ZZ Top: C/D

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I can't believe there isn't a thread about them. Are they not cool enough for all the Brits here or something? Anyway, my love of the wacky men with the beards was rekindled recently when a copy of Deguello fell into my hands and I was promptly reminded of what a great funky slightly evil sounding number "Cheap Sunglasses" is. Mmmmm yeah. Another in the long lineage of great and strange Texas bands... also what the hell does their name mean, anyway?

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 5 March 2004 01:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I read what it meant but then forgot - some kinda reference to ZZ Hill, I think.

Totally fucking undeniably classic - check the archives dude, I asked ILM if I should buy the box set about a month or two ago (I did - worth every penny!!)

My dream band would certainly include Billy Gibbons on guitar.

CLASSICCLASSICCLASSIC

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 5 March 2004 01:46 (twenty-two years ago)

what the - there's a box set??!?

I searched the archive for threads about ZZ Top and found nothing...

Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 5 March 2004 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, the box set is called Chrome Smoke and BarBQ

totally worth getting, for the first two and a half discs alone

roger adultery (roger adultery), Friday, 5 March 2004 01:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Classic.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 5 March 2004 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think there is a "C/D" thread, actually. That's strange ... but there are these:

Convince me not to shell out $70 for the ZZ Top box set
ZZ Top's "Deguello" - C/D, S/D
Is there a non-"remastered" version of ZZ Top's Tejas available on CD?
ZZ TOP: Eliminator and Afterburner
POX:ZZ Top

Oh, and very much classic.

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 5 March 2004 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, their name means the same thing as Jefferson Airplane's.

Broheems (diamond), Friday, 5 March 2004 02:02 (twenty-two years ago)

great and strange Texas bands

Related, but off topic...

Bubble Puppy. If you haven't, there's a cheap remaster. It's good.

Point Blank. First album, way beyond "brown period" ZZ Top. Shotgun pointed at your head. Completely unacceptable beat-yer-wife-and-the-liberals-too crashing boogie on Arista. Never remastered -- except for my special "Sludge in the Seventies" series. "The Hard Way" is also good. That may still be in stock in various places.

George Smith, Friday, 5 March 2004 02:02 (twenty-two years ago)

C

asfdzxc (asfdzxc), Friday, 5 March 2004 03:18 (twenty-two years ago)

if you're searching for zz top in the archive and don't get anything its bcz of the 4 words or less thing so enter one of their albs and the threads should come out.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 5 March 2004 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Up through Deguello -- Classic

Best Album: Tres Hombres

christoff (christoff), Friday, 5 March 2004 16:45 (twenty-two years ago)

the newish one is really good too.
I'm gonna see them this summer. Unless I don't.

The Huckle-Buck (Horace Mann), Friday, 5 March 2004 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Classic. But those horrendous digitally remastered (or remixed or whatever) "modernized" "drum" tracks on "La Grange" and elsewhere are an abomination. Utterly stupid, if not evil.

Myonga Von Bontee, Friday, 5 March 2004 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)

...oh, and it's been speculated that their name refers to Zig Zag and Tops, both brands of rolling papers.

Myonga Von Bontee, Friday, 5 March 2004 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)

is dud even an option?

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Friday, 5 March 2004 22:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I been up, I been down.
Take my word, my way around.
I ain't askin' for much.
I said, Lord, take me downtown,
I'm just lookin' for some tush.

I been bad, I been good,
Dallas, Texas, Hollywood.
I ain't askin' for much.
I said, Lord, take me downtown,
I'm just lookin' for some tush.

Take me back way back home,
not by myself, not alone.
I ain't askin' for much.
I said, Lord, take me downtown,
I'm just lookin' for some tush.

- Frank Beard, Bill Gibbons & Dusty Hill

Keith Connelly, Sunday, 7 March 2004 04:36 (twenty-two years ago)

70s: Boring bluesrock. Dud
80s: Classic, mainly because of great production, but better songs too.
90s onwards: Dud.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 7 March 2004 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

ZZ Top's "Legs" is the best video of all time. I might submit a paper about it to the EMP next year.

Classic.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 7 March 2004 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

And I really need to buy more. All I own is Eliminator. Which rocks.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 7 March 2004 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...
I'm listening to Tres Hombres right now. Classic.

AaronHz (AaronHz), Thursday, 12 August 2004 09:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i love it when you suddenly get the urge to download a whole load of a band's songs. A while back Ronan mentioned he heard 'Gimme All Your Lovin' at a club and the idea just seemed brilliant. Classic.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 12 August 2004 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
Classic good news! I noticed in Amazon that Rhino has remastered and expanded versions of Tres Hombres and Fandango listed as coming out 2-28-06. My only hope is that this is only the beginning and they get the rest of the ZZ Top titles.

earlnash, Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:31 (twenty years ago)

I just snagged a copy of the "Sleeping Bag" 12". Maybe I'm insane, but I dig all the dance remixes of the mid- to late-80s stuff. It's fantastic party music.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 19:51 (twenty years ago)

"Fandango!" is awesome, too. "It was down at the Balinese."

