of the Orthodox Jewry so he can sit in.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

There's always the bird mask.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

Boy, did I scare everyone off with the bird masks?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

I was eating lunch. I got curry chicken salad on my desk.

― Steely Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

i'm eating in 30 minnies.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

that's easily the most boring post ever. who cares what time i'm eating?

NO ONE. not even me.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

that's easily the most boring post ever. who cares what time i'm eating?

NO ONE. not even me.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

and-a one more time...from the top

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

I need to eat. Before I get on the train for two days. Yup.

I don't remember the train station having all that many yumtastic options, though.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

I've stopped taking serious time out for lunch, at least regularly. I find that I get more done and don't feel at all bad when I leave half an hour early.

― Steely Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Chris, I used to temp right around Union Station (assuming that's where you're boarding the train) and I always liked the Venice Cafe, on South Wacker, right across from the 5ears Tower. Pretty standard italian fare, but cheap and not a chain place.

― Steely Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and they have a bar. I was always soooo tempted to have a 2 martini lunch, but that would have cost me probably 2 hours worth of meager temp pay.

― Steely Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

The train has terrible food.

Bring a bag of bagels.

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Four and twenty blackbirds baked in a pie

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

Goodbye, young Danish women.
Goodbye, young Danish men.
Goodbye, cold air, I am going away.
Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

Chris' last post sitting there at the end makes me sad, so I'm posting this...

I'm probably going to El Nandu for dinner tonight.

― Steely Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

Mmmm, empanadas.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Chris, come back -- Chicago loevs you!!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

That's the way it's gotta be, don't you see that, baby? Chris and Chicago can never be together. It's a cold, hard world, and there's darkness around every corner. Could be that Chris and Chicago could never be together in a world like that. Maybe this world is just too rotten for that kind of love.

― Shiny Maroon (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

It's just like the first time I came here, isn't it? We were talking about automobile insurance, only you were thinking about murder. And I was thinking about that anklet. Who'd you think I was anyway? The guy that's walks into a good looking dame's front parlour and says, "Good afternoon, I sell accident insurance on husbands... you got one that's been around too long? One you'd like to turn into a little hard cash?"

― Shiny Maroon (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

I've gone insane. Ignore me.

― Shiny Maroon (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

What movie is that from?

― Steely Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

If you have to ask... you haven't seen it in too long.

Think Fred MacMurray.

― Shiny Maroon (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cnn.com/interactive/entertainment/0203/wilder.films/double.indemnity.jpg

― Shiny Maroon (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

That tears it.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

I keep reading your name as Shirley Maroon.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

I am serious... and don't call me Shirley.

― Shiny Maroon (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

You can call me Shirley.

― The Milkmaid (Shirley) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Hm. I'm inclined to guess It's a Wonderful Life (because of G00gling,) but I really don't know.

― Steely Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I need a new screen name.

― Linus Cuddlefuck (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, see, the name of the movie is in the file name. It's Double Indemnity.

Yeah, I keep forgetting about the scene where Jimmy Stewart sabotages his lover's husband's brakes, evilly chucking, "That scurvy little spider!"

― Shiny Maroon (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

Ahhh... never even heard of that one. The dialogue sounded familiar though.

― Steely Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

jaymc : classic rock :: me : classic films

― Steely Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Maddie bought two packs of dvds with FIFTY HORROR MOVIES EACH last night. It's about one third forgotton crap, one third MST3K fodder, and one third classics (House on Haunted Hill, Last Man on Earth, Night of the Living Dead, Nosferatu, etc.).

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

So Renee and I have this Tuesday movie night thing, which is great, because I need to see more movies. But the problem is that she's seen EVERYTHING, so even though there's tons of classic movies (like Double Indemnity) that I'd love to see, I don't know that she'll necessarily be game.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

I'm willing to watch things twice.

(btw -- new screen name. That "shirley" thing was going to eat away at me.)

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

I only got this one through google.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever figured out where a single Kenan screen name came from.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

What's wrong with Shirley? Some of my favorite people (real and fictional) have been named Shirley.

There's Shirley Jackson, Shirley Collins, Shirley Feeney...

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever figured out where a single Kenan screen name came from.

This one's the Nancy McKeon character on "Facts of Life." Only she spelled it "Jo."

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

I would have figured you for a Blair, not a Jo.

― Steely Df'nM (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

You should see how dirty my fingernails are.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Double Indemnity is one of my favorite films EVER.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

PHYLLIS
You handle just automobile insurance or all kinds?

WALTER
All kinds: fire, earthquake, theft, public liability, group insurance, industrial stuff and so on, right on down the line.

PHYLLIS
(She sits back down and crosses her legs)
Accident insurance?

WALTER
Accident insurance? Sure, Mrs. Dietrichson. (beat) Wish you'd tell me what's engraved on that anklet.

PHYLLIS
Just my name.

WALTER
As for instance?

PHYLLIS
Phyllis.

WALTER
Phyllis, huh? I think I like that.

PHYLLIS
But you're not sure?

WALTER
Oh, have to drive it around the block a coupla times...

PHYLLIS
(Standing)
Mr. Neff, why don't you drop by tomorrow evening around 8:30. He'll be in then.

WALTER
Who?

PHYLLIS
My husband. You were anxious to talk to him, weren't you?

WALTER
Yeah, I was, but... I'm sorta getting over the idea, if you know what I mean.

PHYLLIS
There's a speed limit in this state, Mr. Neff -- 45 miles an hour.

WALTER
How fast was I going, officer?

PHYLLIS
I'd say around 90.

WALTER

Suppose you get down off your motorcycle and give me a ticket.

PHYLLIS
Suppose I let you off with a warning this time.

WALTER
Suppose it doesn't take.

PHYLLIS
Suppose I have to whack you over the knuckles.

WALTER
Suppose I bust out crying and put my head on your shoulder.

PHYLLIS
Suppose you try putting it on my husband's shoulder.

WALTER
(Smiling)
That tears it.
(He walks over to pick up his hat)
8:30 tomorrow evening, then.

PHYLLIS
That's what I suggested.

WALTER
Will you be here, too?

PHYLLIS
I guess so, I usually am.

WALTER
Putting on his hat)
Same chair, same perfume, same anklet?

PHYLLIS
I wonder if I know what you mean.

WALTER
I wonder if you wonder.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

WHY ISN'T LIFE MORE LIKE THAT?? Adding to Netflix RIGHT NOW.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Because fiction is more exciting than life. [sigh]

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, no shit! (xp)

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Double Indemnity is one of my favorite films EVER.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

Only if you want it to be, Jesse.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Oh LOLZ. One of my younger brother's friends just noticed that we like the same band (on MySpace) and is currently freaking the fuck out. I've never had my musical taste validated by one of his friends before. Nat will plotz.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

What band?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

The Bats.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Who are the Bats? I've heard of the Fruit Bats and the song "Bat Country" by Avenged Sevenfold.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

You forgot the Judybats! I think The Bats have something to do with The Clean? Shared members?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

hehe members.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yes! Band cross-pollination and same record label (Flying Nun). Amanda wins!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

JAY I PUT TWO BATS SONGS ON YOUR MIX CD!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

Only if you want it to be, Jesse.
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), March 8th, 2006.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jesse?
-- The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (showdown@wormtown.com), March 8th, 2006.

What?

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

Is this the same THE BATS on the Yellow Pills comp?

― Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

News flash: I am getting ready to boil a live lobster. Pics to be posted very soon.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - If it's poppy, I would imagine it might be. I have the Clean anthology and like it a lot. It's a little monotonous at times, but I like it.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

PLEASE DON'T POST PHOTOS OF YOUR DEAD LOBSTER ON HERE. DON'T POST PICTURES OF IT ON ITS WAY TO DEATH, EITHER.

Seriously.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

I've never heard of the Bats (links, plz!) but as soon as I saw that name I thought of Regg1e & the Fu|| 3ffect:

oh no it's the bats
oh no
run
haha
run get to the choppa

― you per (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yay, my rock band has a first show scheduled!

However, it sounds even more like a hired gun thing now - we're not going to rehearse so much as I'm just going to learn all the tunes straight off the record.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, you won't believe this, but I was thinking New Zealand! Really!

You guys are the real deal, though. I've only skimmed things about bands like that in record guides. Although one time I saw Pavement in Grand Rapids in 1997, and on my way into the club, I spotted Mark Ibold unloading gear from the van, and I tried to make small-talk -- when he said that the opening band was from NZ, I was all, "cool, so part of that whole Flying Nun scene?" Ha. I was totally desperate to be cool. I went with this weirdo gal (what was her name?) who wanted to be a fashion designer and had a locket with pictures of Stephen Malkmus and Marilyn Monroe inside. She was a freshman and had shouted across the cafeteria when she saw I was wearing a Pavement t-shirt and asked if I could drive her to the show.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

Test:

http://www.disastersrus.org/emtools/aircrash/aircrash.gif

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, I was responding to your last post on the other thread. We're on a new thread now. Do keep up.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) that's not a lobster.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not kidding. Don't post pictures of your fucking lobster.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

Please don't post pictures of your fucking lobster.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

I will not post any shocking pictures. Promise.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

Why did I bother trying to memorize this setlist during the show when it would just show up on the Internet nine years later?

Pavement - 10/1/97 The Intersection, Grand Rapids, MI
1. grounded
2. grave architechure
3. we are underused
4. stereo
5. transport is arranged
6. starlings in the slipstream
7. date w/ ikea
8. fin
9. shady lane/j vs s
10. blue hawaiian
11. summer babe
12. type slowly
13. father to a sister of thought
14. fight this generation
15. here

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.portlandmercury.com/binary/720f70ab/books2-160.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

I will take everyone's feelings into account and just post a link to my Flickr page which has very tame pictures of lobsters. SFW and SFV (Safe For Vegans).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41894171796@N01/

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:-AIOGyBqgNpVqM:members.tripod.com/~Jim_Weeks/lobster.jpg

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

I went with this weirdo gal (what was her name?)

Alath3a Jac0bs.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I'm not the real anything, J. I'm especially pathetic because my first boyfriend basically determined all my musical tastes for ever and ever. I like to think that there were extenuating circumstances and it's just plain GOOD MUSIC and he is really especially knowledgeable and I had never had an older friend or sibling who would explore things and bring them within reach for me. But I'm afraid it's still pathetic.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago)

HA! My dad had me pose next to that lobster car when we were in florida.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

Eh, maybe not, L.

hxxp://www.stylusmagazine.com/feature.php?ID=2223

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

I, however, am the real deal. (hee)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

When my little sister would bother me about new music all the time, it annoyed me. Now I've realized it was a good thing, because if I had let her first bf determine her musical choices... tsk tsk tsk, that poor woman.

― you per (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

hxxp is not a registered protocol

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I had been able to get to my girlfriend earlier. :(

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, you change the X's to T's, numbnuts.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

No, really, her musical taste if fine, but she doesn't like any Jordan music. Except for Saul Williams's second album.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

Does it ever annoy you when you try to Google someone from your past and it turns up ... nothing -- not even on Friendster or MySpace? GET ONE WEB PRESENCE.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

Nah.

― you per (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

That went fairly well. Results of this cooking endeavor: I now know that crab is way tastier than lobster, and far mor tender, no matter how it's prepared.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

Does it ever annoy you when you try to Google someone from your past and it turns up ... nothing -- not even on Friendster or MySpace? GET ONE WEB PRESENCE.
Try finding someone over the age of 30. It's way harder.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

I now know that crab is way tastier than lobster, and far mor tender, no matter how it's prepared.

Yes. Lobster is one of the four most overrated things.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

Googling me only turns up one blog that I wrote like 3 entries in. And the link to it is dead, all that remains is a cache.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

The claws are good though.

It just occured to me after I ate the tail: I am eating lobster with no shirt on.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

I thought I found some mention of an English-major symposium when I googled you a while ago.

(I clearly have not resolved "Googled" vs. "googled," although I remain steadfast on "Internet" and "e-mail.")

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

Yes. Lobster is one of the four most overrated things.

Tell me about it. UNIMPRESSED.

Tuna steak, on the other hand.

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeh! I forgot about that. "Parents of a Dream, Children of an Illusion: Something Something about Albee and Death of a Salesman"

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

What you can learn about me by googling: that I threw up in a trashcan on a subway platform and cleaned up with a political brochure. Nice.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Tuna, especially canned tuna in oil, is underrated. So are casseroles containing bread crumbs and Campbell's cream of mushroom soup. And Kraft macaroni and cheese. Or any combination of these.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

Barf.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

KING CRAB FOREVER.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

I am eating lobster with no shirt on.

Next time try tuna casserole. No shoes, no shirt, no problem.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

I know my white trash ways must seem mysterious to you...

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

Cooking that fucker with no shirt was kind of painful. Splash.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

ILX is making me giggle a lot today. Mostly on the Noise Board, tho.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm having a riot over there! And Chicago has been awesome today, many roffles.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

adamrl is a treat

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

"gay pyramid scheme!"

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'm off to the Jim again. Yesterday I learned that I was giving myself shin splints by running in my cute Ascics (sp??) rather than shoes with support. I also learned that "shin splints" is a term that is analogous to "headache." It is just pain in your shins.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

I am well aware of shin splints, unfortunately.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

What gives you the splints, Johnny?

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:42 (nineteen years ago)

When I first got to Chicago I used to get them very bad just from walking a lot. Had to stop and rest every few blocks. It was pitiful.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

Totally, but it sounds so much worse. Like little slivers of bone coming loose or something.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

John, next time we talk remind me to give you my shin splints cure -- at least for one of the painful-shin manifestations.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Laurel, share with the class! I'm a frequent sufferer.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp://www.flickr.com/photos/41894171796@N01/104107279/

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oops. Wha happened!?

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

PS-- NOT A PICTURE OF A LOBSTER!

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

Test:

ihttp://www.flickr.com/photos/41894171796@N01/104107279/

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry folks! Bear with me.

ihttp://www.tc.umn.edu/~puk/cow/cover.html

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

Um, okay. Stand up straight with feet turned out from the hip, just a little. You don't have to have 90-degree turnout or anything, but enough so that you can touch one of your heels to the instep of the other foot with both feet flat on the floor. Now with the turned-out foot, keep the heel on the floor and pull your toes up, flexing foot upward as far as you can. Repeat until the shin of your working leg burns like a motherfucker. Change feet and other side. Repeat now that first leg has had a break. Etc. Excellently and efficiently done while waiting for trains/elevators/in checkout lines.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

Pix: put an i before the URL: ihttp://whatever
Links: link!

-- Casuistry (chri...), March 6th, 2006.

That's what the hell I'm doing!

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:54 (nineteen years ago)

You're a handy person to know, Laurel.

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't that just exercising the ankle muscles, Laurel?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, sometimes it doesn't work.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, none of those are links are image files -- they're all just links to the page.

As for the shin splints, I sprained my ankle nine years ago, and it never quite healed. Coupled with my high, uneven arches (i.e., left arch higher than right), this hasn't been good for me. I can't run for more than 5-10 minutes without pain. Orthotics were supposed to help this, but they haven't. So I don't run if I can help it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, you're linking to pages, not images.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, try it and see what hurts first! Besides, where do you think those "ankle muscles" are anchored??

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Laurel's advice would be for a remedy while in the throes of splints. But thanks all the same. I tried this and the burning feels...just like shin splints! But I'm sure it builds up endurance.

Also, why am I unable to post images?

xpost

Thanks Amanada.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

I can't run for more than 5-10 minutes without pain.

I can't run for one minute without getting all out of breath and breaking a sweat. This is reason enough to avoid it, I think.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

it sounds like it's (laurel's exercise, xp) doing the opposite movement to what probably gave you the shin splints in the first place, which could well end up loosening up the muscle so it doesn't hurt like a mofo so much in the long run. maybe.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

Joe--
I was copying image location...Hmmmm....

http://www.tc.umn.edu/~puk/cow/cover.jpg

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse -- Are you an a PC or a Mac?

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I'm not sure whether "shin splints" are just sore muscles or whether they go deeper.

I have super-powered right ankle muscles from drumming.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

Sweet success!

xpost: PC.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan's right -- first you have to get the link for the image, not the whole page. GIS works for that.

I am outta here. See you soon, Debbie Boone. Lorna Doone. Clair de Lune.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

Ankle is a weird word. Ankle.

ankle
ankle
ankle
ankle
ankle
ankle
ankle
ankle
ankle
ankle

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

Nevermind you got it.

Flickr images are harder. They mask them, so you can't just "copy image location," or you'll be copying a one-pixel transparent dot of nothing. Flickr has an option to link to it, I know. Someone else explain this.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

You're a handy person to know, Laurel.

Fair's fair, ducks -- you gave us that plank stretch/strengthener for abs and I love it, it makes my back feel so much better.

Re shin splints: I think different kinds of pain all get referred to by the same name -- the most serious version is probably tiny tears in the connective tissue that holds those muscles onto the bone, milder form is just soreness or cramping in same muscles. But you can stretch/build them as a preventative, yes.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

Really? I've never had a problem right-clicking on flickr images and posting links.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

OK, so I copied the URL for this Flickr image...

ihttp://www.flickr.com/photos/41894171796@N01/104107279/

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

Damn it.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

Ankle is a weird word. Ankle.
ankle
ankle
ankle
ankle
ankle
ankle
ankle
ankle
ankle
ankle

-- Jordan (jordan...), March 8th, 2006.

Semantic saturation. One of my favorite terms.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

If you're in pain right this minute, please do yourself a favor and ice your shins. The other stretch is harder to describe, I'll have to think about it...

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

ihttp://static.flickr.com/19/104107279_ebd0f692b0_o.jpg

I went to "all sizes" and grabbed the photo's url from there. It ends in .jpg which the right click "image location" and the one from "properties" do not.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/19/104107279_ebd0f692b0_o.jpg

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

That wasn't really worth it.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

I had to copy the following:

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh it TOTALLY is. (XP)

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

href="hxxp://www.flickr.com/photos/41894171796@N01/104107279/" title="Photo Sharing">

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

John-- it was a test. (BTW, this is the 'possum I picked up that Jenny told you about.)

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, I don't use the "i", too often it doesn't seem to work. Instead I do the whole http:your url here (but then I also download and photobucket every image, I don't link to them directly -- am I stupid?).

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

(but then I also download and photobucket every image, I don't link to them directly -- am I stupid?).

You're kidding. Srsly?

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

No. I am.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

YA RLY.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

The "i" has a size limit on it, I think, but works for any size picture.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://maps.bzzt.net/users-euro-big.jpg

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

I just can't imagine doing that, L. I make so many on-the-fly joke image posts, it just wouldn't be worth it if I had to save them all and then upload them.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

I make a fair number of 'em, but only on broadband and from pretty fast computers...I mean, you have to take the time for GIS in the first place!

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

ILX hasn't been quite so funny since I've turned images off.

(I still click on half the img links, but still)

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

http:your url here that's all that's required? (I live in nearly perfect ignorance of any programming language at all.)

http://static.flickr.com/46/109787346_262446e6d2.jpg?v=0

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

OMGOMGOMG!!!!!!

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, let's time me. Pretend someone just referenced the apocalypse.

http://huuan.blog.lemonde.fr/photos/uncategorized/apocalypse_now_redux.jpg

40 seconds.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/53/109785629_b3eb4fc5e4.jpg?v=0

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

Awww, what a cutie. He looks like he's about to do that thing with Bob Dylan and the cards and the throwing over the shoulder.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

i havent been to a chicago thread in a while. whats up people?

― POOP BITCH (Mandee), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

You know what's weird? The first image was with "i" and the 2nd with

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

Hi mandee!

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Mandee!

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

Rainin'

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

Are you happy now, Jesse?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

Cheers Laurel! I'm ecstatic!

http://static.flickr.com/33/95916987_9031359b80_o.jpg

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Mandee. I'm Jesse.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

hi jesse. whats up, dude?

its snowing here! im NOT happy about it.

― POOP BITCH (Mandee), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

Give me that -- is that a martini?? You always know exactly what I need.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:26 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/32/59877682_6baa2f49e1_o.jpg

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:26 (nineteen years ago)

Pip pip, Mandee!

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:26 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) Uh oh, I think we've created a monster.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:27 (nineteen years ago)

That's a martini, and that's a hot dog.

John-I'll stop. I'm just stretching my legs. Walking my intellect.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

jesse. would you post a pic of a man serenading a woman next? thats romantical.

HI JAYMC, and LAUREL AND JORDAN AND KENAN

― POOP BITCH (Mandee), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.owainphyfe.com/owain/photos/owain/serenade.jpg

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

No. Well, OK!!

http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:I21XrW9QHJ0EDM:www.provost.uncc.edu/LatinoInitiative/Mariachi%2520serenade%2520Mexico%2520City.JPG

xpost-- She said JESSE!!! NOT KENAN!!!

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

HI, MANDEE! By the way, I was kidding on that "dating age difference" thread.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

Mine's better.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

xpost-- She said JESSE!!! NOT KENAN!!!

But I beat you. Do you see?

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

HI !!

Laurel, i wasnt offended. I was 18, it totally seems like a different person than the MANDEE of the PRESENT!!

― POOP BITCH (Mandee), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

I certainly HOPE you weren't offended! I just thought there was a chance you were referring to someone I knew...in any case, the age difference still holds true for that one as well.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

haha yeah i wasnt referring to anyone you knew :P

although the one person you know that i dated was quite a bit older than me as well!! (10 1/2 years)

― POOP BITCH (Mandee), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

I know!! Anyway, how's tricks, Sparky?

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

Im just hungry and counting down until project runway!!

― POOP BITCH (Mandee), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

What are you going to eat?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

I should go home and start smoking -- I'm just losing time, here.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

Cigarettes or weed?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

Weird, someone I barely know just addressed me as "Laurel Canyon". I sort of think he hasn't/hadn't realized the full possible range of associations; he seems much too nice for that kind of thing.

XP: Cigs. Don't smoke the MJ.

― Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus, 250+ posts in a half-day.

Nothing to do with you, Laurel, but I'm a big fan of both the neighborhood and the movie.

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

It's funny when people ask "do you smoke?" and they mean weed. Usually I can tell by context that that's what they're implying, but sometimes not.

― jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

For some reason, people always offer me weed in Chicago.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

just walkin' down the street, people throwin' weed like FRISBEES

― gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

Struttin' round head up like platinum EMCEES

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:59 (nineteen years ago)

Take a puff puff puff hand off my CAR KEYS

― Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:59 (nineteen years ago)

I just met Al3x K0tlowitz. He's nice.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:23 (nineteen years ago)

Funny about Double Indemnity. I just quoted that at length to my friend Tim after Wills and Trusts class on Monday after not really thinking about it for awhile.

JORDAN HEY JORDAN I have a VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION about those DVDs - how is the transfer? Jeff showed them to me and I got VERY EXCITED but then he said, "Eh, the transfer is probably crap," and then I got disappointed and then I forgot about it until just now so tell me, please!

