The idea that things like 9/11 happen just because people are "malformed little psychopaths" strikes me as very dangerous indeed.
Of course that's not the only reason, but it's the one factor that a certain group of people seemed determined to ignore.
-- "C" (charlamagneti...), Today 12:47 PM. (Holey) (later)
Are you proposing a War Against Psychopathy?
-- Why does my IQ changes? (noodle_vagu...), Today 1:05 PM. (noodle vague) (later)
A War Against Psychopathology don't you mean? ;)
-- "C" (charlamagneti...), Today 1:09 PM. (Holey) (later)
Either way. You're still fucking stupid.
-- Why does my IQ changes? (noodle_vagu...), Today 1:10 PM. (noodle vague) (later)
It's not a question of ignoring it, "a certain group of people" just believe that people don't live in a vacuum and that if they're malformed little psychopaths, trying to change the conditions that caused them to be same would seem a little more constructive than cursing at dead men.
(xposts)
-- Daniel_Rf (filosofiaebolacha...), Today 1:13 PM. (Daniel_Rf) (later)
Why am I fucking stupid, noodle? Because I don't try and explain away mass murder as being nothing more than the product of poverty and alienation? Does that make me a right-wing neocon in your book?
-- "C" (charlamagneti...), Today 1:20 PM. (Holey) (later)
Well yeah.
-- Why does my IQ changes? (noodle_vagu...), Today 1:21 PM. (noodle vague) (later)
If (mass) murder were really the product of poverty and alienation then wouldn't all poor, alienated groups of people throughout history have been doing it - in whatever ways they could've?
-- Konal Doddz (stevem7...), Today 1:40 PM. (blueski) (later)
Sure, but you'd have to have your head very far up your (or Robert Fisk's) arse not to see that there are some extremely evil fuckers among Al-Qaeda and the Taleban. As for kids in Beeston and High Wycombe that enter into all this, the picture is obviously far more complicated and difficult.
-- "C" (charlamagneti...), Today 1:51 PM. (Holey) (later)
(sorry that was a reply to Daniel)
-- "C" (charlamagneti...), Today 1:52 PM. (Holey) (later)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 17 September 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)
People are insdisiously evil shits; it's not really a mystery!
-- Young Fresh Danny D (djperr...)
Is this belief naive? And also, does the whole 'I felt depersonalized by the crowd's behavior... I'd never say that on my own...." like sound a little specious?
-- Vacillatrix (rem...)
At least 50% of human interaction is based on cruelty. People do not help each other without some level of self-interest, whether that manifests in tangible or intangible rewards; furthermore, the negotiation of balancing the individual's need to satisify his/her id with society's expected standards of behavior is a constant process of refinement and reassessment. Expecting people to be nice to each other or to have each other's interests in mind is not only naive, it is an open invitation to get used and abused by most of the people you meet.
-- Young Fresh Danny D (djperr...)
i think most people are relatively good and most of the 'evil' comes from behavior they don't know is cruel. but there is seriously mean shit that occurs. not to dredge it all up, but i remember a classmate of a certain poster who seemed pretty vile.
-- gear (speed.to.roa...)
Dan otm, this is something I've quickly learnt, yet, conversely, that knowledge has improved my life no end. :-D
-- Space Gourmand (papiermachealamphibia...)
>People do not help each other without some level of self-interest
I'm calling BS.
-- Squirrel_Police (goblinatri...)
― and what (ooo), Sunday, 17 September 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)
one month passes...