On whips & chains: The mirth of sadomasochism

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I have a question for all you perverts that like pain with your pleasure - don't you ever just crack yourself up? Do you ever look at what you're doing and bust out laughing, thus ruining the 'dangerous' mood for you and your partner?

Be frank.

Andy, Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

the other morning whilst waiting for breakfast burritos at sonix i listened to 'strangelove' four times in a row. why did it take so long to get my breakfast burritos?

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Couldn't this apply just as well to vanilla sex (which, incidentally, is my flavor of choice)?

Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh fantastic! A sex thread! I can finally let my balls explode.

Markelby (Mark C), Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, presumably if you were any good at all, you wouldn't. Sex is always a sort of shared illusion, and being good at sex is about enhancing that illusion and not breaking it. So your question is sort of like, "Hey, S/M folks, are you bad at sex? Because I sure would be, if I had to do what you do."

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not just sex RS - you could say the same about absolutely any vaguely subcultural activity.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

like internet message boards?

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Too right!

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

True. You ever look at yourself spazzing (or, if you're indie, failing nobly to spaz) on the dance floor? You look ridiculous.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

But I disagree w/Chris that this kind of self-knowledge is the sign of someone being bad at sex (or anything else). I mean as long as it doesn't happen EVERY time.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

You're never really having fun until you look like an ass.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh well yes of course it's OK to have a laugh sometimes. But if you can't suspend your disbelief at all or if you feel like you shouldn't be suspending your disbelief, then that's bad.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

It's kind of like asking "don't you ever crack yourself up because you put your dingle in the lady's hooha?"

You get over it.

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

If you do find the trappings ridiculous you can always do without.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i always laugh durring hummers

dyson (dyson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Prove it.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I laugh quite a bit during hummers but it's because I get ticklish.

TOMBOT, Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

giving or receiving?

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Wasn't there a study that said something like 5% of people laugh during orgasm? I haven't found this to be true of anyone, though.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

If you are inclined to laugh or giggle during s-e-x, you're probably conditioned not to pretty damn quick.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

What? This isn't an Edith Wharton-meets-Story of O thread? Fuck this shit.

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

The thread is still young, take it where you want to take it, G-dog.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

You getting all pedophile, now, macking on the thread, eh?

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Just don't pee on it and we're all good.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I forgot R. Kelly got dibs on that.


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I seem to remember that there was a scene in John Barth's The Floating Opera (his first novel, too), where the narrator finds himself having sex and suddenly spies himself in the mirror while doing it. He finds both the sight and the act so ridiculous that he can't stop laughing. The woman becomes furious at him and leaves, hurt for life or something. I think she might have even killed herself.

Just felt I'd, you know, lighten up the mood or something, guys.

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was kind of normal to sometimes laugh or something during sex, what the hell. You are all some serious mofos.

Allyzay, Thursday, 11 December 2003 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I laugh when I fuck up, to turn a phrase. You know, doing something stupid or clumsy. Yeah.

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

It is. I remember laughing once for some silly little reason and my bf at the time getting really self-conscious and stuff, which was unfortunate because I wasn't laughing at him, etc., etc. Hopefully he's better now, I dunno.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Uh, so people laugh a lot when they have sex with you, Ally? Do you tell ribald jokes?

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

when they have sex with you
ribald

For some reason this juxtaposition is funny. Ribaldry during sex! Oh heavens!

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

that's my subtle wit

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

"Oi, this is tops!"

TOMBORT, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Listen, I mean it's a patently ridiculous act if you think about it. Sometimes things get silly. I am not going to get specific but sometimes they do. Especially if you're really drunk and decide to do some kind of Python-esque comedy skit during it. Not that that's ever happened.

Anyway I don't see what's so funny about being handcuffed or something, that's really hot, but if like we start going into the realm of like la nouvelle Justine stuff I'd probably bust a gut laughing but that's cos I'm not turned on by that. I imagine if you find it sexy you don't find it funny! Unless you fuck up or start giving orders in comedy British accents.

