― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 10 July 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)
Marilynne Robinson's "Gilead" which is beautiful and precise and wonderful and complex and still. I'm reading it very slowly and, for the first time in a long time, i'm in no particular rush to reach the end. i LOVE this book. please read it.
Thanks for the new thread!
― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 10 July 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 10 July 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)
speaking of interviews, the 2nd interview ever with cormac mccarthy is in the new vanity fair. very interesting, and i'm not really a fan or anything. he's just interesting. he spends all his time writing at a scientific think-tank in santa fe! who knew? he is the only writer there.
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 11 July 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)
And I've got Whitman's "Leaves of Grass" I'm about to crack open. This Norton volume contain both the deathbed and 1855 editions. Any advice on which one to read first?
― mj (robert blake), Monday, 11 July 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 11 July 2005 01:59 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 11 July 2005 02:03 (twenty years ago)
― mj (robert blake), Monday, 11 July 2005 02:42 (twenty years ago)
I recommend you start with one section -- the "Song of Myself", say -- and read both versions and decide which you prefer, and go from there.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 11 July 2005 02:55 (twenty years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 11 July 2005 03:08 (twenty years ago)
― Lady Lazarus, Monday, 11 July 2005 06:38 (twenty years ago)
plus, the original is more punchy. but if i recall correctly there's no 'eidolons' in that one, which is slightly too bad just because i find it kind of endearing in its repetition of 'eidolons' despite otherwise not being all that.
eidolons!
― Josh (Josh), Monday, 11 July 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)
― snotty moore, Monday, 11 July 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)
But now I am going to start reading *Singing from the Well* by Reinaldo Arenas.
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 11 July 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)
After I finish that I'm going to read Catch-22-- I think I'm the only person alive who has never read it.
― jedidiah (jedidiah), Monday, 11 July 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 11 July 2005 16:20 (twenty years ago)
i've got a friend who has read Ulysses, War & Peace etc i.e. all those supposed inpenetrable books, but she just can't get past the first 10 pages of Catch 22. i think she's tried about 5 times now!
anyway, i've just finished "my fault" by billy childish. like a british "ham on rye" bukowski, he can write ok but it was relentlessly depressing. i want some literary chocolate now.
― zappi (joni), Monday, 11 July 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)
Now I'm reading O Pioneers! by Willa Cather, which is suiting me very well in current circumstances.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:50 (twenty years ago)
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)
I used to enjoy watching The Waltons on Sunday mornings when I was wretched with hangover, it felt soothing to the soul. So does this. I haven't got to the bit where they do "Long Shot Kick De Bucket", yet.
The front of "Back" has a Victor Pasmore painting of a naked woman's back.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)
Now reading Lanark by Alasdair Gray.
― zan, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:32 (twenty years ago)
After this, I want to read Pale Horse, Pale Rider by Katherine Anne Porter, and then a couple more Wodehouses: The Luck of the Bodkins and The Code of the Woosters. And after that Emily of New Moon by L.M. Montgomery.
― Gail S, Tuesday, 12 July 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)
I'm reading "Ghost Story" by Peter Straub. It's too darn hot here so maybe this will give me some much-needed chills. Shame I'm a slow reader, or I could fan myself by wooshing through the pages.
― Øystein (Øystein), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)
The book club at work is doing Time Traveler's Wife, but I'm not sure that I would enjoy reading it.
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 12 July 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)
And I'll always be a cheerleader for Ghostwritten...
― zan, Wednesday, 13 July 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)
― Megan, Thursday, 14 July 2005 14:56 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 14 July 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 14 July 2005 17:55 (twenty years ago)
michel houllebecq's worldview is the most misanthropic and repellent thing i have ever read. i think his books are poorly written and his philosophy is too bleak and childish for me. yet, i've read them all and would leap to read the next one. i enjoy the sex, sure, but mostly i think his nasty, repugnant views are like a guilty pleasure for me - they are so genuine and biting, and i love black humour.
― j fail (cenotaph), Thursday, 14 July 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 14 July 2005 19:57 (twenty years ago)
― Navek Rednam (Navek Rednam), Thursday, 14 July 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 15 July 2005 11:44 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 15 July 2005 17:49 (twenty years ago)
I just finished "Plan B," by Anne Lamott. A good book, a sequel to "Tender Mercies."
― pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Friday, 15 July 2005 18:14 (twenty years ago)
j lethem, 'the disappointment artist'. has its moments. will revive that old thread once i'm done with it, mebbe.
steve erickson.
'1968 in america' by iforgetwho, my sister bought it for me years ago, it annoys me.
next up: more steve erickson, delillo's 'end zone', if i don't have a summer job by the end of the month proust
― tom west (thomp), Friday, 15 July 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)
― Mr. Jaggers, Friday, 15 July 2005 21:43 (twenty years ago)
― derrick (derrick), Saturday, 16 July 2005 07:19 (twenty years ago)
― Navek Rednam (Navek Rednam), Sunday, 17 July 2005 07:04 (twenty years ago)
― SRH (Skrik), Sunday, 17 July 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 17 July 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)
― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Sunday, 17 July 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 17 July 2005 23:38 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Monday, 18 July 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)
― youn, Monday, 18 July 2005 10:00 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 18 July 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Monday, 18 July 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)
Blub fest!
I am almost finished my Nadine Gordimer and will then read some Beryl Bainbridge book which has such a terrible seventies cover, complete with awful photo, that I am embarrassed to be seen with it and will not read it in public, but huddled in a corner somewhere. Luckily it is very short.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 18 July 2005 13:04 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Monday, 18 July 2005 14:31 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 18 July 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)
Now I'm reading "The Ballad Of Peckham Rye" by Muriel Spark, because thats' where I live. It's already mentioned two of my favourite pubs and I'm only on page 15.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 09:50 (twenty years ago)
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 09:57 (twenty years ago)
I'm reading Wouk's mammoth "Winds of War", followed, if I gots the guts, by the sequel "War and Remembrance".
― Gatorskin, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 19:34 (twenty years ago)
― Navek Rednam (Navek Rednam), Tuesday, 19 July 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)
To think I almost put it down after a couple of pages because it looked too cyberpunky.
― Øystein (Øystein), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 01:56 (twenty years ago)
I am listening to these boring "History of Ancient Rome" lectures in the hopes that I'll be able to jump back into the Decline And Fall.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 04:03 (twenty years ago)
I'm reading something by Charlotte Mendelson, and Harry Potter.
― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 07:46 (twenty years ago)
Here it is:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0140260234/qid%3D1121855448/026-1079273-2068421
Customers who bought it also bought the Bloodaxe Book of Petry, so it probably is the one you've got.
I am now reading One Moonlit Night by Caradog Prichard. It is one page in Welsh, one page in English. I'm skipping the Welsh pages, so I'm getting through it quite quickly, 100 pages during this morning's 3 hour commuting odyssey. I think they say the same thing anyway.
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)
just started, will report back but so far it's pretty riveting
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 09:56 (twenty years ago)
I want to know what Youn thinks of Franzen's book.
I have started Oh Play That Thing. It is Fast-Moving. I wonder did AccentMonkey read it.
― the finefox, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 11:33 (twenty years ago)
No, it hasn't been donated yet. I am currently reading Sweet William by Beryl Bainbridge. It's so rooted in the early seventies, it's wonderful. Oh my god, I'm going to bed with a man! What will my mother think! And so on.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 11:49 (twenty years ago)
― the bellefox, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)
I cannot find my joke about "Back". Was it good?
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)
I suppose it could have gone, 'Put the book, "Back", on the shelf'.
― the bellefox, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 13:38 (twenty years ago)
― Peter Stringbender (PJ Miller), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)
everyone in the stores i asked about the disappointment artist thought the j i was looking for was j safran foer.
oh, x-post
fortress's overbearingness of style works in that the moment being described throughout pt one is meant to be one of incredible weight of potential; pt two is not written the same, really.
― tom west (thomp), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 21 July 2005 02:31 (twenty years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 21 July 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 22 July 2005 07:25 (twenty years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Friday, 22 July 2005 10:46 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 22 July 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 22 July 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)
Other people said that in school too, right?
Just finished reading Beryl Bainbridge. Great seventies detailing, like everyone trying to avoid tripping over the cord from the electric carving knife at Christmas dinner, and with some nice caustic lines in it. I do love Beryl Bainbridge.
Now reading The Good Doctor by Damon Galgut. Only 20 pages in, love it already.
And now I really am going to bed with a man. Because, like, it's bedtime.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 22 July 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)
― jeffrey (johnson), Friday, 22 July 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 22 July 2005 22:04 (twenty years ago)
about to start Vonnegut's "Slaughterhouse 5" - i've never ready any of his, i think he's quite an ILXy author is he not?
then probably George Saunders' "Pastoralia"
― jed_ (jed), Friday, 22 July 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 22 July 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 23 July 2005 07:39 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 23 July 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 23 July 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)
I think I'm living about a year in the past.
― Matt (Matt), Saturday, 23 July 2005 23:19 (twenty years ago)
For now I'm going to read A Heartbreaking Work Of Staggering Genius by Dave Eggers.
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Sunday, 24 July 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 25 July 2005 07:50 (twenty years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Monday, 25 July 2005 07:56 (twenty years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Monday, 25 July 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)
Now I'm reading 'A Box of Matches' which has already inexplicably made me cry at the breakfast table (scuse the split infinitive). Tears are rarely that far away at the moment though.
― Archel (Archel), Monday, 25 July 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)
In preparation for a forthcoming trip to Cork, I was thinking about beginning to read some Roy Keane.
― Tim (Tim), Monday, 25 July 2005 12:44 (twenty years ago)
I have only read those two though!
― Archel (Archel), Monday, 25 July 2005 13:14 (twenty years ago)
This is certainly one of those books that will make me think differently about my life, my memories. It's making me want to go back and finish Svetlana Boym's The Future of Nostalgia as well.
― zan, Monday, 25 July 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Monday, 25 July 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)
― Megan, Tuesday, 26 July 2005 04:32 (twenty years ago)
southern's the making of the middle ages is really really well written.
oh i read that book on enron "the smartest guys in the room" -- totally one of the best invst journo boox i've read.
i came this close to buying painters' book on the gilded age but it rilly didn't seem as good on a skim as i'd hoped.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 04:49 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 05:05 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 26 July 2005 05:25 (twenty years ago)
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 00:53 (twenty years ago)
Now I am reading "Leonardo's Judas" by Leo Perutz. I heart Leo Perutz, and this is the only one of his, uh, major works* which I'm yet to read. I was given it for Christmas and I've been saving it for the right moment. Now is the time.
*I haven't yet read "From Nine To Nine", which I have a copy of, or "The Third Bullet" which it appears is impossible to find in English. But these are recognised, it seems, as relatively minor in Perutzworld.
― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)
Must be that time of year again.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 10:54 (twenty years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:00 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:19 (twenty years ago)
Up next is probably the new Harry Potter. The anti-ponderous.
― stewart downes (sdownes), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)
― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 19:53 (twenty years ago)
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)
I just bought "Who Could Ask For Anything More" by E. Merman at the library store, and I am damned excited about it. I'm trying to figure out a way to make poetry out of it. I am thinking about combining it somehow with "Making of Americans" by G. Stein and seeing what happens.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 28 July 2005 05:53 (twenty years ago)
― Cherish, Thursday, 28 July 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)
And loving it!
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 28 July 2005 20:19 (twenty years ago)
I am reading "fischer Vs. spassky, the new york times account"
― cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 28 July 2005 20:34 (twenty years ago)
Thank God for libraries
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Thursday, 28 July 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)
From E. Merman's "Who Could Ask For Anything More", since I can't find the "post a line or two" thread:
"I'm no connoisseur. I don't eat potatoes -- too starchy -- but if I did I'd be a meat-and-potatoes girl."
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 29 July 2005 05:58 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 29 July 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Friday, 29 July 2005 07:41 (twenty years ago)
Now I am reading "The Truth About The Irish", by Terry Eagleton, as recommended to me by One Of Us. It starts rather badly but I'm hoping it will pick up.
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 29 July 2005 07:51 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 29 July 2005 08:48 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Friday, 29 July 2005 09:11 (twenty years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 29 July 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)
Archel that was "Independent People" by Halldor Laxness, which I'm assured is rather better than "The Atom Station" which I have read and only enjoyed a bit. As far as interesting nordic types go, I think he's no Torgny Lindgren, if you know what I mean.
While we're here Archel, the thing I hope you're reading is your email at your slightly foxed account, or the screen of your mobile telephone, either of which should tell you that you have messages!
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 29 July 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 29 July 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Friday, 29 July 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 29 July 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)
Who was it that wrote the book that the film Elling was based on? Norwegian? I was interested to read that.
― Archel (Archel), Friday, 29 July 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)
How's that working out for you, Tom?
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 July 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)
Perhaps David Thomson made the difference?
I have an Ethel Merman CD.
TH, I suppose that TE's book is patchy. There is a woeful moment, for instance, when he says 'the fairies have left Ireland; rumour has it they ended up in San Francisco'. But I like it somewhat, still, for (as I said) it is such an odd artefact, from such a writer; it is genuinely funny at times, I think; and it contains a remarkable amount of facts and information.
― the finefox, Saturday, 30 July 2005 09:38 (twenty years ago)
(The English titles are direct translations by me, I don't know if any are available in English)
--
I've just finished reading Fritz Leiber's The Big Time, which I didn't like all that much. It's standing together with Niven's "Ringworld" as the Huge winner I've enjoyed the least. At least this was short enough that I managed to bring myself to finish it though. Still, it was somewhat interesting to see a science fiction novel that's essentially a locked room mystery play.
Just started on Ian McDonald's River of Gods, which seems nice. Hopefully the off-putting 'Neuromancer' comparison in one of the review snippets is rubbish.
― Øystein (Øystein), Saturday, 30 July 2005 10:31 (twenty years ago)
He's good really, Archel. Although to be honest the only Laxness I've read was The Atom Station, which probably made more sense if you knew more about Iceland in the 1950s than I do.
At present, I have Hawksmoor by Peter Ackroyd in my work bag, in the hope that I will start reading it in my lunch breaks. So far it hasn't worked. I'm also reading a big book called A World History of Photography.
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 30 July 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)
By Henry Green.
Boom boom!
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 1 August 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)
Well, I would be if I had picked it up from my 'books to read' pile this morning. Instead I picked up "A Balcomy In The Forest" by Julien Gracq. He taught Georges Perec, you know.
I have finished reading "The Truth About The Irish" and it does pick up, though not as far as I'd hoped. I think it's fair to say that TE has a long way to go as a comic writer, though I laughed a handful of times. Some of the things he says are inexplicable, such as when he notes that the Irish will call you by your first name as soon as you're introduced, while the English will wait for the eighth or ninth time (NB this is my paraphrase at best). I mean, that's obviously not true, but I also can't see how it works as humour or even as exaggerated stereotype. I'm quite pleased I read it, perhaps mainly for the factual content. It has made me keener to read "Keane" too.
I read "Sofia Petrovna" by Lydia Chukovskaya, too. The back cover calls it "searing". It's certainly rather upsetting. It claims to be the only more-or-less contemporary fictional account of Stalin's mid-thirties purges. I liked it very much.
― Tim (Tim), Monday, 1 August 2005 08:21 (twenty years ago)
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 1 August 2005 11:01 (twenty years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 1 August 2005 12:46 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)
I haven't read any of the Baroque cycle, just listened to Maddie lay into it a lot. :>
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:24 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)
Finished the communal Archel household reading of Harry Potter on Saturday - reading out loud sucks when you get to the end of books and your voice just can't keep up with the exciting denouement, it's very tempting to read ahead silently and get walloped by your audience.
