SHOUT FOR THE MODERATOR VII

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Usual spiel (pasted from other thread):

If something needs our attention on either board, post it here. Someone will probably be along shortly.
Here is the FAQ, if you want to know the rules we live by.

-- Mr Noodles (infinitecow...), November 4th, 2003 1:48 PM.

― bad jode (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 15 December 2003 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Scream

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 15 December 2003 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd invoke the 'no pics' rule, but that one's so, uh, appropriate somehow.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 15 December 2003 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post argh someone already did!!

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 15 December 2003 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

(i forgot the I, pleeze fix?)

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 15 December 2003 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

No, someone defixed it, it was the picture, for about a minute.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 15 December 2003 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Rrrr. The IRONY.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 15 December 2003 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

can we stop evoking my name. the only time i come on here is do to a search on doomie. yes, yes, i was a miserable fuck. yes, yes. its all there. but can we have a moratium on the 'doomie' thing. its getting kinda weird that i can be away for two weeks and realise that people have mentioned me everyday. o.k.? i mentioned to norman via email that i would like to post on here but its impossible for me. i realise that. hell, i don't care anymore. but for godsake please stop evoking doomie all the time like i was reagan from the goddamn exorcist.
-- doom-e (u...), December 15th, 2003.

just do the d**mie thing so its not searchable. hell, its the only thing that keep me coming back. the essential narcissist in me is very pleased. the lapsed catholic is not. sigh. duality of the soul. but finally can i say - I AM NOT CALUM. asses.

― doom-e, Monday, 15 December 2003 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Oi. Of course you're not. *I* miss you, and you don't get a woody for Sleeper.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 15 December 2003 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i miss you as well, suzy! and norman! but the thing is this - ilx is a private board which seemingly looks like it is not private. its impossible for me to post here! but am getting shit together - actually, believe or not, two weeks ago, i realised that i was pretty euphoric all the time (not relating to pure mdma) and well, fuck me, i think i realised that i'm no longer depressed (been three years of stark depression - oh but you wouldnt know it because i did not know it!)...

so hooray!

― doom-e, Monday, 15 December 2003 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

A quick note (before I go back to lunch):

Ned, you've made it well clear you don't like C all that much purely based on his posts but in all fairness you were gnawing the D***ie chew-toy long
after the fashion had passed, and even at his creepiest we never deleted *him*.

A bit of history, though -- this was back when ILX was on the greenspun machine and the current team of moderators did not exist. I think only DG had the ability to delete anything, if he even had that. So the situations aren't entirely comparable (as for gnawing on the chewtoy -- gee, I wonder why I would think that?).

Maybe Ned's behavior towards Calum and Doomie says more about Calum and Doomie than it does about Ned. Namely, that they are fucking
assholes that can even piss off the nicest, most rational guy in the room.

NA roolz OK.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 December 2003 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

uh, suzy, see post above for evidence of why i don't post here. momus is otm with regards to therapy:projection crisis. but fuck it, i'm sorting out my own shit, don't need ilx shit! will email you soon, suzy, been working on courage!

― doom-e, Monday, 15 December 2003 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn, we had the chance to title the thread SHOUT AT THE MODERATOR and we missed it! Or how about DON'T SHOOT ME I'M ONLY THE MODERATOR?

― Momus (Momus), Monday, 15 December 2003 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to really dislike doomie, but now he's one of my favourite posters. I used to get quite intensely annoyed by dadaismus' hijacking of threads on progressive music, but nevertheless, I wound up kind of liking the fellow, and I was sad when he fucked off, seemingly permanently (haha, my and dan's fault as well iirc) this one, though... I don't know, he's been pretty much consistent in his approach, which is to bait (and I saw a lot of what he posted on that thread as being his usual you-americans-are-dim-i-am-more-educated style baiting) and he is VERY good at baiting, I'll grant him that, and then get VERY personal and abusive when people call him on stuff he posts, plus, part of his baiting quite consistently seems to be to either skim-read, or more likely ignore what people actually said, and then project his interpretation of their views onto them, and argue in an often incredibly vituperative manner based on this. He has done this again and again and again. On top of that, he has posted outrageously libelous statements about people who disagree with him. Or people who he thinks disagree with him, it's quite ahrd to kltell sometimes. How nice it would be, Momus/Nick, to banish the concept of "Trolls" on internet boards and lists, but how much nicer, if one could actually banish the trolls themselves, or better still, if one could wave a magic wand, and have everybody ignore their baiting.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 15 December 2003 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

'ahrd to ktell' argh.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 15 December 2003 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

iirc ned had an example of his more venomous abusiveness saved, perhaps he wd care to post it here as an example of some context from the last 2 weeks?

