Minimal house bobbins 2006

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A thread too far?

adamrl (nordicskilla), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:16 (twenty years ago)

It probably seems foolish to start a 2006 thread with something from 2003, but I have finally go to hear the Narod Niki thing from Mutek and I love it! Any info, opinions, etc.?

adamrl (nordicskilla), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:17 (twenty years ago)

http://www.monolake.de/images/NNVBbig2.jpg

adamrl (nordicskilla), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:18 (twenty years ago)

Villalobos looks like he's having technical difficulties in those pics.

Jena (JenaP), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:20 (twenty years ago)

Is that Monolake in the top picture, to his left?

adamrl (nordicskilla), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:21 (twenty years ago)

those photos don't look like the mutek show. i think there was also a narod niki one-off in berlin (or maybe somewhere else in germany??), maybe that's where those are from. the mutek show was a lot smaller and smokier. it was great fun too! i had to drive about 16 hours the following day which was ummm interesting.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:33 (twenty years ago)

yes, that's monolake.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:38 (twenty years ago)

If anyone needs new mixes, this site has live and radio mixes from Michael Mayer, Herbert, Mathew Jonson, Wighnomy Bros, Trentemoller, Joris Voorn, Dahlbeck, etc...

http://linkset.blogspot.com/

paulhw (paulhw), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:44 (twenty years ago)

thanks!

adamrl (nordicskilla), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:47 (twenty years ago)

this page is taking a while to load!

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:50 (twenty years ago)

hose photos don't look like the mutek show.

You're right -- in Montreal, they were arranged in a semicircle on a stage, not in a line on a scaffold.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 14 January 2006 22:55 (twenty years ago)

hurrah, this is a great idea for a thread!

It probably seems foolish to start a 2006 thread with something from 2003, but I have finally go to hear the Narod Niki thing from Mutek and I love it! Any info, opinions, etc.?

narod niki = ?

luciano + villalobos live in october 05 is still my key set at the moment (can't remember the date/venue, will check my ipod later).

toby (tsg20), Sunday, 15 January 2006 01:23 (twenty years ago)

Narod Niki - http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1192199

I hadn't heard of this before! Now I really want to go to Mutek :/

fandango (fandango), Sunday, 15 January 2006 01:42 (twenty years ago)

let's talk about dapayk.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 15 January 2006 02:03 (twenty years ago)

Well, having people perform on a scaffolding is pretty cool too.

Tokyo Ghost Stories (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Sunday, 15 January 2006 07:21 (twenty years ago)

The scaffold is awesome too, don't get me wrong. Like tricky said, it was a smaller venue and the second floor surrounded the perimeter of the club on all four sides (including behind the stage). The anticipation was huge, and over an hour before NN played, people were starting to pack in against (and even lean over) the railing to get the best possible view. The mood and mayhem in the room, together with the near-claustrophic density of people closing in on all four sides from the second floor, made the whole thing feel like those AC/DC videos where the fans were watching the band from multi-level scaffolds.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 15 January 2006 07:41 (twenty years ago)

yeah, that's the narod niki show from the volksbuhne in berlin, september 2004. it was pretty fucking stellar.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Sunday, 15 January 2006 15:43 (twenty years ago)

something from 2003:
Dapayk & Padberg: Deiner Liebe Tisch (Wighnomy-Brothers-Meiner-Einer-Deiner-RMX)
Got it now, recommended

nocure, Sunday, 15 January 2006 16:43 (twenty years ago)

did you hear narod niki on mp3, adam? i see one can stream it at the mutek website.

toby (tsg20), Sunday, 15 January 2006 17:35 (twenty years ago)

yes i did!

adamrl (nordicskilla), Sunday, 15 January 2006 19:29 (twenty years ago)

maybe next mutek will look like this :

http://www.markglinsky.com/elp3.jpg

minimal prog, here we go, Sunday, 15 January 2006 23:05 (twenty years ago)

and did you find it on slsk? or somewhere else? i'm having no luck!

toby (tsg20), Sunday, 15 January 2006 23:34 (twenty years ago)

on slsk - seek me out! ;)

adamrl (nordicskilla), Sunday, 15 January 2006 23:38 (twenty years ago)

great minimal labels overlooked because of their boring names, part I: Einmaleins Musik! flawless roster so far, especially the Pan Pot releases suggest a less clunky Eulberg

Yawn (Wintermute), Sunday, 22 January 2006 13:32 (twenty years ago)

the next sci fi hi fi mix is being done by none other than luciano!

http://www.somarecords.com/news/#230

breakfast pants (disco stu), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 03:34 (twenty years ago)

So.

So far this year, the "big" minimal tune seems to be Paul Woolford's 'Erotic Discourse, I think I've heard everyone I've seen since November last year play it (I know, I know, technically 2005 bobbins but it was only a 500 copy one-sided release then)

I like it, but seeing as it is simply a basic rhythm track with a one-note riff being fucked about with by delay effects there only seems to be about 20 seconds which is really incredible and the rest seems to follow the law of diminishing returns.

What does eeryone else think?

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 10:17 (twenty years ago)

I think it's crap UK house!

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 10:20 (twenty years ago)

Die 20/20 Vision die! the only reason for its contiuned existence is riding the coat-tails of the success of better artists

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 10:21 (twenty years ago)

actually that's probably a bit harsh, they have some good 12s, but they are a bit surpassed.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 10:29 (twenty years ago)

i assumed everyone liked and played out that erotic discourse tune because it's a good mixing tune, like brutalga square (which also doesn't really stand up on it's own imo, but can transform other tunes amazingly).

nebbesh (nebbesh), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 12:22 (twenty years ago)

Erotic Discourse is so strange. There's absolutely nothing there, no hook, no bassline, no payoff or anything; in fact, it makes me feel quite ill. But I really like it! Is it definitely Paul Woolford?

ewmy (ewmy), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 12:41 (twenty years ago)

brutalga square stand s up tall and proud on its own in its entirety, for this listener.

ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 13:01 (twenty years ago)

Is it definitely Paul Woolford?

Yep! see:

http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.asp?ID=7499

And I'm with Ambrose, in fact Brutalga Square works best on its own IMO.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 16:57 (twenty years ago)

nobody makes a good mixing tune that vulgar

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:50 (twenty years ago)

I'm glad this thread is doing well

phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:51 (twenty years ago)

is that jess second from left in the top picture????

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:54 (twenty years ago)

JESS IS MONOLAKE!

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:55 (twenty years ago)

it's monolake!

phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 21:56 (twenty years ago)

soon there will be a release on scsi-9's label 'pro-tez records' which is AMAZING

scsi-9 said it's "minimal POP" though, not house.

beautiful music

nique (nique), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:05 (twenty years ago)

Paulo Alante-Suave Delirio

This is my favourite minimal bobbin so far this year, tho I guess it's not minimal in the Hawtin way, what a nice groove it is though.

http://c.decks.de/sound/sound_v/va_freshep_acx-hb+3.mp3

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:07 (twenty years ago)

Oooh! "Minimal pop" sounds like "Mini" and "Autumn Love" (actually I'm imagining stuff like the Antonelli Electr. remix of a Quarks track with a German name too long for me to remember).

x-post.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:10 (twenty years ago)

they'll kill me if i post tracks from pro-tez003, but i think some small snippets won't do much harm, will they?
i can't wait till ppl will hear them

nique (nique), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 22:23 (twenty years ago)

"Walk to the Water" by Fairmont (aka Jake Fairley) is on the B-side of his new single "I Want to See the Sun Come Up" (Echocord). It starts with BoC chords and then after a minute some Chicago bass comes in and beautiful melancholy synths, a great track.

Another current minimal favourite is Dub Kult's "Twelve" (Traum), with ghostly vocal snippets and a nagging synth bassline. Proper spooky, love it.

JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 23:38 (twenty years ago)

I'm feeling Lopazz - Lasergun at the moment, good dark pulsating stuff.

Mil (Mil), Thursday, 26 January 2006 02:25 (twenty years ago)

monolake never sported a beard this swank

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 January 2006 02:31 (twenty years ago)

i'll admit i'd like to be that close to sweet ricardo tho

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 January 2006 02:32 (twenty years ago)

i'm with you on that one fatboy

Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 26 January 2006 02:34 (twenty years ago)

"the next sci fi hi fi mix is being done by none other than luciano! "

Tracklist!?

nocure, Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:00 (twenty years ago)

some link i got thru kelkoo says the luciano mix is out 27th march but theres no tracklisting there yet.

ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 26 January 2006 16:45 (twenty years ago)

about a year and a half ago luciano was working on a fucking fantastic mix for mental groove, don't know why it's never seen the light of day... it was very lush and IDM, very much a "roots of my style" kinda thing. can't wait to hear the sci.fi.hi.fi.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:38 (twenty years ago)

Parting ways with MG was ...not ...very ...smoothly executed is all.

Time, the Healer (blunt), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:07 (twenty years ago)

new cabanne on minibar is pretty sick. from december 05 but i still can't get enough of cassy "night to remember" on perlon. anyone still feeling the dandy jack album?

rio natsume, Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:13 (twenty years ago)

i am just discovering the dandy jack album. i love it. i think it's my new standard for when people come over.

lf (lfam), Thursday, 26 January 2006 19:18 (twenty years ago)

aha. this i did not know.
i'm still totally feeling the dandy jack...

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:20 (twenty years ago)

Yet another Geneva resident promised to Berlin appreciation btw

Stepping Stone City (blunt), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:43 (twenty years ago)

since 2005 minimal bobbins are up for minor discussion, i'd like to raise two joints for the awesome full length by Pier Bucci - Familia on Crosstown Rebels. Did he just take Luciano's game and improve it? This album has repeated 3 times in a row and i'm loving it more now than i did when it started.

biz, Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:53 (twenty years ago)

that sounds like something I need to hear.

phantasy bear (nordicskilla), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:54 (twenty years ago)

so here is the little .rar with 2-minute snippets of the new pro-tez records by mujuice - monochrome ep (i think it'll be called like this)

there's only 3 tracks of 4, and they might be unmastered yet, cuz i have them from quite a time ago...

and the files are in .OGG (i couldn't find the original waves on my hard disks).

http://s57.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2S0QLMME5QVM33DIAZFLWBSQJZ

and also, you might want to listen to this:

http://www.fragmentmusic.net/release_com.php?rel_id=8

this is an mp3 release of the same artist, mujuice.
wonderful music.

nique (nique), Friday, 27 January 2006 12:16 (twenty years ago)

yeah the pier bucci is brilliant. it needs to be played very loud.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 27 January 2006 13:48 (twenty years ago)

Hahahaha, has anyone heard Fusiphorm 'Am I'?

Is a pretty 'standard' minimal track up until the 4 minute mark, when a vocal 'hicupping' sample starts coming in, takes over the focus of the song, and then just keeps going higher in pitch for a couple of minutes until it can go no further, drops down again and then does some arpeggios for a couple of minutes, before then repeating the same arpeggio for the remaing 3 minutes of the song.

It sounds better than it looks! It has a really incredible hypnotic quality, kind of like '0 Superman' for dancing to.


Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 20:35 (twenty years ago)

If you want to listen, here it is:
http://s64.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3B2RE19M3FDVB14M9KQLUX9GJ7

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:11 (twenty years ago)

Liking this thread.

Brutalga square is a brilliant tune. I was listening to Kosi comes around for the first time in quite a while today. Great album. Still haven't managed to pick up "Ach so", that will probably be my major bit of minimal appreciation for February.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Wednesday, 1 February 2006 22:35 (twenty years ago)

The B-side's of Fusiphorm are also very good, particularily the remix by Someone Else which is very dubby tech-house with generous amounts of sub-bass.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 2 February 2006 11:07 (twenty years ago)

anyone out there able to hook me up with the Sleeparchive "Elephant Island" ep?

Crocus Behemoth (modern dance), Thursday, 2 February 2006 19:07 (twenty years ago)

many thanks to nique for the 2-minute snippets of the mujuice record, this has got to be my most anticipated release now!the ep on fragment is brilliant as well but these samples are just amazing!

any info on the releases date yet? the record is listed as a forthcoming release on the kompakt distro pdf, no specific date mentioned though..

i'm so jealous of you nique having the full tracks!!!
cheers again..

iflo, Thursday, 2 February 2006 19:33 (twenty years ago)

rodolpho webha-flap in my pie hole (dave shokh remix)

this is an amazing record you all need. definitely my favourite border community soundalike.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 2 February 2006 21:13 (twenty years ago)

iflo, mujuice release date is february 27th.
i'm happy you liked it. anyway, everyone's gonna like it ::)

nique (nique), Friday, 3 February 2006 00:04 (twenty years ago)

Also thanks to Chewshabadoo for Fusiphorm's 'Am I' which is fantastic. You can find other (guilt) free creative commons mp3s by him and lots of other interesting artists on the Unfoundsound records website...

Telegram Sam, Friday, 3 February 2006 08:32 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, its a good (and free too) label!

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 3 February 2006 08:41 (twenty years ago)

Having only just heard it, I love Erotic Discourse. I wish every dance record was that good!

Telegram Sam, Tuesday, 7 February 2006 06:23 (twenty years ago)

sounds like a dehumanized version of Panash: Jack 2 Jack (Jasper Dahlback mix). i like it too, obviously!

Yawn (Wintermute), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 13:54 (twenty years ago)

Heard Lawrence & Carsten Jost play on saturday. Sooooo good.

anyways here we go for one of those impossible track ID's:

oldschoolish Chicago/Millsian hammering piano with a slow rolling beat and added Beach Boysish sleigh bells. No really. I need this. :)

Omar (Omar), Monday, 13 February 2006 09:06 (nineteen years ago)

Sci-Fi Hi-Fi Volume 2 mixed by Luciano:

1. D.Uni:son - Orange
2. Cabanne - Boulinge
3. John Thomas - Basilic
4. Tadeo - Bateria Lup!
5. Samim & Michal - Exercise EP
6. Framework
7. Lineas De Nazca - Eje Central
8. Serafin - Starship Discotheque
9. P. Specke & D. Maxim - Rio Besenreiser
10. Matt John - The Rising Scope
11. Butane - Next
12. Solieb - Love Song
13. Donnacha Costello - Ok, That's Great, Start Over
14. Phage & Daniel Dreier - Chick's 'n Chips
15. Adam Beyer - Walking Contradiction (Part 1)
16. 2000 And One - Sunday
17. Alejandro Vivcanco - Las Velas No Arden
18. Ricardo Villalobos - Ichso
19. Thomas Melchior/Luciano - Father
20. Huggotron by J.Dahlback - glasshouse
21. Kuniyuki - Earth Beats (Percussion Dub)

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 20 February 2006 02:48 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't heard any of those tracks except "Ichso"!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 20 February 2006 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

The Melichior/Luciano is going to be released soon on Cadenza. I know about a little under half the tracks, but the rest are totally obscure (and are on even obscurer labels.)

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 20 February 2006 03:51 (nineteen years ago)

Mikkel Metal. Thoughts?

I really love this new EP.

Cameron Octigan (Cameron Octigan), Monday, 20 February 2006 04:36 (nineteen years ago)

What's new?

Under the paving stones, Paul Scholes (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 February 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Ryan Crosson - Artists Have Bad Hair Cuts @ telegraph

(a month old but still!!!)

nique (nique), Thursday, 23 February 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

the mikkel metal and scsi-9 'on the edge' are kompakt near top form i reckon. also my best friend doesn't get enough props as a label (tho maybe that's electro-bobbins). new daso and break 3000 'lights' are nice.

michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 23 February 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

the melchior/luciano is absolutely fucking gorgeous, by the way. but then i supposed you would have guessed i'd think that.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

I will probably think that too. I look forward to thinking it!

Under the paving stones, Paul Scholes (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

has anyone heard Ruede Hagelstein's Unleashed mix cd? i havent, but since i disliked most of the juno samples i assume ilm will love it ;>

Yawn (Wintermute), Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

yes, yaaaawwwn, kinda nice
ha ha

nique (nique), Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Philip, is the Melchior/Luciano out yet?

Jena (JenaP), Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think so... as i'm writing the promo text for it as we speak. (full disclosure etc etc.) it's listed up at wordandsound but they don't have samples for it yet - it looks like cadenza 9 is just coming out now so it'll probably be a couple of weeks.

after that is cadenza 5.5, a remix by clara ghavami (who?) of one of the NSI (non standard institut, aka pink elln & max loderbauer) tracks from cadenza 5, also pretty great on first listen.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

Luciano on Proton Radio Track ID

?

Jena (JenaP), Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

The new EP from Paradroid called "Borelian Empire" is awesome. Minimal house at its quirkiest.

Trace, Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone else hear Fripp guitars on track #1 of the Achso EP?

harshaw (jube), Thursday, 23 February 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of wordandsound, I just noticed that they launched their download service: http://playwordandsound.net.

Melchior + Luciano sounds like chocolate meets peanut butter.

jeffery (jeffery), Thursday, 23 February 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Michael back on ILM?

Can you send on a mail or text cos I am not sure I have the correct address/number.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 23 February 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

haha, i'm dipping my toe. i don't have the right details for you either, if you email to the address above i'll be in touch later.

michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 24 February 2006 06:00 (nineteen years ago)

after that is cadenza 5.5, a remix by clara ghavami (who?) of one of the NSI (non standard institut, aka pink elln & max loderbauer) tracks from cadenza 5, also pretty great on first listen.

Is this the Luciano edit OF "Clara Ghavami"?

The three tracks on the NSI 12" were some of my favorite things about last year.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Friday, 24 February 2006 07:17 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone know when the dominik eulberg/gabriel ananda tune is out???

i think i heard it and it was amazing.

ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 24 February 2006 09:48 (nineteen years ago)

ah is that the track title? i'm a font of non-information today, not having the 12" with me. (guess i should have looked at ye olde discogs...) it certainly sounds lucianesco.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 24 February 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

being way behind the times, i've somehow only just listened to the b-side of the salif keita remix ep. i presume this has been discussed loads in the past? i'm completely blown away by it!

toby (tsg20), Saturday, 25 February 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

seriously, what else sounds like this? it's amazingly maximalist (perhaps i've just been listening to too much minimal house - i think this might be the first non-sleeparchive track i've heard all week - but it sounds like there's everything in there!).

toby (tsg20), Saturday, 25 February 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

just wanted to mention My MY "serpentine EP" Playhouse 117. B1 is a gem.
Also, Mobilee, Vakant, yes!

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 2 March 2006 03:40 (nineteen years ago)

fuck yeah, "serpentine" is mindblowing.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 2 March 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

I almost didnt want to mention it on the off chance that everyone else had slept on it but I dont think that happens to anything on playhouse, and, in any case, I'm not an indie rocker.

Actually, this is one of those records that makes me want to revive the old Northern Soul-style flyers where the best or rarest/most underground records he.she owns are listed underneath. I think it might be one of top 5 12"s for the year... everyone does their lists too early.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

I just saw yr new blog entry Phil and , if you didn't know, Sender is listing on their website a Misc. remix EP with Fruede Am Tanzen/Vakant superstars Hemmann & Kaden on one side and Mobilee/Einmaleins rockers Pan-Pot on the flip. You can listen to the full tracks on the Sender site as always... its #57.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Thursday, 2 March 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't know! that sounds hella promising.

also on the klang tip (though i think it's actually ongaku) is that red one-sided 12" i blogged about. i don't remember the artists behind it because my housemate took my copy to donosti and didn't come home in time for me to get it back before i left for vacation. (javier, punch omar for me! and when you see mario, punch him too, for corrupting omar.) not really minimal house bobbins - i mean, in some ways its standard fare retro acid bobbins, but so well done, really captures the "jam" feel of good acid. house, i mean. i've never taken acid but i don't imagine jam would feel very good at all under its influence... too sticky.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 2 March 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

Patrick Chadronnet - Eve by Day. This is technically 2005 bobbins but I only started hearing it out in 2006. Did I miss the boat? Now it seems to be being hammered by everyone. First time I heard it I thought it was the new James Holden, it's that good.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Sunday, 12 March 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

I am surprised it took so long for it to catch on. I think we even discussed it here on the 05 thread! The b-sides to the Chardronnet single are crap though.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 13 March 2006 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

I'm really feeling Henrik Schwarz / Âme / Dixon: "Where We At". The tunes is pretty straightforward and uses some of the same tricks as "Rej", but what a groove! I played this for a crowd on Saturday and it was *electric*.

jeffery (jeffery), Monday, 13 March 2006 06:16 (nineteen years ago)

the TUNE, not the tunes

jeffery (jeffery), Monday, 13 March 2006 06:17 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone else heard Minilogue - The Girl from Botany Bay?

More of that progressive/minimal crossover stuff. VERY Holden/Nathan Fake with a hint of Ulrich Schnauss/M83. Good stuff.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Sunday, 19 March 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone else heard Minilogue - The Girl from Botany Bay?

Grrr...not yet. Sounds great of course.

what about Senor Villalobos 'Que Belle Epoque 2006'? Relatively straightforward compared to 'Ichso' etc but the bits where the "bonus level melody" (aka the bit he sampled) comes in (around the 6:10 mark and at the end) are great...

Omar (Omar), Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

'que belle eqoque 2006' is brilliant! sometimes i wish villalobos would do more straight-up techno numbers; he's so good at them.

geeta (geeta), Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

It's so...floaty? I imagine this sounds great around 3 a:m lost in dry ice with planet-sized pupils (in another words it makes me feel nostalgic ;)

Omar (Omar), Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

'epoque' i mean, not eqoque! villalobos makes me lose my mind.

geeta (geeta), Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

i can't wait to hear all these amazing tunes i've heard over the past few months on a massive sound system in a smoky, cavernous berlin club at 6 a.m., as the raw early light of morning starts glittering through the windows. i really need to go back there soon.

'berlin...it's not a place...it's a state of mind'

geeta (geeta), Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

can someone please remind me what the names of some of the minimal rooms on slsk are? my computer crashed a couple of weeks ago and i've been trying to piece my life back together ever since.

Jena (JenaP), Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

mnml.nl?

Yawn (Wintermute), Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

thanks wm, great one. yes, the minilogue is great indeed, it's a cosmic trip!

Jena (JenaP), Sunday, 19 March 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

"Twilight" is a terrific new record by Onur Özer on Vakant, using 'scary' film music strings to great effect. I've got a few other releases by him (on Freuden-am-Tanzen and Vakant again) that are also great. Watch this man.

JoB (JoB), Sunday, 19 March 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, the "freak disco" record (i think that's the title) on freund-am-tanzen is fucking great as well...

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Monday, 20 March 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

that new minilogue is gorgeous.

jackl (jackl), Monday, 20 March 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

[klang 105]Johannes Heil - Freaks R Us. This is damn good.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Monday, 20 March 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

2006 BMX-1

rhythm & sound: smy remixes #1

a. let we go (villalobos remix)
b1. truly (vladislav delay remix)
b2. boss man (tiki’s pure blue remix)

vinyl 12", released feb 2006.

[b]!!![/b]

harshaw (jube), Monday, 20 March 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

erm, i mean: !!!

harshaw (jube), Monday, 20 March 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

Apart from the funny/spooky "Tree of Life" that J. Heil LP sounds like a bunch of old noises.

blunt (blunt), Monday, 20 March 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'm talking about the 12".

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Monday, 20 March 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

Something was off

blunt (blunt), Monday, 20 March 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

I got that R&S 12" last week. The Delay remix is incredible, But the Villalobos remix is kind of boring IMO. It starts off grooving along kind of well, and then just....dissipates for about 4 miniutes in the middle. Really steals the energy of any mix or something.

tylero (tylero), Monday, 20 March 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

and then just....dissipates for about 4 miniutes in the middle.

ha! that's my favourite part of it.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 20 March 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah well I guess I'm just too hyper or something. Or I should mix it with different stuff. I guess it could grow on me. It is called 'minimal' after all! :)

tylero (tylero), Monday, 20 March 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think i would play it out but it definitely hits the spot for listening to in the bath.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 20 March 2006 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

steals the energy

this kind of describes a lot of this stuff. though i like the way it does this. as someone who has always been on the lost/axis/mills/saunderson side of dance music, i like plip-plop for opposite reasons, but, maybe, kind of the same reasons. but the way it can often sort of swirl into nowhere, meander, lose direction, but then at the same time, its still bumbling along, and, oh, maybe it hadnt meandered after all, i cant remember, where are we again?

charltonlido (gareth), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 10:20 (nineteen years ago)

has Krak Street Boyz "The Crack Has Hit The Streets" on Tuning Spork Family Affair been given on official release yet or is it still promo? Phil? Ronan?

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

Do people say "minilogue" like "prologue" or like "vogue"?

I've been saying it like "vogue" and half-consciously assuming some sort of Kylie Minogue reference.

Anyway, great track, it's totally weepie prog house though isn't it. It's Northern Exposure all over again! Holden, what hast thou wrought?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, Tim, it totally is weepie prog house. I was hoping you'd dissect every little bit of Minilogue, though...

Is it time for us to give up on micro-goth and go for the weepie prog house as the vogue imaginary genre of choice 'round these parts?

natedey (ndeyoung), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

micro-goth and weepy prog-house are a lot closer to each other than we tend to think!

minilogue sounds pretty different from holden, though--there's something very cologne about it.

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, the beginning especially, with the syncronicity between the bass kick and the ringing...

natedey (ndeyoung), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

by the way, sorry for dropping off the face of the earth last friday night after we left the bunker show. my friend had to leave early in the morning, so we decided to pack it in...

ps. how's the producer as composer book? virgil used to be a professor of mine and gave a lecture summating that book. it ended with superpitcher as the end-all be-all. i was not exactly satisfied with that.

natedey (ndeyoung), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

not superpitcher, squarepusher. big difference. all this talk of cologne (or is it paris nowadays?)

natedey (ndeyoung), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

hey nate! yeah we were wondering where you guys went! we didn't get home until 5 AM or something like that. i was extremely hungover the next morning.

honestly i don't think the 'producer as composer' book is very good. pages and pages and pages on eno, and only two pages on the whole of hip-hop?! and so little on dub. and a desperate stab at 'electronica' in the last chapter, including a list of the chemical brothers' gear? it seemed very dated.

i think 'squarepitcher' and 'superpusher' are both better names than squarepusher!

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, the beginning especially, with the syncronicity between the bass kick and the ringing...

ha! exactly. when the beat came in i said "cologne!" it reminds me of what michael mayer said when i interviewed him, that "in cologne the bass drum always goes like this! not like this!"

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

"That's totally a Dusseldorf drum sound, right there."

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

regional drum tones are the new designer cheese

i am just reiterating the previous couple of posts in this thread.

harshaw (jube), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

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cialis, Monday, 10 April 2006 07:52 (nineteen years ago)

i got my hopes up someone had new minimal bobbins to recommend :(

the new superpitcher Speicher 35 ain't too shabby. arpeggiations! The b-side is supposedly trance but I haven't heard it yet.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Monday, 10 April 2006 07:58 (nineteen years ago)

Bah, who cares about Superpitcher, what we really want is Cialis Soft Tabs!

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Monday, 10 April 2006 08:00 (nineteen years ago)

has everyone heard the Mossa album yet??

fez, Monday, 10 April 2006 09:52 (nineteen years ago)

OMG Someone Else's "Funny Wawa"! Massive!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 10 April 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

(You can apparently sample the track here but I doubt it will sound as mind-crushing as it did on my in-store play)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 10 April 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

what are the five tracks in the '06 miminal house vein i MUST hear?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 10 April 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

My personal selection, and all actually from last year:

Gabriel Ananda - Ihre Personliche Glucksomelodie
2Raumwohnung - Meloncholish Schoen (Tobi Neumann Remix)
Le Dust Sucker - Mean Boy (Dominik Eulberg Remix)
Dub Kult - On & On (Guido Schneider's On & On Remix)
Andre Kraml - Safari (James Holden Remix)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 10 April 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

guess what im gonna say....

gabriel ananda & dominik eulberg - harzer roller

ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 10 April 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Meanwhile...

