This Heat box set and reissues.

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Ok I pinched this press release from another board but i'm sure theres plenty who will be interested in this.

PRESS RELEASE


This is! This heat reissues

This is!

A new label set up by Charles Hayward and Charles Bullen through Chris Cutler's ReR Megacorp to reissue in definitive form all of this heat's published CDs, unavailable since the death of Gareth Williams in 2001,and to prepare and release unheard material from their substantial archive.

The series will start with the first album 'this heat' from 1978 (known as "the blue and yellow"), due out in December, fully re-mastered.

The box

To mark the 30th anniversary of the group’s first concert on Friday the thirteenth of February, 1976, This is! will be issuing a limited edition BOX SET comprising all the official releases, newly re-mastered: This Heat, Deceit, Health and Efficiency, Made Available and Repeat, as well as a complete extra CD of previously unreleased material. This will come with a substantial and authoritative book of interviews, articles, rare photographs, memorabilia and documents tracing the history and the work of the group. All of these CDs will also be available singly, and further releases will follow later in the year. Everything will remain in print.

For more information on the label, the box and how to get the advance subscription edition please contact our distributor, ReR Megacorp at rermegacorp@dial.pipex.com

www.rermegacorp.com

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:38 (twenty years ago)

Excellent...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)

to eBay then!

imbidimts, Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:58 (twenty years ago)

Wait, so will this box be in shops, or is it mail order only?

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:59 (twenty years ago)

mine

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

TAKE THAT JESS HARVELL! POST-PUNK LIVES!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

haha i am seriously excited by this!

strongo hulkington's ghost (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

Yeah it took them long enough to get this shit sorted out didn't it?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:07 (twenty years ago)

This is the thread where ILM sings "Cenotaph" in unison.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:09 (twenty years ago)

I wonder how much it will cost.
Ned, if you get a promo of the box you can give me it if you like :-)

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:24 (twenty years ago)

Ahem.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)

! Excitement !

adam (adam), Thursday, 17 November 2005 21:59 (twenty years ago)

oh yes, I'll be acquiring this. (interest sparked by that wire article on cold storage studios a few months back, and simultaneously getting deceit off a friend in mp3 form.)

that guy who pretended to be Ya Kid K that one time (haitch), Friday, 18 November 2005 04:58 (twenty years ago)

About time.

I'll probably buy it just for the unreleased disc, I've got the rest. And because I'm a sucker.

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 18 November 2005 05:03 (twenty years ago)

OH MY GOD. i only have burns of deceit, this heat, and made available. the box is miiiinnneee..

can someone pass this along to tim buckley and the raincoats?

poortheatre (poortheatre), Friday, 18 November 2005 05:08 (twenty years ago)

Ah--the "subscription edition" is available at the ReR site right now for £45 ($78 US).

THIS HEAT BOX SUBSCRIPTION OFFER

THE BOX will contain all the released material, newly re-mastered (This Heat, Deceit, Made Available, Repeat, Health and Efficiency, PLUS a CD of unreleased material selected and re-mastered by Charles Hayward & Charles Bullen, PLUS a fat book of interviews, articles, photograph, memorabilia and documents that trace the history and contextualise work of the group.

For subscribers only, this will be a numbered edition and will come with an extra subscription item. The box is projected for the group’s 30th anniversary on February 13, 2006. Or soon thereafter. Subscribe now and you will receive the re-mastered version of the first record 'This Heat' (Blue and Yellow) in December, and the rest of the box as soon as it is ready.

I.M. (I.M.), Friday, 18 November 2005 05:17 (twenty years ago)

Yum. Gotta get it for the unreleased disc and the book of ephemera. Wonder what the "extra subscription item" is?

sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 18 November 2005 06:34 (twenty years ago)

Damn, I wish I would have sold my CDs for big bucks already. I guess it's too late now.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 18 November 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm glad I was a lazy ass and never got around to spending big bucks to buy those This Heat CDs, and concentrated on the vinyl instead.

do knut (donut), Friday, 18 November 2005 07:37 (twenty years ago)

I guess I'll always have the L@@K OOP wax cylinder editions.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Friday, 18 November 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

Excited about the unreleased cd, I wonder what's on it? Live stuff, studio improvs, UNRELEASED SONGS? Gibber.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Friday, 18 November 2005 09:37 (twenty years ago)

We shall know bounty.

Mestema (davidcorp), Friday, 18 November 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)

Excited about the unreleased cd, I wonder what's on it? Live stuff, studio improvs, UNRELEASED SONGS? Gibber.

All four hopefully. I'm looking forward to the Gibber especially.

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Friday, 18 November 2005 10:35 (twenty years ago)

The series will start with the first album 'this heat' from 1978 (known as "the blue and yellow"), due out in December

Hurrah! Mein project ist saved!

Jeff W (zebedee), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)

post punk re-revival time, it feels like 2001 all over again. heady days.

Theorry Henry (Enrique), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:39 (twenty years ago)

awesomeness, i need pere ubu reissues as well though

rizzx (Rizz), Friday, 18 November 2005 12:00 (twenty years ago)

HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTT

amon (eman), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

All of these CDs will also be available singly, and further releases will follow later in the year. Everything will remain in print.

nice! so it's gonna be like the Faust box, except for the extra mystery item

amon (eman), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

maybe the extra disc will have the Tago Mago cassette remastered?

amon (eman), Friday, 18 November 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

Oooh Tago Mago that would be so nice.

There are a lot of great rehearasals, unreleased tunes, and live tracks already floating around on boots, plenty of good stuff to choose from.

sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)

"Wonder what the "extra subscription item" is?"

"nice! so it's gonna be like the Faust box, except for the extra mystery item"

There was actually an "extra subscription item" for people who ordered the Faust box in advance....

It was a small certicate confirming that you'd ordered the Faust box in advance.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)

you didn't get the booklet with the extra anecdotes and stories?

it was modest but nice

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)

That was in all the boxsets wasn't it?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

what pere ubu needs to be reissued?

petesmith (plsmith), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:12 (twenty years ago)

there were two booklets, the main history that came with every box, and the black & white xeroxed one, autographed with a few extra Peron stories & some scores

milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

I don;t think I got that then. Bastards.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

"what pere ubu needs to be reissued?"

The Tenement Year, Cloudland and (I think) Worlds In Collision

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)

Oh and the original 390 Degrees of Simulated Stereo.

http://www.ubuprojex.net/ubutique.html#pu

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 18 November 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

the modern dance has just had a 5.1 mix, if that floats anyone's boat.

that guy who pretended to be Ya Kid K that one time (haitch), Saturday, 19 November 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)

ah fuckit i'm not paying.

gaznotgaz, Saturday, 19 November 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)

oh yes, I'll be acquiring this. (interest sparked by that wire article on cold storage studios a few months back, and simultaneously getting deceit off a friend in mp3 form.)

