― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)
― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)
― pleased to mitya (mitya), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)
― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)
pathetic dems are the party slaves who act like nominating Hillary Clinton for anything, ever, is a remotely defensible idea
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)
The only way I could imagine a Hillary presidential candidacy working out favorably is if she gets ganged-up on in the primaries -- but then, of course, Democrats divided with no central message OH NOES blah blah
― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)
I don't know any Democrats who don't vote.
I think we can only go so far in blaming our problems on Naderites, regardless of how annoying he was during the last two elections.
I suspect we may be closer to developing a central message than at any time in the past. I probably shouldn't be too hopeful. Please, God, don't let 2006 be the year of "We're not Republicans".
It's true, the Democrats' main concern is all the crazies on the left who have been screwing up the party. And by the way, the crazies on the left are anybody who thinks that maybe "moderate centrist" is not actually an articulate position.
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)
So essentially you've got a framework of people who want to just win one of these years, to hell with liberal principles and opposing the ruling majority, versus the vast majority of their prospective voters, who are thinking "if you would stop bitching about violence in Grand Theft Auto and call these LIARS, ALL OF YOU, LIARS AND MURDERERS AND WAR PROFITEERS, out on their fucking bullshit that's destroying this country, you could win, but don't blame me after you nominate another indefensible, waffling bore."
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)
― pleased to mitya (mitya), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)
to here:All in all, I was -- I am, and I guess I remain -- the worthy object of ignorant, false and downright idiotic vituperation.
then here:This spells trouble -- not for Bush or, in 2008, the next GOP presidential candidate, but for Democrats.
― erklie (erklie), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)
And Tom, I was being a prick with all the antagonizing last week, I admit.
― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)
the differentiation is only clear on about one issue in this country anymore.
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)
― pleased to mitya (mitya), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.third-way.com/
radical new hairdos!
― scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)
In a perfect world this would be the truest sentence ever spoken.
― Dan (Context Shmontext) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)
Upthread, erklie extrapolated what is probably the most pertainant quote from Cohen's article: "Truth to tell, I peeked into only a few of the e-mails."
The general consensus of most established media types is that the internet is a pandoras box of wild barbarians and dangerous lunatics. Cohen is going to believe this no matter how articulate and reasonable his critics are. All you need is a few foul-mouthed fire breathing e-mails and the concensus is maintained.
This is going to go on for years while we adjust to the fact that everybody can now be a writer, editor and publisher. It's really easy to go from that immediate reaction of "Fuck you!" to "You've got mail".
In the meantime, fools like Cohen get to dismiss their critics, smugly confident in their superiority.
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)
The e-mails pulse in my queue, emanating raw hatred. This spells trouble -- not for Bush or, in 2008, the next GOP presidential candidate, but for Democrats. The anger festering on the Democratic left will be taken out on the Democratic middle.
Left? Middle? Whatever. But the real knee slapper is that somehow the leadership, the powerbrokers and the messengers are not responsible for wins and losses. It's the internet. It's the public. It's me and you. And we're CRAZY.
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)
― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)
― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)
fucking otmotherfucking$$$$$$$
they look real wounded when they come around soliciting campaign funds and you say "dude, you're running John Kerry - even the people who vote for him don't like him! of COURSE I'm not gonna give you any money, come back when you've located your testicles"
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)
― J (Jay), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)
this is pretty true, I think. talking about them only magnifies their perceived "power" or "relevance" (for ex. I had never even heard of Cohen prior to this)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)
me too, mostly because i'm not willing to take his word for it that he has 3,000 messages of hateful bile. my guess is that there are a lot of good, articulate well-thought-out comments in there, but he's not interested in those so he scans through until he finds someone using a dirty word or calling him a lapdog, and he says "SEE?"
otoh, of all the possible political gestures in the world, writing emails to richard cohen ranks somewhere well below dressing up as a banana and protesting chiquita's labor practices. at least the banana suit might get you in the local paper.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)
― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)
― pleased to mitya (mitya), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)
Just had to re-chuckle.
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)
― Colin Meeder (Mert), Friday, 12 May 2006 07:15 (nineteen years ago)
― Dan (Awesome) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 12 May 2006 10:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)
No, just about 50.2%. The right is simply very vocal.I'm very much appreciative of the fact that gas prices have made it cool again to talk openly in the office about what a stupid evil douchebag we have in the White House. Whatever it takes, people.
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 12 May 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)
Of course, Tom is right about gas prices, which are going up no matter what, which makes my eyeballs hemmorrage.
