Chicago: When Someone Rides Free We All Pay!!!!!!!!!

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I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

nigga i done did it

EsteBAN LOUIS JAGGER (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

Please Ban me, thanx.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

But the thing is, this thread doesn't say Chicago!

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

*sigh* It should. Make a mod request to change the title to "Chicago: When someone rides free, we all pay."

It's what they say on the buses!

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

I'm never going back to NO

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck this thread.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Where can I get one of those jackets?

a naked Kraken annoying Times Square tourists with an acoustic guitar (nickalici, Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

I'm despondent now.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

I, for one, love the opening photograph.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

I googled Big Shoulders!

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.seiu1.org/images/chicagoconweb.jpg

This is from googling "the city that works".

I thought that was a corrupt alderlady up top.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

yet another day that won't end but in an entirely different way. anyone up for coctails tonight?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like this thread.

BUT.

I'm having dinner with my mom at Marigold (new Indian restaurant) tonight. I'm in a pickle because it was her birthday a couple weeks ago and so I was planning on paying for dinner, even though she usually pays. But then this morning I was thinking about it and realized I don't really have that kind of money to spend, because she'll want to get wine and dessert, and it'll be at least $50. So I said, maybe I'll just get her an iTunes gift certificate instead.

Cool, right? So then she calls me this morning and leaves me a voicemail (I was on the train) that says, "Are we still on for tonight? I don't have any ideas about where to go, so I'll let you decide, since you're treating me." And I was like wha? Did I accidentally tell her that I had been planning on treating her? I don't know why I would've done that, since my plan all along was to surprise her by picking up the check when it arrived. So now I don't know whether I'm obligated to pay for it or not. I'm hoping maybe I just misunderstood what she said on the voice mail. I already bought the gift certificate, anyway.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:24 (nineteen years ago)

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Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

Yr screwed.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe my brother told her...?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

It's your MOM. Get over it and buy the nice lady dinner.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

How's Madison, Amateurist? I'm moving to the near east side in a few months, most likely.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

Chris, I totally would, but after the last few years of just spending money willy-nilly and never balancing my checkbook, I've been evaluating my finances lately and noticing a rapid decline in my savings. So I'm probably being a little more assiduous than usual lately about not spending too much money.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

it's your mom. she'll probably be understanding if you explain. and you did get her a gift certificate...

Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, my mom is usually understanding. I don't know if I should wait until the check comes and see what she does or if I should just say something straight-away. (I'm still hoping I misunderstood her.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh: I just listened to the voice mail again: she says, "...I think you're taking me out, but I'm not sure."

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

I would go with "It's your mom, and so this isn't the place to be more assiduous than usual, you cheapskate." Nick, of Nick and Nora, works at Marigold. Let us know how it is, John.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 22:19 (nineteen years ago)

BUT LISTEN UP FUCKERS! I have two important announements:

1. If you come to our front gate and want to get inside, dial 29 on the keypad and hope that Jeff is home since that goes to his cell phone. We don't actually know how to open the door with the phone, but we'll at least know you're there.

2. My graduation from law school is May 20, 2007. There are no tickets, so if you want to suffer through the ceremony, come on along. I am also having some sort of party, hopefully planned by someone who isn't me. So save the date, because after that, you won't see my ass until the beginning of August, after I take the bar.

JENNY OVER AND OUT.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)

I skipped out early on my high school graduation festivities and didn't go to my undergraduate graduation because I was too cool for all that but this time I'm taking more of a "This sucked too hard not to clearly and publicly mark the achievement in some way" point of view and it's all important to me and stuff and junk.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 26 September 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with Jenny agreeing with me. You don't save money by not being generous to your mom (or your friends or other loved ones), you do it by cutting back on moneys you spend on yourself. Only be cheap to mom if it means you won't make rent.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 00:03 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever, dudes. I gave my mom the gift certificate, and then when the check came, she was all, "Let me get this one. I know you talked about paying, but you already gave me a present, and this is a lot more money to you than it is to me." I sheepishly said that I'd been worrying about it, in fact, and she gave me a pitying look and said, "Oh no no, you shouldn't worry about it, it's really nothing." She was very happy with the gift certificate.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 01:08 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, I don't think I'm being a cheapskate just because I decided not to spend $65 (including tip) on a birthday gift! I don't think I've ever spent that much on anyone for anything. My mom recognized that it would've been extravagant.

The food, btw, was delicious. Nick did not serve us, though. Some kooky middle-aged ditz was our waitress. She grinned maniacally and said things like, "Ohhhh, isn't it gooooood?" and "You guys are so funny!!" -- even though we hadn't said anything. Then she did a "Psst, see those two ladies over there? One of them ate all of her lamb vindaloo! I don't know she did it, it's really spicy!!"

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 01:18 (nineteen years ago)

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A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 01:23 (nineteen years ago)

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Saints Spirit.

His face reads "Who Dat," as in "Who dat? Who dat? Who dat say they gonna beat them Saints!"

I'm Sorry For This Thread (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, that is so great.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 03:41 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight was fun. I finished my Flann O'Brien book, took a nap, went to the gym, met some dudes for wings, and then popped over to a jam session and played some second-line. Couldn't ask for anything more.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 03:51 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, you book club could read For Common Things: Irony, Trust and Commitment in America Today.

John, you could save yourself money by taking your mom out to any of the bars that offer dollar burgers on Tuesdays.

I found another band interested in covering a full LP, probably d'Angelo's Voodoo.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 04:55 (nineteen years ago)

Which Flann O'Brien? I've read At Swim Two Birds and another one (Dalkey something?), both of which were pretty great.

I just finished the newer Peter Carey novel, Theft, which was really good. I think I need to read a bunch of his other books, since Illywhacker was good too.

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:26 (nineteen years ago)

Kinda pathetic: I'm so Excited* about my mini road trip to Baton Rouge that I woke up at 5 and couldn't go back to sleep so I finally just got up and started getting ready.

I'm gonna go for a jog, getting some coffee and hitting the road at 7.

*WTF? Am I James Frye now?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 09:55 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, I just read At Swim-Two-Birds, I really liked it. The Third Policemen is one of my book club ideas (and I will check out the books that you guys mentioned).

I found another band interested in covering a full LP, probably d'Angelo's Voodoo.

What is this for? 'Cause I would LOVE to cover Voodoo.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

I decided not to spend $65 (including tip) on a birthday gift!

can we change the name of this thread to "Chicago: I'm Not Gonna Pay A Lot For This Mother"?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

HA!

Jenny, you will see everyone between May 20th and August whatever because The Wedding is June 2nd. Attendance is mandatory! YOU WILL HAVE FUN! AnD DANCE!

http://www.makelovenotdebt.com/images/bridezilla.jpg

John, I can't believe you've never spent more than $65 on a gift!? Of course, I'm no model for good budgeting seeing as how I'm tens of thousands of dollars in debt. The pastor we'll probably pick for our ceremony suggested that if either of us has any debt, we should try as hard as we can to pay it off before we get married. If I listened to him, I probably wouldn't be able to get married for another 20 years.

Also, Jesse, I LOVE that photo.

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

You're worried about dipping into your savings to pay for your mom's birthday gift? Your mom dipped into her savings to buy you a BIRTHDAY, dude.

(note: i am not really "outraged" about this or anything, but seriously, if you're going to dip into savings, Mom is a good reason to do it.)

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

What is this for? 'Cause I would LOVE to cover Voodoo.

The idea of putting together a regular night of bands covering entire LPs beginning-to-end. If this gets rolling, you should bring one of your bands to town and do it.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:48 (nineteen years ago)

John, I'm amazed you have savings. That is commendable.

I wish the Ice Factory would host our album covering project. Then it could become a monthly event (with different bands each time). Speaking of IF, Crap Eng1ne is breaking up.

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

John, I'm amazing your mom is hip enough to appreciate an iTunes gift certificate.

The album covering idea is great, too bad none of my bands would really fit. The rock band doesn't really do covers. The Kid Jordan Second Line (my new traditional jazz band!) was started to cover a whole album, but it's so obscure that no one would care

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

John, I'm amazing
Jordan, are you feeling particularly self-confident today? :-D

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, you should still cover that album. The fact that it's so obscure is part of the charm of the project.

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, whoops.

It would be cool to take that band to Chicago since our saxophonist lives there and my friend Scott could play bass, but we would need a local dude who can play New Orleans piano.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

John, I can't believe you've never spent more than $65 on a gift!?

When would I have ever done this? I mean, I think last Christmas my brother and I spent somewhere in that range, probably a little bit more, on each parent, but that was split between the two of us. Unevenly, since he's a student, but still.

I'm still feeling weird and guilty about the whole thing, especially because of some of the responses I got on this thread. And then Kr said something about how she would've paid for the dinner because she feels like she owes her parents for helping to put her through college. And I was just like, "Huh. That's never occurred to me." I mean, obviously I'm grateful that they did, and I know that not all people are so lucky, but I've never considered that I was forever in their debt or anything -- they've certainly never made me feel that way.

Did I mention my mom makes like four times as much as I do?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

And your mom has house payments and car payments and raised two children already and put them both through college and has to save for her retirement.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

GRRRRRRR.

(btw, I would love to cover a whole album, but a) C4n4st4 would probably take like two years to actually do it, and b) the only thing we'd be able to agree upon is some middlebrow crap like Flaming Lips or whatever.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck all of you. Seriously.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

John, it will be OK. I'm sure your mom loves you just the same. She understands. Maybe next time - Christmas? - you could spend slightly less money on beer for a couple of weeks to save up money for a nice present.

As someone whose parents did not help her out with school, I often find myself annoyed with kids who don't seem entirely grateful of said help. It really puts you ahead of the game to start out into the world as an adult without miles of debt. SO APPRECIATE IT! Love, me

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

Fine, you guys win, I'm going to write my mom a check for $1000 tomorrow, better?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

It really puts you ahead of the game to start out into the world as an adult without miles of debt.

I really, really appreciate it.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

i'm taking john's mom out for lunch tomorrow, anyone want to come with? my treat.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

note: offer not open to john.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

Look, I appreciate it, too! I've seen my friends live from paycheck to paycheck and am glad I don't have to do that, too. But is the only way I can show my appreciation by shelling out money that will deplete my finances more than it will hers? I mean, just because I don't have debt doesn't mean I'm Mr. Moneybags over here. And I can't imagine ever making as much as either of my parents within my lifetime.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

Goddamn, I'm trying to do a good thing here.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

When Mom rides free we all pay.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

Still curious how I would've ever spent more than $65 on a gift. Do you guys do that routinely?

I am trying to think of things I have spent more than $65 on, period -- besides rent and bills.

Computer
iPod
Keyboard
Sofa
Coffee table
Hotel room
Car maintenance
External hard drive
??

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Sometime when you're a little flush, take her out somewhere really nice.

When I got a salaried job (after years of scraping by), I took my folks out to a few fancy dinners in CA. It was a time when I was thinking that they didn't know much about what I was doing in Chicago, or didn't understand the creative stuff I was doing, or whatever, but, in a superficial way, if friends of theirs asked them what they were up to they could say "Well, Eric took us to the French Laundry."

Only trouble was that the dinner ended up being talking about the cost of it much of the time.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

Also more than $65:

Suit

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

I don't buy $65+ gifts every day, or even on a regular basis! But at Christmas, that's about my average range per family member and I have certainly gone over that on occasion, like the pair of Frye motorcycle boots for my rockstar ex. Which were worth it, cos they made him two inches taller.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

Plane tickets

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Booze + cabfare?

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

I guess most of my gifts for parents have been around or less than that. DVDs, cooking stuff, pet stuff.

Gifts for girlfriends, definitely more.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) Not on a single night, E. And I'm talking about single items/services.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

You've never spent that much on a girlfriend or lady friend, John?
As Laurel said, I tend to spend that much per sister/parent at Christmas time and I tend to spend more on Nick for bdays/Christmas.

Anyway, I'm sorry I went off on the school loan thing. I know I'm just jealous.

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

Best mom present EVER, in the history of the Universe throughout time: ~$60 in flower bulbs, delivered to her door. The only way I could top it would be to buy more of them.

John, I don't think you're cheap.

xpost: And shit, I spent a couple hundred bucks on those pearls last year for my gf for xmas, and look where that got me... :(

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) Wow, so I'm just a total cheapskate then?

I was used to that label in high school but thought I had moved beyond it, and certainly in the last few years I haven't worried about money all that much, but if I keep up my extravagant ways, I'm going to be in a lot of trouble soon. Three years ago, I had more than twice as much money in the bank as I do now.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Expensive gifts: dvd box sets, massage gift certificate, cookware, jewelry (uh, engagement ring), fancy dinners, etc.

xpost, flowers OTM

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

When would I have ever done this?

This is the first time I remember noticing John say the sort of phrase that people who imitate John always say! But I can't tell how ironic it is.

Things I have gotten for my mother that cost over $65:

* Painting
* Dinner + night at opera

Those were both in the $150 area. But in many ways those presents have come during especially flush years (not that they were THAT flush, but flush enough) and were somewhat in thanks for years when I was totally broke and couldn't do anything.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I just spent $148 on a book. A calculus textbook. Grrrr.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

HEY i dont post here often so WHATS Up folks.

this thread reminded me i forgot to schedule my loan payment last month. Then I accidently scheduled a payment for tomorrow for both this month and last, meaning i'm about to drop a bunch of cash i don't really have! And once again i scrape by to the next paycheck.

Anyway, I don't think I've ever spent a huge amount on gifts but I've never really had the money to (until...well, not now, but after the next paycheck, maybe). By brother and sister's birthday is in a couple weeks and so far all I've got is a $6.99 copy of the Wang Chung soundtrack to To Live and Die in LA

if anyone has any gift suggestions for two 21 year olds that don't involve corny booze-themed concepts let me have them.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

I usually only spend that much on gifts for my parents and Dan and maybe one or two times on a friend for a really special present, like a plane ticket to visit or something. But that's because I enjoy spoiling people I love.

I'm a big cheapo too, but I think (for me) part of showing my parents that I'm a Big Girl Grownup was taking them out to dinner for the first time. Picking up that tab made me feel like I was finally an adult. It seems silly, but it's a symbolic way to show that while I may not be at their level of wealth yet and won't be ever, but I'm doing OK and making good enough decisions to be able to take my parents out. I guess it's my way of saying "Look! I'm not a fuckup anymore!"

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Seconded, 'manda, re: picking up a dinner.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

You've never spent that much on a girlfriend or lady friend, John?

No. I celebrated a couple of birthdays and Christmases with Kelsey, but we were both in college or just out of it, so neither of us had that much money to fling around. I think I bought her a PJ Harvey CD for her birthday in 2000. I don't know how much the John Cage box-thing she bought me cost. Otherwise, we made each other stuff, did nice things for each other.

I didn't celebrate anything with Renee.

For Kr's birthday this year, I bought her a new hardcover book she'd been wanting. And we went to Ravinia. Tickets were free via a friend of hers, but she'd been talking about wanting to go.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

Deej, I think the To Live and Die in L.A. soundtrack would be a good gift for a 21-yr-old as well. You get to be the cool old fuddy-duddy - our generation's equivalent of an uncle, when we were little, buying you or I a Country Joe & The Fish record.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Deej, are your brother and sister TWINS??

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

I reviewed the Wang Chung To Live and Die in L.A. soundtrack for my high-school newspaper.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

I was also the guy, in high school, who never bought birthday cards from stores and always made my own with markers and colored pencils and stuff -- not because I was too cheap to buy a card, but because I thought it was more meaningful.

On the last several birthdays and Mother's Days, I've made my mom a mix CD -- which cost me, what, a dollar for the blank CD? -- and she's said they're among the best presents she's ever gotten. I would've done the same this year, but I thought it was becoming predictable.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

if anyone has any gift suggestions for two 21 year olds that don't involve corny booze-themed concepts let me have them.

the correct answer is hookers and blow.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

John, I understand the idea of not wanting familial/romantic love to have some dollar equivalent. And if you've got family or girlfriends who are hyperaware of money in these situations (as you are, as I've been sometimes), the handmade/experiential gifts are a good choice.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

I understand the "meaningful gift" thing too -- it's not like I equate dropping benjamins with love. I make presents and have routinely made presents since forever. BUT...

It's different with parents. Also, when you routinely make shit, buying a fancy present sends a different message. It means "I sacrificed something for myself because I wanted you to have this" and it's not the money, it's not the present, it's the fact that you sacrificed in order to get it without having been expected to or asked to or anything. See?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Deej, you could make mix cds. My fam is always begging me for them because they think I have this inside secret source to great music. Or... make something!

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

That was an xpost. Great minds think alike.

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

oh man, x-mas is going to be expensive this year. y'all are making me feel GUILTY.

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

So financial sacrifice is a bigger deal than taking the time and consideration to make something just right? My mom would always go on about how she was touched that I went through and selected the songs on the mix CD just for her. And Sarah spent HOURS upon HOURS making those sock monkeys.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

Start making monkeys, evan!

John, maybe it just depends on the parents. My mom goes on and on about how she loves it when we make her things. My sisters tend to do artsier stuff, like making collages and painting planters.

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.wangchung.com/archive/wc/albums/images/chungpk.jpg

I wonder why I live alone here
I wonder why we spend these nights together
Is this the room I'll live my life forever
I wonder why in LA
To live and die in LA

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Amanda, I don't know why it's different with parents. Surely they're going to be more moved by the love you put into something than almost anyone?

(xpost) Yeah, I agree, Sarah.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

my sister knit my dad a x-mas stocking one year, and i think it was the best present he'd every gotten.

another thing: my dad's the kind of guy who, if he wants/needs something, will just go ahead and get it. he's impossible to shop for. my mom, on the other hand, will forego getting things just so the rest of us can "find out" that she wants/needs it.

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Personally, I prefer "To Live and Die in LBI".

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

No, I'm not saying this is ALWAYS true or must be ALWAYS observed. It's just that for a special time, a special gift, sometimes spending the extra dough says something extra. That's all.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

It's different for parents because they have given me so much, I often feel the need to show them that I appreciate it. My parents are not my peers.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

i wish i had dough :(

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

I need something new to make this year. Ornaments are played out, so I don't want to go that route. I was thinking of making a Christmas album where Nick and I record all the songs. Corny? Definitely. I still get the fam "real" gifts too, but I think the diy ones are more meaningful.

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Absolutely, there have been years when I didn't get presents for ANYONE, because I was unemployed and fucked.

Mistake: straw-man assumption that money vs personal meaning is a zero-sum game. It's not. It's life! Sometimes awesome, meaningful things aren't cheap or free! And my parents sacrified their wants and needs in order to clothe us, feed us, and allow us to have good experiences as kids -- my mother didn't buy clothes or cosmetics or nice things for herself for twenty years and she was often deeply embarrassed at her inability to look as nice as her peers, for instance, but she still made sure we had winter coats/field trips/swimming lessons. Buying her beautiful things now, especially since I'm in NYC and have access to luxury items that she doesn't, is the least I can do to buoy her self-image.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

jaymc, i have a rav. hookup as well if you need the tix

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

(or anyone else i suppose)

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

is the least I can do to buoy her self-image.

i just tell her that her grey hair looks distinguished

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

In conclusion, IT DEPENDS. :-D

I love the knit scarves my sister Leslie and Nick's sister have made for me. I tried to learn how to do it myself for my own gifts but failed miserably.

In other news, who wants to guest on my Christmas album? Jooohhhhnnn? You could play some nice bell-sounding keyboards. I think I'll do the whole thing in Garage Band, with a mix of original and traditional songs.

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Kr made the same point about parental sacrifice, and am I just an idiot for not being aware of this? I can't imagine my dad living any differently if he had kids to pay for or not. And my mom is definitely more extravagant now than she used to be, but her income is also greater now than it ever has been, so I don't necessarily chalk that up to the kids being out of the house and college payments made.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, still thinking: my mother is a DO-ER. She does for others and puts herself last, in expenditure as in all else. (I'm not saying that's necessarily a good idea, as a life-strategy.) When I scrimp elsewhere to provide niceties for her, it uses a language that she already understands to say that she's as valuable to me as I have always been to her. Obv this is a personal thing and not a universal one, but I think there's something like it underlying a lot of people's feelings about approaching our mothers as adults.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

F. Fictions - Real Xmas

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

i'm gonna learn to knit!

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel OTM. On the Mommy.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, what Laurel said.

I don't have enough time to do it up right as a FF album. Plus, Ben would have to pull a Streisand.

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

oh man, x-mas is going to be expensive this year. y'all are making me feel GUILTY.

not me man, barring the inexplicable this will be the first year since 96 or 97 without a girlfriend at xmas. my sisters and i don't spend a lot of money on each other, we much rather prefer to get one another something completely rediculous (like the rooster shaped alarm clock that cock-a-doodle-doo's when the alarm goes off) to anything practical. shopping for my folks is hard because i don't talk to them often enough to know what they want or need.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

The Xmas album is a great idea.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

I can't imagine my dad living any differently if he had kids to pay for or not.

This isn't entirely true. He's gone to India, Mexico, and Scandinavia within the last couple of years. But on a day-to-day level, he's still going to be watching a small TV on an old sofa wearing clothes from Lands End until he kicks it.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Re awareness of parental sacrifice: I dunno, John. Maybe your family was better off than mine, or maybe having fewer kids makes a big difference (well, obviously) or maybe our families just spent their money differently/had different expectations.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I really think all of this comes down to a) how much money your parents have vs. how much money you have, and b) the relationship you have with your parents. Which aren't universal. And so I've been resenting the way some of you have been treating them as such, but I have, too, since I brought the whole thing up as a matter of discussion.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

and c) the relationship your parents and you, as individuals, have with money.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

this is an interesting conversation. i've been broke plenty o' times & so defaulted to homemade gifts a lot. last year, i actually bought people things, but there was still a diy spirit to it. i had a photo that my dad took of me on a trip to FL framed & i think he loved it. i knit my mom this sweet little neck scarf but then also bought her a smattering of misc. things. i nearly always give my brother some alcohol-themed gift (this past year: sailor jerry shot glasses), clothes, or money. he's still in school so anything goes over quite well.
my dad is the hardest to shop for b/c like e's dad, he'll just buy himself stuff when he wants/needs it. this has resulted in my brother & i buying him gift cards to hardware stores & i think we went halvsies on a massage once. he's hard to shop for!
but as for the taking your parents out for dinner thing... i understand why john didn't pick up the tab, but it would've been a nice guesture to do so. bottom line: no big deal. that said, i have yet to buy my parents dinner, but that time is upon me. leaf & i are talking about what to get them for all their work on the wedding planning front + they're paying for my plane ticket to visit in october so i would like to maybe take them out then as well. now that i have a job where the pay is decent, i feel like i can actually pay off some debt & pick up the tab once in a while!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

And I guess, c) your family's general attitude toward money.

XPOST!!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, this could all be solved with a little...

http://www.lybrary.com/images/money_magic.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

This is why talking about money is a bad idea.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

My parents didn't seem comfortable at all when I took them to the French Laundry and Chez Panisse - some combination of being intimidated by the surroundings and being too preoccupied with the idea of experiencing the meal to actually experience it, and conversation about the cost of the meals and whether it's justifiable. So when a gift - whether it's a Curb Your Enthusiasm DVD or a mix CD or a long visit with them - doesn't make them think of money, it seems like it can be received with less distraction.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

I'm surprised that there aren't more movies and plays about money and our subjective relationship with it. We could have a money film festival: Glengarry Glen Ross (this would be great for the Dan M. Cinematheque), Friends with Money.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

that's a great point, EZ. my parents get uncomfortable when they feel as though we've 'overdone' it. i can relate to that.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

xpost I don't think that movie was about money. Unless you're talking about a different movie, in which case I don't know what you're talking about! :)

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Are you thinking of Heist? ("Everybody needs money, that's why it's called money!")

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

I guess Glengarry's more about work than money. American Buffalo is all about whether an old nickel is worth a nickel or fifty bucks, and whether it's worth committing a crime to get it.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

I got myself a present last night. One of these:

http://gallery.rei.com/media/203562.jpg

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

i think if you take time and consideration and make a gift, that can mean a lot. one year for my mother i went through and organized my parents' whole photograph collection, which was this disaster of a mess dating back to 1969. then i found pics of me at different stages growing up, and similar ones of my sister, and arranged them into two frames. i had the frames shipped to my sister's, where we hid them until after my parents had gone to bed christmas eve, so the big package under the tree was a big surprise.

my mom cried, it was really sweet.

i've tried making her mix cds, but i never get them quite right anymore. mix cds are wonderful presents though if you're decent at making them.

Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

You know, it just occurred to me, I'm a lot more conscious when I'm at dinner with my dad (and he's paying) about whether the restaurant is too expensive -- we went to Trattoria No. 10 a couple months ago and he was like "hmmmm, maybe I'll just get an appetizer and a soup" (even though the restaurant was his idea) -- and I totally make sure he's left enough for tip and am prepared to leave extra if he hasn't. We go to the movies sometimes and it's now at the point (it was an unspoken shift a few months ago) where I pay for my own ticket.

But that's because a) my dad has always been cheap, and b) I've heard him worry about his retirement fund, post-divorce, esp. since he makes considerably less than my mom does. So I feel more inclined to buy him dinner sometime in the future. But I also know that the meal won't be as extravagant as it usually is with my mom.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

i've tried making her mix cds, but i never get them quite right anymore.

same here, i always go overboard with the motorhead.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

money/gifts/parents can be a really weird issue. i feel guilty when my parents spend too much on me, or the times when they've taken me to really expensive restaurants or whatever. i know they can easily afford it, but them spending that lavishly on me makes me uncomfortable.

xp yeah, i'm always looking at prices of different dishes and going for the less expensive ones if i possibly can...

i don't spend much on them really, but hopefully the scarves i've knit and all of that mean something. i'm horrible at buying gifts, and i've kind of run out of thoughtful ideas, which kind of sucks.

my parents have done a lot for me, but they also make fuckloads of money while i'm getting by with four figures. so it's tricky.

Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, is it wrong that i find this attractive?

http://i.a.cnn.net./si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0609/campus.superfans2.week4/images/71874_04.jpg

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

That's borderline furrydom, man.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

With my dad, I almost always let him pay since he seems happy to do it, and usually won't take no for an answer.

With moms, I always pay because she has no money or source of income. Not that it comes up very much, because until now there have been zero kosher restaurants that she will eat it in Milwaukee (but this placed just opened up called, wait for it, Cafe Osher!).

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

she's got red hair dan, i'm powerless against it. it's like some sort kryptonite or something.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

So does it have unexplained, short-lasting effects on you, like making you have an evil twin or grow extra arms?

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

saps me of my strength and clouds my thinking.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

yiff

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like clowns.

People, recommend me some wonderful, inexpensive shampoo.

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

Whole Foods grapefruit-scented shampoo, $1.99.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

People, recommend me some wonderful, inexpensive shampoo.

Lush shampoo bar. Lasts forever so the initial outlay is totally worth it.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

As for money and presents, Laurel + Amanda = Me.

I totally resent spending caps on gift-giving, for friends or family. This is a point of tension between Jeff and me because he has a totally different relationship with his family than I do and doesn't understand why I would ever want to buy something for my parents that requires financial sacrifice on our part.

Not that it has to require that sacrifice, but if the gift that I want to give them, be it something to do, eat, own, or whatever, is pricey, I figure, "I sure love these people so I'm going to buy this perfect thing, budget be damed, because it will make them really, really happy."

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff also has a totally different relationship with money than I do. Times were wicked tight when it was just mom and me against the world (yes, she used to sing that Helen Reddy song to me. Precious, no?) but my family is outrageously generous to each other so I grew up thinking that the right way to be w/r/t money was self-sacrifing yet generous, especially to family. Even when my parents were struggling, I could always count on them to give me the cash hookup, no questions asked, no strings attached. Now they're totally rich, but whatever. So anyway, I kind of look at money as something definitely useful that should also be shared.

And yes, I love telling my Republican mother than she raised a little commie.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

I'm in Baton Rouge, sitting on a side street in my car.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

You can post from your car??

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to myself: And that is why Jeff holds on to my credit card and is in charge of our finances and I get a set amount of spending money each week.

HI JESSE!

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

How's that working out for you, Jesse?

For lunch I had a Bolivian meat pie that a co-worker brought in. Folded over dough with beef, veggies, and tons of cayenne and cumin. It tasted pretty damn good, but it is like one brick in my stomach.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

why did i think kfc would be a good idea for lunch? it feels like my innards are churning.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure how I ended up here, doing what I'm doing. I was in a presentation by the Lt. Gov's office on how the Dep. of Tourism and Recreation office should submit proposals to be a part of their budget.

I know the Lt. Gov's chief legal council who invited me. Apparently he wants to make |WJ a partner org with the one of the divisions of the dept. of Tourism so as to provide our org. with funding while making the Lt Gov's office and the Dept of Tourism look benevolent for being involved with |WJ.

WHAT WOULD IKNOW ABOUT HOW TO SNAG STATE FUNDING?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

i'm driving on the freeway and posting at the same time!!!!11!

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

Oh and of yes: of course I will be at the Jammerman wedding! And I will dance! And, assuming there will be booze, get drunk! I'll try not to embarass anybody, though.

Jesse, I'm pretty sure that's illegal. Or should be.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight, I am going to see the Chicago Fire play the Los Angeles Galaxy in the championship game of the US Open Cup. I expect a few dozen people in Chicago will actually care if they win. The tournament is kind of cool in its organization, though. Just about any soccer team in the US can enter and play against pros, and (potentially) take it all home.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

I like that the Chicago team's logo is based on that of a fire department. I hear the fans are mostly a bunch of assholes, though. :( I think the NYC firm had trouble with Chicago supporters on various occasions. Not that the NJ/NY supporters are incredibly gracious and well mannered, but they're pretty racially & culturally diverse and don't tend to be white fratboy types.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

assholes
white fratboy types

Yup, pretty much describes my housemate to a tee! (He's the one with season tickets.) Well, not the fratboy part, I guess.

I've heard a bit about the fans... evidently they have a web forum where they plan their nasty chants and heckles and that kind of stuff. The latest thing for the games against L.A. (they played them in regular league play last week) is to bring German flags to taunt the star L.A. player, Donovan, for choking in the World Cup in Germany.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Soccer fans seem to me to tend to be huge assholes toward whoever is not their team, though.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

I've been asked to speak on a panel for a discussion of the Big Box ordinance and a living wage. It's this Friday afternoon. On the one hand, I'm totally passionate about the topic, it's awesome for me professionally to be publicly associated with this type of thing, I love public speaking (no seriously, I do), and it is a huge ego boost to be asked to do stuff like this.

On the other hand, I have a big old chunk of my big old 30 page thesis due on Monday and I really don't have time for this shit. And I was thinking on the train today that I am getting dangerously close to harming myself due to overwork/over stress/lack of sleep.

What should I do, Chicago?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, it's also one of those, "OMG this is so last minute but our first choice speaker* fell through please help us!" kind of appeals, which adds a guilt factor if I say no.

* You'd think that would lessen the ego boost, but somehow it just doesn't...

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

Would you have to do additional research for the panel or just show up?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Politely decline due to prior engagement. Maybe they'll have you back?

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Do the panel! It's great experience, and maybe you'll make a difference, and if it goes well you'll remember it all your life.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I would say do it if it's just a couple hours out of the day, it seems like the sort of thing you might be able to put on a resume (but what do I know).

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno, I guess I would think about it as something you're paying for that will affect the rest of your life vs. something you'd be giving up your own time for and, while beneificial to you and others, that could have a negative outcome for your schooling. Maybe I'm just selfish that way.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'd just have to show up. I'm not sure if my experience is of the type they are looking for - he talked about sharing my experience with student organizing and I have done none of that w/r/t the living wage ordinance.

I don't think my situation is quite so dire as to come down to a choice between continuing with school or speaking on this panel. Although it probably sounds that way to hear me whine so much.

I'll get some more info to see if I'm really the "student perspective" he's looking for, and if not, I'll try to get my coworker to do it since she's writing her 30 page senior thesis on the ordinance anyway.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

When someone hands off a job to a co-worker, we all pay.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

it does sound like a great experience. what jordan said, really. it's really tough to figure out how to fit rewarding stuff in with an already hectic schedule though. ugh.

you need to book yourself a massage or something after you get this massive thesis done. or little relaxy things you can do to reward yourself for stages of the thesis.

xp sounds like a good way to address it.

Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

I would do it too. It sounds awesome!!!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

who's paying for a hand job from their co-worker?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

I emailed him back to tell him what I had to offer. It's in God's hands now.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Interesting coincidence, there...

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

riiiiight, "coincidence". *wink*

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, that Peter Carey novel looks really good.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm late, but I'd do it, too. I mean, I jump at opportunities like that.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking on a panel would totally be a dream come true.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Any panel?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

wood panel

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

clapboard, if you will

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

No, probably not, but being asked to participate on an appropriate panel where I could share my expertise and engage in a discussion with other folks would be tremendously satisfying. Beats the fuck out of being a desk-monkey.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

"Led Zeppelin, Automotive Maintenance, and Society"?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

I could handle the Society part of that.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

you think so?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

Now I'm trying to think of an appropriate panel to be part of. I don't think I have any expertise in anything that's worth sharing.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm not sure I do, either. Except for baby-name trends.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

UH.

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

WHAT ABOUT THE FILE

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

We could turn Thirsty Thursdays into a panel discussion. It would be like a cross between our writing here and regular conversation. We would each have a microphone, a glass of water, and a nameplate. Libraries have this stuff, don't they?

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

I would attend a panel on baby name trends in a heart beat, and I am not kidding. Especially if John were one of the speakers.

I don't know that I have the requisite expertise for a panel like this, btw. People just know that Workers Rights Is My Bag so I end up being a gap filler for stuff like this sometimes. I did a "Future of Collective Bargaining" talk at Northwestern (Northwestern? The one in Evanston) under the same "our first choice bailed help us" circumstances.

But I'm a substitute for another guy.
I look pretty tall but my heels are high..
The simple things you see are all complicated
I look pretty young, but I'm just back-dated...

xpost - I could probably get us a room at school...

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Discussion question:

What the hell is wrong with Parker Posey?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v719/gofugyourself/GFY112005/72014826.jpg

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

Huh. She's not in Shortbus, is she? (That's the new John Cameron Mitchell film with REAL SEX.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

I bet a friend of hers who is an up & coming designer made that. She felt obligated to wear it.

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Is there something really wrong with her clothing that mine male eyes are just not seeing?

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

She looks like a rooster.

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have to make a real decision for a few months, but I'm not sure if I want to find an apartment by myself or move in with a couple of friends (dude from the band and his sister), who are thinking of renting a house.

On one hand I like living alone (I think?!), but on the other hand it would probably be a good idea to have people to hang with, make sure I don't live like a slob, get out of the house, etc.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

She looks like she should be in a saloon.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

she looks like bizarro sigourney weaver

gbx (skowly), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

Yes. Yes she does.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

Crossed with R0bin Russ0.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

I was curious as to what I'd find at sarahandnick.com. I could have done better: http://www.sarahandnick.com/.

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

Man, she married into the Mephistopholes family, didn't she?

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

If you guys had stayed on the straight and narrow, you'd look like...
http://sarahandnicholas.com/

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

Of course, we probably wouldn't like you then. ;)

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

anything going on for TT or should i make other plans?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

parker posey looks a lot better when she isn't aping my hair style.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

I want to have TT somewhere, but I need to buy some waterproof boots tomorrow afternoon.

Aside: where can I get some waterproof boots in this town??? The ones at REI in the burbs last night were all ugly and/or expensive as fuck.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

The Boss Bar at, like, Clark and Hubbard makes for a good post-work drinks spot.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

(I'm in for TT this week.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

Like boot boots? Would the Army/Navy store on Lincoln have them?

I have to review a show near Lincoln/Fullerton at 7:30 tomorrow but may be able to TT beforehand.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

If I'm to be empaneled, I'm definitely a TT no show. If not, I will probably stop by. Boss Bar works for me.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Nick got his boots at DSW.

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Like boot boots?

Yep. Something that will keep my feets dry and be relatively comfy. I might check that surplus store... it'll be like a return to the days when I rocked the army jacket covered with punk patches.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

eddie bauer?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

The major fucking problem here is my feet are size 13 and there is very little to be had. I knew I should have ordered those N0rth F@ce ones from Zappos... shit!

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Boss Bar

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

The North Face? Except they will be ten billion dollars and say "THE NORTH FACE" on them in giant, stupid letters.

xpost - a HA!

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

"The place is filled with negatives. Many of the bartenders are openly racist and rude to minority patrons (Im white). The regular bartenders tend to be stumbling drunk and obnoxious. The one high point was the bartender named Viola. A beautiful Polish girl who was as pleasant as she was gorgeous."

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

a HA!

They were on sale! Under a hundred bucks!

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

"the real party is in the rear bar witch is located in the mens bathroom.try the foot long sausages."

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

"Sweet. Complete dive. Stripper barmaids - not that that's a bad thing! Crappy interior, greasy food served. Combination of lowlifes, slumming suburbanies and city Chinaski types. In other words, a great bar, rub elbows with humanity here - or not, just hang with friends. Any bar that has a garage door that opens completely in the summer, and spews tables onto the sidewalk is a good thing in my book. A true original in a chain restaurant forest - it gets props for that alone. I only wish the drinks were correspondingly cheap, but it seems they are not - probably a nod to the downtown location."


i think i've been there. the garage door part brings it back.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

The foot long sausages in the bathroom bring it back, admit it.

For some reason, I cannot type an apostrophe. It brings up the search field in Firefox...

And my arrow keys do not work...

WTF

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

I only wish the drinks were correspondingly cheap, but it seems they are not - probably a nod to the downtown location."

Oh yeah, I forgot about that part. I've only been there once, but it was like $6 for a pint of Stella or something ridic.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

The foot long sausages in the bathroom bring it back, admit it.

that's every bathroom for me.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

'''''''''''''''''''''''

Now they work.

POLTERGEIST

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Are you on a Mac, Jenny? Mac Firefox fucks up for me all the time. Mostly it just stops accepting keyboard shortcut commands.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Nope. I'm at work on a Windows machine. It freaked me out a little because out of nowhere, Jeff's keyboard at home started turning the volume up when I press shift-home and turning it down for shift-end. Shift-up arrow opens the CD drawer and then closes it again.

We can't figure out what's causing it, but I'm a big time keyboard shortcut (Thanks, Apple) and MS Word user and it makes me fucking crazy.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, I was starting to think it was my aura that was fucking up every keyboard I use. That's how I meant to finish that little tale of woe.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

ON TEH WAY
http://www.zappos.com/images/725/7250884/1396-278166-d.jpg
I actually called to see if I could get them overnighted and the operator was all flirty and ended up giving me the shipping for free! She said I was a "good sport" for putting up with being on hold.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.nba.com/media/bulls/wallace_hp_060927.jpg

guess who's here

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to assume that's Ben Wallace, based on the 'fro and the Bulls logo. Jenny?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

yes. bulls tix go on sale soon! and they still have the 10 dollar nosebleed seats.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

That's him all right.

Deej, you should let us know what days you get tickets for. I know Jeff is going to pick up nosebleed seats for a few games. We can go show our love for Mr. Wallace together.

Assuming you love him, that is.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

i'm a fan, and the bulls chances haven't been this good in a minute. when i buy tickets i'll hit up the board.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm back. Baton Rouge was kind of a let-down.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

But!!! It was so fucking nice to be in a town that didn't look like a hurricane had hit it.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 22:43 (nineteen years ago)

I'm giving some serious consideration to buying jerky online. I buy it at the grocery store and it's expensive but not that great. It's $6 for 3.5 oz.

I want buffalo jerky I think. Buffalo = yum. (I would fuck up a buffalo burger about right now.)

http://www.buybuffalomeat.com/

http://www.beefjerky.com/

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

You know, I never thought I would be the kind of dude who buys veggie burgers, but here we are.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 00:54 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I am a panelist. No TT for me. :(

They want a bio. I'm thinking maybe:

Jenny is a third year law student. She gets a real boner for worker justice. She is also very tired.

What do you think? Too self-aggrandizing?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 28 September 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

This Sunday I'm going to run/walk in a 5K breast cancer Race for the Cure.

http://www.runnotc.org/races/2006/cure.html

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

That seems out of character to me.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, frozen veggie burgers? I've never met one that was really worth eating.

Jesse, which part is the out of character part, do you think?

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 28 September 2006 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

The part where I run in a charity event. Related: the part where I take part in a sporting activity. Especially one that involves the letter K preceded by a number.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 03:44 (nineteen years ago)

I have been jogging for the past 2 weeks. Tonight I did 2 miles of running plus .5 or so of walking. A fair amount of the jogging was actually full force running.

Improvement!

Gmap-pedometer.com is awesome.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 03:46 (nineteen years ago)

I have a neighbor who lives in one of the few ohter nice homes in the Irish Channel neighborhood. He has an iron fence containing 2 black dogs and a billy goat that lays on the porch a lot.

Pics coming soon.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 03:48 (nineteen years ago)

nu-Jesse.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 28 September 2006 04:23 (nineteen years ago)

Once when I was a kid, I gave my mom a magnet wrapped in aluminum foil to look like a small candy as a Mother's Day present. I still feel incredibly guilty about this. I think I made it that morning.

I am going to see "Wait Wait Don't Tell Me" tonight with my office. I never really listen to that show.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 28 September 2006 09:31 (nineteen years ago)

I love that show. I really want to go see it.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:14 (nineteen years ago)

I've never met one that was really worth eating.

Yeah, I don't love them, but cooked with a little Worcestshire sauce and topped with some good mustard, they're edible.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 11:51 (nineteen years ago)

Good morning!

Last night I had an embarassing case of the vapours at practice. We only played three songs and I had to go home. My head was all fuzzy. It was bizarro. Thankfully, I'm feeling much better today.

I finally bought stamps yesterday, so I'm going to send out some snail mail today with the help of Cats in Hats! (thanks, J&J)

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.rossettiarchive.org/img/s121b.m.jpg

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:35 (nineteen years ago)

I think I need a fainting couch.

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

I love that show. I really want to go see it.

yeah me too but i think tickets are like $25 or something. i don't love it that much.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 28 September 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'm moving offices in a little bit. Goodbye privacy, forever. :(

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

:(

I have so much privacy, it's ridiculous. Today I'm writing snail mail, like I said, and reading my book. I had a rush of work yesterday, but I did it all at once to get it over with.

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

Btw, I don't know why this annoys me so much, but it does: for the Oct. 6th gig, I sent in an MS Paint stage plot for the sound guy and copied the other band on it. Six mics for drums, two for guitar amps, one for bass, and three vocal mics. Then the leader of the other band that we're playing with sends an e-mail that says "and here is our setup" and it is the EXACT SAME THING, just slightly more professional looking. I mean the bass on the same side of the stage, lead vocal mic in the same place, exact.

Couldn't she have just said "yeah that works for us too", or nothing at all?

(not a big deal, but this is like their third annoying act)

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

I love that show. I really want to go see it.

I listen to it every week, without fail, in podcast form. It's great.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

Why do I find the picture at the top of this thread more unpleasant than Gacy the Killer Clown? It's not as bad as the hare lip, I guess.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

She just looks a bit like a Golden Girl.

That's dumb, Jordan! Do we need to make a rendering of our setup too? We actually have one in our EPK.

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

She looks like R0bin R0usso at Halloween, but nicer. And smaller bazongas. RIGHT KENAN?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'm rolling up construction plans over here. These huge rubber bands are making my hands smell weird. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Thursday, 28 September 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

You can send it to me if you want, Sarah, but I think it should be fine. Your setup will be the same as our setup minus one guitarist, I assume.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

but won't her setup be more professional?!

kidding.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

i have two dumb things to say/ask . . .

has jesse moved to NO? or is he just working down there? i feel like i had a huge lapse in ILX time & i'm thusly, behing the times.

also, how does one decide whether or not to change her last name when said person ties the knot?

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

After yesterday, I'm compelled to post something more lighthearted...

I learned two new things yesterday:

1) Korean English = Konglish

2) They have a word, "skinship" for something that we don't (as far as I know) have a word for! It's the "friendly touching" (shoulder punching, back slapping, goodbye hugging, arm rubbing) that occurs between two people who know each other well enough to have their skin touch (ie, "friends") but are not romantically involved. Platonic touching. Skinship. Apparently it's derived from a Japanese word. (Thank you wikipedia)

So since my "Colin Whatshisname is going to play Horshack" rumor that never took off, and my "pizza" for the fourth meal concept that had no legs, I urge you to popularize SKINSHIP.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - One goes by one's own gut decision and does not let other people influence her. One does what the f one wants with one's name.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Mands, I'm still working on "pizza"!! Everyone I tell it to likes the idea, it just needs a push somehow....

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

She looks like R0bin R0usso at Halloween, but nicer. And smaller bazongas. RIGHT KENAN?

I THOUGHT THEY WERE PART OF THE COSTUME!

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

ps -- That wasn't supposed to sound so aggro -- I just meant that there is no way to make that decision by panel agreement. It's up to you. And your partner.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, I just told people about "pizza" the other night! It's a Thing.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

please remove the extra "that"s from my sentence, i have a headache and am going nuts from like 12 non-consecutive hours of teachin'.

YAY PIZZA!!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, i just can't make up my mind. i have time but i'm indecisive.


what is the pizza thing?!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Skinship ooks me out for some reason.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Kels -- pizza is the fourth meal of the day, consumed after 11 and ofter after beer. You don't have to have pizza for pizza, but it's not a bad idea.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Kelsey, I am taking Nick's name. The feminist in me tells me to keep my own name. But the me wanting to make an outward display of inward (?) commitment, is all for a name change. Also, Ammerman is so much more interesting than Johnson. Also, I don't like where the Johnson family is headed (to Heaven? ha!). Also, there's that whole 'But what would the potential kids be named?' issue. But like Manda said, it's completely up to you.

Jordan, you need to send me your mic setup so I can have Ben create a flash version of it.

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

"What do you want for pizza?"

"Gyros!"

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

Can you change your name to anything when you get married? Because I think you should be Sarah Foxxx.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, you need to send me your mic setup so I can have Ben create a flash version of it.

Ha. I forwarded them to your gmail address.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

first thing i thought of when i read "skinship" was "IT PUTS THE LOTION IN THE BASKET".

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Skinship ooks me out for some reason.

The concept doesn't, but the word kind of does.

I had a gyro for pizza last night after the Fire game. Laurel was right about Chicago fans. They have a whole section dedicated to assholery. It was a good time, though. 3-1 Fire at the end.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

awesome on the pizza front. i'll start using it here too!

yeah, the kids thing is the crux for me. basically, i don't know if i want them. if i do, then i'll change my name. right now the leading contender is that leaf & i both use my last name as a middle name. i feel weird totally getting rid of my name. i'm worried that people won't call me "dilts!" anymore & if i'm going to be honest, that's the main reason why i don't want to change my name.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Hm. I know someone who didn't change hers but didn't protest when her kids' teachers called her Mrs Husband's Name, because that's the world we live in and why fly off the handle about it? So...YAY middle ground.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

One of the Journals I work for got a mention on CNN:

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/TECH/space/09/26/supernova/index.html

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

1. Jesse was originally in NO managing a group of hilarious interns while they laid the community foundation for opening a worker rights center. Now, the interns are gone and Jesse is running the place until they put somebody else in the job. He is coming home in the beginning of Novemer, or I am going to go down there and get him myself.

2. "One goes by one's own gut decision and does not let other people influence her. One does what the f one wants with one's name."

Also, you don't have to change it right away if you don't want to. You can keep your name on all the papers, but then try going by Leaf's name (change your email, change your answering machine, introduce yourself as K. _. (I can't remember L's last name... I'm a bad person) and see how that suits you. Then if it works, you can change it later. My friend changed her name two or three years after she got married when she became pregnant with her second child.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know why the phrase "hilarious interns" makes me think that jesse's life is a pilot for a sit-com.

yeah, maybe i'll wait. sorry to hash out the name thing here, i was just thinking about it a couple o' nights ago.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

Skinship came up when I was helping them revise these surveys I made them write. They have to write a survey, talk to people and get them to fill out the survey and then analyze the data and present a report to the class about their findings. This one guy is doing a survey about people's pet peeves and he offered "skinship" as one of the options and I was like WTF is SKINSHIP.

They are really just performing the survey project in order to meet girls. (They're all boys.)

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Also -- a minor Chicago celebrity lives in my neighborhood: Alp@n@ S!ngh! I heard her this morning yapping to a friend. I have no idea what she was talking about, but she was talking really loudly for the Jarvis stop at 7AM.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Also, you don't have to change it right away if you don't want to. You can keep your name on all the papers, but then try going by Leaf's name (change your email, change your answering machine, introduce yourself as K. _.

that's what my sister did, for the first year she kept her maiden name, then she hyphenated it, now it's just shorter to write one name.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

They are really just performing the survey project in order to meet girls.

almost everything dudes do is in order to meet girls.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 28 September 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

My bandmate EL, who coincidentally just taped an episode of Check, Please!, was all "I saw a celebrity!" last night, and we were like "who? who?" -- and it turns out it was Barack Obama's wife. And I was like, "oh." I don't know that I'd even be able to recognize her.

BTW, I rolled into work at 9:45 today. NICE GOING, CTA.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

WAIT I MEAN 10:45. &%!#@$

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

I took a cab. Fuck a CTA.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

If it's this easy, why aren't there more people with wacky names running around?

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

I am coming around to the idea of women taking their husbands' last name. I still think it would be weird for someone to take my last name, but I'm seeing more and more people I know do it. I don't know, I guess I just didn't think that it would be that popular among my friends.

Anyway, I do think that K3ls3y McGr3gor has a nice ring to it.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

I can't believe none of you came to vist me. I was hoping that at least Jenny and Jeff would get down here. We could have had a good time. BUT NO, YOU LET ME SINK IN THE QUAGMIRE OF ISOLATION.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.encore-editions.com/Juvenile/beatrixpottercoloredplates/thm_tfbmrmcgregorputsbunniesintosack.jpg

Queen Sarah Saturday (coco), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Just received this e-mail. French people are hilarious.

Dear friends,

Just a message to thank you.

Whereas I put order in my files, I realize that I didn't answer yet following your sending. So, sorry for not answer to you earlier, but I had some preoccupations with my health which monopolized my time and my energy and made me forget my obligations towards people with which I'm in bond for my radio emission. But that doesn't excuse anything...I'm a little constrained to haven't write to you earlier, cause that given very pleasure of feeling supported...So, first, all my apologize for this delay.

So, I indeed received your package with C4n4st4 last Lp "W3 W3r3 S3t Up " and I wanted to thank you for having sent it me.
The delay left me time to listen to the disc patiently and it has me much more. For my mind, this album is a great success who combines, with a rare and subtle feeling, a real intensity and musical depth and a brillant inspiration for gorgeous pop music. Compositions are always well thought and perfectly arranged (such in the diamond song Imposters) and that confers a real homogeneity to your production. The indie musical influences are quite perceptible, but each musical pieces skilfully manage to be detached some by affirming an own musical personality. Songs seems to be the result to a subtle alchemy between an elegant and spontaneous songwriting and marvellous compositions (the brillant 'An Ap0l0gy' or the catchy 'M0ney Making M0ney' are really great songs that could have written by The Decemberist), and finally, "W3 W3r3 S3t Up" is really a beautiful album. As a result of this, I have a great pleasure with listened to Canasta musical work and I would have a joy to making some profit my friends and listeners.

Being convinced by the quality of your album, I commit myself to diffuse your music on the the French waves, in my emission The Lat3c0m3rs*. I didn't fix yet dates for diffusions, but that certainly could not delay.

Thanks again for having me forwarded this promotionnal copy of a such great indie pop music.

Don't hesitate to hold me with the current of Canasta actuality. I'd be happy also to receive your news regularly.

Thanks a lot for your support and also congratulations for your work.
Take care.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

ALSO ALSO: I don't know if people are still interested in TT or not. Because I got in so late, I probably can't make it until, oh, probably 6:30 or so. Assuming the Boss Bar is still cool with everybody...

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

No TT for me tonight. I need to do some cleaning (and baking! and romantic comedy watching!).

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

untenableSarah I don't get the pic. What's that about?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Cut & Paste this:
http://www.encore-editions.com/Juvenile/beatrixpottercoloredplates/thm_tfbmrmcgregorputsbunniesintosack.jpg

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I didn't get it, either. You were responding to me, not to Jesse. I was like "That's a weird visual representation of QUAGMIRE OF ISOLATION."

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Oh the tag gives it away! Doh!

I just ate some pretzel nugs. While doing so, I sang the following ditty.

I'm eatin' pretzel nuuuuugggsss
Now come give me a huuuugggggg...

But Nick said I should change it to:

I'm eatin' pretzel nuuuuggggssss
so fast like they are drugggsssss

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Ooops! I didn't mean to call you untenableSarah! I was typing in that word to look it up at Answers.com and forgot to erase it.

I meant that I don't understand why you posted it! I received it fine.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Me too.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah's Weird Family Update!
Soooo, my mom and middle sister were in France for 1.5 weeks and NEVER SAW MY BRO'-IN-LAW! However, he did call very frequently to yell at my youngest sis (wifey).

JESSE! Didn't you like Peter Rabbit as a kid? That's mean old Mr. McGregor, rabbitnapping the little soporific bunnies.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, I actually did consider going down and visiting you during my travels, but whole concept of going to NO (the city, not to seeing you) seemed stressful, and the whole purpose of travelling was to recover from a busy and stressful summer, and I just didn't have the strength for it. Visiting you would have been an adventure, which was the last thing I needed. Sorry. Feel free to curse out my name to the gods; they're used to hearing it.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

I'm "dieting." I'm doing a modified Atkins shitmess. Modified b/c I'm not doing the "induction" phase where you eat ZERO carbs. Instead I'm eating very very very few while also trying to stay somewhat low fat and not completely pig out on meat. And I'm excercising some.

I WILL FUCKING LOSE 15 POUNDS! EVEN IF IT MEANS WALKING OR RUNNING 10 MILES PER DAY AND DOSING MYSELF WITH CRYSTAL METH.

What really drove my fat home was trying on clothes at Bananananana Rep and feeling like I was in a Cathy comic strip. ACK!!!

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

Were beads o' sweat a-flyin' from your forehead?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

Jesse, I was thinking this morning that I should have just gone down to NO for a weekend. I'm going in November, would you like to go back? :>

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

I have lost fifteen pounds, but I guarantee you that I could gain it all back in one weekend in N.O..

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

I am not going to make it to TT today -- I am getting over a really bad headache and don't really care to make it worse again.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

Visiting here is fine. Working here is stressful.

BTW, this week's Monday Night Football coverage of the Saints was incredible. It's a cliche, but it's true: NO couldn't have paid for an ad as good as the game and ESPN's coverage. It was supremely good television, far better than the news has done.

Things that rarely or never happen: I was reading the Sports section, and it brought tears to my eyes.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

I asked Brian Z3g33r for advice on designing a tatoo. He said:
i would suggest something very graphic or cross-hatched, not too rendered/volumetric

that's kind of shop-talky

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Brian may be my most Googlable friend.

http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hs=Z5d&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=%22brian+zegeer%22&btnG=Search

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to get a tattoo the next time I'm in NO.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

Where? 3lictric L@dayland? Where do you recommend?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/87/254983144_6cdaf541b6_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/105/254983143_ce2d947d02_o.jpg

This is where I am sitting right now. I'm on the laptop.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

That's the place on Frenchman St next to DBA, right? Yeah, there.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

New record should be Hold Me With The Current Of Canasta Actuality

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 28 September 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

Skinship, Ahoy

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

There are 3 I think, that one, one on Rampart and another on Magazine or something.

I was watching the Saints game (I first typed Superbowl) at DBA when a guy came in from ELL which had closed early b/c of the game. He seemed OK.

