"he raps over 'true' by spandau ballet on DISC TWO at which point i took it out and threw it in the bin"

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combine this with the apocryphal killa cam freestyle over "breakfast at tiffany's and we've got a vertiable trend!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

so what other soft rock/pop moments should rap be sampling?

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

That intro from "74-75".

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I was thinking the other day that "You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby" would make a great hip-hop chorus for some downtempo thug malarkey.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i forgot about the gunnerz sampling "rich girl" too

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

"What A Fool Believes!"

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember some rapper had Darry Hall sing the hook of "Sara Smile" and change it to "Ghetto Smile" back in the '90s.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"eye know" to thread of course too

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

does PE's "He Got Game" count?

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"Money For Nothing"

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, there's about fifteen possible hooks there.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard an atrocious track that used a sluggish "She Blinded Me With Science" sample a few weeks ago. I think it was Mobb Deep.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not soft rock, but I've always wanted someone to sample the Buzzcock's "Why Can't I Touch It?"

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Hasn't Cam'Ron got a track with "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" utilised?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:32 (twenty-one years ago)

dude that mobb deep track is hot

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I only heard it once but that track is walking around with a full diaper.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Tupac has that Bruce Hornsby one, right?

― chuck, Friday, 17 September 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

yup.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

What does "Eye Know" sample?

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Steely Dan's "Peg." I actually heard the De La track first!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

It also samples "Dock Of The Bay" for the whistle.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

De La stole the idea of sampling Steely Dan from Nick Lowe.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh I guess I did too since I haven't heard "Peg" AFAIK. Does another song on the album sample "Rikki"?

xpost: That's where that's from? Cool!

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I thank God for Nick Lowe whenever friends bitch about unimaginative samples in rap tracks.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:41 (twenty-one years ago)

There was a TWO DISC version of the first P.M. Dawn album?????

― Mr. Policeman, Friday, 17 September 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

(jess, you do know "set adrift on memory bliss", right? what's with the "disc two" thing in your quote?)

― Mr. Policeman, Friday, 17 September 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Puffy and Beck were gonna collabo over "Bennie And The Jets."

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Supposedly Diddy didn't appreciate Beck's attempts at Kool Keith-style raps about desinger jeans though.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

DJ P and Z Trip made this great pre-bootleg bootleg (i.e.: five years ago or so) track where they mixed the Eagles "I Can't Tell You Why" with BDP's "Why Is That," but I don't know if that counts or not.

― cchuck, Friday, 17 September 2004 21:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Let us not forget Lord Tariq and Peter Gunn

― oops (Oops), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard the Thomas Dolby sample track out this week and it was HOTT!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 17 September 2004 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)

the "disc two" in the title is the new NELLY btw

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

is it the same hook as "Set Adrift"?

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

mf doom samples quincy jones and james ingram's '100 ways'

― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

actually most everything mf samples is soft rock or lounge-ish

― JaXoN (JasonD), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i don't know anthony, the quote in the subject line is via ronan

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

sounds like it

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

nelly broke the RULES!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Ronan's telling!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe Nelly was sampling P.M. Dawn?

― Mr. Policeman, Friday, 17 September 2004 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

is this like p diddy "sampling" the fugees sampling enya

― jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Nelly feat. Spandau Ballet

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 17 September 2004 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Nelly renames self to N. Lilly

― Mr. Policeman, Friday, 17 September 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

KENNY G - "SONGBIRD"

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Friday, 17 September 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

MF Doom sampled Steely Dan too! ("Black Cow" on "Gas Drawls".) Also keeping Becker & Fagen in new shoes: 3rd Bass ("FM" for "No Static") and Organized Konfusion ("Green Earrings" for "Walk into the Sun").

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Saturday, 18 September 2004 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

'theme to a summer place' should be looped with 16th note hi-hats and a half-time feel (a la kanye's 'we are the champions' beat)

― jake b. (cerybut), Saturday, 18 September 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember some rapper had Darry Hall sing the hook of "Sara Smile" and change it to "Ghetto Smile" back in the '90s.
-- manthony m1cc1o (anthonyisrigh...), September 17th, 2004.

That is B-Legit the Savage, E-40's cousin.

― Pinkbismuthcuddie, Saturday, 18 September 2004 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

does nelly attempt the falsetto part in the chorus, jess?

― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 18 September 2004 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

There needs to be a hip hop track that samples "Boys of Summer" to complement the punk-pop and trance-pop versions. I imagine it as a Ja Rule comeback track (he's already sampled "Africa") or possibly a Cam'ron affair.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 18 September 2004 06:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Juelz Santana has a terrible song that samples "Fat Bottom Girls" by Queen. Can Dipset get any cornier??

― scg, Saturday, 18 September 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope so!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 18 September 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

MUSICAL PREDICTIONS 2004 - i'm still waiting.

― m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 18 September 2004 12:06 (twenty-one years ago)

there's also a kanye remix of maroon 5 which i guess counts

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 18 September 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

That "yeah yeah yeah" break in Starpoint's "Get Your Body Up" should be sampled by somebody.....

― JTS, Saturday, 18 September 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

The worst offender though, has to be Louchie Lou and Michie One who rapped over Lulu's "Shout" in 1993, and somehow got it to No.7 in the charts.

― JTS, Saturday, 18 September 2004 12:51 (twenty-one years ago)

The Eagles - New York Minute
Pink Floyd - Money

― mzui, Saturday, 18 September 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

oh! oh! Jay-Z's "You Belong To The City" feat. Blackstreet!

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Have any of you guys ever listened to the Diplomats album!? Shit is a cult-rap classic

"We Built This City" samples (you know what) and they cut it so it just says "We built this city on rock!"

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

the first decade of the 21st century in rap will be known as the decade of groan-worthy cocaine puns

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

someone needs to make an Eazy-Listening-Duz-It CD-R mix.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm on it!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

also that title has just admitted you to my personal pantheon

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Speaking of Kanye....Jay Z and he speed up a, gasp, Michael Bolton track called "Maybe It's THe Power of Love" on Kanye's "Never Let Me Down".

Can any Bolton fans tell me if this whole track is any good? Then again, talkin' bout Bolton is dangerous territory on this thread as I can't stand him but Kanye does a commendable job with this sample I think.

― herbalizer12 (herbalizer12), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

That's prolly the best track on College Dropout!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Well minus that whole awful spoken word part.

― djdee2005 (djdee2005), Saturday, 18 September 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

The imaginary "Steel Bars" rip by Ja Rule floating around in my head is officially the worst song of all time.

― manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 18 September 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

"They're like, 'Hey now, you're an all-star!' ... "

― Dare, Saturday, 18 September 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

haha yeah but if only NORE actually SAMPLED "all-star"!!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 18 September 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Shoulda been the remix.

― Dare, Saturday, 18 September 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

But the real answer should be Godley & Creme. That plodding bassline on "Cry" is just begging.

― Dare, Saturday, 18 September 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure if this is going to make the final CD (I reviewed the leaked copy when everyone thought the album would drop in July or something), but there's a track on Talib Kweli's Beautiful Struggle that samples the Police's "Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic". Police sampling is not unprecedented but holy shit, man.

― alfalfa romeo (natepatrin), Saturday, 18 September 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, Dipset loves weird whitebread samples. Diplomatic Immunity also has a WINGER sample. and "Around My Way" (the Kweli track with the Police jack) was originally a Jim Jones song.

― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 18 September 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

and yeah "Around My Way" is gonna be on the official version of Beautiful Struggle. the "Eleanor Rigby" sample didn't get cleared, though.

― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 18 September 2004 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Not soft rock or pop, but the intro to 'Enter Sandman' would make a great hip hop loop.

― Wooden (Wooden), Saturday, 18 September 2004 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been filling up notebook pages and text files with ideas for (mostly classic rock) songs I want to cut up into loops someday when I get around to buying a sampler. a lot of them I know would sound great but would be unusable as rap beats unless I had access to someone on a big label with the budget to spare on ludicrously expensive licensing fees.

― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 18 September 2004 16:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Gino Vanelli's "I Just Wanna Stop" is begging for this resurrection badly.

― Mr. Policeman, Saturday, 18 September 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Has hip-hop's Beatles' obsession from a few months back ended then?

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Saturday, 18 September 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

If you played all the songs The College Dropout samples in a row, it would almost sound like an average hour of soft rock radio.

― Symplistic (shmuel), Saturday, 18 September 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

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