― Archel (Archel), Monday, 1 August 2005 13:46 (twenty years ago)
― zan, Monday, 1 August 2005 14:24 (twenty years ago)
― Joe Kay (feethurt), Monday, 1 August 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)
― Navek Rednam (Navek Rednam), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:24 (twenty years ago)
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 1 August 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 06:57 (twenty years ago)
What is Boris Akunin like Joe? I was thinking of investigating him/buying 'The Winter Queen' for a friend.
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 07:22 (twenty years ago)
"A Balcony In The Forest", as of nearly half-way through, is a wonderful thing. It's beautifully written (translated) and there's something about a precision in the use of metaphor which I want to say but can't, not at this time in the morning.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 08:19 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 08:58 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)
Tim, I'll have a think about what to recommend in Cork.
― Joe Kay (feethurt), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 11:20 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)
― jedidiah (jedidiah), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 14:54 (twenty years ago)
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 17:48 (twenty years ago)
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Tuesday, 2 August 2005 21:36 (twenty years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 06:33 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 07:59 (twenty years ago)
Also reading Sinfield on post-war culture, properly at very long last (I like his plainness); and Amis again alas.
― the bellefox, Wednesday, 3 August 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 13:25 (twenty years ago)
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Wednesday, 3 August 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)
― Docpacey (docpacey), Thursday, 4 August 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)
i just finished book one today and went and did something else, which felt good. i did however look around on the internet and found one very neat twist apparently introduced in book three.
it's weird: it seems to me like the thing would be of no possible interest to readers not primed on the themes by cryptonomicon? well, this is an exagerration. but i can't imagine the opening having enough weight otherwise for anyone to go "okay i want another three thousand pages of this..." (apparently there are several MORE books abt. the waterhouse dynasty, and cryptology, and the history of money. (i think the first future one will be U&K in that it will NOT require the hanging-around-actual-historical-people bit - that one waterhouse is pacing turing and another is pacing newton is somewhat beyond belief, and to have one where another waterhouse paced charles babbage and ada lovelace, say, would be very much beyond belief.) )
i dunno how to actually rate it as a novel. newton/leibniz interests me as a topic, as does the stuff on the history of england-as-democracy. the stuff on money and crypto is sort of interesting, but less so than in the first half of cryptonomicon. the second half of cryptonomicon i still don't know if i rate: i mean i know it has thematic justification up the wazoo, but i still don't want any kind of book i'm reading to turn out to be about nazi gold. (stephenson lets some of his conforming-to-genre in quicksilver get by in a sort of nudge-wink metafictional recurring thread, mentioning picaresque novels or "picaroon-romances" or whatever perhaps a bit much; also, so far about thirteen or fourteen different things have been compared to mercury, or the appearance of mercury, or how mercury moves around if you pour it, or how mercury acts in a thermometer, or the possible value of mercury as a clothes dye, or the effect of mercury on the digestion, and it is getting rather tiresome.)
i'm surprised at how not-awful the structure of it is, though. that's as far as i'm going on that account, for now.
has a fair bit in common with mason & dixon: way, way more than cryptonomicon ever did with GR, anyway.
my DAD is reading cryptonomicon, btw.
― tom west (thomp), Thursday, 4 August 2005 20:30 (twenty years ago)
― Jane Smith, Friday, 5 August 2005 06:18 (twenty years ago)
Now I'm on to "The Fifth Corner Of The Room" by Israel Metter. More Soviet-era business, starts off being just the kind of chirpy miserabilism I respond to.
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 5 August 2005 07:49 (twenty years ago)
I'm reading 'Girl in Landscape' now. It's good. But I always imagine when a 'literary' author sits down to write a sort of sci-fi book, them having a thought process like: 'wow, this is great, I'm setting a book on another planet/in the future/both, what totally random thing can I invent now I am not constrained by present reality? I know! Tiny silvery household deer! Haha brilliant!'
'Real' sci-fi often seems much more logically rigorous, somehow.
― Archel (Archel), Friday, 5 August 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Friday, 5 August 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Friday, 5 August 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 5 August 2005 12:05 (twenty years ago)
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Friday, 5 August 2005 22:11 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Friday, 5 August 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 6 August 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)
So, I started "Robinson Crusoe" instead!
― Øystein (Øystein), Saturday, 6 August 2005 12:12 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 6 August 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)
is river of gods one of the two singularity novels on the hugo list? or am i thinking of something else?
― tom west (thomp), Saturday, 6 August 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)
― Øystein (Øystein), Saturday, 6 August 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)
Which is the catchphrase from Hemingway's "A Clean Well-Lighted Place."
Ha-cha-cha-cha.
― k/l (Ken L), Saturday, 6 August 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 6 August 2005 19:13 (twenty years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Saturday, 6 August 2005 20:45 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Sunday, 7 August 2005 06:16 (twenty years ago)
I liked it a whole lot, and you probably would too, but I would guess that most non-fans/musicians would find it a bit boring. It's basically FW describing the endless musician's cycle of being broke, putting together bands/getting hired, gigging, touring, recording, touring, and having it end or fall apart for some reason. Usually money. Repeat, over the course of a lifetime.
He gets pretty snarky about his fellow musicians and bosses, which is fun, but it's amazing he manages to gloss over his personal life. Not a big deal, since the focus is clearly on his musical life, but it's funny when he tosses in "so I married my childhood sweetheart" who he's never mentioned before or when you're wondering what happened to the wife & kids during the "sex & cocaine" years.
― Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 7 August 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)
― Navek Rednam (Navek Rednam), Sunday, 7 August 2005 23:12 (twenty years ago)
faulkner knows it's confusing as fuck and compensates for that in the (iirc) second to last (jason's) section. as i recall there were a couple major major plot points i was still more or less in the dark about until i read that part. it's def worth it to keep going, esp. if you haven't even gotten out of the first section, which, let's face it, blows.
― John (jdahlem), Sunday, 7 August 2005 23:14 (twenty years ago)
PS: Thank you, Mooro, for this book.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 8 August 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)
I'm taking a break from library books to read all the Hitchhikers Guide books again, and I keep annoying Matt by giggling in bed.
― Archel (Archel), Monday, 8 August 2005 07:53 (twenty years ago)
― Navek Rednam (Navek Rednam), Monday, 8 August 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)
Making mistakes is nothing new for me.I was thinking I may try to pick it up again before I return it but I don't think I'll bother. It's a bit disappointing considering, as I mentioned earlier, how much I liked As I Lay Dying and Light In August.
I'll probably end up giving it another chance sometime in the distant future
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Monday, 8 August 2005 14:59 (twenty years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)
Is House of leaves REALLY any good? I have it checked out but can't decide if I should read it or not.
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:48 (twenty years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 8 August 2005 15:54 (twenty years ago)
I never managed to finish reading it though.
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)
Censorship was once a predictable topic, dividing liberals and conservatives down the middle on issues like obscenity and national security. Today, the debate over the regulation of speech offers no such easy dichotomy, with feminists joining forces with religious fundamentalists to control pornography, and abortion rights advocates seeking to restrict clinic demonstrations while prolife groups defend their freedom to picket. Underlying this trend is a fundamental intellectual shift--exemplified by the work of Michel Foucault--that holds that the state is not the only agent of censorship. The thirteen contributors here explore the topic of censorship from the viewpoint of numerous disciplines and viewpoints.
― Paper and Packaging (dymaxia), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)
― Paper and Packaging (dymaxia), Monday, 8 August 2005 17:41 (twenty years ago)
What caught me was the Author's Note by Hesse that he wrote the book as a fifty-year-old and that it dealt with the problems of being that age, and he couldn't figure out why so many readers of the book were so young and was puzzled by what they seemed to get out of it.
By coicidence, I am exactly fifty years old. So I bought a copy for 50 cents and I'm reading it.
I haven't finished it, yet (I'm about 3/4 through it) but I'll be hanged if I know what a teenager would make of this book. I mean, the book is about dealing with the overhanging reality of death and breaking through the old crust of experience - and let's face it, death means something very different to a teenager compared to a fifty-year old like me. And the crust of old experience is not exactly a youth's main problem.
To a teenager, personal extinction is too mixed up in romantic notions of early death, sacrifice and melodrama. In contrast, I can start to feel death working into in my bones now. Nothing romantic about it. From what I've read so far, Hesse seems to be working at a story that would revive a middle-aged man's sense of life's innate heroism, rekindle his sense of faith and meaning, lighten some of the weight of memory and habit, and finally reconcile him to impending death. Not exactly a brew for kids.
At fifty, it's a lot easier to see all the stuff about suicide and sex and death and magic and immortality as useful symbols rather than as thrilling romance. Just by a natural inclination, I discount it all by half and arrive at a more sane interpretation of what Hesse was driving at - I think.
Anyway, that's a long-winded answer to the question of what I'm reading now.
― Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:15 (twenty years ago)
― John (jdahlem), Monday, 8 August 2005 18:50 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 8 August 2005 19:47 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 06:06 (twenty years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 06:10 (twenty years ago)
Hang on, I'll start a thread.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 06:13 (twenty years ago)
Not what I'd call a bundle of laughs, mind.
I am now reading "The Messenger" by Mayra Montero. I quite like Mayra Montero, although the two of her novels I've read before aren't really the sort of thing I usually enjoy (they're both sweaty, voodoo-ridden spooked affairs). This one's set in Cuba so I suppose won't strictly be voodoo-related but seems likely to be along the same lines. And I think it features Caruso, which can't be a bad thing.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 9 August 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)
I have started Shake! by Yvonne Roberts, which was so engrossing on the train this morning I forgot all about security alerts and stuff and was therefore surprised to see so many police at Paddington.
I think this is high praise indeed.
I bet I won't finish it either though.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)
Armed and dangerous : memoirs of a Chicago policewoman
― Land Ho (dymaxia), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)
lodge makes extravagent claims for the comic voice tho as being a relatively new and distinct one when it broke. these days it seems a dime a dozen, so i wonder how new it was. i know it's a stretch, but as far as precedents (i'm not bang-up on funny british lit so i've gotta reach) it has the same modernist comedy-of-manners touch as say, musil. maybe the difference is it ends so terribly pleasantly?
― Secundus Covarient (s_clover), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)
?!???
― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 19:45 (twenty years ago)
― Secundus Covarient (s_clover), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 20:51 (twenty years ago)
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)
― the bellefox, Monday, 15 August 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)
Now reading 'Small Island' which is nicely gripping.
― Archel (Archel), Monday, 15 August 2005 12:43 (twenty years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Monday, 15 August 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)
― Øystein (Øystein), Monday, 15 August 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)
― jedidiah (jedidiah), Monday, 15 August 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)
Tonight I will finish Roy Keane's autobiography. I haven't read a footballer's autobiography for a long, long time. I wonder if they are all so badly-paced?
Next I think I will try to find something Irish on my shelves which I haven't read before. I wonder if there is anything? If not, the pleasure of Myles.
― Tim (Tim), Monday, 15 August 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 15 August 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Monday, 15 August 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)
TH: I am trying to think of another Irish book for you, though I did not do too well with the last one. Do you like Ciaran Carson? I think I can imagine that you could. My favourite book of his is The Star Factory.
Maybe you would like Patrick McCabe, too, or Glenn Patterson (whose book That Which Was stands blue as the sky on my shelf). Actually, there is a load that you might like. John McGahern, for instance. Also, Roddy Doyle - I like the Last Round-Up sequence so far!
But I should not be distracting anyone from Myles.
The other night I turned off the radio before Janice Long came on and looked for something to read in bed. I lit in the end on Heaney, and reread a run of early poems - things like 'The Peninsula' and 'Personal Helicon'. Despite everything (whatever that is), I find that I still return to Heaney more than to almost any other poet. Perhaps it is the sheer bareness of those thin quatrains - the toughness of finding the meat of meaning on those bones.
― the finefox, Monday, 15 August 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 15 August 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)
― Navek Rednam (Navek Rednam), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)
I tried to keep track of everything I read after the 50 (last year?), and failed miserably. Good on ya though!
― Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 15 August 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)
― Navek Rednam (Navek Rednam), Monday, 15 August 2005 18:53 (twenty years ago)
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:00 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 15 August 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 15 August 2005 23:34 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 15 August 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)
I would like to read something disenchantingly funny.
(PF your Eagleton recommendation was a good one, and thanks. TTATI is an interesting and entertaining thing, but you know it has its problems. It also made an ideal gift for a friend of mine who has something of a fixation on his (possibly fictitious) Irish roots and who was at school with TE.)
Roy Keane, it turns out, is a bit of a plank. But I've always had a soft spot for monomaniacs.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)
Maybe I should read Rip It Up And Start Again next. I seem to be "in the mood".
But only reading, not listening.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)
No trendy GenX novels for him...
― whiteout (bobnope), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)
This will be book 25 for me; I wasn't aiming for 50, but I could come close if I applied myself. Do Gidget books count?
― zan, Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:25 (twenty years ago)
holy shit! how much hyperbole is involved here?
― John (jdahlem), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)
Now I'm a few chapters into David Mitchell's Ghostwritten.
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 16 August 2005 23:58 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 00:01 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 06:19 (twenty years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 07:43 (twenty years ago)
― frankiemachine, Wednesday, 17 August 2005 08:08 (twenty years ago)
I don't think I would ever have picked up a Heinlein book, except that this one is part of the Gollancz classic sci fi series and the other books I've read in that series have been great. Apart from Zelazny's Lord of Light, which appears to be wishy-washy hippy nonsense.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)
'four jazz lives' by spellmann (orig 'four lives in the bebop business): lots of surprising detail and quite a bit here even if you were to listen and dislike the music.
still reading lenin on hegel. seems useful (besides the actual content) as a guide on how to approach philosophical texts.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)
Ah, don't say that. Now I'm going to be reading it thinking "Ray is right! These people are taking it turns to play guru and idiot! I have been cheated!"
Speaking of, hands up who believes that Bush is really reading those three books on his vacation, and not listening to someone read him one-page summaries while he's in the gym?
I only know about Salt, which is mostly recipes, from what I remember. What are the other two?
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 12:21 (twenty years ago)
I actually prefer Heinlein's later stuff like To Sail Beyond the Sunset and The Cat Who Walks Through Walls to his "Golden Age" stuff. He's probably the only SF author I liked as a teenager that I still get the urge to read anymore.
― jedidiah (jedidiah), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)
It presents many scenarios drawn from history and archaeology where a society has established itself, seemed to thrive and then flamed out in some sort of self-inflicted disaster. Examples: Easter Island, the Norse Greenland colony of Eric the Red, the Maya of Yucatan. It shows how environmental distress and long-continued bad choices contributed to their collapse.
Alternatively, he presents scenarios of several societies coping with these stresses successfully. Examples: Tokugawa Japan dealing with deforestation problems, islands in Polynesia learning to deal with isolation and sustainability issues.
In the last part of the book I haven't read he gathers examples from modern states, then draws up broad conclusions on how to avoid getting driven to the wall as a society.
Impressions: It's a great concept and it assembles a large mass of information and mostly manages to synthesize it. There's a lot of incisive thinking going on here, even if it's not quite as fresh or new as Guns, Germs and Steel.
The only problem is that it seems a bit doughy and underdone, like it needed a longer time in the oven. I expect the publisher was overly anxious to capitalize on the success of Guns, Germs and Steel and rushed it out about a year too soon. It's not like it's badly written or organized, it's just a bit on the slack side and could have used some tightening up. This happens a lot these days.
― Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 17 August 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)
― the bellefox, Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:06 (twenty years ago)
― the pinefox, Thursday, 18 August 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)
I am not that keen on The Moon's A Harsh Mistress, or at least, I wasn't.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 19 August 2005 07:35 (twenty years ago)
― misshajim (strand), Friday, 19 August 2005 07:58 (twenty years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Friday, 19 August 2005 10:03 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Friday, 19 August 2005 10:16 (twenty years ago)
So... I'm now reading The Shadow of the Wind by Carlos Ruiz Zafon. I'll come back to Carver when I feel like being reminded of how horrible humans can be. (This is not a knock on his prose; I really enjoyed his writing, but I just couldn't handle the themes.)
― zan, Friday, 19 August 2005 13:08 (twenty years ago)
'now we're cooking with gas!'
i have been reading:
collins, 'interaction ritual chains', esp. the chapter on smoking rituals
berlin alexanderplatz, still: franz biberkopf has just re-joined pums' gang
a bit of 'molloy' for pure pleasure, the part where moran is preparing to depart with his idiot son
bits of berryman's dream songs
― Josh (Josh), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:37 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 19 August 2005 17:56 (twenty years ago)
― zan, Friday, 19 August 2005 18:11 (twenty years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 20 August 2005 00:29 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 20 August 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)
― the pinefox, Saturday, 20 August 2005 12:19 (twenty years ago)
― zan, Saturday, 20 August 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 20 August 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)
Time's Arrow is the only Amis book I've read, either M or K. I did quite like it, although I was an impressionably teenager at the time.
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Saturday, 20 August 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)
Kafka's "The Trial" (for about the third time)
I am now working on these concurrently:
"The Monk" -- Lewis"The Plague" -- Camus"Brighton Rock" -- Graham Greene"Selected Poems" -- Langston Hughes
― mj (robert blake), Sunday, 21 August 2005 22:08 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 21 August 2005 22:53 (twenty years ago)
randall collins, 'sociological insight'lawrence stone, 'the family, sex, and marriage in england 1500-1800'a bit more of 'molloy', where moran has become lame and delivers instructions to his idiot son to walk to hole and buy a bicycle, second-hand preference
― Josh (Josh), Monday, 22 August 2005 03:31 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 22 August 2005 07:46 (twenty years ago)
PJM, did you see the revived Morley thread (Remember the Name!) about that feature? I thought some of the underrated treasures were not that underrated.
― the bellefox, Monday, 22 August 2005 08:24 (twenty years ago)
― the bellefox, Monday, 22 August 2005 08:25 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 22 August 2005 09:32 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Monday, 22 August 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 22 August 2005 13:27 (twenty years ago)
*or dog-ear the pages, not that anyone here would do anything like that
― Ray (Ray), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 22 August 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 22 August 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Monday, 22 August 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 22 August 2005 21:15 (twenty years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 03:35 (twenty years ago)
I can't be arsed with Master and Commander, although it is very good. Nautical but nice, would be my review headline.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 07:30 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 07:43 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:52 (twenty years ago)
We just had that on loan from our local music library, tom. try the library!
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)
So I need to pick out about five books from the stack inside to take with me. Hooray! This is the kind of choice I love being faced with.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)
Currently reading Don Quixote, because of the recent discussion on the 50 books thread. It's funny - okay, the book is funny, but also the _situation_ is funny, because I bounced off this a few years ago, after only reading one or two chapters, and now I can't figure out why, because it's funny. Even in the super-cheap Wrodswor!h edition.
― Ray (Ray), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:50 (twenty years ago)
Um, I, er, um, hang on...
Okay, I've weeded out The Pirate Wars and Under the Black Flag, which I was going to take. Instead I am taking
Philippa Gregory's The Wise Woman. Two things must ye know of the wise woman. No, wait, it's about passion and betrayal in Tudor England.James Morrow's This is the Way the World Ends. According to the NY Times Book Review "if Kurt Vonnegut had collaborated with Jonathan Schell on an antinuclear novel, this might be the result", which strikes me as a little like an introduction to a bad impersonation (if Robert De Niro was doing the washing up, how might that sound?), but we'll give it a go.Joe Bennett's A Land of Two Halves, which is a travel/humour book about New Zealand, which someone gave me as a present (the book, not New Zealand (do you see what I did? DO YOU?)). I'm not sure about travel/humour books. Let's face it, it has to be really fucking funny to be funnier than my mates. We shall see.Daphne du Maurier's Hungry Hill, because Mikey G was singing her praises last year. What ever happened to Mikey anyway?Colm Toibin's The Master, blah blah, Booker shortlist, blah. I've never read one of his books.
And that's it! Not one sailing ship to be seen, but I reserve the right to purchase books with pictures of sailing ships on them while I am away. Ray, let us know how Don Quixote goes for you. I really should read it too.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:24 (twenty years ago)
I'm near finishing Cloud Atlas, then starting Rip It Up... Have just put in an Amazon order for next month's holiday reading, consisting of Paul Morley's Nothing, Charles Portis' The Dog Of The South and Carlo Levi's Christ Stopped At Eboli.
― mog, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:28 (twenty years ago)
I might bring along South of the Border, West of the Sun if only so that I might, in the seclusion of a French villa, convince my husband to finally read some Murakami (he's taking some Tony Parsons and Houellebecq). I have an ARC of Rushdie's new book that I might bring along, but I've never managed to like a Rushdie book, so that could just be dead weight in the suitcase.
Otherwise, I'll be shopping in the Birkenhead Waterstone's on our pit stop before we head to France. Any recommendations for books that just came out in the UK? Or is everything there just more of what I'd find here (NYC)?
― zan, Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)
― jedidiah (jedidiah), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)
wait, do you read books you give as gifts?!
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 18:56 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 07:09 (twenty years ago)
I was being disingenuous anyway because I've read gift books before
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Friday, 26 August 2005 04:34 (twenty years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 26 August 2005 05:28 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 26 August 2005 05:55 (twenty years ago)
I finally finished reading "No More Than Human" which is by no means great - in fact I found it something of a slog - but contains some glorious passages of sly observation, so I'm glad I read it.
Now I'm reading "Make Believe" by Joanna Scott.
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 26 August 2005 07:44 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 26 August 2005 08:49 (twenty years ago)
Snow has started quite brilliantly.
― frankiemachine, Friday, 26 August 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)
The signature thing - will its value increase?
I'm kind of off "things" so I probably wouldn't get it anyway.
In fact I hate "things".
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 26 August 2005 09:30 (twenty years ago)
Things are so pretty, sometimes.
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 26 August 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)
I will be choosing a new book to read next week. I am informed I should cure my misogyny by reading more - or any - novels by women.
― Ally C (Ally C), Friday, 26 August 2005 10:21 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 26 August 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)
― jedidiah (jedidiah), Friday, 26 August 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)
Currently reading: Don DeLillo - White Noise
Will probably read next: Daniel Defoe - A Journal Of The Plague Year
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Friday, 26 August 2005 14:44 (twenty years ago)
Things by George Perec? I couldn't read it either.
― k/l (Ken L), Friday, 26 August 2005 15:31 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 26 August 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Saturday, 27 August 2005 00:40 (twenty years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Saturday, 27 August 2005 03:43 (twenty years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 27 August 2005 03:49 (twenty years ago)
― Navek Rednam (Navek Rednam), Saturday, 27 August 2005 07:46 (twenty years ago)
In looking for a dictionary I was sure we had somewhere (our bookshelves are completely disorganized), I found a copy of Riddley Walker, which I haven't read in years but was reminded of here. So perhaps that's next.
I finished Patricia Rain's Vanilla, which was interesting but seemed to have quite an agenda behind it. Then, I saw on the back flap that she is the CEO of vanilla.COMpany, which explained a lot. She is the self-styled Vanilla Queen; the Vanilla King lives in my town, and I'm wondering if his wife knows.
― Jaq (Jaq), Saturday, 27 August 2005 22:50 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 07:52 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 12:31 (twenty years ago)
I'm far away in Canada!
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 21:02 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 30 August 2005 22:28 (twenty years ago)
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)
I've also got some H.G. Wells and other assorted sci-fi that I'll probably read soon.
― mj (robert blake), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 03:45 (twenty years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 06:03 (twenty years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)
Mind you, his old book reviews are still fantastic.
― the bellefox, Wednesday, 31 August 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)
― Navek Rednam (Navek Rednam), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 17:54 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 21:54 (twenty years ago)
Still reading (and enjoying) Rip It Up And Start Again. I am on New Pop now.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 1 September 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)
Meeting Evil Thomas BergerThe Poet Michael ConnellyThe Lincoln Lawyer Michael ConnellyThe Black Echo Michael ConnellyDrama City George Pelecanos
Under The Banner of Heaven Jon Krakauer: not exactly "fun" but riveting study of Mormonism and its extremist offshoots
still working on Dream Boogie Peter Guralnick's upcoming Sam Cooke biography. It's as good a music bio as I've ever read.
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Thursday, 1 September 2005 15:20 (twenty years ago)
I've been enjoying dipping into The Collected Poems of Kenneth Rexroth quite a bit. Very worthwhile.
I took a beat-up old copy of a Penguin edition of Livy called Early History of Rome, on an overnight hike and read about 150 pages, while sitting in various beauty spots high on Mt. Hood. Cinncinnatus at the plow, Horatio at the bridge, the Rape of Lucretia -- chauvinist mythology at its finest.
― Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 1 September 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)
I stayed up til 3am finishing Pigeon Post - oh no! fallen-in mine workings! oh no! - and am now inspired to revisit all the Ransome I can.
In the meantime I still haven't felt like reading grown-up books so I read Jennings Goes to School (wizard) and Confessions of A Teenage Drama Queen (ozard).
― Archel (Archel), Monday, 5 September 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)
Then I read "Fup" by Jim Dodge, which I also totally adored. Now I'm realding "Light" by Craig Taylor. I picked it up because my football team used to have a player by that name (Craig Taylor, not "Light"). I'm enjoying it, but it feels a bit like comfort literature.
― Tim (Tim), Monday, 5 September 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Monday, 5 September 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)
i am reading 'riddley walker' and 'underworld' and this place is to blame.
― tom west (thomp), Monday, 5 September 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)
Crikey Archel I didn't even notice the one-word-title thing as I was typing that post, but I'll try to carry on for the rest of the month. Which means "The Knight On The Bridge" by William Watson will go back on the pile, and also means I may have to buy another couple of Henry Green novels, what a shame...
― Tim (Tim), Monday, 5 September 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)
For Jebus sake!!!
― SRH (Skrik), Monday, 5 September 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)
― Ray., Monday, 5 September 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)
I started Fishmarket Close by Inspector Rebus, but it was unpleasant, all rape and murder.
I put it aside and started (again) bumshoving epic In The Line Of Beauty. Compared to Inspector Rebus, it is wonderful indeed.
I suppose I would have liked Nothing if my mind had not been in such a turmoil. I have a 3-in-1 Henry Green, Loving, Living, Party Going, which you can have Tim, if you want it. My mind is in turmoil, I cannot read anything that requires effort or an attention span.
Today I have been poorly.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 5 September 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 5 September 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 06:35 (twenty years ago)
PJM: you're a Prince, but I have two of those already and so I think I will be a collector boy and hold out for the matching Harvill edition of "Party Going". Also I certainly won't be able to read it until two-word October, or Archel will be angry.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 08:05 (twenty years ago)
I am reading a book!
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 09:41 (twenty years ago)
Sorry you are poorly, PJM.
I am reading 'How to Dunk a Doughnut' by Len Fisher. Food science!
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:14 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 11:24 (twenty years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)
I read it ages and ages ago, but I seem to recall Dictionary of the Khazars as being dull and skimmable. A few good bits and a nice overall conceit but... meh.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)
Currently reading This is the Way the World Ends. It's very good so far.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)
I think thats the order I'll read them in
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 22:06 (twenty years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 22:49 (twenty years ago)
― Øystein (Øystein), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 23:00 (twenty years ago)
i read the foreword and the preface, but not yet the introduction, the hofstadter i just bought.
straws!
― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 01:08 (twenty years ago)
prepare to be frustrated
there's so much good in that game
it's a shame the map-collecting / boating ruined it
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 06:40 (twenty years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)
― chap who would dare to thwart the revolution (chap), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)
― jedidiah (jedidiah), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 13:09 (twenty years ago)
― jedidiah (jedidiah), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 13:30 (twenty years ago)
Wind Waker is no Ocarina of Time. Endless, endless sailing. But it's more puzzle oriented and less "kill! kill!" than previous Zeldas -- I'm actually zipping along quickly and have only died, like, three times, which is odd for me.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)
― jedidiah (jedidiah), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 14:49 (twenty years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)
― Docpacey (docpacey), Wednesday, 7 September 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)
― jedidiah (jedidiah), Thursday, 8 September 2005 01:06 (twenty years ago)
Metamagical Themas is awesome by the way! Totally difft then GEB, but better for it -- less ambitious, more playful awkward and often totally WTF -- the way he just goes nuts in the end of the Rubics Cube essay is dear to my heart.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 8 September 2005 17:08 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 8 September 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)
reading some cavell, still poking at that (richard) hofstadter, started on the epistemology textbook and verified my claim made on the book purchase thread of its awfulness, some fragments on some presocratics also (i had forgotten that all we have of thales is indirect quotation at best, usually worse!).
― Josh (Josh), Friday, 9 September 2005 03:20 (twenty years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 9 September 2005 05:12 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 9 September 2005 05:50 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 9 September 2005 06:39 (twenty years ago)
also some gadamer in 'the beginning of philosophy', some more hofstadter (illuminating), some 'pythagoras' and 'heraclitus'.
― Josh (Josh), Saturday, 10 September 2005 04:09 (twenty years ago)
um.
― tom west (thomp), Monday, 12 September 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Monday, 12 September 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Monday, 12 September 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)
stuff on the presocratics.
bad survey papers on 'the analysis of knowledge' which raise my ire.
― Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 02:52 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 12:54 (twenty years ago)
I'm now on to Clare Dudman's 98 Reasons for Being (every time I look at that title, I get Jay Z's '99 Problems' stuck in my head).
― zan, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)
currently returning to reading!now:jonathan lethem - fortress of solitudenext:lethem - gun, with occasional musiclethem - motherless brooklynrushdie - midnight's children
― petesmith (plsmith), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 19:50 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 20:07 (twenty years ago)
― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 20:16 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)
― Navek Rednam (Navek Rednam), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 09:48 (twenty years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)
― jeffrey (johnson), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 12:41 (twenty years ago)
It's good, but last night i started wondering how much is true, and how much made up. The section from his great-uncle's diary seem to be very similar to Sebald's own style of writing.
Tim H., did you ever make it to Cork?
― Joe Kay (feethurt), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)
La possibilité d'une île is Houellebecq's latest.
― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 16:03 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 16:13 (twenty years ago)
That certainly is the case during their time as undergraduates; but I don't think anything much is known about Newton's real-life roommate after he graduated.
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 19:01 (twenty years ago)
Things I have learned: I shouldn't commit suicide, Pagan religions don't deliver the goods when needed, God continually tests both the good and the wicked, and I'm free from impurity if my mind is correctly steeled against the, uh, violations of other people committed against me.
Oh, and, damn those horrible, lustful, power-obsessed Romans.
― mj (robert blake), Thursday, 15 September 2005 03:14 (twenty years ago)
― youn, Thursday, 15 September 2005 04:28 (twenty years ago)
(also as Jack The Coiner jack shaftoe is replacing an actual historical individual or so it seems. this seems like cheating.)
