Rolling 2006 Metal Thread

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Because now that I'm editing a world music magazine, I find myself physically needing to hear Incantation some days.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 2 January 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago)

New Decapitated album next month. I can't wait.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 2 January 2006 03:02 (nineteen years ago)

Random thought:

I've been listening to Mirand Sex Garden's "Fairytales of Slavery" lately, and it sounds like something out of the world of "post black metal." Last time I heard the album, some years ago, it never occured to me that it was a bit on the metallic side, but hearing it again it sees pretty metal. I suppose at the time it would have been considered Swans influenced, but now I can't help but to think it sure sounds a lot like Beyond Dawn. Not terribly surprising.

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Monday, 2 January 2006 04:16 (nineteen years ago)

er Miranda

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Monday, 2 January 2006 04:24 (nineteen years ago)

What do metallers think of the folky/drone stuff with black metal influences like Dead Raven Choir/Wolfmangler/D.Smolken and Angelblood?

BM is stuff i've never been into but for some reason I like the above bands. Same with th BM influence of the new album by Sunn o))), I like that too. Then again I do like Sunn o))) anyway.

Oh and I liked that Lurker Of Chalice album.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 2 January 2006 04:27 (nineteen years ago)

DRC's black metal stuff (most of which seems to be on the recent vinyl box) definitely crosses the line to where it may as well just be some pseudonymous french dudes fucking around in a basement. if you like that stuff you should get on SLSK and look for some of the french les legions noir/black legions noise stuff like moevot, vzaeurvbtre, the black legions projects comp.

angelblood's got good songs here and there on their first two, their last real cd release was great and more consistent (i'm attributing it to the orthrelm dude playing guitar, even though orthrelm irritates the shit out of me).

as for the rest of the "ha ha let's dress up and play black metal" stuff like the 'funeral folk' collective, haven't heard them. don't think i want to.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 2 January 2006 09:19 (nineteen years ago)

Listened to the s/t Candlemass disc this morning, which I pretty much ignored last year. Now I know I was right to do so. The riffs are convincing Sabotage ripoffs, but the vocalist sounds like Ian Gillan circa Perfect Strangers, which just totally undercuts the doominess of the Candlemass rep. None for me, thanks.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 2 January 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

The riffs are convincing Sabotage ripoffs, but the vocalist sounds like Ian Gillan circa Perfect Strangers, which just totally undercuts the doominess of the Candlemass rep.

Messiah's vocals have always been the best part of the Candlemass sound. That album was probably the nicest surprise (for me, anyway) of 2005.

a. begrand (a begrand), Monday, 2 January 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Before we get started on a whole let's compare great metal to 70s rock thing again this year, let's take a moment to discuss truly important matters like what t-shirt you all plan on being buried in.

http://sammath-naur.blackmetal.it/modules/catalog/images/hellhammer-sh.JPG

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Monday, 2 January 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

can 2006 become the year of Wrest? i hope he has some more tricks up his sleeve but until then Lurker Of Chalice still has me in a headlock.

I hope Nortt will do something as well, tour for instance

rizzx (Rizz), Monday, 2 January 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

>what t-shirt you all plan on being buried in

There are only two choices:

http://www.blastitude.com/6/pettibon-elvis.jpg

or

http://www.ebtm.com/content/ebiz/ebtm/invt/mastp0026/mastp0026_l.jpg

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 2 January 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.dickdestiny.com/surren.jpg

George the Animal Steele, Monday, 2 January 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

The new Decapitated is excellent. Kinda funky, like they've been listening to a lot of Messhuggah or metalcore. Even though dude's feets are still a blur.

Also, Angelblood is a really bad joke. They're the reason I don't do drugs, because I wouldn't want to accidentally find them interesting. There's one song where they open with "I AM THA HUNTA!" but it's not the Bjork song. Like, why?

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Monday, 2 January 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

does anyone else think the Earthride album is the gayest metal album ever released? Seriously, it's like a parody of masculinity. It's like Down injected with testoserone boosters or something. I like a few songs by them, but that singer makes me LOL.

who cares wins, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

A black metal album I got into via the Aquarius site is Make a Change... Kill Yourself (s/t). Kind of a dumb name, but they definitely capitalize on the melodic drone aspect of BM that I like. They even have some euro sounding chick doing echoey spoken word in some songs. I haven't taken the time to figure out what she's talking about, but it's an interesting approach. Some of their chord progressions almost remind me of 2000-era sad/beautiful/ethereal trance music or something.

baked beans (Royal Bed Bouncer), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm enjoying the Deutscher Onkel Tom EP -- Bon Scott Hab Ich Noch Alive Gesehen -- which seems to me, as a very poor man's speaker of Deutsch, to translate, I saw Bon Scott when he was still alive. It's a good AC/DC rip and funny, because you can sing along with the title and a karaoke version is even included. The rest of it is beer-drinking metal, way better than Tankard ever was. Schlag muzik, or music to accompany the hitting of someone, rightly making the inextricable connection between fighting and imbibing. Plus you get "Es Gibt Kein Beir in Hawaii" which isn't exactly true -- there is beer in Hawaii -- but if you're a Deutscher, maybe not the RIGHT beer.