Something else... Oh! Isn't Jeff awesome? Jeff is totally awesome.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:25 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, so this person just called my phone (land line) from the 708 area code and the last name was Cunn!ngham and it was this old lady. She said, "Johnny? Is Johnny there?"

"J0hnny Cunningh@m?" I asked, and she said "Is this XXX-XXX7?" and I said "No, XXX2." Then we hung up.

Does Jaymc's Nana call him Johnny?
Did she just accidentally call me instead of him?
How could this have happened?
News at 11.

(My apologies if your Meemaw/Grandma/Nana is no longer with us.)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:27 (nineteen years ago)

Meemaw!

I call mine Mom Mom.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

I called mine Nonnie.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

If I ever have grandchildren that I live to hear speak, I'm going to insist they call me Mrs. Burg3ss.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:29 (nineteen years ago)

I've only seen one of the movies, but considering that they were dirt cheap and have ghetto menus and everything, I was pleasantly surprised by how sharp and crisp King of the Zombies (1942) was. There were a couple little blips, like a millisecond of film was missing, but not a big deal.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

This is one of the movie packs we got, I can't remember what the other one was called.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:33 (nineteen years ago)

Weird. My mom lives in the 708 area code. My grandma doesn't, though. My mom sometimes calls me Johnny, but she would never ask for me that way.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:35 (nineteen years ago)

I call one grandy and one bubbe.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:37 (nineteen years ago)

I guess you also have to ask yourself what the quality of the transfers would be if you bought them singly. Unless they happened to have been blessed by the loving touch of Criterion, they tranfers probably won't be any better any place else, if the DVDs are even available any place else.

If you think of it, let me know your or Maddie's thoughts after watching a few more movies. If it's generally good, I might just pony up for it. I do love me some old horror movies, and how!

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:37 (nineteen years ago)

Will do! I'm going to leave work in a few minutes and I can't wait to get to the homebrews and old horror movies.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, Jordan! You da king.

Why is nobody impressed that I just met Al3x K0tlowitz? I mean, we like talked for awhile and everything. He might even remember me if we saw each other again, at least if I described the circumstances.

Also? I ate free sushi.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome, Jenny. I'm sure Kelsey will be impressed.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:41 (nineteen years ago)

Why? Because she's a starfucker?

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:44 (nineteen years ago)

Yes.

No, I don't know, something to do with radio, I think?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:45 (nineteen years ago)

(I was joking about Kelsey being a starfucker, btw, because of the "sleeping w/ famous people" comment up thread.)

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 9 March 2006 00:46 (nineteen years ago)

i got it!

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 9 March 2006 01:10 (nineteen years ago)

I have one grandma and formerly had a maw-maw. The maw-maw (read in French: maman) was the cajun one.

I sleep with famous people all the time. It's the one indiscretion I allow myself. I am only a man.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

I have never met any of my grandparents, and 3 are dead. But on my mom's side (when my parents briefly lived in Mexico with my mom's side of the family)my brother mispronounced "abulito" and "abuelita" so now they are referred to as "guito" and "guita", pronounced "weeto/a". That seems like a really cool name to me.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

I have a question. Why is there so much googleproofing/1337 on ilx?

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 03:39 (nineteen years ago)

because of the Huns.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 9 March 2006 03:58 (nineteen years ago)

I got blood taken today for work, and then they called me back and said they had to take it again because my blood had congealed. What? How does someone forget and let blood vials just lay around until they congeal?
In other news, I will be Chicago this Saturday but not overnight, so it looks like FUNZONE is cancelled for me. I'm sorry. My life needs some permanent plans right now because everything keeps shifting.

― jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 9 March 2006 04:00 (nineteen years ago)

jocelyn, I've had blood clot up on 2 sep. occasions. Once the whole batch clotted, and the 2nd time it was just a couple of the vials. I was told that it can happen if blood is taken from a spot that is bruised or from the first vial from a vein because of the coagulants that quickly form when the vein is pierced.

Now seriously, should I be google-proofing when I mention proper names?

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 04:17 (nineteen years ago)

no, you should never do that.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 9 March 2006 04:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/23/31893966_93e935f3c2_o.jpg

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

that's awesome.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 04:43 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, it's cuz this site can be googled easily, unlike FRM, which is registration-only.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 07:00 (nineteen years ago)

WHAT IS FRM

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 9 March 2006 07:14 (nineteen years ago)

Bill Clinton
Rick Bayless
Howard the Duck
Rachel Ray
Karen O
John Gotman

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 9 March 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

i hope howard the duck shows up on this thread

― POOP BITCH (Mandee), Thursday, 9 March 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

FRM is my own personal site w/ message board which you can find at frog rabbit monkey DOT gerousia DOT com.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 9 March 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

FRM = one of those lad magazines, innit?

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

So I was watching the Daily Show last night and Neil Young was on talking about his new movie blablabla. He was congenial. Then they started talking about NY's dogs, because of his song about his dog (King, I think?) and NY started talking about one of his current dogs and DO YOU KNOW what his name is?

CARL!

That's weird because I HAVE A DOG NAMED CARL too. So John's grandma called me AND I had a special canine connection with Neil Young in one night. The stars are aligning, people, I just know it. Exciting things are ahead. Tell 'em your psychic friend told you so.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

Also, how warm is it today!?!?! I felt my first spring zing this morning when I was walking the mutts.

― Dionne Warwick (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

You're right, it's 60 degrees. Who is Dionne?

Why are so many celeb names google-proofed? I can understand proofing your own names. Tell me more.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse Charles Kehr

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

I am Dionne.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

That is amazing, Amanda. AMAZING AMANDA!

I'm very happy with the weather this morning. My face didn't hurt on my walk from the bus stop! I even got to wear my lighter weight coat!

― Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Alpana Singh
Jim O'Rourke
Jandek
Alec Baldwin
Ron Howard
Pink Power Ranger
Barrack O'Bama
Corey Keffer

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

It would help if I could spell half these.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

My best friend Grades 3-7 was also named Amanda and her dad called us The Amazing Amandas. I was in her wedding a few years ago and he was STILL calling us that.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. There's a lot to write back about!

Jenny: I once had to do some work with Al3x's story for TAL. I logged some tape he brought back from "the field" & I thought his interviewing style was awful. Since I knew the TAL staff & knew that they'd look at the logs beforehand, I inserted a couple of comments. A couple of times when I thought he sounded like an ass, I wrote [sounds like an ass here]. There were more, but I can't remember. Anyway, long story short, he read them before the staff did & D1ane had to cover for me. So, in short, I called him an asshole but he doesn't know that it was me who did it. end of story.

Amanda: I'm even MORE endeared to Carl now! Can you believe that?! I love NY with my whole heart. Carl is a great name for a dog regardless of whether NY names his dog that or not. Also, you're right on "King."

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Jeff. What's up, my ninja?

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

I logged into FRM a few days ago when ILX was down, but felt like I was intruding and left.

Last night we made kreplach and watched half of The Last Man on Earth. That Vincent Price (sorry, V1nc3nt Pr1ce) is one classy dude.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

That movie is so good! We have the cheapy DVD of that too. It was like $1 at Walgreen's.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

W@lgr33nz

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

From the Horrible Nightmare topic on FRM, because it is truly awful

I dreamed that Courtney killed herself and I had her taxidermied. On my way to pick up her body from the taxidermy shop (who didn't think twice about the request) I was struck by how awful it was that she was dead and that I was going to have to go get her stuffed body.

I had her head taxidermied seperately for use as something (I think as an electrical outlet cover) and her body was to be used to insulate some wires that were running outdoors.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

George Romero
Rob Zombie
Boris Karloff
James Whale
Joan Rivers

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

That would be a hell of a band.

― you per (OutDatWay), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Eleanor Bron
Red Buttons
Kurt Russell

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks largely to you folks, I think I am overcoming my aversion to yogurt water. Also, last night I ate a nicely grilled piece of pancreas paté.

― you per (OutDatWay), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Francis Bean Cobain
Ed Wood
Ralph Nader
Joan Collins
Gumby
God
Cher
Charo
Madonna
Pia Zadora
Allen Heath
Michael Jackson

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

I like this game.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to pretend you haven't mentioned either of those things, Dan.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

I've been having a craving for Welsh rarebit. But I have not cheddar, nor beer, nor bread for toasting. Alas.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

http://web.nwe.ufl.edu/~ronan/Platinum/foxfight.gif

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

I know. That's what started it and then Dan's comments about dairy and toast in the same post piqued my particular pang.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

rarebit?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Write a letter of support, damn you.

http://www.artrenewal.org/articles/2006/Peter_Panse/case1.asp

― pustulantbeaver (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Beer-battered rabbit on a grilled cheese sandwich?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Rarebit. Also called welsh rabbit. In either case it's cheese and beer on top of toast, broiled till delicious.

Also a rarebit is a dish in which things like dips (crab, artichoke, etc) are baked. I once grabbed a 500 degree rarebit dish from the window at one restaurant (where I had worked for a year and knew the dish was hot) and screamed and was nearly given the day off work for being an idiot.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Contains no rabbit.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

This girl one or two rows over is BLASTING "It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp" on her headphones so loudly that I can hear it.

Now she's listening to it again.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning, Chicago. It's barely 11am and my attention span is S!H!O!T! Maybe more coffee? Maybe another 5 hours of sleep and a run around the island of Manhattan?

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh. Rarebit.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

Me too. I can't stay focused on anything. I think for lunch today I'm going to have to go for a loooooong walk, just to feel like I was out of here for a while.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

Contains no rabbit.

No, that's harebit.

*slaps knee*

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Uncle Joe is at it again!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

SPRING DONE SPRUNG. I hope you Chicagoans who drive moved your cars because they're cleaning the streetsfor the first time since November, baby. I was just looking out my window yesterday and noticing how trashy things were looking.

I see 4 cars outside of my house that are going to be paying $50 tickets.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

I'm copyediting! Easy to focus.

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

Ours is on the right side of the street. I will not pay any street cleaning tickets this spring/summer.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Where did Kevin go?

― Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

They changed our street cleaning from the randomly appearing orange signs to a "4th Wednesday of the month" arrangement. Makes me fear permit parking isn't too far behind. Good thing we're moving.

― you per (OutDatWay), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

Where did Kevin go?

i'm here but not for long. i was the sickest i've ever been (from an act of non-selfdestruction) the last two days. i came into work an hour late solely to do some things that needed to get done today and am leaving again in 11 minutes.

hopefully i'll die when i get home. or better yet, before i get home.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, where have YOU been? You've been awfully quiet and we never even hear from Nick, anymore. I don't get to see you people face-to-face, you have to keep me up to date!

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

YA RLY. Where you been?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

I'm copyediting! Easy to focus.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

OTTO, Check your gmail if you can manage it, please.

I've been here, Laurel. I feel like this thread has been like a crazy hyper valley girl the last couple of weeks. I can't get a word in edgewise, but I am still entertained.

― Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Dan-- in my hood they have the 2nd Thurs of the month system, but in addition they also put up orange signs warning unwary motorists. Or at least they did this time around. If I had a car I think I might appreciate permit parking (which we don't have around here, so I think you might still be safe) because parking after 8 or 9 pm is a bitch. Nay, strike that-- it is impossible.

If I had a car where I live now I would take advantage of my ultra-cheap available parking. $65 a month!

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

xpost--Sarah, I think that might be my fault.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

I'm very happy this morning. WHY?
* I had fun at our band meeting last night
* I'm leaving for Memphis after work today which means even better weather, hanging out with my mom and a sister, exploring a new-to-me city, and getting paid for 2 days of work while vacationing
* It ain't too shabby outside right now
* I'm caught up on my work and have already delegated some tasks for while I'm away. :-D

― Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Of course, Jesse.

Oh, and by "a sister" I obviously meant a large sassy black woman who's always got my back.

― Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

I'm happy, too.

1. Seven whole hours of sleep! = feeling motivated about work, which is good b/c I have been slacking bigtime lately
2. Warm weather = I got to wear my new shiny windbreaker for the first time
3. Massage tonight at 8 PM

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Man, I hope EZ's roomie doesn't damage her hand muscles with all the massages she's been giving. I still hope to get one when I get back.

― Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Ouch, yes, me too sorry about the valley girl nosedive.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Is anyone else excited about the Dave Chappelle Block Party movie? Perhaps we could make a plan to see it?

― you per (OutDatWay), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

I'm seeing Syriana tonight & being depressed that Leaf's ride is bringing him tomorrow instead of tonight.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

I want to see the Neil Young movie . . .

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

I do, too. And Good Night, and Good Luck. And Tristram Shandy.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I want to see GNaGL because I suspect it's more worthy of Best Picture than Crap and I need a backup.

ANYONE WANT TO GO TO SEE IT WITH ME TONIGHT?

http://puke7.tripod.com/poop.gif

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

I want to see the Chappelle movie. Evan and I were talking about possibly seeing it in Chicago on Saturday, depending on what else is going on.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

I want to see GNaGL because I suspect it's more worthy of Best Picture than Crap and I need a backup.

It's not. It's dull and obvious. It does have a twist ending, though: Joe McCarthy is the bad guy.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

HEY the Bats are playing at Maxwell's on Sunday. Anyone want to come with me??

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Can't be worse than Crash.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, I'd totally go with you to GNAGL, but my massage is at 8 and the movie is at 9:30, and I don't know that I'd want to stress out about getting there on time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Fine. FINE.

http://puke7.tripod.com/poop.gif

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

YOU LIVE IN NEW YORK

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Can't be worse than Crash.

I haven't seen Crash, but GNAGL didn't really need to exist, at least not in its current form. It should have been a documentary, really -- that could have worked. The meat of the movie is in old film footage of McCarthy hearings and in speeches taken verbatim from Murrow, and what connective tissue needs to be there could have been supplied by a voiceover. I'm thinking Morgan Freeman. It would have won best documentary, easy.

Even so, I'm not sure it tells you anything you did not already know.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just askin'. My other prospective company for Sunday is likely to flake and I don't love going to shows by myself. (XP)

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know anything about Edward R. Murrow or Fred Friendly except that they were TV newsmen in the 50s. The end.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

John. Come to the movie with me and stick your pecker through the popcorn bucket! (sorry jenny, i've found someone new)

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny usually does that for you? There are things we do not know about Jenny.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

My friend is preggers and wants to name her baby something truly horrible. I should keep my mouth shut, right?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

Just think up a great nickname for the baby and start calling it that from the get go.

― Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

(even if the nickname is not at all related to the horrible real name)

― Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

What's the name?

If my head/ears are feeling better but my throat is getting more sore, does that meaning I'm getting better or sicker?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Oh god, it's so bad I can't even tell you what it is. I'm gonna call the kid Gremlin or something.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Oh come on. Chester?

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Chester isn't even a bad name! "Chesty"

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Wolfgang?

― you per (OutDatWay), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, a friend of mine wants to name her kid Mowana. Apparently it's Hawaiian. Just tell me if this its worse or not.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Wolfgang is an awesome name.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Wolfgang is pretty awesome

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

i went to prom with a guy named wolfgang.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

She wants to name it after two of "mommy and daddy's favorite songwriters"

Why she could not have chosen two less iconic songwriters is beyond me. Let's just say that one of them has a name synonymous with "paper currency."

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to give my kids completely incongruous ethic names, like SHANIQUA LI and EDUARDO HORST.

HA HA! CASH!

― Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Bill?

― gbx (skowly), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

I feel guilty because I'm paranoid that she reads this. I'm 90% sure she doesn't but WHAT IF?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

My friend's dad is named Wolfgang, and so is my cat.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

So we got Cash. What's the other name?

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

Wolfgang is oodles better than this, Mowana is better. Think Zimmerman.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, my heart hurts for this kid.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

Dylan Cash? That's pretty yuck. But it could be worse, I guess. "Milton" would get him laid a lot less.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

So Amanda, wouldn't it be just as bad if she read this and you didn't mention the name as if you did?

Paper currency-- first thing I thought of was Eddie Money.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

Alanis Jewel

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Crow

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

My christian cousin was seriously planning on naming his son Zebadiah. Then he mentioned maybe Jacob... so I was practically screaming, OOH! JACOB IS A GREAT NAME!!

― Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Fiona Morissette

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, it's bad. It's bad all around.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Heh. Reminds me of Fortress of Solitude (Dylan & Mingus Rude).

Cash Dylan would be WAY better.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Love Corgan.

― Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Except I like Fiona -- both the name and the famous lady.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Or Mowana Cash, then she could be Mo' Cash.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Hahah, Sarah. My mom had her heart set on "Obadiah" for one of my brothers. I think my dad stonewalled that one and turned it into "Nathaniel", which is an improvement.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

"This is my son, Mould."

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Prince Gaye

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

See how this is ludicrous? I just can't imagine going through life with a name like that. [sigh]

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

I wish my parents had named me Guy like they said they were considering. Then I could play at being Quebecois.

"Ahhh ze Guy Marrrrrtain" - I'd pretty much have to be a hockey player.

― you per (OutDatWay), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

Or a punk rocker!
http://www.starpolish.com/news/interviews/MacKayeWatt2/fugazi.jpg

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I was an "Ian." Or a "Christian."

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

I have an Uncle Guy and an Aunt Joy in the same family. At a young age, Guy used to get mad at Christmas because Joy had songs written for her and he didn't...so in church he sang "Guy to the World" to get a little of his own back.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

I can't dance like him though. It's like he turns into one of those toys where you push the button on the bottom and they sort of collapse/dance.

xpost hahaha

― you per (OutDatWay), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

My friend Mandy, whose son died a day out of the womb, had named him Cash. I sort of like the name by itself, but combining it with another famous person's name is probably a bad idea, because it makes the namesake too transparent.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

That's really really sad. I mean that without a whiff of irony. Poor girl.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Dude. Dead babies are, like, the ultimate thread killer.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

My mom had a mastectomy.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

death blow.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Best fruit ever, perhaps best food ever:

PAPAYAS.

100% NO ROOM FOR DISAGREEMENT ON THIS FROM ANYONE OR I SHOOT TO KILL.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

You have got to be kidding. Papayas taste like petroleum jelly.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Now, the mango -- THE MANGO is divine.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

So, how's that weather?
What's for lunch?
Who wants to take a walk with me for the rest of my lunch break and not think about stillborn children or papaya?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

papaya tastes like vomit.

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

Papaya is the new vomiting.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

But yes, mango. Mango is fantastic. The deli around the corner always has the best mangoes -- always from Brazil, always 89 cents apiece, always firm yet yeilding.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

Mangoes are semi-close 2nd. Not too close. Mangoes have a nice piney/juniper taste that is lovely. The stringiness bugs me.

Papaya: superior taste and texture.

Best papaya I've ever eaten, besides the one I'm eating right now ($1.75 at the Mexican grocery for a fruit the size of my head): I came home after eating shrooms, began to trip after I thought it was over. Got hungry, cut open a big papaya and ate the whoel thing right out of the skin over the kitchen sink. Words can't describe the incredible sensation of the texture of that thing in my mouth and all over my face and hands. I could practically feel it becoming part of my body as it absorbed inside of me.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

Tip: put hot sauce on your mango. Tabasco will do, but I have some serrano stuff that's even better.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

I need to cut up my pineapple, now THAT is the 2nd best fruit in the world. Then maybe mangoes.

I forgot that I have a different variety of mango I could eat...it's tiny. I'm curious....

BRB with update.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

papaya tastes like vomit.

Hi Mark!

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, that's kind of HOTT, actually. (XXP) TS: Pineapple vs peaches.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

i cannot begin to imagine tabasco on a mango.

mangoes are awesome though. pineapple too. and kiwi.

pineapple totally wins against peaches.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

And hello, John's brother. Has he told you yet that I think your screen name is divine?

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

TS? wassat? I choose pineapple. I was going to say earlier that papaya tastes like peach without the tartness.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

tartness? you get a really good juicy peach in the middle of the summer, and it's all sweetness.

TS is take sides.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

You people are crazy, it's impossible to rank fruits.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

I put cayenne on mango. Yum.

My new SMALL mango is A-MA-ZING! But now I have string in my teeth!!!

http://wingolog.org/pub/grr.png

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

john, do you like that's the first thing i've posted in weeks?
laurel, no john hasn't mentioned that...just something i thought was funny in 8th grade.
i have to get ready now to have lunch with a visiting scholar who is coming to give a talk about photography. see ya.

― robots in love (robotsinlove), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

I put cayenne on mango. Yum.

See? Mexicans know.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

Peach skin is tart, regardless the position of the earth relative to the sun.

Fruits can be ranked! It's got to be possible.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

I also put cayenne on sweet apples sometimes.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

I put "Hot Sauce in the Dickhole."

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Rank fruit makes it easier to rank fruit.

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

"Robotsinlove" reminds me of a song called "Neutron Lover" and makes me laff.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff brings sensibility back to the thread.

xpost OH AND EAZY WITH THE SNAPS

― you per (OutDatWay), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

1. F. Apple
2. Peaches
3. Senor Coconut
4. Orange Juice

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

I am such a huge grape fan. Especially very firm, crunchy red ones.

― you per (OutDatWay), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

jesse, your hair grows so fast!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Eazy and you per: if fruits COULD be ranked, my vote would cancel out yours. Except coconut.

1.papaya
2.pineapple
3.coconut
4.mango
....
5.grapefruit or tomoato
6.nectarine or avocado
7.orange

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: that's not me. that's GIS for "Grr"

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

4. Orange Juice

Surely you mean Oran "Juice" Jones.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://wingolog.org/pub/bd.o-funny-header.png

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

Grapes, hmm? A dark horse!

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

That was my music-fruit list. As far as fruits, I'd go:

1. Pear
2. Apple
3. Orange
4. Pluot
5. Coconut
6. Blueberry
7. Raspberry
8. Grape

― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

I also put cayenne on my mango. It is a summertime treat.

Tomorrow it will be 75 degrees and sunny in Memphis.

― Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I could rank fruits, but I eat an apple or applesauce about every other day.

― Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

ammendment (a work in progress)

1.papaya
2.pineapple
3.coconut
4.mango
....

5.pear

6.grapefruit or tomoato
7.nectarine or avocado
8.orange
9.blackberry

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

Favorite Yoplait flavors:

1. Blueberry
2. Peach
3. Lemon
4. Strawberry cheesecake
5. Boysenberry
6. Apple banana strawberry

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

top veggies:

tied for number 1. asparagus and broccoflower
2.broccoli
3.rutabega
4.potato
5.brussel sprouts
6.snow peas/sugar snaps
7.cauliflower

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

fruit ammendment:

boysenberry goes in there somewhere too.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

I can't rank fruits, but my top five would probably be:

cherries
mangoes
blueberries
nectarines
apples

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

top five swap-out fruits:

tangeloes (sp)
grapefruit
pineapple (actually, pineapple is probably has a strong position in the top five)
pears

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

ooh. veggies.

