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Let the discussion of pointy-nosed guitarists, Victorian novelists, chocolate and cheese, and errrr... general office boredom commence.

And please to post pictures of pretty boys when I get depressed.

― Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

...not like anyone posts in the afternoon anyway.

― Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

kaet, ever underestimating her audience (i am ALWAYS posting teh afternoon, lol)

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

i can post in the afternoon!

― teh_kit (g-kit), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure who this would appeal to most. Norman or Kate.

Æthenor
Deep in the Ocean Sunk the Lamp of Light is the debut from the trio of Stephen O’Malley (Sunn0)))), Daniel O’Sullivan (Guapo), and Vincent de Roguin (Shora). Taking its title from The Iliad, the music here is deep and cosmic, completely unlike anything you’d expect from such heavyweights. More in the tradition of Nurse With Wound’s "Spiral Insana" or Klaus Schulze’s "Cyborg" than any contemporary trend, the tracks float along in a masterful collage of activity, where careful scene changes highlight O’Sullivan’s classic but artfully placed Rhodes bombs, de Roguin’s organ, and O’Malley’s guitar. Extraordinary effort has gone into editing, mastering, and shaping these pieces – these are not tossed off improvisations or “side-project” orphans.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

BAN TEH_KIT

― ONIMO feels teh NOIZE (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know really why I tend not to post in the afternoon. But I don't.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

I get bored and cranky and post-lunch sugardip in the afternoons and it's when I need the cooler most of all.

I think maybe I should have some coffee. And then go and look at PBW some more, til I get too guilty and feel like a stalker.

― Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Did you get that email, Kate?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

Just did. Blimey, that looks like it might be good.

― Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

okay kids, going home for the day. what a waste it has been (although i did enjoy my curry)

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

My post-lunch sugar dip just leaves me sleepy.

On hte other hand, I've just had an iced bun!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

Lucky you. Waaahhh!!!

Though actually I can't even go home early, as I'm going to the pub.

Wait, why am I sad about that? I'm going to the pub, hurrah!

― Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

This is one of the best albums I've got lately
http://www.roboticempire.com/record.php?id=1338

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

How strange - how did that get in my Tunes folder? I've got some Tripping Daisy 20-minute space jam with Benjamin Curtis on drums.

Nice.

Better drummer than any 12 year old had a right to be.

― Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

OK, my life just got a bit better. Teenage Ben singing "Never, My Love".

― Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

Tripping Daisy 20-minute space jam

?!?

But that's just me.

Seasons End = one of the better new UK acts I've heard in a while. http://www.myspace.com/seasonsendmusic for the curious. They sample Disco Inferno = I like them.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Tops Off Our Heads, Ned. Ring any bells? No idea how it got here - must have been sent by someone from the TSM board for the Benjamin link.

― Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Ned, would you like to hear Æthenor?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

Discography gives me nothing. However, it does reveal that Benjamin is from Lawton, Oklahoma. Like Joan Crawford, apparently.

― Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Ring any bells?

Hmm...only vaguely. So is it any good?

Hey Ned, would you like to hear Æthenor?

Why not?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

If you like acid-fried Texan college radio pop of the mid 90s. Kinda like Flaming Lips Lite. But I can't dislike anything that Ben was involved with.

― Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

If you like acid-fried Texan college radio pop of the mid 90s

Sixteen Deluxe, where art thou? And Furry Things. And...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Hrrrrm. I'm not sure I like this Aething. It's a bit... "Is that the cat?"

― Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

This is bound to appeal to Ed and quite possibly you Kate.

Reigns : Entitled 'Styne Vallis', is the tale of a submerged village in Wessex. The Reigns operatives have spent a lot of time there, researching and experimenting. This album is it's story.

Some words to help/confuse:

"A sulphurous, blue-grey miasma hangs heavy over this spoiled reservoir as if the air itself is attempting to solidify to hold the water down. Within it, like spirits trapped in aspic, hover a million flies drawn by the stench of stagnation. If you could see through the fug, through the gelatinous surface of the water and through the shifting green murk, you would see houses, all the dwellings of a forgotten village, pathetically huddled together on the reservoir bed. A thousand silent corridors, landings and hallways, all lost in the gradual act of flaking away.

To the north, the Rectory, its trellises black with kelp. To the west, the war memorial, the names of the fallen devoured by the creeping slime. Now, to the south, the chapel and its new congregation, a thrashing, knotted snarl of eels. Above them, a rusted bell will occasionally slump to one side, emitting a reluctant clank. And somewhere, a page from a sodden calendar comes loose and floats up towards the surface.

This is Styne Vallis. This is where the trail begins."

Scripted voiceover for Eric Eptova's lost documentary "Wessex Faultline: Following the South-West's Supernatural Seam" (1972).

Our sales pitch: Honestly, this album is something special. From the artwork and booklet to the music, this is both haunting and beautiful. Who knows where, or whether, the lines of truth and fiction meet. You need this in your life.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

A Tales from Topographic Oceans for our time!

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

Hrmmmm. Interesting. But I think I'd rather see the lost documentary!

Man, I cannot BELIEVE I didn't realise tomorrow was Thanksgiving. Not like they'd let me celebrate it since I lost my green card. But still. I meant to do ... *something*.

― Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

I still haven't listened to the Joanna Newsom and Be Good Tanyas albums I bought a couple of weeks ago. I clearly don't <3 music any more :(

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

I still can't get through a Joanna Newsom album. Her *voice*... Can't do it.

― Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

Hahah, oh man, Kate -- good Mr. Br1an M. aka donut passed on this hilarious conversation between him and his mom where she had heard a lot of the 'new' stuff courtesy of a friend's kid, and was trashing nearly all of it (for good reason). Her key comment on Ms. Newsom: "And I thought Kim Carnes was a hag!"

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Ugh. Wake up from a nap to find my headache gone, but a new headache (problem student at YouSeeEl and emails from the higher-ups) to deal with. I'd like to retreat back to childhood now!

― g00blar (gooblar), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Question of the day, that no one seems to know the answer to:

Why *are* Geordies called "Geordies"?

― Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

A-ha! We have a winning answer! (from the Scot, not the Geordie) - which is that Newcastle were strong supporters of the Hanoverian Georges over the Jacobites.

― Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

People called George are called "Geordie" there.

Well, it's a start.

Pash?

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

oh fuck i nearly just answered the phone "hello, ilx"

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

ha!

― g00blar (gooblar), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

According to Merriam-Webster online, it's "diminutive of the name George", so there we have it yes.

I have no problem personally with the Newsom voice*, which is lucky, since I wub the rest of it; the harping, the words etc.

*) I might be wary of putting it on with other people present, though.

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

I've had a headache on and off since yesterday.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geordie

An alternative explanation for the name is that local miners used "Geordie" safety lamps, designed by George Stephenson in 1815, rather than the "Davy lamps" designed by Humphry Davy which were used in other mining communities.

― ONIMO feels teh NOIZE (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

The Hanoverian explanation is earlier, and therefore better.

― Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

NO ONE IN THIS DEPARTMENT HAS ANY CHOCOLATE AT ALL!!!

This is an outrage. I demand to have my contract reviewed.

What should I ask my mum to bring from Merka? I keep asking her for Bully Hill wine, but she disapproves of duty free as she's a teatotaller. :-(

― Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

The Hanoverian Georges were earlier, but not necessarily the explanation.

― ONIMO feels teh NOIZE (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

They supported Charles in the Civil War, I think we should start calling them Charlies.

― ONIMO feels teh NOIZE (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I just got left off the list for the office Xmas party - clearly that means I DO NOT HAVE TO GO!!!

(I'm just going to pretend my colleague didn't forward it to me.)

― Breaking Under The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

My grandad used Davy lamps! I've got one of them!

He was a miner in South Shields, but still...

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Sand dancer!

― ONIMO feels teh NOIZE (GerryNemo), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

My grandad used them too. He was a miner in Edinburgh before working as Compensations Officer. (he fought for payments for miners who got injured etc)

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

Like, actual *miners*? Who went down mines and stuff?

I always thought they were a myth.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

There used to be loads of mines in Edinburgh alone. It's strange when reading about mining in Scotland at the beginning of the 20th century, I was amazed there was so many in Edinburgh alone. Now I don't think theres any working mines left in Scotland. Apart from open cast ones I suppose.
Some of my dad's older brothers worked in mines when they were young. It's amazing the conditions that they worked in.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Blimey. Is Edinburgh hollow, then? I didn't think it was allowed, under a city.

Argh, I am going to have to walk straight through the EEZOHAD to get to the pub my friend has chosen. I don't see a way around it, except to take a ridiculously circuituitous route. Or maybe the bus. But that would be silly, as I need to get cash first.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I'm sure it's the outskirts. Then again Edinburgh is situated on a volcano isn't it?

Someone from Edinburgh to thread please!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

(or a smart arse)

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

Or someone that can use Google! Knowing a bit about your country's history doesn't make you a smart arse though.

The last deep mine in Scotland was Longannet, closed in 2002. Here is a map of Edinburgh with coal-fields marked on it.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~cmhrc/scot8.jpg

And yes, Arthur's Seat is an extinct volcano.

I am surprised that Kate thinks that actual real miners are a myth. Did the 80s pass you by?

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

(I'm not sure that those Edinburgh places are actually in Edinburgh itself)

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 22 November 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

Morning all. I'm in a genuine dublin rush hour traffic jam.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 23 November 2006 07:28 (nineteen years ago)

Pfft! I am sitting in front of a monitor, sulking at being told off by an indirect manager.

How are you posting if you're in a traffic jam?

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 23 November 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

Staitionery traffic + blackberry

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 23 November 2006 09:19 (nineteen years ago)

Ah yes the blackberry, is there nothing it can't do? They are not officially "supported" in Russia, as I understand.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 23 November 2006 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

So you survived the gales!

Good morning, all.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 23 November 2006 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

The hanoverian george thing is what I thought as well.

Today appears to have been national bad-driver show off day, gah.

There's road works w/traffic lights next to this school near us, the lights are on red, but some guy in a black clio decides to run them, speeding up to about 50mph to get through while they're still on amber at the other side, there's laods of schoolchildren around, etf.

nearere to work, some guy in a black ka tries to overtake me in a part of the road where there isn't actually room for 2 cars side by side. I have to move over to block him off, as he is clearly going to TRY AND SQUEEZE HIS CAR INTO A SPACE IT WON'T ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY FIT THROUGH and I don't want to get the side of my car stoved in.

Also loads of ppl weaving in and out of traffic, cutting in, not using indicator lamps etc.

Fucking morons.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 23 November 2006 10:41 (nineteen years ago)

I knew Arthur's Seat was an extinct volcano. But I had no idea that there was real mining under Edinburgh.

Argh, I missed my train because I ran out of milk and had to run and buy some. That is not as bad as Dublin traffic jams or weaving Geordies, but still.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

Also, there are no real Merkins here, but Happy Thanksgiving regardless.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 10:48 (nineteen years ago)

god my typing is so bad these days! I'll bang some post out, hit submit, then read it later and go AAARGH @ the number of typos.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 23 November 2006 10:55 (nineteen years ago)

Typos exist to remind us of human fallibility.

Like the Pope.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

Hurrah, we have decided on a walking path for Sunday. However, it is long and means that I have to do mine laundry on Saturday. Argh! As well as fit in a rehearsal. Bah. I am teh stupid sometimes.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:15 (nineteen years ago)

Happy thanksgiving.

Seems there are all sorts of exciting things below ground level in Edinburgh (I've been reading Ian Rankin lately).

And I just found a slug/snail trail on my living room carpet :(

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:15 (nineteen years ago)

Just send in Ed with a frying pan. You'll soon have a delicious treat.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

Urgh.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:20 (nineteen years ago)

Taking sides: Cooking slugs, vs. Fucking slugs.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'd prefer No Slugs At All.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure slugs have their uses:

1) Eating cabbages so they don't end up in Emsk's organic delivery box

2) endlessly entertaining ILX memes

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I am sleepy today.

Am I going to work on Direct or Ops?

No idea. Think I'll upwrap some new music and see if it inspires me.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

Goodness! I appear to have sound on my interweb today - I'm going to go and listen to some MySpaces.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

I was just gonna send you some of the new sloan, but it seems the files (which I got from a certain pointy-nosed guitarist) are ITUNESLOCKED, which means you wouldn't be able to listen to them without his password and shit, which I don't have. Oh well.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

Argh! How annoying. I can't just stick them in my Windows Media Player and play them? I've never heard of iTuneslocking. Weird.

(I'm listening to a certain pointy-nosed guitarist right now, in fact. Gosh, he's got such a pretty voice.)

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

It's because he bought 'em from the itunes store, so they can only be registered to five computers or some shit.

On myspace? His new stuff's pretty good, no? I think I'm playing bass when he records 'em properly.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

That's what you get for buying MP3s legally when you should rip 'em from your own CDs.

It's hard to tell because the sound quality is so crap on this 'puter, but they do sound purrty.

To be honest, I think I prefer when he plays in your band, because that's more POP! and more my thing. But he has got a lovely voice, and I could see his songs sounding lovely with the proper arrangement. He doesn't need any keyboards/programming/arrangements does he? I'm a wizard with a string quartet... ;-)

[/pimp my bandmates]

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, I prefer him in my band too!

I think, for the recording, he wants a very stripped down, John Wesley Harding sound. Acoustic guitar, bass, simple drums, and a (single) violin for counterpoint.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

I was kinda kidding. It's a very bad idea to play with someone you have a crush on...

Actually, no, that's not true. I've had great success with that back in NYC, if you can manage to channel the sexual tension/longing into the music.

I dunno, it's just weird, because in NYC, people were always playing on one another's records and doing vocal guest spots and stuff. And I can't remember the last time someone in the UK asked me. Or even sounded keen when I suggested it. :-( Guess it's a different musical culture here.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

(Or maybe people *do* just hate me.)

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

Argh, OK, no. This is ridiculous. I tried to listen to your MySpace, Gooblar, and I know how those songs *should* sound like, but my soundcard just garbles them. Bah. I give up.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, nah, I think you're right (not that people hate you)--I've noticed less of that spirit here too. Although, for me, that may be a product of me feeling more 'at home' in new york than i do here, even after living here for four years.

I'm still trying to work up the courage to ask you if I can try a remix of noyfriend (I've got a great idea for it).

xpost

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

The last deep mine in Scotland was Longannet, near Kincardine.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

Sure, you can remix Noyfriend. We've just recorded a new version of it, so have a go. Can you read Cubase files?

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

Dunno, I was gonna use Reason--can Reason read cubase files?

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

Uh, I don't think so. Reason, AFAIK, is just a sequencer - Cubase is a full-on recording suite.

I'll have to dig out my Cubase installation discs for you as well.

Though there is a Reason file for Noyfriend, it's just drums, bass and some keyboards - doesn't have the guitar or the vocals on it, natch.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, just checked--seems impossible in Reason. Y'see I don't need to actually record anything new, just remix, and add new elements (from prerecorded stuff), so Reason would be fine...if I could get the files in there.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 23 November 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

BTW, this lost village album is really good, Kerr!

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck's sakes @ stupid annoying work-related shit. I feel like sticking my head through the wall.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Why does EVERYTHING have to be like negotiating an obstacle course?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Garg, I hate that kind of thing, Pash. Sit down and have a cup of tea or something. Tea magically makes everything better. Or looking at pictures of hott boys/babes (delete as appropriate).

(I was saved from the post-lunch crankies by PBW uploading a new photo. Oh, and ginger chocolate.)

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

Come to Russia, Pash, every single moment of your life is like that!

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, I'm just realising that today is, like, the most *English* day on ILX ever.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

2 english 4 u!

― teh_kit (g-kit), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I can't even pretend to be a Merkin since I lost my green card. Boo hoo.

(I am crying, please to post pictures of pointy nosed boys, please.)

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

A little blurry, but.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

You are just tormenting me now. :-P

Jaysus Kryset, that grin of his. Like a five million watt hallogen bulb.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I know, I should have heeded the warnings of the screen name, and posted this instead:

http://polnotes.typepad.com/windfarmblog/images/pinocchio.gif

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Was he laughing at the Random Shouty Man, there?

You should hire him to come to other gigs and dance down front like Bez while shouting random things. He was hilarious.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

srsly. He was heckling us THROUGHOUT OUR SOUNDCHECK. "Play Oasis, bruv!" "Play the who!"

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

At least he didn't get onstage with you and start trying to change your pedals. I've had a random drunken dude try to do this. Not good - I get very protective of my pedals.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

I've had a drunk dude get onstage and try to change the settings on my amp, too - but he, unfortunately, wasn't random - he was the sodding sound man!

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Jeez, the worst I've ever had to do is a volume battle between me and the old men watching the hockey at the Barfly in Montreal.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

...there's a nightmare soundman thread on I Make Music. Can't remember if there's a nightmare heckler/random dancing drunk dude thread.

You are a bad mang for posting that picture. I can't stop looking at it. Coz I can't help but grin the same way.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

This is pathetic!

I'm way too old for this sort of thing. Mooning over boys in bands. A nonsense!

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

Well, you're not alone. K's always telling me I should count my lucky stars I have two hott brothers in the band. We certainly already have a certain subset of our following who come just to ogle.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Smuggo. (Said with love.)

Yay sleeping in on a holiday!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know what it means, but I really like 'smuggo' as a word.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

I know, I know, and we totally play up on the same thing ourselves (except I have two hott sisters and another hott blonde) for the same purposes. I'm well aware that there's a ~~subset~~ overwhelming majority of our fans that come for the ogling purposes.

(though that's problematic in and of itself, because I get jealous that people come to ogle the girls to the exclusion of actually noticing the music, which I do so much work on. Or, really, that they come to ogle the others, and I never get any fanboys. Bah.)

I'm just kind of flummoxed, wondering whether it's a totally pathetic thing, or a good and wonderful thing to be so utterly poleaxed by such a shallow thing, a reaction to physical beauty.

I often wish I could really grow out of it, get beyond it or whatever. But I suppose I wouldn't be *me* any more if I did. The links between libido and creativity are so deeply engrained.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

OTM

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

It's funny, though, thinking back on the other thread, about how I was saying I thought it was awful, my inflicting a crush on someone.

But I think about it the other way around, and on the few occasions that I have actually had a gaggle of fanboys swooning over me, my reaction has been "yee-hah, this is what I'm in a band *for*!"

(And why I get so jealous of mine own band, because there are 3 much prettier girls in between me and swoonage.)

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Oi, Kate! Real American representing for Thanksgiving.

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

Gobble gobble!

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

This is why we are all quite deliberately hideous and play with the lights out. It's all about the music, man.

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Thursday, 23 November 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

All about the music, a nonsense. You and Chris just exist to torment me with your floppy DDB hair.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

Don't make me post the pictures of you in the shopping trolley.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

BTW, this lost village album is really good, Kerr!

Hurrah.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 23 November 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Err... how can you tell whether they're there to ogle or listen to the music? I always worry that being a late-20s woman at gigs where everyone else is 19 or 20 and mostly male everyone assumes I'm just there to lech over the pretty young boyflesh. (And of course I'd like to know how embarrassed I need to be in the cases where it might actually be true, ha-hem.)

I mean I don't look very indie so it's either that or they'll assume I just routinely get lost again and again in the same pubs at gig times, wondering why I had to pay to get in and why there is always this awful racket that doesn't sound like Robbie Williams or whatever women with no dress sense are meant to listen to. But anyway.

(Hello, sorry to burst into the Watercooler like this, I'll leave quietly without anyone calling the office security guy if need be...)

― Rebecca (reb), Thursday, 23 November 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Stick around! Blimey.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 23 November 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Hello, Rebecca! Welcome to us, indeed! Stick around, please!

I don't know. Sometimes it's hard to tell. Sometimes you're there for both. I mean, I should have known what was coming when Ed and I went and sat up front for the gig, to get a better look at the amps - and suddenly this WALL of about 5 or 6 girls came and stood directly in front of us for better ogle-power. And I felt vaguely annoyed because I was all "humph! I'm here because I admire Dave's songwriting!" but then I saw the boyflesh on display and understood why all the girls were up front. ;-)

I don't know. SOmetimes I worry at gigs, that people must think I'm the bands' mum or something. Unless I pull out a notepad and start taking notes, like I'm reviewing it.

But I can definitely tell when boys are at our gigs just to ogle. Usually because they make a bee-line for one of the girls as soon as the set is over, before they even get offstage.

(OK, I did this to Dave on Friday, but he's like, married and stuff, so I was clearly just going to talk to him about SLOOO-AAAAN!)

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

The last deep mine in Scotland was Longannet, near Kincardine.

I said that! It closed in 2002, but the power station remains to blot the landscape (except it's across the Firth of Forth from the BP refinery at Grangemouth, so small potatoes on the landscape-blotting front really)

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 23 November 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

3:51 PM, 23 Nov 06 Thread locked user g-kit by Pashmina

Why teh Kit haet Kaet?

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 23 November 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

So. Much. Smoked. Turkey.

Urf.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 23 November 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, Ailsa, that's what happens when I skim-read.

I'd say those places on the map were in Edinburgh - certainly Newcraighall and Gilmerton are. A few miles further east at Prestonpans, the main railway line was dug up a few years ago, because it was badly affected by subsidence caused by medieval coal mines.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 23 November 2006 23:36 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

Hello!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 4 January 2007 06:43 (nineteen years ago)

Oh wow!

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 4 January 2007 06:56 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yes, two ILEs, that won't cause any confusion.

― Hi There! Dear Johnney B (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 08:47 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, but hi y'all! (I won't delete my sandbox bookmark JUST yet)

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 08:50 (nineteen years ago)

Can we have a nu-nu-ilx age of majority cooler thread please.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 4 January 2007 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

Great to have the real thing back. Now all I need is a fully functioning right ear.

I think, I HOPE it is just a build up of wax. I can't hear a thing out of it and it feels very, very bunged up.

― MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 4 January 2007 10:03 (nineteen years ago)

Majority cooler thread? Sounds like commie talk to me.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

Poor Mark! Have you been to the docs yet? (I think you may have told me, but I forget)

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 10:35 (nineteen years ago)

I was going for victorian/edwardian age of majority stuff.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 4 January 2007 10:35 (nineteen years ago)

morning!

mark does it hurt? keep a very very close eye (er...) on it.

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 4 January 2007 10:56 (nineteen years ago)

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Fucking coworkers, take some fucking responsibilty so that I don't have to pick up the pieces of your fucking shitty fucking incompetence. If you write a report, you own that report, and the numbers contained within, don't make me guess at what numbers go where then shrug your fucking shoulders and look at me like a dog that's just been shown a card trick. And most of all, DON'T CAUSE ME WORK!

Ug.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 10:57 (nineteen years ago)

I do apologise, normal service of happy calm Johnny will resume shortly. In the meantime, relax to the docile tones of the James Last Orchestra.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 10:59 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and morning emsk.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

Have you got yourself ponytailed yet? (I ask this question in a non-pervy way) (well, not very pervy)

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, sunday walking is go go go. I got the date of the meeting wrong.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 4 January 2007 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

Johnny, yr AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! post makes me very glad that I do not interact with my colleagues other to get them cups of tea, have lunch and anticipate the forthcoming Arcade Fire album. I haven't been to the docs yet, I went to the chemist en route to work and bought Q-Tips (to stick in my ear, not Paul Young's former band) and OtexTM. My doctor is very anti-syringing and says things like "That wax is there for a reason" so I am hoping self-treatment sorts it out. I am sure the reason isn't to make me hear in mono.

I am bouncing in anticipation of a pony-tailed Emsk.

― MarkH (MarkH), Thursday, 4 January 2007 11:14 (nineteen years ago)

er no not yet. i was gonna but then got way too comfy folded up on the sofa and watched brazil, which made me think of children of men.

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 4 January 2007 11:22 (nineteen years ago)

Pigtails anyway innit. I would find it very strange to be excited by ponytailed women (not least because they're, you know, everywhere).

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 4 January 2007 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

womentailed ponies, however, are very rare indeed.

― Mark Hester (New MarkH), Thursday, 4 January 2007 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't there some weird hairdos in Brazil? I remember there being some kind of odd pigtail nonsense somewhere along the line, but I haven't watched it for ages so that may be a lie.

Coworkers still being obstinate in their pursuit of trying to make my life as difficult as possible.

