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A cheapie threefer on "Decadance Records":
"hip hop 24/7 represents the true hip hop sound from past to present..."

CD1:
i. Dr.Dre "F**k wit Dre Day (and Everybody's Celebratin')"
ii. 2pac: "California Love"
iii. Snoop Doggy Dogg: "Gin & Juice"
iv. Dr.Dre & Ice Cube: "Natural Born Killaz"
v. Warren G & Nate Dogg: "Regulate"
vi. Genius f. D'Angelo, Inspectah Deck & Streetlife: "Cold World" (RZA remix)
vii. Public Enemy: "Do You Wanna Go Our Way?"
viii. KRS-One: "Sound of da Police"
ix. Jeru the Damaja: "Renegade Slave"
x. Aim: "Phantasm"

CD2:
i. Roots Manuva: "Witness (One Hope)"
ii. Notorious B.I.G. & Method Man: "The What"
iii. A Tribe Called Quest: "Description of a Fool"
iv. Shyheim: "I Declare War"
v. Rae & Christian f. Pharcyde: "It Ain't Nothing Like" (Nextmen remix)
vi. Raekwon f. Ghostface Killah, Method Man, the RZA and Masta Killa: "Wu-Gambinos"
vii. Funky Fresh Few f. Afu Ra: "Through These Veins"
viii. Ty: "Break the Lock"
ix. Aim: "Underground Crownholders"
x. Monie Love: "Slice of da Pie"

CD3:
i. The Sugarhill Gang: "Rappers Delight"
ii. Grandmaster Flash: "Adventures of Flash on the Wheels of Steel"
iii. Hashim: "Al-Naayfish (The Soul)"
iv. Davy DMX: "The DMX Will Rock"
v. Ultramagnetic MCs: "Grip the Mic"
vi. Cold Crush Brothers: "Fresh, Fly, Wild & Bold"
vii. PHD f. Havoc: "Set It Part 3""
viii. Hijack: "Style Wars"
ix. Schoolly D: "P.S.K. What Does it Mean?"
x. Lady of Rage: "Afro Puffs"

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 13:04 (twenty-two years ago)

evaluate!! (from whatever angle strikes to you, as a bargain, as a history, as a statement, as a partytape...)

(re bargain: it cost £6.67...)

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Regulate

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

bizarre tracklisting - so hotch-potch and inconsistent, but sounds well worth owning, and no real 'bad' tracks

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 21 June 2003 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

'California Love' & Cursed Songs!

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

"Gin 'n' Juice" cover

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah weird desultory ahistoricism = pretty hiphop evocative! every cd tilts at canonical and then shrugs and drops randomness, just like it should

Chip Morningstar (bob), Saturday, 21 June 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

wow, Aim constitues a full 6.67% of the history of hiphop, yet i've never heard of them. i must be getting old. the best part is the title "hip-hop 24/7" - and hopefully there exists a commercial wherein the title is read by the guy who also does the monster truck spots.

ron (ron), Saturday, 21 June 2003 14:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Wonderful as I think Aim is, is he really that important in the history of hip-hop?

phil jones (interstar), Saturday, 21 June 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

aim, nextmen and ty are just like nothing-special brit hop

Chip Morningstar (bob), Saturday, 21 June 2003 14:16 (twenty-two years ago)

IT'S WHAT WE DO BEST!!

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not missing anything about the crucial importance of "Afro Puffs," am I?

nabisco (nabisco), Saturday, 21 June 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)

do you hate the true hip hop sound nabisco?

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

she was rough n' stuff with them

ron (ron), Saturday, 21 June 2003 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

witcha baad seeeyelf

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 21 June 2003 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

have you listened to the records yet, mark s?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 21 June 2003 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

