TS: bloc party vs. outfield

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somewhat reminiscent...

noizem duke (noize duke), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

a friend of mine now says its more like the get up kids (?!) tho

noizem duke (noize duke), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:06 (twenty-one years ago)

You know? You're not the only person who's mentioned this. Supposedly, "The Pioneers" resembles "Your Love"... but I don't hear it.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh, interesting. I shall give an ear to "The Pioneers" tonight or something.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Replacing "We promised the world...etc" with "Josie's on a vacation far away" is do-able, but it's really big stretch.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I've never heard Bloc Party, and many people have suggested that I'd like'em, but if they're anything like the Outfield, I've immediately lost interest.

If I remember correctly, the Outfield were big during my freshman year of college (85/86). I remember driving to my roommate's home in Cleveland for some random holiday. My roommate introduced me to some friends of his: "this is Alex, he's kind've a music jerk." "Oh yeah?" says one, "do you like the Outfield?" I had to confess that I hadn't heard of them. "Oh, DUDE!" was the reply. He literally walks to the jukebox (this exchange was happening in a pizza place), and puts on the song about Josie being on a vacation far away, and starts air-guitaring to it accordingly, looking at me -- expecting zealous approval ala "ISN'T THIS THE GREATEST MUSIC EVER RECORDED?"

It wasn't. It isn't. It's awful. They suck.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

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granted you sort of have to be in the proverbial 'next room' but its unmistakable

noizem duke (noize duke), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Fear not, Alex. You'd probably hate Bloc Party anyway, but not because they sound anything like The Outfield.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Alex, to me Bloc Party is like the influences the Killers bring to bear done more enjoyably. As I think Matt DC noted, it's something about the drumming...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, the drumming is fantastic (and very well recorded).

There's some charm about the band too. They don't seem half the assholes that The Killers et al do.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Thursday, 3 February 2005 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

"tulips" has some guitaring that kind of reminds me of long fin killie

artdamages (artdamages), Friday, 4 February 2005 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

though i am hesitant to make such a comparison

artdamages (artdamages), Friday, 4 February 2005 02:36 (twenty-one years ago)

They don't seem half the assholes that The Killers et al do.

Are the Killers assholes? Their guitar player needs a fuckin' haricut, but beyond that, they seem alright.

Another thing that bothered me about the Outfield was that here were four British guys who seemed to be aspiring to sound like typical Yank middle-of-the-road rock like fuckin' Jefferson Starship. I mean, they're British -- and here they were in the mid-80's when fellow British bands like The Jesus & Mary Chain, the Cure and the Smiths (among many, many others) were making some AMAZING music -- and here they were basically aping Mr.Mister. I just couldn't get my head around that.

Also, they named themselves "the Outfield" to sound EVEN MORE American. Ugh.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 February 2005 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Incidentally, I'm aware that the Jesus & Mary Chain are technically Scotish, but you get my meaning.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 February 2005 03:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently they were really into baseball, which makes me like them.
And, there were plenty of British bands making middle of the road music then, too.

I really like your story upthread. what a great mental image: some dude air guitaring to the outfield in a pizza parlor circa 1986.

Magic City (ano ano), Friday, 4 February 2005 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)

what pizza place had outfield in the jukebox?

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 4 February 2005 03:37 (twenty-one years ago)

And, there were plenty of British bands making middle of the road music then, too.

Yeah, you're right -- Level 42 springs to mind. But it just seems like the Outfield were really earnest about it.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 February 2005 03:38 (twenty-one years ago)

what pizza place had outfield in the jukebox?

A pizza place near the Cedar Point Amusement Park outside of Cleveland, Ohio....in 1986.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 February 2005 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Another thing that bothered me about the Outfield was that here were four British guys who seemed to be aspiring to sound like typical Yank middle-of-the-road rock like fuckin' Jefferson Starship. I mean, they're British -- and here they were in the mid-80's when fellow British bands like The Jesus & Mary Chain, the Cure and the Smiths (among many, many others) were making some AMAZING music -- and here they were basically aping Mr.Mister. I just couldn't get my head around that.

Also, they named themselves "the Outfield" to sound EVEN MORE American. Ugh.

I totally understand. The Outfield could so easily be thought of as Asia's kid brother or something, couldn't they?