-- that guy who pretended to be Ya Kid K that one time (big.jesus.trash.ca...), November 18th, 2005.

yeah that was a good article. the wire is good for something occasionally.

bump, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

ReR is evil, because they have a prohibitively expensive Henry Cow box-set that I want.

do knut (donut), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:23 (twenty years ago)

So steal it. You lazy man.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)

Rock in Opposition...to affordable prices>

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:46 (twenty years ago)

Maybe I need to get some unrest going... get it? Henry Cow? "Unrest"?

Kill me.

do knut (donut), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)

I really want this box. Dave T. never sat me down and ordered me to buy these.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)

I remember the very specific moment, Dave and Todd were both working, I was sitting at the CD listening station on the left, it was a busy afternoon but Dave thought it was a higher priority to introduce me to music I should like then to sell text books and within the first couple of seconds of Sleep from Deceit I was sold, and utterly devastated.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)

I have the two albums, but want to know how much better these remasters sound before I shell out for replacements. (See also: Can remasters thread.)

Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)

faust, art bears and slapp happy remasters sounded incredible, I'd be willing to bet these are no different (wonder if Bob Drake did them...)

Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

Subscribe now and you will receive the re-mastered version of the first record 'This Heat' (Blue and Yellow) in December, and the rest of the box as soon as it is ready.

Er, so it's not going to arrive all in a box, untouched by human hands?

(*groan*)

Regardless, can someone provide a link, or would it be best to hold out for it in specialist music shops in the Antipodes?

Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 24 November 2005 03:05 (twenty years ago)

does mr. syna3sth3sia do bulk orders?

turboalbino (haitch), Thursday, 24 November 2005 03:08 (twenty years ago)

you buy it haitch.

mullygrubbr (bulbs), Thursday, 24 November 2005 05:16 (twenty years ago)

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amon (eman), Thursday, 24 November 2005 06:46 (twenty years ago)

o wpammt tjos sjtoe. upi citmt/

amon (eman), Thursday, 24 November 2005 06:47 (twenty years ago)

is it wrong i just sold my copy of deceit for the price of this whole box (which i just ordered)?

ddb (ddb), Saturday, 26 November 2005 03:51 (twenty years ago)

This Heat played what's essential...only that what matters...
just that...just all of that...

That their recordings are available is what matters...
just that...just all of that matters...

Milo van den Assem, Monday, 5 December 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

The This Heat 'Scala' CD (Scala Cinema, London december 20 1979)
has an incredible sound(board)quality.
A real find to be released as official CD!
A polished up CD version of the Tago Mago cassette
is also very welcome.
I am begging Charles & Charles for another box with previous unreleased stuff: 'You name it - we want it!' one CD is not enough...
and I want to thank everyone involved in the rerelease of this (first) boxset!

And please guys & girls at Recommended can the Metabolist LP 'Hansten Klork' plus 7" tracks and all the rest...
be reissued on CD?!
It's one of the few groups who equals "THE THIS HEAT STANDARDS"
along with the Glaxo Babies' 'Nine Months To The Disco' album.
Well maybe also ImpLOG's 'Holland Tunnel Dive'
(but this was 'only' a 1980 12") and some Throbbing Gristle tracks
like 'Hamburger Lady'.
Anyone more suggestions for the T.T.H.S. awards?
Let me/us know! Share music and it's info.
Remember Gareth Williams.

Milo van den Assem, Monday, 5 December 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)

Glaxo Babies compilation CD out now on Cherry Red. I offered to release all their recordings on 2 seperate CDs, but lost out. Boo-hoo.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 5 December 2005 18:21 (twenty years ago)

And please guys & girls at Recommended can the Metabolist LP 'Hansten Klork' plus 7" tracks and all the rest... be reissued on CD?!

amen to that. not as if they're reading this, but you know...

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 5 December 2005 23:55 (twenty years ago)

a while back the guy that runs the Italian Elica label was trying to track down Metabolist for a full re-issue programme but don't think he managed to track them down to take it any further.

Andrew These, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:11 (twenty years ago)

hopefully he'll forsake ethics and do it anyway.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)

Nah, don't forsake ethics. Anyway, there was a website connected with Metabolist in some way, I think. I remember discovering it when talking about them on ILM before... I can't remember who with. Hold on, I'll check.

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:12 (twenty years ago)

... it was Dominique Leone, of course!

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

... and the website wasn't linked with Metabolist in any way I could see

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)

hey, someone needs to reissue the lemon kittens albums too. that thought just mysteriously occurred to me.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:07 (twenty years ago)

oddly enough the only name that came up as a possible link to the Metabolist people was Karl Blake (as someone who might know where they 'are' now) but again i know not if anything came from this...the guy from Elica would never do it without permission (don't think anyone should presume it's ok to re-release smeone's old recordings without say-so).

Andrew These, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:11 (twenty years ago)

I recorded a demo with my then band in a studio in Tottenham in about 1986, and it turned out the engineer was Simon Millward from Metabolist! Admittedly that was almost 20 years ago, so not much use really.

Actually a quick search turned up this : http://www.pc-publishing.com/fgcsx2.html
Probably him.

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)

Google is a wonderful thing :
http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/catalog/view/au/2208

Matt #2 (Matt #2), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)

I don't think that Italian guy was trying very hard. So when the Metabolist CDs are eventually issued i think ILM and Matt #2 deserve to be thanked in the sleevenotes!

We Buy a Hammer For Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)

i feel like running a label and being able to use google are mutually exclusive.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

some of us are good at it. (or at least, capable of running a label and using google!)

One of the Metabolist sites lists a connection to Mark Beer.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)

it's true it can often come up with the result straight away, i was once given the task of trying to find one of the long-lost-members of :zoviet*france: who the others hadn't seen for over ten years, google turned him up in about three minutes!

Andrew These, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

back in the days of usenet I used to leave messages "does anyone know so-an-so or where I can find so-and-so or anyone who knows so-and-so" and like a year later I'd get a message from some 1979 post-punk obscurity "can I help you?"

Still looking for John Bender though!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 16:43 (twenty years ago)

oh man, just got a copy of the I DON'T REMEMBER NOW lp from a friend of mine...have you tried sending a letter to the label address? silly idea, but i was considering it the other day.

Dan Gu (uncannydan), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:28 (twenty years ago)

I don't have the record. Can't remember if it's on the website...care to send it to me?

