I don't understand the "This is the thread where I say..." threads.

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Why do people post to these threads? I find them excruciating to read (and hence haven't for a long, long time) and can't really understand people's urges to post to them.

Now, obviously these threads just aren't for me. I'm just curious as to what the allure is. Also, what goes on in them these days? I had a quick glance through the most recent one and it looked pretty-much the same as in the beginning.

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:16 (twenty-one years ago)

It's the ILX locker room. We talk about who we've banged and compare wangs.

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

notably, we're all 2-inch virgins.

― x j e r e m y (x Jeremy), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Like the rest of ILE, people just talk about whatever. Unlike the rest of ILE, people are generally polite.

xpost: Huck is more of a 5cm virgin, but yeah.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

its like the mongrels sheepfuxors thread? not really meant to be read so much as participated in.

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Both the This is and the Mongrel/Sheepfuxor threads function as communities within a community, and notably they make their way along without much disrupting them. A parallel might be to the legendary Nas/Jay-Z thread runs on ILM, except there a slew of outsiders came to argue and then came to stay, almost solely esconced in their own spot. Here, meanwhile, regulars (and past regulars) responded to two separate moments of inspiration that took on lives on their own.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

gidday Ned!

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude the Nas and Jay-Z thread was way better, no offense or anything.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

a winner is you, ally.

― the surface noise (slight return) (electricsound), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Unlike the rest of ILE, people are generally polite.

Apparently.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

*bows* No qualitative comparison was implied.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

G'day Ally, Jim, Spence

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:38 (twenty-one years ago)

The TITTWIS threads are just supposed to be basic "hey, this is how I'm doing" threads, a place where people don't have to worry about being Cooler Than Thou, exceedingly knowledgable about things, or super-impressive. That's why the TITTWIS threads are always my favorite threads around.

Some have complained of there being a clique around this thread series, when there really isn't. I think we TITTWISers can all safely say that we encourage more people to come into the TITTWIS fray and never wish to become some sort of closed-door club, exclusive to all but a few. Really, anyone who is willing to participate in a thread that doesn't seek to prove anything or impart any sort of advanced cultural knowledge is welcome.

You know, the thread isn't even geographically specific. The "mongrels sheepfuxors" thread is a perfectly fine one because obv the Oceania contingency here have the right to communicate in a way the residents of those two countries would be able to understand, with all the regional lingo and references and all, but sometimes various bits of this forum get incredibly geographically specific to the point where if you don't live in a specific part of the U.S. or UK, you can't see how in the world you can work yourself into the thread. The TITTWIS threads transcend that.

I love TITTWIS, even when I can't find the time to keep up with it the way I'd like to. I welcome as many people as possible to it.

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:38 (twenty-one years ago)

we should have a barbie Dee! the TITTWIS regulars and the mongrel fuxors.

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Doesn't Ned somewhat participate in both?

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)

A barbie at Neds place!

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

*laugh* I can't even begin to imagine what the Barbies for those two thread series would be like. Still, very good idea, gaz.

(xpost) Chris -- yeah, he does. Yay for Ned the Flexible!

(Oh wait. That doesn't mean... that.)

― Many Coloured Halo (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Like I said, it's no offense, I'm pretty sure it's impossible to be better than the Nas/Jay-Z threads. MAYBE the Madonna fight was as good a thread. But they're kind of like the pantheon of thread excellence to be enjoyed by all.

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Yo Spencer, this weekend?

― Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Then there's also the 'Try Glasgow More' thread isn't there? I must admit to the guilty pleasure of reading these threads just for the pleasure of eavesdropping into conversational smalltalk from another place far far away.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but it might be pretty late on friday.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I still don't get it. "A place where people don't have to worry about being Cooler Than Thou?" In which thread are people trying to be cooler than thou? It sure as hell ain't any starring myself, gabbneb, roger, or rasheed counting electoral votes. Because that sure as hell ain't cooler than thou.

Barbies?

― Pleasant Plains (Pleasant Plains), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

sherry, Pleasant?

