Dear Mr. Wagemuffin

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Dear Mr. Wagemuffin:

I don't think we should continue to bandy-about the word "rockism" without going to the source.

From one of Simon's RIU&SA footnotes, with Wikipedia link added by me:

"rockism"

As used first by Pete Wylie in Wah Heat! Feature in NME, 1/17/81.

Paul du Noyer's piece addresses Wah! Heat's "race against rockism" (geddit?). Wylie says words like "album" are rockist and declares that Wah! are against all the deadening rituals of the gig, the encores, etc. "If rock is dead then we're not a rock band. If rock has the potential to be an exciting, inspirational thing, then we are… It's rock as a ritual that's the bad thing, when it's not done out of love or passion, when it because that's what you're used to doing". Yet Wylie's favourite band was The Clash and Wah!'s sound and stance was totally epic-guitar rocky!

A great contemporary example of Wylie-defined (bad) rockism is Rock Star: Supernova, or that other reality show, Supergroup — bunches of "rockers" trying to sustain/enhance their market viability by clinging dearly to a gamut of tired, but still annoyingly market-viable, clichés.

When Bill Haley and Big Joe Turner recorded their respective versions of "Shake, Rattle and Roll", they weren't trying to rock, they were trying to swing. Same goes for early recordings of "Good Rockin' Tonight", etc. It was a gradual transition to where "to rock" became a contemporary synonym for "to swing", then overtook it.

The song I chose for the "Ace of Spades" thread (the Tight Bros' "So Sneaky") doesn't just rock, it, too, swings. (As does Aerosmith's "Back in the Saddle", IIRC.)

Coleman Hawkins, John Coltrane, and Art Pepper have recorded great renditions of "Body and Soul" in different eras, but whatever the many differences in their respective recordings, people tend to agree that it's all "jazz". Why can't we do the same with "rock"?

My introduction to rock (beyond Top 40), back in the 60's, came from a older cousin whose record collection had Smokey Robinson and the Miracles side-by-side with Sly Stone, Cream, and Jefferson Airplane. My introduction to the blues came from early-electric Dylan and Peter Green and Beefheart; there isn't a world of difference between Beefheart's "Sure Nuff" and Rufus Thomas' "Tiger Man" (an early Sun Records single) and the millions of other variations on the "Rollin' and Tumblin'" riff over the past 50-60 years. The differences are something to enjoy and celebrate, but they shouldn't be compartmentalized into marketroid-apartheid boxes named "blues" or "soul" or "rock" (or "race music"); they're all branches of the same family tree. I don't have to choose between Rockpile's or the New York Dolls' variations on Chuck Berry versus the original article — it's all good, and it's all rock.

We're really talking about music with (usually) a 4/4 beat that induces positive visceral reactions; there are regional and generational variations, but it's really all part of the same continuum, one that includes Louis Jordan and Count Basie (whose orchestra at one time included Big Joe Turner, and whose 50's sets sometimes included rock/R&B material) and Funkadelic and Sly & Robbie and Timbaland, just as much as the artists in your "13 essential albums". I think you will derive much enjoyment, over time, from exploring this continuum. I think you will, at various times, nod your head, bang your head, move to the groove, get busy one time, dance to the music, and rock out.

Just sayin'.

NP: Art Ensemble of Chicago, "Tutankhamun"

[And, once again, I hope this shit is valid HTML.]

A. Rockist (mark 0), Friday, 22 September 2006 10:50 (eighteen years ago)

Like Rock itself, Rockism has evolved. Maybe initially Rockism was meant as an insult, but then again so was the word 'punk' and so was the word 'niggger'. But in both cases those being insulted have taken the word as their own, embraced it and brilliantly manipulated it so that both words are now no longer insults.
It is my intention to do the same with Rockism.

God Bless American!

Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann), Friday, 22 September 2006 12:25 (eighteen years ago)

even *I* rejected his myspace add friend request

-- Wrinklepossum's Awesome Blossom (wrinklepaw...), September 21st, 2006. (Wrinklepaws)

mango selassie (teenagequiet), Friday, 22 September 2006 12:29 (eighteen years ago)

http://my.opera.com/IrGXaNa/homes/albums/19701/I%20Give%20Up.jpg

mark 0 (mark 0), Friday, 22 September 2006 12:38 (eighteen years ago)

…although I would add the suggestion that you test out this hypothesis about "niggger" being embraced positively by repeating it, over-and-over, fortissimo, for about eight hours, while standing on 125th Street in NYC.

mark 0 (mark 0), Friday, 22 September 2006 12:48 (eighteen years ago)

GO AWAY MUFFIN MAN

Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Friday, 22 September 2006 13:01 (eighteen years ago)

http://img15.imgspot.com/u/06/264/10/17893L1158934246.jpg

Dedicated to Jaggers Who Do Drive-Bys (noodle vague), Friday, 22 September 2006 13:15 (eighteen years ago)

xcellent

mango selassie (teenagequiet), Friday, 22 September 2006 13:16 (eighteen years ago)

although "god bless american" is kind of funny

mango selassie (teenagequiet), Friday, 22 September 2006 13:17 (eighteen years ago)

Maybe after you rehabilitate rockism you can rehabilitate the term "cunt-dumpster." As in, "Mr. Ragamuffin you are a cunt-dumpster. You are like an open receptacle for all the used-up, dried-out vaginas people have thrown out, all stuffed into a bin now full to bursting with cunts so they come out of your mouth every time you speak."

Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 22 September 2006 13:49 (eighteen years ago)

mango selassie

marry me

any cop (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 22 September 2006 14:32 (eighteen years ago)

Wagamuffin, please don't go away, you're extremely entertaining. You might even, at some point, learn how to spell the n-word.

No, seriously though, thank you, PEW, for standing up for Rockist Rights. The police made me drink from the rockist water fountain today, and it was humiliating. Mostly because it tasted like Keith Richards.

adam j (In Place of Something Clever), Friday, 22 September 2006 15:40 (eighteen years ago)

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/bands/gadfly.jpg

a|ex (Pareene), Friday, 22 September 2006 15:52 (eighteen years ago)

No idea where this thread is going, but great first post.

todd (todd), Friday, 22 September 2006 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

LONG LIVE ROCKISM!!!


There--someone had to say it, for christ's sake...

Paul Edward Wagemann (PaulEdwardWagemann), Friday, 22 September 2006 21:23 (eighteen years ago)

Army of one

Marmot (marmotwolof), Friday, 22 September 2006 21:29 (eighteen years ago)

"Albums"

http://www.carlosmb.com/supplies/a10.jpg
http://www.carlosmb.com/supplies/a12.jpg
ihttp://fieldwoodhs.ednet.ns.ca/slim-album-p114a.jpg

and PappaWheelie, author of Have You Ever Been Poxy Fuled? (PappaWheelie 2), Friday, 22 September 2006 21:31 (eighteen years ago)


You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.