Me: "Any idea when your report is going to be ready?" (A report that, bear in mind, he knows has to be run on the 1st of every month, and we had something of a natter about it last month)
Him: "When it's run."
Me: "Any idea when that'll be?"
Him: "Could be anytime."
Me: ........ *screaming and crying in my head*

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

Could one of you fellows tell me if there is a decathlon shop in Aalst or Ghent and tell me where it is.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 4 January 2007 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

Blimey. It's back. I can't update my settings for some reason, so I'm going to be a different person every time I post. Could get confusing.

Hearing in mono is generally NOT wax build-up. It indicates an infection. You probably need some kind of anti-biotics *and* a good ear syringing. So many times I've got the do it yourself kit for wax removal and ended up making the infection worse.

― Sonic Smouldering Iron (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

Where is everyone? Back on Old ILX?

Also, a thing: PLEASE could someone come up with something terribly important that MUST happen on 9th February. I've got a Gala Dinner to get out of.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

How about I dub you as a knight?

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 4 January 2007 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

You can't go! We're getting married on that day! Please don't leave me standing at the altar again!

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

I've got to go somewhere... for the whole weekend. Leaving immediately after work. Think! Think!

(Does anyone else keep going back to the wrong bookmark?)

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

Hi all!

Back from the states yesterday. Am now very tired as I didn't sleep for more than a couple of hours, giving up completely at 5am, due to jet-lag induced wakefulness. Otherwise good.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 4 January 2007 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

Hello and welcome back! Don't forget - jet lag is Nature's way of PUNNISHING YOU FOR FUCKING WITH IT.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I think jet-lag is nature's way of punishing me for taking a nap for 5 hours yesterday instead of merely 2.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 4 January 2007 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, never take a nap the first day back! I did this to my mum and she protested and groaned and eventually went to bed at 8.30, but she DID NOT have jet lag. However, going the other way, who knows.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck a badly implemented router protocol and fuck a nine hour time difference between me and the people who programmed it. Get up california.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 4 January 2007 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Hooray, back with mine own log-in and everything.

Eventful yesterday and day before spent partially in company of shiny new congressman, partially in company of Hastings Kru. All parties awesome.

Walkies! Oh joy. When and where?

Ed, Californicators will be up in two hours.

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 4 January 2007 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

Sigh. I only got through two episodes of Babylon 5 last night because I was tired. I had forgotten how *wooden* the acting is in the first series - especially Sinclair. But there are so many threads of what is to come among all the silly cod-Star Trekisms.

Bab 5 never made it to England, did it?

I wish that the BBC would put out whole box set *series* of the earlier Doctors instead of charging twice the price for one episode at a time. Grrr.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

i remember bablyon 5 briefly on channel 4

i think 'do not feed the crush' could be my ny resolution

― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Bah, I thought there was a Bab 5 thread on ILX, and I thought Noodles started it, but cannot find it on Google.

I wish I could change my screen name, because my resolution is to have no more IRL crushes, because they are only ever bad.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

exactly, if i could chart a graph of my life the down parts i'm sure would coincide with unhealthy crush periods.

― Ste (Fuzzy), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

I remember Babylon 5 being like DS9, but slower - correct?. It arrived after my ST phase, so it kinda passed me by.

emsk, why the shark-brain?

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

pls to feed my crush!

also, when buying dvds online, if it says this:

Region
Region 2 - Will only play on European Region 2 or multi-region DVD players.

that doesn't stop it playing in my computer, right?

xpost oh i just like sharks and i was thinking about them on the way in to work this morning and trying to be like one.

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Don't sharks only sleep with one side of their brain at a time?

No, no, Bab 5 came before DS9 and is much better. DS9 is the Bab5 ripoff, not vice versa. I think it owes a lot more to Who than to ST, but I know I'm alone in that opinion.

I like it for having been conceived as one over-arching 5-year series. (though apparently there were movies as well - never saw one.)

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Babylon 5 was shown on Channel 4, I think. Due to sweeps-week and other American oddness, some of the episodes were shown first on C4.

Like DS9 but not boring shite, yes. I always wondered whether anyone has asked Joss Whedon about it as influence - it has the same big plot/little plot thing, and one of the few one-man-show big long shows in American TV.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of my Bab 5 obsessive friends went on to be Buffy obsessives.

But then again, there's a lot of crossover between Buffy and Who fans.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

God, we are geeks. With a capital Guh.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

Don't sharks only sleep with one side of their brain at a time?

yes and they DON'T SLEEP! bc they can NEVER STOP SWIMMING! sharky-sharky-shark-shark...

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

pls to feed my crush!

Feed crush......shark......feed crush...shark... I can see a hilarious misunderstanding here.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

You are worrying me.

Emsk or Suzy - are you doing anything late next week - Wed, Thurs, Fri? I'm going to be handless and regenerating and want someone to come and visit the sick, wah, boo hoo, etc. Are you around?

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

OK I'm taking an short nap. Someone make sure I'm up by 4:30.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

What, by banging on the interweb?

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

YES.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I am reserving in advance Sunday the 28th January for my annual Burns Curry. Don't nobody make no other plans!

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Your computer should be able to play all regions of DVDs - if not, you're using the wrong media player. VLC will certainly play all regions.

And "feeding your crush" can be such a flexible phrase. It depends on what you're feeding them I suppose. many xpost.

Yay to Burns night curry! Swede in curry is amazing. I've never read any Burns, maybe now is the time to start. Is he any good?

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Can we curry a mcsweens veggie haggis?

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

i dunno what i'm doing late next week, if they ask me to work i'm gonna have to say yes cos i need the cash.

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

If I could find a veggie haggis, I'd curry it! I suppose I could ask the scot here, but she's busy since the finn is still out sick.

My Malay style neeps and tattie curry last year was brilliant, if I may say so myself.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Malay Style? I've heard about your curries, and I fear them.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

do you refer to all your colleagues by their nationality, Kate? I'd hate to be known as English #206.

However, a Malay style neeps and tattie curry sounds rather wonderful and I must try at the earliest possible opportunity.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

What, by banging on the interweb?

ha ha ha

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

No, it's just because so many of my colleagues and I all have the same name - so it's easier to say their nationality than their name when everyone is called Kate or Kati or Katherine or Karen. So we have Finn, Geordie, Scot, Fake Merkin etc.

Malay style is mild and fairly fruity. It's based on ginger, not chilie.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Kate, what day is surgery? Will see what is possible.

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

google "vegetarian haggis" and tons of info/recipe pages come up. also, haha:

Note to U.S. residents: The United States government has determined that sheep lungs are unfit for human consumption.

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

Wednesday morning. 10am. Eeep.

x-post HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH. Oh dear lord.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

I can't believe I am doing this again. I'm actually feeling a bit nervous. But it's reached that point. Just sent off the email, asking someone I've wanted to work with for a long long time (and we've talked about it for ages) if they want to finally get on and do something together. Who knows if they'll go for it. Probably not. Another band. Argh! But I've got to do something or I'll go mad.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Haggis: Reminds me, top Xmas game moment...

We were playing Cranium, team Alice and me, question was: Which ingredient is not in Haggis: Sheeps liver,heart,stomach,(other)

I was saying Lungs, Alice said Liver, something made me go for her answer (while she looked uneasy) it proved to be right much to Alice's amazed joy "I was just GUESSING!!!"

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

working together != band

(this may be doublethink)

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

good move.

wasn't markh interested in coming on walk too? or was that only if we were going to see a horse/man (um sharks have crap memories?)

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I am interested in walking, with or without centaurs.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Well, as far as I see it, my options for keeping it enjoyable:

1) Form a much smaller and more manageable unit, a la the Pet Shop Boys or something. One boffin (me), one frontperson. Keep it simple.

2) Form a much looser and less formal group, with me as centre/auteur, and varying singers/collaborators etc. a la Magnetic Fields.

I never want to be in A Band again. But I would like to work with other people, because it's just more enjoyable that way.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

For Mark H: A Centour.

http://www.cc.gatech.edu/aimosaic/students/centaur/compendium/Images/mythb-tiny.gif

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

OK you guys - I'm shutting down to return to the land of the watercooler; might surf at airport if bored, who knows...

― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

What would be the point of two ribcages?

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Have a good flight, get home safe, Suzy.

Two ribcages .... err... two hearts?

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Believing in just one mind, beating together till the end of time.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

wtf was this doing as my horoscope on dec 29th? if the planets knew anything they would know i am more obsessive about recycling than anyone i know. pah.

Make sure you have an active recycling program working in your home, and while you are at it, be sure that there is one in your workplace as well, EMMA. Be a part of the solution instead of the problem by picking up after yourself and making sure that you aren't leaving a mess behind wherever you go. The safety of our environment is becoming more of a concern every day, and it is up to individuals to really make a difference.

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

even shouting yr name to emphasise the point! yes I'm talking to YOU!

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

What were you doing on the 29th? WAITING FOR THE DELIVERY MAN!!!

Errr, so maybe it's a coded message that the delivery man would let you down the second day straight?

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

Yes but they don't! The stars might have an excuse, some of them will only be getting light from when you were little, but the planets should be fairly up to date.

UNLESS... it's all cobblers.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

They're in revolt over the demotion of Pluto.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

But why would a centaur need two hearts? (unless you're a timelord, clearly).

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Why would stars care about recycling? A clean planet won't bring Pluto back.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Because otherwise they'd be hollow, and they'd turn upsidedown when they went swimming.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

can't centaurs do the backstroke?

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Why would they flip upside down? Horses don't, and I'm sure that a torso+head could easily be counterbalanced. The upper ribcage just seems unnecessary.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

Because they'd look pretty darn odd with just a head sticking out of a horse's neck.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

x-post : yay for Kate in musical collaboration thing. I'd vote for small unit if with right person. Auteur-type set-up might be fun too.

I'd love there to be an ILX gig sometime.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Well, for gigging a smaller unit would be preferable, but I think for recording (which I'm far more interested in, TBH) a large cast of available voices is perferable. I don't know. We shall see what happens.

I think my MySpace mail isn't working, anyway, as no one is replying to me at all.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Mmmmm. Waitrose green tea with ginger and lemon is grate.

I vote for Magnetic Fields style (but then I would :-)).

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 4 January 2007 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, so you are awake! We didn't even have to bang on the interweb.

I'm dying on my feet. Or my arse, as it is. So tired. Cannot believe I still have another 6 hours to go.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

This will amuse me in the morning:

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b132/mel_face/cry.jpg

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Morning!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 5 January 2007 08:40 (nineteen years ago)

Hi FP! Still the holidays here, through Tuesday, but I finally got broadband working in my flat. And I bought a desk! I almost feel like a whole person!

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 5 January 2007 08:56 (nineteen years ago)

Last night I watched The Thick Of It xmas special on my new 22" widescreen flatscreen monitor. Looks r8 nice and I laughed too hard.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Friday, 5 January 2007 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

Morning all, I hope to get out of belgium soon.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 5 January 2007 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

Looks like I will be back here next week but at least I'll be able to come by train.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 5 January 2007 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

Morning, or, err, something. Whatever it is.

Totally overslept and didn't even make it to the shrink. Which is just as well, as I decided I didn't want to go on any more medications. My depression lately has been totally situation based, not chemical, and needs to be dealt with as such.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

To leave the apartment today, or not... Bah humbug I hate the holidays.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 5 January 2007 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

You're still on holidays? Bloody orthodox holidays. it's worse than Canadian Christmas.

Ah well, at least it's Friday.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

I could have sworn we had a thread about freckles, but search is still broken and I can't find it on Google.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

Freckles - C/D?

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 5 January 2007 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you!

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

OK, now I'm all distracted because in my search for freckles, I've found a German site with a cache of photos of DT in a selection of eye-bending Liberty print shirts. Help me!

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

Cup of tea, anyone?

http://www.drwho.de/media/galerie/david_tennant/13.jpg

OK, I swear to god, I'm gonna go do the monthend reccs now. Enough procrasturbating.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

ed do you like the oldham tinkers

― -- (688), Friday, 5 January 2007 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, hurrah!

A friend I hadn't heard from in ages just found out I was "available" and emailed to ask if I wanted to do some vocals and guitar on his next album. Awesome!

Good things are happening.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

That is a good thing.

Hello 'cooler. I'm at the library for the first time in ages, though I haven't actually done any work yet. I had to complete this stupid online job application. The deadline is today, and I logged on only to find that the position vanished from the website (must have been an automated thing). Luckily (I hope), I found the page in my browser history and completed it from there (it worked). I just hope they didn't close the position at like midnight last night.

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

Argh, deadlines like that are tricky. But if your CV is good enough, usually they'll look at everyone up to the last minute. I hope!

I have yet to do any proper work, either. Too busy answering email and googling David Tennant's freckles. I shall work. Now. Honest. Unless Ailsa has any other good photos to torture me with.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

OMG, I was looking for a picture of this, but someone put the clip on YouTube!!!

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

YouTube is so shit, all I get is jerky stills! Argh! Can't get it to actually frieze on *him* Her. Whatever.

He actually looks quite good. Kind of a "Isabella Rosselini in Blue Velvet" sort of thing going on.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Tripod won't let me link direct, but uh...

http://hclairezon.tripod.com/davidtennantphotos/id46.html

I'm kinda... *confused*. Blimey.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

They're from the clip on YouTube I linked to. There are even worse photos I've seen. Blond highlighted flat-top hair, anyone?

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

Oh come on, hit me with it. I can take it. Ignore the screen-name, just bring it on.

― Feed The Crush FEEEEED the Crush! (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

I can't. Sorry.

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Waaaaaaah. :-(

::kicks Ailsa under table for being such a tease::

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

I was watching Posh Nosh last night, where Blonde DT was acting as a love interest for Richard E. Grant!

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Blond DT with ponytail and leather jacket, no less.

Make it stop, make it stop, I'll expode.

http://hclairezon.tripod.com/davidtennantphotos/id105.html

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

That's got to be a wig. Too... luxurient. I'm afraid.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

He's godmother to Arabella Weir's kid, fact fans!

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh, that stalkeriffic website has some similar ones:

http://hclairezon.tripod.com/davidtennantphotos/id72.html

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

All manic depressives, like, grin, MANIACALLY, all the time, you know. This is fact.

http://hclairezon.tripod.com/davidtennantphotos/id48.html

God he's pretty with one of those early 90s Manchester bowlies. He's also about twelve there. No, wait a minute. He's, like, eight days younger than me, I think. Fact checker?

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Um.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c228/tennant05/newsround/fnp2.jpg

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

He was the year above my husband in school. So he's probably about 35 I think.

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe a year and 8 days younger than me. I think. I have trouble remember how old I am a lot of the time because I was 22 for so long.

OK, I'm not going to read any interviews with him, because crushing on actors is always disappointing, because they are *not* who they protray. Usually actors are quite boring luvvies, actually.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yep, 35, he'll be 36 in May. Was about 22/23 in those Madchester-haired photos.

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

April. April 18 - I remembered that because it's so close to mine own.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

I never knew he was in Bright Young Things! I think I was just about the only person on earth who liked that film, as well.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

i just got an email with the subject line "Mesh Sponges on a Stick to give away", and it's not even spam. FRIDAY AFTERNOON IS THIS ALL YOU HAVE TO OFFER??

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, just give up and look at Doctor Who pr0n with the rest of us.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

Wait, I did NOT just say that.

Shoot me now.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

ahahahahahaa! dr who pr0n wouldn't work for me anyhow. and there are no pics i like on the interweb (except of sharks and spiders and stuff, actually there are some REALLY cool spider ones)

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, he was born in PAISLEY!"!!!!!!

http://www.equilter.com/TTJAC5MG.jpg http://www.equilter.com/BECHI6DN.jpg

I always like looking at paisley. Until mine eyes start to go funny.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

Some day I will actually go to Paisley. And be very disappointed if the streets are not lined with paisley wearing pointy nosed gingery freckled dronerock boys.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

He wasn't born in Paisley, actually, but he moved here when young. He still pops back from time to time though. Streets are mostly lined with vomited-up kebabs and gingery freckled Irn-Bru swilling chumps with big gold chunky jewellery.

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Do not destroy my illusions, Ailsa. The streets are paved with Paisley. I know they are.

::stamps feet::

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

Ah! And now the other person I asked yesterday got back to me and said maybe. or at least it seems like they are willing to give it a try. Excellent!

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

OK, OK, come here if you want,but don't say I didn't warn you. (there's lots of paisley in the museum and there are paisley flowerbeds and stuff)

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 5 January 2007 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

Did you see that "David Tennant's Family Tree" Prog, (Who do you think you are?) last year?

Forever repeated on BBC4

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 5 January 2007 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

I HAVE NO TELLY. I CAN SEE NONE OF THESE THINGS. I CAN SEE ONLY WHAT I CAN BUY ON DVD OR PEOPLE TAPE FOR ME!!!! WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!

SPEAKING OF WHICH, ED, ARE YOU *EVER* GOING TO COPY ME TORCHWOOD AND NOW THE xMAS EPISODE AS WELL?!?!?

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Hang on a second, did you say Paisley Museum?!?!? As in a Museum dedicated to the fabric? I want to go THERE!

Sod Oxford, let's drive to Scotland on Sunday.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

No, it's a museum in Paisley about Paisley (the town) where they made paisley-patterned stuff in the mills, so there is a bit of the museum about paisley stuff.

The pub in which DT is interviewed in in that Who Do You Think You Are programme is one which I frequent often. In fact, I was in the pub next door when that was being filmed, it turns out.

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 5 January 2007 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

It claims to have the largest collection of paisley shawls IN THE WORLD. Excellent!

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Friday, 5 January 2007 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Poor Kate and her "no telly" policy is missing David T on The Friday Night Project tonight.

(alternately, lucky Kate doesn't have to endure Alan Carr and Justin Lee Tosswipe)

― ailsa (ailsa), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

Tracer Hand got me hung over, curse you, Tracer Hand.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 8 January 2007 08:09 (nineteen years ago)

Morning. Today so far has been annoying and good in equal measure. I am in a mood to piss myself off.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 8 January 2007 08:27 (nineteen years ago)

morning! no work to go to which is BOO but otoh had a lie in YAY. the weather outside is confusing, when i opened the curtains it looked like one of those city summer days and it still does.

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 8 January 2007 09:53 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but it's coooold! (Hi, all)

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 8 January 2007 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

It is not cold.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 8 January 2007 09:56 (nineteen years ago)

(I will have some coffee and a shower and maybe get dressed before I decide if I actually believe you or not. Right now, I'm cold.)

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 8 January 2007 10:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hi all! The weather is beautiful today, it's 100% January.

Bad news: I just poured coffee in my computer and it switched itself off. Me panicking about losing 2 months work etc.
Good news: After 5 minutes I switched it back on, and it worked! Yay to my hardcore computer!

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 8 January 2007 10:01 (nineteen years ago)

We have a new consultant in, installing an add-on to our accounting and stock control package. She is wearing Boots Of Sex. I am trying *very* hard not to get distracted by them, but not managing very well.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 8 January 2007 10:17 (nineteen years ago)

YSI?

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 8 January 2007 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning. It isn't cold. Not really.

I'm feeling... meh today. Black dog still on my shoulder and not really going anywhere.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

That's not good. Did you have an enjoyable ride back home yesterday? Did you stay away from The Evil Jazz?

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 8 January 2007 10:35 (nineteen years ago)

it was enjoyable (even tho it wasn't home for me). Went to the Glasshouse Stores with Alla and caught the Oxford Tube back. I am feeling strangely awake now, considering.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Monday, 8 January 2007 10:37 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just having one of those times when I feel like I'm disappearing down the wrong end of a telescope, and everyone I care about is at the other end, and I can't reach them.

It's hard to explain. I probably shouldn't try. The short days, the weather, all that crap is not helping.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 10:38 (nineteen years ago)

so sorry you feel like that, Kate. I have to say that yesterday made me wish I could spend my whole life traisping along towpaths lubricated with copious amounts of brandy.

will you be buying new shoes today, Johnney? ;)

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Monday, 8 January 2007 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

Those bloody shoes, I am so unimpressed by that. I got some funny looks trapsing through Oxford town center, I can tell you. I'm gonna try and buy some hardcore walking shoes for the coming year, that can deal with Glastonbury floods and country pubs in equal measure, that will be comfy on the feet and not FALL TO PIECES AND NEED TO BE TIED TOGETHER WITH VINES!

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 8 January 2007 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

I was pretty impressed by our plastic bag and a vine quick fix, though. It was very Ray Meares Bushcraft.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

Welcome to the Plough at Wolvercote. A fine selection of wine, ales and string.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

The Plough at Wolvercote? Right, I'll get teh address and send them some chocolates through the post. I know how soul destroying it is working in as pub, so I'm sure the sentiment will be appreciated.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

Still don't think they'll forgive you for nicking those roast potatoes.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

I'm assuming they had a buffet, then.

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:04 (nineteen years ago)

They were on the bar! In a big bowl! They may as well have plastered EAT ME all over the damn things. How was I supposed to resist the roasties? You're just jealous cos I got one and you didn't.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/s/98/9829/Plough/Wolvercote

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

With your fingers, no less. I'm sure they were headed for someone's dinner, and they could not send them out after your dirty, vine-stained fingers had been all over them.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

Baaah, they didn't see me. Am I really the only person who is aware of gratuity roast potatoes on the bar at pubs? Is this another exclusively Oxfordshire/ West Country thing?

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:12 (nineteen years ago)

I have never seen a gratuity roast potato in my life.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:12 (nineteen years ago)

another exclusively Oxfordshire/ West Country thing is that ppl caught nicking roast potatoes are obliged to stand in for the dolly at the next season's Aunt Sally matches.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:14 (nineteen years ago)

Ah man, I didn't realise I was stealing someone's roasts! I feel really bad now. I'll send them an extra BIG box of chocolates. Cheers guys, you've knocked me from my happy perch and into the gravel of discontent. *mope mope*

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

Good. Misery loves company. I will not rest until you are all as depressed as me. Then I will be happy. ;-)

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

haha that rolling walk was so much more rolling than walking! we spent, what, about 75 minutes actually walking? (including walking from the table to the bar and back)

ed, infants are playing at white heat a week tomorrow. i really really really want to go. and this time around i am going to prepare for it by playing both urusei yatsura albums v loud all week.

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

OMG my new mp3 player is here! ten days early!

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yay to MP3 players!

(honestly emsk, your life will change from now on)

I kinda liked the low-key of it all. TO be honest, I was happy with the short walking, anything too hardcore and my DIY shoes would have given up the ghost. I barely made it home last night.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

I was kinda disappointed to find that the entire walk was only about 3 miles - even with the doubling back.

But still, a nice gentle walk to ease us back into rolling walking.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

Nest week: Pennines!

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ron.strutt/fullpics/pennines.jpg

There's a pub round the next corner!

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

We'd have to bring a gallon of brandy.

OK, honest. I've had my coffee and now I'm going to go and work on the horrible horrible recc. Which will probably take the rest of the day. Will try to stay off ILX at least until lunch.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

I'm awaiting a nice 2GB card for my nice mobile phone / MP3 player, after my old crumbly faithful 128mb mp3 player finally bit dust.

Heck, it'll seem like an ol' ipod to me! (Until I get it all filled up and cbb sorting it out)...

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

Am I really the only person who is aware of gratuity roast potatoes on the bar at pubs? Is this another exclusively Oxfordshire/ West Country thing?

Just to make Johnney feel better, I can confirm this is a frequent event in the West Country and I would assume roasties in a bowl on the bar were for the taking too.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

Yay to MP3 players!

(honestly emsk, your life will change from now on)

i had one before but it got er broken. now i have a dilemma - play with baby/play with mp3 player? trying to do both simultaneously but it's tricky.

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

Come to Lincolnshire - it's pretty flat.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 8 January 2007 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

This is a direct quote from the Lincolnshire Tourist Board.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Monday, 8 January 2007 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

Well they still use "Skegness - it's so bracing!" as a slogan, and that was written in about 1908.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 8 January 2007 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40029000/jpg/_40029986_skeggyfisherman203.jpg

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Monday, 8 January 2007 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

Bloody hell, I just checked when that slogan was written, and it *was* 1908.