Do you know an artist that you'd recommend?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

Loose lips sink skinships.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

I like the idea of "skinship," but it unfortunately reminds of the term "skin flute."

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

Do you know an artist that you'd recommend?

Nope, nothing like that. Maddie got a tattoo there the last time we were down, and I liked one of the fleur de lis designs in their book.

I like DBA but I had the worst martini of my life there. The rotten olive kind of infused the whole drink with its nastiness.

Frenchman St. Grocery (in between DBA and the tattoo place) has great po' boys!

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, what's up with this woman, who only pops up on ILX to make snotty remarks toward Jenny?

Oh, also, starting labor-side lawyers at certain firms in Chicago make about 70k, so that's considerably more than being working the poverty law angle...or even the 34k you'd make as an AAG. Okay, I'm finished.
-- lawmclawlaw (pursedangle...), September 27th, 2006 2:17 PM. (allie b) (later) (link)

Anyone who is willing to vote for Dorothy Brown clearly doesn't have to deal with the Circuit Court Clerk's office. If they did, they would have zero confidence in her ability to run an office efficiently, let alone a city. Massive thumbs down.
-- allie (pursedangle...), September 6th, 2006.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

I have enjoyed reading the theories as to how easy it is to get a job, how unimportant grades are, and how the practice of law is from people who are still students, though. How enlightening. I'll enjoy your updates upon graduation, and during your job search.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

FUCK YOU, CREEPY LURKER.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

I see you typing angrily into your spreadsheet.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

I know, I saw that too, J! And I thought Jenny handled it very nicely. I like her attitude towards withholding the smackdown until it's really worth the aggravation.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

She is Sinister, isn't she?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

Who?

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

Allie B.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, Allie. Yes, nominally.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

The only other time she's posted on ILX:

for the record, jenn, i totally have a crush on you. in fact, i have ten. every time I see think of you it's butterflies in my tum and daydreams of kittens, limited edition seven inches and *our favorite band* opening every show i would see with you. a haiku for jenn:
oh beautiful jenn
you fill my heart with hand claps
no, kids, not *that* clap

-- allie (pursedangle...), August 16th, 2005 3:41 PM. (allie b) (link)


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

oh wow, it's allie!
-- Homosexual II (mandeewrigh...), August 16th, 2005 3:49 PM. (Homosexual II) (link)


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double oh wow, it's allie!
-- jennpb (imperfectteet...), August 16th, 2005 3:56 PM. (jennpb) (link)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan

If you're going to ELL and you want a fleur de lis, you may want to see a guy named Cameron. He's the guy I met at DBA, and he recently drew up a new sheet of 10 or 12 fleurs made of different things (crawfish, money, bird).

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

ELL?

ow are oo.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get it.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

I do.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

'splain please.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

Cool, Jesse. See, you know more about it than I do.

This is basically the one I wanted: http://static.flickr.com/13/110205064_2567d83f95_m.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

No AITCHES.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

xpost: wait, maybe i do, if you mean english language learner? but this sounds more like a deaf person.

i am getting the tattoo either this weekend or the beggininging of the next.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.filmthreat.com/UploadImages/000007388_waitingforguffman2X.jpg

"I think I'm really honing in on it."

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

English language learner was (predictably) my first thought but then I heard Billy Bragg's voice in my ead and thought uvvawise.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

me 'ead?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

xpost:
oh. that's dumb.

also, that's a pretty cool fleur. they're totally way popular now. i was made fun of on another board for thinking about getting one. i still may though. but i have another idea that's going to appear on my body soon. somewhat similar in theme to the fleur, but nothing like it in object or design.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand the connection between fleur de lis and NO. Laern me.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

It came from the large French influence on New Orleans back in the day, I think, and it's on the Saints helmets.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

it kind of makes me feel paranoid that gmail uses the content of my email to advertise to me. if the body contains the word Florida, there are ads on the side for FL timeshares. if it says unemployment, it's temp jobs and employment agencies.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, ok. I know about the French influence but I didn't/don't really get its symbolic significance.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleur-de-lis

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

This town is COVERED in fleurs. It's one of the few places you'll see redneck men with giant fleurs-de-lis painted on their chests and faces (during a Saints game). Everywhere you look there is a fleur.

I read that on Monday schools were asking that parents dress their kids in black and gold and with a fleur-de-lis if available.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

If the kids are available? City of indulgence indeed.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

I think its importance as a symbol of New Orleans is due to the fact that it's the symbol of New Orleans.

("that's why it's called money!")

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sure it's becoming a total cliche in NO, but I don't mind. Solidarity and all that, I guess.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

I think Kenan's write (about its symbolic significance).

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I'll just get a fleur first and wait for Brian to adapt my other tattoo. Or maybe R0bin Russ0.

I think I've lost at least a couple of pounds. My pants fit much better. Probably water weight. I've had the serious shitz for a couple of days.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeh, and if that snide lurker bitch is listening (who was trying to give Jenny shit): Fuck you.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

According to today's Red Eye, more people are still getting tattooed than you might think!

(this update brought to you by a casual Red eye reader)

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

I want to take an audio clip of Jesse saying "I have to poop" and set it as my Mac alert sound.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

I think Kenan's write (about its symbolic significance).

Kenan didn't post?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

I want to take an audio clip of Jesse saying "I have to poop" and set it as my Mac alert sound.

Wow, flashback to me being 12 years old.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

i hatt the red eye

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Oh wow. I didn't realize that was the same person. That's kind of neat.

I might be wrong, but I think that post about how easy it is to get jobs, etc., might have been more universally directed, just because I never said getting a job would be easy.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

I meant Jordan. It's the final "n" that confused me.

What are you saying about my pooping, Dan?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

I might be wrong, but I think that post about how easy it is to get jobs, etc., might have been more universally directed, just because I never said getting a job would be easy.

Yes, but the post about labor law wasn't sufficiently snotty enough. I wanted to provide a context.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'm saying that when I was in junior high we got a shiny new Mac LC/30 and one of my friends' and my favorite pastimes was recording profane shit on it and setting it as the alert sounds.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Sometimes I don't feel like I've matured much beyond that point, either.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

If anyone should get a fleur de lis tattoo, it shouldn't be any of you posers.

Monsieur Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Don't you mean "poseurs"?

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

Ah oui.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

But I'm not getting a fleur de lis, either. I'm getting the cover of Whitesnake's "Lovehunter" all over my back.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

why are we poseurs? i love NO. i'm not a resident, but i don't think i have to be. it's solidarity, like kornan said.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

it looks like she's shitting a snake-tail.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ Whitesnake

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

why are you and i characterized as poseurs, jornan?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's your Nash boards and brand new AirWalks.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

There are message boards for fans of Nash Bridges?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

STCU. shut the cunt up

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

why are you and i characterized as poseurs, jornan?

I don't know, Jurrsee. I didn't grow up there, I've never lived there, I'm not a Katrina evacuee, but I do love it, I think about it all the time, go 2-3 times per year, donate when I can, try and spread the culture as I know it, have friends there, I've played music for a jazz funeral, played with Mardi Gras Indians and my brass band heroes, blah blah blah.

I am not arguing about authenticity on the internet.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

http://globelogger.com/aviando/Aviando_files/Cajun.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

So is TT a bust for tonight then?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

So I went to Macy's today to buy a shirt and pay off my erstwhile Marshall Field's card and this lady handed me a little card with perfume on it and without thinking, I took it and put it in my pocket and only just found it a minute ago (and a couple hours after she handed it to me) and now my whole being reeks of Guess for Women, which does not smell good to me.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh, I hate perfume ladies (and the pretty boys, too). But they make a lot more money than your average floor-walker, apparently, and it's a much-envied gig.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

I like Banana Republic's Slate.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

So is TT a bust for tonight then?

I drove to work today 'cause I've got some stuff I need to bring home, and I still have to do a load of laundry and finish packing. I wouldn't mind having drinks, but perhaps later? I don't have a clue where Boss Bar is, either.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

I can't meet anyone tonight on account of me 'ead.

Has anyone ever tried mead? Is it like African honey wine? Because that shit is GOOD. Sweet, but tasty for dessert.

Also, has anyone ever made baklava? I want to try.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

Me me! I know something about mead!

I had some at the Hopleaf. The cheaper stuff tastes just like honey, with a thinner consistency. The older better stuff is nicer. It's not as sweet and tastes more like sherry.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of the LARPer and SCA types I knew in college were way into mead. I think that's because it's what Vikings or Goths or Visigoths or some ancient peoples drank.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, the mead I had at Hopleaf was just like honey -- don't remember what kind, though.

http://www.waiting4louise.de/cover/Cover-JAMC-PsychoCandy.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

The more expensive stuff is aged longer. It was like $12 for a little cordial glass full.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/90/255123916_5cb85639a2_o.jpg

this is the tattoo i already have. i want something to go with it on my back. but the tattoo i want is going to be within a rectangular border, and i dont' think this will go well with this.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

crap. i see i need a haircut.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.snoopygift.com/prodimg/1005.jpg
the tattoo i want is going to be within a rectangular border

You just need a corresponding curve within the rectangular border (see above).

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 28 September 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.snoopygift.com/prodimg/1005.jpg

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 28 September 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

hmmm

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

When everyone else pays, I can ride free.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 28 September 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

We need a few more guys at the party Saturday night or it's going to be...whatever the opposite of a sausage fest is.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

partyfullofgirls?

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

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deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

peachfest.jpg?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

Whaaaaaaaat? Damn it! I miss the girl-filled party?!?

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

softballteamparty.jpg

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

partyliteparty.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

georgiaokeefe.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:30 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Dan, I just added you to the list - thought you were on the original invite. Will C., host of W!ld Chicago, will be there.

(clambake?)

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

teaparty.jpg

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 28 September 2006 21:58 (nineteen years ago)

Who else is coming? Your guest list is obscured.

(Clambake is good, kudos.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 28 September 2006 22:02 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I should have written: "Whaaaaaaaat? Damn it! I'm going to miss the girl-filled party?!?

I'm pretty much packed. My plane is at 8, I hope to be there ~90 min. early. I'll be sure to take lots of pictures!

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 29 September 2006 04:20 (nineteen years ago)

Guest list is obscured? I meant to obscure the overall list but not the yes/no/maybe list - can I change thelatter without the former? There'll be fun-uns there.

HEY! I went to a bar on Lincoln tonight in the heart of Barleycornland, but listen, thirsty thursdayers, remember how we were talking about NTN trivia a few months back? This place HAS IT. And half-price drinks of all kinds on Thursday nights - so that means Sarah J.-soon-to-be-A. can get her girly drinks and I can have $2.50 Blue Moons, alongside 1/2-price appetizers and $2.99 chicken sandwiches in Guiness BBQ sauce...and NTN trivia!

Then I was walking by the Beat Kitchen on the way home and recognized N3p's girlfriend in the doorway and talked to the Brighton dudes who played there tonight and ended up kicking it for a while with Matisyahu's drummer.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 29 September 2006 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

NTN Trivia!!!

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 29 September 2006 11:47 (nineteen years ago)

whatever the opposite of a sausage fest is.

taco party.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

i fell asleep on the el last night not once, not twice, but at least 3 times. i went from sheridan to 95th, 95th to howard, howard to whatever the end of the purple line is (i heard the *ding dong* doors closing and jumped on), whatever the end of the purple line is back to howard then woke up at 47th. i was walking in my door at 7:03 a.m. today is going to be a battle.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 12:18 (nineteen years ago)

Shit, and I thought *I* was living Kevin's life today, what with the hangover and the sleep deprivation. Apparently Kevin is ALSO living his life.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 29 September 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

I went to bed at 11 sober and was up at 6:30 to do laundry. WHO'S WILD NOW?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 29 September 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Lots of people live that life. We call them "the homeless."

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Friday, 29 September 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

You are, obviously! I dropped my laundry off this morning. :D

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 29 September 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

i'm pretty tired (despite my cat naps) but you can't wipe this shit-eating grin off my face.
it really doesn't take much to make me happsy.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

E -- is that Lion's Head Pub? I've done NTN trivia there w/Renee and Blake. They also have free wings on Wednesday and Friday -- Kr used to go there w/her roommates for that deal.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

taco party.

Kevin wins.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

For real.

Kevin, you have now joined Jesse and thousands of homeless people in the "I slept from Howard to 95th and Day Ryan on the Red Line" club.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 29 September 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

i only slept from sheridan to 95th, but then i slept from 95th back to howard. and goddamn i never knew the purple line a) was so long and b) ran so late.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

Free wings! That is dangerous.

Speaking of which, GWALDA (which may be shortened to the Men's Digestive Association or something) met at the book store last night and decided on Blood Meridian. I almost got the Prestige as well but shelved it at the last minute.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe we could do TT there next week? Huh huh huh?

I started watching Lake House last night. It's just ok as a movie so far, but I love seeing all the shots of Chicago architecture.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

i ALMOST sent you and jeff a msg to see if you wanted to meet me for a drink since i was in yr neighborhood. but, obviously, i didn't.


and for sarah/nick/any wicker park/ukie village regular: do you know dancing asian guy? that is, do you know who i mean when i say "dancing asian guy"?

er, xpost.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

E -- is that Lion's Head Pub?
Yes!

Kevin is the only true heir to Algren and Bukowski. You have now done the proper research to write the great Chicago novel (with sidetrip to Wilmette). Glad u r ok wildman.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, Kevin! Of course! He's a dancing fool. I've seen his undies (usually, panties) in doses much too high to be healthy.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

You know what I was wondering? Perhaps this is cynical... But I was wondering if this guy just woke up one day and decided he wanted to be a Wicker Park Legend.
I will be the Dancing Asian Guy.
I will wear crazy outfits and dance in big intersections.
I will appear at every festival, so people can point and say, 'Look! It is the Dancing Asian Guy!'
And it was so.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently the drummer in my friend's band has a schtick in Minneapolis where he goes to shows dressed in a business suit and using crutches, and then, through the POWER OF MUSIC, throws down the crutches, loosens the tie, and gets on down.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

That's kind of funny.

Ohhh the Lion's Pub! I know that place. Jesse and Jeff and I went there before a film fest at the 3 Penny Cinema, and the Good Emily and I went there for drinks recently. I'm down wid it. I should be able to go next week, too. I'll certainly need a drink by then.

When does Dan come back from Alaska? I'm sure he said it, but I missed it.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin, You should ask Dancing Dan what he thinks of Dancing Asian Man. Also, you should suggest they have a dance off.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently the drummer in my friend's band has a schtick in Minneapolis where he goes to shows dressed in a business suit and using crutches, and then, through the POWER OF MUSIC, throws down the crutches, loosens the tie, and gets on down.

This is utterly brilliant.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

It sounds like alot of work too. That's dedication.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin, You should ask Dancing Dan what he thinks of Dancing Asian Man.

Are you talking about Dan the Fan?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

i.e., this dude:

http://myspace-742.vo.llnwd.net/00554/24/76/554946742_m.jpg

He came to Cleveland to see the Dials when we played with them at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

I was first introduced to him when I played with Green.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah. Dan the Fan.

I'm sick and tired of getting spam in my myspace comments. I have more spam friends than real ones. NOOOOOOOO!!!

John, have you guys played on Chicago Radio One (WLUW)? Ours turned out pretty well last night. Also, are you playing CMJ this year? (We aren't. :-( )

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

I know there's a video clip out there somewhere, but I can't track down the dude's name.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, we did Radio One once. It feels like a while ago -- it was pretty fun, though.

We don't know yet about CMJ. In the past couple of years, we have been on showcases put together by Nept@li, but this year he wants to book bands he hasn't booked before -- so we're on our own. We're still seeing if we can put a mini-tour together with Bright0n MA, even if we don't play the festival.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

i saw kevin the dancer's weird hipster rap 'band' accidently one night when my friends wanted to go to the tobacco shop on milwaukee. It was not so good.

deej.. (deej..), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

Aww, this is my friend's little brother's band:

Terrior Bute is a three man synth rock group with a keytar (how sweet is that?). They perform in white jumpsuits with little touch lights velcroed onto their chest. Their debut album “Return to Astro Castle” was just released after their Midwest tour, cut short in Cleveland because their parents wanted them to come back home. Check them out before their parents cut this tour off too!

Thursday, Oct. 12th

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

dan the fan is a friend of mine. he is the chicago rock institution i can abide unlike a certain decamped "poet" who shall go nameless.


sarah, re: d.a.g. i was walking down division last night and he was going in the opposite direction. it was about quarter to nine, the community bank at damen and division told me it was 53 degrees and dancing asian guy was wearing nothing but a blue cape and zebra striped speedos.
i felt like a weenie for shivering in my jacket.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

I have to start using "taco party". Right now. Today.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin, how do you feel about Tim Tuten?

http://www.gapersblock.com/detour/gfx/06042004_tim_tuten.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Last night I had AZN appetizers for pizza.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

to Algren and Bukowski

i don't like bukowski. a little of that goes a long way with me.
weird you mention algren, the man with the golden arm was delivered to me yesterday (along with the joy of cooking). the algren will be my airport reading for the weekend.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:56 (nineteen years ago)

i've got nothing against tim tuten. or rian murphy, he is my favorite of all chicago rock institutions.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

John - Nept@li, huh??? Maybe that will be our chance next year. This year we can't even afford to get to New York anyway, much less get hotel rooms. I was all excited that, just since we applied, we could get $150pp passes (as opposed to $500) because I sorely miss going to CMJ/NYC. But then I was like, oh yeah, I can't afford that anyway. :-( It would be so much easier if Nick's sister would just move back to New York!

"Taco party" is gross.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

Post what you think of it the Algren book, it sounds interesting.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

TT is the hideout guy, right? If so, I like him alot.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

Not to be confused with Thirsty Thursdays...

Jenny, could you please bring Sister Carrie to TT?(not tim)

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, TT is the Hideout owner.

All I know about Rian is what I've heard from Edith. He sounds like a nice guy.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

i'm on page 12 (the laundromat was not conducive to reading last night), only about 340 more to go. i'll let you know what i think. one thing that's weird is that the two characters who have been introduced so far are supposed to be degenerate career criminals from a shitty part of town. one of them hails from damen & division.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yes BUT you'll have to remind me Wednesday so I can put it in my bag or I will surely forget. I also have a wedding planning book that I thought I lost but I just found that I meant to give you months ago if you still want that.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

Can you feel it
Sister Carrie
Drawing you into the book?
Sister Carrie's
Somewhat wary but she
Has me falling in love

Hey-ey-ey-ey
Sister Carrie
Hey-ey-ey-ey
Dreiser novel
Why'd you leave me
For the good life?
At least our bad times were ours

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Friday, Oct. 6th, 8 p.m.
Tammy on the Terrace
Four bands join Congresswoman Tammy Baldwin for a free show.
Bands: The 0ptimistic, The Fingers, Fake F1ction and Motor Primitives

Apparently only one F1ction is allowed at this show, sorry guys.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha. I nominate Ben! We can wait and surprise him once we get there. Drum solos!

I didn't know there was a fourth band. We're playing last, right?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Could someone please remind me to remind Jenny Wednesday? I have oldtimers.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

Nope, I thought you guys didn't want to play last. It's the Fingers (country band with two guys from my band), then you, then the other band, then my band goes last.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

We didn't want to, but I thought we were anyway. Yay!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm cold. I wish I had the baby blanket with me that I ordered for a coworker's shower.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

I'm cold too, which I'm usually not, but my new office is in the basement.

Do you have any idea what time you guys are going to get into town next week?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

I'm also buying her a monkey. I'm addicted to these things:
http://www.jellycat.com/images/monkeys.jpg

Do you have any little windows down there or is it fully underground?

I have no idea. I just emailed N&B. We're traveling in two separate vehicles this time, thank god, because Amy is coming. What time should we be there?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, there are windows fortunately. The building is on a hill, so this half of the basement is actually on ground level.

What time should we be there?

Officially you're supposed to setup at 8:45 and hit at 9:00, so whatever works for that.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

Working is boring.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

I miss Carolina BBQ sauce. Everywhere else in the country, and even the western part of NC, they put sweet Bullseye-type sauce on the pulled pork, which is a crime against the porcine delectables. What this world needs is more real vinegary E. NC BBQ sauce.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

I love the smell of BBQ.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

I love the taste of pulled pork. My side item is mustard greens which are wonderful. They too contain pork!

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

I am going out for Calvin's BBQ tonight.

Last night I planned on surprising Kr by showing up outside the Newberry Library by the time her seminar (on Chicago journalism) ended at 7:45. When 8 rolled around, and she wasn't in the group of people leaving, I called her and found out that she had left early and was already home. :(

But the evening got better when we ordered from Yes Thai and then got stoned and listened to Grizzly Bear and played Taboo.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

I don't remember ever having been in the Red Lion.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

Red Lion != Lion's Head

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

New Grizzly Bear album is pretty awesome, btw. Like the prettier, less manic side of Animal Collective.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

So crazy that Grizzly Bear played between you guys and SYGC in Texas.

I love the smell inside Smokin' Woody's (Lincoln near Montrose).

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that is weird.

Apparently Calvin's is owned by the same dude who runs Smokin' Woody's.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, then I want to try it!

There used to be a theater up near Woody's where I would have to see bad shows for my work - but having the lingering flavor of a BBQ pit in my mouth for the duration of a three-hour play made it more tolerable.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

I meant Lion's Head. I don't remember being there ever.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

There were so many ultra-cheap dinner and beer deals on Lincoln last night. I could get into weeknight Lincoln Park barhopping - the places are pretty empty anyway.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

I'm way too hung over considering that I had 4 drinks all night last night. They were strong, but still, this sucks.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

I am going out for Calvin's BBQ tonight.

What do you eat for BBQ?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

Fried okra, mac and cheese, cornbread, cole slaw.

Greens if they're vegetarian -- probably not, though.

I think they have a veggie burger there, too.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

I've done what Kevin did last night. Got on at Grand, woke up at Howard, 95th and then Howard again. Finally made it to Argyle at 6 AM, short 1 wallet.

xpost: why are you going there?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

Restaurant Club.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

I made a purchase at Banana Republic and it showed up on my bank statement as "Gap." Are they connected?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 29 September 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

yes. owned by one and the same. as is old navy. the different stores go after different markets (at different price points) but all the money funnels back to the same till.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Hierarchy:

BANANA REPUBLIC
THE GAP
OLD NAVY

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

I did not know that BR was in that family. I love BR. JCrew can be nice too. Express Men is OK, but Structure was better.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 29 September 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Express owns The Body Shop. Did you know THAT?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 29 September 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Guess who has off for YOM KIPPUR on Monday?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

I GUESS "NOT ME".

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 29 September 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

"NOT ME" TOO

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc, why do you get off work for Yom Kippur?
-- Jordan (jordan...), October 11th, 2005 12:30 PM. (Jordan) (link)

I don't know, maybe the owner of the company is Jewish?
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), October 11th, 2005 1:26 PM. (jaymc) (link)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get work off for Yom Kippur.
-- giboyeux (in....), October 11th, 2005 12:36 PM. (skowly) (link)


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Neither do I. Although my boss said I could have it off if I could really convince him that I would be in a synangogue/fasting for most of the day. I could not convince him.

-- Lion-O (adamr...), October 11th, 2005 12:42 PM. (nordicskilla) (link)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

i have monday off for COLUMBUS DAY.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

Columbus Day isn't until the 9th, freakazoid.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

wait, that's the next week. i have monday off because i'll be a thousand miles away in the woods peeping leaves and trying not to get eaten by a bear.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

apparently, j.crew doesn't do sweat shopping like br, gap, etc.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

this will really only be 'news' to john & EZ, but guess who is reading tomorrow night at The Loft? Na0mi Shihab ny3!!

I'm totally going! I've been waiting to see her for years & I missed the boat when she came through MI when I was in college.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Que es The Loft?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

I have no days off until Thanksgiving. :(

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

it's like a writing center. they have classes & gatherings & events & such. it's a neat place.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

That's cool about N.S. Nye, the science guy poet lady.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm super excited about it.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 29 September 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Grizzly Bear is ok but too pretty for me.

Today is turning out ok for me: found the first Suicide album at Evil Clown after looking for it for a few weeks to no avail, and FINALLY FINALLY got the check from the SDFCU (State Dept. Fucking Credit Union) that I mentioned before.

BTW, I ran into Kr1sta and, I'm guessing, her parents at Costellos.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 29 September 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, it was her parents. They're helping her move.

When did Evil Clown relocate to Lincoln Sq.? I drove by the other day and was like "wha?" I've never been there -- worth it? The first Suicide album is good.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, they actually have a really good selection - I think I posted about it a few months ago, I think. Recommended.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Oh SHIT! I'm just reading People Mag and I NEVER KNEW THAT FERGIE WAS STACEY FROM KIDS INCORPORATED. How did I not know this?! I don't listen to her band (or the radio) at all, I guess.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

I like that other record store alot... Planet of Sound??

Ha ha. Laurel, that's how I felt when I found out.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

I love what I've heard of Grizzly Bear.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

The last track on the Grizzly Bear album is CHOICE. Maybe I'll post it on CHILXXXXX.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

DO IT!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

laurie's planet of sound is awesome.

i thought you meant sarah ferguson, i take fergie is a pop starlet? hopefully named after former chicago cub fergie jenkens.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

Fergie is the gal from Black Eyed Peas who likes to pee her pants on-stage. She also has a "solo" "hit" that sounds like Missy Elliott or M.I.A. or some shit, despite being neither black nor Sri Lankan.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

you're kidding me?! fergie is stacey? I just don't see it!!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

She sang that MY HUMPS song. Surely that song did not escape your notice??

You can listen to alot of Grizzly Bear on their site. That last song is great!

Are you kidding about the peeing, John?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

the ubiquity of that my humps cell phone commercial drove me up a wall. i know who she is, never knew her name.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

I can't believe how many people haven't heard the peeing story! I thought it was like one of the three or four things people knew about the BEPs.

http://www.maxwellshouselive.com/photos/randompics/fergie_pee_stain.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

OMG. The Kids Incorporated site has a whole bunch of their songs!
http://www.kidsincorporated.us/

Why the hell is that other BEP getting all up in it?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Check out track 19 - Stacey singing Take Me Home. Memmmorriiieesss...

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, they are all pretty entertaining.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Where has that cooze Jenny been all day? She's off work and school on Fridays, so what's she doing not posting or IMing?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

doesn't she have that panel today?
was that today?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

jenny's probably at the holiday club getting her courage up.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

Yesterday I think?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

i have a mental image of her sitting alone at one of the tables battling her insecurity, hands clammy wrapped around a tumbler full of vodka on the rocks, muttering to herself "you can DO this!... you can DO THIS jenny!" before taking a pull off her drink as her eyes dart around the room to see if anyone has caught her in her moment of secret shame.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

dang, there goes my mental image.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

it's today.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

mental image BACK ON!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

Eazy (and others): stream the new Hold Steady album

I PREDICT: I will want to like it but be unable to get into it.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

they're shutting down our servers in 15 minutes, will i get to go home early???? *fingers crossed*

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

This live set on the second cd of the Suicide album is pretty intense. After every song, half the crowd is cheering and the other half is booing and shrieking.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Dang yo. I'm so sleepy.

I walked 5 miles yesterday -- from my office to the FQ around there a bit and back.

But then I cheated a little bit and ate some ice cream which wasn't in the caloric budget (topped with peanut butter).

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like the Hold Steady.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

i can not wait to get home and jump into my bed. i'd been thinking how the big bed was making me kind of sad lately but today it's going to feel like an affectionate masseusse. (sp?)

i'll put on some johnny taylor and sleep sleep sleeeeeep this day away.


then get up and go to the bar again.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

I have the most boring weekend ever planned. Tonight is gym, read, sleep. Tomorrow is read, come into work, go see friend's gypsy swing band (not boring). Sunday is ????.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

Me too with the sleeping...but I don't think I'll be hitting the dance floor again tonight. Although I feel better than I expected and could probably handle a couple of drinks in a pinch. Better to crash and stay crashed.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

i have to deliver a birthday present, i'm not going to be out all night. i have a plane to catch in the morning and would prefer not to oversleep and miss it.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

This live set on the second cd of the Suicide album is pretty intense. After every song, half the crowd is cheering and the other half is booing and shrieking.

Haha, you know, I've never listened to that CD.

I don't really like LIVE RECORDINGS.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

tonight leaf & I might go see 'half nelson.' tomorrow i may meander over to the fair grounds to check out some humungo church garage sale and then see n.s. nye, of course. the rest of the weekend is up in the air.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 29 September 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Oh!! Kels! Half Nelson is really great! Hard to watch, at times, but very deftly done. Great no-name case all around, too.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

case s/b CAST

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I thought it was superb.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

My Gawd, how I will sleep! I wish I had TV so I could turn it on and fall asleep in the middle of a show. I might put on a movie I've seen a lot and do the same. Ugh. Want to do it now!

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

I think live records by bands that are normally play acoustically are better than those of other bands (and better than the studio records often).

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

i'm feeling hungry but i ate mac & cheese for lunch & so i feel as though i don't calorically deserve a snack. is this fucked up or sensible?

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Fucked up but I do it too.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Have fruit? Maybe you are dehydrated and secretly just need water? There's not enough water in the world to make me better, today.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

i'm feeling hungry but i ate mac & cheese for lunch

i have been craving mac & cheese from feed for two days now.
i want baked mac & cheese in worst way. maybe i'll stop at mac's on the way home and order some to go.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

there may also be some fries and gravy in my future.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

later gators, i'm out of here.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

Pickles are a great low-cal snack.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

God, last winter I would make a huge bowl of baked mac & cheese (with penne pasta and like 1/2 a pound of cheese) and eat like half of it. Best leftovers ever.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

i LOVE homemade mac & cheese. whenever i make it, i throw in a ton of veggies & sometimes tofu just to alleviate the guilt factor.
i've been drinking a ton of water. maybe i'll just eat like, 5 almonds & see what that does for me.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

also, i LOVE pickles. i'm really into nathan's pickles at the moment . . . the brand "famous for hotdogs" also makes great pickles. my favorite kind of grilled cheese sandwich is with cheddar, tomatoes, pickles & mustard.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

Five almonds, oh man. I've been snacking non-stop all day, I think your fullness mechanism doesn't work when you're overtired. Also to keep self awake with big tastes.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

it was a dumb idea. i ate three & thought, "this is NOT what i want right now."

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

TAMARI ALMONDS.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

mine are raw & plain.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

oh shit, homemade mac and cheese. i've only ever had the real stuff a few times because my family just did the kraft stuff when i was growing up. it would be sooo good with tofu and veggies.

Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

Do it, it's sooo easy. Maybe I will make some tonight!

What kind of veggies do you use, Kelsey? I always put a ton of tomatoes in but I don't know what else would be good. Mushrooms?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 29 September 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

I just had 2 oz. of champagne in a styrofoam cup as a reward for completing this project I've been working on for the better part of a year. NOW I JUST WANT MORE ALCOHOL.

I will be at the Green Eye at Western/Armitage at 6:30 PM.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 21:06 (nineteen years ago)

LURKERS PLS TO SHOW UP SO YOU CAN GET A MOUTHFUL OF KNUCKLES

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

A little chin music, see?

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Friday, 29 September 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)

I have never been to the Green Eye. This is really tempting. I have to be on the blue line tonight, anyway.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Friday, 29 September 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I'm only going to be there for a half hour. Then it's BBQ time.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 29 September 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

oh. Nevermind. I'm always missing you.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Friday, 29 September 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone recommend a good Photoshop alternative that is free?

Anyone recommend a good Photoshop alternative that is free?

Anyone recommend a good Photoshop alternative that is free?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 29 September 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry about that.

I downloaded something called Saint Paint. We'll see how that works out for me.

I would like to take a Photoshop class. It's supposed to be pretty easy but I find it mind-boggling.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 29 September 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

WEEKNED

deej.. (deej..), Friday, 29 September 2006 22:35 (nineteen years ago)

Photoshop isn't easy. The interface isn't as good as, for instance, Fireworks. It's one of those programs that has so many features, nobody can figure out where to put them, so they just kept tacking new ones onto old tools until it's kind of a baffling mess.

That said, once you get it, it's the best. I use it every day, for hours a day. I can get you a copy and give you a lesson if you want.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Friday, 29 September 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/celeb_matches.jpg

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Friday, 29 September 2006 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan looks like dudes with glasses.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

That's just my disguise.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

I actually look like Audrey Hepburn, but I got tired of people telling me that.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 00:27 (nineteen years ago)

I'm doing one now.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago)

There's a thread for it now.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 00:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/93/255998853_daae81c98e.jpg?v=0

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

The panel went well. I got to refute some free market capitalist bullshit from the president of the retail merchants' association. I got some applause. I didn't say much during the panel part because Mr. Freemarkets was a big fat loudmouth. I did not drink before but I did drink afterward at the Sky Ride Cocktail Lounge with the Good Emily - from 4:30 until Emily got there just after five, I was the only female patron in what was a pretty full bar. It is not a gay bar. That was a little weird. They play terrible music in there.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 30 September 2006 01:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/102/255735813_93a273b4bf.jpg

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 30 September 2006 01:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/109/256016763_26b8757cc5.jpg?v=0

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 30 September 2006 01:15 (nineteen years ago)

I'll take the French cabaret singer. The rest of those pears can fuck right off.

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 30 September 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't say much [...] because Mr. Freemarkets was a big fat loudmouth.

Surely this is the story of your professional life, summed up in a neat package.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 01:21 (nineteen years ago)

Hell, it's the story of all our big fat American lives, innit?

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 01:22 (nineteen years ago)

deep.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 01:30 (nineteen years ago)

I hope it's not the story of my professional life. Like, seriously, I'm all for a debate, but he wouldn't let anybody talk and he got really loud and took things very personally (Don't tell me about being poor! My sister is on welfare and she has a variable rate mortgage and her bum of a husband doesn't support her! I know poor! - in response to the suggestion that his concerns that the Big Box Living Wage Ordinance might have on variable rate mortgage rates is a little far removed from the actual workers who stand to benefit immediately from getting paid $10/hour + benefits). So basically, I just figured he was doing a better job making himself look like an asshole much better than I could by saying anything and I just let him go. Plus the alderman on the panel was talking a lot on the pro-wage side so there wasn't much I even needed to say.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 30 September 2006 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a little more of a nihilist than you are, Jenny, which makes me unqualified for your job right there, apart from not having law experience. I just thought it was beautiful that Mr. Freemarkets was the loud one, because he has the most indefensible bullshit to defend, so... naturally.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have a good picture of myself. The ones I have are not facing forward, or they are obscured.

My best match was David Beckham, which, while quite flattering, I don't really get.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 30 September 2006 03:59 (nineteen years ago)

On a clearer photo I got Hal Sparks. Why am I only getting 1 match?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 30 September 2006 04:02 (nineteen years ago)

Here we go.

http://69.93.254.120/G/storage/site1/files/25/52/05/255205_1836301eafd154341mv806.jpg

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 30 September 2006 04:05 (nineteen years ago)

I think I resemble Shahid Kapoor (Who TF is that?) and some parts of Mr. Rossdale's face. Not the nose or lips. I might have Topher's eyes. John Mayer? Maybe the face shape.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 30 September 2006 04:06 (nineteen years ago)

Holy shit I do not remember this fucking picture.

http://static.flickr.com/14/16330214_4dc2ac1166_o.jpg

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 30 September 2006 04:11 (nineteen years ago)

I do remember this though. Jenny's brasierre.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 30 September 2006 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

oops.

http://static.flickr.com/3/2339485_881074e07e.jpg?v=0

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 30 September 2006 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://69.93.254.120/G/storage/site1/files/25/54/53/255453_2541632bdfd154yro5mf06.jpg

Haha!

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 30 September 2006 04:17 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah and I saw "The Science of Sleep" last night with Ben and Amy, and it's really good. Not quite as good as Eternal Sunshine (lacks some of the emotional heft) but some amazing special effects, set design, visual concepts, whatever. The main dude, from Y Tu Mama Tambien, is decent, but Charlotte Gainsbourg is excellent, and I liked the shift in tone through the movie.

Then we went and saw Eric rock it hardcore at the Ice Factory singer-songwriter night. Hardcore.

n/a (Nick A.), Saturday, 30 September 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

I still haven't seen Eternal Sunshine.

I am at work now.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ Condie + Kurt

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

jordan, to answer your question:
mushrooms, broccoli, onions, garlic, rosemary or basil, tomatoes . . . whatever we have around is what I throw in. spinach is a good one. i think we even threw taters in once, but it was kind of starch overload.

i saw half nelson last night . . . fucking intense! amazing acting!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Saturday, 30 September 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

It's really beautiful and crisp here today and I work up early and could go do things, but I'm inexplicably blubbery and mopey. Feels like it doesn't matter what effort I make, someone will come along and undo/negate it anyway. Stupid, right?? I think just forcing myself to start a chore will help.

Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 30 September 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

Kels, I'm so glad you were moved by it! Not that a person could NOT be, it is certainly intense.

Laurel (Laurel), Saturday, 30 September 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

I still don't really know what I think about it, to be honest. I think I'm having a hard time loving the film b/c the subject matter is so rough . . . if that makes sense.

leaf & i got up super early (7-ish) this morning to go to a yard sale thingy at the state fair. it was a jesus sale as it was run by the junior league. we went looking for bookshelves, instead we bought misc. crap-o-la. then we went to this salvation army-type place called "the st33pl3 people" & bought more misc crap. my brother called me at 9 & left a very drunken message. it was 6 a.m. his time & he made a point to tell me NOT to call him back b/c he'll be asleep and hungover.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Saturday, 30 September 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

That does sound good. Except for broccoli.

i saw half nelson last night . . . fucking intense! amazing acting!

Yeah? I really want to go see a movie this afternoon, but there's not a lot of exciting options now it seems. I've got Half-Nelson, Crank, and Science of Sleep on the list. Maybe Black Dahlia?

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

i still haven't seen Little Miss Sunshine & even though i've heard a mixed bag of things, it seems like it would be worth seeing.

Half Nelson is kind of intense . . . I just have to warn you.

I also think that my viewing of that movie was altered b/c I worked at a place that did interventions for addicts over the summer.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Saturday, 30 September 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://69.93.254.120/G/storage/site1/files/26/34/96/263496_5434767169e1549u38py01.jpg

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Saturday, 30 September 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

interesting . . . .

http://69.93.254.120/G/storage/site1/files/26/36/49/263649_8701215f79e1541efoxq01.jpg

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Saturday, 30 September 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

http://69.93.254.120/G/storage/site1/files/26/48/88/264888_3434341d5ae154v8h2jw12.jpg

I look like dudes with glasses.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 30 September 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Smirking dudes with glasses.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 30 September 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Good emo band name.

Argh, I had good intentions coming to work today, but there are bug issues that preventing me from getting anything meaningful done. I think I will just go see movies.

(full disclosure: M is moving things out of the apartment with her dad today and I agreed to stay out of the way)

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

I like to smirk.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

I just found this great picture of Swiss pizza (uh, on our website):
http://us.a2.yahoofs.com/users/43fb2330z3d95d5d/4ecare2/__sr_/fe51re2.jpg?phAPrHFBX.7edpME

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

http://us.a2.yahoofs.com/users/43fb2330z3d95d5d/4ecare2/__sr_/bae4re2.jpg?phAPrHFBvOV9RqUp

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

On Science of Sleep:

Not quite as good as Eternal Sunshine (lacks some of the emotional heft)

Of course there are parallels, but I don't think SOS lacks emotional heft. I think it's about a different kind of person. Joel in Eternal Sunshine was self-indulgent, but in a way that's pretty normal for someone his age in these... uh... troubled times. He's emotionally stunted, he's socially paralyzed... it happens. It happens a lot. (Hell, it happens to me.)

Stephan seems like more of a personal character for Gondry. This guy isn't just paralyzed (though he's certainly that), he's actually crazy. Everyone tries to makes sense of the world around them by way of their imagnation. We all relate to that. But the line between "creativity" and "nuts" is what Gondry is getting at here. Stefan crosses that line. He's not exactly boyfriend material. But he is a good example of a certain state of mind gone off the tracks.

I really loved this movie.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

i look like aki halkala as well. i tried another pic and it said robert deniro. I DO NOT LOOK LIKE ROBERT DENIRO.

Juulia (julesbdules), Saturday, 30 September 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

now it says i look like william shatner, adam ant, and sir edmund hillary.

Juulia (julesbdules), Saturday, 30 September 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I think it's hilarious that I look like Condi. Clara Bow too.

I love that site.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 30 September 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

oh, i got eddie murphy too. it's because there was a pic of him in glasses.

ooo, different picture of myself: now it says i look like macauley culkin, nicole kidman, and weird al yankovic. also, sophia loren and shakira.

Juulia (julesbdules), Saturday, 30 September 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Me and Weird Al share a birfday. I always liked Weird Al.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

i look like william shatner, adam ant, and sir edmund hillary.

I love you.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Saturday, 30 September 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Please to posting pics, Julia.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 30 September 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

i had my settings different somehow so that i didn't get that whole circle of pics like everyone else. maybe my matches weren't close enough.

really, i don't look that much like william shatner.

Juulia (julesbdules), Saturday, 30 September 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://69.93.254.120/G/storage/site1/files/26/78/59/267859_147418846ce154lmvcxe02.jpg

Juulia (julesbdules), Saturday, 30 September 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

http://69.93.254.120/G/storage/site1/files/26/78/73/267873_503054866ce1540l278h13.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 30 September 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://69.93.254.120/G/storage/site1/files/26/80/37/268037_890521218ce15409qb0t02.jpg

i can't remember what pics of myself i was using to get the other results.

xp--nice.

Juulia (julesbdules), Saturday, 30 September 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

i love how without beard I am some asian guy & dennis quaid & with the beard I am renee zellweger.

julia & i might be related somehow b/c we both got paula abdul!

i think julia got some of the best people, by the way. you're the only one to get angelina jolie (-pitt)!! plus, hilary swank is totally my girl celebrity crush AND you got gisele. damn. i'm jealous!!

LOVE that john got travis barker!!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Saturday, 30 September 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

i'm a total dork. i wanted to see if celebrities actually ended up looking like themselves...

http://69.93.254.120/G/storage/site1/files/27/05/00/270500_7010147a3ee154c9ufct01.jpg

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Saturday, 30 September 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

I have been curious about this as well, but I've not gotten around to trying it out.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 30 September 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

Carrie voted the best movie ever.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 30 September 2006 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

What a great way to get work done. I'm at Envie coffee shop (which is apparently a restaurant that turns into a coffee shop during the off-season) being a good worker bee. It's pretty much unlit except for a 15 watt lamp on my table and the glow of laptops.

I'm starving.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 30 September 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

Eat something.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 1 October 2006 00:24 (nineteen years ago)

MUST GET THIN. NOT EATING EVER AGAIN.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 1 October 2006 00:43 (nineteen years ago)

I have been subsisting on coffee all day. Yes, I can in fact see through time!

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 1 October 2006 00:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm DONE with the Cubs for this year.

Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 1 October 2006 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

They break your heart again? You can sing to a lepard but you can't make him hear.

There are soooo many cute short men in this place! With their girlfriends! One particularly savory-looking one started speaking Spanish to some people looking for help.

Did you guys know that it is hard work to kill an email address? What a stupid pain in my ass. brownstone must DIE!

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 1 October 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

It's just that they are such teases.

Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 1 October 2006 01:45 (nineteen years ago)

Remember: "No" means "Eat me out first."

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 1 October 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

Also, remember: "HONK IF YOU LOVE JESUS, AND I'LL BACK INTO YOU."

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 1 October 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

I just got done helping Kr move into her new place. Now we're gonna go to Eazy's party -- as soon as she takes a shower.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 1 October 2006 02:42 (nineteen years ago)

Is she VERY dirty?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 1 October 2006 03:05 (nineteen years ago)

Dammit. I'm bored and terribly awake. I took a sleeping pill, but I got a belly full of shrimps, so it'll never hit my brain.

Doing the race for The Cure tomorrow, and it's gonna be hot again. My Forecastfox has a little thermometer with red heat waves radiating off of it.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 1 October 2006 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

What kind of shrimps?

I saw a friend's gypsy jazz group tonight (Robert B3ll from Mpls), sat in on snare drum & brushes, went to a swing dancer after-party, and got a girl's digits tonight. Crazy. I think she might be too Jewish for me though.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 07:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, Daisy Fuentes. I remember her.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 07:10 (nineteen years ago)

What kind of shrimps?

I'm pretty ashamed to tell you.

went to bubba gump's on decatur and got the crab-stuffed shrimp. my defense is that i couldn't find parking where i wanted to go, which was the Clover Grill for one of their fucking amazing hamburgers, which i earned through a day of starvation.

I vote for Clover Grill for "Best Gay-Prepared Hamburger in New Orleans."

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 1 October 2006 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, Jesse. Please tell me you'll go to Broadview before you leave town.

What do people think of this ("decorative") couch?

http://c.im.craigslist.org/5G/I6/9jaiIAFIthlmidGElMRS8nlhYQ3X.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

What's Broadview?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 1 October 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

That's an ugly couch.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 1 October 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

It's ugly, but if it's real cheap or free, I'd accept it into my home.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 1 October 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

That'e the kind of "nice" furniture that my Aunt Dorothy would have in her meticulously clean double-wide trailer.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

So much for that one, then. I'm just looking for the cheapest couches on craigslist that aren't black leather.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, Broadview Seafood is my favorite place in NO for po' boys, crawfish, and whatnot. It is great, and cheap.

http://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&lr=&q=broadview+seafood&near=New+Orleans,+LA&radius=0.0&cid=29954444,-90075000,2850061615406523668&li=lmd&z=14&t=m

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you for your continuing couch honesty.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think that one is that bad. At least it's not that awful Southwestern-pastel color scheme. And if you find a couch that's clean, comfortable, and structurally sound, you can always get a slip cover for it. These cheap-ass BB&B ones are okay. That what we used to hide our hideously deformed and cat hair covered couch for years and years and in blatant disregard for instructions, I washed and dried it a ton of times. It wasn't beautiful, but it was better looking than our couch.

Speaking of couches... Room and Board has informed us that our couch has been "delayed" and wont be delivered until the end of OCTOBER. WAH.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 1 October 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

Room and Board

Now those are some hip couches. Now if only someone would sell one on the classifieds for a hundred bucks.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Good Christ! How can a couch take so long?! You should get credit or something.

Today:

- Did the 5K Race for the Cure. Before that there was a 1 mile race, which my roommate and I walked as warmup.

I did the 3.2 miles in 40:33, which was not bad when you consider that the first 5 minutes were spent in a mob of people who barely had room to shuffle, much less run. Of the race, I ran 2.5 miles of it.

The race took place in City Park which is one big lowland cut with bayou, so it was muggy and mosquito-y.

- Ate brunch at a great little place in the Quarter called Eat. I had shrimp and grits, and got to taste the fried green tomoatoes. It was all very good.

(The S&G were not like others I have had--they were in a garlic butter sauce with sauteed mushrooms.)

Tonight I am going to tag along to an evening mass and then my roommates and I are either going to see The Science of Sleep or go to a gay bar for an 80's sing-along.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 1 October 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and at the end of the race? Zea T's was serving red beans and rice with hot sauce and Abita was giving out free beer. I abstained. That was a repulsive prospect at 10 AM in the sodden heat after running 3 miles.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 1 October 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

What I want for my birthday: to see The Hold Steady at the Metro on 10.26 with some of you. I just decided.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 21:31 (nineteen years ago)

New album: pretty damn good, but not as many instant anthems as the last one.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)

It's also a little darker, more regret-filled, if that's possible. Not that that's a bad thing.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

DUDE THAT'S THE NIGHT BEFORE XIU XIU.

Jeff. (Jeff), Sunday, 1 October 2006 21:39 (nineteen years ago)

Worst news all year: I'm going to be in New Orleans the night Xiu Xiu plays! That sucks so unbelievably fucking badly.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 1 October 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago)

Xiu Xiu will come back again and we'll go see them when they do, I promise.

The Hold Steady is one song about New Jersey away from being a Bruce Springsteen record.

xpost - OMG

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Sunday, 1 October 2006 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

The Hold Steady is one song about New Jersey away from being a Bruce Springsteen record.

They always were, though, right? Btw - I like Bruce Springsteen records.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)

I'm downloading "Born in the USA" right now. I haven't heard this record in years. I wonder if it's as awesome as I remember it.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 22:50 (nineteen years ago)

:)

It is. "I'm On Fire" still gives me chills.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

Who is in the first pic?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 1 October 2006 23:16 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, apparently Youngbl00d was on Air America yesterday.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Craig Finn, of that band you don't like.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)

He looks like some guy from the Spike Lee documentary.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 1 October 2006 23:24 (nineteen years ago)

He looks like me in ten years and twenty pounds.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

ooh... I can't wait to get jowly!

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Sunday, 1 October 2006 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

LET'S. GET. JOWLY.

I'm listening to iTunes samples of 8 million versions of 'I Got a Woman'. Bobby Darin, Booker T., Elvis!

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 2 October 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

Johnny Cash...a Jimmy McGriff versions where the chords don't change...Jose Feliciano...the Monkees...

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 2 October 2006 01:56 (nineteen years ago)

Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated. However, I am now Asian.
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jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 2 October 2006 04:07 (nineteen years ago)

That's a great pic of you, Jocelyn!

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Monday, 2 October 2006 04:10 (nineteen years ago)

I saw the Science of Sleep, and I thought it was great, but my personal response to it was somewhat negative as it reminded me of times when I have been really depressed and slept for most of the hours of many days in a row. During those periods I sometimes had trouble telling the difference between dreams and reality (in more mundane ways than in SoS). Not something I like to relive, even in a good movie.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 2 October 2006 04:32 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think it's supposed to be a happy movie. I loved it, too.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Monday, 2 October 2006 04:36 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know how to get this so it's not all fuzzy, but here's my celebrity thing. (i hope.)

http://69.93.254.120/G/storage/site1/files/30/53/19/305319_0529456a4a0254n8xub415.jpg

i just got back from austin. i had perhaps one of the worst flight experiences coming back though--short flight, 1 hr., from Phoenix to Orange Co., but the little girl behind me was incredibly annoying--kicking my seat, etc. The problem was that her mother was much worse--I just wanted to turn around and say "You're a bad parent," but I didn't think that would faze her. Since I couldn't think of anything pithy, I just didn't say anything--my exacerbated sighs seemed to have little effect on getting her to STFU.

robots in love (robotsinlove), Monday, 2 October 2006 04:39 (nineteen years ago)

haha, so the luke wilson resemblance is proven BY SCIENCE.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 2 October 2006 04:45 (nineteen years ago)

if it had also said david arquette than i would be really impressed.

robots in love (robotsinlove), Monday, 2 October 2006 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

grizzly bear song is on the chilx blog now.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 2 October 2006 05:35 (nineteen years ago)

JESSE, would I like SoS?

Jeff. (Jeff), Monday, 2 October 2006 10:55 (nineteen years ago)

Yellow House is a beautiful album in its own right, and required listening not just for fans of Horn of Plenty, but for anyone who enjoys ambitious, creative music with an emotional undercurrent.

I was with the review until this part, too bad I hate emotional undercurrents.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 2 October 2006 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

while "Colorado" closes Yellow House with wide expanses of vocal harmonies and mountainous tympani.

Also there are no tympanis in that song.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 2 October 2006 11:16 (nineteen years ago)

http://69.93.254.120/G/storage/site1/files/31/20/66/312066_741896ffe11254pmn0lu14.jpg

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Monday, 2 October 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

I look like two of the hottest guys in the world! BOO YAH!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Monday, 2 October 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, please consider accepting my apologies for flaking out on ANTM last night -- I know you loathe flakiness, but I remembered too late and then was too ashamed to call. I'm sorry.

I'm also sorry to report that my celebrity lookalike was Bryan Ferry. Grizzled, not young. :(

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

But he's so cool! Somehow the program recognized your coolosity.

Don't worry about not coming. Brooke, Katie & Jody turned up, so it was a party. Also, Nick is ecstatic that we have so much pizza left over. :-D

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Monday, 2 October 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

Oh good -- did I miss anything? MMMmmmm pizza.

I am cooking NC bbq in my crockpot RIGHT NOW. It will be ready in 7 hours.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

Not too much. Did you watch from home?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Monday, 2 October 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

I am cooking NC bbq in my crockpot RIGHT NOW. It will be ready in 7 hours.

Wow. What's all up in there? I've never done the slow cooking thing.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 2 October 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Woah...judging from my bank account, I totally got a raise. Like, the sort of raise that should prevent me from complaining about work for a while.

Maybe I'll buy a non-ugly couch.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

Yay, Jordan!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

My job is a pain in my ass today. I'm going to spend the next few hours comparing one spreadsheet to another and taking out dupes. This is not my freakin' job.

My boss is out, I brought my own 'puter, and am connected through wireless, so ILX activity is undetectable. Hi, people!

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, Kenan!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

I watched a little from home -- looked like the twins are redheads now and Monique is still a world-class bitchisaurus.

As for the bbq, I will email you the recipe if you want, J. I adapted it from a recipe intended for a smoker, which I totally do not have the time, room, or patience for.

Hiya Kenan. I listened to "Different Drum" today and thought of you.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

K., isn't there a clever programmy way to look for dupes?

Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

That would be great, Amanda. Or post it on the blog!

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

I listened to "Different Drum" today and thought of you.

Different Drum is my iTunes network name.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

I am the EYE IN THE SKY.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Are you the maker of rules?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

I have made Amanda's BBQ recipe and it is good. If I were to make it again, I would probably use less meat or more sauce. But otherwise? Tasty.

And there is an easy way to look for dupes in a spreadsheet, but I can't remember what it is. I'll see if I can find it.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - I am not going to pretend that I don't like that song. I do. It reminds me of being marooned at day camp in the summertime.

RE: BBQ
Yeah -- it makes a LOT OF MEAT, but it stays good for a while, so you can have bbq lunches for a whole week. (If you can stand to eat the same thing everyday for a week.) I would recommend halving for one person or for two people eating one meal.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

I am the EYE IN THE SKY.

goddamn you for putting the alan parsons project in my head.
ok, i've got to start gathering up my stuff and making my way to the airport so i can get back to chicago.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

tee hee

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Here's a tip: have a cigarette or four before getting on the plane.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I too am now aurally haunted by the APP.

I don't need to see any more to know that I can read your mind...

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Here's a tip: have a cigarette or four before getting on the plane.

i'm actually having my sister drop me off a half hour early so i can chain smoke before going through security. if i don't get nicotine poisoning on the way home i'll be surprised.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Don't say words you're going to regret.
Don't let the fire rush to your head.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Love,
Alan Parsons

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

xp
i now

a)have that song in my head
b)have mad mad mad craving for good bbq

and it is all your fault, amanda.

i'm sleeping a hell of a lot lately. i like sleeping, but it's odd. i had a dream i was on project runway and i had to sew the arms on this garment but everything kept going wrong (and also i can't really sew decently). so i was all, tim gunn, save me!

despite my incompetence, they voted someone else off, some boring character. and then i woke up.

Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

My apologies. But someone needs to bring up Alan Parsons every now and then. If not me, who? If not now, when?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

uhm, amanda, i vote for no one and never.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh FINE.

But don't think sorry's easily said.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

girl you are working my last nerve.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Me: 1
Otto: 0

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Giggle giggle!

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Can we please move on to something cooler, like ELO?

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

Asia?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Don't answer me, stay on your island, don't let me in...

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know any of those bands, making me TOTALLY SAFE from the nostalgic contamination.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh, I get a strange magic.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002VCO.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg
http://www.lyred.com/covers/alan_parsons_project_-_vulture_culture.jpg

I owned these Alan Parsons records.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

When someone listens to wussy prog rock, we all pay.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

You probably bought them in the heat of the moment. It shone in your eyes.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

Lord, please deliver me from wussy prog rock.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

You be quiet or I'm going to put Jon Anderson on my shoulders and we're going to come over and punch you in the chest.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 2 October 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff: I have some doubts as to whether you would like SoS.