Senor Coconut - Electrolatino (R. Villalobos' 'lecktro Carino Mix)

:-0

Ridiculous (ly good)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 10 April 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

It's the "Supper's Ready" of miminal!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 10 April 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Gui Boratto-Sozinho is top of my list this year. tho perhaps it's electrohouse not plipplop

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 10 April 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Theo Parrish - Falling Up (Carl Craig remix)
Heartthrob - Baby Kate
Thomas Melchior/Luciano - Father
Jamie Jones - Amazon
Delia & Gavin - Revelee (Carl Craig remix)

rchinn (rchinn), Monday, 10 April 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Douglas Greed - Delicate (Hemmann & Kaden Remix)- Combination Records
LocoDice - Carthago - Cocoon
Gui Boratto - Sozinho - K2
Alex Under - Fortuito - Pulse 8

and .... on top of my list:

Ndru - A Pony Named Clipklop - Liebe Detail

nocure, Monday, 10 April 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

five on my list:

bodzin and huntemann - black ice
pan pot & daniel stefanik - the bells
patrick chardronnet - eve by day
georgio gigli - i can't breathe
am/pm - no matter whether

Good Dog (Good Dog), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Patrick Chardronnet - Eve by Day
Alex Under - Fortuito - Pulse 8

Are very good.

rchinn (rchinn), Monday, 10 April 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

oh my, perlon are on a roll at the moment. first joker pack 2, now superlongevity 4!

a.1 pantytec - maybe not
a.2 melchior productions ltd. - in the shadow
b.1 baby ford & zip - morning sir
b.2 luciano - blake purple frase
c.1 dandy jack and the third leg - ixchel
c.2 kalabrese - skamel
d.1 dimbiman - first laki
d.2 stefan goldmann - darkstar
e.1 cabanne - smiling papers
e.2 soul capsule - international party people
f.1 ricardo villalobos - balacharde
f.2 narcotic syntax - raptors' delight
g.1 markus nikolai - wheelsucker
g.2 matt john - landing h.1 soulphiction - her (jms dub)
h.2 horror inc. - the absent

nebbesh (nebbesh), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

!!! when will that be out??

toby (tsg20), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

mmmm! superlongevity 4 - can't wait.

someone else's 'funny wawa' really rules.

egg's 'fearless funny female' (mossa's hairless bony shemale remix) is also ruling today.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

cheers all. will be on the hunt later.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

hmm, will have to check that someone else, always thought they were a second-tier musik krause crew, nothing special. i guess they have come up with something a bit different. is it minimal goofiness like noze and bruno pronsato?

apparently superlongevity 4 drops mid-march. s'funny since time has been giving sl3 a bit of a critical reappraisal.

the plip-plop is so much FUN at the moment!

nebbesh (nebbesh), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

hmm, will have to check that someone else, always thought they were a second-tier musik krause crew, nothing special. i guess they have come up with something a bit different. is it minimal goofiness like noze and bruno pronsato?

apparently superlongevity 4 drops mid-may. s'funny since tim f has been giving sl3 a bit of a critical reappraisal.

the plip-plop is so much FUN at the moment!

nebbesh (nebbesh), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

mid-march??? 2007?

that funy wawa - any links to a longer clip than the one tim posted? i couldnt really seee what was amazing about it from that but then it was just the beginning, and by the end of the clip it just sounded like it was getting going.. this is the problem with 30s clips on t'internet - they are almost always from the beginning of a tune and more often than not it gives you little idea of what the tune is like as a whole

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

i never heard what was all that about someone else :(

Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

yall need to hear the funny wawa sample over a stereo - the kickdrum is massive! too bad i broke the audio out on my computer today :(

fez, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

i will have to hear funny wawa then before writing the guy off.

i know it's ILM heresy an it isn't just my mood: am i the only person who just cannot get into Perlon? they strike me as the Frank Zappa of minimal techno. i have always thought that humour does not belong in music and perlon stuff is all rub-you-up-the-wrong-way gimmicks and little pleasure. cred -25 points I know but it has to be said!

Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

"the Frank Zappa of minimal techno" --> this made me laugh

geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Chicken fried rice!!!

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

Senor Coconut - Electrolatino (R. Villalobos' 'lecktro Carino Mix)

Great of course, but old minimal bobbins (2002 or so?)

John Tejada - The End Of It All meanwhile is sooooo good (or should that be in electro house bobbins? Ah well it's all house :)

Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

...but i think the perlon sound is often very inviting/sexy/funky. i agree that there is a cartoony, goofy element to their music sometimes, but at their best they operate via a succession of artfully arranged, subtly suggestive moments than by slamming you over the head with their cleverness.

geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

i have always thought that humour does not belong in music

why??

stirmonster (stirmonster), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Perlon isn't always funny/goofy. If I recall Superlongevity 3 got a bit of stick when it came out for being too serious.

Markus Nikolai has a funny/goofy side but it's so marvellously secreted into his music. Back remains one of the most underrated albums of the entire German house/techno uprising era.

I can see how some Pantytec might be annoying in the wrong mood or setting, perhaps.

Re Someone Else's "Funny Wawa", yeah I think you have to hear the whole track, I'd say it falls somewhere between Dominik Eulberg and Areal (say, Metope), building from a fairly simple beginning to a crushing endless mechanical groove that you want to keep tearing chunks out of your brain forever.

Omar I wasn't sure when that Senor Cocunut remix came out, it's so dancy I had a feeling it might be old... but it's so beautiful too!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

someone else should not not NOT be written off!

as of more/less new stuff i heard:

scsi-9 - puzzle ep ist cool
and
bruno pronsato - wade in the water / the river
and
smbp - falling stars ep, b1 track very nice!


also, i listened to sleeparchive - radio transmission like ten times and finally liked it too, the longer tracks
the short ones remain too annoying for me...

nique (nique), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

"Re Someone Else's "Funny Wawa", yeah I think you have to hear the whole track, I'd say it falls somewhere between Dominik Eulberg and Areal (say, Metope), building from a fairly simple beginning to a crushing endless mechanical groove that you want to keep tearing chunks out of your brain forever."

In other words, it would fit right into the first half of Eulberg's Fleucht mix.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really like Perlon either, though I don't actively dislike it, I just only buy the odd 12, last one was Stefan Goldman I think.

Marek Hemann's "Mini 24" on Raum is very good. Also enjoying the remixes of Dash Dude "Television Saga" on Morris Audio. Argy's in particular is pretty cool.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 09:49 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, that marek hemmann 12 is awesome, superior tuningspork/pan-pot stylings. how come him & mathias kaden make much better stuff when they're on their own? maybe villalobos is championed as an auteur simply because this is how this music works. it's singular vision business.

now i'm trying to come up with good minimal collabos ('alpine rocket' excluded)

is minimal music auteur music?

nebbesh (nebbesh), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 10:05 (nineteen years ago)

good minimal collabos

'orange mistake'

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 10:11 (nineteen years ago)

stirmonster, about the funniness thing, apart from lyrics, which i don't pay much attention to, I don't think music is can be funny. in music funny = annoying.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

ok, now I'm listening to a bunch of perlon things and liking them! there's a fine line though between playful and irritating is maybe what I'm trying to say...

Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

now i'm trying to come up with good minimal collabos

"harzer roller"

ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, i guess yr right, but neither orange mistake or harzer roller are examples of each producers' (luciano & eulberg) sound/vision.

ach, i think i'm just throwing out vague theories for the sake of it.

nebbesh (nebbesh), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

ha ambrose you'll never stop with the harzer roller love!

i think 'orange mistake' sounds very much like an example of luciano's sound/vision! but i don't know, i haven't listened to it in a while.

what about the ricardo villalobos vs. jay haze collaborations - there was some good stuff there. BTW you can download the entire 'prefer summer' six-track record for free here.

also i would think that the wighnomy brothers count as a collaboration!

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

galoppierende zuversicht = another great minimal collaborative effort between two people

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

isnt just about all wighnomy production robag. i heard monkey was just there for the DJ bits.

rchinn (rchinn), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

you could be right.

ah and pantytec! minimal-maximal.

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

i know its a joke by now but i posted thast cos i geniunelly think harzer roller is one of the few collabs. ive heard that seems to bring out both producers individual styles, preserving the best elements/sonic palette of each and yet amalgamating them successfulyl to create something greater than the sum of its parts. anandas melodicism (is this a word?) combined iwth eulbergs sense of breakdown and ..............drop! combined with the rolling funk that both can bring to a tune all come out beautifully

i reckon

ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Phage and Daniel Dreier is a good minimal collaboration. Well the track on Luciano's SciFiHiFi is anyway.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

robag wruhme vs. jay haze!

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

in fact nearly all the conexterrior collabs have been good.

luciano/melchior is another.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

dj t vs. freestyle man - 'beat the street'!

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

well, it's pretty minimal but it's not plip-plop. are we talking strictly plip-plop?

the plip-plop collaboration to end all plip-plop collaborations (villalobos and luciano as sense club) is not so amazing, though.

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

also has anyone heard the newish galoppierende zuversicht releases on bruechstucke? are they any good?

BTW ambrose i just listened to 'harzer roller' again and i like it much more than i did before!

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

as far as I can see pretty much all dance music is a fairly auteurish thing, there are loads of duos but generally jobs are fairly strictly assigned therein. generally anyway.

I guess what I mean is that so often one of the duo is in what's known as the "DJ T" role!ideas but not actually producing, no disrespect to DJ T.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

also has anyone heard the newish galoppierende zuversicht releases on bruechstucke

i listened to the most recent one but didn't buy it and went for the bang goes ep on bruechstucke instead.

all this 'harzer roller' talk is inevitably leading to me listening to it again. ambrose better be right or i'll be wanting those ten minutes of my life back!

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

yeah true about DJ T. all that get physical stuff is 'collaborations' isn't it?

ha ha ronan whenever i think of DJ T now, i remember what you were telling me about how you tried addressing him as "DJ T" and he said "no, please, call me T"

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

ha i can imagine dj t in the studio calling the shots, going 'can we add more acid? i don't think there's enough acid!' and the booka guys, looking like they haven't slept in days, going 'but t, we already added the acid" and him going "more!"

i should take a listen to that bang goes ep.

i think with 'harzer roller' you have to turn it down before it gets all sugary near the end, so it's really only five minutes of your life down the tubes. or am i speaking sacrilege here? ambrose you think that's the best part, surely?

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

well, on relistening i'm afraid i shall be invoicing ambrose for those minutes. maybe if i heard it out, under the influence.....??

the b2 is the one on that bang goes.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

i am afraid i am losing my edge in the swiss minimal techno department, though. what does it say about me that my three top tunes of the year so far are carl craig remixes?!

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

*ahem*

dont shoot me but....

what i have been calling HARZER ROLLER! is in fact the b side, "Schierker Kreisel". well obviously the A side isnt the B side, but I mean the tune I am obsessed with is the B side

but that b side is (repeat all breathless hyperbole here)


the a side is nice too! but not a big club tune i guess, but lovely and woozey. i think they messed up the order of the tunes.

listenign again to the B side, *that* bassline!!!! :O
*steel drums!!!!* :O :O

*twinkly nonsense!* :O :O :O :O

*here comes the big fat skanking bassline crushing the twinkles! :O :O :O :D!

ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

haha ambrose none of us are ever trusting you in these crucial minimal-house-bobbins matters ever again!!

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha! i was going to say the b-side was much better to my ears but didn't want to rain on your parade, ambrose.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

i do like 'schierker kreisel' more than 'harzer roller' but i don't like the main melody/riff--it grates on me. the bassline is great though. the twinkly effects are nice too.

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

sorry i had a beer


im turning of the computer now and trying to sober up a bit

ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

aw ambrose we didn't mean it like that! come back all is forgiven!

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

carl craig is killing it this year, i love it that he's loving the big club bangers again.

danny invincible (michael w.), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

"bangers" may be the wrong word; when he's on his game his tunes have a kind of, um, regal quality or something.

michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

"bangers" may be the wrong word; when he's on his game his tunes have a kind of, um, regal quality or something.

danny invincible (michael w.), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

i am pathetic with this name change thing.

danny invincible (michael w.), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

I always thought Shirker Kriesel was better too! I think I wasn't sure which was which though either.

We almost made Harzer Roller a huge hit.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

geeta - what's the third Carl Craig mix you're referring to above? The Goldfrapp one? I'm jealous if you've heard it already :(

jng (jng), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

ha, yeah, sometimes when i'm listening to all this other techno stuff i think 'this is time i could be spending listening to carl craig remixes.' i'm not detroit-centric in the slightest and i'm always bigging up berlin, but that stuff just falls by the wayside when i listen to craig's recent stuff. so trance-inducing--well, not trance as in trance, but trance as in jaw-droppingly mesmerizing. plus it just sounds so good. synthy and cold and alien for sure, but warm and rich and sinuous at the same time. a really full and powerful sound.

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

I like the Carl Craig remixes alot but I do think they are totally retro for the most part, moreso than lots of other new releases. I guess for me the only impact they have is one of "Ah yes Detroit production sure is good" but I knew that already! No harm being reminded every now and again but they plough a furrow of their own.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

ronan you will change yr mind when you hear this goldfrapp mix he did. seriously it's mega.

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

are the carl craig remixes retro? i guess they don't have all the latest production touches although the goldfrapp one does have a few computer fx going on that i've never heard mr. craig use before. and geeta otm about the trance inducing.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

haha i just gotr burned by stirs delia and gavin remix scam
lol those wacky YSI days

i was tryign to see what the fuss about Carl Craig is. incredibly ive only heard the theo parrish remix and er.... that "programmed" as innerzone orchestra or at least those are the only two tunes i could identify of his.

i sort of used to like "programmed" but that was when i was totally on a Gilles tip so the piano thing slayed me

ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

there's just a feel to them that you don't hear in house and techno anymore, probably mainly the US thing, I think. Also their house/techno middleground is alot different from the sort that is kind of dominating at the moment.

for instance I love the "Falling Up" one but can't ever imagine playing it in the context of what I play.

I dunno, it just screams Detroit Techno to me or, US producer even. It's not that that makes me not like it, I just don't like the idea of mixing the two, maybe that makes me conservative but I think unless you're going to be radical and really mix genres then mixing house and techno aesthetics like Craigs and whatever Euro producer leaves you at risk of just being the sort of DJ who plays anything good that's house or techno and covers too many bases within the same genre.

Or to maybe be a bit more succinct, I guess I think it's better to be ruthlessly single minded when DJing, in theory anyway!

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

or even more succinct, those remixes SMELL OF HOUSE MUSIC!

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

but i think his new mixes really fit with the minimal stuff. i'm trying to think whether he's been influenced by all the european stuff and then i remember his "domina" remix. for a time it seemed like he'd turned his back, to an extent, on the really clubby tracks but i'm just wondering if he's been inspired by recent-ish developments.

michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

i don't think they sound that retro. they do have a certain timeless quality to them, like they're meant to be colossal and classic. and they are a bit serious.

but it depends what you're in the mood for, you know? i mean you're not always in the mood for an intensely concentrated and all-encompassing listening experience where you feel like you're merging with sine waves or whatever. sometimes you want something that's forward-thinking but also frisky (like perlon) or anthemic and fun (like a lot of electro-house) or loose and groovy like lindstrom. otherwise i would probably be listening to nothing in dance music today except those recent carl craig remixes.

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Also their house/techno middleground is alot different from the sort that is kind of dominating at the moment.

i suppose it depends on what YOU want the dominating thing to be.

i've heard all sorts of djs play 'falling up' in all sorts of sets and it always seems to work. i have always thought if you thought a record was amazing and you are a dj, you will find a way to play it without really worrying if it fits in with the sound de jour. as a wise man once told me - 'a good record is a good record'.

x post

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

xpost @ ronan

I really don't think it really makes sense to think about Carl Craig as mixing house and techno. His aesthetic is too strongly rooted in the time before people thought of house and techno as separate entities.

jng (jng), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

falling up is plodding! come on.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

i've heard 'falling up' in all kinds of dj sets as well and it has always worked every time i have heard it. i guess it depends on how the dj plays the record--when he/she plays it, how long it's played, what it gets mixed with, and all that. i've heard it used as a sort of peak track, and as a track played near the very beginning of a set. it is very dark and a bit pensive and doesn't always work if yr in the mood for upbeat hands-in-the-air party music.

ronan OTM in that the stuff just does *sound* different from a lot of the euro house/techno stuff he plays. i mean if you are playing an entire set of mainly current electro-house and you throw in a detroit track i can see how it could sound wildly different from everything else. not that different is a bad thing, but i see what he means.

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

The recent Craig mixes are no more retro-sounding than "Goettsching" -- and at least half of why I love "Goettsching" is its resemblance to a slightly weird imaginary crisscrossing of '94-'97 Kirk Degiorgio and Kenny Larkin. It's called "Goettsching," after all. It could even pass for a cleaned-up, spaced-out remix of Craig's "Chicken Noodle Soup."

Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

*not getting it* I mean compare Falling Up to Tokyo Blade Dancer (dixon edit) - then you're at a fun party

Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

falling up is plodding! come on.

not if it's pitched up. anyway, a bit of plod over the course of a night is a good thing imo.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

xpost i think a "cleaned-up, spaced-out" 'chicken noodle soup' is what i've been searching for all my life. oh for the ysi thread...

danny invincible (michael w.), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not a dj--i just like to dance and listen to records--but for me when a dj plays a dark, heavy record or some radical departure from the way the set is going, it makes the lighter, more upbeat parts of the set seem brighter and more uplifting in comparison. but i like contrasts and unexpected stylistic shifts in my dj sets these days; i find the tension interesting. i think this is partly because i'm usually sober when i go out and see music. i didn't use to be! i can still lose myself in a seamless 7-hour minimal techno set if i'm in the right mood, but it takes more conscious effort on my part if i'm not fucked up.

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

I think the most sttunning minimal housy release is going to be
"A love Moderne" by Unai..out in 2 weeks @ Force tracks. I-c-a-n-t-w-a-i-t
and of course new Uusitalo.. but unfortunaltely that isn't a big news anymore..(!)
YUM

Chocolate (chocolate), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

im curious as to what records you all are playing out there as your most dramatic (happy/sad/whatever) moments in your sets... most of the stuff i have gotten lately has been either minimal/percussive/"keta", or peaktime/funkyminimal, but i need more drama... any labels i might be missing? i know i have heard most of the stuff from most of the labels we generally discuss...

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

Re the Ananda/Eulberg collab-o, I really like "Shirker Kriesel" as well, but it's odd how it sort of drops the ball in the last few minutes.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone know if Luomo plays Uuisitalo stuff when he plays live as Luomo?

Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 13 April 2006 07:00 (nineteen years ago)

yeh i think the end of "Shirker Kriesel" is totally just there to be mixed out. like the end of the tejada mix of oliver hacke, i find it really difficult to mix out from too.
by contrast the sugary end of "harzer roller" at the end keeps it going till the end! this works better as a complete tune.

i keep on reading this and thinking "gosh i wish i could live this lifestyle and go out and hear minimal stuff often enough to analyse dj sets" but then i realsied im seeing jeff samuel, matt john, and all of m_nus this weekend! yay!

ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 13 April 2006 08:38 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno, I actually like Carl Craig alot and have for some time, and like alot of Detroit Techno, I just can't disassociate his remixes from awful soul boys who buy no European records....maybe that's not his fault but I do think the connection is there sonically a little too.

I guess Ame are on a very strong CC tip aswell and I do like them alot and buy pretty much all their stuff (though again don't necessarily play it apart from on the radio).

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 13 April 2006 10:43 (nineteen years ago)

Like, people going crazy over the "Falling Up" remix who haven't got excited about a record since say, "Bar A Thym" last year and won't again until somebody else from 15 years ago makes a good record in the autumn.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 13 April 2006 10:44 (nineteen years ago)

i know exactly what you are saying ronan. glasgow is full of the types you mention that sneer at anything that wasn't recorded in the holy trinity of chicago, new york or detroit (except for perhaps the odd ame, dixon etc. record, although they will be a bit wary even about them as they are not sure if they have enough of a heritage). it has driven me nuts for years!

stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 13 April 2006 11:19 (nineteen years ago)

yes they are only superceded by the technoheadz!

ps might see you this weekend if you're in town....can send a mail..

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 13 April 2006 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

in a certain tokyo record emporium well known for its US-centricism (they have both a "detroit" and a "detroit-ish" section wtf) I've noticed the European section slooowly getting bigger and the American section sloowly shrinking over the last year.

I was suprised when I went to hardwax in berlin the techno section was 50/50 split between Euro and American labels.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 13 April 2006 11:36 (nineteen years ago)

Like, people going crazy over the "Falling Up" remix who haven't got excited about a record since say, "Bar A Thym" last year and won't again until somebody else from 15 years ago makes a good record in the autumn.

-- Ronan

OTMFM x 10

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 13 April 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

i have never heard bar a thym

charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:10 (nineteen years ago)

it's nice! kinda shuffly, forward-motion house + loads of cowbell.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:15 (nineteen years ago)

i...dont think fallin up is that great. sure, its ok, but, ack, i dunno. carl craig never made enough records with titles including "work that..." or "bang the.." for me. and i think thats kind of essential

048 (gareth), Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

*quietly examines thread title, and places robert armani vinyl back on the shelf*

048 (gareth), Thursday, 13 April 2006 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

yeah bar-a-thym is brilliant. I don't think "048" would like it though!

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

I picked up that Ame/Dixon/Schwarz/Carter record yesterday and it is kind of Craig-ish, with that high-pitched noise that runs through it. I like Version 3 where you can hear a little more of the Henrik Schwarz in it.

Renard (Renard), Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

in a certain tokyo record emporium well known for its US-centricism (they have both a "detroit" and a "detroit-ish" section wtf) I've noticed the European section slooowly getting bigger and the American section sloowly shrinking over the last year.

I was suprised when I went to hardwax in berlin the techno section was 50/50 split between Euro and American labels.

-- Good Dog (methylated-spiri...), April 13th, 2006.

It's funny you say this Good Dog. Cause I'm in (an admittedly not-dance-centric area of) America (North Carolina) and about the only dance/techno/house stuff I see anymore is from Europe. And maybe it's too much ILM reading, but I don't even know of too much coming from America that I'd like to buy. I mean yes there's CC, Theo P, I love Bar-A-Thym, and I really liked most all of the Detroit Beatdown release (on a Japanese label, though) but I wouldn't even know of any "new" American releases or artists to be following. In fact, I'd take suggestions, at the risk of being an "awful soul boys who buy(s) no European records":), but that's just not true.

matt2 (matt2), Thursday, 13 April 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

one of us - one of us - ummm.. maybe try some Aaron Carl

blunt (blunt), Thursday, 13 April 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of Carl Craig again, the new Steadycam on K2 has got a total Carl Craig feel about it, that raw space madness thing going on, and somewhere in the distance a kind of high pitched US house scream, plus a weird Morodery bridge.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 13 April 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

Where does John Tejada fit in all this? More electro-houseish?

I know that here (Seattle) the locals who have any cachet-Pronsato, a former local, and Jerry Abstract-are on Euro labels or have Euro distribution.

jergins (jergins), Thursday, 13 April 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't electrohouse mostly UK stuff?

/ignorant

Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 13 April 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

no what i mean is isn't "electrohouse" a UK designation for stuff which is called something else in other parts of the world? if you get my drift.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 13 April 2006 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

no definitely not.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 13 April 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

Ronan, would you say Tejada makes electrohouse?

Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 13 April 2006 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

Tejada is kind of a weird one. I'd still call him tech-house but that's cos I don't think he's actually doing anything new, I think he's got bigger by being slightly similar to other people who are.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 13 April 2006 23:44 (nineteen years ago)

i've gotta figure this out cuz i never know which thread to post in

Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 13 April 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

i'm staying out of this. ps ronan did you see my new anorak?

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

fabric 29: terry francis + nathan coles!!

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

fabric 30: tiefschwarz!!

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

both will be better than that audion garbage!!

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

Can we have a third opinion on the audion mix cos I've seen it relatively cheap and so far we've got one for and one against.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 14 April 2006 02:47 (nineteen years ago)

well I say it's ABSOLUTE PANTS

the BARON of TECHNO, Friday, 14 April 2006 03:10 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha!

yeah i'm not so big into audion either. actually mr. dear's music in general i just find to be too dry and boring.

geeta, Friday, 14 April 2006 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

though i just checked out the tracklisting for his fabric mix and it looks pretty good. i haven't heard it. is ame - "rej" the galvanizing track of the past six months that gets included on everybody's mix? kind of like "safari" was, or "dinamo"?

geeta, Friday, 14 April 2006 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

personally i feel that mr dear's mix album fails to evade the tricky song-versus-track binary. as an artist i try to play around with both notions, so that the "song" remains as a corporeal latticework, holding everything together with personable charisma, while the "track" elements (riffs, beats, noisy eruptions) are marshalled into elaborately staged configurations, sometimes mimicking verse-chorus structures, and sometimes lavishly unveiled in epic movements

ain't armand, Friday, 14 April 2006 03:22 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha!!

also ronan i disagree with you on tejada! i think he's more innovative than a lot of other producers out there. i can see what you mean about him sounding similar to a lot of other people sometimes, but his best tracks sound like no one else. he has a very distinctive sound that i think navigates the tech-house/electro-house divide really well.

geeta, Friday, 14 April 2006 03:27 (nineteen years ago)

I BURNED MY THIGHS ON A HOT PRETZEL! THE KIDS IN THE PARK THINK I'M A WEIRDO!

BUY MY SKELETON BLEACH MIX CD! SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PR, Friday, 14 April 2006 03:45 (nineteen years ago)

:-( Armand I have defended you in the past and now you mock me.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 14 April 2006 05:37 (nineteen years ago)

Geeta "Rej" is on a lot of mixes yeah but it's more like deep discoid tech-house than a minimal anthem track like "Dinamo" or "Safari". It's like Ian Pooley if Ian Pooley was actually good these days.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 14 April 2006 05:39 (nineteen years ago)

Also Geeta you do like "Dog Days" though right?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 14 April 2006 05:41 (nineteen years ago)

It's too bad 'Rej' is on every mix now, I'm finally getting tired of it (Holden's Safari rmx somehow still sounds fresh every time I hear it :).

Tim, 'Rej' always reminds me of Black Dog somehow.

Omar (Omar), Friday, 14 April 2006 08:53 (nineteen years ago)

yeah bar-a-thym is brilliant. I don't think "048" would like it though!

-- Ronan (ronan.fitzgerald6NOSPA...), April 13th, 200

number 48 loves it, i am less sure about number 6, but he doesn't know why he's here

is shane berry's fillertet on here, i haven't really heard that out, or any mixes, but that's really great, plipplop template music, plipplop is best when theres a bit of fuzz

048 (gareth), Friday, 14 April 2006 09:27 (nineteen years ago)

ha when i first heard "rej" i thought of isolee! the melody line reminded me a little of "beau mot plage." but it didn't sound like isolee.

tim yeah i like "dog days"! but that's the only tune by him i like out of everything i've heard!

geeta (geeta), Friday, 14 April 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

...but i tend to like the big obvious dance hits. i have no idea why that guy puts out full length albums and eps. i think if he just released the occasional 12" i would like him better.

geeta (geeta), Friday, 14 April 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

re: Tejada, i've gotta say Tejada was the strongest DJ I saw out last year, whatever genre his stuff is. he's also a fine producer. where does he find the time, energy, etc? that night he also tossed off a warmup set by playing an hour of post-rock, which I didn't like so much, but he's not a bad drummer either. someone told me he's from a famous classic music family, is that true?

Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 14 April 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

yeah his mother is an opera singer i think! she's been sampled on some tejada tunes.

geeta (geeta), Friday, 14 April 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

that makes sense. thanks geeta also for turning me onto asanebo!

Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 14 April 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

I like Tejada a lot but I can sorta sympathise with Ronan's position only insofar as it's hard not to be suspicious of someone who spens so much time demonstrating at least a basic level of proficiency in all styles that are currently hot.

Actually a good deal of other producers do this (Matthew Dear, Jake Fairley... maybe it's a North American thing) but Tejada might be the only one who doesn't cloak his activities wth pseudonyms.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 14 April 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno about Tejada, so many boring 12s and if you have to hear them ALL after enthusiastically buying one 2 or 3 years ago you realise yes he does have a distinctive sound sometimes, but AAAARGH ULTRA COMPRESSED SYNTH NOISES STOP IT!

"Chorgs" is like his best tune.