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 14 December 2005 22:55 (twenty years ago)

nine months pass...
The remastered Tres Hombres sounds frigging great. Fandango is on the way to me but why did they not include more of the concert that takes up the first side of the cd? Any word on when the other 70's albums are going to be remastered?

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Sunday, 17 September 2006 23:55 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

http://www.cjnetworks.com/~leis/album/zztop/tejas.jpg

this might be the best album ever made

chaki, Sunday, 4 November 2007 20:57 (eighteen years ago)

Got to see these guys when they played the Beacon Theatre in NYC a month or so back. They fucking tore the walls down. Tremendous.

unperson, Sunday, 4 November 2007 21:36 (eighteen years ago)

It's getting hard to see the white lines rollin by...

Trip Maker, Monday, 5 November 2007 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

What a totally classic band. I'm depressed I missed the Beacon show.

Bill Magill, Monday, 5 November 2007 16:28 (eighteen years ago)

three months pass...

Customizer behind CadZZilla dies

C. Grisso/McCain, Thursday, 28 February 2008 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

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C. Grisso/McCain, Thursday, 28 February 2008 16:49 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

I am itchin' to find out what Rick Rubin does with them. Itchin', I tell ya.

kenan, Thursday, 15 May 2008 20:31 (eighteen years ago)

All acoustic covers of new wave acts.

QuantumNoise, Thursday, 15 May 2008 20:32 (eighteen years ago)

But seriously, I'm into this idea.

QuantumNoise, Thursday, 15 May 2008 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

I mean, the idea of ZZ Top ELECTRIC with Rick Rubin.

QuantumNoise, Thursday, 15 May 2008 20:34 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I don't think even Rubin would unplug them. That would be Rubin self-parody.

kenan, Thursday, 15 May 2008 20:38 (eighteen years ago)

oh man if he wants them to take it back to tres hombres this could be great news indeed....

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 15 May 2008 20:41 (eighteen years ago)

Arguably the world's greatest living bluesman, Billy Gibbons

milo z, Thursday, 15 May 2008 20:49 (eighteen years ago)

arguably, yes.

kenan, Thursday, 15 May 2008 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

Why not Billy Gibbons? Fucking Brown Sugar off their first album, what an awesome blues song.

Just Got Paid may be my favorite song of all time.

Bill Magill, Thursday, 15 May 2008 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

I fucking love this band.

Euler, Thursday, 15 May 2008 21:09 (eighteen years ago)

I'd be surprised if Rubin could jackhandle them into producing an album as interesting as Mescalero. The band was so down-tuned for half the numbers you could almost hear the strings scraping the pickups. Plus they did Lowell Fulson's "Tramp," which makes about half an album worthwhile all by itself.

However, I'm one who has liked ZZ Top's last couple of albums. XXX was a little off but Rhythmeen was singular in its wall-of-guitar tone. Check Vincent Price Blues, as per one sample.

ZZ Top and their 1st-RioGrandeMud-TresHombres period are like the American blue-collar worker and $20 buck/hour wages. The paradigm is gone and not coming back. If Rick Rubin gets people to pay attention to 'em a little more, that's fine.

What's exactly is there -to do- with ZZ Top if you're a producer, anyway?

Everything ZZ Top has done in the last ten years has been R&B as hard rock and blooz as jokey semi-heavy metal and vice versa. It's not been a bad way of writing for them.

The last revolution in tone they went through came with Eliminator when Billy started playing through Rockman equipment, Frank Beard was laced to sequencing and a click track and gated reverb was used on all the drums. Plus Dusty was singing a lot less.

They dumped all that when they went to RCA for Antenna. Rusty still isn't singing as much as he used to, though.

Gorge, Thursday, 15 May 2008 23:26 (eighteen years ago)

ZZ Top and their 1st-RioGrandeMud-TresHombres period are like the American blue-collar worker and $20 buck/hour wages. The paradigm is gone and not coming back.

What paradigm is that? When was ZZ Top ever defined by the year they were recording in? I know you're talking about sound here -- too narrowly, I think -- but either way, that seems like a blank argument.

What's exactly is there -to do- with ZZ Top if you're a producer, anyway?

I don't know what line of work you're in, but I hope it's not producing records. What exactly can you *do* with 4/4 time and 12 bars? It's just so limited...

kenan, Friday, 16 May 2008 10:41 (eighteen years ago)

I know, maybe my hopes are too high. But there's a lot of ZZ Top to work with. There's some serious raw blues, as was said, and their affinity for pure sonics, which was all-time greatness on a couple albums before it got a little out of hand and cloudy, and there's always that genius/weird sense of humor that produces songs like "Cheap Sunglasses," which is a joke with no punch line, so instead of being funny, it decides to just fuckin' rock. There are a lot of places for ZZ Top to go or go back to, which of course is Rubin's speciality.