my fav songs on this

Dr.Dre "F**k wit Dre Day (and Everybody's Celebratin')"---------i like the last thirty seconds best, the way the beat lags
2pac: "California Love"--------ok and even though dre was the hundredth dude to use the beat its still the best one (see also tash - fallin on --> the next episode, ha ha mark s look his name is TASH!!)
Snoop Doggy Dogg: "Gin & Juice"-------this song used to terrify me, snoops best chorus, i have a freestyle w biggie rhyming over it thats unstoppable
Dr.Dre & Ice Cube: "Natural Born Killaz"-----------streetest song they ever did, i know every rhyme by heart, intro is dres best skit, fav line: 'i dont understand the logic in my dreams / but i understand i like the sound of sireeeens'
Warren G & Nate Dogg: "Regulate"-------i like it more now just for being a proto 21 questions, really probably not nate doggs finest moment but still that makes it one of the best fifty or so songs ever
Genius f. D'Angelo, Inspectah Deck & Streetlife: "Cold World" (RZA remix)----------i think i know this from wu chronicles, standard rza gloom stuff but good
KRS-One: "Sound of da Police"--------first single from those two great records where krs was like wait if i hook up with premo i dont have to sound like el-p!!
Jeru the Damaja: "Renegade Slave"------'but wait if i hook up with premo i dont have to sound like i hate hiphop!!'
Notorious B.I.G. & Method Man: "The What"-----i love love love this song, one of those wonderful moments in history where the two most popular mcs were also the best (see jayz and eminem - renagade)
Shyheim: "I Declare War"------i think i heard this one but i liked it
Raekwon f. Ghostface Killah, Method Man, the RZA and Masta Killa: "Wu-Gambinos"---------im not sure if cuban linx is the best wu solo, too many dirges, too many mcs, but this is one of its best and basically invented the nyc black mafioso thing
The Sugarhill Gang: "Rappers Delight"------my fav thing about this song is how it seems like the one dude really HATES superman, like you can imagine him having this agenda as the group was starting out and growing in popularity, 'yo let me put my superman verse on this song, im really gonna show that bastard this time!!'
Grandmaster Flash: "Adventures of Flash on the Wheels of Steel"--------its good because theres no rapping
Cold Crush Brothers: "Fresh, Fly, Wild & Bold" --------its good because theres bad rapping
Hijack: "Style Wars"--------thanks e crunk from spizzazzz for sending me a mix with this on it, its good because theres british people rapping, also THE BEAT!!
Lady of Rage: "Afro Puffs"-------its aight

trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 21 June 2003 18:35 (twenty-two years ago)

KRS-One: "Sound of da Police"--------first single from those two great records where krs was like wait if i hook up with premo i dont have to sound like el-p!!
I am er scratching my head here what with this song preceding any major El-P activity by about three years. Unless KRS-One can see the future or some shit. "Verily I doth proclaim that in thine year nineteen ninety and six a betruckerhatted caucasian will set it off like Pharoahe Monch on fucked-up mushrooms and will be hotly debated over something called the 'inter-net'"

Jeru the Damaja: "Renegade Slave"------'but wait if i hook up with premo i dont have to sound like i hate hiphop!!'
Haha! But he "loves" hip-hop! That's why he got so ANGRY~ that the Fugees had a hit single with OH NO! SINGING! on it

The Sugarhill Gang: "Rappers Delight"------my fav thing about this song is how it seems like the one dude really HATES superman, like you can imagine him having this agenda as the group was starting out and growing in popularity, 'yo let me put my superman verse on this song, im really gonna show that bastard this time!!'
That's because true MCs are strictly Marvel, fuck that DC shit

Hijack: "Style Wars"--------thanks e crunk from spizzazzz for sending me a mix with this on it, its good because theres british people rapping, also THE BEAT!!
Ever hear their "Doomsday of Rap"? That's fucking sick, but also it uses the melody from Incredible Bongo Band's "Apache" instead of the break. Demented.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

patrin you know that since el-p is the only rapper i hate i have to make his usage all-purpose, also the jeru/fugees shit was started by them on zealots, i take more issue with him 'saving' hiphop from badboy wtf!!!

trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:09 (twenty-two years ago)

t\'\'t i listened once so far (hiphop day in my er crib yo) (i did actually know some of em already)

hmmm the only one i didn't really like first off = Notorious B.I.G. & Method Man: "The What"

i guess i hate wonderful moments in history :(

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

"Afro Puffs" was on the first hip-hop tape I bought too (OK first I bought without the NME saying it was OK to like). As was a Jeru track which is still the only one I really like, where he goes to get a haircut but the hairdresser has been replaced with Dr. Ignorance or some such so there has to be a fite.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:23 (twenty-two years ago)

: ( !!! but the way their verses overlap!! 'verse two, comin with that old e brew, methtical, puttin niggas back in icu'...... 'biggie smalls is the illest / your style is played like arnold, with that what you talkin bout willis'......'spit on your grave then i grab my charles dickens'.....'welcome to my center, honeys feel it deep in they placenta'....'im not a gentle, man, im a METHOD MAN'...... 'so instead of makin hoes suck my dick up / i used to do stickup / cuz hoes is irritatin like the HIC!cups / excuse me flows just just go through me / like trees to branches / cliffs to avalanches, its the preying mantis / deep like the mind of farrakan / MOTHERFUCKING RAP PHENOMANON!!!' and yo that was just from memory

trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

haha now that i can identify with!!