*That* edition of it is from about 15-20 years later, by the look of it. Maybe closer to 15, going by the lettering style, but definitely no earlier.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 8 January 2007 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

(you're all going to say "yes, we know, why are you telling us?" now, aren't you. Apart from certain people who will be proud they've never heard of Skegness before and assume it's probably somewhere in Denmark, or something)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 8 January 2007 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

I've been to Skegness. I liked it, esp. the seal sanctuary.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Monday, 8 January 2007 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

I've never been, but in my mind it's exactly the same as every other northern(ish) seaside town eg grim as fuck.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 8 January 2007 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

I like the name Skegness. But I like anything with a "ness" in the name, pretty much. Sheerness, Inverness, etc. I also like the idea of going to a place becuase it is "bracing". that's a much better incentive than "oh, well, it's rather nice, innit?"

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

I can stand on top of a hill and it'll be bracing, that's no reason to go anywhere.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 8 January 2007 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

Bracing seaside is good, though.

Oh, I should have been a pirate.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

I've never been much of a fan of the seaside. Too many unhappy memories of Bournemouth in the dead of winter.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 8 January 2007 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

Northern Grimness, rocks though:

http://immortal.tomsk.ru/title.jpg

Abbath (LH) sez so!

Ayr is a lovely little northern seaside town, I think, and not grim at all. South Shields (ie here) is grim in the extreme.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 8 January 2007 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

I like seaside towns much better in the autumn and winter. But then I'm not a big fan of sun or swimming or those other things. And am a big fan of standing on piers staring moodily off into breaking waves and stormy clouds. So go figure.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

Ayr is a southern seaside town where I went to Secondary School as I lived just north of it in a seaside town called Prestwick. Where the smell of sewage was revolting and no locals went in the water because Hunterston sub-nuclear station was just down the road.

Ayr did have a nice beach though. But generally it was non-locals to be found in the water.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 8 January 2007 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

That's the case at most seaside towns, though, I think.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 8 January 2007 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

non-sane to be found in the water anywhere off the coast of the UK, more like. "argh my bits have shrunk to the size of a pea!" "haha serves you right you lunatic"

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 8 January 2007 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

Because beaches here are minging.
x-post

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 8 January 2007 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

It's not the beaches that are minging, but the British on them. That's why I prefer them during the off season, when almost nobody is on them.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

It's the water here that's a bit minging - it's the colour of cold tea. Look at Hull on Google for a colour guide.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 8 January 2007 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

That's suppose to be Hull? Where is The Deep?

Also, the water seems like a bit of a patchwork to me. Some of it is brown, some of it is blue.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

It's only brown near the coast! (but that IS brown. And I like brown. Just not brown water)

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 8 January 2007 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

The blue bits are a) the docks, which are dredged b) the open water, which is a different photo at much lower res.

The Deep is the oddly-shaped building at the right-hand side of the river mouth, I think.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 8 January 2007 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I see it. It sticks out somewhat into the river.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

I like Shields beach!

The Minchellas!

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 8 January 2007 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

(the Boots Of Sex are still rather distracting, incidentally. Knee length, leather, heels, buttons up the side)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 8 January 2007 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

The Minchella's ice cream thing is still going, and the ice cream is still excellent, I'm told. (casein-free diet = no more ice cream :( )

Less good are the charvers and the gangland drug executions, though.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 8 January 2007 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

FP, you're going to wind up with a sexual harrassment suit if you're not more careful at work.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

For looking at boots?

― onimo (onimo), Monday, 8 January 2007 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, well, it didn't end at looking the last few times, did it?

Anyway, whatever, I've turned into one of those horrible shrewish old women who thinks because they've never had sex again, no one else should, either. :-(

Or maybe that speed dating thread is just too depressing. Argh. I don't know. Everything is a bit rubbish at the moment.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Hey! I've only slept with *one* colleague. After she had dropped a *lot* of hints about having a certain shared interest.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

Last time we were there (Minchella's), Amber met one of her school friends. By coincidence. (from Reading, Berks. This girl's mum being from Sunderland.)

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 8 January 2007 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/350510319_d90d150c89.jpg?v=0

― Ed (dali), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

I have £56 that is just not recconciling away.

Such a bad head day today. :-(

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Is that £56 over a year?

― Ed (dali), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Well, the past month. Actually, it's more like £49.

The problem is, these little discrepencies are usually indicative of something quite large! And if you ignore them, they will grow and grow until you can no longer ignore them.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

OK, WTF? Two cases with the same number.

I'm glad I investigated it. That's not supposed to happen at all.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Monday, 8 January 2007 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Another year, another ruble. Argh.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 07:00 (nineteen years ago)

And on a completely unrelated note, I advise good people everywhere to download the new Charlotte Hatherley single from fluxblog or watch the video on stereogum.

http://static.last.fm/proposedimages/original/6/2120331/154288.jpg

kthxbye

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 07:48 (nineteen years ago)

Morning, Mitya! Today, I have been annoying an elderly lawyer!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

I am thinking about this.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 08:22 (nineteen years ago)

He loves you, FP, he really loves you!

On one hand, he's over-reacting to what is essentially a questioning and personal post. On the other hand, if I were googling myself and found something like that written about my magnum opus, I'd probably be upset, too.

Ed, you don't want to live in Trenton.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 08:35 (nineteen years ago)

It's hardly his magnum opus, given the other things he's done with his life.

(He doesn't google, he uses AOL Search. I checked.)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 08:39 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh, I got that song last week, Mitya! It is definitely ace.

― g00blar (gooblar), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 09:18 (nineteen years ago)

It's Newark, not Trenton, but they have programs at the NJ-DOT at Trenton, by the Broad street NJT stop, 15 minutes from Penn station. One could live in Brooklyn, by the A or the 2 and be there in less than an hour.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

Today I have been mostly, uh... staring out the window at the sky, trying to think I can be bothered contemplating suicide. Yeah, it's that time of year. I don't expect to see a good mood again until about March. :-(

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 10:39 (nineteen years ago)

How to kill a thread, dead.

God, I just have the reverse Midas touch lately. Everything I touch turns to shite. :-(

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 10:48 (nineteen years ago)

You can tell me if I should go learn about transit in New Jersey.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

You already know that I think that you should go to Scotland to learn about making beer.

Don't do a reverse commute to Newark from the Boroughs; I've done it before and it's HOURS long. And living in New Jersey... ::shudders::

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

I suspect I will have to go to Hoboken some time this year seeing as that is where our new overlords are based.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hoboken? I'm DDDDYYYYYYYINNNNN'!!!

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I should go to Scotland to do a course in brewing.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:06 (nineteen years ago)

Heriot-Watt University in Edinburgh does a masters course in brewing and distilling.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

It does, that's the one we are talking about.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

You couldn't do a masters piss up in a brewery?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:17 (nineteen years ago)

Living in Jersey=not so bad.
Reverse commute=pretty bad.

― g00blar (gooblar), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

Living in Hoboken would be pretty cool. But Newark ... bleurgh! No thanks.

I don't know why the reverse commute is so bad. I did it for about 3 months in 199...6? 7? You wouldn't think it would take an hour and a half to get from Queens to Newark, but somehow it did.

I think it's like those bits of South London that you can't get to from other parts of South London without getting through Central London.

Nobody cares about duels. Or 18th Century coffeehouses. :-(

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

Where would one live in Newark or the surroundings?

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

You could actually live in Newark now. There's a bunch of posh-ish new waterfront developments that look pretty excellent. Not sure how expensive, but I'd guess still cheaper than Hoboken.

I'd probably call A-ron Hubbard to thread, but there's definitely good bits of JC to live in.

― g00blar (gooblar), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:26 (nineteen years ago)

I shall revive on one the Jersey threads shortly.

Hell's Kitchen in Manhattan is a possibility.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

Hoboken is expensive now? Sheesh! Shows how long I've been away.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

You could live on the west side and get to work this-a-ways.

xpost Hoboken more expensive than much of Brooklyn now.

― g00blar (gooblar), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

When I lived in NYC, LIC was still unknown and cheap.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

Ferries be spendy though, and I'd still need to get the NJT at the other end.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

Crikey, those ferries are expensive. I took the Hunters Point one when they first started it, coz it was free as a taster. But then they whacked up the fares!

NYC's river system is confusing as fuck.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

Kate, have you watched the Charlotte Hatherley video yet? She and her groovy guitar will certainly cheer you up.

I have already weighed in on the NJ debate, and can only second the anti-reverse commute votes.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

Video does not work on my computer. Repeat to fade.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

Basically, one would have to live near the PATH, Penn station, or A,2,3 subway (E for the QNS). PATH is less attractive due to fares. living in NY would mean $150 travelling, NJ $76 plus going to NY money.

So living spots would be Newark, Hoboken, Hell's Kitchen/Midtown West, Upper West Side, DUMBO, Clinton heights, Fort Green Park, Bed Stuy, Park Slope. (I have left out Tribeca, Greenwich village, Chelsea, and west soho due to my inability to shit gold bricks)

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

You could go and revive one of the "where to live in NYC/NJ area" threads, maybe. They could give much more useful and up to date information.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

I will, when they are awake.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

I drove past Newark the other day. Not that one, though.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

Gold bricks would be unnecessary if the dollar falls below $2.20 to the pound over the next 6 months.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

Then fear not, Ed.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

Will you pop round and tell putin to 1) stopper more oil pipelines, 2) order more russian companies to float in London, thanks.

Talking of which, we're trying to arrange a visit to a dealer and some prospective customers in Moscow shortly, so hopefully we can pop round together and drink a beer with him. (or with each other if he's not in)

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

More flotations on the way, Ed, fear not, no need to bother Vladimir Vladimirovich with that.

As to the pipelines, it's no so easy, as hardball has already been played with the Ukrainians and the Georgians, and they haven't got the China/Japan ones built yet, so it's too soon to be waving any clubs in that direction.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

the pound seems to be very sensitive to the oil price, it tracks up when the oil price does, I guess because we have more production/exploration companies listed in London than anywhere else, and we sell the stuff, (although not a net seller any more).

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

this thread has become something of a busman's holiday for me all of a sudden!

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

That's a cliff richard film, right?

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, like every housing market and mortgages thread ever?

I'm far more interested in the Habsburg Chin at the moment.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

Hi everyone. I have nothing to add on NY living arrangements, so here's a picture of a ship sailing into New York Harbour.

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/161361main_image_feature_682_ys_4.jpg

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

Much better. Though that looks kinda like one of Columbus' ships, in which case, it's flying the wrong flags.

I cannot believe that I have forgotten the name of Columbus' ships. Was one of them called the Maria? Or the Santa Ana?

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

Close - the Nina, the Pinta and the Santa Maria.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

It's a replica of this ship:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godspeed_%28ship%29

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

Argh, my ship chronology is about 100 years out of date! Bad me.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

Virginia, the we were here first state.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

Alas, poor Roanoke. The Carolinas was robbed...

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

You don't get prizes for giving up.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

They didn't give up! They just... VANISHSED!!! Mysterious.

Anyway, let's go to this in September. Even better than Morris Dancing.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

Women watching that is probably worse than them morris dancing.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, Roanoke was actually in Virginia at the time of its settling. So they were still first. Which brings me to the next Thackeray book I'm going to have to tackle.

x-post the Morris Association permits womenfolk morris dancing, so hush yr mouth.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

The morris association may permit it but the balance of the universe is upset. Female morris dancers are the cause of global warming.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

So not budget airlines and conspicuous consumption of oil, then?

Blame women, always. Sheesh.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Is it raining? If not I'm going for a walk. Sigh.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

Ominous but dry.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

It was sort of spitty. Very grey and foreboding. Just the sort of weather for sitting in the park and crying.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

better to keep sitting so the rain washes your tears away

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

Does nothing for the sniffles, though. :-(

I've had this terrible sense of mortality in relation to mine own isolation lately. I can't be that scared of tiny minor outpatient surgery that I'm having tomorrow. But it's more this sense that illness reinforces how basically alone you are. That sense of "what if something went wrong? Who would I actually call?" And suddenly that panicked feeling of knowing that I have no close relations in this country. My mum said, the other week, "actually, the last 'in case of emergency' number I have for you" turned out to be someone who moved to the States last year. It's an awful sense.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Hm, I think I've fell asleep at my desk, because I notice now that it's 5pm. I can almost go home, maybe, in a couple of hours.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

Can't help you on this one, Kate, as there are no "in case of emergency" numbers in my life, either way.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

This is one of the few awful things about living alone. I've always done this, every time I've lived by myself. Got into these awful fantasies about "if I just dropped dead, how long would it take for someone to find my body?"

The last time I was seriously ill, I was kind of blindsided by it, and then really worried by how it reinforced how alone I was. Now I know I'm going to be incapacitated for some time, and it's hard to find someone to check in on me. People be busy. And I'm trying to be subtle because I don't want it to sound like emotional blackmail and all "would someone mind checking on me to MAKE SURE I'M STILL BREATHING?!?!?" because it's not that much of a drama.

But still, it's things like that. Filling in my pensions form, and wondering who on earth to put in as the beneficiary if I die. Really brings it home.

I wouldn't be thinking like this, if I weren't depressed in the first place. But still, they're valid concerned, I guess. A lot of people got to be in the same boat, especially as the country ages. :-(

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

I've recently had to change pension schemes and put my Mum as my beneficiary whilst at the same time musing on the fact that while I obviously don't want her to die at the same time I don't want to die before her...weird.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I put my mum, too. But as long lived as her side of the family are, it's unlikely that she'll outlive me, given natural deaths on both our parts.

Who else am I gonna put? My brother? A drop in the bucket to his Spam Fortune? Like he'd even get on a plane to sort out my estate?

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

I've never been an executor, but I was with my Mum all the time she sorted that kind of stuff out for my Dad and whilst the whole business was obv. very harrowing at the same time I kind of feel relieved that at least I know what I have to do when the time comes.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

I think my brother is my mum's executor, though I don't see that leading to anything but trouble. Except for the Living Will, which she made me in charge of, as, I guess, as frightening as it sounds, I've got slightly more a conscience than he does.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

I suppose now I am a home owner I should make a will.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

I don't see the point of making a will, as I've got no heirs! I couldn't even leave the house to the cat, as I've not got a cat.

I suppose I should pick the friend I've known the longest and trust the most and leave her a random flat in London.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

I've always got an eye out for you. Sorry I'm not around post-op.

Beardy archer?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/127/351683195_459dec6d5b.jpg?v=0

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, Ed, but I'm not going to leave you my flat. You hate South London! ;-)

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

Tis true, tis true.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Also, the oven does not work.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Never look a gift flat in the oven.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Is that Dominic Diamond with the bow?

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

taking aim at the disembodied head of Patrick Moore, no doubt.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

So. If you were a table full of complaints, what would you be called?

Something simple and obvious like "complaints" perhaps?

Nooooooo... I've no idea.

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

tblFuckers

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

I just had to remember a "security question answer" to do a password reset.

The question I picked when we signed up? "Wibble?", apparently.

I'm amazed, I got the answer right first time. Either that or their password reset security is broken.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Not "compliance". I mean, honestly, who names these things?

― Do Not Feed The Crush (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

woo just got invited to a wedding in tel aviv!

― emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Tel Aviv? Blimey!

Right, I have set up mine Out Of Office Assistant (I always get in trouble for leaving rude messages on it but this one is particularly LEAVE ME ALONE AND DON'T EVEN THINK OF PESTERING ME so I'm sure someone will try to make me change it if I don't get out of the office before anyone sees it) and I am going.

Tomorrow I go to have the goo sucked out of my wrist. And hope that it is just goo.

Please try not to break my thread while I'm away. And if you talk about football I WILL KNOW.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Good luck, K8!

― g00blar (gooblar), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

I'll be thinking of you tomorrow Kate.

We're taking Alice for her hearing test tomorrow, the first of what seems like a million medical appointments, routine and otherwise. And this is just in the first three months of her life :(

― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

...so since the kat(e) is away, how will we mice be playing today? nice, i hope.

Here is today's Chaz pic:
http://www.charlottehatherley.com/uploads/photos/12.jpg

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 07:54 (nineteen years ago)

hot and touselled

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 08:04 (nineteen years ago)

and 18, i think

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 08:17 (nineteen years ago)

I always play nice!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 08:20 (nineteen years ago)

^^^football

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 08:22 (nineteen years ago)

good luck for an absent kate!

*looks around at shiny new iLX. oooh!*

― carson dial (carson dial), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 08:24 (nineteen years ago)

Hello Ian! We've missed you!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 08:25 (nineteen years ago)

Awww. Beware, I've have been without sleep for 36 hours, and I was in a fragile emotional state before that anyway. I have been running around work manically since they opened the doors at 7am.

And I still have Bowie's 'Magic Dance' in my head. woohoo!

― carson dial (carson dial), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in an apprehensive mood, because I got an annoying letter frm HMRC yesterday. "We don't have any record of you paying National Insurance [since you started your current job]". Arse.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 08:39 (nineteen years ago)

Eeep! That is a little worrying, indeed. Company or Her Majesty's error, I wonder?

― carson dial (carson dial), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 08:46 (nineteen years ago)

I've just seen The Manager about it - he's also the company accountant. His response:

"Fucking useless! They're a shambles! They never get anything right! Nearly everyone in the company gets letters saying they've underpaid. Send them a copy of your P60."

So, that should be OK then.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 08:49 (nineteen years ago)

Hi all! I'm sending happy goovibes to kate.

(more pics of CH please, she's yummier than I remember. Not too many though, I have a feeling that overexposure could lead to de-hottifying her)

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 08:59 (nineteen years ago)

morning! accidental and quite late lie-in. so last night we went to see HEADLESS and they were lovely, four girls looking wispy/stylish and about 17 and girly-girly, then this barrage of WWAAAARRRGGGHHHH yelling and aggression and really really good guitars. and before them were LOST PENGUIN. my favourite thing about them was that their machines kept malfunctioning and when they broke and while they were trying to fix them, no one could tell if they were still just fiddling around trying to make it work or if, you know, it was meant to sound like that. happy days.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:22 (nineteen years ago)

wispy girls + WWAAAARRRGGGHHHH = possibly ace. I'll listen to the myspace later. What machines did Lost Penguin have? (worst band I've heard for aaaaages, btw)

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

You don't mean 'worst band name', do you? 'Cause I was thinking just the opposite..

― g00blar (gooblar), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

Worst band name, yes, sorry.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

I think I probably like it because I heard it (IN MY HEAD) said in emsk's Welsh accent.

― g00blar (gooblar), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

emsk is welsh?

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

She is, but we have forgiven her for it.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

oi! fuckers. i'll bow an' arrer you.

couldn't really see lost penguin's equipment, there were lots of tall people there and i couldn't really be arsed trying to get any further in. there was def something up with a drum machine, and lots of "press play. just press play!" which made me giggle.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

Let's take it to cheshire and see who end's up on the end of a pointy stick.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

That's ok, emsk (i mean, emskwyn) welsh is cool with me. my only cultural associations are with voyage of the susan cooper books and the manics and a random road trip there i did after my first stint in europe.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

err, that was supposed to be "cultural assocations are with the susan cooper books"

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

aren't those books in cornwall though? i have MASSIVE LOVE for susan cooper and remember reading them for the first time and the names of places sounding welsh but not being, or not being most of the time.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

Emsk, I got my favourite letter of the year today, did you get yours?

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

i got mine yesterday!

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

Books 1 and 3 are in Cornwall; 2 is on the Buckinghamshire/Berkshire borders, and 4 and 5 are almost entirely in Wales, in the area between the Dyfi and Mawddach estuaries.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

emskwyn ha ha ha tho I don't think she's got that much of a welshish accent, tbh.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

wanna read them again... lent mine to a mate like three years ago... wonder if she still has it.

also i am trying to make friends with you all in the watercooler group in last.fm but it seems not to be working, i click on whoever and add to friends, but nothing happens. how do i shot friends?

xpost well it's been 12 and a half years since i lived there so...

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

Man i love those books. can't wait to introduce alice to them.

sorry if my every post mentions a***e... but these baby creatures are kind of all-consuming. and yet very boring, no doubt.

― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think she's got that much of a welshish accent, tbh

I do!

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

hey archel! not boring in the slightest... she is hella cuet. how did her hearing test go, or is that later?

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

oh, last.fm is working now.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

who are you on last.fm emsk? this person?

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

yip

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yeh, she is v cute. Keep us up to date! xpost.

I guess emsk's intonations are a bit welsh, but that's about it. I don't think it's SOOO noticeable (not so noticeable that I would know she welsh just from hearing her). I've been told that I sound a bit welsh, though again, I've no idea how.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Some people seem to love to live under the delusion I am Welsh. I'm not.

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

Why do people think you're welsh? Or why do you think people think you're welsh?

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

people often think i am scandinavian. i've been eastern european, irish, south american and a few other things too. i don't really get it...

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

It's probably my name that tips them off.

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

(I have a Welsh name despite no actual Welsh creds)

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Because Tissp has a welsh name?
x-posts

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

No one ever visits the watercooler on last fm. I think it's because the twee huggers have made B&S top of the group charts every week.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

I sent my reply back by return. I am k-excited.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

I think that whole B&S thing is quite telling. I don't even really like them that much but they chart high wherever ILXers are.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

also i am trying to make friends with you all in the watercooler group in last.fm

ohhh it's YOU!

I sent you a friend request on OKCupid a while back - did you get it?

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

It's all his ^ fault.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

ed which ones did you go for? i haven't decided yet but called immediately for my crb check stuff.

fp yep i got it, and accepted - it took forever bc i didn't log in for like 2 months. sorry!

i promise not to play any b&s. this week is mostly all about lily allen anyway (christmas present from flatmate! woo! she is gonna hate that record so much by the end of january...)

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

now i am going to buy new shoes. mine have holes in :(

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

I am going for the summer. I want to walk with Z!33y or go to the hebredies with @ndy or sail with D@v3 or got to yorkshire with L0tt!3. In that order.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

FP can you go without B&S for a month?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

I can't be the only one who read that as BDSM, surely?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

I think the answer's no either way.

― onimo (onimo), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Last.fm group charts only count "people who have played this band", not "number of times this band has been played". So I'm only partially responsible for B&S being at the top!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

I can't be the only one who read that as BDSM, surely?

He would have to be a masochist to give that up.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

Who is almodis in the watercooler last fm group?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

This is me incase anyone doesn't know.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

I'm no masochist

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Who is almodis in the watercooler last fm group?

yes, my question exactly. I look at the group members and think to myself, "Some of these people must be in the wrong place."

(and, kerr, FP is right - that's what i find so interesting - the fact that when you get a bunch of ilxors together, it seems like the "most common" thing among them is B&S (of all things).

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

As a twee fuck, I must hold my hands up and claim responsibility for B&S, Nick Drake and Aphex Twin.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

it seems like the "most common" thing among them is B&S (of all things)

well a load of them did migrate here from Sinister so it's not that surprising

― onimo (onimo), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

but wasn't that, like, years ago?

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Onimo, did you delete your last fm account? You disappeared from my friends list and theres no record of you ever being there.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Onimo do you remember The Mighty Lemon Drops? ;)

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/353008547_c04a16bc02.jpg?v=0

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

When I see a list with Morrissey, Yo La Tengo, The Flaming Lips and Nick sodding Drake in it, the first question to my lips is not "what's the story with the Belle & Sebastian?"

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

YMOF the voice of reason.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

If people migrated here from Sinister, that doesn't mean they handed in their B&S-liking credentials in at the door. B&S have actually got better as Sinister has got worse.

I'm going to Spain tomorrow!

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Tough life. :) Eat some tapas for us!

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

Hurrah, Eat morcilla and manchego curado,in fact just eat.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

Watch some Spanish ball-sports too!

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Jai Alai.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Is that the one (a bit like Petanque) where the ball can travel at over 200 mph? I gather it's a sort of hardcore lacrosse, no?

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

I shall be eating manchego aplenty. And drinking. Spanish sports, not so much. Just going to be nice to my Dad for his birthday (which will involve eating and drinking a lot, I'm fairly sure).

― ailsa (ailsa), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

Have just looked at weather forecast for tomorrow morning as it is tremendously windy right now and I don't want blown off the runway. It's going to SNOW here tomorrow, just as I am leaving for warmer climes. Hurrah!

― ailsa (ailsa), Thursday, 11 January 2007 00:57 (nineteen years ago)

good morning good morning good

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 11 January 2007 06:59 (nineteen years ago)

Whats wrong with Flaming Lips, Yo La Tengo and Nick Drake?!