― tom west (thomp), Thursday, 15 September 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 15 September 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Thursday, 15 September 2005 19:19 (twenty years ago)
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Thursday, 15 September 2005 22:17 (twenty years ago)
So I finished "Soul" and it's great although it turns out Platonov wrote tons of endings and I think I'd have preferred the one of gut-wrenching emptiness rather than affirmation of humanity, which the editors of this edition chose. That might just be my funny mood.
Then I had a bash at "Living" by Henry Green and I had to abandon it. I wasn't looking forward to picking it up at all, and it was blighting one-word-title September. I don't like abandoning books, I'll have another go at some point. But who knows when I'll be reading one word title novels again? March, maybe.
So now I'm on to "Cassada" by James Salter which isn't especially great either (it's all about aeroplanes and homosociality) but at least it's chugging away nicely. Then I think a re-read of the classic "Rituals" by Cees Nooteboom in preparation for a trip to the Netherlands.
Then one or maybe two short one word title novels before I begin two-word October. Which?
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 16 September 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:39 (twenty years ago)
I think 1984 is more properly called Nineteen Eighty Four (although I might be wrong). You are trying to trick me!
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 16 September 2005 09:59 (twenty years ago)
Have you read Middlesex?
― Archel (Archel), Friday, 16 September 2005 10:55 (twenty years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 16 September 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)
― mj (robert blake), Saturday, 17 September 2005 05:43 (twenty years ago)
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Monday, 19 September 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)
Short, chilling, sad but not mawkish.
― Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 19 September 2005 22:29 (twenty years ago)
― Navek Rednam (Navek Rednam), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 10:09 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)
I'm quickly realizing that he's extremely genius and I want to read everything he's ever written. I'm also realizing what an influence he is on Zadie Smith's style. It's no surprise she picked this book's plot to mimic; the tone is hers already.
― zan, Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)
I can't concentrate on reading anything at the moment. Skimming through an annoyingly illustrated but useful book on running focus groups.
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 05:37 (twenty years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 11:23 (twenty years ago)
The last fiction book I read was A Deepness in the Sky by Verner Vinge. He may be, along with Kim Stanley Robinson, my favorite SciFi author ever. I love how this book spans thousands of years but the restraint used in telling the story makes it seem like he's not trying to cram a lot of information into it's 700 and some pages. This is the first book that made me cry in a long time too.
Now that my classes have started again, I'm mostly reading academic related texts, but they have been amazinly interesting. Women's Way of Knowing, I wish someone had handed me this book when I was 13 years old. While focusing on women, there is so much to learn about how people develop cognition. Same thing with A Different Voice. Also breezed through Blink by Malcom Gladwell. Fascinating albeit light anecdotal reading.
Next up is The Mathematics of Marriage by John Gottman.
― Jeff-PTTL (Jeff), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)
La possibilité d'une île is typical, cynical Houellebecq 'rubbish'. He varies from pissing me off to bringing me down but I think that's what he's trying to do and he's certainly an observant, inventive writer.
― M. White (Miguelito), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 14:51 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)
It seems to me that a lot of enlgish-language poetry is crap, but, being amerikkkan, I am mono-lingual. I refuse to read translations of poetry, but I yearn for rilke, baudelaire, celan, etc. I must brush up on my french.
― stewart downes (sdownes), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)
My daughter is doing her master's in translation theory at the moment, so we have talked extensively about poetry in translation. I read spanish (technically, and with the help of dictionaries), but reading poetry in spanish loses too much - the colloquialisms, any playfulness of language, gone due to my all too technical interpretation. The best method for me is to have the original text in the native language, along with an english translation. I do a literal technical translation of the original, then suss out the translation. I know I'm missing much of the beauty and perhaps most of the truth of the poem, but in the effort I feel the shadow of both.
― Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Thursday, 22 September 2005 00:19 (twenty years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 22 September 2005 07:59 (twenty years ago)
I have been reading the winning poems in our poetry competition, which are very good (hooray!), I finished reading the horrible book I had to read for a review (it went on, and on, and on) and now I'm reading source material about controlled trials in modern medicine for a writing contract I'm trying to get. Which, of course, is why I'm monkeying around here instead of working.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 22 September 2005 12:40 (twenty years ago)
Today I decided that I had to read "Piano" by Jean Echenoz (another Harvill fave) before One Word Title September was over, so I was off to shell £12 on it but thought I'd check the Oxfam bookshop on Strutton Ground first. BINGO! Also "Lang" by Kjall Westo (that o should have umlauts, if they call umlauts umlauts in Swedish-speaking Finland). Between these I should make it safely to the end of the month. I also bought the Oxford edition of "Evelina" by Burney which has a cute Edward Bawden linocut on the front, but I don't suppose I'll have time to get onto it before Two Word Title October dawns. Maybe it'll be in January when a period of austerity could follow the abandon of No Limit December?
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 22 September 2005 13:47 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:20 (twenty years ago)
Perec's the only one I really knew on my own, and none ever comes in. Gah bah.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)
They also did "LAUM", "Three", ""53 Days"", "Things" / "A Man Asleep" and "A Void", plus that big fat biography of The Great Man by David Bellos. Think that's it.
I never managed to lay my hands on the Harvile ""53 Days"" meaning I have some inconsistent copy. That's rankle-icious.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 22 September 2005 14:41 (twenty years ago)
Also finished Pass the Butterworms by Tom Cahill, a moderately amusing and informative collection of short magazine pieces.
Currently reading Selected Non-Fictions of Jorge Luis Borges. It covers quite a wide range of ground, but the highly intellectual stuff is the most intriguing so far.
― Aimless (Aimless), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 22 September 2005 15:17 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 22 September 2005 23:21 (twenty years ago)
The Big Sleep and The Long Goodbye
― mj (robert blake), Friday, 23 September 2005 03:45 (twenty years ago)
I don't know the name of the translator of your edition of LAUM, obv., but I think the Harvill one is David Bellos.
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 23 September 2005 08:15 (twenty years ago)
I am reading Molesworth for the first time and suddenly I understand what everyone is on about on ilx.
― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:01 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)
DB's biogrraphy of Perec is very fine but perhaps too fat. I read it once and would like to read it again but it can only be a reference work now, life being too short and that.
May I stress that "Rituals" by Cees Nooteboom is, on my current reading, rocketing upwards through the ranks of the greatest novels I've ever read. That can't just be because it's largely set in Amserdam and I'm so excited about going there the week after next. Can it?
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 23 September 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 23 September 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)
I'm sorry
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 24 September 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)
: )
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 24 September 2005 14:23 (twenty years ago)
i think this applies to all biographies.
― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 24 September 2005 15:08 (twenty years ago)
Then I read "Piano" by Jean Echenoz and although it's maybe not quite as fab as "I'm Off" it's still pretty great. It's sort of like that Will Self story "The Crouch End Book of the Dead" would have been if Self was something other than an insufferable and self-congratulatory idiot, and if it was set in Paris.
Then I read "Cheese" by Willem Elsschot, which is a brief story of a fellow who embarks on a doomed venture to sell lots of cheese, or not. It's not as funny as it could have been, but was still quite cute in its way.
Next up will be "Annam" by Christophe Bataille (anyone know if he's any relation?) which is vey short indeed. hurrah.
― Tim (Tim), Monday, 26 September 2005 11:19 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:26 (twenty years ago)
I'm reading The Rotter's Club. It's ok. Also it makes me feel relatively young bwahaha.
― Archel (Archel), Monday, 26 September 2005 12:47 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 September 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 05:22 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)
Now I am reading "Lang" by Kjell Westo. It starts off well enough in its shadowy, troubled Scandinavian thriller kind of way.
(Julio expect an email tonight or tomorrow, sorry!)
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 08:52 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 27 September 2005 09:00 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)
Orhan Pamuk's Snow. Not sure I'd read another by him. My impression is that he can write (beneath a somewhat clunky translation - maybe good translation from the Turkish is not easy). But he takes himself seriously & forgets to entertain (or at least he didn't entertain me). Very illuminating about Turkey/religious extremism etc but not an enjoyable enough experience for me to want more. I'd recommend it to people who read novels to find out more about the world, rather than for the kinds of superficial reasons I read them.
Mieville's Iron Council. I'm about 2/3 of the way through this and may or may not finish it. I'm in awe of his imagination but I find his pumped up prose style very hit-and-miss and his retro politics uninteresting. There is some stunning prose writing but also long passages that were an effort to get through and with hindsight not worth the bother. There's something very raw and unfinished about everything he does, probably exactly his appeal for some people but I could have used more polishing and pruning.
Yate's Young Hearts Crying. This is the fourth Yates novel I've read and although I enjoyed it the formula is starting to wear thin. Too many doomed, self-deluding, arty sorts who drink too much and can't get their marriages to work. Probably my last Yates, although I still want to read the autobiography.
Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell. About 150 pages in and the jury still out. Not the immediate delight I'd hoped for: the cod 19 century prose occasionally achieves some nice effects, but generally Susanna Clarke's irony is clunky compared to her models and she doesn't have an especially good ear. Plot development is slow. I'm still reading, though, and optimistic things will pick up now that Jonathan Strange is on the scene. I hope so because I'm not on a winning streak and would love to read a novel I can enjoy with less reservations than the ones mentioned above.
― frankiemachine, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 10:59 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)
― Docpacey (docpacey), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)
― Docpacey (docpacey), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)
Fun things are not inherently compelling to adults.Any child might find fun things inherently compelling.If a thing is interesting, it is compelling.Therefore if you are not a child, you do not necessarily find all fun things to be interesting things.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)
― Docpacey (docpacey), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)
You said "interesting (i.e. compelling)" -- it is interesting, that is to say compelling. Now that I reread it, though, I think it is possible that you could either mean "all interesting things are compelling" or "all compelling things are interesting" by that. Although I think the first reading -- "The critter is a dog (i.e., a mammal)" -- is more likely than the second -- "The crittier is a mammal (i.e., a dog)" -- since when there are only two terms, it seems that the rephrasing has to be to something more general. (If there are more terms before the "i.e." then I think it probably means the term after the "i.e." is the specific term -- "The critter is furry and gets help for Timmy (i.e., it is Lassie)" -- but without more context, you couldn't say "The critter is furry (i.e., it is Lassie)".)
But this new addition is a nice one:
All interesting things are fun.Not all interesting things are compelling.
Because then that forces us to accpet the less likely reading of "All compelling things are interesting."
So:
Fun things are not inherently compelling to adults.More specifically, there exists a fun thing that is not compelling, at least for an adult.Interesting thigns are not inherently compelling.More specifically, there exists an interesting thing that is not compelling.All interesting things are fun.All compelling things are interesting.Therefore all compelling things are fun!Therefore there are a greater number of fun things than interesting things, and a greater number of interesting things than compelling things, at least as far as adults are concerned!
This is a useful deduction, I think.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 23:51 (twenty years ago)
― salexander (salexander), Thursday, 29 September 2005 04:59 (twenty years ago)
Currently reading The Face of Spain by Gerald Brenan. A travel through the south of the country in the early Franco years. Poverty and the black market on every page.
Highlights of my reading year are: One Hundred Years of Solitude, The Time Travellers Wife, Down and Out in Paris and London, In Search of Languages by Mark Abley, Accursed Mountains by Philip Carver (travels in Albania), re-reading Laurie Lee & Ruy Castro's biography of Garrincha. These are the books that scored 8/10 or more on my extremly sad spreadsheet of books read.
Disappointment of the year is Murakami's Wind Up Bird Chronicles. I've saved it for ages and it just felt bloated and wilfully obtuse. The one plus is Rossini's overture to The Thieving Magpie, hummed by a waiter in the book and a great tune I'd forgotten all about.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 September 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)
frankiemachine: Aren't Coe's sex scenes atrocious? I agree with your impressions; I expected more, but I still really enjoyed the book. And give Jonathan Strange a chance. For months after I read it I still didn't know if I liked it or not (at points I even hated it), but now, a year later, I remember it very fondly, and certain scenes from it have stuck with me better than many books I loved immediately.
Mikey G: Read A Wild Sheep Chase. I think it's the perfect Murakami book: bizarre, sad, and much tighter than Wind-Up Bird. Although, if you didn't find merit in it, you might just be one of those people who doesn't like Murakami.
― zan, Thursday, 29 September 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:33 (twenty years ago)
And if we're talking highlights and lowlights, Kafka on the Shore was a surprising highlight for me this year. I thought I wouldn't like it, but ended up loving it.
― zan, Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:15 (twenty years ago)
The other book I'm reading (The Vampyre) is even more rub. I think I'll just move on to that book by Simon Winchester about the OED - anyone read it?
― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)
― M. White (Miguelito), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:14 (twenty years ago)
I started reading Saturday by Ian McEwan, but 50 pages in I really don't like it. It could be the head cold, but I'm inclined to think it's the book. I've temporarily put it to one side in favour of Giles Minton's Nathaniel's Nutmeg. Seafaring! The Dutch being bastards! Scurvy! It's got all the things I love in a book.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)
Isn't the Winchester book called The Surgeon of Crowthorne?
― Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 29 September 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)
I have started The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists. I think it is dish as dullwater, and the newspapers are called The Obscurer and The Daily Chloroform.
I also started The Blind Assassin, but it looked like it might involve thinking, so I put it aside.
Should I read Hangover Square, do you think? Or perhaps I should get this Mr Strange Norrel book from Fopp, where it is on special offer.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 30 September 2005 06:35 (twenty years ago)
Frankiemachine on Coe was quite convincing. I thought the novel had some melancholy that was its strongest suit.
I seem not to be reading books anymore! I read the Guardian. It contains multitudes. And I read most of the Independent's DYLAN: A SPECIAL CELEBRATION. But I did just last night start Henry Green's Loving, in these last burnished days of one-word September.
― the pomefox, Friday, 30 September 2005 11:51 (twenty years ago)
Thrillers which start with the end, though, never quite live up to their name, do they?
I don't read many thrillers. Can you tell? To tell you the truth, I don't even know if Lang counts as one.
Anyway, TWO WORD OCTOBER beckons. I won't be reading much next week because I'll be on a holiday effectively made up of a series of city breaks, and I'll be wanting to gaze, fascinated, from train windows. Suggestions for unmissable two-worders much appreciated. Currently lined up: "Blockade Diary" by Lidiya Ginzburg; "The Towpath" by Jesus Moncada; "Double Jeopardy" by Jean Echenoz and "Second Harvest" by Jean Giono.
I was going to include that GB84 but mark s told me it was four words. Shame.
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)
The Guardian is indeed PACKED, although not as much today as yesterday, mainly because the Films and Music section is missing from my copy.
Tim, I don't know if "The" can be considered a word for these purposes. I notice that you favour the work of Johnny Foreigner.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 30 September 2005 12:39 (twenty years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 30 September 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)
― the pinefox, Friday, 30 September 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)
I've put off reading this for a while (pricetag says 2001), as I don't like too many of the authors that are associated with Burroughs, and only found Junky/Junkie to be moderately interesting; but this is a whole 'nother level!
I want to move to NYC now, as I've just had the joy of dragging a suitcase chockful o' cheap hardcovers home with me. "12th Street Books" = first prize!
― Øystein (Øystein), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:46 (twenty years ago)
Anyway, it quotes a Pierre Trudeau essay about canoeing, with the great line: "Travel a thousand miles by train and you are a brute; pedal five hundred on a bicycle and you remain basically a bourgeois; paddle a hundred in a canoe and you are already a child of nature."
While I finally got my bicycle today and am currently content to be a bourgeois, I did think this was a terrific line, and I googled up the entire essay, which is short, well written, and worth reading.
I found a selected essays on Amazon -- was Trudeau known as a good essayist, in general?
