What is the most famous musical artist you've never heard?

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I was talking to Sasha Frere-Jones last night, and (after telling me that he'd never heard the Adverts) he told me that he'd never heard Pearl Jam, either. So I started wondering who the most famous musical artist I've never heard might be.....right now, my best guess is Tupac, though I vaguely remember seeing some video with him and Dr. Dre. (the *skinny* Dr. Dre, I think) rapping over some old Zapp song once. (I honestly believe Tupac never had an actual hit during his lifetime, and that he wasn't really famous at all until he died -- sort of like Selena or that Sublime guy -- and nobody has ever proved me wrong to my satisfaction.) Anyway, maybe there are some even more famous musical artists (jazz or classical or blues guys, especially) I've never heard, but I just can't think of them right now. Tricia Romano told me this morning that she's never heard Husker Du. Anyway. You know what to do, right?

chuck eddy, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:10 (twenty-three years ago)

well, we done this before, but its funny the artists you mention, because i dont think i've ever heard either pearl jam or tupac either (the 2nd one seems a huge oversight on my part)

gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:16 (twenty-three years ago)

Critical darlings you've never heard.
The Best Music You Never Heard
i have never heard 'nevermind the bollocks'

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Probably lots of current pop artists - at least until I get around filling out the next Focus Group ballot. But the first name that springs to mind for me is Maria Callas.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:18 (twenty-three years ago)

...around to filling out the next Focus Group ballot...

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:19 (twenty-three years ago)

I know I've heard Tupac, but only just barely. And I can't identify him. This scene has replayed many times:

Friend (commenting on music at party): "What a loss."
Me: "Who is this?"
Friend: (look of disgust on face): "Tupac, man."

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:23 (twenty-three years ago)

I've never knowingly heard any Yes.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:25 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't believe for a second that Sasha Frere-Jones has never heard any Pearl Jam. I totally believe that Mark Richard-san wouldn't be able to identify Tupac, though.

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Always a good question. *thinks* Actually, I think it might have to be something recent more than anything else!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:33 (twenty-three years ago)

(I honestly believe Tupac never had an actual hit during his lifetime, and that he wasn't really famous at all until he died -- sort of like Selena or that Sublime guy -- and nobody has ever proved me wrong to my satisfaction.)

http://www.rockonthenet.com/artists-t/2pac_main.htm

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Tupac has always been inescapable on bay area radio. I think his appeal was very regional. They STILL never play anything from the west coast on east coast urban radio.

Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:38 (twenty-three years ago)

So were Tupac's alleged pre-humous top ten hits regional, or just completely forgettable, or Slipknot-or-whoever-type things with high chart positions but zero radio play, or what? I was listening to pop radio fairly obsessively in Philadelphia in the early '90s (and not ignoring urban-so-called radio, either), and watching MTV as well, and i don't remember them at all. And apparently I'm not alone.

chuck eddy, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, Snoop and Dre and Warren G and Digital Underground all got airplay in the east in the early '90s. (And yeah, I know Tupac had some connection Humpty Hump et. al., but that doesn't mean I remember him being there.) Though in general, I can never remember which rap guys are west coast and which are east anyway, and I've never cared much one way or the other. (And I've never been entirely convinced that the two coasts had especially distinctive sounds, either.)

chuck eddy, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:46 (twenty-three years ago)

I've never heard Fugazi. I've never heard Sasha/Digweed. I've never heard Ashanti, but I've seen her body & face all over the place. I've never heard Fred Durst say anything that was worth hearing. I've never heard Cheval, Aphex Theory, or Meshuggah, but judging by the taste in music shared by the people who recommend them to me, I have a feeling I won't like them. But I'll still give 'em a chance.

nickalicious, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:47 (twenty-three years ago)

i have never heard (to the best of my knowledge): c. parker, phil glass, curtis mayfield (unless some subconscious cultural awareness of the "superfly" theme counts), the byrds, the "three tenors", charlotte church, most pop country (notably garth brooks), coldplay, u-ziq, the germs, big star, the doobie brothers, gravediggaz, the cold crush brothers, charley patton, linkin park, or megadeth.

tupac started as a digital underground dancer, no? my girlfriend, who was in high school at the time, distinctly remembers seeing "california love" (the song with dre/zapp yr talking about in the first post, chuck) on mtv around 95/96. i have vague recollections of seeing the video for "i get around" too, but i wasn't watching much mtv in those days.

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:53 (twenty-three years ago)

In Boston, "Keep Your Head Up", "I Get Around", "Dear Mama" and "California Love" were inescapable, particularly if you listened to urban (ie, black) radio. Also, "California Love" owned MTV for most of 1996.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:55 (twenty-three years ago)

I've never knowingly heard Happy Mondays, Primal Scream, or the Manics, and I had no idea that Sasha was a dude.

dan (dan), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:56 (twenty-three years ago)

I remember california love and I was scared of hip-hop at the time. I remember being in europe in 97 and seeing the video THERE too, right next to the spice girls one.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:56 (twenty-three years ago)

oh yeah, i've never heard the manics or sasha/digweed either. i HAVE heard paul oakenfold much to my horror.

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 18:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I haven't heard a few of the ones jess mentions, but i never thought that the gravediggaz were so v. famous anyway. The rise of napster et al. filled up remaining holes in my musical exposure (at least in a superficial way) very quickly.

Until a few days ago I'd never heard Flipper but Dave Q's constant reference induced me to check them out and I'm very glad I did.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Outside of Christian Marclay's cut-up in More Encores, I've never heard any Serge Gainsbourg.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:01 (twenty-three years ago)

And I still haven't heard anything by the UK "Pop Idols" contingent, though I have made a point of checking out all of the big UK DJ bores.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:07 (twenty-three years ago)

In Boston, "Keep Your Head Up", "I Get Around", "Dear Mama" and "California Love" were inescapable, particularly if you listened to urban (ie, black) radio.

Well, nevermind then.

Kris (aqueduct), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:09 (twenty-three years ago)

jess, you need the Superfly soundtrack. Really.

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Sasha & Digweed, Graham Parker, Latin Playboys, Gentle Giant, Dat Nigga Daz, Phoebe Snow, Toni Childs, Heatmiser, D.R.I., the Stranglers, Jeff Beck solo, Kix

Tupac was huge in Atlanta, and I know he had hits in Iceland and Italy before he died ("California Love" was still all over Italian radio when he died), so I'm pretty sure he had hits in America.

James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:18 (twenty-three years ago)

hstencil: people have been telling me that for years! it's just one of those records that always gets shoved to the back of the list in favor of new shit. (like most records not released in a given year, sadly.)

i have never heard toni braxton either (she was just being interviewed on the teevee.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:20 (twenty-three years ago)

So what are your blind spots, hstencil?

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:20 (twenty-three years ago)

jess, I think there's a nice CD reissue of it available now? Not sure...

Also, you don't strike me as a particularly "guitar power pop" kinda guy (I wonder why?), but hey man Big Star's pretty dang good.

Same with Charley Patton. Except, yeah, he's not "guitar power pop."

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:22 (twenty-three years ago)

HOW ON EARTH COULD YOU HAVE YOU MISSED HEARING TONI BRAXTON?????

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:23 (twenty-three years ago)

blind spots: probably anything on the radio. Since I moved to NYC and sold my car, I'm really not informed on pop culture (as I don't have cable). Funny, seeing as this is like the media capital of the world and all.

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:23 (twenty-three years ago)

I never even heard *OF* Cheval, Heatmiser, or Dat Nigga Daz until now, and I have no idea who they are, so I doubt they're exactly famous. Gravediggaz (who I have heard of) and the Cold Crush Brothers (who I've actually *heard*) aren't all that famous, either. (Even though, now that I think of it, I bet more people have heard of the Cold Crush Brothers than of Flipper.) BOTH Sashas mentioned in this thread are male, I believe. I also believe I heard one or two Manic Street Preachers songs once. I believe they sounded like the Alarm-- who I don't remember much about otherwise either, come to think of it.

chuck eddy, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I've never heard Toni Braxton!

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:28 (twenty-three years ago)

*boggles* Have you at least heard Anita Baker?

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, she sang "Caught Up in the Rapture", right?

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:33 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm much more familiar with 80s r&b than early-mid 90s (thanx, mom.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I've never heard Kix! (sorry Chuck)

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Anita Baker is the direct precursor to Toni Braxton, right down to the sultry alto mush-mouth style. Toni Braxton songs that you may know without realizing it include "Unbreak My Heart", "You're Making Me High", "You Mean The World To Me", "Breathe Again", "Another Sad Love Song", "He Wasn't Man Enough" and "Spanish Guitar".

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Mr. Eddy forgets Kurt Cobain wearing the Flipper t-shirt on SNL, and Flipper's subsequent arrival into the Cobain reliquary (beside Meat Puppets and the Vaselines)

Dat Nigga Daz probably doesn't really count as famous but I remember people saying at the time how he was the one who was 'really' behind the success of The Chronic, Doggystyle, etc., and so I always found it amusing that his record did absolutely nothing in terms of sales or airplay.


Toni Braxton is what Anita Baker would've sounded like if Babyface had gotten ahold of her.

James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:40 (twenty-three years ago)

When does Jody Watley come into all this? Granted, I've heard her...

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:56 (twenty-three years ago)

"Unbreak My Heart"...damn, rumbled.

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 19:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I've never heard Faith Hill, Avril Lavigne, Andrea Bocelli or Buddy Bolden. I would very much like to hear Buddy Bolden, but I don't think there's that much I can do about that.

Douglas, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 20:01 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, avril lavignee, anything on so-called country radio these days...i don't know how anyone keeps what's what straight on "modern rock radio."

given their ubiquity, i can't say that i've NEVER heard a backstreet boys or n'sync song, but if i did, no one sent me the memo and now that i've finally heard the vines i can die a happy man.

*gack*

jq higgins, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 20:11 (twenty-three years ago)

I've never heard a single song by Wire.

Andy, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 20:16 (twenty-three years ago)

I would be able to say Avril Lavigne too, but I was on this bus to Disney World (long story) and the bus driver was playing the local "Lite FM" station and they played that "Complicated" song over and over again (yes, I did want to shoot myself).

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 20:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Off the top of my head: So Solid Crew, Galaxie 500, Insane Clown Posse, Tim Buckley, Husker Du, Steely Dan, Sugar, King Crimson, Future Sound Of London, Playgroup (unless you count DJ Kicks), and, er, ah, *ducks* ...Sugababes.

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 20:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh and Slick Rick!

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 20:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought I had never heard POD, Incubus, Linkin Park (but I can sure spell it) or Papa Roach. But then while watching the Mtv Vid awards I realized I knew every one of their songs and just had never paid attention.

Never really heard the Flying Burrito Brothers.

Carey, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 20:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I have never knowingly heard the Clientele.

Chuck, unless you are 5 years old which you are not, 2Pac did too have a hit in your lifetime, California Love still gets airplay to this day never mind back in the day. It's also just about the greatest single of the '90s, so hope to it and go buy the greatest hits already, cowboy.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 20:36 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't think I've ever actually listened to any Gong

James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 20:39 (twenty-three years ago)

...or for that matter not a bit of King Kong.

(see what I did there)

Carey, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 20:42 (twenty-three years ago)

King Kong's not really famous, but you need to hear Old Man on the Bridge.

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 20:44 (twenty-three years ago)

Michelle Branch

James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 20:47 (twenty-three years ago)

In Chuck's defense about "California Love" -- the only time I ever heard it was on whatever album it was on...er, whatever it was, I think I still have it somewhere. I remember it being all rightish.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 20:57 (twenty-three years ago)

wow...yeah, tupac/2pac was big well before california love and his subsequent offing. 2pacalypse was a REALLY big record and received massive radio & mtv support. california love was the lead track off the follow up (all eyes on me, maybe?).

gong, king kong, clientele and playgroup are considered famous?

(and yes, old man on the bridge is effing great)

jq higgins, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 21:13 (twenty-three years ago)

i have also never heard avril lavigne. i'm sure she's okay, but now it's just become This Thing. i dodged a bullet by running from the room the other night when nancy was watching sabrina the teenage witch where avril was guest rockin.

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 21:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Chuck, there was a period when little kids in search of Tupac lyrics would regularly come in to the public library where I work, here in Philadelphia. I don't know what sort of airplay he got around here, but he obviously made an impression on someone.

I've never heard Avril Lavergne.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 21:22 (twenty-three years ago)

d00d that room wz the hottest room in the western hemisphere at that moment and you cut and ran!!

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 21:25 (twenty-three years ago)

i mean sabrina the teenage witch!! sterling to thread!!