Hey Mitya.
The stormy weather woke me up just before 6 and I can't get back to sleep.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 11 January 2007 07:05 (nineteen years ago)

Hi all, also windy in Oxford. It's hairy on the 2nd floor with the wind blowing around the windows, so goodness knows what it's like for any high-rise workers today.

And what's wrong with Morrissey? Saying that, the watercooler charts by artist aren't as good as the charts by album, where I've discovered some awfully cool stuff this last 6 months or so.

Is Kate back today from being upgraded?

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 11 January 2007 09:34 (nineteen years ago)

What?

(can't hear you over the wind)

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 11 January 2007 09:40 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning. I've not been upgraded as yet...

OK, Guy's Hospital is the biggest and most confusingest hospital in the world. It's a million atriums and buildings and a SKYSCRAPER all built together and very lost-making. So I spent most of the morning wandering around lost trying to find which floor of the tower Radiology was on.

Anyway, so I went to the doctor and he looked at my lump, and I told him I was worried about it, because even though it was just a ganglion bursa (apparently), my mum had a TUMOUR. So he said, to put our minds at rest, let's send you off for some X-rays.

yay, X-rays, I don't know why I like them so much. It just makes me feel like Madame Curie, though I didn't have to wear a lead vest this time. And I swear, it may be psychosomatic, but I could tell when the machine was on because my hand tingled.

Anyway, back down through the hospital and I'm looking at my Xrays which are SOOO COOOL because you have to carry them with yourself. I mean, that's not very safe is it? I could have drawn smiley faces all over my bones. But I couldn't see anything wrong - certainly no tumours.

Got back and gave them to the Doctor and he made that "oh dear" frowny face that they make when something is Terribly Wrong. And he asked me, had I ever injured my hand. And I told him that I had had it badly sprained possibly broken about 3 or 4 years ago (during my rock'n'roll excess years). But he said "you said you started having problems with it when you 25, anything before that?"

And I thought about it, and couldn't think of anything - the lump just APPEARED one day when I was doing a lot of hardcore data entry. I thought it was a bone popped out when it first appeared.

But then I thought a little harder... when I was about 20, I was working as a temp entering fingerprints into the NYS DCJS. I remember that I was sacked under terrible circumstances and had to take them to an employment tribunal, but I had forgotten the circumstances. I took a bad fall and the brunt ended up on my wrist, which was sore for weeks. (I never got it X-rayed because I had no health insurance.) I remember complaining about how much data entry hurt, and asking repeatedly to be moved to a less repetative job. They ignored me, and sacked me when I could no longer keep up the pace.

I've always thought that my wrist problems were down to RSI - but the doctor said no, there was a long-standing injury which had never healed correctly, and 16 years seemed about the right timescale given the amount of damage.

FUUUUUUUUUUCK!

What's amazing to me, is that in 16 years of wrist problems, I've never had an X-ray before. Not sure if that's the fault of having had no insurance for so long, or my own laziness, or doctors just ignoring my complaints because I have such an RSI lifestyle.

Anyway, I've got to go back and have the tests where they inject you with RADIOACTIVE ISOTOPES which is just about the coolest thing in the world ever, to see if there's "arthritis" (I asked him what he meant, and he said if the joint was worn out."

That he wasn't going to drain the bursa, because 1) if it's caused by an injury, it would just keep coming back and 2) because that's not what is causing the pain.

He did this thing where me put his thumb in my wrist and kind of moved my hand about, and on the left hand, it just went click-click like it was supposed to, and on the right hand it went flop-flop OOOUUUUUUCCCCCCHHHHH!!!

So I'm not sure how they treat arthritis, if that's what it is (for gods sake! I'm too young for arthritis!) - or if I need proper surgery instead of the StickABigNeedleIn kind.

I'm really not keen to have major surgery on my hand, because that puts you out of commission for MONTHS and you have to have physical therapy to get it back working the way it should. And I'm worried about losing the mobility I need to play piano and guitar and things. argh.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

I had surgery for a "ganglion cyst" on my wrist. Turned out to be a false aneurysm.

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Thursday, 11 January 2007 10:33 (nineteen years ago)

An archaeologist friend got Arthritis of the knees by the age of 24, this is fairly common in jobs which involve kneeling in cold damp wet holes.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 11 January 2007 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

I thought I'd would be out for a long time, too, but it was surprising how quickly I recovered, so I wouldn't worry too much--especially given that it will only get worse if it doesn't get sorted :(

xpost

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Thursday, 11 January 2007 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

Morning all. Wow I need to sleep.

Alice's right ear is perfect, they couldn't get a clear response on her left (very common) so we have to go back for a different test with promisingly named audiologist R0b L0we...

xpost: complex stuff Kate! Isotopes sound fun. You realise you had the perfect opportunity for the 'will I be able to play the piano doctor? That's amazing, I couldn't before' joke?

Anyway, I hope you can get treated without big scary surgery.

― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 11 January 2007 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

That's one of the reasons I decided to avoid professional field archaeology, Ed.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 11 January 2007 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

I've been googling about arthritis (which seems to be about 200 different problems and diseases all lumped in together, which isn't helpful) and about ganglion cysts. It all seems to be kind of related, as ganglions are a common symptom of RSI. So who knows! I'm more confused now, than when before I looked it up!

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 10:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, the wind. Argh! Which reminds me - was that a dream that I was woken up by my brother telling me he was booking me a hotel room in Paris. I should email him or something.

Also, grrr, we've had an estate agents sign just APPEAR on our building without anything being sold or let. That's another thread, methinks. They said only the Freeholder could complain about it - bloody hell, the Freeholder doesn't have to LOOK at the ugly lime green thing. Can I complain to the council or something?

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

If no one is buying, selling or renting then they are vandalising your building, which reminds me, I need to complain to the two estate agents who still have signs on the front of my building, 6 months after the flats were sold.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 11 January 2007 11:09 (nineteen years ago)

Also, you could just ring up or get someone else to ring up claiming to be the free holder or his/her secretary and get it removed.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 11 January 2007 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

Also it is trespass.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 11 January 2007 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

I have started a thread about it:

Like Mushrooms After The Rain - Estate Agents Boards

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

Onimo, did you delete your last fm account? You disappeared from my friends list and theres no record of you ever being there.

Yes. It wasn't scrobbling properly and I was going to reinstall and start again then I figured out that I didn't need a piece of software to tell me what I had been listening to as I'd been, well, listening to it. So I deleted the account.

All my attempts to get Rapeman top of the Watercooler charts failed miserably anyway.

― onimo (onimo), Thursday, 11 January 2007 11:15 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and yes, I remember The Mighty Lemon Drops :)

I decided to give them a listen last night after that thread. The first two albums have their good points but most of it is boring sub-Bunnymen samey samey rubbish. They had grebt pointy boots all the same.

― onimo (onimo), Thursday, 11 January 2007 11:17 (nineteen years ago)

How much pain are you in, K8? Constant wrist pain? When typing? Playing guitar? Or is this just something you've been meaning to get taken care of for a while?

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 11 January 2007 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

No, it's not constant, but it's started to interfere with things. I've got a wrist rest at work, so typing isn't too hard on it. It's painful to type on the laptop for long periods of time. Playing guitar - especially rhthym guitar - can get pretty painful for more than about 5 minutes. (Could never do Noyfriend more than twice in a row at rehearsals or recording sessions without pain.)

The frustrating thing about it is that I cannot bear any kind of weight on my wrist. Things like getting out of bed or chairs can be painful for my wrist.

And it gets in the way! It's not just cosmetic, having a giant lump sticking out of your wrist can be quite awkward at times.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, a wrist is sort of an important body part! (esp. if your main activities are basically typing and strumming)

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 11 January 2007 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

...and playing piano.

It used to *really* interfere with sexing, too, when I used to do such things. :-(

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

...oh, and writing (long hand) and drawing. Both of which activities I do rather a lot of. An hour's session of diary writing leaves me throbbing. :-(

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

But would could you possibly use your . . . oh, I see.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 11 January 2007 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

Oh geez, writing long hand for more than two minutes is painful even for me, and I ain't got no lump in the wrist.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 11 January 2007 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

I never had a problem with writing before. It's a matter of practise and your wrists being used to it. I used to love both writing and drawing.

I should try to learn how to manipulate my mouse with my other hand.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

I should try to learn how to manipulate my mouse with my other hand.

This is my new favourite euphemism for wanking.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha ha, I didn't even think about that. For shame.

It's really aching today. Don't know if that's because I'm thinking about it, or because it was examined so much yesterday, or because I played piano for several hours last night. :-(

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.playtime-paradise.co.uk/cards/kontlikkers_small.jpg

― onimo (onimo), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

"played piano"

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, I'm just a watercooler of filth today.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

I was totally gonna make that same joke jb! Thought better of it, tho.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

You know, of all the things that I thought having a wrist operation would interfere with, wanking was not actually one of them. :-(

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

morning, or technically.....afternoon

Your hand saga sounds complex, Kate. I hope the radiation reveals nowt serious - when is the radiation? (btw - I'm still here....I know, I know....)

Reasons to be cheerful :

1. New Doc Martens arrived in the post via ebay. Nice! Now to look forward to weeks of bloody heels as I break them in.

2. I'm playing darts tonight - yes!

Reasons to be glum

1. Marshall have lost my footswitch that they are repairing. Marshall : "It was posted to you the week before Christmas, are you sure you didn't get it?" Me : "@1??@$@@??"

2. I might need another X-Ray - how topical. There is something still wrong with my ribs - when I run it's like there's sandpaper rubbing in my chest with the occasional sharp pain.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

I've no idea when it is! they will send me an appointment - could be weeks. :-(

But argh, yeah, sandpaper in the chest is not a good sensation. Get that x-rayed. And then post to the x-ray thread about it!

Stupid fuX0rs, losing things. "Are you sure you didn't get it?" Why the fuck would you be ringing up about it if you'd already had it?

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

"Ah the FOOTSWITCH, why yes... it's HERE! I never noticed it before, my mistake. Sorry for wasting your valuable time Mr. Marshall"

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

What should I eat for lunch? I didn't preplan anything, as I didn't think I'd be at work. Squeaky cheese? Noodles? Something different?

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

Bombay potato, I reckon. Good for wrists.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

What on earth is a Bombay Potato?

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.michaels-wholefoods.co.uk/Pataks/CurryBombayPotatoThumb.jpg

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/database/bombaypotato_76547.shtml

aka Bombay Aloo

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not aware of any good curry places around here. I guess I'll have squeaky cheese.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

I guess we should be calling it Mumbai Potato.

Waitrose does Bombay potato wraps, if there's a Waitrose where u are.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 11 January 2007 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

YES BUT WHY GOOD FOR WRIST???

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 11 January 2007 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

The nearest Waitrose is inside the EEZOHAD.

But it has a lot of carbs and not a lot of protein, so not good for keeping focused at work, methinks.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

That "Bombay Potato" recipe is awfully similar to some cajun potato thing I cribbed from Paul Prodhomme before I was even in college.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 11 January 2007 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

(Hi K8 ;)

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 11 January 2007 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

just came home for lunch and three CDs arrived.

the Oldham tinkers-For Old Time's Sake
Deep Lancashire (a folk compilation)
Fresh Maggots - Hatched

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 11 January 2007 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, Mitya!

Squeaky cheese it was in the end.

But that reminds me - I made the best soup in the world yesterday! I had bought all these chopped up vegetables because I did not think I would be able to chop. So I started it with friend onions, then boiled with soy sauce, pepper and Chinese 5 Spice - carrots and swede, leek and cabbage and baby bok choi leaves. Poached an egg on top of it, then consumed. Yum!

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds good, it's missing parsnips.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 11 January 2007 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

OTM. soup+parsnips = better soup. Unless it was parsnip soup to start with, in which case you just get more soup! Hurrah!

I had sushi. It was nice. Now drinking Tropical Fruit Tropicana. Am soon to go and buy a pack of chocolate digestive biscuits from the garage because I have suddenly developed a craving for them.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 11 January 2007 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, parsnips would have been good, but I could not get pre-chopped parsnips at the time.

Ha ha, FRIED onions. Not Friend Onions. Though onions are my friends.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

I can't think of a bad thing about onions. I think they're my favourite vegetable.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 11 January 2007 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

There is very little in the savory way that onions cannot improve.

Oh! That reminds me, I chopped the last of my mum's spring onions into the soup, as well.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

how is the oldham tinkers cd? when was it recorded?

malaise has set in

― Storefront Church (688), Thursday, 11 January 2007 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Is this actually a recording of actual Tinkers, or is it just a bunch of Oldhamites pretending to be tinkers singing folk songs?

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.myspace.com/theoldhamtinkers

― Storefront Church (688), Thursday, 11 January 2007 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

Those are not actual tinkers!

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

This one was 1975. Nice recording too.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 11 January 2007 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

I am totally craving doughnuts, millionaires shortbread, flapjacks, all kinds of CRAP today. Why do I want this rubbish? Specifically because I've told myself I'm not having any until the weekend? Come on, can't you wait two days, cravings?

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

I just bought a packet of chocolate hob nobs which are currently doing the rounds. I shall munch them with my coffee, it'll be brilliant.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Donuts can't wait.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Come Join the London Canals Flickr Group.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

I don't do Flickr any more.

I mean, it's kind of pointless for me, as I've not got a camera. And also, I kind of got very disillusioned with people who just want to use it to portray their life as glamourous.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't uploaded to Flickr for ages, largely because all my photos were either a) uninteresting to the world b) of me (see a) c) too rude.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

I've grown really disillusioned with a lot of these web 2.0 sites. They're really great when you first discover them, but after a while, unless you have a specific interest, they're a bit tedious, aren't they?

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Yup. I don't think there's any that I use regularly. Apart from Google Maps, and we had a whole thread about how rubbish that one is.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, the bloke behind me is desribing gout! That sounds like a horrible disease to have!

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Why can't you book in advance on Eurostar? Are they going to put hte prices up over the summer or something? I'm trying to investigate fares and availability in early June, and it won't let me!

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Standard for railways is no more than 90s in advance.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

You can normally only book trains up to four months in advance, I think.

(xpost)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

i love flickr. its my favourite site now

i dont look at glamourous things, or even aspiring-glamourous things though. i look at pictures of nacogdoches and deming

― Storefront Church (688), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

90 days sorry.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Argh. Well, those random donuts cravings have now been explained.

Out of nowhere! Not on any schedule that I can detect! I'm off to get some chocolate or something.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Ah well, does anyone who does Eurostar on any regular basis know - is it cheaper on weekdays or weekends, or does it not matter?

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

I do like Flickr's map, because it's nice to see who's been taking photos in your area.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

Cheapest midweek, midday. Saturday evenings. But you should be able to get the cheapest fares on any train provided you get in around the 90 day mark.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks - I'm really just trying to plan to have the lowest traffic train to save stress. Out Saturday evening and back Tuesday or Wednesday midday would be perfect for me.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

I am liking this "home by 7" stuff. Today I bought a pistachio eclair at the "french bakery" by my metro station.

But now I want a long weekend in Paris, too.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

Only three days away by train.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

Is Russia 3 days by train from France? Could one take the Orient Express? That would be fun!

(I am going to meet my brother - it's not exactly a pleasure jaunt to romantic Paris or anything.)

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, three days sounds about right. The Orient Express would be a little inconvenient because it would go south to Istanbul, and then you'd have the nasty ol' Black Sea in between you and Russia.

Anyway, travelling is always fun in my book, especially by train, even if you do have to see members of your family at one end or the other.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 11 January 2007 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really like travelling that much any more. I suppose I did rather too much of it when I was younger. This is a very odd and un-"me" statement, I know.

Anyway, I've just been reading the old Dr. Who thread, and Ailsa, if I'd been drinking tea, it would have been all over the screen at this:

Yeah, the glasses were k-rowr :)

We fell about at the "am I ginger" bit because he is TOTALLY ginger - I think he's dying it somewhat these days though. He should be a ginger Scottish doctor in a kilt, but I think Kate may just have exploded if that had been the case :)

-- ailsa (ailsa_watson7...), December 29th, 2005 12:44 PM. (ailsa)

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 11 January 2007 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

I sometimes if computer programmers ever travel on the Object-Oriented Express.

(OK, that was a lie. I don't.)

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 11 January 2007 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

Not enough darts last night due to boardclash, but played pool with some suit-wearing city mockneys.

I am ashamed to say that I have already broken a new years resolution.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 12 January 2007 09:43 (nineteen years ago)

How many hamsters have to suffer before you clean yourself up?

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Friday, 12 January 2007 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

Morning there. I was at a model railway group meeting last night. Great fun.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

x-post no it wasn't hamsters

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:19 (nineteen years ago)

In windows how do I do a screengrab of the whole screen, I have forgotten.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:19 (nineteen years ago)

press Alt and Print screen together, then paste.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

gerbils? xp

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:23 (nineteen years ago)

not the gerbils, no.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:26 (nineteen years ago)

For the love of God, not the marmosets?

http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/a/z/azh112/2%20pygmy%20marmoset.jpg

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:28 (nineteen years ago)

A set of marmos.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

"whole screen screenshot" is just Print Screen on its own. Alt+Print Screen is "current window screenshot".

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

worse, much worse.....

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

I hope your broken new year's resolution wasn't anything to do with Beryl.

― C J (C J), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:36 (nineteen years ago)

I think we are overdue a Beryl update.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:38 (nineteen years ago)

Yes! Has she resolved the falling-out she had with her best friend? I need to know.

― C J (C J), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

I 'aven't seen her this mornin', d'you foller me?

No it wasn't anything to do with Beryl. I am going to ask best friend this morning to see what's going on with the pearly queen. It's troubling me.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

Do you think it's allowed to start again with new years rezzys. It's only 12th Jan.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:45 (nineteen years ago)

I do foller yer, pwecious.

Are they still not speaking? Beryl doesn't seem like the sort of person who would stay mad at her friends for long.

(wait, what am I saying? I DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW THIS WOMAN!! The internet has made me go insane)

― C J (C J), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:48 (nineteen years ago)

I decided I wouldn't get started on mine until I get back from holiday next week.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:54 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know whats going on. I'll check it out.

the new years rez that I broke was smoking. I don't smoke much, maybe 3 or 4 over the course of an evening in the pub, never at home. But it was a joint rez with the missus that we would both stop entirely - she smokes more than me, but not loads, maybe 5 a day.

And now I've...(strangled sob)....I've...(blub)....spoiled EVERYTHING!

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 12 January 2007 10:57 (nineteen years ago)

It's a difficult habit to break, so don't be too harsh on yourself AND YOUR TERRIBLE FAILURE.

― C J (C J), Friday, 12 January 2007 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

It is though.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 12 January 2007 11:03 (nineteen years ago)

Why don't you wean yourself off them gradually, rather than trying to go cold turkey? It might be easier if you made a deal with yourself that you could have one cigarette at the end of the day as a 'treat' to look forward to (so you wouldn't feel deprived), and then if you managed without it you'd feel even more positive about that day's achievement. I dunno really, I've never had to give anything up.

― C J (C J), Friday, 12 January 2007 11:11 (nineteen years ago)

OH NOES HOW DID I SLEEP SO LATE!

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 12 January 2007 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

Cos you is a lazy scunner?

― Ed (dali), Friday, 12 January 2007 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

Of course you can start again, Dr C - the resolution should last the whole year, not just the first week, so if you fail at any point, you can just start again.

Also, to make up to the missus for having let her down, buy her a car.

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Friday, 12 January 2007 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

Ed OTM.

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 12 January 2007 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

My resolutions have included being more sociable and not treating friends like fads. 1st one going well, second one less so, worse luck.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Friday, 12 January 2007 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

I can't remember what my New Years Resolutions were! Already!

But I think the smoking thing is like the dieting thing, that even if you fall off the horse, you have to get right back on. You can't slip and say you're slipping forever more, you have to admit you've slipped the once, but not let it ruin the whole thing.

Two of my ex bandmates had very good results with, err, I forget the name of the medication. It sounded like a Star Wars planet. Xyban or Zieban or something like that?

Anyway, I'm back from the other doctor (the head one, not the hand one - if I can get a heart doctor, woo, I've got all 4 H's!) and have resisted being put on more meds. But he still wants to monitor me. And sent me off to a manic depressive's association thing. More exercise! Less carrot cake! In fact, stay off refined sugar and caffeine. More light!

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

Hello Kate :)

Someone should invent a computer monitor which bathes the user in anti-SAD daylight rays.

― C J (C J), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, CJ!

...or I could just peel myself away from the computer at lunchtime and go and walk about in the sunshine, increasing both the exercise and the sunlight quotients.

When there is sunshine, that is.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

We all need orgone accumulatin' hats.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

If I turned up to the doctor wearing an orgone accululation hat, there'd be no question of my refusing meds. ;-)

Ed, that avi reading program you gave me last night didn't work. Wouldn't install. Or rather, once I followed all the instructions to install it, it just wouldn't open or run. :-(

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

It was Zyban. It was explained to me as you know every once in a while you have a cigarette and it isn't a tiny parcel of joy, it's just completely minging? On Zyban, it's like that all the time!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

the one from the cd not the dvd?

― Ed (dali), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

I tried both of them - the one from the CD first. Neither of them worked. What's its name? I'll try downloading it again to my data stick.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

try downloading again from videolan.org

― Ed (dali), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

Shit, I can't remember what version of OSX I have. I knew I should have checked that before I came in. Duh. Stupid happypill doctor, distracting me.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

OMG I just saw the sun! With mine own eyes! It was this bright (very bright) thing in the sky sort of coming out between the clouds? I've heard people talk about it but I never thought I'd get to see it in my own lifetime!

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

Are you sure? I have heard talk of this shining orb, but I think it is WITCHCRAFT!!!

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

There is no sun. Those are just old stories put about by confused old people. Pay them no heed.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

I can't confirm, because it's now gone, but I know in my heart that I saw it. One day I'll tell my Grandkids about this.

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

Methinks Gooblar be mad. Tie him down and bleed him, then forcefeed him strong brown ale until he stops this nonsense.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

Methinks Gooblar be ~~mad~~ SAD

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 12 January 2007 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

JB, you have a SAD lamp, don't you? Is it any good? My happypill doctor suggested one.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

damnit I can't find the serious cat pic. Can someone help?

― Ed (dali), Friday, 12 January 2007 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m134/johnjusten/serious_cat.jpg

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

panic over, found it, truly the internet is for cat pictures.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 12 January 2007 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

As compared to:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/160/353915371_2cf7487dbf.jpg

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.acc.umu.se/~zqad/cats/1161392907739.jpg

Doh.

(just to show that I found it too.)

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 12 January 2007 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

I forced myself to go for a long run at lunchtime as penance - feel better now, and no sandpaper lung this time.

The thing is I can go for ages without smoking, but there are certain situations where I usually smoke a few (pub, gigs, with certain people who also smoke)and that's what happened last night. One of my friends just offered me a cig and I just took it without thinking. (Alright I had 2 more so help me god).

At times when I'm v.busy (when am I not?) and don't go out much I can go for a few weeks without one. I did get into the habit of an early morning cig at the bottom of the garden for a while, but that's long gone.

xxxxpost to mark c - she doesn't need a car, she has an OYSTER CARD!

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 12 January 2007 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

Is there anything good on the NUDE ILX thread?

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 12 January 2007 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

Tattoos mostly, including ones around pelvic regions.

― C J (C J), Friday, 12 January 2007 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

Buy her a plate of oysters, then. And, er, maybe they function as an aphrodesiac, too! ;-)

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of oysters, I saw that Ray Mears programme on telly the other day about food which the earliest Britons woulkd have eaten. He was collecting limpets and razorfish and cooking them as our ancestors would have done (baked in the fire embers). They looked disgustingly rubbery.

― C J (C J), Friday, 12 January 2007 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

oysters - noooooooooooooooo

where was Ray Mears? In the UK?

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 12 January 2007 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, but could he fix a hiking boot with a plastic bag and some vines?

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, he was in the UK somewhere (didn't pay enough attention to be able to remember where exactly, but it was coastal).

I'm sure Ray Mears could fix anything - he looks a very practical sort of chap. My husband did comment however that it was a bit amusing to see Ray supposedly living like a stone age man in the wild, but with his nice cosy (and doubtless very expensive) waterproof coat, bobble hat and le chameau wellies.

― C J (C J), Friday, 12 January 2007 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

if he had worn the more realistic animal furs I am sure someone would have complained....