It reminded me of when I was reading Thomas Jefferson's book about Virginia, and I was saddened thinking about how we'd never elect anyone who could write such a book these days (I suspect neither Trudeau nor Jefferson used ghostwriters). But I'm glad Canada could, not too long ago.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 3 October 2005 05:44 (twenty years ago)
OK, Tim! No need to totally blow your cool like that.
Is it about canals? Or is it a metaphorical journey along the towpath of life?
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 3 October 2005 06:36 (twenty years ago)
Definitely give it a try. It's lovely. However, if you haven't already or never intend on reading Assassin, read "Cat's Eye" or "Alias Grace" instead. I enjoyed them more, & plus they're both shorter.
― salexander (salexander), Monday, 3 October 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)
Other books I tried and failed to read:
Danny Wallace - The Yes Man.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 3 October 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)
― the bellefox, Monday, 3 October 2005 10:22 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 3 October 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)
― zan, Monday, 3 October 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 3 October 2005 13:13 (twenty years ago)
YES!
― Archel (Archel), Monday, 3 October 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Monday, 3 October 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 3 October 2005 13:33 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 3 October 2005 13:39 (twenty years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Monday, 3 October 2005 13:40 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 3 October 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)
Apparently someone suggested Winchester write it after they read The Surgeon of thingy, on the grounds that having written a footnote to the history of the OED he should now go and write the history itself.
― Archel (Archel), Monday, 3 October 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Monday, 3 October 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)
― SRH (Skrik), Monday, 3 October 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Monday, 3 October 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)
Dense, intense, dificult. Two-word title.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 10:19 (twenty years ago)
God, I love Green.
I finally finished the exceptionally depressing La possibilité d'une île and am currently happy to be reading pop-history in the form of A History of the World in Six Glasses by Tom Standage.
― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 12:52 (twenty years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)
― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 13:11 (twenty years ago)
― k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 14:22 (twenty years ago)
Just re-read Journey to the Alcarria by Camilo Jose Cela. I read it every year and it gets better each time. Sparse and read-between-the-linesy, the humour is drole and it conjours up a I-wanna-go-there-right-now feeling of place. Maybe because the place doesn't recognisably exist anymore.
If anyone else has read it, I would love to talk about it with you and I may even touch you inappropriately.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 15:05 (twenty years ago)
I have not read it, Mikey, but I will do one day, just for you.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 07:04 (twenty years ago)
then I received an e-mail the next day
"out of stock"
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― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)
Some nice textual imagery of post-war America.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 12:01 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 12:06 (twenty years ago)
On another note, in my search for this book I finally made it over to Gotham Book Mart, which is just lovely. They have a great Greta Garbo exhibit up at the moment, and the staff is amazingly friendly and helpful. (I'd already been to Labyrinth, The Strand, and Three Lives looking for a copy - all out. Go Dalkey.)
― zan, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 13:49 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)
Incidentally, my favorite store during my brief visit was "12th Street Books", which was right around the corner from the Strand.
How is 3rd Policeman, by the way? Anywhere near as funny as At Swim-Two-Birds? The Lost thing is kinda neat, as I saw over on the Complete Review's blog that "Since this information was reported in a Chicago Tribune article a week ago, [Dalkey Archive Press have] sold about five years worth of copies of The Third Policeman"
Oh, now reading: "Lord Foul's Bane" by Stephen Donaldson. I hated the "Gap" book I read, and generally don't like fantasy, but this is starting out surprisingly well. Particularly considering how reviled the novel is over on rec.arts.sf.written, whose volkgeist matches mine relatively well on SF novels.
― The Moon (Øystein), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 13:59 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)
Now I will devote my attention more thoroughly to ItLoB.
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)
They seem to have two floors, though I never made it to the second one as I was in a hurry. The front of the shop is dedicated to Edward Gorey stuff; a few shelves' worth. They had a lovely back room where older white men seemed to be discussing something important and literary. I wanted to go back there, but it looked forbidden.
I'll go again, and report next time on the mysterious second floor, and whether or not I discover more Gorey there.
The Third Policeman is great so far, funny enough to make me snigger out loud (something I never do), though I have no other Flann O'Brien to compare it to. I'll definitely be reading more.
― zan, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)
― zan, Wednesday, 5 October 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)
All right, Nick, if you're basically finished with that, then maybe I will finish reading another weird book with a strange baseball team in it, Harry Mathew's Tlooth.
― k/l (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)
I'm planning on starting MFK Fisher's "A Cordiall Water" today. But I am also thinking of going to the library. Anything I should grab?
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 5 October 2005 19:35 (twenty years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Thursday, 6 October 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 6 October 2005 02:43 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 6 October 2005 04:07 (twenty years ago)
So now I am reading Ask the Dust by John Fante and it is good and I like it.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 6 October 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)
About halfway through Dylan volume 1. It could do with an index. I want to cross reference and it is hard work but not as hard work as that awful blonde woman who murdered Like a Rolling Stone at the tribute concert. I'm gonna hunt her down.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 6 October 2005 08:54 (twenty years ago)
Finished the last half of The Third Policeman in a terrific 2-hour marathon only to find out that the book was shown for a split second on "Lost" and not referred to at all (apart from the obvious references to an underground computer, and the possible futility of pushing buttons, which I knew already). Hopefully it'll still be a big sales boost for Dalkey as the book does bolster a lot of possible theories on the mysteries of the show.
Now reading Lewycka's A Short History of Tractors in Ukrainian.
― zan, Thursday, 6 October 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)
It's true that the interview and the book correlate quite interestingly - maybe one provoked the other to happen. But if you are concerned that the book is a transcript of Dylan talking, rather than properly written by him -- that has never been claimed that I have seen, there is no evidence for it that I am aware of. Actually, if it had been edited by an ordinary writer, it would probably have fewer flat little sentences going nowhere, leaving aside the many extraordinary ones.
― the bellefox, Thursday, 6 October 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)
Meanwhile - Myles and Pynchon - wow! it's all happening here.
― the bellefox, Thursday, 6 October 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)
I much prefer the writing when he switches to Woody Guthrie, when the the perspective shifts, humility surfaces and it reads more like a fan.
My copy has 'book of the year' plastered all over the back cover. On closer analysis, these people include Gryff Rhys Jones, Caitlan Moran and (never forgiven him for that composer in a dream book), Kazuo Ishiguro.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 7 October 2005 06:52 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 7 October 2005 07:12 (twenty years ago)
― the bobfox, Friday, 7 October 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)
The one thing I take from this book is calling people at work, 'Cat'.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 7 October 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)
I have just finished Augusten Burroughs' Running with Scissors, which I found most enjoyable. Now I am going to read The Zombie Survival Guide: Complete Protection from the Living Dead by Max Brooks. I suspect this book will change my life! I live in fear of zombie attacks.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 8 October 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)
This translation gives Pushkin a voice quite reminiscent of Byron in Don Juan in terms of wit and wordplay, but the tone is less manic and the satire gentler and more affectionate. I quite like it.
― Aimless (Aimless), Saturday, 8 October 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)
Now I am reading Jonathan Lethem's Gun, With Occasional Music, which is very good in a Chandler/Dick crossover stylee.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 10 October 2005 06:12 (twenty years ago)
― Fred (Fred), Monday, 10 October 2005 06:34 (twenty years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 10 October 2005 07:04 (twenty years ago)
I bought a Woody Guthrie CD yesterday. Best song title? "See that my skillet is kept good and greasy"
Now Reading Richard Brautigan - An Unfortunate Woman. His last book and full of weariness.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 10 October 2005 07:10 (twenty years ago)
I am reading a relatively dumb book about wine. Herodotus keeps a slow pace; the Persians are so close!
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 10 October 2005 07:17 (twenty years ago)
Now reading one of Philip K. Dick's earliest novels: "The World Jones Made", which is fun pulp SF/fantasy. Definitely not as strange as the material from his last ten years, which is all I've really been familiar with up to now.
― Øystein (Øystein), Monday, 10 October 2005 09:45 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Monday, 10 October 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)
― Øystein (Øystein), Monday, 10 October 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)
Oh, and to whomever recommended Carver's "Cathedral" to me: thanks. I read it two nights ago, and it was inspiring.
― zan, Monday, 10 October 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)
Aimless, let me know how you like this when you've finished. I'd like to read it.
I'm reading 'Bobbed Hair and Bathtub Gin' by Marion Meade, though I'm not sure why, since it's not really a subject I haven't read about a million times before. Well written, though.
― M. White (Miguelito), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)
Last night I started in on Alice Munro for the first time. 'Runaway'. Two stories down, this isn't really doing it for me, either.
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:18 (twenty years ago)
― Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 10 October 2005 14:52 (twenty years ago)
M. White - I will let you know about Onegin. So far so good.
― Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)
Oh man, has there been a TS Johnson vs. James thread on ILM? There should be.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 10 October 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)
Not bad. There were lots of interesting facts about the fair, though at times the specifics of the bureaucratic infighting among the fair's planners got a bit tedious. And the H. H. Holmes serial killer story was fascinating, if a bit sensationalistic. I admire any book which makes an honest attempt to recreate the fabric of daily life in a bygone age - in this case the late 19th century.
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 10 October 2005 18:26 (twenty years ago)
― Hurting (Hurting), Monday, 10 October 2005 19:11 (twenty years ago)
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Monday, 10 October 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)
― stewart downes (sdownes), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 00:47 (twenty years ago)
― Mog, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:37 (twenty years ago)
I'm rereading Life a users manual, and Queneau's Exercises in Style. And agog waiting for a couple of Marry Hathews novels to arrive
― Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 12:20 (twenty years ago)
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 12:33 (twenty years ago)
So now I'm back and making slow progress with "The Towpath". This would not usually be worthy of comment, but I'm enjoying it very much and I'll normally be impatient with the slow.
Matt! Which Mathewses? I have yet to read the correct Mathews book for me, though I'm sure it's out there, though perhaps not Out There.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:30 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 17:51 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:17 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 18:29 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:29 (twenty years ago)
― the finefox, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:32 (twenty years ago)
― the finefox, Tuesday, 11 October 2005 19:33 (twenty years ago)
The Mathewses where, not so much: The Sinking Of The Or[darek?] Stadium, despite its obvious appeal, Selected Declarations Of [whatever it was].
The Mathewses which I really should get around to reading: Singular Pleasures, that story that's written like a cook book recipe that my friend keeps raving about.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 20:53 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 21:08 (twenty years ago)
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 06:32 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 08:33 (twenty years ago)
I am reading Badenheim 1939 by Aharon Appelfeld. It is one of those "am I missing something?" books, in a good way. For some reasonm it makes me think of the Montreaux Jazz Festival, which in turn makes me think of Smoke On The Water.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:21 (twenty years ago)
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 09:42 (twenty years ago)
― misshajim (strand), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)
I love Laytown. These days it's dark when I take the dogs walking in the morning and I only know where the horizon is because I can see the lights of the fishing boats out there. It's very romantic. Also I saw a guy scrape a guy with a knife in the city centre today and they were screaming at each other and there was blood everywhere, and that kind of thing doesn't really happen in Laytown.
To get back to books, I just love The Time Traveller's Wife so far. It's one of those books I want to sneak home early from work to read.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 15:58 (twenty years ago)
Maybe it's just me.
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 18:45 (twenty years ago)
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Thursday, 13 October 2005 02:24 (twenty years ago)
I finished Badenheim 1939. I would like to compare and contrast it with Joe Orton's Butlins thing, but I can't remember what it's called. Any road, it's a good book, although I'm sure Hebrew readers get more from it than us honkies.
I started Beryl Bainbridge's Young Adolf, but I don't think I can be bothered with it at the moment. Perhaps I will go back to Clare Short's thrilling memoir, before getting stuck into The Hearing Trumpet, which I hope is the novelistic equivalent of George Fell Into His French Horn.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 13 October 2005 06:36 (twenty years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Thursday, 13 October 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)
Jerry the Nipper gave it (to) me!
― the pinefox, Friday, 14 October 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)
― youn, Friday, 14 October 2005 22:40 (twenty years ago)
― Fred (Fred), Saturday, 15 October 2005 11:09 (twenty years ago)
― Navek Rednam (Navek Rednam), Saturday, 15 October 2005 11:25 (twenty years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 16 October 2005 01:13 (twenty years ago)
sterl what else of his have you read? i enjoyed and admired 'pallbearers' but found it kind of hard to get comfortable with his style, i mean in the sense of being able to react readily to what i recognized as much funnier/biting/moving writing than my reactions made it out to be. it was almost as if i hadn't found the right way to read individual sentences and also to go from sentence to sentence: not the right speed somehow (yever read adorno's essay on how to read hegel? kinda like that: 'hegel demands to be read slowly, and quickly, at the same time). 'mumbo jumbo' and 'radio' are still on the shelf lying in wait.
― Josh (Josh), Sunday, 16 October 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Sunday, 16 October 2005 03:31 (twenty years ago)
― Fred (Fred), Sunday, 16 October 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)
― Navek Rednam (Navek Rednam), Sunday, 16 October 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)
I see what you mean about the pace thing though. Terrible Twos has this fantastic opening montage and then falls into a v. funny imitation "airplane thriller" mode rapidly. I found myself having to flip back to remind myself who characters were b/c they get an intro scene where everything important about them is sorta casually established, then they just start moving in full speed. I figured the best way was to keep going fast with it, b/c the gags while great are never v. subtle and eventually get full play even if there's "subtle" foreshadowing before. Reed's not really a character novelist so much as a satirist, so I think powering thru his books is the most rewarding way.
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Sunday, 16 October 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)
― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Sunday, 16 October 2005 22:26 (twenty years ago)
I bought one of his poems in a little limited edition pamphlet from Red Snapper on Saturday. It's cuter than a pretty girl in a tight top.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 17 October 2005 07:51 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:06 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:03 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Monday, 17 October 2005 12:48 (twenty years ago)
― zan, Monday, 17 October 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Monday, 17 October 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)
OK. I finally finished it. It took so long because of complications in my life, not because it was too boring or difficult. Actually, it is a fairly swift read for a versified novelette.
With a verse translation it is very hard to know how much of your impression is due to the original and how much to the filter it has been run through. I thought the first half was wittier and more sparkling, the next quarter section was less brilliant, and the final quarter recovered its footing - though not so much in terms of wit or sparkle, but mainly in terms of characterization and added depth.
I'd recommend it. It comes across very well in the Charles Johnston translation.
― Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:59 (twenty years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 17 October 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Monday, 17 October 2005 22:44 (twenty years ago)
― wmlynch (wlynch), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 02:42 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 08:24 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)
That is my interesting fact for the day.
About a quarter of the way through Bob Dylan's Chronicles, I decided I didn't care about his life or Dave Van Ronk's coat and gave up. I liked the bits that serve as a practical manual for artistic endeavour, but you could just put those in a pamphlet and have done.
So now I am reading At Swim-Two-Birds again. Not from the begining though!
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)
― the finefox, Tuesday, 18 October 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 20:35 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:16 (twenty years ago)
― Øystein (Øystein), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 03:49 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 07:28 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:03 (twenty years ago)
Some great writing on Cantona by Jim White and on Tino Asprilla by some bloke. A reread from 1997.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:32 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:29 (twenty years ago)
― Mog, Wednesday, 19 October 2005 10:29 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)
After nearly three weeks of two-word October I've FINALLY finished "The Towpath" by Jesus Moncada. I'm sorry it's swallowed so much of the month but I'm delighted I took my time over it because its a marvellous thing. It reminds me a bit of "Life A Users Manual", and that can hardly be a bad thing, but it's much less structured and formal than LAUM, its stories are told in fragmented memories. Where the order of the House in Rue Simon-Crubellier sits at the centre of LAUM, at the centre of TT there's the river Ebro.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 20 October 2005 08:23 (twenty years ago)
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Thursday, 20 October 2005 09:22 (twenty years ago)
I had Miles Davis' Sketches of Spain blaring from the speakers and the Real Madrid game on mute on the telly. It's goes without saying that a bottle of wine was slowly emptying.