I did email 2 people in Cincinnati, one of whom had worked with him over the years but he never wrote me back.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 18:42 (twenty years ago)

Still looking for John Bender though!

have you tried emailing john olson from american tapes/wolf eyes? world's biggest fan, i've read.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 8 December 2005 00:49 (twenty years ago)

didn't know that.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 8 December 2005 01:35 (twenty years ago)

get those bender lps reissued dan!

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 8 December 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)

four weeks pass...
I just spoke to ReR and apparently the re-mastered version of the first record, 'This Heat' (Blue and Yellow), arrived with them yesterday and should be sent out today and tomorrow.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 6 January 2006 11:22 (twenty years ago)

yay

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 6 January 2006 13:14 (twenty years ago)

Thanks. I was just about to chase them myself.

Jeff W (zebedee), Friday, 6 January 2006 13:24 (twenty years ago)

I chased them yesterday too. I think it may have been the parcel I have to go collect in the morning (either that or it's a fela box set I ordered. either way I'm happy)

simon 803 (simon 803), Friday, 6 January 2006 14:35 (twenty years ago)

re-mastered blue and yellow arrived in los angeles today. it's very exciting.

dan (dan), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 02:27 (twenty years ago)

i forgot to order this ,shit!!!%(*^

HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 04:04 (twenty years ago)

where can i order the box?

Christopher Costello (CGC), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 03:04 (twenty years ago)

Order from the ReR Megacorp website - the URL is at the end of the first post on this thread.

Someone tell me about 'Health and Efficiency', 'Made Available' and 'Repeat'. How do they compare to the first two LPs? I received my copy of This Heat last week (which is fab, and I like most of Deceit too). So I am pondering getting the rest of the box. I don't want to end up with a lot of stuff I'll only ever listen to once though.

Jeff W (zebedee), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 12:25 (twenty years ago)

Health and Efficency might be the best thing they ever did. Made Available contains essential alt. Peel session versions of alb tracks etc. Repeat is one long drone-drift thing, and is the only one of the three that you might only ever listen to once.

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 12:29 (twenty years ago)

(tho one track on Repeat is the original, extended version of "24 track loop" - and I've played that lots)

Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 13:18 (twenty years ago)

the made available peel session versions are better than the album versions

HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 13:50 (twenty years ago)

You might be right. They are towering and formidable.

Does anybody have any idea of the unreleased disc's contents yet? I have all of this already and am hesitant to buy.

sleeve (sleeve), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:05 (twenty years ago)

same here, but i thought each of the discs, including the unreleased one, would be available separately anyway?

HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 00:37 (twenty years ago)

fuck that's expensive. someone pls buy for me, thanks.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 04:36 (twenty years ago)

i may be getting a promo of this. i'll ysi. (ha ha)

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 04:39 (twenty years ago)

fuck.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 04:39 (twenty years ago)

fuck pt. 2: shit

HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 04:57 (twenty years ago)

NOT THAT I WOULD DO SUCH A THING

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 05:00 (twenty years ago)

no, you really want to send me your supposed promo copy. really.

hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 05:02 (twenty years ago)

dibs on momus's promo!!?¿¿¿¿¿

HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 05:04 (twenty years ago)

well chances are it won't happen and i certainly don't have the scratch to buy one

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 05:05 (twenty years ago)

I'm probably too late to hawk my original CD reish's on eBay, huh? fuck, day late and a dollar short.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 05:21 (twenty years ago)

and yeah, agree w/ amon on Made Available, at least re the tracks from the 1st album: just vicious

Stormy Davis (diamond), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 05:27 (twenty years ago)

my bet would be that it's the Tago Mago cassette.

Beta (abeta), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:14 (twenty years ago)

maybe some live stuff. oh, and apparently box will be delayed a bit

Dominique (dleone), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:20 (twenty years ago)

the CD comes with a "this heat subscription offer" that says the box set'll be available on "the group's 30 anniversary on February 13, 2006." It'll "contain not only all their official releases, newly re-mastered (This Heat, Deceit, Made Available, Repeat, Health and Efficiency) but also a new CD of unreleased material, selected and mastered by Charles Hayward & Charles Bullen. This will come with a fat book of interviews, articles, rare photographs, memorabilia and documents tracing the history and the work of the group. It will be the definitive release."

If you buy This Heat, you let them know, and they send you the box set without This Heat, at a reduced price.

prince rupert, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:50 (twenty years ago)

is anyone else selling it?
i don't have a credit card and i don't feel like ordering anything from the uk.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:36 (twenty years ago)

someone fwd this to the POP GROUP too!

my name is... (downtown81), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 23:24 (twenty years ago)

is anyone else selling it?
i don't have a credit card and i don't feel like ordering anything from the uk

ReR Megacorp will accept payment by cheque drawn on a US bank. I seem to recall they also have a contact address in the US, although I'm not sure if they're accepting orders for the Box through that address (yet).

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 19 January 2006 12:18 (twenty years ago)

http://www.rerusa.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=RERUSA&Category_Code=THISHEAT

HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Thursday, 19 January 2006 13:55 (twenty years ago)

http://www.rerusa.com/images/categories/ThisHeat.jpg

HAKKEBOFFER (eman), Thursday, 19 January 2006 13:56 (twenty years ago)

Warner UK is planning Pop Group reissues, but nobody knows how soon, and it may only be for Y. Other labels are working around some other possibilities.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 19 January 2006 14:18 (twenty years ago)

I totally caved and ordered this. I'll be drinking High Life for a while I guess--stupid exchange rate. Has anyone gotten the first CD yet?

adam (adam), Sunday, 29 January 2006 18:51 (twenty years ago)

yeah it came in the mail a week or two ago. i just had time to listen to it for the first time today. sounds great, obviously much better than the old CD-R i used to have.

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 29 January 2006 19:16 (twenty years ago)

you're glad a post-punk cd got reissued?

imbidimts, Monday, 30 January 2006 00:59 (twenty years ago)

there has to be an easier way to get this.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Monday, 30 January 2006 01:14 (twenty years ago)

80 bux shipped isn't bad for 6 CDs and a book.

adam (adam), Monday, 30 January 2006 01:15 (twenty years ago)

yeah, but i don't have a credit card.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Monday, 30 January 2006 01:44 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha me neither--but they helpfully take Paypal.

adam (adam), Monday, 30 January 2006 01:58 (twenty years ago)

i thought paypal only worked with a credit card.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Monday, 30 January 2006 01:59 (twenty years ago)

Bank account linkage fuels my ebay madness.

adam (adam), Monday, 30 January 2006 02:01 (twenty years ago)

word.

sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 30 January 2006 02:10 (twenty years ago)

i don't have a bank account.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Monday, 30 January 2006 02:35 (twenty years ago)

does junlgerz know '24 Track Loop'? curious what influence that track has had over time

rizzx, Monday, 30 January 2006 08:20 (twenty years ago)

Amazon UK are now listing the first CD and taking pre-orders. Yesterday they had it available as from today. But now it's listed as released on 6th Feb. So maybe it will make it into some bricks and mortar shops too soon.

zebedee (zebedee), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:12 (twenty years ago)

everyone sez "24 track loop" soundz like jungle -- and it duz -- but i don't think it had any direct influence on darkcore. more like, you get the same effect whenever you put a breakbeat through a buncha filters and a pitch-shifter and it just took 25 years for someone to try it again.