That's why I say 4 more years: I want people to understand, fully, that it's not about gas prices.
Related: standing out by smokers corner not too long ago, dude mentions New Orleans/Katrina, and this woman just rolled her eyes.
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)
― pleased to mitya (mitya), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)
― scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)
And then I return to my mansion and Audrey Tautou and Franka Potente feed me strawberries.
Dan, I'd like to comission a poem.
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Friday, 12 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)
I think we need a moderate Republican as president more than a Democrat; I don't know what a Democrat is these days (it's partly why I left the party). Trouble is, there ain't many moderate Republicans around, not w/the likes of Sensenbrenner, George Allen, and Frist prowling the countrside.
In short, we need a Benjamin Harrison.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)
-- Fluffy Bear (el.jeffe.bonanz...) (webmail), Today 11:03 AM. (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows) (later)
i was working at sears when katrina went down (my first american job - woo!) and those middle aged, mininum wage, bush loving bitches were whining and complaining (as loudly as possible - bye bye customers!) about how the victims have no right to whine and complain because THEY SHOULD HAVE KNOWN.
― sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 12 May 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)
I think there is a serious level of reality-denial in some people. Some of them just have no concept that Bad Things can happen to them, too. In my less-nice moments, I wish Bad Things on those people...
― Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)
― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)
-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (soto.alfre...), May 12th, 2006 12:17 PM. (Alfred Soto) (link)
Yes, we need an uninspiring Republican president who's (grand)father previously held the office, who will lose the popular vote but win in a narrow electoral college victory, and who will leave a once abundant treasury depleted after he leaves office.
Yes, where can we get one of those?
OK, but other than the Sherman Anti-trust Act, what's he got going for him? He wasn't malignant?
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)
― elmo argonaut (allocryptic), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)
GEORGE W BUSH IN '08!
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 12 May 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)
Hmmm, couldn't we run Herbert Hoover? (Or hey, how about Calvin Coolidge. He was famously silent and maybe then people would learn to spell that part of my name correctly).
― Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)
Was Stephen Colbert funny?
― o. nate (onate), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)
Best typo ever?
― Dan (Paging Dr Freud!) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 12 May 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)
LOL, I just had a funny flash of the era in college when my mother thought I was a lesbian. (Her timeless question, "do lesbians have periods?" dates from this era.)
― Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Dan (Parents Say The Darnedest Things) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)
'Cuz most all y'all have no idea how much fun that would be.
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)
(Fluffy Bear, who else but me would post on that thread?!)
― Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)
― Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)
― Fluffy Bear (KEKEKEKEKEKE) (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)
― Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 12 May 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)
― Dan (I Love Hastings(?)) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)
― Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)
― Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)
― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)
― Sara Robinson-Coolidge (Sara R-C), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)
― Fluffy Bear (Fluffy Bear Hearts Rainbows), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)
Sullivan wonders a bit about Mr. Cohen.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 February 2012 16:47 (fourteen years ago)
That was a stupid Cohen column
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 16 February 2012 17:12 (fourteen years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRw8zvgWUAA8QEK.pnghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CRw8zv8WwAAC3-y.png
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/in-defense-of-tipping/2015/10/19/16f1cd36-768c-11e5-a958-d889faf561dc_story.html
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 14:37 (ten years ago)
So many bad Cohen columns. I blame the Washington Post's editorial page editor who loves neo-con knuckleheads like Cohen writing for him.
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 17:53 (ten years ago)
the op-ed page is a rogues gallery of thugs and war profiteers
This guy also a regular contributor:
http://ooyala.fairfax.tv.edgesuite.net/M0dWN4NTqF6V6hXrJb_UCYvxp_ZPU_ow/dC9YmUV2gYCgMiZn5hMDoxOjBzMTu354
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 18:06 (ten years ago)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DbALxp2XkAAAAJ8.jpg
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 17 April 2018 20:21 (seven years ago)
They hired a qualified woman for a job, even though he wanted it. So unfair.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 20:37 (seven years ago)
"It took everything I had, but I remained cordial toward her for the length of our shared tenure at the company."
― thots and players (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 17 April 2018 20:53 (seven years ago)
cohen out
https://www.washingtonian.com/2019/09/23/richard-cohen-leaves-the-washington-post
― mookieproof, Monday, 23 September 2019 20:36 (six years ago)
inability to simply disagree with people anymore on politics
which future alt-right guy used to post as "mitya"
― mh, Monday, 23 September 2019 21:17 (six years ago)