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

So, is the parade over yet? Or do we have to wait until B*cky L*c*s and j*N W*ll**ms contributes to this thread too?

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

How nice it would be, Momus/Nick, to banish the concept of "Trolls" on internet boards and lists, but how much nicer, if one could actually banish the trolls themselves

No no no! That's like saying 'Better than getting rid of apartheid, let's get rid of all the black people!'

― Momus (Momus), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

It was a long time ago surely but enough parallels made my point relevant - plus I know you, so you know what I said was meant in the nicest way possible. Additionally I HATE getting all meta so when I do, pay attenshun. I've probably got a point and I try to put it as gently as possible.

Good news about the depression, P. Could say the same if I hadn't felt like I've been snipe-hunting all year re. work or if my feelings were clinical in nature. Other aspects are good but my dancing quota is unmet for this year, argh.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't say that DB!!!

(x-post - that's a straw man, and you know it.)

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

You will all dance for my amusement. *clapclap*

(honestly, this was an xpost with Suzy)

― Sultan Dan (Dan Perry), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

so would you be pissed, doom-e, if i went around randon threads and just posted yer name - just for laughs¿
in white type¿

― dyson (dyson), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh fucking hell my dancing is for EVERYONE's amusement.

Dyson, I am dyspleased.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I've probably got a point and I try to put it as gently as possible.

I am not necessarily disagreeing.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Momus, for a seemingly intelligent guy, you sure say a lot of stupid shit.

― NA (Nick A.), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

cheers, suzy. we shall go out soon. i've been write write writing. not all wound up about music journalism as i once was. i had a shot at something big and realised that i did not want it. ha ha. been hanging out with famous psychoanalysts kids (ha ha. nothing more strange and fucked up than doing that) and been in a blizzard of snow (wink wink) during glamorous parties that have had fuck all to do with music (relief relief).

nah i was not pissed but felt it odd that o.k. i've got my haterz on this board. my haterz drove me off the board. cool. its their board (ala some badfiftes biker flick) but JESUS why evoke the name? don't get it? anyways i am compulsive and should stop posting NOW!

(ps norman - cheers, as usual, yer a star)

― doom-e, Monday, 15 December 2003 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I think my current frame of mind is best explained by the fact that I've been listening to "Milkshake" by Kelis on endless repeat since 9:00 AM.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

that's not healthy

― dyson (dyson), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Momus, do you even know what the definition of "troll" is? (HINT: It is NOT "someone who disagrees with me".)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

JESUS why evoke the name? don't get it?

I think Suzy was the one who brought up your name...?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

This whole 'hata' meme is really all talked out. I've met too many little rich kids who call hata because you've identified rich asshole behaviour or entitlement attitudes which go hand in hand with 'others are not as entitled' always. It's Ovjectivism gone madder, I tells ye!

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

do a search on 'doomie' for the month of december.

'nuff said.

― doom-e, Monday, 15 December 2003 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I wanted to continue enjoying this thread on a superficial "haha look at people I know online argue over semantics" level, but Momus equating trolls with black people even as a rhetorical device is pissing me off way more than it should.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Just to make sure I have this straight, it is our responsibility to be aware of D****e by never saying his name so he doesn't give into his worst impulses, while C***m's left-leaning attitudes excuses everything about him. Thanks, I think I'll go back to work now.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

arrgh.

suzy. i've tried hard to hate you. i've tried hard to envy you. i just ended up loving your words. you are the first female writer that i've met in london and you are - a star.

o.k. being really compulsive here.

see? do you not see?

― doom-e, Monday, 15 December 2003 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

my impulses are defined by the group. but the group ethnics of ilx do not define me. the worst impulses could be considered the best and vice versa. i'm just sayin' if you don't want me around don' evoke doomie and i will fade!