Amanda:
- What do you mean NC BBQ is heavy on meat? It should be ALL meat.
- Does it involve the geniune NC BBQ sauce? (vinegar, brown sugar, pepper, etc)

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Me? Porque?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

"heavy on meat" meaning that it called for 2 lbs of pork, which is a lot of meat. it is ALL MEAT. i smell it cooking right now.

and yes, the dry ingredients make the rub (paprika, cayenne, salt, pepper, brown sugar) and then it cooks in the mop (apple cider vinegar, water, salt, pepper, little bit of oil).

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yum.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

My goodness, I could eat 2 lb of pork about right now.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff: I have some doubts as to whether you would like SoS.

What, don't you think he's emotionally unhealthy enough?

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

OH! I thought Jeff asked about SoS.

Jenny, you would probably like it. When I watch movies I now have a damn mini-Jenny in my head going "Is that misogyny?" And in this movie I did not pick up on any.

Gael is always hot, and broken boys are great, but he would be more than I could ever deal with in real life.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

julia: i've been sleeping a lot too. i sleep enough hours but then this weekend, I also took 2 hour naps and then went to bed at a reasonable hour. in fact, were i not at work, i would nap right now. maybe it's the weather changing?!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

fyi: leaf & I watched "roadhouse" last night & "The Swayz" was quite something.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Wait. Jeff did ask. I'm confused. But I think I have made clear who will and who will not like this movie.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 2 October 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

WHAT ABOUT ME

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

You'll see it anyway.

My winter beard is coming in quickly. Soon I will be a beardo.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

you were certainly scruffy this weekend. i'll be curious about how a beard looks.

maybe it is the weather, kelsey. my body kind of wants to hibernate.

Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

It's raining up here in the RP.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

The movie looks like it might be too emo for me.

My beard sense is broken. I just shaved my summer beard in preparation for the coming winter.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone ever ordered online from Ikea?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

I've considered it but never gone through with it. The shipping is INSANE.

Are you looking at couches?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, i'd looked around the website, choked at the thought of the shipping expenses, and never went back.

does someone want a futon cushion btw? we're just going to throw it out otherwise...i just don't want to deal with freecycle these days.

Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Are you looking at couches?

Yes! But insane shipping costs don't turn me on.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

I'm tempted to take the futon cushion since we're going to be couchless for 24 days more than planned, but the thought of going to get it and bringing it here and then discarding it when the couch does come makes sitting on a pile of bed pills for three more weeks seem pretty okay.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, my flight is delayed and i'm fucked up on tanqueray at the albany airport. someone amuse me, PLEAZSE!!!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

How long is your flight delayed? How are you being on the internets?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

And for god's sake, why Tanqueray??

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

Why not? What's wrong with gin?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

oh amanda you are such a little minx. right now there's a song stuck in my head and i'm not even sure how to spell the words to the lyrics of it. i think i'ts that kyrie song by mister mr.

i'm totally flierting with some dude's wife ta this bar and HER HUSBSAND IS SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO HER!!!!

next time you see me if i have a black eye you'll know why.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

I think Tanqueray is okay for G&Ts, especially in an airport.

I saw Mr. Mister at the Delaware State Fair when I was in junior high school.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Do they have Ms. Pac Man?

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

My mom told me that she sat next to Perv Foley one time at a function of some sort and he was wearing wingtips with a very casual outfit (golf shirt and khakis.) He claimed that someone broke into his apartment and stole all of his casual shoes.

What do you think REALLY happened to his shoes?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Tanqueray was supposed to be classy gin. It's not Gordon's, ffs.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

(is that the gin that comes in the gallon plastic jug? i can't remember.)

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, G&Ts, I forget about those! SOz. Try to stay out of BIG trouble, okay? The kind that keeps you from getting on airplanes. Also, read a book or something. I hear they have some books at airports.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

jenny, about an hour.
laurel, tanqueray is my gin of choice, though i do keep some bombay saphire at my place because keri likes it.
amanda, exactly on the gin.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.venco.com.pl/~wproj/kc/zdjecia/bruford&mastelotto.jpg

Amanda, I'll bet you the guy on the right stole them.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

I never forget about gin & tonics.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

i've got a book, i've been reading my algren book. pretty good. lots of things that made me pause and say "wow, that's awesome. i wsih i'd worte theat."

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

I had to give them up some years ago, due to over-use. I switched to gin gimlets for a while, then crossed over to vodka Gs, instead, and've never looked back. (XP)

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:14 (nineteen years ago)

I am still interested to know how you are on the internet. Are you magic?

I like gimlets. I also like gin rickies, which is like a cross between a G&T and a gimlet but with club soda instead of tonic water.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

me and gin have a love/hate relationship. i think i have battered spouse syndrome when it comes to tanqueray.

xpost- every terminal in every airport has wifi now. it's worth the $6.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

ok, i just spilled my drink on my keyboard. i think i am now officially "sloppy".

and i'm going to the bottle for free mondays tonight, let's get loose chicago!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

SO IT IS MAGIC AFTERALL.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

Tonight I will be watching a movie in mediation class. A movie of a mediation.

Edge of ma seat, ya'll.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

otto, you're not officially sloppy, you're not having typos like before...

Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

i would pay about $40 for a cigarette right now. and i'm \serious. i'm thinkging about going outside for a smoke and going through security again but i'm pretty drunk and they were dickheads when i was sober so i think i might start t o mouth off to them.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

G&T to Kevin: "I never meant to hurt my baby, you know I love you. C'mere and let me make it up, we've got aaaaall day."

This is also what my shoes said to me this morning, as I considered them in their closet cubicle and weighed their styliness against my fading blisters.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

y'know, i saw some of the typos before and said fuck it, they're going through. i've tidied up all the typos in this post and there were a surprising amount. \


xpost to laurel- he loves me he really does, you just never see him when he's treating me so good.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

hey, cute girl to my left, i'll be back later.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Wrap-up: I have new blisters now, even with the moleskin I stuck on the straps this morning.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 2 October 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

i exited and went through security again for a cigarette. 40 minutes that were TOTALLY WORTH IT.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha

If you are the "J" who posted to my LJ, please let me know. There are too many freaking people out there with J names!

Ooh... only a little over an hour left here today..

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

i think i have little baby fever chicago, anyone want to have a kid with me? i swear i'll make a better daddy than i am a friend. i can come through when there's something on the line.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

Huh.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

seriously. awesome daddy right here.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

I want one, but could you find someone else to be the mom too? Labour seems...unpleasant.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Hi everyone! I am in Homer, AK stealing internet from a coffee shop behind the bike shop my friend runs.

Highlights so far include: Exploring Anchorage a bit, camping out in a Nat'l Forest, snow-capped mountains everywhere, hiking up and touching a glacier, incredibly fresh and cheap seafood, and building an outhouse with my hosts. I posted a handful of pics on my flickr page, but only a few as uploading off this pirated signal is slow as hell.

I'll be back Thursday morning, btw.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/54797445@N00/tags/alaska/

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Having babies is gay.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Dan!

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

More photos of Alaska, please! That glacier shit is WACK.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

incredibly fresh and cheap seafood

Pics pls.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

another fucking delay. i'm never getting back to chicago, chicago!

i just made my THIRD trip to the atm. the bartender is cute. she wasn't when i got here though.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Uh oh, we may not be playing at the Gr33n M1ll again until the weekend before Xmas (i.e. Dec 22-23rd). That would be cool if we were going for the all-Jewish crowd, but I hope we can get a different weekend.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan-- I had a question for you but I've completely forgotten what it was! Damn.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

whole lotta creepy old \dudes at this place. anyone looking for a surgar daddy go to the bar at gate a of the albany airport. CREEPY F'oing DU|DES~!!!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

"How are you online? Is it magic?"

"How are you posting from your car?"

What is wrong with you people that you think wireless isn't everywhere?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin, I'm pretty sure that there are a significant number of those creepy old dudes who would be happy to give you the old "Ikea treatment" in the mens room. YOU HETERONORMATIVE FUCKER. How dare you assume all creepy men are straight?!

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

seriously, this bartender? really not cute yet SO attractive. what's wrong with me?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

I have never used wireless internet. I admit that I still find it amazing.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

jesse, where did i say ANY of these guys were straight?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Oh. Wait, I thought you said "Any girls looking for a sugar daddy."

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 2 October 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

1 - I don't like drinking and flying (before or during). I feel really woozy. Some people say it's the altitude, but I don't know if I buy it. Whatever the reason, I don't like it.

2 - My VERY FAVORITE part of Science of Sleep is that it was in Sprenchglish (English/French/Spanish). I love Spanglish (the language, not the movie) and I really really love Sprenchglish. Seriously? When a man speaks Spanglish to me? I grow a pussy and it gets moist and then turns into a penis that gets hard and then I grow both and bear my own children which are freaks.

3 - I am at a coffee shop on Magazine Street.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 2 October 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, i like being half in the wrapper 35,000 feet above the ground too. that way when we plunge headlong into the ground i'll be only one giggling.

the dude next to me? TOTALLY did not want a sugar daughter.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

4 - Wireless and my laptop are evidence of Christ's undying love for me.

GET YOUR JOINT WORKED ON.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 2 October 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

not that desperate that i'm willing to let the half of the population i'm not attracted to work on my junk.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 2 October 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Is it really junk? Do you really think of your genitalia as rubbhish, garbage or refuse?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 2 October 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like fucking Mark Foley.... http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/BrianRoss/story?id=2509586&page=1

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 2 October 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

Envying Dan - O to be in Homer.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 2 October 2006 22:09 (nineteen years ago)

I have a friend from Homer. He once had a moose calve outside the window. Other than that exciting tidbit, this day kinda sucks.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 2 October 2006 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

What the hail is going on out there? Addison is one big raging rapid.

I strongly prefer flying drunk, as long as I can keep on being drunk during the flight. Sobering up mid-air is what sucks.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

I am using wireless internet. Right now. It's true.

John Hodgeman at Second City was *hilarious*. It was a reading with musical accompaniment and a little performance piece that involved Paul Rudd sacrificing his career on tape. The musician closed with this lovely ode to spring:

http://www.jonathancoulton.com/mp3/First%20of%20May.mp3

(SFW through headphones, but not otherwise.)

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

Have I mentioned my crush on John Hodgman?

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 03:09 (nineteen years ago)

You have not. But I can see that. He's nerdy and adorable.

Oh, I forgot about TEH MALORT. At one point him and the musician took a break, broke out a bottle of malort, each poured themselves a big glass of it, and sat back and sipped. (shudder.) And then when someone in the audience asked a question that began, "So you're pretty bookish..." he took umbrage, sloppily gulped the whole rest of the glass of malort, and said, "How bookish is that, motherfucker?"

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 03:18 (nineteen years ago)

The wiki suggests this is a Chicagoland delicacy, this Malört. And that it is "musty". This sounds like something perhaps I should have tried.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 03:22 (nineteen years ago)

It's disgusting. I love it.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 03:29 (nineteen years ago)

(Jeff bought a round at the Gr33n M1ll once, if I recall)

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 03:29 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha musty. DUDE, it's distilled from weeds found ditches, filtereed through sweatsocks, and bottled without being aged. It;s the nAstiest Liquor of all time. NOT A DRINK, A HAZING RITUAL.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

It's been an interesting night.

I "worked" from coffee shops, then I ate at the Clover Grill (best fucking hamburgers in New Orleans). Then I went to the stupid Pub (Bourbon Pub/Parade) for 1 drink and hated it. So I went to my favorite gay dive (Friendly Bar) where I first argued politics/public policy and then met 3 22-year-old NO native homos. We chatted for a while then

we went to The Corner Pocket (boy strip bar in the Quarter). The boys were all Okies and other rednecks, but some were actually hot.

The dancers and drag queens all strode on the bar. Unfortunately I was the center of attention from John, the tall and beefy stripper who wanted me to see his powdered cock and from the drag-queen who pinched my nose.

As I tried to ignore them I got a lot of stares from my new pals. Then Miss Southern Decadence '04 and '06 ('05 was cancelled) gave me a show. Then a hot little redneck with a Louisiana tattoo walked by and pointed out how I had my leg up, and wondered if I wanted the other one up too.

Maybe it's because I was neither old and gross nor young and hot and therefore intimidating, but somehow I BY FAR attracted the most attention from these folks.

While there, the 3 of us agreed that Eminem is the hottest guy a fag could lust after.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 03:53 (nineteen years ago)

Powdered cock?

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 03:59 (nineteen years ago)

It might have been the black light showing dry skin? I don't know.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 04:16 (nineteen years ago)

Have I mentioned my crush on John Hodgman?

Only knowing him from McSweeney's and This American Life, I was surprised to find out the other day he's the PC guy in the PC vs. Mac ads. (Which I only know from seeing them in the Apple Store.) He is apparently on the Daily Show, too?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 05:07 (nineteen years ago)

I just read that Madigrals, formerly of Andersonville, reopened in New Orleans.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 05:08 (nineteen years ago)

Huh. I didn't realize that it had closed.

And yeah, how 'bout that rain? All of the viaducts at Ravenswood are effectively ponds. I tried parking on Ainslie an hour ago, but the water was above the curb, so I decided Ashland was a safer bet.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 05:10 (nineteen years ago)

A straight friend of mine who's in law school down there took a depressed gay friend of his there - apparently a dancer came up to him from behind and hit him in the face with his wiener.

I walked from Diversey/Sheffield to Belmont/Sheffield and it took forever because the corners were all flooded way way deep.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 05:12 (nineteen years ago)

(took him to Madigrals, not to a viaduct at Ravenswood)

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 05:13 (nineteen years ago)

I just read that Madigrals, formerly of Andersonville, reopened in New Orleans.

Wow. I heard or read about Madrigals weiner bar opening here and thought "wow, I wonder if it's affiliated with the one in Chicago."

Also kind of odd, there is a club called the Skybar that just opened and it is clearly connected with the Skybar in Greensboro NC (precisely the same logo).

Miss S. Decadence twice over was really one of the worst drag acts I've ever seen in too many ways to count (and I am nothing close to an afficianado). Dresses that didn't fit, unontrolled ab-flab, loose threads, 3 changes of dress all with the same old scuffed size 12 high heels from Rack Room, a dress that was supposed to look like a V-back, but was just a regular full-backed dress with the zipper undone. None of this with irony. Sad, sad, sad. And she was coked-up and cross-eyed.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 06:05 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I have a hypothesis: If you want to buy drugs at a gay bar in this town, go to the video poker machines that are nearest the bathroom. On more than a couple of occasions I have observed deals start there, and on one I got a bump from the guy there.

Tonight at the Pub (Pube?) I saw a skinny tweaky fella making friends this way.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 06:11 (nineteen years ago)

Buenas Dias.

Nick left the house all bunded up with a huge sweater on this morning. I was like, um, it's going to be in the 80s today... but he said, no, 61. Apparently he was looking at the current temp, not the high.

Today will be loooong because we have a show tonight (last of 4 bands!).

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

(Or is it Buenos Dias?)

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

Buenos.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

Bueno.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

Why isn't anyone entertaining me today? WHY WHY WHY?

I have finished my coffee. Now what?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

What can I say in this baby shower card for a coworker? All I can think of is CONGRATULATIONS!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

that sounds good. but i never know what to say on such things.

Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

I much prefer cards from everyone in the office. Then you can just write a word or two and draw something silly beside your name. That's what I do anyway. But this time I have a card just from me. NOOOO!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

if it's a friend you can be all "nice work on getting knocked up!" but if it's someone else, there's really not much to say. and then you have a big blank space.

Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

Here is a story of my awesome weather luck yesterday:

1. It rained like a mofo but when I had to leave work and work four blocks to class, it was miraculously not raining. As I was walking into the building, the rain started again.

2. I left class at 8:30. It started to rain right as I was walking down the steps to the Red Line.

3. It was HAILING as I rode the train home. When I walked out of the station, water was pouring in sheets off the little protective overhang so that walking out from under it would result in being doused with water. Addison was a raging rapid. So I waited under the overhang until an Addison bus came and jumped on it. But the time I got to my stop the rain had almost ceased so I was able to walk the last block and remain relatively dry.

4. Once I got home, it started raining like crazy again. I never got more than slightly damp!

I got to the landing outside my apartment and could hear the cats crying through the door. I opened it and they jumped on me because they are afraid of thunder and were hungry.

http://lsc.mit.edu/schedule/archives/design1996/old_terms/Sp96/Graphics/AceVentura2.GIF

xpost - how about something like "Congratulations! May the little one be as smart and lovely as her mother" or something like that.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, yeah, I forgot - the weather miracle was extra special because I did not have a rain coat, umbrella, or appropriate footwear.

Also, I saw a woman wearing UGG BOOTS this morning and thought bad thoughts about her but maybe she misread the high for today as well.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

"May the little one be as productive and impactful as her mother"

Or: "I peed in the coffee."

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

"May you manage to raise a child who is not as huge of a bitch as you are."

Or: "Here's hoping by some miracle your little spawn isn't as huge a bitch as her mother, but seriously, what are the odds of that?"

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

I woke up two hours late today. SO LATE.
It's torture sitting on the train when you know that you're super duper mega late and your students are sitting there waiting for you and will probably leave before you get there and the only thing left to is listen to Dinosaur Jr and feel stupid.

GOOD MORNING.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and then the ultimate indignity, then I post about it on the internet.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Immortal shame is mine.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Being caught in the rainstorm last night was kind of fun, though.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

Did your students leave before you got there?

I hate that late on the train feeling. So impotent! I have dreams like that a lot, too, where I'm late as hell and everything in the world is frustrating my progress. I am usually in, like Delaware and need to be at work in Chicago three hours ago, too.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

i have some friends that had a baby. i'm barely in touch with them anyway, but i've been totally stumped by what to say after they had the kid, then felt rude for not congratulating them sooner, and then months went by. i am bad with such things.

that rainstorm was crazy last night. but pretty to watch from inside.

Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

There were about four or five left and they heard me running up the stairs (tap tap tap tap) and knew that I was coming so they stayed to hear my sorry excuse. For some reason though, the storm and the lateness and the impotence on the train brought me this weird feeling of clarity.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

How about, "I hope the sex was good, be cause that's the last time you won't be too tired to have it."

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to Amander: And what did you learn?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

I was like, um, it's going to be in the 80s today... but he said, no, 61

I feel good about the odds of the Friday show being held outside (knock on wood).

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

i've been totally stumped by what to say after they had the kid, then felt rude for not congratulating them sooner, and then months went by.

Yes! One of my very good friends had a kid recently, and I didn't call for like three weeks. I didn't know what to say, and I also felt oddly intimidated about it, like I would be intruding.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know that I learned anything necessarily, but I was very aware and alert and felt a peculiar magical spark in the air. I dunno, I can't really explain it. Does that happen to you guys? Maybe it was the rain.

[/fruitiness]

PS -- I always say "Happy baby!"

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

No. Being extra super late and soggy on top of it makes me feel the thing that is the opposite of clarity.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

That's why it was weird. Does anyone know the Pearls Before Swine song "I Saw the World"? That's what it felt like. Maybe I'm just losing it. I dunno.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

Happy Baby is nice.

I hate the being late and helpless feeling. That's how it felt every time I had to be anywhere when I lived with my mom and she was driving. I would lie about start times by about an hour and still be late. Also, she was on average about TWO HOURS late picking me up from school. :-(

I'm awful at congratulating friends with babies/ keeping up with their kids. Maybe it would be different if I lived in the same city with one of them, like if one you lovely people had a baby.

Do you ever have one of those mornings where you decide not to take a shower because - hey! - you took a shower or bath right before bed, so how dirty could you be? And then you feel like crap when you get to work? Just wonderin'.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

No, I usually shower at night. But I took one this morning and now I feel too raw and new, skin a little dry and sensitive. This is why people have ROO-TEENS.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know that I've ever gotten that feeling from being late, per se, but I do know the feeling of which you speak. It always makes me feel like something is going to happen. Or that something is happening.

I am a somewhat casual showerer so I probably wouldn't really notice if I didn't take one in the morning. Although I normally only do that on weekends.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

No, I shower in the morning. But I also shower after going to the gym, which has been every night.

I hate the being late and helpless feeling. That's how it felt every time I had to be anywhere when I lived with my mom and she was driving. I would lie about start times by about an hour and still be late. Also, she was on average about TWO HOURS late picking me up from school. :-(

Me too. I spent many, many afternoons hanging around outside an empty school, listening to Metallica tapes on my walkman. And now I am compulsively on time for everything.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I felt raw and new. I feel old and musky. I'm wearing basically the same thing I wore yesterday, only with a blazer thrown over it. Good thing I haven't been sweating much.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

Did you watch the Metallica movie, Jordan? Nick did. I didn't, but I watched a bunch of deleted scenes with him last night.

Not that I felt stinky, but I put on too much perfume this morning. I have this sample of Vera Wang Princess I wanted to try, but I doused too much on. It's a lot stronger than what I normally wear (Maybe Baby). I felt sorry for the people crammed up next to me on the bus.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

Somebody powerwash Kenan.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

Note: not powderwash. He's not a chinchilla.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

I shower every morning, otherwise I feel gross. Even if I've showered the night before (which is v. rare), my hair is still a bird's nest when I wake up, usually.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

I absolutely have to shower every morning. At the very least wash my hair, otherwise I get crazy greasy.

I also like to shower before the gym and then rinse off after.

At the Race for the Cure they were having a give-away of a VERA WANG MATTRESS.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

My knowledge of designer labels and expensive liquors has been formed entirely by rap songs.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

I was just IMing this with Jenny, but I will also share it here.

The gay guys I was hanging out with last night were all trying to act like they were too good to pay attention to or tip the strippers, but finally one guy said he would do but he actually said, "I'm going to degrade him a little first," and consulted with the others as to how to do this. He decided that making him work hard for his $4 was the way to do it.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

As for me, I didn't really want to talk to the strippers because really, what do we have to talk about?

The one dude folded the money into a monetary bouquet and asked "Hey, what would you do to get this $4? Come get your bouquet," etc. The dancer took the money and handed it to me.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

but finally one guy said he would do

What, are you British now?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

I meant "do it"

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

Why would Vera Wang do mattresses?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

I saw an add for those. I don't know. I guess she can sell anything she wants and mark it up to high heaven.

So... I wrote Happy Baby! on the card kind of big and then tried to draw a happy baby face under it. The baby head looks like an evil clown. It might scare the baby out of her.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

I tried to fix it, but now it looks like an evil ASIAN clown with a MUSTACHE.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

I like this coworker fine. It's the coworker who is having her shower on Thursday that I have issues with.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)


This is doing nothing to help your reputation around the office.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Dammit. What was I going to ask Jordan yesterday!? This is driving me nuts.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Me too!

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

women be getting pregnant.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. At Jon's bday drinks last night Ian told me I'd better hurry up if I wanted to have children. OKAY SHUT YR 22-YR OLD MOUF.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

hey everybody! leaf gave me my engagement ring last night!!

http://static.flickr.com/105/259357264_1369d18234_m.jpg

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh! Sapphire! Pretty!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

sapphire + blue topaz and he got it from this enviro-friendly jeweler that does recycled stuff. so the gold & topaz are both recycled & the sapphire is manufactured (so no mining)!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.howardhallis.com/news/2005/november29/bling.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

oh my god.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

that's a billboard in the state that has the "kum & go"?

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, REALLY.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

haha Surely those two messages cancel each other out.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm kind of in love with the before-and-after aspect of that billboard.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc, I want you to do some research for me. My grandfather was named Furman. I have never encountered another human being named Furman, but no one in my family has ever intimated that his name is at all out of the ordinary. Is it? Where are all of the Furmen?

Thank you,
AK

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:18 (nineteen years ago)

Furman dipped in and out of the Top 1000 from 1880 (when statistics were first made available) through 1946 but hasn't appeared since, and it was never any higher than #500 (in 1900).

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.upstatebeat.com/images/books/BOOKS_furman.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

oooh! will you research the name "Early" for me? It's the name i want for my firstborn, should i ever come to bear children.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

Thankee! And so quick, too! People who want their babies to sound old-fashioned might want to acquaint themselves with the name FURMAN.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Er, their babies' NAMES, not just their babies.

"My, your baby sounds old-fashioned."

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

"Why thank you, we birthed her with a vintage 1928 wail!"

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

I must admit, I immediately thought of "Mark Fuhrman" as well.

Kelsey, I'd be glad to. Early was in the Top 1000 pretty much consistently from 1880-1949. It was never any higher than in the 1890s -- it peaked at #323 in 1987 -- but then as the 20th century dawned, it began a slow descent to obscurity.

Baseball fans, however, have a key association with the name via Hall of Fame pitcher Early Wynn:

http://www.dickperez.com/images/psd_hh_EarlyWynn_lg.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

it peaked at #323 in 1987

Sorry, this should read 1897.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

I like Early. Esp. with McG_ _ _ _ _.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I like the name, too.

Drunks, however, have a key association with the name via Early Times whiskey:

http://www.earlytimes.com/images/etsub_right_13.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

Also there was that movie with, I wanna say, Juliette Lewis? She says EARRRRRRRRLYYYYYYYY like 1,000X in that movie. I can't remember what movie it was though.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

lol...there are some workmen here, and their truck reads "Your #1 source for solid and quartz surfacing" on all sides. Except on the side where someone scratched off/altered the letters to read "Your #1 source for fart r acing"

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.digitallyobsessed.com/cover_art/kalifornia.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

I expect The Hon. Dick Swett to make an appearance as a character witness.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

Early Times was a dude's name?

I always wanted Celestial Seasonings to buy out Early Times and put a teddy bear on the label, hung over, reaching out for a morning hair-of-the-dog just so he can sturdy himself through another day. Best part of waking up, frankly.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

Oops. THat was supposed to go on the Foley thread.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

My larf died a sad death.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

I don't really remember Kalifornia all that well. I think Kr has seen it more recently than I have, since her longstanding celeb crush is D. Duchovny.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

glad you two like 'early' . . . i love the name. leaf suggested we give lil' early a more 'normal' middle name so if early wants to not go by early, early won't have to. we have not decided whether we want children, but we have had the "what to name them?" conversation. early, if a girl, would be early abigail (after his aunt who passed away) & kid #2 would be masd3n kuhn, which is a combo of our mothers' maiden names. i love the sound of masd3n kuhn mcg____.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

Masden = the new Madison?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

If I were to have a son, I think I would name him Mephisto.

And this is why I am not allowed to have children.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

yikes! i hope not!
xpost to john

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Michael Masden

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Madchen?

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

Mad Libs?

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

You could name your girl Elizabeth, and call her Libby, and then when she develops severe mental disorders you could call her Mad Libs. That would be fun.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, I just remembered. I've been meaning to ask you "What's up?"

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

I love the name Madsen.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

When we lived in Ohio, my parents were friends with a couple named the Marsd3ns. They were named M1ke and Mad0nna and they gave their kids similarly alliterative M-names. As it happens, every other member of my immediate family (mom, dad, brother) has an M-name as well, so the Marsd3ns decided, when I was 4, that I should be given an M-name as a nickname. The name decided upon? Marmaduke.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

Masden > Madsen

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

John, did the popularity of Evil Kenevel cause any rise in the popularity of the name "Evil"?

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 16:57 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, no -- but when Kr was looking at apartments, there was a place in Rogers Park that she liked, except I cautioned her against it because there was a tenant named "Evil" and another named "Kill."

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

Not much, Jesse. Not much.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://marmadukeexplained.blogspot.com/

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

I don't believe you, John. How do you get a name like that? "Richard Evil." "Nancy Kill."

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I had an algebra teacher in high school named B3rni3 Kill.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

He had psoriasis on his elbows, which wasn't a big deal until the day he put me in a headlock for climbing up on the windowsill of his classroom.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

it peaked at #323 in 1987
Sorry, this should read 1897.

This makes me laugh.

Maybe in 1897 there was something like a sheet-music hit called "Tie Up The Mules In The Mornin', Early."

And for a second I thought your teacher was Bikini Kill.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. At Jon's bday drinks last night Ian told me I'd better hurry up if I wanted to have children. OKAY SHUT YR 22-YR OLD MOUF.

you've got time, my sister is 36 and she just had her first one. and he's awesome. it wasn't until sunday that he wasn't afraid of me buy when i was holding him and he recognized me and smiled and giggled and grabbed at my hair i decided i should definitely be a daddy some day.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

er, but when i was holding him...

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse's blog:

I was sitting in traffic on Canal Street beside a NOPD car with 2 people in the back, girl with cornrows and a bald guy. They were obviously handcuffed, but that didn't stop the girl from riding the guy's lap and making out with him like it was prom night.

Before that I got my hair cut at Hair Quarters in the FQ. It took an 1 hour and 15 minutes. For a clipper cut. The old Jeff Parish gay guy who did my cut had a bottle of Viagra sitting on his station.

I am drinking a Maple latte from Starbux.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

They were obviously handcuffed, but that didn't stop the girl from riding the guy's lap and making out with him like it was prom night.

That is so awesome.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

Dear Virtual Chicago:

Kevin and I are both going to go take dumps now and think about each other while we do it.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

when you suggested that and i responded with "that is creepy beyond belief", what part, exactly, made you think that i was going to be thinking of you why taking a grumpy?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

when you suggested that and i responded with "that is creepy beyond belief", what part, exactly, made you think that i was going to be thinking of you while taking a grumpy?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know.

But could you help it?

I have to tell you....I couldn't help but think of you. Just a little.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

i just got a flash of that divinyls song, "when i think about you i shit myself".

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

was that the b-side?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

That may be a subject that has never been addresed before in a song.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

there was mouse poop in the middle of the bathroom stall. even the rodents poop in the bathroom.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

As I was walking through a wood,
I shit myself. I knew I would.
I cried for help but no help came,
and so I shit myself again.


Today I was asked to dispose of 2 mice in traps. They had been there long enough to really stink up the kitchen. Gagged.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

I believe that my days of talking about shit on the internet are behind me. Let's talk about orgasms.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Shitgasms?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

From the OSHA Nuke training class next door:

"No! Radiation is energy that is being emitted from an ustable atom.

"Now. Contamination...."

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Obviously, Early is the perfect name for a premie.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

Evel. His name was Evel Knievel.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

A premie? What a sad label!

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Ah yes. I am not up on my Evel lore. I was always more of a fan of Evel's lesser-known rival, Satan Peyton.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

There was a very very fun Evel Kenivel (I typed Kevinel by mistake) pinball machine at the mall when I was a kid - it's the machine that got me hooked.

Truly surreal.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

Is it so wrong that I want almost everything in the Delia's catalog? (And would any of it fit me?)

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

If he didn't want to have a creepy elected official talking about his JO habits, maybe he shouldn't have JO-ed. The problem is all the JO-ing. No one should JO until marriage.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

more accidental Foley xposting?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Really now, does this happen in normal places (not New Orleans).

http://static.flickr.com/119/260009643_e0a5a218b3.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/111/260009454_61e6a08250.jpg

Inside of my current home.

This vine grew from the fence outdoors, through the flooring, between the stone tiles and the baseboards, up 6 feet and began snaking around the coils on the back of the fridge.

Remember, this is a newly rehabbed house.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Not very well rehabbed, if I had to guess...?

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

i don't know if anybody here knows this but flickr is blocked at my work.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

go look at it at home.

it's a long vine that made it's way into the house. in a way that is unnatural.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

more accidental Foley xposting?

no. that was a response to EZ's link "Truly surreal."

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

That is really bizarre.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin lives a life of vocal desperation. Not like Thoreau said most men do.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

i have a box full of records in my shoulder bag chicago, no one here at work knows this and i feel like i have something over all of them. i can't wait to get home and do some rekkid listnin'!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

no one here at work knows this

This is great.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

thas a scary vine
http://shillpages.com/dw/story/d4/st--4l01.jpg
keep your eyes out for somethin' like this

literalisp (literalisp), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

http://wahoobudd.blogs.com/trial_and_error/pictures/siren.jpg ALERT: FACEBOOK NOW OPEN TO NON-STUDENTS http://wahoobudd.blogs.com/trial_and_error/pictures/siren.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

well how about that. NO FUCKING WAY.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

I signed up for a myspace account two days ago. Then I found out that you can't upload any music you want to for your page, only myspace music. So I spent three minutes looking for the song I wanted, didn't find it, and once again abandoned the idea of bothering with a myspace page.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

you can upload music you want, you just need to embed a player in your profile. if you want to use the player provided by myspace then you play by there rules.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

DON'T EMBED MUSIC ON YOUR MYSPACE PAGE, IT'S ANNOYING, K??

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

their rules. lots of mistakes for me today.

as long as you make the controls visible i don't see where embedding music is any worse than using the myspace standalone player.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

How do I shot facebook?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

why would i shot facebook?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

Embedded music is fine as long as it doesn't start automatically. That's annoying for a couple of reasons.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

Tentative Chicago roadtrip for me next year: July 31-Aug. 5.

http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/schedule/tentative.jsp?c_id=chc&year=2007#aug

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

I just assume that every myspace site I go to will have embedded music (and usually I'm hoping for it, 'cause I'm checking out bands).

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

I have come to expect it upon opening the page, but I don't like it. The most annoying thing is that it stops when you go to another part of the page, then restarts each time you happen upon the main page.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

John, I tried to register based on high school, and it said current high school students only.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

morbs, just so you know, those mets tickets will be the second series to sell out (after the chisox series, obviously). so try to get them early if that's what you're looking for.

i'll probably wind up wasting another entire work day for tickets again this year.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

Even if you're going looking for bands, you don't really want it to start up automatically.

I say that, having completely forgotten how my band's myspace page works w/r/t music starting up automatically.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

John, I tried to register based on high school, and it said current high school students only.

At the registration page, don't register as "high school" or "college." Say you are "at a company."

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

thx Otto ... I'll go to the Phils series if I have to. Also might see the Cubs in St. Louis the week before.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

i had targeted the mets series as the games i wanted to see this year and they were gone just after the sox tickets sold out. even before the st. louis games. it might have had something to do with the mets games being the best weekend games of the summer at wrigley.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

Today I was checking out this band to see if I wanted to play a show with them. When doing that, I always check myspace first. Anyway, I forgot that I had another window open with the FF myspace page. Their song and one of our songs started playing at the same time, but it took me a little while to figure that out. I was just thinking it was a totally awesome f'ed up song.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

You can change your myspace profile so it does not automatically start playing music when you open someone's profile. So quit whining.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I do want music to start playing when I go to a band's Myspace page.

I guess I just associate embedded music with Myspace pages that have a million flashing bells and whistles and Youtube videos and unreadable text.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

I just thought I'd add this to the old "third floor pool" discussion.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i191/fluxion23/pool_capture.png

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Where is that?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

The setting turns off music in regular profiles but not on band pages.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe if MySpace was designed by someone who had half a clue how a website would work I would have known that you could set the music to not automatically start up.

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to Sarah:
I have done similar. I discovered today that Winamp will open multiple copies of itself, so as I impatiently repeatedly clicked a video link, I opened 4 or 5 windows palying the same file, a couple seconds delayed.

Bill O'Reilly interviewing Marylin Manson-Manson-Manson-Manson-Manson....

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

John - That's off LSD, just south of Oak Street Beach.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know if YOU can make it so YOUR music doesn't start up automatically, but you can make it so when you are logged into myspace and visit other individual people's profiles, their music doesn't start automatically. This does not work for bands as far as I know.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe if MySpace was designed by someone who had half a clue how a website would work I would have known that you could set the music to not automatically start up.

Yeah. The Facebook design is so clean, I love it.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, myspace pages are so ugly, so nerve jangling, so *exhausting* to look at that I think they must have been the result of some special effort. It's beyond bad web design. It's not even in the same universe as web design.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

what is facebook?

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

It started out as myspace for Ivy Leaguers, and is apparently growing to include just anybody.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe if MySpace was designed by someone who had half a clue how a website would work I would have known that you could set the music to not automatically start up.

do you ever look at the preferences? you can set it so that it doesn't start automatically.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) It's like Myspace, except a) it's not as public (sort of like Friendster when it first started), b) it's better designed, and c) until recently it was only available to students with a valid .edu address.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

and i see that jenny already told you that.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

only b) makes it attractive to me. i actually view the other two as detriments.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

I tried it, but couldn't find anyone and lost interest very quickly.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/3299

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just excited because it's the only networking site that Kr is on. So now I get to look at stupid photos of her from college.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to send her that one of you where you look like a sad lil' bug!!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

I thought it was all college kids.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Note: I'm not going to join facebook because I'm not an early adopter and I don't have time for another social networking site. Also? It's becoming clear to me that having a MySpace profile is, more than anything else, another way for people to send me emails to which I never respond.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

I just invited 11 of you to Facebook. We'll get a network going yet. Chicago Facebookers. (And Laurel.)

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to send her that one of you where you look like a sad lil' bug!!

Because I'm wearing goggles?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

(Send me any photos of me that you have!)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks, K, but I don't think I can keep up with anything else! There's already Fiendster and myspace and I don't even check Fster. And my email correspondence, all without a home computer. I'm overwhelmed!

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.facebook.com/images/onlinenow.png

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

I am not signing up for fucking Facebook.

n/a (Nick A.), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Someday everyone will realize that myspace is an unusable nightmare and on that day, I will gloat.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Man, I'm so ahead of the curve. I've had a facebook page for like a year. Thank you, mtu.edu.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

This doesn't mean I am going to start using it, however.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

And my email correspondence

*ahem*

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

I poked John. I wonder what the end result of that action will be?

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

Alert! I'm not joining Facebook! NO.

Or I may join to see this incredible design, but I will NOT participate.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

I have no delusions that myspace is anything other than an unusable nightmare.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

I poked John. I wonder what the end result of that action will be?

anal/genital warts?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

Myspace is plenty more than I ever could need.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

I may join to see this incredible design

Oh, it's not incredible, it's just simple and logical. That's all I ask.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

The design isn't all that great.

There is a seaplane taking off outside.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

AMANDA, are you here this weekend??? Email me at my gmail address, I have news for Sunday.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

Myspace is ugly, yes. Unusable? No. Except when I tried to use it to shovel gravel in the yard. It was useless for that.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

snortOL

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Have you guys heard this song?

It's on the radio every day here.


Buckcherry Crazy Bitch Lyrics
Alright!

Break me down
You got a lovely face
We're going to your place
And now you got to freak me out
Scream so loud
Getting fucking laid
You want me to stay
But I got to make my way

Chorus:
Hey!
You're a crazy bitch
But you fuck so good I'm on top of it
When I dream
I'm doing you all night
Scratches all down my back to keep me right on

Take it off
The paper is your game
You jump in bed with fame
Another one night payed in full
You're so fine
It won't be a loss
Cashing in the rocks
Just to get you face to face

(Chorus x2)

Get the video
Fuck you so good
Get the video
Fuck you so good

Crazy bitch
Crazy bitch
Crazy... bitch

(Chorus)

Baby girl
You want it all
To be a star you'll have to go down
Take it off
No need to talk
You're crazy but I like the way you fuck me!

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

i don't listen to the radio. sorry.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

I do, but I've never heard that song.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

it's kind of awful.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

I put up 30 photos of my morning commute on Flickr yesterday.

Kevin, you should totally check it out.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, I saw that and I LOVED it. I think all of you should do that. 30 pictures is a nice number. Let's do it.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Nah. 25 of mine would be of the inside of a subway car. I mean, there was a blog project that photographed the inhabitants of an NYC-subway car throughout its whole route to show how the use changed, but this is not that.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

Do 5 from home to subway, 5 into, on and out of subway, and 5 on the way to your work. That's enough.

Unfortunately I cannot do this since I think my battery charger is in Chicago.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

Mine is 11 photos on the way from my apartment to the el, 13 either on the el or within the station, 4 on the way from the el to my office, and 2 inside my office.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

In retrospect, I should've started with a photo from inside my apartment.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

It's not too late.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

I wish I hadn't joined Facebook. I get enough stuff in my inbox from myspace (which I don't use aside from band stuff).

On the other hand...

http://static.flickr.com/113/260131758_9afc486c31.jpg?v=0

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago)

It's kinda hard to tell, but I think THIS might be a reasonable couch?????

http://madison.craigslist.org/fur/215347004.html

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

Hey! That looks pretty nice. Be careful with white, but apart from that...

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

Good point, although it will match the cat hair.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 00:07 (nineteen years ago)

That's the best one you've posted yet. As long as it's clean, I'd get it. And a slipcover.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny OTM. Yeah, if it matches the cat hair, I see no reason not to get that. I'd be happy to have that couch.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 00:14 (nineteen years ago)

I called and talked to an old Indian woman for awhile. I think she said to call back in an hour?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

Keep us posted. We're here for you. Friends don't let friends buy ugly sofas.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 01:15 (nineteen years ago)

Or setees, divans, chesterfields, etc.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

OK. So. Linux. I now have a wonderfully functional dual boot system going on my PC, with 60 gigs partitioned for windows, and 20 gigs partitioned for Ubuntu. I did this once before, but not very well. Or else the hard drive was so dirty that it was fucking up everything. I have wiped my hard drive, re-installed XP, and re-installed linux. Seems to be working like a dream.

Next... to get Google Talk working on Gaim, and to learn Gimp (which can't be that hard). And to find out if OpenOffice docs open in Word.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 01:46 (nineteen years ago)

If I can get uTorrent to run in WINE, I may not be booting from XP much again.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 01:48 (nineteen years ago)

i used linux about 7 years ago, it was the "hurricane" release from red hat (5.1 maybe?) it was fun but i didn't have enough time to play with it to really get the hang of it. it was a beast for stress-testing RAID arrays though.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 03:11 (nineteen years ago)

fuck chicago, i think i lost my jump drive and i've been working all night on some stuff for work for tomorrow. gmail doesn't want to send it and i don't know how the hell i'm going to get this from here to there. fuck fuck fuck.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 03:17 (nineteen years ago)

whee four hours of sleep

n/a (Nick A.), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like listening to Ratatat, but don't have any with me, so I'm listening to Grizzly Bear. Good mornin', Nick.

I spoiled myself with a soy vanilla latte this morning and a maple oat nut scone.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

i have 16 ounces of bus station coffee sitting in front of me. it's so f'ing bad.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

Bus station coffee?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, it's gross.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:37 (nineteen years ago)

forest part transit station coffee to be precise.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

or imprecise since it's forest park.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

What kind of bus station?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

You wanna go think about each other?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:40 (nineteen years ago)

no, i just started this coffee and i'm out of cigarettes so it'll be awhile before things get moving.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:41 (nineteen years ago)

i won't be around for thirsty thursday but if anyone wants to grab post-work, pre-lost drinks tonight let me know.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

How did you shot lost jumpdrive?? Or does that just mean it had a leetle meltdown?

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

Couch guy just called me back (and I mean just now). I am definitely getting that furniture, I just need to find someone with a truck!

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:44 (nineteen years ago)

And I think I know just the Guy.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

It'd be funny if his name was Guy.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

How did you shot lost jumpdrive?? Or does that just mean it had a leetle meltdown?

it was in laptop bag at the albany airport, it wasn't in the bag when i went to dig it out last night. i wound up making a late dash to the 24 hour walgreens for cd-r's. anyone want a mixed cd? i've got plenty of them now.

what i don't have is my 1gb jump drive. :(

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

It'd be funny if his name was Guy.

His name IS Guy.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

One last night of fun before I pack up and head off to Michigan tomorrow.

I went to my favorite bar (Friendly) where I met a bunch of people between the ages of 50 and 91. This town is awesome because of the abundance of characters and stories.

I met a lesbian couple in their 90's, one in a walker, the other in 4 inch high heels. They drive a metallic grey Cadillac roadster with a convertible hardtop. Apparently the one not in the walker can lift her shin to her forehead while standing in her heels, though I didn't see this.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

Then I went to another place that I found out is called "the financial district" because everything you see there is for sale. And nothing I saw there I would want, even for free. A gross guy named Tyrone hit on me and showed me his 1992 Cutlass Sierra that he had parked illegally, right out side of the bar so he could keep an eye on it. He had just waxed it, as was evident because he had not removed any of the wax.

My clothes still smell like his nasty cologne.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, yes, I'd like a mix CD. Do you think the drive was stolen out of yr bag?

Jesse, I kind of love your life. Don't you?

I have an Uncle Guy. I also have an Aunt Joy. At Christmas, when Joy got to sing her own name in carols & hymns, my uncle would go to church and belt out "GUY TO THE WORLD..." just to even things up.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

I like that I find interesting things, people and events. I should be a writer. It's kind of like how I pick up garbage from the street, a habit that makes Jenny freak out every time we're walking down the street.


xpost
I've thought about what I would do if I had to buy a car (which might happen, but I hope not). What I decided was that I would probably buy an old pickup, and then I'd be everyone's friend.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

When I read "Guy" I hear "guee" as opposed to the pronunciation you would use when saying "some guy."

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oops. I meant to ask, is that how these guys--these Guys--pronounce their names?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not ready to say it was stolen out of my bag, all i can say for certain is that i had it when i left my sister's house and i didn't have it when i got home. i could have lost it at the airport bar as that was the only place i had my computer out. but i didn't take the jump drive out. it could've come out during either of my trips through security. i really miss being able to smoke in airports. i know you can smoke in charlotte and you can smoke in designated lounges in memphis and there's a "smoker's lounge" (read: glass closet filled with the stale fog of a thousand spent cigarettes) in manchester, nh but where else can you smoke? the next time any of you travel by air please note which airports allow smoking. i'm almost willing to schedule a layover if it meant i could grab a quick one.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

The Guy I know pronounces it like "hey, this guy".

Laurel, that's AMAZING, because I work with this Guy and there used to be a woman named Joy on our team as well.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

I've known three Guys. Two were American and hence pronounced their names "Gye" and the other is French-Canadian and thus goes for "Guee."

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

i knew a canuck "gee" and i know a east-london "gye" and both annoy the hell out of me after 2 days.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

Great. My work email no longer filters for spam because the server is a wuss and couldn't handle the task.

I've known two Guys, both all-American and they pronounced their names Guee.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

It should be considered a security risk to not have a smoking area in an airport, and not just a total douchebag move.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

I hate my fracking coworker. I hate her hate her hate her.

I get a call from a subcontractor this morning.
Said coworker set up an appointment for him to replace some carpet.
He asks who will let him in?

I call M (said coworker) and ask what's up.

She says it's the homeowners' deal.

I call homeowner and remind them to meet the installer.

HO says it's not her deal. She didn't even know about the appt.

I call M back. She says the info @ the appt was emailed to HO. The HO can call and reschedule the appt herself.

I call HO back and she says she never got an email. Also, she doesn't even know what work is supposed to be done.

I call M back. She says they are installing carpet in her great room. If HO doesn't want to deal with the carpet company, she doesn't have to, but we're having nothing else to do with her property (yelling at this point).

I call HO back and try to give her the # for the carpet people. She says, but I don't know what's supposed to be done. I say, carpet in Great Room. She says, but what kind of padding? Also, they did this wrong before. Your company is supposed to take care of this. I say, I can give you the carpet folk's number for you to call them and reschedule. She says again, but when I last spoke to them, they said you guys were handling it.

Then I call carpet installer waiting at job site and tell him we'll have to reschedule.

Then his boss calls me, furious that the appointment was cancelled. Who will be calling to reschedule? He asks me. Why isn't anyone there now? He asks me. I don't know. I don't know. I'm sorry.

So now nothing is resolved. M is pissed off at me for not dealing with her problem sufficiently (and she doesn't even know the homeowner is still waiting to hear better news from me). HO is pissed off at us. Installers are pissed off at me in particular because I was kind of short with them on the phone when they kept snapping at me for cancelling the appointment and wasting their time and not knowing anything.

Lovies, me.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

Were the "Guee" Guys gay guys?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

In better news, it turns out I did have Ratatat's album on my ipod. For some reason, I have Ratatat listed twice under artists, one with only one song and one with the whole thing.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

There's a smoking lounge adjacent to a bar in the last airport I was stuck in -- Minneapolis? Wherever that airport is, it also has the best used bookstore EVER, with lots of rare things and a big children's section that I wanted to buy out...basically offering an enjoyably varied, odd selection at lower prices than most of those shitty newsstand faux-bookstores that airports support.

And all the garbage cans in the whole complex were accompanied by two recycling cannisters, one for papers and one for metal/glass. SMRT!!

My uncle goes with Guy rhyming with "eye". American styleeee!

SARAH, STAND FIRM! REFUSE TO BE GUILTED!

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

There's a smoking lounge adjacent to a bar in the last airport I was stuck in -- Minneapolis? Wherever that airport is, it also has the best used bookstore EVER, with lots of rare things and a big children's section that I wanted to buy out...basically offering an enjoyably varied, odd selection at lower prices than most of those shitty newsstand faux-bookstores that airports support.

Sounds like Milwaukee! I love the Renaissance Books at the airport.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

it also has the best used bookstore EVER, with lots of rare things and a big children's section that I wanted to buy out...

i was in a used bookstore this weekend and was told i could take whatever i wanted. then i forgot to take anything with me. ktr, not siezing the opportunity since 1973.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

Weird. A used bookstore in an airport!

Sarah, why did you not put the HO in contact with M and cut out the middlewoman?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Milwaukee!! It was wonderful. I could have laid over longer.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Used books are a security risk.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

i doubt i will ever be in the milwaukee airport. milwaukee train station maybe.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

If there was one thing I could isolate as what I hated MOST about my old job, it was being expected to be middlewoman. I WILL NOT BE YOUR BLAMEHORSE (repeat 100x or until done).

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

EVERYBODY GETS LAID over.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, I wish! If there was smoking, used books, AND make-out, I'd never leave the terminal.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

M would have killed me. She's VERY pregnant and quitting soon (YAY!), but she seems to have decided about a year ago that she just wouldn't talk to homeowners any more. Sometimes, it's part of my job to placate homeowners, which I don't mind as long as it means we're actually going to help them resolve whatever issue it is. However, I refuse to deliver ultamatums to these people who were probably not at all at fault just because M can't be bothered to cut them off herself. The homeowners have retailiated. I often get huffy calls from them asking who she reports to, and then I simply tell them and transfer them over. So it is no surprise to the boss that this stuff is going on, but he probably doesn't care as much since she knows she's leaving in the next month.

I love the idea of used bookstores in airports!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

(to whom she reports)

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to Amanda:

I first thought I saw "BLAMEOSPHERE" which is a good term.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

I'm supposed to buy her a baby shower present tonight. At least it will be for the baby's use and not just for her...bbbut still.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

(to whom she reports)

Don't say this around Kenan.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

As a kid I used to look forward to the airport so I could get some cheap sci-fi novels at the used bookstore and some crappy fast food (morning -- french toast sticks at Burger King, afternoon -- Pizza Hut cheese pizza).

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

If there was smoking, used books, AND make-out

Ok, serious question. What's everyone else's definition of making out? It always makes me think of high school sexual frustration. You know, like, smooching and groping, but not pants removing. Do other people define making out as possibly including using your naughty bits?

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

If I'm using it as a euphamism. Otherwise, no.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

What's everyone else's definition of making out?

i prefer to leave it undefined. it is what it is and the more nebulous that phrase is the better, in my mind.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Not really, but I'll use the term "make-out" for various activities to lighten the seriousness/smut factor in general conversation, and add a note of PG 13-rated frivolity. Strictly speaking, I agree with your definition.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Ah. I understand perfectly.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Same here.

xpost to Jesse but I agree with Laurel too

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

Me too. What Laurel said.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

Me to a friend IRL: "We made out." Meaning that we didn't go too far.

Me to ILX: "I would totally make out with her." Meaning that my actual description of what I would do to her would make James Joyce blush.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

I love the idea of used bookstores in airports!

Then come to Portland!

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

James Joyce...What an odd choice of person to use as an example of a naugthy old man.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

Can we talk about something else? Something really bloodless and boring?

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

Something really bloodless and boring?

milton berle?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:09 (nineteen years ago)

Who zat?

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

Were the "Guee" Guys gay guys?

The French-Canadian "Guee" Guy I know is gay, yes. And a masterful pastry chef.

Who zat?

Uh...?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Chris, Have you ever played with the band the v1llage green?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

two pictures of my nephew/godson this weekend:

incognito baby
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c97/effyoutoo/incognitobaby.jpg

brotherly love
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c97/effyoutoo/brotherlylove.jpg

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Awwwww! Kitty and baby!

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

that kitty is blind by the way. sis and bro in law had to move a couch to accomodate guests and poor kitty spent the weekend walking head first into it.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Nice! Thanks for sharing, otto! What is your nephew's name? (and the kitty's?)

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

nephew = thomas
kitty = sigamund

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

He's a really pretty baby. And lots of babies aren't!

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:22 (nineteen years ago)

That's a very grownup looking shirt he has on.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Gah, babies are really cute, aren't they. He has a pronounced little chinnigan.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

any pics of puppies and babies?

last night and the night before i heard about how bad crime is in new orleans. i heard, from 2 different people, "you can't even leave your wallet and keys on the bar when you go to the bathroom anymore!" and "things have changed, you shouldn't leave your wallet on the bar anymore."

the old-timers tell me that is how you used to mark your spot at the bar.

DID YOU KNOW...

...In less than a week, I'll be in Chicago? Actually, in about one week I'll be leaving Chicago.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

So...Milton Berle was a stand-up comic/host/entertainer and sometime actor with a gambling problem? Thank you, wikipedia.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, Come to our FF Show on the 12th!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

"you can't even leave your wallet and keys on the bar when you go to the bathroom anymore!"

!!

It has never even occurred to me to do this, not even once.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

he is a handsome baby, i told my sister i was worried he wouldn't be much to look at but those fears were unfounded. the shirt was somewhat grownup as evidenced by the teddy bear on the left breast. he got dressed up after his christening, he was crashing on the couch after a long day of excitement (well, for a 3 month old).

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

So...Milton Berle was a stand-up comic/host/entertainer and sometime actor with a gambling problem? Thank you, wikipedia.

You forgot the purportedly huge cock.

Also: he was Mr. Television!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

So...Milton Berle was a stand-up comic/host/entertainer and sometime actor with a gambling problem?

he's also dead (bloodless) and unfunny (boring).
and rumored to have been endowed generously.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, the wallet on the bar thing is weird.

I watched half of the Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip pilot on my iPod on the way to work today. Productive!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

i read 30 pages of the man with the golden arm. oh frankie machine, i don't like the way things are slipping for you.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

Have you not seen the movie?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

and the boarding house where frankie and sophie were to supposed to live is 1860 w. division, an address that doesn't exist. the 1800 block only goes up to 1856, it's a bank. they do a lot of their drinking at a dive down the street which is across from a more upscale "club". in my mind this is zakopane and the gold star.

xpost- never seen the movie but planning on it after i read the book.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

From the looks of his photos, he was pretty bloodless even pre-humously.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - Oh! You should see it then. The soundtrack is awesome.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/b/bernst_elme_manwithth_101b.jpg

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

It's too bad the movie wasn't shot in Chicago.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

in the movie does sinatra's version of frankie play drums or trumpet? 'cause it's drums in the book but my boss said it was trumpet in the movie which i would imagine would be easier to fake.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

I never knew there was a movie version, but it's funny that that's like every movie poster from that era:

http://rateyourmusic.com/album_images/85367.jpg http://home.flash.net/~park29/vertigo.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

I saw the movie version in my 1950s class in college. I think there was another guy in the movie who was a trumpet player, but it wasn't Frankie. I thought he was supposed to be the Chet Baker character.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

I would love to see Sinatra play drums.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

I learned while GISing that Saul Bass is the artist responsible for that image, which is considered iconic enough to be on the wikipedia entry for "graphic design."

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Saul Bass (May 8, 1920 - April 25, 1996) was a graphic designer, but is best known for his design on motion picture title sequences, which is thought of as the best such work ever seen.

