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Badly! I mean, I dunno, this all sounds pretty lame to me, so I figure the assumption that BushCo's waiting on a clearer sense of who they want to target before doing a better job of it is accurate.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

"Don't change horses in the middle of the stream."

Jon Williams in brrrrrrrrrrrRochester! (ex machina), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 01:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, Rod Paige calls the NEA teachers' union "terrorists." Gonna be a fun year.

hstencil, Tuesday, 24 February 2004 01:05 (twenty-two years ago)

"keep our enemies on the run and extend the frontiers of liberty"

Hooray for empire.

Leee Majors (Leee), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 01:05 (twenty-two years ago)

"It's a choice between an America that leads the world with strength and confidence - or an America that is uncertain in the face of danger."

the day america leads the world is the day i leave the world.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 01:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Even his supporters must be thinking he's overdone the loaded dichotomy thing by now.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)

"keep our enemies on the run...

Yes, W, last time I checked our enemy Osama is in fact STILL on the run. Be a good boy and catch him for us, huh?

Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 01:13 (twenty-two years ago)

That would be no fun.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 01:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Osama will be on the run untill somewhere between the 20th and 30th of october this year.

Ed (dali), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 01:15 (twenty-two years ago)

When he makes a surprise run as the Green Party candidate!

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 01:19 (twenty-two years ago)

OSAMA OCTOBER SURPRISE!

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 01:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Voters will decide "between two visions of government - one that encourages enterprise and one that raises taxes".

Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but isn't the NAFTA/offshore jobs issue being raised into public consciousness enough that Republicans talking about "encouraging enterprise" isn't going to sound the way they want it to?

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 01:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Nah, back in November I predicted he'd show up 3/15.

Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 01:26 (twenty-two years ago)

The Osama October Surprise is possible. After all, the Bushes created the last one. However, it's also a neat way to make the Democrats stop saying "look, he hasn't found Osama yet."

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 02:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Arguing that is a pretty bad tactic on their part anyway.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 02:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Bush should totally dress up as Osama.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the Democrats should find their own Osama, and then we can have a Great Osama Schism and people can vote for whichever party they think caught the real Osama.

We can even have the two Osamas debate. Or make it a tag team with Bush and whomever ends up representing the Democrats. Like Bush + Republican Osama vs. Kerry + Democrat Osama FITE!

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Bushama would totally chicken out of a live TV debate.

N. (nickdastoor), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 02:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Argh.... somehow the beginning of my sentence got lopped off. My post should start "If the Republicans bring Osama out in October, I think..."

(xpost with N - Indeed, but it would still be genius to have the candidates debate with a crazed-looking Osama standing beside each of them them.)

martin m. (mushrush), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 02:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Bush should totally dress up as Osama.

Bush should totally hang out with Osama.

Hunter (Hunter), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 02:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Bush should totally hang out with Osama.

< tin foil hat>

why not, he hung out with his family! and i bet osama's more fun than jerry falwell.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 02:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Bush-Bath-BinLaden-BCCI

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 03:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh la la, this is just screaming for Instahack or LGF to link and go "Look at these three posts I found somewhere on the Internet! Democrats - like all of them - hate Bush more than they hate Osama and this proves it!" What's wrong with all y'all, haven't you been delivered from evil and Hannitized for your own safety?

;) Seriously, I just heard a Bush soundbite on NPR saying Democrats were for and against the Iraq war, the Patriot Act, No Child, and so on.. "and that's just one senator from Massachusetts." Everybody laughs. Another George W Bush joke that's not really a joke, but wow, is his audience well trained to laugh on cue.

daria g (daria g), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 03:10 (twenty-two years ago)

look at the form of terror attack contemplated in that article. then look at the date.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

We can even have the two Osamas debate. Or make it a tag team with Bush and whomever ends up representing the Democrats. Like Bush + Republican Osama vs. Kerry + Democrat Osama FITE!

This is like when the WWF had the Two Hebners(Earl & his Twin Brother Dave)

Kingfish Beatbox (Kingfish), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)

a WaPo piece about Bush attacking Democrats thru surrogates, in a similar way that he did to McCain...