Kurt Vonnegut - Mother Night.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 20 October 2005 09:49 (twenty years ago)
I feel that PJM, the pied piper of ILB, is following me on this one.
I disagree with the people who don't like Nothing, and agree with those who do. I dare say I am repeating myself, again.
Jaq, I feel it is a one-sided match, and thus not, come to think of it, a game of two halves.
I did not get far with Shandy but want to see Rob Brydon's cinematic contribution.
I have finished In Anger! It's extensively informative, a copper mine of raw material.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 20 October 2005 12:51 (twenty years ago)
Rob Brydon is very funny in that film.
What is The Towpath called in foreign, Tim?
Had I not given it away, I would give Nothing another whirl.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 20 October 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)
The book is set in Catalonia and there are a few references to people speaking halting Castillian, so maybe it's Catalan? I imagine that the answer is obvious to you PJM with your language skeez and therefore this paragraph is just so many useless words.
I should warn you that it's one of those big swirling histories of a town through the generations, so if you hate those it's probably best to avoid it. OK?
Oh look here is a linky: http://www.escriptors.com/autors/moncadaj/index.php
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:22 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)
I started to read Bill Bryson's History of Nearly Everything or whatever it's called, last night. I got to the bit about Schiehallion and measuring the mass of the Earth with plumb lines and stuff, and then a programme all about it came on the radio. SPOOKY.
― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)
Swim-Birds is very musical, I think. It does rather remind me of Joyce though. Why this should be bad, I don't know. I see Brian Glover in the role of the uncle.
Foxy, Rob Bonnet has left The Rob Bonnet Show :-(
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:42 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:44 (twenty years ago)
Hrm, maybe that's why I often find books like At Swim easier to read than any number of pulpy "easy reads". I feel like all the words I read actually give me something back, and so get more involved.
I'm currently reading Italo Calvino's "Why read the classics"? So far it's made me want to read Xenophon.
― Øystein (Øystein), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 20 October 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)
― Mog, Friday, 21 October 2005 08:51 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 21 October 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:53 (twenty years ago)
― Jeff LeVine (Jeff LeVine), Friday, 21 October 2005 15:27 (twenty years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Friday, 21 October 2005 16:17 (twenty years ago)
― wmlynch (wlynch), Friday, 21 October 2005 20:21 (twenty years ago)
― Jeff LeVine (Jeff LeVine), Friday, 21 October 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)
Time is a blind rider who no one can unsaddle, you know.
It is very good and very short.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 24 October 2005 06:32 (twenty years ago)
One in three has bought a book just to look intelligent
John EzardMonday October 24, 2005The Guardian
Books are the new snobbery, according to a survey today. Social competitiveness about which titles we read has become one of the new mass forces of the era and only middle-aged people are relatively free of it.Driven partly by pressure from incessant literary prize shortlists, more than one in three consumers in London and the south-east admit having bought a book "solely to look intelligent", the YouGov survey says.
It finds one in every eight young people confessing to choosing a book "simply to be seen with the latest shortlisted title". This herd instinct dwindles to affect only one in 20 over-50 year-olds.
The British Airports Authority and the travel website Expedia, which jointly commissioned the poll of 2,100 people as a prelude to their own travel books prize ceremony on Tuesday, say it suggests snobbery is no longer just a matter of keeping up with the Joneses."The latest literary pressure is keeping up with the rest of your fellow travellers and commuters. Bookshelf contents are fast becoming as studied and planned as outfits as a way to impress others. Books shortlisted for prestigious literary panel awards are becoming 'de rigueur' reading for many."
Yet the results indicate that "reading" is a relative term. When asked about specific titles, only one in 25 people turn out to have read the novel chosen as the best in the Booker prize's 25-year history, Salman Rushdie's Midnight's Children - and half these had failed to finish it.
Only one in 100 had read Andrew Levy's Small Island, picked earlier this month as the best of all Orange prize winners. Not a single reader had yet opened this month's Booker winner, John Banville's The Sea.
Other strongly publicised titles endorsed by literary panels fare only slightly better. One in 20 members of the public has read Zadie Smith's White Teeth and only one in 25 Yann Martel's Life of Pi or Paulo Coelho's The Alchemist.
Some consumers hedge their bets by keeping two titles on the go - one an impressive book to show other people, the other an escapist work to enjoy.
The biggest group, more than two in every five people, follows the traditional method of choosing their reading; relying on recommendations from close family and friends.
The sample's own top 10 titles, a mixture of classic and popular, is: the Bible, Lord of the Rings, one or other of the Harry Potter stories, Catch-22, Animal Farm, The Hobbit, Pride and Prejudice, To Kill a Mockingbird, The Da Vinci Code, Wuthering Heights.
Elyas Choudhury, an Expedia director, said yesterday: "We seem to have lost sight of the fact that reading a book should be a personal, enjoyable and relaxing experience, not one dictated by social pressure."
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:17 (twenty years ago)
― Fred (Fred), Monday, 24 October 2005 08:44 (twenty years ago)
http://www.williamgaddis.org/recognitions/annota.shtml
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 24 October 2005 11:10 (twenty years ago)
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 24 October 2005 12:14 (twenty years ago)
There surely must be a million papers written on Mr. James' sentence structure and use of the comma. It's as if he's translated his own stories from the Russian. It's driving me absolutely bonkers.
― zan, Monday, 24 October 2005 12:56 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 24 October 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)
-- Jeff LeVine (jeffl
Jeff, I'd say go for Civilwarland next, but I think Pastoralia is equally brilliant. I haven't read a dud story by him yet. The last couple stories (in Harper's and New Yorker) have been extremely dark though.
― wmlynch (wlynch), Monday, 24 October 2005 15:52 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 24 October 2005 20:08 (twenty years ago)
― Remy (x Jeremy), Monday, 24 October 2005 21:45 (twenty years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 24 October 2005 22:14 (twenty years ago)
― Jeff LeVine (Jeff LeVine), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 01:04 (twenty years ago)
But. Ulysses. It is amazing. Why did I wait so long? Because I read Edna O'Brien's bio first, decided Joyce as a prick and a half and wanted nothing to do with anything he wrote. But I like Modigliani too and he was a worse one, so I have to be over that particular conceit. Guess I've moved into the Camille Paglia/Picasso-machine-gunning-grandmas phase. The Sirens have just started their overture.
― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 02:33 (twenty years ago)
The Blind Rider was good.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 06:19 (twenty years ago)
― Fred (Fred), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 07:14 (twenty years ago)
First I was on holiday for a week and read NOWT, although I carried "The Towpath" around the Low Countries with me just in case. It even emerged from my bag once. Then it took me another week and a half to get through it, though I loved it (see above). Then I started on "Blockade Diary" by Lidiya Ginzburg which I found irksome (primarily because it seemed to consist mostly of unsupported musings on the Human Condition in extremis, which it has every right to (I suppose) but I have the equal and opposite right to abandon the book, which I did because it started reminding me of Alain de Botton).
Now I've moved on to "Second Harvest" by Jean Giono, which is gorgeous Giono pastoral, not very challenging but all the better for that because I'm challenged enough at the moment.
It doesn't look as though I'll have time to get to the fat volume of "Independent People" by Halldor Laxness, and it's on a lend. Maybe I'll have to abandon the Project.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 09:01 (twenty years ago)
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)
I can't believe it! Where could he go?
I don't read novels like Archel, and can hardly imagine doing so: I think I read them more like she says she reads poetry. Which also means, slowly, no doubt.
I am rereading The Crying of Lot 49. Amazingly, its richness endures and renews itself.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 12:15 (twenty years ago)
Pinefox, I had lost heart that anything by Pynchon would be endurable, after GR. Mr. Jaq (aka moriarty, in here) has been reading V and his reports made it sound more of the same. But I will try The Crying of Lot 49 sometime.
― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:17 (twenty years ago)
― zan, Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)
― wmlynch (wlynch), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:04 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:19 (twenty years ago)
I read too much internet. I looked at this sentence and was trying to figure out what NOWT could possibly stand for.
Sigh.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:44 (twenty years ago)
― wmlynch (wlynch), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)
As, of course, they do.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:43 (twenty years ago)
I started the thread on CL49 not at all to wrangle over GR - that has been done before - but to marvel at the earlier book. Perhaps I will try to sprinkle it with more marvels and marvel, to show why. I still have about 30+pp to go in this rereading.
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 26 October 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Thursday, 27 October 2005 00:49 (twenty years ago)
Now I will start Forty Stories by my fellow Papercuts contributor Donald Barthelme.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 27 October 2005 07:38 (twenty years ago)
I don't think the editor ever paid him a cent.
― the pinefox, Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:37 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 27 October 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)
― c7n (Cozen), Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)
― the pinefox, Thursday, 27 October 2005 12:07 (twenty years ago)
That Casuistry post about Pynchon is cutting, to me, and rings right, but I really dig the Pinefox's reply, too.
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 27 October 2005 16:51 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 28 October 2005 04:11 (twenty years ago)
r.g. collingwood's 'essay on philosophical method'danto's 'nietzsche as philosopher'the opening passages of gravity's rainbow, againa bit of the yates 'art of memory' i just bought
so far danto writes like a motherfucker, even early on in his second book (published the same year as his first book).
― Josh (Josh), Friday, 28 October 2005 04:19 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Friday, 28 October 2005 08:16 (twenty years ago)
I have started Zipper and his Father by Joseph Roth.
I think that, deep down, I like proper stories where things happen. Everything else seems a bit like cheating.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 28 October 2005 08:35 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 28 October 2005 08:38 (twenty years ago)
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 28 October 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)
It's alright.
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 28 October 2005 11:16 (twenty years ago)
I don't think I buy that idea about the names. But 'Stephen / Steven' is always a good one.
I don't know that I understand Josh's last sentence. Americans!
― the pinefox, Friday, 28 October 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)
― the pinefox, Friday, 28 October 2005 13:05 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 28 October 2005 13:41 (twenty years ago)
― Gravel Puzzleworth (Gregory Henry), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:40 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 28 October 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)
― Peter Densmore (pbnmyj), Friday, 28 October 2005 18:33 (twenty years ago)
― Navek Rednam (Navek Rednam), Friday, 28 October 2005 19:07 (twenty years ago)
Now I think I'll do this Borges collection. I've only read a few stories here and there.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Saturday, 29 October 2005 14:50 (twenty years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Monday, 31 October 2005 00:46 (twenty years ago)
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Monday, 31 October 2005 07:32 (twenty years ago)
I am back on Elusive Peace. It is very good, but unfortunatley the bit I was reading this morning coincided with hteh ten minutes or so I saw on television. On the plus side, this ceheers me up that I didn't watch it all.
My reading pile is as follows:
Brick Lane - Monica AliSmell Island - Andrea LevyNotes on a Scandal - Zoe SomethingThe Da Vinci Code - Dan BrownFishmarket Close - Inspector Rebus
So it is going to be middlebrow popular fiction month, I think. They are all books that you see people reading on the train. I need to connect with my fellow commuters.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 31 October 2005 08:53 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:12 (twenty years ago)
(I alway enjoy spotting the photo locations for the covers of Inspector Rebus books. One of them - I think it was a compendium rather than a single novel - had my old local pub on it)
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Monday, 31 October 2005 11:35 (twenty years ago)
Sorry to hear about your illness, Archie. I like repeated radio programmes, it is a hangover from my World Service days, when repeated programmes felt like old friends before the day was out.
I nearly listened to Money Box, but I started watching Austin Powers instead. It was very poor. I should have stuck with Money Box.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 31 October 2005 12:36 (twenty years ago)
― the boxfox, Monday, 31 October 2005 14:11 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 31 October 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)
I will clear up the last thirty pages of the OK but underwhelming "Those Feet" to round off two word October just in time. It has one or two interesting historical bits but it works with too hobbled and cliched a definition of Englishness to be of any real use to me.
I hope I like books with three word titles more.
― Tim (Tim), Monday, 31 October 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)
a load of books on nietzsche from the liberry, thinking about whether to teach 'the gay science' this spring or what to say about it exactly.
also, the newspaper. this is unusual for me.
― Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 02:54 (twenty years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 04:52 (twenty years ago)
I very much like typing, and looking at, the word Sciascia. I'm not sure how to pronounce it correctly.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 10:43 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)
I'm still reading Mathews' The journalist, as well as Kevin Jackson's invisible forms for research purposes and what have you. I will read something actually just for fun soon, I'm sure. Not that these aren't enjoyable, but I have ulterior motives.
― Matt (Matt), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 11:21 (twenty years ago)
I finished it in the cafe of the Cabaret Voltaire in Zurich. Oh yay.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)
sha-sha
― Mädchen (Madchen), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:16 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:46 (twenty years ago)
Starting Ishmael Reed's "Mumbo Jumbo" now. Let's be done with wiggle and wobble!
― Øystein (Øystein), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 14:58 (twenty years ago)
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 16:26 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 1 November 2005 18:51 (twenty years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 00:56 (twenty years ago)
i read some more phaedo and more newspaper and started on a book about 'the gay science' called 'comic relief'.
― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 03:02 (twenty years ago)
I'm thinking of reading Phaedrus. But we'll see. I think I will disagree with it greatly, if I do read it.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 03:36 (twenty years ago)
― misshajim (strand), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 08:45 (twenty years ago)
I have finished Elusive Peace. Inevitably, it is a bit of an anti-climax. Nevertheless, Book Of The Year so far.
I have had a bad back that was so bad it made lavatorial processes more difficult than usual, if that's what you mean, Maddie.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 08:48 (twenty years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 18:36 (twenty years ago)
― wmlynch (wlynch), Thursday, 3 November 2005 05:00 (twenty years ago)
I also started Dining On Stones by Iain Sinclair, but it seems a bit difficult for my jellied brain. No doubt very good though. It is also a bit London-centric, which makes it read like onw of those ILE London bus route threads. And the constant reference to roads reminds me of the dad out of The Kumars at Number 40.
I will read it when I calm down.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 3 November 2005 11:56 (twenty years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 3 November 2005 12:10 (twenty years ago)
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 3 November 2005 12:16 (twenty years ago)
Now I'm reading "Roads To Santiago" by Cees Nooteboom. More non-fiction! It's a travel book, by my fave Dutch fiction writer, about Spain.
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 4 November 2005 09:56 (twenty years ago)
I am back on Dining On Stones.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 4 November 2005 11:26 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 4 November 2005 11:27 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Saturday, 5 November 2005 06:08 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Sunday, 6 November 2005 19:59 (twenty years ago)
Don Quixote. The Rutherford translation.Catcher in the Rye
I am moving on to any of these in the near future:
Assorted Ira Levin.The Pillow Book of Sei ShonagonGargantua and PantagruelAlice's Adventures in Wonderland/Through the Looking-Glass
― mj (robert blake), Monday, 7 November 2005 00:25 (twenty years ago)
Iain Sinclair on hold for the time being. Pleasde people tell me if all his books are like this. I know he gets biggied up a lot on ILE, so the answer is probably yes.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 7 November 2005 08:25 (twenty years ago)
Re: Roads to Santiago. I picked up a momento in Santiago Cathedral in September (you get given it after paying respects to St James). I asked him to help West Ham out this season and have put it into my wallet for every home game since. We have not lost. Iago? Not just a Moor Slayer, he shores up the defence too.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 7 November 2005 11:41 (twenty years ago)
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 7 November 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)
― gunther heartymeal (keckles), Monday, 7 November 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)
― youn, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 02:34 (twenty years ago)
― wmlynch (wlynch), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 06:24 (twenty years ago)
Now, for my sins, attempting to recapture my misspent youth with 'Dragonlance - the Second Generation'. (Hey, I need some autumn comfort reading, OK?) This I really am expecting to be quite bad.