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 21:26 (twenty-three years ago)

pretty sure I haven't heard any of these: múm, fela kuti, tony conrad, einstürzende neubauten, bauhaus, the jesus lizard

andrew c (andrew), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 21:27 (twenty-three years ago)

hahahahahaha! Tony's not famous!

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 21:28 (twenty-three years ago)

No the Clientele are NOT famous but it was the best I could do. I know everyone famous.

Ally (mlescaut), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 21:31 (twenty-three years ago)

The Clientele are really excellent, personally and performance-wise.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 21:33 (twenty-three years ago)

grrr... sinkerrrr....

anyway sabrina had usher on a few years ago which was like waaay better.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 21:36 (twenty-three years ago)

but he played with faust :)

andrew c (andrew), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 21:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Usher didn't play with Faust! But I'm sure that would be "da bombshit" if it happened.

Serious, if Tony walked down 57th Street right now, no one would recognize him (except maybe me, assuming I was on the street right now and not in my office), whereas if Usher did...

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 21:41 (twenty-three years ago)

i wd!! i interviewed him!! assuming i wasn't like 147i56§02uyer22347856 miles away and naked

mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 21:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Okay, so if you and I were on 57th Street and saw Tony, fine, but like 99.99% of the people on this street would figure him for another middle-aged tourist. Arista Records' HQ is right across the street, btw.

Also, oneupmanship: I stayed at his house for a weekend!

hstencil, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 21:47 (twenty-three years ago)

I may have heard Nickelback, Linkin Park, Staind, or Sum 41 without realizing it. I still can't tell Pearl Jam from all the other grunge bands. I'm pretty sure I haven't heard Avril Lavigne yet.

Curt (cgould), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 22:00 (twenty-three years ago)

In Chuck's defense about "California Love" -- the only time I ever heard it was on whatever album it was on...er, whatever it was, I think I still have it somewhere.

Ned, you don't listen to the radio and you don't watch television. How is this a defense??????

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 22:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Wayne Newton, Alma Cogan, Billy Fury, the Four Freshmen, Nana Mouskouri, Yanni, Rosemary Clooney, James Last, Richard Clayderman, the Dubliners, Slim Whitman.

Andrew L (Andrew L), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 22:35 (twenty-three years ago)

As far as I know, I've never heard Yanni or Gwar.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 22:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm not sure what T. Rex sounds like or what songs they did.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 22:57 (twenty-three years ago)

I've never heard Jean-Michel Jarre.

Curtis Stephens, Tuesday, 19 November 2002 23:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Ned, you don't listen to the radio and you don't watch television. How is this a defense??????

A brilliant one! ;-) At the time I didn't get MTV at all, I will admit.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 23:31 (twenty-three years ago)

Jim Reeves (he's #24 on the Guiness British Hit Singles Acts Top100 of the 20th century, you know, far ahead of The Beach Boys and ABBA)

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 19 November 2002 23:36 (twenty-three years ago)

John Ottway

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

for good reason, i've only listened to the velvet underground once.

kephm, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 00:27 (twenty-three years ago)

John Cage

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 01:13 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't think I have ever heard Bauhaus but I dreamed I was playing on stage with them last night. It gave me the fear.

RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 01:20 (twenty-three years ago)

subculturally famous (in the US)/huge in England: Roxy Music
I don't think I've heard Trina at ALL (my loss surely, I need to go out and do a big fucking blowout hip-hop buying spree)

M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 01:24 (twenty-three years ago)

ROXY MUSIC??? That's the saddest thing I heard all day :(

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 01:35 (twenty-three years ago)

oh, my life's been going along fine, thanks

M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 01:38 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't think I've ever heard Autechre or Wu-Tang Clan. I've heard Ol' Dirty Bastard solo, though. Never heard Derek Bailey, he's famous around here, isn't he? I've also never heard Gong.

Arthur (Arthur), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 01:40 (twenty-three years ago)

famous? Autechre? some mishtake?

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 01:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, I thought they were. I keep reading about them. Aren't they more famous than John Otway?

Arthur (Arthur), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 02:09 (twenty-three years ago)

touché

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 02:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Famous Musical Artists (Relatively Speaking) I Have Not Heard Complete Songs / Movements / Magnum Opi From, Or Something Like That:

Tony Bennett
2Pac
Brian McKnight
that "Butterfly Kisses" guy
Dixie Chicks (NOT Shedaisy, surprisingly)
Andrea Bocelli
Charlotte Church
Insane Clown Posse
Bone Thugs-N-Harmony
Manheim Steamroller (phew!)
Garth Brooks (sorta)
Ted Nugent
Frank Sinatra (always the same damn bits, never the whole taco)
Jodeci
Mozart (!!! - at least, not knowingly)

Brought to you by Billboard.com (except for the last one).

I really wish I could include Toby Keith as well, but damn that piece of shit Ford commercial.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 02:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe there's something to this 2pac thing...

Matos -- I haven't really heard Roxy either, but surely you heard "More Than This" at some point (big '80s hit.) That used to play during MTV ads I think, but maybe before your time.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 02:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Michelangelo, Mark -- I weep. Drop me a line and we'll talk trades or something.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 02:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't believe you two haven't heard Roxy Music.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 03:03 (twenty-three years ago)

"Same with Charley Patton..."

A sad day to hear that one has not heard "High Water Everywhere parts 1&2".

Venus Glow (1411), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 03:41 (twenty-three years ago)

The only Led Zeppelin I've heard: Jimmy Page w/ P. Diddy.
The only Rolling Stones I've heard: Dr. Dre remix.

I've probably heard more than this but I am not aware of it. Also I don't think I've ever heard the Doors or Van Halen.

Honda (Honda), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 03:51 (twenty-three years ago)

ok actually i have heard songs by them, but I'd probably mix the bands all up.

Honda (Honda), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 03:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, I said I've heard "More than This" and prob. Avalon in the background somewhere but yeah Ned maybe we should do a trade.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 04:24 (twenty-three years ago)

i've never heard whitesnake, bread, wings, cream, boz scaggs, fugazi, gareth gates, yes, king crimson, genesis (except 'i can't dance' if that counts), iron maiden, jethro tull, magnetic fields (except 'chicken with its head cut off' which gave me little reason to persevere), apples in stereo, felt, dashboard confessional, alkaline trio, jimmy eat world etc. etc. etc.

minna (minna), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 04:26 (twenty-three years ago)

I've never heard any Cannibal Corpse to the best of my knowledge

James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 04:31 (twenty-three years ago)

For the most part there, Minna, you're doing all right.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 06:00 (twenty-three years ago)

No you're not.

I heard "Love Is the Drug" (?) once maybe ten years ago. The DJ claimed it was by 'Roxy Music'. I have never heard anything else by this 'Roxy Music' and have no reason to believe in their existence, other than the word of the British and I can tell you how bloody well that served my people.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 06:12 (twenty-three years ago)

I've never heard The Fall, Wire, Can, Gong, Goldie, or Anthony Braxton (none incredibly famous, but for the kind of music I listen to I would have thought to have come across them by now). I've also heard shockingly few Beatles songs, and never a complete album I think.

But really, how can someone go through the early 90s without accidentally hearing Pearl Jam and Toni Braxton?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 08:14 (twenty-three years ago)

subculturally famous (in the US)/huge in England: Roxy Music

I never really made that much effort to get into Roxy Music -- I like 'em and all, but every time I pick up one of their albums in a record store, I always end up putting it back. I know enough of their music to say that I've "heard" them, but I feel illiterate when surrounded by people going on about RM.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 08:50 (twenty-three years ago)

Wait a second, D.Popshots has never heard MOZART?????????

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:43 (twenty-three years ago)

as the Take That thread reminded me, I've never heard them.

H (Heruy), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Pulp.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 14:55 (twenty-three years ago)

''I've never heard The Fall, Wire, Can, Gong, Goldie, or Anthony Braxton (none incredibly famous, but for the kind of music I listen to I would have thought to have come across them by now). I've also heard shockingly few Beatles songs, and never a complete album I think.''

no anthony braxton!!! get on with the programme darlin' and purchase a copy of 'for alto' as soon as possible.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 15:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Pulp, Oasis, Suede - Britpop passed by without me hearing a single note

H (Heruy), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 15:12 (twenty-three years ago)

For all those Roxy Music philistines Michelangelo, Mark@pf and Sundar: I came late to their party as well. But they definitely were the most exciting band of the seventies. Read about their phantastic first album here in my blog in the series 40 years, 40 albums. Tonight I'll do 1988. I know that it is sad to plug myself but since nobody else does...

Of the UK top 20 of this week I have heard something by: #7 Sugababes, #8 Kylie Minogue, #10 Coldplay, #16 Santana, #18 Madonnna. That means I have never heard one song of 75% of all artists in the top 20. Not knowingly at least.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 15:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Sugababes, definitely no clue.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 15:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Not heard Sugababes, Tupac, Justin Timberlake, Pink, Blue, Andrew WK, Jay-Z, The Vines, Muse, Super Furry Animals or Wishbone Ash

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 15:42 (twenty-three years ago)

never heard: the greatful dead, parliament/funkadelic, the magnetic fields, geto boys (who i suspect i would love) dj shadow, sleater-kinny, blue cheer, the roots, jim o rourke, x, black flag, minutemen, can, the replacements, the residents (nor do i know which one is lovelorn pre-grunge, which situationist pranking), ar kane, the young gods, vanilla fudge or diggable planets.

prior to ilm, had never heard *of* boards of canada or neutral milk hotel. have still never heard either, and have in fact never heard mention of either outside ilm and so am still not entirely convinced they actually exist.

and yeah, california love notwithstanding, i had no idea that 2 pac was a huge star before he died.

adam b (adam b), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 15:48 (twenty-three years ago)

I've never heard Chicago. Apparently they were once incredibly popular...Has ANYBODY heard Chicago? I really want to know.

James Annett, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 15:55 (twenty-three years ago)

All but 8 of Tom's Focus Group selection. And that's the artists - I've only heard 3 of the songs.

That makes me feel really inadequate. Guess I should maybe listen to the radio a little more. But then you have to put up with the inane DJs.

Seems like most of the stuff on this thread falls into 3 categories:
- pop stuff (if you're an rockist old fogey like me)
- obscure stuff that a lot of people here still like anyway (Anthony Braxton!)
- stuff that has genuinely and inexplicably slipped through the net (Roxy, Curtis)

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 15:56 (twenty-three years ago)

James, you can account yourself happy of never having heard anything by Chicago. Other bands I would have liked never to have heard anything by: Eagles, Bee Gees, Grateful Dead to name but a few.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 16:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh there are so much more in those dreadful 70s: Moody Blues, Uriah Heep, Procol Harum, ELP etc.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 16:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Has ANYBODY heard Chicago?

Only on the radio about MMMMDCCLXXXII times.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 16:25 (twenty-three years ago)

My answer here used to be Hank Williams Sr but I bought a CD.

My new answer is JAMES TAYLOR! I wanted to hear him after the heated debate on the thread about him but why break the habit of a lifetime?

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 16:48 (twenty-three years ago)

I have so many that i haven't heard but I can't even remember. but a lot of those are the sort of singer songwriters like james taylor.

I'd like to hear leonard cohen...one day.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 17:02 (twenty-three years ago)

But really, how can someone go through the early 90s without accidentally hearing Pearl Jam and Toni Braxton?

I'm amazed you got through the nineties without hearing Goldie Jordan. Inner City Life was on every advert ever in 1994, either that or Alex Reece's 'Feel The Sunshine'.

(Actually, I don't know where you're posting from, and that only works if you were in the UK)


I've never heard any Yes either. Or early Genesis (i.e. Before Phil left the drums). Or Emmerson Lake and Palmer. I am prog rock backward.


I was 20 before I heard Carly Simon's 'You're So Vain'. It came on in a cafe somewhere and I recognised the lyrics from having read them so many times.

Anna (Anna), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 17:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Sham 69. Slade. There are plenty of other artists and groups that I've heard a small bit of, so I can't claim total ignorance.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 17:50 (twenty-three years ago)

it had been the Chameleons for a long time.

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 17:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Has ANYBODY heard Chicago? I really want to know.

Does ANYBODY really know what time it is? Does ANYBODY really care?

Peter Cetera, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 17:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I've heard of Spaceman 3, The Fall, Lilliput, Hanson, and too many others that I can't think of at the top of my head.

Micheline Gros-Jean (Micheline), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 18:11 (twenty-three years ago)

John Cage
-- Dom Passantino (killallgoths@hotmail.com), November 20th, 2002.

Really? Surely you've heard " 4'33" " and just didn't realize you were listening to John Cage...