1. tomato (technically fruit)
2. cucumber
3. spinach
4. carrot
5. celery
6. corn (technically grain)
7. potato
8. broccoli
9. yam
10. anything with cheese on it

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Favorite sandwiches:

1. Peanut butter and banana
2. Ham and swiss with mayo
3. Tomato and mozarella with basil

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm too tired to narrow my favorite sandwiches down to three. That would take some serious thinking.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

Possibly graphs.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

top veggies:

kale
sweet potato
soybeans (in all its forms)
broccoli
spinach
beet
carrot
corn
jicima
kohlrobi

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

I honestly think of Jordan as a Pizza Man first and a Sandwich Man second.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Now you've gone too far, kenan. Sandwiches cannot and should not be ranked. You suck.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

WOW. Cucumber made your second slot!

― Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/50/109792597_39a636e201.jpg

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/3/3395220_fbd74acc56.jpg

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

I think you're right, Kelsey. However, I did defend sandwiches on a pizza thread where they were being unfairly maligned.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.vittlesvamp.com/image/turkey.jpg

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

Holy hilarity. How do the cat & parrot normally get along?

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

Red Bell Pepper (roasted)
Sauna Makkara
Olive Tapenade
Potato Sausage
Cabeza Tacos
Thai Curry anything with Coconut Milk
White Cheddar
Mixed Berry Yogurt
Cinnamon Granola Bars
Pilsener Urquell
Jalapeno Krunchers
Potatoes Cooked in Tin Foil in a Fire with Onions, Garlic, Pepper, etc. (And Sauna Makkara)

― you per (OutDatWay), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Fine.

http://www.thecatgallery.com/images/cat-carrying-bird-2.JPG

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

The bird ignores the cat. Cat occasionally tries to touch the bird with a paw, but is soon frightened away.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

See? and that doesn't surprise me at all. You're the type of guy to say, "Look, I'm a Pizza Guy, but if you're going to not represent the sandwich dutifully, I'll quickly turn into a Sandwich Guy."

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

After all that talk of 'gal' & I go from saying "man" to "guy."

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

WOW. Cucumber made your second slot!

hells yeah. I'monna go home and have be a big ol' bowl of cucumber tonight.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

I am not ranking fruit and vegetables on the Internet. I just spent over two hours writing a C4n4st4 e-mail announcement. Now I want lunch.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

Btw, did anyone else get a txt msg from Chris this morning? Mine said "Greetings from Minot ND!"

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

I just saw Jeff on State St. and he didn't recognize me! Then I tried to stop and talk and he tried to scoot away, but I wouldn't let him, I just kept talking. Then we parted ways and I tapped him on the shoulder awkwardly, then I ran to a meeting I had forgotten about.

I am not ranking fruit and vegetables on the Internet.
Me neither. I do love cucumbers, though.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

I am not ranking fruit and vegetables on the Internet.

harumph. Then you two can't be in the club.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Cucumbers are good, but I can't understand how they could be someone's second-favorite vegetable. Sure, they're cool and crisp and refreshing, but they're not very flavorful.

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Sure, they're cool and crisp and refreshing, but they're not very flavorful.

I like the way they taste just fine. I also like the way filtered water tastes.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm not so good at awkward encounters. Just sweep my legs out from underneath me next time and I'll be more likely to give a good converstation.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 9 March 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

I was just pleased to see someone I knew - seriously, I sit here all day, am on the train for almost 2 hours a day...it's nice to see a familiar face.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

I got the text. I replied then got one from MT which sounded boring, understandble considering he was on the east side.

cukes: meh.

to the Jim.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Thursday, 9 March 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a cuke smoker.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Here's what you do:

Boil 1.5 cups of water or so.
While it's heating up, seed and thinly slice up a cucumber or two.
Also, slice up several red chiles. Jalapenos work. Take out all the seeds if you're a wuss.
Additionally, finely dice a red onion.
When the water boils, dissolve a couple tsp of sugar in it. More or less to taste.
When the sugar dissolves fully, turn off the heat and add some white vinegar to the water. Again, to taste.
When the mixture has cooled a little, dump all the chopped veggies in the liquid. It should cover them completely but not to the point where they're floating around.
Cover and put the whole thing in the fridge. Let it cool about an hour.

Drain off some of the liquid if there is a lot of extra. There should be a little left for each serving, though. This is teh bomb ass side dish for satay or other thai type dishes. The vinegar/sugar/chile/broth combination is great with the cukes. Add carrot or cabbage for fun!

― you per (OutDatWay), Thursday, 9 March 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

I'll do better next time!

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 9 March 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Dan, that sounds fantastic.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, I love the first pic with Brenda, lobby, and the bird. What's the bird's name?

― Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 March 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Kenny

aka will bite the shit out of your hand if you try to pick him up and show any fear.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Thursday, 9 March 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

pancake the rat slept on his new hammock for the first time two days ago. i was so excited i took a couple of pictures!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 9 March 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

That's adorable. He has a hammock? Does he stretch out or curl up?

I just got the best box in the mail from my friend in Brooklyn!!
Contents:
(1) little tub of hair goo
(4) large homemade frosted sugar cookies
(1) bag of cheddar cheese pretzel Combos
(1) level (for Dan)
(1) Vosges spicy chocolate bar
(3) mix cds

Why, you ask? I don't know! Just for fun. Do I have the best friends or what?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

It's true, NYC has the best Combos in the world.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

For Kelsey: Top 100 Harmonica Lines

― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 9 March 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

I'm thinking of getting this for a tattoo:

http://static.flickr.com/13/110205064_2567d83f95_m.jpg

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

Uh, why?

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

fleur de lis = New Orleans, all that

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

Oohhh, silly me.

― Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 9 March 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

nick, sarah, i sent a myspace message to my friend. i'll be offline until tomorrow morning so if you need anything you can get me then.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 9 March 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

I like that tattoo idea, Jordan.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Thursday, 9 March 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

UNICODE FUNZONE

I heart publishing.

― you per (OutDatWay), Thursday, 9 March 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

Dan, you should change your screen name to Super Yooper.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

Bye, ya'll!

― Sarah Madkitten McLusky (coco), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

Have a great trip!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

Dan, you should change your screen name to Super Yooper.

DONE

― super yooper (waah christ dere pard) (OutDatWay), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

Soo-puh-puh Yoo-puh-puh

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

Shit! How could I forget the essential: "eh" ?!?!? Fixed that.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yooper Slang (unofficial)

The "unofficial" is key because I lived there for 20-some years total and I never heard some of those.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

wow. that harmonica thread is barely tapped!

also: pancake was curled up! even cuter!!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

amanda, are frosted sugar cookies your favorite? i remember going on an adventure with you to find one . . .

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

Also (and I swear this is the last UP-related link I will post today) Amanda, this may appeal to your linguistic side: http://www.admin.mtu.edu/urel/breaking/2002/bergvall.html This is about a study one of the profs in my department in college did on the local dialect.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

amanda, are frosted sugar cookies your favorite? i remember going on an adventure with you to find one . . .
sweet jesus, yes they are. i like other cookies, of course, but nothing satisfies a craving for frosted sugar cookies other than the real deal. katie (my friend) makes perfect ones and i have three more left to eat. yummmmmm. you remembered!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

also, thank you for that article! i'll read it at home.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 9 March 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

oh god i have a major weakness for frosted sugar cookies, too.

more evidence that amanda is my mom

― POOP BITCH (Mandee), Thursday, 9 March 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

Still straight mommin' it in '06.

Hey, I saw JORDAN in the Reader on the train on the way home. There is a huge ad for his band's show at the Mill this weekend -- with a photo!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 00:46 (nineteen years ago)

Dope! Congrats!

I think I may make it to the Mill this weekend. Part of my efforts to end this streak of never seeing anyone, ever.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 00:48 (nineteen years ago)

I was good n' wet by the time I got home. I decided to walk, just because this is the first day it's been warm enough to. Of course it was also raining, but to hell with it. Downside: soggy socks and jeans. Upside: the feeling of crispness and liberation when you finally remove your socks and jeans. It's better than being freshly showered, because showers don't suck while you're in them.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 00:52 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda mentioned spicy chocolate. Today is the day for pungent sweet things. I just went to Starbucks and drank me a big old delicious cup of spicy cocoa. Chocolately, thick with just a hint of peppers.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 00:53 (nineteen years ago)

When I went to the gym I wore shorts, microfiber Tshirt, and a hoodie b/c it was not cold. Then it began to rain and the temp. dropped 10 degrees. I was on my bike.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 00:57 (nineteen years ago)

Was that the chantico stuff? I've always wanted to try that but am fairly convinced that it will make me instantly too fat to wash myself.

Poor Jeff is out in this crappy weather trying to find a parking space on the legal side of the street.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

Chocolately, thick with just a hint of peppers.

Cholocolate and pepper. Another thing Mexicans understand but the rest of the world hasn't caught up with yet.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

It's a Chantico base but seemed less thick and had SPICE!

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

haha "cholocolate"

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, that sounds sublime.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 01:02 (nineteen years ago)

I got another text from Chris. He was in Havre MT having his "traditional ice cream sandwich." There were more cute boys around than usual.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 01:03 (nineteen years ago)

that it will make me instantly too fat to wash myself.

Jeff's fingers will still be thin enough to fashion you a rag on a stick.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 01:05 (nineteen years ago)

What night are people going to the Green Mill?

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 10 March 2006 01:41 (nineteen years ago)

Help me choose:

1. Movie
1.1 With booze
1.2 Without booze
a.9:30 showing of Capote
b.10:10 showing of Good Night and Good Luck

2. Stay Home
2.1 With booze
2.2 Without booze

1.1-a, 1.1-b, 1.2-a, or 1.2-b OR 2.1 or 2.2

Please respond in the next 5 min
Also, help me better write out my thoughts.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:28 (nineteen years ago)

9:30 Capote, without booze.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

Defend your answer.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

...Using only animated .gif's and emoticons.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

1. there's plenty of booze in Capote, and you will feel better watching it not having consumed booze.

2. it's a good movie and way better than the other one. also, PSH is cute. at least i think so. truman capote, not as cute, but PSH is cute.

i don't do gifs

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

Also, you're not choosing in the preferred format. You meant: 1.2-a

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:35 (nineteen years ago)

PSH is not cute. No.

I would be having a glass of champagne during the movie.

I may just take your recommendation.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

well, a glass of champagne would be classy, and you can pretend that you're at one of his fancy parties.

he's totally cute. come on!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:37 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, he's not like HOT CHA CHA, but he's appealing. Let's not get into this -- you need to get ready to go to the CINEMA.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:38 (nineteen years ago)

I think the image burned in my brain is PSH as a sweat-hog in Magnolia, Happiness and some other things I don't feel like researching. But did anyway: Love Liza.

I am wishy-washying. It's raining and I'm kind of broke. I wish I had friends who loved me and someone who would sodomize me so I wouldn't have to make these decisions. :(

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

sexy parties >>> fancy parties

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

what's a sexy party?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:48 (nineteen years ago)

you know, like a normal party.....but, uh, sexier.

also: sodomy, I think.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:50 (nineteen years ago)

eek, count me out.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

What? >>>? Way way greater than?

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

exactly three times greater than.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:54 (nineteen years ago)

What's a sexy party? Sex party?

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:55 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda is quite correct. See Capote, definitely. But don't see it drunk. (Don't see any movie drunk, unless it's supposed to be funny.)

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:55 (nineteen years ago)

Don't see any movie drunk, unless it's supposed to be funny.

WRONG.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:57 (nineteen years ago)

KUNGFU!

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:58 (nineteen years ago)

it's a good movie and way better than the other one

I love that you said this. I was beginning to think that I was alone in thinking that GLAGL was the unworthiest of the best pic nominees.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:58 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't see it drunk, but rather would drink while watching it.

In any case, I've opted for 2.1 or 2.2. I am tired.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:58 (nineteen years ago)

Don't see any movie drunk, unless it's supposed to be funny.

WRONG.

Or unless it's a movie about a drunk, I guess. You can see The Verdict drunk. Lends to the authenticity of the experience.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

You're forgetting kung-fu movies, Kenan. SEE ABOVE.

Or, should I say: kung-FUN.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

I am deliberately forgetting kung-fu movies. I hate them, with only a handful of exceptions.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

We can never be friends.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

Honestly, with no exceptions. I don't care for fight scenes any more than I care for soccer. I'd much rather people got shot.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

I don't care for fight scenes any more than I care for soccer.

I never want to see you again.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:06 (nineteen years ago)

I meant that the sport of soccer appeals to the rest of the world, but not me. Just as martial arts seem to make a good fight scene for everyone else, but I'd honestly rather see Bruce Willis.

I am American. I am not going to fight my cultural impulss regarding violent movies any longer. I am going to stop pretending that there is "artful" violence and violence that is sillier. That's ridiculous. Go ahead, kung-fu your asses off.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:13 (nineteen years ago)

flips, dude. FLIPS.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:15 (nineteen years ago)

Crashing through windows, dude. CRASHING.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

kung fu does that, too.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

I AM NOT ARGUING ABOUT KUNG-FU FIGHTING ON THE INTERNET

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

haha

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:19 (nineteen years ago)

kung fu does that, too.

Ok, but they don't shoot the window first, like Bruce Willis in Die Hard, to break it enough that they CAN crash through it. See? realism.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

There can be no winner to the "whose culture's violence is better" argument.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:23 (nineteen years ago)

Tarantino would disagree.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

Well, maybe.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:28 (nineteen years ago)

So, Chicago, the local primaries are on March 21. Since it's the little offices that have the greatest impact on our daily lives, and this is about as close as your vote will ever come to actually counting, I am posting lists of primary candidates for Illinois and Cook County government positions.

http://www.modernvertebrate.com/elections/2006-illinois/index.html
http://www.modernvertebrate.com/elections/2006-illinois/cook.shtml

Also, the last time I voted in IL we ate breakfast at Burger King so now I associate voting with those crunchy little hash brown rounds. Vote! It tastes like breakfast!

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:30 (nineteen years ago)

Find your congressional represenative here: http://www.house.gov/writerep/

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:32 (nineteen years ago)

Note: All this voting is to make up for the fact that I didn't vote in the 2000 presidental elections. AND LOOK HOW THAT FUCKING TURNED OUT!!!

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

I lived in NC, that was my excuse.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

I always vote -- it's IN ME BLOOD.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:43 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Jenny, do you have anything to do with this monster rally that's going on tomorrow? I heard on the news that they're going to end up at Federal Plaza, which JUST HAPPENS to be two blocks from my office, so I might go take some photos and check it out. Are you gonna be around?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:47 (nineteen years ago)

Feel free to get back to me on that via email, so we don't bore everyone.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:47 (nineteen years ago)

That Burger King closed, became a Burger Delights, became a Chicken Delights, closed and is now a Brown's Barbeque and Chicken.

JOHNNY is coming over here with "the goods!" Right NOW!!!!!!!

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― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:50 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know if Jenny's going to be around, but I'll be out and about from 1 to 2 in the area. I'll say hi.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 10 March 2006 03:53 (nineteen years ago)

OK. OK JOHN. I won't post that picture. Fine. OK.

I promise.

I'll post it on FRM since that's OK with you.

Cool.

You're parked illegally.

OK. See you soon.

Take care.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 04:09 (nineteen years ago)

You lost me.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 04:12 (nineteen years ago)

He was talking to me. I was standing over his shoulder.

Kenan, do you still want to go to Belle & Sebastian/New Pornographers tomorrow night? I can pick you up at 7. Show's at 7:30.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 04:35 (nineteen years ago)

yes, plz.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 04:50 (nineteen years ago)

Yay.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 04:51 (nineteen years ago)

Hey John - I just got home. Were you over here? Did you pick the Blonde Redhead (as opposed to the blonde redhead)?

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 10 March 2006 05:40 (nineteen years ago)

She had it on already. I said "haha, Eric told me this is what would be playing." I assumed, when you mentioned it, that it was a later album, but it was actually their third, Fake Can Be Just as Good (1997) -- which def. has a hazy, dreamlike quality that could be conducive to massages, but also kinda rocks in parts, too. I had brought the Junior Boys album but didn't put it on because I was afraid I'd be self-conscious about it the whole time -- i.e., wondering what she thought about it during the massage.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 05:45 (nineteen years ago)

my roommate has something to do with that rally tomorrow

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 06:16 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have anything directly to do with the rally. I am pretty sure Worker Justice, Inc. is going to have people involved. I will be working, but might slip out on a "lunch break" to go holler and wave a sign for a few minutes, if I can. I'll text you if I can get out of the office for a bit!

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

That last part was to Amanda, obv.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

Mmmmm salmon for breakfast, today. A good start. Also, I am SOOOOOOO much calmer since rehearsal kicked my ass last night -- I need to remember to work out more.

Also? Kung-fu good.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Kung-fu good.

YES. Thank you.

What kind of dancing do you dance, Laurel?

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh, salmon. In what context?

There is a huge ad for his band's show at the Mill this weekend -- with a photo!

Cool, Amanda! I looked at the online version but I didn't see a mention anywhere.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Scottish, and on a bagel!

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Excellent. Speaking of which, Ashkenaz for breakfast tomorrow!

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, can we compromise on action films with Hard-Boiled?

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan - I don't know if they have the ads in the online version -- I mean, it may not have been as GINORMOUS as I made it out to be, but it was large enough that I noticed it. It's in section 3, you can pick one up this weekend!

I'm kind of excited about this rally. Does anyone know what time they're winding up in Fed. Plaza?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, can we compromise on action films with Hard-Boiled?

Yes. But no Woo later than that.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Drunken Master II would also have won my heart. But that's it! I said I hate kung fu, and I have to stand by that.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and Stephen Chow movies. I love those.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

I said I hate kung fu, and I have to stand by that.

It's ok to admit you're wrong.

Laurel: like, with swords and stuff?

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

I believe in signs. I believe when you wake up and can't find your glasses, it's not a good sign. Took me a good five minutes.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

I believe in signs too. This morning I felt like a machine, an accomplishing-stuff machine.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

I found the shirt that I am wearing right now thanks to a Kyle Baker comic book.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

that happens to me on a daily basis. xpost to kenan's comment about glasses. i wish i were joking or exaggerating.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

but it was actually their third, Fake Can Be Just as Good (1997)-- which def. has a hazy, dreamlike quality that could be conducive

weird, my regular bar had this on when i was in there tuesday night. the previous week when i was in there in an expression of the inexpressionable was on.

chicago seems to love it's touch and go.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Dance: Yes with swords, and kilts and flings and stuff.

Kung-Fu: Drunk is better than sleepy -- I"ve had Dragon Inn at home for a week but I've been turning in too late to keep my eyes open.

Amanda/Jen: What's the basis for today's rally? I think I missed some crucial part of that conversation.

Glasses: That sucks. Even worse is taking yr contacts out without ascertaining exactly WHERE your glasses are first. At least when I wake up there's a very good chance they're right on my nightstand.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

if john were around, he could probably attest to it from Our Dating Years. There were many a morning, afternoon, and evening when he'd hear, "Johnny? Have you seen my glasses?"

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

i know nothing about scottish dancing, but i'm intrigued that you do this, laurel!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

GOD OF COOKERY

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

I found the shirt that I am wearing right now thanks to a Kyle Baker comic book.

Which one? I quoted from "Why I Hate Saturn" for years. Unattributed, even.

Hey... who wants to cut out of work early with me and go to the movies? I'm so tempted...

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Hee, "Johnny". I'm totally switching to that, forget "Jay".

Kelz, it's easy, I started as an adult and you don't have to sell your soul to a certified teacher unless you want to compete. We're technically a dem(onstration) team so we don't compete in the system but we perform lots and I have occasionally made quite good money at it.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

It's in favor of the rights of undocumented workers -- there was an article in the Reader about the Minutemen Club (group? organization? whatever) and how they're trying to get the gov. to "crack down" on immigrants/immigration. Now approximately 25,000 people will be demonstrating and striking (for one day) in order to show how the economy would shut down should undocumented workers not be permitted to do their jobs. It's a hairy issue, but one that affects me directly (as an ESL teacher) and (pardon the cheese) emotionally.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Which one? I quoted from "Why I Hate Saturn" for years. Unattributed, even.

Yeah, it was WIHS. After I had looked all over the floor and bathroom and was convinced I lost my nice shirt, it was, of course, hanging up in the closet.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

It's in favor of the rights of undocumented workers

oh, right. my roommate's organization is basically running this thing

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Rally: Awesome! We've been having that conversation in the media again and again here because of laborers slowly settling in the well-to-do towns in the Hamptons & other resort areas. Because millionaires' children don't DO lawnmowers. Or windows. Or construction. Or the laundry. Etc.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

The little cafe in the building I work in is closed today because the workers are off at the rally. According to the managment of the place, 3/4 of their workforce aren't coming in today.

Also, was the march starting in Union Park? I drove past at about 8 and there was a group of people already there, and TV and radio vans.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, Union park to the plaza.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

BTW, Jay: Oxford Collapse just signed to Sub-Pop and are touring soon/now. Will be in Chicago on 3/12 at the Beat Kitchen with err...Plastic Constellations and Part Chimp (neither of whom I know), and then on 3/31 at Schuba's with the Joggers. GO!

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

I'm getting no takers for this not working/movie idea. Whassa matter? Don't you people like the movies better than work?

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Question: in case I get in early-ish tonight, any suggestions for places to eat near the Mill? I only know the hot dog place on one side of it and the Mexican place on the other.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

What type of food?

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Anything good.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Any where up clark street (one block west of the Mill). T's isn't too far and they have good burgers.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

and DOUBLE pints of beer.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

If I cut work early today, it would be to TAKE A NAP. And that's all. I'm half-tempted to go home and sleep during the New Pornographers set (no Bejar, no credibility) and then show up for Belle and Sebastian.

I'm not interested in any movies with violent fighting, no matter what their country of origin.

Clark Street is more like three or four blocks west of the Mill. And then T's is another two blocks north.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

There's also a fancy new sushi place near Borders, Magnolia Cafe on Wilson, a whole lot of Dunkin Donuts...

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

and DOUBLE pints of beer.

I'm in.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, jaymc. Not even if they're artsy and stylized like an Ang Lee joint or hip and pastiched like Kill Bill?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

KENAN I WILL GO TO THE MOVIES WITHYOUCALLMEOREMAILME.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

uGH. I told my head shrinker that I had a problem sleeping sometimes so she prescribed me trazadone which is a very old-fashioned anti-depressant that causes sleepiness and one of the side effects is priapism. I feel like shit. I'm groggy and irritable.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, jaymc. Not even if they're artsy and stylized like an Ang Lee joint or hip and pastiched like Kill Bill?

Haha, I do like both Crouching Tiger and Kill Bill. All right, never mind. But I'm not really interested in John Woo at all.

----

Okay, some of you may have already gotten the C4n4st4 e-mail announcement, but for those of you who haven't ...

