Poison -- a thread for the lovers and the haters

at that time, they are so resolutely bubblegum that I find it hard to people don't like them...no machoness to get in the way of all the pop hooks...also, I luv CC Deville as a lead player, much more tuneful and less wanky than lots of the era, and when he was wanky it had a certain "hey ma look what I can do!" gooniness that is infectious....like he didn't take it seriously enough to really think of it as anything more than making cool noises....and CC's voice! I mean best speaking voice ever! He sounds like some cigarrette inhaling, grizzled 50s New Yawk diner waitress! (and looks like one too!)

Also, I was in Jr. High at the time and have many fond memories of all the girls in my grade dancing to them at school dances. they were really good for that.....

All this said, they got worse and worse every album, more "serious" and less fun and they thought they were like a real band or something...with some exception like "every rose" and the gooooorgeous and melancholy springsteen thang "fallen angel" (which no one seems to like as much as I do)...

M@tt OTM.

They're the Yellow#5 of Rock.

Rikki Rocket I kiss U!

I HAVE ERECTION!

So in summation, um, Poison: no good.

Thank you for casting your votes.

The Flaming Lips (back in their better days) dedicated two songs on their Oh My Gawd.... album to C.C. Deville.

(making jackoff motion)

?! really! Were they being funny or were they admirers?

"The C.C. in the 'Ode to C.C.' songs is the guy in the band Poison..?? I still think he's great!..." Wayne

Don't do crack, it's a ghetto drug

By the way, in order to be completely unironic from now on, you might want to not call somebody unintelligible in a sentence where you use incorrect grammar: IT'S 'YOU'RE', YOU FUCKTARD!

uh, did it ever occur to you that db and myself may have actually have heard of the NY Dolls and listened to them and be quite aware of their influence on the look of glam rock and might just actually want to talk about Poison without some toolbox bothering us? Fucking find a NY Dolls thread if you want to talk about them....or fuck there's prob. even five threads on solo David Johansen by now if that's yr bag...

god, you have this way of making these completely banal and cliched observations and then acting like you're the first person on earth that's ever said it....

Assume uh = x = a troll. Act accordingly.

You, like the other peons on this board, are really good at drawing inferences that aren't there and making stupid assumptions. But keep on, you're amusing me. :)

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Seriously, uh, get off the crack.

It's easy to categorize and thus distance yourself from something, right? Well, carry on then, if your ignorance makes you feel better.

you idiot.

I mentioned the New York Dolls as an aside, since they did the whole sleaze-drag thing earlier than Poison did the whole OMG WE'RE WOMEN thing. But since you all take everything entirely too seriously here, I'll figure you missed that too.

fyi, this is the only nick I've used in the last four days other than "censored" to my knowledge.

HI DERE

Anyway, Let Us Now Praise Famous Rocketts:

http://www.musicmayhem.com/rikki9.jpg

Yup, Rikki did in fact take it that step and then one more

I think this is sorta key to the appeal. And maybe where the Dolls comparison breaks down - they aspire in different directions? It's what they have in common with Jay-Z?

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-- donut bitch (do...), May 6th, 2004.

I didn't know he had the operation!

man, I have heard Dirty Rotten forever, is it really that good?

So, um, Rob, mellow out a little, all right? Damn.

here's what I think about Dirty Rotten. They're a lot more diverse both conceptually and structurally.

John, I'd appreciate a private e-mail if ya could about uh, in that some input for the mods would be welcome if you know him.

and actually, the reason I didn't read it is because I wasn't here to start an argument over the "existence" of guilty pleasures because first off, I find it a silly issue to begin with--they DO exist for those who allow them to, and vice versa. It isn't some universal truth. It was an example of a potential overanalysis of something I never meant to debate in the first place. I didn't give two shits over than to mention one of those bands was a "guilty pleasure". It's not something that needs geeking on.

As for the rest of the thread, I'm only being half-serious half the time, and nobody seems to get when that is, no matter how obvious I make it. And I'm hardly the only one who acts in such a manner. And it's humorous that all the vile responses came to my dismissal of Poison, which was rather tame, in contrast to Alex, who called them complete and utter shit.