^Diego^ (dhadis), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 18:23 (twenty-three years ago)

James are you sure you've never heard one of these in a grocery store or restaurant/pub at some point?

". . .If you see me walking by and the tears are in my eye, look away, baby, look away. . ."

Roxy Music, being a fictitious conspiracy and all, are clearly not the most famous artist I've never heard, who'd probably be someone like James Taylor or Barry Manilow.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 19:13 (twenty-three years ago)

NRBQ, Meat Loaf, Isley Brothers, Iron Madien, Thin Lizzy, Motorhead, Slayer, Flamin' Groovies, Tim/Jeff Buckley, 13th Floor Elevators (I've heard Spacemen 3, and Richard Lloyd covers)

(I've probably heard bits of the bands above, but never a whole song)

Also I've heard a few songs (like a rolling stone), but surprisingly little Bob Dylan.

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 19:56 (twenty-three years ago)

I've never heard any Hawkwind or Gong, either.

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 19:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Neil Young

Grateful Dead

, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:03 (twenty-three years ago)

please don't ever mention toni b.r-a/xxt/o/\n (unless you're a committed fan of course) -- search engines, lists and catalogues everywhere confuse her with another person whose name i'm not mentioning here to help combat bad artificial intelligence

george gosset (gegoss), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 20:13 (twenty-three years ago)

hehehe...yes, its very unfortunate goerge but v funny.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 21:58 (twenty-three years ago)

It seems there is a decent-sized contingent of hard rock fans who have never heard Juice Newton.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 22:26 (twenty-three years ago)

i try not to listen to any music evah as it wrecks my objectivity as a critic

mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 22:41 (twenty-three years ago)

yes but ILM won't allow you! the other day you were hearing SY albs (or so you said).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 22:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Re: Goldie, yeah, I'm in the U.S. so it was pretty easy for me to miss that.

And Julio, I will check that out (but only if you check out some Zorn!). Also I meant to say I hadn't heard any of Anthony Braxton's solo albums since I have him on Conference of the Birds.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 November 2002 23:03 (twenty-three years ago)

never heard any spice girls.

mel b, Wednesday, 20 November 2002 23:07 (twenty-three years ago)

jordan- i reckon if tower recs go down (well they have closed all their shops apart from a couple here in the UK) I'm expecting a big 'everything must go' sale. I'm sure loads of zorn will be flogged away. so yes, I will get to check it.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 21 November 2002 10:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Fairport Convention
Peter, Paul & Mary
Jay-Z
Vines
Hives
Streets
Faith No More
The Moody Blues

Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 21 November 2002 21:01 (twenty-three years ago)

I have never heard any Fairport Convention.. I am led to believe that I will like it lots

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 21 November 2002 23:51 (twenty-three years ago)

The Strokes and The New York Dolls

Julien Sandiford (Julien Sandiford), Friday, 22 November 2002 09:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Throw me in the Fairport Convention pile.


I've heard one Sugababes song. I downloaded "Freak Like Me" cuz Tom loved it so damn much and it cleaned up on the Focus Group. I was underwhelmed - prefer the hip-hop cover of "Cars" thats out now much more, and it ain't that great either (unlike Da Real One's "U Like Pina Coladas" which will be receiving at least one write in vote in the current Focus Group, dozens if there's any justice in the world).

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 22 November 2002 09:17 (twenty-three years ago)

James are you sure you've never heard one of these in a grocery store or restaurant/pub at some point?

Oh God. I think I've heard ALL of these! I was much happier not knowing. I feel ill.

James Annett, Sunday, 1 December 2002 19:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Jay-Z, S club 7/juniors/etc., Avril Lavigne, Christina Aguilera, Justin Timberlake, Nas, D12, Good Charlotte, Bright Eyes, Flipper, O-town, Blackstreet, dashboard confessional, river city high, many more.

webcrack (music=crack), Monday, 2 December 2002 05:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Seek out Avril ASAP.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 2 December 2002 06:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Piano Magic, Flipper, Misfits, Fushitsusha, The Creation, The Carpenters, Slade, Swervedriver, Coil, Lush, Scott Walker, The Birthday Party, Nick Cave, Mojave 3, Amon Duul II, Julian Cope, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Adam Ant, Air Supply, ELP, Van der Graaf Generator.....

Clarke B., Monday, 2 December 2002 08:12 (twenty-three years ago)

!!! Clarke, we need to talk. Or rather, you need some mp3 discs...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 December 2002 16:49 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
Artists I've NEVER heard:

The Darkness
Kraftwerk (Okay, I've heard The Model but that's it)
Gang Of Four
Julian Cope
CCR
Yes
The Grateful Dead
The Circle Jerks
Garth Brooks
Taco

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and Neu.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think I've knowingly heard any Hoobastank or Fountains Of Wayne or Evanescence or Train or Puddle Of Mudd either.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

And Mandy Moore.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 12 January 2004 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

the only thing i'm relatively confident about is bright eyes, and that's really only relative my-demographic-fame. did SFJ ever cop to hearing pearl jam?

andrew s, Monday, 12 January 2004 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Most of those, I can understand. But how have you made it through howevermanyyears without hearing a note of CCR or Garth Brooks? They're everywhere...tv ads, overhead radio in grocery stores, on-hold music on the telephone, etc.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:16 (twenty-two years ago)

there is no way you have not heard CCR. You are just unaware that you've heard it. Also, I refuse to believe you have never heard Owner of Lonely Heart! If you've heard any Stereolab albums you've heard Neu, for all intents and purposes.

I have never heard of a large number of late 60's/70's rock bands like Mountain and Blue Cheer. I assume I've heard Hot Tuna but I couldn't tell you what they sounded like.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Monday, 12 January 2004 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...
I am so surprised at how many folks here haven't heard any of The Grateful Dead! I know they only had probably a few hits in their entire career ("A Touch of Gray", "Casey Jones", and "Truckin'"), but you would think with their hugely popluar subculture success, SOMEONE would try to seek out what it is they've got!

Oh, btw, 2Pac was all over the place in the early/mid 90's, and I live in the southern US!

Kristy, Friday, 7 May 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yea, also had to give a shot out to Radiohead, the most fab group ever. Just had to make sure their name was on here SOMEWHERE!

Kristy, Friday, 7 May 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I've definitely heard Tupac now, btw, Kristy. Turns out I wasn't missing much. But I had only heard Nas a couple times before this week, though, as far as I remember. I got the reissue of *Illmatic,* apparently considered some kind of classic album, in the mail. Listened to it a couple times. It's, um....okay. I guess. Doubt I'll ever have any desire to put it on again, as long as I live, however.

chuck, Friday, 7 May 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

devil doll

uh (eetface), Friday, 7 May 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Miles Davis

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 8 May 2004 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)

The Fall, other than "Bingo Master".

"Oh, and Neu."

This was true of me until recently (same with Can). When I first heard them it was like, "Where have you been all my life?"

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 8 May 2004 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus a lot of rap. I must say though, Tupac was VERY popular even before his death, at least in the school I went to.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 8 May 2004 04:34 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Kraftwerk
most '70s prog
album specific - Black Flag, Damaged
Misfits
Suede
Muse
Insane Clown Posse

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

unfortunately i have been exposed to insane clown posse, albeit unwittingly.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 03:43 (twenty-one years ago)

The Fall
Gang of Four
Pere Ubu (I've had Cloudland on vinyl for like 5 yrs and still haven't put it on)
Echo and the Bunnymen
Ride
Chapterhouse
Slayer
Slint

Also, I just really started listening to Brian Eno like last week. He's quite good you know.

Josh Love (screamapillar), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Velvet Revolver

frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 04:21 (twenty-one years ago)

MC5

Gilles Meloche (Gilles Meloche), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 04:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i dont think ive ever really heard much springsteen apart from maybe two-three singles. and i have all his albums up to the river in my house, which i bought after seeing him live the other year, but i still havent got round to hearing them yet.

dickvandyke (dickvandyke), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm, let me see, bands/artists I never heard and that I wanted to:

- The Fall
- Japan / David Sylvian
- Grateful Dead (though I already have Live/Dead on my "to listen" pile)
- Iron Butterfly
- Caravan
- Brian Eno
- Pere Ubu
- Blue Cheer
- Van der Graaf Generator
- Julian Cope
- Ruins
- Young Gods
- Faust

and a lot of other stuff I must be forgetting.

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 11:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think I've heard Blue Cheer, aside from 5 second samples. If I've heard Garth Brooks, I didn't know it, but I probably have.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 30 June 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Korn, Damien Rice, The Calling, Jadakiss, Kristian Leontiou, Hoobastank, John Mayer, Velvet Revolver, Gretchen Wilson, Los Lonely Boys, Josh Gracin, Phish, Big & Rich, Kenny Chesney, Modest Mouse, 311, Deepest Blue.

Am I missing anything?

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

six years pass...

Kristine W. Apparently she's had 15 number one singles on the Dance chart, with 9 in a row. Would have had 16 straight but the tenth single only got to #2. Never heard a single one of her songs (to my knowledge).

naus, Sunday, 10 April 2011 00:37 (fourteen years ago)

if you don't recognise this melody you haven't been on a dancefloor between circa 94 and 00.

Siegbran, Sunday, 10 April 2011 00:43 (fourteen years ago)

Looking at the Billboard top 30, I haven't heard:

Nicki Minaj
Bruno Mars
Ke$ha
Pitbull
Tinie Tempah
Lupe Fiasco
Christina Perri (who?)
Keri Wilson

corey, Sunday, 10 April 2011 00:55 (fourteen years ago)

xp
You're right. I didn't turn 18 until 2000, and didn't really pay any attention to dance music until about 2002.

naus, Sunday, 10 April 2011 00:55 (fourteen years ago)

I clicked on this thread to say Tupac, turns out about 100 people beat me to it.

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 10 April 2011 00:58 (fourteen years ago)

Never hearing "California Love" is like never hearing "O.P.P." or something.

taking the mound: (rip van wanko), Sunday, 10 April 2011 01:03 (fourteen years ago)

Big in Japan

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 10 April 2011 02:24 (fourteen years ago)

I hear tupac talked about about 5x as often as I hear an actual tupac song

iatee, Sunday, 10 April 2011 02:32 (fourteen years ago)

Matter of fact, Nicolo Paganini is probably the correct answer for most of us.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 10 April 2011 02:47 (fourteen years ago)

I mean, he was like the biggest musical artist of the entire 19th century and nobody who is alive today has ever heard him play.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 10 April 2011 02:51 (fourteen years ago)

Probably never heard him play because he's dead.

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 10 April 2011 02:55 (fourteen years ago)

That was the point.

That's why they call me (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 10 April 2011 02:59 (fourteen years ago)

Never bothered with LCD Soundsystem or Yeah Yeah Yeahs or any of those early millenial bands. mostly b/c girlfriends i now despise were infatuated w/ them... sometimes i wonder how many professional critics carry the same league of bias.

kelpolaris, Sunday, 10 April 2011 04:00 (fourteen years ago)

of non-chart pop stuff, haven't heard:

Big Star
The Modern Lovers
Leonard Cohen
Tom Waits
Nick Cave
Vashti Bunyan
Arcade Fire
Fleet Foxes
Captain Beefheart
The Grateful Dead

pretty okay with not hearing these ever tbh

corey, Sunday, 10 April 2011 04:30 (fourteen years ago)

aw, vashti's great

Sittin' Fran (donna rouge), Sunday, 10 April 2011 04:34 (fourteen years ago)

"famous" is vague tho - the answer for me here would probably be someone involved in classical music or christian contemporary. or maybe country music

Sittin' Fran (donna rouge), Sunday, 10 April 2011 04:35 (fourteen years ago)

several of those are legitimately great

cohen - check it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG4ndbhOkpI

Z S, Sunday, 10 April 2011 04:44 (fourteen years ago)

Grateful Dead is the only one of those I'd consider "essential" listening - mainly for being such a seminal band (whereas the others really aren't, imo). I've yet to figure where Arcade Fire or Tom Waits fit into history. But I mean, GD is the quintessential noodling/jam band/cult band...a lot of history is packed into their career.

kelpolaris, Sunday, 10 April 2011 04:48 (fourteen years ago)

from corey's list, cohen is maybe my least favorite! i could never warm up to that voice

Sittin' Fran (donna rouge), Sunday, 10 April 2011 04:49 (fourteen years ago)

oh, d'oh! whoa! so...

i'm a big fan of cohen (especially his first decade), but waits and also the first (only?) modern lovers, and i'm not that big of a fan of nick cave but several of my friends are so i'm assuming he's actually awesome

Z S, Sunday, 10 April 2011 04:53 (fourteen years ago)

when those beautiful voices singing in french fade in (on the cohen song a few posts above) i'm not sure how it's possible to resist

Z S, Sunday, 10 April 2011 04:55 (fourteen years ago)

I guess I just kind of hate lyrics

corey, Sunday, 10 April 2011 05:00 (fourteen years ago)

I can see how you like this though! The song writing is clever and evocative — songwriting is just not something I value in music for reasons that are totally irrational.

corey, Sunday, 10 April 2011 05:02 (fourteen years ago)

haha, i kinda hate lyrics too - i don't know a single line in that song! i just like how the whole thing feels

Z S, Sunday, 10 April 2011 05:08 (fourteen years ago)

Only Cohen I've heard before this was "Everybody Knows" which is amazing. But as I've posted before, I can't hear it without thinking of Billy Mitchell from "The King of Kong."

naus, Sunday, 10 April 2011 05:32 (fourteen years ago)

Willie Dixon, Waylon Jennings, Sarah Vaughn, Donny Hathaway, Kool Keith, John Hiatt, Talk Talk, Slint, Throbbing Gristle, Animal Collective, Knife, Black Star

I try to cover the classics most of the time so I don't have many major blind spots. I heard some tracks by most of these artists too (The Ghetto, It's My Life, My Girls, Heartbeats...)

gospodin simmel, Sunday, 10 April 2011 12:38 (fourteen years ago)

Matter of fact, Nicolo Paganini is probably the correct answer for most of us.

― Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Saturday, April 9, 2011 10:47 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

Anybody who hears 24th Caprice will be like, "ohhhh THAT guy."

THE Alan Moulder?!? (Ówen P.), Sunday, 10 April 2011 14:04 (fourteen years ago)

To my shame:

A Tribe Called Quest
Mike Oldfield
Gorecki
Unrest
The Church

I've only heard a single David Sylvian song (and it was awesome)
I've listened to only one thing by Husker Du and it is Land Speed Record

THE Alan Moulder?!? (Ówen P.), Sunday, 10 April 2011 14:24 (fourteen years ago)

oh my sweet lord owen find a copy of the low end theory and enjoy the sunshine now.

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 10 April 2011 14:26 (fourteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_music_artists

Got as far as Genesis but now I wonder if things I know as Phil Collins count, so...

Babs Streisand and Garth Brooks.

In crit world... The Weeknd?

popular gay automobile (a hoy hoy), Sunday, 10 April 2011 14:31 (fourteen years ago)

Have only heard Górecki's famous 3rd and found it cloying.

corey, Sunday, 10 April 2011 14:33 (fourteen years ago)

Probably never heard him play because he's dead.

Jimi Hendrix, Louis Armstrong, Edit Piaf, Billye Holiday and Buddy Holly all died before I was born, but I have still heard them.

Paganini, however, never had the chance to become recorded.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 10 April 2011 15:01 (fourteen years ago)

I imagine that the answer for me is a popular mainstream country artist, but since I can't match many songs I HAVE heard to the artist responsible, I'm at a loss to name anyone specifically.

Grotjahn in the Moma (Pillbox), Sunday, 10 April 2011 15:04 (fourteen years ago)

Kristine W. Apparently she's had 15 number one singles on the Dance chart, with 9 in a row. Would have had 16 straight but the tenth single only got to #2. Never heard a single one of her songs (to my knowledge).

had no idea about this, only know her first couple of singles - 'Feel What You Want' is a gothbag classic

black bloc bologna (blueski), Sunday, 10 April 2011 15:06 (fourteen years ago)

Who is buying the Kristine W records? 'Land of the living' is good. I've never knowingly heard a Jesus and the Mary Chain song.

mmmm, Sunday, 10 April 2011 15:11 (fourteen years ago)

Those country artists are not at all famous here, but I know they are huge in the Southern part of the US, so I guess they count as really bit stars anyway.

I believe I have heard only one or two tracks by Busta Rhymes, although I know he was one of the biggest rap stars for a while.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 10 April 2011 15:17 (fourteen years ago)

Also have hardly ever heard anything by Dave Matthews Band. I know they were all over the airwaves in the US for a while, but I guess they are too bad and hated to really cross over to European markets.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 10 April 2011 15:18 (fourteen years ago)

just remembered a few: Jayhawks, Tindersticks, American Music Club, Blasters, Los Lobos, Wilco and The Afghan Whigs.

heard some tracks by each. will probably get to Los Lobos first. good decision?

gospodin simmel, Sunday, 10 April 2011 20:11 (fourteen years ago)

Arcade Fire

the best reggae summer club there used to be in Helsinki (kkvgz), Sunday, 10 April 2011 20:27 (fourteen years ago)

I know I have heard, even actively listend to Garth Brooks, but I can't recall a single hook or even what his voice sounded like. I remember his "Chris" rock alter-ego, and his SNL appearance in a skit, but not his music. Randy Travis, Dwight Yokum, Alan Jackson are all still lodged in the mind, hummable. Brooks has always stuck me as incredibly indistinct. He can't ever get past my midterm memory.

bendy, Sunday, 10 April 2011 23:26 (fourteen years ago)

I've probably heard a Mariah Carey song before, but I couldn't say for sure.

Whoever the most famous hip-hop artist is right now, or the most famous of the last 10-15 years...that's my fallback answer.

The Louvin Spoonful (WmC), Monday, 11 April 2011 00:18 (fourteen years ago)

don't think i've ever heard Tim McGraw or Phish

black bloc bologna (blueski), Monday, 11 April 2011 00:24 (fourteen years ago)

To my shame:

A Tribe Called Quest
Mike Oldfield
Gorecki
Unrest
The Church

Have you seen The Exorcist? Cos then you've heard some of Tubular Bells

Number None, Monday, 11 April 2011 00:33 (fourteen years ago)

I have, but I don't remember anything about the score (except that it was good?)
The weird thing about Unrest and Tribe Called Quest is that I have and enjoy albums by Air Miami, Mark Robinson and Q-Tip

THE Alan Moulder?!? (Ówen P.), Monday, 11 April 2011 00:46 (fourteen years ago)

insanity!

Grotjahn in the Moma (Pillbox), Monday, 11 April 2011 01:06 (fourteen years ago)

Not as insane as a person who's never bothered to listen to The Fall.

THE Alan Moulder?!? (Ówen P.), Monday, 11 April 2011 01:12 (fourteen years ago)

Have only heard Górecki's famous 3rd and found it cloying.

― corey, Sunday, April 10, 2011 7:33 AM (10 hours ago) Bookmark

i feel this but 'totus tuus' (written for JPII's 3rd visit to poland) is a must-hear imo - then again yr knowledge of this stuff outshines mine and you might think it sucks maybe but i think it's glorious

Sittin' Fran (donna rouge), Monday, 11 April 2011 01:14 (fourteen years ago)

oh yknow los lobos would've been my answer to this thread if it'd been revived a week ago - i only just heard 'kiko'

Sittin' Fran (donna rouge), Monday, 11 April 2011 01:17 (fourteen years ago)

xp I'd be interested in hearing his earlier pieces since I've read they're more spiky — I'll check if the library has Totus, thanks. :)

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 01:37 (fourteen years ago)

I've never heard anything by Lil Wayne, with the exclusion of his appearance on the second to last Weezer album

Beggar On A Beach Of Shite. (PaulTMA), Monday, 11 April 2011 01:45 (fourteen years ago)

Also:

The Decemberists
Iron & Wine
The National
Skip Spence
The Triffids
Skinny Puppy
New Model Army
Then Jericho
Wishbone Ash
Uriah Heep
Cud
Pram
Babes In Toyland
Polvo
Cranes
Humble Pie
Asia
Juliana Hatfield
Sugar
Emperor Julian
The Damned (with the exception of New Rose)
Tad
The Bobs
Levitation
Stars
Toad The Wet Sprocket
Labradford
Prolapse
The Dead Weather
Ry Cooder

Beggar On A Beach Of Shite. (PaulTMA), Monday, 11 April 2011 01:53 (fourteen years ago)

Possibly Moby Grape, as I think of it. I mean, probably also a billion top 40 artists who all sold a billion more copies of their album than Velvet Underground ever did. But, um, Moby Grape.

dlp9001, Monday, 11 April 2011 02:00 (fourteen years ago)

Cud
Pram

...

the best reggae summer club there used to be in Helsinki (kkvgz), Monday, 11 April 2011 02:15 (fourteen years ago)

A lot of classic rock.

The Sunspots In Your Eyes Are Actually Cataracts, Mr. Rudich (AWALL), Monday, 11 April 2011 03:22 (fourteen years ago)

Sparks.

Funky Mustard (People It's Bad) (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 11 April 2011 03:36 (fourteen years ago)

Fugazi + Pavement

I saw Yo La Tengo live once, but I've never heard a recording by them.

Probably a lot more in that US indie sort of vein

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 11 April 2011 08:42 (fourteen years ago)

Dave Matthews Band
Miley Cyrus
the Ink Spots
Art Blakey
Charles Manson
Justin Bieber

ridic beau (NickB), Monday, 11 April 2011 08:51 (fourteen years ago)

Arcade Fire
The Fall

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Monday, 11 April 2011 08:54 (fourteen years ago)

hang on, Cud are famous !?

mark e, Monday, 11 April 2011 08:59 (fourteen years ago)

Up to a week ago, when a colleague lent me their first two albums, Portishead.

Bloody Snail, Monday, 11 April 2011 09:25 (fourteen years ago)

Jethro Tull
Uriah Heep
Slayer
The Grateful Dead
Van Morrison
PJ Harvey
Can
Brian Eno (as a solo artist)
Public Image Limited
Paul McCartney (as a solo artist)
Ringo Starr (as a solo artist)
Hank Williams (+ lots of other famous country singers, probably, but I know only few country artists by name)
King Oliver
Bix Beiderbecke
Misfits
New York Dolls
Stone Temple Pilots
Any famous harcore punk band (though TBH I might've heard some of them, but I can't tell them apart)
The Zombies
The Jam
Elvis Costello
Oran "Juice" Jones
KMD

Tuomas, Monday, 11 April 2011 09:31 (fourteen years ago)

Last week I heard song from the radio, and my gf said it was Justin Bieber, otherwise I could've added him to the list. For some reason I thought he was some kind of an emo rock singer, but that tune at least sounded more like dance pop.

Tuomas, Monday, 11 April 2011 09:33 (fourteen years ago)

Not as insane as a person who's never bothered to listen to The Fall.

Owen - I wasn't exclaiming @ general fact that you've not heard Tribe or Unrest as much as I was @ the idea of owning the Air Miami record or a Q-Tip joint w/o knowing the sublime pleasures of Imperial f.f.r.r., Perfect Teeth, The Low End Theory or Midnight Marauders. In a way, I almost envy your virgin ears!

Grotjahn in the Moma (Pillbox), Monday, 11 April 2011 10:23 (fourteen years ago)

xp I thought La Roux's "Bulletproof" was Bieber. All cats are grey I guess.

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 10:27 (fourteen years ago)

Also have hardly ever heard anything by Dave Matthews Band. I know they were all over the airwaves in the US for a while, but I guess they are too bad and hated to really cross over to European markets.

:D

Dave Matthews Band are my answer I think, sold eighty gajillion albums and I've never knowingly heard a note

the George Washington of butts (sic), Monday, 11 April 2011 10:39 (fourteen years ago)

Obv. never heard them either

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 11 April 2011 10:39 (fourteen years ago)

dit

Mark G, Monday, 11 April 2011 10:43 (fourteen years ago)

I'm wondering how all the people who listed Garth Brooks managed to avoid hearing "Friends in Low Places."

President Keyes, Monday, 11 April 2011 10:49 (fourteen years ago)

me fako

Mark G, Monday, 11 April 2011 10:59 (fourteen years ago)

Garth Brooks, and modern country in general, just doesn't get played much in the UK

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 11 April 2011 11:00 (fourteen years ago)

Maybe not but it looks like he got an album to #2 on the UK charts.

President Keyes, Monday, 11 April 2011 11:04 (fourteen years ago)

I was going "give a shit" and looking in the other direction, that week.

Mark G, Monday, 11 April 2011 11:05 (fourteen years ago)

Obv. there are country fans in the UK, it's just not covered in the mainstream media, I'm sure it's on the radio if you look for it, but it's not on TV or in newspapers

Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, 11 April 2011 11:08 (fourteen years ago)

Sadly, I have heard a couple of songs by The Fall, but I wish I'd never have.

Tuomas, Monday, 11 April 2011 11:13 (fourteen years ago)

(xxxx-post)

I've never heard anything by the The Dave Matthews Band either, but I think they're famous only in the US (before joining ILX I'd never heard of them), so I didn't put them on my list.