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:23 (twenty years ago)

oh btw, I'm sending you a mailbomb cancer prone fat guy for nabbing my review

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:32 (twenty years ago)

hee hee

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:32 (twenty years ago)

i wonder what kind of fits ilm will convulse into when i give a post-punk reissue probably close to a 10.0

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:33 (twenty years ago)

shouldn't be any fits. I'm consistently disappointed at the lack of reaction I get when I talk about this heat to people

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:34 (twenty years ago)

i dig the extended version of 24 track loop on the repeat cd alot more than the orig.

|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l| (eman), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:36 (twenty years ago)

i wonder what kind of fits ilm will convulse into when i give a post-punk reissue probably close to a 10.0

You mean you like This Heat more than A Certain Ratio? HOW DARE YOU. You must love everything!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:38 (twenty years ago)

Other Music has it listed on their site

|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l|l| (eman), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 04:14 (twenty years ago)

c'mon, on the New Music mailing list, I got pounced on for daring to call This Heat post-punk at all. Clearly they're post-Henry Cow "punky" progressive art-rock featuring experimental production, accessible song-writing, a "non-musician", who happened to be involved with Rough Trade around the turn of the decade...nothing post-punk about that.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 4 February 2006 23:53 (twenty years ago)

thing is, one of the reasons This Heat is good (in a political sense) is because I can always bring them up to punks who thing prog really is a 4 letter word. In actuality, TH were one of those bands that really weren't anything in particular (and perhaps that's why they still seem totally beyond the mainstream, even 25 years after the fact), but the fact they cavorted with bands who were decidedly post punk or decidedly avant garde and avant-prog...well, they're a very handy reference to have when rebutting the legions of people who think knowing how to play or improvising onstage or whatever is masturbatory bullshit

and yes, I'm drunk ;)

Dominique (dleone), Sunday, 5 February 2006 01:53 (twenty years ago)

Ah, so the true Dom comes out -- showing up those know-nothing punks. I can see it now:

Dom: "Listen, a'ight? This Fucking Heat could fucking play like nobody's business. And it wasn't no 'Starship Trooper' bollocks with the keyboards neither -- but rather some real avant shit, with tape loops, odd meters, and processing with short delays, long feedback and brittle EQ. Hayward had a background in crossrhythms that were almost West African in feel while his compatriot Bullen reveled in post-Ulmer jazz chops -- theirs was the ultimate postmodern improvisational trip, getit?"

Punk: "This who?"

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 5 February 2006 06:42 (twenty years ago)

Dom, the morning after: "I what?"

Dominique (dleone), Sunday, 5 February 2006 14:11 (twenty years ago)

Ha ha ha, awesome.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 5 February 2006 16:13 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
Has anyone gotten the remainder of the set yet?

Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Monday, 20 March 2006 01:04 (twenty years ago)

not yet. would bet his month, shouldn't it, donut?

Jack Cole (jackcole), Monday, 20 March 2006 01:20 (twenty years ago)

why it took such a long time for da ppl to discover This Heat? we who were there from the start were just a few. and we who kept listening to them and defending their work in the 80s and 90s were even much fewer. and now every lil kid that wasn't even born when the boys disbanded praise them. vain is the world. anyways tis good tho but a lil late that ppl explore some real music. more sad is that no real successors came after. but who is to be blamed? seems like the boys filled up the tank of ideas for decades.

Col. Mohr, Monday, 20 March 2006 13:55 (twenty years ago)

I have listened to the band since 1978, bought their early live tapes, and saw them live in 1980. I must say I *love* the fact that kidz are picking the band up now. The way This Heat used vocals, not for singalong ditties but for contrapunctual effect, is what I like most today. But for sheer avant garde qualities I would have to say that Rimp Ramp Romp (which sounds fantastic on the CD, but very good already on my old hissy tapes from the original BBC broadcast from 1977) takes the first prize. The last riff before the long gongs fadeout is 100% Carcass-proof! I tested it on my mate who used to play lead guitar in Dismember and has been in many death metal bands, and he could not believe it was recorded in 1977. That guitar riff alone was 10 years ahead of its time, and before Hellhammer, Morbid et al. went there. Other people have named Metabolist which I also think was ahead of their time (and which our fanzine interviewed in 1980, must try and find that one, hm...), e.g. with the guitar playing on Identify, but even they are nowhere near the outlandish sound of Rimp Ramp Romp. Listen again to that track and try n tell me I am wrong.

Dilettante Productions (dilettante), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, I wasn't alive at the time! I think getting into them at 18 isn't bad.

No, I haven't gotten the rest of the set yet. A recent email is talking about late April. I'm looking forward to this immensely. I've had the albums and "Made Available" for a few years now, but these EPs are new to me.

By the way, can anyone tell me about the Tago Mago cassette? Will any of that be included in the set, and is it good?

Jimmy M (Jimmy M), Sunday, 26 March 2006 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

^^^^ "had" as in "had downloaded," I should say.

Jimmy M (Jimmy M), Sunday, 26 March 2006 01:46 (nineteen years ago)

and now every lil kid that wasn't even born when the boys disbanded praise them. vain is the world.

you stupid bitter old fuck

smokemon (eman), Sunday, 26 March 2006 03:26 (nineteen years ago)

OTM

sleep sleep sleep (sleep), Sunday, 26 March 2006 03:47 (nineteen years ago)

blue/yellow remaster looks and sounds amazing

smokemon (eman), Friday, 31 March 2006 05:09 (nineteen years ago)

it does. I did not delay long in ordering the box after I got it.

haitch (haitch), Friday, 31 March 2006 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

i caved in and ordered the box (after trading in the older cd versions). just in time, i guess, as its released this month right?

smokemon (eman), Monday, 10 April 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

I was going to revive this yesterday as I got debited for my order a couple of days ago. it must be v. close to shipping if they're doing that, hopefully.

haitch (haitch), Monday, 10 April 2006 01:16 (nineteen years ago)

Every time this thread get's revived I think it's going to be with someone saying that their box has arrived and that means that mine might be there when I get home from work. Gahhhh....