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard two songs from Bloc Party on the Peel Festive 50 show. I don't think they're actually too bad. But I haven't made a final judgement as of yet.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, at least Asia had some ridiculously pompous proggy flair (or on their first album, at least). The Outfield, meanwhile, seemed to want their music to be played at Midwestern amusement parks and the like -- they wanted to be slick, edgeless, prefabricated mall pop. Fuck, they made Wang Chung sound like X-Ray Spex.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 February 2005 07:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I'm not sure about the Wang Chung/X-Ray Spex part, but other than that, I'd say you're speaking some pretty heavy gospel, there.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Friday, 4 February 2005 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

how anyone could dislike "lose your love" is beyond me.

they wanted to be slick, edgeless, prefabricated mall pop
and they did it to near perfection...

john'n'chicago, Friday, 4 February 2005 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Who Bloc Party sound like often = Adorable!

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Pioneers doesn't sound like Your Love other than the fact that there's a passing similarity between the Bloc Party chorus and the opening line of Your Love. Everything else is different and the vocals are delivered in a totally different way.

Pioneers is quite Cure, I think.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, Alex, Bloc Party are closer to the three bands you mention upthread than anything by the Outfield. The bombastic American thing just isn't there.

There's a bombastic English thing instead ;)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

OTM nabisco

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah well, here's Pioneers for comparative purposes, if you're interested.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:45 (twenty-one years ago)

(They don't sound like the fucking Killers either)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

"A little something about The Outfield
A trio of Tony Lewis (vocals), John Spinks (guitar) and Alan Jackman (drums), Outfield formed in the East End of London, England, in the mid '80s. However, all of their success would come in the USA. Signed to Columbia Records, they recorded the bland but proficient pop rock debut Play Deep in 1986, which included the successful radio single "Your Love'. As a result the album rose to number 9 in Billboard's US charts and achieved double platinum sales. A second collection, Bangin', was released a year later and reached the US Top 20 and went gold. However, afterwards the group's career hit a downward spiral. The group followed their Columbia Records" boss to MCA Records in 1990 but the move failed to revive their flagging career. Jackman later played with After Hours."

noizem duke (noize duke), Friday, 4 February 2005 18:58 (twenty-one years ago)

how anyone could dislike "lose your love" is beyond me

Sweet Christ, it's the worst music in the world.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 4 February 2005 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Who Bloc Party sound like often = Adorable!

Really? That good? That's a pretty mighty claim, you know - Adorable never did a single thing wrong in their entire career, and not many bands can say that. I've listened again to three of their songs now, including Pioneers, and I don't think they sound like Outfield or Adorable. As far as I'm concerned they seem to be better at getting a good riff or beat going than coming up with songs to match. I'm just not convinced they're a band I can get really excited about.

And no they do not sound a DAMN thing like the Killers.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 5 February 2005 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

it's the worst music in the world.

What about Scout Niblet? or Digable Plaes? or Michael Jackson's Dangerous? Or Slow Jamz? Or Joss Stone's 'You Had me'? Or...?

Surely, at minimum, "Lose Your Love" is better than all these (except "Slow Jamz", which is another song I just can't see how anyone could dislike).

john'n'chicago, Saturday, 5 February 2005 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

it's the worst music in the world.

What about Scout Niblet? or Digable Planets? or Michael Jackson's Dangerous? Or Slow Jamz? Or Joss Stone's 'You Had me'? Or...?

Surely, at minimum, "Lose Your Love" is better than all these (except "Slow Jamz", which is another song I just can't see how anyone could dislike).

john'n'chicago, Saturday, 5 February 2005 03:19 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry for the double post...

john'n'chicago, Saturday, 5 February 2005 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Good point. I don't envy the work ahead of a band whose goal it is to make music worse than Scout Niblett's.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 5 February 2005 05:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I don't think the Outfield is the worst music in the world, either. But in retrospect, they do seem pretty contrived.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 5 February 2005 05:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely, at minimum, "Lose Your Love" is better than all these (except "Slow Jamz", which is another song I just can't see how anyone could dislike).

Well, it's a figure of speech, really. Admittedly, I think I would rather hear the Outfield than Joss Stone's "You Had Me," and I'd rather eat from a fly-attended sack of my own filth than ever have to listen to Scout Niblett again, but this is not to say that I'd ever want to voluntarily subject my ears to "Lose Your Love." Michael Jackson's Dangerous.....hmmm, well, I just hate the guy, but it's at least got a bit more groove and funk than the Outfield. The Digable Planets were just so infuriatingly pretentious, but -- like Jacko -- at least they had a bit of groove to them (though I'm glad they stopped making music). "Slow Jamz" is fuckin' awful, though.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 5 February 2005 05:27 (twenty-one years ago)


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