And while rationally I know better, I want to believe that there's such a thing as Huge Fuck-Off Beard Magic, and that Rubin and Billy and Dusty all have it in spades.

kenan, Friday, 16 May 2008 10:56 (eighteen years ago)

With all the southern rock haters I've seen on ILX I'm surprised at how positive this thread is.

This is the first band I can remember liking. Ecstatically at that. A tape of Eliminator that I think belonged to my dad.

Kenan, I made the same mistake with the new Stooges album.

:(

RabiesAngentleman, Friday, 16 May 2008 11:08 (eighteen years ago)

I'M BAD

I'M NATIONWIDE

Tracer Hand, Friday, 16 May 2008 11:21 (eighteen years ago)

They dumped all that when they went to RCA for Antenna.

There's still silly polish and f/x all over their last few records, including Antenna.

QuantumNoise, Friday, 16 May 2008 11:30 (eighteen years ago)

They need to release a for-real live album. I saw them at the Beacon Theater late last year and had my brain yanked out and hurled around the room.

unperson, Friday, 16 May 2008 12:11 (eighteen years ago)

I've heard they can still dominate live. No news on any of the old shit being remastered like fandango and 3 hombres, right? Too bad, I'd love to upgrade the first two.

Bill Magill, Friday, 16 May 2008 14:02 (eighteen years ago)

No, none of the others are on the Rhino remaster list, as far as I know. You're right, they definitely should remaster the first two - hell, I'd like remasters of everything up through Eliminator (which is coming as a 2CD deluxe edition later in the year).

unperson, Friday, 16 May 2008 14:13 (eighteen years ago)

I'll put Sure Got Cold After The Rain Fell up against any Southern Rock epic. Fuck a Free Bird.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 25 September 2023 22:17 (two years ago)

one month passes...

El Loco is such a weird album, kind of mellow, but I love it now.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 8 November 2023 23:27 (two years ago)

their love for new wave really starts coming through on this one.

andrew m., Thursday, 9 November 2023 15:14 (two years ago)

^^^ and totally sets the stage for Eliminator. I didn't really care about ZZ Top in the 70s, but as a new wave loving young adult working in a record store in 1980 it was an eye-opener.

Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 9 November 2023 15:55 (two years ago)

Dusty Hill Estate Auction:

https://www.julienslive.com/auctions/catalog/id/505

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 November 2023 23:05 (two years ago)

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an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 November 2023 23:10 (two years ago)

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an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 November 2023 23:14 (two years ago)

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an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 November 2023 23:17 (two years ago)

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an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 November 2023 23:19 (two years ago)

Uhh

calstars, Sunday, 12 November 2023 23:21 (two years ago)

https://www.julienslive.com/images/lot/5901/590120_m.jpg?ts=1695182525

^^Custom Staircase Spindle

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 November 2023 23:25 (two years ago)

Would buy an Eliminator or Afterburner tape test press for $5

calstars, Sunday, 12 November 2023 23:26 (two years ago)

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an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 November 2023 23:30 (two years ago)

Oops

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an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 November 2023 23:31 (two years ago)

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an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 November 2023 23:33 (two years ago)

Well, yeah

calstars, Sunday, 12 November 2023 23:36 (two years ago)

https://www.julienslive.com/images/lot/6067/606774_m.jpg?ts=1697848333

If I ever caught her with Stevie P
I'd throw her back in the Penitentiary, now
And if I caught her with my mother's son
I'll call her daddy and get my gun

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 November 2023 23:37 (two years ago)

https://www.julienslive.com/images/lot/5903/590378_m.jpg?ts=1695184932

Hand me another one of them brews from back there.
Oh, this is gonna be so good.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 12 November 2023 23:40 (two years ago)

+1

calstars, Sunday, 12 November 2023 23:42 (two years ago)

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a (waterface), Monday, 13 November 2023 13:26 (two years ago)

Dusty was one broad-shouldered, barrel-chested hombre...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Monday, 13 November 2023 14:04 (two years ago)

two months pass...

I dont reslly know if these are new new videos or new old videos or what but matt sweeney has the best channel fyi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl5Dy35u1AY

blazin' squab (NickB), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 18:49 (two years ago)

his guitar has such a nasal, brassy quality that when he plays more softly it almost sounds like a muted horn

blazin' squab (NickB), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 18:58 (two years ago)

trombone perhaps

blazin' squab (NickB), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 18:58 (two years ago)

Guitar moves is awesome. High recommend the Deaner, Cass Mccombs and J Mascis episodes too.