As for the Audion Fabric, like Luciano's Sci-Fi-Hi-Fi it failed to keep me awake on my flight to NY. It seemed ok but a bit grim and dark, I don't think "Rej" triumphantly storms in either, more like "thank god". I've never been inclined to listen to it since the first two times anyway.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 14 April 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think "Rej" triumphantly storms in either, more like "thank god"

ha ha hahahahaha! i would never listen to a luciano mix to stay awake. there was yr mistake right there ronan!

and yeah good dog tejada's "asanebo" is beautiful isn't it? a sort of psychedelic plip-plop feel.

tim wrote something really good a long time ago about "sweat (on the walls)" that relates to ronan's argument: "Sometimes I suspect that John Tejada is forging his back catalogue on the basis that if all other German micro/electro-ish house disappeared tomorrow he’d still be able to offer a representative sampling of all its various nooks and crannies. Usually people who do this end up being a bit second-tier in all fields (jack of all trades etc.) but if there's a word that sums up "Sweat" it's... consummate. Perhaps that's why I'm starting with it: if you wanted a single track to explain to you where Germany's head is at right now, this would probably be it."

geeta (geeta), Friday, 14 April 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

I think Dear deserves brownie points for touring around and trying to pull off the bowie crooner to audiences who expect it to be dance music. That and "And In the Night."

natedey (ndeyoung), Friday, 14 April 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know about Sci-Fi Hi-Fi but all the Luciano sets i've heard are astonishingly monochromatic, only not in a bad way. Okay maybe partly in a bad way - they're sorta boring. But also really involving and hypnotic! In that weird contradictory way that dance music can do so well. Was it in this thread that someone recently said he reminds them of deep house mostly? Cos often his live sets make me think more of propah techno, all just drum loops and effects for ever and ever and ever.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 14 April 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Geeta I wrote that thing about "Sweat" right after getting back from Germany. I heard it so many times while over there it was ridiculous (I think maybe T cracked and played it when we were at Panorama Bar? I can't remember now). That and "Beat The Streets". And it was at Tobias Thomas that I first heard the Wighnomy Bros remix of "This World". It was so weird spending such a tiny period of time in a world where this stuff was totally ubiquitous, and then returning to here where it was non-existent (I didn't hear "Sweat" played out again until about two months ago).

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 14 April 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

I tend to think that most people quite like the "This World" remix the first time they hear it. But it's impossible to not hate it after five exposures.

Thomas also played this amazing remix of The Modernist's "Protest Song" (which itself is like a better version of "This World") which I've never heard since. Not the Mayer version which I know and love. Maybe it was M.I.A.'s?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 14 April 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

i like Tejada's best stuff the same way I like Booka Shade: often the track is made from a simple synth riff which you think will repeat itself for the next five minutes and geht's noch your head in with brutal obviousness, but slowly the riff now seems to be made up of 3 or 4 seperate sounds which each go somewhere and come back fitting together differently so at the climax the track is still using the same big dumb hook to shake the room but sounds new because it's coming from a different direction.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 14 April 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

The Audion Fabric mix is really curious in that it has no discernable speed or momentum. It never leans forward or leans back in the slightest, staying uniformly upright and stiff through tracks that are a lot more kinetic than he lets on. It's weird cuz while that's nagging and initially underwhelming I grew to like the same phenomenon on his Suckfish album quite a lot after quite a lot of time.

Andy, Friday, 14 April 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

i have no idea why that guy puts out full length albums

for lazy people! i.e. me :)

Andy OTM... I like really dry techno that's more revealing on a proper listen often though. Like that Louderbach album, although that's kind of dry and fluid(?) if that makes any sense! Whereas Audion is just straight up chafing, good if you're in the mood, but quite offputting if you're not. It's quite IDM in that way actually, and an unfortunate disconnect from the singles which rock out hard! "2Rabimmel 2Rabumm.." I would half put in this ill-defined category as well. And sh*tloads of Tresor type stuff too.

fandango (fandango), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

yeah "chafing" is a good word to describe the dear sound i think.

geeta (geeta), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

re Tejada (& Leviste), I thought 'Faux Obsolete' was v nice. but it may be just be a case of that track beating many others like it to my ears first...that's about 2 and a half years old now. hey i'm catching up with you all!

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

PS who came up with this 'plip-plop' thing? i despair.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

I have pretty much no interest in hearing the fabric mix though. Other than maybe to work out what the hell point that stylus dfa review was trying to make w/r/t it vs. luciano's scifihifi.

fandango (fandango), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

Steve, The Hacker coined the term "plip-plop". I think it's been reclaimed here because it's more descriptive than 'minimal'.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

i want no part of it. it's 'shuffletech' all over again!

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

i totally missed that thread tho, dammit

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

I forgot to say, nice anorak Vahid!

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

plip-plop is great!!! do you hate onomotopeia?

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

IMO matthew dear's stuff as false tops anything else he's done artist or dj-wise excepting leave luck to heaven which rendered labels like bpitchcontrol nearly mute to me (kinda odd that allien and dear are touring partners). i've had the fabric mix sitting in the to-be-listened-to pile for weeks now...i think the poor track record of their recent mixes is what's putting me off.

the recent melchior/luciano tracks own this thread. (cadenza 11??)

xpost, i agree w vahid - plip-plop *is* great!

breakfast pants (disco stu), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

tejada & leviste was sort of terrible, wasn't it? i was madly in love with everything about it, except the music, and it took me a long time to realize that his detroit-via-essex approach just rubs me the wrong way, most of the time. which is weird because when OTHER people do it (morgan geist, tom middleton, plaid, mark broom, stasis) i go bonkers for it.

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

'plip-plop' term suggests 'this music is like going for a shit but it all comes out in annoying bits'. i guess that's why the Hacker used it that way. 'plip-plop' might as well mean 'Eple' and similar. ah well, too late now.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

i was listening to justin harris' new mix cd and in the middle my girlfriend came in and was like "you listening to alvin & the chipmunks again?"

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

criticising the name of the genre (which has been reclaimed because of how useful it is, obviously, to others anyway) is a new low in this long campaign of ennui and disappointment dude

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

xpost the track in question was a remake of bumblee orchestra's "love bug" but there are lots of chipmunk voices over the whole thing

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

btw rob mello's track is total plip-plop / k-house bliss except w/ a dj sneak backbeat.

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

WTF happened to MFF? they haven't put anything out for like six months!!

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

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vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

"critical" is excellent! i repped for it months ago and no one seemed to give a shit. rob mello is really underrated i think (perhaps because he doesn't release or tour very often)

breakfast pants (disco stu), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

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vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

those are some fucked liner notes if that's what they are

breakfast pants (disco stu), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

hell, even DJ sneak goes like quasi-plip-plop on "funky rhythm" (although almost more in solid groove style) except he has the poor sense to rap over his track. "there is no other / the big soul brother / check out my steelo / you wackass biters / graffiti writer / rhythm composer / when it's time to filter / no one gets closer"

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

my wet dream right now is "fabric 31: solid groove"

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

"Luke Solomon - Mix This (mff/KSR/2005)
???? >> of the time before
Mode the minimal house and wild style the Chicago house, UK metamorphosis TEX of the ? ? mixing the DJ mix how with the sir. The place where you can feel the love to the Chicago house is good."

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

criticising the name of the genre (which has been reclaimed because of how useful it is, obviously, to others anyway) is a new low in this long campaign of ennui and disappointment dude

ha ha, the name of the genre! was there an opening ceremony? there aren't many genre names or attempts at that i haven't complained about (so i can't say 'plip-plop' is a new low), don't worry dude. i will try and come back with some more positive feedback soon tho.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

haha vahid are you auto-translating de:bug reviews?

geeta (geeta), Friday, 14 April 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

capsule reviews from japanese record stores

vahid (vahid), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

is 'minimal anthem' an oxymoron?

jergins (jergins), Friday, 14 April 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

minimal anthem is where it is at

hector (hector), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

exactly

michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

you don't have msn or anything michael?

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 14 April 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

no, i posted that because for some reason i couldn't login properly to ilm to post that psb thread. i'm sure i could have but i am illiterate computer-wise, what do i need to do?

michael wells (michael w.), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://messenger.msn.com/Xp/Default.aspx

try that, if it works let us know. even if you don't get it working just now it'd be worth having since you're on broadband now.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 14 April 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

[spam from sweden]

online directory main, Saturday, 15 April 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

hello! can you connect me to jesper dahlback's? i believe he lives in stockholm.

vahid (vahid), Saturday, 15 April 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

hi there, im just checking in to rep for audions fabric mix, fabric 27. I love it! ive listened to it shit loads of times and the tune i like least is ama "rej"! sounds like im being contrary, but im not*. Why do i like the mix? well im not too good with words but for some reason its like matthew dear being really dry and clicky and dark and stuff, except its really shining and funky! thats about it from me, laters


*im totally bewildered by this solid groove thing. this is based on a comprehensive review of their back catalogue 2 of their remixes

ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 16 April 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

i realised that thats not selling it very well but then the only other thing i can think to say is that it made me listen to "chromosul" a bunch of times, when that comes on in the mix its well good!

ambrose (ambrose), Sunday, 16 April 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

stevem OTM - Plip Plop (the name) sounds repulsive.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 16 April 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

But no one actually calls it plip-plop outside three threads on ILM do they? I'd kind of assumed it was a joke.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 16 April 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

The term is classic though.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 16 April 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

*im totally bewildered by this solid groove thing. this is based on a comprehensive review of their back catalogue 2 of their remixes

what's to understand? minimal bleeps + boompty bass + broken beats + prefuse steez.

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 16 April 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago)

crappest label name ever!
http://www.inpartmaint.com/plop/e/home_e.html

Good Dog (Good Dog), Sunday, 16 April 2006 23:59 (nineteen years ago)

let's talk about the sascha funke boogybytes vol 2 mix! i am kind of in love with it!

geeta (geeta), Monday, 17 April 2006 01:41 (nineteen years ago)

I've not heard it yet. Bah.

The Robag Wruhme remix of some Matthias Tanzmann track (Bulldozer?) that came out in February or something on Moon harbour is very good, heard it for the first time tonight.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Monday, 17 April 2006 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

yeah that remix is ace.

the tracklist to the sascha funke mix looks like it could be excellent. i am surpised to see that "where we at" is on it because i found that single to be really disappointing.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Monday, 17 April 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

what do people know about agaric/we are/kontra-music. it's got that mobilee roll-out sound, but a bit dryer, a bit more ketty. well, the couple of 12s i heard were. i think 'we are' has a bit of a vibe around it at the moment, does anyone know what the best in the series are?

also, audio werner is my favourite dude right now. interesting long conceptual trax, brimming with ideas, he's like a more accessible villalobos.

nebbesh (nebbesh), Monday, 17 April 2006 07:54 (nineteen years ago)

solid groove "this is sick" even has the Cosmic Sandwich-esque backward voice thing going. not really minimal but man, I love that track.

Renard (Renard), Monday, 17 April 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

let's talk about the sascha funke boogybytes vol 2 mix! i am kind of in love with it!

yes, let's! I listened to it twice last night and loved it, except when the freaky voices came on near the end.

jergins (jergins), Monday, 17 April 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

'freaky voices'--do you mean the cover of 'these days'? i think that's beautiful! the stiff german accent really suits 'these days'--it sounds faithful to the nico version.

geeta (geeta), Monday, 17 April 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

No, 'these days' is really wonderful and unexpected and great. It's as sweet of an ending as 'La Ritournelle' was for the Superpitcher mix.

Before that there's a detroit grand poobahs (or somebody) deep-voiced thing that's lascivious and off-putting. Still not as bad as 'Sweaty Balls' though;)

jergins (jergins), Monday, 17 April 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

are you thinking of the Louderbach track?

I was going to skip the Sascha Funke mix... I'm sensing this might not happen :/

fandango (fandango), Monday, 17 April 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

the new alex under on trapez is THE JAM. the bass drop is HEAVY!

something less threatening (heywood), Monday, 17 April 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

hmm i'm confused as to what track at the end you're talking about, jergins--the track before 'these days' is voigt & voigt - 'vision 03' and the track before that is sleeparchive! no vocals involved.

geeta (geeta), Monday, 17 April 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

i think my favorite part of the mix is the mega-trancey part when the isolee remix peels away to reveal schatrax which gives way to transformer 2! god i've become such a softie.

geeta (geeta), Monday, 17 April 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

-the track before 'these days' is voigt & voigt - 'vision 03'

Ah great, this means the mix can not suck. :) That Sleeperarchive is hot too. Another month before it's released isn't it? :(

Omar (Omar), Monday, 17 April 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

here is my hastily typed out tracklisting for the sascha funke mix:

1 efdemin - jean
2 tomson & daniel de la curtis - synthic
3 trentemoeller - serenitti (hemmann & kaden remix)
4 international pony - our house
5 zander vt - cut the lines
6 villalobos - what you say is more than i can say (isolee speak and spell remix)
7 schatrax - misspent years
8 transformer 2 - pacific symphony/italian smooth remix
9 sascha funke - in between days
10 carsten jost - uccellini
11 louderbach - grace (anxiety)
12 henrik schwarz, dixon & ame (feat derrick carter) - where we at
13 sleeparchive - acd-voice
14 voigt & voigt - vision 03
15 phantom ghost - these days

geeta (geeta), Monday, 17 April 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

that remix of trentemoller is good - in fact, not sure why that whole single didn't make more noise as it's just as good as sunstroke.

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 17 April 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

just as good as sunstroke surely kinda damning!

Trentemoller has a little dose of Tiefschwarz syndrome when it comes to original work vs remixes, I think, though "Kink" on 3rd Floor is amazing.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 17 April 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

BOMP BOMP BOMP BOMPBOMP
BOMP BOMP WEAAAAAAAAOOOOOWWW
BOMP BOMP BOMP BOMPBOMP
BOMP BOMP WEEAAAAAAAAAOOOWWW

vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

Ronan did you ever hear "Beta Boy"? It's the Trentemoller track which is most like his remixes, and it's brilliant, very energetic.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

Ellen Allien & Apparat - Jet

I don't know what it is but it's so soft & fluffy & pink.

I dunno how much of it (orchestra of bubbles) is house really!

fandango (fandango), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:57 (nineteen years ago)

Solieb - respell! on Maschine. Uy, uy. Fantastic.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

that Solieb track on sci.fi.hi.fi is mental odd & good

fandango (fandango), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

https://www.juno.co.uk/products/200117-01.htm

2005 :(

we need more Dinky & Sylvie Marks minimal bobbins house this year :0

fandango (fandango), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

well, in truth, Serenetti doesn't sound anything like Sunstroke, I only mentioned because it was a big name. However, Serenetti imo is as good as anything T'moller has done thus far

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 17 April 2006 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

"Serenetti" is a lot flatter (I'm using the term descriptively rather than judgmentally) than the two big Trentemoller minimal anthems - "Physical Fraction" and "Polar Shift". Whereas those tracks build from deep whispering dub to peaktime electro, "Serenetti" burbles along at a mid-point between the two for its entire length. Which is nice too, but I think the less obvious manipulation of dynamics makes it less of a DJ weapon. I get my Trentemoller b-sides mixed up but I'm pretty sure the b-side to "Serenetti" is actually the "bigger" track.

"Sunstroke" is a misnomer here: people talk about the track quite a bit but it's not really a big tune - DJs don't tend to play it much in my experience.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

what the tune on the cocoone website, not the first one. but the one if you click listing, or whavever, it has some vocals

charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:49 (nineteen years ago)

hey jergins i think you're talking about "where we at" -- that's the track that has the vocal that is freaking you out! the derrick carter a capella from "where u at?" is layered over the tune.

geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 00:35 (nineteen years ago)

Yea, I'm not going crazy. Yep, 'where u at?' at 50:50, just after the 'Can't sit still/anxiety' vocal. damn, the music's still ace though.

jergins (jergins), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

Where's the love for "Where We At"? I think it's a great single!

jeffery (jeffery), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 03:55 (nineteen years ago)

oh wow nhar silkcut

jergins (jergins), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 06:54 (nineteen years ago)

this Afrilounge release is a couple of months old, but I only just heard it in store and it sounded hot. Next purchase for me.

(the Afrilounge remix of "Body Language" was way underrated, BTW)

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 07:19 (nineteen years ago)

That one is good actually, I forget how or when I heard it, or how it sounds! But I remember the tracknames and thinking it was good!

I like the Afrilounge remix of Body Language yeah, I guess on that 12 there was only one winner.

Nhar is kinda similar to Afrilounge, just a little proggier, but they both have that really stretched out delayed type style.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 09:07 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Ronan, that K2 track you always go on about: is it the one with all the really slow, gradually rising chords, like an entire city powering up for take off?

The A-side on the Afrilounge 12" sounded a bit like Jona to me: simultaneously harsh and cinematic and cold and groovy.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

Jona is absolutely amazing, I have decided, like Neptunes standard of production skill, some of the stuff going on in his tracks, particularly the new one on the GPM comp.

I go on about a few K2 tracks lately so I'm not sure! Gui Boratto is the one I said was the track of the year, maybe, it's a bit like something off the Ivan Smagghe Fabric with a touch of that Mr Oizo bassline and yes, a totally drawn out build up type track.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

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spammer, Wednesday, 19 April 2006 09:47 (nineteen years ago)

I am down for this Jona love but didn't strike me as minimal?!

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 09:53 (nineteen years ago)

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rap ring tones, Wednesday, 19 April 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha that's niche marketing for you: "if you like minimal house, try polyphonic ringtones!"

"I am down for this Jona love but didn't strike me as minimal?! "

Steve I think current Get Physical stuff esp. totally dissolves the boundaries between electro-house and minimal (and detroit techno and prog and...).

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

been a while since i chimed in, shit. too busy downloading plip-plop ringtones. (btw, i HATE the term "plip-plop" and promise never to use it in print; if i do someone please flog me with an audio werner record.)

audio werner: on fucking FIRE, comment upthread about him being a more accessible villalobos quite OTM. just picked up a nice schaffhauser 12" on WARE w/ a killer audio werner remix. and the latest thing i have from him on hartchef (who the hell are they?) which i think without checking the label is this release, is solid gold.

re: the stylus reference upthread, can someone please explain that second graf to me? it's nice to be "flirted" with but i'm still confused as to what luciano or I have to do with the DFA remixes...

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

luciano colder than audion?

DEEDS NOT WORDS (vahid), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

that review is pretty bad.

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Reading reviews like that worries me. Because my initial thought is "someone bothered to put this on a reasonably well respected website, but it makes no sense to me, I must be hearing things wrong". Then I re-listen to Fabric 27 and the Luciano mix and I realise I was right all along. The reference to ketamine is a bit passé as well.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Just got Guido Schneider's Focus On, really nice (mixed) compilation with 10 of his own tracks and 3 remixes. Can't exactly explain why i like it though...they all sound like proper dance floor tunes, not anthems but those floaty (but not too dry) tracks just before the next track comes in with mad sounds/banging bassdrum.

Omar (Omar), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

That review is a tribute to blind name-dropping, surely? Addressing someone as "herr" and saying crunk in nearly the same phrase is like trend-dropping of the worst extent.

How's Dominik Eulberg live? I've been too lazy or uncoordinated to actually schedule one of my Chicago trips on a day that anyone good is playing there but this summer is sounding like it could be the time to rectify that.

mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

that audio werner 'trust' is tribal minimal. really good. there seems to be a micro trend of really great drums appearing in a lot of this stuff at the moment which is something i wholeheartedly applaud.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

and philip - you were saying???

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

that DFA record review that Phil linked above has upset me so much that i am going to do a blow-by-blow critique of a few paragraphs of it:

We like Achso; we prefer Luciano’s Sci.Fi.Hi.Fi. 2 to Audion’s stunning Fabric 27 ‘cause it’s colder, less Detroit cum Chicago cum every mid-western town with wi-fi, bubbling with a frosty tropical heat that seems to freeze at the moment it burns.

Well, I think that Audion mix is less than "stunning," but that's a matter of personal preference. Luciano's mix is one of the least "cold" thing I've heard all year. I don't understand the references to Detroit and Chicago at all--they make no sense; it just seems like meaningless name-dropping. "Every mid-western town with wi-fi" makes no sense also.

Dance-punk was a crack in the door, an easy entry into a world of dancing or wall-flowering, which ever way you swallow your ketamine. But that was so. . .I can’t remember.

I get the idea that this is one of those reviewers who has never listened to dance music before the DFA. Ok, whatever, but anyone who has done k knows that you don't swallow it; people generally blow lines or bumps of it. Taking it orally would be quite a waste.

Yet DFA was there at the start. Say what you will now, but Herrs Murphy and Goldsworthy were my-housing to Daft Punk and The Slits when we were arguing out Nevermind v. In Utero."

DFA wasn't there at the start. James Murphy was in a rock band called Pony in the early 90s I believe, so he was probably arguing about Nevermind vs. In Utero as well. "Herr" is incongruous here, and "my-housing" is poor construction as well as a poorly thought out "clever" reference.

They continue to put out the white boy crunk as consistently as any remixers or production duos in the industry. There’s a reason there are enough foaming reactionaries to start an army; they’ve been contorting sugary pseudo-pop (Gwen, anyone?)...

There is nothing "white boy crunk" (wtf does that mean?!) about their productions. And how is Gwen Stefani 'pseudo-pop'? She is full-on pop, surely? I get the feeling that the writer has a disdain for pop music in general.

...into mainstays of hip, the oblique into Warhol mimicry, before we’d lost our sense of irony (you know, ‘cause it’s ALWAYS FUCKING THERE).

'Warhol mimicry' makes no sense and is out of place here, and the bit about irony makes me want to claw my eyes out

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

Calm down, swallow some ketamine or something! It's not worth getting annoyed at that kind of shit. I know because I once was so pissed off with an egregiously badly researched Pitchfork review that I sent an email in listing the factual errors. Boy did I feel like a dork the next day.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

oh no worries, i have time to spare! i did all that while i was waiting for a pot of tea to heat up. three minutes, tops.

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

besides, i am too busy getting worked up on the village-voice-is-going-down-the-tubes threads to worry too much about a stylus review

geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

I just don't get what the DFA have to do with house or techno.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

they could program a 909 to just do a kick drum on the 1s at 120bpm and it would still sound sort of like indie rock to me.

Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Yes but their live reconstruction of the sequence would be amazing.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

that ol' 'Sister Saviour' dub was kinda housey

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

maybe that guy means they were there at the start of...'dance punk' or whatever. i dunno.

what does this have to do with plip plop anyway?

charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

Luciano was mentioned!

Renard (Renard), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

anyone heard that Steve Bug remix of Tiefschwarz's "Fly"

I like it .... blippy and catchy with a lot of space btwn things, almost like a Wighnomy track

apologies if this is months-old bobbins, I am well behind the clued-in Europeans on these threads

Renard (Renard), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't it kind of (badly)... written in character? Indie kid who's just got into house revisiting the first step in that direction?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

it's just bad

Renard (Renard), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

Ronan I dunno I think DFA are very housey! Have you heard their remixes of The Chemical Bros' "The Boxer" or "Just Like We Breakdown"? These could easily be by Jacques Lu Cont and no-one would bat an eyelid.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

T/S:

I shouldn’t be talking about this. Not here in the open.

vs.

Can we talk? I have to get something off my chest, and we’ve become so friendly over the years.

danski (danski), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

Back on Trentemoller: I suspect his live sets would help er explain his own tracks to people who like his remixes more - all the atmospheric build and so forth makes more sense in the context of an entire mix, and he pushes the peaks harder and longer - the "Physical Fraction" climax goes on deliciously long. There's some sets floating around the interweb I think. One that I really like further bolsters my belief that "Beta Boy" is secretly his greatest track by finishing the set with it in a shower of glory, with added rawk guitar fx just for fun.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 20 April 2006 05:28 (nineteen years ago)

twitch you bastard! you scared me for a second there, i thought someone had hacked my site!!!!!!!!

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Tim - agree, tho I've not seen (or even heard) a live Trentemoller mix, but can say his tracks often work well for me in mixes. They already sound good, and are very good for sustaining whatever I have going on, and also easy to have lots of tracks come out of them

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 20 April 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

sorry philip. i patently have too much time on my hands this week ciouldn't resist.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 20 April 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

sorry philip. i patently have too much time on my hands this week i couldn't resist.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

ha. not sure if this fits here or in electro-house bobbins, but i'm quite feeling radio slave's "my bleep" - another fucking ANTHEM! flügel's mix is pretty phenomenal, prolly more germane to this thread.

also just got the new roger23 and new losoul on playhouse.... goody goody goody.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

i was a little disappointed with the lo soul but then i think i'm still chasing the buzz of his earlier releases. do you know if the new superlongevity has dropped yet?

stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

i dunno, i've learned never to judge losoul right off the bat - ever since that first LP i've found his work to be much less immediate, much more of a grower.

don't know about superlongevity... i'm pissed that the CD promo just contains four-minute edits! not like i wasn't gonna buy the vinyl anyway.... *huff*

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

i shall go and give it another listen. too many records, not enough time (except when larking about on the interweb)!

stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

How's the Roger23? I never really got into 'into strict tempo' but playhouse is so hard to pass up nowadays.

natedey (ndeyoung), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

it's a bit less jacking than the last one i have - which i play all the time - a bit darker and more subdued. one track has very knife-ish vocals. honestly i think i prefer the former but i've also just started listening. definitely good stuff though. i can't think of a playhouse that's let me down in quite a while now, actually. (well, maybe the hieroglyphic being - which is a phenomenal record, but i just can't seem to find a time or place to play it... but then that could just be my sucky skillz. heh.)

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

hey y'nkow, apropos of nothing, i kinda find this thread really depressing. i mean, every day someone comes in with 10 new tracks that they are loving, and either i wont hear them, or cant hear them, or cant afford to hear, or will forget about.

how on earth do you keep up?
two years ago i looked at that "electrohouse 2004" thread and tried to get all the things mentioned off slsk so i could listen. i didnt even manage all that, so i have 2 years to catch up on.

ultimately, i just feel like its all rushing by. with only my harzer roller Schierker Kreisel to comfort me

ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Phil -

I don't know if this belongs in this thread, but what do you think of these explicitly communal labels - Wir im Rhythmus and We Are records - it seems like a funny trend.

and...how are the We Are records? i can't bring myself to import them...

natedey (ndeyoung), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

how on earth do you keep up?

i don't think anyone can. i buy / get sent around 40 12" singles a week and barely manage to get through / get to know those before the pile mounts up yet again.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

aw ambrose i find that rejuvenating! i was down on music for a while but to be crazily following 10 new releases per day again feels good.

i might also be giddy because i am meeting ryuichi sakamoto in the west village in three hours! (!!!!!!) and it's the most amazing new york day, weather-wise.

geeta (geeta), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

ohh!

i'd describe myself as a super jealous, couped up new yorker at the moment.

natedey (ndeyoung), Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

the only WIR i have is the minilogue "girl from botany bay" EP, which absolutely slays - best non-border community border community release this year.

the we are stuff is odd...i have three of the four 10"s, and i like them, but every time i try to play one out it seems to go all awry, vibe-wise, in the set. but then my housemate plays them and they kill me, so again, i probably just suck. i still don't know who we are is; i hear it's a buncha famous people but that could just be another sleeparchive-type rumor.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 20 April 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but WIR only have two releases so far I believe. "Girl from botany bay" is fantastic, so good that I don't even mind that it's basically progressive. SUBIDÓN!

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Thursday, 20 April 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, it looks like four are slated to be released by *yesterday?* on the wordandsound web site, but that seems a little ambitious. I shall investigate.

natedey (ndeyoung), Thursday, 20 April 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Crowdpleaser & St. Plomb - 2006

I've been wondering about this ever since Philip called it "A sticky Chicago fixation that can't help from going knock-kneed, a dab of Captain Comatose's unhinged soul, some gaslit gumshoe scuffery, a nose for the long groove and an eye on the mirror-bending horizon." I'm not really sure what gaslit gumshoe scuffery is, but I like sticky things from Chicago, small doses of Captain Comatose, and long grooves on the beach. Well, there is finally some info up on http://www.mentalgroove.ch/ as well as a pair of samples. I like them both, especially 1er Mai.

lf (lfam), Thursday, 20 April 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Flugel's Radioslave mix is awesome. REPETITION.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 20 April 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

Oh! There's a sample up for 'Shift' as well - just change the filename in the url from whatever.mp3 to shift.mp3.

lf (lfam), Thursday, 20 April 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

It's like a funky robot with real tears of joy and sorrow

I'm sold!

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Thursday, 20 April 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

haven't seen any mention of a Giorgio Gigli, but he's released a couple of very nice singles this year (Rarefied Atmosphere, Geometrik Forms 12-inch). Not minimal exactly, kind of ambient, but sort of cosmic, ero-dreamy kind of stuff. I love what I've heard so far

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:25 (nineteen years ago)

hey y'nkow, apropos of nothing, i kinda find this thread really depressing. i mean, every day someone comes in with 10 new tracks that they are loving, and either i wont hear them, or cant hear them, or cant afford to hear, or will forget about.

how on earth do you keep up?
two years ago i looked at that "electrohouse 2004" thread and tried to get all the things mentioned off slsk so i could listen. i didnt even manage all that, so i have 2 years to catch up on.


I guess it's comforting I'm not alone here. Yet I have to check this daily too, otherwise I already feel thrown out of the loop.

Tokyo Ghost Stories (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

i've only heard the 'geometrik forms' record but it is super nice and very cosmic.

x post

stirmonster (stirmonster), Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

The advantage to not keeping up is finding something like Âme - Rej fresh & not even remotely "played out" when you finally get round to hearing it!