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Monday, 10 April 2006 07:34 (nineteen years ago)

I presume a lot of people are only hearing it for the first time now because they didn't fancy paying dickweed prices for second-hand copies on ebay.

I just got the s/t, and it sounds every bit as great as I hoped it would. Pretty astonishing, actually.

Mestema (davidcorp), Monday, 10 April 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

I spoke to RER today - it sounded like they're pretty much all packed and labelled up ready to go out....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 10 April 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

I hope a lot of people will hear it for the first time. I got lucky and picked up the last go-round during the couple of years (?) it was all in print.

I haven't listened closely, but I don't hear a big difference between the '92 (?) issue of 'This Heat' and the new "remaster". Which is fine with me--I was afraid these would be hard compressed and lose a lot of the space in the mix.

I.M. (I.M.), Monday, 10 April 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

when will they release deceit by itself? oh maybe I should just get the box

kyle (akmonday), Monday, 10 April 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

they're pretty much all packed and labelled up ready to go out....

guh

smokemon (eman), Monday, 10 April 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

Remember this is RER we're talking about (bless 'em).

It'll probably take 'em another 3-4 weeks to get their shit together sufficiently to buy some stamps; then they'll have to get all those packages down to the Post Office somehow....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

box set now apparently for May 10

also, Cutler reports possible unreleased Henry Cow stuff out later this year (and new Biota!)

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Later this year meaning the middle of next year presumably.

I know the Megacorp bit is ironic but does it have to be so ironic.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 13 April 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Dominique + others, where are your sources for these release dates? are they sending emails to subscribers?

name (eman), Thursday, 13 April 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

are they sending emails to subscribers?

No. This is RER.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 13 April 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

Cutler post at Yahoo ReR group: http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ReRmegacorp/

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 13 April 2006 22:53 (nineteen years ago)

thx. not exactly "packed and labelled up ready to go out" then.

name (eman), Thursday, 13 April 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

"are they sending emails to subscribers?"

"No. This is RER."

Actually I received an e-mail from them on 21st March, which I assumed was intended for all subscribers:

"THIS HEAT BOX

Dear friends and subscribers,

Here's an update.

Almost everything is ready now; we wait only the final selection and mastering of the live CD. Current projections, with fingers crossed, point at late April, so please don't worry if your box hasn't arrived before then. You will be the first to receive it when it's done, promise.

Sorry, as ever, for the delays.

cc

ReR central"

"not exactly "packed and labelled up ready to go out" then."

Well, this was certainly the impression that I received when I spoke to them last week (for the 3rd or 4th time, trying to persuade them to send the boxset to my new address this time, rather than the address I moved out of 4 months ago like they did with the first disc after they'd promised me they'd updated my address in their records) and they'd eventually managed to identify my order from the clearly inadequate information that I'd previously given them on a mere 2 or 3 occasions to help them to search for it (unfortunately I was only able to give them my name, my e-mail address, my old and new postal addresses, the date on which I'd placed the order, the order number they'd given me, a copy of the e-mail on which they'd confirmed receipt of my order, the details of the bank account from which they'd taken the money and the date on which they'd taken it, and the e-mail they'd sent me above - so obviously this can't have been easy for them!).

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 14 April 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

stewart, that wasn't a dig at you btw. i'm sure they're saying lots of things to keep people at bay.

name, Friday, 14 April 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't take it as a dig at me, I just think they'd struggle to organise a piss up in a brewery.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Saturday, 15 April 2006 09:37 (nineteen years ago)

This just in:

"THIS HEAT BOX NEWS

The Live CD is finished, the book is done, all the artwork has been approved, the remastering is complete and manufacture is in process. Release date: June the 1st. We’ll try to get you yours a little early if we can. Assuming no hitches from here on..

Thanks again for your continuing patience!"

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

It's been delayed again... they forgot to go to the shop to get envelopes.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
How much longer for this damn thing?

Uluc Ulgen, Sunday, 21 May 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

Welcome to ReR Land.

In ReR Land, "June" usually translates into English as "November". Maybe November of 2006, maybe not. (If you're lucky, it won't be December of 2007.)

I'm old enough to have subscribed to Faust and Slapp Happy vinyl reissues. I have fond memories of receiving them hot off the press, only 14-16 months after the reassuring Cutler postcards exclaiming "No! Really! They're definitely coming out NEXT MONTH!" arrived in my postbox.

All part of the fun, really. Just keep telling yourself that.

Hot Hot Heat, Sunday, 21 May 2006 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.dmusic.com/v7/emoticons/banghead.gif

guess papers (eman), Monday, 22 May 2006 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

Assuming no hitches from here on..
Assuming no hitches from here on..
Assuming no hitches from here on..
Assuming no hitches from here on..
Assuming no hitches from here on..

guess papers (eman), Monday, 22 May 2006 00:01 (nineteen years ago)

ha, I met three other people on saturday night who have this on order and they all joked about the "mega"corp's response times. am I the only one to have received prompt service from them in the past??

lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Monday, 22 May 2006 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

And besides that, when are they going to put these out in fucking normal, single-album reissues so I don't have to buy every album made by a band from whom I've only heard about half an album of material.

Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Monday, 22 May 2006 00:46 (nineteen years ago)

At a guess I'd say they'll make the single album versions availableas soon as they're sure that they've sold as many full boxsets at full price as possible to those of us who already own at least 2/3 of the contents of the box but aren't prepared to wait until then.

Seriously 'though, aren't they already selling the first album on its own and selling box-sets minus the first album to people who've bought the first album on its own?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 May 2006 08:48 (nineteen years ago)

They are like the Wire box then.

There's two albums new in that, but it's £50 so I'll just have to wait.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 May 2006 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

A Wire box? With two new albums in it? tell me more!

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 May 2006 10:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.posteverything.com/artists/release.php?id=14235

It's all here.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 May 2006 10:08 (nineteen years ago)

Aaaaah, oh, ok, thanks.

Hmmmm.

I assume that the general consensus is: "we've already bought Pink Flag, Chairs Missing and 154 quite enough times already thank you very much - so we'll just wait until the live stuff is available separately, if it's all the same to you?".

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 May 2006 10:12 (nineteen years ago)

Well, after much soul searching, it is with me.