And Lucifer's -666- which is an amateur's work from the voluminous catalog of desparation administered by CD Baby. The title song is excellent, along with "Crush Your Enemy" and a love ballad.

George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 7 January 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

>does anyone else think the Earthride album is the gayest metal album ever released?

I liked it.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 7 January 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

Technical hint for better usage of Rolling Metal 2006. Now that you're reading this, right click on the web page/thread, highlight "Create Shortcut," then click OK. The thread will be on your desktop, bypassing need for ILM search function or someone else to bump up the thread.

George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 7 January 2006 21:07 (nineteen years ago)

can't wait for the new nortt album to be released, i need more stuff like nortt

also, who is who on this pic http://www.decibelmagazine.com/features/jan2006/twilight.aspx

great article about twilight. some hilarious quotes

rizzx (Rizz), Saturday, 7 January 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

While at the Whitney for the Raymond Pettibon and Oscar Bluemner exhibits today (I'd never heard of Bluemner before, but I'm sure glad my wife brought him to my attention) I picked up a DVD by Thorns Ltd. (the drummer for the Norwegian black metal outfit Thorns and two other musicians). It's a souvenir of an installation that was at the Whitney in the fall, by Banks Violette (there was a NY Times piece on it that was linked in the 2005 metal thread, I believe); basically, the music that Thorns Ltd. composed plays while slides of the piece slowly replace one another on the TV screen.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 8 January 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

got the new nortt album! i hope O'Malley listens to it cos this guy should really be on Black 2

rizzx, Monday, 9 January 2006 09:16 (nineteen years ago)

>Deutscher Onkel Tom EP -- Bon Scott Hab Ich Noch Alive Gesehen<

Damn, George, I need to hear this (and Copperhead too.)

I'm experiencing a metal drought so far this year, I think. (I guess Lullacry's new Finnish goth-pop metal album is tolerable, though. Whether it has anything to do w/ metal is another question entirely.)

And I guess I don't hate the EP I heard by these guys:

http://yearlongdisaster.com/

Can't get more enthusiastic about anything than that yet, though.

xhuck, Monday, 9 January 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, the DC Snipers (mini-ish) album is good, too. Do they count as metal this year? Or only punk rock?

xhuxk, Monday, 9 January 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'll get both out this week. Even back-up singers on the Copperhead LP. Plus, you'll have no idea just how good a B3 organ sounds behind ZZ Tops rips on two of the songs.

The Onkel Tom is done by some guy who is in Sodom, a thrash band I never listen to. Half of it is recorded at Wacken, that place where everyone in a US classic metal band wants to play because it's the go to festival gig for audiences that like it. The kind of omnibus show that makes Rose Tattoo kings for a week or a day or an hour or something. Everyone is shouting "Onkel Tom! Onkel Tom! Onkel Tom" which reminds me of the Bose Onkelz, a kind of average Deutsch oi band from way way back. Whatever happened to Slime! I had two of their records. When they were in storage my mom threw 'em out when she lost her mind to dementia, just before she had to be put in a place for the middle-class decrepit. "You told me to do it," she said.

Speaking of RT, also have Doomfoxx which I haven't had a chance to allot attention. Must be slang for Dumbfucks, I suspect, and it's the thing of one of the guitarists from the Tatts. Might be good, could also be wretched. I'll let you know. Claims to have played a few times in NYC.

Others to listen to on the digital pile this week -- Nikki Puppet, Weinhold and Saeka, all of whom seem to be fronted by vimmen. All 2005 or older prospects who just made it to me, again generally only reviewed in foreign language Euro pubs online and off. Saeka's a hot-looking Japanese girl looking like (or maybe not) fronting an Accept-like band of Deutscher ringers.

George the Animal Steele, Monday, 9 January 2006 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

Plus there is the option to listen to Lana Lane doing a symphonic metal version of Macbeth. My fear of the very concept may be a brick wall to listening to it.