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

My only problem with those threads (which I don't read at all) is that some of the people who do participate in them always have to critique the rest of ILE as some big-bad scary place that they need to protect themselves from or something.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, also "cleverer than thou". I mean, nothing against the electoral threads, of course, but I believe there's an element of "knowing your shit" in those threads, and that doesn't exist in the "lounge" threads.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)

It's basically an ongoing FAPPY kinda thing for people in the same locale. Mutual local gossip is also shared, and we talk about what was on TV etc. It's a slightly different atmosphere, track dax and timtams and feet on the table, rather than neatly pressed shirt and cutlery. Casuistry's 'lounge thead' idea is very apt.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure "scary" is quite the critique being made.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, I should be more specific - I'm not talking about the mongrel/sheep threads at all (I know very little about those but what I do know sounds like fun).

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

"A place where people don't have to worry about being Cooler Than Thou?"

you certainly couldn't include "Try Glasgow More" in this group.

― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I should also point out that I do in fact like many of the people that (I think) post to the "This is the..." threads.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm equally disinterested in the Mongrels/Sheepfuxor threads, even though I'm a Mongrel myself. I've tried participating before but I guess I just don't care enough to expend the effort.

Here are a few (but not the only) threads on the New Answers page at the moment which I regard as 'my type' of ilx thread:

I don't understand the "This is the thread where I say..." threads. (obviously)
ZORK
Beyond cheap
KNowing you've done something wrong, and waiting to be dealt with...
Why don't you do drugs?
Michael Douglas:The Angriest White Man?
Hatred of Itunes
Go!!
What is the single greatest compliment you've ever recieved?

As you can probably see from that list, I'm not much into the conversational or cliquey threads. I guess I get enough "hey how you doin'? that's nice" and real-life drama stuff in my life offline.

OTM.

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i am going to imagine you in trackdax every time we meet on the mongrel thread col. it is not a pleasant thought.

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Afore these threads appeared, I get the impression many of you got together for AIM chats. Which is fine, except injoke references were made to them later in ILX threads, sometimes with a "you had to be there" tone.

And yes, some people do sometimes give off a "youre not doing it right" vibe that might engender the creation of threads like these - some comments on this thread are perhaps a good example of that.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, saying things like "is that some of the people who do participate in them always have to critique the rest of ILE as some big-bad scary place that they need to protect themselves from or something" doesnt help people who might feel that way's confidence, FFS.

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I always imagine you in that g-string you once mentioned, gaz.

Vive la difference! Different threads for different freds.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

(FWIW, I dont "read" the mongrels threads - there's whole chunks of 'em Ive missed in the past. I just dip in and blab when I feel like blabbing. Whats the effin' problem?

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:09 (twenty-one years ago)

haha and i just thought you were always stoned!

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:10 (twenty-one years ago)

What the? Why? *pout*

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I just dip in and blab when I feel like blabbing. Whats the effin' problem?

I suppose it's fine just as long as that mentality stays within those type of threads. I guess I should consider it a good thing that these threads exist for people that feel the urge to post anything for the sake of posting (note I'm not condemning this).

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:12 (twenty-one years ago)

i have it on now col!

(wow, i hope those scary guys have gone)

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:12 (twenty-one years ago)

people that feel the urge to post anything for the sake of posting

But that's all of us on every thread! (Well, sorta.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Small talk is for small minds. I have a small mind. Teehee! I don't know *giggle*, I'm just like that.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:13 (twenty-one years ago)

But that's all of us on every thread! (Well, sorta.)

The best threads I've read on ILX have been populated heavily by people who have an active interest in participating in a thoughtful discussion of an interesting topic.

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Now now Col...that should have gone on the "Here's where we post something silly" thread.

xpost

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I recognise that the environment as a whole is probably necessary for those threads to come into existence.

xpost

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

You're being a bit of a fecetious cunt about this Andrew :)

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, but as has been mentioned, the "lounge threads" aren't so much for reading as they are for participating in.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Andrew, I agree the most rewarding threasd to read are like those you mentioned. However BOTH kinds can be rewarding to participate in (just like silly and serious conversations)

― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

That was a big ol' xpost, responding to Andrew's "the best threads are..." post.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, that's what those threads are about? Maybe I shouldn't have actually posted the lyrics to "Joey" then? Eh.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

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Andrew's tone seemed fairly condescending IMO, but I didn't take it too seriously because he always seems like a rational and nice guy.