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 22 May 2006 10:13 (nineteen years ago)

Well, if you happen to change your mind, you could always burn me a copies of of the live material....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 22 May 2006 10:39 (nineteen years ago)

I too have received prompt service from RER in the past so I'm sticking with the June 1 story for now...

strom (strom), Monday, 22 May 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

This thing is now being mailed to subscribers. Book is 43 pages, ostly full-colour. Sub item is a 3" CD of a concert from Nivelles 07/03/1981.

Hot Hot Heat, Friday, 26 May 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

nice.

lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

The postman tried to deliver something today which was apparently too big for my letterbox and I can't think what else it could be....

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 26 May 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

I am gonna be so disappointed then if this doesn't come tomorrow. 3"CD!

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Friday, 26 May 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

let us ramp up the anticipation level, I had kind of forgotten about this after paying for it back in February or whenever.

I don't have any of the 1981 show, that is very exciting news.

sleeve (sleeve), Saturday, 27 May 2006 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

what happened to the complete extra CD of previously unreleased material

Q('.'Q) (eman), Saturday, 27 May 2006 03:55 (nineteen years ago)

isn't that still in there? the 3" CD is just for the subscribers.

lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Saturday, 27 May 2006 07:25 (nineteen years ago)

awaiting

Dominique (dleone), Saturday, 27 May 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

No shit. I hope the still-shady New Orleans mail service doesn't make this "disappear" like they've been doing with a bunch of my stuff since the storm.

adam (adam), Sunday, 28 May 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

Great. I'll be greeting the mailman next week then.

strom (strom), Sunday, 28 May 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

I just dropped trou for this & the Art Bears box. COME ON RERRERERERR!

David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 28 May 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

The box artwork:

http://www.rermegacorp.com/images/products/ReR/thisHeatColdStorage.jpg

van igloo (van smack), Monday, 29 May 2006 00:06 (nineteen years ago)

"Henry Cow Box - 7 CDs, box. Very sturdily boxed edition containing the Concerts double as well as the other four Henry Cow releases and Henry Cow/SlappHappy's 'Desperate Straights' - all in facsimile original board LP style covers with an extra subscription-only item in a limited edition of 200 numbered copies. For September release. Advance subscription available now. Until they run out. But you are the first to know.

This special price is for subscribers of the This Heat Box - Please add your this heat subscription number in the field: 'Use this area for alternate selections and additional sale items' at checkout time."

100 pounds wtf!!!!

adam (adam), Monday, 29 May 2006 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

hot damn it'd wanna be pretty fuckin' sturdy.

lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Monday, 29 May 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

100 pounds = $185. for, what 7 or 8 CDs? Fuck that.

sleeve (sleeve), Monday, 29 May 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Must be big fun to purchase such a 'revolutionary' Marxist album as "In Praise of Learning" as part of a 100 quid box set.

Still awaiting my This Heat box. My friend got his last Friday. Anyone else got it yet?

Hot Hot Heat, Tuesday, 30 May 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

is your friend uk or us?

Q('.'Q) (eman), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 01:47 (nineteen years ago)

got it. I think the high point (other than the fact that actually owning deceit after all these years is utterly wonderful) is the liner notes run through of the recording and/or writing process. the 3" cd is a bit of a shoulder shrug. nice to have though. overall I'm just glad I finally own it.

simon 803 (simon 803), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 01:47 (nineteen years ago)

talk about the "complete extra CD of previously unreleased material" plzzzzzz. it's really the only reason i ordered this shit, that and the book i guess

Q('.'Q) (eman), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 02:14 (nineteen years ago)

Lucky friend is in Edinburgh; I'm stuck in the States for the next few months. I had to give ReR a change of address, which I pray hasn't blown their minds.

Hot Hot Heat, Tuesday, 30 May 2006 02:27 (nineteen years ago)

lol, good luck w/ that.

seems i was under the impression there would be the unreleased disc AND the subscription-only disc

THE BOX will contain all the released material, newly re-mastered (This Heat, Deceit, Made Available, Repeat, Health and Efficiency, PLUS a CD of unreleased material selected and re-mastered by Charles Hayward & Charles Bullen, PLUS a fat book of interviews, articles, photograph, memorabilia and documents that trace the history and contextualise work of the group.

For subscribers only, this will be a numbered edition and will come with an extra subscription item.

but the description at squidco is:

Inside the box, 6 CDs: Blue & Yellow, Deceit, Health & Efficiency, Repeat, Made Available-Peel Sessions, and Live. The last CD is previously unreleased material.

Q('.'Q) (eman), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

that wouldn't be the subscription version tho surely? I thought that would only be through RER.

lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 03:31 (nineteen years ago)

"extra subscription item" = bumper sticker

Q('.'Q) (eman), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

"my other car is on order and will be shipping any month now"

lil' merzbow wow (haitch), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 04:06 (nineteen years ago)

subscription item is the 3" cd with 1 track clocking in at just under 6 minutes. a bit of a cock tease but it does come with your name written on it...
they got my change of address though I did remind them 3 times.

simon 803 (simon 803), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 08:07 (nineteen years ago)

Mine came today. Hell yeah. Thank god I stayed home today with a vicious headache--now I get to soothe it with a ridiculous pile of prog.

adam (adam), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

First 30 seconds of "Sleep" are a revelation. The shitty 128kbps MP3s I burned years ago didn't do this record justice at all.

adam (adam), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

WHERE IS MINE!!!

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

I'm asking myself the same thing, Patrick. I share your pain.

Hot Hot Heat (Hot Hot Heat), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

These discs have been remastered, yes? How's the sound--not too compressed, I hope?

I'm just glad the stuff is in print and readily available. I have it all and have for years (except for the live disc, which I don't really care about), but I hated recommending it to people knowing they'd have to pay eBay prices (if they could find it at all).

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

if someone could elobrate on what these cds sound like that'd be great. And also, are the people who've recieved it from Europe or the States?

Uluc, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

Can someone detail the remastering specs?

I have the originals and they sound fine.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

when is deceit coming out on it's own again? that's the only thing I'm interested in

kyle (akmonday), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

i hope these will be in print for a few years...

kuriousornj, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

Mine still hasn't arrived. I think that RER have seen me make fun of them on this thread and are punishing me.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 1 June 2006 07:24 (nineteen years ago)

I emailed ReR yesterday. They say they've mailed out "some" but now have some "unexpected delays" in getting more out. I assume they'll "resume" once the "delays" have been resolved.

Christ. What the hell is wrong with them? What sort of delays can actually happen? Did they get distracted shipping out those million-selling Biota or Lindsay Cooper CDs?