Anywho, though, I don't have much use for a board like this anyway. If I'm around in the next week, I am, and if I'm not, I'm not.

xpost yeah Rob it was a small part, but key: that kinda thing rubs people the wrong way! and then they respond accordingly, and you call them "elitist," which is an insult, and wacky hijinx ensue, and then before you know it there's pictures of Ma$e and animated gifs of the Hammer everywhere

also if you don't know the story of how Alex was greeted when he first came here, it's worth learning

And it's humorous that all the vile responses came to my dismissal of Poison, which was rather tame, in contrast to Alex, who called them complete and utter shit.

The explanation for that is because Alex, who has been here for three years, posted in a self-consciously hyperbolic style about that and many things, and was indeed extremely confrontational first time around, but has proven himself over time to be a good feller through and through. There wouldn't be all the love for him, his wife and their baby on the appropriate thread for his newborn on ILE if he hadn't shown that.

You're a new poster, so directly comparing your situation and his would be unfair. But your claims of being 'obvious' are not going over well, at all, and the fault of that is yours, when every response you to give any post is mockery or condescension about how you were misunderstood. It's boring, like I said.

You can either choose to contribute something to this board -- I'll grant a couple of posts where you have -- or you can keep standing on your soapbox being incredibly self-satisfied about everything and making fun of just about everyone for not being you. Which would you rather?

See, 90% of your posts on "this board" have been basically "this board sucks". You sound like an aggressive drunken homeless person who just decided to take out your anger at the nearest convenience store.

Half the threads here involve people going at each other and saying "this sucks", and "that sucks". Now, saying something "sucks" is a matter of opinion, and that's obvious. However, saying certain things sucked my first few days here drew me a lot more ire than others.

Then in the Beastie Boys thread, I admit I stutter-stepped a bit because I got frustrated by Rollie's continual presumptions (after one post he assumed I hated all gangsta rap, and then wrote a 3 paragraph essay where twice he insinuated I was a racist despite no indications of such BS at all, simply because our rap tastes differed and I said Jay-Z sucked.)

If any of you all think I have an ego, that'd be a laugh riot. If you met me in real life, you'd notice my inability to look people in the eye, my stuttered manner of speaking, my dour expression, and how sometimes it looks like it pains me to smile. That's me. Not 'depressed', just rather unconfident and self-esteem deficient. If you think I've been hard on some of you all, just imagine how I am to myself 7 days a week. But no, I don't think you'd be able to pick me out of a crowd in real life. I'm fairly mellow, a little overanxious at times, but non-confrontational. I have a lot of insight into myself...and a lot of it bothers me.

However, both here and the real world, if I feel threatened, I get cat-like. Sometimes a little overboard.

GAH! WA? man is that bobby dahl on the left?? what's up with CC looking all Depeche Mode?? What year is that from?

(x-post becuz people won't stop feeding the bears)

So I'll grant you that, with understanding. But I draw a very VERY clear distinction between your claims of feeling misrepresented on one thread and the, to be blunt, shit-stirring you've done elsewhere. That isn't because you were cornered in most instances, you came in dismissive, you continued being dismissive, you endlessly claimed you were being misunderstood and everyone else somehow lacked the intellectual ability to notice when you were being clever.

If you want to act that way all the time, get used to being regarded that way all the damn time. If you feel you have to blow up every damn time someone disagrees with you, then get used to being seen as someone who can only do that, every time, any time, ALL the time.

Otherwise, chill the fuck out. I'm not saying this because I'm mad at you, but because I'm mad at the situation. These boards, for all their frustrations and problems and more, thrive because they have value for those who post here, even if only on a few threads for a few folks. We welcome it as an oasis in the Net where there's too much stupid shit already. If you dropped the confrontationalism and took several deep breaths, you might realize you've found something that's infinitely better for everyone when not every post or every opinion is a trigger for lashing out or defense.

The choice, like I said, is yours.

yeah....like Bobby in that picture...my heart breaks every time I see an 80s pop metal guy trying to look all late-90s alternative.