George the Animal Steele, Monday, 9 January 2006 22:44 (nineteen years ago)

pdf, i didn't mean it's gay in a negative way. just so utterly macho in the way it approaches its angsty lyrical subject matter. and that guy's voice! they are a tight band and all, but i find myself laughing while listening to it sometimes.

who cares wins, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

So all I know of In Flames is the name and that they've been around a while but the Come Clarity album arrived in the mail today. What's their reputation beyond what the promo guff was telling me? The album seems like it's trying to be three things at once (in my limited sense of things), which is not necessarily a bad thing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 05:34 (nineteen years ago)

(Though admittedly I like the eighties/industrial moves the best.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 05:35 (nineteen years ago)

The album seems like it's trying to be three things at once (in my limited sense of things), which is not necessarily a bad thing.

That's what I like best about the album, there seems to be an even balance between the various styles. Fans bitterly complained that their last album was more mainstream-oriented (I liked it), but the new one dips into the late-90s melodic death riffs more.

a. begrand (a begrand), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 05:45 (nineteen years ago)

I have a fondness for the parts that suggest goth was invented by Def Leppard's "Foolin'", which perhaps it was. (A modern equivalent might be A Perfect Circle's "Weak and Powerless.")

Not being able to compare it to the previous album I can't get a sense of what mainstream complaints there were but personally I'm glad as heck they let wossname the singer step back from hyperscreech at least part of the time.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 05:48 (nineteen years ago)

whatever, how about Kenose eh? that's one scary monster, i gotta tell ya, i would've liked it more if the whole thing would be more like the first track. same with the Twilight album. 'Woe Is a Contagion' is otherwordly

rizzx, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 08:04 (nineteen years ago)

Not being able to compare it to the previous album I can't get a sense of what mainstream complaints there were but personally I'm glad as heck they let wossname the singer step back from hyperscreech at least part of the time.

Yeah, the singer took the more clean, melodic approach, which annoyed the fans who still cling to the band's mid to late-90s albums, as well as going for the goth/industrial/nu sounds you mentioned. I thought Soundtrack to Your Escape was a rather daring departure, but I remember the reaction of fans online was split, they either loved it or despised it.

a. begrand (a begrand), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 08:39 (nineteen years ago)

In Flames's '04-or-so semi-industrial-dance EP where they covered Genesis's "Land of Confusion" was good! They probably improved by selling out, as many bands do. Never heard all that much of their other stuff, though I did enjoy the parts on *Whoracle* where the gutiars reminded me of Thin Lizzy. The singer kinda sucked back then.

chuck, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

i had to do a little write-up on Greece's Black Lotus label and now I can't stop listening to Absolute Steel's WomaniZer album. They are a Norwegian party metal band. i thought they would be anthony miccio's new favorite band, but i think they are mine.

samples here: http://www.absolutesteel.com/

(The "Opus Suite" is some fun, lemme tellya.)

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

This new Dragonforce one, Inhuman Rampage has a pretty novel Night-Ranger-meets-superhuman-instrumental-athleticism thing going on that sounds like the best thing ever for about five minutes. The hyperactivity gets a little mind-numbing after a few numbers, though. A few good tunes on here, LOTS of cool sounding guitar-wankery, but it could use a power ballad and a pseudo-boogie number to break the tedium.

Mike Dixn (Mike Dixon), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

High On Fire's coming to town. Should I go?

Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

Yes.

In other news, The Ocean's Aeolian is much better than Ocean's I Forget The Title, so I think they oughta have exclusive rights to the name from now on. (Just like Esoteric, the UK doom band, oughta cease-and-desist the shitty metalcore outfit The Esoteric right out of existence.)

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

High on Fire have the hugest-sounding rhythm section I've heard live in quite some time.

a. begrand (a begrand), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

*Tracks* by Uncle Billy's Smokehouse (from I guess Worcester, Mass, or thereabouts) is a really solid, melodic, consistent hard rock album - this is what Queens of the Stone Age should be doing. The singer sounds a little like Josh Homme at first (in "God" -- not sure if that means they're Xtns or not; last song is "Quiet Sundays," hmmm), but they move beyond OOTSA real quick; really legitimate '70s rock in a, oh, post-Nickelack context; i.e., it doesn't feel like nostalgia, but you can tell they cut their teeth on stuff that came out a long time before grunge fucked everything up, yet there's no inkling of stoner shtick at all. "Give It Time" is the best guitar jam I've heard in months. "Sunlight Breaks In" and "Just Like Me" are like Guns N Roses crossed with Alice In Chains doing country-rock fit for CMT; the guy's high register actually pulls off its Axl attempts.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

High On Fire's coming to town. Should I go?