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Friday, 12 January 2007 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

Well yes, you're right.

― C J (C J), Friday, 12 January 2007 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

I have a sudden desire to read Stig of the Dump.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Friday, 12 January 2007 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I should do *something* work related this afternoon. I can't spend the rest of the day reading about the "Glorious" Revolution and the War of Spanish Succession on the interweb all afternoon.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

Now I'm just abusing the random button. Oh lord, preserve me from my boredom.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

What are people's weekend plans?

Mine are :

Tonight : in, I think/hope.
Sat : a.m. watching the boy play rugby. pm vague idea to buy some jeans. There is talk of a cinema trip, but prob kids only. evening - dunno
Sun : nothing much - I want to restring jazzy with some meatier strings and fiddle around with the bridge and tremolo to see how it works. But I will end up doing cooking and helping with homework all day, I bet. Which is fine.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

I have no idea. All plans I made have fallen through. Bloke I was supposed to be doing this recording session has totally flaked out on me. (Again - now I remember why I've not worked with him before.) So I'm doing, uh... nothing. :-(

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

I suppose I might do some recording of mine own tomorrow, but I've been having a hard time getting motivated about it lately. (And when I do, I'm just never quite happy with the results.)

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

GOD I AM SO BORED. MIND DEATH IN T MINUS FIFTEEN MINUTES.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

Ah kate, bless.

Yes, I do have a SADlamp, and it's great. 15 minutes every day while I check my home email account sorts me out like a treat. I can really feel when I don't do it (tired, irritable, generally under the weather) and then I flick back to right as rain again when I start again. Cos I don't really have it that bad (bad enough to notice, but not bad enough to really debilitate me) it makes my quality of life better without really saving my life. For somebody more susceptible to serotonin changes, the lamp WOULD be an absolute life saver.

This is the one I have:

http://i19.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/83/e6/0f20_1.JPG
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SAD-Lite-Pad_W0QQitemZ270078430915QQihZ017QQcategoryZ1279QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

but you may need something a bit more hardcore. Does me superbly though.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight: 80s house party that housemates are throwing. I will need assistance from God to help me through. Either that or happy pills.

Rest of Weekend: Oxfam friends from warwick are coming down Sat night to stay, so quite chilled out the rest of the weekend. I'll be ruined by Sat morning, anyway.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Dr C. It's been a week since I left the country, so tomorrow I am hopping on the Eurostar, TGV, SBB and Matterhorn Gotthard Bahn (née BVZ) to get to Zermatt to go skiing.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh Kate I forgot to mention this earlier although you may have already seen/heard it: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/onyourfarm.shtml

(Alex James talking about his farm at the kind of ungodly hour of the morning that I now get to experience regularly thanks to Alice.)

― Archel (Archel), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I had heard about it! (Read about it on Country Life and, err, here, I think.) But I'm never up at that time of the morning! And I don't have a radio anyway.

But a v. cute picture regardless:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/factual/media/alex_and_adam_resized.JPG

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I plan to have fun tonight and have mopped the floor in preparation.

Kate, You could visit the whittlesea straw bear festival.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Ed, are you on holiday, or working, or....

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I plan to have fun tonight and have mopped the floor in preparation.

I thought I was on the wanking thread, and was understandably alarmed.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, Alex James, why didn't you marry *me* and whisk me off to the country to have babies and make chutney? It just isn't fair!

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Is there actually snow in Zermatt, Ed? I had been planning to go to Austria (yes, I know Z. is in CH) but more or less decided that the weather had been so warm everywhere that there would be no skiing this year for mitya.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Alex James still looks like he should never go anywhere near a suit.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

You are wrong. Alex James in a suit is the hottest thing on earth, proven by science. Or, err, half a dozen extremely drunken members of the AJSAS.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

He looks like he's on remand!

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm on holiday. Zermatt has the highest lifts in europe and you can ski even in summer. Snow all the way down to the resort. Western Alps always cops more snow than the east and Mont Blanc to the Matterhorn most of all.

I want to come to russia and ski at Sochi.

webcams at http://www.zermatt.ch

― Ed (dali), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

I went to Zermatt a few years ago and quite liked it. Just hoping to work my way around the Alps a bit rather than go back to the same place.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 12 January 2007 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Chamonix through to the Engadine are all good right now. I love the Berner Oberland, mainly for its railways.

― Ed (dali), Friday, 12 January 2007 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

Morning all.

Welcome to the working week (except those of you skiing).

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Monday, 15 January 2007 06:26 (nineteen years ago)

Morning, early bird!

― C J (C J), Monday, 15 January 2007 06:28 (nineteen years ago)

It's 9:30 here and I've already been up almost four hours (and at work for 2.5!) Get crackin' folks!

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Monday, 15 January 2007 06:32 (nineteen years ago)

Morning! It's still early here, if you ask me.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 15 January 2007 08:21 (nineteen years ago)

morning! it is early and it is DARK :(

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 15 January 2007 09:07 (nineteen years ago)

Here comes the sun!

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 15 January 2007 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

da na na urgh

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 15 January 2007 09:29 (nineteen years ago)

Morning!

Chamonix

I've been there. It's great! The drive from Geneva to Chamonix is one of the most beautiful I've ever experienced. I Love Mountains! (Maybe that should be a board on here in itself)

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Monday, 15 January 2007 09:41 (nineteen years ago)

Morning! Anyone know how to get dried formula milk out from between the keys of a laptop?

― Archel (Archel), Monday, 15 January 2007 09:44 (nineteen years ago)

Hot wash cycle of a washing machine.

― C J (C J), Monday, 15 January 2007 09:45 (nineteen years ago)

x-post : prize the keys out individually and poke about with a damp cotton bud?

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 15 January 2007 09:51 (nineteen years ago)

There speaks an experienced parent :)

Since I've already lost the number 4 from this keyboard I don't think I'll risk any prising. Fortunately I rarely need to type a dollar sign or I'd be in real trouble.

― Archel (Archel), Monday, 15 January 2007 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

Hi everyone. Late night Fri night and Sat night (and not being judicious enough last night with my sleeping) has lead to my brain being rather ugh. Highlight of Sat was nursing my head with a duvet, ordering papa johns pizza, and sitting on the sofa with lots of friends watching Bullseye and Krypton Factor - brilliant!

Archel, surely you may need to type the number 4 on occasion? (I guess that's what the numeric keyboard is for, tho)

Mark, did I see you in the Britannia last night, or was it your doppelgänger?

(these last few posts feel like Monday morning - everyone coming in, saying hi, making 1 witticism, then slumping into their desks and reading their email).

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 15 January 2007 09:59 (nineteen years ago)

if you need a dollar, you can always poke the switch with a pencil or something.

I like taking my keyboard apart and putting the keys back in semi-random order just to confuse people. Tip: if you can avoid it don't remove the big keys (space, enter, wide shift etc) cos they're buggers to get back in and it's easy to break them trying.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 15 January 2007 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

xpost : ha yes a long time ago. Now they just break my computer with dodgy downloaded games.

If you don't want to prize the keys up, you could just lift the edges and slide a piece of damp blotting paper underneath and wiggle it about. I am determined to find a solution!

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 15 January 2007 10:25 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you, I may try that! Although since everything seems to be functioning normally it might just be a cosmetic problem and thus ignorable like so many other cosmetic problems at the moment...

― Archel (Archel), Monday, 15 January 2007 10:27 (nineteen years ago)

Mark, did I see you in the Britannia last night?

haha yes! were you there for the quiz? I thought I saw Julia as I was going in. Also my Production Editor was there with her husband, so it was a real case of Oxford smallness syndrome.

I thought it would be bad form to do a quiz on a first date, so declined when absurdly young Jamie Oliver lookalike quizmaster came round. Actually we did end up whispering answers to one another so we might as well have participated!

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Monday, 15 January 2007 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

haha xp, my Consulting Editor asked me what he should do recently having spilt malt whisky on his keyboard!

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Monday, 15 January 2007 10:44 (nineteen years ago)

karma would suggests to me that when the baby spits up on the keyboard, that will dissolve the dried formula.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Monday, 15 January 2007 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

Dried formula won't be too bad - if it's not affecting the keyboard now, it won't get any worse. If it gets wet again though it might bugger things up.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 15 January 2007 10:50 (nineteen years ago)

Morning. I've not spilt anything on my keyboard, but seem to be having a problem with chocolate on my trackpad.

Had a bit of a ... blah weekend. Watched Babylon 5 all Friday night. Saturday I found out that my favourite neighbours are moving out, and a couple with a young baby are moving in. Argh. If it cries, I'll poison it. Sorry, parents of the 'cooler, I'm feeling very anti-breeder at the moment. Mainly due to going to the park yesterday and couldn't MOVE for runaway todlers. It makes me unspeakably depressed, which makes me angry.

Went out on Saturday to see Gooblar band, who were very good, as usual, but I just wasn't really in the mood for being out of the house and didn't have a very good time. Compound that with awful jealousy/envy issues and blah.

Yesterday I drank a lot of vodka by myself and wrote some songs and watched more Babylon 5. I'm going to run out of the first series soon. Argh. Then what will I do with my life?

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 10:51 (nineteen years ago)

Also, please to reccomend something to do in France for a week. I'm only staying with my brother in Paris for three days, but don't really want to spend the rest of my holiday week hanging around my flat.

Somewhere I can get to by public transport. Brittany is pretty, isn't it? Stones of Carnac or something maybe.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 10:56 (nineteen years ago)

Also, please to reccomend something to do in France for a week

EAT CHEESE

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 15 January 2007 10:59 (nineteen years ago)

emsk otm

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 15 January 2007 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to do that anyway. I guess I need someWHERE to eat cheese.

Maybe I'll go to the Languedoc and look for Templar crap. Though I suppose it'll be all DaVinci Coded out.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

x-post I went to Carnac 3 yrs ago - nice stones, v. nice crepes, swimming in the ocean great! But the weather was shite.

Beryl update : are you listenin' CJ, tweacle?

1)Her (former)best friend won't talk. I asked her what's going on and she wouldn't say.

2)Separately - there has been an accounting MISTAKE, whihc B may be responsible for. No-one knows for sure.

3)I just saw her in a meeting with the Human Resources manager!

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 15 January 2007 11:04 (nineteen years ago)

gooblar band were great but pls never again to play at the hope and anchor... i barely go there but whenever i do i'm reminded of why i don't. sound there kills everything, in a bad way. and who were those twats next to us? i mean, why were they there? i don't get it. fuck off back to clapham or essex or wherever you came from.

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 15 January 2007 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

I do not care about weather. I kinda like bad weather, it suits my mood. Is there a hotel or a B&B near Carnac or did you ::gulp:: camp?

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

who were those twats next to us? i mean, why were they there?

what were they doing? talking loudly while band was playing?

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Monday, 15 January 2007 11:12 (nineteen years ago)

God, this is how pathetic my life is. I'm become a hopeless middle aged middle class tosser and the only ray of light in my life is planning my holiday 6 months in advance.

Shoot me now. Just put a bullet through my brain. It'd be kinder.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 11:12 (nineteen years ago)

and yesterday was lush, flatmate and baby and i went to brick lane and ate bagels and drank coffee (not baby) looked at shoes and dresses and bike stuff and then flatmate had a meeting in w*st l*nd*n so i got to babysit all afternoon HUZZAH we had awesome adventures. baby can stand up unaided! he couldn't do that last week.

xpost what were they doing? talking loudly while band was playing?

yeah, but REALLY obnoxiously. and they were right at the front, and hope & anchor is TINY anyway, and there are two whole more floors that you can go to if you want to talk, and they were those thick-necked yobbo-riche clapham types, and one of them thought it was h-i-larious to yell "it's football not soccer!" when they realised there were americans onstage, and so did all his mates, and generally i wanted to fucking STAB them. and it's not even like gooblar are a quiet band, but these guys were just such pricks. i don't. get. why. they were there.

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 15 January 2007 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

Only one Merkin. The others are effing Canucks. Fuck Canadians, fuck Clapham type Bridge and Tunnel fuckwits in music venues, fuck chillerns (well, not literally) just fuck everything.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

aw kate but the chillerns are cool. they are here to make the grownups larf.

i like canucks too.

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 15 January 2007 11:29 (nineteen years ago)

Seems like a good moment for today's Chaz picture:

http://www.virgin.net/music/wallpapers/images/charlottehatherley_800.jpg

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Monday, 15 January 2007 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

charlotte hatherley has the most brilliant and infectious laugh ever, this massive HUR-HUR-HURRR thing.

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 15 January 2007 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

My 1p0d is playing Boney M covering Heart of Gold! Yay to everyone!

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 15 January 2007 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

Jesus, people stop changing your email addresses. I just sent out a group email, and about half of them already bounced back. Gah!

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

I promise not to change my email address. However, our new Hoboken overlords may have scurrilous ideas of their own.....

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Monday, 15 January 2007 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

Oh. My. God.

I didn't know this existed. OK, it would be a bit of a waste as I've already got Season 1 Boxset - but I suppose I could give that to someone else to get them hooked if I got the EVERYTHING EVER Bab 5 box.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

xxxxxposting

I thankfully didn't notice thick-necked yobbos from where I was, but I'm agreeing about the sound. Just watched the dvd (the soundman filmed the show for us), and WHY DIDN'T ANYBODY TELL ME MY GUITAR SOUNDED LIKE THAT??? Either basically inaudible or way too loud and tinny. I mean, I know i usually err towards trebly, but this was like playing a fisher price yer first electric guitar. Useless.

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 15 January 2007 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

Because everyone knows the sound at the H&A is rubbish. We were concentrating on the ROCK, not the rubbish sound.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

bc EVERYTHING sounds like shit in the hope & anchor, so everyone mentally/aurally adjusts for it. i dunno, i had earplugs in, proper ones that cut out a lot of the shit (inc a lot of the noisome thick-necked pissants but not all) (they were to your left gooblar, at front of crowd) so it wasn't as bad as it's been before.

haha xpost

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 15 January 2007 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

Alls I know is watching that video made me want to throw in the towel.

(I won't. But it's always horrid to be up on stage and feeling like yr in the best band in the world and then see or hear the show and realize that, for the most part, what you thought you sounded like is nothing like what everyone else is hearing.)

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 15 January 2007 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

xxpost - camping, Kate. Tent hideously full of water all week, plus plague of GIANT WASPS.

Yes Hope and Anchor is always full of wankers. The sound need not always be shit, except for the fact that every time we play there the soundman is a) shit and b) turns up 2 hours late. I have a residual effection for the place which is based on it's pub-rock/punk heyday, but I shoudl just face facts and admit that it's no good.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 15 January 2007 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

Hi all! Who'd like to lend me by post every single episode of The West Wing? I'd be so owing you one you could get me to do practically ANYTHING in return...

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Monday, 15 January 2007 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

Gooblar, this is why I never EVER EVER watch videos, or listen to tapes of gigs. ESPECIALLY not ones coming direct off the soundboard.

They never sound like you expect them to - there's something about the atmosphere and the excitement that is so important to the live experience which never turns up on tape.

Go by how you felt when you were onstage - and more importantly, by the crowd reaction - not by recordings. Playing live isn't necessarily about being technically perfect, or about good sound (though these things are important) - it's about energy and chemistry and a million other things.

You have good songs - we know you have good songs. But what makes your live show good is the hundred and one little interactions - between you and the rest of your band, between you and the audience, the weird between songs hilarity you come up with - *that* is what makes it so much fun. And that's the kind of things that tapes don't capture. The spontanaity.

I know how you feel - that's why I can't watch recordings of mine own performances (even the BBC thing was a trial).

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I were allowed to drink vodka at work.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

Well, if no one finds out...

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Monday, 15 January 2007 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

Mont St. Michel! I might go there! Hotels inside the walls, on the island! How cool would that be?

I actually wonder if anyone would notice if I drank at work. Not that I'm going to, but I do wonder. People don't pay that much attention to me, and they know I'm surly all the time anyway.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

You could so get away with it. Just be careful to keep the merkin accent up tho, cos as soon as you turn into Mary Poppins it's game over . . .

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Vodka make pain go away. I had forgotten that. But people might get suspicious if I actually started smiling at work.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Mark, I can sort you out with the final season of The West Wing I think (if I can find the disc) but that's all I have I'm afraid.

― Archel (Archel), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

I really can't stand being anything approaching remotely fucked up at work. Even one pint at lunchtime is too much. Me & drinking in office = disaster.

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

I gave up on drinking at work after colleagues and I went out for lunch and I ended up having 7 pints (which was less than everyone else). The day was forever remembered as "Armageddon" among the staff.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

But they are Russian! Isn't worktime drinking part of the contract? (One of the best bits about Bab5 is Ivanova's constant asides about Russianness.)

Oh, I should go for my lunchtime walk, but I'm too full of curry. Besides, the tiny rays of sunlight I saw earlier seem to have gone.

I hate rate roll offs. I just thought you all should know that.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

NEVER get ASK on tottenham court road to deliver anything to you, they are a bunch of useless fuckwits.

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Oh dear, more delivery woes?

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

I hate rate roll offs.

But we all love rate roffles!

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

(I'm really bored today.)

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

well it's here now. after ALL DAY FRIDAY and ALL DAY SATURDAY (flatmate, not me, but today she went to brighton) and making her pay TWICE for delivery. ??

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Why did they make her pay TWICE when it's them that didn't deliver?

ARgh, stupid bastards. I'm thinking of buying bookshelves through mail order, but this is making me think twice.

The world outside remains boring, there was no sun. And not even any television cameras outside the courts.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Feeling down, down, down, down (etc). Can't really seem to get interested in anything @ the moment. If it wasn't for GTA and Tomb Raider, I'd probably just sleep all the time.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Pash, that is my life at the moment, but I don't even like videogames. So substitute Babylon 5. Sorry to hear things are so rub. As the days get longer, hopefully the moods will get brighter. I hope.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

How can they make you pay twice?! Unbelievable.

But they are Russian! Isn't worktime drinking part of the contract?

This was in Prague, actually, and we were all American (and I was 22 or so, I think, to boot, although everyone else was a bit older).

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Fake Russian! Oh noes!

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

because she bought it in the shop on friday afternoon and paid for delivery, then they brought it to the house 1 hour later, stupid fucknuts, even thought she hadn't asked them to bring it then. see? FUCKERS. i am never going in there again.

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

(haha i'm sure they will REALLY miss my custom)

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

That's INSANE! How are you even supposed to get home in an hour, let alone finish shopping and then go home?

I am confused by this thing I want to order in the back of Country Life. (Oh, shut up.) It is supposed to be a radiator cover/bookshelf on top. Which would be useful to 1) solved the Book Problem and 2) try and direct the heat about my flat more usefully.

But the measurements are very clearly wrong - i.e. it gives one measurement for the one without the bookshelf (47.25 x 35 x 7) and then a bonkers measurement for the one with the bookshelf (97 x 35 x 7) as if they've added the height of the bookshelf to the length, rather than the height. So I can't figure out which one to get.

And then also, they say to figure out which size you need by adding a few inches to your radiator length - but the medium size one is 47.25 - which is exactly the length of my radiator. Which makes me wonder if they've made a mistake on that, too - i.e. it is not the length of the actual shelf, but the length of the radiator it fits, as I assume radiators are standard lengths.

Oh, it's all too confusing. I want bookshelves, and this would be so convenient as it would take up a bit of the wall I've not been able to use due to the radiator.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

radiators are standard lengths, but the standards have changed at various times. How old is it? Also there are various configs of piping at each end of the rad - and you need to decide whether it should be added to the length (i.e will go inside the the cover), or is additional to the length (i.e will stick out). If the latter you need to be sure that there's a hole, or that you can cut one.

I speak from the bitter experience of swopping out lots of knackered old rads from my house when I bought it.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

It is only a year old. I'd like it if the pipes could stick out, so I could adjust the temperature.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, it's too confusing. I looked on the web to find the sizing issue, but there are much prettier grilles - but without bookshelves on top. Argh!

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

omg tilly & the wall, i love you i love you i love you.

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

my rule of thumb for DIY is **I have to SEE the thing IRL and measure it myself**. I have wasted too much time and money on the wrong stuff. God I hate DIY.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 15 January 2007 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

I'm so boring that I killed the watercooler. Sorry folks. No more talk about radiators.

I saw Pauline Quirke at lunchtime.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

Nah, the 'Cooler always dies a death in late afternoon.

I'm so bored I'm actually dealing with Rate Rolloffs.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

And not answering her emails...

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Eh? Haven't checked email coz I'm sulking ... hang on.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

I anybody else misreading Rate Rolloffs as Late Roffles?

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Let me tell you, they are not Roffles. It's when fixed rate mortgages' fixed time expires, and we have to contact them and try to sell them a *new* mortgage. So I'm trying to do projections on how many of them will convert to new remortgages. Bah. Tedious as fuX0r.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Plz try and sell me a new mortgage!

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

You have to talk to one of our advisors, Mark. I don't sell mortgages.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

I am so confused by bloody mortgages, I don't even look at our site. I just looked to see what the deals were, and went BLLAARRRGGGHHHH.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

One last word on radiator covers...

http://www.amberradiatorcovers.co.uk/images-gallery/Classic%20Bookcasesmall.jpg

If I get a custom made one, I can get it in a mahogany finish with a lovely fleur de lise brass grille. Lustlustlust.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Monday, 15 January 2007 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

In lieu of sendingy you all postcards I shall send you little blackberry vingettes (if I'm going to have to check the damned thing for work I might as well abuse the fact that they are paying for is).

I seem to have found my rythmn quite easily and havenot killed myself. My funky skis and filthy deshabillee (my jacket is 10 years old and has been up the himalayas, caked in oil and wooddmoke, is no longer water proof but still great for the cold dry mountains) is going down well as is the hip flask, currently filled with calvados.

I love how skiing is a great leveller of appearance evryone is wrapped upin layers of michelin man insulation, is sweat, makeup free, has messy hair and is slightly smelly. girls with messy hair and no makeup are, of course, much hotter than groomed ones.

Things are going good here, I'm working on a drunky barfly role. See youse all soon.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 15 January 2007 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

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― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 15 January 2007 23:48 (nineteen years ago)

Ed has all the fun.

Morning, all.

― if i could do just one near-perfect thing i'd be mitya (mitya), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 07:54 (nineteen years ago)

morning all.

I made marshmallows at the weekend!

But, sadly, I'm undergoing my usual post-holiday blues, somewhat compounded by my American crush IMing me the day after I got back to say "Umm...yeah, I'm going out with .... on Friday". It probably seems painfully obvious to everybody else, but I must stop falling for people who live 4,000 miles away. It's not all that healthy.

Big evil-looking clouds over Oxford this morning. I think I'm going to curl up here and write reports all day...

― carson dial (carson dial), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 08:40 (nineteen years ago)

I actually think it's the crush thing that's all not that healthy. Where they live is kind of secondary.

― if i could do just one near-perfect thing i'd be mitya (mitya), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 08:49 (nineteen years ago)

Ian, can you send me the marshmallow recipe? I am intrigued.

Where they live probably doesn't help.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

*xpost*

Given the outcome of pretty much all my crushes, I think you have a point there. *sigh*

FP, I'll send it to you when I get home tonight - it's just a LOT of sugar and golden syrup mixed in with gelatin, but fun and messy to make :)

― carson dial (carson dial), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 09:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'm trying to think if I've ever had a *crush* that has turned out successfully. And I'm pretty sure I haven't.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

I never did. The one time I crushed on someone where it was reciprocated, I was to busy hiding my crush to notice that she fancied me as well. And by the time it dawned on me what was going on it was all too late. Sigh . . .

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 09:51 (nineteen years ago)

Heh. I did think it was reciprocated a little this time around, but I guess when you're in a crush, everything can seem that way. Now all I have to do is try and disentangle the crush feelings from the rather good friendship I've built up with her over the past year...

― carson dial (carson dial), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

I'm so jealous of you, Ed. Man, skiing is fun! More blackberry vignettes, please.

― g00blar (gooblar), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

I must stop falling for people who live 4,000 miles away. It's not all that healthy.

Encourage them to abandon their life and move to your country. I did, and she's still here!

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 10:59 (nineteen years ago)

Well, she is supposedly coming over to Europe at some yet unspecified time in the future. I am working on trying to entice many of my American friends over with the lure of the strong pound. So far, the delights of North Carolina are winning out, but some are starting to seriously consider it!