Allyzay, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

And also didn't you all see the ticklish post? Enough with your "ribald jokes"

Allyzay, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA xpost

Allyzay, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

When did the "French Maid" outfit become THE uniform of sex? They're not unattractive, mind you, but I've had so little experience with French maids. Are they wild or something?

Is there still a place in the world for French maid fetishists? It seems sort of Victorian.

Andy, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

power trip

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Sex itself seems kinda Victorian.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

French maids clean in places other maids won't.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

namely, the cock and balls.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.gristmagazine.com/images/books/rooster.jpg
http://www.pilates.net/shop/images/balls.jpg

dyson (dyson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

hey dyson, we should take it on the road! we could like Abbott & Costello meets Carrot Top!

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Fucking jokes

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I laugh quite a bit during hummers but it's because I get ticklish
it's the same with me. i can only handle it for about 15 seconds.

dyson (dyson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

the laughing or the hummer?

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

TS: http://www.iconsofindustry.org/touristguy/page9/tron.jpg vs. http://www.funfolly.com/g/c/cfre2fod.gif

Allyzay, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post - well, both but the laughing be from the humming. you missed your chance to post a pic of a hummer btw.

we could like Abbott & Costello meets Carrot Top
you get to be carrot top.

dyson (dyson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I need more sci-fi themed sex in my life.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

What I don't get why the connection is so solid between the pain/pleasure powerplay thing (which I can get) and the leather and chains paraphernalia thing (which is gothy nonsense).

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess what I'm saying is that I follow a pro-pop spanking agenda.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Even Skinny Puppy fans get to have sex occasionally, you know.

Allyzay, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, but it's like they want to have a monopoly on it.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

like they invented it. like nobody ever had sex before.

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

http://radio.cbc.ca/programs/asithappens/asithappened/photos/monopoly.jpg
HOTT.

Allyzay, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

which is actually sort of how it feels when you first start having sex. You're like "wow, I can't believe I went my whole life without doing this! I wonder if anyone else has heard about this orgasm business! If you could only bottle it, you'd make a fortune!"

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

does the monopoly man get his rocks off beating his partners with that cane?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

You're like "wow, I can't believe I went my whole life without doing this! I wonder if anyone else has heard about this orgasm business! If you could only bottle it, you'd make a fortune!"

Or at the very least, a homemade bukkake film with the longest shooting schedule yet.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember Dave from the Beautiful South saying he used to try to collect his semem in a jar under his bed.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

He said it kept drying out and became a Sisyphusian story for our times.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

try

Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

that was the alternate title to "the woman in the wall" -- "the cum under my pervert bandmate's bed."

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.dunesantiques.com/images/glass/b10cased.jpg

dyson (dyson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope that's one you prepared earlier.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

cumbucket

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.nationaldrumdisposal.com/images/resinremoval10.jpg

dyson (dyson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

now is the time when someone posts that ultra-gross lamprey picture again, isn't it?

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

That is wallpaper paste. I know the difference. My peeling walls attest to this.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

old ILE: all threads end up being about keeping piss in receptacles
nu-ILE: substitute semen

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Nothing like a potent dose of old-fashioned sadomaschism to spice up the weekend.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

it's not nearly as salty

dyson (dyson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

a homemade bukkake film with the longest shooting schedule yet

Hmm.

That is wallpaper paste. I know the difference. My peeling walls attest to this.

Two words: Barton Fink.

Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

my god this explains everything about the Beautiful South.

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

To be fair, I think he was referring back to his teenage years.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

doesn't matter.

teeny (teeny), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Come on, we all used to keep sperm in pots.

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

teenage cum collections are slightly more excusable

dyson (dyson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

http://rarara.v21hosting.co.uk/photos/dscf0012.jpg

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Andy, I find I have to suppress mirth when it comes to tying knots. I am a hopeless at this and the more I struggle with my pathetic granny knot efforts, the funnier it gets.

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

HAHAHAHAHA

Allyzay, Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Come on, we all used to keep sperm in pots.