Tuomas, Monday, 11 April 2011 11:15 (fourteen years ago)

I mean, I'm pretty sure there's some Chinese pop singer who's sold a 100 million albums, but me not having heard her wouldn't be a huge surprise.

Tuomas, Monday, 11 April 2011 11:17 (fourteen years ago)

Famous at least around here: Captain Beefheart.

Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Monday, 11 April 2011 13:34 (fourteen years ago)

Slayer

Euler, Monday, 11 April 2011 13:40 (fourteen years ago)

In a way, I almost envy your virgin ears!

There are some bands that I have heard in passing but deliberately not investigated, just cause I'd rather fall into them accidentally, not fully realizing what you're listening to.
And others, like Unrest, where I'm hesitating because my OCD tendency to listen to an entire catalogue and side projects would likely suspend other activities for a week

I've never fully bought into the idea that Not Listening to something could itself be an aesthetic choice
And while I'm not accusing anybody here of it, Nico wrote a little bit of cattiness about that tendency in January
Not exactly ILM-friendly tone but I thought it was good, anyway

I think last week must have just been a weird week for bad attitudes; something perhaps to do with the new astrological signs? I was waiting for Sibelius to “optimize staff spacing” and decided to investigate a suspicion I’ve long had that there’s a continuity error in Alan Hollinghurst’s The Line of Beauty (too complicated and sodomy-specific to go into here) and came across somebody’s blog, the first line of which was, “I decided not to read this when it came out.” What. Why would you take the time to write that you, on purpose, didn’t read something? What a strange impulse, and a strange thing to admit to; maybe it’s something in my makeup but it seems only polite to listen to every goddamn thing and read everything and don’t stop listening and reading and looking until you keel over in a pile of Belgian schmattas and headphones, and until that time, feel terribly guilty about not having read, listened, seen. I have a page on my phone that is devoted to things I need to read, things people have recommended to me. The principle is to go into everything wanting to like it. I read those Dan Brown books! The only reason I could see not to would be to make a terrible autobiographical point, and reading things with hatred in the heart is the opposite of fun, so I found a way in that felt like making the best of an airport bistro. But I wish there were a way to convince people that bragging about Not Reading Jonathan Franzen is real dumb.

Not at all implying that anybody here feels this way!
Except on the "pointedly ignored because of" thread maybe

THE Alan Moulder?!? (Ówen P.), Monday, 11 April 2011 13:46 (fourteen years ago)

Nico wrote...

Muhly? That's funny — I've never willingly listened to his music.

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 13:51 (fourteen years ago)

You're missing out, esp. his choral and chamber stuff.

THE Alan Moulder?!? (Ówen P.), Monday, 11 April 2011 13:55 (fourteen years ago)

too complicated and sodomy-specific

ha!

Hey Look More Than Five Years Has Passed And You Have A C (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 April 2011 14:01 (fourteen years ago)

I've never heard (or at least, could never recognize) Traffic, Blind Faith, or Moby Grape. Shockingly (to me) I think I've only heard maybe one Black Flag song, somehow.

Some of the above (mine included, probably) are clearly artists that I/you've never intentionally listened to, not heard, since there's no way someone in 2011 has literally never heard some of the aforementioned short of being shut-ins or deaf.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:02 (fourteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever heard or listened to Fall Out Boy.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:03 (fourteen years ago)

xxp No, I've heard some of his music live. It seemed to me (and I suspect you'll disagree) to have more to do with loop-based electronic music than any classical tradition — which is not in itself bad (I make loop-based electronic music myself), but I don't know what to do with things like that, that aren't one thing nor the other. When pop is mixed with classical it tends to be less sonically interesting than the former and less musically interesting than the latter. But my tastes tend towards heavier fare anyway — I don't like Poulenc either.

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:06 (fourteen years ago)

And Muhly is an intelligent guy, if a bit "knowing". I can imagine him posting several paragraph-long diatribes here in the middle of an 800-post clusterfuck thread and everyone going "Nico otm".

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:09 (fourteen years ago)

I know that's why I mentioned his first name only
Dude is google alerting to our location immediately, prepare yourself
(Hi Nico)

THE Alan Moulder?!? (Ówen P.), Monday, 11 April 2011 14:25 (fourteen years ago)

The only mentions on this thread that I'm like "really?!?!?!?!" are Tuomas':

Stone Temple Pilots
The Zombies
Elvis Costello

― Tuomas, Monday, April 11, 2011 5:31 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

It is physically impossible to not hear "Time Of The Season" at least once a month unless you work alone, in a coal mine

THE Alan Moulder?!? (Ówen P.), Monday, 11 April 2011 14:28 (fourteen years ago)

Mothertongue has as much to do with pop as Aaron Copland does.

jaymc, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:29 (fourteen years ago)

xps haha okay, I'll get a mod to Ǥǭṑğƚȅṕṝờỡƒ

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:31 (fourteen years ago)

xposts...

first time i stumbled across nico...

http://www.newmusicbox.org/article.nmbx?id=4974

Crackle Box, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:33 (fourteen years ago)

For Tuomas (because of all the artists on your list, never having heard Hank Williams should really be rectified imo.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95aP0OWx4jY&feature=related

Hardcore Bangage (Dan Peterson), Monday, 11 April 2011 15:38 (fourteen years ago)

love this thread, but 90% of these dudes are excusable... i mean, what percent of the nation has listened to polvo? .4239?

o pointy birds, o pointy pointy, anoint my head, anoity noity (kelpolaris), Monday, 11 April 2011 15:43 (fourteen years ago)

Still can't believe that SFJ hadn't heard Pearl Jam (by 2002 at least.)

President Keyes, Monday, 11 April 2011 15:50 (fourteen years ago)

multi xxpost Never heard Stone Temple Pilots either, barely noticed in Europe. Never knowingly heard anything by the following:
Korn
Moby Grape
John Mayer
Garth Brooks

Looking at the Billboard top 40:
Wiz Khalifa
Kirk Franklin
Mary Mary
Mumford and Sons
Marsha Ambrosius
Jason Aldeane
Rascall Flatts
Lady Antebellum
Amon Amarth
Casting Crowns
Sara Ramirez
Sara Evans
E-40

My music loving workmate had never heard of Justin Bieber, nevermind anything by him.

Cluster the boots (Billy Dods), Monday, 11 April 2011 16:02 (fourteen years ago)

have to take this excuse to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6Ip16i2MgY

reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 11 April 2011 16:09 (fourteen years ago)

Casting Crowns

Seriously? Counting Crows still exist and someone names their band this?

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 16:18 (fourteen years ago)

John Cage.

Mark G, Monday, 11 April 2011 16:21 (fourteen years ago)

If you've heard of him, you've heard him.

THE Alan Moulder?!? (Ówen P.), Monday, 11 April 2011 16:58 (fourteen years ago)

John Cage did write actual music xp

corey, Monday, 11 April 2011 16:59 (fourteen years ago)

uriah heep

dell (del), Monday, 11 April 2011 17:27 (fourteen years ago)

UFO

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 April 2011 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

I dunno, some of this might be more interesting in the context of which you haven't heard it. Like, I'm surprised that I've never heard a Blondie album, because I'm a total New Wave fiend and they have several LPs rated highly

frogbs, Monday, 11 April 2011 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

Marillion
Montrose

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 11 April 2011 17:37 (fourteen years ago)

Tuomas, if you've ever seen Trainspotting then you have heard Eno (solo):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJrWlHRT-18

City of Jorts (Steve Shasta), Monday, 11 April 2011 17:40 (fourteen years ago)

Yeah, I've seen Trainspotting, but I didn't know that tune was by Eno. It's a good tune!

For Tuomas (because of all the artists on your list, never having heard Hank Williams should really be rectified imo.)

http://www.youtube.com/v/95aP0OWx4jY&feature=related&fs=1&hl=en

Thanks for the link, sounds nice! I've nothing against country, it's just that I've never actively looked into it, and living in Europe it's pretty easy not to come across it by chance.

Tuomas, Monday, 11 April 2011 18:03 (fourteen years ago)

I have also never heard Pearl Jam.

m0stlyClean, Monday, 11 April 2011 18:34 (fourteen years ago)

At first I thought I'd never heard Pearl Jam, but then I remembered you couldn't really escape "Jamie Had a Gun" (or whatever that song was called) back in the early 90s.

Tuomas, Monday, 11 April 2011 18:37 (fourteen years ago)

applause

kkvgz, Monday, 11 April 2011 18:40 (fourteen years ago)

Hmmm.... Tuomas... "Janie's Got a Gun" is by Aerosmith. But maybe you mean "Jeremy"?

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Monday, 11 April 2011 19:00 (fourteen years ago)

Rebecca Black

black bloc bologna (blueski), Monday, 11 April 2011 19:09 (fourteen years ago)

I had to wrack my brain for this, but got a reminder at the store when I saw the cover of the new Cosmo:

Paramore

Handjobs for a sport (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 11 April 2011 23:54 (fourteen years ago)

To my great, great shame:

Ray Charles

THE Alan Moulder?!? (Ówen P.), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 02:05 (fourteen years ago)

I've entirely avoid listening to any Spiritualized ever despite owning something like 75% of Spacemen 3's discography

honestly tho, this is just keeping it w/in the context of ILM. i wouldn't be surprised if only 8 people in a 5mile radius of me had ever listened to the band.

o pointy birds, o pointy pointy, anoint my head, anoity noity (kelpolaris), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 02:09 (fourteen years ago)

i wouldn't be surprised if only 8 people in a 5mile radius of me had ever listened to the band.

that just means you're not playing it loud enough.

administratieve blunder (unregistered), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 02:13 (fourteen years ago)

two years pass...

interpreting this thread pretty broadly because of course i've heard SOMETHING by him (generally in a car commercial or a bad cover band), but i'm pretty much totally unfamiliar with the work of obscure 1960s musician

Jimi Hendrix

Z S, Friday, 14 June 2013 13:43 (twelve years ago)

also thinking of picking up some allman brothers today

Z S, Friday, 14 June 2013 13:43 (twelve years ago)

I passed a poster for a gig by him earlier and I got to thinking that I don't think I've ever knowingly heard a Mos Def song, and I was pretty into hip hop during his main era. I can't think of what he sounds like or a single song title or anything.

Walter Galt, Friday, 14 June 2013 14:19 (twelve years ago)

Drake

Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 14 June 2013 14:45 (twelve years ago)

As far as I know I've never heard Kanye West, Bon Iver, Justin Bieber, Sufjan Stevens, Bright Eyes, the Arctic Monkeys, Muse, Hank Williams, Merle Haggard, Drake, Queens of the Stone Age, or Elliott Smith. I have heard a band of 10-year-old girls cover "Umbrella" but I don't think I've heard the actual recording, or anything else by Rihanna. I had not heard Daft Punk until I just listened to their recent release.

OK, looking at my last.fm stats, it seems that I have in my life heard West, Smith, Stevens, Rihanna, and Muse, and I didn't check all of them. So maybe the point is that we all really have heard the most famous bands we think we haven't heard.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 14 June 2013 14:46 (twelve years ago)

Owen, have you heard Mike Oldfield and Husker Du since then? The first Roxy Music is one of my faves by now.

Is urban radio a thing in non-Toronto Canadian cities? I'm not sure I've heard an entire song by Notorious B.I.G. I know I've heard "Dear Mama", though I don't remember much about it. Otherwise, I'm not sure I've heard Tupac.

Still, I find it hard to believe that North Americans over 25 who pay the slightest attention to rock music have never heard Jimi Hendrix or Pearl Jam.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 14 June 2013 15:32 (twelve years ago)

I don't count stuff like Sufjan Stevens or Bright Eyes as famous. I'd be surprised if anyone in this office has heard them. I know that I did hear SS in the background at a coffee shop once. It was kind of folky iirc?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Friday, 14 June 2013 15:36 (twelve years ago)

I had never heard the Feelies until yesterday. They're kind of ILX-famous, I guess.

i don't even have an internet (Hurting 2), Friday, 14 June 2013 15:47 (twelve years ago)

I don't feel like I really know who's famous, so I was using number of last.fm plays as a proxy.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 14 June 2013 15:57 (twelve years ago)

eight years pass...

I'm really good at this game!

Taylor Swift
Garth Brooks
Drake

for starters

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 6 June 2022 16:35 (three years ago)

Ed Sheeran
Harry Styles

Love too flaunt my ignorance of poplar cultcha.

Noel Emits, Monday, 6 June 2022 16:38 (three years ago)

Tricia Romano told me this morning that she's never heard Husker Du.

