Chuck Eddy:Master Editor!And/Or:1400 Words Split In Half Like A Baby In The Bible

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So, long story short: i sent this thing in to my eddytor at the village voice months ago and it was really, really long-but brilliant, ya know, as is my wont-and here's the kicker:He never got it! i dunno what happened? And since we are so in synch with each other i never asked him about it-and wrote some other stuff in the meantime-and he never asked me what happened to it. so, one day i DID happen to mention it and he said that he never got it so i sent it again, but by that time the voice had determined that shorter and snappier was the way to go and there ya have it. no room at the inn.so he cut it in half to make it fit. and it looks cool. i like it both ways. i guess it depends on howya like yer rockcrit.
anyhoo, since i love you all so much and because you are all soooooo lucky, i'm gonna share the uncut funk with you. don't you feel lucky? if you hate it, lemme know. i could use a laugh.here's the link to the published version:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0347/seward.php

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:31 (twenty-two years ago)

here's the unedited version.



Ear, Nose & Throat
Rapider Than Horsepower "Stage fright, Stage fright"
by Scott Seward

Wackiness and weariness often walk hand in hand where rock and roll
singers are concerned. A listener's own personal threshold for whims,
quirks, kinks, and vocal contortions, and their willingness to follow an
"inspired" performer from point abba to point zabba, is
subjective enough as to make one man's pork soda delish in every way, and
another man's frog brigade merely soggy to the touch.
So if you're down with Primus & Zappa, but find Bungle &
Beefheart anathema, and "novelty" and "joke"
(mainstream terminology) and "arty" and "visionary"
(underground terminology) are either pejoratives or superlatives
--depending on your aural intake valves and your own view on the whole
half
empty/half full life question thing-- thrown at any disparate
baggypants crooners whose nasalities and tonsorial gymnastics range on
the taste scale from acceptable to acquired, then it's safe to say that
your invisible lines are drawn, your gradations calculated and where you
stand (or sit) depends largely on answers to questions fine-tuned and
measurable only by doctors of musicology trained in Rorschach and voice.