Seen HoF twice and the answer is a resounding YES.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

In other news, The Ocean's Aeolian is much better than Ocean's I Forget The Title, so I think they oughta have exclusive rights to the name from now on. (Just like Esoteric, the UK doom band, oughta cease-and-desist the shitty metalcore outfit The Esoteric right out of existence.)

I prefer Ocean - 'Here Where Nothing Grows' myself.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I tried to like that disc, but it just did nothin' for me.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Got The Ocean's Aeolian today, and am very, very impressed. I haven't heard Fluxion, but the Mastodon-meets-Converge-meets-Isis of this disc sounds great. I like how it veers from two minute hardcore tracks to huge nine minute epics.

a. begrand (a begrand), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

Told ya.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago)

Doomfux, cited above, mine AC/DC-Rose Tattoo. The singer is best when trying to imitate Bon Scott, good only about half the time when left to his own thoughts. And his thoughts are tried-and-true woman-hating material, so creepy it often made me laugh. One song has him singing in a sailor's voice on how he's going to lift up his skirt and be a slut for the weekend. One supposes you're to take it as him reflecting on a woman's point of view. Hilarious.

Another top moment is the song about the plan to drug her, fuck her and pass her to your brother, I'm starting on a career of evil, or something. The one right after it, "Abandon All Hope," is the philosophy of having promiscuous sex with all the girls he can while sponging off their assets. He's over the top in trying to convince he's the world's foulest rock 'n' roll dirtbag. And it's more often than not entertaining, although not always for the right reasons. Not a classic by any means, but good for a few weeks and you can remember the song titles and the songs that go with them.

Weinhold's From Heaven Through the Earth To Hell is Deutsch. It's the bag of Jutta Weinhold, someone not at all like Doro. She is said to have once sang back-up for Amon Duul on tours. This, though, is valkyrie muzik, loud and vigorous German power rock. Songs -- "Blues Metal," "Rock of Metal," "Black Bone Song," "Wounded Pioneer" -- so you know they don't give a shit about English language cred und verstehen Sie, although it's all auf Englisch. "Black Bone Song," whatever it's about, is great. Es ist nicht schrechlich, Jutta! Sie sind eine grosse fraulein!

George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

COMING SOON IN 2006!!!
A list by Jaxijin
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/Jaxijin/coming_soon_in_2006___/

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

Aeolian Is a bit heavier than Fluxion actually.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 23:01 (nineteen years ago)

New Albums due in 2006 from:

Aborym
Agalloch
Age of Silence
Anata
Anathema
Ancient Rites
Battered
Bloodbath
Burnt by the Sun
Callisto
Carpathian Forest
Cave in
Celtic Frost
Cult of Luna
Dark Fortress
Darkthrone
Daylight Dies
Dead to Fall
Decapitated
Dimmu Borgir
Disillusion
Dissection
Dødheimsgard
Drudkh
Dysrhythmia
Enslaved
Entombed
Epoch of Unlight
Eyes of Fire
Frantic Bleep
The Gathering
Head Control System [Garm's new band]
Illdisposed
Into Eternity
Isis
Kataklysm
Katatonia
Kayo Dot
Keep of Kalessin
Lacuna Coil
Legion
Madder Mortem
Mastodon
Mayhem
Mercenary
Misery Index
Moonspell
Negura Bunget
Neurosis
Nightingale
Norther
Novembre
Queensrÿche
Red Harvest
Rush
Saturnus
Satyricon
Scar Symmetry
Scarve
Sepultura
Solefald
Textures
Thorns
Thundra
Tomahawk
Tool
Devin Townsend
Type O Negative
Unearthly Trance
Unexpect
Virgin Black
Voivod
While Heaven Wept
Winds
Woods of Ypres
Yakuza
Yyrkoon

also according to link above from Jaxijin

Trouble
Simple Mind Condition (2006)
AVAILABLE MARCH 2006!
The first release from pioneering doom metallers Trouble in 10 years!! Hopefully Eric Wagner and co. will deliver the goods!!

What else is due out in 2006?

What are your top [10] most anticipated releases?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

Ease up on the lists and vaporware. More of what is actually in hand and what it sounds like.

George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

What are your top [10] most anticipated releases?

Right now, it's Trouble, The Gathering, Voivod, Into Eternity, Amorphis, Kataklysm, Decapitated...

I have a morbid fascination with the upcoming Queensryche. Mindcrime 2 could be a trainwreck.

a. begrand (a begrand), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 23:54 (nineteen years ago)

Witchfinder General's archival Live 83 is great. I'd expected a band that couldn't quite get it together "live" and a cassette recording. If it's a cassette recording, it's a great one and the band delivered.

http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2006/06/witchfinder-generals-loved-sex-rock.html

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Friday, 16 June 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

The next album is apparently going to be more in that kind of direction.

next album?! they're going on without piggy?