― carson dial (carson dial), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:14 (nineteen years ago)

You presumably mean to work here, right, because the strong pound is hideous if they are simply coming here to spend their dollars?

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

I was going to say that too,.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:22 (nineteen years ago)

Morning. Even I am jealous of skiing and I don't downhill ski. (Cross country for me, please.) Mainly because I would like some nice SNOW instead of all this rain.

I think having a relationship with someone 4000 miles away would probably be just about right for me at the moment. But crushes are just bad news. Destroy all crushes.

Harry Esmond just had his ten year long crush RIPPED out of him in the most horrible of ways. But I kinda know how he feels.

Maybe I'll just crush on furniture instead. Oh, Opus 1000 CD shelves in solid pine, you will be mine. Next month.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

I've abandoned my life a couple of times, but the abandoned bits don't seem to know they're abandoned. This is sometimes good, sometimes not. The 'move to a new country' bit is key for successful abandonment, I feel.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

I've already "moved to a new country" twice. That shit gets kinda old.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

I am working on trying to entice many of my American friends over with the lure of the strong pound.

You make it sound as if it's actually easy to get a job in another country, which is not actually the case! (!) (Or if it is, why has everyone been keeping the secret from me?)

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

morning! i am having ORGANISEY DAY.

― emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

Could you please organise me, while you are at it?

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

Alls I need is, you know, a purpose in life, a reason to go on living, rather than just existing. You know, that sort of thing. No big deal.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

xpost

Some of them have UK/US dual-citizenship, which certainly makes it easier to work in the EU.

Right, off to Sainsbury's to crush on sunblushed tomatoes. They've never let me down!

― carson dial (carson dial), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

Who is Keeley Hazel? She is on the cover of The Sun today about some naughty tape that's been leaked (presumably by an ex).
Seems all the other music message boards are full of links to said tape.
I've never even heard of her

A UK Paris Hilton?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

Never heard of her.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

clue: she is not normally on the cover of the Sun.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

I had a crush on a girl for..... 14 years, I think, during which time I saw her maybe twice a year (she was friends with some friend who we only visited that often). Nothing had ever happened but I clung to the possibility, you know.

I'd gotten over the crush by about 2000, and hadn't seen her for several years, when I bump into her on the London underground. We have a brief chat for two or so stops, just small-talk - then we part, and she says "bye [my brother's name], nice to catch up".

That sucked.

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

ouch.

― g00blar (gooblar), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

Shit, that's gotta hurt, mark. Oh dear.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

btw : Berylfans - she's back. More later!

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

It's like the fake Spectator article in Henry Esmond, but kind of in reverse. Suckage.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

Keeley Hazel(l, I think) is a "page 3" model and that's about it, as I recall. I had to google her myself last year after reading some bit in popbitch and asking the same question.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

Great. I'm just getting a massive fuckoff excel project to do. Coz no one else in this bitch understands pivot tables. Sigh.

And I have asked for help with the Rate Rolloffs, but that isn't happening until after lunch.

Why oh why did I even come in today? Why did I get out of bed? I knew it was a bad idea.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

Also, TISSP has cute friends.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

I've just had an hour sleep and now have to face my boss in a 121 where I tell him what I need for the next 3 months, and he says I can't have it. He then tells me I get a 3/4 bonus cos I need to stretch myself more, then we talk about football for 1/2 an hour. Wish me luck.

Good luck with the pivot table kate!

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't get a bonus at all this year. Or a payrise. And they're wondering where my motivation has gone?

I still haven't got the data I need to work on the bloody pivot tables. Argh. I can't get my head around the setup of it at the moment.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm, payrises - they haven't been mentioned here either. I wonder if they happen at the tax year end?

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

Mine happened just before Christmas last year. OK, it turned up in my January paycheck, but I've not even had a meeting with my line manager in ages. And don't really know if I should bring it up. Or how. "Err... my council tax is going up. My travelcard costs are going up. Now how about a cost of living increase?"

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

You should say something, Kate--it's obvious you're pretty indispensable there, so they should be keeping you happy.

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

seconded - a GREAT time to mention pay is when you're working on something that they desperately need that no-one else can do. You should at least know when the pay review is, how it's done etc etc etc

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

I have NO IDEA when/how pay review is done. My line manager has been too busy to really talk to me about anything lately. I don't even remember how it happened last year - oh yeah, my then line manager called me into the office and I thought i was going to get yelled at about something, but they told me I was getting bonus/rise instead. I don't really know how to raise the topic - or, indeed, with whom!

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I just think I've been rubbish at work lately. Slacking, and I know it. :-(

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

Sometimes I feel like that too--I tend to work in bursts, concentrating well for a week and then being incapable of achieving anything the next. It doesn't make you any less valuable, especially if the work you do in the upswing is of good quality. There are plenty of people who work consistently but poorly, and I'd rather employ the former type than the latter.

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

line manager = too busy = bollocks. They have to make time for a simple question like this - it's part of their job.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

(i.e. I often feel awful about how much I've managed to achieve, but I recently got a pretty good pay rise, so evidently it's a misplaced fear--and I'd all but guarantee it's misplaced in yr case too)

xpost

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

No, it's not so much the line manager's busy-ness (though I have been trying to have a meeting about RRO's for 3 days now) as my unwillingness to actually ask the question, through lack of social graces.

And, in other "it's not my day" news, I went to go for my daily lunchtime walk, but it's raining. :-(

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

you won't melt! get an umbrella innit. or are you wearing flip flops?

― emsk ( emsk), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm at work. I would have no way to dry off afterwards, and it would be unpleasant to sit around the office being damp. I will wait an hour or two, see if it clears up.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

I have got to stop caning the Random function. Old threads are depressing as fuck.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Live for the future!

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

What future? I mean, honestly. I'm not looking forward to anything.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Look forward to asking for a pay rise!

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Why? It's freaking traumatic to have to do it. Plus, it's not like I actually need the money. I don't want to fall into that consumerist trap of valuing myself by my salary.

Sorry, I've been having a real attack of the existentials lately. :-(

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Money = Pedals, QED

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

And what am I going to do with pedals, anyway? It's not like I'm making music at the moment. It's not like I'm in a band. Absolutely no one wants to work with me. And with good reason. I'm worse than useless. I'm a liability. I've trashed my whole life, again and again for this, and what have I got to show for it?

Oh, I might just go for a walk anyway, even if it is raining, to stop me feeling like this. :-(

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

I stopped looking forward to things ages ago. Once I accepted that it really didn't matter if I lived or died, and that nothing I did was of any consequence, it freed me up - I can now do ANYTHING I want, and it doesn't really matter. That's brilliant! It's like life is one gigantic sandbox!

Saying that, I'm looking forward to a Mighty Boosh weekend, neep and tatty curry and going to the Proms (and other cool festivals) in the summer.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

read yr e-mail Kate.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

No, no, don't read your e-mail, Kate! It's a trick!

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

I realised that I was asking the wrong questions, and it's part of a deeper malaise.

My boss is in meetings all day. I feel like going home. I am just organising the same data on the page over and over. Knowing that I will be asked to completely change it when anyone explains what they actually want. And also knowing that the report is meaningless until there is data to go in it, and knowing that the conslutants will never actually fill in the bits I need them to. Argh!

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Oh noes health assessment time for me at work :(

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

What kind of health? Use wrist rests. Look at my lumps and KNOW.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

I'm so fucking bored. I feel like I get no support around here. I'm frustrated - and bored. No wonder I can't get out of bed in the morning. The idea of facing eight hours here, waiting around for people to get back to me is more than I can bear.

There is nothing else in my life to provide distraction or relief. So my mind is just eating itself. God, I hate this.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

I have to go and be poked with needles and have all manner of things tested and analysed and be told that I drink too much.

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Can someone find me a rich madchen so I can work this stinky drunky ski bum thing. I found a kindred spirit today wearin flourescent pink, an all in one ski suit; I got chatting, his grandmother's apparently. Not doing too well on the ski bunnies front, this is a serious resort for serious sportsMEN and my style is somewhat ragged, even if my skis are unique. I'm not wowing anyone on the slopes. Anyways, I have found a bottle of ramzzotti, it is chasing the swiss beer and wine down well; I have several cheesy snaps of myself with the matterhorn in the background, glass in hand of course.

― Ed (dali), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Is the Madchen on ILX rich?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Ed, Ski Bunny:

http://www.ilvecchiocollezioni.com/pubblicita/pics/ramazzotti.jpg

― g00blar (gooblar), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Morning!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 09:02 (nineteen years ago)

Morning, FP!

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 09:28 (nineteen years ago)

Morning FP! Morning Mitya!

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

Morning all.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 10:14 (nineteen years ago)

Morning. I have a code, and REALLY don't want to have one.

― g00blar (gooblar), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 10:16 (nineteen years ago)

do you mean a cold?

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 10:24 (nineteen years ago)

Yes (I'm stuffed up, y'see).

― g00blar (gooblar), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 10:34 (nineteen years ago)

blow your dose!

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 10:35 (nineteen years ago)

Get some Tuuuuuuuuuuuuunes

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

Morning.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

morning! i got good things in the post - all of the prisoner (for £17!) and don't look now special edition (for £7!). did you hear that kickass rain this morning? i had just got out of bed but had to go back when that started so i could curl up and be cosy and hear it on the windows and the street.

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:06 (nineteen years ago)

I was in the rain this morning. Not so kick ass when your umbrella is dying.

The Prisoner! can I borrow that when you're done? I'll trade you for Bab 5.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

Morning All. I'm expecting to bump into Dr friggin Foster out there, my lordy lord it's raining. Mixed mood this morning - my flatmate has yet again failed to keep payment on our tiscali service, so it is down, but on the positive side I have a lovely (and probably expensive) scented candle from a nonsense press event this morning. Them's the breaks. Anyone (single)want to do a valentine's day pub crawl in Camden btw? think of the fun - cider and black, goths, romance, Amy Winehouse possibly. Woooooooooooooooh!

― Nobodys Prawn (Nobodysprawn), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

Bah, I'm jealous - I remember buying the whole of The Prisoner on VHS a few years back and paying £50 for it.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

Ugh, I hadn't even thought about VD. I expect I'll be home slitting my wrists. I couldn't stomach going out, let alone going anywhere there would be *Romance*. Sorry.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:14 (nineteen years ago)

i think that's sort of the point... we all go out and have a whale of a time and there is 0 romance and we do not care. no?

― emsk ( emsk), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:15 (nineteen years ago)

Ugh, I hadn't even thought about VD

Note to self: do not read last post first!

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:16 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe. (Sorry, I am sounding like a Vorlon. "Perhappsssss...")

If the depression has lifted by then. Otherwise, I just won't be very much fun to anyone.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:17 (nineteen years ago)

valentines day in the dublin castle? that sounds kind of terrifying

― Storefront Church (688), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:17 (nineteen years ago)

Where did you get Dublin Castle from? there are more pubs in Camden.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:18 (nineteen years ago)

it always ends up at the dublin castle in the end though

― Storefront Church (688), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

You've been on a pub crawl with Prawn, Emsk and I before, then?

We always end up in that... argh, that place down the road with the giant rocking chair.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

Valentine's day is a month away! Let's not get started on that yet..

Morning, anyway. I am as deaf as a stick from band rehearsal last night. I need a pedalboard now - too many FX all flapping around on the floor means trouble.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I don't think I've been there since Jesse got married. It's weird; I took him there for the first few times, coz I used to go there all the time when I lived in Swiss Cottage, but it's a place I've come to associate with him exclusively.

x-post FX flapping on the floor? Welcome to my life.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

get a pedalboard too!

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like pedalboards. What if you want to change the order of your pedals around?

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

Also, does anyone who has seen my bedroom think a reproduction of this painting would go well in it?

http://www.tate.org.uk/collection/N/N02/N02476_9.jpg

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

x-post Well you can do that as far I know, just disconnect and swop around.

I always have a fixed order anyway - I'm boring like that.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:39 (nineteen years ago)

I don't even know how to make a pedalboard, not being DIY inclined.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:39 (nineteen years ago)

wood, wires and velcro would do it....and a power supply obv. But I will buy one, I think. Life's too short.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

I don't even trust myself to cut the skirting board holes out of my radiator covers. Let alone make something to hold something as precious as my pedals.

I think I'm going to spend my money on furniture for a while, instead of musican equipment. I'm sick of living in squalor.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

I built my own pedalboard. It's pretty shoddy. Works though!

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

I need a bedside table and prolly another bookcase. At the moment I have several books on the floor next to the bookcase which looks v untidy.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

Buying a desk turned everything around for me, even though I still don't have a proper table to eat at.

How can someone with a paisley wall be living in squalor?

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

"Paisley Wall" - can I steal that for a song title?

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

I want bookshelves and radiator covers. And I've decided I should build (or get built more likely) a little desk to put in the paisley alcove to keep my recording stuff in. Oh wait, I should check that the keyboard would fit in there. Because it's ridiculous recording on the kitchen table and the box of the food processor I've never even opened.

Oh, and a bedside table, as well. Because I've been using my Marshall as one for a year now, and it's covered in candle wax.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

there are two cheapo furniture stores on the Cowley Road which have been a godsend to me. (what is the atheistic term one can substitute for godsend?)

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

x-post you can barely see my paisley wall for all the junk piled in front of it! Hence why I need bookshelves to get the junk off it. So I can build my recording studio in the paisley alcove. Maybe this should be another thread...

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

I attribute my lack of furniture to the fact there is no-one to nag me about it. That, and the fact I don't host dinner parties.

a recording studio in a paisley alcove sounds rather wonderful, Kate.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

HomePWND - the Home Furnishings Lust Thread

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 11:56 (nineteen years ago)

Oh come on, I can't be the only person that wants to talk about dining room tables. :-(

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

I just want some fucking lampshades. That's all I ask.

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

Talking about dining room tables would only remind me that I am always eating alone.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

A dining room table was one of the first things I bought! (Even though I don't have a dining room - it is in the Kitchen/living area.) But I bought it for band meetings, really. And now I no longer have a band.

Ah well, kitchen tables are still good, for keeping piles of back issues of COuntry Life on. And recording on.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

Oh! Great. I was wondering why I had to do this report - they wanted to know who in this building had done business with certain lenders - because the lenders are BUYING THEM FREE DRINKS. Bah. Where's my free drinks?

Oh, and I asked about CoL rises, but even my boss doesn't know what's going on with them. Argh. She has to ask the Financial Exec.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

xp Country Life will always remind me of the Brompton Chest Hospital where I was an outpatient between the ages of 9 and 15 (asthma). This is because it was one of only two magazines in the waiting room. The other was OMNI!

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

Those are my two favourite magazines.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 12:16 (nineteen years ago)

I cannot believe it. I actually have FUCK ALL to do this afternoon.

Not that I don't have things I should be doing, but I'm still waiting for people to get back to me. How on earth am I going to get through the next few hours? I'm not even hungry enough to have lunch yet.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

FP, yr blog has HoL related comments.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, thank you, I read it!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

Hi everyone! I've just been for a workmate's bday lunch. Had a massive duck confitte (sp, sorry) with a cherry sauce thing and half a bottle of rioja. I want to either keep drinking and get really battered or curl up in the corner and sleep sleep sleep zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz but instead must continue debugging my code, grrrr. My earlier estimations that I'll have this software finished by today may have been somewhat premature.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

People are being made redundant here! I've just been called into a meeting to find out what's going on. Will report back.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

Blimey! So long as they keep Beryl! (And you, natch.)

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

oh no, good luck Dr. C. Hopefully our Hoboken overlords haven't got similar ideas....

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

Someone has apparently just been made redundant here, too!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

There's proper firing at our place, but I'll probably be joining them if I talk too much about it.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

WHA??

― g00blar (gooblar), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Argh!

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

Oooh!

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

that duck sounds nice, Johnney, was that in the Mole?

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, I am derailing the London walking thread with Darcylust. Must stop. Have we ever had a "which Mr. Darcy is the best?" thread, or am I thinking of the Pemberley board?

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

No, The Fox up Boars Hill. Duck is easy to screw up but it was cooked just right, and the red cabbage with it was amazing. I was undecided for ages whether to go for the duck or sea bass, so I'm trying to arrange a day next week for us to go back so I can check out the fish. xp

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

I made the most marvellous beef stew the other night. A hybrid of Gary Rhodes and Jamie Oliver with my own addition of sweet potato for extra thickness. Yum yum. Wish I could cook fish though. Or prepare it. Have a hard enough time with raw chicken (bleurgh!), never mind fish things...oooh not to confuse issue but yes VD pub crawl would involve Dublin Castle. Got slightly carried away with description merely mockery of whole romantic load of twaddle VD is and bigging up one's mates.

― Nobodys Prawn (Nobodysprawn), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Me and Beryl survive. Some managers have gone from downstairs.

Thks for the good wishes Mark H and Kate - but I shouldn't mind being made redundant. I volunteered last time, but didn't get it.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

No, The Fox up Boars Hill

I have never even heard of the Fox! Have to check it out.

I just got a call from my friend Alina in Bucharest. She wanted me to buy tickets for Muse at Wembley Stadium in June on the Live Nation website coz for some reason it wouldn't let her buy them from Romania.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't that concert sell out in like 45 minutes?

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

yes, not bad for a stadium which might not even be built in time....

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Hahaha this medical questionairre I'm filling in is roffletastic!

"How much do you typically drink per week?"
"How much do you typically smoke per week?"
"List your two favourite hobbies"

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Phew. My line manager spoke to the FD and looks like I am getting a bonus and a payrise - in my next cheque. Hurrah! Maybe I can get an Opus 1000, radiator cover bookshelves *and* new glasses!

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Wicked!

I finally managed to finish and submit these fcking book entries and now I can spend the rest of the evening wallowing in my own mucus.

― g00blar (gooblar), Wednesday, 17 January 2007 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Morning.

Voiceover: "Today, FP discovers that starting brief affairs with colleagues really isn't a good idea when they go pear-shaped. As they undoubtedly will".

Got a text message last night telling me that she's decided to try things again with her ex. That's the *second* person in a row who I've dated and persuaded to get back together with their ex. At this rate, I should be looking for a career in fucking Marriage Counselling.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 18 January 2007 06:57 (nineteen years ago)

I did some very cliched drunken holiday antic yesterday, including dancing to a bad covers band, chatting up girls, over enthusiastic skolling with norwegians, leading to glass breakage and drink spillage.

Trying to muster up the power to raise myself boot up and go up the mountain again. I feel like an all body bruise.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 18 January 2007 08:14 (nineteen years ago)

Fucking/Marriage Counselling

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 18 January 2007 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

My head hurts, I've run out of caffeine, and my db isn't doing what it should be doing. I want to go skiing.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 18 January 2007 10:48 (nineteen years ago)

Morning. I'm feeling a bit brighter than I have been the past few days, but still not 100%. Last night I watched Sense and Sensibility. And suddenly realising how essentially similar all Austen subplots are. The lack of faithfulness to the book bothers me more in S&S, I think, than in P&P.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

suddenly realising how essentially similar all Austen subplots are

You know what, I've suddenly realised how wet water is. *hug*

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 18 January 2007 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't say it was a bad thing. But I do occasionally get confused between Wyckham and Willoughby the bad boys, or Mr. Collins and Mr. Dashwood, the odious relatives.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

Aaaaah, I'd forgotten how dreamy Dvorak is. It sounds like the incidental music to an unmade adaption of P&P, come to that!

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 18 January 2007 11:06 (nineteen years ago)

I am so broken. I should have stayed in bed today.

I have had to retreat to the cafe up the mountain to sit in alkyhell.

You should be able to get a webcam of where I am at http://www.zermatt.ch/ look for trockner stegg.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 18 January 2007 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

i remember once having a conversation about intentionality, you know the concept, first level intentionality is person X thinks that person Y thinks something, second level is person X thinks that person Y thinks that person X thinks something, etc. the person I was discussing it with said "Jane Austen reaches at least level seven!"

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Thursday, 18 January 2007 11:15 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, poor Ed. But this is what holidays are for! Drunken antics with Norwegians!

Ah, it looks lovely.

http://livecam.zermatt.ch/trsteg.jpeg

I miss snow.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 11:16 (nineteen years ago)

I see an orange lump crumpled in the right hand of the picture - I wonder if that is Ed's hangover.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 11:16 (nineteen years ago)

Check your spambox, kate. I sent you an e-postcard from this funny little kiosk in the train station but I am sure it will look like spam.

― Ed (dali), Thursday, 18 January 2007 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

That picture looks exactly like a map from Unreal Tournament.

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Thursday, 18 January 2007 11:24 (nineteen years ago)

Oh no, I deleted a whole bunch of spam this morning without looking at it. I hope yer eCard wasn't in it. But usually it delivers eCards to the regular folder.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

vaulting xpost

FP, it's not like you've "convinced" them to go back to their ex. It just means they never gave up on their ex in the first place.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 18 January 2007 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, Mitya, but I'm not convinced.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 18 January 2007 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, FP, you're right. It does indeed say something about *you*.

It says that you never ever learn from your previous relationships, and just carry on making the same mistakes. That you don't listen to experience - either your own or other people's. Specifically:

1) that relationships with colleagues are notoriously difficult. Not just through fear of others "finding out" but that there is no escaping the relationship or the breakup after it is over.

2) that you continually rush heedless into relationships, so pleased and in love with the idea of "woo hoo, I'm getting laid/in a relationship" that you don't stop to bother to find out what is going on with the other person, and whether, indeed, they are in a place to have a relationship. If they are on the rebound, or indeed, if they are still hung up on their ex, or whatever. If you bloody well SLOWED DOWN you might have found this out before your emotions got engaged and you got so hurt.

Sorry if this sounds like "I told you so" but well, I did bloody well tell you so.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, Kate, I know you did.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

Morning all. It's tried to snow 3 or 4 times since last evening. Nothing lying as yet. It's been raining inbetween so I don't suppose it will lie yet.

Kate, check your email for some musical goodies*.

*Does not contain Bill Oddie, Tim Brooke-Taylor or Graham Garden.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

Damn, here I was hoping for the Funky Gibbon.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

Or Black Pudding Bertha?

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

that relationships with colleagues are notoriously difficult

well yes. prolly just as well nothing happened with me and Photocopier Girl all things considered (she's still here tho and as lovely as ever). I work in an ultra ultra open plan office of 300+ ppl, of whom ~65% are female and most are in their 20s and 30s. So all the time (well until this week when I started seeing someone) I have the HEAD (what Kate said) vs. HEART (well, BALLS maybe) thang going ahn.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I'm lucky in that I don't work with anyone desirable. I don't know. But the conventional wisdom is, that yes, lots of people do meet their partners in the course of work - it takes considerable... delicacy and caution to negotiate these kinds of relationships.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

Kate I think you would like the entire discography of http://www.holymountain.com/

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

I know you have heard some of those bands via YSI before.
Like Om, Residual Echoes (spacerock), Mammatus and maybe others.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

I know. A lot of the stuff I like has a home there.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

Btw Kate. On an unrelated subject, you will love the new Jesu i'm sure.
The metallers seem to dislike the clean vocals and "pop direction" and stuff while the non-metallers love it as it's very shoegazy.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

I am not a metaller. I am unabashed and unashamedly a shoegazer and a pop lover.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

Hooray!

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

I like the idea of there being an alternative universe metaller Kate. Although I'm kinda scared of the outcome.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

the idea of an alternative universe metaller Kate is altogether easier to visualise having seen what looks like an alternative metaller Spidey in the trailer to Spiderman 3 in the cinema last night. Looks stunning, btw, shame we have to wait til May to see it....

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

I liking the idea of a alternative universe Spiderwoman Kate even more. Actually, I'm just going through various alternative universe versions of Kate in my head now, like the closing credits on Daria.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

Kate would like a lot of metal actually. Just not the mainstreamy or extreme stuff.
The kind Grimly Fiendish is getting into. He was pretty much like you , Kate musicwise I think.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

This is starting to creep me out a bit. :-/

I didn't say that there isn't some metal I like (I am fine with some metal). But I am under no circumstances a metaller. I don't have enough facial hair for a start.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yet...

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

If I'm going to grow facial hair, I hope I get eyebrows first. And sideburns. But mainly eyebrows.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

Hi dere!

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

Who are you, the eyebrow fairy?