H.P, Wednesday, 7 February 2024 23:53 (two years ago)

Matt acquired all the old Guitar Moves eps from Vice/Noisey which are slowly being re-released but also (!!!) Matt started producing new eps

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 23:58 (two years ago)

ah thanks, i wondered what was going on. never saw them the first time round for vice-avoidance reasons, hugely enjoying them now though

blazin' squab (NickB), Thursday, 8 February 2024 00:04 (two years ago)

however i could definitely have done without kid rock in the billy gibbons one

blazin' squab (NickB), Thursday, 8 February 2024 00:06 (two years ago)

I could do without Kid Rock on this earth.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 8 February 2024 00:06 (two years ago)

kid go find another rock

blazin' squab (NickB), Thursday, 8 February 2024 00:08 (two years ago)

Kids performance at Woodstock 99 is epic and undeniable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsrMqnNxy1o

calstars, Thursday, 8 February 2024 00:30 (two years ago)

I read that and inferred that ZZ Top played in some sort of kids’ tent at Woodstock.

Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 8 February 2024 00:55 (two years ago)

Okay yeah wow that woodstock 99 show is fantastic

H.P, Thursday, 8 February 2024 04:34 (two years ago)

three months pass...

https://heads.social/@theheatwarps/112567672957311842

"Ever wish the motorik 4-bar intro to ZZ Top's "I Thank You" lasted much, much longer? I've given into my darkest impulse by looping that sweet groove for a full 17 minutes.

Folks, it rips. #krautrock #zztop

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 6 June 2024 09:57 (one year ago)

I would like to express my gratitude to you for posting that.

pplains, Thursday, 6 June 2024 13:26 (one year ago)

Oh my goodness, that track is perfect.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 6 June 2024 14:27 (one year ago)

excellent

brimstead, Thursday, 6 June 2024 14:46 (one year ago)

the tail end of the crash cymbal at the loop point is kinda sick

c u (crüt), Thursday, 6 June 2024 14:55 (one year ago)

nine months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTYc6G1BZGM

"I was there, I saw him! I was on my way home from work. The same street musician, the owner of the guitar, had been there a couple of days. This day ZZ Top had embarked on a nearby hotel - The Kämp, the best hotel in town, and was going to have a consert the same evening. Bill decided to go for a stroll and noticed the street musician and he asked him if he could borrow his guitar. It was amazing and most people didn't noticed him or didn't know who he was. Bill played for about half an hour before he handed over the guitar to its owner."

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 24 March 2025 22:56 (one year ago)

six months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FgShtvyfVw

Nicholas Raybeat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 12 October 2025 00:14 (seven months ago)

four months pass...

Soundboard of ZZ Top in Kansas City March 8, 1980
https://ijwthstd.blogspot.com/2026/03/zz-top-kansas-city-mo-1980-03-08-sb.html

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 9 March 2026 07:10 (two months ago)

This rules.

wipes chooser (unperson), Monday, 9 March 2026 13:55 (two months ago)

Many thanks, hoss

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Monday, 9 March 2026 14:46 (two months ago)

perfect for monday morning at the office

dream mummy (map), Monday, 9 March 2026 15:11 (two months ago)

aw yeah

Serfin' USA (sleeve), Monday, 9 March 2026 15:36 (two months ago)

Man, this show already starts off great and just keeps ripping harder

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 9 March 2026 23:31 (two months ago)

I have a plane flight tomorrow and I’m really looking forward to rocking out to this on the trip.

cinematic hobo hip-hop rock ‘n’ roll blues-jazz soul-review (Dan Peterson), Monday, 9 March 2026 23:56 (two months ago)

Thanks so much, Elvis! Have you listened to any of those others? Just now downloaded the Alice Coltrane-McLaughlin-Carlos-friends, may come back for more (Kinks live in '72, for inst).

dow, Tuesday, 10 March 2026 02:17 (two months ago)

I can hear an electric piano during "Cheap Sunglasses". How did that work? Did they have someone backstage to add occasional keyboards?

Vast Halo, Tuesday, 10 March 2026 13:34 (two months ago)

dow, I've been following that blog in my feedreader for about a year. I really can't take anymore "law battery cassette recorder in audience pocket" recordings, but somehow that blog has been posting above average stuff along with the ZZ Top soundboard. It's freaky because I think they're were based in Los Angeles/Southern California so I often see recordings of shows I was at - Robyn Hitchcock at Rhino Records, the Geraldine Fibbers with Nels Cline - what a show and hfs someone caught a recording of that?

Pre-Eliminator live recordings are pretty scarce (Bill Ham's invisible hand?) and soundboards are uncommon, but fingers crossed that whatever shakes loose will get archived and not just trashed as their kids don't want it.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 13 March 2026 08:51 (two months ago)


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