During his 40-year career he worked for some of Hollywood's greatest filmmakers, including most notably Alfred Hitchcock, plus Otto Preminger, Stanley Kubrick and Martin Scorsese. His most famous title sequence is probably the animated paper cut-out of a heroin addict's arm for Preminger's The Man with the Golden Arm.

Saul Bass designed the 6th AT&T Bell System logo, that at one point achieved a 93 percent recognition rate in the United States. He also designed the AT&T "globe" logo for AT&T after the break up of the Bell System.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

the movie version was unrated by the mpaa. otto preminger wanted freedom.

unrelated: it's thundering like an atomic bomb out here chicago.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Interesting. So Bass did Anatomy of a Murder and Vertigo, too, it looks like.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago, This is not me:
http://www.netwear.de/peanuts/shirt_woodstock_happy_camper_vintage_gross.gif

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Whoops. F'n huge pic.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

:( You should transfer ALL calls to that C*NT.

It has never even occurred to me to do this, not even once.

Me neither! I even take my drink with me to the bathroom unless I trust someone to watch it.

Jordan, do you know Mimi's in the Marigny? It got robbed (so did Big Daddy's and a couple other places in the Marigny during the past couple of weeks). One of the patrons was robbed in the hold-up. She is known for always leaving an enormous wad of cash on her table which is next to an open window. I don't want to blame any victims, but....

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but there's the whole "drinking at your local" thing where people put a couple of bills on the bar with the understanding that the bartender will keep refilling/reordering for them until the visible bills are used up. That way your glass is never empty and the 'keep knows you're good for it.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

It's not practical on, say a busy Saturday, but it's sort of an ideal.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

at my local they just assume i'm starting a tab and have a high life waiting for me before i sit down. i hate it when they get new bartenders, though it is good for a laugh when the waitress catches the barkeep carding me.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, rly. I don't know that place though.

Guy has agreed to be my getaway driver for the furniture. He has a big red pickup truck.

xpost

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

CARDING you? Because you look about 19??

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

Aww, fuck a Hemant. I talked to the dude THREE HOURS AGO and said "please do not sell your furniture to anybody else. I definitely want to buy it, and I will call you back in a few hours after I secure help to pick it up."

I just called dude and he said "sorry, I have already sold everything to other guy."

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

carding me because chicago liquor commission sends in people to see if the bars card. establishments can lose their license if anyone drinking on site can not prove they're of age. so if your grandpa doesn't have his id the bar can be shuttered.

i used to get carded a lot more when my hair was shorter. i looked younger and more sickly then.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but there's the whole "drinking at your local" thing where people put a couple of bills on the bar with the understanding that the bartender will keep refilling/reordering for them until the visible bills are used up. That way your glass is never empty and the 'keep knows you're good for it.

Huh? Is this also like "if you tip more than a dollar a drink" you'll start getting free drinks? I.e. something that has never happened to me unless I personally known the bartender? I guess I just don't go to the same bar often enough -- I like to mix it up.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

Huh? Is this also like "if you tip more than a dollar a drink" you'll start getting free drinks?

it's standard practice at every bar i've ever been in for the last 30 years. and the free drinks thing happens to me all the time. usually either the third or fourth is free, depending on who is tending to the bar.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

I have to try this as an experiment (I always just tip a dollar per drink).

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

You know, I don't know what I was talking about, because I never tip more than a dollar a drink, either.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

I don't tip more than a dollar a drink either, unless the drink was free in which case I can tip, like, three bucks and still be a little big ahead.

Yeah, I think getting buy-backs is a sort of loose amalgamation of a) knowing the bartender, b) being a repeat customer, c) ordering several of the same thing in a row and getting comfortable, indicating that if the bar makes you happy, you'll settle in and keep drinking and spending money. It also helps if you and your party are quiet, calm, and generally good for the vibe of the establishment. Although that last one probably really only applies at locals/dives/old man bars where people like to be quiet and taking their drinking seriously.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Word. The reason I got confused is that I know I've ranted about this on ILX before, where people have said that bartenders have given them free drinks just because, even if they're only tipping a dollar a drink, and that's really only happened to me a few times, most notably with Brian at Leadway. Last time it happened was a couple months ago at Subterranean, because the dude tending bar knew I was in C4n4st4. Maybe it'll also happen at the very end of the night. But it's not a regular occurrence by any means.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

laurel otm on all 3 counts.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Tipping more than a dollar a drink and expecting freebies seems risky, though. Especially if you're in a crowded bar where the bartender doesn't necessarily notice what you've left as a tip.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Yurrp.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

I always tip more than $1 per drink. Or 70% of the time. And 75% of the time I get free drinks. It's kind of to the point that I feel entitled to free drinks. At the Rennaissance and a couple other bars I feel raped if I don't drink practically for free.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:53 (nineteen years ago)

And I never leave money on the bar, except for tips.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

Tipping more than a dollar a drink and expecting freebies seems risky, though.

that's because you shouldn't expect anything. you tip because you appreciate the work that the bartender is doing not because you expect something in return.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'll save my money then.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

working on being the richest man in the cemetary john?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

Tipping is its own reward, then?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

Definitely, don't try to make your mark on a crowded weekend night. You have to drink during the week (or during the DAY) to become part of the furniture. Try this: Go to the same place on quiet nights over the course of a few weeks, be cool with a couple of rounds of a good, solid drink (ie not something that will take the bartender 7 minutes to make*), tip on the fair-to-generous side, make conversation with other patrons or read a book, relax, go home without incident. Repeat until the other regulars know you. If the bar allows, order in food and offer to pick up something for the staff. The total course will get you more than buy-backs, it'll get you a reputation as a considerate person who knows what's up.

*A girl can get away with a fussier drink (as opposed to beer or whisky), as long as it's a classic and you stick with it. Make, I dunno, a sidecar or a Negroni your signature order.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

(xpost) No, I just don't have enough money to go around tipping more than a dollar per drink. Sorry! Goddammit, I'm not a miserly person. I may have been at one time, but for the last few years, I've been pretty free and easy with cash -- but now since I have half as much in the bank as I did in 2002, I'm trying to be a little more conscientious, and what do I get? People accusing me of being overly thrifty. Well fine! Look, I don't expect to ever make more than $40,000/year, but I'd at least like to have a reasonably nice apartment and be able to go out to restaurants and movies and bars every so often, so I'm just making sure that I can live comfortably, k?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, if you're not sitting AT the bar, it helps A LOT if you bus the empty glasses off your own table. Plus it's a nice thing to do.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

I tip well because I know that bartenders and servers put up with a lot of shit and get stiffed a lot. My extra big tip is necessary to ensure that this person is making a decent wage. It's one way I can directly ensure that another person is making a living wage. At the same time, it is customary for the bartender to acknowledge a good tipper with a free drink, an upgrade in liquor, a top-off or a bigger or stronger drink.

xpost-- On a really busy night you can ensure that you are getting good service by tipping well. Starting off with a generous tip gets the bartenders attention. When I was a server my known cheapskates or stiffers would get the time I had when I wasn't paying close attention to generous and respectful patrons. The bartenders at C35 had some leeway to be bitchy and completely ignore a patron who stiffed them.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Why would you not expect to ever make over $40K? I don't understand that at all.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Make, I dunno, a sidecar or a Negroni your signature order.

I don't even know what these are. I drink beer.

offer to pick up something for the staff.

What?

The total course will get you more than buy-backs, it'll get you a reputation as a considerate person who knows what's up.

Um, but what if I don't care about a stellar reputation? If I'm going to a bar, I just want to have a good time and get drunk. I don't care if I get free drinks or not -- I recognize that bars are in the business of making money, so I'm going to have to pay for alcohol. It doesn't seem all that unfair to me.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Why would you not expect to ever make over $40K? I don't understand that at all.

What would I ever do that would allow me to make more than that?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Okay. (XP)

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Advanced question: do you then tip the same amount on your free drink?

And if your first tip is big, are you expected to maintain that level of tipping?

John: copy editing.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

The way you people are talking reminds of me of all those threads a while ago where I bitched about dating and relationships and how I hated the gamesmanship of it all. That you have to play by certain secret rules in order to make things happen. Except the difference is, that was frustrating because I was like "oh fuck, I have to put on this whole unnatural routine if I ever want to get laid?" -- and with this, I'm getting perfectly drunk without following these arcane codes of pub etiquette.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Uh...huh.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

John: copy editing.

If you know of a copy editing job that pays more than $40K and isn't related to business or finance or something that makes me want to claw my eyes out from boredom and/or confusion, then let me know.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

I think the rule of all rules is: don't be cheap.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

So you think I'm being cheap because I only tip a dollar a drink? I thought that was standard!

Fine, I'm only drinking at home from now on.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

Or does this all go back to the fact that I didn't buy my mom dinner, even though she REFUSED to let me?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

The shame and the horror:

I am the shameful owner of the email address ks@ms@jk1@aol.com.

I need internet in Mich and didn't have the patience to find and use the Michnet that Dan recommended.

The real horror will come when I go to cancel my account.


xpost--
I tip about the cost of the drink itself on a free drink.
I think it's OK for tips to become more normal after an initial BIG tip.
OTM on the "considerate person" thing.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

I gotta agree with John here -- I don't really care to invest that kind of cash/time/energy into a bar. Not only do I not have the money, I think I would rather they NOT know my name and my drinking habits. I like to keep that to myself.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, I think it's noble that you look out for your fellow service-industry workers, but I also don't think it's our responsibility to make up for other people's lousy tipping.

Amanda -- the thing is, I LIKE spending time in bars! But whatever...

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

I still agree with you.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

John, no. I wasn't calling you cheap. I usually only tip a dollar a drink, too, at least until I'm good and pissky. I was just saying that that's the rule, is all.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

I think $1 per drink is COMPLETELY FINE. Seriously, that's good.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

A dollar a drink is Queer Eye recommended.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just being sensitive about being called cheap these days, because I am trying so hard to be conscientious about my money.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

The pay-off comes when you go to a bar where you're known as a Good Patron and (as happens to Kevin) you drink all night and get a $10 tab. Or like at the Rennaissance, where a couple of the bartenders put 1 drink on my tab, yet I drink a dozen. Or where they give me samples of whatever concoctions they dreamed up.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

I think I would rather they NOT know my name and my drinking habits. I like to keep that to myself.

But where else can you be where people see your troubles are all the same?

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

I would never call anyone cheap for tipping standard tips (18% for food or $1 per drink (NOT per ORDER!)).

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

All I'm saying is that not throwing excessive amounts money at a bartender so s/he will be your friend is an excellent way to conserve cash so you can spend it on the things that will actually make you happy in the long run.

Keep in mind that I have never drank a dozen drinks in one night in my life and rarely make it past three in public.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

And that I owe several people here a beer thanks on account of the last TT I attended. Which I fully intend to buy for them!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

This is such a big topic, John. I feel like, again, it depends on where Quality of Life issues are worth it for you. It's not just getting drunk, for me, it's going to a bar where, if I get hassled or another patron is an asshole, the bartender and/or other regulars will look out for me. Or where they get my drink out as I'm sitting down. Or realizing that I've gotten a refill without asking. It's belonging, and not in a "changed self to fit in" way, more in a "family and friends and other known quantities" way, and knowing that other people are noticing me, and being purposefully considerate just as I am to them. Familiarity & warmth & mutual respect. For me, that's worth cultivating a certain establishment (witness our Monday Night Drinking Club!).

Also, if a certain sphere matters to you, of course you're more attentive to the nuances therein. Some people care about appearing well/being liked by their clergy, for some it's business circles, others intellectuals, their social/financial "betters", their families, etc. I like to be in good with people who take drinking seriously. :D

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

When I walk into a bar, I like it if everyone yells, "Norm!"

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

I hope I didn't sound hoity toity -- I just am not really much of a drinker so it doesn't pay off for me to invest in any relationships whose main purpose is to provide me with drinks. THERE. I said it! I am not a drinker.

On the other hand, I do schmooze heavily with the Adult Ed. department and bring them free food.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

Why would you not expect to ever make over $40K? I don't understand that at all.

More succinct answer to this question: Because I'd rather be happy than rich.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:39 (nineteen years ago)

On the other hand, I do schmooze heavily with the Adult Ed. department and bring them free food.

SEE!! Hahah. This is exactly what I meant.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Oh sure! Last week they got homemade bread, coffee and bananas.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

It's not just getting drunk, for me, it's going to a bar where, if I get hassled or another patron is an asshole, the bartender and/or other regulars will look out for me. Or where they get my drink out as I'm sitting down. Or realizing that I've gotten a refill without asking. It's belonging, and not in a "changed self to fit in" way, more in a "family and friends and other known quantities" way, and knowing that other people are noticing me, and being purposefully considerate just as I am to them.

That's cool and all, I just don't think I've ever expected that out of a bar. I mean, I go to bars to hang out with my friends in a place where alcohol is available and smoking is permitted. It's sometimes fun when you strike up conversations with other clientele -- I mean, duh, that's how I met Kr -- but in my experience, this is largely unintended.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

... and smoking is permitted.

Ah, yes. These days in NYC, the point above is an EXCELLENT reason to make friends with bartenders.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

I love friendly strangers at bars. Especially old people. Old bar regulars are the best talkers.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Making friends with a bartender is ALWAYS a good idea. I have a couple of bars here in NO where I return from the bathroom to find an upside-down go cup (indicating 1 free beer or house liquor) front of me just for being me.

It's not just about the fere drinks, but what Laurel said, they look out for you, and they're good at giving you pointers, telling you interesting stories, etc. LOCAL COLOR, yo.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

Taking sides: making friends with the bartender vs. going home with the bartender

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

More succinct answer to this question: Because I'd rather be happy than rich.

Still doesn't make sense. It sounds like you're forgetting that you can get paid reasonably while not hating yourself every day.

The starting salaries for |WJ - a non-profit (limited budget) are 35K.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

they look out for you

I don't get harassed at bars.

and they're good at giving you pointers

Like what?

telling you interesting stories

That's what my friends are for.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

I tip a dollar a drink, too.

Thanks for the tips, Jesse - I was never sure what to tip on a free drink.

I don't talk to strangers/bartenders much, but give me a NY Times or a pinball machine and I'll stick around all afternoon.

If you know of a copy editing job that pays more than $40K and isn't related to business or finance or something that makes me want to claw my eyes out from boredom and/or confusion, then let me know.

Hey, what's the difference between -$40K to be on ILX and +$40K?

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

It sounds like you're forgetting that you can get paid reasonably while not hating yourself every day.

Not in my experience.

Hey, what's the difference between -$40K to be on ILX and +$40K?

ILX = luxury to do what I like when I'm at work, as long as I fulfill my work duties in a reasonably timely manner. This is important to me. 8 hours straight of doing nothing but working for the man sounds horrible.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Girl drinking alone = recipe for getting harassed at most places. Although what am I talking about, the only place I ever drink alone is Sunday afternoons down the street when the place is almost empty. Still, I get buybacks and conversations with the bartender about local uprisings and how long until my favorite Brooklyn bar is torn down to make way for A BASKETBALL AREA FER FOOKS SAKE.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

*ARENA

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

Girl drinking alone = recipe for getting harassed at most places
Mr. Goodbar to thread.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

I like that movie.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

See, I found it terrifying. The book is scary too.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

So much so that I regretted even mentioning it seconds after I posted.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

My apologies.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

When I go out with freinds (esp Jenny and Jeff) we usually wind up chatting with the bartender. The bartenders at Simon's are examples of bartender-friends who is interesting to talk to. And who make interesting drinks for you, including the Chocolate Cake shot.

If you're new in a city bartender-friend are essential.

xpost-- when I say "look out for you" I mean they keep away the bad element at the bar. Cf, Tyrone from last night. Shannon was my bartender, and he was good at running interference.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

It is pretty terrifying. Or at least depraved.

Also, a strong contender for Most 70's Movie of the 70's.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

8 hours straight of doing nothing but working for the man sounds horrible.

Of course, I'd totally work the $40K+/no-ILX job if it was fun. But if it was fun, then it wouldn't be work.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

I'd say $3 or the cost of the drink (whichever is less) is a reasonable amount to tip on a freebie.

Let's vote.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds about right. I'm usually so flustered when I get a free one that I don't remember to tip more than a dollar.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

if you tip well on a freebie, it makes more freebies more likely. 3 sounds good.

Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

John-- what about 55 hours at a job you found rewarding?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

So a freebie is kind a drink-with-no-tip?

John, you're putting all this work talk into black and white. No job is all fun or all hell.

Eazy (Eazy), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

I also tip the value of the drink when it's free.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

Unless it's free because I'm playing a gig there, in which case I tip a dollar.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

55 hours a week doing one thing sounds pretty awful, frankly, no matter what it is. Again, it's hard to imagine finding A JOB rewarding, though. At least rewarding enough to give up that much of your time. I mean, it's somewhat rewarding when I catch errors and my corrections are implemented, and especially so on the rare occasion when I make an unsolicited suggestion that gets taken into consideration (i.e. putting Kelly Clarkson in the almanac, replacing MC Hammer with the Beastie Boys as an example of "1980s rappers") --but it's not like I get any credit for that, and the warm feelings are fleeting.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

I love the bartenders at Simon's. The owners, too. You get more freebies from the owners, and anyway they're all really nice.

John, work doesn't always have to suck. I think you've arranged for yourself an active social and creative life, but a really boring job. Which is fine. But when Canasta gets that million dollar record deal, things will change.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

Unless it's free because I'm playing a gig there, in which case I tip a dollar.

Right, I do this, too.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

I could spend 55 hours a week sitting in front of a computer and dicking around with it. What am I saying... I do spend 55 hours a week doing that. I don't get paid for all of it, though.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I think you've arranged for yourself an active social and creative life, but a really boring job. Which is fine.

1. If I really wanted to arrange for myself an active creative life, I wouldn't be sitting behind a computer for 40 hours/week. (Or join a six-person band where one of the dudes is a control freak, but that's another story.)

2. Is my job really that boring? I don't know, it can be pretty interesting at times. It can also be quite tedious, though, and I rarely feel that invested in it, if that's what you mean. What I *have* done is arranged for a job where I don't ever have to put in more than 40 hours and I don't have to think about work outside of the office.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

I think of a freebie as a "free tip" unless it's an expensive drink. These are not rules that I have thought of too much, but just the way I've done things.

55 hours a week doing one thing sounds pretty awful,

That's the thing. There are a lot of jobs with tons of variety.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

By all means, lead me in the direction of these interesting, exciting jobs with tons of variety and a starting salary of $40K+.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

I had a bomb grilled cheese for lunch. Couple kinds of cheese, bacon, tomato, thick-ass marbled rye, fruit on the side. I thought of Otto.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

(Also, NB: I have to be qualified for them.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Do you not have the opportunity to move up within your work now?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Move up? To what?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

John, have you considered a career in male modeling?

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Or TV VCR repair.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Why sit there playing video games when you could be DESIGNING THEM!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I'm the kind of person they would want to promote (most senior copy editors have been here for 10+ years, and I don't think I show enough initiative to score a plum job in the editorial department), and I'm not sure I would want a promotion anyway. That's the reason why I left my last job: because they wanted to promote me, which would entail me working 50 hours/week. The job wasn't nearly exciting enough to justify that sacrifice, never mind the fact that they weren't giving me a raise.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to John

How should I know to what? It's just the usual thing to start with a company at one level and then make moves, moves that lead you upward. I'm not talking about extreme corporate climbing, but just keeping an eye open for opportunities. We've talked about this before.

Holding still seems like an opportunity for stagnation to me.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

I've never been made aware of opportunities.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

(I've only been here for two years.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not sure I've lived up to my own belief, but I feel like I should be growing, otherwise I'm dying. Like a plant, or like the economy.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, I would fucking love to be in a position to make editorial decisions on things, like which notable figures get a biography in the annual yearbook, but the people who make decisions like that started here before I was born.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

This talk is starting to make me feel afraid.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Of what?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

FYI, it makes me feel depressed.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like I'm stagnant, but reflecting just now, I think I've grown. I moved up in the service industry, acquired some good experience volunteering which led me to the job I'm in now which is great for the old resume and may lead to a permanent position at |WJ. And I would not be satisfied if that did not lead to something even better.

I would like to move into the HIV/AIDS advocacy-type stuff. Being a Troublemaker in the field of HIV/AIDS.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

Ideal job: one where I had more responsibility than I do now (and thus felt more invested in what I was doing) but wasn't required to work overtime every day as a result.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

I mean even within the restaurant industry I think I can be proud of my progress: seedy Chinese buffet in BFE, NC; Ruby Tues.; Asian-Low Country, Casual-Fine Dining; The Boat; C35. Increase in $, decrease in how hard the work is.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

I like troublemakers (XXXP).

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe you should look for newer companies?

xpost

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

That's the ticket, I think. Or ride out a couple of years as a newbie in one place, then step from there. Or not. Do what makes you happy! I'm not judging!

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yes, a job with more money, less drudgery, and less commitment. Perfect! For me and you and the rest of the human race. :(((

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of working...I think it's time to check in at the office. This working from home makes me feel like a slacker.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

The newer companies give you plenty of responsibility but also make you work overtime. Plus, lots of internal drama. See: my last job.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

I never received a copy of my Employee Manual. I know I have to be due some sick days.

I found out that on your first year you get 3 weeks paid vacation!

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yes, a job with more money, less drudgery, and less commitment. Perfect! For me and you and the rest of the human race. :(((

That's not what I'm saying. I don't care about money. I want responsibility and satisfaction.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Unless less drudgery = more responsibility? I suppose.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

The newer companies give you plenty of responsibility but also make you work overtime. Plus, lots of internal drama. See: my last job.

See also, my job. I'm pretty happy with it though.

I don't care about money. I want responsibility and satisfaction.

I'm not into the responsibility without the money, unless it's something I REALLY care about. Like music, or maybe if I was doing something extremely socially useful (like Jenny or Jesse).

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

There IS something wrong with the assumption that if you want to do anything other than totally crappy work at your job, you'll be willing to devote MORE than 40 hours a week to it -- because what the fuck, don't we deserve personal lives? At the same time, it's a good argument for getting into a field you like in and of itself (see: book publishing).

XP: Yeah, I'd love to do less paperwork and more innovative projects! But that's not the nature of my job, and there is ALWAYS more to go wrong with an innovative project, and TONS less auto-pilot time for me to be writing to ILX.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

Like music, or maybe if I was doing something extremely socially useful (like Jenny or Jesse).
You made the teacherer cry.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

But I only said that because for the FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I am happy with my job. HAPPY! Satisfied! I get butterflies when I go into class, but I almost always leave happy. I love it. That's worth a lot.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

OR LIKE AMANDA, WHO SAVES THE WORLD ONE IMMIGRANT AT A TIME!!!!!!!!!!!

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:48 (nineteen years ago)

But I only said that because for the FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I am happy with my job. HAPPY! Satisfied! I get butterflies when I go into class, but I almost always leave happy. I love it. That's worth a lot.

that's so great.

Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

(or at least socially admirable)

xpost

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry Amanda, you're totally right!

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

(see: book publishing).

I've done this for the last six years. I find it marginally more interesting than lots of things but not something I want to devote my life to.

I'm not into the responsibility without the money

I'm into the responsibility if it means that I'm doing a variety of things and thinking creatively and finding solutions, etc., because it makes the time go by more quickly.

I had this experience at my last job, when I was put in charge of fact-checking operations for the same project I'm working on at my current job. I had to train new employees, I made charts to monitor people's progress, I corresponded with people in different departments, and I generally felt important and valuable. And I applied for the position at my current job in part because I liked working on that project so much. Except now I'm just a lowly copy editor who has no domain over anyone else, and I never talk to anyone at all. Five years later, I'm working on the same project, but with far fewer responsibilities. I'm a social person: I need a job where I can capitalize on that.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe it's time to start looking for new jobs.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe it's time for you to shut your ... oh wait, you're being helpful. Yeah, maybe it is.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

Helpful is Amanda's last, middle, and first name(s). After all, she DOES work 6 days a week saving the world.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

Is it like Tony! Toni! Tone!?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Shit dude, I thought that was what everyone else was saying but not saying. What's the big deal? Lots of people look for new jobs-- it's not like I said you were a maggotbrained bozo.

Also, I have enough free time to download salsa from emusic's Fania collection in between world-saving jaunts. Also, I'm not saying that I'm saving the world. Just helping one teensy bit.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

You said this! I'm a social person: I need a job where I can capitalize on that.

That sounds like someone who is just about to write a cover letter.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

The pay-off comes when you go to a bar where you're known as a Good Patron and (as happens to Kevin) you drink all night and get a $10 tab.

extenuating (sp?) circumstances at this particular establishment. i would in no way expect what happens there to happen to me at my regular bar.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Only problem: I have no idea what jobs I could possibly apply for. I've never worked outside of publishing.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

I love friendly strangers at bars. Especially old people. Old bar regulars are the best talkers.

kenan, where are you living now? i know some regulars who, depending on the combination, are usually good for either being mildly entertaining or completely horrifying.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

The example paragraph in this font management program begins, "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do then by the ones you did do."

otto: north.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

I've always held that to be true, Kenan.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

But I've usually taken that to mean "go out and have threesomes," not "get a better job."

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Chris, Have you ever played with the band the v1llage green?

So I had actually never heard of this band, but just a few minutes ago I was getting pizza (or "za" for the Scrabblists), and they had a copy of their [new?] CD for sale. (The pizza place has a little CD store type display of about 10 local bands' albums, which I suppose one could buy although I've never seen anyone do that.) And I thought, Kinks much?

So, I never heard of them until thirty minutes ago, and now I've seen two separate mentions of them. They are clearly rocketing into the stratosphere!

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

I always thought that quote simmers down to "take risks."

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

"with the ladies"

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Chris, We played with them last night. I thought their music was great, but they didn't really chit chat with us at all.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

I often get the urge to "do something" with my life, a la quitting my job and trying to live off the land and travel.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

i look at my life and my job as two different things. it's probably not the best way to do it but it's my particular outlook. a job is just something i'm doing, a means to an end to provide for the life i want to live. i'll have a thousand jobs, i'll only lead one life. i'm not making any sense but you get the general idea.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm almost positive I saw The VG open for...The Lucksmiths? a number of years ago at a club that's closed now. (Sniff.) Kinks-y, sure, but that's what I like: guitarmonies + handclaps.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

that explains the dc snipers i guess. oh wait, no it doesn't.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

Handclaps make everything better.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

I realized the other day that we didn't put any handclaps on the new album. Oops.

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

I need sleep = an entertaining band.
It is also a statement of fact.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

i
need to sleep
why won't
you let me

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

I want to say that I admire John in many ways and am not criticizing his lifestyle choices. His role in Canasta is enviable. I wish I had some passion or interest like that that I could pursue because I totally would. I am only doing what I'm doing because 1. I'm lucky to have fallen into it, and 2. it's an opportunity to be on the side of Good 3. path of least resistance.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think there's anything wrong with how John is living, but it seems like he is both frustrated with his job and sees no possibility or hope for change, which is what inspired all the comments.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, the fact that he sees no means for change is what gets me. And the fact that he has no desire for it.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

I love Sarah's Gmail status.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

It's not that I don't desire change, although I can certainly be resistant to it. And I do still find it hard to believe that I could make more than $40,000 and be happy, so basically I've accepted that this is my lot in life. It's not a bad lot, though.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

PLANN FOR TOMORROW:

FLY TO O'HARE
-- If none of you will come meet me during my 4 hour layover, then
LEARN HTML

FLY TO MICHIGAN

GET FATTER

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe you could find an interesting, high-paying job that requires you to work over 40 hours SOMETIMES, but not all the time.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

JORDAN! I always say that. Did you say that on purpose?? Handclaps/banjo/cowbells make everything better.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, what would I be good at? Publishing as a rule isn't a high-paying field. Neither is teaching, which is the one thing that I'll cry about if I don't do before I die. If you guys are determined for me to make mad cash, give me some options.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

I always say that too! Except not about banjos. Cowbells, yeah. Tambourines, for sure.

Uh, you could do software testing, John?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Which is wha,t exactly?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Dammit John. You can't expect to just move right into making money in anything. But I don't think that $40K in a non-hateful job is such an unattainable goal for someone in your position. If I can do it, you certainly can. And I can. I think.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

You can't expect to just move right into making money in anything.

I don't! This is my point!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

It's what I do. Quality assurance, testing software from a user perspective (i.e. non- or semi-technical).

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:55 (nineteen years ago)

Can I do it? What are they qualifications?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

http://chicago.metblogs.com/archives/2006/10/jeppsons_malort.phtml

Why did it take that PC guy for Malort to get this type of attention? It should already the world's most famous liquor.

Jeff. (Jeff), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

You could make over $40k as a prof, John. Would you be interested at all in going back to school?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Neither is teaching, which is the one thing that I'll cry about if I don't do before I die.
Uh, what you waitin' for?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Courtney for example went from 28K to looking at a position that pays 60K-80K in 6 years. Not that she will get it, but she is qualified.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

sorry, i didn't mean to share that info. she just told me and i'm excited
for her.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Can I do it? What are they qualifications?

It totally depends. You could work at the company I do, they only require a college degree (in anything), and for you to do well on whatever tests they decide to give you. I'm really not sure how the rest of the industry works.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

Can anyone recommend any temp agencies in Chicago?

I hope like crazy that I get this job with |WJ, and I'm somewhat optimistic, but I need a contingency plan!

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Uh, what you waitin' for?

To be sure that this is something really what I want to commit myself to.

You could make over $40k as a prof, John.

Eventually, yeah, probably. My dad didn't make much more than that for a long time, though.

Would you be interested at all in going back to school?

I'm always interested in going back to school. I just don't know what I'd study. And when faced with years of debt, I'd want to make sure it was worth it.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

if i could do it all over again i'd be an electrician.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Seconded! I'd be a plumber.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

A lady plumber.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Now, off to teach. Catch you later, Stiv Bators.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

actually, the plumbers here at work encourage their sons to be electricians. no heavy lifting, no standing in putrid foul water, no falling into open manholes when you're hip deep in water.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

plumbers, don't let your babies grow up to be plumbers...

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

later gators, i'm out for a snootful then to watch lost.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

bye bye Kev-mo. Bye bye.

Lowest point of my day:

I signed on to AOL and heard 'WELCOME!'

'YOU'VE GOT MAIL!'

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Is it still the same voice?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yes. A lot is still the same, just WAY MORE OF IT.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

I could never be a plumber. Too much poop.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse could be a plumber.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

I couldn't too much temptation.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff, sing to me more about Malört!

Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 22:06 (nineteen years ago)

"I'd like to be a hairdresser. Or two. I'd like to be two hairdressers ..."

literalisp (literalisp), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 22:56 (nineteen years ago)

Hey Chicago!

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

oops


I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

no horizontal rule was to be had on that evening...

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 5 October 2006 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

I meant to say earlier:

Laurel and I are AS ONE (as usual) about the bar thing. We're like cosmic internet half a country away soul sisters.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

Someone told me that Lost would be available on iTunes an hour after the show ended. Why was I lied to?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 02:32 (nineteen years ago)

hello Chicago. I am now John's Facebook friend, so I can stalk him. I just got back from seeing the Red Elvises and now my ears have that post-concert alcohol and bass ringing. They had cowbell AND handclaps AND keytar AND accordian and cute Russian people. It was like an overload of Perestroika fun. I think they're playing in Madison this weekend. For the first part of the show, my co-worker I met up with wasn't there so I hid behind a pillar so I wouldn't be that girl all alone at a bar "Mr Goodbar" type mentioned above.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 5 October 2006 03:09 (nineteen years ago)

It's on ABC's website.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 03:14 (nineteen years ago)

Not yet it isn't.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 03:23 (nineteen years ago)

Damn. If that means that I can watch the entire episode online right now...I'm in trouble. (Have to get up at 5).

I'm going to resist and hope it's still up tomorrow while I'm on layover forever.

Bad news.
I have no long sleeve shirts, much less a jacket. (It says low of 32 tomorrow night in West Branch, MI.)

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 5 October 2006 03:33 (nineteen years ago)

Oh dammit. I've started something I can't help but finish.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 5 October 2006 03:35 (nineteen years ago)

I think the Red Elvises play in Madison a lot. I've been meaning to see them for years (since watching Six String Samurai) but never have.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

xpost to John-- it seems to me that it's up...

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 5 October 2006 03:36 (nineteen years ago)

Wait. That is an old episode. WT?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 5 October 2006 03:44 (nineteen years ago)

I watched the podcast interview of the writers. David is adorable. He and Carlton rely on playing like there's homoerotic goings on between them.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 5 October 2006 04:03 (nineteen years ago)

Did you blueliners get to work okay this morning? http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/85299,crash100506.article

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

i took a cab, just got here. 25 minutes late.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

blue line heading west is effectively shutdown at western. trains from o'hare/loop get to western then head back inbound. which is a bit of a problem for those like me who board at western and expect to be able to go west.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

Good mornin', Jenny & Kevin.

So, I got today's baby shower gift at Paper D0ll and I went ahead and bought wrapping paper there too... and it is SO cute - little pastel polka dots with tiny SPERM inside them (um, just drawings, not actual sperm).

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 5 October 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

Wow.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

I've never seen such a thing, Sarah! Kind of awesome.

What happen to train??

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

A car turned over near/on the tracks, so they had to turn off the power for the train lines until the situation was resolved.

My mom is such a mom. I had sent her an email and included a positive write up we got advertising our show Tuesday. She then forwarded that to a local record store guy. He writes back something like, That's great! I hope they have a good show! which she then forwards back to me. Also, she lives in MEMPHIS.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

that car went THROUGH the jersey barrier on the side of the eisenhower, not over it. how fast and out of control do you need to be going to drive through a cement barrier?

your mom is sweet sarah. turns out i didn't miss much in memphis last weekend, so i'm glad i went to vermont instead.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

chicago, last night on the way back from my local i decided that burger king would be a really good idea. and once inside bk, i decided that their onion rings would be a SPLENDID idea. it turns out i was really really mistaken.

ooooh, bloated! painful!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

jersey barrier

Yay! Not that the driver went through it, but that you said it. Although we more often said "Jersey wall" because that's shorter.

I cannot eat at BK, particularly the onion rings. It makes me malodorous.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

i am at least malodorous and perhaps noisome.

ooooooh, hurty.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

I'm getting really excited about visiting Minneapolis this weekend (and Madison!). I think I'll leave early tomorrow. I'm taking Monday off. *happy dance*

My fingers still smell like garlic from slicing it for chilli last night. WTF? I've washed them a million times.

Chicago, It is not a good idea to sing along with your ipod at your desk, especially if the lyrics are Fuck me in the ass and call me a Rover!.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

depends where you work, dontchathink?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, sure.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

My fingers still smell like garlic from slicing it for chilli last night. WTF? I've washed them a million times.

Washing doesn't help. Try rubbing them on aluminum foil, srsly.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

I've heard stainless steel? Like a piece of silverware?

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

Weird. Ok. I don't have any at my desk, but I'll just rub them all over the office and see if that helps.

If I were staying in town this weekend, I would totally go to the Bucktown apple pie fest. Now THAT'S something to build a festival around.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

Stainless steel. Rub 'em on a spoon.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

what what what??!?? apple pie fest you say?? i need more information. seriously, NEED it. i love pie, particularly apple pie. when i was a kid i used to ask for birthday pie instead of cake (i don't like frosting). mmmmmmmmmmm, apple pie!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

I watched the podcast interview of the writers. David is adorable. He and Carlton rely on playing like there's homoerotic goings on between them.

Yeah, they're cute. I haven't seen any of the video podcasts, but I've heard the audio ones.

One thing I ask of this thread: No LOST spoilers. I don't know how I'm going to get through this day without being tempted to find out details.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Also: it's Damon, not David.

(I don't watch TV, but when I do? Look out.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

They're Madison dudes, right?

I was at rehearsal during Lost last night. Also I have no tv. In fact, I'm considering keeping up with this season just through internet recaps.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago)

i am watching lost right now.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

well, i got to watch 5 minutes 46 seconds of it before the streaming media sent up a red flag in the it department.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

So did they call you and tell you to stop watching it?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 5 October 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

Hello Chicago, apologies about the intrusion from a California citizen but . . . my band (Matmos) is playing with So Percussion at the Chicago Cultural Center tonight and our show is FREE FREE FREE FREE FREE so if you are into not paying money for things and want to say hi to a fellow ilXor come and say hey.

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

What time, Drew?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Drew! I don't know if I'll be able to make it, but I think the drummer from my band is going to be there. His name is Colin. He's pretty cool.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, I would totally go if I was in town or if it was a weekend.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'll be in the library until the wee hours but I'll think fond thoughts of free concerts and fellow ILXors.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

Matmos has presence on ILX? Is this common info to everyone? Let me know when you're in Minneapolis, Drew.

Speaking of Colin, this year's 3rd coast audio festival is featuring negativland. someone else can pass that along to him if they wish...


also: totally unrelated -- I made my first quiche crust last night & it turned out! granted, the recipe i found used an entire stick of butter, so i can't claim any health benefits BUT i did use whole wheat flour, so maybe they cancel each other out or something? does whole wheat at least dim the cholesterol?

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Was the butter in the crust or the filling?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

What was in the quiche, Kelsey? I'm trying to learn how to cook.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

Oh my god, butter and flour may only be two humble ingredients, but when you combine them to make piecrust the smell is INCREDIBLE.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:15 (nineteen years ago)

Quiche is delicious. (Whoops: my brother thinks I use the word "delicious" too much.)

Kels, remember when we saw Matmos open up for Rachel's at HotHouse?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

I need to buy flour and butter for this weekend. And a wooden spoon. And a hand mixer. And a mixing bowl. And etc.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

KELS! Did you use all butter or did you cut it with Crisco or lard? Food processor method, or cutting with knives/fingers? And did you roll it out flat or pinch it into shape?

I run my pie tins under water and put them into the freezer so they chill the dough when it goes in, and while it sits around being filled. I can't prove that it helps but it makes me feel better!

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

Just switch delicious out for delish, John. It's totally different.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

I buy pre-made pie crusts!

I'm wary of my pastry making ability. Although I can make the heck out of some biscuits.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

the butter was only in the crust, i did not cut it with shortening (or sweet lord, lard?! laurel! what are you eating?!). let's see...the quiche was a mix-match of crap we had around so i think we ended up with tofu, potatoes, onions, spinach (WI not CA), rosemary, eggs (naturally), and a little sprinkle of a sharp cheddar on top.

the crust i mixed up with a pastry cutter until the butter was mixed in enough & then i added 3 tbsps of water & clumped it together until it was good to pack in the pie tin.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:21 (nineteen years ago)

for what it's worth, i way buying the premade crusts, but the whole wheat ones at the co-op are $4 for two & I thought, "i can save $4, can't i?" the truth is, I can. i think i'm going to experiment cutting the butter with something else. even a little oil might be better . . .

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

xposts: yes! john! i do remember. that was one of my favorite shows i think. the atmosphere was so great.

and laurel, i pinched it, i think. we lack a rolling pin so i tried using a glass & it was just not working out.

who knew quiche would create such a response!

leaf & i eat it often enough b/c we figure that aside from last night's crust, it's a fairly healthy & protein heavy meal.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

I've never used lard but it's supposed to perform excellently as a shortening and add a great flavor to savory things like quiche or apple pie (not so much the other fruits that are less robust ie cherry or something). Crisco is kind of gross to handle, although it makes a decently flaky crust in the end.

My mom taught me the food processor method, but these days I usually rub the butter in by hand because I like the feel and OH DEAR LORD THE SMELL. It's a perfect thing for a cold weekend morning to have the oven started up and pie makings out. I wish my life was more like that and less like it is.

Re rolling pin: you can use a clean wine bottle!

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

I think the fact that lard is, you know, pork fat might be a deterrent here.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

also, just because i'm bumbling on & on about quiche & sarah wants to cook:
quiche is so easy! i don't make any that are nearly as thick & tall as the ones you get in cafes, but i suppose i could try...

anyway, you just cook up what you want in it (i.e. onions, taters - things that need to soften & won't cook in the oven as well), throw it in the pie pan & then dump some fluffed up eggs on top & throw it in a 350 degree oven for 20-30 minutes. check to see that eggs are cooked through with a fork or toothpick & then you are set.

i used to put a layer of cheese on the bottom, but i have found that i actually taste it more if it is sprinkled on top (& i end up using less), but if you like it really cheesy, just mix it in when you throw your fillings in and then also sprinkle some on top.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

Crisco is vegetable shortening, not lard.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

We were talking about lard earlier.

Kr made a quiche a couple months ago that she wasn't satisfied with, but I thought it was great, so it was like "All right, then, MORE FOR ME."

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

speaking of jenny's biscuits, i just made my first ones ever last weekend. leaf bought some honey & i was so incredibly fixated on pouring honey on some biscuits . . . i suspect this could turn into a repeat offense.
i'm also tempted to make some veggie sausage gravy for an indulgent breakfast some weekend...

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

speaking of jenny's biscuits

I thought only Jeff was allowed to talk about Jenny's biscuits.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite quiche: ham or bacon/swiss + whatever cheese is in fridge/scallions/tomatoes. I could eat it pretty much every day, and it re-heats all right, too.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

I love me some cheese biscuits.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

busted!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

i ate my leftover quiche for breakfast. it makes for a great breakfast.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

bacon/swiss + whatever cheese is in fridge/scallions

this would be my favorite anything, quiche, sandwich, soup, breakfast cereal, etc.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

I love making biscuits! It takes a long time though. Also, I've been wanting to make quiche but was worried my crust might end up soggy. Maybe for my first time I'll buy the crusts and try to get the rest of it right.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, to keep crust crispy! Pre-bake it a little before you put the filling in, like 10 minutes or something? It makes a crisp barrier to keep the liquidy milk & egg mixture from saturating the dough before it gets hot enough to set.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Otto: you forgot tomatoes.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

i have a torrid love/hate relationship with tomatoes. either they're spot on and perfect or they ruin everything, they're never just there and playing a bit part. so i avoid tomatoes right now.

although i would like some tomato soup and a grilled cheese sandwich for lunch.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

I had a bomb grilled cheese for lunch. Couple kinds of cheese, bacon, tomato, thick-ass marbled rye, fruit on the side. I thought of Otto.
-- Jordan (jordan...), October 4th, 2006.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/285/1762/200/poland.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

the grilled cheese at tuman's comes with tomato and it's usually pretty good, although it does stay hot long after the sandwich has reached an eatible temperature. that bacon, tomato, rye thing sounds awesome jordan.

[insert homer simpson yummy noises here]

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah, forgot this part, i don't know if it's still on the menu but the gc at bite used to come with zuchini on it. RUINED THE SAMMICH!!!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

I have fond memories of the Water Street Brewery grilled cheese:

GRILLED CHEESE SANDWICH
Cheddar and Jack cheese are grilled with avocado, tomato and sliced red onion on fresh bran bread brushed with basil butter $7.25

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

Didn't we have an argument once about whether or not that still constituted a grilled cheese, or whether it was just a grilled sandwich that happened to have cheese on it?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

xpost (and btw your comments about quiche are making me so HUNGRY I am going to die)-

our show is at 7:30 pm, I'm told that the mayor is going to be in the building so if you have any civic minded thoughts about Chicago or talking points with higher ups please keep that in mind.

Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite grilled cheese sandwhich is on buttered wheat bread with cheddar cheese, thinly sliced granny smith apples, and spicey mustard.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Julia, Where did you find a beets/mashed potatoes recipe? (or did you just wing it?)

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

the butter was only in the crust, i did not cut it with shortening (or sweet lord, lard?! laurel! what are you eating?!)

I was responding to that, John darling. Not you.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Dear Chicago

I'm in Chicago.

I wish I could stay, but I've got to go.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

This is the worst vacation ever.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

Bye, Jesse!

Jenny, Have you posted your own biscuit recipe somewhere?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 5 October 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

sarah: i have a cookbook called how to cook everything. it has tips on lots of things, and since we get mystery veggies every couple of weeks from the health food store, it's good to have some general guidance. it has all sorts of replacements/substitutions listed, and one of the suggestions for beets was to use them in the cookbook's mashed potatoes recipe, and do half beets half potatoes, mashed together.

we just took the suggestion and winged it though.

we have POMEGRANATES this week.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

Where's a good place to get used tires?

Could you use canned beets?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

submarine races are at sub-t tonight (after the matmos show so you can go to both). i am flat broke until my paycheck hits my bank account tonight so i won't be there but you should go and enjoy the 12-string rickenbacker jangle twang of their punk-informed pop songs.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Where's a good place to get used tires?

there's a sketchy place on lake street just east of central or laramie called "jones bros. tires". you can't miss the sign, it's white house paint hand painted onto a plywood board painted black. it's under the green line el on the wild wild west side. i would make nick go with you however.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

My favorite grilled cheese sandwhich is on buttered wheat bread with cheddar cheese, thinly sliced granny smith apples, and spicey mustard.

That sounds AWESOME.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

Could you use canned beets?

seems worth a try.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

This is the worst vacation ever.
Bye the way, that was a joke (I'M GONNA CUT YOUR FOREHEAD OPEN WITH A ROOFING SHINGLE).

But seriously--I'm usually very very lucky with regard to flying--early arrivals, quiet flights, nice times. But today getting up at 5, get to airport on time, but the flight is delayed because Chicago's weather sucked last night, so flights were delayed and pilots had to rest.

Louis Armstong Int'l is wack. Nothing open on the concourses, only in the terminal and I'd be damned if I'd go through the equally wack security again.

Best of all was the screaming nasty foul creature on the plane. When Mommy said, "Did you bring the YOU DIDN'T?! Oh God..." Well, Oh God was right.

For real--parents, SEDATE. YOUR. FUCKING. BABIES.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

And sedate Grandma if she's going to be all, "What's that? A plane? You see a plane? That's a plane! Oh! A plane! Planeplanplaneplaneplane! Who is that? Can you say hi? Say hi to the nice man!"

Listen Blance DuBois, I'm not that nice.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

What is a golfer's "snowman"? (I'm doing the red eye crossword)

I've never bought beets NOT in a can. Teach me about BEETS.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:12 (nineteen years ago)

most sugar in most food products comes from BEETS

gbx (skowly), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

Beet beet sugar beet beets beets sugar beet beeeeeeets.

TANK U SESAME ST

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

I eat tons and tons of beets. Sometimes 2 or 3 cans in a sitting. Then I pee pink.

I pickle them in cider vinegar with chopped yellow onion. Yum. And salt in the vinegary. Use some of the beet juice.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

It's hard to tell if this guy is speaking Spanish or Italian. I really think it's a mashup. I'm pretty sure. He keeps saying "Pedro" and "Italia" and the inflections sound like Italian, but I understand every word. Except for the occasional Itlian-sounding mess.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Nothing open on the concourses, only in the terminal and I'd be damned if I'd go through the equally wack security again.

It's still like that, huh?

Sometimes Treme Brass Band plays at the baggage claim.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

golfers snowman is an eight.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'm now certain he's speaking "Spatalian."

"Hola, como estas fromaggio-bella-notte-spaghetti-bonaducci-consiglieri. Me llamo Pedro. Ciao."

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

italian is really confusing that way. especially if you speak french too because then just about everything is understandable-ish but a bit off-sounding.

and if you suck at french and spanish, you just wonder if it's stuff you should completely understand but you're only confused because you suck.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

It is definitely a combo though. There are some words I know only exist in Spanish and he was using them but he's for sure speaking some Italian. And he has Italian writing

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

i just get confused. there was some italian movie that also took place partially in spain, and then a little bit in france, and there were english subtitles for everything of course but it was a terrible mindfuck, because the languages were all over the place.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

I think the biscuit recipe is on the blogerooo.

I hate beets.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

nuevacats_beets.mp3

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

my biscuits were made rather quickly . . . maybe they weren't as delicious though! how do you make biscuits?!

long overdue xpost...

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

I'll have your beets, then. Mmmm, beets.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

also: i love beets & can only eat canned if they are on my veggie burger. fresh is so much nicer.

xpost #2: my favorite grilled cheese is with cheddar, pickles, tomatoes & mustard.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

I love beets. They taste like dirt.

I NEED ADVICE SOON. NOW.


WHERE CAN I PLUG IN MY LAPTOP AT O'HARE!?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

aren't there a bunch of plugs at the gates?!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

INTO THE WALL SOCKET.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

I've made a couple different kinds of biscuits kesley, including sweet potato biscuits which were yum.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

or a floor socket ... i seem to recall many sockets on the floor.


SWEET POTATO BISCUITS?! sign me up!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

jesse, they're all over the terminal. usually at the end of a row of seats so they can plug in vacuum cleaners/floor buffers depending on the surface.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

or do you mean "plug in" my "laptop"?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

Crisis averted.

There were zero sockets (god i HATE that word (reminds me of my archnemisis in NO, S@ket)) near my gate. I finally found one a few gates away under a pay phone. They're not ubiquitous, at least not on concourse F.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder what happens if I make threats to national security while using O'Hare's wireless....

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 5 October 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

sweet potato biscuits sound great.

how do you cook beets, kelsey?

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 5 October 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

I, too, would enjoy sweet potato biscuits. Give up a recipe, girlie.

The last time I made beets I roasted them, julienned them, and put butter on them. Not even the butter was sufficient to rescue me from their vileness.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

I have never made peace with either beets or sweet potatoes.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

beets are groady. sweet potato fries from small bar on division are divine.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

Well Chicago... Off to Michigan. Wave hello in about 15 minutes. I'll be in the little United Express plane.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Thursday, 5 October 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

I just requested Facebook friendship from three college-age cousins who are probably going to be freaked out that I found them.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

Freshman girls still listen to Neil Diamond??

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Hahahahah

oooooooooooh..........

i just found out bangkok is like, IN thailand...
i thought they were 2 different countries...

so yeah. that text makes a whole lot more sense now...

yeah im a smartie.
oh well i'll call you tomorrowww!!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ photos of cousin who's still about 12 y/o in my mind posing with bottles of seagrams 7 and barbarossa in each hand.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

I bought a couch!

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

can we get back to faffing around now?
work is for suckers anyway.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

I was despairing after going to three different places that all had gaudy, overpriced couches (nothing under $750 for sure) and user car salesmen dudes. Then I went to this Scandinavian furniture place that I drive by everyday and never really noticed before...stuff was pretty hip (all of a sudden I have couch aesthetics, right?) and way cheaper, so I jumped on it.

The only downside is that I'll be sitting on the floor for 6-7 weeks before it gets here. :(

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

i saw a scandanavian i wouldn't mind lounging on this morning.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 17:37 (nineteen years ago)

I'm rill bored, y'all. No one is visiting the lab today.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 5 October 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

I'm bored, but it's not for lack of work! Just plugging along through the day until I can go to rehearsal and get my ass kicked, and then see someone's band downtown. DEER BEERZ.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

there was a new bartender at my regular place last night, i got carded. it was nice, the shitty weather kept people away. until about 7:00 there were only 5 other patrons in the place. two of them were a couple sitting in the back at a table away from the bar so they almost didn't count. the other 3 were all regulars, two of them being my favorite regulars. i got to smoke and read and drink and make fun of people and get made fun of and occasionally catch a glimpse of the baseball game all while listening to a cd-r of rare punk stuff. it was exactly why i like going to bars.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

You have just described the Monday Night Drinking Club, if you can envision about 12 more people there who are all your friends and also like reading and rare punk CDs.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

I don't have 12 friends who like rare punk cds.

Who wants to see my couch????

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

I DO I DO!!! And what was the store called?

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Let's see it.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 5 October 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

I would also like to see the couch.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/101/261617050_5e94e4322a.jpg?v=0

The place is called Rubin's.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

Nice work! And Jewish, too.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

The couch is Jewish?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

You know, you don't meet a lot of Scandinavian Jews.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

When I type "Rubin" into Google, the first page has links to personal websites for Avi Rubin and Josh Rubin, and another link to a kosher deli.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin's description does sound exactly the same as the Monday Night Drinknig Club I witnessed in NYC.

Surprised it's not Rick Rubin or Jerry Rubin...

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

that's one fantastic looking cou- OH YEAH THAT'S RIGHT, FLICKR IS BLOCKED FOR ME AT WORK!!!


i will run this into the ground soon.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Rick Rubin is also on the first Google page, but he doesn't have an identifiably Jewish first name.

E: You were at Monday Night Drinking Club? Who else was there??

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

I met Laurel and Jon and some non-ILX folks. I brought a few friends who were keeping to themselves and so didn't get to hang out with the Club too much.

Who wants to have "dentist appointment" tomorrow mid-afternoon and see The Departed?

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin's description does sound exactly the same as the Monday Night Drinknig Club I witnessed in NYC.

and yet it was actually a random Wednesday evening at Tuman's Alcohol Abuse Center. all this talk about the MNDC is making me think about flying out there a day early next month when i head back east. i'd been planning on using monday to clean my apt since coming home to a dirty apartment depresses me beyond belief but i'm intrigued by the MNDC.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

Well, some weeks are better than others. But it's a pretty reliably good time.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Approx. 7 hours until I get to watch Lost, which means it's approx. 8 hours until I get to read the Lost thread.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Meanwhile, on the main campus, The Milkmaid has managed to polish off a serving of apricot applesauce with a fork.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Come Anticipate Reading The Lost Thread.

Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

Milkmaid, that takes talent.

It was Oktoberfest in our caf today so I had some kind of roast beef w/ mustard, and applesauce, and potato pancakes. There were also broiled veg but I hate veg.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

i will run this into the ground soon.

And then they'll block ILX too.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan do I get to SLEEP on your new couch 2 morrow?

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

I want an office cafeteria, that sounds great.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

And Kevin will be reduced to typing "ILX is blocked for me at work" into a word document all day.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

and yet it was actually a random Wednesday evening at Tuman's Alcohol Abuse Center.

They don't still call it the Alcohol Abuse Center, do they? We went there a couple years ago with Todd Swiss and found it a little disappointing -- I had read about the old, crazy, divey Tuman's but had never been there, and this place seemed unremarkable.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, I wish, but:

The only downside is that I'll be sitting on the floor for 6-7 weeks before it gets here. :(

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

the old divey tuman's was a hell hole, this place is pretty unremarkable which is why i like it. there's no ulterior motive for going there other than to drink and smoke and talk shit at the bar.

they still have the old front window with the blue "Alcohol Abuse Center" writing on the wall above the booths. i usually don't stay there past 8 because that's when the meatheads start coming in but it was remarkably meathead free last night. i got to listen to both a spirited debate on exit strategy for the current iraq war and the relative merits of the waitresses who work there courtesey of two iron workers. both are regulars and one is salt of the earth while the other is just nuts i think. i think i'm probably the youngest regular there which is kind of weird.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

and once again bar talk kills thread.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

I'm trying to figure out who's going to win the NL Cy Young this year.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

Where's Amanda, I thought she was booooooooooooored...?

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:01 (nineteen years ago)

I am bored.

But now I have someone coming in at 3, so I have to be cautious about starting conversations.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

they're late amanda, probably not coming at all in fact.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

My student last night (old Polish lady) was telling me that she works the night shift at a nursing home and a lot of her patients are young fiffanetics.

Apparently she meant "schizophrenics." She said some of them stay up all night because they love her so much.

Discus.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

She claims that one girl was drugged when she was in high school and is now 29 and does nothing but laugh all the time.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago)

She sounds fun.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Or:

http://tinyrevolution.com/mt-static/images/joker.jpg

?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)

Fiffanrezia does horrible things to a person.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

musta been some good drugs.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

You should organize a benefit.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

That's kind of sweet about how they stay up all night because they love her so much.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, if you're going to give it to a starter, you have to give it to Carpenter, right? No pitcher has more than 16 wins, but there are a ton clustered around 15-16 (they'd never give it to anyone with fewer than 15). Carpenter is second to Oswalt in ERA, but their W-L records are identical and Carpenter is on a playoff team. More strikeouts, too. But I dunno. The minute you start glancing at all of those pitchers with 15+ wins, other names pop out at you. Brandon Webb? Tom Glavine? I mean, the Mets were the only dominant team in the NL this year. Shit, even Zambrano (4th in Ks, 5th in ERA, tied for 1st in wins) looks like a viable candidate.

