do any black people like dave mathews band?

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― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Friday, 27 December 2002 06:32 (twenty-two years ago)

do band members count?

― Josh (Josh), Friday, 27 December 2002 06:50 (twenty-two years ago)

you obviously havent seen that VH-1 show where they follow around the fans of a band, one of them being African-American.

― jack cole (jackcole), Friday, 27 December 2002 06:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Obviously.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Friday, 27 December 2002 06:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I LOVE YOU !

― Sterland R Charles, Friday, 27 December 2002 08:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Why would anyone of any colour like the Dave Matthews Bland?

― Callum (Callum), Friday, 27 December 2002 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Callum: THAT IS THE CORRECT ANSWER. (*SINGS 'WE SHALL OVERCOME'*)

― Jonathan Williams (ex machina), Friday, 27 December 2002 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

My black girlfriend (well, she's not really my girlfriend, but I'm hopeful) brought up Dave Matthews Band and said she liked them a little. She asked me if I liked them and I said I really hadn't heard them but that I was prejudiced against them (mostly thanks to ILM, incidentally). This is the same one who thinks Bobby Brown is hip hop, but Public Enemy is not, however.

I just heard one of their songs on the radio a couple weeks back and thought it was okay, certainly not the horror they are made out to be here, but nothing I would seek out either.

― Rockist Scientist, Friday, 27 December 2002 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to like them. I think that their first two records were very interesting, but now I could care less. I think that Matthews shot his creative load on those first two albums and has been treading water ever since. Plus, the bands fanbase was a lot cooler when no one knew who the hell they were. And yes, I'm Black.

― Brenya, Friday, 27 December 2002 15:26 (twenty-two years ago)

DMB strikes every now and then with a song or components of songs that I really like (the "Eat too much" song, the verses to "The Space Between Us", "Crash", the "I am no superman" song). Also, the snotty musician in me cuts them more slack because of the violinist-from-Juilliard angle (although that is offset a little bit since he looks like The Predator). Outside of that, they don't register on my radar.

I think it's a common thing that bands that are bland will draw more ire on ILM than bands that are actively awful. The only exceptions I can think of are Korn and Limp Bizkit.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 December 2002 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)

No, they are actively, unbelievably awful. If only for Dave Matthews' vocals which, I swear, sound like Adam Sandler! The way they both hit those high notes like Tim Allen belching or somethin' and then come back down to growl every once in a while -- ugh!

The rest of the band blows too, but yes, in a somewhat indiscriminate way. Jazz for guys in frats, maybe? Whatever; may they all suffer sudden, instant, and even immediate DEATH.

― original bgm, Friday, 27 December 2002 16:16 (twenty-two years ago)

There are many things I'd criticize DMB for (building their career on slight permutations of three different songs, unimaginative use of the violin, removing all danceability from their music ina quest to appeal to the segment of the adult-contemporary crowd that used to listen to them when they were still a college party band), but Dave's singing isn't one of them. Well, okay, his diction is horrible, but show me a pop musician who isn't a "singer" (ie, someone who isn't an instrumentalist first) who doesn't have horrible diction. Also, the Adam Sandler comparison is apt but I don't actively dislike Adam's voice, either (and he sounds great on that track where he's aping Tony Bennett).

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 December 2002 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway, the idea that there could be any band that has NO black listeners or NO white listeners (etc.) is silly.

― Rockist Scientist, Friday, 27 December 2002 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

My friend is a band, it has one fan, I'm white. Therefore, no black fans.

― Obtuba, Friday, 27 December 2002 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I bet Iron Cross doesn't have any black fans.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 27 December 2002 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Okay, I should have qualified that statement a little.

― Rockist Scientist, Friday, 27 December 2002 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I bet Jay-Z doesn't have any white fans!

― AdamST (amateurist), Friday, 27 December 2002 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I find thee basick question being asked here rather dodgy. I am not aware that one's ethnicity has any bearing on whether thee musick one likes is any good or not. If thee original intent ov thee question is something like "dave matthews band is shit, as proven by thee fakt that black people allegedly don't like them", then that really is very dodgy indeed IMO. I myself have never heard thee Dave Matthews Band.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 27 December 2002 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Spelling 'the' with two ee's and adding a k onto words that end with c is not kool.

― Callum (Callum), Friday, 27 December 2002 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, the Adam Sandler comparison is apt but I don't actively dislike Adam's voice

Oh, but I do! And I still stand by my hatred of DM's voice. I mean, I wouldn't know if whatever he's doing is technically good or bad. But it makes me cringe, dammit.

― original bgm, Friday, 27 December 2002 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Spelling 'the' with two ee's and adding a k onto words that end with c is not kool.

That's a matter ov complete indifference to me. k3wl = f3wl.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 28 December 2002 01:44 (twenty-two years ago)

i just find dave mathews' music bland. and i'm whiter than he is.

― Tad (llamasfur), Saturday, 28 December 2002 01:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I've never heard them. After reading thee above thread, I rather doubt that i'm going to go out ov my way to do so in phuture either.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 28 December 2002 02:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't know one could type with an accent. A very, very annoying one at that.

On the VH1 Episode... you'll note that the black girl's friends all hated DMB and made fun of her for it, and when she drove around town playing it, people actively told her they disliked the music.

Personally, I totally don't understand the bands appeal. Crash was kindof catchy... that's about it. And with all the different instruments they've got going, you'd think they'd change it up a bit, all their songs are really same-y.