We are playing Schubas every Monday night in April, which will be pretty rad on its own -- but we're also gonna debut two new original songs, as well as two new covers. The gimmick is that we're letting the fans decide what covers we play, from a group of eleven nominees:

Bachelorette - Bjork
Digital Love - Daft Punk
Dreams - Fleetwood Mac
Everybody Wants To Rule The World - Tears for Fears
Everything Hits At Once - Spoon
Killer Queen - Queen
Like I Love You - Justin Timberlake
Never Tear Us Apart - INXS
The Only Living Boy in New York - Simon & Garfunkel
This Kiss - Faith Hill
West End Girls - Pet Shop Boys

If you want to vote for what songs we do, send an e-mail with your TWO favorites to covers AT canastamusic DOT com.

BTW, Nick hates this idea. Fuck 'im.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

one of the side effects is priapism

Groggy, irritable, and ready to roll.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

If I were Jordan, I'd probably mosey north on Broadway -- all the good Vietnamese restaurants are only two blocks north of the Green Mill. And there's a Thai place or two as well, like Thai Pastry.

Amanda is also right about the sushi place, Agami, that's right on the other side of Lawrence, down a half block.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

You can do 7 courses of BEEF at Hai Yen.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

so she prescribed me trazadone which is a very old-fashioned anti-depressant that causes sleepiness and one of the side effects is priapism.

Trazadone fucked my shit up. Hated it. Made me feel like I'd been hit by a train in the morning. Like many of the drugs I've had prescribed to me, I took it once, and never again.

Don't get me started on Effexor. That shit is FUCKED.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, I may do the sushi place for something light(er than 7 courses of beef).

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, we may be heading up to Hai Yen this weekend. If so, I will demolish the 7 courses with my tiger style.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Thai Pastry is great. don't be fooled by the name. Great Tom Yum and Tom Kha Kai!

Vietnamese: D.

xpost- my xBF-thingy gave me a heavy dose of Effexor and said it would be a good pick-me up. I took it before work, turned pale and spent 30 min in the bathroom retching.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Oxford Collapse just signed...

the 7"s and mp3s i had from them really got my hopes up but when i saw them last july at the bottle.... eh. left me flat. there was none of that shambling chaotic mess in the live show. they approached chaos then backed off as if they were afraid to bust loose. they left me with the impression of being just another tepid indie rock band.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Uh oh, that's like the kiss of death for me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

I took it before work, turned pale and spent 30 min in the bathroom retching.

It kept me up all night, tripping, like I'd taken a heavy dose of ephedrine.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

P|astic Conste||ations are supposed to be a good time live.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Salmon sucks. Blech.

Top choices of fishes I've known:

1. Chilean Sea Bass
2. Halibut
3. Tuna (not canned tuna, NEVER well done. Raw or med-rare)
4. Swordfish
5. Grouper
6. Your Mom's Red Snapper

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

I'd second (xpost - third) Thai Pastry as a good idea, north on Broadway from the mill. Or the pizza-by-the-slice place in the strip mall, if you're just looking for something quick.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

Hm. I can't comment any further on Oxford, Otto -- I've seen them once as a charmingly shambolic 2-piece in a terrible setting, and once as a 3-piece when they were the LEAST chaotic band of the evening and I was so grateful, after listening to 3 messy sets, that they had their shit together. But I haven't bought any of their releases. My enthusiasm for them comes partly from the fact that I accidentally made friends with one of the band members and I like everyone I've met who's associated with 'em. Plus they are collectively in love with the Embarrassment.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

Well wait. I have had good salmon, but I think it can happen in the Pacific NW. Atlantic salmon suxxxx and salmon patties certainly sux more.

And lox? Retch! It's like someone opened Omega-3 caplets onto slime-covered meat.

All this is just MY OPINION. Please do not take it as a FACT.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'll let you know after I listen to your mix CD (which came in the mail yesterday!) whether Embarrassment-fandom is a good thing or not.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

IT IS AND I BROOK NO DISAGREEMENT. JOHN.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

I voted for the covers.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Me too.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Can I vote even though I won't be coming to see you play? :(

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Honestly, I'm not a big lox fan either. I love white fish (tilapia, sole, whatever), tuna steaks, and most other fish depending on how it's cooked. I'm a bad Jew.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

I listened to some Embarassment on emusic the other day (because of your props on listless listening, L). I liked it!

SEND ME A CD, TOO

Also, Pylon. Shit is new to me.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm, I was going to say that the phrase "brook no disagreement" makes me think of something Amateurist said once about Pita Inn being the greatest restaurant in the history of civilization "...and I will brook no etc." -- but the only thing search turns up for the phrase is this:

"A good librarian and a good secretary both brook no disagreement." Soz.
-- Laurel (sininspac...), January 3rd, 2006.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

I will send you all a CD if you press me. Maybe even if you don't. Once I have your addresses, all bets are off.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

And yes, anyone can vote on the covers!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

i keep starting to vote and changing my mind.

salmon is awesome. lots of fishes are, if fresh and prepared well.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

It's OK Jordan, I'm a bad Seventh-Day Adventist. I LUV fish without scales!

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

I even got a nice response from C@nas+a Central.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Is anyone else down with the movies? I sense some trouble a-brewing regarding the particulars of which movies we'll see....

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Amanda, I think you made a typo. It's spelled Canasta.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Right now I would just be making the same CD for everyone, because what I put on John's mix is exactly what I've listening to for months, now. Or rather, it's mostly the raucous stuff -- I left off the Hem & Pernice Bros & most of the quiet things. But I've just ripped a whole bunch more albums to mp3 and now i have a new listening list, have to see how that turns out.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

I'd rather go home and make everyone a CD, honestly.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

xpost to Jesse

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

My therapist talks about this. Defining your desires. I desire to leave work, yes, but I also desire to go home and sit around in my undies. I have to understand that, and make it happen.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever's fine with me.

I"M EASY

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

So who wants a Kenan CD? The email address below works.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

OMFG!!! My downstairs Mexi-neighbors play oompah tunes at full volume every morning at this time. It shakes my dishes and nerves. Now there is a car outside with bass that rattled the window frames. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

― unclejessjess (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, can the rest of the board sit around in your underwear too?

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

If you think you can fit. I only have so much elastic.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

Based on the names on the mailboxes in your building, Jesse, all your neighbors are Mexi-neighbors.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

Evan, I'm glad you liked the E! I'm taking "Drive Me to the Park" as my song for spring, I think. And Pylon is new-ish to me, too. Somehow I have a collected hits album, am working my way down the list. I have to stop starting at the BEGINNING, though, because I'm not fresh anymore by halfway through.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. My friend just YSI'd me the 2 Live Crew album Move Somethin'. I haven't heard this since we were hiding from our parents sneaking listens to a dubbed tape that we had.

It's such terrible rap but so terribly funny right now.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

They are. But the twats downstairs play the music. My next-door neighbor used to play Latin-American music, Kylie Minogue and Appetite for Destruction.

I live in a building that has housed more than a couple homomexicans. Next door neighbor, me, former tenant in my apt., and I think the downstairs neighbors.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Ah wait, I do have an Embarrassment song on my iPod. It's called "Sex Drive." I am going to listen to it now.

...

Hello, postpunk.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

My tentative plan for today: ride red line down to Belmont, transfer to purple line express and ride it up to Howard then up to Evanston to see Matchpoint or Capote or both. I've never ridden the express and have always wanted to.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I should listen to this while reading that new Simon Reynolds book.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

I like Latin music. A lot. In fact, I just made a little mix for those times when my life needs mas saborrrrrrr.

The express is fine. I ride it occasionally, when I very occasionally visit the geem after work.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

Ahhh, post-punk: love at first listen.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

I really don't like it. It sounds corny and very repetitive. Except occasionally things like Control Machete or some kind of punk stuff from Mexico, but not really.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

I am pretty picky about my post-punk, I think.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

What is this "post punk"?

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Who are the Embarassment? Can someone YSI me? The email below works.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

I like "post-punk" ok, but it sort of sounds like teenager music to me, since I listened to all that stuff when I was a teenager.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

Also, when I was a teenager I never knew I was listening to "post-punk." I thought it was "modern rock."

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

I think I like the premise of post-punk more than the execution, usually. I like the attitude but the music is sometimes lacking. For every "Damaged Goods," there's some terribly tedious PiL song.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

hot funk cool punk even if it's old junk it's still rock n' roll to me

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, that was supposed to be a xpost to Amanda. I don't care for Latin music. Post-punk, yes.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'm listening to PJ Harvey now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

The AMG entry for post-punk reads like a mixtape I made in high school, minus the random crap like Falling Joys and the Hummingbirds.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

Next for my listening: Alternative TV, Chris Knox, the Prisoners, Richard Hell, Shelley/Devoto, Thee Mighty Caesars, Tms Jefferson Slave Apartments, and Wreck Small Speakers on Expensive Stereos. WIth one or two exceptions I don't even know who any of these people are! Interesting. Amanda, I could YSI a bit for you if I can remember how it works. But I can't promise that it'll be representative of "post-punk" as some kind of whole...I only know what I know!

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

The Thomas Jefferson Slave Apartments are mentioned in the Columbus, Ohio, Chamber of Commerce brochure. Or were, in 1997.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

there's a gay sports bar called "CREW" literally right next door to the green mill. they have a decent menu.

(oh, and hi chicagoans... this is my first jump from ILM over to ILE.)

― grady (grady), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

TJSA...I have one of their CDs and it just sucks. Ohio's great and all, but don't waste your time. I mean, not unless you want to. "Bombs away! To the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!"

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

You guys are all totally cooler than me because I didn't listen to anything as a teenager. I'm just catching up at nearly 30 years old!

Jay, how in the ever-loving world do you know that? Or is that merely google at work?

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

I still haven't been to CREW! Jesse, take me. Take me now.

Laurel: I was in Columbus in 1997 for the American College Theatre Festival (Midwest region). The brochure was in the hotel room!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

There are a couple of TJSA songs I sorta like still, but mostly they sucked. Old GBV is way better.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

This is my new favorite indie band. And they don't even have my two favorite songs on that Myspace page.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and hello, grady!!

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

I'm so screwed. One of my clients just wrote me and said she needs her site up by tomorrow. I haven't even started. Can I begin and finish a site in one day? The suspense builds.

I have a real reason to go home now.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

Sure, just use the movie this afternoon to clear your head for the work to come.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

hi, jaymc... did your band ever play at the texas ballroom?

i lived there for a little over two years...

― grady (grady), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan-- had she warned you?? And I was going to ask for a CD but that will wait (obv)...so GO HOME already!

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Johnathan: I will take you to Crew. One day.

I need to attend yogart tomororwn alskdjf;lkjwith jenny.;ks

I'm on a non-drinking bingghe.a;
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― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Hey grady, I lived with someone (AbbyG) who was at the TX Ballroom before she lived here (and has now moved west).

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Here is one of my two favorite Research songs.

grady: no, we've never played the Texas Ballroom. I've never even been there, although it seems like a cool space. Are you still in Chicago?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

Rather a non-drunk binge. I had 2 beers last night and fell asleep.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

xp It's only $150. But that's more than I make in a day around this office.

Laurel -- you can still ask. Please do. It gives me purpose. Send me your address.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

eazy: i love abbyg. i'll never forgive myself for missing her farewell party.

jaymc: i live in uptown now.

and i'm supposed to be playing a party at texas tonite, but i'm not feeling so hot....

http://static.flickr.com/42/109824000_c8601f3608.jpg

― grady (grady), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

haha, rotten milk. that kid's something else.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Grady!

Man, I'm ignorant. What is the Texas Ballroom?

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

hi grady. welcome to the terrordome.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda OTM.

Does someone else want my extra Belle & Sebastian ticket? Kenan can't go now, obv.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

Division and Honore - that's a good band name!

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

haha, rotten milk. that kid's something else.

OTM!

hi super, hi milkmaid.

i think this page still gets semi-regular updates... they had some trouble with the city and police towards the end of the summer, so they've been laying kind of low for a few months... until tonite.

― grady (grady), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Someone please go see B&S with John, because I feel like the world's biggest dickhole. Someone cool, please.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Man, that sucks, Kenan.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

I want to see B&S real bad-like with John, by myself or in a hot air balloon but I CANNOT GO TONITE. Cryin.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

I hate B&S.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

John, post in the Craigslist personals and you will have a hot date for what New City called the 'very, very sold out' B&S show.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

No kidding.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

....or you could forget about b&s and come see Sharks up in Ro-Po tonight.

Just sayin'

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Evan, you guys have a show? Where at?

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

I would go if I didn't have a gig, even though I've never heard either band.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

I just called my friend Pat, whom some of you met at Inotnation last year -- he's gonna go.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

I remember Pat! He had a humiliating temp experience that involved wearing some sort of pack on his back? Coffee or something? He was nice.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

We're playing at No Exit. Opening for my friend's CD release party.

All-ages, though, which means we're on at 7.30pm. And only get 25 minutes. Yikes. Then again: second ever gig, so we'll take it.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Shit! I can't make it. Oh well. Kick some ass.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

We'll do our best.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, I don't remember that story, A. But I believe it. I'll ask him about it tonight. I can't believe I didn't think to ask him earlier, because he came with me the last time I saw B&S (four years ago).

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to Evan - I always see kids buzzing around that corner, there should be some cute girlies there, at least. I can't vouch that they're legal, but HONESTLY, WHO CARES?

[Note: I care.]

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

John! Heh!
http://chicago.craigslist.org/w4m/139993155.html

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Is it a free ticket? What time is the show? Where is it? I don't want it.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Ha.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Be a good samaritan, J.! Good karma!

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) Haha, oh man.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

I care, A. I am a law-abider.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

If you're a music dude, you know what I'm talking about.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Totally, dude.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

The reason I didn't bother with Craigslist is because I was given the tickets by friends (Jon and Sara) who had extras themselves, so it felt churlish to try to use the tickets to my advantage somehow.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

So just to be clear:

TONIGHT, I will be Chicago, playing at the Green Mill. I will probably be doing the usual band routine of drinking there afterwards and maybe sitting in at the jazz jam, then going to Lawrence's Fisheries afterwards and then crashing. Somewhere.

TOMORROW, I will also be playing at the Green Mill. I think the show starts earlier that night, like at 8:00. If anyone is coming for sure, let me know and I will try to get at least a couple of you on the list (they're always a little touchy there). I am also interested in all manner of hanging out before/after the show.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

XP: "churlish"!! Awesome.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

I am coming for sure. Tomorrow.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

"Churlish" is a great word. Usually used in a sentence like, "Would it be awfully churlish of me to point out [such-and-such]?"

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm playing a show tomorrow night (at a coffeehouse I've never been to) or I'd want to check out the Green Mill show.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

J., they of all people would understand if you brough a hot date from the Internet.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

Must be hot! Must love dogs! Must love hot dogs!

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Hot Doug's is "on vacation" this weekend. :( :( :(

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

I'm home now, but now I'm desperately hungry. I'm thinking: Pizza Hut. Lunch buffet. Salad. Pizza. Boiled eggs. Yes.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

John, re. Eric's post: I won't post those pics. OK, cool.

I know.

All right, I love you too.

OK.

Take care.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm... Jordan you are starting at 8 tomorrow? Hmmmm... HMMMMMMM.

Man, I hate law school. I long for the days when I don't have to AGONIZE over a decision to like, just sit on the train and look out the window instead of using that precious time to read something ANYTHING. Or when going to the fucking grocery store won't be a huge deal that I have to fucking PLAN FOR because I don't have the free time to just drop what I'm doing and run out for a gallon of milk.

WAH.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

We live the same life, Jennybunny. I agonized about whether to grocery shop (the only time I have to do it) or do administrative work for Trum@n...on a FRIDAY NITE!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

I always meant to ask you -- do you know/have that song "Saga of Jenny"? It's great.

"Who's Jenny? Never heard of Jenny. Her equal is hard to fiiiind..."

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

"Who's Jenny, she said, and smiled in her special way."

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.johnny-five.com/scrapbook/w-johnny.jpg

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

INPUT FOR JOHNNY FIVE

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

So that rally is getting underway out there. One of my stranger coworkers jsut came in and asked if I knew anything about a protest outside because she saw a lot of foreign people out there.

She is the same woman who said her main problem w/ Brokeback Mountain was that she couldn't imagine gay men so passionately in love.

Yeah, she's kind of an idiot.

But anway, that rally! It's RAGING! I really want to get out there and see if I can get into it with some Minutemen. Fucking shitbags.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

Word to that.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

Sometimes I have a hard time imagining straight men passionately in love. I'm not being a smart ass.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

Straight men passionately in love with each other or with women?

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

OMG there are Minutemen in Chicago? They're going to be killed (or perhaps just severely beaten)! The rally was on TV when I went through the lounge area a little while ago. Ashland and Lake was totally jam packed, and my friend who works near there on Washington says shit is nuts.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's an identification thing. Just not being able to identify with that emotion because, other than me of course, whom you love with a passion so fiery I have, on more than one occasion, had to stop you from putting out your own eyes in a fit of Greek tragedy-esque angst, you have never been passionately in love with a woman.

xpost: Yes, there are Minutemen in Chicago.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

I'm so glad shit is nuts! I just hope hope hope that everybody plays it cool and nobody gets arrested and the cops don't get all March 18, 2003 on people and start arresting everybody in sight and then people get deported for some bullshit arrest.

I hope the NLG is there legal observing! I wish I was there! ARG!!!!!

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, there are Minutemen in Chicago.

I was on a night ride with some dudes way on the south side. Little Village? Like 70something south and really west. Anyway, a Mexican fellow came up to us, asked what we were doing and, not satisfied with our answer, told us to leave, and quick, or else he'd call "a hundred mexicans to come beat your ass." We tried to play it cool, but he was sure that us "fuckers [were] Minutemen."

There are Minutemen in Chicago.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

TAL had a story on some Minutement recently. What a bunch of miserable, pathetic fuckers, and what a way to sully the name of history in the process.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.poshboy.com/Graphics/minutemen.jpg

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

"the minutemen are a collection of three bozos."

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.ondarock.it/pietremiliari/cover/double.jpg

...

oh, Kenan beat me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Is there a way in Excel to just switch your X and Y axes? Like make my rows columns and my columns rows?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

I don't agree, Jenny. I can understand loving a woman--women are curvy, interesting, long-haired, boob-a-licious, etc. What I have a hard time understanding is a straight man with feelings. I know in my mind that straight men have feelings, but I can't really grasp it fully. And I'm not talking just about stereotypical str8 guys who are tough and only want pussy, etc.

I guess it's partially because I know what dogs guys are, even though we are "allowed" more feelings. So I wonder how

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

You ought to meet me - I'm a goddamn walking tower of feelings with many flying buttresses of empathy.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

Also, now I have to listen to Post-Mersh. Thanks guys.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a goddamn walking tower of feelings with many flying buttresses of empathy.

That's hilarious. And precious.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan I will come to the show tomorrow. Please try and get me on the guest list if you can, I am fairly broke, though I'm about to go sell some cds to Reckless.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

1. How much does Reckless give you per disc? 2. Is it anything I might be interested in? 3. You see where this is going.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse's going to the rally! GO JESSE GO! Try not to look too Mexican, just in case they start arresting people!

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Dammit, I think I've already sold Reckless all my cds that they will want to buy.

xpost
Here's what I've dug up so far that they might want:
Edan - 'Beauty and the Beat'
Diplo - Hollertronix mix cd
Rocket From the Tombs - 'The Day the Earth Met the...'
Jonathan Richman & Modern Lovers - s/t (not the Modern Lovers s/t, later)
Pierre Henry - 'Messe Pour Les Temps Present'
Joy Division - 'Unknown Pleasures'

Then I have a bunch of crap that I tried to sell them a couple of times before that they don't want, like JSBX.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

Keep updating about the rally, pls.

Hmmm... Jordan you are starting at 8 tomorrow?

Tonight is 9 - 1 am, tomorrow is 8 - midnight. I will try to get you on the list, Nick.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't think I want any of that stuff.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff is there. I've asked him to send me some photos, so we'll see.

Jeff text messaged me. It said, "Loco."

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

I'm trying to be ruthless in culling stuff I never listen to.
New additions: Minutemen (sorry dudez), Melt Banana (shitty later album), Radiohead live album, Richard Hell & Voidoids (2 awesome songs, rest is lame), Nao Wave comp (good but too much overlap with Sexual Life of Savages comp, don't need both), Thrones.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Minutemen

Timely.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

OH MY GOD

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

I cannot tell you how many people are out there. It took me less than a minute to start crying.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

I voted for Canasta covers - Daft Punk and Queen.

OK, well I'm going to go try and get some $$$. Like I said, if anyone's up for doing something tonight, give me a call. Otherwise I'll just stay home and watch Leone movies.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, don't worry about putting leaf & I on the guest list. What's the cover?

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight Leaf & I are taking his sister & her fiance out for dinner b/c she got into the Iowa writers program. Then we're going to have some LONG AWAITED alone time.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

I feel delirious.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

Yay Iowa writers! Yay GETTIN' IT ON!

Amamda - what happened? Were the police being cool or were they being dickbags?

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

They were being cool. Nothing happened except tens of thousands of people streaming down the street shouting about freedom and rights and stuff! I felt like I was at the reflecting pool, except there was a giant orange thing instead of a reflecting pool.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

i was gone most of today . . . what is this rally?

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

There are a lot of businesses that had to close today in order to make this happen.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Got this photo from a random Flickr tag search:

http://static.flickr.com/51/110569071_c3cf73acdd.jpg

Holy. Fucking. Shit.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

O RALLY?

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Cover at tomorrow's show - 10 dollars (sorry)

Covers that C-Nasty should play: Bjork and J-Timberlake.

xpost, wow

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

That's incredible! Wow! I really wish I could be there.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

There are people from the top to the bottom of that picture. That's fucking amazing.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

That's what I'm sayin'! BANANAS.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

Where is this happening, btw? I haven't gone outside...

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

It's happening... outside.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Well, that makes me feel like I'm failing the cause by staying at work today instead of going.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

That's Jackson, looks like to me.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

Holy way to make my day with that photo!!! Wow. I have this sinking feeling that march wd be so, so much different in NYC.

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

The main rally is at Federal plaza. From the looks of things, there are people marching from everywhere to get to the main rally. Fucking incredible! I'm like beside myself here. GO PEOPLE GO!

xpost: GOD ME TOO. I also feel like this is one of those "Do you remember where you were when..." moments and I'll have to say, "Yes, I was at work, walking distance from the actual THING and I didn't go to it."

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff's got some photos up on his Flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeff/

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

I have photos! I'll upload to flickr sometime this weekend.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

I feel the need to hug someone right now. That's how emocionada I am.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

jaymc gets a funny point.

text from roommate: [rally is] Pretty kickass, Downtown is not functional

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I'm going to lunch now -- walking across the river to see if it's infiltrated the Clark/Lake area.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

not to rain on anyone's parade (or rally as the case may be) but what does a single rally change? i mean it's great that 40,000 people are voicing their collective opinion over a home rule but in american politics we all know one person with a check speaks louder than 40,000 working poor.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Well, maybe it will convince those Minutemen fuckers to crawl back inside whatever hole they emerged from.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

If nothing else, it will raise awareness among people who have no awareness of this issue, which is vital in changing people's minds and convincing them to stop being bigoted douchebags.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

to play devil's advocate, if these people have no awareness of the issue can it be assumed that they are bigoted?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

No, you're right to slap me on the wrist for calling people who simply don't know better "bigots"...but...wouldn't you agree that there are enough bigoted people participating in enough douchebaggery who may see something like this and think about what's actually going on and change their minds to warrant putting forth the effort to actually organize a rally and do it?