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 20 April 2006 23:49 (nineteen years ago)

not sure if this is the place, but WHEN THE HELL IS THAT REVELEE REMIX COMING OUT?????

jackl (jackl), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

may!

geeta (geeta), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

april is the cruellest month haha

geeta (geeta), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

the other mixes of 'revelee' just dropped. the dfa mix is very er, balearic i guess would be the term. lots of piano. the baby ford sounds like a perlon locked groove.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

It's like a funky robot with real tears of joy and sorrow

I'm sold!

-- jimnaseum

haha I wrote this !

blunt (blunt), Friday, 21 April 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

Respect!

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Friday, 21 April 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

*bows

blunt (blunt), Friday, 21 April 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

thanks, geeta. I can't wait to hear this without the Sweeney v.o.!

jackl (jackl), Saturday, 22 April 2006 03:43 (nineteen years ago)

minimal love

stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 24 April 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

arrr beat me to it by what, less than 10 minutes !

blunt (blunt), Monday, 24 April 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

xpost/start

Isn't there a 2006 Mutek thread floating about that I can't seem to track down? Much obliged for pointing me in the right direction.

xpost/end

Zimmer026 (Zimmer026), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

countdown to mutek 2006

geeta (geeta), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

whoomp! (there it is) -- thnx fräulein geeta

Zimmer026 (Zimmer026), Monday, 24 April 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

How about that new Marketing release from Tekel & Tim Paris? I could see Marketel's bassline described as rubbery, but that's just mistaking the substance for the ever-growing balloon.

natedey (ndeyoung), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

has anyone heard that 'anonymous' series called WE ARE (coloured 10" vinyls)?

i wonder if the music on them is as attractive as the colour 10"-es.............

and also, has anyone heard the recent sender release by "chizh & cast"? we had an argument about it with my friends, with opinions ranging from "awfully good" to "hoplessly shitty".... i'm the one to think "awfully good" rather than "hoplessly shitty", but i'd love to hear more opinions, thank you a lot.

nique (nique), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 00:06 (nineteen years ago)

Sessions - Mixed by Josh Wink

http://www.ministryofsound.com/music/albums/MinistryofSound-Sessions-MixedbyJoshWink


Disc 1
Run Stop Restore “Corporal”
Donacha Costello “Colorseries Blue B”
Anja Schneider & Sebo K “Rancho Relaxo
Sten “Back Four”
Hardfloor “T2DAC” (Claro Intelcto Remix)
Quinn and Benny Rodriguez “7up”
Steve Bug “Summer Nights”
D5 “Flotation Tank”
Los Hermanos “Lines Of Nazca”
Radiohead “Everything In Its Right Place” Wink remix
DJ Skull “Don’t Stop The Beat”
Wink “Higher State Of Consciousness” Eyes In The Circle Of Life Remix- Matthew Johnson
Matthew Johnson “Love Letter To The Enemy”

Disc 2
DJ Yellow “Elusiv”
East Side Scientific “Nowhere”
Loco Dice “Jacuzzi Games”
John Tejada “Sucre”
Levon Vincent “Love Technique”
Hardfloor “Soulful Spirit Of House” Wink’s Spirit Of House Mix
Guido Schneider “As Dry As I can”
Written and Produced by Guido Schneider.
Octave One “Blackwater” Alter Ego Vocal Mix
The Orb “Masterblaster”
Jasper “Uncertain”
DJ ESP “Column Weave”
Subspace “ElektroFluxx”
Steevio “Dusk (live)”
Jeff Mills “Expanded”
Wink “Swirl”
Richie Inkle “Perspective”
Mateo Murphy “Shadows”

manuel (manuel), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 04:32 (nineteen years ago)

"Is there any room left back there in the bandwagon?" ;)

(I'm listening to Bugnology 2 right now. Nice, much better than part 1, which almost bored me to death.)

Omar (Omar), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 06:48 (nineteen years ago)

"higher state of consciousness (mathew jonson rmx)"? dang! what the hell is that gonna sound like?

nebbesh (nebbesh), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 07:10 (nineteen years ago)

It doesn't surprise me that Wink likes Steve Bug. Those two multinationals should meld together. Josh Steve Wink Bug Pokerflat Deep Tech House Boredom Déssous Phonique Boredom Ltd.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

I just downloaded Alexkid's 'Caracol' on Bleep. Quite like it - seems to occupy this bridge between minimal and electro too. I wish they were able to put more of the stuff mentioned here and on the Electrohouse thread on Bleep.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

Good to see some love for Giorgio Gigli Rarefied Atmosphere is great. I posted it up over at my blog o thing a while back.

hector (hector), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

Mutek's line-up suddenly got very interesting (so stoked for Lawrence and 'piknicing' with Richie Hawtin & Magda & Troy Pierce (& you too, Marc Houle)!).

Zimmer026 (Zimmer026), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

x-post

"the we are stuff is odd...i have three of the four 10"s, and i like them, but every time i try to play one out it seems to go all awry, vibe-wise, in the set. but then my housemate plays them and they kill me, so again, i probably just suck. i still don't know who we are is; i hear it's a buncha famous people but that could just be another sleeparchive-type rumor.

-- philip sherburne (psherburn...), April 20th, 2006."

natedey (ndeyoung), Thursday, 27 April 2006 00:25 (nineteen years ago)

ps. (to phil) you obviously don't suck so quit the modest front. but once your internet is fixed you should put up a new mix - i'd love to hear a mobilee/vakant "minimalism" shindig. some of us have been waiting forEVER.

natedey (ndeyoung), Thursday, 27 April 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

steve bug's "summer nights" was released on josh wink's label so your prediction has already come true, ronan. the last phonique single was great. (proggy and loop-heavy, but not boring at all imo..great mixing tool) that fluegel mix of radioslave is great, i agree.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Thursday, 27 April 2006 03:31 (nineteen years ago)

This description of La Forza Del Destino google-translated from Japanese makes me want it so bad. ( http://tinyurl.com/przrh )

As in the simple sketch book the sound which was constructed with the natural posture saying whatever, charm. At each time the sound which soaks in dramatic development and the body which lie hidden in the minimal ???? hears it increases freshness.

lf (lfam), Saturday, 29 April 2006 07:44 (nineteen years ago)

saying whatever, charm.

lf (lfam), Saturday, 29 April 2006 07:45 (nineteen years ago)

One of the guys I work with is Sian, producing so far on Pokerflat and Déssous, and other labels to come. The Déssous one is definitely better than usual déssous deep house.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 29 April 2006 07:48 (nineteen years ago)

i picked up the chizh and cast record on sender a while ago. i have been playing the b2 track a bit, cant remember much about the rest, but so far i like it.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Saturday, 29 April 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

i picked up the chizh and cast record on sender a while ago. i have been playing the b2 track a bit, cant remember much about the rest, but so far i like it.


the record i am most excited about right now is the Ellen Allien and Apparat remix EP that just came out on bpitch. both the pier bucci and marc houle remixes are great in their own ways.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Saturday, 29 April 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

I am a sometime lurker on this and similar threads, looking for ideas for tunes to get, and sometimes striking gold, but I am mystified by the labels for the genres. When is it minimal house? or micro house? or electro house? or tech house? or just plain techno? or (god help me) 'plip plop'?

Here are some tunes I like which I think I heard about here first, what genre do they fall into?:

Nathan Fake - Dynamo (Dominik Eulberg remix)
James Holden & Nathan Fake - The Sky Was Pink
Rex the Dog - Prototype
Lopazz - Blood (Tiefschwarz remix)

And here are some tunes I like which I didn't hear about here, but probably fit in, what genres are they? [note to moderators - short samples included here, but not downloadable ysi, only undownloadable putfiles]:
http://media.putfile.com/sample-of-Dub-Kult---On-and-On-Guido-Schneider-remix
http://media.putfile.com/sample-of-Funk-Excursion
http://media.putfile.com/sample-of-gui-boratto-arquipelago
http://media.putfile.com/sample-of-john-tejada-paranoia
http://media.putfile.com/sample-of-luciano--quenum---orange-mistake
http://media.putfile.com/sample-of-melchior--luciano---solomons-prayer
http://media.putfile.com/sample-of-Solieb---Circus-Maximus
http://media.putfile.com/sample-of-vector-lovers-electrosuite

Also, any help here would be appreciated. Thanks.

Teh HoBBler (the pirate king), Saturday, 29 April 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

The Rex and Tiefschwarz would be classed as electrohouse, basically the more poppy and 80s style the more confident you can be that it's electrohouse.

In the past year or so "electrohouse" has broadened a little bit and gotten a little bit closer to minimal I guess. You could sort of call that Dinamo remix electrohouse or minimal.

Of the tunes you list most are categorised minimal, I would say, though as I say there is a sort of generalised link between electrohouse/minimal. Obviously it's all very confusing, not very much "minimal" about "Arquipelago" is there!

You should check out Gui Boratto's other 12 on Kompakt K2 also, "Sozinho".

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 29 April 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

cheers

Teh HoBBler (the pirate king), Saturday, 29 April 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

no problem, join the ILM hivemind!

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 29 April 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

i just got losoul 'what radio' on playhouse and side A is almost a symphony! really great, long and different every minute.
although maybe some absynth presets are a little bit too obvious ::))

then, i just got a 10" 'technostalgia 1' by citemuaj & niram iuqani (jaumetic & inaqui marin) - very nice!!!

nique (nique), Saturday, 29 April 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

shane berry's fillertet2 has become this years escoria, for me. its crept up on me, but, single of the year (and the only thing that superpitcher played last w/e that i actually *really* liked)

charltonlido (gareth), Sunday, 30 April 2006 06:09 (nineteen years ago)

let's talk about the sascha funke boogybytes vol 2 mix! i am kind of in love with it!

-- geeta

I was kind of thinking this was a weird release for Bpitch then I kinda remembered Flieg Mit existed and now I'm really looking forward to this!

fandango (fandango), Monday, 1 May 2006 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

Feeling: Margot - 'Torch' (Extrawelt remix) on (Great Stuff Recordings GSR 027). Sweeping minimal/tech house, melancholic, and very lovely.

http://www.juno.co.uk/products/216617-01.htm

stevo (stevo), Monday, 1 May 2006 05:12 (nineteen years ago)

Perhaps that Extrawelt remix belongs by the Trance-y Techno thread? Great Stuff Recordings turns out to have been founded by Tomcraft.

stevo (stevo), Monday, 1 May 2006 05:18 (nineteen years ago)

i was quite pleasantly surprised by the varied tracklist on boogy bytes 2, not being a HUGE bpitch fan, but the mix is great!

on a similar tip. looks like luciano's sci-fi hi-fi comes out this week!

something less threatening (heywood), Monday, 1 May 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

You could sort of call that Dinamo remix electrohouse or minimal.

Also it's quite progressive to my ears.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Monday, 1 May 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

progressive is the unspoken gorilla in the house of minimal/electrohouse anthems

hector (hector), Monday, 1 May 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

Urgh, yeah. I really loathe things like "girl from botany bay" because it really is progressive with clicks instead of snares. Not that the world needs more micro-genres, but do people reckon there's a movement away from the more syncopated Luciano-esque minimal and towards the more linear progressive type stuff? Also, which DJs champion which style these days? I get the feeling there are shifts going on - Ellen Allien played singapore this weekend and seemed to play about 3 hours of carl craig-style techno.

Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

I do think there is a move towards linear prgressive stuff. Although I am not entirely sure its a bad thing. Trying to go back and listen to some of the perlon catalog from a few years back I find it doesn't stand the test of time very well. That is not to say that it wasn't valid at the time but these things run in cycles. From aestheticism to hedonism is not a very far leap.

hector (hector), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 02:57 (nineteen years ago)

Erk, I should have clarified that better - obviously the really cut-up and "experimental" sound has been moved away from already, I meant more that there is a current within minimal which is more "swinging" in its rhythms and that the more progressive-influenced sounds seem to lose this.

Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 03:53 (nineteen years ago)

But Jacob isn't there a counter-movement of stuff like Guido Schneider/Jay Haze etc which is all about swinging rhythms, at times almost like tribal house cross with Can's Future Days? And someone like Dominik Eulberg appears to bat for both teams.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 07:42 (nineteen years ago)

Hurrah! In that case I shall listen to more Guido Schneider and Jay Haze...

Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

Jacob, if you haven't heard it yet you need to track down Tobi Neumann's Pass Your Bedtime mix! You will love the last track by Prosumer. Also Andre Galluzi's Berghain 01 is apparently pretty good in this vein.

And my slow-burn favourite track in this vein is Neumann's remix of 2Raumwohnung's "Melancholish Schoen" which has percussion to match anything Villalobos has done (only poppier).

I actually like the Minilogue track though. Perhaps I have less against prog than you do. And anyway prog only got boring because its sonic pallette became so restrictive, and this nu nu micro-prog (as opposed to old nu micro-prog which was the second MRI album) works precisely because "progressive with clicks" junks that pallette for a newer, more expansive one. Plus there are greater highs and lows and narrative development and etc. in these nu nu prog tracks.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Berghain 01 is probably the perfect mid point between clicky rhythmic minimal and this new lush progginess!

It doesn't lose the groove, but it isn't way off into Holden territory either.

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

the exclamation mark because I only hadnt realised how obvious that is until now (Thanks Tim F!)

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

Meanwhile

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 May 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

has anyone actually heard the long awaited superlongevity 4?

i'm really shocked
richardo is totally crazy
the craziest one there, i think

i'm upset that i didn't like it at all
maybe 10-20 more plays will do their business... i hope ::))

nique (nique), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

maybe 10-20 more plays will do their business... i hope ::))

that's how to do the superlongevity comps

lf (lfam), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

xxpost

2005 Bobbins but Goldfish Und Der Dulz Privacy (Chardronnet Mix) is a total gem of lush progginess. A-side Dj Shirakura - Routine Song (hemman & kaden remix) is more cut up minimal with a lovely Bucci-like bass-as-noise thing through it.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

i'm totally feeling the superlongevity four, no matter how much the four-minute edits annoy me. i have no idea who is doing what, because i listen on a newly purchased ipod which is inserted in my pocket. but i like.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

the question is - if one will be able to actually survive 10-20 plays of super.4 ... i'm not sure

nique (nique), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

richardo is totally crazy
the craziest one there, i think

good news!

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

i knew i would think different about super.4 the next day

now i admit that my yesterday's statement was made under a too huge influence of ricardo's track... most of the compilation is definitely great as it was expected to be, but ricardo is totally crazy anyway. almost unbearable at high volumes.
oh i know i'll buy it anyway.

nique (nique), Thursday, 4 May 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

i like ricardo's track - it has fully digested glitch's best traits and avoided the wanker click-cliches.

natedey (ndeyoung), Thursday, 4 May 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

More trippy Guido Schneider-style minimal: the Crisco Rework of Duoteque's "Amacord". Funny how this particular style can have almost zero hooks and still feel quite, I dunno, hooky in its construction.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 6 May 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

a guido schneider lp is imminent and likely to be great.

i think superlongevity 4 may be the best of that series.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Saturday, 6 May 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

the hookiness in a lot of these tracks (GS-style minimal) is derived from their almost bristly (and sometimes gristly!) texture i think. at least that's what engages me about them. hookiness generally being a separate facet and all unless you are timbaland or villalobos. this post seems to have looped into itself.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Saturday, 6 May 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

one more thing, i really like and admire the sascha funke boogybytes mix, but i also find it a bit too polite and perfect. it's indicative to me of some kind of plateau being reached in what can be done in that kind of narrative design-y style before it morphs into something else. i will definitely pick it up when it comes out though. one thing that really impressed me about it was that most of it actually sounds like techno, but maybe that is just because a lot of the tracks have big high-hats.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Saturday, 6 May 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

a guido schneider lp is imminent and likely to be great

yeah, see upthread. It's pretty good. I'm also really into Interkontinental 5 (so much better than 4 which I really disliked for some reason.)

I was wondering the other day if there is any recorded evidence (wink, wink) of those Villalobos sets at Der Visionare on Sunday floating around on the Net?

Omar (Omar), Saturday, 6 May 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

superlongevity 4 really is fantastic. more vocals than i'd expected, too. i've only given it 3 listens so far, though, so i think it'll take longer to sink in.

toby (tsg20), Saturday, 6 May 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

the schneider lp is only pretty good huh? i checked the tracklisting out over at discogs and it kind of looks like a beefed up singles comp which doesn't exactly bode well for something like album flow, but i'm excited to hear it anyway. i just checked your comment upthread, omar. that's the problem with these rolling threads. anyway, i am glad to read that it is mixed.

i was surprised to hear that interkontinental 5 was also mixed. i think it's a first for those, but it makes sense.

it seems like the minimal releases are threatening to turn into an avalanche these days. i am keen on hearing the new scsi-9 album.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Saturday, 6 May 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

it seems like the minimal releases are threatening to turn into an avalanche these days

That probably accounts for the only "pretty good" comment...so much stuff coming out it's hard to come up with some more in-depth view (although it's extra hard with Schneider somehow...I think Tim came up with a Future Days reference with which i'm going to listen to it next time.)

Omar (Omar), Saturday, 6 May 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

i usually spot guido schneider tracks by that super-layered and compressed phasing he tends to apply to his rhythms and by odd time signatures and loop layers that don't line up to the same bar. i guess what might krautrock-y about it is that he can be kind of "jammy" a lot like luciano's endless evolving micro-edits.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Saturday, 6 May 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

so much stuff coming out it's hard to come up with some more in-depth view

yes, i agree, but what is also pretty fucking great is how amazing the tracks coming out for the past couple of months have been.

i am thinking of the recent releases on m_nus (phil's pfork write-up was OTM), troy pierce remixes, matt john's remixes and stuff on perlon, superlongevity 4, cadenza, mobilee, that sascha funke mix, sasse's "losing control", the superpitcher side of the last speicher, recent stuff on my best friend and trapez, bugnology 2, get physical vol 2, the chelonis remixes, roman fluegel, losoul's "what radio", dapayk, sci.fi.hi.fi vol 2, etc, etc

the cabanne track on superlongevity 4 is so awesome.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Saturday, 6 May 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

The Can reference was also inspired by Prosumer's "The Craze (Dub Mix)" - last track on Pass Your Bedtime - which esp. reminded me of Future Days. But yeah Guido Schneider too. I think what both these guys do (and Jay Haze as well on a lot of stuff) is to make rhythmically involving stuff which is super intricate and thought out but also quite er relaxed and supine sounding, real flow motion aquasonics.

c.f. My My or Dominik Eulberg who are both in different ways very rhythmically complex and jammy but wouldn't so easily compare to Can I don't think.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 7 May 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

"flow motion aquasonics" reads like kodwo eshun. :-) it would be interesting to hear him talk about this kind of music. it's like surfing while standing on the edge of a comb. (i won't give up my bristly analogy. heh) the comparison with eulberg is a good one because there is a whole continuum of rhythm existing between say schneider and eulberg. very different styles although eulberg's dj hell remix may be a kind of unifier. there's a conscious front and center vs semi-conscious lucid dreaming thing going on here too.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Sunday, 7 May 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of Can, Bucci's LNuit has a bass straight out of the Holger Czukay octave-jumping trickbook.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Sunday, 7 May 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

Bruno Pronsato - The River (Franco Cinelli) - dark and twangy!

Good Dog (Good Dog), Sunday, 7 May 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

i havent heard it and ive never heard em at all, but minilogue have got a tune coming out on Traum on 6th June, so an email today told me. should i be excited?

ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 8 May 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

their last whatever (full-length?) was kinda blah for me but I love love love their michael jackson remix. so...maybe?

jergins (jergins), Monday, 8 May 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

"but I love love love their michael jackson remix" - is this referring to minilogue? if so, can someone point me in that direction because that totally passed me by.

girl from botany bay is still easily one of the best releases this year, could you post the info for the new traum release - i'm definitely excited.

natedey (ndeyoung), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

The Minilogue on Traum is pretty cool.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 8 May 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

Minilogue channeling Radiohead is definitely pretty cool.

natedey (ndeyoung), Monday, 8 May 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

"but I love love love their michael jackson remix" - is this referring to minilogue?

Yep, it's a slow-to-unfold remix of Billie Jean that holds the vocals in check. 6:46. Must be a white label. Found it on s1sk.

jergins (jergins), Monday, 8 May 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

here is a freaky mj site with a mention of it.

jergins (jergins), Monday, 8 May 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

new roman fluegel is awesome and really well-put together. it's making me want to take a walk with my cd player. i could dance through the park.

lf (lfam), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

Hi,

we are proud announce what could amount to a great big open air summer
hit
this summer 2006:

Minilogue- The Leopard (Traum v73)
The record will be released 6th of June!

He have attached the cover for you


Minilogue play live around the world week and often in front of
thousends of
people as they have been twice in Rio this year( Chemical music
festival..
in front of 22000 people!)

They played RAINBOW SERPENT AUSTRALIA 2006... visited New Zeeland for
the
first time.

The will play live in Berlin in the Panorama Bar in June and will
,promote
their record on TRAUM.

Regards, TRAUM

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

Which Minilogue is it that channels Radiohead? If it's Girl from Botany Bay I have some serious relistening to do...

mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

Minilogue, The Leopard - much better than Botany Bay, pleasing, button-pushing, but goddammit i'm not as easy as this! there is a slight whiff of role memorization that rubs me up the wrong way.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

make that 'rote'. okay listening to side two now...

Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.discogs.com/release/518423


natedey (ndeyoung), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

The Leopard went from better than Botany Bay to rote? jeez. That's a switch and a half...

natedey (ndeyoung), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

side two is minimal trance. less-button are being pushed. it's a three ideas-for-one deal. it'd like to hear the b out and about at 7 a.m! But I still have a little "go on fuck it just like it already" feeling...

Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

nate, I didn't like Botany Bay much.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure about Minilogue either.

I couldn't really get into Botany Bay, it's pleasant but never really grabbed me, no genre tension, just pure trance.

The new one is......very nice, and the b-side gives a little tug on the brain but still did not make me go "wow amazing". Maybe good at 7 in the morning though yeah.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

okay, second listen (sorry about the running commentary here - I'll shut up once I get a narrow and unmovable set in stone fix on this forever). The Leopard heats up in the second half in the way I didn't notice before. two or three minutes of hypnotising niceness. Mix that bit in from 5mins in?

side two - Wolfgang Voigt vibes, just more relaxed and fun and time to yourself

Neither is as good as Thomas Schumacher's Rotor though!

Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

You can feel free to hold back a bit until there's a semi-legal way for mere mortals to actually purchase it too, I guess. Anticipation in lieu of y-s-i.

mike h. (mike h.), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Alright, I'm still really into Botany Bay and I can understand why you both wouldn't be, so The Leopard's descriptions sounds pretty enticing to me (hypnotizing niceness here i come).

natedey (ndeyoung), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Botany Bay at the 7:35 mark is genius

jergins (jergins), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, if minilogue was on bpitch you'd love it, you know it.

nebbesh (nebbesh), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

I am not really feeling The Leopard. Its ok, possibly even quite good, but has this unescapable James Holden progressive house feel about it. Its got that same kind of moving deep bass line with a bubbling melodic layer on top thats typical of Border Community. Its 12.30am here, so unfortunatley I can't really crank it and see if it has more appeal.

Seconds the B-side has a nice dripping noise and a stronger build with some good trance type peak. I agree with the Dog here, I'd like to hear it early on a Sunday morning.

rchinn (rchinn), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

I think that ILM in general coasts too much on the whole "it reminds me of progressive house, ergo it's crap" argument (this isn't aimed at you Richard as you're specifying it's Holden himself that you have an issue with; I've seen the argument used in a more of a trump card manner in other threads). It ignores the fact that some progressive house, even late period progressive house (Sasha's "Xpander" represent) was great.

If we're going to use the comparison negatively it's more meaningful to say - "this reminds me of the worst/most mediocre aspects of progressive house and here's why..."

Otherwise, the obvious answer is, "yeah, isn't it great how Border Community etc. have wrung something so great from the cooling corpse of a genre that seemed creatively exhausted????"

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 9 May 2006 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

Tim pretty much OTM, I think a lot of progressive can be great if used sparingly, and it can work especially well for peak-time stuff or late night, airy stuff (check out the latest Kiki mix, where he adds in that Guy Gerber anthem on Bedrock so smoothly.) But I can understand people's resistance, its definitely hit creative stagnation hard in the early part of the decade, combined with a growing omnipresence in mainstream clubs.

I am amused how many times in this thread Good Dog has flip-flopped (or should that be plip-plopped?) his initial opinion of tracks.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

I want to defend the "hating on progressive" viewpoint actually. Genres are fluid and they become what their purchasers demand - witness the difference between dnb now and dnb 10 years ago.

Progressive house is a byword for sexless, plodding, 12 minute tracks that go nowhere precisely because that's what the fans and djs of the genre demanded. In particular, what the fuck is up with the drums on progressive house tracks? That clunky lurch that sounds like a garage beat ground down by 20 years as a car salesman which nobody's body moves naturally to and congas that sound as if they're being played by an actuary with muscle wasting disease. It's like the antithesis of rhythmic excitement.

Ultimately it's dance music for boring people who don't terribly like to dance. If you've been to see John Digweed play in the UK you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Audiences are important to scenes - a good audience feeds a scene and makes it alive. I dread the presence of a progressive house audience at minimal clubs for precisely this reason.

What made (makes?) minimal fun was the bite and snap in the rhythms and the unpredicability of the sounds and track structure, neither of which were typical of progressive. If you take those elements out of minimal i.e. if you make the progressions logical (minilogue) versus unexpected (my my, eulberg) then you have progressive house.

Yes of course it's stupid to be absolutist and claim that there were no decent progressive tracks EVER but even the legendarily even-handed Mr Finney would have to admit that huge proportions of this genre sucked absolute ass and that the things which drove this scene and this style of music are by and large negative conservative forces (the audience) and deeply mediocre musicians.

Therefore it's a pretty acceptable shorthand to say "progressive house" as a negative comparison because 90% of the time it's TRUE. Even the attempts at boosting its rep on this thread amount to little more than "occasionally, if a dj plays just one track, and chooses it well, it might be ok".

Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

I think most of us would be inclined to agree, but it really doesn't take much to make these same arguments against minimal! (eg it's dance music for people who don't dance, the majority of stuff out there is crap, the music's been shaped heavily by its high demand, they all use the same drum kit sounds, etc)

We may all have (common/edgy) preferences, but we don't have truth.


Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 05:44 (nineteen years ago)

But Jacob that's exactly what I wanted - a more complete look at why the link between prog house and any given minimal track might be a bad thing.

I don't necessarily agree about Minologue being especially linear (at least based on "The Girl From Botany Bay") and certainly Holden at his absolute best (the "Safari" remix) is kind of the opposite of linear.

And then of course there's all sorts of minimal and other (non prog house) dance music that we could also describe as being hyper linear as well - is Superpitcher a problem too?

So presumably what "prog house" stands in for when we use it as a negative point of comparison is a convergence of different factors, e.g. (hasty list):

- linearity of groove and fear of song structure (not necessarily the same as a fear of vocals or song-remixes - obviously there's a lot of prog house remixes of pop songs, vocal house etc.)
- limited, synthetic-but-familiar sound palette
- straightforward 4/4 rhythms, and a purging of funk/disco influence
- a fear of overt abrasion
- an over-reliance on very standard notions of build-up and breakdown, and general DJ-toolsisation
- a privileging of the expression of a certain type of anthemic-but-restrained emotionalism, perhaps with a slightly mournful quality

I gues the sonic conservativism of prog house as a whole lies in the way that all (or the overwhelming majority) of these factors are usually adhered to by any given prog house track - and I'll admit that generally speaking I don't like prog house.

Conversely, Booka Shade's "In White Rooms", my favourite track of 2006 so far, arguably adheres to every one of the above factors (with the caveat that it's far too short). So I have to take into account that even this convergence which I am otherwise decrying can produce music which I not only consider to be great, but near-perfect. Having said that, I can't imagine that everyone in the minimal scene suddenly trying to produce their own version of "In White Rooms" would be a good thing. But then what I like about this broad amorphous genre is that there never seems to be a moment where everyone is trying to make the same track.

For what it's worth, to me Border Community stuff doesn't appear to take the requirements above too much to heart. And it's also worth noting that the people making this music are people who are by and large moving further and further away from their prog house/trance roots. And while you might argue that the rest of the minimal scene is moving towards them, as I noted earlier there is definitely a counter-movement of people moving closer to some sort of minimal percussive deep house.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 06:30 (nineteen years ago)

Minimal percussive deep house:

Follow you remix
"Serpentine"
Audio Werner
Old perlon
Some villalobos
Luciano

=awesome

Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 07:06 (nineteen years ago)

"Serpentine" is much harder than I expected it to be!