To wit: Are you now or have you ever been a Rush fan? Does
the sound of Billy Corgan, arguably the most successful novelty singer
since Tiny Tim, make you wince or cringe? (For me both. And not just
because he reminds me of that little kid from childhood who wants to go
down to the basement and show you his weewee when all you really want is
to look at his big brother's stellar collection of Creepy magazines
thereby inciting a riot of mental expletives in your head along the lines
of: "He's such a jerk. Why did we have to move here? I hate Mom and
Dad!" But also because he reminds me of that same kid years later
pretending to like the same bands that you like even though you know that
he could never understand the greatness of a Wire Train or an Aztec
Camera.) On a scale of 1 to 10, whose effluviant proboscisity is most
comforting to you (ten being a dangerous level of adenoidal immersion)?
Joe Walsh. Leon Redbone. Jad Fair. Jimmy Dale Gilmore (who is known in
Austin, Texas as "Ol' Lonesome Nostrils"). That dude from Sunny
Day Real Estate. Needless to say, a full battery of tests in a clinical
setting could easily determine your nose to ear compatibility quotient as
well as your tolerance for various keens, yips, mewls, grunts and
whimpers. You might be surprised by the differences found in the
predilections of your average Victoria Williams fan, Kristin Hersh fan,
Shakira fan and Buffy St. Marie fan.
Of course, there is a scale and then there is beyond the pale. Your Ubu
difficulty ratings in the
95th
percentile or higher. The yo-yo snorts and warbles of Beefheart borne
from the unholy croakus behemoth known as Howlin' Wolf as well as the
glory glory glottalujah upheavals and "I'll be damned if I didn't go
and get a bullfrog stuck in my throat and now it's dead and I've been
trying to cough it up for years now to no avail" glossolalia of
Bobby "Blue" Bland. The burbling, bubbling
insanity-is-just-around-the-bend laughing boy creepiness of Napolean XIV.
He of the one-hit wondrousness and who inspired legions. From Dr.
Demento's radio persona and reason for being to that goofball who used to
be in Mercury Rev before that band discovered the cure for insomnia. The
art-dunked pro-weirdo sounds of people like ex-Homosexual, Brit D.I.Y.
legend, ebay gold standard and Johan Kugelberg-touted L. Voag. Whose
early 80's The Way Out solo elpee is riddled with mysterious guitar
tunings and off-key high-pitch yelps. His sound would unwittingly become
the template --along with that of Ohio-bred dub house legends and
precursors to everything, Pere Ubu, not to mention the archival late
70's/early 80's work of buckeye gods Ron House & Mike Rep, and
come to think of it Ohio-lamenting Canuck and man of a thousand whines
Neil Young-- for a large portion of modern indie stuff too weird or
geeky to be called punk. Hah! Imagine being too geeky to be called punk.
That's really, really geeky.
Which is why I dig stuff like the new Rapider Than Horsepower album. Cuz
they iz freeky and they are through being cool. Cuz I'm sick of people
who still wanna be Iggy's dog. (Ironic cuz Iggy is the biggest geek of
them all. But then so is Lou.) My quirk standard is easy to suss: I like
people who used to KNOW Zappa and the people who Mike Patton thinks are
cool. And I like Geddy Lee but not Primus. It's that simple.
Rapider's music is as far from the curdled musings of abstemious
longhairs obsessed with titty jokes as you would like them to be. But
then that particular brand of Uncle Miltie-in-drag pursed lip meanness
probably went to the grave with Zappa anyway. At least as far as most
music is concerned. The "everyone is icky, stupid and foul"
aesthetic is unfortunately an American tradition that goes back to Cotton
Mather and gets picked up from time to time by people like Todd Solondz
and Neil LaBute. But the more open-ended Beefheart microverse is where
the out-there kids aspire to live. Right next to Uncle Sonny on Saturn.
Bizarre beats straight every time.
The wank/prog shifts in tone and time in Rapider's songs are melded with
the betterer and newerer leaps in whimsy innovation brought to you by
folks as close or as far away from each other philosophically as you
would care to argue: Modest Mouse, Devendra Banhart, or maybe even a
faint whiff of the twee-no/lo-ramshackle-fi of sea salt-seasoned
siltbreeze loons from the 90's like the Shadow Ring or Alastair
Galbraith. Impeccably timed hoots and group hollers even a
cheerleader-style shout-out that spells the band's name and which grows
more and more desultory with every passing letter. Shaggy enthusiasm and
twisty guitar lines: the Meat Puppets and Fraggle Rock converge on the
same hallowed ground. And that voice that shakes and breaks and cracks. A
voice that is my idea of idiot fun but that might just be a dealbreaker
for those enamored with a lower register or attempts at sobriety. Or for
those people who insist that they were terrified of circus clowns as
children and who prefer the cackle/croon/growl/spit takes of a Mr.
Bungle.
There are moments on Stage fright, Stage fright, where they seem to
bottle the poetic essence of ex-Zappa pal Wildman Fischer. He had that
inimitable way of taking a line like "Jimmy Durante is coming to
town" from his tune "Jimmy Durante" and giving the word
"is" an extra push up the cliff until it gasped for breath at
the summit of deranged inflection. I might be so bold as to say that
Rapider Than Horsepower ARE the "is" from "Jimmy
Durante". Others might disagree and say that surely they are the
babies from the line "Screaming babies" in Eve Libertine's
deathless reading of "Shaved Women" by Crass. It's possible
that they are both these things.
Rapider Than Horsepower are Sal, Mike Dixon, Mike Anderson and Rob Smith.
I don't know where they are from or who they are. They should move to
Ohio if they don't live there already. Their song about caterpillars goes
"POP! Tttttt POP! Tttttt POP!" Their song about babies is
called "Rock Against Mapquest." In another song called,
"Lick Me on the Face, It Feels Funny" there is a great line
about C.L. Smooth & L.L. Cool J. Stage fright, Stage fright is less
than 25 minutes long and is part one of a projected 2-part series. They
amble and stumble and make a racket. They aren't that funky but they make
really silly songs and sounds with their mouths. They could do a killer
cover of "They're Coming to Take Me Away Ha-Haaa" if they
wanted to.

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I just want to note, again, for the record, that whoever's behind the voice's "revamping" needs to be shot four times in the back of the head.

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Did Eddy ever can that stupid idiot grrrl who wrote that really dumb Sonic Youth review that was all about playing dress-up as a cool wee teen lass and missing those good ol' days and now Kim Gordon got old and it's like really really a draaaaaaaaag, you know, youth fluttering out my window bye-bye gone and somehow now find myself inexplicably and ostyensibly reviewing - oh yeah! - a RECORD in the voice!

Then again, he hired her, so my advice is to DUMB IT DOWN, Scott! Or at least be a still-attractive post-wee teen lass who gives Chuck Eddy lotsa powdery stuff bribes and/or cock blow/suck hotsy-totsy mojo risin' motion.

Robert Christgau, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)

they're both fucking amazing scott.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:40 (twenty-two years ago)

robert christgau doesn't hyphenate 'hotsy totsy'!!! shenanigans!