Trying to imagine someone who has heard every musical artist more famous than Hüsker Dü.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 6 June 2022 16:47 (three years ago)

I think I heard Fugazi when someone put it on when I was working the floor at Tower Records in the early 90s. That's about it.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 6 June 2022 16:56 (three years ago)

The Killers
Justin Bieber
Harry Styles
Bruno Mars
Possibly Adele, although there's some song that seems to be playing in every charity shop in the UK that I think might be her

the classic emerson lake & palmer line-up (Matt #2), Monday, 6 June 2022 17:01 (three years ago)

Having a teenager who takes control of the car radio at every opportunity means I have heard Harry Styles, Ed Sheeran, and Drake plenty. But I can't name a song title.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 6 June 2022 17:03 (three years ago)

cannot think of anyone who is famous to spring to mind, but not famous enough that I won't have checked them out at least briefly. I used to perfomatively avoid ever hearing Imagine Dragons, but now my kids are really into them so that doesn't work.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 6 June 2022 17:05 (three years ago)

Drake. Well, I do know that one tiny bit of "Hotline Bling," but that is the only Drake song/title I know (out of apparently god knows how many hits), and even then I'm not sure I would recognize it beyond the part where he says the title. Now, tbh I know I *have* heard Drake before, probably once or twice on purpose, but it just will not nest in my brain, and functionally may as well be never.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 June 2022 17:05 (three years ago)

tbf i have heard Aubrey Graham rapping as wheelchair Jimmy in Degrassi: The Next Generation but not as Drake.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 6 June 2022 17:23 (three years ago)

All those moments will be lost in time.

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 6 June 2022 17:24 (three years ago)

artists i've never heard who are "indie famous" include Arcade Fire, Blonde Redhead and Death Cab for Cutie (always get the latter two mixed up)

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 6 June 2022 17:28 (three years ago)

We need a definitive ranked list of the most famous musical artists in 2022, so we can see where we each get eliminated.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 6 June 2022 17:34 (three years ago)

Good idea. My first search result was this wikipedia page, which lists Bad Bunny as the most-streamed artist of both 2020 and 2021, so I'm eliminated right at #1.
I'm about to go rectify this right now.

enochroot, Monday, 6 June 2022 17:49 (three years ago)

i literally only heard bad bunny today after i got two requests for him last night. "moscow mule" isn't bad.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 6 June 2022 17:52 (three years ago)

lol Bad what now? I'm out.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 6 June 2022 17:55 (three years ago)

I think I've heard bad bunny. he was on the super bowl a couple of years ago wasn't he? with Shakira and JLo?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 June 2022 18:04 (three years ago)

is Bad Bunny related to Greg the Bunny

THE VEIVET UIUERABOUIU (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 6 June 2022 18:07 (three years ago)

nephew of Jive, iirc.

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 6 June 2022 18:10 (three years ago)

Eleven years later...

A Tribe Called Quest

I still haven't listened to The Low-End Theory

Mike Oldfield

I overheard him in a public place somewhere and thought "I think this might be Mike Oldfield", it was nice

Gorecki

I have listened to his third symphony several times now.

Unrest

No surprise, this is now one of my favouritest bands.

The Church

Still have never heard this band.

I've only heard a single David Sylvian song (and it was awesome)

I was driving to (or from) Hamilton late one night and Laurie Brown played a song and it was intensely gorgeous amazing stuff and it turned out to be a latter-day David Sylvian track and I was like "holy shit what am I doing" and I'm now a rabid fan. My first exposure to the guy was dating somebody who was a big Japan fan and I didn't enjoy Japan so it biased me away from the solo material

I've listened to only one thing by Husker Du and it is Land Speed Record

I have listened to New Day Rising, Candy Apple Grey, Zen Arcade and a couple of records by Sugar. They are not for me. I still really like Land Speed Record though.

Contemporarily, I realized today that I have never heard a single Ryan Adams song, which is convenient.

a legible shriek (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 6 June 2022 18:16 (three years ago)

Pavement

Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Monday, 6 June 2022 18:24 (three years ago)

We need a definitive ranked list of the most famous musical artists in 2022, so we can see where we each get eliminated.

― Halfway there but for you, Monday, June 6, 2022 1:34 PM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Good idea. My first search result was this wikipedia page, which lists Bad Bunny as the most-streamed artist of both 2020 and 2021, so I'm eliminated right at #1.
I'm about to go rectify this right now.

― enochroot, Monday, June 6, 2022 1:49 PM (thirty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

idk if streams = fame tho, I think they're more an indication of what's trending and my initial triumvirate is going to be pretty hard to top unless there's an ilxor who has never heard Michael Jackson, Elvis or The Beatles

Where's Tuomas hiding these days?

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 6 June 2022 18:27 (three years ago)

Look, I'm playing to win and I saw Bad Bunny on TV once

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 6 June 2022 18:27 (three years ago)

i have never heard the Beatles

hello duckness my old friend (Noodle Vague), Monday, 6 June 2022 18:31 (three years ago)

I've never heard of the Beatles

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Monday, 6 June 2022 18:41 (three years ago)

Is Bad Bunny a spinoff from Frightened Rabbit?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 6 June 2022 18:42 (three years ago)

The Beatles have never heard of me.

Noel Emits, Monday, 6 June 2022 18:43 (three years ago)

Bad Bunny can see you guys

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/03/02/gettyimages-1053203180-ce5907aa601552b064d4bfa5ef3ec732032894ce-s800-c85.webp

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Monday, 6 June 2022 18:55 (three years ago)

for me it's famous artists that I only know through Sesame Street. sometimes I hear these songs in the wild but I only know the Sesame Street version

the one that tricked me was Ed Sheeran. I could not believe *that* guy was actually famous. I thought it was just like, the sound guy having to get in front of the camera because the guest cancelled. you know, like Nickelodeon used to do all the time

frogbs, Monday, 6 June 2022 18:59 (three years ago)

Garth Brooks

see this is tricky, idk what country you live in but if you live in America it's almost inconceivable that a person has not heard Garth Brooks before. however, you may never know it was him, he's got such a nondescript and mediocre voice, there's no "okay THIS must be Garth!" moment the way there would be for like every other mega selling artist. I bought his vinyl boxset for $15 (with Free Shipping from Amazon, just to stick it to them really) and there was a lot of "oh it's THIS fucking song?"

frogbs, Monday, 6 June 2022 19:03 (three years ago)

highest ranked person on this list that i have heard legitimately zero songs by is james arthur. it would've been someone higher on the list if i didn't listen to reggaeton lol

https://chartmasters.org/most-streamed-artists-ever-on-spotify/

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Monday, 6 June 2022 19:05 (three years ago)

Following RYM's top albums (which have grown quite terrible), it seems to be The Microphones, Death Grips, Elliott Smith, Nine Inch Nails, Black Country, New Road, Sweet Trip, Unwound, Burial.
And I must have heard their music, but I wouldn't recognize it if the best songs of The Kinks or Iggy Pop came on the radio. Same for Creedence Clearwater Revival, The Strokes, Interpol or Electric Wizard.

Nabozo, Monday, 6 June 2022 19:06 (three years ago)

If Electric Wizard comes on your radio, I'd advise you to run

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Monday, 6 June 2022 19:13 (three years ago)

I don't think I've ever heard One Direction, though I've certainly heard HS

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Monday, 6 June 2022 19:16 (three years ago)

Hunk of that most streamed list that I've just outright never heard of.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 June 2022 19:18 (three years ago)

how do you all know you’ve never heard these artists? you probably have heard their music public without knowing it’s harry styles or whoever

brimstead, Monday, 6 June 2022 19:23 (three years ago)

in public

brimstead, Monday, 6 June 2022 19:23 (three years ago)

yeah same

"oh it's THIS fucking song?"

I think thread premise is implicitly "afaik" but sure, name one Garth Brooks tune that it's inconceivable I haven't heard and I shall sacrifice my virgin purity in the name of science.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 6 June 2022 19:24 (three years ago)

xxp

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 6 June 2022 19:24 (three years ago)

Have headphones on as much as possible in public places.

Noel Emits, Monday, 6 June 2022 19:26 (three years ago)

Garth is not super ubiquitous if you live in certain places. I think the only songs I heard at the height of his fame were "Thunder Rolls" "Friends in Low Places" and "We'll All Be Free" or whatever.

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Monday, 6 June 2022 19:30 (three years ago)

I bet a bunch of people have never heard someone like Blake Shelton

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Monday, 6 June 2022 19:31 (three years ago)

realizing the answer for me is probably rupaul

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Monday, 6 June 2022 19:58 (three years ago)

"Friends in Low Places" would be the one I'd think most people would have heard. He's got some other tunes I'm sure most people have heard in passing and then immediately forgot about, this one at least has a hook that's funny & memorable. It's a good karaoke song.

frogbs, Monday, 6 June 2022 19:59 (three years ago)

Dumpy's Rusty Nuts

THE VEIVET UIUERABOUIU (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 6 June 2022 20:08 (three years ago)

Sorry, Chuck, but I must report that this entire thread is based on a lie! (Not really--more like forgetfulness, or confusion over spelling.) Chuck (surprisingly) gave "California Love" a 7.0 in Radio On #8, when Tupac was still 2Pac.

clemenza, Monday, 6 June 2022 20:11 (three years ago)

And the thing with "Friends in Low Places" is that I didn't hear it when it was a hit but only in the early 00s at a karoke bar for the first time.

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Monday, 6 June 2022 20:22 (three years ago)

There were only 8 of the 20 on that streaming list where I could actually connect a specific song I've heard to a particular artist. I also can't identify any Billy Eilish or Adele songs.

joygoat, Monday, 6 June 2022 20:31 (three years ago)

I just listened to "Friends in low places" and def don't recognize the song or voice

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 6 June 2022 21:25 (three years ago)

the amount of country music i hear in the wild in NYC is remarkably small.

'middle aged nerd claims not to know any music by current pop megastar' isn't all that interesting or surprising, sorry to have taken that direction but curious to know where people's blank spots are more generally (and I have a lot of them!)

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 6 June 2022 21:40 (three years ago)

99.9% of all rap music released since "The Humpty Dance."

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 6 June 2022 22:09 (three years ago)

its hard to believe there are Garth-free zones out there but I suppose NYC might be one.

think is, *I* would never have guessed I knew any Garth Brooks songs either, but since I got that boxset I've noticed it out in the wild like once a month. his voice really is that nondescript but once you know you know I guess

frogbs, Monday, 6 June 2022 22:19 (three years ago)

I don't hear much hip-hop by even the biggest male rappers, unless they have a feature on a pop song - e.g., I had never heard a Kendrick track, until a checked out a few on his latest album b/c the guests interested me (I saw him perform on the Grammys, if that counts). I've heard Drake, fwiw.

subject matter expert (morrisp), Monday, 6 June 2022 22:27 (three years ago)

“Tupac was never really famous during his lifetime” is a hell of a take. Guess Chuck never hung out with anyone younger than him? Tupac was inescapable to me in my “just out of college” milieu before he died.

THE VEIVET UIUERABOUIU (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 6 June 2022 22:28 (three years ago)

(And I've never been entirely convinced that the two coasts had especially distinctive sounds, either.)

yeah idk

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Monday, 6 June 2022 22:33 (three years ago)

think is, *I* would never have guessed I knew any Garth Brooks songs either, but since I got that boxset I've noticed it out in the wild like once a month. his voice really is that nondescript but once you know you know I guess

no, I get it- for a long time I thought the only Foo Fighters song I knew was the one with the Mentos video. I honestly half expected to recognize the Garth Brooks song but didn't.

I know at least one song by most of the pop artists others have mentioned today, wondering if there are songs by Taylor Swift or Drake that I'd recognize. I've imagined that they're maybe just slightly too edgy to have achieved the same level of CVS playlist ubiquity as Bruno Mars.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 6 June 2022 23:06 (three years ago)

Try "Shake It Off" by Taylor; you've very likely heard it

subject matter expert (morrisp), Monday, 6 June 2022 23:08 (three years ago)

...and "Love Story" and "You Belong With Me", which have long been supermarket jams.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 6 June 2022 23:10 (three years ago)

Ok thanks will do. Honestly kind of excited to finally hear Taylir Swift.

Husker Du is another one I also hadn't heard until a couple of years ago when I decided to stream a bit of 'Zen Arcade' because I'd never heard Husker Du. So now I've heard them the one time.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 6 June 2022 23:11 (three years ago)

Ed Sheeran, happy to say.