― doom-e, Monday, 15 December 2003 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

(Dan, seriously, clumsy device BUT.)

Compulsive? WALKIES! ;-)

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I know what Momus is getting at (the implications of categorizing people, tr0ll=outcast), but that's a meta-discussion that maybe people don't want to get into on this thread.

I think Mr. C. could more accurately be called a spammer - I can't tell, though, 'cos his stuff gets deleted before I see it. Or maybe he's a k00k.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

..which illustrates that trolling seems to work in satisfying the troll all the time, like in this very instance.

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

..which is why trolls exist. Lack of attention, otherwise.

(HINT HINT)

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Trolls are going to exist in a "free" forum like this. That's life, I'm afraid.

If you don't want trolls, close the list and require registration upon entering ILXOR.

The choice is yours.

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

(Dan, seriously, clumsy device BUT.)

But nothing, unless of course you're prepared to say that black people deserved apartheid because of all of the shit they stirred up for the white people who swanned into their territory.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

err...o.k. outta here!

suzy will email you in the next few days. i'm booked until sunday! you, tess and i - need to go out! hooray!

c'ya.

love ya all ya troll hating loved up foo's...!

― griffin doome, Monday, 15 December 2003 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

(I'm assuming Momus's troll/apartheid statement was just him trolling to prove a point.... right?)

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Dunno, DB.

Of course I'm not, Dan. That would be just STUPID.

― suzy (suzy), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

if you don't want me around don' evoke d**mie
ha ha - so it's like the candy man or betelgeuse, then.

― dyson (dyson), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

hooray, someone picked up on obvious pop culture reference one!

― griffin doome, Monday, 15 December 2003 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

if i stand in front of my bathroom mirror and say your name 3 times will you magically appear and drive my roommates out of the apartment for me¿

― dyson (dyson), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

don't cross the streams, ray

― donut bitch (donut), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

...Or how about SHOUT ABOUT ANY OLD THING SO THE MODERATORS HAVE TO WADE THROUGH A LOT OF IRRELEVENT STUFF LOOKING FOR LEGIT COMPLAINTS, AND THUS HAVE NO TIME TO DELETE THE POSTS OF POSTERS WHO, WHILE JUST DOING WHAT POSTERS DO, HAVE BEEN DEFINED FOR SOME REASON AS UNTOUCHABLES?

― Momus (Momus), Monday, 15 December 2003 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Skipping 405 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

Q: What world city does ILX most resemble?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

"Wow, this board is great! We should delete it."

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Andrew nf, would you like to explain to teeny our current approach to moderating?

― felicity (felicity), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Andrew even around at the moment?

(Teeny, that pic has been changed to a link.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

(kephm, your post has been fixed.)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

"Wow, this board is great! We should delete it."

exactly!

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway - I think having a password to sign in and the following types should be removed instantly:

*Anyone who does not respect carefully set out PC rules. Therefore, anyone who - for instance - might suggest a Navy officer is in fact a repressed homosexual is labelled a homophobe and deleted instantly, because humour does not exist on ILX outside of carefully thought out, jovial remarks carefully edited and re-written to offend no one.

*Any male who expresses any sort of enjoyment of the opposite sex (note: in this weird PC landscape, guys who like guys are given overt sympathy and females are given free reign to talk about naked because that's what all feminism was about, right?)

*Everyone is homophobic and every guy must copulate with another male before going on ILX to prove otherwise. Homophobia is everywhere, in all our postees - liberal or otherwise. This is the most important rule.

*Pornography and all forms of nudity are evil. Women who pose without clothing are forced into it and hate it and want out.

*Sex in groups is only okay if the ever considerate Martin Skidmore is part of it, as he will make everyone feel good and even serve some freshly squeezed wine at token intervals.

*Trolls must be deleted instantly, as threads which are funny/ bizarre/ outright stupid are not part of place of any public forum.

Be interested in your comments people! As for me, I'm gonna head off for a bit - I got bored of this a long time ago now. I tried to stay on topic during the Saddam thread and before long I'm being branded a homophobe for saying something i never even fucking said ("arse bandit"?). I might pop in with some opinions later - but please, ILX, sort yourselves out. You're all boring me to tears tonight and seem obsessed with little old me which, usually, I would encourage and laugh about - but shouldn't you guys like - have a life or something to get on with? I'm really not all that exciting.