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

fuck off with the chuck-baiting. it's played!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I can only think of one chuck baiting ilxor and that's totally not his style

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

>I can only think of one chuck baiting ilxor and that's totally not his style<

Hey, maybe I wrote that post!

Actually I didn't, but to answer what appears to be the moron- pretending-to-be-Christgau's question, the highly entertaining and often hilarious Amy Phillips, who wrote what remains one of the best Sonic Youth pieces of all time, still writes for for the Voice music section. And I believe Scott Seward is a fan of her writing, as well.

chuck, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't agree with that Amy Philips Sonic Youth review, but even I admit it was a memorable piece of criticism.

o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

hey chuck, what was with that Suntanama/Dysrhythmia review? Mainly, why was 1/3rd of it about Mars Volta and not, say, the two releases listed?

hstencil, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 21:56 (twenty-two years ago)

It was also 2/3 NOT about Mars Volta....they were sort of a bridge between the other two, and we'd already done a review of them (in sound of the city, by Nick Catucci if I remember correctly). So, to be honest, it made more sense to me to trim them from the review box at the top of the piece than to further shorten the text. Which, I know, I know, might have confused a few people, but this was a DON ALLRED review, you know? So they were probably already confused! And anyway, who says you SHOULDN'T be able to write about Mars Volta in a Suntanama/Dysrhythmia review? It's not like there's a law against it!

chuck, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Settle down, I'm not saying he shouldn't have written about them, it just made an already-incomprehensible piece even more confusing.

hstencil, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway, the Mars Volta are better than either of the two listed bands.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I wasn't getting unsettled; just explaining. And well, as Scott Seward has said, the best way to read Don Allred pieces is when you're REALLY REALLY DRUNK. Then you realize what a genius the guy is!

chuck, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Mars Volta ARE better (and Don might well agree with you on that, by the way). But Mars Volta have also already had way more press.

chuck, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)

he may be a genius but it sure didn't show in that review.

hstencil, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you like *any* of his stuff, hstencil? I'm just curious.

chuck, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

>Mars Volta ARE better (and Don might well agree with you on that, by the way).

Don't get me wrong; I like Dysrhythmia (reviewed 'em for the Wire). But that Mars Volta album would be #1 if I numbered my Top Ten. As it is, it's filed under "M."

When do we have to submit P&J ballots, anyway?

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I think I've read other stuff of his I've liked, Chuck, but I can't remember any of it off-hand. Maybe.

hstencil, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

You file your ballots after send them to you! I think the deadline is January 5; we're compiling the list of critics right now. It's very, very long.

Off hand, I'd say my favorite Don Allred pieces he's done for me were the ones on the Dixie Chicks and Drive By Truckers. But there are probably others (the Mollys, Hank Jr, David Allen Coe, Toby Keith, Prague prog rock?...I forget) nearly as good.

chuck, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

how about that one
where he broke down CMT
video countdown?

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I should really check out that Dysrhythmia album, I used to exchange e-mails with the guitarist back in the day. I think I may have sent him my metal band's hilarious first demo eight years ago.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

....after WE (or I, if you prefer) send them to you....(I mean)

yeah, his CMT video countdown thing kicked ass. He's done a lot of ridiculously great short, sidebar-length things that I tend to forget.

chuck, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Industry schmoozing. Nothing to see here. Move along, move along...

Kjoerup, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

It's JIMMIE Dale Gilmore btw...'nuff respect

Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:26 (twenty-two years ago)

i think the x-gau on here was greil marcus the other day(when he was making fun of momus). but i could be wrong. look out for scathing put-down posts by ira robbins in the future. except ira robbins has posted here before, so be really sure that it's not ira robbins before you tell him to fuck off. unless you really really hate ira robbins, in which case...

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:35 (twenty-two years ago)

it's not ira, i promise. he don't read ilx.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Spot Judgements in Music Journalism

this wasn't him on this thread, yancey?

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:51 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah it was. but i sent him that link and asked him to reply (he's a good friend). and he's not the type to slam someone on a message board (klosterman rant excepted)! and he likes amy phillips! and chuck e!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)

no, i know, just joking. i was just wondering who the mystery blowhard would end up impersonating next.

And I do like Amy! a lot. she's great. and don, well, if i start talking about don it will just devolve into fanboy babbling.

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)

They're not from Ohio, Scott, they're from Bloomington, IN, and I've rubbed shoulders with their singer at the record store and I saw them live last week, and this is the first time I've ever read a piece by you where I like the band as much as the writing and, guess what, I appreciate the writing EVEN MORE. If you haven't heard Racebannon, their singer's other band, you really really should.