(actually tho funny and therefore important to say, this is v.unfair to my barber saf who is top and never fails to make me look turk for a day!)

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

(sorry i wz identifying with having my hair cut by dr ignorance)

trife i only heard it once!! i have to learn to walk b4 i can run!!

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

excuse me flows just just go through me / like trees to branches / cliffs to avalanches

*scratches head*

oops (Oops), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

jeru - "if i hook up with premo..."
firstly, he was hooked up with premo from the get go
secondly, it would appear that this song is not produced by premier but jeru himself (had to go to amg, i don't have this LP)

ron (ron), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

that's a really good line, oops, it links three completely different species of motion to causality itself, which becomes a way of saying "i the rapper AM flow"

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

its weird, all these songs are great-to-decent but the more i look at this tracklist the more it annoys me!!! as far as mixes go youd be better off with a pop-rap style monsters of rap comp with like bust a move and u cant touch this or any one of the source hip hop hits mixes of the past few years, i like the one with juvenile and guilty conscience and the s trife anthem SIMON SAYS

trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

dude, branches flow through trees, avalanches flow through cliffs!! its not that abstract!!

trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

actually i think i kind of like its arbitrariness, in terms of its being a primer (like if i know it's bad/random/useless/meaningless as an ARGUMENT so i can just hunt through for things *i* want to pick up on)

(ie it's a chart not a mixtape, the juxtapositions are serendipity if you want it...)

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:49 (twenty-two years ago)

oh ok is that from the third jeru lp, i had it confused with the frustrated nigga from wrath of the math, fuck it then!! the premo joke was just repetition of the krs one, anyway jeru had to hook up with premier before he started right!!! that song on hard to earn is kinda ill

trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:51 (twenty-two years ago)

i just listened to the what again to make sure that is what he says and it is, anyway weirdly beat kind of annoyed me cuz it has fake vinyl crackle!! mark youve made me hate biggie : (

trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

flows:me::trees:branches

trees don't go through branches. it's insane! how can i take this song seriously?!? (i really could give a shit if it makes perfect sense--it sounds good)

oops (Oops), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:53 (twenty-two years ago)

and on that note, sound of da police is a showbiz beat, but yeah that album is lots of premier

ron (ron), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

fuck i sound like i'm picking yr post apart too much, sorry

ron (ron), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

i hear it as FLOWS go through ME, like i am the conduit that flows go through, as trees are to branches, as cliffs are to avalanches, i am to flow

trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:55 (twenty-two years ago)

haha shut up ron with your mid 90s dj premier nitpicking!!! embarrassingly i think i have been schooled before on ilm for saying sound of da police was him

trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

no, it's a list of comparison-contrasts which move to a deeper link: eg trees cause branches, cliffs cause avalanches and I CAUSE FLOW (so his flow is simultaneously organic and cataclysmic)

trife my secret plan is to make ilm hate music, like i do

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Andy Wang to thread!

M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

well, if there was a good time to pay attention to premier, it was the mid 90's (jk) ;-)

ron (ron), Saturday, 21 June 2003 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

(no to oops there not no to trife) (not a big no tho) (yo)

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

premiers best year was 99, so ghetto and n2gether now!!

trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 21 June 2003 20:05 (twenty-two years ago)

where the fuck is Run-DMC?