― n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

the italics were a very poor PR move. precious. title of the thread doesn't help either.

― ron (ron), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah kinda Ally

― Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

i like the wizard of oz

― Velveteen Bingo (Chris V), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I like The Wiz.

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Why is meeting someone in person the defining moment in a friendship? It sounds like you're thinking of, say, someone you've met a few times at parties to be considered a more "real" friend than someone you've chatted with about all sorts of sometimes intimate topics online for years, but who lives half a world away and who you're unlikely to actually meet in person.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Casuistry raises a good point. There are a couple of people who I've not met -- some ILXors, others not -- who have proven their friendship time and again strictly through the medium of e-mail or chat.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

The idea of real and fake community is an interesting one to go down - I mean I obviously regard London ILX as a 'real' community as we all see each other on average at least once a week and several of us meet up regularly outside FAPs and other big events.

The original TITTWIS thread was started 16 months ago (!) with more or less exactly the same group of 20 or so people posting - think how far the nascent ILE had come as a community in that timespace. How is that not a real community (or as real as you can get on the internet, and by extension was ILE ever a community, even when it was much smaller)?

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i've never met one of my best friends.

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Are 'Friends' Electric?

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

certainly

― ken c (ken c), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose it is like what Jess said about fake community.

For me, the entire Net is a fake community. It makes me scratch my head that all you folks are getting so bent out of shape over ANY social bullshitting thread. Do you *honestly* give a shit? Gah.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I've deleted several posts just now, because while they would have made me feel better slightly, more bitchiness isn't what I need right now. Having said that, go soak your head, you know who you are.

I don't get why this is such an issue - I didn't think Andrew was being an asshole - you want to know, you want to know. End of story. I am not intimidated by much of anything, and certainly nothing on ILx. I guess, in the end, all it is is a thread about nothing...like many, many others around. It just happens to be an ONGOING thread about nothing. Boring if you aren't into it? Sure. Hell, it's bored me sometimes, but I started it, so I keep up with it. It's not for everyone, and it's okay if you think it's excruciating to read, banal, or just plain fucking dumb. It isn't for you. No harm, no foul.

Andrew asked, I think he's explained himself and everyone else has explained themselves, too, so really, can't we file this under 'asked and answered' and get on with it?

― luna (luna.c), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard Stevie talking to Mark about the TITTWIS thing, once, and he did nice things with a metaphor of ILX as city, with threads as, um, areas or something. I can't do it justice, really.

I get a vibe, sometimes, that certain communities are encouraged on ILX, and others not, but I'm not really seeing any patterns, annoyingly. Like, every Sinist*r thread seems to attract outside attack, but perhaps that's because Sinist*r is a big enough part of ILX for outsiders to feel actually threatened? Whereas you list the Go thread (thanks for the big-up!), where it's pretty much just six-or-so people posting back and forth (new people come come come session tonight, though) as one you like. And a similar thing kinda happens with the occasional freakouts abt SECRET AIM CLIQUES, like on the Boarish thread.

― Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm not a participant to these threads but i always found them kinda sweet (my 2c)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

As a place to post random things that don't really merit a thread of their own as they're kind of in passing, it's a good thing. Sometimes it's like AIM for people who don't like AIM's pace. Also I do notice that quite a few of the people posting there are living somewhere that doesn't lend itself well to FAP action, like Dee or Sam or Huck.

I am so not a fan of CLIQUEFEAR. Yir ontae plums wi' that.

― suzy (suzy), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure why Jess and Ally are bringing up the concept of fake communities (for humour? Okay I guess) but TITTWIS is as real as the rest of ILX, though I agree that there can be a further level of intimacy on the FAP/city/real life threads.

I would assert that the safeness, cosiness, tweeness or whatever of it makes it *more* real in some ways - it may be emo and moany but fuck, that's because it's what the posters are really like. It's a place to express what you're thinking whether it's funny, banal, angry, upset or just to pass the time - and because everyone there is so comfortable with each other, it's necessarily less try-hard than a lot of other threads.