This seems different than an anti-war rally or something where people just shout about their opinions. People had something to lose by being there, and they were there anyway. That's pretty hardcore.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Greetings from Portlandland!

Text messages are like postcards! Except you have to split the cost of the stamp with the recipient.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, I totally get what you're saying. I do. I even agree with some of it. But, I still believe in The Rally. I believe in people coming together for a cause. Even if it comes down to one person signing one sheet of paper, I believe in constructive gathering. I think it raises awareness, builds community, and builds hope. I'm not even trying to be deliberatly cheesy. Rallys and protests give me hope, even if it is the smallest slice.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

douchebaggery
roffle

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

i'd like to believe in the rally but i don't see the impact a SINGLE rally would have. do something like this once a week, or hell, once a month for a year where a financial center of a city gets a spanner in the works and eventually big capital will have to listen.

but a one time rally? might as well be lollapalooza.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

You have a valid point. I just prefer to be optimistic.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

oh and by the way, the new mind controls lp has been blowing my balls off all week. 11 songs in 20 minutes every one a gem.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

Other positive affects of this rally:

Notifying legislators that 40,000 people care enough about an issue to take to the streets about it, and that if they value their governmental positions they should legislate accordingly.

Encouraging others who have grown complacent, to take to the streets and vocalize about issues that are important to them.

Speaking directly to those who are negatively impacted by immigration law in the US who aren't in Chicago and who feel alone and afraid and who can see that there are people who are fighting for them and who believe in the same things they do, thus encouraging them to be more active.

Speaking directly to people who aren't negatively impacted by immigration law directly but who live in areas where there are lots of bigots and minutemen and assholes who think they are totally alone in their views and can take comfort and draw strength from the numbers of people who believe in good things.

Just to name a few.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, I like how you made that segue into talking about your balls.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, I want that Pierre Henry album, unless I already have it.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

I went outside, and there are no signs of rally within the 1/4 sq mi bounded by

That probably will get fucked up in translation.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

(As I suspected.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

This might not be a single rally. Have you seen this? Have you looked out the window? Did you see that photo up there? IT IS MASSIVE. And if people perk up and listen, which I really honestly believe they will because it is just so big, this would encourage another rally. And another. And another.

To quote one of my least favorite union songs, drops of water turn a mill. A journey of a thousand steps begins with one. You can't drink a twelve-pack without havine one beer. A weekly rally has to start with the one rally. Etc., etc.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

I also think that for an issue such as this, a rally is perfect. No one needs to really identify themselves, which is exactly what could get them in trouble.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

I want to believe in the power of the rally, too, but all I've heard about the rally is via this thread. No one is outside. I need some external validation.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

See pic above. Call Jesse - he's in the middle of it now.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

"Chicago police say as many as 100,000 protestors are gathering outside the Chicago Federal Center to voice their concerns about a house bill that would tighten immigration laws. The massive demonstration has blocked many streets in the Loop."

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

WLS ABC News

100,000!

Xpost Jenny is quiiiick!

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

"Step by step" is one of my favorite union songs. My band has even covered it.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

NKOTB were agitators? I never knew.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like it much, but that's probably because it always comes out sounding like a dirge when you are singing it with a group, unless there are musically talented and excited people willing to take the lead, which I have yet to experience re: "Step by Step."

I would like to hear your band cover it, though! That would probably change my view of it completely!

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Personally, I am a huge fan of Solidarity Forever, except where they start getting into gender-based divisions of labor, but I just skip that verse.

Chris, are you home now?

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

This might not be a single rally.

but until i see different it is. the optimist in me wishes this to be true but the realist in me knows better. and yes, it is massive, but there are BUS LOADS of participants being trucked in. that takes coordination and logistics that don't happen spontaneously which leads me to believe this is a one off.

and further upthread, yes, eventually all my conversations come back to either punk rock, my balls, or both.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

I am home, and my cat is beyond excited to see me.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

Well, no, of course this isn't a spontaneous rally! That would be... insane. And impossible. And it might be a one off... I guess I just don't see your point, Otto. Would it be better than all 100,000 people sat home with fingers crossed, hoping that the McCain-Kennedy bill passed while the Sessenbrenner bill didn't? What's the appropriate response if bringing together the population of a small city to speak out against an issue is pointless?

xpost: Welcome home!

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Well, no, of course this isn't a spontaneous rally! That would be... insane. And impossible. And it might be a one off...

my point on this particular part being that if it was one of a larger series of rallies wouldn't someone have heard about the others by now? which brings me back to my orignial point; what do you think a single rally accomplishes? that was my original question. i already know what i think and was curious as to what others thought especially as some seemed to be getting almost breathless at the prospect of the rally.

i never said it would be better to sit at home with fingers crossed. i think it would be more effective to get $1 from the 100,000 participants and hire a lobbyist is my personal opinion but that's just me. i'm sure a march in the midwest will do some good too.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

...some seemed to be getting almost breathless at the prospect of the rally.
I'm an unrepentant cheeseball, I know it. I tried being cynical but it didn't suit me.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Skeptical didn't even fit very well. The only suit that fit me was Unrepentant Emotional Cheeseball.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

lobbyists cost a lot more than 100k.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

Unrepentant Emotional Cheeseball

sounds like a branch of the lutheran church.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

Maudlin Synod

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

and then there's maude(lin).

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

I'm breathless at the prospect of 100,000 caring enough about anything to get off their asses and shut down the loop. I'm extra breathless because it happens to be 100,000 who are on the right side of the issue. And I made a list of things I think a single rally accomplishes upthread.

Other good things about this particular rally:

Tension between different immigrant groups in Chicago has been and still is a big problem. This rally involves pretty much every immigrant group in the city. That's a huge leap forward for collective action.

Energizing the participants to keep fighting this fight, to possibly organize weekly rallies* to to take up collections to hire lobbyists.

Encouraging collective action - the idea of a lobbyist is good, but it also just means that the political change will only last as long as the lobbyist lasts or the money lasts. But 100,000 people, plus so many more who can't be at the rally but will here about it, are now tied into this cause. State ways can't change folkways. You can hire a lobbyist and get a law passed but if people don't like it, it won't be enforced or it will challenged until it's gone - this rally is a groundswell of change in folkways that can and do and will change state ways.

*It's kind of absurd to argue the realities of weekly rallies. That's not my point, either. My point is that one rally could make a difference, but it would have to be very large and get a lot of press and be timed to coincide with similar public opinion. Like, say, 100,000 immigrants and immigrant supports plastered all over the local and national news as our current "tough on immigration" president's approval ratings hit rock fucking bottom. For example.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, you are so OTM. Thank you for being so articulate. My love for you just grows & grows!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

It was just amazing to see so many people so passionate.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

So, having answered your question twice, Otto, I guess my return question is: Why are you so down on this rally? What harm does it do? Given that, as Evan said, $100k won't get you a good lobbyist and that lobbying isn't always the answer (see my points straight above), what else can people do who want to be heard?

xpost: If Jeff, the King of All Cynics, has that to say, all I can do is suggest that Otto go out and stand in the midst of the march and see if that helps him understand any.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny is the new Nabisco. Relentlessly OTM.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

FORGET THE RALLY:

THE TASTEE FREEZ BY MY HOUSE IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS, GUYS

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

BITCHIN'.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

nutsy where did i say i was "down on this rally"? my question was what OTHER PEOPLE THINK IT ACCOMPLISHES. you answered twice, thank you, it was enlightening.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

which brings me back to my orignial point; what do you think a single rally accomplishes? that was my original question. i already know what i think and was curious as to what others thought especially as some seemed to be getting almost breathless at the prospect of the rally.

here it is.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

otto, i don't think jenny is way off the mark in asking you why you're down on the rally. the way you've presented yourself on the issue has lead me to think that as well.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

huh. ok.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

You can call me Jenny! Or Nutsy if that's what you really want to call me.

Yeah, Otto, you came across as really trying hard to rain on some parades here and demand justification for the pleasure people were taking in this rally. My apologies if I misread your comments.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

no need to for aplogies, i just don't think a rally is the best way to affect change. seeing a bunch of likeminded people together never, EVER makes me want to go along with them. a rally by the minutemen would be just as ineffective.

i understand the passion behind the march, i understand the desire/need to make one's voice heard but that doesn't sway me from feeling that walking around downtown is going to alter the course of the home rule.

i know lobbyists cost more than $100,000 dollars but it's a political issue, you're going to need someone persuasive on your side. whether that side is right or wrong is immaterial, as the last 6 years have shown us time and again. if this rally can raise awareness i suppose that's a benefit but 5 weeks from now who, outside of those who are there right now, will remember it? what is the legacy of this thing?

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:35 (nineteen years ago)

oh, and i always use screen names. when i saw jaymc at the bottle a week or so ago i didn't know if i should call him john or jay or what so i settled with a non-commital "hey chief!"

i've only ever called eazy "eazy" and i wish kenan would stop changing his damn name because i still think of him as "paunchy stratego".

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

i just don't think a rally is the best way to affect change
I agree with you here -- but this is more than a 'group of likeminded people'.

This was a rally full of people who are actually affected by legislation and bigotry rather than a group of people who support them. It's not a bunch of hippie kids standing around reeking up the joint shouting to FREE MUMIA/TIBET/SOME OTHER ENTITY. These are the people actually affected by the legislation and have risked something in order to be there. It's different.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

GUYS. TASTEE FREEZ. WTF.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'M ALL OVER IT!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

except for the fact that ice cream gives me a stomach ache.

It's the perfect day for ice cream.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.chicagotribune.com/media/photo/2006-03/22365103.jpg

Looking south on Ashland this morning. Wish I had been there. Have a good weekend, everyone, perhaps we'll see you around.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

It's not a bunch of hippie kids standing around reeking up the joint shouting to FREE MUMIA/TIBET/SOME OTHER ENTITY. These are the people actually affected by the legislation and have risked something in order to be there. It's different.

see, i still don't think that matters. the antiwar rallies of the 60s and early 70s were made up of, primarily, kids who didn't want themselves or their loved ones shipped off to die. those kids were risking something too and their rallies didn't change anything.

and yes, i know the circumstances surrounding foreign affairs and domestic rule are vastly different but my general point is the same.

anyway, i'm just repeating myself at this point. to molest and old saw it's fairly obvious by now that i think marching against politics is as fruitful as dancing about architecture.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

But what do your balls think?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

kiwi-sized

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

I also think it's different because there are so damn many of participants. "Like-minded people" makes it sound like a book club or a meeting of the Audobon Society, not a massive group of people like we saw today. (It's still happening, by the way.)

And this can affect legislation! That was one of my points. If you are a congressperson or senator and you see that many people willing to march about an issue, and extrapolate that out to the number of people who would be there if they could, and then to the people who support the issue but don't want to march, and then out to the people who are sympathetic in general, then out to the people who are now sympathetic because of the march... well, you as a legislator had better get your ass in gear re: the issue in question. If it gets out that you voted against McCain-Kennedy or for the Sessenbrenner bill, your done.

What will the legacy be in three weeks? Who knows. We'll find out what the legacy is when folks vote on those bills. But if you only embark on activities that you are sure will be worthwhile in three weeks, you probably wouldn't get out of your house much. Sometimes, especially when you are talking about grass roots politics and social justice, you have to take risks. Sitting around wondering if you rally will matter in three weeks is in exercise in pointlessness. I mean, before you post about your balls again, ask yourself - what is the legecy? If it's not going to be remembered in three weeks, perhaps you had better conserve your hand strength.

For more about collective action and protests and the history of political, social, and cultural change in the US, see: Civil Rights Movement, Labor Movement, LGBST Rights Movement.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

my balls only think about one thing. and it's not politics.

it's that mind controls album.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

I think the risk is different enough for me to type this & say, "the risk is different."

schucks. jenny beat me to it & is better at saying it!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, before you post about your balls again, ask yourself - what is the legecy? If it's not going to be remembered in three weeks, perhaps you had better conserve your hand strength

the legacy of my balls is my beautiful 4 year old daughter and i'll thank you very much not to bring her into this.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

and i must have missed the part where anyone was claiming my balls were a major event. i'm not doubting it happened, i'm just saying i missed it.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

can we not talk about otto's balls? no offense to otto.

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

Bringin' down the house with jokes about balls
Askin' for support like we was Lou Rawls

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

in 22 minutes i'm taking my ball(s) and going home.

the blue line is going to be a MESS.

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

otto, do you read? please! the balls! i just can't!

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, do you really have a daughter?

You guys should vote for C4n4st4 cover songs, if you haven't already. (Jeff, Amanda, Jordan, and Nick have.) 30 people have voted so far. The leading song so far has 10 votes, there's a two-way tie for 7 votes, one with 6, and three with 5 -- so it could still go any way.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

where is the voting & what is the purpose?

― Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm BAA-AAACK!

That was a buncha Mexicans!

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

daerest kelsey

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

My afternoon: Went to Reckless, made $37. Went to Myopic, bought "How to Talk Dirty and Influence People" by Lenny Bruce. Went to Zen Noodles, ate some surprisingly delicious tofu satay and expectedly delicious pad siew. Browsed in Quimbys. Went to Filter, ran into Eric, drank coffee, read Reader, failed to come up with evening plans.

Tonight: Probably some combo of staying home and watching movies and playing video games or maybe going out to see a movie (Three Burials of MOEIJkjsd?) or maybe maybe going to practice space to start working on my long-delayed totally analog punk side project. No Exit might be fun but I am intimidated. Can you tell I'm caffeinated?

Do you guys know the song "Black Betty" by Ram Jam? I had never heard it until earlier this week when I heard it on JACK FM, then it was on "My Name is Earl" last night and then I saw on the Pickle Bar that Frank Kogan was talking about it on some ILM thread. So now I'm downloading it. Coincidences.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

HI CHRIS. Yay! You're home! Take off your pants, and jackit.

It looked like most of the loop was shut down. Everything South of Washington and everything East and West all the way South. ;ojhi;oihn

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, do you really have a daughter?
dear god no.

Went to Zen Noodles
is that at north and wood? if it's the place i'm thinking of they make this amazing cambodian chicken thing that's making me salivate right now.

the song "Black Betty" by Ram Jam
it was also recently banned by the university of new hampshire as warm up music for it's hockey team. and it's former boston bruin lyndon byers favorite song. what is about ice hockey and ram jam?

have a good weekend everyone, i've got some plans this weekend! whee!!!!!!!!

― otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

Zen Noodles is right next door to Quimby's. It is the best Asian/noodle place I've eaten at in my neighborhood, and it has quite an extensive menu. Recommended.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

I am now listening to Black Betty. The parts with vocals are pretty fun, but the endless guitar solo/instrumental interlude is pretty lame.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

I think the rally was important and effective in a number of ways, but perhaps most important as one very vocal and conspicuous link in a chain or drop of water in a river or whatever you will. NO, OF COURSE this 1 rally won't change things--ON ITS OWN.

If you are going to poo-poo a rally, then why not also an individual's vote or a letter to a congressman?

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like otto's problem is with the passion, not the message.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

No Exit might be fun but I am intimidated.

We are not intimidating.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

SELL ME ON YOUR BAND. TELL ME HOW AWESOME YOU ARE.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like otto's problem is with the passion, not the message.

Yeah, I doubt he's anti-immigration. Isn't he British?

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

I know that Black Betty song! Why is it banned from hockey warm up? All the guy says is "WHOA BLACK BETTY blah blrhmm blah hlkjasdkljf" over and over.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

Adam is British.

Sharks are, um. Pretty good! We've been playing, in my basement, since "Christmas break" (half the band is teachers) and we all love each other very much.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

We've got "pep."

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago)

DEAR C4N@ST4:

Please play Killer Queen and West End Girls. I don't care too much about West End Girls, but my continued support of your band rests entirely on the Killer Queen cover.

Love,
Jenny Bee

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

The best Pet Shop Boys song is a cover of Bobby Orlando's "I'm In Love With A Married Man". Their whole Disco 3 CD is pretty great.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

I picked different songs than Jenny.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, can we pick 'nasta cover songs from the CDs Nick sold today?

Edan - 'Beauty and the Beat'
Diplo - Hollertronix mix cd
Rocket From the Tombs - 'The Day the Earth Met the...'
Jonathan Richman & Modern Lovers - s/t (not the Modern Lovers s/t, later)
Pierre Henry - 'Messe Pour Les Temps Present'
Joy Division - 'Unknown Pleasures'

I would LOVE to hear 'nasta do "New Dawn Fades" or that Hippie Johnny song.

― Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

Night, kids!!

― Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I made a convincing sell to Nick.

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'M STRAIGHT.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

ROADRUNNER

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

TS: "Sister Ray" vs. "Radio On" vs. "Hallogallo" vs. "Jenny Ondioline"

(yes, I got the name of "Roadrunner" wrong)

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

No, those are on the Modern Lovers s/t, which I would NEVER sell. I sold the Jonathan Richman & the Modern Lovers s/t, which is ok but he's gotten pretty twee already.

No you didn't, John, whoever started that thread did. It's called "Roadrunner."

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, I started that thread.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

Roadrunner is a fucking great song. WOW.

xpost ICE COLD

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

I see.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

I did my duty and voted, but now I want to second the write in candidate of the Hippy Johnny song.

I want to go to No Exit, but I have this group of friends in town I'm supposed to meet. We will, however, be going out and around later so if/when I know where I will post so if/when anyone else wants to meet us, they will know where to look.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

Gib, I'm considering the Sharks show - the fact that it's early is a plus, because I can still come home and veg out after.

― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

Consider it! The band we're opening for (Rusty Pipes...friends from HS), are good, too!

Standard Disclaimer: 2nd show ever.

But: MOXIE!

― gbx (skowly), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

Mm, my god, the Cuban place nearby is the bestest food, and I went with my friend, who I tried to treat because he watched after my cat (who is desparately rubbing up against me, and will do this all week) but since his wife works there, they charged only for some of what I ate, so what should have been maybe a $35 tab (cheap even at that price!) came out to $12. So although I treated, it hardly counts.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

Only my internet isn't working, which is annoying. I am stealing from a neighbor.

Hi Jesse. I tried to take pix for you from the train. We'll see if they suck a lot or just a little.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:41 (nineteen years ago)

Grrr. I have been waiting forEVER for Barfly and Stop Making Sense to become available through Netflix. Can I borrow either of these from any Chicagoans? What's up, Notflix?

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

Here are just a few of the pics I took at today's rally in Chicago.

I hope I am not doing something wrong by posting all these pictures.

We were jampackedtogether.

http://static.flickr.com/55/110691815_c81ea4286f_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/48/110691799_c5e19b9137_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/54/110691770_434ec7de6e_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/19/110691744_6f7369edc7_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/56/110691723_7711b9236d_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/19/110691708_c14d668edd_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/49/110691665_af450ece17_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/54/110691631_6c30f41d9c_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/40/110691623_94012994fa_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/45/110691608_b1218f93b1_o.jpg

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

(Not to derail, but did you put Milwaukee photos up?)

(Train photos will be up much later this evening, I think, but the best was one train video.)

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:45 (nineteen years ago)

Not yet.

They are on my camera and these were on my phone. ~~I'll get to it!~~

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41894171796@N01/

good

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41894171796@N01/

~~being~~ on the

computer

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

I have Sotp making sense on DVD it's awesome.

I am drukn and hiccuping, how cliched

call me if you are bored, i'm not doing anything but watching westerns and drinking chilean liquor

I watched fistfull of dollas, next is a few dolars more

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

I want to go out somewher and do something exciting

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:21 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to a Latin-American guy's surprise party. Call me if you want to come. I'll only know one person there!! (Please come.)

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:23 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I have your number, and I hate Latin AMericans because I am RACISRT

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:24 (nineteen years ago)

I made u[ a cool bend guitar part

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:26 (nineteen years ago)

Wait. I guess I should ask if I can bring along my racist friend. If you want to go, it's the roommate of the guy I went on a couple of dates with. P@7r1X.
Foster and Western.

Word.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

is that code?

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yo Momma douches at midnite. Rockefeller, 1, 2, 3.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

263 8626

*cringe*

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

TGhere's somethign on PBS ith old time song sand kasey casem

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

JESSE I DON'T SPEAK CODE

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

yeh, so if you want to go then call me. fag.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

BFC HIBI?

That doesn't mean anything?

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

que?

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

or we can go for a beer after. what's johnathin livingstump doing tonight? and queefnan?

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Saturday, 11 March 2006 03:42 (nineteen years ago)

O RALLY?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 11 March 2006 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

Boring train photos, mostly:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/casuistry/sets/72057594079457466/

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 11 March 2006 05:14 (nineteen years ago)

Stop Making Sense to become available through Netflix.

I HAVE STOP MAKING SENSE ON NETFLIX RIGHT NOW SO SUCK IT.

Thanks for coming to the show NICK. F.

I am going to NICK's. BAR. ON MILWAUKEE.

I've never been there before. PLUS/MINUS

― gbx (skowly), Saturday, 11 March 2006 06:18 (nineteen years ago)

I've killed time at Nick's - they once had pinball there, I think.

Watched Collateral this eve - better than a coffee-table book.

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 11 March 2006 07:56 (nineteen years ago)

Is that... faint praise?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 11 March 2006 08:09 (nineteen years ago)

Nick's on Milwaukee gets a minus from me.

The Hungry Brain on Belmont gets a plus.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Saturday, 11 March 2006 08:09 (nineteen years ago)

Faint praise compared to a wow bar, but it's fine.

― Eazy (Eazy), Saturday, 11 March 2006 08:12 (nineteen years ago)

Hungry Brain is great!

I loved Collateral.

I just dropped Jesse and Pat off at Clark's on Clark. Hey-oooo.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 11 March 2006 08:13 (nineteen years ago)

Uh oh.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 11 March 2006 08:21 (nineteen years ago)

He's just "Pat" now?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 11 March 2006 08:22 (nineteen years ago)

They'll be fine.

Pat = friend of mine that we were hanging out with tonight.

Not P4+r!ck.

Pat's a bear, so he and Jesse have already decided that they're not attracted to each other.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 11 March 2006 08:24 (nineteen years ago)

Oh.

Thank goodness we're googling P@+rick. Now he'll never find out we're talking about him.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 11 March 2006 08:28 (nineteen years ago)

Even the name, Clark's on Clark, gave me the malingering depression vibes. And walking past it made me think, yes, going here would mean a quick plunge into the abyss.