So then is the solution to give it to a closer like Trevor Hoffman (46 saves, 2.14 ERA) or Billy Wagner (40 saves, 2.24)? It's tough, man.

AL will go to Johann Santana, natch.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:13 (nineteen years ago)

Oswalt's numbers are right there, and he finished strong.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

and W-L is crap for evaluating a pitcher for one year (which is why dumb sportswriters do it).

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

I agree that W-L is crap, but that's how this bitch is determined the vast majority of the time.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

I am NOT talking about baseball on the internet.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

is there a thirsty thursday going on tonight? i don't have the $$$ to participate but it's nice to know one's happening anyway.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

If either Carpenter or Oswalt gets it, it'll be the first time ever that a winner has had under 16 wins who didn't pitch in relief and who didn't play in a strike-shortened season.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Oh I forgot it was Thursday. I tried to arrange a TT with co-workers, but they flaked out. I'm up for it, if anyone else is.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

My dad just left me a voicemail saying he has an extra ticket for Wait Wait Don't Tell Me tonight. Hmmm.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, what do you think of the couch. Give it to me straight, I can take it.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

I can't TT tonight since i have one more class and then to get a wedding present for FIL. yay.

I predict I participate in TT once every 4 months or so. But those times, WATCH OUT CHICAGO!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

I like it! Nice broad arms will be good for balancing a plate/book/tray on, too! Soooo much better than any of the craigslist options that you flashed us.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

Soooooooooooo much better than the nursing home/dorm couch!!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

I am NOT talking about baseball on the internet.

Okay, how does that Wallace chap look at training camp so far?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

so, chicago.... who wants to hit this sometime this weekend?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)

hahahahaha

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

i didn't realize it could be taken the wrong way. actually, at first i thought i sent out the email without a subject or something. there were 5 heartstopping seconds of that.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

What?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

check yr mail.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

I like it! Nice broad arms will be good for balancing a plate/book/tray on, too!

I was reading the thread from bottom to top, and at first I thought you were talking about Otto or something.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

i have the skinniest arms ever. it's like the upper body of a pre-pubescent girl over here.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

i've been wurkin out i have amrz now

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Guns, Jordan. You're supposed to call them guns.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'm gonna take a pass on the Wait Wait tickets. Anyone else wanna go with my dad?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 5 October 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, Otto, pls to stand over here and hold this tray while I watch movie.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

you sound like someone i used to live with...

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

No TT for me. Jesse and Courtney get here Tuesday and that means I have to devote all my spare time this weekend to finishing all my homework for all of next week and half the week after.

HOWEVER next Thursday, Jesse AND Courtney will be in Chicago and I will have no homework to do and I would like to Thursty Thirsday it up big time.

Jordan, I think that couch looks comfortable but sleek, stylish yet masculine, inviting yet not like the kind of couch that sucks out your soul when you sit on it. I believe it was an excellent choice for a young man such as yourself.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

Thank you, Jenny. Really, you are all a part of this couch.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

What kind of couch eats your soul???

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

my couch is a lot like me, not very well put together, doesn't particularly fulfill it's purpose, shabby, needs to be dry cleaned, has had a thousand beers spilled on it, isn't very comfortable to sleep on, and after sitting around for a while you realize "this thing fucking sucks."

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

The Ottoman Empress was a girl who grew up alone; her only friends were furniture, and until she was 13 she was a coffee table. Now, she uses her formidible powers of furniture control to try to conquer the City. Fortunately for everyone (but Die Fledermaus) she is in love with Die Fledermaus and spends all her time and energy pursueing him...

The Ottoman was eventually thwarted by The Tick, who caught her in the World's Most Comfortable Chair.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

What kind of couch eats your soul???

satan's settee, the devil's davenport, beelzebub's barcalounger, etc.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 5 October 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.avrev.com/gifs/americanpsycho/americanpsycho3.gif

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

What kind of couch eats your soul???

The kind where there's a big dip in the couch so that when you sit down you sink too low and can't get up without a huge effort and then you think to yourself, "Is it worth it? Is anything worth it?" and you just sink lower and lower into the cushions, wallowing in your own despair, some popcorn kernels, and $1.68 in change until you can only shut your eyes to make it all go away.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oohhh, I was thinking of some huge Laura Ashley thing with cabbage roses and overstuffed chintz cushions.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.victoriantrading.com/store/catalogimages/13m/13m248.jpg

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.worth1000.com/entries/225000/225242ChJG_w.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.thejackcat.com/AC/Culture/Dereth/Festivus/evilcouch.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

Uh oh... I like that couch, Laurel. I'd better go home and sit amongst my precious moments figurines and teddy bear collection until I feel better.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 5 October 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, please, do try for some perspective among the dizzying array of mis-evolved English garden prints.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

It was funny when I went into a furniture store yesterday and said I was looking for something "minimal". The dude wouldn't really let me get a word in, and was like, "You mean in terms of size? Oh, weight? Oh, price?"

I meant style obv. (it may not have been the clearest adjective but it's all that came to mind).

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 5 October 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, your meaning should have been perfectly clear and that salesman is an idiot.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 5 October 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

If you want, you can come to my party tomorrow night:

www.derekerdman.com

Chicago ILX thread at times comforts me.

derekerdman (Derek Erdmany), Thursday, 5 October 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, it's Erdman! Yeah, we should scare up a couple people and try to come by tomorrow. I'll see what I can put together.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Friday, 6 October 2006 03:41 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago, please visit Hyde Park this month because it is incredibly beautiful. I saw Calvin Johnson & Phil Evrum (Mt. Eerie/The Microphones) play a show in a courtyard surrounded by gothic buildings covered in ivy, with bright yellow trees and a full moon above them. So nice.

Eazy (Eazy), Friday, 6 October 2006 04:44 (nineteen years ago)

derek, how late is that 2 keg rager gonna run? some friends are playing the beat kitchen tonight so i know i'll be there. actually, you married one of those friends. or refereed the ceremony or whatever it is you call it. brain hurts, not working.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

presided over is what i was looking for i think.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 12:02 (nineteen years ago)

Hey I am working from home today!

NEXT Thursday (Oct 12) is FF/Sharx at Gunther Murphy's, so that might be a good TT location. If I could be so humble to suggest it.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 6 October 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, Nick!

These leftover roasted sweet potatoes & apples are even better for breakfast. mmm...

I've seen Calvin Johnson play (in VA) & Phil Evrum (in NYC) and enjoyed both, though Phil more so because Calvin talked for so long. And someone sang some songs with Phil... One of the girls from the Softies? Mirah? I can't remember. Nick?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 6 October 2006 12:21 (nineteen years ago)

you can't remember if nick sang some songs that night?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

I think it was Mirah.

I personally found CJ very irritating live, even though I like some of his music.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 6 October 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha, otto. I thought that the second after I posted.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 6 October 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

Is there a better album for singing in the shower than this one? I THINK NOT.

http://home.comcast.net/~dunhill1966/images/ifexptoilet.jpg

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 6 October 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry -- harmonies killed thread.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Friday, 6 October 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

No, no, I like TMATP! I'm just uber cranky and liable to be an awful conversationalist today.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 6 October 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

I think I learned what little I know about harmonies by singing along with the first Weezer album in the bathtub.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 6 October 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

Nooo! Bbut it's Friday!

I'm uber hyper today, so maybe I should avoid you, Laurel, lest I get a slap. I'm leaving at 3:30 today for Madison.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 6 October 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

I know, Friday should be a lift, right?? Ach it's grey and threatening here and I went to bed cranky last night.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 6 October 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I'll order nice things online for cheer-up. I still need new pillows.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

my gmail availability message since 7:58 this morning "foul goddamn mood today." it's contagious.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

If I had gchat, mine would be "If Mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy."

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

An old friend unexpectedly popped into town last night, so I didn't actually get to really start my cleaning and shopping until 9:00. N&S, it'll be like camping out, k?

The cats are freaked out about there not being any furniture left in the house except for my bed. They all piled in last night: http://static.flickr.com/55/262224671_ff53faaa37_m.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

People are going to visit Jordan!

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Cute pic, Jordan! So, is this person Cam or someone else? Nick and I are bringing blankets/pillows/etc. I wish we had a small tent, just because it would be fun to set one up in your living room.


Ordering things online, eh? I'm wearing a shirt today I ordered online a couple of weeks ago from Bluefly.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

I love TMATP. But I can no longer hear "California Dreamin" without thinking of Chungking Express. This saddens me, because it really ought to make me think of such a winter's day.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

So, is this person Cam or someone else?

No, actually it was Anna, my other really good friend from high school. Since my folks moved right before HS, they're pretty much the two people I go the farthest back with.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

A tent would be awesome. Maybe I'll do that until my couch arrives.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

Do you love your new shirt, Sarah? I ordered something from BF once but it was so incredibly the wrong size when it arrived, I had to return.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah! I was worried about sizing, but heard they have a very lenient return policy, so I risked it. Actually, I was mostly worried about this shirt being long enough. It's shorter than I thought it was, but still acceptable.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Pepper is not helping ... she is resting her head on my hand while I am trying to type.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

Working from home or Bring Yr Cat to Work Day?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

Hiiiiiiii, Ppeppppppppppperrrrcaatttttttttt!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:51 (nineteen years ago)

She is kind of in my way but she looks really comfortable so I don't think I will make her move yet.

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Okay now, who has a wedding a 4 pm on a Sunday? In Florida?? My uncle, that's who.

It's only the second wedding out of those five siblings so it's this big deal, but I have no vacation time, and that time makes it impossible to swing without traveling on Monday. WTF.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, I don't care if they got a cheaper rate on the venue or whatever...they're both in their 50's with good jobs, they should be able to afford a Saturday wedding.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

whoa. do you have any cousins/relatives in chicago jordan?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

Do you mean Florida, otto?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 6 October 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

no, this girl i used to date mentioned that she's going to florida and she said she thought it was weird that it was in middle of the afternoon.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

er, going to florida for a wedding.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

I have a gay great uncle who lives in Chicago, but I haven't seen him for years.

My uncle who's getting married is the only family member in Florida, so everyone has to travel there.

xpost, ah

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

I think I forgot to shampoo this morning -- my hair looks terrible.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, I didn't forget, I just didn't bother.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

I remembered not to shampoo this morning, and my hair looks great.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, but when you have delightfully curly hair as mine you NEED shampoo to liven up those locks, or else it looks flat and stupid. Otto, you with me?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

my hair always looks like ass anyway. when it was windy the other day i came in from smoking a cigarette looking like the bastard offspring of a troll doll and blonde on blonde era bob dylan.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

john, i really can't say. all i know is i need some motherhumpin' conditioner in this bird's nest or else it gets garfunklely.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

I think maybe I used conditioner but not shampoo? Who knows. I'm surprised I can wash myself at all after being awake for only five minutes.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

i've done that, it feels like my hair is oozing 40 weight motor oil.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

so! busy!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I found out that the wedding is on Sunday afternoon/evening because Jews can't get married on the sabbath. Apparently we Jews don't have to work on Mondays either. Whatevs.

I am conflicted about whether I want to spend a few hundred dollars and possibly a day of precious vacation time (which will put me down to 0) just so I don't feel guilty about not going.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

HERE'S AN IDEA: WHAT IF YOU JUST REFUSED TO FEEL GUILTY?!?!

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, look at all the cranky encapsulated in that one sentence. You people are so much nicer than I am.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

That is a great idea. Can you stop my mom from trying to make me feel guilty about it too?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

Unforunately, no. But you can tell her it's no longer open for discussion. Of course that gets into all kinds of subjective family stuff.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:43 (nineteen years ago)

My mom called last night. She sounded very upbeat. She asked if I'd made any plans for Thanksgiving.

Me - Yes! Nick and I are going to friends' J&J's to have a non-turkey Thanksgiving...

Mom - Oh.

Me - Um, why?

Mom - I was hoping to come visit you but I guess that's not going to happen. I'll just have to come up with a different plan.

Me - * silence *

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, I'm sure your relatives would understand and other people won't be able to make the trip either for various reasons.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think they would understand, and would probably hold a silent grudge for years, but that's par for the course with that side of the family.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah! Tell her she can come to the non-turkey festivities like everyone else! If she doesn't want to do that, she can make other plans, just like she said!

Jordan: ARARRUUGHH! Family, eh? Lots of people didn't come to my sister's wedding because they couldn't afford the airfare + hotels. No big.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

And when I say "lots of people," I mean, like, aunts & uncles who we grew up with, not second cousins twice removed.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 6 October 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

I know I should have said something like that, Laurel. I was just thinking Bbbut I'll see her at Christmas...

Jenny, is my mom invited? If not, that's cool. Just let me know.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 6 October 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I know. Mothers are like that, they know how to get you right OOF there.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 6 October 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Chicago! DCilxor here. I will be visiting Your Fair City the second weekend of November, mostly for work, but perhaps also for FAPing? I know DCPete had a good time seeing ya'll when he visited a while back.

So, uh, I take back anything I said in that brief DC-Chicago Thread War episode. You are all lovely people in a lovely city, I am sure.

quincie (quincie), Friday, 6 October 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

the city is ok anyway.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

First round on me!

quincie (quincie), Friday, 6 October 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

i think i'll be back in town by the weekend.
oh, and if anyone tries to get you to try something called Mallort? hit them in the face with a chair and run away.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 16:35 (nineteen years ago)

haha

No, seriously. Do.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Friday, 6 October 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

Hi quincie. Yeah, I'd be up for a FAP. Will you be flying solo or will you be accompanied by Mr. Que?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 October 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Chicago

I love that couch. I hope it comes with a nail gun.

Michigan is chilly. It's nice.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 6 October 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

Will you be flying solo or will you be accompanied by Mr. Que?

Solo this time around, but both of us may also make a Chicago appearance around new year's!

quincie (quincie), Friday, 6 October 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

I miss the DC-Chicago flame war. It helped the economy.

I wish I were feeling clever enough to do it again.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 6 October 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

Here's a totally random bit of utterly useless information: October is Peanut Butter Lovers Month. Holla!

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Friday, 6 October 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

I would like to be in Michigan! Mmm fall.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 6 October 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

i would like to be in new england. mmmmm autumn!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

More random information: I always thought that a "snipe hunt" was so called because there's no such thing as a snipe. Actually, snipe are real birds that are notoriously difficult to shoot because of their erratic flying patterns and camoflauge. A hunter who could bag many snipe was known as a "sniper," which is where the modern usage of the word comes from.

Eatin' potato chips. Readin' wikipedia. Good times.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Friday, 6 October 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

wikipedia + stream of consciouness = no work ever getting done.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 17:34 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a hoot at parties, as you can imagine.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Friday, 6 October 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

you know what song, or part of a song actually, has been stuck in my head all day? imagine doug martsch's nasal twittering of a voice singing "iiiiiinnnnnnnn america, every puddle, gasoline rainbows". just that one line over and over and over.

that's what's been stuck in my head all day.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Dunno it. I've had a Subway Sect chorus stuck in mine.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 6 October 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

oooh! chicago!!! tomorrow at the abbey opening for detroit cobras is king khan/bbq!!! DO NOT MISS THEM. go see and thank me later. you may even see me dancing if i'm not too sloppy.

dear god a kk/bbq show is EXACTLY what i need right now.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'm listening to music so I don't have to think about other songs. Right now, it's LET'S DANCE!

This guy in the office next to ours (we lease to them) just asked what I was up to this weekend. When I mentioned Minneapolis, he said he lived there for 8 years and hated it because it's chock full of WASPS and is nothing but white bread.

I think I'll whip up a seedy underbelly during my visit.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 6 October 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

it's chock full of WASPS and is nothing but white bread.

chief amongst them, PRINCE ROGERS NELSON.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, and all those black, Somali, and Hmong people.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

Right now, it's the FINAL COUNTDOWN for me! (15 minutes)

See you in a few hours, Jordan.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

I just did the most indulgent thing! I made an appointment for a manicure & pedicure! I haven't had either, ever!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

Cool, Sarah, give me a call when you guys get into town if you like, otherwise I'll just see you at the Union.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Ooooooh, Kels. I could take or leave manis but pedicures are pretty wonderful.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pretty excited!!! Next up: I treat myself to a massage!!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

I'm pretty excited!!! Next up: I treat myself to a massage!!

sometimes when i get pretty excited i treat myself to a massage too.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Ha.

I definitely got over my massage hangups (i.e. thinking massages are too self-indulgent and unnecessary). I could go for one about now.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

once i formally commit myself to an exercise program, i'll treat myself to a massage. i could go for one just about any day, but i feel compelled to "earn" it. a mani/pedi, on the other hand . . . well, that's for 'work'. really! the manicure is, anyway.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

god, i can't wait to get on the train and SLEEP!!! feels like the kind of sleep where i sleep through the alarm so i may miss my friends tonight. on the plus side i think there are 4 bands at the beat kitchen so that'll give me plenty of time to wake up.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hello again everyone. I said I was coming home Thursday but... I am still in Alaska. It's too much fun, really. Extending my ticket was only $50, and I've never done anything like that on a trip before, so here I am. Kind of indulgent, right?

As a result of staying last night I bought over a pound of fresh scallops for like $18, and they were unfuckingbelievable. I don't have any way to post pics right now unfortch.

The only downside: I land in Chi at ~8 AM Monday. And I pretty much have to go to work. Has anyone ever taken OTC sleeping pills?

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

Also, it's 1 in the afternoon here. I think I am used to the time difference now. This does not bode well for my waking state upon my return.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

Has anyone ever taken OTC sleeping pills?

pop a couple benadryl, they knock me the fuck out.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

I know a couple of people who have taken tylenol p.m. with some success. make sure to take it more than 8 hours before you have to wake up, though . . .

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

i am jealous, by the way! i would love to see alaska!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

active ingredient in tylenol pm is diphenhydramine, same active ingredient in benadryl. get which ever is cheaper. washing it down with boone's farm probably wouldn't hurt.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Sleeping on the plane is hard, but it's a fucking 6+ hour flight from Anchorage. It may be easier on the way back if the old gay man hitting on me and the fat woman rubbing her arm and side gut fat on me over the armrest aren't on board, though. I thought I was going to die on the way up.

xpost: Everyone should come here! Well, maybe not everyone. I could see some people not enjoying it. Particularly if you like being 100% dry most of the time. But otherwise, it's fucking amazing! I will have more pics up soon.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

FINALLY, my new officemate left so that I can slack off for the last hour of the week.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan you should come here for the seafood alone. I had the best sushi of my life on Wednesday eve.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. I do not hate seafood. I really don't.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

did we ever settle the matter of anybody wanting to hit this this weekend?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan: Lover of sandwiches, pizza, & seafood. Minus the seafood, you being a lover of sandwiches & pizza was one of the descriptors i gave leaf the night of your show!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

I have no issue with that whatsoever.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Leaf seems like a cool dude, btw.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Seafood consumed on my trip thus far:

prawns
halibut (Homer = Halibut fishing capital of teh WORLD)
scallops
salmon of probably 3 different varieties, smoked and not
black cod
eel
tuna

All (except for maybe the eel?) locally caught AFAIK.

Also I am bringing back a plethora of smoked fish, probably mostly silver salmon and black cod. Finally, I saw the Time Bandit of Deadliest Catch fame in port the other day! Probably no-one is as excited about this as I am.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

As do you, btw!

For what it's worth, Leaf tends to be quiet & shy until you get to know him. Sometimes I worry that he comes off to people as an angry motorcylist or something.

I love halibut & tuna. I've never had black cod & I can't quite come around to salmon . . . is this normal? Everyone I know loves salmon!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

Leaf reminds me of (T0m) Leith, an ex-Digd0wn brother who is also in law school now. I think I have mentioned this before.

I have to admit, I don't like smoked salmon very much. I am a bad Jew.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

an angry motorcylist

hahaha!

I can't quite come around to salmon . . . is this normal?

I'm pretty sure Kr isn't the biggest salmon fan. I was more into the salmon that was served at the Labor Day party Dan invited us to. Of course, it was coated in walnuts and brown sugar or whatever.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, *I* was more into the salmon than *she* was.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

What should I do tonight?

Kr recommended:

a) dinner at an Indian or Ethiopian restaurant
b) Green Mill

...but isn't married to either of those ideas.

I also thought a movie might be a good plan, since I wouldn't mind seeing Science of Sleep, The Departed, or Forest Whitaker Yells His Way Toward an Oscar.

I feel indecisive.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

are you making plans for the two of you or just you?

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

Leaf & I are assembling Ikea furniture this evening. I suggested to him that we get a bottle of wine to go with it . . . not to add anything that might aid in the premature destruction of crap furniture, but I thought it might make it more fun.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Ooooh Science of Sleep looked good.

One more thing and then I'm gone: I AM PISSED I MISSED LOST. STUPID ALASKANS AND THEIR NON-TV-HAVING WAYS. (or, I forgot)

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

The two of us. I think we're looking to do something relatively cheap and low-key and so are avoiding late nights at rowdy bars.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

for kicks we may call t-mobile & change our phone plans to a Family Plan . . . can you feel the excitement?!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Dan -- in case you missed it upthread, you can watch Lost on the ABC.com website! That's what I did.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Gr33n M1ll.

I think I'll propose to Nick & Sarah that we skip the gig and go see The Departed instead.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

ethiopian food is so conducive to talking & intimacy. I'd say, eat ethiopian food maybe rent a movie, but make sure the night ends in tender lovemaking.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

The one Ethiopian place in town is silverware-free. Is that always the case?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

Yes.

tender lovemaking

Does it have to be tender? I was thinking something more raw and animalistic, but you've got me second-guessing myself.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

whatever floats yer boat, man!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I'm going home now.

Have a good lovemaking weekend, Chicago!

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think we have any Netflix DVDs coming until tomorrow. :(

Bye Jordan!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

bye jordan!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

john: you might have to rent one from the (gasp!) store!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

sorry, i'm not trying to be a dick.

l & I are working our way thru freaks & geeks.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago)

That's one of the DVDs I have coming tomorrow, actually: Disc 3. I think the show is great. Everyone is so well-cast.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

oh! but last night we watched 'the notorious bettie page' & WOW was that ever disappointing!

ha! we are on disc three tonight!!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, can you imagine anyone else playing Neil?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

well, um, maybe you . . .

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:48 (nineteen years ago)

???

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

dude! i just felt like i could see Young Johnny C being a little bit like that . . . maybe it was b/c i watched samm levine's audition tape & he just did impressions?

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

maybe it was b/c i watched samm levine's audition tape & he just did impressions?

Holy shit, is this on one of the DVDs?

Yeah, heh, I know what you mean. I won my 4th-grade talent show by doing impressions of Joan Rivers, Ronald Reagan, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Julia Child.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

Tylenol PM/Advil PM/Benedryl are the best OTC sleepy pills evar. I have taken one Advil PM for about six hours of sleep and been just fine.

I don't know how much dyphenhydraminiasd is in Benedryl, but there is almost twice as much in Advil PM as there is in Tylenol PM so... yeah. Take a couple as soon as you get to the gate and enjoy your inflight snoozeroo.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

disc two, my brotha.

SEE WHAT I MEAN?!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

it was in his audition that i thought to myself, "i would bet john was like this as a lad."

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

disc two, my brotha.

Aw shit, I didn't even realize there were bonus features. Already returned.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 October 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

i'm out of here . . . have a great weekend & evening! maybe we'll chat soon . . .

bye!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Friday, 6 October 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

Bye!

I don't suppose anyone's been to the new Blue Nile Ethiopian Restaurant on Ridge, huh?

Yeah, no one's here, anyway.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 6 October 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

My blood beats black tonight.

I want Ethiopian food again. We went to adidas adidas shortly after we moved to Chicago. It wasn't that good.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 6 October 2006 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

I recommend the "Run DMC." I always thought the laces were too chewy, anyway.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Friday, 6 October 2006 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

*groan*

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Friday, 6 October 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)

1 - OTC sleeping pills work like a charm, BUT they leave me groggy forever. Also, Benadryl is cheaper and the same shit.

2 - My plane ride from Chicago to Saginaw (only 1 hour!) would have been OK but I had a little argument with some cunt who took my seat (very first row, window, which I specifically chose when I checked in). He said, "Oh, I guess I sat in the wrong seat. You can have mine" (a few rows back, and not as good a seat). I was ultra-crabby so I said, "Thanks, but I'll take the seat that I chose."

"I'd rather not have to get up and move," he said, "But if it's really that big a deal to you...." then he heaved a sigh, but did not get up.

I was ultra-crabby so I showed my ass and got a little loud and nasty with him, saying "It looks like you'd like to MAKE this into a big deal! I don't think you ACCIDENTALLY sat in 1-D instead of 5-D."

He moved and I was embarrassed and I felt like an asshole the rest of the plane ride. The woman next to me gave nasty looks.

3 - What's on the agenda for Courtney's and my visit? Make an agenda.

4 - I'm thinking I may very well have to buy a car. This sucks a lot, but I will be coming back to MI a LOT more because my dad's not doing well at all. I was thinking about getting an

http://images.google.com/url?q=http://www.wxdu.org/~jason/cars/mazda1.jpg&sig=__-arxCFU7WSvxqWRnYFjmYe9nZxc=

(older pickup truck). Good mileage, affordable, cheap insurance, handy, and I would be everyone's friend.

5 - DAN: The latest episode of Lost is on ABC's website, in its entirety. This is the case each week. And also the case for 8 other shows.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 7 October 2006 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

Also, look here at these pics from NC.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Plant-Fire-Evacuation.html?_r=2&th&emc=th&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 7 October 2006 01:37 (nineteen years ago)

He moved and I was embarrassed and I felt like an asshole the rest of the plane ride.

This is the only part of this story that I do not believe. You may have felt a little like an asshole, but only because confrontation was necessary. The part of you that is smart knows that it was your fucking seat, and the part of you that is Jesse hates confrontation, but you KNOW you're right! You knew it then! Why qualify it to us?

Jesse, you're a bad-ass, and someday you're going to have to deal with that fact.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Saturday, 7 October 2006 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

You should see him when someone steals Jenny's chair.

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 7 October 2006 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

We went to adidas adidas shortly after we moved to Chicago. It wasn't that good.

You mean Addis Abeba, and no it wasn't that good. I think it's closed now. I wouldn't recommend Blue Nile, either, although it was nice to support an out-of-the-way storefront that doesn't look like it does much business. Best place in the city is still Ras Dashen.

jaymc (jaymc), Saturday, 7 October 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

Is it just me or do all the "authorities" in that chemical plant fire article seem inappropriately non-chalant about the whole thing?

Worried officials urged more than 17,000 people to leave their homes, but were unsure how many complied.

...because they didn't really care, stating "Oh, that's why we put the plant in Apex in the first place."

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 7 October 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

You should see him when someone steals Jenny's chair.

Hmmm. I think you've got that a little backwards. I did have a flash of channeling Jenny.

You know what I miss most about NC and MI? The Eastern Time Zone. It's A Comforting Time Zone in a way I Can't Explain. Know what I mean?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 7 October 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny agrees but is too shy to state this publicly.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 7 October 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

You mean Addis Abeba,

No, I meant Adidas Adidas. I was saying the name of a shoe company twice instead of the name of an Ethiopian place on Clark just for fun. Cracked me up.

Hmmm. I think you've got that a little backwards.

If I recall correctly, you seemed to be yelling quiet a bit at the meatneck after I pulled Jenny away.

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 7 October 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff ate at an Adidas store.

I feel like I'm explaining Marmaduke.

The thing is, the guy stole my chair and Jenny yelled at him, then you pulled her away and I got started. Then Jenny and the guy got friendly and I was still mad and looked like an asshole.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 7 October 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

You did not! And I wasn't "getting friendly" with him. I was gaining his trust so that I could ambush him later. I just forgot about the second part.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 7 October 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

You did that just as I was getting into the fighting part. So I was just working up a lather and you were all buddy-buddy with him.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 7 October 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Then John C. and I left and went to Natty Greene's. This was when we all lived in Greensboro.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 7 October 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Nick and Sarah left a little while ago, and now I'm bootlegging their album for my friend Cam.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 7 October 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

Oh my god. So today was Sample's day at the vet. I gave her a kitty Valium sleepy pill two hours prior to her appointment as instructed because even though Sample is probably the friendliest cat of them all, she's also a murderous bitch cat at the vet. So we got there and she was pretty chill in the waiting room despite the presence of a million little hyperactive Andersonville sweater dogs so I thought she'd be fine. Well. They took her in the back and said they still couldn't handle her so they shot her up with a narcotic - little kitty morphine. 20 minutes later and they still couldn't handle her so they put her in the gas box to completely anesthetize her! When she was all the way asleep, they could finally give her shots, take a blood sample (she's old and so needs a full blood and urine work up), look at her teeth and clip her nails, two procedures which no vet has been able to accomplish for five years.

Now we're home and she refuses to lie down and sleep it off and is instead wobbling around the apartment, trying to jump on furniture and missing while Ed hides under the table and growls.

As the vet was telling me what all she had to do to the cat, she looks at her card and says, "I'm just going to highlight right here where it says '****CARE!!!!****' for the next doctor who looks at her."

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Saturday, 7 October 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Shitty Alaskan Jam Band Almost Killed Me.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Saturday, 7 October 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

OK not really. In reality, I wanted to kill them, but I couldn't. What almost killed me was the HomerBrew.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Saturday, 7 October 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago)

Cats be crazy.

Jeff. (Jeff), Saturday, 7 October 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

I saw Jaymc and Kr. at TJs!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Saturday, 7 October 2006 22:51 (nineteen years ago)

Sooo, anyone have tricks for removing plastic that's melted on/in a stovetop burner?

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 8 October 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago)

(cause what I tried was a Bad Idea)

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 8 October 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

I've had plastic on a burner! What I did was let it cool and chip it off, then whatever was left I burned off.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 8 October 2006 16:25 (nineteen years ago)

You could try to freeze it and chip it?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 8 October 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

I tried burning it off. It worked except for the horrible smell and the alarms.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 8 October 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

I just bought a tv but there's no one around to help bring it up from the car. Should I ask the girl next door? Is it okay to ask girls to help move heavy things?

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 8 October 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Yes. If she's human and has arms, she can help you.

I revived the beet thread on ILC for Sarah and anyone else interested in beets. I would link, but guess what! I don't remember how.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 8 October 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

The (hot) neighbor girl helped move my tv, then went back to watching football. I bet she could do a much better job of putting together this tv stand than I'm currently doing too.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 8 October 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)

My tv stand is a laughing stock, but I'm done. Oh lord let me never be a carpenter.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 8 October 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

How did you wind up with plastic on your burner?

Did you ask out the hot neighbor girl? (Suggestion for a pickup line: "Thanks for your help with the TV. I've got another big load you could help me out with, dollface.")

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 8 October 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

Haha. No, but I wanted to.

Plastic: I was making breakfast for Nick & Sarah yesterday and juggling a couple of things and I accidentally turned on the wrong burner. The burner that the plastic bowl of batter was on.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 8 October 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

You should invite the Hot Neighbor over for Monday Night Football-and-a-beer as a gesture of thanks.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 8 October 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

Or not. Maybe that's crepey. I dunno.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 8 October 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

That's a great idea. Except I know as much about football as Jaymc does about Houses of the Holy.

xpost

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 8 October 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

I was afraid of that. Well, there's always the "I just made lasaga and I can't eat the whole pan by myself" trick.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 8 October 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

(even if you CAN eat the whole pan by yourself)

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 8 October 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

I mean LASAGNA. Why am I even inside today? It's beautiful out there.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 8 October 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Or not. Maybe that's crepey

Is that an ILX-ism? I just now was on another thread where someone said, "Bug off, crepe."

Jordan-- why are you watching football if you know absolutely nothing about it?

C ON HER T.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 8 October 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

Oh. Wait. Cuz of the Saints?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Sunday, 8 October 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

Is that an ILX-ism? I just now was on another thread where someone said, "Bug off, crepe."

I think it started with noize dudes calling Kenan a crepe. :>

Jordan-- why are you watching football if you know absolutely nothing about it?

I'm not! But Amanda suggested it.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 8 October 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago)

(even if you CAN eat the whole pan by yourself)

Yeah that would be quite the lie for me. "Uh, I made this pizza, and I can't eat the whole thing, and I don't like leftover pizza, you want some?"

I rented Infernal Affairs tonight on Nick's recc.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 8 October 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

BLOG POST NOTICE:

I've posted "Since You've Been Gone". The other one that we discussed earlier. That's all. Goodnight!

(I have to pick up D at the Amtrak station.)

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Sunday, 8 October 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)

DIO

That song is kinda awesome. I think those are real handclaps.

Jordan (Jordan), Sunday, 8 October 2006 23:57 (nineteen years ago)

If you want to attract the girl into your lair/arms in the first place, I suggest you T on C. The C on T comes later.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 9 October 2006 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

T on her C?

Tap on her Cunt?

Tickle on her Clavicle?

Tinkle on her Cousin? Trample on her Clavicle?

xpost-- I misread your post and thought you said that after the girl helped you with your tv, that YOU went back to watching football. I'll try to pay closer attention in the future.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 9 October 2006 01:10 (nineteen years ago)

My mom and I have been eating a lot of hash browns and I've been working on trying to make the perfect EggWave egg. The parents bought a super strong microwave and 4 or 5 seconds can make or break a nice egg.

Mummsy's semi-unintentional humor: She was complaining because I bought her some Glad storage containers (she usually just uses glass bowls covered in Seran Wrap), for which she said she didn't have room. I pointed out large unoccupied spaced in a cabinet.

"No," she said, her mind made up that these containers had no place in her life, "we have mice." (Read with a fairly strong Spanish accent. For some reason she was speaking English.)

"What does that matter? You have dishes down there now. The mice aren't going to eat the containers.

"No. These mice eat containers. We have crazy mice."

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 9 October 2006 01:26 (nineteen years ago)

Another funny:

I asked my mom, "How many eggs do you eat for breakfast?"

I thought she was speaking Spanish and responding "Tu?" (As in, "You?" as in "Are you asking me how many eggs YOU eat?")

"No, YOU," I said.

"TWO!" she said, "Me como DOS huevos."

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 9 October 2006 01:42 (nineteen years ago)

lol @ crazy mice

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 October 2006 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

me: i'm hanging out with her later this week
jesse: horrah
wait
hoorah
me: horah?
jesse: no
horray
dammmmmit.l]]
yay
ok
yah.
me: i thought you were making another jewish joke
you know "dance the horah"
jesse: seriosly cannot type
no
just can't type lying down
me: that would have been funny
jesse: well let's pretend it was

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 October 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

Hey. That's a conversation I was just having.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 9 October 2006 02:58 (nineteen years ago)

me: are you pretending?
I AM

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 9 October 2006 02:59 (nineteen years ago)

Don't P in her T.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 9 October 2006 03:00 (nineteen years ago)

Pray in her Temple? Poop in her Towel? (reminds me of a David Sedaris story)

Pontificate in her Teepee.

Pantomime in her Town square.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 9 October 2006 03:04 (nineteen years ago)

No! Don't pee in her tea.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 9 October 2006 03:20 (nineteen years ago)

A friend of mine did date a guy who shat on a plate and threw it out the window. I don't actually remember his real name, because S.O.A.P. is a much better acronym. It's like MI5, but with poop.
If I were hot neighbor girl, I would appreciate beer & pizza. Because if you turn that down there's just no future.
I love crazy mice. My cat Freddie newest trick, though, is delegging crickets and then watching them twitch. Sicko.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 9 October 2006 04:09 (nineteen years ago)

T = tongue and you can deduce the rest.

I AM EXHAUSTED.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 9 October 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

Tongue her calliope?

SHAT ON A PLATE? During the date?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 9 October 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

I do not like to shit on a plate.
I do not like it a date.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 9 October 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/seinfeld/video/mulva.jpg

"Mulva?"

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

So how was everyone's weekend? Mine was quiet and full of cooking.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

Pretty good. The show on Friday was kind of chaotic and cold but it was fun after we started playing. The FF's sounded great.

Saturday I hung out with my friend Cam, saw the Departed and went to Ian's again, then stayed home and worked on music stuff. Sunday I did apartment stuff and watched movies.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 October 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

i made homemade graham crackers, did a butt load of laundry, assembled 3 different furnitures, & had brunch with nick & sarah!

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

Homemade graham crackers? How do you make such a thing?

Art show on Saturday night at Ice Factory was fun, but we called it an early night, and then yesterday made banana pancakes for breakfast, cleaned up around the apartment, read the Sunday Trib, started a blog post, went to the Junior Boys show at the Empty Bottle, and made an ill-advised trip to Dunkin Donuts at 1 AM.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

Oh also I made a caprese sandwich! With fresh mozzarella and vine-ripened tomatoes and olive oil and salt and pepper, on this delicious multi-grain sourdough bread from Trader Joe's.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

i convinced my roommate to make awesome awesome spinach dip stuff which now has a recipe posted to the blog. also, watching lots of carnivale. i love that show.

Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'd forgotten how good it is. Dirt and death and spooky powers, Oh my!

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Homework, errands, apartment cleaning, and a wee bit of lounging around.

I, too, am interested in how one makes graham crackers at home.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

I remember reading about graham flour and being very interested in making graham crackers. Go Kelsey! Where does one find graham flour?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

With fresh mozzarella and vine-ripened tomatoes and olive oil and salt and pepper, on this delicious multi-grain sourdough bread from Trader Joe's.

AND FRESH BASIL, I FORGOT ABOUT THE FRESH BASIL.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

I am back in Chicago and very tired.

xpost: YOU GOTTA HAVE DAT FOR SURE

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

*yawn* what's for breakfasat?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 9 October 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

Here's something I learned from the Joy of Cooking:

Graham flour is whole wheat flour! Isn't that amazing?

Anyway, graham crackers are easy peasy . . . I just didn't quite roll them out thin enough to be truly cracker-like. They are actually a lot like making a crust but with much less butter. The recipe I used required one egg, lots of ww flour, baking soda, some sugar, some honey, a touch of water. you then roll them out flat (i did it inbetween parchment paper) & then bake them for a short amount of time. I actually forgot to add the honey to the dough, so leaf & i just poured honey on top, sprinkled them with cinnamon & drank it down w/ a glass o' soy milk. i think i'll make them again, but i want to find a recipe that uses molasses in it.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Monday, 9 October 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

Regular whole-wheat flour, huh? Well, I'll be shackled and beaten with straw. I wonder if Kr will want to try to make it. She loves anything that's whole wheat.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 October 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

But what about Sylvester Graham and his special process? Wikipedia says it's slightly different from regular whole wheat flour:

Graham flour is a type of whole wheat flour named after Presbyterian minister Rev. Sylvester Graham, an early advocate for dietary reform. According to the "Larousse Gastronomique", Graham despised processed white flour and believed that bran was the cure-all to the bad eating habits of his compatriots.

Rather than simply grinding the whole grain (bran, germ, and endosperm) wheat kernel, the components are ground separately. The endosperm is ground finely, initially creating white flour. The bran and germ are ground coarsely. The two parts are then mixed back together, creating a coarse-textured flour that bakes and keeps well. Graham flour is used to make graham crackers and pie crusts, among other things.

Graham flour is not available in all countries. A fully correct substitute would be to mix the appropriate amounts of white flour, wheat bran, and wheat germ. Plain whole wheat flour can also be used as a substitute, but the texture would be different from graham flour.

I am so glad people don't have to make their own flour anymore. Hooray for industrialization.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 9 October 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

Grindy grindy grind.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 9 October 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Not that I doubt the JoC, because I don't. It gave me the most delicious pumpkin bread ever yesterday and you won't pry that book out of my dead hands.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 9 October 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

The word "flour" looks weird.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 October 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Do you cooking-types think I can use a sugar pumpkin like I would, say, a buttercup squash? Meaning, just because it's a pumpkin, does that mean I have to make pie? Or can I just take that sucker back to its squash origins in the kitchen?

I want to cut it in half, stuff it with apple cornbread sausage stuffing, and bake it.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 9 October 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

I hear smaller pumpkins are the more edible type. But you have far more experience with gourds than I do!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 9 October 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know what a sugar pumpkin but you sure as hell don't have to make pie. I think there's an I Love Cooking pumpkin thread, wanna look??

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 9 October 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Sugar pumpkins are the cute little ones that are proper for baking pie, should you lose your mind completely and decide to use fresh pumpkin in a pie rather than just opening a can. I guess I've just never had pure, unadulterated freshly baked pumpkin so I don't know if it's sufficiently tasty or not.

xpost - a pumpkin thread! Ingenious.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 9 October 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

I think that should Leaf & I ever have a house-warming party, I'm going to make homemade marshmallows for it. I don't know why that appeals to me so much.

since we're all cook talk today . . . i need some healthy, easy, quick, veggie-heavy dinners. any ideas?

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Monday, 9 October 2006 17:38 (nineteen years ago)

Pumpkin Pumpkin

Oh man, homemade marshmallows! I don't even particularly like marshmallows but there's a place called City Bakery in NYC that's famous for their incredibly rich hot cocoa and they use homemade marshmallows cut into big brownie-like squares (or at least they used to). OMG

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 9 October 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Question put to the pumpkin eaters. Thanks, Laurel!

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 9 October 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, speaking of Thirsty Thursday, Jesse and Courtney and I will be at Old Timer's at happy hour time, thence to the FF show at whatever time and place that is.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 9 October 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

That's as far as we've gotten in developing an itinerary. Tomorrow, there will be some sort of dinner and beers at a location TBA.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 9 October 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

I think I'm going out with work friends for Thirsty Thursday. I would merge the two groups, but then my world would EXPLODE.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

Tomorrow, however, is doable. I was going to go see The Departed after work but may skip it. Or I could just join whomever later.

JESSE OWES ME $$$.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Hello?

I am SK who is in ur writing lab. I am so sorry for absence on last
Thursday.
On thuesday, my english class went a picnic to greenhouse. It was my
bad not to consider about that. Now I am caotic little. I apologize
about that.
And I ask I can go on tuesday 11:30 for my journal fixing.

Have a nice day


XX

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Hehe. I feel sort of bad for posting that, but I did it because it's cute. I've noticed that ESL students really take to "my bad."

The Milkmaid is in ur writing lab, teachin ur students (The Milkmaid), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

that's adorable.

I want to cut it in half, stuff it with apple cornbread sausage stuffing, and bake it.

DO IT.

Juulia (julesbdules), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

Apparently Glenlivet just opened up a miniature golf course/whiskey bar called Glenlivet City Links next door in my building, for 10 days only. I don't understand.

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, I could never say "no" to that note. Your students could walk all over me!

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

I AM IN MICHIGAN.

-JESSE

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

dear stupid chicago and others

HOW CAN I RENT CARS VERY VERY CHEAPLY???? I NEED TO RENT A CAR ABOUT 6 DAYS A MONTH AND I NEED IT TO BE CHEEEEEAPPPPP SINCE I NEED TO DO THIS REGULARLY AND I WILL NEED TO PURCHASE THEIR INSURANCE WHICH RUNS ABOUT 10/DAY.

HELP
ME
OUT.

JESSE

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

dear chicago

My mother is roasting a leg of lamg. But it has ribs. Is this odd?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

--Fucking Jiffy Lube

--Last night I made tilapia and, uh, mushrooms, with lots of cumin, for dinner

--Jesse, sorry I disappeared off g-chat last night, my computer overheated and shut itself down, and when it gets like that there's no reasoning with it

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

it's no surprise your computer was getting overheated considering our conversation-- hubba-hubba.

Jordan: I'm P on your BB
Me: Ch on my NS
Jordan: DP my FH
Me: OK

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

That was dumb. Sorry.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 9 October 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

haha

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 October 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

jesse . . . what about zip car or something like that? i-go?

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Monday, 9 October 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

I would like for someone to please rhyme "I-Go" with "Schiavo" in a sensible fashion. GO.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 9 October 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

It's not possible, is it.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 9 October 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

Fear you, you are the thread-killer.

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 9 October 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

I've done it several times today. I'm not proud.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 9 October 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

i leave mc's in the dust like i got i-go/they ain't sayin' shit like terri schiavo

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 October 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

New verse to Kanye's "Through the Wire," maybe?

Got fucked up when my car crashed into an i-Go
In the hospital fell unconscious like Terry Schiavo

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 9 October 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

This weekend, I... (in chronological order)

Saw a parade
Played Boggle (and lost!)
Got one of the NY Kids to come and hang out in MY neighborhood (and play Boggle)
Got included in a wonderfullly weird surprise phone call to neighborhood bar by someone I hadn't heard from in many months
Packed and traveled to a beautiful part of Manhattan
Danced until I could fall over
Drank wine

Laurel (Laurel), Monday, 9 October 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

Well done. All of you.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Monday, 9 October 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

I saw a bit of Rachael Ray's show. There was an Italian red sauce cookoff between Johnny Sack and Bobby Bacala.

This weekend I: met Julia for the first time, along with Jenny and Amanda (Fri. afternoon); saw 'The Departed' (Fri. afternoon); had crepes and vino with the housemates (Friday eve.); reviewed a sketch-comedy show featuring one of Jenny's friends from N.C. (she was very funny - she did a hip-hop number about how to wear a sari); bought cider at the farmer's market; washed hands with fancy salts at Sabon; unwound; watched the Sucka Free Countdown on the treadmill [warning: another 'close personal connection' ahead], saw a video by The Game, directed by the guy who lived next door to me in college senior year; bought new sheets and new clock radio and saw all sorts of things at Linens 'n' Things that were clearly vibrators but being sold as 'pocket massagers' (with the tag line 'Pleasant!'); met up wtih a friend from MN way back when who was passing through town and took the brown line to Millenium Park, walked around the Cultural Center, ate at the Japanese place across the street from the Hopleaf (ordered the menu item that invited the diner to dare to test the chef's knife skills, or something like that); saw the Neo-Futurists 30-play-in-60-mins (very good); then home; helped friend get a cab to O'Hare at 4 a.m.

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 9 October 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

the guy who lived next door to me in college senior year

Eazy (Eazy), Monday, 9 October 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

Are you totally exhausted now or what?

I'm glad you liked SJ's show!

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Monday, 9 October 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

i've got beer, cigarettes, grilled cheese and my book in front of me. and my laptop on my lap. i should just move into the bar at this point.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Monday, 9 October 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

iGo and ZipCar are WAY expensive when you do them longer term (over 10 hours). GUEY esspenseev, guey. The best I can do is reserve through Hotwire well in advance. Or I bid on Priceline, which I am loathe to do because of having been burned by them in December. Fuckers.

You know what I wish? I wish my work had a server powerful enough to be able to run a spam filter. The filter was using too much juice and now 3/4 or my mail is trashola. Sure the email doesn't crash every single day, but at what cost?

That sums up my wish.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Monday, 9 October 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

Many more AK pics uploaded if yer interested: http://www.flickr.com/photos/54797445@N00/tags/alaska/

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Monday, 9 October 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

If you ever get a chance to have Jordan make you breakfast, take it. Sour cream waffles and cheddar, feta and basil omelettes.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 9 October 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

Tell this to single girls, pls.

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 9 October 2006 21:53 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, make me breakfast. I'll be there in 5 hours.
So My friends and I have been getting together for horror movie nights with lots of cheese factor, and we made a mistake. It was called "Silent Hill". Then I had a three hour conversation with a friend all about how none of us actually like his girlfriend and how we hope to God that they never get married. It was a little awkward. But necessary. I cured that awkwardness with mulled cider and cookies.

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Monday, 9 October 2006 23:44 (nineteen years ago)

Wow. That sounds like an intervention.

I just watched 'The Baxter'. It was not good, even though I like all of those dudes. I rented 'Brick' too.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

It was an intervention, I suppose. I really want to watch "The Best of Youth". Has anyone here seen this?

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 00:21 (nineteen years ago)

No. The Baxter was not so good, and yes, I liked those dudes, and I believe Wet Hot American Summer represents the pinnacle of comedy.

1. Apparently the village my parents live near has a serious Oxycontin/Vicodin problem. Would that I had known this before so that I could helped ease the burden that town bears by taking relieving them of some of the substance that plagues them! What does one do? Just go to a local "Pizza Pub" and look for a redneck guy in the wheelchair?

1.1 I had heard that there was a 'drug problem' before but I always figured it was crystal meth.

2. There are a lot of Confederate flags around here.

2.1 That's really dumb.

2.5 I saw a Confederate flag with a Peace symbol smack at the heart of the bars and stripes. And I was heard to say, "Hmm...."

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:17 (nineteen years ago)

3.0 The woman at the top of the page looks kind of like some of my relatives. Imagine her saying, "Hi Jesse, you look thirsty, would you like some paaaahp? Yah, you look tired. I heard you gaaht up at daahn, eh. That's that's whoreible."

3.1 (This is to point out that Midwesterners--esp. Michiganders--have a weird way of pronouncing their short "O" and an really hard time differentiating it from the "AW" and the "ô" sound.)

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:27 (nineteen years ago)

It's true. If you think that's bad you should hear some of the people I went to grade school with. And I have no idea what the ô is.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:40 (nineteen years ago)

4.0 The ladybugs are OUTTA CONTROL HERE. Every fall and winter for 8 years my parents' house has been a ladybug hive as they come in from the cold. Every night my mom goes around with a jar on a stick, and removes them from the ceiling. She averages about 25 a day.

They are so populous because they were brought in to kill the gypsy moth which was killing hundreds of acres of forest every year.

xpost--

ô is the sound in "horrible." It is not supposed to be pronounced "whoreible."

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

My thought process for renting the Baxter was thus: "Ebert gave it a pretty crappy review and two stars. I wonder what he gave Wet Hot American Summer? Oh, he gave it one star and a tossed off rhyming review. Fuck Ebert, this movie must be great."

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 02:49 (nineteen years ago)

I really love the new Jay-Z track.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 03:12 (nineteen years ago)

I fucking hate Wet Hot American Summer.

That said, I really like Showalter and Ian Black and think "The State" is sadly underrated, as was "Stella".

The Baxter was ok, I guess. The girl was cute. I didn't finish watching it.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

Also, Dear Paul Rudd: I think you're groovy and I forgive you for everything.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 03:42 (nineteen years ago)

In looking for bad reviews of WHAS, I found something better:

"Sometimes being completely unfunny is part of the program... Inconsistency is the secret m.o., and the film exists in a humid meta-movie ether all its own... It will be loathed, but it might be ahead of its time."

Heh. Maybe so, Village Voice, maybe so.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 03:45 (nineteen years ago)

(Here's a secret... "The Ladies Man" was on cable Sunday afternoon... and I laughed at it. A fair amount.)

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 03:47 (nineteen years ago)

I fucking love Kenan for fucking hating Wet Hot American Summer. I DO NOT SEE THE POINT.

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 10:35 (nineteen years ago)

So let's line up by how we feel about WHAS.

I stand near the head of the line that wants to see this movie playing in my head at ALL TIMES OF THE DAY AND NIGHT.

Jeff and Kenan bring up the other end. I think Jenny's right there with them.

That leaves Dan, Jordan, Julia, Laurel, Nick, Sarah, et cetera.

Rock the vote.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

Reasons enough to like WHAS:

Paul Rudd and Janeaeeanae Garafalo. And "I want you inside me!" And the scene where they go to town for one just hour and go from smoking cigarettes to buying smack and getting addicted and strung out in a flop house.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:12 (nineteen years ago)

And *whispers* "it's for my pussy!"

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

whas is indeed pointless and is indeed great.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

I've only seen it once but I kind of liked it. But I liked Stella, too.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

and we made a mistake. It was called "Silent Hill".

But it will shatter your senses and leave you breathless!

(Or at least that's what my film-critic friend Brian says in the only blurb on the back of the DVD.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

And I love Wet Hot American Summer. I laughed more at that than perhaps any other movie of this decade.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

Liked it. Saw it with people who had watched it together a dozen times already, and I had that self-consciousness of trying to figure out whether it was worth seeing a dozen times (same thing happened when I was The Matrix with a bunch of people who were seeing it for the third time).

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

I know what you mean.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't think WHAS was very funny when I first saw it, but I was dying the second time.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

I DO NOT SEE THE POINT.

That is because:

whas is indeed pointless and is indeed great.

And *whispers* "it's for my pussy!"

In the commentary track J. Garafalo says that she pushed to have this line removed. She was reallly against it but didn't say why. (She is asking for lube, right?) Personally, this line is OK.

Other reasons to love the movie: The scene where Garafalo and .... someone else... David Hyde Pierce(?) gratuitously destroy the office as they get to the phone. Also when Katie tells Paul Rudd that he kisses well and he responds "Fuck you, dyke!"

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

Is the commentary funny?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

I watched a little bit of WHAS because Jesse and Courtney would not shut their traps about it and didn't laugh at all so I turned it off. It seemed like a run-of-the-mill dumb comedy to me. I'll watch it again one day just out of love for Jesse.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'm back!
While I was gone, one of my bitcharoo coworkers got a haircut. She'd had hideously long hair for the past 21 YEARS.

In better news, I got to ride on a time machine in Wisconsin.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/80/265949496_1233a5efe5.jpg

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

You found Doc Evermore's Magical Ranch!

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:46 (nineteen years ago)

Yep! I'm guessing you've been there, right? There were all of these statues you could play, and by that I mean beat with metal objects to make sounds. Some slick looking guy appeared out of nowhere and asked if he could film us playing one. He was working on a documentary about Doc Evermore. He said the doc himself would be showing up about an hour later, but we wanted to hit the road.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, I would love to drum on weird-ass statues.

Actually I've driven by there many many times, but it's always been closed or I haven't had time to stop.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, that looks more like an anti-aircraft cannon than a time machine. Crazy!

I am back at work now. I kind of don't remember how. And I have 535 emails to sort through.

I have never seen WHAS.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, we thought it was closed at first, but apparently you have to drive around and enter through the surplus store. We were accompanied by a motorcycle gang.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

I suck at wedding planning. I was trying to email a caterer to set up a tasting. They did a quote for us back in JUNE. Anyway, the email was returned to sender. In trying to resend the email to a different address of theirs, I instead resent an email I sent them a few months ago. Then I had to send another email explaining the confusion and including the message I meant to send originally. DOH!

My desk is messy.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

But I liked Stella, too.

Speaking of which, I just spent the last half hour writing an e-mail to an old college friend who's pregnant and is thinking about naming it Stella and wanted some advice from me re baby names.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

I know someone else named Stella, I think she's maybe 9ish now? Good name. Latin is solid stuff.

JMZ, you should open baby name consulting firm.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

If she's 9, she's on the vanguard. The name wasn't even among the Top 1000 from 1983-98. It's now #250.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

I knew a Stella in college, but she was Chinese and thus part of the phenomenon of Asian parents giving their children outdated American names out of ignorance. Although the names are often cognates to names in their traditional culture -- I'm pretty sure Stella had a Chinese name, too. Maybe Kelsey would remember.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

Stella is my friend April's Australian Shepherd's name.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

No apparent effect on the popularity of Stella:

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/images/streetcarstella.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

the bar i was at yesterday was out of stella. or the tap was broken, one or the other.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

The bar I was at yesterday (Heartland) was out of Stella, too!

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh yeah, how'd that go, E.?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

A lot of fun. Basically a way to hang out with the Brighton MA and I. Factory guys for a few hours. The BMA guys did this thing of making a buzzing Zzzzzz sound when I went onstage.

All of the bands were supposed to do a John Lennon song. I wasn't ready for that - was talking to the BMA guitart player and naming Beatles songs I liked, and he kept telling me that McCartney wrote them, other than one or two that Harrison wrote. So my Lennon tribute was 'a tribute to a tribute to John Lennon' - I did 'Don't Look Back In Anger' and a minor-key cover of 'When I'm Sixty-Four'.