Jacob I was thinking today that the Guido Schneider/recent Luciano/Serafin/Tobi Neumann/Jay Haze/Prosumer axis is a bit like they were all sitting round at Ricardo's place one day listening to Taka Taka, and the Brother's Vibe/Elevations mash-up bit came on, and simultaneously there was this big lightbulb above the table and they all said in unison: "holy shit, we can make a whole genre out of this!"

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 08:35 (nineteen years ago)

can someone please recommend me some brother's vibe? i know i heard some once that blew my mind, but the two records i heard at hardwax yesterday left me a bit "meh".... sounded much more like standard deep, tribalish house than what i remembered hearing whenever i first heard them.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 08:39 (nineteen years ago)


xpost

Well the demand is there. I saw Miss Kittin last weekend and response to the growly midrange overkill techno tracks was muted, but everytime there was a complex conga-esque pattern or hous-y snares people went nuts. It's a way of bringing a bit of femininity back to this scene, which is definitely needed.

Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 08:40 (nineteen years ago)

I popped into my first progressive house night ever the other night (Digweed). Except for Hale Bopp and Gebrunn Gebrunn, the music was 100% really awful.

This opinion not subject to change!

Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

I don't hate on prog as such, not at all.

However I find tracks boring if there is not some kind of push and pull going on between prog and something else.

I find Holden interesting, Minilogue sort of boring so far.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 09:36 (nineteen years ago)

Yo. I want to clarify about my use of the progressive tag in describing Minilogue - The Leopard. My dissapointment with the track was that it didn't do much, and what it did do was something I already associate with James Holden.

I used to love prog. Especially Holden (horizons, pistol whip, i have put out the light, bloodlock etc). I agree Border Community have done really well to escape the death of the genre, as well as produce some really great trance, with the problems of that label as well. So far I like their tracks more than Botany Bay or The Leopard.

The interesting thing is to what degree can progressive style sounds comeback and to which audience. I agree that Guy Gerber's Stoppage Time is excellently used in Kiki's Boogybytes. It hits the bPitch crowd, and boring old Digweed heads start to get the new stuff a bit better too.

Unfortunately Minilogue, coming out on Traum is not the Eulberg, Ananda, Hacke stuff I love or look out for on that label. Minilogue so far to me is well executed new-prog, which is not so interesting as well executed minimal house.

rchinn (rchinn), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 10:42 (nineteen years ago)

In particular, what the fuck is up with the drums on progressive house tracks? It's like the antithesis of rhythmic excitement.

OTM. Love the easy-to-feel synth lines, abhor the lack of rhythmic invention. Down with perfunctory percussion loops, whatever the genre.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Minilogue so far to me is well executed new-prog, which is not so interesting as well executed minimal house.

Agreed...but DAMMIT IT FEELS SO GOOD.

trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Sessions - Mixed by Josh Wink

Found this in the mail today. Sort of Minimal Bobbins for Dummies but really enjoyable. And I really like how the second cd goes into Millsian Bobbins for the last 20-30 minutes or so.

Omar (Omar), Saturday, 13 May 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

How is the Mathew Jonson - Higher State of Consciousness remix, Omar?

Good Dog (Good Dog), Saturday, 13 May 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

For awhile it sounds like every other Mat Jonson track/remix and then the building acid-bit gets woven into it. I don't know after one listen if it really works.

Omar (Omar), Saturday, 13 May 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

too bad :( but come to think of it his remixes are nowhere near as good as his original stuff. he mentioned in an interview how hard he found it to pull something apart and piece it back together again. maybe his setup or process is not too compatible with remixing: tinkering around with lots of analogue gear from the bottom up and not working much samples.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Saturday, 13 May 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

come to think of it his remixes are nowhere near as good as his original stuff.

I agree. It almost sounds like what you expect a Zombie Bikers Return To A Higer State Of Consciousness bootleg would sound like. ;)

Omar (Omar), Saturday, 13 May 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

The new Monolake 12" - Alaska is great. Much more dancefloor compatible than Mr Henke's normal stuff.

jng (jng), Saturday, 13 May 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

hey y'all - i've got a mix i did on the radio a couple weeks ago that's available for download -- it's not the best quality (96 kbps AAC) but it doesn't sound too bad. it's also got all the voiceovers intact -- just like a regular radio show -- so be forewarned. you can get it here.
tracklist:

?? : ?? (revelee remix)
Catwash : Mohawke Dreams : Catwash
Ananda’s Bass Machinchen : Take Off : Triebstoff
Alex Under : El Diluvio Azul (Fe En Erratas EP) : Trapez
Colcut feat. Roots Manuva : True Skool (Switch rmx) : Ninja Tune
John Dahlbäck : Pop It Bad (Agoria rmx) : Craft Music
John Dahlbäck : Power 1 (Ozgur Can rmx) : Giant Wheel
Pan/Tone : Under The Influence : Sender
Misc : Frequenztraeger (Pan-Pot rmx) : Sender
The Shock : Manhattan : Boxer Sport
Robert Babicz Battlestar : Punkt
Black Strobe : Nazi Trance Fuck Off (James Holden rmx) : Crosstown Rebels promo
John Tejada : The End Of It All : Pallette
Jona : The Learnings : Get Physical

hope you dig it.

something less threatening (heywood), Saturday, 13 May 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

Kompakt Kittens

blunt (blunt), Saturday, 13 May 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

Butane 12-inch w/next, how low can you go is out now. this is originally from 2005, but I think was only out as promo then. anyway, great great minimal, trancey house

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 15 May 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

wasn't How Low Can You Go on On The Ket [Dumb Unit]? It's an excellent track though, hardly any rhythm and lots of tone which makes it very mixable with rhythmic stuff with no tune.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

Tim's (x)post is great, some comfort I think.

I've been heavily disheartened with (from my probably erroneous vantage point) what seems like the direction of minimal/electrohouse/nu-proggish bobbins lately, it all seems incredibly safe and uninteresting right now to me.

Bpitch (aside from the CD output) feeling way off form atm isn't helping me retain much enthusiasm. I'm feeling the need to finally get over my house prejudices (hugely in retreat for a few years now anyway) but not sure where to turn for a short, sharp education :(

I really don't feel the need for any more acidy stuff so I'm not keen to go the archive chicago route. I have the Herbert & Soulphiction albums in the post but I doubt they'll count... I'm not keen on most "deep house" (esp. real/funky/jazzy/"soulful") I've heard but this could be bullheadedness talking... What are some suggestions for just a good, rough, jacking, type of all-round decent house mix (or even album) (gospelly and/or pop-house touches fine also!) that could make me feel not so blase about shit in general?

I guess I'm thinking roots stuff, not Theo/Moodymann or other stuff known for being hip or otherwise outre and technically tweaked out. Although I could imagine the Carl Craig fabric mix maybe being worth picking up for this?

Also have this odd urge to pick up a Miss Kittin mix or something else electroclash-y (I've never quite managed to think Electrohouse is the bees knees for some reason aside from stuff which either pre-dates it or doesn't really feel like the same thing to me... I think it's the cokiness somehow).

This post is TOTALLY in the wrong thread, but thanks for having me, I didn't want to start a new one with this BS rambling.

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 05:26 (nineteen years ago)

Carl Craig Fabric mix is ace!

type of all-round decent house mix (or even album) (gospelly and/or pop-house touches fine also!) that could make me feel not so blase about shit in general?

Ha! I got the thing for you: DJ Deep presents City To City part 2

Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 06:34 (nineteen years ago)

I'd heartily second the Carl Craig Fabric mix!

Have you checked out any of the stuff on Philpot Fandango?

jng (jng), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 07:18 (nineteen years ago)

The first disc of Damian Lazarus and Matt Styles' Get Lost is totally minimal goth bobbins. It's too chilly to love on first listen, but I'll report back after a few more (plus disc two, which has Position Normal on it!). Ost & Kjex's "How Not To Be A Biscuit" is an awesome fake-Holden track.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 08:42 (nineteen years ago)

but come to think of it his remixes are nowhere near as good as his original stuff

Have your heard: Hiem - She's The One (Circles In Time Remix By Mathew Jonson) on Crosstown Rebels??

I think it's the best thing Mathew Johnson has done.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

yeah the mathew jonson hiem remix rocks!

i have yet to hear his higher state of consciousness remix but i really want to.

the swayzak remix he did a few years ago is really good as well.

geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

yes, i have. i do quite like that one. the m. jonson bassline and the original suit each other nicely.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

What are some suggestions for just a good, rough, jacking, type of all-round decent house mix (or even album) (gospelly and/or pop-house touches fine also!) that could make me feel not so blase about shit in general?

kerri chandler - trionosphere live!!!

FLOWING STRAIGHT FROM THE SURVIVAL SCROLL (vahid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

in no way minimal at all, though!

FLOWING STRAIGHT FROM THE SURVIVAL SCROLL (vahid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

also i would really recommend checking out doc martin's "fabric 10" (tim f can get my back on that one).

and how about the FREAKS? there are several good mixes out right now ... someone already mentioned the johnny rock + matt styles mix "see you @ the party", but i really prefer justin harris' new mix on KSR (look it up on discogs) and if you can track it down i REALLY recommend grabbing a copy luke solomon's "somemorefreakystuff".

what else ... hmmm ... well, there's several recent editions of ministry of sound's "sessions" that look nice. dj sneak and derrick carter!

FLOWING STRAIGHT FROM THE SURVIVAL SCROLL (vahid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah that Doc Martin Fabric Mix is great, though only jacking really in the second half, and there only in parts.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

TIM I GOT YR PACKAGE ... i will send comments by email but "6:33 am eternal" is INCREDIBLE.

FLOWING STRAIGHT FROM THE SURVIVAL SCROLL (vahid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Ace! It was partly inspired by yr Back to Mine which I've listened to heaps - i'd already done a rough version but switched up the tracklisting in a fit of comp envy.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

For JACKING, I highly recommend the Tribal Gathering Presents 10th Anniversary @ Sankeys Soap double mix-cd by Greg Vickers and Krysko.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Also Brett Johnson's Business As Usual mix on Classic.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

it's a bit deeper and classier but I've also been playing the hell out of the Basic Recordings Early Hours mix by Next Evidence. So much great Julien Jabre!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, tribal gathering seconded! i know ronan hates him but a paul woolford fabric mix is U+K.

FLOWING STRAIGHT FROM THE SURVIVAL SCROLL (vahid), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Minilogue channeling Radiohead is definitely pretty cool.

I think natedey meant Certain Things Around You Part 2 when he posted this...Botany Bay has no Radiohead in it.

trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

I don't mind Woolford too much! I just don't really like stuff like "Erotic Discourse" or his 20/20 Vision stuff. I didn't really get the hype for "Erotic Discourse".

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

change of subject... who knows anything about this chicago (?) label Underground Quality.... melchior played me a few tracks and they sounded good. raw, basic, well functional, a bit moody....

also really feeling the new sun god EP on Jack-FM (i think that's the label).

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

xposts - thanks for all the suggestions! Will get round to checking them out asap. It's not like I was ever totally allergic to house, just that when looking over my records I begin feel a bit embarrased at the glaring imbalance between things 5% house-ish vs. 95% tech/electro/'ronica (and of course twice as much other stuff which is none of these two things).

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

that brett johnson mix on classic is really good.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 00:37 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone into the new Matt John EP? I like hologramm a lot.

hector (hector), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 03:08 (nineteen years ago)

haven't heard it yet! the matt john remix of alex smoke's "meany" is on heavy rotation though.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 04:40 (nineteen years ago)

Bpitch [...] feeling way off form atm

I dunno about this now, Listening to some seemingly neverending (many hours) Ellen mix and the Sascha Funke & Smash TV records stand out quite a bit in the company of the other stuff! I'm just kinda concerned that what Bpitch are doing lately (minimal trancey electro with damn near all the randomness stripped off) still feels like playing catchy-uppy, and still feels a little generic (as in will I care about the new stuff in 6 months time even?) I guess things are changing all around in Berlin but if Modeselektor start putting out gentle minimal anthems next it's probably all over! And "Queen Of Men" > "Air/Earth or Yellow Asteroids" by some distance quite obviously. However much leeway I'll give them for transitioning their sound right now.

fandango (fandango), Thursday, 18 May 2006 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

i posted that matt john track up on my blog breakfast pants (if that is your real name(artist formerly known as tricky disco)

http://blacknoise.blogspot.com

check it. Some of the more recent minimal sounding stuff feels very meditative to me and I count this as one of those.

hector (hector), Friday, 19 May 2006 00:17 (nineteen years ago)

wow that is a great track! my chakras are now aligned in a haunted house type of fashion.

i am really into the way some of the recent minimal tracks use melodic hooks in a very sparing yet effective way. 64 bars and then a 2 bar hook to create a slight build; repeat. it is the exact opposite of the way most house music works.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Friday, 19 May 2006 04:15 (nineteen years ago)

"i am really into the way some of the recent minimal tracks use melodic hooks in a very sparing yet effective way."

I know its sick! It just strings you along grabbing and tugging. If you head up to the links on my site check out OH MY GOSH. He has been on a bit of a trance kick for a while but he usually posts some quality minimal stuff.

I am highly anticipating the new minus collection out this month. http://www.m-nus.com/ probably not too much on the melodic side but still tasty.

hector (hector), Friday, 19 May 2006 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

"Ost & Kjex's "How Not To Be A Biscuit" is an awesome fake-Holden track. "

I got an e-mail from Kjex asking me who Holden is!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

Their "Exterminate" tune is worth checking too. has some house noises that haven't been used in a long time!

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

or is it "kjexterminate"? but yeah, really interesting tune, I wish there were more just odd sounding techno-pop acts out there

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yes "Kjexterminate"!

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 19 May 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Okay it's proggy as hell but i'm loving the Minilogue mix of Jaia's "Orchestra 2.0"! Prog producers wish they were this good. When is this from?

Also the Villalobos remix of Senor Coconut's "Behind the Mask" is totally charming: weird and disorienting like the "Let We Go" remix and then all rinky-dinky and perky. Villalobos is maybe the only dance producer where I often think "I hope he records with a big live band on his next album".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

But my favourite track at the moment is Boogie Drama's suitably titled "Dancing in the Darkness". What an anthem! Donnacha Costello remix is good also.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

The Carl Craig and Basic Channel remixes of R&S on SMY Remixes #4 excite me.

jng (jng), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

The Carl Craig and Basic Channel remixes

whoaah [faints]

Omar (Omar), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

"SMY Remixes #4"


SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET

and yes having all those ee's is justified. It all starts with an e

hector (hector), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

[wakes up] ah, probably can't live up to it, can it now? Even though Craig is on fire.

Omar (Omar), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

the scsi-9 album has to be amazing, surely.

danny invincible (michael w.), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

!OMFG @ "basic reshape"

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

k, so there's really a 12" out with a c. criag & an !OMFG basic reshape of rhythm & sound? looks like i need to get searching.

michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

a percussive, minimal remix of Depeche Mode's 'The Sinner In Me' has been doing the rounds, anyone know who it's by? Villalobos has been playing it out for at least 3 months -- was in his last two Fabric sets and the mp3 of his Feb Voltt set, c 81 min -- but it seems too linear/simple to his own work. Tobi Neumann played it at Fabric too...

(the original is horrific, dl'ing it = a somewhat scarring experience)

a (rslvd), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 01:33 (nineteen years ago)

That See Mi Yah remix is up on Juno

jeffery (jeffery), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

There's also a CD coming soon collecting all the See Mi Yah remixes:

http://basicchannel.com/item/BMXD-1

Telephonething (Telephonething), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

That cd is going to be great. I have both the Craig and Basic Reshape and almost think I like the Basic better, although the Craig is great.

hector (hector), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:17 (nineteen years ago)

that carl craig remix of 'poor people must work' on SMY #4 totally rules!

geeta (geeta), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

There's also a CD coming soon collecting all the See Mi Yah remixes

Ha! i was hoping for one. Very handy.

Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 07:00 (nineteen years ago)

I said upthread:

"Okay it's proggy as hell but i'm loving the Minilogue mix of Jaia's "Orchestra 2.0"! Prog producers wish they were this good. When is this from?"

I've been listening to this constantly. I'm all for being a neo-progservative if it sounds this good (although really it's more like Gabriel Ananda at his most blatantly anthemic than "The Girl From Botany Bay")

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 07:41 (nineteen years ago)

The Popnoname 12 inch on Firm is great - based on my in-store listen anyway. I must pick it up. It's like if Heiko Voss's "Call Me Killer" release had been really good. Odd weird pop songs become churning tech stompers.

Strange to see Schaeben & Voss doing a schaffel remix though! But it's not glammy so (as per Trentemoller's "Killer Kat") they get away with it.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 06:18 (nineteen years ago)

... Oops, turns out it's over a year old! It's just appeared in multiple copies at my local record store though...

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 06:19 (nineteen years ago)

Carl Craig Remix of R&S is awesome - although sounds a bit like a techy remix of "French Kiss!"

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 11 June 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

that depeche mode mix is in fact ricardo's.
any MP3s of those fabric sets up anywhere?

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Sunday, 11 June 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

nope. someone needs to raid their DAT archive...

a (rslvd), Monday, 12 June 2006 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

and thanks!

a (rslvd), Monday, 12 June 2006 03:21 (nineteen years ago)

i bought the "profan kompakt no 1" comp last night.

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 03:23 (nineteen years ago)

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 12 June 2006 04:00 (nineteen years ago)

The Heiko Voss Call Me Killer EP was ace, in that it had "Call Me Now" on it.

The new Eulberg on Traum has one really nice motorik type thing on it. Also really really feeling "Father" by Luciano and Thomas Melchior (alot more than the lords prayer one on the flip), nice ten minute loop, the Dandyjack remix of Pier Bucci's "Tita" is better than the leaked Eulberg one, really enjoying that at the moment.

The new Extrawelt on Kompass is also pretty cool, if a little typical for them. Also Kaliber-Kaliber 002 is some mystery Swedish producer and sounds a bit like Anja Schneider on a slightly more electroey tip.

Matt John's 12 "Behind The Atoms", on Underline, is also pretty brilliant.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 12 June 2006 10:29 (nineteen years ago)

jacktronix on antipop records
'youngboy sextoy'

'i was a young boy
i was her sex toy
she was a desperate housewife'

this is amazing aahaha!!!!!

nique (nique), Sunday, 18 June 2006 23:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh manb I cringed when I heard that and hoped no one would bring it up on this thead!

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 18 June 2006 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

Locodice - "Seeing through shadows" = best m_nus in ages - lacks the "so what" factor.

Also is another "minimal bongo" record. Definitely a mini-genre in the offing.

Jacob (Jacob), Monday, 19 June 2006 01:41 (nineteen years ago)

Yay minimal bongo! I haven't heard "Seeing Through Shadows" yet but everything i've read makes it sound awesome.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 19 June 2006 04:19 (nineteen years ago)

Jacob said "best m_nus in ages - lacks the "so what" factor."

Actually I gotta say that I've hard the Heartthrob (very nice), Gaiser, Magda, Marc Houle, and Locodice tracks off min2MAX and excepting the Gaiser, none of them were "so what." I even thought I liked the Gaiser initially but later found myself really not caring about it. It seems like a pretty strong release based on the tracks I've heard, though. I'll definitely be picking it up.

matt2 (matt2), Monday, 19 June 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

goofiest minimal release of the year so far: Moritz Piske - Ein Känguruh im Klubraum

i really hope the Circus Company school of stripped down hyper-bouncy bass lines + nonsense/cutup vocals will catch on soon :D

fez (fez), Monday, 19 June 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, i really like Seeing Through Shadows & b-side - excellent stuff. I was surprised this was on M_nus a bit, only somewhat related to their sound this time around.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Monday, 19 June 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

I thought the Moritz Piske was a little bit too hard. Liking the following alot

Excercise One-Debaya (Mobilee)
Rekleiner-The State Of Things (Hemann and Kaden Mix) (Connaisseur)
Jack Kilby-Integrated Circuit (Sixty Four)
Codec and Flexor-Do What You Want (Woody's Fumakilla Deep Freeze Mix) (Kitty Cuts)

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 19 June 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

moritz piske = solid groove, minus funk, minus flavor

renegade bear shot by cops on frat row (vahid), Monday, 19 June 2006 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

soulphiction - masai mara

i haven't really liked any of their 12"s since 'get it right' on perlon but this is primo late night ecstatic summer music that on a good soundsystem totally engulfs you. best snare of the year so far too.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 19 June 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

Actually the goofiest release of the year has to Und - "Rodeo" which is cowboy themed apart from "fox in a box" which is nonsense themed.

Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 06:29 (nineteen years ago)

"fox in the box, let me tell you bout the shit in the fridge" - obv. some deep thinking going on at Traum

Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

the crowdpleaser remix of "rodeo" is absolutely fucking fantastic...

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

that luciano / melchior b-side is incredible

lf (lfam), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

prefer side A (the one that's not on Sci.Fi.Hi.Fi)

a (rslvd), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

i can't get over the cadence of the vocals in 'father,' the way it slips back and forth between sing-songy speech and chanting. also, the fact that the vocoder effects aren't screaming "DON'T I SOUND AWESOME?!" at you.

this might be the first piece of new music i buy in a while.

lf (lfam), Thursday, 22 June 2006 02:08 (nineteen years ago)

It's a Kompakt Pool Party!

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Who gets to rub the gents down with SPF 30? (Wouldn't want 'em to get rid of their endearingly pale complexions, now would we?)

Zimmer026 (Zimmer026), Thursday, 22 June 2006 02:33 (nineteen years ago)

why the long face?

lf (lfam), Thursday, 22 June 2006 03:19 (nineteen years ago)

that luciano / melchior b-side is incredible

I thought I gave you this a few months ago...did I, or am I nuts? (PS-- i'm on 3-4 pm today on wobc)

trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 22 June 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

new Bastien Grine "Step Back" is pretty good - very sleek (as was his last), efficient, makes no bad steps. If anything, this is a little more stripped down than his first 12-inch, which is fine with me.

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 22 June 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

The new Kalkbrenner is Very good for all the same reasons.

natedey (ndeyoung), Friday, 23 June 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

oh, i had the names on the solomon's prayer 12" mixed up. good thing i decided to buy a copy.

lf (lfam), Monday, 26 June 2006 05:13 (nineteen years ago)

in y'alls opinion, what's the most essential mix cd so far this 6 months? I've not heard much that was really great - the luciano got old pretty fast... Only other contender was "pass your bedtime".

Jacob (Jacob), Monday, 26 June 2006 05:32 (nineteen years ago)

I quite like the Hawtin "DE9 lite" mix.. Maybe not essential but contains such greatness as Audio Werner, Sebo K and Alex Under. It also has "Seeing Through Shadows" which I don't enjoy so much, it's possibly something that needs to be heard loud in a club for full enjoyment?

My favourite record at the moment is Hemmann and Kaden - "Roll In Moll".

Bn1 (Bn1), Monday, 26 June 2006 06:04 (nineteen years ago)

I like Phil Stumpf, because he is cute, and because he made "Du Kannst Nicht Tanzen" which anyone can tell you is a classic little track, and because he put together a fabulous DJ mix here.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 26 June 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Dunno about y'alls, but for mix CDs it's Kiki - Boogy Bytes Vol.1 for me by some distance. Though I like Luciano's mix. Feels very representative of his actual DJ-ing style.

fandango (fandango), Monday, 26 June 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

I love Kiki's mix as well, that opening track is bliss.

Jena (JenaP), Monday, 26 June 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

I can't find Kiki's mix anywhere :-(

I like Sascha Funke's though

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 05:25 (nineteen years ago)

That Kiki mix is solid all the way through, I still play it frequently. I find that Luciano mix (Sci.Fi. vol2, I presume) impenetrable, it gives me a headache.

willem -- (willem), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 05:34 (nineteen years ago)

yes kiki's boogybytes 1 is incredible.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 06:52 (nineteen years ago)

I agree, solid is an understatement. And a dull adjective that doesn't do the mix justice. 'Cause it takes you places, it's a 72 minute rollercoaster ride where gravity is defeated by the most glorious of centrifugal forces.

willem -- (willem), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 07:58 (nineteen years ago)

I've been listening to Sami Koivikko's Hot Pepper a lot recently, after forgetting about it for a while. It's so good, the first couple of tracks especially, utterly compressed but unadultered funk. I can't believe he hasn't had an officially released mix-cd yet.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 08:03 (nineteen years ago)

Hot Pepper is the one that starts with Oliver Hacke's "21:31", right? Such a sexy track. Yes, Koivikko should release a mix. On the other hand, as long as he puts them up on his site...

willem -- (willem), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 08:09 (nineteen years ago)

Tim if you weren't in Australia(?) I'd just say order it from bpitch :/ but I guess that postage will sting.

Poor Sascha, don't think he stood a chance of beating it. Finally got BB Vol. 2, still not certain if I'm that fussed about it though (more listens).

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 09:07 (nineteen years ago)

The best thing about Boogie Bytes for me is the way Kiki deploys those swooshing noises during the transitions between tracks on the first half of the mix. They hit my rush receptors dead on. Also, the way everything layers so beatifully becuase he mixes in-key.

jng (jng), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 09:29 (nineteen years ago)

Haha - I've just realised that both of those techniques are actually pretty standard in prog-house mixes.

jng (jng), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 09:32 (nineteen years ago)

yay for the swoosh! Luciano does a lot of knob tweaking like that which seems to add something, though he's more like tiny swoosh... clop clop clop, wiggle. SOrry, just thought I'd share (the fact I know Sweet FA about mix technique...).

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 09:48 (nineteen years ago)

There's a great new live set from Sam Koivikko, I think its the only one up now. Similarly hard funk. Is the first track sampling composer Arnold Dreyblatt?

Eugene (eupal), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

I also love love that Kiki Mix. Not so much minimal as bombastic at times, but very exciting sounding.

[Ronan, did you get my email from the other day?]

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

There's a great new live set from Sam Koivikko...

you mean it is released somehow?? or it's just around the net somewhere?
i have sami's live from moscow, it's like the best music in the world!

michael, what's so bad about that sextoy track of jacktronix? i heard it only once and i don't remember it at all bar the fabulous lyrics. what exactly made you cringe?

nique (nique), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Guido Schnieder's Removed is pretty cool as is the most recent mobillee

Exercise one - Flight Cancelled

I am still not sold on the most recent coccoon comp. The Pier Bucci track is starting to grow on me. Very druggy sound.

hector (hector), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Nique, I couldn't get past the "desperate housewives" line/reference in both the song and the promo blurb. But truthfully, I only heard it once.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

desperate housewife - it's the truth of life!

has it been discussed here how great isolee - western story edits - side d (dixon edit) is?

nique (nique), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

at first i was underwhelmed by dixon's bleu edit but once i grew to love the original i started to appreciate how dixon changed the mood by so deftly bringing the heavy kick before everything else.

lf (lfam), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

Sam Koivikko - live in helsinki, its on his website..

Eugene (eupal), Thursday, 29 June 2006 06:33 (nineteen years ago)

I love both of the Western Edits records. I think Villalobos interpretation of 'I Owe You' is the strongest cut; I listened to it in my car nonstop for a week.

Regarding the comment about Kiki mixing in key: are there many minimal or electrohouse DJs doing this? I've been very interested in harmonic mixing lately; I recently started logging the keys all of my tunes and taking a more structured approach in my sets.

jeffery (jeffery), Thursday, 29 June 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

i would be interested in hearing that

lf (lfam), Thursday, 29 June 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

holden denotes his keys as well, though it gets less useful if you're pitching far up or down. (though i suppose if holden's DJing w/ CDs, he can use that pitch correction feature). ideally, mixing in tune can be intuitive - if you grab two records and they sound *wrong* harmonically, for god's sake don't use them. but of course the real joy is when you discover - either through chance or actual planning - that two records complement each other perfectly, tonally speaking, so you can really play with swapping basslines and fucking with counterpoints. i rarely prepare assiduously enough to guarantee those kinds of results, but there are "packs" of records i always play together simply because i've discovered, generally by sheer dint of luck, that they're all equally keyed.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Thursday, 29 June 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

I sometimes wish I was more musical sometimes so I could identify keys.

Usually I avoid the harmony clashes of course, I guess alot of records are mixed before the notes come in, or some kind of interlock anyway.

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

I've always tried to mix in key through trial and error, I don't have the musical background to sit down at a piano and figure out the key of a given song. I do the same "pack" thing as Philip: often I'll have pairs or trios of tunes set aside that work together and then I piece the "packs" together to build a set.

