c/d, s/d: rising high

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rip caspar pound.

been listening to the different volumes of "chill out or die" and "further self evident truths" a lot lately, as well as early wagon christ + irresistible force + air liquide + bedouin ascent and related things. probably has something to do with living around my old college again and the fall weather. probably get back into jungle sky at this rate.

anyway, the best "german" electronica label of the 90s?? (probably second to force inc, but still!)

also, do i need to do "secret life of trance" next? how about "techno injection"? i always steered clear of them when i was in college (i was a breakbeat snob at that time, so what, so was carl craig) and then when i veered back into 4/4 around the time i found out about "high in a basement" and faze action and stuff i decided i had to distance myself from the label.

HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 04:35 (eighteen years ago)

also probably there is already a thread on this but i am getting poxyfuled by the search function tonight so sue me.

HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 04:36 (eighteen years ago)

Jungle Sky the label? I don't think that's ever been mentioned on ILM

todd (todd), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 05:34 (eighteen years ago)

Ah, Rising High. They should have never have hooked up with Moonshine over here, frankly.

Wagon Christ and Irresistible Force I'm still good with. Mixmaster Morris was a friendly guy, met him a couple of times, and I think...yes, here's the Vibert interview I did around the time of Throbbing Pouch.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 05:37 (eighteen years ago)

b-b-b-b-but!!!

"further self evident truths usa" turned me onto the black dog!! "pillars and mirrors"!! and it had the junglist "reedin (redone)" remix that he did before he became plug!! if only it had "spotlight (aphex remix)" it would have obviated the need for that shitty "avantgardism" comp!!

"chill out or die USA" wasn't as good but it did have air liquide's "if there was no gravity", which is just the most incredible piece of zero-gee ambient house ever. or it was, until eight miles high came along.

HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 05:41 (eighteen years ago)

The US comps had their points, yeah, but I think some of the Moonshine connection just unavoidably slimed them somehow. At least John Aube didn't mix the damn things (I think).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 05:42 (eighteen years ago)

Ned: I found that there's no way to really describe Pouch to anybody. It keeps changing styles along the way. Is there any way that the type of music you create could ever be accurately described, or ...?

Luke: Totally! I think bedroom music is the one

did he let you touch his beard??

Luke: God, I don't know. I don't understand it, really, because I just don't feel like that at all. I think that with synths you can make really nice sounds. There's old Detroit stuff, which was the first synthy stuff that I really decided to get into, Derrick May and all those geezers

vibert in listening to detroit shocka!! i had no idea he had it in him!!

Ned: What in general would you like to do musically in the future?

Luke: Definitely rap stuff. I'd love to take a bigger back seat and have my name totally obliterated, not on it at all, to just be a producer of some kind of rap

shame he never did!! there was a little bit of stuff on big dada that i remember was *great*!

HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 05:45 (eighteen years ago)

hey!! weren't you the one who was saying a few months ago that moonshine comps were actually BETTER than the euro equivalents because you they cherrypicked the tracks and you had a higher hit/miss ratio??

HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 05:45 (eighteen years ago)

air liquide's "if there was no gravity"

Okay, you're making me nostalgic for this one, at least, and I don't know what disc I've stuffed it onto. Need to finally get those hard-drives up and running.

Further I still have around, though. I'll probably put it on after the New FADs disc I'm playing is done.

did he let you touch his beard??

Phone interview. His beard was unscathed.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 05:46 (eighteen years ago)

weren't you the one who was saying a few months ago that moonshine comps were actually BETTER than the euro equivalents because you they cherrypicked the tracks and you had a higher hit/miss ratio??

Hmm, maybe? Except that doesn't sound like me because at the time I was mostly aware of stuff *only* through the Moonshine discs rather than the equivalents overseas. Mind you, selective memory might be at work.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 05:47 (eighteen years ago)

maybe you were talking about old jungle comps. or maybe it was jess or tim.

HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 05:48 (eighteen years ago)

the version of "if there was no gravity" i am talking about is on "chill out or die USA". i think it's different from the version on the air liquide album and it's different from the version on "secret life of trance 3".

HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 05:49 (eighteen years ago)

Fiddle, that one I don't have, then. I'm pretty sure.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 05:50 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway, Vahid, use the Google search from here on in:

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/thread.php?msgid=1568331

http://ilx.wh3rd.net/thread.php?msgid=4591194

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 05:53 (eighteen years ago)

Grr.

rising high records

Caspar Pound RIP

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 05:54 (eighteen years ago)

A Homeboy, A Hippie & A Funki Dredd!
i didn't know Caspar Pound was dead.
rip

zappi (joni), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 05:55 (eighteen years ago)

that robin + gareth rising high thread should die

HUNTA-V (vahid), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 07:16 (eighteen years ago)

weirdly - only this morning i was checking out the 7 Hurtz album, electroleum, and thought, damn this is like Irresistible Force .. i should dig 'global chillage' out!

i didn't get as much rising high releases as i should have ...

mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 10:13 (eighteen years ago)

"Throbbing Pouch" is one of the most overrated "classic" 90's albums. Yes, parts of it are great, and the idea of "DJ Shadow humping Aphex twin in a dark corner of an easy listening rave" (or whatever Melody Maker called it at the time) is appealing. It's just such an airbrushed take on funk -- far too polished and cutesy for its own good. And it could stand to lose 20-25 minutes, easy.

"Church of Extasy" is so fucking great, even today. Too bad all the remixes sound exactly the same.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 10:28 (eighteen years ago)

(i was a breakbeat snob at that time, so what, so was carl craig)

as in he only liked shut up and dance?

stirmonster (stirmonster), Wednesday, 1 November 2006 23:22 (eighteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
come on, tell me about "secret life of trance". there are seven volumes, each has at least one track that makes it look like it's worth it no matter what the other tracks are like ("sound Enforcer - re-enforcement 7 (russ gabriel mix)" ... whoa!!! rare early wagon christ! whoa!!!)

what about "rising high techno classics"?

what about "rising high progressive hardcore"? (hmm this has irresistible force on it ... ??!?"

HUNTA-V (vahid), Sunday, 19 November 2006 22:12 (eighteen years ago)

i would pick harthouse over rising high for best german trance label of the 90s though that's probably the canonical (less interesting?) choice and also i'm pretty ignorant of a lot of the rising high output except for the comps already mentioned here. i have an air liquide single or two and the irresistable force albums which are both classics.

have you ever heard this comp vahid? is it blasphemous to discuss r&s on this thread? seems like there was a lot of cross linking going on between a bunch of these labels at the time.

i have been listening to [las vegas] a lot lately and i am pretty convinced that it's probably the best album (my favorite) to come out of this era of ambient house/trance/techno. i think it has something to do with favoring pop over dub techniques, but that's oversimplifying things because there's plenty of dub going on in it too. there is something timeless about it.

josh. (disco stu), Monday, 20 November 2006 00:15 (eighteen years ago)

funny, i just (about an hour ago) bought the hypnotist's "pioneers of the universe" (1993) for $1!

philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Monday, 20 November 2006 00:49 (eighteen years ago)

there is something eerily similar to what was happening then versus what is happening now. the early german trance seems very relevant to me anyway. the rushy syntax has just changed a bit. and then there's sven vath.

josh. (disco stu), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:01 (eighteen years ago)

thirteen years pass...

"further self evident truths usa" turned me onto the black dog!! "pillars and mirrors"!!

Except as on the UK edition it's actually Otaku by Atypic (from the same EP.) Love this track.

There's slightly less Vibert on the UK version, instead you get an excellent Bedouin Ascent remix of RHC and Electronic Dub's Electronic Dub 2 which has such a great spooky space vibe.

1995 specifically is a weird indulgent interegnum for non-denominational electronic stoner beat music. I guess some of this is the start of drill and bass (or actually what Mixmaster Morris was trying to dub 'fungle', and thank fuck that never caught on.)

Kieran Arse (Noel Emits), Thursday, 1 October 2020 19:37 (five years ago)

"fungle"

haha.
nope, never heard that.
phew.

mark e, Thursday, 1 October 2020 19:43 (five years ago)


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