― C-Man (C-Man), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't be arsed to read 300 posts about moderation, but here's a solution. We move to a slashdot style karma and points based moderation system. You want to see how it works, got to http://www.slashdot.org/. I guess we ought to chip some more bits into the server though.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, now I see what you guys have been talking about.

― Momus (Momus), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Everyone does eventually.

― NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Much appreciated, Momus.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

(I'm sorry about responding to this, but isn't freshly-squeezed wine normally called "grape juice"?)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

you know, i think its totally great we all resolved our differences today. it shows that together, we can stay strong, hold tight, keep it locked. i love you guys, i think we can be proud of ourselves today, we made something work, i think now we can rest on our laurels, crack open a beer, and feel the voib

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Not if you live in Texas. Ha ha.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Everyone arguing pro and anti deletion should bear in mind that the people arguing on this thread constitute a small proportion of the total amount of people who post to ILX. I think I'd miss it. That being said I'm staying the fuck away from any threads along these lines. This has just gotten silly.

― Matt (Matt), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 23:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Look, Pashmina, I apologised for suggesting you made those deletions. With the present system there is no way to know who does such things unless they own up.

Actually, momus: http://ilx.wh3rd.net/adminlog.php

― Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Slashdot-style moderation is the path to madness and despair.

I have implemented some features whereby moderators are required to supply a Reason upon deleting or editing any posts. Copies of the original messages that are deleted/edited are kept in an archive for later review.

I'm wondering what the best method for picking new moderators will be. Personally I would like to have Dan and Mark S as 'chief' moderators (if they are willing to accept the position). I would then like to post a thread soliciting moderator nominations, and from those nominated we three could pick some balanced candidates. What do you think?

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

sounds good

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

All things in moderation.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Can I suggest separate mods / mod groups for ILE/ILM as these are more and more separate worlds? ILM should have its own Shout For... thread too.

(Has the give-a-reason functionality been added to ILM? It seems like a good idea.)

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

You should now notice an 'Admin Log' link at the bottom of every page. Use this link to keep us accountable.

Can I suggest separate mods / mod groups for ILE/ILM as these are more and more separate worlds?

This is already the case.

Has the give-a-reason functionality been added to ILM?

Yes, and every other board on ILX.

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

if the ever considerate Martin Skidmore is part of it, as he will make everyone feel good and even serve some freshly squeezed wine at token intervals

as a quick aside, Martin can ferment grapes into wine AS HE SQUEEZES THEM? I have heard that Martin has skills, but damn...

― webcrack (music=crack), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I've started a separate moderator thread on ILM -

This is the thread where you SING FOR THE MODERATOR!

So please post any ILM queries there, since the two boards are likely to have different mods from now on.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I have heard that Martin has skills, but damn...

Dude, did you miss the multiple orgasm thread? The guy's a magician.

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

and he can squeeze FRESH wine too!

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I am happy that Momus knows what we're talking about and that Andrew and Tom have arrived at a course of action.

I would still think it fun to scrub the whole mess and start anew but then again I did nearly pass a referendum to dissolve the student government at my college my junior year. 48% of the vote! Fratboy motherfuckers. Anyway. Yeah.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm against scrubbing everything mainly because we have such a huge archive of interesting threads, and some hugely amusing google bait. It would be a huge shame to throw that away.

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

This is the point in the thread where I stop boggling at Andrew's earlier post and accept the offer to be a chief moderator, assuming of course that me doing so won't spawn another 500 post meta thread.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

the catch is you have to change your name to Titsiana Booberini

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm glad, Dan. Thanks.

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost Jim is correct.

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

It just gets better and better!

― Titsiana Booberini (Dan Perry), Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Perhaps we could do as Tom suggested and just blow it away for a month or some set period starting in January, start fresh for the new year, and move Old-ILE to another board or bring it all back online after a little bit of repopulating? I am just jonesing to load up New Answers and see a lot of white space I think.