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

Haha! Well, in the last 3 years my eyebrows have gone from being pretty perfect (best feature probably) to homes for wild, thick, long, blond hairs that jut at at crazy angles. It's sort of fun but a bit annoying.

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

Those are Mad Scientist eyebrows, they are great.

― The Long Grey And Overcast Tea Time Of The Soul (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

sound's like the kaiser's eyebrows are turning into the kind of cat's whiskers that kids never draw when they draw cats.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Thursday, 18 January 2007 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

Grow those eyebrows long and have them as a comb over!
You could even grow them long enough eventually to have a ponytail!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 18 January 2007 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

Lunchtime curry. Time for a break from all this tedious totalling.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

Kate, have you ever heard Guapo?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 18 January 2007 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

I've seen them live at some distant point in the past.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

So Kate do you think you will hear anything better than the new Jesu in 2007?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 18 January 2007 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

FFS, it's only January.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

I need to psych myself up for hott shoegazing action tonight. I can look at all the pretty shoegazer boys and sigh. Maybe.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I guess I have to get back to work. Nooooo, this is SOOO boring. Somebody save me.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

haha you guys! i just talked to j4m3s blvnt on the phone! haha!

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 18 January 2007 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

OK, my job isn't *that* bad.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

haha and just now 3LT0N J0HN!!!

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 18 January 2007 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Where are you working? MOR Cnuts R Us?

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

Yay, em3k is entertaining us. Are you calling all the world's most annoying pop stars?

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Thursday, 18 January 2007 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

no! they are calling ME! haha ok not really, they are calling other people and i am in the middle. it is making me curiously fizzy!

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 18 January 2007 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

Did james blunt sing that song for you?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 18 January 2007 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Don't you dare type the title!

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 18 January 2007 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha. I got an email from Kate and here is what the gmail advert was

Freemason's Coat - £99.00 - www.masonic-clothing.co.uk - Superb quality masonic jackets made from 100% Wool

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 18 January 2007 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha, that is pretty funny.

Emsk, of all the people I thought would be immune to the random fizziness of 'orrible slebs... though I suppose it must be hard not to just be rude to them.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.masonic-clothing.co.uk could be where you outfit your next band.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Do you think this would suit you?
http://www.clermontdirect.com/index.php?cPath=54_58&osCsid=51cf8b219ecb5ecd21e8b0b1f3feb077

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I had a pair of these back in my yoof:

http://www.clermontdirect.com/images/Masonic%20gloves.jpg

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

There's a whole row of shops next to where I work that sell such things.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

I've had that advert in my gmail too, but I can't remember who triggered it.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Are women allowed in? ;)

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

I've just stumbled across that Never Had Sex thread, and it is, from start to finish, horribly depressing in a million different ways.

Emsk, what other A-listers have you got pencilled in for this afternoon? J0hn L3nn0n?

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Emsk, of all the people I thought would be immune to the random fizziness of 'orrible slebs...

eheh! i dunno, it's funny. worlds that don't normally intersect and all that. i had no idea where i was coming to work today!

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

I've just stumbled across that Never Had Sex thread, and it is, from start to finish, horribly depressing in a million different ways.

Oh god, I just couldn't bring myself to start reading it again this morning. The companion thread turned out to be more... I don't know. Though it was more of a "never having sex again" thread.

The subject depresses me. The way that people just kind of accept that any ~~personal~~ thread on ILX will automatically turn into a zingfest depresses me. The tacit assumption that anyone talking about sexuality deserves whatever puerile crap is thrown at them... and teh kit leaving is most depressing of all, though I know he has many other reasons.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

teh kit has left ilx? :(

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

12:38 PM, 18 Jan 07 locked user g-kit by Pashmina (by g-kit's request)

:-(

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

I know he said that he was busy at work and ilx was making him do less!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Ah man. I was gonna whoop him at Civilisation! Ah well . . .

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 January 2007 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

wtf is going on in hammersmith? apparently it's all closed down and there are tons of police everywhere.

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

x-post, huh? is it the wind?

I am rapidly loosing the will to go shoegazing tonight.

Plus I've been playing some kind of tag with a friend for weeks where we keep trying to schedule dinner and she doesn't return my emails, and at one point we were talking about tonight, but she didn't get back to me until last night, so I didn't get back to her until this morning, and of course she hasn't responded so I have no idea WHAT is going on. :-(

I can NOT spend another night on the sofa watching Jane Austen films. Mainly because I have run out. Someone try to motivate me to go out, please.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

GO OUT

(you)------>OUT!!!! (it's fun over here)

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not gonna convince you to go out. You know you'll have fun when you get there, all sorts of hijinx are in store, and you'll have another diskette of good memories, but that doesn't help you WANT to go out. You'll go out if you feel like it, I guess. One of my new year's resolutions is to go out when I know it's gonna be fun, but I don't feel like. Cos I only feel like it, I can ignore how I feel, if I KNOW that I'm gonna have a good time anyway. (sorry, this post stopped being about you a long time ago)

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know if I'll have fun when I get there. I haven't really found myself enjoying gigs much any more, fullstop - and I really don't particularly enjoy going out by myself. Especially to gigs.

Of course, that brings up the whole Catch 22 of I hate going out by myself - but how will I meet people to go to things with, unless I go out?

Maybe if I tempt myself with a nice supper, even by myself.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

This video should cheer everyone up.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

...except for those who can't actually watch YouTube without it sticking and freezing and crashing their computers. :-(

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Doh!

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

i'm going to the artrocker fest gig at buffalo bar. i'ved asked h if she wants to come cos i think it's her sort of thing, she's not got back to me yet but she and i both have membership cards and can get in for £5 so we could split that. i don't think you'd like it much though!

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

x-post -- See, that is a problem.

Now emsk, if the websites don't lie to me like they did last week, I might finally see Children of Men here by Sunday.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

I was in a good mood for most of today. I don't know where this sudden gust of angst has come from. :-(

x-post I don't want to go to an Artrocker gig, I usually hate Artrocker bands. If I were going out, I'd go shoegazing. I just haven't had a very good time, the last few times I've gone shoegazing by myself.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

I find if you let it all load up, then go to Browsing History -> Settings, View Files, then drag the largest file that has a name like "getvideo?" into MyDocuments, rename it to 'video.avi' and then run it with VLC, its yours!

― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

what browser is that?

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

This is a work computer, Mark, none of that sort of thing works. And I can't even download it and take it home, coz VLC doesn't seem to want to run on the Mac either.

This is the sucky way that my brain works.

Friend A is being an organisational pain in the arse -> I've been in this town how long, and I can't even find someone to go to a gig with me -> all my friends HAAAAAATE me and the other half *I* HAAAAATE -> ugh, I must be the most horrible person on earth and have 0 friends

Maybe I'm not as over the thoughtworming depression as I thought.

I have no money this week, I should probably stay in. But next week, when I do have money again, there is no shoegazing.

But if I go, in this kind of a mood, I won't have a very good time, regardless. Argh, I should go home and watch Dr. Who and make Chinese soup instead.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Why is this stuff always so horribly difficult for me?

I always have such horrible envy of people who have that social ease. I never really was ever able to learn it. :-(

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Society is overrated

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I suppose it is to people who go home to their housemates and their girlfriends, etc.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Balance. Go out some evenings, stay in some, and talk as you like. The rest follows.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Ned is sensible, but also:

does anyone have social ease? I mean really? a lot of people pretend. a lot of people help themselves along with drink or drugs. Some people take the line that if someone has a problem with them, then its just tough, they're going to do what they want to do no matter what and if people don't like it too bad. I strongly suspect social ease is an illusion.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

Mark otm.

― g00blar (gooblar), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Some people fake it better than others. I'm just not very good at faking it. And I do, utterly, have a long term problem with this. My life is a wasteland of broken friendships and misunderstandings, and has been for a long, long time.

Never mind, this is not the place to discuss it.

And I'm realising that if I'm feeling like this, then out is the last place I need to be. :-(

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

You lost me at the end there. Surely in is the last plae you need to be?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I suppose it is to people who go home to their housemates and their girlfriends, etc.

kate dude, you chose to live by yourself!

ned, yay! i am thinking i need to go see it again... head is on more of an even keel than it was when i saw it, and i want to know if it still has that effect on me. if it does it may be the best film EVAH.

dunno what is going on here, can't see anything on bbc wesbite...

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

kate dude, you chose to live by yourself!

Yeah, to be blunt. I made that decision myself at the end of 2002 when, for peace of mind above all else after dealing with another set of housemates at each other's throats, I just needed my own place. Best thing I've done in a long while, that.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

I actually genuinely miss living by myself sometimes, even if sometimes I wished I had more to do re/ socialising--but then again, the grass is always greener on the other side I guess.

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone have social ease? I mean really? a lot of people pretend. a lot of people help themselves along with drink or drugs.

also, markh otm.

― emsk ( emsk), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I chose not to deal with another in the long succession of frankly mental housemates. I didn't choose to be single, that was just kind of thrust upon me.

Oh god, just when I start to feel on an even keel, sweeping depression again.

There really is nothing worse than going to a club when you feel like this - the real "stand on your own, leave on your own, go home, cry and you want to die" experience.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

I suppose that is one of the things which makes Oxford different from London - whilst I see yr "stand on your own, leave on your own, go home, cry and you want to die" and check most of the boxes having been there, I don't check the first purely coz it's impossible for me to go to a club in Oxford without seeing someone I know, whom I will then talk to. I remember you saying a long time ago, Kate, possibly even in the first year of ILX that you preferred the bigness and anonymity of the big city to the smalltown mentality coz if yr clothes, musical taste, interests were perceived as different in the big city then it wasn't noticed as much as in the small places where ppl would have a go at you. Now that was based on thinking back to (I'm guessing) yr adolescent or early twenties experienced, but no matter how bad you feel about yrself, you can't deny that you are older and wiser now, can deal with some of those situations better anyway than you could back then so maybe you should revisit the whole thing and maybe move from London. Not necessarily far out, but...

You love country walks and castles and village pubs and Alex James on his farm and so forth, so could this possibly be the solution???

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

The other thing is, the older, more tired and more cynical you get, the less you can be arsed to go out and the more attractive staying in seems. So when this is coupled with ennui of whatever type, your social life is screwed unless you make a real effort to make it otherwise.

Even in my single days I would never go to clubs on my own - there'd have to be people I knew there. The only time I have really done this was when I lived in Italy, and the first three months (i.e. until I made friends) were the most depressing of my life up to that point.

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Like I keep telling you, we can buy Syd Barrett's old house and live there!

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Well, if you want, Kate, I've been meaning to go to a shoegazer club at least once, so I could go with you. It's centre-of-townish, yeah?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 18 January 2007 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

In my case, it's more it's impossible for me to go to a club in Oxford without seeing someone I know whom I will either spend most of the night avoiding because we've had a row about something, or who will spend most of the night glaring at me because they hate my guts for some reason or other.

The problem isn't the "scene" - the problem is me.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Thursday, 18 January 2007 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Well, well, well, good morning all. It's Friday here on the watercooler. None of my bosses are in the office, which meant the reigns of power were mine, mine, MINE for an hour this morning (ah the petty pleasures of work), and I just spent twenty minutes chatting up the cute Tatar if the office (boy, that sounds exotic doesn't it). But now I have to face reality. I think I will wear my iPod today and listen to that quite nice Sally Shapiro album again.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 19 January 2007 08:16 (nineteen years ago)

You chatted up the office boy?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 19 January 2007 08:31 (nineteen years ago)

Morning again. I'd rather it was *next* friday.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 19 January 2007 08:35 (nineteen years ago)

err, "in the office" and no, not a boy, but I didn't think most of you would get "Tatarka." Perhaps I Was Wrong.

Why next Friday, FP?

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 19 January 2007 08:46 (nineteen years ago)

because he will be in your office next friday?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 19 January 2007 08:49 (nineteen years ago)

Morning all. My head hurts - bowling and chinese with work and the infamous alkyhell. On the plus side got a snog from Leicester work collegue, on the bad side everything is detached from everything else. The entire department is sitting at our desks groaning quietly into Outlook.

Who else went out last night? Tell us about your ruin.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Friday, 19 January 2007 08:54 (nineteen years ago)

As if I ever go out.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 19 January 2007 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

Morning. I'm up for today! Three days without booze as a mini-detox and I feel great. No smoking either. I'm working at home today too which is good news on a Friday (LOUD guitar session mid-morning, I think).

Did Kate shoegaze, I wonder.

Interesting stuff about social ease upthread. I have thoughts, but perhaps later....?

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Friday, 19 January 2007 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

i went out last night and was in FILTHY mood after taking TWO HOURS to get home (yes yes i should have gone on my bike but i didn't know how to get to olympia and the silverlink goes there), but once i got out it was WICKED, two really good noisy smart fun bands. then we fell asleep watching the prisoner.

i am about to melt. the baby is dancing around the living room to the klf. sweetest thing *ever*.

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 19 January 2007 09:21 (nineteen years ago)

I imagine Kate shoegazes whether she goes out or not ;)

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 19 January 2007 09:32 (nineteen years ago)

I was hoping Bryan Adams or perhaps Johnny Marr might be calling you today, Emsk.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 19 January 2007 09:39 (nineteen years ago)

I'm off to Devon next Friday!

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 19 January 2007 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

no one has called me yet today, although i did get a text from the 14-year-old at like 7 this morning. i am still giggling about having spoken to ej...

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 19 January 2007 09:58 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps I Was Wrong

you were ;)

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Friday, 19 January 2007 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning. There is a strange, glowing golden orb in the sky today. What witchcraft is this? Actually, this is my favourite kind of weather, crisp and clear and cold. I think I understand how the weather feels right now. You have a huge RAGE AND STORM AND GRRR and then afterwards it has blown away most of the rain and it can be clear.

Or, err, something.

Yeah, I went shoegazing in the end. It was OK. I ran into Bob and Kristen (I am probably spelling her name wrong, I always do) so I sat with them. The first band were rubbish so I went and got Tai Cult Food. The Tambourines were OK - they've evolved from a rubbish Dandy Warhols tribute band to a quite decent Dandy Warhols tribute band. I didn't hate them this time, which was a first. And then TSDOLE were fantastic, as usual.

The music was great, as usual - I walked in, and they were playing The Sight Of You which was just perfect, and that was it.

Also, Nat played the ROBIN GUTHRIE REMIX OF SVIIB's (Benjamin TSM's solo project) next single for me and it is AMAZING and totally justified my going out.

And B&K told me funny stories about the gigs they'd been to - Kerr, they told me they'd been to see Circulus and some band called Chromehoof (?) at the Purcell rooms - and they did a PROG ROCK OPERA about the Etherians, and they had a giant animatronic MONSTER come out in the middle of their set. I wish I'd gone, it sounds great.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

Also, seems like there is shoegazing at the Windmill tomorrow night. I am thinking of going. Maybe.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

You know, it's starting to make me feel a bit... rub. That this thread stops moving the moment I get on it. :-(

It's enough to make a girl paranoid.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

Chrome Hoof feature the bassist of Cathedral and unsurprisingly is on Rise Above Records.
They're even more disco doom than Cathedral were back when they did that thing. A bit of krautrock and jazz in there too. It's ok.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

It's like doing demos on a lan line.

xpost I get the other extreme, I post and suddenly everyone else did already.

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

No no, we've all got that mid-morning slump after too much ug.

(nb comments may only apply to me)

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

Disco doom? If it weren't for the worrying "jazz" comment it might sound like something i'd like.

K said it was great fun.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:35 (nineteen years ago)

I am so going to start a Primavera Sound thread, listen to this:

FIRST ARTISTS CONFIRMED FOR ATP STAGE

Here there ara the first confirmations for the Estrella Damm Primavera Sound stage curated by ATP. Legendary post rockers Slint wil perform the album Spiderland. Besides them we found artists like Vini Reilly's band The Durutti Column, american emo rock group Built To Spill, Modest Mouse showcasing his new album (with ex Smiths Johnny Marr, who is now a member of them), australian outfit Dirty Three and Low. The hard side of rock will be represented by Isis and Pelican, and the experimental side have artists as Brightblack Morning Light and Grizzly Bear. Also Sub Pop's Band Of Horses, Death Vessel and Oakley Hall are confirmed to play this year's festival, that will take place from May 31st to June 2nd.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:39 (nineteen years ago)

I hadn't even been on the thread till now!

I was listening to my ipod and I was convinced a Lush song had come on, but no, it was actually Black Tambourine. Boy, was my face red! However, it did make me realise how much I want to hear lush again - illegal downloading time I fear (unless some kind person wants to email me...?)

Since I'm - omg - actually talking about music, can anyone tell me more about Rosie Thomas?

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:41 (nineteen years ago)

Johnny Marr is omnipresent.

Slint... oh, go away. ;-P

I am having ESPRESSOCHOC since it is Friday.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

x-post, ooh, Black Tambourine sound like Lush? I need to get me some.

All my Lush is at home, I'm afraid.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

when I went to Sonic Cathedral when it came to Oxford I got talking to some guy who works in the same office as Miki.

I need to check out some of the earlier Lush records as the only ones I can actually remember are the later poppier singles like Single Girl and Ladykiller that diehard Lush fans prolly look upon with disdain.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

No, I love the late poppy stuff, but it's just a different beast. Get thee to a Sweetness and Light. Actually, the retrospective of their whole career is quite good, to get a sense of how they progressed.

Didn't hear any Lush last night, which is unusual. But they did play Chapterhouse (Robin Guthrie remix of that last song on Whirlpool, which I love).

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

The thing is I'm not sure Black Tambourine do usually sound like Lush (see if we can get Michael Jones onto this thread) - it was this one song and I was even convinced I recognised Miki's flat tones. I guess it's possible that my ipod tag info is inaccurate...

Mark H - find the Mad Love EP, that should tell you what you need to know.

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

I never liked Lush. I was into Grunge back then.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

I think they're one of those Chuck bands, and he played me some, and I liked it - and he promised to make me a compilation CD, but he sobered up and forgot all about it, as is typical.

I shall write them on my list of things to buy when I get paid.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

I want to dig out *all* my Robin Guthrie remixes (Lush, Chapterhouse, Medicine, etc.) but most of them are in another country.

Grunge was shit, it was.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

It was.

I never liked shoegazing back in the day, but since I've found out that my new guitar is great at splurging out great walls of warm noize, I'm beginning to think I was wrong. I've even listened to some old shoegazy stuff and kinda liked it.

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Friday, 19 January 2007 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

I was one giant stripey shirt and fringe, back in the day!

Shoegazing was much maligned at the time, but I think it was a victim of its own early success. There was a lot of shoegaze-by-numbers of people who just got a digital effects processing unit. But when it's good, it's still my favourite thing ever.

Big drums, drone bass, fey harmony vocals and LOTS OF SWIRLY SHEETS O GUITARS SPEWING FORTH CATHEDRALS OF SOUND etc. etc.

Yay, pay rise and bonus. My boss apologised for it being so small, but it was more than I was expecting.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you, Dronerock Fairy!

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

pay rise and bonus.

Explain to me, this concept!

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 19 January 2007 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

(Actually, don't. If you're getting rise/bonus, I feel good for you Kate, I got 99 good things but more money aint one)

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 19 January 2007 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

Well, it's just a cost of living increase - where they work out approximately what inflation has been, and stick your pay up by that amount.

The bonus is what I got last year - which is a nice surprise. If the company made any money, they're supposed to give us A LOT of money. But we didn't make any money this year. Except for the conslutants who always get stupid money bonuses cause they're city wankers and paid on a commission.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

They give me more and more money I don't really know what to do with. I mean, it don't buy you love.

I'll buy lots of fancy bookshelves. My furniture will love me.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

**Big drums, drone bass, fey harmony vocals and LOTS OF SWIRLY SHEETS O GUITARS SPEWING FORTH CATHEDRALS OF SOUND etc. etc.**

I always felt that the drums were wrong on a lot of shoegazing - too tippy tappy and not propulsive enough.

Good news about the pay rise!

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Friday, 19 January 2007 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

Lush had BIG DRUMS. Ride had BIG DRUMS. MBV had BIG DRUMS.

A lot of the second and third generation shoegaze bands had stupid tippy tappy drums, but the originals understood the propulsive element of good drums.

This is what I like about The Early Years - they marry shoegazing guitars to KRAUTROCK DRUMS which is a good combination - propulsive drums and etherial guitars, engine for the exploration.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

Grunge wasn't shit.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 19 January 2007 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yes it was. Grunge boutiques at Macys and all that. Rubbish.

Maybe I should try hanging out my shingle again - rich but fat and ugly older woman seeks pretty young dronerock boy as a pet.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

Aah, I should listen to the early Lush albums again. I have them all, I think - a few years ago I found 4AD's online store and, marvelling at the prices, bought everything by Lush in the catalogue that I didn't already have. They sent me a keyring with it all, too.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 19 January 2007 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

Argh, I am still sick. Sick and miserable because I have to leave the house today. Not just leave the house but go to the library to prepare a 2-hour seminar for monday for which I've not done anything yet. Miserable.

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 19 January 2007 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry you are still feeling rub. Have you tried Emsk's and my varying folk rememedies for the removal of the lurgy?

Failing that, staying in bed for a week and doing NOTHING on doctors orders until you are well.

Oh, suddenly I have remembered - TISSP! - your doppelganger was doing sound last night. His beard was a slightly different shade, but other than that, he could have been your brother.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

I'm currently eating hot soup with lots of chilies, garlic, and ginger. Staying in bed is exactly what I should be doing--I'm miserable because I cannot.

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

You are making me very hungry for mine lunch. Now I want something tofuy and garlic and gingery. But I don't know where I'd get that around here. Maybe for dinner, then.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

BTW: brilliant apocryphal Faulkner quote about appropriation, adaptation, ripping-off in art, as found here. When asked about what Hollywood had 'done to' his books, WF responded:

"Done to them? They haven't done anything—they're all right there on the shelf."

Reminds me of the wanker who was bitching about the rapture because they ripped off Gang of Four. I asked him if he liked GoF. He said yes. I said, if they're so blatantly ripping them off, don't you want more GoF?? Isn't that a good thing??

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, Slint is the missing link in that randomness.

I don't know. I suppose I have this problem with DW tribute bands - I should be happy that *someone* is still making music that sounds like that. But when they're just not as good as the original... I'd rather listen to the old records than a *rubbish* copy.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Fair enough. But (and this is what Faulkner's saying) nothing's stopping anyone from listening to the old records!

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

I just think the justifiable criticism in those cases is that they're rubbish copies, not that they're copies.

Copying, ripping-off, appropriating is a long and valuable tradition in all art, especially pop music.

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I suppose that's true. But sometimes rubbish copy = copying exactly, retreading records you already have, and not doing anything new, or any kind of progression with it.

It's the difference between fan fiction and literature, I suppose. There's Wide Sargasso Sea and there's ... err, my argument is falling down.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

haha.

I'm off to the library, armed with Winesburg, Ohio and many, many tissues.

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 19 January 2007 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

I've got a slice of carrot cake. Evil stuff, why do I love it so?

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

I'm off to the library, armed with Winesburg, Ohio and many, many tissues.

Nice double entendre there.

"Hands"

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Why do I never learn?

It tastes so nummy when I'm eating it, but I feel like I'm on heavy drugs afterwards. Maybe I should put on some dronerock on the headphones and pretend to work again.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

What are people doing at the weekend?

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Laundry, I hope and pray.
Reading.
Getting a haircut.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight - nothing, glorious nothing.

Tomorrow I'm actually going to attempt to try and FINISH SOMETHING in the way of recording. Might be the new songs I'm demoing, might be the old Shimuras sessions, no idea. And then I'm going to try to go to Night of the Long Swords at the Windmill for some dronerock/shoegaze action.

Sunday I was thinking of going to Hampton Court Palace, weather depending.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

looking after an teenager!

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

I have nothing at all planned! I can't *do* nothing, mind, as I've been doing far too much nothing lately and I'll get angsty and bad-tempered.

I might go for a walk.

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

going to an Italian restaurant in north Oxford called Luna Caprese which is run by the father of a mate of mine and then over the road to the Rose & Crown to celebrate my friend Ros's 30th birthday.

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

that's Saturday. Sunday, who knows?

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Probably off to Hull.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

emsk - how old teenager? Yours? Boy/girl?

Trying to get a 14 yr old boy to do ANYTHING apart from occasionally look up from the TV to stuff another biscuit into his gob is proving to be a real challenge for me at the moment. He does show enthusiasm for bleeding me dry of cash though. At every opportunity.