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

apparently he recorded enough guitar parts for 2 or 3 albums. awfully nice of him.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago)

and i thought of george when i read the press-notes to the new album by william elliott whitmore, a dude who makes deathfolkcountry and who is a FARMER from IOWA. i quote: "For the past year, William has been touring in between harvests..."

How fucking hardcore is THAT!? TOURING between HARVESTS!!! take THAT, bonnie prince billy!!

lots of folks i know in mpls like WEW...he plays with lots of punk bands and stuff from around here...apparently a real nice dude.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

i can't remember if there's formal connection, but i think folks know him up here cuz he ran w/the punk/posthardcore band Ten Grand (used to be called Vida Blue until they sold their name to the dude from Phish for his sideproject for, natch, $10,000)

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'M SURE HE IS THE THE SALT OF THE EARTH!

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

which reminds me, i still haven't listened to his album.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:27 (nineteen years ago)

Practically speaking, it's going to be a game of diminishing returns. Guitars aren't a drum machine, so if you're going to continue to glue a rhythm section and vocals on top of it, it's going to sound artificial or like it's missing something after awhile.

You can do amazing things with beat mapping in software, but you can't manufacture inspiration or the magic that occurs when people compose and play together. That's the way it is. Guitar music isn't just mechanization, not even for Voivod.

a dude who makes deathfolkcountry and who is a FARMER from IOWA

Get him to run on the Republican ticket. Where, where, are you tonight, why did you leave me here all alone? I searched the world over and I thought I find true love, you met another and pffft you were gone. Should xpost to the noise country thread.

Here, busy yourself with something off topic and intelligent. Stretch your brain, the pictures are funny, and hundreds are reading it as we speak -- Assassination by Toilet Paper and The Botox Shoe of Death:

http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2006/06/from-poisoners-handbook-to-botox-shoe.html

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Friday, 16 June 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

So, does anybody have any kind of opinion of these OLD metal records (the first two of which I purchased curiously low-volume-mastered CDs of at The Thing in Greenpoint last month; the last two of which Metal Mike sent me vinyl copies of for free in the mail last month, and none of which I have any opinion about myself yet, though I'll be happy to steal yours if yours sounds good.) If you don't know these specific releases, heck, feel free just to discuss the bands:

Crimson Glory, *Transcendence* (MCA album, 1988)
Metal Church, *Blessing in Disguise* (Elektra album, 1989)
Jerusalem, *Can't Stop Us Now* (Refuge album, 1983)
Rail, "1-2-3 Rock and Roll"/"Fantasy"/"You've Got to Give"/"Hard Girl to Love" (EMI America EP, 1984)
Sampson, "The Fight Goes On"/"Riding With The Angels"/"Vice Versa (Live)" (Polydor EP, 1984)

thanks!

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 24 June 2006 16:18 (eighteen years ago)

If it's Samson '84, that's after Bruce Bruce and Thunderstick were gone, Dickinson replaced by Nicky Moore, a 350 lb. lead singer with a good bluesy voice but terrible image. (Briefly had a band of all over 300 lb. guys called Mammoth, I think.) Moore's OK as a singer but that stuff is pretty average to poor, if it's him on vox. "Vice Versa" was a mediocre cut from their second album, live it just kind of is nothing.

"Riding with the Angels" was a great studio cut when Bruce Bruce sang it on Shock Tactics. I was never sold on it redone with Moore.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Saturday, 24 June 2006 18:21 (eighteen years ago)

Metal Church's Blessing in Disguise is one of the great overlooked 80s metal albums, and it was a real shame it didn't sell as well as it deserved to. I greatly preferred Mike Howe's vocals to David Wayne. "Badlands" is killer.

Crimson Glory's Transcendence was ahead of its time, no question, but there's something about the sound of it that always struck me as a bit cold.

Heh, I remember Rail. "1-2-3 Rock and Roll" was as goofy a metal rave-up as Helix's "Rock You".

a. begrand (a begrand), Saturday, 24 June 2006 21:28 (eighteen years ago)

is it better than girlschool's "1-2-3-4 rock and roll"?