Kingfish Beatbox (Kingfish), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 17:38 (twenty-two years ago)

``The other party's nomination battle is still playing out. The candidates are an interesting group with diverse opinions,'' Bush said. ``They're for tax cuts and against them. They're for NAFTA and against NAFTA. They're for the Patriot Act and against the Patriot Act. They're in favor of liberating Iraq, and opposed to it. And that's just one senator from Massachusetts.''

i actually think that's a pretty good criticism of kerry. he voted to support all those things - nafta, the patriot act, attacking iraq - and now he's running on a platform that says they were all weaknesses/errors of the bush administration. his voting record, honestly, is dismal. why he'll get the nomination is really beyond my understanding.

j c (j c), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

David Kusnet, former chief speechwriter to President Clinton, liked it.

That joke about Kerry was great.

Stuart (Stuart), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Bush gives up Deke; joins Stuart in Lambda Lambda Lambda.

Once again, John Dingell writes the best letter ever. (click on the 2-20 letter at right for pdf)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Xgau weighs in (Goldstein, too). I dunno yet. I lean Kerry, but have no strong belief about comparative electability (pretty much my only criterion). But I'm leaning towards voting against Kerry (whether Edwards or Dean) on Super Tuesday to prolong the process and better road-test him.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

That joke about Kerry wasn't funny! I mean, it was totally obvious. It's great that The New Republican approves, I suspected they would..

Oh well. I await Kerry's reponse - not that the Repubs will listen - but it seems entirely sensible to me to have supported No Child when the bill was supposed to be fully funded, and advocate fixing it now that Bush has seriously neglected to provide federal funds. Support tax cuts for the middle class, against tax cuts for those who make over $200,000/year. Support using the IWR to get inspectors into Iraq, against rushing to war with no allies and no plan. I don't find this too hard to understand, actually.

daria g (daria g), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

That Dingell letter made my day.

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't find this too hard to understand, actually.
Republicans are unable to consider two opposing viewpoint simultaneously. It may be because they don't like to be bothered with details. Or it could be that they're fucking assholes.

dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

look at the form of terror attack contemplated in that article. then look at the date.

Yeah, and back then, people were laughing and going, "oh that wacky Osama!"

Kerry (dymaxia), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 21:28 (twenty-two years ago)

However, it's also a neat way to make the Democrats stop saying "look, he hasn't found Osama yet."

I wasn't clear about this - it's not the Surprise itself that ends the argument, but the threat of the surprise.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)

This stuff

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 01:45 (twenty-two years ago)

(Tenet to Bush: "I don't have to be re-elected to my job, so eat shit junior.")

Most worrying, Mr. Tenet said, the radical anti-American sentiments and destructive expertise used by Al Qaeda have spread to other Sunni Muslim extremists who are behind a "next wave" of terrorism that will endure "for the foreseeable future with or without Al Qaeda in the picture."

"People who say that this is exaggerated don't look at the same world that I look at," Mr. Tenet told the Senate Intelligence Committee as he presented a stark annual report on the threats that face the United States around the world. The broader terrorist threat, he said, "is not going away any time soon."

In his State of the Union address last month, President Bush described the world as having become "a better and safer place," since American forces overthrew Mr. Hussein last year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/25/national/25INTE.html

earlnash, Wednesday, 25 February 2004 03:31 (twenty-two years ago)

the mythical arab street.

keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 05:03 (twenty-two years ago)

21 Arab Street, starring...

donut bitch (donut), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 05:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Republicans who have become inoperative, a partial list:
George Tenet
John McCain
Trent Lott
Dick Armey
Tom Delay? (to be determined)
Orrin Hatch
Roy Moore
Pat Buchanan
anyone from California who is not of Austrian descent
Paul O'Neill
Bill O'Reilly
Lou Dobbs
Don Imus
Howard Stern
Nancy Reagan and her children
Barbara Bush, Yale student

But hey, who needs those guys when you have Ed Koch and Zell Miller?!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 05:31 (twenty-two years ago)

oh duh, David Kay

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 05:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Howard Stern finally came out against the guy?

Kingfish Beatbox (Kingfish), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 05:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, I'm surprised at the NYT times, coming a couple days after the Wash Post series on CIA failings in the late 90s/early 00s. There is some kind of massive fight going on between the White House and Tenet on this. and the CIA ain't nothin to fuck wit'..

daria g (daria g), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 07:08 (twenty-two years ago)

the C-I-A ain't nothin to fuck wit'
the C-I-A ain't nothin to fuck wit'
the C-I-A ain't nothin to fuck wit'
the C-I-A ain't nothin to FUCK WIT'

great. now this is in my head. only that song from the Quiznos ad will be able to dislodge it.

Kingfish Beatbox (Kingfish), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

"Don't change horses in the middle of the stream."