But, then again, too much sunshine gives me the malingering depression vibes. And I'm sure CoC is "not so bad". So who am I to talk.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 11 March 2006 08:32 (nineteen years ago)

too much sunshine gives me the malingering depression vibes

well now that's just a weird thing to say

― gbx (skowly), Saturday, 11 March 2006 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

You've never seen me cower from the sun on the first sunshiney day in Spring. There's a reason I live in Portland, after all.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 11 March 2006 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

Sometimes never-ending sunshine depresses me, too. I like gray weather.

Clarks on Clark also depresses me.

Jesse and I have yoga at 11. He'd better not have been a complete douche bag re: staying out so late and being so drunk that he can't get his ass up for class.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 11 March 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Otto, wherever you are on weekends, check out this article. There's a lot of indication that this one rally will have quite an impact immigration reform. I draw your attention in particular to the suprise of the organizers, the presence of powerful law makers, the impact on area businesses and schools, and the comments of the executive director of National Immigration Forum.

True, as you state, the real proof will be in the legacy three weeks from now, or when the bills are up for vote, but I'm happy to revisit the matter then to see where this one rally has taken us. I predict that this is too powerful a statement to fade into obscurity. I'm not sure if this rally is on par with Woolworth's Sit-ins or the Stonewall Riots or the Flint Sit-Down Strike (all grass roots, collective events that changed laws and history in the US) but absolutely don't think this was rally didn't change anything.

And I didn't respond to this yesterday, but I will now:

You're wrong. You've misread your history.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 11 March 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Jenny-- I stayed out late and got drunk, so I can't go to yoga.

Hey Chris and Jenny-- I agree about the sunshine. I love the occasional dreaded sunny day, but I like thunderstorms and snowstorms best of all.

For some reason bright sunny days bug me. The coming of spring time has always been a rough period. I feel a sense of oncoming doom.

I just this instant looked at my Firefox forecast bar and saw that Sat and Sun are going to be T-stormalicious!

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Saturday, 11 March 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

BTW, this sort of scene makes me happy. By happy I mean sort of unhappy.

(From eastern Montana, from Chris' trip)

http://static.flickr.com/53/110731053_407bab0635.jpg?v=0

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Saturday, 11 March 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny- Re. last night--I got drunkish, but in my defense, I did get up at 9:45. But my neck really hurts and I did stay out late.

To clear up the events of last night: I went to Putrix' party, John and Pat came along late, we left and stopped in at Clarx on Klux for a quick one.

My neck hurts--the front part. The big muscles, those muscles like the ones that are overdeveloped on Henry Rollins. Wah.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Saturday, 11 March 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

sold out shows at the riv make parking a bitch by my gf's place.

party at texas last nite was fucking ridiculous.

does anyone on this board go to Mondo? its tonite at trevia.

― grady (grady), Saturday, 11 March 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

What is it? Tell us more.

(Although some of us are going to the Green Mill to see Jordan's band.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 11 March 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Things I did before noon today:
Took bath
Hung out
Went to Flo
Found out Flo wasn't open yet
Finished book I was reading in the park behind Flo
Went on short walk
Ate brunch at Flo
Took el to Harold Washington Library
Browsed
Checked out books
Toook el to Dusty Groove
Bought cd
Came home

Productive! I'm going to go hang out outside while it's nice.

― n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 11 March 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

All this after drinking alone all night and calling me on the phone in tears. Do you even remember that?

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Saturday, 11 March 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

I can't read "Flo" without thinking of "Aunt Flo". If you know what I mean.

The video of the part of the trip that Jesse posted the photo of is the video that came out the best. Just 3 minutes of those phone lines coming by, and then a burst of bare trees. And the sky doesn't seem to move at all.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 11 March 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Things I did before noon today: woke up, drank a glass of water.

― jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 11 March 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

Things I did before noon today:

drank water
played with kitty
showered
opened windows
discovered my refrigerator was still unplugged, threw away all meat products
went to deli and bought: pound of roast beef; loaf of polish rye; huge pork chop; delicious vegetable salad with all kinds of cabbage and corn and bell peppers and shit; jar of mustard so hot it's more like wasabi
came home, cooked pork chop, put it on plate with vegetable salad and whopping dollop of mustard
ate
was happy

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Saturday, 11 March 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

It's not even noon yet here, but the cat woke me up with cuddling demands (I complied), and I drank some cranberry juice. Now I think someone has sent me a text message. I should get up and find out. And then maybe shower. And hunt down some coffee.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 11 March 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I had coffee, too. I forgot that part.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Saturday, 11 March 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

I was really excited to wear my Chucks out today. It's a sure sign of spring. You can't wear thin canvas shoes in the winter. To do so would be madness.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Saturday, 11 March 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Before noon today I:

Woke up.
Fed the cats.
Fed myself.
Drank a cup of tea.
Formatted a list of questions for a mid-term interview project for Monday.
Brushed my teeth.
Sorted laundry.
Did two loads of laundy.
Listened to the funniest Wait, Wait Don't Tell Me I've heard in a long time while taking the train to yoga class.
One hour of yoga.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 11 March 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

Groceries sound so good! Have one more bike task to do and then I head to the supermarket. Happy Saturday, everyone.

― Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 11 March 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

Before noon I petted the cat
Kicked the cat in the butt for scratching the couch
Fixed breakfast: pierogies, sauteed onions, and 1 full lb of sugar snaps and 2 hot dogs
YIMed Pootrick (Paxtrix_75: I just took a shit. Ahhhh. That was so good it would be illegal in South Dakota)
Fed the bird

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Saturday, 11 March 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

YIM, bah.

I actually slept well last night! No more sliver of ex's bed, no more Amtrak coach seat! Whee.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 11 March 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

Chris, why did you skip over the very scenic parts of your trip, ie, MT and Idaho's mtns?

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Saturday, 11 March 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

Because it was night. I have some video footage of the mountains at night, but it is very dark. I should have taken pix on the way east, but somehow I failed to utterly.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 11 March 2006 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

you guys. hi. i think i met someone. but omg she has a bf. but she doesn't really like him! because he doesn't have a job! but i have a job!

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 12 March 2006 06:50 (nineteen years ago)

so ok i got her number. and then once i got home i called her. because i knew she didn't have her phone on her. so i called her. just so that she had my number, too. was that a bad move? i think it was a good move. just saying hi. just being a bro. oh, she was so cute.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 12 March 2006 06:53 (nineteen years ago)

is this the noise board?>

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 12 March 2006 06:56 (nineteen years ago)

Dude... she was SO cute. She was some kind of approcahing-critical cute. Nearly unsafe levels of cute.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Sunday, 12 March 2006 07:12 (nineteen years ago)

John, do you remember calling me? In tears? Telling me about this girl?

John, I think it was not detrimental, but by the same token, it was not productive. Be cool.

It's 2 am and I just heard from the street: "YOU'D BETTER SPREADED YOUR BEARDED TACO WIDE, AND I'M GOING TO GET DOWN THERE, AND I'M GOING TO LICK IT" in a young white guy's voice.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 07:56 (nineteen years ago)

I guess my point is, you should have left her a message saying what that guy outside was saying.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 07:57 (nineteen years ago)

This girl is too tiny and adorable for her taco to be "bearded." I'm convinced she is elven by race. Like Bjork. Bjork does not have pubic hair, either.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Sunday, 12 March 2006 07:59 (nineteen years ago)

test

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:12 (nineteen years ago)

success.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:12 (nineteen years ago)

I think I want to take the initiative and start a new thread....

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:13 (nineteen years ago)

Outside my house someone just said "it smells like a vagina out here." Usually my neighborhood smells like toast, but not tonight I guess.

I'm drunk.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:14 (nineteen years ago)

Do you live on Argyle Street? Why the vagina-related yelling tonight?

I looked out and the guy was on the phone, with a group of friends around. He repeated his demand.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:17 (nineteen years ago)

I'm thinking about getting drunk really quick and then going to bed. That's dumb, but I think it's what I'll do. I had 1 glass of wine after work and it was a real tease. I have a pint of Jim Beam sitting around.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:18 (nineteen years ago)

Fucking gross

http://news.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/06/sci_nat_enl_1141830109/img/1.jpg

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:23 (nineteen years ago)

Do you live on Argyle Street?

Nope, Belden Ave. These people were guests of our neighbors I think. They sounded pretty drunk themselves.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:29 (nineteen years ago)

hi do u skype?

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

Yeh, I think the bearded taco crew were not headed your way. They were going west on Argyle. But they might have hopped in a cab down Clark and stopped by your place.

I just drank a Jim and Diet Coke.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

John, you're drunk.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

Why do Chicago threads always start with album art?

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:32 (nineteen years ago)

why do chicago threads always come back to JOHN?

― rrrobyn (rrrobyn), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:33 (nineteen years ago)

because i'm the center of the universe, bitch.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:38 (nineteen years ago)

I know! They should be about ME. (Jesse)

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:38 (nineteen years ago)

Answer my question.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:38 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.kingsnake.com/roundup/pit.jpg

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

As you see, I need to clean my apartment.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:45 (nineteen years ago)

You're still up?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:52 (nineteen years ago)

Yes I'm still up! I usually go to bed at 2. It's only 3 right now.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

I am home from that damned house party. Finally.

The Chicago threads used to start with album art by the band Chicago. Since it could be "Part Seven" and then it could have "Chicago 7", because that is how Chicago named their albums. Yes.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 12 March 2006 08:58 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight I had John on the phone doing an impersonation of.....himself! (regarding zombies)

I am a little drunk. Not really though. I don't think I have it in me tonight. I started a new thread elsewhere.

Go, minions, make it popular.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still sober. And hungry. The problem with house parties thrown by people in their very early 20s is that they only have beer. Cheap beer. I had one less cheap beer that my friend brought and that was it, my face was already feeling itchy from it all. And I still felt very, very sober.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:07 (nineteen years ago)

Itchy?

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:08 (nineteen years ago)

what we are doing here is ilxIM

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

Beer allergies.

I could just IM you, I suppose.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:12 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago Shut Up:

ihttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Chicago-Loop-SEcorner.jpg

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

go to bed, homos

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:14 (nineteen years ago)

regarding aborted pic post: shit.

You should be on YIM, Chris. Who the hell does AIM these days?

Have you gone to my new thread yet to make it popular?

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

Why aren't you in bed?

Did you have a good time at PatRox party? He seems to think you didn't.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

I do iChat, silly.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:18 (nineteen years ago)

WTF is iChat? Why did you not make my computer work better while you were here? Come back!

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

Because you asked me to go to Dick's on Dick rather than asking me to fix your computer. iChat is a Mac thing, you wouldn't understand.

OK, I logged into my newly installed Yahoo! thing and I just got like 20 spam messages. This is great.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:21 (nineteen years ago)

are you talking to me? i had a fine time at the party, i was just soooo tired.

i am up b/c i was on skype.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

i am on YIM. but i am not telling you my screen name.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

TELL ME.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:23 (nineteen years ago)

jaymc325

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:24 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Jesse, tell me. Because I guess you posted it to the last thread, and I am lazy.

I am "plrbl".

xpost good boy.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:24 (nineteen years ago)

samsajk1

Can we have a YIM 3way?

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

Yep. We can. It's happening now.

Last night John had my tounge in his mouth.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

HI GUYS

― gbx (skowly), Sunday, 12 March 2006 10:36 (nineteen years ago)

They have all gone to bed. Or so they claim.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 12 March 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in bed right now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 12 March 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

Asleep in the hay.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 12 March 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

They claim all right.

JOHN IS STILL POSTING. ON THE NOIZE BOARD, NO LESS.

― gbx (skowly), Sunday, 12 March 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

XPOST LIKE WHAT

― gbx (skowly), Sunday, 12 March 2006 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

Guys, so many cigarettes. what the fuck.

― gbx (skowly), Sunday, 12 March 2006 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

lol yeah

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 12 March 2006 10:45 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I'm done.

― jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 12 March 2006 10:45 (nineteen years ago)

No one ever really goes to sleep, not when the internet is nearby.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 12 March 2006 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

WRONG

― gbx (skowly), Sunday, 12 March 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

I just want you all to know that I contributed greatly to John meeting that girl by calling him a puss until he went and talked to her. THATS WHAT FRIENDZ R 4

Mama Digdown's was rockin' it pretty hard last night. LOUD!

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 12 March 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

This is funny - I almost put the Green Mill on that 'suggestions of where to meet friendly girls in chicago' thread.

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 12 March 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

How was yr show, E-Z?

I am going to go get showered up and then eat some sunday brunch somewhere

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 12 March 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Blech. I'm going back to bed.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Sunday, 12 March 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

CHRIS CHRIS Dowload Adium. It's a multi-chat protocol ap that enables you to message using AIM, YIM, MS Messenger, and even ICQ all at once without having to use YIM's spammy messege ap. Also that way if you are chatting w/ more than one person using two different protocols, you can just do it all in one window.

http://www.adiumx.com/

Also? The icon is a duck. CUTE!

Jesse - the i thing for posting images doesn't work when the image is above a certain size.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 12 March 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

Had a good time, N. Felt like being in another city, playing at this coffeehouse in the no-man's-land between a few hospitals, Malcolm X College, and UIC - played between two very different guys - one in the Elvis Costello/Graham Parker mode and one in the Devendra mode.

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 12 March 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

I fell asleep on my trial ad book last night! Awesome.

John, cute though she may be, understand that attempting to date a woman who's already in a relationship, even with someone she claims not to like while she is drunk at a bar, is a recipe for serious drama if not outright disaster. I'm not saying don't call her or stop trying or whatever, but just be careful and guard your precious heart from harm. Just try not to like her too much until she actually dumps that no good rotten bum.

I'm about to cook up a mess of turkey sausages. FYI.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 12 March 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

I just ate about 16 pounds of breakfast. I don't know what I'm going to do with myself today, Sundays are so weird. Right now I'm working on liner notes for the FF album.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 12 March 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Mein Gott, these turkey sausages made a lot of grease. I did what any rational person would do in this situation - I fried an egg in it.

Happy.

Sundays are weird. Well, they aren't as weird for me since my weeks are so weird but Sunday blahs are a very uncomfortable state of being, I think.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 12 March 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, are you putting lots of clever in-jokes and random nonsense that the uninformed might take for clever in-jokes in your liner notes? Are you thanking Gott?

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 12 March 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

For some reason, frying an egg in breakfast meat grease is making me think of Kenan. It just seems like such a Kenan thing to take pleasure in.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 12 March 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Sundays are weirder now that I have to do some work on them. But no band practice today, so that opens up my schedule somewhat.

So far, the liner notes are very very dull. Basically just trying to remember everyone we have to thank.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 12 March 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

The other day I fried up some eggs in a pan I had used to make veggie burgers, but it was mainly because I was too lazy to clean it.

Damn it, I guess I should try and clean up the apartment a little before Sarah gets back.

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 12 March 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

I hope there will be a track-by-track dissection in the liner notes, like an old jazz LP or The Best of Leonard Cohen.

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 12 March 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

As in Cohen's note on 'Chelsea Hotel':
"I wrote this for an American singer who died a while ago. She used to stay at the Chelsea, too. I began it at a bar in a Polynesian restaurant in Miami in 1971 and finished it in Asmara, Ethiopia just before the throne was overturned. Ron Cornelius helped me with a chord change in an ealier version."

― Eazy (Eazy), Sunday, 12 March 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

"I wrote the lyrics for this song the day before we played it live for the first time because I realized I had never finished writing a second verse. They aren't really about anything, but they sure sound like they mean something, don't they? Don't they?"

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 12 March 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

i already have adiumx.

holy shit. i feel like some beat me up.

― gbx (skowly), Sunday, 12 March 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Did someone beat you up?

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 12 March 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, I'm sure you have John and a million other people to help you with this, but if you want me to look at your artwork for typos etc., I'm happy to. I just gave my "other" band (the one that played last night)'s new CD artwork (it "drops" in June, and I'm actually playing on it this time) a look-see, when I was finally able to tell my bandmate that the dude who the first song is named after spelt his name Evel Knievel, not "Evil".

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 12 March 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Now I am trying out this Adiumx. It seems much much better than that Yahoo! program.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 12 March 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

Holy Moly.

You are waiting for David from San Diego, in the orange shirt.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 12 March 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

Santa Anna.

Also Jeff says this has been around for awhile. I'm still stunned by it!

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 12 March 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

I set everything up so I could work offline while watching college basketball but it was a bad idea: ended up taking me twice as long as it normally does, sucking away most of my afternoon. Boooourns.

Hi Jenny, how's the studying going?

― n/a (Nick A.), Sunday, 12 March 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

Okay. Heath is here now and we're working on our opening statements for trial ad. WHOOOO.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

An online wordgame, for Julia: http://www.wordsandwich.com/

My best score so far is 11,500 or so.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 06:04 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, I inadvertently found a bar showing The Sops tonight. I think we have a beer date next weekend. Ladies welcome too.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 06:23 (nineteen years ago)

(And $3 Stella Artois too, and that's all I'll say in public.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 06:35 (nineteen years ago)

$3 Stella Artois

Are you trying to lure Sarah out?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 06:39 (nineteen years ago)

The more the merrier.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 06:47 (nineteen years ago)

heh. Yeah, it was good tonight. Better than I had hoped by a ways.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 06:51 (nineteen years ago)

Holy shit that ending! I will borrow and bribe to watch it next week. I will even go on a "beer date," though that sounds rather... I dunno... malty.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 06:53 (nineteen years ago)

I'm up to 8,059 on Word Sandwich.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 07:21 (nineteen years ago)

I wish it were more responsive to the return key.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 07:24 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight was weird all around. Why is St. Patrick's Day being celebrated a week early?

After a strange crowd at the restaurant I went to my favorite downtown dive (Rossi's) and saw some mild violence and police action. Besides a long string of really odd events and people, some extremely drunk guys came in, followed closely by cops (including the best-disguised plainclothes officer ever--he wore green beads). The pigs kicked the guys out. One guy came back and after a long dispute, the bartender grabbed him by the collar and his arm, wrestled him pushed him outside, slamming his arm in the door several times. Then he locked the deadbolt. Weird being locked in a bar.

Then on the train 2 Securitas officers came on with their muzzle German shephards. The dogs were lying down peacefully for a while and then suddenly there was a terrifying uproar as the 2 dogs tried to tear each other apart as the officers struggled with them.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

BTW, Rossi's is great. Courtney, Mark Maguire and I drank there for 7 hours one day. It is a dive, smack downtown, completely out of place (on State, near Grand). It has a screen door and a couple of small windows blocked by a frenzy of neon. It opens at 7 am.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 08:48 (nineteen years ago)

Morning shift, reporting for duty.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

You never need to think up your own album names/band names/screen names ever again. Everything you need is right here: Gold silver lotus root silk fries shrimp fuck

― The Milkmaid (benumbed hot vegetables) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Raw yang not included with the price of cowboy leg.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oy, just LOOK at all the fun I missed by not being on-line Saturday night. And it's not like I DID anything except go to bed before the witching hour. Stupid not-working computer.

Hoboken, why does it take 2 hrs to get home from you? I am soooooo tired.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

I have never wanted to go to work less.

Kill me.

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 13 March 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

With kindness?

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

no, no, me first! (xp)

this is not just a monday, but a monday with Ultra Turbo Suck capabilities. woooo.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 13 March 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

...or softly, with a song.

btw, chris, thanks for the link, yay wordgame distraction!

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 13 March 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

but omg she has a bf. but she doesn't really like him! because he doesn't have a job! but i have a job!

OMG WTF? YOU have a job? That's perfect! Clearly it was meant to be! Oh drunk John, so cute.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

So did she call back?

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

Why is St. Patrick's Day being celebrated a week early?

I was wondering the same thing all weekend.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Ditto. I understand celebrating holidays on the weekend instead of mid-week, but why not choose the Saturday CLOSER to the actual day?

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Are there more celebrations next weekend? One of my friends was planning on coming down, but it sounds like she may be disappointed.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Oh nevermind, she's going to Chicago on the day ITSELF.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago, I have at least one cavity. Maybe more. Or, a whole bunch of my fillings fell out. (Note: I only have three, maybe four cavities to begin with.) Eating hurts and my face feels weird and I'm in a constant state of freak out that I have holes in my teeth. I have a dentist apt. on March 24. The end.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus Jenny, go sooner than that. I mean it -- by the time your face feels swollen and throbby, it could get to root canal territory. Get thee to a dentist. If you need my dentist's #, I can email it to you -- he's in the board of trade building.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, Jenny. I need to go to the dentist, I'm convinced I have cavities (for the first time). Soon.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'm convinced I have cavities (for the first time)

Ditto. I'm still batting 1.000 on that front, but I'm sure that one of these days, SOMETHING's gonna put a hole in my teeth.

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda is right, Jenny -- go ASAP. I've had roots die off during times when I didn't have insurance and I am unbelievably lucky that none of the infections spread out of my jaw in those days but the pain was still mind-boggling. Whereas last summer I had one that started on a Friday afternoon and I thought I could make it through the weekend...but discovered early Sunday morning that I most assuredly COULD NOT, because half my face was inflamed and my eye was swelling shut. Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to the emergency room we go.

This almost certainly will not happen to you because you are not AN IDIOT who lets a paltry little fear of needles put her off regular dental care for a decade but please do get to the doc earlier if you can.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I'm not throbby and swollen, just kind of vaguely achy and really freaked out by a breach in my bodily integrity.

I'm not even afraid of needles. If anything, I'm afraid of health insurance bureaucracy and being slapped with a bill for something that our insurance doesn't cover.

I didn't get cavities until I was almost 30, at which point I kicked myself for not letting the dentist but that anti-cavity coating on my teeth when I was 16.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

HOLY SHIZNUT! It's windy. I really fear that my large bay window will blow in. I just opened it a crack so that it won't. My kitchen window just broke (not the glass, but the latch, so now the top part slides down) and it's now wide open. Thanks god it's a nice day, but I need to fix that shit.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

When did this start, Jenny?

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

scariest name for a dental place ever

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

My brand new HDTV? That I bought a month ago($$$)? I just turned it on and it is fried. It is making a weird smell.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

OKAY okay. OKAY! I moved the apointment up to Thursday.

Wow, that was some good full-press group pressure. Laurel on thread, Amanda via email, and Jesse via IM. ILX, you really do care!!!!

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, that motherfucker BETTER be under warranty!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, we DO care. We care a lot.
I may not make it out of the house/office/school much, but I care.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

1. I just went over 10,000 total messages on my Gmail (or actually 10,000 threads -- this doesn't count separate messages within each thread).

2. The river is still green. I walked across the LaSalle bridge just now on my way into work.

3. No, she didn't call back, and I wouldn't expect her to, frankly. The phone call served two purposes: 1) so that she has my number in case she ever wants to do anything about it, and 2) just to give her another hint that yes I'm interested, to convey my excitement, etc. As I've already said, it was a concluding gesture rather than an opening up gesture. I know Jesse still thinks I'm an idiot, but whatever.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

Peer pressure is getting clean teeth for Jenny and girls for John. Is there anything it can't do?!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

John- I don't think you're an idiot. I don't believe in blindly following the Rules of dating. As I think I said before, they're great as descriptive rules of what works, not prescriptive ones. It's all new to me anyway.