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 24 June 2006 21:38 (eighteen years ago)

oh, and i dig the new gorgoroth album. and i might even dig the new jotunspor album by two gorgoroth dudes even more. it's very cool.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 24 June 2006 21:47 (eighteen years ago)

A. Begrand, in what way do you think that old Crimson Glory album was ahead of it's time? I'm curious -- to me they definitely sound more '80s metal than '90s metal, so I'm not sure what you could mean. Also, I decided I don't like them. They remind me too much of Iron Maiden and not enough of, I dunno, Cirith Ungol or somebody. (Actually, I have no idea what Cirith Ungol sound like, but I like their name.) As usual, I have a higher tolerance for the songs that remind me of Queensyrche than for the ones that remind of me Iron Maiden, but it's not like I'm much of a Queensyrche fan either. But yeah, I agree that they sound cold. Plus also I hate opera singers.

The power metal album I did really like this week was by Warmachine, who are from Toronto, and whose new album is on Nightmare Records.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 24 June 2006 22:28 (eighteen years ago)

chuck, did you get the agalloch album? i can't stop playing it. god, i lovelovelove it.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 24 June 2006 22:36 (eighteen years ago)

that's gonna be my review: "I lovelovelovelovelovelovleovelvoelvoelvoleovleovleolvoelovelovelovelovleovleovleovleove the new agalloch album. A lot!"

but, you know, a little longer.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 24 June 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago)

Cirith Ungol, all you need to know, almost --

Where is the LOVE for Cirith Ungol?

Everyone in Dick Destiny had Cirith Ungol Lps except the drummer. It was back when we ate shoe leather and liked it! Maybe I should do a poor man's entry for them on the blog for Sunday. Maybe not.

So, when's xhuxk gonna discover Max Gelt and the Broadway Metal Choir's And God Gave Us Max!. I actually Had to interview him because he had some feeble local connection in the newspaper's circulation area. And there's still only one or two entries on the entire web for him. Damn.

Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Saturday, 24 June 2006 22:47 (eighteen years ago)

thanks, George. As for Max Gelt, who knows?

xp for Scott, re Agalloch or Agollach as the case may be:

I liked it (though maybe not as much you I guess)! I wrote about it on my MTV Urge blog! My favorite songs were the ones with the '80s AOR-melody diddles sneakily snuck in there - "Falling Snow" and "Not Unlike the Waves," as I recall. (I think I might like those Lacrimos Profundere and Leaves Eyes EPs on Napalm more, though. But the Lacrimos Profundere ALBUM is too much of a ridiculous thing. Sisters of Mercy tributes are much more palatable when kept to EP length.)

My favorite metal album of the year is still by Korpiklaani, however.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 24 June 2006 22:48 (eighteen years ago)

(Well, my favorite metal-that-everybody-would-agree-is-metal album of the year, at least. I'd rank Leanne Kingwell and Huck Johns and Damone and maybe one or two other metal-that-lots-of-people-would-say-isn't-metal albums higher.) (Though by now, some people might deny that Korpiklaani are metal, too! Such people are nincompoops.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 24 June 2006 22:53 (eighteen years ago)

i put in a good word for leaves' eyes in my pan of the new theatre of tragedy album in the new decibel. pretty much my most panniest of pans ever for decibel.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 24 June 2006 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

xp(And oh yeah, Voivod--that's up there on my list too. I wrote a whopping 60-word review of it for Spin, of all places!) (After that, Tyr, Falkenbach, and Pentagram, in some order. If Pentagram count.)

Still never figured out what was supposed to be so great about the Moonspell album, sadly enough. It was fine -- just another okay Moonspell album, no complaints, but still, Scott said it was their best in years, and I still can't figure out why. And Katatonia and Madder Mortem are in the same category; i.e., they sound good when I put them on, but when I don't, I can't remember anything about them.)

Somebody mentioned Knut. I never heard their "actual" album, just their remix one, which struck me as theoretically intriguing for a few minutes, but there was nothing on it I cared about returning to.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 24 June 2006 23:09 (eighteen years ago)

did you read my moonspell review?:

http://www.decibelmagazine.com/reviews/june2006/moonspell.aspx


i just thought it was really powerful in a way that the last three albums weren't. plus, their last three albums sounded like mud. the new one was so shiny and heavy and catchy and all that good stuff. the SONGS are better too.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 24 June 2006 23:16 (eighteen years ago)

i have a feeling that we are the only two people who even care about the relative merits of moonspell albums. here at least.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 24 June 2006 23:17 (eighteen years ago)

i will read that, scott! but the album didn't hit me as powerful at all, to be honest. (actually, i don't know if moonspell has EVER really hit me as powerful. even *sin pecado* and their early albums are more about being beautiful than being powerful, it seems to me.)

some other random metal stuff i've written about on that urge blog:

end records compilation: i decided that unexpect's cut and thin eyes bleed's cuts weren't as horrible as most of the other cuts

invaders compilation: i decided that danava's cut and warhammer 48K's cuts weren't as horrible as most of the other cuts

the gersch: one good track ("residue three"), the rest is expendable

new zao album: one good track ("a last time for everything"); the rest is expendable

also: assorted unknown myspace bands, and sundry other stuff.

and oh yeah: fuck an albatross.