That doesn't mean it's better, though - there isn't a qualititative comparison to be made. I love Ally but I wouldn't want her on the thread - it's clear she doesn't feel anything in common with the vibe there. Which is great - I get my Ally fix elsewhere.

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

The streets?

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a fact of life that in new communities, cliques or groups with similar interests or whatever form. TITTWIS is one of them, and as far as number of posts and friendliness of threads is concerned, it's one of ILX's most successful things. I've no doubt it's an offshoot the originators wouldn't have foreseen, but if it makes a lot of people happy, I hope that's good enough reason for it to be there.

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

The gutter.

― Markelby (Mark C), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost to Suzy: Also, not everyone is on AIM at the same times, of course.

I've been here for two and a half years, and been meeting people for over two, and I've not seen any significant sign of cliques. There are groups of close friends, who like each other's company best, but that's absolutely inevitable and universal within any larger group, and I've never had the sense of their wanting to exclude anyone.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Whatever's cool with me. Rogue agent forevermore.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a vague feeling of jealousy about the chatty friendly threads...like I've spread myself thinly over ILX, and don't have that same level of connectedness, hmmm, nevermind.

― jel -- (jel), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I like how jess has the authority to deem his desired form of human interaction to be the real, authentic version. For the 20,300th time: not everyone is like you, dude. or, you know, even wants to be like you.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

oops are your comebacks on time delay or what?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

also: chill.

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway, the order goes:

-real life (i know nothing about this)
-ilx and other message boards
-things where people pretend to pass each other beers and give them hugs
-mud's and chatrooms

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

-the workplace
-church
-the white house

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

dude bro i'm maxing and relaxing like john paxson. you don't really rile me up anymore. at this point it's just amusing how much of a fascist you are when it comes to these things.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

-high school
-strip clubs
-tv

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

haha if i was really a fascist i would have just deleted the original thread when i was an ile mod

― jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

do you think whoever does the fake beer passings doesn't know it is fake? that they aren't playing with the situation of being in each other's company while physically seperated by hundreds or thousands of miles? maybe it's just tiresome to you, but, like, what isn't?

haha but then you wouldn't get the chance to bitch about it over and over and over.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i've never read any of those threads. i imagine it's all "ooh poochums who i've never met, you are so hot, you go girl, ooh kisses for my clinically depressed internet friend," etc.

― amateur!!stroll, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I have not read this thread but it's probably full of great stuff.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

and if there's one thing I know you actually do enjoy and never tire of, it's looking down your nose at other people. but hey, everyone has their own ways of making themselves feel good. for some, it's passing a fake beer to people on the otherside of the country whom they've never met. for others...

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

ok i skimmed through the latest one and it's not quite what i expected.

― amateur!!st, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

relax Oops - have a glass of this merlot. This is a nice one, I cellared it in 1998.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANDS ACROSS AMERICA

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

oh okay Ally, thanks for showing me your love after Andrew and I already made up. Coming from you, no surprise ever would be unwelcome to me - I just never could predict...

I needed this, 'coz you're my raison d'etre for first staying and now I know none other will do as it's over and I should no longer pretend. Regardless, after remembering this MAYBE the Madonna fight was as good a thread. But they're kind of like the pantheon of thread excellence I am proud to have contributed to something worthwhile! I miss Alfonso (but not Jefireeze). Maybe I'll make your list someday, even if it's not the very nice people one.

The check is in the mail - goodnite poochums!

― Vic (Vic), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't make me revive jess's hippie love thread.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

(and one needn't make fascist actions in order to hold fascist thoughts)

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i think it's really interesting that you raised the "fascist" angle, because truly that's a very seldom disc--KILL ME NOW

― amateur!!st, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

you're really working hard to take over from jess as the most sneering poster, aren't you?

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

thank god you're here.

― cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

thank god all of us are here. pass the bread.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't understand Vic or oops.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 8 September 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Would a diagram help?

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't understand ILX

― rainy (rainy), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't see how Vic and I are more puzzling than those who constantly go on about how this place sucks and they're going away from it for good yet still keep coming back like a flu you can't quite shake off.

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 22:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus Christ, you guys can take this shit off the boards. Nobody cares.

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 8 September 2004 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

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