Eazy (Eazy), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

You should have done "Jealous Guy"! Not because you are one, but because I can totally hear you singing that.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

For a band as famous as the Beatles, they sure have a whole lot of songs I don't know. Matt said he was going to sing something called "Hey Bulldog" and then some other thing I hadn't heard of.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago)

[/The Lex]

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

The guy who wrote me the email I posted yesterday just came in for his tutoring and told me this awesome story about how he played cello in his church. His mom organized a children's orchestra and he said that they weren't any good, but they "played with a lot of emotion." He said that at one point he even started crying and his heart exploded. He also said that "the church grew big members."

Hehe.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

I love "Hey Bulldog"!!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, that wasn't like The Lex at all. The Lex would've said, "Who are the Beatles?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know that song, or most Beatles tunes.

/jaymc

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

I like jazz! Doot de doot de doo!

/Jordan

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

I have Courtney. Repeat, I have Courtney.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

haha

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

brucemcculloughjazzschmazz.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

"I'll never get drunk on just one beer!"

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Where th fuck is Jesse? I've called him 20 times since yesterday afternoon. I mean, I know he's probably on a plane and all. But if he checks here before he calls me, I want him to know that

his keys are under the violin.

And that I'll be there about 6:30-7.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, since you mentioned it earlier... The Thursday FF show is at GUNTHER MURPHY'S (1638 W Belmont). (And Welcome, Courtney! Is she here for good now? Does she lurk on ILX?)

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)

Where does your company buy their printer toner?? I need to find a much cheaper alternative to our office supplies company.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

It looks like Costco is our best bet. HELLO, CHICAGO! TALK TO ME!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Hello.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Yo, wassup?! Hi-five!

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know where our toner comes from, beyond the office administrator who orders that sort of thing every month.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

Hello.

Laurel, According to a lady I work with, when her single female friends decided it was time to settle down, they all moved to New York long enough to find mates. She said it's the place to go if you want to get married. Is that in the tour books?

Preggers coworker that I LIKE brought me back a rice crispy treat today since I helped her put some boxes (of baby stuff ordered online) in her car.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, that's totally crazy talk -- no one in NYC gets married, or if they do, they immediately leave here. Plus the beauty standard is insane (and I happen to be feeling that especially today). What do you think her friends are like?? Maybe it's true for a very particular segment of the population, but my demographic is sure as hell not involved.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

I think her friends - if they are at all like her - are ridiculously wealthy and look like models. She looks like a hot 17 year old but she's really @ 40.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan:

1. How do you do white text like that? I want to use it to put spoilers on the LOST thread.

2. Where will you be at 6:30-7?

...

I think I am going to see The Departed after work, if anyone wants to join me. Either River East 21 at 6:15 or Davis at 6:45.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

or if they do, they immediately leave here

Apparently because they are snared by people from other cities who only go to NYC to marry them!

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Oh. Well, money + beauty = you own New York.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't notice that about Kenan's post!

I really want to see the Departed, but I need to go to the gym and then band practice.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

i was supposed to make a mix this weekend for someone who is moving from san diego to nyc. that's a long-assed car trip.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

John, use "" instead of "(" and ")" like this:

(FONT COLOR="EEEEEE")blah blah blah(\FONT)

EEEEEE is the hexidecimal number for white. Any combination of numbers 0-9 or letters A-F will produce different colors.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

Damn you, HMTL parser!!!! Use the less than/greater than symbols instead of the parens.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Be crazy! Have fun! Annoy other ilxors!

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I guess that doesn't work either. I'm through fucking around with this here.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I was just thinking: that's one for the HTML playground board.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

I'm the new Jesse :)

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

ghosts of ilxors past

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oh my font didn't work. Off to the playground.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

I know! It must be some CSS shit or something.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

I looked up that hexidecimal shit already and tried it on the Playground a couple weeks ago but to no avail.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.cmj.com/images/news/2006/apr/cansei-de-ser-sexy.jpg

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

I am watching 'Brick' tonight and I am looking forward to it. I think I remember Nick really liking it?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse's on his way. I got a voice mail message from his pocket that included some pilot talk (hopefully he wasn't in flight when his pocket called me). His plane lands at fourish, I think.

Sarah, what time do you kids go on?

Court-court is here until Saturday to go on job interviews and check out the apartment rental market. She'll be here FOREVER on Nov. 1 or 2. I skipped both of my classes to pick her up/go to lunch! But I had to go back to work, which makes me sad.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

xpost!Yeah, he did. I liked it too.

I was just looking on IMDB and most of the actors in that movie were born in 1981 (except Lukas Haas who is my age and makes for a cute gangster)
http://www.straight.com/images/MOV_Pre_Brick_1998.jpg

Jenny, I dunno. I've never played there before, so I don't know how closely they follow a schedule. But doors open at 8, show at 9, supposedly. I think we're playing last of 3.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

I fell asleep on the plane with my glasses on and they are all bent to hell and it is driving me K R A Z Y!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Have Nick fix 'em.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

looks like we missed a good time chicago:

If you took one of the following things from my party (or know somebody who did) can you please give them back: Superchunk mug, 2 plain ceramic bowls, cat painting, "Steel Curtain" drawing. Also, if you're the person who brought back the Alva skateboard deck after somebody took it, I'd like to say THANKS, a lot. Here's an Abe Lincoln painting. It's 9'x5' and costs $200. I'd buy it if I were you, it's going to go quick. EAT IT GEORGE. "Sniffing glue, drinking cough syrup and listening to Bill Haley records" - WHO WOULDN'T WANT TO BE A SIMON CITY ROYAL? I am hosting Fall Night at Danny's, you will come?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

The Jesse has landed.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

He's grumpy and his butt itches. I don't know if those two things are related.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

Dan: #ffffff is white, not #eeeeee. And anytime you have six of the same character, you can just use the first three. And the font tag is non-standard. So do this:

<p style="color:#fff;">Words words words</p>

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

Fuck! I've been out of the game too long.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Color #eee looks like this, which is pretty light, but not quite white.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

SECRETS!!!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

I had a conversation with the supposed "webmaster" of the company the other day, or anyway the girl who once built all the web pages, and I was a little astonished to realize how much she didn't know about what I was doing. She hid it from me for a while, but it is now blazingly obvious that she has never written a single character of CSS or hand-coded a single line of HTML in herr entire life. She doesn't even know how to use Dreamweaver. Just Visual Studio.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

THE HORRORS

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Considering what her job is, yeah, the horrors. The horror of my job is that the marketing department doesn't understand that web design means not just making things look better, but work better and be coded cleaner and etc. etc. and I can't do that without doing a significant portion of what is still supposed to be her job. Only she doesn't know how to do any of that. I say, let her piddle with her little ASP bullshit database whatsit, and let me build websites. It's a hard sell, though. I spend a lot of time sitting on my hands.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Fire her.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

Btw you may be pleased to note that I've had the new Roots on in the car since Saturday and I'm liking it a lot more.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

It's amazing to me that this person knows ASP and not know about HMTL and CSS. Now, ASP.Net, that'd make a little more sense.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Ahem, you didn't tell me where you were going at 6:30, Kenan. Unless I'm not invited...

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

Dan: I meant ASP.Net, of course. No, she does not write software.


John: I am not going anywhere special. To Jesse's place to say hello to Jesse, and then to Julia's.

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

Oh. I only asked because JENNY mentioned something about dinner/drinks tonight.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 10 October 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'm here. Jenny's butt itches. I'm not grumpy, but I am however sick to death of bullshit TSA/FAA inconsistent bullshit.

A lot of shit happened, but my biggest question is WHY???? is it that I flew with my hand sanitizer before, but suddenly at Saginaw airport the TSA regulation says that I have to put it in a Ziploc bag? HOW DOES PUTTING A POTENTIAL LIQUID EXPLOSIVE IN A ZIPLOC PRESERVE NATIONAL SECURITY? Ugh.

Also, WHY is it that when flying out of New Orleans they announced "For your safety, FAA regulations require that your window shades be raised completely during take-off and landing. Thank you for your co-operation"????????? (???) Why?

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 02:08 (nineteen years ago)

(That was me, Jesse who just wrote that.)

Jesse also wrote this (kenan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 02:09 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, Jesse.

I am alone at the office, and it's dark.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

Hi Sarah.

I'm alone in our apartment and I want to go back to bed.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

I'm alone in our apartment and I don't want to do the mountain of work I have to do in order to get out of town this weekend. Packing + planning for 3 classes = stress.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

PS Hi ladies.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

I should definitely not be here, but here I am.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, Jenny & Amanda.

This weekend is your father-in-law's wedding, right?

Uh oh. I think my least favorite coworker is here now. We're alone! It's going to be a death match!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:34 (nineteen years ago)

FiL was this past weekend (and I managed to not go to that one on account of not being able to get a sub for my Sat. class) -- this is the college friend in Brooklyn wedding. I am wondering whether it's worse to wear a dress with a stain on it or a dress that makes me look preggo.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

Where's the stain? How many months pregnant?

I started out to apply for externships at two government agencies, and now I'm applying to five. I really want an externship next semester so that I'll only have three classes to mess with.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

Worse to wear a stained dress in my mind.

I finally got around to watching Lost last night. I f'ing love that show. Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to read that Lost thread I've been avoiding for a week.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

I back the death match -- shall I stand by and sharpen your letter openers?

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

The stain is on the hem, near the front. Pretty bad. The other one: I look like, I dunno, 4 mo pregs? It's a trapeze dress that my grandma made for my mom in the '60s. Ivory satin with heavy brown lace overlay. It's really, I dunno, modest. I'm small, but not really bony enough to dispel the idea that I'm carrying luggage under there.

My other option is to wear a white dress with black shoes. Is that bold or terrible?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:51 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I could wear red shoes and my red purse with the white dress?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:52 (nineteen years ago)

No white dress is okay for a wedding. I'm sure there are rare exceptions but they'd have to be exceedingly well planned. Can you have the stain dry-cleaned in time? :(

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

See, that's what I was afraid of. AGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH. I guess it's preg-dress.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

Wear the preggers dress. It's vintage!

It's too bad my letter openers are so damn safe.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

Can you shorten the hem to hide the stain?? If that makes it too short you could shorten the hem and then add some ruching or lace or a contrasting fabric to bring the length back.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

Haha.

I'm alone in my apartment, making breakfast and charging my phone. I should be at work by now.

Last night I went to the gym, made a veggie burger, started Brick, and then ill-advisedly went out and gorged myself on chicken wings and beer.

xpost

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

The dress is already mid-thigh, so it's SHORT. Any shorter and I get kicked out.

On the other hand, the mix I made for the reception is good! It's putting me in a better mood.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

wear the preggers dress and play it up. say you're not really sure about who the father is or that you've started selling babies to supplement your income or something. as i've said before, there's something about weddings that make me want to tell the most fantastic lies.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

Will you be playing it through an ipod?

Jordan, was that part of your Gentleman's book club?

We went to the gym last night, then put up some show fliers, then had a relatively healthy dinner (veggie corndogs & corn on the cob), and then had band practice avec beer.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Nope, this was the standard literature-free Tuesday night wing gathering (although we went to a corny west side bar instead of the usual downtown spot). I'm enjoying Blood Meridian though.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago)

avec = with? featuring?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

Alright, pregs dress it is. Lying will be easy and fun at this wedding. Lotsa strangers. The other option I forgot to mention is a dress I can hardly move in, so since I plan on eating and dancing until I pass out I think trapeze-dress is the best option.

I am going to bring a CD as well as my ipod, just in case my battery dies.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

avec = with

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

Oh my god. This farm I lived on during the worst years of my life (complete isolation, infestation of every kind imaginable, multiple pets dieing, middle schoolhood, and my parents getting divorced) has been completely revamped and is on the market for $400k (which is alot in that part of rural Virginia, far away from any paved roads).

When we lived there, we painted the subflooring. My dad and uncles and cousins dismantled an old barn and would find 8 snakes at once all writhing around together under boards. The lawn was constantly covered in deer parts thanks to hunters and our dogs. Now, everything is cleaned up. There are even nice horse barns and riding rinks! Crazy!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

Honestly, I kind of wish it would have just been destroyed in a fire or something. I feel like it's rising up again to come find me. NOOOO!!!

Seriously, though. That house gives me nightmares. Birds got trapped in the walls all the time and you'd hear them die. Rats ran around at night. There were lots of bats too! I'm giving myself the heebiejeebies over here.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

I've decided I should change my signature, or at least the way I sign letters. It's hard, though! My hand just wants to get it over with and I end up with this horrible, pointy, crabbed scribble that looks like no actual words in existence. Nobody is going to hire me for anything with a signature like this!

xpost - whoa! Did your family own the farm? Is no snake-infested, deer part-laden piece of land safe from gentrification?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

Trying to change the way I sign my name feels... dishonest, somehow.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

That sounds like some Texas Chainsaw Massacre shit, Sarah.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

xp - Then don't do it! Why would anyone care what your handwriting looks like? My friend who has the WORST bubbly 6th-grader handwriting is a lawyer and she has had no difficulty finding jobs. Doncha worry lady.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, my fam owned the farm. It was an ugly, ugly time.

I know what you mean about changing your signature. You want it to match your driver's license though. Currently, my name looks like Sarah Johnnnnn, maybe Sarah Johns. The delivery guys always have to ask for my name after I sign off for stuff. I'm looking forward to getting to sign Sarah Ammmmmmmm instead.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

Mine looks like Jscribble C_________

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, it totally was. And I'm sure I've told you guys about the day my dad took a chainsaw out into the field to cut down this old tree?

It's like this. He found a dead pony under a tree. She was kind of ours, but we found her ON THE PROPERTY roaming around when we got there with f'ed up hooves like elves and all kinds of problems. She was sweet but very old. Anyway, so he found her dead under a tree. After removing the body, he thought, you know, this tree is ancient and dead and we should remove that too. So he brought the chainsaw out there, cut into the tree, and was covered in blood! There were a whole bunch of snakes hibernating inside it.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

Holy fuck, that's like "The Shining"-style bees in a glass bowl except SNAKIER and BLOODY.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

Another true horror story brought to you by Sarah Johnson:

When we moved into the house, the side porch reeked. My dad and uncle pulled up some floor boards and found about three different dead animals. They had crawled under the house to die.

Anyway, one day my dad sent me down into the basement to turn on the water so we could fill up the horse trough. I was scared to death of going down there. It was really dark too. After I turned the faucet on, I looked down and it seemed like my legs were turning black. I ran back up out the stairs and outside and my entire body was covered in fleas. One of our dogs (actually, a dog that we found on the property, left IN A CAGE) had died down in the crawl space.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

My parents decided for a while to try to make things work, so my mom moved back home. Then directly afterwards, late that night, my uncles called on a conference call offering to send somewhat out to exhorcize my mom.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago)

(someone)

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:42 (nineteen years ago)

Bad times, bad times.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah. Please never leave Chicago and your nice, sturdy, clean, vermin-free apartment.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I think I'll stick around here for a while.

I'm sure I also told you guys about the Barbie massacre? My youngest sister had left her tub of barbies outside over night. When we opened the front door to go to church, there were little doll parts EVERYWHERE - little hands, little feet, heads.. Sadly, my sister kept playing with them anyway. Her Ken doll had a huge hole in his head.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:49 (nineteen years ago)

...AND THAT's WHY I AM THE WAY I AM TODAY.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

i feel the overwhelming urge to buy you a bowl of soup sarah.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Thanks. It just so happens I'm fucking starving.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

My signature looks like this:

J-h- C--gh----

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

I am
Doll eyes
Doll mouth
Doll legs
I am
Doll arms
Big veins
Dog bait

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

(Yes, that's the real lyric.)

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

my signature looks like kevin t. rip without the i

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

or the dot on the i.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Which reminds me... I was often starving out there because:
a) My mom left and my dad didn't know how to be a parent
b) I couldn't drive yet
c) We weren't in walking distance of anywhere you could buy something edible

During the week I would make spam for my sisters and we'd chew on raw spaghetti for snacks.

GROSS STORY ALERT!
One time a cousin came to babysit us. He tried to make a chicken he got at the grocery store, a precooked one. I was so excited because I was literally starving all the time. He took it out of the oven, put it on a plate, and brought it to the table. When he cut into it, it burst open and was full of worms (!).

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

Talk to me about something else. The signature talk isn't distracting enough.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:57 (nineteen years ago)

Mornin'. My signature looks like all-caps graffiti.

I also spent some time on an ex-farm growing up. Part of my folks' whole getting-back-to-the-earth phase, I'd say. That house was struck by lightning multiple times, which I always felt sort of freaked out by. Also, our neighbor's bulls would get loose and come into our fields/yard and my mom would scare the shit out of me to get me to stay away from them, talking about gorings and such.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

yes, please, before i start having nightmares.

Who are you playing with tomorrow at gunther murphys? there are two of them aren't there? is this the one on belmont? like belmont and ashland?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

So when I said you looked like an Alice Hoffman character, that was pretty much right on! Good to know.

My sig is in cursive, I can't describe it here but you definitely can't read it. It developed when I had to sign 100+ rejection slips at a time, so it's pretty much the simplest possible form. My mother hates it, she thinks your signature has to be literally legible for legal purposes -- it doesn't, does it?!?

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

Gunther Murphy's

There are two??
We're playing with our friends the Sharks and this band called the Laureates. Ben used to play in a band with a guy in Laureates (the nouns, I think?). There are links to both their pages on the GM site I linked.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

Dear Jaymc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqZNog4h7j8&eurl=

Jesse used to live in a school bus, speaking of The Rural Living Situations of Our Youth.

Crew is having some Project Runway finale extravaganza tonight that I do believe we will be attending, for those of you keeping track of the JesseCourtney Party Train.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

literally legible for legal purposes -- it doesn't, does it?!?

dunno but i can tell you that our old c.e.o. deliberately made his signature as easy as possible to forge because there was always stuff that needed to be signed at work and he wanted any of the partners to be able to do it. our controller was the best at it, i was by far the worst.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

I meant to go to Gunther Murphy's last night to see BUSCEMI, but saw The Departed instead. It was very good.

I grew up in the suburbs. No scary stories here.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

It developed when I had to sign 100+ rejection slips at a time, so it's pretty much the simplest possible form.

This is where I'd invest in a rubber stamp. Or administrative assistant.

My mother hates it, she thinks your signature has to be literally legible for legal purposes -- it doesn't, does it?!?

Nope.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, that YouTube link.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think it has to be legible, just unique.

I wish I was in on the Project Runway train, but I've never seen it before. Instead, I'll be watching Lost tonight.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

actually, no, there aren't two. i was mistaken, there used to be a place called "murphy's" further down belmont that i was confusing it with.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

I hope my stories didn't creep anyone out TOO too much. I've got plenty more where they came from. Also, it's almost Halloween.

Which reminds me... WHO WILL BE HAVING A HALLOWEEN PARTY?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

I have no scorched earth horror stories, but I did grow up in a converted farmhouse. It looked like there was a silo attached to the house that was actually the main stairs (wood boards spiraling around an old telephone pole). All the floors in the house were wood, but totally raw and unfinished so that if you walked around barefoot or in socks you would get mad splinters.

(I suppose that's why I wear shoes almost all the time at home now!)

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, I was the administrative assistant. :)

My childhood is disgustingly pastoral and traditional and small-town normal. No one wants to hear about it. I wouldn't mind hearing about Jesse's school bus, though!

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

TS: Dan asking out girl he works in the same office with, though not directly with.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Also TS: Talking about yourself in the third person.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

go for it, unless there's an expressed policy against it.

er xpost.

otto doesn't like people talking in 3rd person.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

Taking sides? But you didn't offer an alternative!

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:14 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, vs. not asking her out and settling for the relaxed, easygoing conversations we occasionally have on the bus or at lunch.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

dan, you obviously want MORE than the relaxed, easygoing conversations you occasionally have on the bus or at lunch so ask man.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Invite her to the FF show and see if she bites. If she does, you can pursue a more personal outside-of-work thing. If not, whatever. No harm done.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

Is that the same as "asking her out"? I dunno.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

Translation: "Invite her to the FF show and see if she bites. If she does, you can get her drunk and see what happens."

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Hm. The show may be a little too soon, plus I think she lives in the burbs.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

(Meaning that it might be a pain in the ass for her to get there.)

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Translation: "Invite her to the FF show and see if she bites. If she does, you can get her drunk and see what happens."

and with any luck it will turn into this weird nebulous thing that ebbs and flows so often that you don't really know what's going on. not that i'm projecting or anything.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

What about our FRIDAY show? ha ha

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Why don't you go out right after work with her then?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

xxpost Oh man, that sounds familiar.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

That's why I intentionally didn't say "get her drunk" -- I meant that you could see if she's into you if she shows up and if so, take it from there. Maybe see if a conversation leads to a movie you both want to see or something.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

Be a gentleman!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

On one hand I want to say ask her, Dan, but I'm never sure if that's a good idea with co-workers.

I'm going out with that JSDG* tomorrow, hopefully it will be fun.


*Jewish swing dancing girl

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

That's what I'm kinda thinking Jordan, looking back at my own past. This is a different work situation though, the only work-related interactions we ever have is random requests for transfers of back-up files.

I'll probably just sit here and mentalize it some more :P

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

Dan, maybe you could drum up some folks for a happy hour after work one day and see if she'd be interested in joining?

Are you going swing dancing, Jordan?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda, you are of course right. I was just sort of mostly kidding about the drunk. Or at least about its being a good idea.

Jordan, good turnaround time! I'm a little bit at a loss w/r/t meeting people over the age of 30, since suddenly all my friends here are babies. I might need new hobbies.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

...plus I think she lives in the burbs.

Deal-breaker.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a little bit at a loss w/r/t meeting people over the age of 30, since suddenly all my friends here are babies.

yep, same deal here. they're all too young or, if appropriately aged, too married.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

xpost Hah! That's what my housemate said.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

Are you going swing dancing, Jordan?

No, because I am one suck-ass dancer (although I had fun jumping around during your guys' set). Actually, if a dude being a good and willing dancer is a requirement for her = DEAL-BREAKER.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Bummer drag, dude.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

hmm.

my apartment isn't huge, but a reasonable two bedroom for two people and two cats. but we might have a third cat come december, if i don't veto the idea. he sounds like a nice cat, and he needs a good home, and there aren't really any alternatives for him. but THREE CATS seems a bit much.

Juulia (julesbdules), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

I had three cats/two people in a two bedroom. It's definitely doable, but it is a lot of cats. And fur. And litterboxes.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, serious question for work. I'm putting together a small dining and club guide for a building in Lakeview (3650 N. Lake Shore Drive) for a new website, and I need recommendations for what the hottest stuff to do within reasonable walking distance would be. Fine dining especially, but in general just hot spots. Nothing too queer (I can't decide whether to include the Kit Kat or not). Jenny? Jeff? Jesse? Anyone?

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:33 (nineteen years ago)

I think Kit Kat is a good bet. I'm having trouble imagining Addison that far east, though.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

i rarely get to lakeview so i'm even less of a help for this than i am for most things.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:00 (nineteen years ago)

i have no idea either. sorey!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

Fie on you all. FIE!

always crashing in other people's cars (kenan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

"Fie" is such a good Boggle word. Also, "hie". I must have used hie a dozen times on Saturday.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

I don't even play "fie" and "hie" in Boggle because I feel like it's cheating.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

But I also usually win, so that's what known as "cushioning the blow."

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

At the same time, I do hate "Scrabble words." I like it much better when the words you play are words you might actually say or come across in standard American English. A type of bush found only in Kuwait? Fuck you.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

While I was in Alaska I landed "equate" on like a double word score and got 78 points. I think that may have been my best Scrabble game ever.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Kr and I played Scrabble a couple weeks ago, and it was awkward, because she doesn't like to keep score, and I'm someone who can be kind of competitive at word games and trivia games because historically they have made up for my complete inability at sports.

I should've known it was going to be weird when I said, rhetorically, "Okay, so we need a sheet paper and a pen, right?" and she paused and said "I guess." At first she was beating me -- I never play Scrabble, since we only had Upwords when I was a kid, so I'm a little unfamiliar with the strategy -- but then I caught up pretty quickly and was ahead for the rest of the game. The last half hour was played in complete silence. :(

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

What's the point if you don't keep score?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

Ok, so I am trying to schedule catering tastings and I hear back from the first place.. .And it costs $25 a person! I never spend that much when we go out to eat somewhere kind of nice.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

Have you considered having your party in a private room of a restaurant? That's what we did (Reza's) and it was expensive, but that's the way it is for full meal + booze. I think ours was about $25/person but that included unlimited beer and wine.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

What's the point if you don't keep score?

Yeah, I don't really understand.

$25/person is not too bad if you're drinking. I mean, I typically don't like to spend more than $15 for an entree, but if you throw in a glass of wine and an appetizer/dessert, or even just a couple of beers, it's pretty easy to spend that much.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

It's also just how much weddings/catered events cost these days. That's why people agonize over guest lists!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

Well, we never get drinks & dessert because it's expensive.

I think there was some confusion - I mean that it costs $25 a person to do the tasting.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

All of our actual catering quoutes have been coming in more around $110 a person, but that includes table/chair rentals.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, I know this is tacky to discuss.

BUT! Why should we have to pay for the tasting? I would think that if we went with them, they'd throw the tasting in free, but apparently instead they just add it to your invoice.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Oh -- oops. I never did any stuff with catering because I don't have the patience/$$. We just chose a restaurant that had a room and decent food and that was that.

Something tells me that they are going to charge a lot for the food if they charge that much for the tasting!!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm. That does seem pricey. I mean, there is some outlay for the food preparer in getting a tasting menu ready, but you'd think they'd chalk it up as the cost of doing business.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that's what I had assumed, Laurel. I mean, I've been emailing with them back and forth. It's not like I just called them up and said GIMME SOME FOOD, YOU.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

Ask if the $25 apiece is deductable if you eventually hire them for the job. It ought to be.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I have no idea what tastings cost.

Okay I want to bring something up:

So Kr tried to make a homemade pizza on Sunday but found that the oven in her new apartment didn't work. Like, no heat. So she called her landlady the next morning and said "Uh, the oven doesn't work" so landlady said she would send someone over, but then also said something like, "It'd be so much easier if people moving in had basic necessities, like plungers and long matches to light pilot lights." But it wasn't the pilot light, because the stove works just fine. (At least I think it's not the pilot light: there's no flame, but there are flashing sparks where a flame would be when you turn on a burner.)

So apparently the maintenance dude came over on Monday and fixed it, but when Kr got home from work, the oven still didn't work. And so she called back and said "no dice" and the landlady said "Hmmm, well, I'll send him back over" and so he came back yesterday, but when Kr got home, it STILL didn't work. Kr left another frustrated message, and so this morning, landlady called and said "The maintenance guy noticed that there was some grease on the spot directly above the pilot light -- you probably just need to clean your stove." To which Kr was like, "Uh, I just moved in, and I've used my stove maybe two or three times, it's clean."

ARGH. So what should she do? She offered to leave work early and meet the maintenance guy at her apartment, so he could show her how he magically got the oven to work, but landlady wasn't having any of that. Also, this is maybe just me being dumb, but what do pilot lights have to do with the oven? I thought it was just for the burners on the stove. There isn't a separate pilot light just for the oven that we've been ignoring, is there?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

Even worse, we ended up taking the pizza back to my place last night and cooked it in my oven, but it ended up getting burned and stuck to the pan. :(

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)

I'm telling you... evening cocktail and desert reception. Elegant, inexpensive, and you can tell caterers who want to charge you $25 to find out first hand whether their wares are any good to CRAM IT.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

there is a separate pilot for oven. usually you have to open the broiler (if so equipped) or there's a hole in the bottom of the oven for lighting it. that's why you need the long matches.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

(At least I think it's not the pilot light: there's no flame, but there are flashing sparks where a flame would be when you turn on a burner.)

I want to expand on this: I've never seen a stove like this. I tried to "light" the pilot light by burning the end of a long piece of dry spaghetti, as I usually do, but it wouldn't create a flame over the electric blue sparks, which made a clicking noise as they flashed.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

A gas oven runs on a pilot light, too. Kr's landlady sounds alarmingly like Jeff and my last landlady in Greensboro. The only thing she can do is stay strong and keep calling. Clean the grease spot, call her back, and tell her that the oven still doesn't work. Optionally, she can say that it's insane to think that a grease spot would render an oven useless.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:16 (nineteen years ago)

That last part makes it sound like the gas wasn't on, J. Which would be odd, after all the service visits, but...

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

the clicking noise is caused by "ignitors" which work the same as flint wheels on cigarette lighters. if they are creating a spark then it sounds to me like there may not be enough gas getting to them to create a flame. do you smell gas when you turn the oven on?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

But the stove works. Like there are flames on the burners, and she can heat up a tea kettle or a pan of pasta sauce or whatever just fine. So that means there's gas, right?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

that means there's gas to the burners, there may not be gas getting to the oven.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

But I thought you said the oven was on a separate pilot light...? (Sorry I'm dumb about this.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

No, hypothetically the gas line to the oven burner could be blocked. I'm not sure how likely that is, but it would explain the symptoms.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

whoops, hit submit too early. the hose to the oven could be blocked, missing, torn, kinked, etc. that's preventing gas from making it to the pilot.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Similar story: We had no heat. I called the landlady. She sent the maintenance guy over. When we got home, there was no heat. So I called her back to find out what the problem was and she said that she was sorry, but the maintenance guy didn't know what was wrong with the heat, as if that was an acceptable end to us having no heat in the middle of winter.

Another story: After repeated requests to get her to fix a leaky pipe under the kitchen sink, she said that the problem was that we stored cleaning products under there and bumped into the pipes when we took them out, thus causing the pipes to leak.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Weird! I had this very same problem with my oven recently -- oddly, while trying to make a pizza -- and since I don't have the option of calling the landlord, I tried everything I could to fix it myself. The pilot light, etc. The other thing is that the oven would work intermittently -- sometimes heating up after a very long period.

What fixed it? Cleaning the area in the broiler where the flames should be coming out and around the pilot light. The landlady might not be crazy. Our oven has worked fine ever since. It's not Kr's fault that the thing was dirty, but it seems that filth can cause an oven malfunction.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

tastings can be spendy. sometimes though, places will do group tastings so you could ask if there is some discount with that. then anyone who has ever been interested in tasting could come at once & it's ultimately less work for them.
but, i do agree that they shouldn't charge. i would be upfront with them about it. you could even lie & say that you have tastings scheduled elsewhere that are not charging. i don't know. every place is different.

Sweet Tater (kelstarry), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

You guys are being very helpful, thanks.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

NOTE -- my stovetop burners worked fine too.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

ok, the gas comes from the wall/floor connection and connects to the appliance. within the appliance there will be a "y" connection, one branch will lead up to the top for the burners, one will lead down to the oven. gas from the wall is fine as evidenced by the top burners working. oven is not working so either the flow is blocked or isn't under enough pressure to the oven.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, three cats, two people, small one bedroom, one litter box, cleaned twice a day every day. We comb the cats regularly and vacuum a couple times a week. Until you see their sweet little furry faces, you can't tell that we have cats.

xpost to Amanda re: dirty oven - fascinating! Our oven is filthy thanks to the meth addict dirt ball that used to live there. It works, but for HOW LONG????

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

...as if that was an acceptable end to us having no heat in the middle of winter.

URGENT AND MOTHAFUCKIN KEY! Why do people act like this is a sufficient answer??? It happens in my line of work, too, ie "we don't know what happened to ruin the books, we didn't find direct evidence in our sample copies." NOT GOOD ENOUGH. BOOKS STILL RUINED.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, grease COULD be blocking the gas from making it to the pilot light. that would be quite a build up i'd imagine.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I've been using the hell out of this one for 2.5 years and it just recently pooped out. But a quick cleany-clean with a paper towel solved my problem completely. Now the oven works just fine and no one had to call a repairman or mess with the scary gas pipes.

Our oven is a super cheap model. I also use the broiler a lot, so who knows. Maybe it's because of that.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

We are filthy. :(

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

And greasy, apparently!

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Yup. But we clean up ok.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha

Sorry I turned into a bridemonster again. Apparently, word on the streets (ie: bridal boards) is that some catering companies charge for tastings and some don't, but that even those who charge usually charge way less than their actual cost (ie: planning time/ chef's time/ service at tasting/ actual food).

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

one litter box, cleaned twice a day every day. We comb the cats regularly and vacuum a couple times a week. Until you see their sweet little furry faces, you can't tell that we have cats.

That is an astounding level of cat maintenance.

My cat is behaving interestingly now that he's living with one human and no cats. He used to be the quietest cat in the world and now he's meowing his little head off. I hope it's because he's not intimidated by the other cats anymore (I think he has social anxiety disorder) and not because of existential angst.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

It's not that much work. Jeff does the boxes in the morning and I clean them at night. Combing them is like petting them, but with a comb in your hand - they luuuurve it and will coming running and meowing when they see the comb in hand. Vacuuming is easy breezy because our apartment is small and hard wood floors.

It's probably more work to have three cats in a big house, actually.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

I tend to think our apartment is fairly clean for having two cats, though the couch is pretty telling (way to go, us, for getting a velvety dark couch!). I sweep alot to find kittens (ie: dust bunnies).

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

I left my sleeping bag out over some chairs to air it out a bit and the cat found it. Now she refuses to sleep anywhere else but in a little tiny ball in the center of it. It's cute, but I think I want to put the thing away eventually. She does the same thing with my shell jacket... anything made of smooth nylon/GoreTex is like a fucking magnet for her.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

Wolfie likes paper bags. And hardcover books.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Kr (last night in bed): How attached are you to this sleeping bag?
J: Why, is it not warm enough? Are you uncomfortable?
Kr: Well, it's...
J: Cuz I have another sleeping bag.
Kr (cracks up laughing)
J: What?
Kr: I think I'm going to buy you a blanket.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

haha awesome

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

John, I think you should change your name to that entire sketch.

Lucy is happy because our stack guitar amp is currently residing in the living room. She gets to sit up really high and dig her claws into the tuck & roll lining.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

I fell asleep with Wolfie on my back last night.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

I really should have washed the sheets before Jesse came back into town. He's sleeping in a fair amount of cat hair right now, a priveledge I normally reserve only for myself.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

Work is so slow today! I only really have one thing I'm supposed to be working on, but I'm waiting on a vendor for more information first. BORED! I feel like I should at least be doing something productive in my personal life, but nothing comes to mind.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:11 (nineteen years ago)

Which is greater crime against humanity:

http://shopperati.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/crocs.jpg
Crocs

or

http://www.womens-fashion-boots-shoes.com/images/uggs/lilac.jpg
Uggs

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

What is so bad about Uggs? I thought it was just because they were so ubiquitous among Trixies.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

My problems with Ugg Boots:

1. They look like house slippers, and thus should remain in the house.
2. They seem to be the preferred tool for habitual violators of the Weather Appropriate Clothing Rules.
3. They make people's ankles look like inflated suede balloons.
4. Cost : quality ratio.
5. They get filty dirty within minutes of going outside, because they are fucking house slippers.
6. The worst for me is that people who wear them also seem congenitally unable to pick up their fucking feet when they walk so that they just scuffle and slop down the street with maddening slowness.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

My sister luvs teh Crocs.

I think both choices are ugly as shit.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago)

Personally, I would vote Uggs off the island because Crocs have some practical occupational applications and I don't want to deny nurses and cooks the right to wear comfy shoes. Uggs have no functional use what so ever, except as house slippers.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

I'd say Uggs. At least Crocs are cute on kids.

I have a pair of fake Uggs from target that my mom got me. They are light lavendar and even though they are target, I don't like to wear them because they'll just get dirty looking.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

I prefer my house slippers to be less cumbersome and easier to remove than BOOTS, therefore, Uggs for being bad at the only job they have: to be house slippers.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

I am usually the champ-peen of comfortable but ugly shoes. And so I will defend Crocs, but not when people wear them outside of the workplace.

Nothing against Sister Martin.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Meh, she's kind of a hippy anyway. :)

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

I have never even noticed Uggs in my life. My only experience with them is female friends of mine bitching about them. I do see people wearing Crocs, though.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder, John. Why are you able to see Crocs but not Uggs? Are you suede-blind?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

It is cold out. I'm SO looking forward to sitting on the couch under a comforter watching Lost tonight.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

I predict a pitiful turnout for my class tonight.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'm getting into the idea of Crocs. I meant to buy some this summer, kind of forgot, but I think they'd be really good for my bad feet.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

NO LAUREL DO NOT DO IT.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

How about some Birkenstock clogs? They have many benefits over Crocs, such as not having holes in them and not being made of rubber and not coming in hideous colors.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

No, actually Birks don't have enough protection for my heelstrike, plus the point of Crocs is that they can be washed with dish soap and never be smelly.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

when we were in hawaii a few years back jen went into a shoe store to find some flip flops. the sales dude sold her on the crocs because they wouldn't get cut up by the volcanic rock like regular flip flops would. she said they were comfortable but she never wore them in public for the most part. i think they later became the shoes she wore in the shower at the gym.

uggs are laughably hideous.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

I wonder, John. Why are you able to see Crocs but not Uggs? Are you suede-blind?

Crocs are made of rubber or plastic or whatever and have holes in them! Uggs probably just look like any old boot to me. I mean, suede, leather, what's the difference. As such, it's hard to view them as a scourge.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I could get away with wearing Crocs in public, but I really like the idea of them.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

Uggs don't look like any boot *I* would ever contemplate wearing...and I've got a lot of boots.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

i would consider wearing them if it were part of some larger wooly-mammoth ensemble.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.funstuffnow.com/images/ugg-boots.jpg

I'm struggling to see what's unusual about these, apart from being pink.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

I guess crocs are cool for jobs with lots of standing, but I hate them aesthetically. They're ugly and I don't find them comfortable at all.

(my friend Ev4n wears them constantly)

Uggs don't bother me as much because I'll never be faced with wearing them myself.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

Like, I mean, here's some sheepskin boots from New Zealand. What's the difference?

http://www.sheepskin-boots.net/images/sheepskin-boots.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

maybe it would clear things up to know that though uggs look like winter boots, they do not actually outfit your feet for winter protection. they're just like foot blankets.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:08 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.warmbatdirect.com/wbdbanners/model_roo_blue_lace_up.jpg

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of boots, the N0rth F@ce hikers I got before Alaska kick so much ass.

xpost: yaaaaaaaaahhhhgirlontherightwtffffff

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not saying there aren't reasons to dislike them -- especially not practical reasons like that. I'm just trying to understand how they look any different from any other boot on the market such that people get exasperated at seeing them everywhere and criticize them on aesthetic terms.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

They look like mukluks to me. Very non-functional mukluks.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

They're like those bags that everyone has -- the quilted grandma bags. I don't know the name of them, but they are EVERYWHERE and therefore become loathsome in their ubiquity. I guess?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, but Jay, those other sheepskin boots are ALSO hideous for all the same reasons as the Ugg brand. THESE are boots:

http://www.kennethcole.com/img/prod/KC_KL40203_exp_det.jpg

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:12 (nineteen years ago)

AMANDA, VIRGINA BRAD-SOMETHING. BRADLEY? I HATE THOSE QUILTED CALICO THINGS.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Now imagine that ding dong in the teeny miniskirt and giant blue boots scuffling sluggishly along ahead of you on a crowded street while you rush to run an errand during your just barely long enough lunch break.

JOHN! Come on, son. Even if you don't harbor the same irrational hatred of the style that I do, Uggs look different from other boots. This is like insisting that you can't tell the difference between a Mini Cooper and a VW Beetle because they are both small novelty cars.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

OMG there was a girl at the abbey saturday night in a grey skirt and black boots who was so amazing i almost fell off my chair. dark hair, black turtleneck, sparkly eyes. whooo.

uhm, back to your boot discussion.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah! Quilted and calico -- Bradley sounds right? I didn't know they had a name til my friend from Akron told me. Why are those bags so popular? Are they popular because they're popular?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, but Jay, those other sheepskin boots are ALSO hideous for all the same reasons as the Ugg brand.

Really? They look like good sturdy boots to me.

The boot that Laurel posted is hideous.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sort of ashamed to say that despite the boots I find the short skirt one attractive. The other one is a raging turn-off though.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) It's such a perfect visual representation of the word "lady," it makes me flinch.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

OK, JAYMC are NUTZ.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

I M NOT ARGUING ABOUT STYLE WITH JMZ ON TEH INTERNETS

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

seconded.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.artofeurope.com/toulouse/tou2.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, do people seriously wear things like that? They seem impractical, what with the heel and them coming up to what must be your knees.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

The quilted bags also irk me because they appear impractical. They don't look waterproof, or even water resistant, or the least bit durable. And they would probably fade if you washed them. And they are really expensive! What's the point?

I guess rich people don't need to worry about the point.

I am also irked by brown Burberry plaid, but that's just the ubiquity.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

They seem impractical, what with the heel and them coming up to what must be your knees.

you should've seen the girl at the abbey...

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Jay, the world of woman's footwear is a varied and subtle place. Jenny was OTM with the VW versus Mini thing.

WHAT? ARE YOU NUTS OR IS CHICAGO A BIZARRO LAND WHERE NO ONE WEARS BOOTS???!E@!#$

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

My ex had a pair of boots like that. More than once, she lost her balance and fell over while taking them off. I roffled, but that got me in trouble, of course.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

The Toulouse-Lautrec print occupies a weird space in my head full of images from early childhood, since we had that in our house. It's the sort of thing that likely to come to mind when I'm stoned, full of weird associations. Does that happen to anyone else? Probably every other time when I'm high, I go through this visual free-association that includes my mom, Wilma Flintstone, and a fork.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

Haha, sorry, that was an XP to John re the "impractical" comment. Didn't you notice that I wore, like, 3" heeled black boots when I saw your band play here? Yeah, that's pretty much normal for New York.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

IS CHICAGO A BIZARRO LAND WHERE NO ONE WEARS BOOTS???!E@!#$

i think it's down to me and this one girl at the abbey.

in other news they blocked flickr at work for me.

later gators. off to smoke and read.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

Those boots are neither difficult to wear nor are they impractical. Give me (1) break.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

uggs were at the height of their popularity like 2-3 yrs ago, right? why are we still talking about them? they've totally gone past saturation point.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny has a boner for hating them.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Jay, the world of woman's footwear is a varied and subtle place.

If it's so subtle, then don't be surprised I don't notice the differences.

Didn't you notice that I wore, like, 3" heeled black boots when I saw your band play here?

Nope. No offense, but I wasn't looking at your footwear.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Actually the Kenneth Cole brown boots are kind of sensible, in the scheme of things; "impractical" boots would be higher-heeled and skinnier than that. I was considering buying them as my sturdy fall-to-winter wear. :D

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

When I worked at NU's bookstore 2 years ago every single girl that walked in the place was wearing uggs. At their best they make girls look like snow princesses. But at the pt. at which every single woman is wearing them, they just grate.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

Those boots are neither difficult to wear nor are they impractical. Give me (1) break.

I think Dan's comment should speak for itself -- but I mean, c'mon, they're heels. Sure, if you're a woman you get to used to wearing them from time to time, but you can't tell me that there's a practical reason for it.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:25 (nineteen years ago)

At their best they make girls look like snow princesses.

See, that's kind of hot. Cute, even. Better than looking like a high-cheekboned hooker.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

Many Chicagoans wear similar boots. I, personally, avoid heels that high for a number of health and safety-related reasons, but when I walk outside the office at five, I'm betting there will be a lot of similar boots out there.

deej, I go to law school in a building full of undergraduate business students. Please tell them all that Uggs are over because somebody missed the announcment. They are fucking everywhere, still. Mocking me. Diverting energy that I could use for, say, my worker justice boner.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

In all my years on this earth, if I have learned one thing, it is that you cannot predict what women will put on their feet and why.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

I like girls in boots. I should've seen that girl at the Abbey.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Better than looking like a high-cheekboned hooker.

I'm gonna assume you're not talking about me, there, mostly because I know I don't have high cheekbones.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Not talking about you. Just what the boot you posted makes me picture. (You're also not a hooker.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

No self-respecting hooker would wear those boots, though, they're way too drab.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

I'm also what one's choice of footware has to do with maxillofacial bone structure.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

Or I don't know, it doesn't even have to be a hooker.

It's more like TS: Snow princesses vs. ice queens

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, that was clever.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago)

Snow princesses who are secretly only 15 years old versus every woman over 20 in the Tri-State area, more like! I mean, the only reason I continue to belabor this argument is that the reality of "average" boot styles is pretty much opposite what you seem to think altho if you are only speaking for yourself then of course please go on.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

I need some low-heeled, waterproof, work-appropriate brown boots.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

I don't get the "secretly only 15 years old" comment.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

No Foley

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

The Ugg-wearing snow pricess demographic is in jr. high school.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you said business-school students wore Uggs.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

http://alapoisoncenter.org/images/officeruggcy.gif

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

Something about the total descrip gives me the impression that other Snow Princess qualities would be "vulnerable" and "childlike", that's all. Which a) creeps me out and b) may in fact be your personal preference but is hardly representative of most women who are shopping for/wearing leather foot coverings of one kind or another.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago)

I did, and they do. I guess at my age, everybody under 20 looks the same to me.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oooh-kay.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, you just compared my choice of footwear to that of a hooker.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't the main demographic behind uggs the sorority/Paris Hilton crowd? Hence the college students and also the hate?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) It's not like Uggs have all manner of Sanrio characters frolicking about on the sides of them.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't the main demographic behind uggs the sorority/Paris Hilton crowd? Hence the college students and also the hate?

Yeah, see, I took this as a given and understandable. But people apparently have aesthetic problems with them as well.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Man, Ian Curtis really can't sing, can he?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

Disclosure: I owned and used a Chococat wallet for about six months while in my 30s. I stopped using it because I was having trouble taking myself seriously as a grown American woman with an accessory depicting a cartoon character, even a cute chracter one who bears a striking resemblance to my cat Francie.

That said, I can see where there's something childish about Uggs, but it will take me a minute to work out exactly why I feel that way.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

Why would I know who Ian Curtis is?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

Dude from Joy Division.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:56 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago has its own The Lex!

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

jk

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

Dude from Joy Division.

Joy what?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago has its own The Lex!

Nah, she's teasing me.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm. Uggs have an utterly soft and unthreatening vibe...they remind me of those oversized cartoon feet that Hummel figurines always have, because they don't fit closely and always appear to be falling off. Plus they're not actually waterproof and they collect dirt and smudges IMMEDIATELY as suede always does, so they're not even very good at being "practical" footwear, which is annoying.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

It's been a pleasure picking on you Johann, but these Uggs are made for walkin'. We're going to Crew tonight to watch Project Runway so if any of you care about Project Runway or gays or sports bars or Jesse or beer or fun, please join us. Call Jeff or Jesse for times.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:02 (nineteen years ago)

Uggs have an utterly soft and unthreatening vibe...they remind me of those oversized cartoon feet that Hummel figurines always have, because they don't fit closely and always appear to be falling off.

Laurel comes through! I couldn't have said it better myself.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'm late to this argument, but what's not to understand in the following equation:

suede + snow = bleeech.

Uggs are not only horribly dowdy-looking (to use a Tim Gunn word), they lose even more points for being totally impractical for their intended use. Less like a Mini Cooper than a Karmann Ghia.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

Plus there's just that clumsy-baby-animal thing about them. It says "incapable". In that way I equate Ugg boots with fashion photographs taken of grown women with their feet toed in and their hands clasped behind them, as if they're 7 years old and feeling shy.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

I thought we all liked baby animals...?

Uggs are not only horribly dowdy-looking (to use a Tim Gunn word), they lose even more points for being totally impractical for their intended use. Less like a Mini Cooper than a Karmann Ghia.

Who is Tim Gunn? What is a Karmann Ghia?

I've been meaning to go to Crew for the last quarter-century, but I've got band practice.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

i donno i'm not the one to defend uggs because i've been complaining about them for a couple years now but i do remember them looking good on someone at some point.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Sure! We like baby animals because they're cute and helpless and have huge eyes and NEED US (or rather, their mommies) to take care of them, traits that are largely (if not completely) maladaptive in adult human beings.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:12 (nineteen years ago)

What is a Karmann Ghia?

http://www.dyna.co.za/cars/1957_VW_Karmann_Ghia_Red_sf11.jpg

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:13 (nineteen years ago)

I've discovered the greatest website ever: http://www.bobbyrock.com

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, now I'm confused.

Laurel, you say that Ugg boots convey an overly cutesy baby-animal look.

But Kenan says the problem is that they look dowdy. Which makes me think of middle-aged women.

And while I admit I am attracted to the cutesy baby-animal aesthetic, I didn't even sense this from Uggs at all until deej mentioned the "ice princess" thing. I still maintain that they look just like normal boots -- probably not solid enough for hiking, but not all fashionista with heels and zippers, either.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

In high school I bought his 80s drumming video that is ranked as the funniest/campiest I've ever seen, and now he has vegan bodybuilding and hypothetical erotica!

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

PS to women: You can buy cute things without necessarily looking like you're in junior high school.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

THANX JAYMC.

women everywhere (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.bobbyrock.com/images/topkit2.jpg

Good morning.

I love boots. I broke out my dark brown ankle boots this morning! And beige tights! WOO HOO!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:14 (nineteen years ago)

Dumb question alert! How do you, using html, put a picture to the far right/left of your text (wrapped tight)...?

I have some tall (high heel) black boots that I LOOOOVE. I also have tall flat black boots which are better for dealing with actual snow.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

it's been close to 10 years since i've used html on a regular basis but i'm guessing you'd use ALIGN=LEFT/RIGHT/CENTER?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/26/57542538_b66598c0e8_m.jpg

I use p align = " center " all the time, so that makes sense, but I wasn't sure if it would wrap the text. I'll let you know! Don't hold your breath!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

Ok. Didn't wrap the text. DAMN IT!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

< P > whatever.gif
This text wraps to the right of the image named whatever.gif.< /P >
< BR Clear="all" >

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

The BR Clear all keeps the rest of your text from wrapping around the pic.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

I am not down with the coming of winter. NOT DOWN.

I did get a pumpkin spice latte this morning and I thought of Jenny.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Come back! I promise I'll stop talking about html.

Back to BOOTS!

http://s7ondemand1.scene7.com/is/image/Anthropologie/64501_frt?$thumb128x198$" ALIGN="Left" >
If I were a richie rich, I would totally get me some of these.




Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Nice html work, Sarah! WELL FUCKING DONE!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://s7ondemand1.scene7.com/is/image/Anthropologie/64501_frt?$thumb128x198$
Let's try this again.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

I'm cold. Obviously what I need is MORE coffee.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha. I didn't turn off the text wrapping. Now I will.



Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

Hee. Welcome to Sarah's HTML playground.

Sarah, those are DELICIOUS. I have never allowed myself suede boots because of the dirt/waterspot factor and being against it in a practical way, but we can dream.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

But if I were crazyrichbitchradio I would never have to walk in mud again.

I would also not be opposed to these.

http://s7ondemand1.scene7.com/is/image/Anthropologie/640595_frt?$main220x340$

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

I need SOME coffee. but it's too cold to walk across campus. and i couldn't find my winter hat this morning so i walked to the bus with a wet frozen head. now i have a sinus headache.

BUT TODAY IS GOING TO BE A GREAT DAY.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000003GYH.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:14 (nineteen years ago)

Kevin, Didn't you hear? Hair washing season is over!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

Dudes, It is snowing.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

I have a pair of black tall suede boots. I sprayed them with waterproofing spray so they do okay, although I don't wear them when it's really sloppy outside. I do need some proper brown and black boots, but it's such a pain in the ass to find the correct heel height, price, and weather resistence. Just thinking about it exhausts me.

Assinine thing I heard on the elevator this morning: "I love living out there. We have a really huge garage. The only problem is that the house is too small. I just have too much Halloween stuff!"

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

Wha? Snowing?!?!?!???

Man. I know i said I was tired of summer, but what I really wanted was autumn. I didn't want to go straight into winter!

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

THE BEST SINGLE OF 2006:

http://www.shatteredrecords.net/jackocoversmall.jpg

seriously, the a side is the best song i heard this whole year. came out in may and has been kicking my ass ever since.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

Woah. On my list of things to do today was "call to reschedule dentist appointment next week", because I have to do this mid-day rehearsal instead. The dentist's office just called me, UNPROMPTED, to see if I could come in today instead. I should buy a lottery ticket.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

"clear:all" works, but again, I will rep for the style tag.

<img style="float:left; margin-right:10px;">This is teh text.</p>

If you float to the right, set the left margin instead of the right. To keep the text from butting right up against the picture.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:22 (nineteen years ago)

also, lol at that pic of nick and sarah. I'd forgotten about that.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

oh! should be

<img style="float:left; margin-right:10px;" src="http://url.com/pic.jpg">

Not much happens without the image source.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/26/57542538_b66598c0e8_m.jpg

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

Btw Sarah, I finished Brick last night and I looooooved it.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome. It's good stuff.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

Today I am sad to have left my wonderful bed with new down pillows on it, but happy to have responsibilities and good-for-me plans and a clean room w/ DVDs to go home to. If I were back there already, my day and whatever it holds would already be over, and that'd be kind of a shame, so I guess I'll just have to anticipate.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:39 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like listening to Christmas music.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:47 (nineteen years ago)

Instead, we have Led Zeppelin IV playing in the office. Not very snowy, but it'll do.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:48 (nineteen years ago)

THE FUCKING AIR CONDITIONING IS BLOWING OVER MY DESK!!!

no wonder i'm sick all the time.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, we didn't get to watch Lost last night so I'm going to have to call in a favor and ask that nobody speak of it in my presence, either virtually on this thread or right to my face at Old Timer's.

Speaking of last night, those of you who did not come to Crew to watch Project Runway missed a German drag queen and a lot of well-built men in their underwear walking on the bar.

OMG air conditioner??? BOO!

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, I'm sure the air conditioner is the reason you're sick all the time.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

I love high-heeled boots that are also secretly sturdy and comfortable. My favorite pair are brown sturdy leather lace-up grannies that go all the way to my knees. What makes them so fabulous is that, unlike a lot of laceup boots on the market today, these boots were made when women were expected to actually LACE THEM UP -- there's no cheater zipper. Just really long shoelaces, 20 eyelets and some little hooks at the top. And a very long tongue. (hehe)

In other news, some of my students saw their first snow in class this morning!

The Milkmaid is not a hooker (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

They also have a round toe and a heel that is neither too low nor too high.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, we didn't get to watch Lost last night so I'm going to have to call in a favor and ask that nobody speak of it in my presence, either virtually on this thread or right to my face at Old Timer's.

didn't see it either so i second what jenny's saying.

Yes, I'm sure the air conditioner is the reason you're sick all the time.
it's not helping.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago)

One of my coworkers just came up to my desk and said the heat wasn't on in my area of the office, but he just turned it on for me. Thanks!

I'm on my third hot drink of the morning (coffe, hot cocoa, tea).

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, Sarah, Sarah. You should know not to mix!

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago)

OMG LOST YOU GUYS!!! LOST LOST LOST!!!

LOST!

Yeah, I saw it, but thanks for the heads-up. I will try to keep my mouth shut.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:07 (nineteen years ago)

I have never seen ONE SINGLE MINUTE of Lost -- and here is a short paragraph describing what I think it's about and what little I know about it. (a la Mister Feeny)

[clears throat]

Lost is a television program that is based on a group of people who are stranded on an island. This enables them to wear skimpy clothing and display their lean muscular supremacy over the rest of us. The people stranded on the island represent a cross-section of humans, including a guy from the Middle East named Saeed who is non-threatening. Other characters include the father-brother from Party of Five and that girl who was in the girl-boxer movie. The plot is very intricate and may involve a polar bear and aliens. This show is so good that people plan their lives around it, but this also enslaves them. This enslavement is a subtle part of the show's grand philosophical message, which has not fully revealed itself to us yet. The end.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

I THIRD THE IXNAY ON THE OST-LAY. AND IT WILL BE THIS WAY AT LEAST UNTIL KR IS DONE WITH HER BUSINESS SPANISH CLASS, AT WHICH POINT SHE CAN VIDEOTAPE THE EPISODE WHILE SHE IS AT HOME AND WE CAN WATCH IT AFTER BAND PRACTICE.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

See?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

OKAY BUT WHAT ABOUT UGGS? MORE LIKE FUGGS AMIRITE?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

LOL TOTES

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

I love Nu-noize-Chicago.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

I NEED GLUBS.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

I always need glubs. I have stop-gap ones but I think I have lost or worn out all my nice pairs.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

I hope I don't need them in NY this weekend! Because I don't have them. I have three dresses and two pairs of shoes in my bag, but no gloves. Good move.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

I want some vagrant mittens for playing bass when my hands are cold.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago)

I gave out a coworker's cell number yesterday out of spite because the client couldn't reach her. BWAH HA HA! (and I just got told not to do that in future - noted!)