She already had enough "hint" that you were interested because you asked for her number and because you conversed with her at the bar. The point is that restraint is good and sometimes what seems like the appropriate thing in the heat of the moment is in fact overeagerness.

BUT, I don't think you drove her to not call back or anything; that was probably more the result of still being involved with the boyfriend she dislikes.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Things are looking bad TV-wise.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

I don't trust any tv with more inches than a pizza.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

I don't even know these Rules you keep mentioning. Every time you capitalize it, I think you're talking about the Neil Strauss book.

Fuck you.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, the Neil Strauss book is The Game. Never mind.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

I meant to say the "rules." Chris started with the caps.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Just to be bossy and nosy, I think the main problem w/ John's new girl is that she has a boyfriend. I mean, does that ever work out without unwarranted pain and drama for all parties?

No. No, it really doesn't!

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~pasupathi/309/rules.gif

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

I called Samsung's 800 # and a recording came on that said, this number has changed, please call this new national information number by dialing 10 15 15 800. Rates are $4.99 per call and will be billed to your local phone bill under "800 Nevada" WTF? Scam?

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

that sounds really fucked up.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Just to be bossy and nosy, I think the main problem w/ John's new girl is that she has a boyfriend. I mean, does that ever work out without unwarranted pain and drama for all parties?
No. No, it really doesn't!

Not true! It worked out for me!

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

It's like a practical joke, almost. I finally start meeting girls that ACTUALLY LIVE IN CHICAGO and then they're either flakes or they're taken. Oh well, guess I'll wait another four months until the next one comes along.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

That has to be a scam.

xpost

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

If she doesn't get rid of him immediately, well sure, there's a problem. But sometimes, when you're dating a loser and a winner shows up, the loser doesn't have time to ask what happened on his way out the door. If you know what I'm sayin'.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

I met lots of nice girls at the GM. Jaymc, it's too bad you didn't meet the roller derby girls from Friday night.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

If you're running a scam and trying to sound legit, wouldn't you try to come up with a better name than 800 Nevada? Come on people! How much less credibility can you have! Might as well call it 800-URASucker

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

I was at party with lots of roller-derby girls the weekend before! I wonder if it was any of the same girls. Half of them were lesbians, anyway.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Whoa. That seems really wrong! You want to be put in touch with a consumer protection attorney?

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, you're making me really curious now!

Jay, I will light a candle at the shrine for your "escape velocity"-cute girl success.

Hahah. Jenny, you are SO to the rescue! I love!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

I knew when I posted that blanket statement that someone would have evidence to the contrary!

Actually, ummm, come to think of it, when Jeff and I first became interested in each other he had a girlfriend and I had a boyfriend.

NEVER MIND JOHN. YOU CALL THAT GIRL!

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

No, I'm not calling her! I already did!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Maddie and I were both dating other people when we first met, although we didn't start dating until about a year later.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

xpost-- jenny yes! i called the AT&T operator and she said that that was a simple referral that Samsung had put in place, but I think she's wrong.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

No, no, call her. Again. I mean, look around you! Three married or almost married couples started dating when one or more of them were involved in other relationships. It's a sign!

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

If anyone (oh for instance, Kelsey, Sarah, Jocelyn, Chris, Jesse, Julia, Kenan, or Evan) hasn't voted for a C4n4st4 cover song, there is still time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

(I'm beseeching you because I think you all have good taste in music and trust your judgment. Right now there are four songs tied for second place, and we're only doing the top two.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Can I vote again?? I will, you know.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

No. ;-)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

Btw, I had a great time in Chicago this weekend. Both shows were good, but the energy level was off the hook on Saturday night. I went to Dusty Groove, Ashkenaz, and Lawrence's Fisheries (twice).

It was beautiful, the river was green, and I don't think I got to bed until 4:30 either night. I'm spent.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, your line of reasoning seems to indicate that in order to GET into a relationship, I need to BE IN a relationship. In which case I am sunky sunk sunk! When is it time to start collecting cats?

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

JOHN- I don't think it's necessarily bad that she's dating someone else. I was in a 5 year relationship with a guy who was just splitting up with his wife (and didn't get the actual divorce for another year). You never know. But at this point the ball is in her court.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with you about that.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

i was starting to type 'fleetwood mac' and instead of 'fleet' i was typing 'fellate' and oh my poor perverted sleepy mind. i woke up way too early this morning.

― Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I agree with that too. If she's not self-aware enough to realize that this is a sign that she needs to break up with her loser boyfriend and pursue an exciting new adventure with our Johnny, that's her loss.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Samsung is sending a repair tech to my house! This seems very anachronistic.

Jenny, http://www.consumeraffairs.com/cell_phones/ild_directory_assistance.html

As much as I hate you in most other ways, I'm glad you're here as my an adovcate and source of legal and consumer affairs knowledge.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

More fun info.
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:VtY_2oj8mxkJ:www.state.ia.us/government/com/util/_private/Orders/2006/0216_fcu0618.pdf+%2210+15+15+800%22+nevada&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2&client=firefox-a

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

I need a girlfriend.

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 13 March 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel, it's never too soon to start collecting cats. I did the majority of my cat collecting after Jeff and I started living together.

Cats make things better.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

John, call her a second time! Go for broke!

Because then she'll know that you're a man who can own up to his feelings about her, drunk or sober! It would be so cute!

It is what, after long deliberation, a Hugh Grant or Cusack character would do to propel the 'chance encounter' into full-fledged l'amour.

Don't rest on the laurels that liquid courage gave you. Call her back, for reals this time!

(And the boyfriend knows it's not working out - he'll thank you later, after he knows what's what.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

In the spirit of making doctor's appointments, I just made a gyn. appointment, too. Which reminds me of one time in the late 90s when I got health insurance for the first time in something like 8 years. I made a gyn. appointment that resulted in an abnormal pap smear. I also had my first dentist apointment in seven years coming up. My coworker asked me, "If it turns out you have cervical cancer and cavities, are you going to bother to get the cavities filled?"

I always thought that was really funny.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Cats do make things better, it's true. Also hairier and vomitier.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

The Cusack character type is only appealing in fiction. In real life they come across as deeply disturbed stalkers to be avoided.

My cat vomited at 7 am and I threw paper towels on it and went back to sleep. I am glad Jordan reminded me of that.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

Oh! So torn now. Grrr.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

I was kidding, mostly, John. I don't think you should call her again yet.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

It is what, after long deliberation, a Hugh Grant or Cusack character would do to propel the 'chance encounter' into full-fledged l'amour.
Eazy, are you serious about this? I can only speak for myself, but I find those characters genuinely, truly and comically unbearable. I wouldn't say this unless I thought that this was genuinely dangerous advice!

Some people (myself included) only like Lloyd Dobler in theory. She speaks the truth.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, what Jenny said, don't call yet.

A weekend of chaperoning multiple visitors and having my floor slept on has left me somewhat drained. Consequently, it's great to be back in the work FUNZONE.

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I'm, well, not quite joking but kind of being playful - I think certain men of my generation (and I'm not exempt from this) are so self-conscious about frat-boy traits like persistence, clarity of intent, aggressiveness, that we err far on the other side of the spectrum - so I'm playfully suggesting that John go a little further toward pro-active SOBER action.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

John: Flip a coin.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

I think John should give up and by a dildo.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Or just call Nick and have him question your masculinity some more.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

I think certain men of my generation (and I'm not exempt from this) are so self-conscious about frat-boy traits like persistence, clarity of intent, aggressiveness, that we err far on the other side of the spectrum

This is painfully otm.

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Every once in a while I really, really wish I had ever learned to arch just one eyebrow...like now, for instance. (XP to Jesse)

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

persistence, clarity of intent, aggressiveness
Those are frat-boy traits? Clarity is a very good thing. I call it straightforwardness. Confidence. That's appealing, isn't it? I think so.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

test:

http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/local_story_069125525.html

http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/49991

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

shit.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, the first link about the march. The cops estimated 300,000 people were there! Organizers say 500,000!

The 2nd is to MeFi.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

That's depressing. I asked friends in three different states and my news-obsessed parents whether they heard about the rally and none of them had. Boo.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

No, Eric's right. You don't want women to think you're totally louche, that you're one of those guys, so you're perhaps less assertive than the situation might dictate. Whereas the frat boys figure, "Well, what do I have to lose? If I piss her off, then good riddance, anyway, right?"

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

There is a middle ground between being a milquetoast and being an asshole. Simple confidence is very hot. Confidence does not mean being pushy or abrasive or overbearing though, a la frat boy.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

I guess Eric knows better what women like than an actual woman? What Jesse said.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

(xp to myself) (Which latter sort of approach seems antithetical to the Way Good People Go About Things, which is the only Way you've really ever known.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just being bitchy here, but seriously. Don't mistake confidence for assholery.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, neither Eric nor I said we know what actual women like. You're really misconstruing his point.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Simple confidence is very hot.

There is nothing simple about confidence.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just being bitchy, like I said. Just do whatever you feel is right -- for reals.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Don't mistake confidence for assholery

I mean, yeah, I think we all agree here. Eric's point is that for guys who are sensitive to not be seen as frat boys, it's hard to know sometimes where that line is, so we err on the side of caution. But the point is that that's crippling. No one's saying that women are to blame for this, though.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

louche
Pronunciation: 'lüsh
Function: adjective
Etymology: French, literally, cross-eyed, squint-eyed, from Latin luscus blind in one eye
: not reputable or decent

???

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

I think Eric meant that confidence and clarity of intent, etc, are often mistaken for fratty assholery, but only by the guys.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

I was so happy to be able to use that word!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

(Which latter sort of approach seems antithetical to the Way Good People Go About Things, which is the only Way you've really ever known.)

Haha, can you tell I've been reading David Foster Wallace?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

Frat boys don't figure. Anyway, John, you'll have to figure out what confident and purposeful mean for YOU, dearie. Everyone's threshold is different, obv.

Say, maybe...that the key to a romantic sucess is for both parties to share the same agenda..."obnoxious" would be trying to impose yr agenda on the other party, but confidence and certainty (certainty that you're on the right track, that taking this chance is the right thing to do, etc) might give one the skeelz to convince the other party to share your goals.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

how's that book, btw?

xpost

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

A second call, asking her out to something specific perhaps related to the conversation you had on Saturday, could be an act of confidence that is not pushy or abrasive.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

I like this new word I just learned on ILX, but is that how you meant it upthread? You don't want women to think you're indecent?

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

It can be hard to find the right side of that line, though. I'm more confident than I used to be, and my non-confidence was partly because I didn't want to be an asshole or "one of those guys".

xpost, everyone OTM

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Well, did I mention she's going to come to the C4n4st4 show on April 3? Or at least she said she was?

Jenny -- right, I don't want women to think I'm indecent, or some pussyhound playa.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

nothing simple about confidence?

How about "unaffected genuine confidence"?

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

XP to myself, still thinking: So I guess the point is that certainty can be contagious -- if you've got the confidence to undertake a mission to win over your gal, convince her that YOU are the one for her and vice versa, that such a chance must not be wasted(!!), then chart your course!

But I still think maybe you should wait a couple of days in case she calls you. :)

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

I can't give advice on this front, despite the advice I gave on this front. My basic attitude is that anybody who hits on me at a bar has something terribly wrong with them and I am, thus, unbelievably mean in response (meaning than any of you, except Jesse and Jeff, have ever seen me be, I'd wager).

So from my warped and baggage-laden perspective, if a man who hit on me in a bar called me twice after I'd attempted to burn his eyebrows off with my verbal flame thrower, I'd think he was either retarded, a psycho killer, or the perfect man for me because he saw through my tough outershell into my sweet, soft, candy insides.

I assume that all men (and women, for that matter) who make romantic overtones towards me are totally louche.

(yay!)

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

How about "unaffected genuine confidence"?

Well, that's sort of why I hate the dating game to begin with. I'd love to just be myself, but dating for some reason places all these requirements on me that I must take various "approaches" and "strategies" that don't seem like things I'd normally do. I've bitched about this plenty of times before.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

How about "unaffected genuine confidence"?

Then you don't talk to people on the internet about it. Obviously that's not the arena we're in.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know anyone with unaffected, genuine confidence.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

The more I think about it, the more it works! On one of our early dates, I said to my now-ex, "what am I doing with you?" and he said, "you're taking a chance." So it didn't work out -- it was still a good answer!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Like Kenan said though, Laurel, frat boys figure into it for us fellas. We know we don't want to be pushy and abrasive, or inconsiderate or misogynistic, but our insecurities can keep us away from appealing traits like confidence and clarity of intention (as in, it's OK to say tell a woman that she looks attractive, especially if you're dating her).

It's the same way that if a woman doesn't want to come across as desperate or needy (whatever the stereotype is there) that she may avoid those traits so much that she's shut herself off from, well, again, showing confidence and clarity of intention.

The worst result, per Jesse, is being a milquehole or asstoast.

Jenny - but what if the guy called with an idea for something really fun, original, and appropriate for you in the context of the (presumably fun) conversation you had on Saturday night?

I know if I was talking literature with a fun, attractive, drunk gal at the Green Mill, and then she called to see if I wanted to go see Mark Strand read at the U of C the next weekend, I would be excited.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

dating for some reason places all these requirements on me that I must take various "approaches" and "strategies" that don't seem like things I'd normally do

There are "strategies" that involve things you *would* normally do, though, and they don't take a lot of practicing in the mirror. For instance, don't be afraid to throw around references to things you like or know about because you think the girl might not get them. About half the time, they DO get the references, and then it seems like kismet. The other half of the time, you just sound smart, and that's points, too.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

And not that I've posted that, I'm horrified that it sounds like an excerpt from "The Game."

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

NOW that I've posted that

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

JAY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU INSIST ON THIS ARGUMENT. Sorry, I know you mean it honestly but I keep thinking someone will find the words to bridge this gap because I don't think it's nearly as substantial as I think you think it is. ARGH.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

The other half of the time, you just sound smart

*note: You actually have to be smart for this to work.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

What is Laurel on about?

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

PLAY ON PLAYA

― super yooper (waah christ dere eh pard?) (OutDatWay), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

asstoast I'll file that away into my personal vocabulary.

xpost to Jordan: I guess there is a paradox wrt confidence--you might be unsure and maybe scared inside, but it's important to believe in yourself and appear that you believe in yourself.

Confidence is something you practice, which makes it seem affected, but sometimes you can grasp it well enough to do it without affectation.

Also, what Kenan said about strategies.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Eazy - I would think that was incredible and amazing and very exciting and then I would assume he was a pedophile. But that's because I'm a wee bit neurotic in that arena.

Is that what is happening here? John is thinking of calling her to see if she wants to go see a reading after discussing literature with her? If so, then I completely change my answer and advocate calling her with that invitation. She'll either accept or she'll never call John back. Either way, he has much to gain and very little to lose.

I don't advocate calling her if he doesn't have a reason, though. But I think under your scenario, that would be pretty excellent.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

And I just learned the word "kismet." (Had seen it before but never sure of what it meant until I looked it up just now.)

I also don't know what Laurel is talking about. My whole anti-"game" complaint?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Yes.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

Either way, he has much to gain and very little to lose.

This is so frequently the case, but try telling yourself that at the time.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

My Brilliant Revelation!

I think that for many many people (including myself) dating and other human interactions are sort of mysterious--like I landed in a strange country and had to learn the customs. So the "Rules" and strategies and stuff are simple organic things that some people just do because they're interalized ways and they are socialized more completely.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

This passive "I don't want to offend you" business is exactly why I've always ended up being the asker-outer. I am too impatient to wait around until the spectre of misogyny fades enough for me to get asked out. Subsequent moves were made by the fella/guy/dude/boy/male personage, but 90% of the time I had to make the first call, suggest the first outing, etc. (Not that this is relevant anymore, but still...)

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

There was no talk about literature.

Topics broached:

1. The rally the previous day (because her job had a "presence" there) (but I was the one who brought it up, after finding out what she did)

2. How she just likes "music that other people like" (example given: "Manu Chao" -- to which I laughed and said "I don't think that the masses are swarming to Manu Chao")

3. My band (I think I've become quite good at slipping the band into casual conversation when I'm trying to impress someone); the fact that she went to high school with E.O. of the Sc0tl4nd Y4rd G0sp3l Ch0ir.

4. Her lousy no-good unemployed boyfriend

5. Where we went to college and what we majored in and where we went on study abroad.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

YOU DON'T KNOW HOW IT FEELS
TO BE ME

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

I can tell you that the girls I have talked to recently (numerous--at least 5, probably more) want to be asked out and would rather go dateless than make the first move. These are confident enlightened feminist women, but they are tired of men who act like boys and men who lack the confidence to ask a woman out on a proper date. Particular beef I've heard: men who suggest "hanging out" as opposed to a Date.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, Jenny, I agree with you (and I think meant to write it but deleted it) as far as that John should not call her a second time just to chat or declare his like or let her know that the ball is in her court if she wants to maybe ask him out to do something.

But - and here's where it's not a strategy in a Machievellian way - if he had an idea for something fun to do that's specific to what the two of them have in common, I think it wouldn't be a bad move to ask her out to that. Is that being forward or aggressive in a way that might turn her off? Maybe. Is it being asstoast because it's combining the forwardness of the asshole and the passive-agressiveness ('this isn't about getting into your drawers, it's about the Great Books') of the milquetoast? If he's a sexual predator, sure - or even if that's his only interest - but if he's interested in a gal for specific reasons that may lead to either a friendship grounded either in rapport or shared interested or to romancing, then it could be a good next step.

xpost - I have no date suggestions based on what you discussed.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think that the masses are swarming to Manu Chao

But... but... he's the king of the bongos! I thought everyone knew that.

I like a girl that talks about The Jesus Lizard.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Ah! I have a suggestion...

"Hi, this is John. We talked at the Green Mill on Saturday night. Listen, we were talking about our study abroad experiences, and I just happen to have these plan tickets to Rio and I thought of you, and wondered if you like to fly to Brazil for dinner next weekend?"

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't voted in the C******a song-off because I am really tempted to vote for a song which is (a) not a good song but (b) would be kind of interesting to hear what C******a would do with it but (c) it would still, and no offense is meant my this, probably not be that good because it's such an overblown and bad song.

And beyond that sort of intriguing "Hm, I wonder how that would go" -- not that I'd ever hear how it would go anyway! -- all the other songs I know are even steven, and the songs I don't know I wouldn't vote for.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

"Hanging out" means date, it's a euphemism! Or rather a placeholder for details to be determined later. Like "go out for coffee".

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Particular beef I've heard: men who suggest "hanging out" as opposed to a Date.

Oh fuck, are you kidding? Because I figure that's a much better way of going about it -- if it works out then it was a date, and if it doesn't work out then you just hung out with someone, and maybe you'll see them again sometime if you feel like just being friends. I wouldn't presume to ask someone out on a Date, even if I'm telling myself that's what it is.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Also, fuck dating. If there's something you want to do with someone because you think it would be fun to do with them, then ask them to do that specific thing. If you are sprawled sweaty across a bed at four a.m. with a leg cramp, then it was a date. Otherwise, who cares?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, if we had met in 1997 and you had asked me about music, odds are 2-1 that I would have mentioned The Jesus Lizzard.

xpost: John, takes Jesse's hetero dating advice with a grain of salt. I can guess three of those five vague, unnamed sources and, well, two of those three I would be loathe to consider representative of womankind.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Chris OTM.

I don't like Jesse.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Point well taken, but that's not the end of the story, either. If you keep saying interesting things to her, you don't have to buy her a ninety dollar steak on your first date. Coffee can be just as good. Trick is, make sure it's really coffee. Say to yourself, "I am going to buy this girl a cup of coffee, and I am going to chat her up somethin' awful, and yes, this is certainly a date." Make coffee special.

xpost

Oh fuck, are you kidding?

haha no he is not kidding.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

This goes back to the answer to 'are you serious?' as far as whether John should call her a second time. I think every man should try the above just once.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

I think I have been on one, maybe two dates ever. They suck.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

It's either hanging out or it's a date. Trying to have it both ways is annoying. If you're hanging out, then you may be good friends and you can attend each others' weddings. If it's a date, then it's a date. Not that that means you have to say, "Let us go on a date."

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Alternatively, and this is perhaps closer to what I do: Treat every time you "hang out" with every person as a "date".

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, also Jordan OTM.

Chris: okay, you don't have to vote, but I want to know what this song is that you don't like! I don't even like all of the songs nominated (another example of our band's tiresome democracy), so I won't be offended.

I like that Brazil is the example given because she actually studied in Argentina.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

I figure that's a much better way of going about it -- if it works out then it was a date, and if it doesn't work out then you just hung out with someone, and maybe you'll see them again sometime if you feel like just being friends. I wouldn't presume to ask someone out on a Date, even if I'm telling myself that's what it is.

I think we are getting nearer to the root of your problem. Pshychiatric advice, five cents. You owe us.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

This has been an informative discussion.

John: can I get a summary across my desk by EOD?

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

This goes back to the answer to 'are you serious?' as far as whether John should call her a second time. I think every man should try the above just once.

It is a bit spendy to try it too often. I'd wait until some reality show has their cameras following your life before doing that. They will probably even foot the bill.

xpost (the S&G song)

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

xpost-- I know of whence I speak. This goes for homo dating as well. On my recent dating venture I was wary of using the words "hanging out."

If I knew a guy was trying to ask me out on a date and suggested "hanging out" I would be disinclined to do so. But "How about we meet for coffee and cake?" is great. Simple, direct, confident.

I used to think dates sucked, but I've slightly changed my mind. They can suck, but they can also be fun if you just let things happen naturally.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

(That's one of the two songs I'd never even heard before this whole thing. I don't have an opinion on it because I only listened to it once, just to make sure I didn't flat-out hate it. If the results so far are any indication, though, lots of people love it.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, if we had met in 1997 and you had asked me about music, odds are 2-1 that I would have mentioned The Jesus Lizzard.

This is an intriguing alternate history, Jenny. Where does this conversation end?

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

But seriously - if the problem (as John says) is that to many guys of our generation it's instinctively boorish and presumptuous (and aggressive and frat-boy-ish) to even ask a gal out on a date (i.e., with romantic/sexual overtones), then it's certainly boorish and presumptuous to buy a Brazilophile two tickets to Rio.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Where does this conversation end?

Judging from my luck with men in the late 90s, either with you asking me for my roommate's number or with you stealing my rent money out of my sock drawer to buy herion with.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

Hahhahaha

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I just IMed this with Chris, but it bears repeating:

If I meet a guy I'm not interested in dating (not attractive, he is straight, he's transgendered) then asking them to "hang out" is the perfect way to make the intention to do stuff (but not date) clear.

It's annoying to try to disguise your intentions of dating as "hanging out."