Alternate from blogland-

"DON'T CHANGE HORSEMEN MID APOCALYPSE!"

Hunter (Hunter), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Add a soldier in Iraq: "I was a Republican ..."

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

ccording to Steve Robinson, from the National Gulf War Resource
Center:

"Information warfare is a tenet of war. It's part of the strategy
in war and it's something we employ in Iraq to win to gain the
hearts and minds of the Iraqi people. And in some cases it
looks as if the Department of Defense is employing information
warfare back doing this at home by not releasing accurate
information or making it difficult to obtain information. That
prevents the story from being told or it makes it take longer
for the story to be told or it frustrates people to where they
don't even try to tell the story."

Steve Robinson is no anti-war liberal. A former Special Forces soldier
with 20 years' service, he now briefs Presidents. He believes we're not
being told the full story.

"People don't want bad news stories coming out from this war
and at every level where I need information, every time I need
information from the Department of Defense or the Department
of Veterans' Affairs, about the injuries of this war, I run unto
obstacles. None of this is national security. None of this will
cause the collapse of the coalition. It's just information that we
need to understand what's happening."

Wise words...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

fun from Urban Outfitters:

http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/images/us/local/products/productsall/p86353b.jpg

Kingfish Beatbox (Kingfish), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

meanwhile, Hastert would bring up legislation to extend the 9/11 investigative panel

Kingfish Beatbox (Kingfish), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

the C-I-A ain't nothin to fuck wit'
great. now this is in my head.

I KNOW. Ever since I thought of it I can't get it out of my head every time I run into a reference to the CIA. So I had to put that out there.. Plus, it's true.

daria g (daria g), Thursday, 26 February 2004 03:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think I buy that this is a cause, but I still love it as an effect.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

(as the distinguished Instahack is fond of saying, "read the whole thing")

gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 26 February 2004 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Mark Kleiman brings us noted right-leaning bloggers turning on Bush, at least on a single issue (I imagine Nancy Reagan is a single-issue voter, though). (He thinks that this is evidence of the bloggers' reasonableness. I note that the offering from the exemplar is not free of his patented token tasteless remark.)

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow. How can he hate America so much?

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I just love shit like this. Absolutely love it. Because what do the defenders say now? What CAN they say? How much of this can they dismiss as 'crank whining' or whatever?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Tom Delay? (to be determined)

Confirmation!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)

The end of Clinton is really a great thing. Only now are we starting escape from under Monica and 9/11 and wake up to the fact that the vast majority of Americans want nothing to do with Republicans.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)

The DeLay thing almost sounds like cutting of losses. But whose and where?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)

ah luhv me my Tivo

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 22:14 (twenty-two years ago)

"I like being out of office ... I get to talk to people the way they talked to me for 30 years," he said. "It's a hoot."

Brilliant.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 22:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, you can read the DeLay thing as just triangulation. Or a push for the Republican Senatorial campaign committee.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)

The Risks of Waging 'Culture War'

Kingfish Cowboy (Kingfish), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Or a push for the Republican Senatorial campaign committee.

um, I meant the House. right.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think so. The language in the DeLay piece was too strong - it's that the base is really, really unhappy with Bush and the more signs showing that he's likely to go out in November.. well, I can't imagine that Dubya is the type to hang around after such a defeat to do party-building work and such afterward - he'll be out of politics, I'd bet. What's in it for DeLay to stick with him to the end?

I did a wingnut radio check tonight and a caller to the Laura Ingraham show was complaining that she and Sean Hannity were being really hard on Bush. It was crazy.

You know, sometimes when I'm in a bad mood I try to imagine what it'll be like if he does lose this November. There will be this huge gigantic celebration all over the world. The Fox News Republicans will be all, whine whine whine, the French are happy that the Democrats have won, and Kerry will be like, JE VOUS EMMERDE TOUS !

daria g (daria g), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 06:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Some dongboxer on the National Review website is trying to start a deadly cold-ass dis/meme that Kerry is "French-looking". Apparently it is some sort of feeble revenge for all those Hail to the Chimp references.

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 06:15 (twenty-two years ago)

the line "THAT'S what happens when you don't 'Hail to the Chimp!'" NEVER fails to entertain me.

Kingfish Cowboy (Kingfish), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.punkvoter.com

an organization founded by fat mike of NOFX, definitely worth checking out.

metfigga (metfigga), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Have you seen...

www.conservativepunk.com ?

Which doesn't look at all like it was designed by punks.