Hot Hot Heat (Hot Hot Heat), Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

maybe the boxes got lost in the mail on the way to them - that's what happened to Bob Drake's What Day Is It? CDs right before they got reissued

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

I say aargh to "unexpected delays"

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 1 June 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

I got it today!

Weird that they used an extra empty digipak of "Deceit" to fill out the space in the box where the 1st one goes. I thought those things cost more than CDs to make...

Alas I must go back to work now. Will crank the tunes tonight!

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

"unexpected delays" = ran out of sellotape.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe it's not too late to sell all my original copies on eBay for lots of money. . .

I.M. (I.M.), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder if I can get lots of money on ebay for my Camberwell Now CD. Now THAT album is a real piece of crap.

Hot Hot Heat (Hot Hot Heat), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

Ouch! I respectfully disagree, unless you are talking about the "Greenfingers" 12" which I find sub-par.

See also:

Camberwell Now

In my letter (which I didn't read earlier) it says:

"There is an empty Deceit case in place of your B/Y to stop everything from rattling about. You may want to keep it as a rare misprint pocketless version of that cover."

Well, that answers THAT question. On to the listening! I am very pleased that the live stuff includes neither the Krefeld gig or the Scala Cinema gig, both of which I have already.

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

...and the extra Deceit case is suitable for storing that extra 3" CD (which, oddly, looks like it was a 5" CD ground down to a 3" disc).

Ernest P. (ernestp), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone from the west coast receive theirs yet?

van igloo (van smack), Thursday, 1 June 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm in Oregon.

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 1 June 2006 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

Ahhh

van igloo (van smack), Thursday, 1 June 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.dmusic.com/v7/emoticons/banghead.gif

Q('.'Q) (eman), Thursday, 1 June 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

>(which, oddly, looks like it was a 5" CD ground down to a 3" disc).

this explains the delay

I can just see chris and maggie sanding down each one by hand

milton parker (Jon L), Thursday, 1 June 2006 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

I just can't stand that wanky bass playing in Camberwell Now, plus the lyrics aren't too different from your average Crass band from the era. The whole thing just makes me wince.

Oh, and if the 3" CD is ground down from a regular 5" one, you may want to consider backing it up now. Those edgeless discs *will* rot away sooner rather than later.

Hot Hot Heat (Hot Hot Heat), Thursday, 1 June 2006 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

"Health And Efficiency" sounds huge and spacious - and I have the 12". I'm pleased.

In the liner notes for the live disc it says:

"Further CDs from other stages in This Heat's music to follow, including collaborations, improvisations, and site-specific work as well as other live CDs."

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

I think it's almost certain that the Tago Mago tape will be part of that second round of stuff.

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 1 June 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

also sez that the 3" disc was originally released on ReR Quarterly Volume 2 #1 (March 1987 - an LP I assume). Which I don't have, so all the better.

sleeve (sleeve), Thursday, 1 June 2006 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

OK, so I've been looking for this for a while, but have somehow missed this thread before now. Can someone explain a few things to me:

1. Is squidco the cheapest place to order it online for US customers or will it be available places like Amazon, etc.?
2. Is all the stuff other than the self-titled and Deceit worth owning?
3. Is there any known time that the discs might be released separately?

Lee is Free (Lee is Free), Friday, 2 June 2006 00:16 (nineteen years ago)

1 no idea

2 yes, "Health And Efficiency" is maybe their best song, the Peel Sessions are sometimes better (to my ears) than the LP versions, the live stuff is interesting, and the book is very nice.

3 no idea, but it has been said that this will happen at some unspecified later date.

sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 2 June 2006 00:30 (nineteen years ago)

WHERE THE FUCK

Q('.'Q) (eman), Monday, 5 June 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

So who's the sneak embedding that gif in the lower right corner?

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 5 June 2006 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

;]

Q('.'Q) (eman), Monday, 5 June 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

100 pounds wtf!!!!

I will support ReR for as long as I'm buying records, but yeah this is a bit steep (especially considering I've always liked HC more in theory than in reality).

Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 00:02 (nineteen years ago)

Someone else can see the little headbanger? I thought it was just me losing the plot.

cnwb (cnwb), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 00:13 (nineteen years ago)

The bonus 3" disc track is surprisingly fleshed out. Pretty neat--I hope there's more to come, and not at a rate of one disc per three or four years as one suspects. . . Hell, if they "recorded everything," there's bound to be loads of great stuff.

Does sound quite good, not too compressed, a relief.

I.M. (I.M.), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

still haven't gotten mine yet. :[

((((((DOPplur)))n)))u))))tttt (donut), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

Tomorrow. It MUST come tomorrow. Lord knows the cost was sufficient to merit a prompt delivery. *grumble grumble*

JMMMusic (Jimmy M), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:39 (nineteen years ago)

What do you know! I received mine the other day. Very nice and amazing sound. Far, far better than the original CDs. ReR remastering is all over the place. These sound incredible. Other things, like the Art Bears and Slapp Happy remasters, sound worse than the old CDs.

Everything about this set is delicious.

Hot Hot Heat (Hot Hot Heat), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 07:35 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, the ReRstork has finally come. :D

(the same day I got the new slew of Can reissues: Can Delay 1968, Flow Motion, Saw Delight, Can, and Rite Time... jeebus)

((((((DOPplur)))n)))u))))tttt (donut), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 03:32 (nineteen years ago)

Grrrr.

Thanks for reminding me about the Can reissues. :( Now I need to weigh in my mind whether my love for Can is such as to be truly completist.

JMMMusic (Jimmy M), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.dmusic.com/v7/emoticons/hyper.gif

Q('.'Q) (eman), Thursday, 8 June 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

WHERE IS MINE!

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

I've pretty much only listened to This Heat for the last three days.

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

SO DOPE

Q('.'Q) (eman), Thursday, 8 June 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

Pure joy.

Hey Dominique, you write for Pitchfork, do you not? Are you reviewing this set?

JMMMusic (Jimmy M), Friday, 9 June 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

design on the box is kinda wack.

Washable School Paste (sexyDancer), Friday, 9 June 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Dominique, you write for Pitchfork, do you not? Are you reviewing this set?

oh btw, I'm sending you a mailbomb cancer prone fat guy for nabbing my review

-- Dominique (d_leon...), January 30th, 2006. (dleone)

hee hee

-- cancer prone fat guy (wt...), January 30th, 2006. (dubplatestyle)

i wonder what kind of fits ilm will convulse into when i give a post-punk reissue probably close to a 10.0

-- cancer prone fat guy (wt...), January 30th, 2006. (dubplatestyle)

sleeve (sleeve), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

design on the box is kinda wack.