Hampton Court! Cool! I haven't been for about 5 years since my free 'art card' pass stopped. That's despite living 15 mins away and playing rugby very close by most wkends.

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I never go inside - I just wander about the grounds as 'tis expensive to go in the house itself. Or maybe I should switch with next week, when I'll have been paid and can afford it. It's just a nice ride on the 57 over from Streatham.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight I am making Lasagne.
Tomorrow a.m. watching boy play rugby then he watches me play.
p.m. managed to get rid of both offspring at sleepovers which start mid-pm - so hoping to go out with the missus, except she is not well with v.heavy cold and has lost her voice. I wager that she'll rally
Sunday - usual I guess. Homework, guitar, cooking. A sister or two may come over, I hope. I am beginning to be unable to help with Maths homework - quadratic equations pretty much embarrassed me last night. I haven't done those since i was 14, and I was crap at maths then.

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight I am fixing my brain and drinking tea. Oh, and playing F.E.A.R. on the PC which everyone says is awesome, for those who care. Sat: chore day then out for friend Julia's bday I think - I'll probably see you out, Mark!

Sunday, yes, recovering from Sunday's ills and probably watching f00tb@11.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

Oi! you can't stalk me two weekends in a row!

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Two weekends that you've noticed . . .

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

*shudder*

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Taking my big old chroma analog synthesiser over to this guy in Penrith who has a great rep as a repair tech.

starting to get the urge to play some instruments and make some music again, after spending the last 10 days getting ridiculously obsessed over this.

Still feeling down & glum.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Go for it, Norm. Prog NEEDS you!

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe we should start a 'Cooler music fileshare system, whereby we finish the pieces of music that various of us can't be bothered to get working on, due to depression, bad mood, grumpiness and general blahness, etc.

Like I'll get Meet Market over to Gooblar, and Pash can send me lovely synthscapes for me to dribble pretty harmonies over, etc.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

I have actually got a 1/2 done synthpop sketch I was thinking about sending your way, as it happens. It sounds like girly kraftwerk, it's great! I'm just stuck w/it.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

I've certainly got oodles of unfinished (and unfinishable) stuff I'd be happy to unload on some unsuspecting brave soul.

This weekend: trying to simultaneously rest and rest and recover and also come up with 2 hours worth of stuff to talk about re: winesburg.

"Hands"

Mitya, I kiss you.

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

If you don't mind my having a go, Pash, I'd be delighted to!

Anyone else? Dr. C, if you need 60s garage/psych/freakbeat bass, I'm your girl.

I'm also looking for a male singer for a new new song, think it may need to involve a bit of falsetto.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

The person I had in mind to sing it when I wrote it would probably never agree - also it would be impolitic, I think. :-(

Gooblar, I'll try to get Meet Market in some kind of a shape for you to make a contribution during this weekend - if you'll find something for me to have a go at.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

emsk - how old teenager? Yours? Boy/girl?

haha no, not mine! god. if i had one i would leave it on a bus or something. she's a girl, 14, i met her on one of the fsc work weekends when she was there with her mum. we have excellent plans: i'm going to get her at the crack of dawn tomorrow (well 9.30 but UGH), we're spending the day wandering around camden markets, then coming home at 4 or 5, cooking something then eating it and some ice cream while watching don't look now and heathers, then sunday we're wandering brick lane and spitalfields then seeing run lola run at the prince charles then going for noodles in chinatown. should be good!

tonight... flatmate and i are trying to find something to do, as she's got someone to look after her little boy so she's FREE on a friday night. both of us quite fancy seeing babel but it is at least £8 everywhere and that rankles: can't even remember the last time i paid that for a gig!

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, suddenly I have remembered - TISSP! - your doppelganger was doing sound last night. His beard was a slightly different shade, but other than that, he could have been your brother.

SIMON!?!? YOU FOUND SIMON!?!

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

I'm also looking for a male singer for a new new song, think it may need to involve a bit of falsetto.

I do a mean Justin Timberlake.

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't ask his name.

No, not a Trousersnake thing, at all. Can't explain it without revealing the person I originally wanted to sing it. Though you can have a go, if you fancy.

(I should just ask if Original Person would do it, but, like I said, it would be impolitic, and I'm not even sure if he's speaking to me.)

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

I was thinking that Babel looked like hell on earth, but Peter Bradshaw in the Guardian hates it, so it can't be all bad.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

**Anyone else? Dr. C, if you need 60s garage/psych/freakbeat bass, I'm your girl.**

That would be great! As I said, I'm thinking of doing something, but I prob need to get out of one of my other bands first. That may well happen as you know! I'm thinking a mix of Rain Parade/Tomorrow/Televison/Cramps/The Standells/Only Ones/Wimple Winch/all Nuggets bands ever - or something like that!

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Oh I see emsk. Didn't think you had a teenager, but what do I know?

What's fsc?

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Friday, 19 January 2007 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

I spent much of my mid to late 20s playing in bands like that in NYC, so I've certainly got a soft spot for it.

(It's very easy, as there are essentially only 3 or 4 basslines - Taxman, Rain, You Ain't No Friend Of Mine and .... err... I've forgotten what the fourth one was, but I'm sure it would come back to me. Wait, no - You're Gonna Miss Me)

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

Simon thing was a joke, don't worry :)

― you win again, gravity! (tissp), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

This Trans Am record is great to do hard sums to. I just wish my boss would stop interrupting me when I get a good groove on.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:10 (nineteen years ago)

Ha - yes! Not many guitar bits either really - you need :

1) those Chuck Berry moves for the solos (where you bend up a tone to the next string and chuck in loads of double stops)

2) Bo Diddley beat!

3) Sort of Myxolodian thing in D or A using sus2 and sus 4 chords

4) a few pentatonic riffy things with or without fuzz.

5) Some nice pedals

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Then you just need blokey what alternately snarls soulfully or yelps like he got fire ants packed in his rectum and a belly full o SOUL, a powerhouse drummer with hair like Animal off the Muppets and away we go!

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, you also have to have the cute slow song for the gurls - you know, like Little Black Egg or something.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Oh I see emsk. Didn't think you had a teenager, but what do I know?

i am accumulating children despite not having any. this seems to be the perfect situation as i get to hang out with them without actually having to be responsible for them for 20 years or whatever.

What's fsc?

ed's forest people: fsc.org.uk . brilliant stuff. i am hopefully doing my staff training this year then i'll get to hang out with LOTS of kids.

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Posh kids, though?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 19 January 2007 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, going to the library sucked out whatever remaining energy I had. Back home in bed.

K8, I'm sure I'll be able to find a fragment or two that you could lend a hand to.

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

x-post : I'll have a look at the fsc site. Never heard of them.

I have to say that all in all teenagers are fantastic. At least mine are. Sometimes.

xx-post - yes snarly singer a must. Although authentic brit-psych requires that he can do a twee voice too for the song about teapots, and can do that 'clothes-peg pinching his nose' voice for the song about Dear Old Uncle Ernie.

I'm not sure about the Animal drummer. I would really like a Charlie Watts 'virtually motionless' type. And he must have a fag in his mouth the whole time.

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

(Usually with drummers you end up taking what you can get. I've worked with both types, and I always prefer the Animal drummers. Actually, what I really like is the flopping about, staring up at the pretty lights singing along with the songs drummer.)

Haha ha ha ha ha, though with the song about the teapot and the song about Uncle Ernie, we are just going to turn into the Dukes of Stratosphear, aren't we? (Not sure I like what that makes me, but hey.)

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, wait, no that's fine. I'd be The Red Curtain which would be great.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm, I'm finally more coherent. Perhaps. Morning all. I get to review the Jesu for Plan B = oh lovely world!

Oh, BTW -- there is a strong chance I'll be in London in early March, maybe for a week. No, really.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Also, clothes are very important. Drainpipe trousers, chelsea boots, paisley shirts and waistcoats are urgent and key. Except for the dummer - if he's an Animal type, stripey shirt is a must. If he's a Charlie Watts type, he must wear some kind of Victorian outfit - possibly even a soldier's uniform of the first world war.

(Don't forget our concept album about the First World War, very very important.)

x-post - really? Excellent!

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Oh I know who the drummer would be - he's more Charlie Watts than Animal, but does sing along when he's not smoking.

Well, yes DoS have gone before - I just like all that stuff! They're a bit fancy and well-arranged though - I'd like to just bash it out!

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

If only I were thinner, I could dig out all of my mad paisley dresses and Barbarella boots. Sigh.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

really? Excellent!

I know! I just need to get clearance from work. More on this as it happens (if it does, I don't want to get my hopes up too high yet).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Posh kids, though?

Okay, ten minutes research has made it clear that I'm talking out my arse here.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

This Trans Am record is great t

I'm pretty sure all their other albums were on those dvdrs i sent you.
Norman would love Trans Am.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

I will take a look and see if they are there.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

Cranberry soda, bread and spicy pickle does not a (healthy) dinner make, people. Just in case you were wondering...

(groooaann)

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

x-post : I'll have a look at the fsc site. Never heard of them.

I have to say that all in all teenagers are fantastic. At least mine are. Sometimes.

ha. i suspect i was 50% fantastic, 50% total fucking nightmare. that was because i was so BORED though, there was hardly anyone good to hang out with. once i left where we lived, i stopped being bored.

Posh kids, though?

Okay, ten minutes research has made it clear that I'm talking out my arse here.

good! i had just typed out a snarky response.

Oh, BTW -- there is a strong chance I'll be in London in early March, maybe for a week. No, really.

yay!

ok, for my tea i have had:

ice cream
cake
a cup of tea

what's missing from this picture?

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

BOUZE.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

A-HA! yes, you are right. i should be tidying up too. but i am listening to the pretty tunes and the tunes are on the computer and the mess is in a different room...

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

whew! seem to have extracted myself from a pissing match on ILM

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Sod tidying up. I'm wondering if I should get takeaway for supper or if I should make nummy soup. Except I keep forgetting that I've got no money until next week. So I should make soup, and keep the money I've got in my pocket for tomorrow night when I will want to go out shoegazing.

What pissing match? I've just been looking at the dronerock threads on ILM lately. There are certain names that if I see them on a thread, I just back right out and stop reading.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

Just a little tiny one, and with someone who I think is actually relatively new - I only noticed the name recently. I'm sure the thread will eventually attract the usual tr0lls.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Will the 'cooler finally be coming on age on Monday, k8? we've passed 1000 posts...

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I haven't made up mine mind yet.

I like the look of this flyer:

http://www.circa60-design.co.uk/seventh-swords-flyer.jpg

It looks like the sort of thing I should *definitely* be going to.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

the who thread? youre fighting with dadaismus!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a lover not a fighter. It wasn't a fight, just daftness

― Tom D. (Dada), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

Please leave that stuff on the original thread, I don't want it here.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

dah, i've only been around two or three years - i don't know who all these old-timers are.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

I've dropped all that Dadaismus shit, it was irritating me

― Tom D. (Dada), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

He posts on the watercooler all the time!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Friday, 19 January 2007 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Never mind me, I'm going to post things that I posted on other threads a long, long time ago here, to remind myself that sensible things once came out of my mouth.

When you're lonely and miserable and feeling alienated, it's easy to become bitter and lash out at those who are not feeling the way you are, or offering advice you feel is unhelpful.

What I was trying to say yesterday with my perhaps off-topic diversion is that human beings are social animals. It is the most natural thing in the world to crave sex, companionship, etc. The only thing *worse* than feeling lonely and alienated is feeling *guilty* for wanting or craving sex or companionship or physical contact. That way lies neurosis and a downward spiral of self hatred. Because it's impossible to not think about sex, or at least aquiring the companionship of other humans, and those who try - monks with X-ray vision or whatever - become even more fucked up and repressed.

Stop feeling guilty about being lonely; start doing things that connect you to other people.

-- kate (masonicboom), October 29th, 2003 10:08 AM. (kate)

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

OTM

― g00blar (gooblar), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

Boy, though, have I changed in 5 years, to become the person I used to hate:

Low Self Esteem

But then I think about the experiences that happened in those five years, and I don't think it's surprising that I turned out so bitter.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Friday, 19 January 2007 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

kate you're talking about it like this is the end - "turned out" - you're not even at the halfway point. there's time for circumstances to change, time for you to change if you want to. but you were right 5 years ago: nothing's gonna change if you don't change it.

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 19 January 2007 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

erg that sounds snappish; it wasn't meant to.

― emsk ( emsk), Friday, 19 January 2007 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

The little Cs and groutlings should do fsc. It made me the man I am today.

Riding back on the train, great holiday. I seem to have avoided the hangover I richly deserve, but I still feel a little drunk, so maybe alkyhell is coming. I danced like a loon last night to some truly awful music including, I vaguely recall a euro-house remix of money for nothing, I may have done air guitar. Kissed the pretty barmain from the H3nnu stall too. A good night all round.

― Ed (dali), Saturday, 20 January 2007 09:21 (nineteen years ago)

And junior pashminas as well, I forget who has kids.

― Ed (dali), Saturday, 20 January 2007 09:29 (nineteen years ago)

The little Cs and groutlings should do fsc. It gave me the hair I have today.

No further questions m'lud

― === temporary username === (Mark C), Saturday, 20 January 2007 09:50 (nineteen years ago)

Blimey it's going to take a while to recover from this holiday, anyone want to bet on how long I'll be off with the post-traumatic flu this week.

I checked my work emails last night and it looks like we are living in 'Interesting Times' again. good job I have a few more ideas about grad school and I'd like someone to tell me a little about the GRE.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 22 January 2007 08:16 (nineteen years ago)

Morning everyone! The big shared drive that everybody uses is down, so now would be a BAD time to phone BG about your gas bill. I will be spending the spare time that I can't do any work reading . . . oh, it's back up again. Shit.

― Johnney B English (stigoftdump), Monday, 22 January 2007 08:54 (nineteen years ago)

there's. no. heating. brrr

They've changed the GRE since I did it a few years ago (wow, it was 2001; how time flies), but it wasn't too bad. There's a section devoted to maths, which if I remember right is goes up to A-Level standard in difficulty (but isn't all that taxing), bits where you have to work out equivalent relationships between groups of words, 'fill in the blanks' questions from childhood with bigger words, and I think you have to write an essay now, too. You go to one of the testing sites dotted around the country (I went to the Manchester one), they sit you in front of a computer and it throws up these questions at you for the length of the exam. Afterwards, it sends your score onto the universities you're applying to, and that's about it.

I'd get one of the big GRE books you can find in Borders - they tend to be packed with sample questions and it gives you a good idea about what to expect.

― carson dial (carson dial), Monday, 22 January 2007 09:01 (nineteen years ago)

welcome back, ed!

one of my friends took all of last week off with "the flu."

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Monday, 22 January 2007 09:36 (nineteen years ago)

Friends

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 22 January 2007 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

Morning there! On the big ol' emotional rollercoaster again.

― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:03 (nineteen years ago)

morning! oof, overslept. ohwell, it's not like i have anything to be late for today.

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:16 (nineteen years ago)

Hi folks. Still sick, but finally getting a bit better, I think. My Winesburg seminar is coming together--it's at 2 today, so a couple more hours of organizational work and I should be fine. Just want so badly to be completely well again--I'm sick of being sick.

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:31 (nineteen years ago)

Just asked my boss in London what news there was on our merger. He said our new overlords are going full-steam ahead, aiming to be finished by end-March. I asked what meant in practice, and based on what he said, the natural conclusion (to me) would be that the elimination of my function. Hm.

Boy, this stuff is nerve-wracking.

― i'll mitya halfway (mitya), Monday, 22 January 2007 10:36 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning! Welcome back, Ed. Your holiday sounds ace.

I had a good weekend, which was much needed. Got all dressed up on Saturday night and decided to go out anyway to the Windmill, determined to have a Good Time. Thought "what did I used to do way back when, going to gigs by myself? Oh yeah, I took a sketchbook and drew when I was bored." So there's me sitting in the midst of a prog/psych/drone/kraut night drawing paisley and suddenly every Dirty Dronerock Boy in the world wants to talk to me - and I made friends! (Maybe some day DDB's who don't have girlfriends will talk to me, but one step at a time.) Even got recognised by a Shimuras fan, and Tim asking when I'm going to start gigging again.

The music was really good - Kontacte were lovely kraut/drone/shoegaze over a drum machine. Diagonal were total Kerr-music - prog-jazz-kraut-funk with 7/4 time signatures and stuff. The Falling Spikes were a Velvet Underground tribute band (I'm not sure if they meant to be - though they probably did, due to the name) and Litmus... oh dear lord. Again, treading the fine line between "inspired by" and "tribute band" but they were HAWKLORDS and even did a cover of Astronomy Domine in a Hawkwind stylee which was the best thing ever.

I got rather too drunk because the DDB bought me too many drinks, threw up on myself a little and fell off my barstool. Happy days.

Sunday, when my hungover receded, I recorded two songs. Hurrah.

Things are looking up.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

excellent, sounds like a blast.

anything happening this week/weekend, apart from sunday, obviously.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds excellent, Kate!

I had a bizarre evening on Sat involving a gushing nosebleed that wouldn't stop.

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:03 (nineteen years ago)

i heard ed podium danced to funky house

― Storefront Church (688), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:09 (nineteen years ago)

xxxpost That sounds like an awesome weekend; glad to hear you're back in the saddle again, or something.

Welcome back, Ed! More skiing stories please!

Details on nosebleed, Dr C?

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

The little Cs and groutlings should do fsc.
-- Ed (dal...) (webmail), Saturday 9:21 AM. (later) (link)

Will look into this..

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

We bought a fishtank on Sunday, but no fish.

I played a bit in the afternoon, couldn't really get into it, though.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:16 (nineteen years ago)

Got a knock on Sat morning playing Rugby - fair bit of blood, but it stopped.
Went out Sat night - having pizza and bent down to pick up mobile phone which I'd dropped under the table. It erupted - wouldn't stop for ages, all over the table & various cloths donated by waiter. It finally slowed and stopped just as I was getting pretty worried and thinking about a 999 call. Not great really.

― Dr.C (Dr.C), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:21 (nineteen years ago)

Nosebleed, oh nose!

Oh how nice, the DDB has friended me on MySpace. They were a lovely couple.

Gooblar, I've demoed the vocals on Meet Market for you, I'll send it over shortly.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

haha kate that sounds like a wicked weekend!

me and my teen had fun. god, she can shop. was i like that? i don't think i was. apart from the badge fetish, though mine were all "badge fetishists against the bomb" and hers are all "better pissed off than pissed on". but hey. as we'd predicted, she wants to move into our flat (can imagine it looks like 24/7 fun and even kindlas of glamorous from her perspective).

so yeah. we had a top time in camden (it's nice going there with someone who isn't all "gah, camden, meh, fuckin tourists") apart from getting bloodyfucking ID'ed in sainsbury's but even that was funny afterwards, once it had stopped being irritating. she didn't want to come in the charity shop with me at first - "ugh! no!" - but she came out with 3 or 4 things and me with 0. don't look now totally freaked her out, heheh, it sounds like she usually watches more blockbuster horror smashes than psychological creepouts like this. and omg, i'd completely forgotten what a good-looking film it is. it's just gorgeous, and wicked detailed. after heathers, she has a new crush on the christian slater of 20 years ago, hurrah.

brick lane/spitalfields was a bit more stressy cos it was so crowded, but also she'd spent all her money and more so it was a bit easier. anyway it was a success i think, we're gonna do it again. i am a bit tigered though.

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

Awww, you have probably just totally completely changed her life (for the excellently good) in a single weekend. I can't imagine how much I would have enjoyed something like that at a similar age.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:30 (nineteen years ago)

after heathers, she has a new crush on the christian slater of 20 years ago, hurrah.

This gives me faith in the younger generation.

― g00blar (gooblar), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

.. Did look into it..

AMber does the occassional Brownie Camp Holiday, last time it was a week away. Mum nervous, but she loved it and said a lovely "thank you for letting me go" afterwards. Alice will be of brownie age this year, so maybe they'll both go off for the week later this year. And maybe Mum and Dad might manage to sneak off somewhere ourselves.

― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

Quite frankly, GRL, I was so drunk that I would have danced to anything, possibly even Abba, Coldplay or the Smiths.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

Ambrose will probably come up with flickr and youtube evidence of this, shortly.

― Ed (dali), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:37 (nineteen years ago)

When you are on holiday, there is an automatic taste barrier which is lifted on dancing material. I can remember being so drunk that I was podium dancing to bad Dutch techno on holiday in Amsterdam several years ago.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

welcome back to Ed, that sounds like a great holiday. Lucy here in the office has just come back from a skiing holiday and she has brought chocs in so will be straight over to her desk post haste after this post.

Kate, that sounds like a blast - Kontakte added me on myspace and yr description of them sounds so cool. must check out their stuff. Like their name too, derived as it is from a 1970s bbc German language course!

Emma, yr weekend sounds cool as well, glad to hear the teenager had fun!

But oh dear Dr. C, poor you, I was wincing just reading about it!

I had a fantastic weekend. Asia and I went to a Italian restaurant in north Oxford called Luna Caprese...food good, speshly a nummy tiramisu (such big portions of it too!). But oh dear! The decor! Like a British 1970s approximation of what an Italian restaurant should look like (it may not have changed *since* the 70s, thinking about it). This morning I discovered it is also the fave restaurant of our company President!

After that over the road to the Rose & Crown for my friend Ros's 30th. The landlord Andrew is one of those Oxford 'characters'. Bit of a spency pub and full of posh ppl but that's north Oxford all over!

Didn't see Johnney B - BUT DID HE SEE ME?

Yesterday I cooked a salmon stir fry with oyster sauce. One of the best things about being attached after being single for so long is having someone to cook for. I can't be arsed to make an effort just for myself, and I forget that when I *do * make the effort I'm actually reasonably good at it. Oh and omg, Camper van Beethoven is *such* good music to cook to! Speshly all those quirky ska instrumentals they do!

― New Mark H (New MarkH), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

If you dance to Coldplay because you're drunk then I think perhaps it's time you signed the pledge!
x-posts

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

Luckily it didn't come up

― Ed (dali), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

Like their name too, derived as it is from a 1970s bbc German language course!

Oh I assumed it was from the Stockhausen piece!

― The Vintner's Lipogram (OleM), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

It is indeed from Stockhausen:

kontakte take their moniker from Karlheinz Stockhausen's infamous 1958 minimal electronic composition - 'Kontakte - fur elektronische Klange (Klavier und Schlagzeug).

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Monday, 22 January 2007 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

Hello all. Isn't it officially the most depressing day of the year or summat today then? I have just paid my tax, calculated by myself (er slightly worrying but hey always do something you're afraid of!) and now have nowt in my bank account. Oh and so many deadlines, it's quite laughable. On the plus side Noel Fielding brushed past me in a pub in Camden on Friday night. I may never wash the clothes I was in again - maybe he left some DNA and I can clone him. Mmmmmmmm.

― Nobodys Prawn (Nobodysprawn), Monday, 22 January 2007 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

Hrrmmm, I think that "most depressing day" thing is wrong, because I was far more depressed last Monday. Today things seem to be looking up.

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Monday, 22 January 2007 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

It is time:

UK Watercooler I got 21 seconds to flow, I got 21 seconds to go

― Shoes and Shoegazeability (kate), Monday, 22 January 2007 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

Awww, you have probably just totally completely changed her life

haha i dunno. she's pretty sorted anyway i think, her mum's wicked. (you never realise that when you're 14, i guess.) but yeah, i would have loved it too. more than anything i'd've loved someone to sneak me tapes of noisy indie guitar pop and she definitely needs some musical intervention: she got me to download something i'd never heard that she's into and it turned out to be some fuckawful orange-faced-women-provincial-club thing. but she likes lots of good things too, and we played some other stuff and now i know which direction to go in: less abrasive than pixies, more songy than broken social scene, sweeter than decemberists. this is gonna be FUN! she says she loved everything on the cd i made for her last year (looking back at the tracklisting after this weekend's conversations, i accidentally seem to have got it just right). so on to number 2.

my horoscope today says i must get things done and not procrastinate or i will miss the opportunity for the cosmic help that is lined up for me today. so what should i do?

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 22 January 2007 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

waaaah!

― emsk ( emsk), Monday, 22 January 2007 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

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