― Mog, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 13:28 (twenty years ago)
It probably has, how you say, THRILL-POWER (tm).
― the bellefox, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:00 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 17:31 (twenty years ago)
I’m also reading bits and pieces of a book based on the Gilmore Girls television series. It’s hilarious! And oh so wrong.
From Orhan Pamuk to a book based on a TV series. Now that’s my kind of reading. Is Neil Gaiman the bridge that connects the two?
― zan, Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:08 (twenty years ago)
― Tripmaker (SDWitzm), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 18:52 (twenty years ago)
― n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 19:18 (twenty years ago)
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Tuesday, 8 November 2005 21:58 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 09:01 (twenty years ago)
Similar to Timequake with overlapping stories and characters. A throwaway science fiction story on every other page. Not sure what Vonngut makes of science fiction. He deliberately seems to write bad stories and then laugh at them. I personally don't care two hoots for science fiction, but there you go. Sorry, so it goes.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 12:30 (twenty years ago)
― misshajim (strand), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)
But, small doses required or brain explosion.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)
― Gail S, Wednesday, 9 November 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)
I have passed the fifty book mark, but I'm not reviving the thread for fear of mockery.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 17:29 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 21:01 (twenty years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 23:25 (twenty years ago)
What version of this are you reading, Ray? I am currently reading this too -- I read the first volume over the last two days -- and I am finding all of the various footnotes in the Norton copy to be extremely elucidative. I recommend it; I think it is more helpful than the Penguin/Modern Library editions.
It could be, though, that none of that matters to you, or this is the version that you are using. In which case, just ignore what I said.
Anyhow, what I have read so far has been pretty damn solid. It can be difficult in spots, but his playfulness makes up for that.
― mj (robert blake), Thursday, 10 November 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Thursday, 10 November 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 10 November 2005 12:08 (twenty years ago)
The rest is lovely and the idea of Spain as an island 'welded to the Pyranees' (as Auden earlier proclaimed) juxtaposed with Sancho Panza's king of the island experience, works a treat.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 10 November 2005 14:21 (twenty years ago)
Can anyone tell me whether or not the George R.R. Martin series is any good? Though I think I'm destined to read Nabokov or Dostoevsky next instead. Finding out that Richard Pevear doesn't really speak Russian makes the P/V translation of Brothers Karamazov all the more appealing.
― zan, Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Thursday, 10 November 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)
― Stan Fields (Stan Fields), Thursday, 10 November 2005 23:50 (twenty years ago)
56th attempt, I think.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 11 November 2005 09:28 (twenty years ago)
Really? I found that pretty readable. Is it the book itself, or do you just keep getting sidetracked by other things?
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 12 November 2005 19:36 (twenty years ago)
However...
I am now reading Head On by Julian Cope. It's OK. I think it is the only book in the world about Tamworth, but perhaps you know otherwise.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 14 November 2005 12:04 (twenty years ago)
A Favourite of the Gods by Sybille BedfordLibrary: an Unquiet History by Matthew Battles
And I am judging a poetry competition so I expect my reading for next few weeks to be very unfun.
― Archel (Archel), Monday, 14 November 2005 13:20 (twenty years ago)
I also read a first English translation of the first Moomin book by Tove Jansson, The Little Trolls and the Great Flood.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 14 November 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 14 November 2005 16:00 (twenty years ago)
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 14 November 2005 17:15 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 14 November 2005 18:03 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Monday, 14 November 2005 21:38 (twenty years ago)
― pretentioRemy (x Jeremy), Monday, 14 November 2005 22:20 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 14 November 2005 23:20 (twenty years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 01:53 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 02:28 (twenty years ago)
but i wish they'd do that too.
― Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 02:35 (twenty years ago)
Definitely uneven. After the greatness of volume four and noses, particularly Slawkenberguis's Tale, volume five is rough. The only thing I remember from it is "white bears," and that is probably because it was located at the end of the volume (Corporal Trim's explanation of maintaining radical moisture and heat is pretty great, too).
The Norton footnotes help explain his train of thought, especially with all of the assorted philosophers, thinkers, Greek, and Latin I don't know about. This does not necessarily let me in on the joke, but it helps in displaying the fellow's wit.
I am taking a break from this for the time being. I feel like I am trying to read it too fast, and it is taking away from the humor of the thing.
― mj (robert blake), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 04:41 (twenty years ago)
Also, if it's Greek, use Greek letters. Seriously. Talking about "muthos" just doesn't cut it.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 06:11 (twenty years ago)
about halfway through this Spike Lee bio, That's My Story and I'm Sticking to It--awful title, lousy cover, solidly written book. nothing amazing but I've always been a big fan of Lee as a public figure (though I'm a lax filmgoer/seer and have only seen four or five of his movies).
The Rough Guide Book of Playlists is sickeningly addictive
― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 10:47 (twenty years ago)
Have you read Cryptonomicon? I'm on the final Baroque Cycle book at the moment, and I've just got to a part that suddenly explains some random Cryptonomicon stuff - which has filled me with hope that Stevenson actually will manage to tie up every single plot point in these books, given a few thousand more pages.
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 12:18 (twenty years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 18:32 (twenty years ago)
― Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)
Nope. The gold sheets with holes in that are found in one (or possibly both, actually) of the sunken submarines.
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)
― Docpacey (docpacey), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 00:57 (twenty years ago)
i've never taken greek but i've been required, in the past, to learn to at least be able to sound it out appropriately. yet i can still remember a time not too long ago when the presence of non-trivial amounts of greek in a text inclined me to lazily pass it by - it's a thankless task, sounding out words you don't have much sense of the meanings of, and then retaining any knowledge at all of those words.
― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 06:09 (twenty years ago)
(And I should clarify that it's not every use of λογος in every text that should be rendered in the original, even though it's one of those notoriously untranslatable words -- just when λογος is being discussed in the text more or less directly should it be kept in the original. I mean, it should be kept to a minimum.)
Anyway I don't rule the world, so it hardly matters.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 07:03 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 07:06 (twenty years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)
Still on three-word books. Next is "George and Rue" by George Elliott Clarke. I think it's Canadian.
Here's a question for the librarians and more generalist classifiers and filers amongst you: how many words are there in the title of the novel "GB84"? I think I could justify any answer between 1 and 4.
― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)
Well, you asked.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 18:43 (twenty years ago)
I've just realised what a ridiculous busman's holiday it is that I'm reading a book about libraries in my 'leisure' time. Even a non-academic one. Subconsciously I am becoming a monomaniac.
― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 16 November 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 17 November 2005 00:23 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 17 November 2005 00:26 (twenty years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Thursday, 17 November 2005 02:20 (twenty years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Thursday, 17 November 2005 02:25 (twenty years ago)
It's about Great Britain in the year nineteen eighty four, yes.
I thought the least likely answer to arrive from you lot would be "one word", which shows how much I know. It's not really important! It's only so I know when to read it in order to be in line with this daft number-of-words-in-the-title thing, which is all Archel's fault anyway.
A geebiatifore is a kind pinafore worn by a particularly right-wing Prime Minister.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 17 November 2005 09:54 (twenty years ago)
Or an unkind pinafore, if you prefer.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 17 November 2005 09:55 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 17 November 2005 10:40 (twenty years ago)
What answer best serves your purposes? Because that is the correct one.
Is it about The Smiths then?
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 17 November 2005 11:53 (twenty years ago)
I suppose deciding it's four words suits my purpose. But if I arbitrarily make that decision and read it next month (because I want to read it) will anyone hold it against me?
I think it is a bit about the Smiths, but I don't know because I haven't read it becqause I don't know when I'm allowed to.
"The Lone Woman" by Bernardo Atxaga is a bit about the Smiths too. At least, a bit of it is, a bit.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 17 November 2005 11:59 (twenty years ago)
It might be interesting if it was, or were, a bit about the Smiths, but actually, it isn't, or ain't.
Your sentence about the BFG makes me chuckle.
― the minefox, Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:01 (twenty years ago)
Fine, go ahead, cheat. I won't hold it against you. Honestly I won't.
Now I have to find other books for you to read in acronym April. Anything rather than do my work.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Thursday, 17 November 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)
It reminds me a bit of the more unpleasant aspects of I_L_X, which I think we could all do without.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 17 November 2005 16:55 (twenty years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 17 November 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Friday, 18 November 2005 10:28 (twenty years ago)
he was on drugs
I suspect the dream was really about myself
rather than him
― cozen (Cozen), Friday, 18 November 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)
Archel, we had a poetry comp in our shop over the summer. 400 entries. Many of them awful. I feel your pain.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 18 November 2005 11:19 (twenty years ago)
Notes on a Scandal by Zoe Heller and Case Histories by Kate Atkinson. Not books I'd have gone into a bookshop and bought, but my wife took them on holiday and they were lying around at a time when I couldn't think of anything I was desperate to read. Both very enjoyable although I doubt I'll be able to remember I've read them in a year's time. I'm surprised Notes was Booker shortlisted: quite mainstream and slight, and the technically difficult bit (the unreliable narrator giving herself away) isn't particulary well handled - the revelations aren't smooth or gradual enough. But more enjoyable than most Booker shortlisted novels I've read, so I'm not carping.
A Spell, Hollinghurst. I've only read Line of Beauty of his before and this wasn't as good. Hollinghurst really can write, but he over-indulges his fondness for being Henry James lite in this. There's not much in the way of plot or satirical edge so it stands or falls as a character study, and Hollinghurst isn't interested enough in people to pull that off. His characters are types; deftly-drawn, three-dimensional types to be fair, but still types. The novel is less soapy than LOB ( more accurately, it tries harder to disguise its essential soapiness) and is less enjoyable as a result.
True Grit. About half-way through. Astonishingly well done, but I suspect a hymn to Presbyterian grittiness won't resonate with me the way it has with the book's more fanatical admirers. If you're Scottish you've seen too much of the downside of that kind of joylessness.
Never Had it So Good etc Dominic Sandbrook. A hundred pages or so in. I'm enjoying this a lot but I've always been fascinated by Britain in the 50s and early 60s, something to do with it being when my parents met, married, were young.
― frankiemachine, Friday, 18 November 2005 11:55 (twenty years ago)
― youn, Friday, 18 November 2005 12:11 (twenty years ago)
I started reading this this morning, but now I don't have to finish it because you've given the game away. I thought it was a bit odd that she disses plumbers.
The Sinclair book is/was Dining On Stones.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 18 November 2005 13:17 (twenty years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Friday, 18 November 2005 15:33 (twenty years ago)
X-posts: 'True Grit' and the first one of the Baroque Cycle are both on my winter reading pile.
― Mog, Friday, 18 November 2005 15:39 (twenty years ago)
I don't have the book to hand but didn't think I'd given any more away than the book jacket blurb!! (on the British paperback, at least).
I've forgotten the plumber dissing bit already.
― frankiemachine, Friday, 18 November 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)
She says the schoolkids are condemend to become shop assistants and plumbers. The only bit so far that doesn't really ring true, so perhaps it is deliberate.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 18 November 2005 18:27 (twenty years ago)
I like this book. I am nearing the home straight.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Sunday, 20 November 2005 13:07 (twenty years ago)
Anyway, I managed to zip through the first 150 or so pages yesterday, but now that he's getting into stuff I don't know as well and which is a bit thornier it might slow me down.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 20 November 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 21 November 2005 02:09 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 21 November 2005 04:19 (twenty years ago)
― Matt (Matt), Monday, 21 November 2005 09:34 (twenty years ago)
I think that this time next year, when I'll have read 13, I'll need to start at the beginning again because characters are coming back from earlier books and I can't remember who they are or what they did last time I came across them. It's an unfortunate effect of book-a-year publishing.
― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 21 November 2005 10:32 (twenty years ago)
Laugh away, I don't care.
― Mädchen (Madchen), Monday, 21 November 2005 10:33 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 21 November 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)
I'm now reading "Spoon River Anthology" by Edgar Lee Masters and I'm enjoying it very much. I'd never heard of it before but I get the impression that it's a famous book in that America, the kind of book you're given to read in school when you're 13, like an American goth "Cider With Rosie" or something.
Americans! Am I right?
― Tim (Tim), Monday, 21 November 2005 12:29 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 21 November 2005 12:57 (twenty years ago)
Josh's last post looks baffling!
I am still not finding any time to read anything properly, because of the amount of reading I have to do. I admire the reading that you people do.
I read Stefan Collini on Edmund Wilson's drinking on Saturday night, though; that might appeal to some.
PJM's comparison of Sinclair to, not merely ilx, but I_L_X, was amusing, or interesting!
― the bellefox, Monday, 21 November 2005 15:57 (twenty years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Monday, 21 November 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)
There is one respect, it must be said, in which this thoughtful biography provides support for contemporary nostalgia for Wilson as representative of a world we have lost. The evidence really does suggest that drinks just aren’t what they used to be: nowadays they’re mostly lower in alcohol and a hell of a lot less frequent. Dabney reckons that Wilson was ‘the only well-known literary alcoholic of his generation whose work was not compromised by his drinking’. But it seems at least as true to say that his drinking wasn’t compromised by his work, either. He really could put it away, quarts of the stuff: gin and whisky for the most part, various bootleg substitutes when necessary, fashionable cocktails when available, and anything that was going when the cocktails ran out. In the 1920s one of his contemporaries teased him about getting by ‘on a diet of Proust and grain alcohol’, but the truth was that by then he had his dependence on Proust well under control.
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:29 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 21 November 2005 20:50 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:03 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 21 November 2005 21:23 (twenty years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 10:51 (twenty years ago)
Also read a Philip Marsden travel book on Armenia, which was well written, but didn't make me want to go there, much.
And some Brautigan poetry yesterday (The Pill vs the Spring-Hill Mining Disaster).
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:05 (twenty years ago)
I am reading Gilead by Marilynne Robinson, and still the book about libraries, and A Favourite of the Gods by Sybille Bedford, and some poems, and not being able to concentrate on anything for more than a few minutes at a time. I just keep going 'meh' and picking up a crossword instead. I need a book that is so gripping I forget everything else; I haven't had one of those for ages.
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 11:40 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 12:42 (twenty years ago)
I think Never Let Me Go is up next, though RJM is encouraging me into a second literary death match: Infinite Jest vs. Moby Dick.
― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 16:04 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)
I've actually read partway into IJ when it first came out - got to a point where I knew if I read another page, I'd have to read the entire thing through without sleeping, so put it down. It's a 4 day weekend coming up, so might be time to dive back in. I thought we had a copy of The Recognitions laying around, but can't find it. Otherwise it might be a Foster Wallace vs. Gaddis death match.
― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:22 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)
― wmlynch (wlynch), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 17:52 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 18:00 (twenty years ago)
I'm not sure how you'd want something matched.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 20:00 (twenty years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 21:32 (twenty years ago)
I wish I had a free recent McGahern!
― the bellefox, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 12:22 (twenty years ago)
I finished it. I enjoyed it.