Then a couple of weeks ago I found this: http://www.mixedinkey.com. I started messing around with it in conjunction with my Ableton and Serato rigs and it's like a web of connections between tunes that I had only glimpsed before has been revealed. The software doesn't always get the key right, so you still have to put in some work, but it's still pretty amazing stuff.

jeffery (jeffery), Thursday, 29 June 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

Mixing in key often sounds too fussy to me, I'm a big fan of clunking atonal clashes, but I guess it's not to everyone's taste.

Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Friday, 30 June 2006 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

and has it been discussed here how great Soda Inc. - 'Inner Vision' is?

the music and the lyrics! very nice. inspiring and deep

nique (nique), Friday, 30 June 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

New TBA Empty CD "Stupid Rotation" on Brinkmann's Max Ernst is hot stuff.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 30 June 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

HOLY FUCK

er, i mean, a cd? very good, good news that

fez (fez), Friday, 30 June 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

it's written in books on harmony that atonal clashes add drama to the music
and they really do!

nique (nique), Friday, 30 June 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

While we're (mostly) on the mix CD topic, does anyone else like Triple R's "Interkontinental 5"? I find it a little dry, a little boring even...but maybe that's cos Boogybytes (1 and 2) are both so much fun.
It's weird: Luciano's "Live at weetamix" is one of my favorite live sets / mix CDs, but I can't, for the life of me, get into his Sci Fi Hi Fi mix. It feels like such a cold fish.

paulhw (paulhw), Friday, 30 June 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't think much of Interkontinental either, for what its worth.

track ID please. Ryan Elliot started his Sonar set with this total stunner of a track. the lyrics:

get closer
get closer to your best friend
this is my mind touch
don't believe the hype touch
get closer to a friend
you will know it better finally

Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 30 June 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

i listened to the Western Story Edits thing on bleep earlier, but i just couldn't get into it enough to wanna buy it. disappointing because i thought edited versions would suit me better. but i guess i just don't get this.

do you think i would like the Kiki mix tho?

Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 30 June 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

There's sound clips of every track on the Kiki mix over here. I think you'd like it Steve, although it probably belongs on the electro bobbins page more than here.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 1 July 2006 00:07 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone else like Triple R's "Interkontinental 5"?

Love it! Such great summer music and way better than 4.

Omar (Omar), Saturday, 1 July 2006 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

The new Hemann and Kaden on Freude Am Tamzen is really really brilliant. Definitely one of my favourites so far this year.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 2 July 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

No mention of Eulberg's Bionik yet? This might be my record of the year so far, there's something about the bassline that just does it for me. Festival techno!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 10 July 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

thanks for the top, matt. i didn't know it existed. Cocoon + Eulberg = promising

Good Dog (Good Dog), Monday, 10 July 2006 23:06 (nineteen years ago)

er, thanx for the TIP

Good Dog (Good Dog), Monday, 10 July 2006 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

Oh my god "Bionik"! Someone has been listening to "Ihre Personliche Glucksmelodie" a lot!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

This is the album he talked about on the Slices DVD? Wait till Ambrose sees this thread :D

Must say he was way too crowdpleasing for my tastes when I saw him DJ... not that theres anything wrong with tranciness or Border Community , but going straight to that stuff as soon as you get started? Turned me off a bit.

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

is the Slices DVD in English?

Good Dog (Good Dog), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

really interested in G. Ananda this year, and listening to live mix of "Doppelwhipper" on miracel whop ep, is pretty nice. almost krautrocky, but w/very clean electro-ish sheen, and i'm a sucker for one-note patterns on synth

Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - The last one was overdubbed to English over German (and other languages) which is REALLY BLOODY HARD to listen to & follow properly. Can't stress that enough, what were they thinking?

Of course if you speak those other languages you can simply go to them in the menu.

The previous ones were subtitled, the newest one (which I have, but haven't watched yet) well, I hope that is as well!

fandango (fandango), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

"Seeing Through Shadows" is kind of amazing. I am pretty obsessed with it at the moment.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 14 July 2006 09:05 (nineteen years ago)

ok guys, ill just wait another 3 months for this to come out, whilst you all get to hear it now :(

but i didnt reall like that beetle one on traum, maybe thats an unpromising precedent?

bit late to the party but seeing through shadows is the second loco dice tune ive been into, after his m.o.r.d remix.... is he gonna break through just being mixmags pet dj to someone decent? i enjoyed his set last friday, but by the end i was too hammered to remember

ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 14 July 2006 09:10 (nineteen years ago)

His track on the m_nus compilation is pretty nice Ambrose.

I guess there was bound to be "beach minimal" eventually! I don't think it's an entirely bad development.

fandango (fandango), Friday, 14 July 2006 12:06 (nineteen years ago)

xpost-

I feel like beach minimal could be the best thing that could ever happen. But I guess that I think there are already some tracks that could fit into this category?

trees (treesessplode), Friday, 14 July 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

dear ronan,

i was going to write up the exercise one on mobilee this week but you made me start drooling for the pan-pot and especially the gummihz - when's the release date on the gummi?

natedey (ndeyoung), Friday, 14 July 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

The Gummihz came out in April iirc.

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Friday, 14 July 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

new gummihz on the way and it's a corker....

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Friday, 14 July 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

freakin' to the minimal version of fourtet - pockets. the a side ain't band either.

yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Friday, 14 July 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

yeah it's the new gummihz I reviewed, not sure of release date. phil otm, it is brilliant, one of the best mobilee's yet.

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 15 July 2006 09:42 (nineteen years ago)

New Eulberg album on Cocoon should be out in the Fall.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 16 July 2006 02:09 (nineteen years ago)

Syndikaat is my new 2nd favourite minimal label. badass music & kinky record sleeves!

ferzaffe (flezaffe), Monday, 17 July 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

eulberg signed to cocoon? whoa!

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Monday, 17 July 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

haha whats so 'whoa' about that

ferzaffe (flezaffe), Monday, 17 July 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

The new Eulberg on Traum...

is pretty sweet. A-side is some strange bliss.

trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 05:08 (nineteen years ago)

(ps-- know it isn't 'new' exactly. eh.)

trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 05:08 (nineteen years ago)

eulberg signed to cocoon? whoa!

haha whats so 'whoa' about that

Schmetterling - Cocoon? ;-)

willem -- (willem), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 05:35 (nineteen years ago)

um yeah

ladies and gentlemen, the annual Phictiv release is here, and its quality, as usual

ferzaffe (flezaffe), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

I'm really enjoying the Matt styles resident advisor mix - really, really hypnotic and housey, builds and builds...

http://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.asp?id=18

paulhw (paulhw), Monday, 24 July 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

This Guy Gerber record on Coccoon tore my head off at the record store. Must get.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 4 August 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)

Francois K goes minimal. Anyone heard this?

Although TBH I'm probably keener to hear Joe Claussell's Translate mix.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 August 2006 00:02 (nineteen years ago)

did you not get the memo, tim? francois has been minimal for 5 years now ...

it's ok. file under M for meh, w/ the new josh wink 2cd.

JABBA JABBA!! NIB NIB!! (vahid), Saturday, 5 August 2006 00:45 (nineteen years ago)

guy gerber = the only artist to ever pull of the cocoon / bedrock / twisted america hat trick??

"stoppage time" really belonged on that "essential tracks of the 00s" thread

JABBA JABBA!! NIB NIB!! (vahid), Saturday, 5 August 2006 00:47 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah but this one is (gasp) trendy minimal!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 August 2006 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm referring to the Francois K mix there by the way. I guess Guy Gerber has gone more trendy as well, but in brilliantly massive fashion.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 August 2006 01:13 (nineteen years ago)

The fact that Francois opens with that particular Audision track has me very interested.

Didn't realize he and May were also producing together.

Luis Skank Bloc Polonia (Andy_K), Saturday, 5 August 2006 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

Gerber's stoppage time was also on the Kiki mix on Bpitch! His track on the recent Cocoon comp is also great.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 5 August 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh this new Tobi Neumann mix on Coccoon looks amazing.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 August 2006 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

Could someone plz tell me what "bobbins" means exactly? Besides the thread thingies.

less-than three's Christiane F. (drowned in milk), Saturday, 5 August 2006 02:34 (nineteen years ago)

the latest villalobos / coconut remix is SO CHARMING, but in a really underhanded way. the lyrics, "There is nothing in your eye / that marks when you cry," so breathy, surrounded by marimbas and soft, cutting brass. i am reminded of what drew said about delay's r&s remix: "This inquiry beams through the smoke of a weirdly hip-house-esque party track, but leaves Freddy all alone with his question at the center.

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Saturday, 5 August 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

i mean, the question isn't stated here, but it is implied during listening.

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Saturday, 5 August 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

it's all about the cassy mix! the new cassy mix rules.

geeta (geeta), Saturday, 5 August 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

!!!

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 5 August 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

the cassy mix-CD, i mean. Panoramabar 01. it's one of my favorite mixes of the year, for sure.

geeta (geeta), Saturday, 5 August 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Yes

Luis Skank Bloc Polonia (Andy_K), Saturday, 5 August 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

lf, can i get that rmx from you at some point? s1sk appointment maybe.

trees (treesessplode), Saturday, 5 August 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

That senor coconut mix is maybe my favourite villalobos production this year, definitely my favourite of his remixes. Although I guess it's as much b/c of Senor Coconut as Ricardo - the way the "track" builds into the "song" is delightful.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 August 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

i think that new tobi neumann mix on cocoon has my favorite build/flow out of any commercially released mix i've heard this year. track selection is super nice too with all of those unreleased bits.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Saturday, 5 August 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

can't keep up w/ all the new minimal mixes ... all of my money is going into brian eno and tangerine dream reissues ... but am i right in assuming the two "boogybytes" are rather ... inessential??

JABBA JABBA!! NIB NIB!! (vahid), Saturday, 5 August 2006 23:19 (nineteen years ago)

can i just repeat this again???

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JABBA JABBA!! NIB NIB!! (vahid), Saturday, 5 August 2006 23:21 (nineteen years ago)

Lawrence - Along The Wire (Superpitcher Mix)

SUPERPITCHER GOES TRANCE!

Beautiful, his best thing since the Hell Remix, easily.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 August 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

there are too many minimal mixes, i agree! i was a bit shocked to see that francois k double cd thing. i picked up his last deep space nyc mix and the first half is okay, but then it just loses me. (and i like meandering weird mixes)

i think both boogybytes are skippable although they got a lot of ILM love. the funke one is really tight, but so whitewashed and perfect...

very excited about the cassy panoramabar mix. i suspect that it will be the embodiment of the is-it-or-is-it-not deep house discussion we had here.

xpost. i love solomon's remix of "leave my head alone brain". freaks do not get enough overground respect.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Saturday, 5 August 2006 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

"Beautiful, his best thing since the Hell Remix, easily"

that's high praise mr. finney!

breakfast pants (disco stu), Saturday, 5 August 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

Believe me!

I thought Pass Your Bedtime was a good example of the "is it or is it not deep house" quandary as well.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 5 August 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

yup. i was playing around today mixing dinky's "horizontal" with a herbert track and damn is that dinky track lovely; it moves and shakes and congas and exhorts in all of the right places. (it's the one that opens PYB) made my day actually.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Saturday, 5 August 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

The Kiki mix still fantastic IMO, although it's less "minimal" than a white hot streak of propulsive airy eurotrancehouse from first to last second.

It's nice to have the Sascha Funke mix, but it's only very good, not outstanding.

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 5 August 2006 23:44 (nineteen years ago)

I

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 5 August 2006 23:46 (nineteen years ago)

I should remember not to do that.

I :heart: Dinky. The last track on that 12" (Cabasa?) is an "is this minimal or is this good funky house??" track!

fandango (fandango), Saturday, 5 August 2006 23:47 (nineteen years ago)

definitely on the housier side things for sure.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Saturday, 5 August 2006 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

i need a minimum of bangin-ness to buy a mix CD. for some reason the "body language" comps seem to pass the bar, while the "boogy bytes" ... it's just those ten-minute sections of carsten jost-esque dreary rainswept mope house that i can't get past. i mean, i actually use my mix CDs for working out to ... this is going to sound supremely rockist, and maybe it's because i'm turning 29 soon, but no way i am going to listen to carsten jost when i already own like 500 hours of germanic mope music stretching from basic channel back to cluster + eno.

JABBA JABBA!! NIB NIB!! (vahid), Sunday, 6 August 2006 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

speaking of rockism, it was rather nice of dj t to start his mix with an "other people place" track considering "boogie playground" was like one big exquisitely poppy/poopy drexciya rethink.

JABBA JABBA!! NIB NIB!! (vahid), Sunday, 6 August 2006 00:07 (nineteen years ago)

i love BP and dj t, and i couldn't agree with you more. i called BP "fake house" when it came out because i was struggling to articulate what i thought about it at the time. not sure i could do any better now actually, but drexciya rethink does the job. actually it's not fake house, it's meta house. i don't think it's necessarily rockist to want to have an escape from the meta-ness or all of these records that are love letters to genre/nostalgia. i listened to giant steps today for that exact reason. it's also why perlon (to name one) is still good.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Sunday, 6 August 2006 00:39 (nineteen years ago)

it's just those ten-minute sections of carsten jost-esque dreary rainswept mope house that i can't get past.

Whereas I live and drive in Michigan, and I workout to an endless loop of every version of "Takin' It to the Streets" ever recorded.

Luis Skank Bloc Polonia (Andy_K), Sunday, 6 August 2006 00:46 (nineteen years ago)

no model 500 muzak for you!

breakfast pants (disco stu), Sunday, 6 August 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

surely the most popular DB track in detroit is "black water"????

JABBA JABBA!! NIB NIB!! (vahid), Sunday, 6 August 2006 00:57 (nineteen years ago)

I'd hesitate quite hard to say Boogy Bytes 1 has "bangin-ness" but it has amazing pull and snowballing momentum for such a heavily synth-driven mix.

I hear you on the Carsten Jost thing tho'. Too much of that Sascha Funke mix is placeholder tracks. Boogy Bytes 1 isn't remotely 'mope' though, it's upbeat!! I can't say it's essential for you, but I don't feel ripped off by buying it AT ALL.

Magda, now theres a skippable minimal CD mix...

fandango (fandango), Sunday, 6 August 2006 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

TS: DBs vs BBs

Catch THAT one, JJ!!NN!!?

xp

Luis Skank Bloc Polonia (Andy_K), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:00 (nineteen years ago)

woah octave one doobie brothers mind meld.

xpost, i really like the magda mix!!

breakfast pants (disco stu), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

i have been known to work out to "fly like an eagle" / "book of dreams"

JABBA JABBA!! NIB NIB!! (vahid), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:04 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, Space Intro gives me just enough time put on my shoes and stretch a bit.

Luis Skank Bloc Polonia (Andy_K), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

jacques lu cont has a dubplate re-edit of "abracadabra"

the circle is complete!!!!

JABBA JABBA!! NIB NIB!! (vahid), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:10 (nineteen years ago)

IIRC there's also a decent house mix of seal's cover of "fly like an eagle". i have it on an old mixtape somewhere.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:15 (nineteen years ago)

http://blog.diskunion.net/user/yoppy/yoppy/image/3546.jpg

Luis Skank Bloc Polonia (Andy_K), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

"Don't forget to bring a (E2-E4!!!!) towel!"

Looks like Joe's also promoting something he released.

Luis Skank Bloc Polonia (Andy_K), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

i used to work out to kraftwerk. (tour de france soundtracks all of the time -- i loved the idea of running on a treadmill and watching television with KW on the headphones)

breakfast pants (disco stu), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

Lawrence - Along The Wire (Superpitcher Mix)
SUPERPITCHER GOES TRANCE!

Beautiful, his best thing since the Hell Remix, easily.

i've not heard but who "his"?

Lawence >>> Superpitcher, easily.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:25 (nineteen years ago)

lawrence = 2 amazing albums + 1 good one

superpitcher = 1 half decent album.

not the whole story, i know, but give me Lawrence over superpitcher any day.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - I'm probably being too hard on that Magda mix, it's not terrible by any means (though it feels FAR too smooth and sub-DE9) but all the time it's on I'm wondering why it has only about 50% of the energy of any of her live sets I've heard??

It gets a bit boring in that micro k-hole after a while. But perhaps it will grow on me somewhere along the line.

fandango (fandango), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

it's the last 20 minutes that do it for me.

jed i think tim was talking about superpitcher's remix of hell's "je regrette everything" which is a very fine piece of work.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah i know, it's a good remix. i've not heard the Lawrence remix & am loing forward to it but, y'know, i love lawrence. Superpitcher is good but not as good as Lawrence.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:48 (nineteen years ago)

loing = looking

!

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:49 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - It's not nearly as "will this ever END?" as Bugnology 2 though!

Yeah, I think I need to actually play this from end-to-end a couple more times. It's kind of slipped into being 4/4 background music most of today which might be throwing me off.

fandango (fandango), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

they're very complementary artists i think, but yeah i like lawrence better. xxpost

breakfast pants (disco stu), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:54 (nineteen years ago)

:-))))

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:55 (nineteen years ago)

I love the Carsten Jost track on Boogey Bytes 2! Have loved it ever since Sami Koivikko included it on his Eucalyptus mix.

Re Lawrence vs Superpitcher: Lawrence is definitely more consistent, but I think Superpitcher's highs are higher.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 6 August 2006 03:07 (nineteen years ago)

You can download that Superpitcher remix from this blog.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 6 August 2006 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

Lawrence=1 trick, about 30 times

Superpitcher is way way way better, he has about 20 brilliant tracks which for a dance artist is gobsmacking. IMO Lawrence has a great sound but once you've heard 3 or 4 that's enough for anyone.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 6 August 2006 09:11 (nineteen years ago)

Actually Lawrence has at least two tricks Ronan, but you may not have heard his Theo Parrish homages from about 5 years ago.

Ronan download that Superpitcher mix and report back!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 6 August 2006 09:47 (nineteen years ago)

Lawrence has a great sound but once you've heard 3 or 4 that's enough for anyone.

This might be true if his recent tracks on Liebe Detail and Ladomat weren't so incredible. He did seem to hit a bit of a rut with the last album.

Luis Skank Bloc Polonia (Andy_K), Sunday, 6 August 2006 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

Superpitcher = Primal Scream
Lawrence = the Smiths

Luis Skank Bloc Polonia (Andy_K), Sunday, 6 August 2006 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

lawrence can mix. superpitcher cannot.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Sunday, 6 August 2006 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

"yup. i was playing around today mixing dinky's "horizontal" with a herbert track and damn is that dinky track lovely; it moves and shakes and congas and exhorts in all of the right places. (it's the one that opens PYB) made my day actually. "

The most recent Dinky 12inch on the Horizontal label (is this her own label btw?) sounds pretty lovely. "Michelle" is mysterious slow deep forest house a la the Reverso 68 Mix of Manhead's "Doop".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 6 August 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

wow, that superpithcer mix is absolutely superb.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 6 August 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

Upthread several months ago Yawn mentioned the Einmaleins label, but I'm only now checking out their website - some brilliant stuff here in a Mobilee/Guido Schneider style, though as per Guido at times some of the releases are a bit too glitch noise loop for my tastes. HOWEVER, check out this Sweet N Candy release (sound samples included). Also this Italoboys release. And of course this Pan-Pot release. All ridiculously intricate and totally charming - at its best this stuff retains a tight bubbly danceability that's simply effervescent. Of course I don't think I've ever even seen these records in Oz record stores.

Then the artists on the label's Charts page list releases on lots of labels I've never heard of! I always feel like a novice with this music.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 6 August 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

wow that superpitcher remix! it's a perfect example of what i was talking about when i said they're complementary artists. i always thought the lawrence tracks fit so well onto today. how gorgeous is "swap"?

yup, that's dinky's own label. i was going to ask if anyone had heard the new one.

i've heard the italoboyz release on einmaleins, but i like the one on treibstoff better. they definitely belong on this thread though they may veer too close to early 2000s force tracks click-house for some. i loved that stuff though. their tracks are very clipped and reduced and design-y, but not dry: yet another minimal take on chicago and theo parrish. worlds away from this superpitcher remix.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

I love the Italoboyz stuff, the einmaleins is one of my favorite 12s of the year.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 6 August 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

that sweet n candy ep is superb. especially 'double dutch'. sounds great on a big system. Rico Henschel really knows how to get the floor moving.

Cam B (Cam_B), Monday, 7 August 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

And I had just given up on Sweet 'n' Candy since their case of Tejadaitis appeared to be on the brink of going terminal. Figures.

Luis Skank Bloc Polonia (Andy_K), Monday, 7 August 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

You can look forward to Gui Boratto coming down with the Dahlbackian flu when he releases his 8th single of the year in December.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 7 August 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

Michael I read that is if you were saying each successive Boratto single was the best thing to have been released in 2006!

I don't mind Boratto being prolific though. His Evil Rising live set is so consistent, I think he's got pretty good quality control mostly, and I love his sound, that ever so slight latin vibe to the rhythmic programming.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 7 August 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

Vakant label mix-cd out next month! Exciting!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

Actually from Dec 2005 I think but Ibn Al-Khimiya's "Rendez-Vous At Night" (on Out of Orbit Recordings) is an excellent Trentemoller-ish track with these beautiful shards of swirling middle-eastern melody, like if Trentemoller played "Nam Nam" and "Prana" simultaneously.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 05:26 (nineteen years ago)

Really loving Ame's remix of Rodamaal's "Insomnia" at the moment as well. There's quite a few tracks like this at the moment that feel like they were deliberately designed as "peaktime" tracks (see also Ananda's "Doppelwhir") - but this track sticks out a bit because it's sexy as well as strident. When that two note synth riff comes in... i can just imagine everyone losing their shit on the dancefloor.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 07:23 (nineteen years ago)

Some banging minimal tunes for Dog Latin (not saying these are the most bangingest tunes in the genre, just some that came to mind straightaway):

1. Booka Shade - Mandarine Girl
2. Gabriel Ananda - In Personliche Glucksmelodie
3. Royksopp - What Else Is There (Trentemoller Mix)
4. Donnacha Costello - The Plan
5. Jona - Learning From The Mistakes
6. Huggotron - Glasshouses
7. Metope - Libertango
8. The Modernist - Protest Song (M. Mayer Mix)
9. Tiefschwarz - Issst (Dominik Eulberg Mix)
10. Gui Boratto - Sozinho
11. Rodamaal - Insomnia (Ame Remix)
12. Roman Flugel - Geht Nocht

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

Aren't some of those electrohouse?

anyway definitely not minimal but I am certain DL will love Duoteque's "Amyra".

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know, i basically call anything from 2005 onwards that's not, like, Rex the Dog or something "minimal".

I guess we could introduce a tighter definition that's, like, Mobilee, Perlon, Cadenza, M-Nus etc, but only a very small number of DJs actually restrict themselves to playing that.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

Ronan, I was wondering, why do you hate Oxia's "Domina" again? Apart from the fact that it's exactly the same as "Eve By Day", "1000 Miles" etc?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

I don't hate it really, I don't think I ever said I hate it, I just find its similarity to "Eve By Day" kind of insufferable.

I quite like "1000 Miles" tho. Even "Some Polyphony", the new Petter, which is yet another burbling melancholy trendy trance tune, I also like that.

I like to do a little 25 minute segment of playing 4 of these tunes in a row when I DJ, at a very electrohouse night, it always goes down well tho.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

Ah I can't remember, you dissed it before I'd heard it so i only barely registered whatever it was you'd said.

There's a ridiculous "epic" mix of "Eve By Day" on the remix 12inch by Ripperton which turns it into end credits music with marching drums!

Yeah "1000 Miles" is good, it's a bit less obvious about the whole meme.

I just heard "version 3" of Ame/Shwarz/Dixon's "Where We At" - so good. It starts out sounding slightly out of time and druggy/draggy compared to the usual version, but it swells into the most gorgeous dreamy masterpiece, basically like the last ten minutes or so of M.A.N.D.Y.'s Body Language (not surprising I guess!).

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

thanks folks, i will scope out when i get home!!

wogan lenin (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah that Ripperton mix is hilarious! I was a little disappointed with the "Eve By Day" mixes, I guess I'd play the Fairmont one but it seemed like a big deal release and then was kind of "well yes". Though often this is the way with big remixes I suppose.

Connaisseur is definitely a label I am keeping an eye on tho.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

Too many good labels! And it seems like all of them now use foliage as a motif somehow. 240 Volts still the original and the best in this regard though I think.

I think I prefer the two usable remixes slightly over the original "Eve By Day", which I can find a bit lumpen. I suspect it's similar to how you prefer the remixes of "In White Rooms"...?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

"I just heard "version 3" of Ame/Shwarz/Dixon's "Where We At" - so good. It starts out sounding slightly out of time and druggy/draggy compared to the usual version, but it swells into the most gorgeous dreamy masterpiece, basically like the last ten minutes or so of M.A.N.D.Y.'s Body Language (not surprising I guess!). "

In fact i've decided that any Villalobos fan who doesn't love this record has no credibility. I think this is going to be top ten single of the year material for me (the other thread-relevant contenders so far are "sozinho" and you-know-what).

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

I can't ever think of my favourites, there are too many records and I always see someone elses and think "oh yeah, that too". It's annoying tho.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha I just hear less records than you is all.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

@ Dog Latin...
Luci - Mullet Is In Da House
Moritz Piske - Ein Känguruh im Clubraum
Tekel - Cif
Cirez D - Teaser
...bring the bass and put the 'mental' back in 'minimentalism'

ferzaffe (flezaffe), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

Is that Luci track the crazy synth rave one?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

I tend to think of Cirez D and stuff as electrohouse, but in that sphere, there is an amazing 12 by Klikboxning on Plejour Audio.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

After about ten listens in a row I can confidently say that Superpitcher remix of Lawrence is indeed, AMAZING.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

I was about to ask you!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

i'm so dissapointed by "some polyphony" - the breakdowns just drag it down in a dreadful anticlimax...

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

I just heard "version 3" of Ame/Shwarz/Dixon's "Where We At" - so good

YES!

i don't think i've ever heard any other version of it though. this is one of the massive climaxes of the kiki boogybytes mix

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

I just heard "version 3" of Ame/Shwarz/Dixon's "Where We At"

I don't want to hear this motherfucker again...ever (although I just listened to version 3 just because Tim said it was good...my mind just starts to wander when it's bastard "move forward, move this move that, FUCK OFF!!!"

It's 'This World 2006' isn't it.

Omar (Omar), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

nothing is that bad!

I love the vocals it's 'propah' house innit? ;)
p.s. Lex, it's on the other BoogyBytes, just to be pedantic.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

I think that's my favourite part of the whole mix actually! You get this unexpectedly lush stormer of a trad-ish vocal house track, on other labels it might end up followed by more-of-the-same (or cheesier) but instead of letting you get comfortable he throws you straight into the dark hole of that Sleeparchive track! ace.

fandango (fandango), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

"This World" is the tiresome college freshman writing bad, "sensitive" poetry and signing up for every protest and demonstration, wearing hemp fabrics.

"Where We At" -- at least the "Move forward! With power!" bit -- is the crazy college freshman overdosing on Nietzche, standing up on the cafeteria table and overturning his lunch tray on his head.

The latter may be no less ridiculous, but it's WAY more entertaining. (At my college, the kids in the latter camp were often spotted humping trees while on LSD. Well, one of them was. Once. But it's enough.)

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

hey, nobody humps me on LSD without my permission!

trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

or giving me some.

the Behind the Mask rmx is a gem. "is it you / or is it me/ behind the mask/ i ask."

trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

Lex the version I'm talking about is slightly different to the version on BoogeyBytes 2 - less banging, more beautiful.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

I've always loved the "Where U At" acapella, it's verging on a standard house text now (a la "Let there be house...")

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 9 August 2006 22:18 (nineteen years ago)

Stephan Bodzin's Kerosene 12-inch is very nice, especially the b-side "Cucuma", which seems more lovely and modestly cosmic each time I hear it

also, Giorgio Gigli, who doesn't really sound "minimal" in a similar way as most of the artists in this thread (tho is nevertheless pretty f'ing minimal), is about to release another 2 tracks (you can hear them on his myspace page right now) -- very much continuing his (and Eletronnica Romana's) journey into cosmic trance places

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 11 August 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still trying to identify that track at about 25 minutes into the Stephan Bodzin mix I posted - maybe that is it!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

anyone who DOESN'T realize derrick carter is god needs their head examined

glen kim is fucking me over (vahid), Friday, 11 August 2006 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, 'strings of life' is awesome

ferzaffe (flezaffe), Saturday, 12 August 2006 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

j/k dont hit me plz

ferzaffe (flezaffe), Saturday, 12 August 2006 04:03 (nineteen years ago)

Tim, that track 25mins in is definitely a Bodzin track.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Saturday, 12 August 2006 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

"Stephan Bodzin's Kerosene 12-inch is very nice, especially the b-side "Cucuma", which seems more lovely and modestly cosmic each time I hear it"

Neither "Kerosene" nor "Cucuma" are the track I'm looking for, but both are fantastic. I'm listening to a lot of the sound samples on his website. The man is insane! I love the way some his tracks devolve into agonising robot madness and then fire back up again, it's like Black Strobe meets James Holden (but better than actual Black Strobe meets James Holden).