Sonny A. (Keiko), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Scott, well done....especially the "crooners/baggypants" part. Are you sure your editor won't claim it for himself? (I'm joking)

no, i know, just joking. i was just wondering who the mystery blowhard would end up impersonating next.

Or they're just too scared to post their own opinion, under their own name.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)

scott the "is" line is the best part. The whole paragraph really.

haha funny story re: eddy baiting -- the woman who wrote the breeders review that ILX jumped all over emailed me the other day out of the blue. she said the thread had hurt her at first but she decided she writes how she likes now anyway. but i think i scared her when i talked about being an undie-rap hating hermit who obsesses over the difference between "etc." "and so on" "et cet." "and, and, and..." and etc.

either that or bored her, coz she never wrote back after that.

(ps i still like your el-p review best)

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 02:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I still don't get what's intentionally hilarious and entertaining about Amy Phillips' writing. But hey, I've totally benefited from his search for young new writers so I'll be happy to let him shout to the world that it's impressive when a person gets over Sonic Youth when they leave high school (but doesn't step back to wonder if the band changed or if THEY'VE changed).

There's too many sentence fragments and references in your article for my taste, Scott, but I enjoyed it plenty.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I understand that an editor in NY might find ordinary-shmoe takes on bands refreshing, but I'm always surprised, like with that Metallica review, that they'd find it impressive. You'd think they forgot ordinary fans outnumber critics or something.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:26 (twenty-two years ago)

what metallica review?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:40 (twenty-two years ago)

this one

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:46 (twenty-two years ago)

which was indeed funny. but damn if everyone I know who gave a shit didn't say the same exact stuff.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 03:47 (twenty-two years ago)

But they say it as WELL, Anthony? If they did, which I doubt, they should have put it in print. Ordinary fans obviously outnumber critics, but critics who can WRITE like ordinary fans (or even ordinary fans who can write like ordinary fans) certainly don't outnumber critics who write like critics. And anyway, there is nothing ordinary about the Metallica review (or the Sonic Youth or Breeders reviews) in question. And Amy Phillips DID talk about both her life AND Sonic Youth's music changing, for crissakes. That's what the piece was ABOUT, for crissakes. Go back and read the thing.

chuck, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

But DID they say it as well?, I meant.

chuck, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, okay, ALL ordinary fans write like ordinary fans. Unless they're illiterate. But doing it and being interesting at the same time is the trick, I guess. (And besides, ordinary fans ARE critics.)

chuck, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, okay, ALL ordinary fans write like ordinary fans. Unless they're illiterate.

Should criticism be done in hieroglyphics?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

No. Everyone's seen hieroglyphics before, and how many ancient Egyptian albums do you remember? The Steve Martin thing doesn't count - that was fake.

jazz odysseus, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

that guy.

cozen (Cozen), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Solomon: C/D.

Just for the record, Solomon only threatened to split that baby in two.

dylan (dylan), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

got an e-mail from my dad. he never sends me e-mails. i'll have to tell him that rapider are from indiana(and that i have nothing but love for ohio).


s cott-- i had already printed the original horsepower but reread your longer piece--i am bored--- you have knocked the state of ohio twice now in voice
articles----in my business travels i had a good time in ohio--in the army in fort knox, ky i had a girlfriend in cincinnati that i drove up to visit-nice little night
life in cincinnati.--- however they have just officially blamed the utility in cleveland for the northeast blackout so maybe they are out to get you!!!!!-- you
could try indiana next time--never find anything redeeming there
love dad

scott seward, Thursday, 20 November 2003 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)

that was an impentrable read. like reading a paranoid schizophrenic's breakdown of his place in the matrix with jesus christ. FUCK. you broke my brain.

argh, Thursday, 20 November 2003 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Hi Doomie!

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 20 November 2003 13:21 (twenty-two years ago)

btw before i get flamed i liked the article. geez.

argh, Thursday, 20 November 2003 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Why isn't the crucial subject of this thread addressed: sometimes Chuck's email eats his copy. Is the Voice email system held together by duct tape? Chuck, you got my piece, didn't you? It was short, with lots of parantheticals, as that's my thing.

musicmope (musicmope), Thursday, 20 November 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I got it! Sometimes people send weird attachments though, & it all comes out as fucked up illegibile wingding hieroglyphics. What's so hard about cutting and pasting into the text is something I'll never get -- those attachments, I have to convert into emails anyway! (On the other hand, yes. Our computer system here does indeed suck eggs.)

chuc k, Thursday, 20 November 2003 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)


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