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 24 June 2006 23:29 (eighteen years ago)

>thin eyes bleed's cuts <

THINE eyes bleed's CUT

Virgin Black were even better. Seemed to be off some CD where they collaborate with a classical Australian orchestra, but I never heard said album. (I also had no idea that Australia had any orchestras.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 24 June 2006 23:35 (eighteen years ago)

THERE IS POWER IN BEAUTY, CHUCK!

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 24 June 2006 23:37 (eighteen years ago)

of course australia has orchestras. haven't you ever seen their famed opera house in sydney? i haven't heard virgin black since that album i reviewed for you. i should dig that out.

scott seward (scott seward), Saturday, 24 June 2006 23:40 (eighteen years ago)

You whippersnappers should have been at the Blue Cheer show last night. Or maybe you were, and that's why Scott's YELLING!

Dickie Peterson is still pretty much a frizzed-out hippie rebel. As Dickie leaned against his amp watching Paul Whaley butcher a drum solo, it was easy to picture him slouching against a small-town drugstore storefront in hicksville North Dakota in 1965, like a tough from Born Losers or something. Glad to see a hippie with a lifelong gift for going against the grain. I thought they all bought SUVs like Grace Slick. Anyway, B'Cheer played all of Vincebus Eruptum at deafening volume. I caught glimpses into a bygone era. I appreciate that they fought for my rights before I was born.

Made me want to go read my old issues of Flesh + Bones, too -- godly '80s dirtrocker zine from Jersey that saw the future.

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Sunday, 25 June 2006 00:49 (eighteen years ago)

A. Begrand, in what way do you think that old Crimson Glory album was ahead of it's time? I'm curious -- to me they definitely sound more '80s metal than '90s metal, so I'm not sure what you could mean. Also, I decided I don't like them. They remind me too much of Iron Maiden and not enough of, I dunno, Cirith Ungol or somebody.

No, you're probably right, 1988 was the right time for that album to come out, right when that whole epic power metal thing was starting to gain serious momentum (post-Awaken the Guardian, pre-Keeper Part II, pre-Gutter Ballet, pre-Dream Theater). I can't remember Crimson Glory ever getting the kind of attention those other bands did at the time. I have to listen to that album again.

i put in a good word for leaves' eyes in my pan of the new theatre of tragedy album in the new decibel.

Heh, I'm reviewing the new EP. It's okay. A bit heavier than the last album, which went new-age too many times for my liking, the songs are half decent. I kind of like Liv Kristine's replacement in Theatre of Tragedy.

that's gonna be my review: "I lovelovelovelovelovelovleovelvoelvoelvoleovleovleolvoelovelovelovelovleovleovleovleove the new agalloch album. A lot!"

Currently my third favourite metal album of the year, behind Celtic Frost and Katatonia, just ahead of Voivod.

The new Unearth is surprisingly good for no-frills metalcore.

And I'm finding myself less than enamoured of the new Skullflower.

a. begrand (a begrand), Sunday, 25 June 2006 02:44 (eighteen years ago)

xxhuxx, I just saw you tonight on VH-1's HEAVY The Story Of Metal, or whatever it's called. (Ian Christie, you're in a diffent segment, I think. You write English, but you talk American. You freak me out!)Fun to see the early Metallica footage. Funny when everybody (except xxhuxx and Ian, I think) are so in awe of the metal yet punk yet metal extremo pale horse that is Iron Maiden, behold if ye dare!xxhuxx, do you mean you wrote about the *new* Voivod for Spin--?

don (dow), Sunday, 25 June 2006 07:22 (eighteen years ago)

...in the issue that already came out? PS: so far, I like Brain Surgeons NYC's Denial Of Death very much. And Deborah Frost's voice is totally different than I expected. Thought it would be like her voice as a reviewer, bigger and broadskier. But still, Brenda Lee is comin' on strong. And they all likes to boogie. Maybe I'll put it on my Top Ten Country, with Shack Shakers, Shooter, and Rebel Meats Rebel.

don (dow), Sunday, 25 June 2006 07:33 (eighteen years ago)

"You write English, but you talk American. You freak me out!"

yeah, i originally thought ian was a brit too!

latebloomer aka rap's yoko ono (latebloomer), Sunday, 25 June 2006 07:41 (eighteen years ago)

wait, you mean he's not???