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 12 August 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

I've worked it out! The mystery DJ T-goes-goth track is Marc Romboy's "Sl Mirage" (produced by Stephan). Which makes perfect sense in retrospect!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 12 August 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

Tried to find reference to it elsewhere and couldn't, but the Agnes 12" on 60 Seconds is very pleasant. Can't exactly place it, but parts of it are very Eulberg. Maybe a bit more minimal tech... problem is that thread=dead.

trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 22 August 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

So who has the Cassy yet?

Mix of the year. Even luddite americans will like it.

Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 01:55 (nineteen years ago)

It seems to be the consensus ILM mix so far.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

I have bought about 10 albums of other stuff to tide me over till the release date!! I won't have it until it's out 'properly'.

bad hair day house (fandango), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 08:12 (nineteen years ago)

the cassy mix on the kompakt promo site is not the full one grrrrr.

a friend who's got the proper thing says it's very dull though. this would disappoint me.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 08:17 (nineteen years ago)

I think not. It gets more tech-y and less bumping towards the end, but in a fun way. There's one slightly draggy run of 3 songs in the middle but other than that it's pure gold.

Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 10:09 (nineteen years ago)

i heard she included a paris track!

a little knowledge can go a long way (lfam2), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

a paris track?

trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

I think that's a joke.

The track listing is on the other thread (I think it's the Andre Galluzi "berghain 01" thread).

jimnaseum - formalist rigour! (jimnaseum), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

We reviewed it on Resident Advisor. Which is sort of accurate. It does grow on you. First time I heard it, I felt it was a bit dull. But now I like it.

rchinn (rchinn), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

I imagine it being a lot like Pass Your Bedtime in that way - initially I found PYB a bit impenetrable, like deep house with the hooks extracted - now I love it to bits.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 23 August 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

Stephan Bodzin's Kerosene 12-inch is very nice, especially the b-side "Cucuma"

Yes, this one is lovely, made for one of those "teary eyed house" topics.

Omar (Omar), Thursday, 24 August 2006 10:36 (nineteen years ago)

What label is the Kerosene 12 on? Is it Giant Wheel?

Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 24 August 2006 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

it's on Herzblut, Bodzin's new label. He's also got another one out Tron on Systematic this week.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 24 August 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

my favourite stuff on the Cassy seems to be on Delsin - Shed, D5, Redshape. Anyone know much about this label? I'd never heard of it.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 24 August 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

oh, and credit where credit's due, richard. "we" didn't review cassy, Jacob did :)

Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 24 August 2006 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah Jacob reviewed Cassy well. Since living in England I use the royal we for anything vaguely positive I'd like to be associated with.

Delsin is a great label that does that same smooth melodic techno that's even a little trancey that you'd associate with Vince Watson. Check out their Spring mix done by Quince.

rchinn (rchinn), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

the cassy mix on the kompakt promo site is not the full one grrrrr.

Link please?

Telephonething (Telephonething), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

new Modern Heads on meadow lark is very nice also, called "Gliding", which seems like a perfect name (unless they changed it to "bathing in sun rays")

Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

i figured a joke. i just wanted to know where it came from.

trees (treesessplode), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

i checked out that delsin mix and liked one of our four songs. not such a high strike rate but the good ones are v. good!

Good Dog (Good Dog), Thursday, 24 August 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

I went on discogs and bought all the delsin tracks from the Cassy mix cos I figured prices would rocket after it came out!

Jacob (Jacob), Friday, 25 August 2006 06:47 (nineteen years ago)

the new connaisseur superior is really ace. defo one of the best labels at the mo.

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 25 August 2006 11:43 (nineteen years ago)

i figured a joke. i just wanted to know where it came from.

-- trees (meltingglacier...), August 25th, 2006.

i think it's because the lex named paris's debut as possibly the number 1 album of the year

alek (micarl), Friday, 25 August 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

So what's the tracklist on this Cassie mix?

matt2 (matt2), Friday, 25 August 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

01. Shackleton / Blood On My Hands
02. Dwayne Jensen / Believe (Norm Talley’s Beatdown Mix)
03. D5 / Sides Of Space
04. Melchior Productions / Let’s Go Deep
05. Tobias / Below Houston
06. Rick Wade / Night Station
07. Ricardo Villalobos / Sieso
08. NSI / Clara Ghavami (Extended)
09. Mono Junk / Channel B
10. V/A / MLTD
11. Auto-Repeat / What Turned Itself
12. Tobias / Dial
13. DBX / City On The Edge Of Forever
14. Baby Ford &The Ifach Collective / Sugarspoon
15. Yassin & Arne / Bleepy Creep (Cassy Remix)
16. Kolmas
17. Mathias Kaden / Pentaton
18. DBX / Bleep
19. Redshape / Pink Dust
20. Cassy / Toyah
21. Redshape / Dust
22. Shed / Well Done (033472 Edit)
23. Liebe ist Cool / Glhwrmchen (Cassy Remix)
24. DJ Abstract / Touch

Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 25 August 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Not sure if "minimal" is the right category (nor "2006" for that matter...) but I'm obsessed with Henrik Schwarz remixes at the moment. His efforts with Coldcut's "In My Shoes" and especially Tosca's "Superrob" are just magical - ambient ethnodelic disco!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 27 August 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

i agree tim. "ambient ethnodelic disco" is a good description. pretty much everything he has done this year i liked or outright loved and his performance at mutek was a highlight for sure (pick your favorite of his remixes and extend it to a 60 minute throwdown, add minimal scarf). he's bringing something unique to the minimal table i think e.g. dynamics and real instrumentation.

i am waiting patiently for the cassy mix to arrive from germany (i am in california). nice to see a villalobos track in there amongst everything else because villalobos sure gets name-checked a lot, but his tracks don't appear in mixes enough.

are you talking about the daso single ronan? if so, i agree. it's killer and perfect for that label too.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Sunday, 27 August 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

no I meant the Giresse thing, is there a Daso on Connaisseur? that's gotta be some quality electronic house!

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 27 August 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

yep it's number 6 and it came out last week. both sides of the girresse single are quality too.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Sunday, 27 August 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

once again: agnes "girls on drums" ep = fucking tight-ass shit

trees (treesessplode), Sunday, 27 August 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

ah crap i just checked and it's actually number 8. 6 is a good one too though. heh.

xpost, haha that EP has a track called "meg white". nice one.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Sunday, 27 August 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

'fresh blood in clubs' is the killer track. for b1, it is especially good.

trees (treesessplode), Monday, 28 August 2006 00:24 (nineteen years ago)

Tricky you might be disappointed because sieso gets about 2 minutes of play on that mix. It works, but it's not like you get the whole villalobos epic unfolding experience...

Jacob (Jacob), Monday, 28 August 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

as usual couldn't decide whether this should go here or on electrohouse thread but these 'Escoria' remixes on Trapez Ltd. by Audio Werner, Ryan Crosson and Franklin De Costa are new right?

i really like the Frank De Costa one - kinda dense and busy and blatantly detailed in the way i can like. i'm about that skitterish beat where the bassdrum is backed up with constant double click-as-hi-hat i realise, and little atmospheric things like the abrupt strings bit.

would love to be pointed towards other recent tracks that fit this description if anyone can think of others offhand.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 28 August 2006 11:42 (nineteen years ago)

The Franklin De Costa single on Einameleins sounded really good, although I'm not sure if it would appeal to people who aren't already into the Mobilee/Einmaleins/Vakant axis. Einmaleins stuff especially I think of as being "end point" music - it only makes sense if you've already absorbed most of everything else that gets classified as "minimal".

I haven't heard that remix though Steve, I'm trying to imagine what you're describing so I can think of suggestions but I'm having difficulty.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 28 August 2006 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

yeh i'm not explaining it v well - esp. as it doesn't really sound that different from original 'Escoria' or indeed 'Zangano' (at least not beat-wise) - just a bit 'busier' somehow.

Konal Doddz (blueski), Monday, 28 August 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone like the first Troy Pierce remix of Lawrence's Along the Wire? It's maybe the first thing of his that I have really connected with.

hector (hector), Monday, 28 August 2006 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

I have one of the Pierce remixes but I'm not sure which one - it sounds really blandly sparse and murky, and scared of emotions (esp. compared to the Superpitcher remix), so maybe it's the other one?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 01:26 (nineteen years ago)

I liked the Painted By Scholars Mix. The other mix is kind of nondescript and as you described it. Although compared to the Superpitcher mix most minimal would be scared of emotion. That track is very up!

hector (hector), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

I hate to admit this but I still don't know what the big deal is re. the Superpitcher Along the Line remix. Strange because in theory it's a total "meeting of the minds" thing (I adore both Lawrence and Superpitcher) and this just sounds...there?

Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 08:29 (nineteen years ago)

I'm liking the Paul Kalkbrenner reworks, especially the intro which is a bit like Music for City Centres.

rchinn (rchinn), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 10:02 (nineteen years ago)

Seems I like my Lawrence "uncut": just listened to the Deep Summer Hole 12. A thing of rare beauty.

Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

The Pierce Black Boots mix sounds tremendous to my ears, more/equally detailed/layered than just about any of the relatively subdued tracks on the Cassy or Neumann mixes -- especially with headphones. (This is the absolute worst kind of thing to listen to through laptop speakers amirite?)

It's bizarre how the meaning of minimal has shifted enough to leave the likes of Anders Ilar (who has released a pile of great tracks the past year) in the dust. He hasn't been mentioned here, has he?

(Disclaimer: Throughout the past couple years it seems I've been predisposed to just about anything deemed dry and/or sparse.)

Andy_K (Andy_K), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

Ilar seems always underrated. I wonder if he's just not "catchy" enough, though if I had to choose between listening to a new track by, say, Kaito, and Ilar, I'd go for Ilar (who is also pretty varied in his releases, as far as mood).

Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

hey this is a bit old but does anyone know anything about the misc track "metroland" that appears on the kiki boogy bytes mix? i assumed it was a superpitcher track at first and now am obsessed with it, but i can only find it appearing on an album, the rest of which i wasnt really taken with. i would love this to appear on a 12", but is that gonna happen?

fuck hiding killer tunes as album filler!

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

the cassy "alexandra"/"toyah" 12" is pretty damn great. have not heard her panoramabar mix yet

joseph (joseph), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 04:28 (nineteen years ago)

Dispositivos De Mi Granja has been driving me up the wall as of recent. Ya.

trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

yeah it does that

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

the way those keyboards just glisten on top of everything almost completely disconnected from the rhythm. so sparkly!

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Wednesday, 30 August 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

oldschoolish Chicago/Millsian hammering piano with a slow rolling beat and added Beach Boysish sleigh bells.

to anwser my own question: Shinedoe - 'Phunk'. :) Amazing (as featured in the great Booka Shade Essential Mix, somwhere in the second hour.)

Omar (Omar), Monday, 4 September 2006 07:58 (nineteen years ago)

The My My remix of M.I.A.'s "Tanz Der Molekule" is quite astonishing - all these weird vocal samples floating all over the place, it's eerie and beautiful.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 10 September 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

My My's got a swarm of stuff coming up here that I've taken a serious liking to. Where can you get the mp3 of Tanz Der Molekule? I heard the sample off Juno and want to get it rightaway.

natedey (ndeyoung), Sunday, 10 September 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

so many great records at the moment -

cobblestone jazz - dump truck (still melting my head)
cobblestone jazz - india in me
stefan goldmann -sleepy hollow (that lead line!!!)
martin buttrich - full clip
mathew jonson - automatic
hansepferd - bismarkE (stoopidest record of the year but so, so good - show me where your bunker at. secret bunker, nazi bunker, secret bunker......nazi rave!')

stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 10 September 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

My My album on the way I read somewhere.

just say no to individuality (fandango), Sunday, 10 September 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

not minimal, by any means, but Trickski's version of "At Les" is immense.

Also quite feeling that Martin Buttrich tune, and Eulberg's remix of Sweet N Candy's "Tacky Wakeup".

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 10 September 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

"My My's got a swarm of stuff coming up here that I've taken a serious liking to. Where can you get the mp3 of Tanz Der Molekule? I heard the sample off Juno and want to get it rightaway. "

Go to ohmygoshparty.blogspot.com and check out the August archive.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 10 September 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

the way those keyboards just glisten on top of everything almost completely disconnected from the rhythm. so sparkly!
-- a name means a lot just by itself (lfamula...), August 30th, 2006. (lfam) (link)

the rhythms are so nice and lush... like water at night, this record.

trees (treesessplode), Monday, 11 September 2006 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, so it came out a bit back. But a friend just bought Luciano's single with 'Octagonal' on the b-side, and I think that this might be one of my new favorite tracks.

trees (treesessplode), Monday, 11 September 2006 02:46 (nineteen years ago)

yup, trickski's 'at les' is ace. dare i say that i prefer it to cc's original?

stirmonster (stirmonster), Monday, 11 September 2006 03:13 (nineteen years ago)

Love the Trickski single! Massive!

Also new Ada is amazing, as is the Get Physical double whammy of Jona's mix of "Body Language" and the DJ T mix of Spektrum's "Mayday". September is a big month.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 11 September 2006 07:44 (nineteen years ago)

Trickski 'At Les' doesn't have chance with me since the original probably is my favorite techno track evah. Trickski's version is just okay. New Ada doesn't really convince me either. Modern Heads 'Gliding' is amazing though (esp. the Pig & Dan rmx).

Omar (Omar), Monday, 11 September 2006 08:32 (nineteen years ago)

The My My EP 'kinesi workshop' on circus company is sounding pretty interesting.

Really excited about the new cobblestone jazz record as well though I haven't heard it yet..

Bn1 (Bn1), Monday, 11 September 2006 08:54 (nineteen years ago)

MIA's Safe Night, Douglas Greed's Fresh and Clean... the Vakant mix is excellent, as expected.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Monday, 11 September 2006 11:02 (nineteen years ago)

My only prob is I wish Trickski would slam back into a beat instead of it just kind of stuttering back in. Is it possible he actually made a mistake or did he intend it to not come back in in time, or even trendily off time? It absolutely slayed the (deep house) club I was playing at on Friday, like the cheers reminded me of the first few times I took drugs (perhaps the sort of USness of the sound helped with this too). amazing.

I forgot to mention here

Heckmann and Kaufelt-Kookaburra (Acid Fuckers Unite Ltd)

This record is amazing, I picked it up in Phonica a while ago, and then reviewed it for Stylus, it's like a gimmicky bird chirping acid line and perfect drum programming, over and over and over, the best floor worker of the year, impossible to leave out of the bag. A bit like a certain Roman Flugel tune from yesteryear but nowhere near as overplayed, this is also key, I like this record alot cos nobody has it and everyone asks about it. I'm sure big DJs must be playing it though, it's too good to be a secret.

And although I mentioned it already, the Michael Ho 12 on Tuning Spork is blowing my mind, quite downtempo but so so funky, I wish more people would make this weird sort of sound, it's like if Reverso 68 made minimal house. Minimalearic?

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 11 September 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Oh shit yeah, the new Jona single is great too, Jona lovers.

And Full Body Workout 3 is pretty cool. Jona remixes Daso's "Daybreak" on it, but it's not as awesome as it sounds!

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 11 September 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

(in case you were wondering what a kookaburra is, theres a little video on Heckmanns homepage. i always thought that sound was made by monkeys. oh and theres also a Gabrel Ananda remix on the way, apparently)

Python... No Bite :B (flezaffe), Monday, 11 September 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

(ahem: the video)

Python... No Bite :B (flezaffe), Monday, 11 September 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

I remember a weird song, I think it was Australian, about a kookaburra. Like a childs song, I forget where I heard it, possibly at school.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 11 September 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Kookaburra sits on the old gum tree
Merry merry king of the bush is he
laugh, kookaburra, laugh, kookaburra
Gay your life must be

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 11 September 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

i like the b-side to Dump Truck better than the title track. any others?

trees (treesessplode), Monday, 11 September 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

that song really confused me as a child because we were taught it without being told what a kookaburra was, beyond being australian and some kind of living thing (oh and a brand of cricket bat as well).

It took me a while to get into that My My remix of "Tanz der Moleküle" because I love the original a great deal, but it really is lovely, isn't it? hesitating and sideways where the original's so straightforward.

except she got a little more ass (cis), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

wow, the "at les" remake is better than the original? this i have to check!!

breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 02:03 (nineteen years ago)

goldmann's "sleepy hollow" is streaming on his myspace page and it is indeed massive. it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that (quantized into the red) swing!

breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 02:12 (nineteen years ago)

so is this "kookaburra" record the "erotic discourse" that's actually good?

breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

it's not like "erotic discourse" really, it still reminds me of "Gehts Nacht?" (maybe spelled that wrong). it also mixes with anything, which is cool.

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone heard the Remute album?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 05:00 (nineteen years ago)

wow, the "at les" remake is better than the original? this i have to check!!

not better. different. i think i prefer it because i have heard the original so many times that it has ceased to mean anything to me and i could probably do with never hearing it again (see also about 50% of UR's back catalogue). i hate it when that happens.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 07:02 (nineteen years ago)

upcoming on playhouse -

Entering the PLAYHOUSE we have »THE SIREN« (PLAY 127), a piece by a Swiss band from 1989 named UNKNOWNMIX with a magnificent remix by LOSOUL and 2 state of the art cover versions of Berlin trio JAHCOOZI. There's also a brandnew 12" by master ISOLÉE with the terrific name »HERMELIN« (PLAY 130), the eagerly awaited »SONGS FOR THE GENTLE« (PLAY CD 019 / 2LP PLAY 129) debut album by another Berlin trio named MY MY, new music from Ricardo VILLALOBOS (PLAY 133) and with MAX MOHR'S »TRICKMIXER'S REVENGE« (PLAY CD 020 / 2LP PLAY 132) yet another remarkable debut album!

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

new music from Ricardo VILLALOBOS (PLAY 133)

Aha! The fabled 834 hour long track?

Omar (Omar), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.emersonlakepalmer.com/tarkus.jpg

Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

Jona's "Tizia" is so brilliant! It starts off so pretty and delicate, it's hard to even how imagine how big it quickly becomes... but then, it's kinda delicate and intricate throughout, some of those unexpected arpeggios are just mindblowing. This guy is such a genius, it's kinda scary, tunes shouldn't be able to do this much in eight minutes.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

I really like "Tizia" but I wonder about his ideas, he is an amazing producer and the records sound great but already I feel myself wanting him to vary it more. Say, the other 2 tunes on the 12 aren't really great, the sheen kinda gets in the way and obscures what really isn't a great idea or groove, or even a great melody.

"Tizia" is really great though.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

Playhouse is gonna be the most popular kid at school this fall.

trees (treesessplode), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

Villalobos played the whole of the 44 minute track on Saturday. first half is a clarinette solo/electroish rhythm duel.

a (rslvd), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm still hoping it's the final track of his Awakenings set (because it basically is the best thing ever.)

MIA's 'Safe Night' is indeed special.

Omar (Omar), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

yeah that's what I'm talking about, he played the first half of it. it will be that.

a (rslvd), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

wait until you hear it in a non-mp3 form! through the Fabric soundsystem it's earth shattering. (I've had the pleasure 3 times now! Luciano has a copy too)

a (rslvd), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Oh joy!

Omar (Omar), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

so *is* that Villalobos track partly trailed on his Awakenings mix then?

boredom to the left, babylon to the right (fandango), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

btw, not minimal at all, but does anyone know what that "siren" tune is? I assumed it was just some crazy eq-ing but apparently it's actually a record, rave madness! :D

boredom to the left, babylon to the right (fandango), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

the air sirens Villalobos uses definitely aren't a record. they're just an effect off a CD-R. he has a habit of playing them w/ a Mark Hemmann tune ('Curveball'), but when I've seen him he's mixed them in with other stuff.

Audion's 'Mouth to Mouth' has a synth buzzsaw attack that sounds like sirens, that's probably where the confusion is arising...

a (rslvd), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

thanks :) that's what I get for believing anything written in youtube comments!

boredom to the left, babylon to the right (fandango), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks to Ronan, I am currently addicted to the majestic trance of Gusgus' "Mallflowers." Not minimal, but could probably fit into a minimal set pretty well.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 16 September 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

two new - Full Clip - Martin Buttrich - this is awesome, no doubt will get banged to death in the coming while. Also DJ Yellow - Elusiv (maybe not so new) but also awesome.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Saturday, 16 September 2006 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

That Buttrich is incredible! Got it the other week and immediately had to try constructing an entire 2 hour mix around it. So many 'anthemic' tracks right now - this, wombat, where we at etc.

Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

Jacob have you heard the Ame mix of "Rodamaal" yet? Yeah I know I've mentioned it on like ten threads...

I've just put on the new Lee Van Dowski/Quenum album As Told On The Eve Of.... Sounds interesting. Will report back.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 06:31 (nineteen years ago)

eagerly anticipating both M(y/ax) M(y/ohr) albums

jermaine (jnoble), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 07:58 (nineteen years ago)

I hate the vocal in the Rodamaal remix, "fiiiiiiiiiiind eeeet, keeeeeeeeep eeeet". ugh....ruins eeet

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 08:00 (nineteen years ago)

Mallflowers is pure trance heaven!

(Also not very minimal) Love that new Ame 'Phuture Bound' rmx, lovely and subtle references of 'French Kiss' too.

Omar (Omar), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 10:30 (nineteen years ago)

Lazy Fat People/Ripperton are becoming one of my favourite producers with all this great stuff lately. New 12 on Wagon Repair is amazing as is their remix of Solieb.

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 25 September 2006 08:33 (nineteen years ago)

and another 12" on Planet E soon apparently...

new Melchior Productions 12" on Perlon has snuck out very quietly.

a (rslvd), Monday, 25 September 2006 08:51 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone else have this Cassy demo? iz quite nice.

trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 00:56 (nineteen years ago)

please to talk more about the new melchior and cassy demo.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

i saw that melchior for sale somewhere... wondering

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

audio: http://www.wordandsound.de/article/43873

a name means a lot just by itself (lfam), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 02:29 (nineteen years ago)

liking it!! thanks.

breakfast pants (disco stu), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 02:51 (nineteen years ago)

Lazy Fat People/Ripperton are becoming one of my favourite producers with all this great stuff lately. New 12 on Wagon Repair is amazing as is their remix of Solieb.

-- Ronan (ronan.fitzgerald6NOSPA...), September 25th, 2006.

I also really love the mixes on the ripperton site too. Very enjoyable.

Thomas Mehlt (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 05:11 (nineteen years ago)

the LFP mix of Solieb doesnt hold a candle to the original, its completely overegged

Python... No Bite :B (flezaffe), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 05:41 (nineteen years ago)

Don't know the original but the Lazy Fat People rmx is pretty amazing, love the way it slowly disolves into nothingness.

Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 06:15 (nineteen years ago)

'tizia' is incredible!!!

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 07:20 (nineteen years ago)

the Melchior is... interesting. pretty big departure for him, VERY distended -- both tracks play at 33 and are cut practically to the label, darker (esp 'Phantom') and with a less predictable structure ('Different Places' middle section just goes off the rails.) need to listen to this a lot more to get a handle on it, also have a feeling there's a lot of stuff going on that you just can't hear without having a huge system.

a (rslvd), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 09:38 (nineteen years ago)

those melchior samples are pretty exciting...

but seriously, what is this thing?

Luciano- Cassy Demo-- Desconocido
1. pista 1
2. pista 2
3. pista 3
4. pista 4
5. pista 5
6. con cassi final
7. con cassi otro

Sounds like Luciano and Cassy trying to channel Sade, or something to that degree.

trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

i dl'ed from 515k based just on the title.

trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

someone should seriously give the real Sade a ring one of these days.

Not that I'm not slightly breathless at the thought of the above track already.

dance dance counter-revolution (fandango), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

the cassy track on luciano's cd is definitely a low point in her discography

a (rslvd), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

it's not good?

dance dance counter-revolution (fandango), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

fuck it I can't keep up anyway...

dance dance counter-revolution (fandango), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

well - as above, it sounds like a bad Sade track. make of that what you will.

a (rslvd), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

Sade is being a little generous. Des'ree, perhaps.

a (rslvd), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

Yo, Sade is the shit.

trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

the cassy track on luciano's cd is definitely a low point in her discography

Aha, never made the connection! This makes so much sense. I HATE that song and don't care for Cassy-as-singer at all (Panorama Bar is the greatness of course).

Omar (Omar), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 07:35 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone heard Saint Ibot's "White Night", it's like electro/minimal/windowlicker. Unbelievable tune, completely unhinged and sounding weirdly Grimey/Jungley in a 4/4.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:07 (nineteen years ago)

few spins in, completely in love with the new Melchior.

a (rslvd), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

I suppose everyone has the myspaces now but I just happened to notice these in passing.
http://www.myspace.com/dinkydj (free mp3 from oop 12" here)
http://www.myspace.com/horizontaland (infos)

dance dance counter-revolution (fandango), Thursday, 28 September 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

Antena's "Camina Del Sol (Joakim Mix)" is just too big for words - it's like, trance revivalism meets Ame meets Carl Craig meets, I dunno, just skyscraping largesse. It's almost too big: the whole thing feels incredibly deliberate. But it would be pretty astonishing on the dancefloor.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 1 October 2006 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

That's a great 12, all three releases I know on Permanent Vacation have been excellent.

Speaking of Ame, his new mix cd, "Mixing" is very nice:

Laurie Spiegel - Appalachian Grove 1
New Musik - 24 Hours From Culture - Part II (Clean Version)
Double - Woman Of The World (Long Instrumental Version)
Nexus - Stand Up (Vocal)
Coldcut ft Robert Owens - Walk A Mile in My Shoes (Henrik Schwarz Remix)
Atjazz - For Real (Version Remix)
Ben Westbeech - So Good Today (Yoruba Soul Remix)
Jonny L - This Time (Carl Craig Remix)
Château Flight – Baroque
Lucien-N-Luciano - Stone Age
Capracara - Flashback 86
Funtopia ft Jimi Polo - Do You Wanna Know (DYWK) (Derrick May Remix)
Âme – Nia
Jump Cutz Vol 5 - Deep Introspection
Ashra – Sunrain

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 1 October 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh that looks nice, although that Coldcut remix is fast becoming ubiquitous. Did anyone listen to Ame's Skin Is In mix (and isn't it a duo?)?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 1 October 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

I keep forgetting they are a duo!

I listened to the Skin Is In mix once, seemed alright, par for the course for a cd promoting a glossed up fashion shoot.

That's the third mix this year to have "Women of the World" on it too. Everytime I hear the bassline I can't stop signing the bridge melody from Taco's "Putting on the Ritz" ("Dressed up like a million-dollar trooper...") over it. I guess a mash up is in order.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 1 October 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

so much good stuff lately

Juergens-Love It-amazing Border Community/Extrawelt style tune....


And "Shinjuku" of course, THIS is what Wagon Repair should always sound like, psychedelic does not mean 15 minute long records with crap melodies...

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds like something on Poker Flat to me!

Good Dog (Good Dog), Sunday, 1 October 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

i think there is definitely the suggestion of hidden stuff in melchior's music (baby ford too). all of that space and the attention to detail adds up to sonic mystery (+ the voices he occasionally uses). he's also a very spiritual/religious guy too, right? i thought "in the shadow" from the last perlon comp was a real departure/experiment so i am psyched to hear the new one. is perlon licensing their stuff for download yet?

josh spicoli (disco stu), Sunday, 1 October 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Was thinking last night that, despite the obvious "Geht Nocht" connection, the track that Claude Von Stroke's "The Whistler" seems to go with most for me is Booka Shade's "Ping Pong" - both tracks have that slightly ethnodelic 808 State vibe about them. Would love to see this resemblance become more pronounced in otherv current house/techno.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 1 October 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds like something on Poker Flat to me!

the ultimate insult...except Poker Flat hasn't been as crap as usual lately...