Maresn3st, Monday, 6 June 2022 23:42 (three years ago)

"Shake it Off" - parts of this are familiar enough that I'm certain I must have heard it before today but it's a vague kind of familiarity

"Love Story" - nope, but it sounds supermarket-reay for sure

"You Belong With Me" - ok yeah, I know this song

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 6 June 2022 23:56 (three years ago)

Vampire Weekend
xxxtentacion
Drake

And like everyone else in this thread I have no idea who Bad Bunny is/are.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 01:03 (three years ago)

I saw Bad Bunny wrestle on TV once, don't know his music.

I've never heard BTS, despite them ruling the world or something.

There's a rapper named Jack Harlow now, which I can't wrap my head around. That's the name of an inexpensive British actor on a mid-tier streaming show.

Chris L, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 01:15 (three years ago)

In America anyway, "Butter" by BTS has been in few high-profile ad campaigns.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 01:26 (three years ago)

Came here to say I don’t think I’ve ever heard BTS.

Closer to home, a friend invited me to see Superchunk tonight and somehow I’ve never heard a song by them. Same thing happened with The National a few years ago. Blind spots.

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 01:29 (three years ago)

i've almost certainly heard them out in the world but i wouldn't know for sure
Ed Sheeran
Harry Styles
Adele
Post Malone
Travis Scott
Billy Eilish
i guess Machine Gun Kelly seems p famous?
boatloads of currently massive country artists

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 01:33 (three years ago)

Yeah I don’t think I’ve ever heard a Machine Gun Kelly song in my life.

Looking at the list of the best selling albums of all time… blind spots for me are Meat Loaf and Boston. I suppose there’s a Meat Loaf song I have listened to. Can’t recall any Boston song and looking at their most popular songs on spotify doesn’t ring a bell.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 02:18 (three years ago)

Weird thing is that I definitely remember seeing the album covers with that UFO.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 02:19 (three years ago)

Those two might be on the list of best selling albums of all time but I’ve never seen anyone ever mention them.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 02:20 (three years ago)

One Direction. I just don’t feel compelled, and boy bands are a guilty pleasure for me.

lilsoulbrother, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 02:21 (three years ago)

You guys are managing to make me feel like a poptimist.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 02:34 (three years ago)

Yeah, even I have heard fucking Bad Bunny you dorks

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 02:37 (three years ago)

Probably not really "famous", but I have never listened to Diamanda Galás, nor do I know what her voice actually sounds like, other than being very infamous.

Anyways, I too have never knowingly listened to Bad Bunny. I also keep confusing him with the band, Beach Bunny.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 02:39 (three years ago)

Closer to home, a friend invited me to see Superchunk tonight and somehow I’ve never heard a song by them.

Yeah, I heard Superchunk for the first time a few months ago via a friend who is just getting into them.

I'm listening to Iron Maiden rn because I'd never heard Iron Maiden knowingly and it looks like I'm going to be listening exclusively to Iron Maiden in the foreseeable future.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 02:54 (three years ago)

^appropriate response to hearing Iron Maiden

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 03:07 (three years ago)

I saw the Who at Madison Square Garden a couple weeks ago and there were ads all over for Harry Styles’ upcoming sold-out multi-night run there. I realized I hadn’t heard anything at all by him (but in a pinch I might be able to identify a One Direction song).

I’ve somehow, and unfortunately, heard Ed Sheeran to the degree that when a friend gave me a lift one day I was able to identify Sheeran as the music playing in their car. And because I appreciated the lift, I said nothing about their music choice.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 04:37 (three years ago)

I had never heard Styles until my sis told me to check out his last single (it was totally unremarkable)

I've listened to bits of Sheeran songs, just to see what they sound like (e.g., when they come up in infringement lawsuits), but I don't think I've ever heard a whole song or could identify one (tho I do know his voice from Taylor Swift duets).

subject matter expert (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 04:46 (three years ago)

There's a rapper named Jack Harlow now, which I can't wrap my head around. That's the name of an inexpensive British actor on a mid-tier streaming show. Goes w my impression of his songs.
Since 2002, Chuck has raised enough teenagers to get thoroughly Dad-schooled by the car radio.

dow, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 05:13 (three years ago)

Grateful Dead

fetter, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 06:14 (three years ago)

Yeah, even I have heard fucking Bad Bunny you dorks

I'd never heard of Bad Bunny till this thread.

Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 06:33 (three years ago)

Weird thing is that I definitely remember seeing the album covers with that UFO.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka),

TS: Boston's UFO vs. ELO's UFO vs. Jefferson Starship's UFO vs. UFO.

Boston and Meatloaf is a fun and surprising answer!

Fugazi + Pavement

I saw Yo La Tengo live once, but I've never heard a recording by them.

Probably a lot more in that US indie sort of vein

― Tom D (Tom D.), Monday, April 11, 2011 4:42 AM (eleven years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah this is a major blank spot on the map for me too. I know Pavement's catalog pretty well, but they're the exception.

i know a couple of Fugazi songs. YLT and GBV I've only approached in the way morrisp describes investigating bEd Sheeran. It surprises people because I was interested in things like neo-psych and post rock in the late 90's, I was even into cloying indie-pop very briefly but was never too curious about straight up indie rock. Most of the cornerstones of 90's American indie remain a mystery to me.

There's also a lot of straight punk rock I don't know that people expect me to know because I've been interested in post-punk and new wave.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 06:57 (three years ago)

90s Indie Rock, especially GBV, is playing whenever I go into a fast casual restaurant

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 10:41 (three years ago)

Those two might be on the list of best selling albums of all time but I’ve never seen anyone ever mention them.

I just searched and found 12 ILM threads about the band Boston.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 12:55 (three years ago)

Best Thread Ever: Boston - Third Stage

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:00 (three years ago)

xxpost pretty sure I have never heard GBV in a store or restaurant in my life.

Chris L, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:11 (three years ago)

Although 2010s-era indie was dominant whenever I was shopping for furniture a few years ago.

Chris L, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:12 (three years ago)

Fugazi
Roger Miller

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:13 (three years ago)

Never even heard "King of the Road"? Impressive!

Fugazi ... they're one of my favorite bands of all time, but if you've made it this far and haven't heard them, I'm not even sure where I would tell you to start. Probably "13 Songs"/"Waiting Room"? I will say, if you like Sonic Youth, which you do, you might already be inclined to like a lot of Fugazi.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:16 (three years ago)

I've heard it, yeah, but that's it?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:20 (three years ago)

I'm not sure I've heard more than "King of the Road," either.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:25 (three years ago)

XP How have you missed Roger Miller on your chart deep dives? Only the biggest Country crossover artist of his time.

"England Swings", "Dang Me", "Chug-A-Lug"?

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:27 (three years ago)

Roger Miller greatest hits is a jam

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:30 (three years ago)

“You Can’t Roller Skate” etc.

Double Elvis on the Dime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:34 (three years ago)

I don't know any of those songs from the titles and am not sure if I even know "King of the Road".

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:36 (three years ago)

So maybe that's my answer?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:36 (three years ago)

Roger Miller, Lefty Frizzell ... buncha early crossover country stuff I know I've heard but can't really recall much of.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:39 (three years ago)

I only know "Friends In Low Places" but the only place I've heard it ever is at karaoke. I have investigated Garth Brooks's albums and think he's fine and am a card-holding member of the "Chris Gaines was actually good" cult

I cannot go to a grocery store or drug store without hearing an Ed Sheeran song and a Taylor Swift song, it is impossible

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:40 (three years ago)

Brooks albums through 1994-1995 are good to great.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:40 (three years ago)

Yeah, I heard "Friends in Low Places" (the actual recording) in 97 or 98 for the first time. I had a summer job in Jasper in 96 and heard a lot of pop-country stuff for the first time there since there was only one music station on the radio. I didn't get that much exposure to country growing up (unless you count stuff like the Eagles and Bon Jovi). I often hear the argument that people disdain country music because they associate it with a particular demographic but that wasn't even the case because I barely knew anyone at all who listened to it for a long time. I didn't associate it with anyone.xp

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 13:45 (three years ago)

For being the biggest selling album artist in American pop history, his musical footprint is faint cuz he ain't on Spotify. I suspect he has a profile at all thanks to his appearances on Trish's cooking show.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 14:09 (three years ago)

When I saw someone do "Friends in Low Places" at karaoke the accompanying karaoke video featured a little person cowboy.

Chris L, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 14:24 (three years ago)

If Moka has seriously never heard Boston's debut or Meatloaf's Bat Out of Hell I would legit enjoy a thread a la this one from Doctor Casino.

In Which Doctor Casino Listens to Classic Rock Classics for the First Time

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 14:36 (three years ago)

I just searched and found 12 ILM threads about the band Boston.

― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r)

Sorry meant IRL. Of course there’s discussion of them on ILM.

Closest reference I had is that Kurt Cobain said that “smells like teen spirit” was him trying to do a song like “more than a feeling” iirc.

Hearing Boston for the first time. I like it… sounds like a bridge between power pop and hair metal. Kind of like Cheap Trick? I need to listen to more songs by them. I don’t know why I was expecting a yacht rock kind of sound.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 14:51 (three years ago)

Lol from the similar acts on spotify there’s a bunch of artists I recognize by name but don’t recall ever listening to them:

Styx, REO Speedwagon, Triumph, Eddie Money, Loverboy, Bachman Turner overdrive

I guess I’ve hitted my blind spot jackpot here

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 14:54 (three years ago)

Well you ain't seen nothing yet!

Portrait Of A Dissolvi Ng Drea M (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 14:55 (three years ago)

Journey, Heart, Billy Squier and Foreginer I do know.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 14:55 (three years ago)

Lots of homework in here. Let’s move on to Meat Loaf.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 14:56 (three years ago)

Similar artists for Meat Loaf overlaps some by Boston, would explain why I had never heard of either.

Most popular song “paradise by the dashboard” I had definitely never heard before. I was expecting him to have a more heavy metal sound. This is weird as fuck, starts as a rock n roll parody song, goes into some stevie wonder interlude then into opera country rock thing and ends up sounding like the B52s. It’s also 8 minutes long? What the hell. Was this a hit?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:04 (three years ago)

:D

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:07 (three years ago)

What the hell. Was this a hit?

New board description

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:09 (three years ago)

I used to DJ a lot of weddings when "Paradise" was popular, and would would get requests for it which generally resulted in clearing the dance floor except for a bunch of drunk yahoos screaming along to every word.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:11 (three years ago)

Feel like someone should recut the end of Manhunter with Paradise by the Dashboard Light instead of In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida.

sleep, that's where I'm the cousin of death (PBKR), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:28 (three years ago)

If you've ever seen Rocky Horror then you've seen Meatloaf singing

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:29 (three years ago)

Styx? Is that a band? And Kansas. Billy Squier... LOL, I say famous but Bogshed are more famous in the UK than any of them.

Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:42 (three years ago)

Half Man Half Biscuit did a song about being seen at a Styx gig.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:46 (three years ago)

Or something like that; idk what any of their songs I've heard are about, really.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:48 (three years ago)

I have never seen Rocky Horror, please don’t hate me I know it has a huge cult following.

So his second most popular song is “I would do anything for love” which is a single edit which is 5 minutes long… original is 12 minutes long! And it was a hit! This is insanity.

Listening to the 5 minute version because it’s way too early in the morning for me to be listening to a 12 minute broadway rock thing. I’ll say this, I had never heard anything quite like this before and I’m very confused at how this sort of music is the 4th best selling album of all time.

I need to sit and meditate on this one.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:50 (three years ago)

sleep on it

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:51 (three years ago)

Haha Sarah Brightman apparently did a version of "Dust in the Wind".

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:51 (three years ago)

Afaik fwiw there is no body keeping objective statistics regarding worldwide album sales and these lists can vary widely between sources. Pre-Soundscan numbers are especially unreliable to the point that I look at these kinds of lists, especially if it's from something like Wikipedia, as close to speculative fiction.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:58 (three years ago)

Kind of makes sense why I’ve never heard his music on classic rock radio… these are long songs that don’t quite sound like other rock music and it feels like the sort of thing that has to be listened in its own terms.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 15:59 (three years ago)

which is to say it's highly possible that Bat Out of Hell is not the fourth best-selling album of all time - and NB that even on the Wikipedia list, if you look at "total certified copies" instead of "total claimed sales", BooH places much lower than fourth. xp

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:00 (three years ago)

That said, you can definitely hear Meat Loaf on classic rock radio here. Also "I'd Do Anything" was unavoidable via pop/AC radio in the mid-90s.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:01 (three years ago)

Yeah, idk, I heard those earlier Loaf singles well into the early '00s on AOR.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:02 (three years ago)

Yeah I'm skeptical that Bat Out Of Hell has sold more than Sgt. Pepper. Still, it sold tons, and now this thread has me thinking about the how and why as well. And I'm stumped.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:02 (three years ago)

Boston almost certainly gets daily airplay on any given classic rock station in the US/Canada ime.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:02 (three years ago)

“More than a feeling” is extremely radio friendly when compared to “paradise by the dashboard light”.