That Girl (thatgirl), Saturday, 21 June 2003 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

i saw one of their dudes the other day, he was chillin with aaliyah and lefteye on a car hood

trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 21 June 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

you sure Run-DMC is hiphop and not "a rock band who plays funk and raps?" Like you know, "Rock Box" and "Walk This Way" seem pretty rock hiphop to me (kinda like rock disco).

hstencil, Saturday, 21 June 2003 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

w.laura sadler and irving stone :(

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

and hume cronyn

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

i like on that meth and biggy song where method man starts "...T-H-O-D MAN" and he's all like "oh well i'm gonna have to slay all with the 2 greatest verses of my career". it's so effortless

ssean, Saturday, 21 June 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean he doesn't even bother saying the first 2 letters of his name

ssean, Saturday, 21 June 2003 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)

only just noticed Hijack's 'Style Wars' is on there - fuckin ell! better off with Gunshot's 'First Offence' tho

glaring omissions (for the artists if not tracks suggested)

run dmc 'my adidas'
de la soul ft mos def 'stakes is high'
beastie boys 'get it together'
ll cool j 'i'm bad'
cypress hill 'insane in the brain'
ice t 'thats how i'm livin'
naughty by nature 'opp'
craig mack 'flava in ya ear (bad boy remix)'
busta rhymes 'rhymes galore'
missy elliot 'the rain (supa dupa fly)'
mc solaar 'nouveau western'
heavy d 'nuttin but love'

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 21 June 2003 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)

and what no Nas?

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 21 June 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

gang starr also missing

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 21 June 2003 20:27 (twenty-two years ago)

to be fair there is another hiphop three-fer for sale with it, like a companion piece, but i got confused about how the five-for-£30-quid deal worked (ie this is a triple CD but how many does it count as) and then (when it turned out to count as as one) couldn't be bothered to walk back and pick out a "fifth", so went with three-for-£20

anyway i don't know what's on the other one

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

thank god for that!! dude its obv incomplete as any 'history of hiphop' will ever be but suggesting mc solaar and beastie boys songs wont fix that

trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 21 June 2003 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

yo mark s im for real about the source hiphop hits comps, each one is golden

trife (simon_tr), Saturday, 21 June 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

(the fifth wd probbly have been ja rule)

(1st = tlc crazysexycool, 2ns = enter the wu-tang (36 chambers))

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

i saw one of their dudes the other day, he was chillin with aaliyah and lefteye on a car hood

hahahaha

(trees cause branches? I guess)

oops (Oops), Sunday, 22 June 2003 02:14 (twenty-two years ago)

You ever see branches just sitting there without any trees in the general vicinity? OK, maybe like some that've fallen off a truck or something, but other than that?

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 22 June 2003 02:43 (twenty-two years ago)

the thing is, i've never seen a tree without branches. it's like saying snakes cause tails.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 22 June 2003 02:45 (twenty-two years ago)

what about baby trees?

Josh (Josh), Sunday, 22 June 2003 03:39 (twenty-two years ago)

They got twigs

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 22 June 2003 03:46 (twenty-two years ago)

And wait wait wait hold up: "Decadance"? That is either/simultaneously the best/worst label pun ever

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 22 June 2003 04:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean baby baby trees (which unfortunately they have a word for, 'saplings', maybe that means they're not 'trees').

Josh (Josh), Sunday, 22 June 2003 04:12 (twenty-two years ago)

palm trees

minna (minna), Sunday, 22 June 2003 04:34 (twenty-two years ago)

what about them?

oops (Oops), Sunday, 22 June 2003 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)

if the trees are small enough you could use "palm" as a verb

er, uh... I mean "that Hashim track is fucking dope"

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 22 June 2003 04:47 (twenty-two years ago)

meth doesn't say the first two letters because he starts right after big says 'me'. so he's kind of not not saying them.

Josh (Josh), Sunday, 22 June 2003 07:04 (twenty-two years ago)

palm trees don't have branches

minna (minna), Sunday, 22 June 2003 07:08 (twenty-two years ago)

and?

oops (Oops), Sunday, 22 June 2003 07:24 (twenty-two years ago)

go and sit on one!

minna (minna), Sunday, 22 June 2003 07:30 (twenty-two years ago)

;-) ;-) ;-)

minna (minna), Sunday, 22 June 2003 07:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm no good at climbing them. sorry.

oops (Oops), Sunday, 22 June 2003 07:34 (twenty-two years ago)

nate on the sleeve it's written:

DECA
DANCE

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 22 June 2003 09:15 (twenty-two years ago)

DOYOU
SEE

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Sunday, 22 June 2003 09:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh they HAD to split up the lines like that. Now really. They could have had this whole multi-layered pun thing going (decade/dance) and they cold FUCKED IT UP. :`(

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 22 June 2003 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

dance times ten
dec(ember), a dance

ron (ron), Sunday, 22 June 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

As far as "true sound of hip-hop" goes, I'd say S is spot-on about Naughty by Nature -- that sound still strikes me as pretty much some weird M.O.R. center of the genre. (I.e. if aliens came and wanted the one-track summary of "what is this hip-hop you speak of". . .)