Tim, "Kookaburra" by Heckmann and Kaufelt is urgent and key for that point...I think it's in that radio show I posted.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, some tracks of the new Trentemoller on PF are amazing, esp. Into the Trees

Good Dog (Good Dog), Sunday, 1 October 2006 22:07 (nineteen years ago)

perlon is not licensing anything for download, and based on zip's attitude towards mp3, i wouldn't hold yr breath.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Monday, 2 October 2006 00:29 (nineteen years ago)

thanks philip. can't say i'm too surprised. it's an admirable stance to take considering where things seem to be going in this realm.

josh. (disco stu), Monday, 2 October 2006 00:38 (nineteen years ago)

"Into The Trees" is better live than on record I think - the album version suffers a bit too much from that whole "Arthur and Merlin in the forest" vibe that permeates the Trentemoller album, although yeah the military snares are amazing - when he plays it live it's all snares.

I know that I was saying in another thread that I want more minimal that sounds like Frodo with bongos strapped to his back, but the Trentemoller album is all Frodo, no bongos.

Ronan I'll check out "Kookaburra" and your mix.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 2 October 2006 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

KEEP VINYL ALIVE...
DINOSAURS ARE COOL...

eh (fandango), Monday, 2 October 2006 01:11 (nineteen years ago)

Not like mp3 is the only option, though, since a couple sites are doing flac or other lossless downloads.

m.h. (mike h.), Monday, 2 October 2006 01:56 (nineteen years ago)

Computer Scared ?!

eh (fandango), Monday, 2 October 2006 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

doubt it as zip uses a laptop + mixer when he plays live (not sure about the dj-ing side of things). the attention to detail on the perlon catalog is meticulous: the releases, the design of the sleeves, vinyl as the historical and canonical dj's instrument, everything is just so and very enigmatic. i can imagine not wanting to break that continuity if i were in that position. i can also imagine picking up quite a bit of the catalog if it were available in lossless form.

josh. (disco stu), Monday, 2 October 2006 02:30 (nineteen years ago)

"I know that I was saying in another thread that I want more minimal that sounds like Frodo with bongos strapped to his back, but the Trentemoller album is all Frodo, no bongos."

it's weird, when I listen to "The Forest" or "Prana" or perhaps especially his gorgeous remix of "Les Djinns", there just seems to be no reason that Trentemoller couldn't have made the perfect album that catered to both dancefloors and whatever notion of epic homelistening psych-out sessions he has in mind. It really feels like a missed opportunity.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 2 October 2006 04:59 (nineteen years ago)

when he plays it live it's all snares

Trentemoller should be just snares and some spacious effects (i.e. the bits that are good in his remixes.)

I'm getting into the My My album Songs for the Gentle. Proper house, no "I wanted to work with Tracy Horn for some time" crap.

Omar (Omar), Monday, 2 October 2006 06:32 (nineteen years ago)

"it's weird, when I listen to "The Forest" or "Prana" or perhaps especially his gorgeous remix of "Les Djinns", there just seems to be no reason that Trentemoller couldn't have made the perfect album that catered to both dancefloors and whatever notion of epic homelistening psych-out sessions he has in mind. It really feels like a missed opportunity."

OTM - esp. the second disc singles comp paired with TLR makes the proper album seem sooo underwhelming. The second half of the album holds up alright though, and the sound design, for the most part, is pretty impeccable.

Songs of the Gentle is solid. I just want a track to be as exciting as serpentine and still haven't found it.

natedey (ndeyoung), Monday, 2 October 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

yea the my my album is pretty good. Anyone out there like the last Donato Dozzy EP? I am pretty into Gol right now.

hector (hector), Monday, 2 October 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)

hmm

Fabric 31: Marco Carola

1/ Matt John - IO
2/ Eriko Tanabe - Eclat and Prudo (Alfa Romero Remix)
3/ Chris Carrier - Sure Shot
4/ Marek Bois - You Got Good Ash (Gabriel Ananda Remix)
5/ Fusiphorm - I am... you! (Someone Else Remix)
6/ Timo Anttila - Nakuta
7/ Barem - Cilindro
8/ Mathias Kaden - Snowman
9/ Paco Osuna - Cretine
10/ Fraktion - Acidrop
11/ Marc Houle - Kicker
12/ Audio Werner - Onandon
13/ Dolly La Parton - Whenever
14/ Microfunk - Pecan
15/ Details - Change
16/ Dazio Zenker - Newbe (Heartthrob's Are U Gay Remix)
17/ Ernie - Escarabajos
18/ Alex Smoke - Plunder

a (rslvd), Monday, 9 October 2006 08:01 (nineteen years ago)

wonder how many other mix CDs are going to end up with Pecan on them?

a (rslvd), Monday, 9 October 2006 08:05 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone out there like the last Donato Dozzy EP?

I like it. His production skillz have gotten better, but maybe I prefer the murk of his older stuff. his style works best when it's warm and a little indistinct but this is more pristine.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Monday, 9 October 2006 10:18 (nineteen years ago)

Funny how there's this mini-trend of non-dancey orchestral mixes of minimal anthems. First there was the military drum remix of Chardronnett's "Eve By Day", and now the beatless string version of Ame's "Rej" - it now sounds ripe for use in some weirdo beardo set.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 9 October 2006 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

i really dislike Pecan. i find it terribly boring.

trees (treesessplode), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 00:57 (nineteen years ago)

i hated it until I heard it in a club... but through a soundsystem, it's seriously a different story. doesn't work on Fabric 31, at all.

a (rslvd), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 05:43 (nineteen years ago)

(the bassline is far, far too small at home.)

a (rslvd), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 05:44 (nineteen years ago)

I find Pecan boring as well, as well as the Miss Fitz EP, the one on Archipel that everyone raves about because it's being played by Sr. Villa.

Jena (JenaP), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 05:49 (nineteen years ago)

"pecan" = i thought you were talking about a new circulation record

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 05:56 (nineteen years ago)

or maybe donnacha costello

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 05:56 (nineteen years ago)

both of whom sorta suck

HUNTA-V (vahid), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 05:56 (nineteen years ago)

see, that one is exactly the same story.

x-post

a (rslvd), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 05:57 (nineteen years ago)

i think pecan is a more of a beat tool. its simple and almost as painful as gehts nocht, but have heard a bunch of people use it effectively over two other tracks being mixed.

rchinn (rchinn), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 08:02 (nineteen years ago)

anyone have any recommendations for stuff that sounds like that Shonky-Closer To Pluton EP on Resopal?

Also loving his remix, with Jennifer Cardini, of Mille Caro's "Far Away". Great creepy space noises!

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 09:18 (nineteen years ago)

best use of pecan i've heard was luciano playing some disco diva vocal over the top
but yes, it's a dj tool. (as is porn 04)

a (rslvd), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 09:22 (nineteen years ago)

Ronan is very right about Lazy Fat People. Loving both "Shinjuku" and the Solieb remix.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 09:54 (nineteen years ago)

Solieb - Isotropy > Solieb - Isotropy (Lazy fat people remix).

I just find the remix really unfocused, meandering (this is coming from a Luciano and Villalobos nut remember) and a bit superficial. What I mean by superficial is that it seems to be full of little minimal tricks but I don't find that it has the desired effect at all. I can't imagine dancing to it and my favourite parts of it are the remnants of the original track.

struttin' with some barbecue (jimnaseum), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone heard Cadenza 012, Pikaya / Andomat 3000 & Jan?

jelkino (jergins), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 02:08 (nineteen years ago)

love it. or at least one side (i think it's the andomat & jan side) - super deep/housey, really easygoing, nothing particularly complicated, just darned good minimal house bobbins.

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 03:32 (nineteen years ago)

And Again-To The Moles and The Masses on Sender is really good, especially "Thirty One-Times".

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone heard the Kobox remixes of Metope's album? The sound clips sounded interesting, at least.

mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

i'd like to hear the ada one

jelkino (jergins), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1847/264/1600/1139390204_l.jpg

jelkino (jergins), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

I thought they were lame.

Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 12 October 2006 01:29 (nineteen years ago)

So how great is the Hermelin 12"? Especially liking "Sleazy Bee."

Telephonething (Telephonething), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

yeah fantastic...loving the title track myself, really driving and kind of....Carl Craig style? Or am I way off the mark? I mean of course Isolée always sounds like himself, but something about the main hook is kind of Craig style to me....

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 13 October 2006 21:19 (nineteen years ago)

Fuckpony-fans (and perhaps Cassy-fans, although I reckon this and Fuckpony are better than Cassy) need to check out Nass's fantastic "Deep Shizzle" on Firm. Nass is a Geiger alias and it's got a similar woozy but spiky house sound to a lot of Geiger's stuff. It strikes me that Firm have really been at the forefront of this sound for ages - e.g. "Really Real", "One Night At The Dizko" etc. When the fuck are Schaeben and/or Voss gonna do an album?

Anway, "Deep Shizzle": one side is ultra-deep and the other is quite urgent and druggy. Lovin' it, and awesome/disturbing cover-art too.

Anyone heard any of the other Nass releases from this year?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 13 October 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

Voss already released a solo album! Two Sides, which is quite hard to get a hold of in the US and for some reason isn't even listed on Discogs.

Telephonething (Telephonething), Friday, 13 October 2006 23:26 (nineteen years ago)

What what what?

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 14 October 2006 00:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yup- here it is on Amazon.de. It's at kompakt-mp3 too but I can't link it. Got fairly mixed reviews, IIRC, similar to Geiger's lp on Firm. I like what little I've heard of it.

Telephonething (Telephonething), Saturday, 14 October 2006 00:33 (nineteen years ago)

Generally speaking I've liked Schaeben and Voss together more than Voss alone. Schaben seems to be the tracky one.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 14 October 2006 00:36 (nineteen years ago)

One thing that most reviewers seem to hate but I love is the album version of "I Think About You"- it's full of these ridiculous pitch-shifted Walrus Of Love "OH YEAH BABY I REALLY LUV YOU I THINKS ABOUT YOU ALL THE TIME" interjections. It's fucking awesome.

Telephonething (Telephonething), Saturday, 14 October 2006 00:56 (nineteen years ago)

Really not sure if this is the thread to file this in, but has anyone heard Mark Ernestus' mixes of Tony Allen?

Telephonething (Telephonething), Saturday, 21 October 2006 03:54 (nineteen years ago)

They are great although more midtempo disco-dub than anything housey. It was actually reviewed yesterday over at Stylus.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Saturday, 21 October 2006 09:09 (nineteen years ago)

they rule. particularly the dubbier dub. i really hope he's got the bug for doing this sort of thing now and we hear a lot more.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Saturday, 21 October 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

Pascal FEOS - Synaptic is a good mix, original songs (mostly from his 12-inch series of the same name), forward momentum. I wish more people would release all original mixes like this (or maybe they are, and I'm missing them)

Dominique (dleone), Monday, 23 October 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

all of his tracks are great..

Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

That Ripperton remix of Bjork's "Pagan Poetry" is beautiful... well, perhaps rather, the original is beautiful and Ripperton doesn't fuck it up. Which in itself is something of an achievement. I want enough minimal remixes of ethereal female singers to make an entire mix (what else is there apart from Radio Slave on Kate Bush and all the Knife remixes?).

There's a really good double-cd minimal mix that's just been put out by Melbourne's best club Honkytonks, which is sadly closing soon. I was a bit surprised by it, the mix sounds quite dark and serious sounding - not so much for minimal per se, but for Honkytonks which I will forever associate with the perky Music For Freaks/Perlon type stuff they often used to play when I'd trot along circa 2001/2002. I haven't been there in the last 12 months unfortunately (too domesticated) but I guess this is what they're playing now.

It was such a good club though... saw a lifechanging live performance by The Martini Bros there, as well as DJ T, Superpitcher, Captain Comatose (so good!), Jeff Bennett... but the local DJs were usually the best. Anyway, this is the tracklisting:

MIKE CALLANDER
1 Jackmate Dehydrated Resopal
2 Herve AK Serial X K2
3 Monolake Plumbicon (Sleeparchive Interpretation) Monolake
4 Misc. Frequenztraeger (Pan-Pot Remix) Sender
5 Dub Kult Twelve Traum
6 Robert Babicz Organic Boogie Treibstoff
7 AM/PM No Matter Whether Dreck
8 D. Brown & Konrad Black Bildeburg Group Volt Musik
9 Ada Eve (DJ Koze Remix) Areal (this is a misprint - it's actually the Sascha Funke remix of "Lifedriver" on the flipside)
10 Steve Barnes Cosmic Sandwich (Dominik Eulberg Remix) MBF Limited
11 Mathew Jonson Folding Space Substatic
12 Luciano Octogonal Cadenza
13 Marek Hemmann Ropy Milnormodern
14 Closer Musik Maria Kompakt

ARAM CHAPERS
1 Superpitcher Tell Me About It Kompakt
2 Claude Vonstroke Seven Deadly Strokes (Patrick Chardronnet Remix) Neuton Music
3 Matt John Behind The Atoms Underline
4 Gui Boratto Arquipelago K2
5 [T]ekel vs Tim Paris Marketel Marketing
6 Crowdpleaser & St Plomb Today Mental Groove Ltd
7 Dapayk Solo Salieri Karloff
8 Gui Boratto Sozinho K2
9 Chloe Take Care Crack & Speed
10 Aswefall Youngeez (Schaeben & Voss Remix) Kill The DJ
11 Pier Bucci L Nuit (Dominik Eulberg Remix) Crosstown Rebels
12 Shyza Minelli Shyza All Night Long Substatic
13 John Tejada Asanebo Pokerflat
14 Villalobos Dexter Playhouse

... The Superpitcher track, which I always thought was just quite-good, sounds amazing as a mix opener. And Ronan was so right about the Shyza Minelli track, luvvit! Also nice to finally see someone catch onto "Sozinho".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Re Shyza, if I'm ever to make a song/album/anything I'm totally gonna steal "To All The Boys I've Loved Before" for the title.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

Listening to Ronan's most recent mix: loving what I assume is Someone Else's "Water In Mexicao", it's got that same stuttery nervous epic feel as "Funny Wawa".

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

It's Marek Hemann's remix of the same...

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 09:36 (nineteen years ago)

I'm loving Dapayk Solo's Impulsion Parasite record, have we talked about this at all? Really shows you a harder and sharper side of minimal, and works very well as a full-length. Might be my favorite dance record of the year.

Jena (JenaP), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and his MySpace profile features this

http://myspace-399.vo.llnwd.net/00915/99/30/915290399_l.jpg

Jena (JenaP), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

Absolutely adoring the Bodzin/Huntemann remix of Depeche Mode's "Everything Counts", these two were born to remix Depeche Mode (and lord knows it now feels like everyone has tried). The remix can't decide if it wants to be a "Doppelwhipper" style sparkly random sound fest or dark techy stormer. Have to admit I don't like everything Bodzin and co do but when on form they are so good, I love how Bodzin strikes that balance between functionalism ("worker records" as per Ronan, and the implied Von Stroke resemblance is not totally off-base perhaps) and gothic melodrama, everything is designed to hit you right between your mascara'd eyes. I love it when they loop Martin Gore sighing "the grabbing hands grab all they can, all for themselves after all", and then Gahan announces "it's a competitive world!" and the tune drops.

Speaking of Von Stroke and goth, I suppose his remix of Freaks' "Ghouls" is relevant here, although that's good the expected quirky edge that makes it more funny than anything else. Still great, but "Chimps" is the scarier record perhaps.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 3 November 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

yes Ghouls is kind of funny, I don't think it descends into wackiness though, more funny in a sort of traditional Chicago house psycho way.....

I like a decent amount of Bodzin/Huntemann but they release so much that it's a bit annoying sometimes...the records sound amazing in clubs tho...

Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

when Bodzin is good, he's great, but I guess he does put out a lot of generic sounding stuff. none of it sounds bad to me -- perhaps those are "workers"

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 3 November 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone know where/how to get that Martyr club promo that has the Bodzin/Huntemann and Villalobos mixes on it?

jeffery (jeffery), Friday, 3 November 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, the Huntemann and Bodzin Depeche Mode remix is a fucking beast.

struttin' with some barbecue (jimnaseum), Friday, 3 November 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

another good Bodzin & Huntemann that's flying under the radar is their remix of Sono - Blame. DEEP BASS

Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 3 November 2006 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

yeah that one's ace as well.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 3 November 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago)

I think I heard that Dapayk one on the weekend. It was really well produced, like standing right there in front of you instead of produced at second remove. impressive, and like Jena says, sharp.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Friday, 3 November 2006 23:52 (nineteen years ago)

I tried to work out the stylistic breakdown of Bodzin vs Bodzin/Romboy vs Bodzin/Schumacher vs Bodzin/Huntemann, but it's kind of hard. It seems like, most of the time, when Bodzin works with any of his collaborators they tend to create these dark brooding epics, but Bodzin's own stuff by comparison usually tends towards the overblown - closer to some mid-point between Huntemann and Schumacher's solo work than any of his collaborations. Maybe I've just heard the wrong tracks.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 3 November 2006 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

I just tend to assume everything is produced by Bodzin and the other guy just makes the tea :) Maybe my favourite recent one was Kerosene. A bit Border Community in vibe for some, but I heard it as the closer out the other night and it just worked, like Ronan says. The crowd went bonkers.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Saturday, 4 November 2006 00:07 (nineteen years ago)

I think my favourite in that style is probably "Miranda" with Romboy. Overall my favourites are probably still "SL Mirage" and "Atlas" because I am a Get Physical disco slut.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 4 November 2006 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

Now you've made me play Atlas, Tim! Yeah, definite GF vibe there. Do you think Get Physical have moved away a bit from that sound now? I dunno too much about it, but they seem about to ditch the electro for more of a house vibe (Jay Haze esp). I haven't heard the MANDY mix.

I like the Williams remix of Marc Romboy's Impact Disco, the bass is in a Get Physical vein.

Good Dog (Good Dog), Saturday, 4 November 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno, have there been enough GP releases since the Fuckpony album to judge? "Night Falls" was basically in the same vein as "Atlas" and "SL Mirage" - and DJ T's current sound is in a similar vein as well.

The MANDY mix is generally more typically minimal than Haze-house per se.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 4 November 2006 04:27 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, I've just heard this in th elatest Pigon set on Betalounge, what is the song that has the male vocals "All around us lovers, all around us people everywhere". It's so good.

Jena (JenaP), Saturday, 4 November 2006 07:44 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds like it might be Superpitcher, but I don't think it is.

Jena (JenaP), Saturday, 4 November 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

Oops, and the set is by Efdemin & Carsten Klemann, not Pigon.

Jena (JenaP), Saturday, 4 November 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone heard the M.A.N.D.Y. and Booka Shade or the Tiefschwarz mixes of Roxy Music?

Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 4 November 2006 22:00 (nineteen years ago)

yup. they're ok.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Sunday, 5 November 2006 06:28 (nineteen years ago)

Damning with faint praise there!

struttin' with some barbecue (jimnaseum), Sunday, 5 November 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

the Kaos extended mix is by far my favorite on the ep, followed by the Tiefschwarz. now if you'll excuse me i have to drop off a rent check...

yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Sunday, 5 November 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

anyone heard the new Mobilee comp (not sure if it techniqually mini house, but whatevs) mixed by Anja methinks?

T. Weiss (Timmy), Monday, 6 November 2006 06:51 (nineteen years ago)

Yup. Disc 1 is an ace comp of the label's best recent 12-inches, and 2 is all remixes, mixed together by Schneider. It's great.

braveclub (braveclub), Monday, 6 November 2006 11:32 (nineteen years ago)

I felt much like Ambrose and Tokyo Ghost Stories upthread, so I created a minimal house bobbins 2006 station on last.fm to hear some of what's being talked about here.
Those with players or those who want to dl a player (it's free and fun for all the family) can listen at this page", presuming i am linking successfully, which is by no means certain.

There's almost a hundred tracks streamed at 128 whatchamacallems. If it was from late 2005, and talked about here, I tried to include it. I even included Brutalga Square, just for kicks. There are limits to what is available at last.fm, for instance in the Freunde am Tanzen/Vakant/einmaleins/Mobilee departments. Those with the ability must continue to lean on Philip Sherburne for a mix.

If you try to give it a listen, tell me about any problems or criticisms you may have. Cheers.

deekew (deekew), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmph. plz hold.

deekew (deekew), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

this? or maybe this?

deekew (deekew), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Yep

deekew (deekew), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

Oh and there's a GummiHz track for download here: http://www.plexrecords.com/releases.html

deekew (deekew), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

Loco Dice - 'Raindrops on my Window'. Pretty amazing.

Just discovered this entry in the teardrop house list: Bodzin & Romboy's 'Phobos'

Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

wtf, anyone know Africans With Mainframes? listening to their two 12-inches from this year, and are really cool, leftfield house, maybe in the pom pom/STL mode, but with more going on rhythmically

Dominique (dleone), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

Can't search for the Get Physical thread at the moment, but i feel it's important to stress just how brilliant the Fuckpony album is, probably my second favourite album of the year. "It's Only Music" in particular is just amazing - this music is so rich and yet so hooky!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:01 (nineteen years ago)

Also "Get Pony" - basically everytime things get hyper-riffy.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm also super-pumped for this Jay Haze double mix-cd coming out in December - looks like an excellent overview of the Tuning Spork sound.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:42 (nineteen years ago)

looking good, his new 12 on TS is nice too. Plus he has 2 or 3 other decent releases at the moment.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 00:52 (nineteen years ago)

i like "make money hoes" from the fuckpony album which instead of being riffier is trackier or the riffs are simply the changing drum patterns every x number of bars. it's a cool track because it seems to have as many parts as it does minutes making it very different from some of the hyperextended releases this year.

josh. (disco stu), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:06 (nineteen years ago)

cannot wait to hear the dapayk album. i am waiting to get the double cd and i have high hopes for goodness. what's amazing is that he must've released ten or more singles this year and the lp is all new material.

josh. (disco stu), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

I also love whichever one it is that goes "I gotta shake my ass/you gotta move that ass/I can't let that pass/fuck a pony" - can't remember if that's "Make Money Hoes" or "Bongo Porn" off the top of my head. It's so druggy though!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

that's "bongo porn". it also has the great lyric, "artificial happiness makes me numb."

josh. (disco stu), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

anyone heard jeff samuel's step yet? looking forward to that one too.

josh. (disco stu), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:31 (nineteen years ago)

Only heard "You Will Never Know" but that's great - a bit bouncy and restless in that Samuel manner but also lots of pretty synth patterns and piano chords, then hippy shoegazer guitar whine towards the end to make everything anthemic.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

wtf, anyone know Africans With Mainframes? listening to their two 12-inches from this year, and are really cool, leftfield house, maybe in the pom pom/STL mode, but with more going on rhythmically

I think I have roughly half the stuff that involves Jamal Moss in some form. Most of it is nasty, nasty, off-the-wall (i.e., great) shit.

Andy_K (Andy_K), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)

Hieroglyphic Being, the Sun God, I.B.M. all that stuff is great. I was listening to I.B.M.'s My Life As A Skinny Puppy 12" the other day where all the tracks come to a boiling point only to suddenly cut off. Weird.

Jena (JenaP), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:26 (nineteen years ago)

OK so I spent the evening listening to a whole lot of this stuff on last.fm. I'm going to tell you for some reason how it was. as far as i can remember. and with the caveat that i don't know about this stuff.

First track up was 2005 bobbins Pier Bucci - Pipostrack. I was amazed. So beautiful. I'd heard people be rather sniffy about Trentemoller and couldn't understand it, based on the one track i had had for a long time, Take Me Under Your Skin, which i love, and whose big washes of sound appeal to the shoegazer in me. And that moment when the drums come clicking, what could compare? Well, maybe lots of things, if the first song that comes on mb2006 radio is as pretty as this. Quick realization: there's a whole year of beautiful music going on that I know nothing about.

Next up was Mikkel Metal - Align. Very nice. Then came Troy Pierce - Smack the Black Off Ya, a less than charming title but a decent tough dirty tune which went really well into Ellen Alien - Down (Dinky Remix), also tough and dirty but a lot more playful and bouncy. I accidently played the Paul Anka "the guys get shirts" rant thing over the top of them, so i thought i was a superstar dj and everything was going swimmingly. Trentemoller- Serenetti (Hemman + Kaden Remix), SCSI-9 - Ne Contson a Coltsom (2005?), SChatrax - Mispent Years...oh my: the dreamy gorgeousness! I am Dr. Cuddlestein! Hear what I have wrought!

Efdemin - Jean was almost as nice. The superpitcher remix of the MFA - the difference it makes was good, but didn't really fit (if that doesn't make people roffle; for all i know much of this stuff doesn't fit). At some stage Dapayk & Padberg's 2005 Use Your Arms came on, which I found rather silly. Bretter D D Welt Bereute by them came on later and was much much better, rocked a good deal, if i recall. Their Close Up struck me as wussy at first, but about half way through suddenly it was an excellent clicky, bright, intriguing groove, it seemed to me. Dunno what changed, I think the track eventually calls time on the trip-hop-y vocal.

Vladishav Delay Remix of Rhythm and Sound's Truly is easilythe best one, i think. I knew this really well, must be on some mix i've got.

So you get the idea, really beautiful stuff. But then came Paul Woodward - Erotic Discourse, Tomsan+Daniel De la Curtis - Synthic, Sascha Funke-In Between Days, one of the worst runs of music i've sat through lately. What was I thinking putting Erotic Discourse on this thing? Curse whoever mentioned it. I can see how if the crowd's up for it and and you know what you are doing, you can play something into this and out of it and they'll go bananas, but really, it's so graceless and blunt and as subtle, drawn-out and painful as the charge of the light brigade. I don't know anything about anything, but surely something like say a Booka Shade track can do this and be a little set in miniature and, yanno, be good, so begone Mr. Woodward. Synthic is too synthetic (i'm a genius, i know). It's the sound of lino. IBD is a bit better, but still really dull.

Carst Jost - Uccellini came next so i perked up, because Last.fm had once played me something from a messed up version of kompaktCD15 that it said was Don't Need A Weatherman but discogs sez different, but anyway was really really beautiful. Uccellini was good, but not that good, not after that run anyhow.

GummiHz - Feedback is interesting. Boy is it minimal. And actually goes plip plop quite a bit. Bonus points. Not sure it would wander within a few miles of a dancefloor though. Like to be there if it did.

Paul Kalkbrenner: Atzpeng > freunde blase > keule.

Mikkel Metal - Memories. Unlike Align - a laid-back pretty melodic thing with beats just menacing beneath it, i thiiiiink - this is atmospheric dubby (?) synthpoppy and rather Junior Boys-y. It's lovely. I think Merek Bois is here coz he's the 2006 incarnation of dpayk? Anyway he's on the dirty, almost banging side, not mad about it. Shane Berry Fillertet2 Rmx = very good. RAdio Slave - my bleep and SCSI-9 - Eclair de Lune = Great. Very very pretty. My favourites seem to bee these kind of murderous beasts who are just too happy to do anything but lollop along dreaming, clicking here, shuffling there, synths whistling cheerfully.

So i think i'll prune this station, get rid of what strikes me as the obvious duds at least, add as many of the big tunes from the other thread as are available, add Alex Under's' 2005 Dispositivos de Mi Granja maybe? And maybe refine it further after further listens.

So anyway, what's like Pier Bucci - Pipostrack, hmmmm?

deekew (deekew), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 02:40 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...
what do we think of resident advisor's 2006 top 30 then?

http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature_view.asp?ID=781

I still like "In White Rooms" way less than I think I'm supposed too, I even prefer that 'dull' Sascha Funke track, being a touch sharper on the trance, the long melody engaging right throughout the breakdown(& up) grindings. Sorta reminds me of a less 'big' Gazebo.

worst handle ever (fandango), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

that Tobias. track (Street Knowledge) is great too, "Below Houston" on the Cassy mix ended up being one of my favourite things on it weirdly. I know not everyone wants to hear minimal so completely stripped down & bare (& stiff/funky) that it's heading towards Robert Hood as much as it is PROPAH house all night long, but if there's going to be less & less pure rhythmic interest (microhouse...) or pychedelicishness going on inbetween the serial monogamy of more & more 10 minute 'subtle' building tracks ala "Full Clip" in 2007 as minimal crosses over even more... I'd like to hope the simple appeal of a bit of good, tough banging won't become completely passe.

worst handle ever (fandango), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

^horrible post, I'm not sure what I'm trying to reach at exactly. Just a bit tired of this trend of long house/techno tracks that sound utterly complete & functional within themselves but are equally flimsy as hell and a bit hookless?

worst handle ever (fandango), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

hmmm. try here:Minimal house bobbins 2007. this thread is too unwieldy.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

I wasn't going to post about a list of 2006 tracks in a 2007 thread :/

worst handle ever (fandango), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

This thread starts with someone posting about something from 2003 :)

jimn (jimnaseum), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

sixteen years pass...

Listening to a lot of Audio Werner today, never really clocked him before (hearing 'Trust' on a playlist is what did it). Perfect work (not business) techno.

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Wednesday, 14 June 2023 17:50 (two years ago)


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