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Yes.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

I'd way rather hear [Elizabeth? what was her name?] sing that S&G song, now that I think about it. Do we get to vote for that?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

I do like the idea of inviting someone to do something specific. That doesn't seem that off-the-wall to me.

When I was interested in S4r4h B3nd!x, I asked her if she wanted to come see an improv show with me, because she was involved in the theatre scene and had done improv at Oberlin.

When I was desperately trying to make something work with J3ss!ca C0m4$key, despite the utter lack of response on her part, I suggested we go see the Collaboraction festival thing -- you know, with the short plays. Because Eazy had a play in it. And he was our mutual friend.

I almost thought about asking the 19-year-old if she wanted to do one of those First Friday art walks.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

It's annoying to try to disguise your intentions of dating as "hanging out."

I mean, sure, it's easier for YOU to "just hang out," because it takes the pressure off, or so you tell yourself. But think about her. You're putting her in date limbo right up front. "Is this a date? Does he like me?" Don't fuck with a girl's head like that.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

Despite all that I've said above, I would prefer someone who wanted to date me to ask me out on a date and not just to hang out. Asking someone to "hang out" creates painful unsurety that could be easily resolved by labelling the activity as something with a known definition. So that if the woman does like you and you ask her to hang out, she then spends like weeks wondering if you really like her or if you're just wanting to be buddies.

I'm actually coming around to Jesse's way of thinking, but for different reasons. It's not about being appropriate manly or adult, but just about being honest with someone.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

(Chris, all I'll say is that if I wanted people to vote for S&G, I wouldn't have asked you guys. Ahem. You didn't hear me say that: carry on.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

XPOST KENAN OTfuckingM!!!

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Those are all good ideas. I wish more dudes had asked me out on dates. Although I came up with a lot of good ones myself. Still, it's not as fun if it's my idea.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

See also "I'm doing this specific thing, and thought you might be interested in it and that it would be fun if you came along. Are you interested?"

xpost (Although that honesty for me is often more like "I won't know whether I really wanted this to be an official "date" until about three years from now, so let's just do this thing and see what comes of it.")

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

...they are tired of men who act like boys and men who lack the confidence to ask a woman out on a proper date. Particular beef I've heard: men who suggest "hanging out" as opposed to a Date.

DING DING DING DINGDINGDINGDINGDING

"Hanging out" means date, it's a euphemism! Or rather a placeholder for details to be determined later. Like "go out for coffee"

Yeah, no. That got me in trouble a while ago -- to my dismay, it turns out that "let's hang out for coffee" does not, in fact, mean "i have any intention of asking you on a date or in fact getting involved with you at all."

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

But I am being honest! I do want to hang out! And then hopefully get to know her better to see if we want to start "dating"! I mean, Christ, I talked to the 19-year-old for 10 minutes at the fucking Apple Store -- what could be a better next step than "hanging out"? I mean, you're right, yes, in my own head, I was calling it a date, but. Look, why else would a stranger have asked for your e-mail address if he wasn't "interested," at least on some level? Am I being presumptuous?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Cases in point:

Guy keeps asking me to "hang out" and we keep hanging out for like a month, until it comes down to the "put up or shut up" part of the program and he tells me that he once had his heart broken by a dancer and he's therefore really only interested in women who are dancers, or are just built like them. (ie not chubby ole me.)

Guy asks me out to dinner and to the horse races (at Delaware Park). Sounds like a date, doesn't it? No, it's not. After dinner, he tells me that he really admires me and wants my advice about a girl that he's had a crush on for many years and is finally ready to pursue.

Had either of these total wastes of oxygen thought to use the word "date," or avoid the words "hang out," or just being one little iota of honest, I wouldn't have gotten to the point where I believe anyone who hits on me is clearly mentally damaged and not worth my time.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

I second the Kenan OTM.

You can't baby step your way to a or a relationship.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Those men are idiots, though.

I still don't like Jesse.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently a "date" is when you are thinking "there is some chance that I would want this to be a date".

(I have now voted, and not for S&G.)

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Summary: I would rather be asked on a date and then have the guy decide it didn't work out and not pursue it than be asked to hang out and then be hung out to dry while waiting to see if me and this guy were ever going to date.

Dig?

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry if I wasn't being clear earlier but what Jenny and Kenan said is PRECISELY what I'm getting at!

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand why all of my friends like zombie movies.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, if you asked me on a date, I would say yes. Jenny & Kenan also have their collective finger on the pulse.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, Kenan, Jesse: Reunited and it feels so good.

I'd like to write in "Reunited" by Peaches and Herb as my Canasta cover request. God I love that song.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, Kenan, Jenny, Laurel: An unstoppable force.

I meant to say Jenny up there, not Jesse.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

I couldn't do the hanging out with a person I don't know very well. I don't hang out well with people I do know fairly well either.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

I agree. Although I very rarely was ever asked out.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Yes! And also, while we're at it, you know what is reeeealy annoying (and I've done it too) is being a weasel about NOT dating someone. If you go out with someone and you really don't feel it,don't try to get out by going on another date or saying, "Oh yeh! We can hang out again!" Just be honest!

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, but you could do a "date" with someone you don't know very well? This seems very odd to me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

(That was to Jeff.)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

OH.MY.GOD.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

A date is a way to get to know someone.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Well, anyway, I feel much better about my lack of a standard romantic life now.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

YES BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU MIGHT LIKE THEM "THAT WAY". So it is a date. XP. To John.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

My parents divorced when I was 12, stayed in touch frequently through my teens and twenties (as "friends"? as "parents"? who knows), and then remarried when I was 30. There's a sweet side to this, and a fucked-up side to this - but I know for sure that it led to this thinking I have that "well whatever we have, if it's based on a mutual connection or shared interests, can be redefined".

The trouble with a flat-out date early on, from this kind of thinking, is the suggestion that the interest is bianary - it's either going to lead to dating someone or not being interested in them other than that.

But, again, that's why guys like me need to practice the ticket to Rio once in a while! And get out of that ambiguity! K.'s right - the ambiguity/ambivalence/indirectness/dishonesty does fuck with gals' heads, and I've been a terrible practicioner of it at times.

xpost - I vote for "Reunited" as well, as a write-in. 'nasta would kick ass with that one - speaking of emotional directness and all.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

My current conversation on YIM. (Posted with full disclosure to the other party)

me: my cum tastes weird
me: j/k
plrbl: does it?
plrbl: do you drink a lot of OJ?
me: it tastes of book leather and dried fruits with a hint of chocolate on the finish
me: i'm apparently ejaculating a nice cabernet
plrbl: if your cum is red, that is a problem.
me: heh heh
me: i dated a guy who came blood once.
me: he had a messed up seminal duct
me: semenal?
me: seminole?
me: semen hole?

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff and I knew each other very well before we ever hung out. Thank you internet, for bringing the socially anxious and the bitter and jaded together in a gentle, careful, and ultimately successful way!

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, you said "to Jeff". Sorry about the outburst, I thought you were asking in a general way. Which is exactly what you were trying to forestall by pointing out that it was addressed to Jeff, but you know me, flying off the handle is what I do! Apparently! Also I am super duper cranky about dating things these days!!

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

No, I know that a date is a way to get to know someone. What I don't understand is why it is an supposedly easier thing to do than "hanging out." To me, it feels more intimidating, because of all the etiquette and the implications and everything. But then again, in the end, I think it's all the same ball of wax, so what do I know.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

I wouldn't have gotten to the point where I believe anyone who hits on me is clearly mentally damaged and not worth my time.

Anyone who hits on you *is* clearly damaged, but maybe in a way that suits you. It's like Jeff's theory of Eternal Incompatibility. Or my theory of Complimentary Angles. If someone else's neuroses fit but do not exactly equal yours, you have a good ground for a relationship.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

It's a leap of faith. The bridge of hanging out is a mirage.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

My two votes for 'nasta covers are:
Hippy Johnny (write in)
Reunited (write in)

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

The trouble with a flat-out date early on, from this kind of thinking, is the suggestion that the interest is binary - it's either going to lead to dating someone or not being interested in them other than that.

DING DING DING

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't "Hippy Johnny" called "I'm Straight"? I've never heard "Reunited," at least not to my knowledge.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

No, I know that a date is a way to get to know someone. What I don't understand is why it is an supposedly easier thing to do than "hanging out."

It's not, but tough shit. Life isn't easy. You want a relationship? You've got to grab your balls and jump.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

No. I went on 3 dates with Patrick before we called it off in the middle of our last date. But I really like him and we're good friends now in a very short period of time.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, Jenny, I know that. Jeff is the one who said (or implied) that it was easier than hanging out. And that was the part that baffled me, because I agree with you.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I've never actually been on a real date, so I guess I wouldn't know how to do that either. I'm just uncomfortable around all sorts of people.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Re the whole binary thing: I have enough friends. Or rather, if I want any more I will go out and make them. I could, however, really use a regular "thing" so the line for volunteers starts right outside in the hall thanks very much.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not actually sure what we're arguing about anymore. Semantics?

John, what, if anything, are you inviting this potential ladyfriend to do with you?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

I don't want women to think that I'm only interested in them for the purpose of dating them. This seems vulgar to me. Perhaps because one of the reasons guys are initially attracted to women and want to "date" them is because they really want to sleep with them.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

In this situation, the etiquette and the implications ARE everything. You can be all loosey-goosey with social conventions with your friends, because they're your friends, but you can't be that way with people you don't know. For two reasons. 1) You don't know them, and social conventions are all you have to fall back on in your relationships with them at this point, and 2) their perceptions of social conventions in the long term might be very different from yours.

Not everyone is a hippie, John. But that doesn't mean you're not compatible. For example, I'm not a hippie, but you like me.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

How about you just say that you are going out with friends and see if she wants to join you? Then as the night goes on you can move more towards person to person communication. Except don't invite me or Jesse, because we're assholes.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

I don't want women to think that I'm only interested in them for the purpose of dating them. This seems vulgar to me.

What? Vulgar? I don't think women think that dating is vulgar, unless they're Momrmons or some weird shit like that.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

I like hippies, even though I'm not one myself. But if I sense that a girl has hippie-ish tendencies, I'm a bit more interested.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

... is because they really want to sleep with them.

Stop saying that like it's a bad thing. You know what's hotter than pretty much anything? Knowing that someone wants to sleep with me because of who and what I am (ie not just because I am a female of the species).

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

I don't want women to think that I'm only interested in them for the purpose of dating them. This seems vulgar to me.

I don't mean to speak for all my sisters, but I don't think that women generally believe a desire to date is vulgar. A desire to have a one-off shag in the back of a cab on the way home from the date and never call again? Vulgar. A meeting intended to determine romantic capability with the possibility of further dates and maybe sex? Totally not vulgar.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

John, you are guilty of a benign but destructive form of misogyny. You think girls are significantly different from you. They're not.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

I am told that once upon a time you'd encounter a person several times, perhaps at church or on a Usenet newsgroup, and you'd have a sense of each other before asking someone to an official "date", thereby making certain intentions clear. Alas, Jaoyhmnc is unlikely to see this woman ever again unless he asks her on a date. This changes the meaning of a date significantly.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

But the significant difference is that many of them get hit on more often than we do, and guys like me and John are hard-wired not to contribute to vulgarity of being another guy hitting on the gal.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to Jeff--

going out with a group of friends is really not good for a first date. that's hanging out with even less guts.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny and Laurel OTM. You think we get hit on more than we actually do.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

I have no guts though, so that may be my only option.

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

going out with a group of friends is really not good for a first date. that's hanging out with even less guts.

I have a 50s industrial education film that disagrees strongly with you!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

I think some men have a warped view of feminism's influence on dating and they think that women don't want to be seen as romantic or sex objects. I daresay EVERYONE wants to be seen that way, but not exclusively that way.

I agree with Laurel that people want to know that other people want to have sex with them because of their individual qualities, not beause they posses the requisite hole(s).

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

John, you are guilty of a benign but destructive form of misogyny. You think girls are significantly different from you. They're not.

This is half true and half not. I mean, I think I know what you're getting at -- but most of my best friends throughout my life have been girls, so it's not like I see them as some alien species.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

So... you wouldn't be friends with an alien species? XENOPHOBE!

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

xpost chris

maybe if you're 15 years old it's fine.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff, you don't need that option what with being married to me and all. Just a reminder.

Meh, if a woman is so turned off by being asked out on a date, or finds being asked on an honest to god, respectful date it's probably not the kind of woman you want to go out on a date with anyway. Chris has some good points, too, about John's date request being the only way to guarantee seeing her again.

John, go out and find the one that you love and who loves you. The one that you love and who loves you! Doo do dooo doooooo....

xpost: Jesse, OTM. It feels good to be desired, especially as an individual and not as a projection or a construct.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

guys like me and John are hard-wired not to contribute to vulgarity of being another guy hitting on the gal

You're not hardwired to do anything except sleep, eat, and make babies. The rest is up for discussion. Even the "babies" part is up for discussion. Hardwired my ass. You have the biggest, most complicated brain EVER.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

i really hope he does find the one that he loves and who loves him.
Sent at 12:51 pm on Monday
me: he'll probably go out to a club and dance on his own and leave on his own and go home and cry and want to die
Jen: hahahaha
post that!

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― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'm aware of my married status!

― Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

Insert the word "vulgar" in my first paragraph between "date" and "it's." Throw in a comma, too. kthxbi.

― Nutsy the Squirrel (pullapartgirl), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

about John's date request being the only way to guarantee seeing her again

Before April 3, that is. Unless you think that was all smoke and mirrors and she's not actually going to come to the show.

Sadly, I don't trust women (and by women I don't mean women in general but potential partners) as much as I used to.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

CRYING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CLUB

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

Hardwired since the age of 5 or 6, I mean, which maybe goes against the meaning of hardwired.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

Also, are we all collectively forgetting that K. has a BOYFRIEND?! HELLO!

Yes, her name is K.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Wired, maybe, but not hardwired.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Which doesn't mean that I can't be interested, but I don't think I should go tossing around words like "date" with her.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

"Why don't you dump that fool and come to First Friday with me, Johnny C.?"

Practice that in front of the mirror.

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

This is half true and half not. I mean, I think I know what you're getting at -- but most of my best friends throughout my life have been girls, so it's not like I see them as some alien species.

But you do see girls that YOU WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH as an alien species.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

I HAD SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH ALL OF THOSE GIRLS. THAT'S HOW WE BECAME BEST FRIENDS.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

The "vulgarity" issue is what I'm talking about when I refer to misinterpreted feminism. I can't speak for women so much, but gay men certainly are tired of being hit on by asstards and would LOVE to be hit on (or paid attention to) by guys who have a fucking brain. But too many guys with brains (EZ, John) are afraid of being seen as jerks simply because they have the vulgar tendency of being attracted to other people. BY NOT TRYING TO 'HIT ON' WOMEN, YOU ARE DOING THEM A DISSERVICE!

xpost- there is no need to call anything a date.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, I don't remember the April 3rd part. If you're going to see her again on April 3rd then what is all this tsuris about?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

[furiously looking up tsuris]

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

Two things:

(a) laurel/et al are basically otm w/r/t just about everything
(b) i love that crying in the club thread

― gbx (skowly), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

I HAD SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH ALL OF THOSE GIRLS. THAT'S HOW WE BECAME BEST FRIENDS.

Weird, but ok. If that's the case, then my previous point holds. You're doing it backwards. It seems like a small point of semantics, but calling it a "date" could rearrange your entire model of relationships.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

I'm heading out for the afternoon, but I'll just keep in mind "women want to be hit on" as a ride the bus, the El, crowded elevators, etc...

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

as a/as I...

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

I HAD SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH ALL OF THOSE GIRLS. THAT'S HOW WE BECAME BEST FRIENDS.

I give up. I love you, John, but I give up.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

"women want to be hit on"

Yes. And in as creepy a way as possible. Please approach women on the bus.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

Let me clarify two things:

1. There are really not that many people that I find myself attracted to, on a general basis. I'm not the kind of guy that gets crushes on everyone he meets but is too much of a pussy to do anything about it. I've gotten to the point in my life where, when someone interests me, I do try to do something about it. Maybe I don't go far enough, who knows. But it happens so rarely that I know that I'm a fool if I don't take advantage of the situation.

2. There's been this implicit assumption throughout this discussion that being more aggressive in hitting on women is just a switch that can be thrown -- like once you come to the realization that you can do it without being an asshole that suddenly the world opens up for you. But in a lot of ways, I don't even know how to perform this more aggressive style of pursuit. I still wait for signals from the other party that may never actually come. Hence M3g W@t3rm@n and I sitting extremely close to one another on a friend's couch in Minneapolis and nothing ever happening -- even though after the fact I kept wondering if maybe I had just waited too long, and then by 4:30 AM she couldn't justify staying up any longer.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

Tsuris is one of my favorite words, but I always forget that no one else knows what it means.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

(That's the joke of it, K.)

― Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

(I think I used it while walking around with Jesse at some point, even, and had to explain it then.)

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

I mispronounced "tuchis" in front of a Jewish girl last weekend.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

Did she tell you to get the shpilkes out?

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

John--see you've already waited too long/and all your hope is gone. just shut your mouth/ how can we say/ you go about things the wrong way?

"Hit on" is a bad term. Approached, entreatied.

You have to just do it and be willing to hate yourself for being a bumbling idiot for a while b/c it can happen.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

like once you come to the realization that you can do it without being an asshole that suddenly the world opens up for you. But in a lot of ways, I don't even know how to perform this more aggressive style of pursuit. I still wait for signals from the other party that may never actually come.

I understand that, and believe me, it took me a lot of years to get past it. And I can't tell you how to get past it. I can't. There's no therapy for No Girlfriend. Except for some basic things, which I think we're all getting at -- respect yourself. Respect her. Talk to her. Talk to her about things that interest you. Have some things that interest you, other than the beer you're both drinking. Relax. You're not an asshole to her right now... remember that. You have plenty of time to be an asshole later.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

It's bad enough when your life reminds someone of Smiths lyrics, but when it's all from the same song...

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, but I am human and I need to be loved, just like everybody else does.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

Respect her. Talk to her. Talk to her about things that interest you. Have some things that interest you, other than the beer you're both drinking. Relax.

Right! Hanging out!

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, Christ Almighty -- if that's all it takes, Kenan, then I'm a GENIUS at dating. You guys know me -- I'm a very affable guy, comfortable in a variety of social settings. But that's really not ALL there is to it, or else I'd be getting laid left and right.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

post "hanging out"

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― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) You act like I'm some meek dude who freaks out at the very prospect of talking to a real, live woman.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

Right! Hanging out!

what i meant was, xpost to this:

wO34UTAS;OLVND;ASDNF;KLW!!!!!!!!!!

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

hanging out

Ok, fine. You win. But stop calling it that.

That is all it takes, and you are not a genius at dating. Obviously not. You don't even go on "dates."

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

We're going backwards.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

True, that (backwards).

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Since when do you want to get laid, J.? It always seems like you want to "have been laid".

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

You guys know me -- I'm a very affable guy, comfortable in a variety of social settings.

No one is trying to say you're not totally lovable and extremely worthy of all kinds of social interaction. (Though if I were you, I'd dance less.)

(*note: this is the post that marks the end of John and I's friendship.)

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

I like what Chris is getting at.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Chris, I don't know where you get that impression. One of my greatest fears is that I'll die and only have slept with two women in my life.

That is all it takes, and you are not a genius at dating. Obviously not.

So can you explain to me why I'm not a genius at dating, if I'm supposedly good at everything dating is all about?

I don't know what the fuck the "dancing less" line means. Were you at the Green Mill the other night? Were you? Because the fact that I was dancing is the reason why I even met K. in the first place. The first thing she said to me was how she was glad I got up to dance because they'd all been looking at our table and hoping that we'd get up and join them. Plus, if I have to change my dancing habits just so I can meet women, then fuck that. If they don't like it, then they're not worthy of me anyway. I'm marginally okay with dating women who don't like to dance themselves (hello, most recent girlfriend) -- but I'll be damned if I let them stop me.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

One of my greatest fears is that I'll die and only have slept with two women in my life.

Oh wait, this is your point.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

. Plus, if I have to change my dancing habits just so I can meet women, then fuck that. If they don't like it, then they're not worthy of me anyway. I'm marginally okay with dating women who don't like to dance themselves (hello, most recent girlfriend) -- but I'll be damned if I let them stop me.
Priceless! Most adorable thing said all day.

― The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

It's bad enough when your life reminds someone of Smiths lyrics, but when it's all from the same song...

I have a lot of Smiths lyrics running through my head right now, but damned if I can narrow them down. Do tell.

If they don't like it, then they're not worthy of me anyway.

You should run with that. Seriously.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

most adorable and most positive thing too!

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus. I feel ilke we just had a theraputic breakthrough.

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

I don't. I feel like it's the same thing I've been saying the entire time.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

If they don't like it, then they're not worthy of me anyway.

Yes, this is the place where my head lives, too. Except I am sort of trying to figure out how NOT to hold it against people if they don't want to be wit' me. It's an uphill battle.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

My point is more along the lines of... how remarkably honest and open you are about your past sexual experiences (and how healthy, at least from my perspective, you seem to be about them), and yet how completely intimidated and uncertain and neurotic you are about any future ones.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

I love you, J0hn C. I really do.

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Since when do you want to get laid, J.? It always seems like you want to "have been laid".

This is the real therapeutic breakthrough for me right now. The more I think about it, the truer it is. The actual having-sex part stresses me out.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

I have to go, but I think that this has been a really really good conversation! A Quality Conversation!

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

somebody start a new thread: Chicago: Quality Conversations

GO!

― whiskeytangofoxtrot (unclejessjess), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

Oh great, Kenan. These threads should automatically be de-indexed, shouldn't they? At least I have a fairly common name.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, that's my opposite, John. I am soo happy with the happening, and neurotic in the aftermath.

― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

As per Jesse's request:

Chicago: Tago Mago

― Joe Polniaczek (kenan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel, I guess I was thinking less of the immediate aftermath, and more of the down-the-road being able to say I slept with someone and did adventurous things. All of my exciting sexual exploits are now years and years old. Except for that creepy guy I went home with a couple months ago.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Tomorrow, a thousand posts trying to pinpoint why J. finds sex so stressful. Meanwhile, I should go shower and start the offline part of my day.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

why J. finds sex so stressful

As "remarkably open" I am about my past sexual experiences, I'm not sure I entirely want to get into that. Not in public, at least. Unless I was drunk.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, you guys have been busy.

John was dancing with second-line dude at the show! Right? That took some guts, because that dude can f'n step.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

Who now?

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

I went home for lunch and watched a hard-hitting documentary called "How People Make Real Trumpets" on Mr. Roger's Neighborhood (complete with synthesized trumpet solo soundtrack).

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

The middle-aged black dude from New Orleans who was dancing a lot.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Right. We have a new thread now. :)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Then I'll stop posting on this one now.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, right now.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 13 March 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

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