SHUT UP

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 9 June 2006 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

the overall design or just the box cover? the booklet looks great

Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 9 June 2006 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

Can anyone tell me if there are any better versions of "The Rough with the Smooth" available? This Heat playing Beatles/Olivia Tremor Control is almost the greatest idea ever.

JMMMusic (Jimmy M), Monday, 12 June 2006 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

Got mine today. Very nice. Didn't get any extra Deceit-digipack though.

strom (strom), Monday, 12 June 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

putting ad copy on the back of the box ... it's poor

Washable School Paste (sexyDancer), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

still haven't gotten mine!! :-(

(though i now have copies of everything in. i still want the box, goddammit.)

applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Monday, 12 June 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

:-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

applejack carney (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 15 June 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Just think. If any of us had the 5000 quid for that Henry Cow box we could now start a thread frustratingly waiting for that to arrive.

Hot Hot Heat (Hot Hot Heat), Friday, 16 June 2006 04:10 (nineteen years ago)

Well, you know, it's hard to ship cattle to domestic residences, much less rubber cement limited edition CDs on their backs.

aDOring NUTbians (donut), Friday, 16 June 2006 04:45 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
anyone get a free compilation in the mail from ReR? it's called "ReR USA Sampler / Disk Green". 23 tracks, nothing unreleased as far as i can tell but it has This Heat, Tod Dockstader/David Lee Myers, Slapp Happy, Mnemonists, The Work, etc..

señor citizen (eman), Friday, 15 September 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

yes - lots of good stuff on that (see also After Dinner!!)

Dominique (dleone), Saturday, 16 September 2006 00:24 (nineteen years ago)

six months pass...
Flaming Tunes is getting reissued next month!

am0n, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 01:06 (eighteen years ago)

when are they going to put out deceit by itself, not in the box? i don't want the box! I just want deceit!

akm, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 03:16 (eighteen years ago)

Flaming Tunes is fantastic, I like it more then some This Heat stuff.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 04:11 (eighteen years ago)

didn't they already do a separate remaster of deceit? like before the box set even came out?

looking forward to flaming tunes!!!

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 07:11 (eighteen years ago)

Flaming Tunes is getting reissued next month!

*weeps with joy*

sleeve, Thursday, 29 March 2007 20:25 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.myspace.com/gosbo37

am0n, Thursday, 29 March 2007 22:43 (eighteen years ago)

also lol:

http://www.myspace.com/charlesbullen

am0n, Thursday, 29 March 2007 22:44 (eighteen years ago)

I messaged Charles Hayward on myspace once, and he totally wrote me back!

Dominique, Thursday, 29 March 2007 22:52 (eighteen years ago)

they did a remaster of This Heat and put it out by itself, but not deceit or anything else.

akm, Thursday, 29 March 2007 23:10 (eighteen years ago)

the other 5 discs in the box are now all available via web / mail order as of two weeks ago, retail coming soon after

the 2CD ReR sampler comes with any purchase over $25. I would have picked different tracks but only because it's still basically my favorite record label in the world & I'm ready to split hairs

Milton Parker, Thursday, 29 March 2007 23:19 (eighteen years ago)

ouch, $17.95

http://www.rerusa.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=RERUSA&Category_Code=THISHEAT

& pick up a few of them Bob Drake CDs that you can never find in stores while you're there

Milton Parker, Thursday, 29 March 2007 23:25 (eighteen years ago)

two years pass...

Flaming Tunes is getting reissued next month!

― am0n, Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:06 PM

this finally happened btw

http://flamingtunes.com

am0n, Saturday, 27 June 2009 16:52 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.lifeandlivingrecords.com/shop/ft/ft.html

am0n, Saturday, 27 June 2009 16:52 (sixteen years ago)

omg that is incredibly fucking awesome news! one of my favorite records from this bunch.

sleeve, Saturday, 27 June 2009 17:14 (sixteen years ago)

six months pass...

i got that flaming tunes reissue finally, sounds great

♖♕♖ (am0n), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 01:47 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

http://blog-imgs-35.fc2.com/h/a/r/hardasarock/20111217111759c56s.jpg

╭∩╮(︶︿︶)╭∩╮ (am0n), Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:50 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNFLb-DULk0

Friends of Mr Caeiro (NickB), Thursday, 19 April 2012 21:59 (thirteen years ago)

oh also

An historical curio for fans... parts of which became the song 'Cenotaph' from the album 'Deceit' (1981).

this heat- Victory
Live at Screen on the Green, London, Jan 26th 1979

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK4OA8eFdCw

╭∩╮(︶︿︶)╭∩╮ (am0n), Thursday, 19 April 2012 22:12 (thirteen years ago)

ten years pass...

Lifetones live shows incoming!!!

https://www.instagram.com/p/Co7h1qPoJiA/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Tuesday, 21 February 2023 16:38 (three years ago)

woah! i never expected that in a million years.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 21 February 2023 17:42 (three years ago)

two months pass...

Not really got into them properly before. The Peel Sessions are hitting the spot.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 12 May 2023 09:18 (two years ago)

four months pass...

https://abstract-concrete.bandcamp.com/album/abstract-concrete-2


Abstract Concrete is another big step for UK underground heavyweight Charles Hayward (This Heat, Camberwell Now), joined by some of the most exciting and forward-thinking young London players from a diversity of European underground and experimental scenes.

Bringing music which spans a wide emotional landscape focussed on connection and communication using a genre fluid sound world of song, groove and fire with all the lyrical intensity the world demands right now.
credits
releases November 17, 2023

Charles Hayward/Voice & Drums,
Agathe Max/Viola,
Roberto Sassi/Guitar,
Yoni Silver/Keyboard, Bass Clarinet, Clarinet
Otto Willberg/Bass Guitar & Double Bass

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 14 September 2023 19:08 (two years ago)

Out of Cold Storage was pretty good.
The first 2 lps are great

Camberwell Now were also pretty interesting. As were Quiet Sun.
So yeah the band that developed out of them and the one they developed out of too.

24 Track Loop is kin prescient like.

Stevo, Thursday, 14 September 2023 19:45 (two years ago)

four months pass...

This Abstract Concrete album is really great. Crunchy percussion and vox by Mr Hayward, fab, guitar and viola. This Heat fans should not sleep on this.

lord of the rongs (anagram), Sunday, 4 February 2024 12:22 (two years ago)

thanks for the rec, will have to check it out!

Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 4 February 2024 14:57 (two years ago)

two weeks pass...

Charles Hayward starts a three day residency at Cafe Oto tonight. Anyone going?

Bellend Sebastian (S-), Thursday, 22 February 2024 14:51 (two years ago)


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