N, there are some parts of your life we shouldn't know about.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Thursday, 11 December 2003 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

COLIN OTM

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I AM NOT WANKING IN THAT PHOTO.

Colin - have you tried superglue?

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

No, N., I haven't. Thanks for the tip.

Other sources of mirth:

* Damn! Where's the keys to the handcuffs etc. "You put them by the bed" "No, I gave them to you" etc and suddenly you're bickering like it's 8.30am on Monday and you're off to work. "Darling, where's my keys?"

* Phone rings and it's your partner's mum! Remove her gag! "hi mum! Yes, we're both great etc" Always hilarious.

* Neighbour knocks at door, wanting to borrow cup of sugar! Oh shit! Quick! "We're coming!!!!"

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 11 December 2003 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

(walking out of the matrix revolutions)

l: yeah it was pretty good i guess... though, what was with that ridiculous s&m club??
h: i think every movie should be required to have a scene in the ridiculous s&m club
l: every movie? thatd be pretty stressful on the s&m actors guild wouldnt it??
h: well, the great thing about s&m unions is that they dont care if you mistreat them

mark e desade, Friday, 12 December 2003 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

RESTRAINTS ARE FOR LAZIES

Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Friday, 12 December 2003 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm kind of freaked out by that undie hop backpacker dude in the background of that Tron picture. What is going through his head, do you think?

TOMBOT, Friday, 12 December 2003 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

He represents ILX.

Allyzay, Friday, 12 December 2003 02:02 (twenty-one years ago)

it occurs to me also that the "this is weird, this thing that we are doing" thing is part of the appeal, and especially how it works into the power-play, like "my partner is playing along with *this* stuff for me!" is a component of the eroticism?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 12 December 2003 09:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, yes. I imagine that is the case in any sort of supposedly "deviant" variations on "regular" sex.

Allyzay, Friday, 12 December 2003 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

'i totally talked this girl into dressing up like strawberry shortcake - she must really really like me!!!'

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 12 December 2003 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

ILX, Tell me what to do!

Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 12 December 2003 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I have difficulty imagining a situation where laughter during sex would be problematic. During sex which is notably energetic (maybe at noon, rough, stood in the porch, as the second post comes) you must laugh to breathe, laugh through exhilaration. What is the sex where laughter is disapproved? What is the sex with the fear of disapproval?

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Saturday, 13 December 2003 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

What if she went for your junk and started laughing dood?

ModJ (ModJ), Saturday, 13 December 2003 01:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Man, the joke's on her. I haven't washed it since Tuesday.

Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Saturday, 13 December 2003 01:24 (twenty-one years ago)

The only time I've found laughter to be a problem is if someone tries tickling me during sex. I'm very, very ticklish, and usually collapse in uncontrollable laughter and spasms. If I'm tied up at the time (mmmmmmm), I end up with pulled muscles - painful, and not in a good way.

anonymous submissive, Saturday, 13 December 2003 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I was googling for some stuff on the Larry Wachowski divorce hooha and came across this interview with his mistress Ilsa Strix, made me think of this thread.

BDSMers can be as bad as hippies with their 'energy' talk, but that doesn't mean there isn't truth to it. It's all just another type of belief system, you get out of it what you put into it.

teeny (teeny), Saturday, 13 December 2003 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, different strokes for different folks.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 14 December 2003 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

What if she went for your junk and started laughing dood?

A thought: some people are into being humiliated. Does that mean they would like it if their partners laughed at them?

(Of course, it's been so long since I had sex I forget who does what with the bullwhip.)

j.lu (j.lu), Sunday, 14 December 2003 03:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I once read that a great way to play with someone's mind is to blindfold them, tie them up and then... turn on the blender. Ahahaha!!!

the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 14 December 2003 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

So that was you?

, Sunday, 14 December 2003 04:23 (twenty-one years ago)

What a magnificent nose.

the music mole (colin s barrow), Sunday, 14 December 2003 08:24 (twenty-one years ago)


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