― TOMBOT, Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

The Slashdot system is fascinating. Three day, machine-picked moderators who rate every comment, multiple read levels according to how much filtering you want, a karma system, instant rating of every single post... Admirable as a piece of 'government as software design'. But the effect is not attractive. It makes me really anxious that people think they can know a post is 'funny', 'interesting' or 'flamebait', and duck the 'weak' posts out of sight, like species on their way to extinction. I think our style is better. Here, even the silliest, most irrelevant posts can lead to intelligent debate. Things develop in unexpected ways. Everyone is on the same narrative line. It's less like 3D chess.

Ironically, although it successfully avoids a caste system in which moderators are distingished from average posters, it replaces it with a different caste system in which every single post is assigned a class, and some of them are made invisible to most readers.

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 18 December 2003 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

('It' in the last para being the Slashdot system.)

― Momus (Momus), Thursday, 18 December 2003 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

The irony (OK I'm not sure if it is irony) of Slashdot is that despite their highly regimented efforts to keep their own community readable they still have the ability to crash or utterly slow up any small site when it comes to their attention.

I wonder how many hits a link at the top of a popular ILX thread generates.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 18 December 2003 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh I just thought of something! And Andrew seems to be in coding mood so I'll mention it -

User-defined linkbars, as in: the bit in the top right which has ilm or ile depending on where you are. Could you make it so registered users could alter it to link to any other chosen board on ilxor.com? Or would that slow things up hugely/be too difficult/be a bad idea?

(I know I used to be the #1 opponent of spinoff boards, this is something else ive changed my mind on totally lately)

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 18 December 2003 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

that is an excellent idea.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 18 December 2003 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Tico: Not huge or too difficult, I'll put it on the list.

Momus:

It makes me really anxious that people think they can know a post is 'funny', 'interesting' or 'flamebait', and duck the 'weak' posts out of sight, like species on their way to extinction

I posted to Slashdot intensively for a few years, and witnessed it turn itself into a pile of garbage as a direct result of their moderation system. Anything actually funny (read: challenging) is modded into oblivion and out of sight, while those repeating what people like to hear are modded up to +5 Interesting/Funny/Insightful. If you like, I can demonstrate the stupidity of the system by making a post to any recent article and having it moderated to +5 within minutes. All it takes is a bit of calcuated social engineering.

A much more interesting community akin to Slashdot is Kuro5hin. The front page articles are all user-submitted and user-moderated. You also might be interested in Everything2 which is somewhat related to this discussion.

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 18 December 2003 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

(I can't do any coding right now as I'm at work. I was seriously abusing my employer's time by doing the brief coding I did this morning.)

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 18 December 2003 01:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Tico: Just putting a picture in the "what do you look like" threads gets less than 1000 hits per month; I'm sure a link would get far, far fewer than that. I mean, I reckon the BBC never even noticed what we with poor Patsy.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 18 December 2003 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't you already add any link you want to your page? I've seen this option in the settings page but never used it; does it work?

― teeny (teeny), Thursday, 18 December 2003 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

This is the stupidest thing I have ever read.

― Kim (Kim), Thursday, 18 December 2003 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

1) To answer Kate's question of who WAS a moderator:
At the start of the month it was: DG, SeanC, Dan Perry, Ned, Mr Noodles, gareth, Felicity, nickdastoor, dubplatestyle, mark p, jel, Jody Beth Rosen, Martin Skidmore, Andrew Thames, pashima, tracerhand, tracerhand, Nicole and "thatgirl". Some were only able to categorize threads.

2)i think I have quite sensibly been removed from the list of super moderators. hurrah, but in a spare minute could someone with the power restore me as mod/creator of the HTML playground board (like it actually needs one)
That reminds me. META tags are now banned.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 18 December 2003 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Gee, all the mods got 'tarded all the sudden!

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 18 December 2003 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't we just move this whole thing to IRC?

― may pang (maypang), Thursday, 18 December 2003 04:16 (twenty-one years ago)

/kick may pang #Shout_For_The_Moderator

― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 18 December 2003 04:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Now this thing is a bit more wieldy.

― pete s, Thursday, 18 December 2003 04:19 (twenty-one years ago)

/msg bnw screw u!

― may pang (maypang), Thursday, 18 December 2003 04:20 (twenty-one years ago)

SHOUT FOR THE MODERATOR VIII

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 18 December 2003 04:22 (twenty-one years ago)

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