nabisco (nabisco), Sunday, 22 June 2003 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess it's a little on the jaunty side, but you know, it's like "Express Yourself" with the shiny-clothes party-rap reflection. So if "OPP" is a little too Dre la Soul "Hip Hop Hooray" would work okay.

nabisco (nabisco), Sunday, 22 June 2003 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)

'OPP' = ultimate feelgood hip hop track

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 22 June 2003 21:29 (twenty-two years ago)

for adulterers and homewreckers!! ;-)

ron (ron), Sunday, 22 June 2003 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)

And kittens!

nabisco (nabisco), Sunday, 22 June 2003 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)

The companion threefer:
"hip hop II showcases the differing styles represented in the world of hip hop..."

CD1 (The West Coast):
i. Dr.Dre "Nuthin' But a "G" Thing"
ii. Snoop Doggy Dogg f. Dat Nigga Daz: "Murder Was the Case"
iii. 2pac: "Me Against the World"
iv. Ice Cube: "No Vaseline"
v. Tha Dogg Pound Gang: "Dogg Pound 4 Life"
vi. Alkaholiks f. Ol' Dirty Bastard: "Hip Hop Drunkies"
vii. Snoop Doggy Dogg: "Who Am I (What's My Name)?"
viii. 2pac: "How Do You Want It?"
ix: Cocoa Brovaz f. Raekwon: "Black Trump"
x: Jay Dee: "Give It Up"

CD2 (The East Coast):
i. KRS-One: "MC's Act Like They Don't Know"
ii. A Tribe Called Quest: "I Left My Wallet in El Segundo"
iii. Jungle Brothers: "How Ya Want It We Got It" (Native Tongues Remix)
iv. Public enemy: "Dark Side of the Wall: 2000"
v. Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five: "The Message"
vi. The Sugarhill Gang: "Apache"
vii. Pete Rock f. The Un: "Nothin' Lesser"
viii. Afu-Ra: "Bigacts Littleacts" (DJ Premier Remix)
ix. Outsidaz: "State to State"
x. Ikonz: "Get Crunked Up" (Lil Kim Remix)

CD3 UK Style:
i. Roots Manuva f. Charlie 2NA: "Join the Dots"
ii. Rae & Chrsitian f. The Jungle Brothers: "Play On"
iii. King Bee: "Back by Dope Demand"
iv. The Nexymen f. Soulson: "Amongst the Madness"
v. MC Duke: "I', Riffin'" (1990 Remix)
vi. SL Troopers: "Movement"
vii. Big Kwam: "Verbalize" (DJ Spinna Remix)
viii. Skitz f. Wildflower, Tempa & Estelle: "Domestic Science"
ix. Ty: "The Tale"
x. Godson: "I Can"

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 28 June 2003 15:19 (twenty-two years ago)

(actually i got a third decadance threefer also, but it isn't meant as a third in this series, and there's overlap) (of sugarhill gang's "apache" for starters) (i'll post that soon)

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 28 June 2003 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

since when is detroit on the west coast? also i would have said cocoa brovas were east coast

ron (ron), Saturday, 28 June 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

(maybe it means "west coast STYLE"? they just happen be HOUSED other than in the west?)

mark s (mark s), Saturday, 28 June 2003 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

well, i don't think so. jay dee's work with the pharcyde is the only example jumping at me of him being 'west coast' style. "welcome to detroit" - he's pretty up-front about his locality

cocoa brovas = smif n wessun = boot camp = pretty typical nyc style, i'd say

but anyways, i'm curious about the uk disc and what someone who knows those groups thinks of it. (my reaction to the track selection of the first two is similar to that other comp - some ok songs but a lot of "huh"??)

ron (ron), Saturday, 28 June 2003 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

i guess i just think it's kind of dumb to label discs 'east coast' and 'west coast' (when was this put out?) aren't we past that yet, c'mon people now, smile on yr brother.

ron (ron), Saturday, 28 June 2003 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

hehe cocoa brovas "super brooklyn"

ron (ron), Saturday, 28 June 2003 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

(put out 2002 if the © is a guide)

mark s (mark s), Sunday, 29 June 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

i like your title change :)

ron (ron), Sunday, 29 June 2003 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

The crucial track these comps are missing is Black Sheep's "The Choice Is Yours".