>do you mean you wrote about the *new* Voivod for Spin<

yep

>...in the issue that already came out<

nope. the next one, i think. i wrote three CD reviews for that one, then six (!?) for the issue after that. (hey, i'm suprised, too.)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 25 June 2006 08:10 (eighteen years ago)

Well maybe my idea of an English accent is too limited/brainwashed by Monty Python, Dr. Who, The (original Office, Posh Spice, etc. It's a good appraoch to writing about metal anyway, must steal: "The worrying implications of Mucus McKane take a great leap forward into the bellicose allegories of Blowtorch Assbreath." Nu?

don (dow), Sunday, 25 June 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

there's a new Skullflower? Whats it called?

rizzx (Rizz), Sunday, 25 June 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago)

found that (still new? dunno) Yakuza album on my coffee table under a giant mountain of tossed one-sheets...man I love this band - loved the last album, diggin' this one - the trippy jazz setions get me every time, sorta like the fusion stuff in Candiria but slower. Agree with Whiney on the other thread that the metal parts could be better but the overall effect is spacey in a great way for me

Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Sunday, 25 June 2006 22:14 (eighteen years ago)

And I'm finding myself less than enamoured of the new Skullflower.

xp: which one? orange canyon mind (which was crap) or tribulations or what?

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Sunday, 25 June 2006 23:00 (eighteen years ago)

xp: which one? orange canyon mind (which was crap) or tribulations or what?

Tribulation. A little too formless, no percussion, just an hour-long onslaught of grating, screeching distortion with tiny, tiny hints of melodies buried underneath all the density. I liken it to a badly tuned AM radio...you can hear traces of something, but the static is overwhelming. It's interesting in small doses, especially with headphones (there are a few tracks I really like), but in my opinion, I've heard better from Bower.

I greatly prefer Xaman, Exquisite Fucking Boredom, and yeah, even Orange Canyon Mind.

a. begrand (a begrand), Monday, 26 June 2006 00:01 (eighteen years ago)

I have decided I don't get Skullflower, and don't care. On the other hand, I love love love (not as many loves as Scott, but I'm a generally un-loving person) the new Dragonforce album. I saw their video on Headbangers Ball last week and laughed so hard I almost fell off the couch. During the guitar solo segment, the director shows the two guitarists standing side-by-side and as each guy takes his solo, he gets picture-in-picture with a closeup of flying fingers. Meanwhile, on the main screen, the guitar player who's not soloing picks up a bottle off the floor and drinks, waiting his turn for picture-in-picture fret-burning action. They should play it ten times a night, every week. I can't wait to make my goddamn hippie office-mates listen to it tomorrow.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 26 June 2006 00:56 (eighteen years ago)

Heh, that video is indeed priceless...that picture-in-picture bit is beyond ridiculous, but yeah, I love it. Both DragonForce and Edguy do the mid-80s shtick so perfectly, it's scary. It's like I'm 15 all over again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7_JafYlMY8

Does this buzz around DragonForce mean we're in for a big power metal revival in North America? It's so popular in Europe, but there haven't been signs of the same thing happening here, until recently.

There's a band from Omaha called Cellador that does the Helloween shtick quite well, including a singer who matches Kiske step for step.

a. begrand (a begrand), Monday, 26 June 2006 01:56 (eighteen years ago)

i have been doing my part to stoke the flames. i can't help myself.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 26 June 2006 02:06 (eighteen years ago)

I saw Cellador's video this week. They're not bad, but I wonder if their singer is balding under that stupid do-rag he wears.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Monday, 26 June 2006 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

should we start a part two for this thread? it's getting kinda hefty. even with high speed and "show last 50 answers" thing set on my computer it takes a while for it to show up. i'll leave it up to phil. he started this one.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:44 (eighteen years ago)

Crikey, they musta dubbed me voice, wot!

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Monday, 26 June 2006 15:53 (eighteen years ago)

the verses of "through the fire and flames" sound like "the thunder rolls" by garth brooks.

robbie mackey (robbie mackey), Monday, 26 June 2006 18:54 (eighteen years ago)

I think it's time for a new thread, yeah.

pdf (Phil Freeman), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 13:36 (eighteen years ago)

most definitely.

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

frank kogan theorized once that "the thunder rolls" sounds like "18 and life" by skid row

xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 15:00 (eighteen years ago)

okay, then someone start one. and a moderator could lock this one. YOU HEAR ME UP THERE IN YER IVORY INTERWEB BUBBLE??? LOCK IT UP!

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 15:04 (eighteen years ago)

cool:

Rolling 2006 Metal Thread, Part 2

scott seward (scott seward), Tuesday, 27 June 2006 15:09 (eighteen years ago)


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