― David Allen, Saturday, 28 December 2002 02:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I was looking through my cousin's mp3s over Christmas and he really likes Dave Matthews Band. His drive was about half full of show bootlegs, actually. The other half was all Roots, Nappy Roots, and the Vanilla Sky soundtrack, so I was thinking maybe the Dave Matthews thing was his girlfriend's influence -- but you don't end up with like 5 gigs of Dave Matthews Band bootlegs just because your girlfriend likes him. Not unless she's really, really good in bed. So by this thread's count at least six black people like Dave Matthews Band. (That's counting the two black people who are in Dave Matthews Band; if either of them quit and publically claim that they never really liked the music they were playing I will revive this thread with a correction.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 28 December 2002 03:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Moving on: do any Hmong like El-P?

― nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 28 December 2002 03:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Inuits hate electro.

― bnw (bnw), Saturday, 28 December 2002 07:03 (twenty-two years ago)

The Yakut really like Yves Montand, Peaches not so much.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Saturday, 28 December 2002 08:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Filipinos like Puddle of Mud.

― Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 28 December 2002 10:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Haitians love Rondellus (Estonian band who re-arranged 12 Black Sabbath songs into Medieval arrangements. See Sabbatum album).

― dwh (dwh), Saturday, 28 December 2002 11:00 (twenty-two years ago)

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― chaki (chaki), Saturday, 28 December 2002 11:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't know one could type with an accent. A very, very annoying one at that.

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― Pashmina (Pashmina), Saturday, 28 December 2002 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

do any black people like dave mathews band?
Only those who have had the proper surgical alterations. The produre -- called a Full-frontal Lambadamy -- removes the part of their brains that give them 'nacheral riddims' and impairs their ability to dance. If done successfully, the pacified subject cabn not only groove to Dave Matthews (without a hint of irony), those truly (what is a word that means exactly the opposite of "gifted"?) can 'get down' to Blues Traveller and Matchbox 20. Some of the procedures most 'successful' examples include Colin Powell and the more pigmentally intense members of the Young Republicans. None of whom would know who Chuck D was even if Chuck came to their house wearing a "Hi! I'm Chuck D" t-shirt and introduced himself.

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Saturday, 28 December 2002 21:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Subthread: Dave Matthews vs Gil Scott Heron!
and
Subthread: John Popper vs Fat Albert!

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Saturday, 28 December 2002 21:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway, the idea that there could be any band that has NO black listeners or NO white listeners (etc.) is silly.
Yeah, Professor Griff loves Nazi Skinhead hardcore Oi bands! To death, I bet.

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Saturday, 28 December 2002 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)

A clarification: the part about "and impairs their ability to dance" is ambigious. I meant the procedure impairs their ability to dance, not the part of the brain.

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Saturday, 28 December 2002 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

WHY does it appear Morrissey is grabbing his balls in that picture?

― Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, 28 December 2002 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Because "himself" is the only person whos balls he could touch without having a restraining order slapped onto him.

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Sunday, 29 December 2002 00:08 (twenty-two years ago)

dhw -- fyi -- some peace-luvin' estonians do like angry samoans

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Sunday, 29 December 2002 01:05 (twenty-two years ago)

(SORRY; dwh !...)

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Sunday, 29 December 2002 01:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought only white, bleached/highlighted sorority girls liked Dave Matthews Band.

Actually, they don't put on a bad live show, but I liked Ben Harper (the opening act when I saw'em 6 or 7 years ago with my cousin Chuck's free 3rd row tickets) better.

― Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Sunday, 29 December 2002 02:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Is it just me, or does Dave Mathew's guitar sound like a plastic ukelele?

― William R Henderson (Cabin Essence), Sunday, 29 December 2002 04:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Is it just me or does Dave Mathew's guitar sound like a plastic ukelele?

― William R Henderson (Cabin Essence), Sunday, 29 December 2002 04:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Is that a criticism?

― Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 29 December 2002 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, it's a critisism alright.

― William R Henderson (Cabin Essence), Sunday, 29 December 2002 17:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't hear the words "Dave Matthews Band" without mentally applying a German accent. This stems from them being aggressively marketed to the people of Hamburg in 1995. The marketing worked - they're *huge* in Germany now.

Try it tho: Dafe Metthuse Bend...it might make their existence more tolerable.

ps. no, I think they're bloody awful.

― Charlie (Charlie), Sunday, 29 December 2002 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, but then I'd have no choice but to say
[SUTHUHN ACCENT] Ayn-shteer-ZEN-deeee Nee-yoo-BOTT-enn [/SUTHUHN ACCENT]

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Sunday, 29 December 2002 22:44 (twenty-two years ago)

(*fingers a-tremble, scribbles down memo: 'if wanna keep on & up with ilm, two more languages to be learned first thing in the morning! Alienese and Foreignese!'*)

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Monday, 30 December 2002 00:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw them live a few years back myself and they were quite gay. I liked them in college only because the chicks dug them.

― Chris V. (Chris V), Monday, 30 December 2002 12:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave Matthews appears singing on a duet called Iwoya on Black Ivory Soul, the latest album by Angelique Kidjo. It's an initially off-putting but strangely more-ish combination. The most unlikely combination of voices you can imagine (OK, maybe you can imagine a more unlikely combination but that would be a new thread). The song has some awful words e.g. "You don't have to be old to be wise, can you hear the baby crying". She should have got him to sing in Fon.