The other Boston songs I heard didn’t sound familiar at all, “more than a feeling” did made me feel that I must have heard it somewhere else before.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:11 (three years ago)

Xpost: yeah Wikipedia data has to be skewed somehow. There’s no way BOOH has sold more than idk Dark Side of the Moon or Led Zep’s IV or Sgt Peppers or Metallica black album or Nevermind… those are bands and albums that people are still buying and discussing to death.

Even if it’s not really the 4th best selling album of all time. It’s still mindblowing to me how it got so immensely popular in the first place and why there’s little canonization about it.

It’s like the musical equivalent to the Avatar movie.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:26 (three years ago)

Seems fairly canonized to me, may vary geographically. Not less than Metallica's black album, certainly.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:30 (three years ago)

i feel like 7 of the 8 songs on Boston's s/t got fairly heavy classic rock radio airplay in the 90s. at least where i was.

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:32 (three years ago)

Yeah, when I bought the record, I recognized seven of the songs from the radio and then heard the eighth shortly afterwards.

I just checked - "Peace of Mind" was played this morning on the local station.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:35 (three years ago)

I always knew Bat Out of Hell was massive but I didn't know until just now it's the best-selling album of all time in Australia and went 17x platinum in New Zealand too.

Chris L, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:45 (three years ago)

Yeah, I wonder if Boston or the Cars wins for most number of songs from their first album that get regular classic rock radio play. Probably the Cars. Six or seven from the first Cars album, maybe five from Boston?

I never hear Meatloaf anywhere, ever.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:46 (three years ago)

"i'd do anything" was in a commercial for dr. pepper or something for a while

in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:50 (three years ago)

I guess Loaf was also shrewd to call the comeback album "Bat Out of Hell II." Probably gave a lot of boomers a push to replace their old vinyl copies on CD, like it was an actual sequel or something.

Chris L, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:51 (three years ago)

6 of the 9 on Cars s/t i have distinct memories of hearing on crr, but i'm sure like "Doncha Stop" and "I'm in Touch With Your World" got some love too

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:52 (three years ago)

I'm guessing a lot of songs from Appetite for Destruction get regular play

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:54 (three years ago)

Hmm, I still hear all the big hits from that, but that's still only ... three? Sweet Child, Paradise City, Welcome to the Jungle? Maybe if Guns was from Boston there would be more.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:59 (three years ago)

At least five songs each from Led Zeppelin I and Are You Experienced? (US version) got pretty consistent airplay on “classic rock” stations.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 16:59 (three years ago)

Hysteria racked em up too

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:01 (three years ago)

Zeppelin is almost a different animal. They didn't even bother releasing singles after the third album, right? Lots of "Dark Side of the Moon" gets airplay, not so much the others. Maybe "Wish You Were Here," but that's like three or four songs long.

"Hysteria," I regularly hear ... six?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:05 (three years ago)

The Wall has at least like 3 or 4 classic rock radio staples.

Chris L, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:10 (three years ago)

You know, I remember buying a cassette of Led Zeppelin IV specifically to have the opportunity to hear Stairway to Heaven (wasn't aware of classic rock radio yet), which I'd read volumes about. None of which prepared me to be serenaded by the minstrel from the renaissance fair with a slowed down Om Kalthoum cassette for a vocalist? For 8 goddamn minutes!! And this endurance test is supposed to be the greatest rock song?

Bat out of Hell is like red meat compared to that.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:16 (three years ago)

Haha that description would make me want to listen to it if I didn't know it.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:23 (three years ago)

You may have heard Meatloaf on the theme song to the 1987 Special Olympics (feat. Brian May from Queen).

https://mindlessthefirst.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/img612.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ud0tLwcfG4

peace, man, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:29 (three years ago)

Haha, I remember that comic ad

subject matter expert (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:30 (three years ago)

Until today I'd never listened to a Blue Oyster Cult album. I knew 2 or 3 songs from radio or elsewhere. I maybe should have started with the debut, or perhaps Agents of Fortune, but I opted for Tyranny and Mutation because I liked the title. Holy crap, this is great weirdo garage rock psych prog metal. Gonna move on to others.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:31 (three years ago)

Tyranny and Mutation is my favorite BOC album and they're probably my favorite rock band.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:34 (three years ago)

Well, they were. I only listen to Iron Maiden now.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:35 (three years ago)

Zeppelin is almost a different animal. They didn't even bother releasing singles after the third album, right?

Wrong!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:35 (three years ago)

MEAT LOAF WAS THE VOICE OF HORNY, INSECURE TEEN BOYS EVERYWHERE
The late superstar’s ‘Bat Out of Hell’ remains a ridiculous, incredibly honest portrait of what it’s like to be young and full of hormones you can’t understand or control

https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/meat-loaf-rip

I didn't read all of this but LOL

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:37 (three years ago)

idk I always found his performance a bit "how do you do fellow kids"

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:38 (three years ago)

The album is pretty stupid because teenage boys are pretty stupid, but it’s also kind of beautiful because teenage boys — at least the good ones — possess an awkward beauty buried underneath all that pimply awkwardness.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:41 (three years ago)

I still hear all the big hits from that, but that's still only ... three? Sweet Child, Paradise City, Welcome to the Jungle?

Mr. Brownstone, It's So Easy and Night train get play too

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:42 (three years ago)

TIL that Easy/ Brownstone were released as a double A side in the UK before any singles were put out in the US

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:49 (three years ago)

It's So Easy, really? Do they bleep it? I don't hear those songs at all here.

Re: Zep, hmm, there's something hinky going on with their singles. I think they only officially released ten, maybe? Maybe promo only? Maybe no singles released in the UK? Something like that.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:50 (three years ago)

Zep and Metallica are the classic rock radio bands for whom charts and singles are irrelevent

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 17:53 (three years ago)

Yep. Yet "Fool in the Rain" got as high as #21 in 1980.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:00 (three years ago)

Josh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin_discography#Singles

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:00 (three years ago)

OK, so maybe 10 officially released, about one per album, and the rest promo? In the US at least. How about the UK? Maybe that's where they never officially released any singles?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:06 (three years ago)

Isn't "Paradise by the Dashboard Light" from the pov of a near-suicidal older man trapped in a marriage with someone he hates, looking back wistfully? I never thought of it as a hormonal adolescent rush at all.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:19 (three years ago)

I was expecting him to have a more heavy metal sound


When I was a kid BOOH and the Dead’s Skull and Roses record were by far the most disappointing records in my uncles collection based on the cover art vs. content.

When I spend time driving around my rural hometown area in the summer I guarantee I’ll hear Paradise by the Dashboard Light at least once on 97.7 THE WOLF but that’s the only time I ever encounter Meat Loaf

joygoat, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:22 (three years ago)

I never thought of it as a hormonal adolescent rush at all.

lol it literally has a sports announcer giving play-by-play of backseat sex

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:27 (three years ago)

It just seems very wry and distanced from the experience to me, compared to something like "Whole Lotta Love". It makes sense that it's an older guy reflecting on it. Totally a subjective impression.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:31 (three years ago)

oh yeah, it's more in the Springsteen vein of "Here's this crazy night I had hanging out with people who are now all dead or working shit jobs."

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:34 (three years ago)

otm

Pink Floyd are the AOR staple band who it's often said released no singles between Point Me at the Sky in 1968 and Another Brick in the Wall Part 2 in 1979 (but that's totally untrue)

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:37 (three years ago)

growing up in Boston, you can bet that I heard both Boston and The Cars on classic rock radio constantly in the 90s. my favorite Boston cuts are "Rock & Roll Band" and "Smokin'".

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:39 (three years ago)

Zep and Metallica are the classic rock radio bands for whom charts and singles are irrelevent

As Dave Marsh pointed out in his 1001 Singles book, it doesn’t matter that “Stairway” or “Brain Damage/Eclipse” weren’t released as 45s — radio treated those songs as singles anyway. And the airplay of these non-single “singles” directly resulted in those albums scaling the irrelevant charts. (And Metallica had six top-40 singles in the US.)

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:43 (three years ago)

(xxp) I don't think they did in the UK? Ditto LZ.

Doodles Diamond (Tom D.), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:44 (three years ago)

always dug Foreplay/ Longtime and partic this one from s/t:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV3pR87L-T8

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:50 (three years ago)

can't believe it's been 15 years(!!) since Delp passed :-/
what a talent

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:52 (three years ago)

Trivia: An alternate version called "Foreplay/Fiveplay/Long Time" was released on a 1976 promotional album called It's A Knockout. It was a little longer than the original version and contained some alternate lyrics.

I had this, don't know if I still do. Never realized there was any difference in the recordings.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 18:56 (three years ago)

I've heard rock stations do those daily "Get the Led Out" blocks or "Metallica Monday" where they played a bunch of non-singles.

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:01 (three years ago)

xp to Tom D. that might be right, actually. They def released a bunch of singles in Europe and America during that time, but the only UK one I know of is a radio promo of Money.

The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:26 (three years ago)

oof my rock station offered Get the Led Out blocks for yeeearrrs

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:30 (three years ago)

Yeah I've heard my local classic rock station play Led Zeppelin II in its entirety on more than one occasion

J. Sam, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:34 (three years ago)

Feel like my classic rock station never played Heartbreaker without immediately following w Living Loving Maid and Immigrant Song always followed by Hey hey what Can I do iirc

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:36 (three years ago)

Isn't "Paradise by the Dashboard Light" from the pov of a near-suicidal older man trapped in a marriage with someone he hates, looking back wistfully? I never thought of it as a hormonal adolescent rush at all.

You may be describing Bob Seger's "Night Moves".

Re Metallica, the pre- and post-Black Album bifurcation of their career kinda fascinates me. Like, there are millions and millions of people for whom Load and/or ReLoad were their introduction to the band.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:41 (three years ago)

And there are those, like me, who have heard almost nothing they released post-Black Album

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:46 (three years ago)

Some FM stations used to play whole albums in the late ‘60s/early ‘70s, but that lasted maybe 3-4 years tops. There’s definitely Get The Led Out (my personal favorite is RockIt To ZepTune), but during most of the day — and when these albums were new — FM or “classic rock” radio programming in the US was/is no less “singles” oriented than top 40. It’s just that some of the “singles” weren’t physical singles.

Interestingly, possibly the first LP regularly played in full on the radio didn’t have any single songs extracted from it, for either radio or jukebox purposes: James Brown’s Live At The Apollo.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:47 (three years ago)

xpost That reminds me of that podcast about They Might Be Giants where the hosts didn't really like anything before John Henry.

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 19:49 (three years ago)

that podcast about They Might Be Giants where the hosts didn't really like anything before John Henry.

This is so bizarre I think I need a link

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 20:15 (three years ago)

I don't think I've ever heard Drake

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 20:15 (three years ago)

No way

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 20:19 (three years ago)

I've definitely never heard Drake, except for whatever songs he appeared on on the Weeknd's trilogy of early albums.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 20:20 (three years ago)

how do you know?

brimstead, Tuesday, 7 June 2022 20:22 (three years ago)

Because I don't get exposed to music involuntarily that often. I don't listen to the radio; when I'm out in public, I'm wearing headphones; the only exception to that is the grocery store I shop at, which plays mostly 80s New Wave and/or "classic rock".

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 20:24 (three years ago)

Probably some kind of '70s prog - maybe Yes? I know the name Rick Wakeman but I'm pretty sure I've never actually heard them.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 23:56 (three years ago)

from the 80s but "Owner of a Lonely Heart"?

OG Bob Sacamano (will), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 00:11 (three years ago)

That's Yes?! Well shit.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 00:37 (three years ago)

Some FM stations used to play whole albums in the late ‘60s/early ‘70s, but that lasted maybe 3-4 years tops.

When I was listening to the classic rock station in Austin during the late 90s-early 2000s they ran the "Seventh Day Six-Pack" every Sunday night: starting at 9 or 10 they'd play six full albums into the night. I specifically remember them playing Goodbye Yellow Brick Road.

Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 00:37 (three years ago)

Goes alongside Rush where the only song I know I've heard is "Tom Sawyer."

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 00:38 (three years ago)

didn't get that much exposure to country growing up (unless you count stuff like the Eagles and Bon Jovi). I often hear the argument that people disdain country music because they associate it with a particular demographic but that wasn't even the case because I barely knew anyone at all who listened to it for a long time. I didn't associate it with anyone.xp

Tbf I guess my parents sometimes watched stuff like Dolly Parton and Crystal Gayle on TV.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 9 June 2022 03:28 (three years ago)


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