I have started Felicia's Journey by William Trevor, starring Bob Hoskins. So far it is very good, but my attention span is yet to be tested.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 12:45 (twenty years ago)
― youn, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 13:19 (twenty years ago)
― the bellefox, Wednesday, 23 November 2005 14:28 (twenty years ago)
― Navek Rednam (Navek Rednam), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)
Email me your address and I'll send you one. We've got loads.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)
― cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 21:31 (twenty years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 24 November 2005 11:02 (twenty years ago)
I'm off to have Thanksgiving at a friend's house -- she is a relatively recent friend and so I suspect I don't know the people who will be there, so I have to be prepared for this sort of eventuality. I bet they will eat the robot line up!
(Meanwhile the robots don't get to go to Thanksgiving. Suckers!)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 24 November 2005 17:43 (twenty years ago)
I finished "Spoon River Anthology" and I liked it without loving it as much as I expected. The absence of response on whether this is a standard school text speaks (slim) volumes, thanks. I suppose it's the kind of thing I'll come back to from time to time over the years, and will either grow to love or grow to ignore. Actually it's the kind of thing I'll give to my Uncle for Xmas. Note to self.
Then after that I finished "Earth and Ashes" by Atiq Rahimi, which wasn't such an achievement because it's about 50 pages long, and each page has widely-spaced text and big margins and that. It's a short tale of multiple misery in occupied Afghanistan (the Soviet occupation, rather than any of the other ones, although for the purposes of the story it probably doesn't make a lot of difference and ah! perhaps there is the rub).
And now I've started on "Fiesta In November" by Eduardo Mallea, luscious Argentine aristo ennui to start off with but this is a novel from 1938 so my guess is we'll have some Strong Feelings by nightfall. It's an old Calder and Boyars edition, which tend to be unlovely in presentation, but always promise great literary joys and (as often as not) deliver. I keep wanting to call them Callard and Bowsers and that makes me want to EAT. Their bookshop is just down the road from here. I should go more.
(Three word titles, America Afghanistan, Argentina, this is getting silly.)
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 25 November 2005 10:23 (twenty years ago)
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 25 November 2005 11:48 (twenty years ago)
I am going to fall behind in my goal to finish at least 200 books this year if I don't start reading again this weekend.
― tokyo nursery school: afternoon session (rosemary), Friday, 25 November 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)
Have heard of it, but never actually read it. I don't think either of my kids had to read it for school. But there are many available used on Amazon and ABE, so someone somewhere has been reading it.
― Jaq (Jaq), Friday, 25 November 2005 16:08 (twenty years ago)
I don't remember this coming up before! But yes, I had to read it in high school, or at least parts of it. And it lead to creative writing exercises that you can probably guess at.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 25 November 2005 16:30 (twenty years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Friday, 25 November 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)
I can't believe Rosemary is going to read 200 books this year.
I saw Tab Hunter once, in the movie Damn Yankees. I also saw a film once that was announced in the schedules as starring Clint Eastwood, but actually starred... Clint Walker. I watched it anyway. I suppose this was in about 1987, or perhaps even later.
I am now going to read some books about black experiences in Britain.
― the bellefox, Friday, 25 November 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)
Mallea's "Fiesta In November" rounded off three word November rather appropriately, and it turned out to be a subtle thing, rather than the full-on, knees-bent plea for realness I was half-expecting. I liked it very much.
So then December came round and got a cold and went to to bed and while I was there I read "The Little White Car" by Danuta de Rhodes, who is of course Dan Rhodes of "Anthropology" and "Timoleon Vieta" fame (?) and like his other books this one's light as a feather but pleasing all the same. The moment when you go "oh! that little white car!" is a good moment.
And then I read "Philip and the Others" by Cees Nooteboom, which was written when Cees was a very young man and was re-published after Cees became a famous writer fellow wmuch later. It's by no means perfect but I love Nooteboom and it was a pleasure to read what really amounts to some late juvenilia. Oddly it read more like his later travel writing than his later novel writing. There's a thing!
And now I am onto "The Plague-Spreader's Tale" by Gesualdo Bufalino which is difficult and wordy (I suspect not just intranslation, either, though obviously I can't know) and which I'm loving very much so far, lots of the kind of scabby funnies which I like.
I'm lining up some "The ______ of the ________" novels for January, which wil be the final month of this ridiculous exercise. This will include "The Year of the Hare" by Arto Paasilinna and "The Day of the Owl" by Leonardo Sciascia. Recommendations in this direction much appreciated.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 10:23 (nineteen years ago)
Written in 1935!
Also a Harry Harris biography of Pele which was flattering crap.
That's 100 for the year for me now and an eye rest is long overdue.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 10:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 11:13 (nineteen years ago)
― Nathalie (stevie nixed), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 11:17 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 11:24 (nineteen years ago)
Some four-word recommendations:The Book of Love by Roddy Lumsden and The Street of Clocks by Thomas Lux [are you doing poetry?]The Safety of Objects by A.M. HomesVenus As a Boy by Luke SutherlandA Passage to India by E.M. Forster
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:41 (nineteen years ago)
I haven't looked at any Roddy Lumsden for ages, perhaps now's the time. Poetry I am doing. Short stories I am not.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 13:42 (nineteen years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 14:17 (nineteen years ago)
― Abbadabba Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:06 (nineteen years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:13 (nineteen years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:22 (nineteen years ago)
No way am I coming anywhere near 100 like Mikey G; I think I'll just manage to squeeze in a nice round 40.
― zan, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago)
No Tim, I think it was set in Surrey. Maybe the great East Devon indie scene novel is yet to be written... by you.
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:51 (nineteen years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 15:57 (nineteen years ago)
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 16:18 (nineteen years ago)
― zan, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 20:50 (nineteen years ago)
The Sidmouth Letters sounds great, or something.
In theory I want to read Didion's book too. But then, I ought to read other Didions first. Jaq reads some great books!
TH, you are way ahead of me on all that black experience stuff. I am a novice merely. I read a novel and some oral history and criticism - utilitarian stuff, not the panorama of reading you would have produced. It still took me ages, though.
I have been reading about London. Next I am going to read David Mitchell. I can Report Back on this soon, probably.
― the bellefox, Tuesday, 6 December 2005 21:44 (nineteen years ago)
I'm reading a book about a guy who tracked down the 10 alive Brazilians from the 1970 World Cup Final line up in 1997. It's wizard.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 10:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 11:09 (nineteen years ago)
Just finished Saving Agnes by Rachel Cusk. Her first novel, and only one I've read: very talented but raw. Left me wanting to try one of her later novels to find out if she managed to fulfil the promise she showed in that one.
Also Arthur and George, a brilliant idea, beautifully crafted. It was genius of Barnes to spot how well this story would fit his thematic interests. And yet, somehow it lacked the emotional impact this story should have had - an enjoyable read that won't linger long in the mind. The problem I think was the characters, finely drawn but ultimately not quite coming alive, too much like exhibits in a museum of Victoriana.
― frankiemachine, Wednesday, 7 December 2005 12:24 (nineteen years ago)
(Also the first valley in West Dorset is the next valley to the first valley in East Devon innit? Anyway she will only appear in the title, as the spectre of actual future pop success, something which will not touch any of the other characters.)
― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 12:31 (nineteen years ago)
Oh dear God, I hate myself for having bought this book. I guess it's telling that it's been four years since I purchased it, and I've never gotten past the six-page prologue.
― Øystein (Øystein), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Øystein (Øystein), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 13:50 (nineteen years ago)
― the bellefox, Thursday, 8 December 2005 16:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Øystein (Øystein), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Friday, 9 December 2005 10:36 (nineteen years ago)
This is my suggestion for Tim, I am not reading it. I am not reading anything, excpet JtN's bits in Uncut, which I hold entirely responsible for me just having watched about a quarter of a Will Young song on the telly.
Also, will Sid from Blue be in it? And what about that underage bird with a big bra?
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Saturday, 10 December 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Saturday, 10 December 2005 22:21 (nineteen years ago)
Those Extremadurans eh?
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Monday, 12 December 2005 08:54 (nineteen years ago)
It's odd: I think I like her, yet it is hard for me to find many bits of this book that I really like or admire. Amis was right, she is mannered; and there is an unfortunate note of blank superiority in too much of the writing - perhaps.
I am thinking, for instance, of the page in the 'Many Mansions' essay when she reflects on how other people don't know what a 'pastry marble' is. I fear that she talks a load of balderdash at this point.
― the pinefox, Monday, 12 December 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 12 December 2005 21:42 (nineteen years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Monday, 12 December 2005 22:51 (nineteen years ago)
Read Tolstoy's play "The Living Corpse" yesterday, and have just barely started on Coetzee's "Slow Man".
― Øystein (Øystein), Monday, 12 December 2005 23:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 12 December 2005 23:18 (nineteen years ago)
― youn, Tuesday, 13 December 2005 02:17 (nineteen years ago)
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 05:09 (nineteen years ago)
― Abbadavid Berman (Hurting), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 05:49 (nineteen years ago)
Now I'm reading "The Council of Egypt" by Leonardo Sciascia (who I understand was something of a mentor to Bufalino). Intricate, slow-moving, political. Loving every line of it. And, again, I get a little twinge of pleasure every time I look at the word Sciascia. Sha-sha. Mmmm.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 11:39 (nineteen years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 13:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Markelby (Mark C), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 14:04 (nineteen years ago)
No idea what I'll read next, maybe I'll give non-fiction a shot.
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 18:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 19:02 (nineteen years ago)
― Docpacey (docpacey), Tuesday, 13 December 2005 22:39 (nineteen years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 02:07 (nineteen years ago)
Now: "The Quest for Dr. U" by Hans Carl Artmann. Austrian experimentalism, it seems. So far it's reading a lot like Raymond Queneau and it's published by Atlas, who publish plenty of Queneau stuff. I wonder if it's the same translator?
― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 10:58 (nineteen years ago)
― Mädchen (Madchen), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 11:42 (nineteen years ago)
You know what I'm like with films: I'm not, not really. But I'm always up for "heartwrenching commentary on impoverished children's lives, on friendship, corruption and betrayal [more]".
― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 11:58 (nineteen years ago)
― the bellefox, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 14:14 (nineteen years ago)
― the pinefox, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 16:27 (nineteen years ago)
― zan, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 17:02 (nineteen years ago)
― moriarty (moriarty), Thursday, 15 December 2005 01:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 15 December 2005 01:57 (nineteen years ago)
― mj (robert blake), Thursday, 15 December 2005 02:42 (nineteen years ago)
― moriarty (moriarty), Thursday, 15 December 2005 03:20 (nineteen years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Thursday, 15 December 2005 05:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Ray (Ray), Thursday, 15 December 2005 09:28 (nineteen years ago)
The Incas were so advanced in many ways (stone masonry, logistics etc) but military wise they were still in the bronze age. The overwhelming difference between the Spanish and the Incas was the horse, the tank of its day. It made all the difference.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Thursday, 15 December 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago)
― rogermexico (rogermexico), Friday, 16 December 2005 01:58 (nineteen years ago)
― NavekRednam, Friday, 16 December 2005 23:07 (nineteen years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 19 December 2005 14:17 (nineteen years ago)
also i'm on pg 18 of s/z by roland barthes but i think i'm not in the mood for it now
― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, 19 December 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Monday, 19 December 2005 15:40 (nineteen years ago)
Yesterday I read "The Mistress of Silence" by Jaqueline Harpmann, French psychological sci-fi of a sort, entertaining enough without amazing me.
Now I'm reading "The Devil's Own Work" by Alan Judd. It seems qui8te good, so far. Nice and short.
Attentive readers may have noted that "The Quest For Dr. U" has five words in the title. I hadn't noticed that until just now. I've blown it and I'm gutted.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 10:31 (nineteen years ago)
I'm also reading 'Jazz' by Toni Morrison. For those of you who havent read it, do so immediately. It won the nobel prize and is almost like reading poetry.
― Shutruk Nahhunte (Shutruk Nahhunte), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago)
― Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago)
My girlfriend bought me a first edition Brautigan for my birthday. My cup overfloweth.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago)
― the firefox, Tuesday, 20 December 2005 15:21 (nineteen years ago)
Mike, I hope it didn't leave a stain.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago)
Nobel prize does not go to books. This is starting to bother me almost as much as people writing Meat Loaf's name as one word.
I am not reading anything. It's for squares. I'm wired for sound.
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 16:20 (nineteen years ago)
So, now I'm reading Paal Brekke's "Aldrende Orfeus" ("Aging Orpheus") which is one of the big classics of Norwegian post-war literature. I have't quite managed to commit myself to it though, as I keep trying to find the Vian.
― Øystein (Øystein), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 18:27 (nineteen years ago)
PF, I have finally got around to bringing your book home from the shop and will make a little parcel of it tonight. It can be like a Christmas present!
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 18:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 18:53 (nineteen years ago)
― M. White (Miguelito), Tuesday, 20 December 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 12:02 (nineteen years ago)
― Redd Harvest (Ken L), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 14:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Roxymuzak, Mrs. Carbohydrate (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 14:51 (nineteen years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 17:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 18:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Wednesday, 21 December 2005 22:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Thursday, 22 December 2005 05:20 (nineteen years ago)
The Old Patagonian Express itself is a lovely train ride. "the smell of yesterday's picnic' as Chatwin captured it.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 22 December 2005 10:15 (nineteen years ago)
Now I'm reading "You're An Animal, Viskovitz!" by Alessandro Boffa. Although it's a title with a surfeit of punctuation, something I take to be a bad sign, it's enjoyable enough. A series of small tales, with something of the tone of Dan Rhodes about them, featuring the lives of various animals. It gets quite biological at times but gives - guess what?- an insight into the human condition, or at least that's what it says on the cover. I've laughed, at least three times, and I'm only on page 72. That's quite unusual.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 22 December 2005 10:19 (nineteen years ago)
Next, I'm going to read a book that doesn't contain 100 pages of footnotes.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 22 December 2005 10:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 22 December 2005 10:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 22 December 2005 12:11 (nineteen years ago)
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Thursday, 22 December 2005 13:39 (nineteen years ago)
I am reading The Complete Letters of Oscar Wilde!
Well, at the moment I am only rereading the Introduction.
It is by Merlin Holland.
― the snowfox, Thursday, 22 December 2005 21:08 (nineteen years ago)
Now - Henry James!
― the snowfox, Friday, 23 December 2005 11:17 (nineteen years ago)
He uses 'uglies' to denote ladies of less than beautiful perfection. The correct term is, of course, minger.
― Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 23 December 2005 11:19 (nineteen years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 23 December 2005 12:06 (nineteen years ago)
― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 24 December 2005 09:42 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 24 December 2005 11:20 (nineteen years ago)
I read 'Daisy Miller'. I don't think it delivered.
I have moved on to F. Scott Fitzgerald.
― the snowfox, Saturday, 24 December 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago)
― frankiemachine, Saturday, 24 December 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago)
― Chris F. (servoret), Sunday, 25 December 2005 09:36 (nineteen years ago)
― PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Monday, 26 December 2005 17:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Aimless (Aimless), Monday, 26 December 2005 17:38 (nineteen years ago)
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Monday, 26 December 2005 19:15 (nineteen years ago)
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 27 December 2005 19:29 (nineteen years ago)
― the finefox, Tuesday, 27 December 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 21:58 (nineteen years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 21:59 (nineteen years ago)
I daresay I am stating the obvious again.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 27 December 2005 22:42 (nineteen years ago)
― Jaq (Jaq), Tuesday, 27 December 2005 22:47 (nineteen years ago)
― the snowfox, Tuesday, 27 December 2005 23:44 (nineteen years ago)
A: He’d want to read The Whole Equation quickly. He’d be sad, very sad–but he was when he was alive. I hope he’d salute my book and we could share a drink, or seven. I would love to try to finish The Last Tycoon the way he laid it out.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 27 December 2005 23:44 (nineteen years ago)