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

what the hell is jesse talking about?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know! Bizarre.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

maybe his computer is acting up. i used to have boots like these

http://www.takkens.com/uploads/santanamontigoblt.gif
but i lost them. i'm not sure how you lose boots, but i succeeded.

the heat in my apartment is turned up to like 90 degrees. the landlord said he'd stop by but i'm not sure what he can do other than opening the window a bit wider to let htat refreshing 30 degree air in.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, there's nothing to be done. Some buildings are just like that. I told one of my coworkers about the blistering, lip-cracking heat I woke up to at 4am, and he just said, yeah, I was in a building like that last winter. I always had to have a window open, no matter how cold it was outside.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

no heat in my apartment. must get space heater.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.catronfashion.com/amber3.gif

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

NO heat?? Does the house above you have heat? Yikes.

AMANDA, WHOAH GRILL.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

I can't stop looking at that picture! The BRAIDS.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

is that dog going as "half breed" era cher for halloween?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

That dog is your private dancer.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

A dancer for money.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Tina Turner?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

She'll be who you want her to be.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago)

The weather is weirder and weirder. It's snowing, rainy, and sunny.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

You're all cunty and I'm busy.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:38 (nineteen years ago)

I'm guessing that was Jesse right there.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

Bumpersticker hell: My Other Cunt is a...?

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

xpost seconded

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, his style is inimitable.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

It's funny -- when Jesse says filthy things, it's funny not primarily because it's filthy, but because it's just sooo Jesse. If I went around talking about shit and saying cunt all the time, it would not be funny. It would just be freakin' gross.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:45 (nineteen years ago)

I just threw myself on the Panera train.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

I would think it was funny, Kenan. But that's just how I roll.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

It was a big TO DO. They (the 2 biotches) sighed and said I GUESS you can order with us. But THAT's IT! NO ONE ELSE! Don't tell anyone!

It is important to note that only 2 coworkers are being excluded. They are going to potbelly together.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:48 (nineteen years ago)

My youngest sis is a self-proclaimed liar. Should I believe her?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:49 (nineteen years ago)

OH!!!!!

Oh.

I thought you said you threw yourself on the Pantera train. After closer inspection, your second comment makes a lot more sense.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

I am about to throw myself on the Crazy Train if this room doesn't warm up.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah, if your other sister always tells the truth, I think we can work this out.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

So what are the odds that Courtney is going to want to go hear premier Critical Race scholar D3rrick B3ll speak tomorrow?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

Not knowing Courtney, I would say 50/50.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

XXP: Ahahahahahha. APPARENTLY JENNY'S LIFE IS LABYRINTH.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 12 October 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, can you explain critical race theory to me again? It sounds like something I would be interested in, or would have been interested in when I was in college.

At 6 PM tonight I will be going to the Shamrock Club at the corner of Wells and Kinzie. If the happy hour fizzles out early, I will repair to Old Timers, but if it carries on into the night with much merriment, you are encouraged to leave Old Timers and meet me there. I will keep you apprised.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

..until time for the rock show.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

Was that time ever determined? Just wondering, a friend or two may be coming along.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

Yes and no. It's supposed to start at 9. There are three bands. We're playing last.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

As for my sister, I think she's a compulsive liar. Is that the right term? She lies about COMPLETELY RANDOM SHIT. Growing up with her was difficult sometimes, because she would lie about stuff like whether or not someone called, for apparently no reason.

Of course, my other sister talked on the phone WHILE ASLEEP, so...

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds like my ex girlfriend. The lying, I mean.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, little bitterness seeping through there.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:20 (nineteen years ago)

I love Amanda's Lost summary.

It is COLD outside. I know my energy bill is going to be $$$ this winter, 'cause I am a pussy and I want a warm, cozy apartment.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

But natural gas prices are down. Take heart!

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

And despite this morning's little show, it's supposed to be a relatively mild winter. Colder than last, but still on the mild side.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Every winter here is mild.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

From what I hear, the three winters I have seen in Chicago ain't been shit. I have no way of knowing if that's true, or if Chicagoans just like to brag about how bad their weather is. Bit of both, I'd guess.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Way to tempt fate, guys.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

BRING IT ON

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

We have this discussion once a year. People who fear the cold and the dark and see autumn not as an explosion of color but as a last gasp of nature before it becomes brittle, dead, and inhospitable VS. people who say "Bring it on".

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

(I am the latter.)

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just saying: cold/snow/ice -- it doesn't bother me all that much. The getting-dark-at-4:30 bothers the shit out of me. Stupid eastern edge of Central Time.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:00 (nineteen years ago)

From what I hear, the three winters I have seen in Chicago ain't been shit. I have no way of knowing if that's true, or if Chicagoans just like to brag about how bad their weather is. Bit of both, I'd guess

my first winter here was the snowiest on record in chicago and honestly, it was tame. it was way mild by new england standards. but jesus tapdancing christ does it get cold here. last year wasn't too bad and winter (usually) doesn't last as long here but shit, in short bursts it can be brutal. it's not edmonton or anything but you know what i mean.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

The getting-dark-at-4:30 bothers the shit out of me

I hate this, too.

Last year's winter, as I recall, was exceptionally mild. I think I only wore gloves three or four times. (I don't like gloves.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

my first winter here was the snowiest on record in chicago

Was this 1998-99?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:07 (nineteen years ago)

Cuz if so, you're wrong.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

I'm very bad at winter wear. I never own a hat and rarely have gloves around. Hoodie + somewhat insulated jacket get me through.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

I remember 2000-01 being pretty snowy, too. I left my car near Kelsey's apartment for a few days, and my dad had to come up and help me dig it out after a blizzard hit.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

That reminds me, I need to get a shovel.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, it was 2000-01. huh, it wasn't even CLOSE to being the snowiest winter.

upon further checking it was the snowiest december in chicago. i remember that "blizzard" and it wasn't much. in boston sometime between 95 and 99 we got 3 snows of over 18" in consecutive weekends. that wasn't counting what it snowed during the week. that blew hard.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

See, that's where I draw the line. I don't need to be thigh-deep in snow. For chrissakes, I'm not a dachsund.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

I'LL BE WATCHING A WEINER DOG IN TWO WEEKS!!!!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

Adversity builds character.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Bring sausage dog to all ILX events.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Hey guys, at the inaugural Thirsty Thursday I mentioned something about my friend K@t|3's burlesque troupe, and there seemed to be some interest. There are two shows for Halloween-time, on the 21st and 28th. Going with a crowd could be fun, but these things sell out quick. I can get a reservation if anyone's interested.

http://www.belmontburlesque.com (mostly NSFW)

BTW: the shows are BYO

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

bring yr own burlesque?

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Bring your own pasties, I think.

upon further checking it was the snowiest december in chicago.

Yeah, that makes sense.

The reason I mentioned 1998-99 was that there was a blizzard a couple of days into the new year. I was in Scotland at the time, but it was notable enough that the Glasgow hotel owner saw fit to mention it to me, since she knew I was from Chicago.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

Katie says you can purchase pasties there if you wish. No word on whether they are used or not.

Also they apparently hold "pasty parties" where interested parties can come learn to make their own.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

How tough can it be?

http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/images/C7134B.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, Wendy O. Williams!

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, I think the trick is not to take the skin off of your nipples in the process.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Electrical tape is probably lower tack that this dress tape I used at a recent cocktail party. Y'know, the stuff you put on your skin to keep skimpy dresses from falling down/off? It's REALLY STICKY.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:52 (nineteen years ago)

Y'know, the stuff you put on your skin to keep skimpy dresses from falling down/off?


yes, i use it all the time when i attend smart cocktail parties at the drake with the cream of north shore society. i find it helps to- OH WAIT, NO I DON'T KNOW.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago, I need new glasses and/or contacts. Reccomendations would be appreciated, esp. if they accept HMO Illinois' shitball insurance.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

xpost I use it to wax.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

fuck if i know dan, i lost my specs back in june and have been wearing an old out of date pair since.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:01 (nineteen years ago)

All of my Chicago eyeball needs have been met by Level Optical on Michigan Ave. I don't know if they're awesome or if they take your insurance, but I don't have any beefs with them.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I was only assuming you had HEARD of dress tape at some point in your life, not that you were all stocked up for use on your BAND TSHIRTS.

Anyway. I'm using a piece of that tape to hold my scarf in place today, and my neck hairs keep getting caught i it. OW OW.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:05 (nineteen years ago)

I've never heard of dress tape.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

That kind of surprises me.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, its existence doesn't surprise me, but I'm not familiar enough with it to nod knowingly when it's brought up, and if you used the term "dress tape" around me without any context, you'd get a blank stare.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

why would I have heard of dress tape?

actually, i did know what it was but was unaware of it's particular stickiness.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

Dress tape is a staple for awards shows like the Oscars.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

That's why I would have figured he'd know about it. And "wardrobe malfunctions" and such.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

Dudes, I know all about dress tape.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

You all know about cock tape, right? Like, when your cock is so huge you have to tape it to your leg? No? No one but me knows about cock tape?

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

you use tape? i just kind of serpentine it around my leg and tuck it into my sock.

there. that's the real reason i don't wear shorts in summer.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

oh yeah, my reason for coming here: TT at old timers? what time?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

because i'm NOT going to uptown tonight.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

Level Optical on Michigan Ave. I don't know if they're awesome

they are awesome. the manager there was really great (i'll just say that i was a challenging customer) and i love my glasses. my roommate has dealt with them lots for work (shopping for costumes for the goodman) and thinks really highly of them as well.

i have no idea how they are with specific insurance plans though.

Juulia (julesbdules), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

most hilarious gmail targeted advertisment today:

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otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

TT at Old Timer's. I'll be there around 5:30, as will Jesse and Courtney.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

I have never used/seen/handled dress tape. I don't have any dresses that my boobings might fall out of. I have a lot of skirts that are inappropriately short, though. Dress tape ain't gonna help me there.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to be on an airplane while you guys are TTing! Yay?!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Have a good time, Amander! Enjoy your adorable dresses and dancing!

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

cool, i'll be there probably a little before you. i think i got there at 5:20 last time?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:32 (nineteen years ago)

You're getting plaid? I'm getting Austrian. Austrian?

True, Amanda, but we all have to work with what we've got. And who cares, anyway, when you'll be in my farir borough by the time we both fall asleep?! IN UR BURRO, TAKIN UR TRANSIT.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

I am SO excited. One more hour here and I'm outie. Then I will be in Laurel's burrito!


(That sounds filthier than I intended it to, but not filthy enough for me to erase it.)

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

not filthy, SEXY.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

and unrelated but i want a bean burrito now.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

SEXY
http://www.littlefriendsranch.com/Burrito%20Boy2.jpg

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Does Level Optical do exams or just sell glasses?

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, Google. Duh.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Lame annoying things I heard on the radio today:

1. This movie critic, Kenneth Turan I think? on NPR this morning on his new book about the death of the "smart studio movie." He thinks art movies have a future, because they are cheap, and he thinks big blockbuster studio movies have a future, but he's worried about the "SMART STUDIO MOVIE." So then they asked him if there were any "smart studio movies" coming up he could recommend and he mentioned "Flags of our Fathers" (and praised Clint Eastwood as the saviour of the "smart studio movie") and that Jamie Foxx/Beyonce girl group '60's movie. So basically, he is worried about the death of the middlebrow. Boo fucking hoo.

2. A bad comedian on talk radio doing this thing about "Those environmental wackos talk about global warming, but it's October 12, and it's snowing ... I think we could use a little MORE global warming blah blah." I hate it when people play dumb about what global warming is to make this stupid point.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

i was snacking on a bag of chips and got to the end. wanting to get every last morsel of chippy goodness i tilted the bag back so i could eat the broken pieces. i tilted too far, too fast and now have ruffles sour cream and onion crumbs in my hair.

looking good chicago, looking good.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yay! They take my insurance, and knock $75 off glasses/contacts.

I don't know why I'm telling you all this!

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

That bad comedian should go to Alaska, where you can almost SEE global warming happening, and even the conservative Repubs are into environmentalism.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

I think we could use a little MORE global warming

This bit has officially joined the ranks of "so I was on a flight from Miami" in the annals of lame, flailing comedy death.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

Then I will be in Laurel's burrito!

(That sounds filthier than I intended it to, but not filthy enough for me to erase it.)

I dunno. It sounds somehow adorable.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

Amanda Asada

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:10 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, because I will go to eat the burrito and it will seem like I"m not going to notice the miniscule, squirming head under all that rice & beans and the audience'll be, like, SUPER nervous, and then SUDDENLY I will hear her tiny cries! And then: FRENDS 4EVA.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:19 (nineteen years ago)

That was weird.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc: Have you read "The Know-It-All"?

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

I can see it now:

Honey, I Shrunk you and made you into a Burrito -- the new feature film from the director of Sheriff

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny: ;__;

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

I have not, Chris, but I'd like to! You will probably not be surprised to know that you are not the first person to mention that book to me, after finding out where I work.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel I lovez you! LOVEZ!

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

So we were discussing this case in Business Organizations class wherein Disney shareholders sued Michael Eisner about the outrageously huge compensation and severence package for some guy named Ovitz and the facts involve a million people with very Jewish names and my friend Rachel IMed me and said, "They should just call this case 'Mountain of Heebs'" and I LOLed in class.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Rachel is a very Jewish name.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

And I replied, "Mtn. of Heebs at 256" and then she LOLed but what I said isn't very funny if you're not familiar with the Bluebook Uniform System of Legal Citation.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

Rachel is Jewish, so she can call the Disney board of directors a "Mountain of Heebs" and it's okay.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) Care to make me familiar? Maybe over a couple of cocktails, sweet-cheeks?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

oh i think we're all familiar with the bluebook uniform system of lega- OH WAIT, NO WE'RE NOT!!!


i've been doing that a lot lately.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

As long as it's still funny....OH WAIT.

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

John, I could talk about uniform legal citation for hours, and I am not joking. I buy the new edition of the Bluebook every year and delightedly read the chapter on updates. I lovez the Bluebook. LOVEZ.

http://www.legalbluebook.com/

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

Is there a chapter on baby names?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

tell it to your mother laurel, I'M OUTTA HERE.

*slams door* [sound of boots stomping down stairs] *outside door slams shut*

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

J., I am utterly not surprised, and it felt a bit trite to bring it up. But I just finished reading it and I liked it (in fact, I felt a little jealous: There goes another book idea I should have come up with first). I think you might enjoy reading about his shall we say relationship with facts (as I did).

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

Ha! No baby names. There is a table of abbreviations for words commonly used in case names.

In a snit, UC released it's own legal citation guide known as the "Maroon Book." Oy. There's also the ALWD, with which I have no beefs even though my school doesn't use it.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

In a snit, UC released it's own legal citation guide known as the "Maroon Book."

Yeah, this doesn't surprise me at all.

The University of Chicago: "(blank) works well in practice, but how does it work in theory?"

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Here is a Wikipedia article about the Bluebook. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluebook

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

That's not a very well-written Wikipedia article.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Blue Book of Heebs

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan can say that because he's a Heeb.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

I pictured my head poking out of the end of a burrito saying, "HIYA!" right as Laurel bit into the other end.

BYE BYE CHICAGO

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

I writing my self-assessment for this past fiscal year and i'm getting the feeling that this must be what it's like to weave the rope for your own execution.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Bye!!!

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Unfortunate x-post.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Thursday, 12 October 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

haha

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Blue Book of Heebs

To calcualte their resale value? Is this what the Egyptians used?

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

Nah it's more for this sort of thing.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Jews be sexin'.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

A company benefit I did not know about: 1/2 off full membership to Fitness Formula Club. And there's a *huge* one on the 6th floor of my building, which will knock out a lot of excuses for not going to the gym.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 20:49 (nineteen years ago)

Oooh. For an extra two dollars I get a full membership to ANY Fitness Formula location in Chicago. I think I'll do that, even if I never go anywhere else. Who knows?

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)

That's a pretty sweet deal.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, no enrollment fees, either. You go to HR, and they take 30-some-odd bucks out of your check and pay the rest. One caveat: you have to go 8 times a month or more. So if you're not using the gym, they're not going to pay for it.

I'm thinking this has something to do with the CEO's son (and Senior VP) being a fitness nut and marathon runner. Or maybe they just know that healthier employees are more productive.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

Cool. There is some minor gym discount through my health insurance, but it's hardly anything.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Kr left work early and is missing class tonight to meet with the maintenance guy so he can fix her oven. He was supposed to show up at 5 PM, and he's not there yet. Calls to the landlady have gone unanswered. You have no idea how frustrated this makes me. (We tried cleaning the oven last night but to no avail.)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 12 October 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago)

I totally just walked up on a guy and gal from the cleaning crew making out.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

HOTT!!!

Laurel (Laurel), Thursday, 12 October 2006 21:54 (nineteen years ago)

John

socks

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 13 October 2006 04:18 (nineteen years ago)

shut up

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 04:24 (nineteen years ago)

chocolate socks?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 04:26 (nineteen years ago)

maybe white chocolate

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 04:57 (nineteen years ago)

JOHN I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH YOUR SOCKS

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 04:58 (nineteen years ago)

fuck the socks, fuck the red line, fuck the north side, fuck it all.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 06:58 (nineteen years ago)

Happy Friday the 13th.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)

Ooh. I hadn't noticed that.

It was colder this morning than yesterday.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah. What's up with that? I thought it was supposed to be a little warmer today.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

So cold.

We're playing an outside parade tomorrow, it's always the coldest gig of the year.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

are there a lot of inside parades where you live jordan?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

I got a text message last night from a certain traveling person who is now IN MY BURRO. Also, Jenny & Jeff: I know you called me once before, but I think I deleted yr numbers or I'd have txted you last night. Soz.

FRIDAY. And cold here, too!! Last night was the first time I haven't used my fan in MONTHS. I love.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 13 October 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

Touche, Herr Otto.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

well, i mean, it could be a small town, small parade in a big building. i was kinda hoping that would be the case.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 12:49 (nineteen years ago)

from a certain traveling person who is now IN MY BURRO.

that reminds me, i did finally get that burrito last night. god bless that place next to the sheridan red line stop. seriously tasty burritos.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 12:50 (nineteen years ago)

We have mini-parades in the Gr33n M1ll.

(btw it looks like we'll be there for Xmas and Mardi Gras)

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

I'm kinda happy it was 32 degrees and windy this morning, because I got a nice wool coat as an early b-day gift from a certain someone, and I was anxious to wear it.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

you can say it kenan, FORMER SENATOR MARK FOLEY BOUGHT YOU A COAT.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha

R U HORNY?

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

haha

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

From the B4ng on a C4n hype e-mail that I just got:

David Bowie on Icebreaker
"I've never seen Icebreaker, but would drive a mile or more to do that thing. Actually I'd get a cab as you can't park in New York City."

Ha, is it me or is that not exactly a ringing endorsement?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

Congressman.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

I was grumpy this morning and just totally took it out on my littlest sister. :-( (via email, of course!)

How was TT?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

How was TT?

it knocked our socks off.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

It's too cold to not wear socks. I wish I could have been there to know what the hell you're talking about.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

i was there and i don't know what the hell i'm talking about.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

I ate healthy things, drank water with lemon juice, and went to bed early. I don't know if I'm happy or sad about that.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Did you go to TT, Kenan? What kinds of healthy things? What does your coat look like? Nick needs a new one.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

Hummus. Lots and lots of hummus.

The coat is soooo nice. It looks a little like the one that belongs to Jesse that I'd been wearing around. Simple black jacket stylee, zipper in front, collar.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:20 (nineteen years ago)

Last time I said something like that everyone came back with ACTUALLY HUMMUS R NOT HLTHY FOR U.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

Ugh. I think my belt smells like Old Timer's.

Those of you who commented upon my Dr. Pepper shirt yesterday evening may be interested to know that I did a load of laundry after midnight last night and today am wearing a more "suitable" (?) polo shirt today.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

I feel totally left out. :-(

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

That's okay, Sarah, so do I. And hey! You can always attend TT next week! I will still be here, twiddling my thumbs................*sniff*

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

(Just kidding, I will totally be drowning my sorrows in beer.)

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

Ah, Laurel. So true.

How much longer are Jesse & Courtney here?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:46 (nineteen years ago)

I think Jesse was supposed to leave this morning, although he was making noises about extending his ticket... so who knows.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:53 (nineteen years ago)

Exotic noises?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

ACTUALLY HUMMUS R NOT HLTHY FOR U

Beats the hell out of pork super nachos.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

The front door is propped open since these guys are working on our design center. I'm pondering putting my coat back on.

Hummus sounds good. I'm having a greek pita today with squash soup.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

What I wouldn't give for falafel. But there's nothing close by here.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:09 (nineteen years ago)

What I wouldn't give for good falafel in this city.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

I am craving those canned orange sweet rolls. Weekend, here I come!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

Huh? Jordan, you can't be telling us there's no decent falafel in Chicago. I'm not even sure what makes falafel GREAT instead of GOOD or OKAY. It's sort of hard to fuck up, isn't it? Places get more points from me for varied toppings, good home-made hummus, pistachio & phyllo pastries that aren't too honeyed.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan doesn't live in Chicago.

Where are you, K?

Here's the deal: We were on the Red Line, and Jesse started making fun of my "droopy white socks," because he felt they were inappropriate to be wearing with the rest of my ensemble, and maybe just time to be thrown out, anyway. Which I loudly and drunkenly disagreed with -- I mean, who the fuck cares about socks? And it's not like they had holes in them or anything. And it's not like I only wear white socks, I have like two pairs of whites and the rest are dark, and I put these on for no other reason than because they were at the top of my drawer -- and therefore caused a ruckus on the train, and eventually people became embarrassed and quietly said "No, John, we love your socks, really." Oh, also, at some point my left shoe and sock were removed from my foot.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Whoops! I forgot that J is the other non-Chicagoan up in here. Still. No good falafel??

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Nah. There are a couple mediterranean cafes and a place called King of Falafel but nothing really good. And that girl that I was hanging with last night was talking about having amazing falafel in Israel and now I have a craving.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

and eventually people became embarrassed and quietly said "No, John, we love your socks, really."

Please tell me these were people other than your friends. You know, just some dudes on the train cowed by your sock freakout.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, also, at some point my left shoe and sock were removed from my foot.

I don't know if you noticed or not, but opening the door and throwing the sock out of the train was also briefly discussed. I'm kind of glad that didn't happen.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

And that girl that I was hanging with last night was talking about having amazing falafel in Israel and now I have a craving.

The real reason Jews go to Israel...

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

no, the other people on the train were NOT digging the Chilx corner of that red line train.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

Jocelyn is also not in Chicago.

I'm hungry!

I am guilty of wearing just white ped socks most of the summer. When it's colder, I wear tall socks in lots of crazy patterns and colors.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

no, the other people on the train were NOT digging the Chilx corner of that red line train.

Really? I wasn't really paying attention to anyone else.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

The dude sitting behind Jesse and Jeff (only non-ilxor in that end of the train) looked really glad to have headphones on! :)

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I suppose Courtney is a non-ilxor, but close enough.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

i'm totally not going out for the next thirsty thursday, these things are fucking me up.

xpost- i was watching the rest of the train when it got too loud to concentrate on my book, there was some definite eye daggers being shot into our end of the car.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

fucking me up to the point of not being able to resolve simple things like verb agreement.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

Apologies, but not really, because Jesse is a bitch. And he knows exactly how to set me off.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:39 (nineteen years ago)

Did you guys end up at another bar after Old Timers?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:40 (nineteen years ago)

some of us wound up at two bars after old timers.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.achewood.com/comic.php?date=10132006

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:51 (nineteen years ago)

Where are you, K?

Clark and Division. And nevermind, I went to Old Jerusalem on Wells. I forgot about that place as a lunch option.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:57 (nineteen years ago)

I went to Old Jerusalem on Wells

the only time i've ever been there i met up with hstencil before an irvine welsh reading. it's obviously been a while.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

I think the last time I was there was with Eazy, either before or after I saw The Squid and the Whale.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:01 (nineteen years ago)

The falafel is good, but I think I still prefer Taste of Lebanon, because the sandwich uses that great extra-garlic-y hummus as a condiment.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:02 (nineteen years ago)

Apologies, but not really, because Jesse is a bitch. And he knows exactly how to set me off.

Over socks? Relax, man. Just take a deep breath and make fun of him for being a big fat-ass. You'll feel so much better.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:04 (nineteen years ago)

Kind of freaking out about the high-school reunion tonight/tomorrow. At the college reunion, even the people I didn't know too well, I could be like, "Oh you're teaching underprivileged children in Brooklyn/doing policy work on Capitol Hill/doing set design for a small theatre in rural Vermont? How interesting." But now I'm afraid I'm going to have to make small-talk with some dude who lives in a one-bedroom apartment in the western suburbs and listens to Korn or something.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

I am never worried that other people are less interesting than me.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

It's not the uninterestingness in and of itself but the fact that there's a huge gulf between my lifestyle and theirs. Presumably. Judging by their MySpace pages, that is.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

the only worry i have right now is that this headache is actually a tumor.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

Even if it is, you have the sweet release of death to look forward to.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

These dolmas were clearly made some time ago and pulled out of a reach-in when I ordered them. I don't expect them to be perfectly fresh, but I don't want them waterlogged and limp, either. Yuck.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

#The Oprah Winfrey Show: What older women should know about the iPod cancer risk.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Wrong thread.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Oprah looked scary on the TV news last night.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

I'm not the biggest fan of Old Jerusalem, to be honest.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

My co-worker Laura brought in some leftover chili that she'd made she other night, and it's delicious. She's from Texas, so she knows how to do it right.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

Wait... isn't Texas chili basically all meat?

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

Usually. But the right mix of spices is u+k to anything called "chili".

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Mos def. And beer. We've had this discussion before.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:02 (nineteen years ago)

What's up with Oprah?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

She brought in cornbread, too. I'm a hopeless Northerner -- I don't think I've had chili this spicy before.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

shhhhhh

xpost

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

I could go for some spicy chili. Cumin!

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago)

All right, I'm in. Now what?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Capsaicin!

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of which, I think Kenny deserves some treats. I think I will buy him some whole jalapenos. You should see him go after one of those things. Pure bird joy.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

He also seems inordinately interested in red wine, but I don't want to be responsible for a drunk bird.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

I can't believe how far behind I am on this thread.

It's a damn good thing I didn't get to extend my stay in Chicago like I wanted to because I totally forgot until just now that I am going to be manning a booth at some kind of |slamic Hum@nitari@an Daze. Because I'm gay and a bottom, I will have to wear a burqa.

I'm in Charlotte, NC. The flying was cluster-fucky this morning. What is up with this "United Flight xxx, operated by USAir"? NOWHERE did I see anything telling me that I had to check in at USAir. It was on the UNITED departures screen, but on a USAir jet in the USAir terminal.

I had to fly standby on a Friday, so I'm damn lucky.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.alternet.org/images/managed/Blog+Image_thumb_drinkycrow.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:26 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, last time I flew it was like "American Airlines operated by [name of an airline they clearly made up last week]".

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:27 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan.
DO
NOTTTTT

GIVE KENNY

ANY OF THE

TORTILLA CHIPS
THAT I BOUGHT.

THEY CONTAIN

AVOCADO

WHICH WILL MAKE HIM SICK, OR DEAD.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:29 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, birds can't eat avocado? I had no idea.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

and DO NOOOOOTTOTOTOTOTTTTTT GIVE HIM ALCOHOL!

NO ALCOHOL, NO AVOCADOES.

Avocadoes contain an enzyme that can be fatal to him. Maybe just parrots.

ALSO---BE VERRRRRY CAREFUL WHEN USING TEFLON AROUND HIM. DON'T USE IT IN THE SAME ROOM AS HIM.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)

God I hope I didnt' leave my laptop cord in Chicago. If I did I'm going to need someone to overnight that fucker.

KENAN--- WILL YOU CHECK AROUND THE COUCH and in FRONT OF THE BEDROOM CLOSET?

Thanks.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse: ok on all counts.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Hi, JESSE.

BORING GRIPE STORY:
The guy that just called has been calling constantly trying to talk to two different people. Whenever I transfer him to someone who doesn't pick up their phone (might be away from their desk, but I know they are in the office), he dials zero to tell me, "Excuse me, but you just told me so-and-so is in but I got her voice mail..." So I think he's a douche. He's been calling about once every couple of hours for the past few days. Anyway, the same thing just happened again. Then I went and tracked down one of the coworkers and told him I'd be transferring the call. Then I come back up and get on the line with this guy and tell him, "So and so is at his desk and ready for your call," and douche says, "Do you think maybe you could transfer me?" DUH! YOU DUMBAROO!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry. That story was lame. I'm sleeeepy.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

Could you stop answering the phone? Our receptionists do that sometimes, if the same number calls back repeatedly and refuses to be helped with anything. Do you have caller ID?

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

O'Hare was all backed up today because of some stiff winds. Taking off was skeery. We did a little undesireable loss of altitude a couple of times.

I'm SO sleepy.

This is the worst vacation ever.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

BTW, the tall white guy in Timberlands was laughing with us.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:51 (nineteen years ago)

What's up with Oprah?

I'm not sure, but she was getting out of a limo and doing something with Bono on the news (the sound was off) and they both just looked kind of unwell. And cold.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I should provide some context there to make this make sense, but I kind of like it how it stands now!

(i was referring to the non-Chilx guy on the train who was enjoying our conversation)

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

It's part of Bono's Product Red campaign -- although I'm not sure exactly what that is. Something to do with AIDS.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:56 (nineteen years ago)

http://media1.suntimes.com/nixoncds/image/20061012_17_49_41_396-282-400.imageContent

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

is ilx being weird for anyone else?

when i post and then click 'return to thread' it takes me back to the thread as it existed before i made my post, sometimes to a point 2 or 3 posts before even.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc: yes, AIDS in Africa. Bono has convinced people he whores for to have a special "red" product line for which all of the proceeds will go to Africa. I *want* that red leather jacket from the Gap.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 17:59 (nineteen years ago)

You HAVE TO wear the red AIDS jacket.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:00 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I want *a* red leather jacket anyway. The Gap website doesn't list the jacket from the ads as an actual product that they offer. Just a bunch of crappy $30 t-shirts. Gap, you had me, and then you lost me.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe it's just not available online. Surely they wouldn't have Steven Spielberg wear it in an ad and plaster him all over billboards, and then not carry the jacket.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Sarah Bear, how was your show last night? We decided it would be prudent to make it an early night, and then failed to make it an early night by going to a divey dive near our place. But I was in bed by midnight so that was good.

Guess what Courtney and I just did? GUESS WHAT???

We went to Hot Doug's.

By the time we were finished with our delicious encased meats (I had an Italian chicken sausage and Courtney had a Polish) the line was out the door and down the sidewalk, and it's a damn good thing because we would have gotten more food.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

I can't help picturing Kenan wearing a "Bad" era Michael Jackson-esque jacket with lots of zippers on it.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

With the sleeves pushed up.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

So wait. Bono came to Chicago to give Oprah AIDS?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Exaaaaactly.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Because she's African.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

HOT DOOOOOOUUUUUUGGGGGG''''S

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:13 (nineteen years ago)

I can't help picturing Kenan wearing a "Bad" era Michael Jackson-esque jacket with lots of zippers on it.

No, no... you confuse your Michael Jackson eras. The sleeves-pushed-up is "Beat It" and "Thriller" video Michael Jackson. "Bad" Michael Jackson had a full black motorcycle jacket with all kinda of buckles and shit on it. You can't push those sleeves up.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

Jordan, it was wonderful. And it's Friday so there were duck fat fries. It's not too terribly hard to get to from our house, either. One bus and a few blocks of walking and you are in encased meat heaven.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

We went to Hot Doug's.

holy crap i'd just sent you an email asking about it.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

UUUUUUGGGGGG''''S

Not this again.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:24 (nineteen years ago)

You got the duck fat fries, OMG. Someday I will make this happen.

My jacket is very Michael Jackson-y. No collar, sort of boxy shoulders, stripes down the sleeves. I think it's juuust on the right side of being dorky, but I kinda want a new jacket anyway.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

you confuse your Michael Jackson eras

Fuck, you're right. Give me a break, I was like 6!

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

NO EXCUSES

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of which, was I singing Alice in Chains loudly in Old Timers? I seem to remember something like that.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, "Rooster" I believe. I love funny grunge singer impersonations. See also: Rob Zombie.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)

ha ha

Jenny, thanks for askin'. It was fine. I was grumpy because the turnout wasn't great (11 people came specifically to see our band - the door guy kept track), but I enjoyed the other bands and I like Gunther Murphy's. It was Gerard's birthday (the Ice Fact0ry guy who recorded us) and he decided to spend it at our show! He was really drunk and said a million nice things, so I shouldn't have felt at all grumpy.

The reality is that we spend a CRAZY amount of time doing band stuff, but we suck at promoting ourselves. We set this show up and got the other bands, but only did email/word of mouth/myspace/2 blocks of fliers and then had the usual Gunther Murphy ad in the reader. What we need is to get people to come to our shows who haven't heard us before or at least that we don't know, even though we love seeing friends show up. In order to do that, we have to come up with some sort of game plan. It's draining. I wish I could just do the fun stuff and be able to afford a promoter to figure out the rest of that crap.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

(That was like a million xposts. I was commenting on John's UUUUUGGGSss post.)

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.siste.no/multimedia/archive/00726/20051209-014_jpg_726285h.jpg

Juulia (julesbdules), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

11 people came specifically to see our band - the door guy kept track),

How did he know?

I wish I could just do the fun stuff and be able to afford a promoter to figure out the rest of that crap.

2x

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

One thing that sort of helped my old band (read: got a few unknown faces and a DJ at one of our *two* shows) was when we somehow got played on the local show on XRT. (The DJ that came to the show was the guy whose show it was, and I wouldn't be surprised if he told some people about it.) I don't know how that was accomplished, but there was a definite response. And yeah, XRT might be a little hard to swallow (kinda corporate? I dunno) but, every little bit helps!

xxpost: Yeah Kenan, get that jacket. Although it sounds like you have a pretty nice new one already.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.ods.net/~poohbear/picswa/eisf.jpg

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

What we need is to get people to come to our shows who haven't heard us before or at least that we don't know, even though we love seeing friends show up

From my perspective, one of the easiest ways to do that is to be persistent in getting good shows opening up for bigger bands. A lot of our fans that we don't know personally consist of people who saw us open up for Sloan/Delgados/CYHSY/Devotchka/etc. -- when it's a crowd that big, you can count on at least a handful of people falling in love with you.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

Although you could do without the corpse paint.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:40 (nineteen years ago)

Which also reminds me, I was supposed to make a list of notable blogs to send our CD to.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man that's even better. Precisely like I imagined it.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

As Madison showed, I should stick to playing drums and not be involved in setting up/promoting shows ever.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Are we still not allowed to talk about Lost? I hate the thread.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:45 (nineteen years ago)

I've seen the new ep, but I don't know that others have.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe post in invisible ink like Kenan showed us?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:46 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, our shows with 0ffice and Like Y0ung really paid off. Even people who didn't actually see us play with them saw our name listed WITH them on bills and then seeked out our music figuring it might be similar.*

John, how do you guys score bigger bands? Through the venues or the bands themselves? I contacted O & LY directly, but maybe I should check venue sites more often for open slots..?

* I'm just basing this on random blog posts we've come across.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

Are we still not allowed to talk about Lost? I hate the thread.

i will knee cap you dude. actually, 48 hours is long enough, who the hell am i to say what you can and can not talk about.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:49 (nineteen years ago)

Man, this is like the one show/movie/media phenomenon EVER where I will respect people's anti-spoiler wishes without question or comment.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

We haven't watched it yet, but I should be doing homework anyway instead of being on the internets so if youse guys want to talk about it, go for it.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

but maybe I should check venue sites more often for open slots..?

find out who the talent booker is and get him/her a recording. it will come in handy when the dude is trying to find a similar and/or complimentary sounding bands when putting together a bill.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

Through booking agents at the venues, like Matt Ruc1ns at Schubas, Pete T0als0n at the Bottle, Chris Bar0nner at Metro and Double Door, Derr0n Sw@n at SubT/Beat Kitchen, or independent promoters like Br1an Peters0n of MPSh0ws.

Matt P. writes these dudes on a fairly regular basis, asking about upcoming shows that don't have support listed yet and not being afraid to shoot too high.

I will say, though, that a couple of those really high-profile shows we got were shows that the SYGC were offered and couldn't play, so our connection with N3pt@li paid off there.

And obv Matt used to work for Derr0n, so that connection helps, too.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

And yeah, what Otto said is also true. Once they know who you are, they may start to come to you and offer you shows.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

WHAT'S FOR DINNER, CHICAGO?

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

Probably crappy fast food on the road to Oshkosh. If I was staying home tonight I would go get some fresh fish.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

Leftover seafood salad. I hope I don't get salmonella.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

Whatever's in the fridge. I'm guessing a caprese sandwich, so I can use up the fresh mozzarella before it gets decidedly unfresh.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:15 (nineteen years ago)

Right now I'm thinking my dinner will be beer and cookies. And I can live with that.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, beer is a given.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe post in invisible ink like Kenan showed us?

I don't think that's necessary. Here, I'll sum it all up for you:

blah blah JIN SUN EPISODE blah BACKSTORY WITH NO NEW OR INTERESTING INFORMATION blah blah SAWYER LOVES KATE blah blah ESCAPE ATTEMPT blah blah FOILED! blahbbity blah TUNE IN NEXT WEEK LIKE GOOD LITTLE TEST SUBJECTS.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

I still don't know whether I should go to the bar in Bolingbrook tonight.

PROS
-Might run into friends from a long time ago and have a marvelously nostalgic conversation; might regret it if I find out people were there that I would've liked to have chatted with
-Could spend the night at my dad's place and hang out with him tomorrow

CONS
-People at the bar could all be people I don't care to have a conversation with, leading to much social anxiety
-Various logistical hassles: my dad would have to let me in the house late, I'd have to decide whether I should come back to the city tomorrow before going back for the reunion dinner
-I could spend tonight doing something productive, like writing or watching a movie

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

There are no big reveals, but we do learn a little bit more about Benry in re how long he's been on the island, what kind of contact they have with the outside world, etc.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

Also CON: http://www.tailgatersgrill.com/

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

Watching a mvoie is productive?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Well then I am one productive motherfucker.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)

Right now I'm thinking my dinner will be beer and cookies.

i'm halfway there. my dinner will probably be a couple of ham and provolone san'riches with mustard. maybe some lettuce if it hasn't wilted. and beer. for dessert i will make some tea and wrap myself up in my comforter with my book. i will be content and that's good enough for me, for now.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

When I'm constantly bemoaning how few movies I see, it's productive as hell.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

I just found out one of my cooler coworkers is fronting a jazz combo playing at the Abb3y tonight, no cover. Eeeenteresting...

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

jazzflute.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think that's his style, but I could be wrong. I hope it isn't.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

We're playing at Alliance tonight, which is exciting by itself, but also I LOVE playing shows in our own neighborhood. It's so easy! And I can go home in between things if need be. So dinner might be at home or from somewhere in the hood, like sultan's market maybe...

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Whether watching a movie is productive is kind of a crap shoot. Depends on the movie. I'm defining "productive" as "stimulating you to thought and adding something to your experience of the world".

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

OH GUYS UPDATE ON THE OVEN:

The maintenance dude finally met Kr last night at 9 PM, and Kr said "Okay so can you look at this oven?" and dude said "Oven? Every time I've come over here, I've been told that the problem was the stove." Kr: "What?" Dude: "Yeah, landlady KNOWS the oven is broken."

!!

So then Kr left an angry message on landlady's voicemail and said she was determined to take this as far as it would go, threatened to pursue legal action if need be, etc. etc.

This morning she got in touch with the owner of the building, and he said they'd be replacing the oven ASAP. HURRAH!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

We're playing at Alliance tonight

wha? the bakery??

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)

Oh shit! You guys have two gigs in a row? Damn, so many options tonight!

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Whether watching a movie is productive is kind of a crap shoot. Depends on the movie. I'm defining "productive" as "stimulating you to thought and adding something to your experience of the world".

If it means I can say "I have now seen that movie," then it counts. One thing that I really don't understand is the expression "two hours of my life that I'll never get back" when it refers to popular entertainment. Waiting in line at the DMV is two hours of your life that you'll never get back -- watching a movie, no matter how bad, is not. But I tend to value experience. (There's also something about the "two hours" accusation smacks of spoiled privilege, like ENTERTAIN ME DAMMIT!!)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oh shit, I never returned a movie to Specialty Video that was due last weekend. This is why I don't rent from brick-and-mortar stores -- it's just that my Netflix DVDs hadn't arrived yet.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

One thing that I really don't understand is the expression "two hours of my life that I'll never get back" when it refers to popular entertainment.

Oh, I understand it perfectly. Given the choice of spending two hours watching a movie I found nothing of worth in and learning a few notes on the piccolo, well... See, that's what I mean by "productive". Or laundry! I could have been doing laundry. I really have to do laundry more often.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah I have to go return movies before getting on the road. I still have not given in to Netflix for some reason.

Congrats on the oven, sorta.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

awesome gmail targeted advert of the day:

Exotic Dancer Platforms
Buy Exotic Dancer Platform Shoes
BBB Member Ship WorldWide
Discreet

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

Huh. I just got a call from one of the agencies where I applied for an externship position asking my availability. "For an interview?" I ask. No, for the actual position, which they are offering me without the formality of an interview because the general counsel was "impressed" with my resume.

While that should probably make me feel awesome, it instead makes me not want the externship because how good could it be if they'll hire me just like that?

I think it's actually less about me personally and more because one of the clerks at the firm where I worked externed there last semester and just interviewed for a job there. They want me because they're hoping I'll be another Heidi, I suspect.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:56 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.kidsdomain.com/holiday/halloween/clipart/b-cat3.gif

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c242/perezident3/perks_ben_color.jpg

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

WTG JB!

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)

Based on the past two weeks and those two weeks only, we play a regular gig and then a benefit every week.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

I just woke up in a panic from a looooong nap. It took me like two minutes to figure out that it wasn't morning and I wasn't late for work. I just kept thinking "Oh no the sun is shining really bright, I must be really late, why didn't Sarah wake me up, what's going on, why does the clock say it's 4:00, it's too bright outside to be 4 a.m., what the ... oh wait."

n/a (Nick A.), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago)

if i'm awake i'll go sarah. but i didn't get home until 3-ish so i needs me my beauty sleep.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I've followed a gmail ad link since the one that taught me how to make slippers out of tampons.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

Niiiick, Hi.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago)

i don't believe i've ever followed one. i just like looking at them, seeing what's being *targeted* at me. like exotic dancer platform shoes.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:02 (nineteen years ago)

I hate waking up like that. I do it at least once a week.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

taught me how to make slippers out of tampons

Color me intrigued.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

I hope that's not a recycling project.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

how small do you feet have to be i wonder? oh wait, you probably just lash them together don't you.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

And avoid puddles.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:06 (nineteen years ago)

TS: Uggs as house slippers vs. Tampons as house slippers

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.a-woman.com/images/maxislippers.gif

Those are not tampons. I also take exception to the author's claim that these slippers are biodegradable and environmentally safe, pads being neither.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

vs. uggs as tampons.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

I like the FF poster. A lot.

I want to take a looooong nap this afternoon. I'm not even especially sleepy, I just think it would be nice. It's chilly out, and I can bundle up under the covers and get all cozy and drift away to slumberland where I will meet wizards and giant magic mushrooms.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

i love that they're called "padabouts" though.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

TS: Uggs as tampons vs. house slippers as tampons

XPOST!

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago)

And kitties! The kitties will be chilly, too, and they will nap with me. Oh, bliss.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

If I don't go to the suburbs tonight*, I could potentially come to the FF show. I don't understand how you're playing in a bakery, though. I thought that place was tiny. (I've never been there, only walked past it.)

*someone please decide for me

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

DON'T GO THE BURBS BLOW

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago)

Man, I get busy packing up things to send overseas and I come back to GENERAL ROFFLES. AND I bought a pair of boots from a google ad just the other day, but that episode is still ongoing.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

GO TO THE BURBS.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

xpost ALSO WEAR SOME DECENT SOCKS FOR CHRISSAKES

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

Don't go to the burbs. Wear good socks and go see the FFs and have a delicious cupcake from Aliance Bakery.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

So I pulled a book off of Jesse's shelf for train reading -- "The Breast" by Philip Roth -- and I found I could not read it. It's his version of "The Metamorphosis" by Kafka, and is about a man who suddenly finds himself transformed into a giant breast. It was explicitly detailed and very unsettling. I think some of it was supposed to be funny, but it gave me the leapin' willies. Please keep Philip Roth far away from me, k thanx.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)

Those house slippers would get dirty superfast. They make me shutter with disgust. Can you hear me shuttering?

Alliance is tiny, but they have a seating area (ie: a couple of rooms) next to the bakery now which you enter from outside.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, there are always sullen laptop kids in there stealing peeks at each other. it's like a mini-Filter or something.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

John, you are very brave to go to reunions. I can't imagine ever doing that for any of my 4 high schools or even college. ok, maaaaybe college... It would be a hell of a lot easier if my schools could have their reunions here in Chicago.

Of course, I would like to see you and hang out with you, but I'll understand if you might perfer to see people you haven't seen in 4evuh.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, the college reunion was really fun.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

My high school has never managed to put together a reunion, or if they ever did, nobody ever invited me to it. At this point, I would probably go if I was able to just to see what happened to all those people I used to see all day every day.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

went to 5 year hs reunion, did not go to 10 or 15. will not go to any others.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.diyshutters.com/images/shutters-exterior-bradway-l.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

Yup, that's what I'm most interested in doing. And I would have no problem going tonight if I had a buddy to use as a safety net and to overcome the initial nerves.

(We didn't have a 5-year reunion, so this is the first time I'll have seen some of these folks in 10 years.)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:30 (nineteen years ago)

We didn't have a 5 yr reunion, I would consider going to a 10 yr.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Supposedly our 10-year reunion is Xmas time this year. I personally don't give much of a shit about it, but one of my AK friends is seizing on the opportunity to come home and make some money by going and bartending at the place he used to work back in the day, and he will clean up on tips because that is the bar where everyone will be. I gotta say, I like his style.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

I wanted to go to my 10-yr, but I couldn't make it home at Thankgiving for financial reasons. Then later I saw photos and realized there wasn't anyone there I would have wanted to talk to, anyway -- everyone I'd be interested in seeing DOESN'T LIVE IN WHITEHALL ANYMORE. And everyone who WAS there looked almost exactly the same.

Laurel (Laurel), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

everyone I'd be interested in seeing DOESN'T LIVE IN WHITEHALL ANYMORE.

replace whitehall and yeah, that was it in a nutshell.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm afraid that this'll be true for me as well. I mean, I don't really keep in touch with that many people from my class, and the ones I would like to see are currently in Boston or Seattle or wherever. My friend Katy is flying in from Dallas or Philadelphia or wherever she lives now, but she'll only be there for tomorrow night.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 13 October 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

May I have your attention please.

It is 70 degrees in New Orleans. I have a pretty huge room at the Jesuit place, right upstairs from the kitchen, private bath, my own TV with cable, wifi. I'd still rather be in Chicago.

I just heard church bells and thought I was going to hear "DOORS CLOSING."

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 13 October 2006 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

STFU ABOUT THE WEATHER AND GAS PRICES.

Jeff. (Jeff), Friday, 13 October 2006 23:02 (nineteen years ago)

I totally forgot.

Gas? Is $2.02 here! That's coming up on incredible, no?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 13 October 2006 23:28 (nineteen years ago)

Why do the bells keep ringing?? The first two notes of the sequence that keeps playing is just like the El. DING. DONG.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Friday, 13 October 2006 23:30 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse: it's 50 in Chicago, about 65 in your apartment, and this is the perfectest weather ever for sleeping like a goddamn mummy. Which I have not done yet, but still plan to.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Friday, 13 October 2006 23:42 (nineteen years ago)

I have a brilliant plan.

I was worried about two things

1- I have to get 30-50 people to fill out some pre-application questionaires for something for union job training (the number I turn in will be exposed publicly in a meeting with a couple dozen people). I have until the 25th to get them done. HARD.

2- I signed |WJ up to have a booth at the |slamic Humanitarian Relief days but have forgot until today and had no clue what to do at the table. BAD

What I will do is offer the poor, tired, hungry, unemployed fuckers who come to my table the chance to fill out the fabulous questionaire that will prove to the LA public health director that there are people interested in being at-home health care workers, and once the program is set up they can get some training and get a fucking job washing old people in their homes.

I have saved myself from public awkwardness, done my job and have even Made a Difference

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 14 October 2006 01:54 (nineteen years ago)

You are my most socially responsible evil friend.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Saturday, 14 October 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

The director of the Hospice who is helping my parents in MI tells me that the state has a program in place to pay domestic helpers for those who need it. The people who receive the services can either be assigned someone or choose that someone who then collects their pay from the state.

The surprising thing is that the worker can even be a family member. This is kind of great because it helps people stay at home longer and gives the family an opportunity to be the support system.

Revolutionary. Progressive. Michigan.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 14 October 2006 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

New state motto.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Saturday, 14 October 2006 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

I am angry at you, Jesse. I am very, very cold. There is NO SPACE HEATER. I know because I have pretty much torn your apartment apart looking for it. I have also talked to the landlord. She is very cold as well. She's so old. And so cold.

What the fucking fuck. When it's 35 degrees outside and you don't have heat, you need not be obligated to be in that place.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Saturday, 14 October 2006 02:39 (nineteen years ago)

She's so old. And so cold.

LOL

But seriously, should be a space heater in the house unless you sold it for crack.

Did I throw it away maybe? I don't remember throwing it away. Why would I do that?

It is a floor model. About 2.5 feet tall, 2.5 feet long and 5" across.

Last I knew of her she was in the kitchen closet on the very top shelf.

Why is the heat not on? Why is the old lady living in the cold as well?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 14 October 2006 03:52 (nineteen years ago)

My first winter in that apt. I was about to burn slap UP, yo!

Tell her to get her blacksmith-apron-labia in gear and turn that shit on. I'm going to call her tomorrow morning.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Saturday, 14 October 2006 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

hey

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:40 (nineteen years ago)

oh goodness. yay!

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Monday, 16 October 2006 23:58 (nineteen years ago)

Not bad, but why are you determined to move to a smaller, more expensive apartment?

(from the sandbox)

I want a great location. Remember when I was taken with Jessa's apartment back in May?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 00:02 (nineteen years ago)

I am the online.

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 00:10 (nineteen years ago)

Why the fuck do people have to talk loudly on their cell phone in a computer lab?

Evidently I am sitting across from a guy that hasn't showered in two days. And he is very proud of that.

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 00:11 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to live in a different neighborhood every two years. Eventually we will buy a condo, but I don't think I can ever really appreciate hoods until I live in them.

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

Also from the sandbox, re: Thanksgiving:

The total count of people who are interested in a Thanksgiving dinner now far suprasses the capacity of our wee apartment (we cap out at six, stretched for seven, and I counted 10 interest parties including Sarah's mom). Alternatives include having Thanksgiving at someone else's larger apartment (I will happily cook my little heart out) or going to Simon's for holiday blottoness.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 00:29 (nineteen years ago)

I think Kenan should move to the nicer apartment, it's not all that expensive.

I apologize for venting my work frustrations at the Orthodox Jewish community earlier today. It's one of the busiest weeks of the year for me and I'm about to go back into work, even though all I want to do is finish the Battlegeek Nerdtacular pilot.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 00:38 (nineteen years ago)

I have decided to do all I can to snag the better apartment. I do love it. It would be nice for a change to have a space I'm really proud of.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 00:45 (nineteen years ago)

I stand by my original comment. And, judging by the distance to the train and the grocery, it seems to be solid.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 00:59 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Sidebox-Kitten-Thinks-R.article.jpg

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 01:13 (nineteen years ago)

Oops.

That was supposed to include the caption "Kitten thinks of nothing but murder all day."

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 01:13 (nineteen years ago)

aw. kitties.

Jesse, your kitty thinks of nothing but getting really fat all day.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

Rob Zombie to Crash at Your Place for a Couple of Days.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 01:23 (nineteen years ago)

Dammit. That was dumb.

Rob Zombie to Crash at Your Place for a Couple of Days.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 01:24 (nineteen years ago)

CEO has female sex organs.

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/50595

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 01:26 (nineteen years ago)

For Kenan: Résumé Font Offends Employer

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

For Jeff

The term typeface is often conflated with font, a term which, historically, had a number of distinct meanings prior to the advent of desktop publishing; these terms are now effectively synonymous when discussing digital typography.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 01:33 (nineteen years ago)

Jeff let's talk about video games.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

these terms are now effectively synonymous when discussing digital typography.

Why is that for Jeff? That's exactly what I said when you asked me about the difference between a font and a typeface.

And yet I still maintain that my example illustrates the point: Helvetica is a typeface. Helvetica 55 bold italic is a font.

How do you say 'creepy' in French? (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 01:42 (nineteen years ago)

Because Jeff corrected me when I said that the Onion had changed its font. The distinction is not valuable in ordinary conversation.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 01:54 (nineteen years ago)

Helvetica 55 is a BOLD-FACED LIE.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 01:54 (nineteen years ago)

should have read "75"

55 is not very bold.

I will let this go as of right now.

You know what's a great song? "Why Can't We Live Together" by Timmy Thomas.

gonna be a bright bright sunshiny day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 01:55 (nineteen years ago)

No, really. One of my favorite songs.

gonna be a bright bright sunshiny day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 01:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'm having one of those "Science of Sleep" days. Gross.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 01:59 (nineteen years ago)

What do you mean?

gonna be a bright bright sunshiny day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 02:02 (nineteen years ago)

One of those days where I am paying for messing with my sleep schedule (late night, sleeping in, late night drinking, sleeping in hung over, napping too much, now can't sleep tonight) and I have a weird sense of not being awake when I'm awake and not resting when I'm asleep.

As I mentioned after seeing SoS, this used to happen for weeks on end when I was younger and more depressed. And esp. when I was smoking weed. I was in a permanent hypnogogic state. Now it's sort of mild, but it's not nice.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 02:19 (nineteen years ago)

The movie is not about that. The movie is about a person who is very insane.

gonna be a bright bright sunshiny day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 02:43 (nineteen years ago)

The problem was my personal reaction to it. And anyway, what I was describing was also a mental problem, but one that is far less entertaining, less colorful, less glamorous and more mundane and annoying
I don't like the feeling of being neither awake nor asleep 24 hours a day. Fortunately it's very mild right now and has been for years.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 02:48 (nineteen years ago)

oh, monday night football. there seems to be a group of guys in some nearby apartment who are very loudly appreciating the game that's on, which is amplified by our window being open.

so i decided that they were having wild man-on-man sex, which made it all much more amusing and entertaining to overhear. there are all these exclamations of AWWWW! AW YEAH! YES YES YES! BEAUTIFUL! OH OH! YEEEAH! (also, monkey noises). and i was commenting to my roommate about how they must be having crazy monkey orgasms so she found it fit to yell that out the window (she requested that they tone down the volume of their crazy monkey orgasms). thankfully, they didn't hear.

holy shit either their team just won or they really really climaxed.

Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 02:54 (nineteen years ago)

thier team is the Bears. you are bloodless and cold. watch sportscenter. holy shit.

gonna be a bright bright sunshiny day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:11 (nineteen years ago)

I'm sorry. You're not bloodless and cold. But you're clearly not getting the fact that this is the most incredible season Chicago has had since 1985.

gonna be a bright bright sunshiny day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:19 (nineteen years ago)

AAAAAND that they pulled this sixth win out of their asses.

gonna be a bright bright sunshiny day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:25 (nineteen years ago)

And Holy shit--the Tigers are in the World Series!

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:26 (nineteen years ago)

MIDWEST REPRASENT

gonna be a bright bright sunshiney day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

I will be very quiet from now on. And never mention 1985 ever again. It's boring and it will curse us.

gonna be a bright bright sunshiney day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:43 (nineteen years ago)

And Holy shit--the Tigers are in the World Series!

Cue my home-state based fair-weather baseball fandom!

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:54 (nineteen years ago)

Fucking hyphens!

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:54 (nineteen years ago)

Yeh. I only give a shit because they're underdogs from a place I have a sort of connection with.

Also: Saints are 5-1.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 03:56 (nineteen years ago)

Bears are stupid.

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

Morning. I'm up early.

Serious question: Sabbath riffs vs. Zeppelin riffs. Who has bigger riffs?

gonna be a bright bright sunshiney day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

I don't even begin to have an answer to that. That's why I ask.

gonna be a bright bright sunshiney day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 11:08 (nineteen years ago)

Bears are stupid.

They were last night. But somehow, that didn't stop them from winning. What a weird, great game.

gonna be a bright bright sunshiney day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 11:14 (nineteen years ago)

SIX TURNOVERS. I've seen 12 year olds give up the ball less. And yet, they won.

gonna be a bright bright sunshiney day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 11:15 (nineteen years ago)

Bears fans are setting themsevles for a hard fall.

http://www.sixteenstraight.com/

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 11:27 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, after last night, 16 is WAY too much to hope for. Jesus, that's too much to hope for from any team. And the Bears were pretty much sucking it last night.

gonna be a bright bright sunshiney day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 11:31 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.footblog.com/images/steve_smith.jpg

Jeff. (Jeff), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 11:34 (nineteen years ago)

Home sick. Puked at work 3x last night. BUMMER.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:07 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, so sorry, Amanda!

Jenny, you can take my mom off that potential T-day list. She hasn't mentioned it again. Nick and I have space, but not a big enough table or near enough chairs. Hmm...

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

Home sick. Puked at work 3x last night. BUMMER.

I had to read this three times to make sure it wasn't from Otto.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:19 (nineteen years ago)

i only get sick at my own house. i can't remember the last time i hurled and wasn't in the confines of someplace where i was paying the rent. probably the last time i was in boston, driving south on rte. 93 on our way back to logan. i was driving with my head out the window puking down the highway. worst trip to the airport ever.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:23 (nineteen years ago)

actually that was a rental car so i guess i don't remember.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:24 (nineteen years ago)

I have now puked:
* at a temp job
* in a men's bathroom
* in a trashcan at the Clark/Lake stop
* all over the wall of the bathroom in the Trum@n C0llege basement
* over several railings

I am Princess of Puke.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

I cleaned up the wall.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

wait, i puked into the mississippi river when i was in new orleans. it was noon time on a saturday at the riverwalk. i staggered to the rail next to some tourist and blew chunks into the big muddy. then i wiped my mouth with the back of my hand, gave the tourists a "howyadoing", and reeled back to my hotel.

good times, good times.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

PS -- Kenan, we live right by the train tracks and it's not THAT bad. Sometimes in the summer it's hard to watch movies because the windows are open, but we just put the subtitles on and, while not ideal, it's a decent fix. Took one night to get used to sleeping with it.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:45 (nineteen years ago)

Is this all puking from this most recent illness???

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

I have now masturbated:
* at a temp job
* in a men's bathroom
* in a trashcan at the Clark/Lake stop
* all over the wall of the bathroom in the Trum@n C0llege basement
* over several railings

gonna be a bright bright sunshiney day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:55 (nineteen years ago)

I almost puked during my gig on Saturday. I wanted to puke. But no, I just had to suffer through it and try not to look at the complimentary chili dogs.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

Oh no, just the three times in the bathroom last night and once at home. That's a comprehensive "since I got to Chicago" list. I can't help it -- I got a weak stomach.

xp Yuck.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

I rarely puke when I'm sick. Usually my illnesses go south instead.

TS: Puking vs Diarrhea

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

I say Diarrhea, but puking is a little more convenient--you can do it virtually anywhere, as Amanda can confirm.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

Indeed. Puking it is. Try having diarrhea at the Clark/Lake stop in a trashcan during rush hour.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

I get the flu every winter and it is ALWAYS the throwing up kind.

The last time I threw up I got to the bile/dry puking stage. It made me so sad. My eyes were all watery and then I started crying on top of that. FUN! STUFF!

Anyway, this can't be a fun convo when you're sick, Manda.
Do you have any movies lined up to watch today?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

i remember before i moved to chicago i was here for a weekend and my former room mate thought she was gonna be sick so we got off the green line at california and she puked in a trashcan. then she told me to go find some water so i set off looking for a 24 hour convenience store. not being familiar with the area i didn't know that nothing was open during day light hours never mind at 1 a.m. around california and lake. but there was a vending machine on the other platform so i got it there. then we took the last green line train of the night back to the ridgeland stop. the end.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

But still, puking is so violent and involved for me. I stand around heaving for a while and then finally have to stick a finger down my throat to get the ball rolling. But that never works, so I have to shove most of my hand down my throat (for real, about 4 fingers) and PUMP it in and out while tickling with my fore and middle fingers. Then I will usually puke, but even then it sometimes turns out to be a false alarm and I have to start over.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

Shit, I'll puke anywhere, but I think I do it rather earlier in the inebriation process...ie it's usually a CHOICE, so that I'll feel better, rather than a necessity, so I can plan ahead and do a surgical job and not get anything messy. Then occasionally I go back out and drink some more. Hey, I didn't say it was SMRT.

Wow, Jesse, you're a terrible bulimic.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

This can go on for 5 minutes at a stretch.

I have done this to be able to drink more, btw. SMRT indeed.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

I joined Netflix last night, finally! I've got a bunch of BSG and some music movies on the way.

Jesse, I'm looking forward to going to this New Orleans benefit thingy.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh cool. Will the whole band not be there?

You know, on the front cover of that book I don't see any spray paint markers indicating that any one is dead in that house. That would normally go on the bottom space in the X, but it is blank. And I don't see anything about an attic either.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

some people have much more interesting jobs than me. email in from my friend amy:

Here’s a search request I just got from S##Y Music. The funny thing is that this is like the third time I’ve done this search for them! (of course, they wanted phat marijuana joints last time, too.)

Can you find me a photo of a big African American booty images for me?

Ex) tight hot pants or bikini shoot.

I need to have it tomorrow morning.

Thank you.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:17 (nineteen years ago)

No movies, since I didn't exactly plan on being stuck here today. I've been looking to see what's on tube. There's The Best of Everything which is just the kind of movie I want to see right now, but I've already seen it.

I don't really understand the "puke so you can drink more" thing. Isn't that what made you puke in the first place? The aforementioned Canadian friend told me that in high school they would call that the Boot & Rally.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

that's what we called it too!

(i'm not canadian btw)

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:20 (nineteen years ago)

I don't understand it either, Amanda. But sometimes you're sloshing around with so much beer that you can't do any more and you're like "Damn I still got a lot of drinking to do!" So you puke to make room for more.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

Or you've done something bad wrong to your system with shots and you still want to drink beer or more shots or something so you give up the shots to make room for something else.

Who knows. It makes sense when you're doing it.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:23 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.lowbrow.com/

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

You're right.

Half the band will be there and I might play some 'rine, but he just wanted some solo trumpet. Ben talked to him though and he sounds like a cool dude.

xpost

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

I hate puking and will go to great, miserable lengths to avoid it. Although if it's a drinking recovery puke, I'm usually all for it since those are pretty easy and result in immediate relief. (I have rarely puked from drinking so that I could drink more, but I'm not going to say it's never happened. Boot & Rally is pretty funny.)

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

Damn. Lowbrow has changed.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

For me, puking & drinking means I just lost track and drank too fast. So I'll clear out the stomach, which relieves my nausea and makes my head stop spinning, then drink water for a while, maybe eat something...and eventually I can have another drink (although I'd back off the hard stuff, probably).

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

puking & drinking for me means i was drinking gin on an empty stomach. it happens more too often for comfort.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny OTM, puking after drinking = saving yourself from a body full of liquor in the morning, i.e. crushing hangover.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

Exactly. Also, puking BEFORE you leave the bar/house allows you to take the bus home in relative safety.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

Where's Jeff? I want to tell someone that gas is $2.01 here!!!

(Also, 82 and T-storms today, 90 tomorrow)

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

not related to drinking or puking but i was listening to the first real kids album during my commute this morning and i was struck by how god damn awesome those songs are. i had to stand on the bus and i think i may have been dancing to "reggae reggae". greatest guitar riff ever.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:36 (nineteen years ago)

john felice kills threads dead.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:50 (nineteen years ago)

I can't comment, I've never heard of the Real Kids. Should I have?

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

i dunno, my pov on music is skewed these days. i don't know anything about anything.

i left my house more than 3 hours ago and my hair is still wet.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:54 (nineteen years ago)

That's because there's so much of it.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, there's a lot of music out there.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago)

Can someone explain to me what this means?

CHICAGO (AP) -- Chicago Mercantile Exchange Holdings Inc. said Tuesday it agreed to purchase CBOT Holdings Inc. for $8 billion in a move to create a global derivatives exchange with average daily trading volume approaching 9 million contracts per day.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

But you're clearly not getting the fact that this is the most incredible season Chicago has had since 1985.

dude, i don't know shit about the bears, but it is exciting when there's great fun dramatic sportsstuff going on. i get all elated over sports on occasion, but it tends to be basketball.

i just so happened to have a daylong miserable splitting headache and my options seemed to be a)feel like i was going to die or b)distract myself by making fun of my loud preppy fratboy neighbors, and i chose the latter. i don't believe that was bloodless and cold.

Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:00 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, I've never puked and then went back to drinking. Usually I feel pretty shitty and can't imagine putting anything toxic into my system again.

The last time I puked from something other than drinking was a stomach virus when I was 14.

I feel like I'm coming down with something now, though. I woke up this morning with a sore throat. :(

Also, LOL @ Kenan caring about the Bears. I had band practice last night, and we went to Twisted Spoke afterwards, at about 10:45. I didn't even notice what was on the TV until the other dozen or so people in the bar suddenly erupted in cheers. The Cardinals kicker had missed the field goal in the final minute.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago)

"bury me happy" by the moles is stuck in my head. i haven't heard this song in YEARS and no longer have access to the single so i don't know how i'm going to exorcise this beast.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

I saw a tiny bit of the Bears game, but it was too depressing to watch (and I don't even have BEARS FEVER!).

I hate hate hate throwing up but I tend to get the flu at least once a year and then food poisoning at some point and then something kind of like the flu again at another point... I never throw up from drinking. I often wake up from it feeling like hell and with a messed up stomach, but then breakfast generally cures that.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:08 (nineteen years ago)

I probably don't throw up from drinking just because I'm such a lightweight, so I never end up drinking that much.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:13 (nineteen years ago)

I really want to learn about football. I bought a book called something like "Women's Guide to a Understanding this Man's Game" or something. It's hopeless though. Football goes to a part of my brain that is covered in Teflon. I learned it a couple of times during a game, but it immediately left me.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

What the hell is this bullshit????

I lost my wallet with my one credit card in it and reported it lost. I tried to make a payment but was told that I could't until I received the new card. Later I call back because the payment due date was coming up fast and I still have no card and no account number. They forgot to send out a replacement and had just cancelled the account intead, so they agree to take a payment and send me a new card. This was 2 weeks ago.

I call today to check on that card and am told that my payment is awaiting clearance, which takes 15 days and they can't mail out a new card until the clearance occurs, despite the fact that the account is current even without that payment.

Normally this would not be such a problem as I just use that card to auto-pay my Chicago card and Sprint bill, but I was counting on the card to get me from NO to Chicago via car, and to make any expensible purchases for the office.

Grrrrr.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

I also hate throwing up and will go to great lengths to avoid doing so, including suffering through feeling absolutely miserable. The last time this happened was TT when Chris was in town, when I drank on an empty stomach and all the beer sloshed around the whole way home on the train.

The last time I actually puked from drinking was when my ex-boss, the chef at the restaurant I worked at in college, tried to kill me with Jameson and Hefe-Weizen after my last night on the line. I went to dinner with my family at a pretty nice place the next night, over 24 hours later, and still had to excuse myself to go get sick.

Unrelated: I went to the Whirlaway last night. It is small and was very crowded for teh football, but the people were very nice and there was lots of free food! It'd make a decent TT spot if peeps didn't mind riding the train out to the Square. It's about a 3 block walk from the station.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

What gets me is: my account is current. I chose to pay off the balance even though I didn't have to. My choosing to be good has resulted in my not having a card available to me.

Thanks, C@pital One!

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Puking from drinking =/= puking from being sick. I was not drunk at work last night!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:27 (nineteen years ago)

I can't recall the last time I puked from being sick. I guess I don't get stomach bugs all that much, I just digest their asses.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

i just so happened to have a daylong miserable splitting headache and my options seemed to be a)feel like i was going to die or b)distract myself by making fun of my loud preppy fratboy neighbors, and i chose the latter. i don't believe that was bloodless and cold.

Oh. OH! I'm so sorry. I didn't mean that for a second, you can't think that I did! I was being teh snark. And full of football rage, or something. I'm sorry.

gonna be a bright bright sunshiney day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:29 (nineteen years ago)

dan i'd definitely be up for a tt in logan square. when i first put forth the suggestion i said someone different should pick the place every week so we don't wind up going to the same neighborhood every time. and of course the one time it was in my neighborhood i couldn't go but whatevs.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:30 (nineteen years ago)

I agree, Amanda! At least throwing up from drinking usually makes you feel better. When sick, you are still sick after throwing up. Then, perhaps, you get to throw up more later. FUN!

What otto said. I'd be up for whirlaway.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

(BTW, Amanda, Did ANTM happen this past Sunday? I forgot about it and never got an email)

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

Eek! I dunno, since I was out of town and then crashed when I got home.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:34 (nineteen years ago)

I am sorry about Amanda's Sicky McSicko impersonation. :(

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

I am sorry for the bratty brat on the airplane who breathed on me and probably gave me this virus, because I have cursed him/her many times over.

I did just eat sorbet at 10AM with impunity though. I'm sick!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

What flavor??

I'm having green apple slices with caramel dip!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

What else? Mango!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

but the people were very nice and there was lots of free food!

Yep! Was Maria bartending?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

lots of free food = entire pig carcass, head and all?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago)

haha

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

I'm having green apple slices with caramel dip!

that sounds very autumny. i want some hot apple cider.

Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

I can NOT wait until I get to Charlotte! I'm gonna only eat Eastern NC BBQ. The "Carolina-style" BBQ here is fer shit. Even the stuff I got at the airport in Charlotte was bullshit. It was vinegary, but still had some ketchupiness! NO NO NO.

Maybe I can get a head start in Chicago if Amanda will make me a big crock pot full...?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't catch the bartender's name, it was a woman in her 40s, I would say. I could barely hear how much a beer was over the Bears-cheering and Cardinals-cursing.

And they had very nearly an entire pig, though it looked like it had been taken apart into its component parts. Also lots of spaghetti, potatoes, lasagna, all kinds of stuff. I felt like I shouldn't have eaten dinner before heading over there!

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Hi dere chicago. Any chance you can arrange temperatures in the 60s for my visit? Also: is the area around the convention center as lame as in DC?

quincie (quincie), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Which convention center?

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

when are you coming and which convention center? rosemont, mccormick place, other?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't catch the bartender's name, it was a woman in her 40s, I would say.

Yeah, that's Maria. (Assuming she was also Hispanic.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago)

i would never leave a bar that had free lasagna.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

AMANDA, I had McD's chicken fingers with ranch dressing for pizza last night. I would TOTALLY have had pizza for pizza, but the local quality was not good.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe I can get a head start in Chicago if Amanda will make me a big crock pot full...?

I could do that, and would do that, but would you prefer that I email you the recipe?

OMG I have to confess that I enjoy McDonald's chicken fingers. With the buffalo wing sauce? YUM.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

There's more than one convention center? Hmmm--I will have to check!

Oh man free lasagna. . .

quincie (quincie), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

I must not be nauseous anymore if I can talk about "chicken" and "fingers" without wanting to yak.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

I am so not going to lose any weight by eating chicken selects at 1am. OH WELL.

Mands, when's the last time you ate solid food? Have some juice or something?

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

McCormick Place! Not sure where I'll be hotel-wise, but presumably near-ish the convention center.

quincie (quincie), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm...yesterday at lunch. That's what wound up on the wall. It was rice and miso soup.

Hey Laurel, so you're coming the weekend after or before thanksgiving?!? For reals? Because if so, I'm going to write it on the calendar so I don't forget and can start planning.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh and I'm coming on Friday, Nov. 10 and staying through Sunday. Not sure what my schedule will be--I'll only have been at my new job for two weeks at that point, so I will have to be on my best behavior :(. Maybe Sunday evening FAPing?

quincie (quincie), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

i was going back and forth about running out to burger king for pizza last night but between the rain and me realizing it was 1:30 and bk was closed i stayed in. or rather i went outside with my umbrella and had cigarettes for pizza.

xpost- awesome, i get back in town that weekend. fap's away.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

yay!

quincie (quincie), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know of a lot going on near McCormick Place, but you're a quick walk/bus/train ride from downtown.

While riding the Metra to or from work there are always several disheveled-looking businesspeople riding the 3 stops from downtown to McCormick Place or back. It amazes me that they pay for that short a train ride. One time this big crew of 40something dudes got on at the center, all with loosened ties and untucked shirts, each guzzling beers and obviously hammered. They were loudly talking about sales or something similarly nauseating, and I'm pretty sure multiple high-fives were exchanged.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

McCormick Place is south of the Loop and isn't really around much of anything besides Soldier Field, where the Bears play. A little further north (a little more than a mile) is the museum campus, with the Field Museum, Shedd Aquarium, and Adler Planetarium. But it's not really a happenin' part of town or anything.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

(But Dan's also right that it's not too far from downtown, either, via public transportation.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:20 (nineteen years ago)

I could do that, and would do that, but would you prefer that I email you the recipe?

I want it waiting for me when I arrive. I should be back in town October 31 at around 2 PM. Unless I get impatient and decide that I am driving straight through, which I prossrably mayght do. In which case I'll be in town Oct. 31 at around 1 AM.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

I love it when you're bossy.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:37 (nineteen years ago)

You may be alone in that.

gonna be a bright bright sunshiney day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

I love it when Jesse tries to gross me out and it doesn't work.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:50 (nineteen years ago)

I love it when Jesse shoves his thick cock in my mouth.

gonna be a bright bright sunshiney day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:54 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.vh1.com/shared/media/images/amg_covers/200/drh200/h288/h28896n0jlc.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago)

http://digitalretrograde.com/Photos/manatee26js_small.jpg

gonna be a bright bright sunshiney day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago)

lolz I love that pic

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:08 (nineteen years ago)

This is still my favorite story of when Dan, Kevin, Jenny, John, Jeff, Courtney and I all got together last week.

We were served supper, Dan and Kevin both get blind drunk, both become unreasonable, one vomits in the other's mouth, the one swallows the stuff, then the other vomits into the mouth of the first, now he swallows, and so forth and so on, and they finally collapse into the supper's debris, that is to say, into the filth they've just splashed all over the floor. And then Jeff is sent into the fray, for our co-worker Jenny has not an ounce of strength left, indeed she has lost consciousness. But this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view: Jeff is prone, his prick straight and hard as a crowbar; Jenny and John seize his instrument, he stammers, swears, draws them to him, sucks Courtney's thumb and discharges like a bull, the while twisting and turning and continuing to wallow in his ordure. Then we rode the red line home.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

Good times, good friends.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

I think I may have won the gmail targeted ad competition today:

The Sh-t Book - www.theshitbook.com - 104 pages filled with sh-t Hilarious, insanely brilliant!

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

i remember less vomiting and more yelling about socks.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

I never am going to win the GMTAC... Mine are always boring.

Though this is kind of odd:

Dinner napkin
Dinner napkin Savings! Dinner Napkin Shoppers Start Here.
Dinner.Napkins.AlltheBrands.com

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

Jesse, you have poetry in you.

gonna be a bright bright sunshiney day (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

I thought Jesse was going to end that post with "the Aristocrats!"

Man, I totally got stood up for this rehearsal today. I leave work when I'm busy as shit, the bandleader doesn't meet me where he said he would (and has no cell phone), and the bass player didn't know about the rehearsal. I wait like AN HOUR to hear something back, and then come back to work. Now I have an e-mail from the dude like "what happened guys, I thought we were going to get together??"

Fucking musicians. The worst part is that I was really excited about playing these tunes today.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

I have a new screen name.

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:40 (nineteen years ago)

Me too then.

I got confused, I discharged like a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

Laurel, I am listening to the Oxford Collapse for the first time. I didn't realize they were so emo! Not that this is a bad thing, necessarily. I just wrote a long blog post about emo.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

i'm sure i mentioned before how they disappointed me live. two 7"s, a couple mp3s, loved everything i heard then they plotzed at the bottle. promise promise promise disappointment.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

"Discharge" makes it sound so... discolored.

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:51 (nineteen years ago)

I think Laurel recommended them to me on the basis of the live show, but I don't remember.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

It looks like early winter in Chicago outside and it's freezing indoors, but when I go out it's muggy and warm. Confusing.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

Discharge, on the other hand, isn't emo at all.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)

i saw them july of 05 at the bottle, they'd get close to busting loose and then back off. it was as satisfying as a dry hump.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)

Holy shit, Discharge? I guess the old punker reunion thing has gotten pretty commonplace.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

Discharging from such great heights....

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

I think Otto means Oxford Collapse.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 16:59 (nineteen years ago)

yes, sorry, meant the OC.

not to say a dry hump isn't a good thing but if that's what you're hoping for then i humbly submit that you're setting your sights too low friend.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, ok. This did prompt me to do a little searching, though, and I found out that Discharge did reunite, in 2002.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

not to say a dry hump isn't a good thing

I'll say it if you won't. (cf. "making out")

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

yes, sorry, meant the OC.

Please don't call it that.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, this album is not entirely emo. The last track, "In Your Volcano," sort of sounds like "It's the End of the World as We Know It."

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

I am listening to Jawbox.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)

I totally have music blue balls now. I learned the tunes was all set to get out for a little bit today, play some r&b, let off some steam, and now nothin'.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 17:46 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, Jordan. We'll have a moment of silence for you at band practice tonight.

Random question: Can't "reeling" be a verb, such as I'm still reeling from what she said to me yesterday...?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:02 (nineteen years ago)

sure it can.

Juulia (julesbdules), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know what else it would be. I mean, a film reel, I guess.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago)

Or a fishing reel. But the example that you quote, Sarah, is probably the most common usage of that word.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

in which case adding "ing" would make a gerund. which is still a verb.

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

reeeeling in the yeeeeeeee-eeears
stowing away the tiiiiii-iiimmmme...

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

You could reel off a list of things.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)


HowManyOfMe.comhttp://extimg.howmanyofme.com/extimages/howmany-logo.pngThere are:
433
people with my name
in the U.S.A.
How many have your name?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

NO WAIT FORGET I SAID THAT A GERUND IS A NOUN FORMED FROM A VERB NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago)

Hm. That is all borked up. But anyway, click there and see how many people in the US who have participated in a US census have the same name as you. (Most accurate for white sub/urban legal residents.)

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, that database is awful skimpy.

"There are 0 people in the U.S. with the first name Kenan."

ORLY?

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

There are 4 people in the U.S. named my real name.
There are 0 people in the U.S. named Otto Midnight.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

My first and last names are both 16th most popular.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)


HowManyOfMe.comhttp://extimg.howmanyofme.com/extimages/howmany-logo.pngThere are:
2,659
people with my name
in the U.S.A.
How many have your name?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

reelity bites

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)

Ok. I just couldn't find that in an online dictionary so I thought I might be wrong.

Steely Dan reels in the years.
The old man is reeling in a big fish.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

* There are 6,172 people in the U.S. named Sarah Johnson.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

for reals

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:16 (nineteen years ago)

You gotta know there are about 10 times that many ppl named S4rah J0hns0n.

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

I know.
There are only 5 people with Nick's name!!

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:18 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny, that database is awful skimpy.

Yes, it's based on census data, as mentioned, which is notoriously unreliable unless, as mentioned, you are measuring white sub/urban legal residents. As mentioned.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

So non-white sub/urban legal residents don't respond to censuses? Honest question.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

Line up by how common our name is:

1. Sarah (6,172)
2. Dan (4,009)
3. John (2,659)
4. Jenny (433)
5. Jeff (186)
6. Jordan (31)
7. Amanda (28)
8. Nick (5)
9. Kevin (4)
10. Jesse (1)
--. Eric (1)
12. Julia (0)
--. Kenan (0)
--. Laurel (0)
--. Kelsey (0)
--. Jocelyn (0)
--. Evan (0)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

All you zeroes are poor citizens!

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

I put in the last names of my parents' Indian neighbors, and the wife's is there while the husband's is not.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)

i actually know one guy with my name. he also works for the same branch of the federal gvt as i do. in boston. where i'm from. weird.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

So non-white sub/urban legal residents don't respond to censuses? Honest question.

That's my understanding. Part of it is getting people out to rural locations to do the counting, and part of it is a general distrust on the part of minorities and undocumented immigrants when asked probing personal questions by a government agent who is taking notes on their responses.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

I just filled out a census the other week. I was about to throw it away when I found the small print that mentioned it's illegal NOT to fill it out.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

Why would there be a census in 2006? Or do they take a small sample of the population and then use that for their estimate?

The 300 millionth person in the U.S. was born today, btw.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

I remember in 2000 we got census forms in our mailboxes at school.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago)

As someone whose favorite page in the World Almanac was always the list of the most populous U.S. cities, I was genuinely excited to fill out a census for the first time.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever seen a census form! You mean it's not one of those things they do by averages, like Nielsen ratings?

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

Of course you haven't seen one! That's why there are zero people with your name in the U.S.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)

Awesome, hstencil called me "the biggest pussy ever" on another thread. Call me crazy (and pardon the anatomical confusion), but I'd rather be a pussy than a huge fucking asshole.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)

Which thread?

No one's ever asked me to fill out the census.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

Who the fuck takes their preschooler to an Andy Warhol exhibit curated by David Cronenberg?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

I still think the census is pretty neat -- people still going around door to door to count people? That's cool.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago)

Man, fuck that Eyore motherfucker.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

My cenus just came in the mail.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

That thread reminds me of when I took the Chinese group to see the Wolfgang Tillmans exhibit. They giggled a lot, but I don't think they were traumatized. They were also not toddlers.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

You said us zeros were "poor citizens", Jay. I was just defending my reputation.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

I was chastised recently for leaving (for the sub) a TAL episode for my class (of adults) that contained the word "masturbation" . I was like, "They're adults, some of them have kids, they need to know how to say 'masturbation' in English. Who cares?" I didn't get in trouble, but the lady who subbed for me was aghast. Whatever lady. I'm not afraid to talk about masturbation.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

I've been thinking about hiring a female prostitute.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:53 (nineteen years ago)

I'd like to speak into her device.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)

And thumb through her volumes.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

And insulate her attic.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:55 (nineteen years ago)

Then frisee her cabbage.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

And she could abdicate my throne.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know what I would do with her.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago)

hahahaha

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

Dammit. Playtime is over. Boss is flying in. Gotta be bizzzay while she here.

Tomorrow I interview my replacement! One of these dudes sent in the strangest looking resume I've ever seen.

Off to MSY....

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:58 (nineteen years ago)

I'd also clear her browsing history.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 18:59 (nineteen years ago)

let me know how that works out for you jesse. actually don't, don't let me know because i think i might hang myself if my gay friend gets laid with a member of the opposite sex before i do.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:02 (nineteen years ago)

It doesn't count if he's paying her, Otto.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:05 (nineteen years ago)

i'm not convinced. what if they bartered? would that count?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

hi chicago, what's happening?

researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:17 (nineteen years ago)

I'm going to the eye doctor! So long, everybody! So long, work!

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:20 (nineteen years ago)

i can't speak for the rest of the city but i'm currently weighing my physiological needs against my financial limitations and moral fabric while factoring in health risks on a certain matter.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)

same here. how 'bout those bears?

researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:23 (nineteen years ago)

good thing they weren't playing an nfl team.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

no shit.

I'll still take a game like that over a properly-executed win. That's my favorite kind of game.

researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:26 (nineteen years ago)

What, the kind where the home team sucks?? Just kidding, I didn't watch it.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:27 (nineteen years ago)

i'd take a game that's on BROADCAST TV THE WAY GOD INTENDED IT FOR US 'MURKINS. FREE. i hate having to leave my house to see a football game.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

In high school we would always talk about paying a hooker to come out for coffee with us.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

laurel you're lucky, i was wishing i wasn't watching for 3/4 of it.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:28 (nineteen years ago)

Why doesn't ABC do Monday Night Football anymore? I thought it was traditionally a huge ratings success.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

In high school we would always talk about paying a hooker to come out for coffee with us.

so you knew they accepted money but just didn't know what for, eh?

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Hawaii likes the move to ESPN because Monday night games are live, as opposed to tape-delay when they were on ABC.

researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago)

Market research has proven America's more into Wife wap, The Bachelor, and What About Brian, obv.

researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)

Why doesn't ABC do Monday Night Football anymore? I thought it was traditionally a huge ratings success.

disney still has mnf, it makes more sense for them to put sports on their sports station and entertainment on their entertainment station.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, at least when you go out for coffee, the general public gets to SEE you in the company of a beautiful woman (because in high school you still believe all hookers are physically attractive).

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

and coffee is a very exciting, adult thing. just like hanging with a hooker. (sleeping with one is scary).

researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

disney still has mnf, it makes more sense for them to put sports on their sports station and entertainment on their entertainment station.

Even when the audience for MNF exceeds households that have cable? I remember in the early 90s (last time I watched football on a regular basis), CBS did Murphy Brown and Designing Women on Mondays because they knew the only people that weren't watching the game were women.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago)

NERDCITY ALERT: Jesse's list of things he would do to a female prostitute sounds like Scissorman dialog from Grant Morrison's Doom Patrol comic.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

Totally. Also, maybe we thought we would be doing them a favor somehow?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:38 (nineteen years ago)

I LOVE U JENNY

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

(because in high school you still believe all hookers are physically attractive).

man, i've got to check out the talent in western michigan because in the bombed out mill cities of northeastern massachusetts they all looked like junkies or crackheads.


Even when the audience for MNF exceeds households that have cable?
yes john. the numbers for mnf on espn are on par with the numbers for mnf on abc last year. but the numbers for abc this year VERSUS mnf are better than last year's espn ratings versus mnf. sports fans were watching the game not other sports. people who didn't want to watch the game weren't watching other sports so espn had nothing. this way disney still has mnf but also cuts into the people who have no interest in sports.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)

I have discovered that the only non-school reading my mushy little brain can handle these days is in comic book form. Unfortunately, we've only got the first two volumes of Doom Patrol on paper and the rest are on Jeff's computer, which is NO GOOD because I can't drag his computer into bed with me.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)

I've been reading the third (I think? It's the one with Flex Mentallo) Doom Patrol trade in bed at night, when my brain is too mushy for Cormac McCarthy. :>

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

Wasn't there an ILXor named Doom Patrol a/k/a doomie?

Thank you for the explanation, Otto -- although if my dad hadn't told me the other day that ABC and ESPN merely switched Sunday and Monday, I'd be utterly confused.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

I have to say, John Mayer's blog is pretty fucking funny.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:09 (nineteen years ago)

I've always liked that guy. Of course, it probably helps that I've never heard a lick of his music.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago)

You probably actually have, but just didn't realize it was him.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago)

Or at least that's how it worked for me.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

I've heard his music and HATED it but just now, looking at the blog, I was amused. How about that.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

That thread on his "New Trustafarian Anthem" was great.

researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I can't really listen to his music, although I guess it's cool that he's a respectable guitar player with good taste in the musicians he looks up to. But whatever.

I thought it was hilarious that he looked himself up on myheritage.com.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago)

Celebrities: Just Like Us!

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

I had my first moment of John Mayer cognitive dissonance when he was on the Dave Chappel show for the "white people like electric guitar music" skit, which I thought was hilarious. Also I thought he was cute. Then Jeff told me he did that horendous "your body is a wonderland" turd and I became confused.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago)

The drummer in the "John Mayer Trio" is fucking FIERCE.

researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe he should just stop singing.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Then Jeff told me he did that horendous "your body is a wonderland" turd

i've never heard this particular turd but i think it's great because whenever anyone says "wonderland" i automatically think about the greyhound track of the same name in revere, ma.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

"wonderland: the excitement of it all"

a fucking dog track on rte one across the water from logan airport.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

Black people love him, apparently.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:32 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - I agree. He should just look cute, update his blog, and play guitar in Dave Chappel skits.

The aforementioned turd reminds me of Abercrombie & Fitch. Not because I heard it in one of their stores, because I haven't been in an Abercrombie & Fitch since the mid-90s, but because it sounds like a song that someone who kept up with the latest fashions from Abercrombie & Fitch would listen to.

When Branding Goes Wrong.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

It makes me think about "Next Stop, Wonderland", the Hope Davis movie about the dog track, among other subjects.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

The drummer in the "John Mayer Trio" is fucking FIERCE.

Steve Jordan! Killing it on r&b and fusion records for like 30 years (Steely Dan, John!). I saw him with Sonny Rollins once at Ravinia!

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:34 (nineteen years ago)

It makes me think about "Next Stop, Wonderland", the Hope Davis movie about the dog track, among other subjects.

i liked this movie and i don't care who didn't.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

White Dudes who get Black Ladies to buy thier albums:

-John Mayer
-Justin Timberlake
-Michael MacDonald

who else?

xp: Thats right! My brother the drum-nerd told me that but I forgot.

researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

I didn't see Next Stop, Wonderland, but I saw regular old Wonderland (dir: Michael Winterbottom):

http://www.djfl.de/entertainment/stars/m/michael_winterbottom_110566bp.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

- Daryl Hall and John Oates

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

I think I like Hope Davis better than...is that Andie McDowel? I can't tell.

Laurel (Laurel), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

Good call.

Bobby Caldwell
Robin Thicke
Eminem

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

later chicago.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:42 (nineteen years ago)

No, it's not Andie MacDowell. I believe it's Molly Parker.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

The movie also stars Shirley Henderson, one of my favorite British character actresses, who looks a little like a poor woman's Helena Bonham Carter.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago)

if yr all done cataloguing the tendencies of black folks I want to ask jordan about seeing sonny rollins - was this ... 3 or 4 years ago? I was there too! I thought it was a great show. He did that one song at the end where it went on forever. Do you remember the guy who got ejected for acting the fool? I was acting the fool w/ my friend too, we hi-fived whenever Rollins did something awesome.

deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:45 (nineteen years ago)

Just to satisfy my own curiosity, on what criteria are you men basing your assessment of what records black women buy?

xpost

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

I was basing mine on the fact that Hall and Oates were routinely on the Billboard R&B charts in the early 1980s.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago)

Dude, I guarantee you that Bobby "What You Won't Do For Love" Caldwell has sold most of his records to middle-aged black couples to dance to in their living rooms.

Deej, yeah! I was so glad to see him. I loved the trainwrecks in the show, like when SR would stop a song and go into a completely different one or whatever. Also when he would get low during the 10 minute calypso tunes.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

(Eight R&B Top 40 hits between 1976-88.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago)

Black Women love Michael MacDonald. Its a fact.

researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, far be it from me to question a bunch of white* guys' assumptions about what black women like!

*John and Jordan, anyway.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.associatedentertainment.com/aec/images/main/Michael-McDonald.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:01 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/27/60286620_bb8899a875_m.jpg

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:03 (nineteen years ago)

Would it be better if it was "white artists who have a sizeable black audience?"

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:05 (nineteen years ago)

white male artists who have a sizeable black female audience

researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)

Ha I wasn't actually thinking like that, I was remembering a recent time-killing conversation the band had on tour along similar lines.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:16 (nineteen years ago)

Anyway, yeah, I'll stop generalizing.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago)

That Rollins show remains one of my favorite ever.

deej.. (deej..), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

xp:
me too.

those MM pics are grate.

researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:28 (nineteen years ago)

I'll trim her peonies when winter cumz.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago)

My schedule just got really full. Dinner tonight at 8, interview tomorrow at 8 AM, lunch meeting, more meeting, dinner meeting, meeting at 9 AM. OMG I just want to read my book.

Also, I just learned that Jesse J@ckson Jr. is going to be running for mayor of Chicago.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago)

no way. is this official yet?

researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)

No sir. He has been holding "listening meetings" but he has been making a lot of noises that are pretty much a platform/motto about "taxpayers deserve a fair shake." Not talking tax cuts, but better use of taxes. Time for a change, etc.

Anyway my boss was at a meeting with him last night and spoke with him and she says it is pretty clear that this is what's happening. He has signs and banners up.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)

From what she said, these meetings are stump speeches but without the pressure of being official. She was pretty matter-of-fact about his having decided.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

no way. is this official yet?

Wait. Were you referring to Jesse Jax Jr or to I'll trim her peonies when winter cumz ?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago)

So when I left Chicago, it seemed like the climate was right for Jackson to challenge Daley.

Does this look like a realistsic venture for JJJr?

xp obv.

researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

I don't know nothing bout it except what I told you.

I have served JJJr fish.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

Black women love JJJr.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

plus i gotta go office furniture shopping

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

I have set microphones for JJSr.

researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:04 (nineteen years ago)

One time when I was about 9 I fell on my ass on the stump of a tree that had blown over in the wind. I was wearing a snow suit and jeans, but the jagged wood cut through to my skin and I got a huge gash from my asshole to my 'taint. And one more day closed in the frozen Minnesota swamp.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

Aw man, I had like 8 discs of Battlestar at the top of my nascent netflix queue, and the two movies at the bottom have apparently shipped first (Incident at Loch Ness and, uh, Graffitti Bridge). Does this happen often?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Let me know how Loch Ness is.

researching ur life (grady), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)

That has never happened to me. Are you sure you didn't fuck something up?

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe you added BSG after the other movies had shipped.

Jordan, add me as a friend (go to "Friends" and send me an email j3ss3k3hr@gmail).

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)

Done.

Nah, I added all my movies at the same time and I added BSG first.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:28 (nineteen years ago)

I have served JJJr fish.
http://dinnerden.com/chicago/rests/jjfish.jpg

literalisp (literalisp), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

I tried to add you as my friend but that part of NF was not working for me.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

Huh. Oh well.

I'm going home, work sucks.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 17 October 2006 22:34 (nineteen years ago)

I picked up my boss from the airport. She returns with me to the office and uses the office computer to check her email and says, "So. Kenan is a model tenant, is he?"

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:04 (nineteen years ago)

So I was walking home from the train station and there's a guy in front of our apartment building asking for change because he is homeless and hungry. I had no accessible change but then was thinking, once I got into the house, that this guy is right in front of our building and I'm in an excellent position to make his life a little easier so I made him a PB&J. I took it down to him and said, "Here's a PB&J sandwich." He said, "I don't eat peanut butter. Do you have any change?" And I said, "I just made you a sandwich and you're asking me for change?" And he said, "Sorry!" and I said, "That's okay. Good luck."

And then I went inside and called the cops on him.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

I'm kidding about that last part. But I'm totally going to eat his sandwich for lunch tomorrow.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

I've been meaning to tell you about my weekend, dearest ILXors.

Copied from an email:

...I Hung out with the Muslims, saw a sloppy drag show and met a rich mess. After working with the Islamic Relief folks, I went to The Wrinkle Room* where Bessie gave me and 2 other guys I know (Rick (cute, around 38) and Jansen) free tickets to an AIDS benefit drag show. I rode with the 2 guys and I had to sit on Rick's lap because there were antiques in the back seat of the car. So there we were, 3 fags, all carrying cocktails in go-cups, packed into the front of an SUV, bouncing through the Marigny, me on the cute guy's lap and my head out the sun roof.

The drag show was OK. A local Fox News anchor was an emcee and she (an African-American actual woman) did a number. There were also men and a mime doing numbers. I laud their success in queering this event. The show was at Cowpokes, a Western gay bar where Nascar was on all the screens and there disco ball was a pair of mirrored cowboy boots.

After the show we went back to the Wrinkle Room where I completely missed what was a very strong advance from Rick. After he left the bartender chewed me out for being blind, saying, "Why the hell do you think he was rubbing your neck and shoulders if he wasn't interested in you?"

The rich mess is named Jake who is 34, a resident of labrynthine 5 bedroom 3 bath Uptown house where he lives with a beautiful Doberman. I get the feeling that he's some kind of New Orleans old-money-faded-glory type because while he has tons of art, antiques, and evidence of frequent trips to France (photos, music and the fact that his Colgate, Sure and other toiletries are all in French, plus the fact that his dog knows French) he is a waiter and bartender and the manor is ramshackle and kind of scary. Also he sleeps on a mattress on the floor and he lives in the house with his 2 brothers, 2 sisters and his cousin Arthur whom I met, who is also a waiter. The rent on this mansion totals $800 a month.

Rich or not, he's a mess. He is loyal to one cab driver who is apparently his confessor as well. It seems he's been going through a rough patch and he apologized to the driver for "what happened last time."

The next morning as he was driving me home he swerved suddenly and without a lot of provocation. "Sorry," he said, "I ate mushrooms yesterday and the raindrops are mesmerizing me."

Also his cousin Arthur attends mass nearly every day. Arthur is straight, but he tells me that he believes that Jesus was a homosexual.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:09 (nineteen years ago)

*Wrinkle Room = the old folks gay bar, the Friendly Bar.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:11 (nineteen years ago)

"So. Kenan is a model tenant, is he?"

Little backstory: I wrote that letter myself. Never be afraid to lay it on thick.

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:17 (nineteen years ago)

I had dinner with my boss and the man who is probably going to be my successor in my job. It was boring. I don't like sitting around being a bump on a log and wishing I had an intelligent question to ask. Then of course I got the "Well Jesse, you're being very quiet...."

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 02:24 (nineteen years ago)

"Why the hell do you think he was rubbing your neck and shoulders if he wasn't interested in you?"

Yeah, that's pretty hard to miss.

The rich mess is named Jake . . . Jesus was a homosexual.

Anne Rice? Is that you?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:25 (nineteen years ago)

Hey, I have a question -- Jaymc, I know that you do copy editing, but is your job at all characterized as "fact-checking"? Because I thought that it was, so in class on Monday night (I completely forgot to mention this yesterday, as this occurred pre-puke) we were reading something or other and "fact checker" came up they were incredulous when I told them that this is a legitimate job AND I know someone who does it. That someone is responsible for going through the information in the encyclopedia and verifying that it's true -- this blew their minds.

Their questions for you include:
* How do you do this research?
* Does this job require special training?

I promised them I would ask.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, in fact, most of what I do, on a day-to-day basis, is fact-checking.

When I started in publishing six years ago, I was hired as a researcher/fact-checker (for a textbook developer) and gradually my job expanded to include copy editing, proofreading, and other kinds of "quality assurance." So now, even though my official job position is copy editor, because of my experience I tend to be put on fact-checking-intensive projects.

You don't need any special training, only a good sense of what sources are reliable and how to find them, both of which come with experience. For some projects, a lot of what I'm doing is just verifying against the "core" encyclopedia, making sure we're consistent across all products. But for the one I'm working on now, which involves a lot of current events, I use actual newspaper clippings, subscription news databases, reference books, and Google. If the source is, say, the BBC, I'll usually be satisfied with it -- on the other hand, if it's Joe Blow's Blog, I'll most likely search for a couple other sources to back up whatever I've found.

At the textbook developer, I had to provide documentation for everything I did, since we were working for clients. At this job, there's not so much of that -- if I find something is correct, I just put a little red check over it in the manuscript and move on. If something is obviously wrong, I'll correct it, and if it seems more ambiguous than that, I'll query the editor or the author to see if we can rephrase it or otherwise resolve the problem.

I feel like I'm on an episode of Reading Rainbow or something.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 12:58 (nineteen years ago)

John, we are QA brothers. Sort of.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

But don't take my word for it!

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Hehe. Thanks for being so thorough. They were really just sort of mesmerized by the fact that someone's job is to verify facts because, as you can know, they don't all come from places where facts or history or the "truth" is so carefully vetted. Not that all of our history books are 100% historically accurate (AHAHAHAHAHAHA) but it's not like they're full of the glory of our almighty king either.

I considered bringing you in for a guest speaker, but it doesn't really fit with our civics curriculum. I am, however, bringing Jenny in during our section on workers' rights, which should be coming right up.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:04 (nineteen years ago)

John, your job sounds fascinating and I am being very sincere. If I had found a job like that, I probably never would have wound up in the soul-ruining hell hole of law school.

Sorry. Bitter. And tired.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:05 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny! Workers' rights! Justice! Humans!

(just a reminder that what you're doing matters)

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

This is good to hear. I know it in an abstract way, but I'm about at the nadir of the break 'em down, build 'em up model and it's hurting my feelings area.

When did you want me to come to your class? If you don't know the date, which day of the week?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:16 (nineteen years ago)

My big deadline here is 8 am tomorrow. Hopefully after tonight I will stop working so late, stressing out, and posting stupid shit on ILX for awhile.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

Will you all pray for me today that I get this awesome apartment?

Will you donate all your old furniture to me?

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:24 (nineteen years ago)

Will you donate all your old furniture to me?

what old furniture?

actually, i do have a blue crushed velvet chair that i should have thrown out 13 years ago but can't bring myself to do it.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

I can call my mother, she'll add you to her prayer chain. Just kidding, she doesn't have a prayer chain, and she prays on her drive to work in the morning, so you're too late. No prayers for you!

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

If you don't know the date, which day of the week?
My classes are M and W nights from 5:30-9:30pm. Maybe around 7:30?

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

Kenan, if we ever get our stupid couch, you can have our stupid papazan chair. In the meantime, make your own beanbag couch.

xpost - okay. Just tell me the date when you know. I have classes those nights, but in my experience, teachers are pretty cool with students missing their classes for things like giving worker rights lectures to immigrant ESL students. And I am definitely cool with missing class.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.jesuslist.com/blog/images/pray.jpg

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:35 (nineteen years ago)

That's word,we pray (pray)
Ah,yeah,pray (pray)
We got to pray
Just to make it today
I said we pray (pray)
ah, yeah, pray (pray)
We got to pray
Just to make it today
That's word, we pray

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

That's word.

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

Yaaay! Thank you Yenny. It will be sometime in the next three weeks. In the meantime, I will take this to email.

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

workers' rights kill threads dead.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:04 (nineteen years ago)

My job is interesting to a point, but it also doesn't pay very well, and it involves very little human interaction.

Not that all of our history books are 100% historically accurate (AHAHAHAHAHAHA) but it's not like they're full of the glory of our almighty king either.

True. I realized at my last job that historical truth can be a slippery thing. You find a book that tells a story of a battle in the American Revolution, and its author is repeating what he read in an older book, and that author is repeating what he read in an even older book, and you just have to take it on faith that the guy reporting the battle in the colonial gazetteer had his facts straight, or that no one made a typo along the way.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

I have to go have special pictures taken of mine eyeballs this afternoon, because my right side cornea is fuuuuucked.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

is it wednesday? i think i might be going to dive on the near south side for karaoke. which i will not participate in.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:23 (nineteen years ago)

What's wrong with your cornea?

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

Dan! That's bad news. Was there an injury?

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:32 (nineteen years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keratoconus

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:37 (nineteen years ago)

AAAHHHHHH. Did you know this was developing??

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

OH GOD warn the squeamish about the big weird eyeball picture next time OKAY PLEASE THANK YOU.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry.

No, I didn't know it was developing, but I reading about it now I had some of the classic symptoms, like sensitivity to light and streaking.

The upside of all this is because I actually have a "condition", my contacts will (should) be paid for by my HMO because they are "medically necessary" and not just cosmetic (in which case I would get a whole whopping $75 towards their price).

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

Ouch, Dan. I remember you talking about this before, I think?

I have huge eye issues and can't even think about this directly.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:49 (nineteen years ago)

like sensitivity to light and streaking.

So that's why you keep taking your clothes off and running through the streets of Chicago.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Heh. Halloweeny.

I asked my fam what they wanted for Christmas, and my youngest sis said she wants this french cinema pass to see as many movies as she wants all year. It's $271! Um, no.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 14:52 (nineteen years ago)

Cool! Which sub-species will you be?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6057734.stm

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yay, I'm the origin of the better species!

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42207000/jpg/_42207552_evolution4.jpg

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

I'm tall.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

W. T. F. THAT DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE. NON-BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE HAVE OFFSPRING TOO, YOU KNOW.

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Clowns,

My replacement is Hired.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

Yes, but they are ugly and part of the lower species, obviously.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

Yay, Jesse! Ya'll come back now, ya hear?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

(xp) YAY YOU CAN COME BACK TO CHICAGO NOW!!!!

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:06 (nineteen years ago)

I want to be a member of the species with the bigger penises and pert breasts.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

The past 24 hours of my life has been spent trying to come up with intelligent questions and relevant comments. Sometimes I didn't know what to say until I opened my mouth. I was impressed with the stuff my brain said.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

That pic reminds me of my middle school Spanish text book that had a cartoon for FEA.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

And the glossy hair, don't forget the glossy hair.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Short people don't have to be dim-witted, ugly, squat goblin-like creatures. :(

The Milkmaid (82375538-A) (The Milkmaid), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago)

Don't you think the lower species looks asian??

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of which, I've been thinking about getting into Randy Newman.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:10 (nineteen years ago)

i'm confused about how attractiveness will suddenly become joined w/ intellect. As a smart ugly person i demand answers.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

They got little hands
Little eyes
They walk around
Tellin' great big lies
They got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear platform shoes
On their nasty little feet

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:13 (nineteen years ago)

Now I'm going to a lunch meeting with some event planners where I'll sit and look pretty and try to make some intelligent noises. I am seriously a figurehead.

Smrt and pretty: that's me.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:14 (nineteen years ago)

You're a lame duck, Jesse.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

Jaymc: Randy Newman is great. Check out 12 Songs, Sail Away, and Good Ol' Boys.

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago)

look athletic, and have squarer jaws, deeper voices and bigger penises.

Ummmm... I don't know about he voice, but this guy doesn't exactly exhibit the other 3 features.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

My replacement is smart fer real. He wrote some books and stuff. I think one is called "God, G@ys and Gun5"

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

I can't see the pic, jesse.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:18 (nineteen years ago)

Not Found
The requested URL /look athletic, and have squarer jaws, deeper voices and bigger penises. was not found on this server.

Apache/1.3.33 Server at ilx.wh3rd.net Port 80

Man or Astroman? is totally rocking my ass right now.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

http://static.flickr.com/50/273186663_97651095ce_m.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

Should we cut this thread off at 3000 posts this time?

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

Sure.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

Randy Newman is fantastic.

deej.. (deej..), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:46 (nineteen years ago)

Wow, I just got a scan of an article written about my dad from a magazine in Turkey. Does anyone speak Turkish?

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 15:55 (nineteen years ago)

i'm sure lots of Turks do dan. but i don't know any.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

My old crazy boss was a Turk. I ain't going to call him, though.

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:12 (nineteen years ago)

You could ask Orhan Pamuk, but he just won the Nobel Prize for Literature, so he might be a little busy right now.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

ASK AT YR OWN RISK. Actually, I know a friend of a friend who's Turkish, Dan, but I don't know if I can get hold of him right away. I'll ask, though!

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

Heh, not really looking for a translation or anything (it's kind of long) but it'd be interesting to hear what they're saying about the old man.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

What does your dad do that the Turks are interested in him?

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

He is an industrial archaeologist, and spoke at the opening of some museum over there.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

Dan and dad:

http://www.jamesbondfilme.de/sean_indy2.jpg

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man, that's a new one!

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:46 (nineteen years ago)

SORRY

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

J/K NP D00D

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago)

My father does nothing quite so interesting as tracking down biblical treasure.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

Is it because he's afraid of the rats?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

He has gotten "too old for this shit."

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:06 (nineteen years ago)

Speaking of "too old for this shit," has anyone else seen the trailer for the new Rocky film? Hoo boy. I know Rocky's a dumb jock, but Stallone looks sedated the entire time.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

Just watched it on Apple.com. Oof.

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago)

I think the film could work if they had some fun with it, gave it a little ironic wink-wink, but it just looks so joyless.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Not that I'd probably see it, anyway, but this looks like a big box-office bomb to me.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, who is the audience for this?

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

People who liked the other Rocky movies?

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

I mean, yeah it's going to be bad, but I know at least a few dudes who will see it anyway.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:21 (nineteen years ago)

Not me! In fact, let's talk about something else. Is Amanda feeling better today? Kenan, what are you doing on the apartment front, waiting to hear back?

Laurel (Laurel), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Waiting to hear back. Grr. I need another cigarette.

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

Well, I'm off to the doc's. Covering for all the work I'm missing for these tests is going to be a cast-iron pain in the ass.

daniel striped tiger (OutDatWay), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

Good luck with your cornea, Dan.

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:30 (nineteen years ago)

"It is generally accepted that Algren wrote best about his beloved Chicago. His last Chicago residence was a walk-up apartment on the north side of west Evergreen Street, just east of Damen Avenue, in a neighborhood that was once one of Chicago's toughest and most crowded Polish slums, but is now a gentrified, popular nightlife district."

shit, i walk past there every damn day.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

His home has a little marker outside it showing he lived there, otto.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

How do you like the book?

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

Good luck with your cornea, Dan.

Why do I picture you saying this with a smirk?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

THIS IS NO SMIRKING MATTER THE MAN HAS A CONICAL EYEBALL

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

I need Jesse to call me!

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 17:57 (nineteen years ago)

book was f'ing awesome, can't wait to see the film. i'm stopping by the house today!

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago)

poor frankie machine, i didn't see it coming but it was probably his best option.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 18:11 (nineteen years ago)

Why do I picture you saying this with a smirk?

Because you think I'm a terrible person with no capacity for sympathy?

Party Time Country Female (pullapartgirl), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Jenny is a species from THE FUUUTTTUUURREEE.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

"Cornea" is kind of a funny word.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 18:38 (nineteen years ago)

It's a corny word.

Thomasina Kitten (coco), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 18:39 (nineteen years ago)

LOCAL THREAD KILLED BY DAN'S CORNEA, FILM AT 11.

otto midnight (otto midnight), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 19:12 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.eadshome.com/images/Reznor.jpg

UR THREAD IS DEAD!
AND NO ONE CARES!

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago)

It's about time for a new thread anyway.

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

i just had a great lunch. it was free. we're looking at conference facilities and we checked out the L0ewe's because it's the only union hotel in town. Duck confit with yummy spinach and some risotto. And turtle soup.

I got confused, I killed a horse (unclejessjess), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago)

Chicago: Sweater weather

this, however, is the crucial moment from the libertine's point of view (kenan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 20:17 (nineteen years ago)


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