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Their fondness for tan and navy blue gives them away.

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Graves isn't the misfits lead anymore?

dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 17:53 (twenty-two years ago)

haw haw haw ... such dissension couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of cockroaches

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

How many actual punk rockers do they actually have on board as supporting that conservative punk thing? Who do they have, really? The former lead singer of the (fake) Misfits?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh my god. I always thought Chicago punk in the eighties was shit. Why am I not surprised?

When John Kezdy fronted the influential Chicago band the Effigies in the early 1980s, it was taken for granted in most quarters that the politics of punk were left.
"Punk rock attracted kids who tended to think more about music," says Mr. Kezdy, 45, now a prosecutor and a member of the Federalist Society in Illinois. "So you would think that they would also put thought into their politics. And if they thought about it more, there is nothing punk rock about voting for a party that wants to put more government in your life."

Another shitty site - this one from a graphic artist!

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember seeing punk and hardcore bands in the eighties and thinking, 'this is so conservative'. Well guess what?? It WAS!

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

The Federalist Society is just so punk rock. Sorry - having a bad flashback to the eighties and my insufferable punk 'friends'.

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

true story: me at a campus bar informing the heads of my l-school's federalist society who Jello Biafra is (b/c he was talking about running for the green party's presidential nomination in 2000) and who GG Allin was (don't ask).

federalists = bad.

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)

if the wingnuts are looking for punk-cred, i wonder what johnny ramone and lee ving are up to these days ...

Eisbär (llamasfur), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:56 (twenty-two years ago)

GG Allin: threw shit at audience

Republicans/Federalists/Right Wingers: throw shit politics at American people

Cheap shot, but fun.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

McCain is co-Chairman of the Bush-Cheney '04 Arizona Leadership Team

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, mccain ain't jumping ship, and he sure as hell ain't doing it for a vp slot.

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:19 (twenty-two years ago)

HAHAHA - so i got spam asking to take a donald wildmon sponsered poll presumably from when i took a previous one about gay marriage or partial birth abortion or something i don't know. i remember the results didn't come out how wildmon woulda liked. anyhow.

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I took that poll last night.

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh - that link doesn't work. Kerry was beating the crap outta Bush by a mile. When I voted, Bush had 3% or something. I think Wildmon's people don't have internet.

Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:51 (twenty-two years ago)

oops - yeah kerry's blowin bush away - i think bush is only up to 6% now. if the general election results even remotely resembled that we'd be looking at mass suicides on the republican side.

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Boy, the next 8 months are going to be something.

Stuart (Stuart), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

i luv this country!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

that really bums me out about John Kezdy.

hstencil, Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Boy, the next 8 months are going to be something.

the only question is whether or not we can make Bush cry

gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Pervert Your Own "Bush/Cheney '04" Sign!

Kingfish Cowboy (Kingfish), Wednesday, 10 March 2004 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

http://proxy.blogads.com/nzhmftjbtqsptqfdupsh/matthewyglesias/3130975/thumb?rev=rev_4

for lack of anywhere better to post it

Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 11 March 2004 03:19 (twenty-two years ago)

That looks like a panel from Mutts gone 3D

Nate in ST.P (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 March 2004 05:01 (twenty-two years ago)

``I think that John Kerry is a good and decent man. I think he has served his country. I think he has different points of view on different issues and he will have to explain his voting record. But this kind of rhetoric, I think, is not helpful in educating and helping the American people make a choice.''

Mr. McCain also defended Mr. Kerry in an appearance on NBC's "Today," saying in response to a question that he did not believe Mr. Kerry was "weak on defense."


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/03/18/politics/trail/18TRAIL-MCCAIN.html?ex=1080277200&en=bb74820c27de668a&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE

earlnash, Friday, 19 March 2004 01:23 (twenty-two years ago)

John McCain would be like the coolest politician ever if he wasn't, you know, a Republican.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 19 March 2004 03:20 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...
oops, he did it again

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 2 April 2004 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

McCain is co-Chairman of the Bush-Cheney '04 Arizona Leadership Team

I get it - he doesn't have to provide Bush/Cheney '04 Leadership if he's outside Arizona.

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 2 April 2004 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

And if they fire him, he can make it a 50-state campaign!

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 2 April 2004 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

JOHN MCCAIN/ZELL MILLER FITE!%

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 2 April 2004 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think that would be very humane

gabbneb (gabbneb), Friday, 2 April 2004 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...
I continue to be amazed

gabbneb (gabbneb), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)


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