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 29 June 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe it's like how the midwest used to be part of the American League West (I have no concept of how MLB is doing that shit these days, it's too confusing--haha Maura to thread!)

M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 29 June 2003 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

4 my hiphop drunkie mark s:

Dr.Dre "Nuthin' But a "G" Thing"...........'one, two, three and fo'....first snoop track ever!! that BEAT!! sadly its probably the only song on the original chronic that i still love, christ what an anthem, ohhh and the nice lil break after dre goes 'chill for the next episode' (though 'the next episode' is better sorry)
Snoop Doggy Dogg f. Dat Nigga Daz: "Murder Was the Case".........the atomospherics of this are incredible, the intro with 'angela sanders' and the 'now i lay me down to sleep...i pray the lord my soul to taaaaake' sung part, remember snoop was actually under heat in a murder trial when this song came out!!
2pac: "Me Against the World" ......... 'whats the use unless we shootin no one notice the youth', i like this song but the girl singin is annoying and makes the production sound weak
Ice Cube: "No Vaseline"........ mark it took me like five minutes searchin for this shit to find it but check this!!
Alkaholiks f. Ol' Dirty Bastard: "Hip Hop Drunkies"............this is marls last great beat and delicious guest verse by odb 'breaker breaker breaker one NOIIIINE / i bust this bitch in the beHOIIIIND with the silver SHOINNE / cuz i thought she was FWOINNNNE!!!'
Snoop Doggy Dogg: "Who Am I (What's My Name)?".......i could kinda live without this beat but the vocals are good
2pac: "How Do You Want It?".......... this song has kci and jojo on it!!! i like the chorus but i dont get where pac says their positions are 'erotic and ironic cuz im psychotic' or something like that, i mean it sound crazy kinky but WHAT DOES IT MEAN

KRS-One: "MC's Act Like They Don't Know".........omg!!! this is in my top five premo beats of all time and def fav krs song ever, love love love love love it, played the fuck out of it in high school, still know all the words, seach ilm for other posts where i talk more
A Tribe Called Quest: "I Left My Wallet in El Segundo".........ugh i used to hate this song and i still do sorta but the beat on the verses before the chorus is ill, id like to get an instrumental and drop the flamenco shit and use that beat for a freestyle
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five: "The Message" ..........i dont really connect this with hiphop but i like it
The Sugarhill Gang: "Apache".........search the fresh prince where will and carlton go to vegas and dance to this
Outsidaz: "State to State"..........detroit isnt east coast!! its weird cuz they have jay dee on the west coast disc and hes from there too... anyway this is a scary red-colored beat, i cant remember but i think rockwilder produced it? i got back into outsidaz after i loved the young zee track on 8mile so i relistened to all their shit just for his verses and hes a very pleasurable mc, its like having your scalp massaged
Ikonz: "Get Crunked Up" (Lil Kim Remix).......i love this song!!! i havent heard the lil kim remix but i imagine its just the song w a kim verse tacked on so im putting it on the list, remember the breast implant thing on mtv where the girl used her new boobies to get in this video!!

trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 29 June 2003 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

BUMP: for tim hopkins to talk abt the uk hiphop disc's appositeness or lack thereof

mark s (mark s), Monday, 30 June 2003 11:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Shan't.

Tim (Tim), Monday, 30 June 2003 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)

shan't is the father of must

mark s (mark s), Monday, 30 June 2003 11:56 (twenty-two years ago)

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trife (simon_tr), Monday, 30 June 2003 19:20 (twenty-two years ago)

"Outsidaz: "State to State"..........detroit isnt east coast!!"

But New Jersey (where the outsidaz originate) is east coast. Kinda odd they would chose this as one of the hip hop's 30 steps though. A lot of the choices are wierd. Is that really the best Pete Rock song that could find? And Afu Ra is pretty mediocore, and that isn't even his best song. Maybe instead of including non-west coast artists like Cocoa Brovaz, Rae, and Jay Dilla, they could've put up a Bay Area artist other than 2 Pac. Digitial Underground, E-40, Too Short, someone from Quanumn, ISP...anyone else...

And...Godson: "I Can." This is the Nas song, right? Unlike almost everyone else i know, I kinda like this song. But Nas' best? And U.K. style? I guess he bites Slick Rick a little...

s.c., Monday, 30 June 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)


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