I'm offerin' this as Exhibit A in my case for uh (who REALLY needs to change his login name 'cause "uh" is mad awkward) as guy capable of sayin' truly funny shit who's just havin' a fiery entrance into ilx

xpost I do gotta say, the good-manners thing to do when one's trying to funny and people aren't getting the joke is to say "damn, my bad, I thought that was funny" instead of accusing people of not havin' a sense of humor

The problem with that is I'll wind up being more prolific than Merzbow.

that song..."COME HEAR THE MUSIC" or something

SCORPIONS! BELL BIV DEVOE! GET TO TACO BELL BEFORE THEY GO!

COLLECT ALL 5 FREE ROCK-ART CUPS YEAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Whoa, Ned is pissed!! I don't think I've ever read him use the f-word at someone. (Does anyone else feel like the school headmaster just said "fuck"?)

I know you all think of me as mainly a nice guy who likes My Bloody Valentine and Tolkien and stuff. Yeah, well, there's another thing about me you may not know:I hate every last fucking one of you.. I would kill you all if my rage didn't immobilize me most of the time.

*straps self with Tec & banana clip* ;)
-- Ned Raggett (ne...), March 2, 2002.

But I came for the wealth of information and chatter about stuff I like, and I'll stay for it, too.

"Nice shoes. Wanna CeCe DeVille?"

(haha x-post!)

Bret: Misssster Rocket?
Ricki: (plays the opening drum intro)
Bret: Thank yooooou!

What makes it great is the ridiculously hairmetal 80's rockstar affectation to his voice. God, Bret Michaels really was the worst frontman ever.

http://www.xcen.net/forums/images/avatars/gallery/other/limozeen.jpg

didn't they admit in the BTM that the only reason they let him in the band was he had his own PA?

Greatest band ever. Check out Hollyweird, that's a pretty great album, especially "Stupid, Stoned and Dumb".

It was on the soundtrack to Less Than Zero, which might or might not still be in print.

But do you love POISON DONUTS?

...worth picking up in any event for Slayer's cover of "Inna Gadda Davida", Glen Danzig's "You & Me" and the Bangles' "Hazy Shade of Winter".

Poison remain i ndefensibly lame lightweightss

In the '80s, I just saw Poison as a vacuous, cartoonish pop-metal band (and I like that sort of thing when it's good, but Poison at their most okay were only "good" with the scarequotes and disclaimers attached). Having watched the Behind the Music though, I get a nice chuckle that they've mutated from cartoons into underground comix -- they're basically all the faggy old trash-punkers befouling the barstools on Avenue B on a given weeknight, lisping their way through a progress report on "the program." It's endearing as hell.

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/drf500/f532/f53299uy58r.jpg

The secret winner on the Less Than Zero soundtrack is Roy Orbison singing "Life Fades Away," which was either written or cowritten by Glenn D. It actually ends the film and while I'm sure I would laugh at the movie if I saw it again -- I picked up the soundtrack because I had actually seen it in theaters on first release, god help me, and it was the first CD I had ever bought! -- I remember the song working very well in context.

All these guys are MUCH more entertaining as washed up Guitar Center salesmen or third-rate Tromafilm bit players than they were as "rock stars"

Yeah that's exactly the song it reminded me of. You nailed it, I think.

Liking Poison is elitist?

isn't that part of their charm though? not that i really care about them either, but that's sort of why people still love them: they're fun, cheesy, and disposable.

A Los Angeles judge sentenced the Poison guitarist to 80 days behind bars after he pleaded no contest Monday to driving under the influence and causing injury.

DeVille, whose real name is Bruce Johannesson, was also slapped with five years' probation, ordered to pay a $1,000 fine and had his drivers license revoked for one year.

The hair band survivor, now 43, got into trouble back on Aug. 24, when he backed out of his girlfriend's home and slammed into a parked car, causing airbags to deploy in his vehicle and injuring his companion. Police later determined that DeVille had been intoxicated.

http://us.news3.yimg.com/us.i2.yimg.com/p/eo/20051025/capt.27ad60f135cb8d7f5dd33ed379620b75.jpg?x=130&y=170&sig=9hvvBtZIM3R4pMa55cGxqA--

(nothing more to say)

http://www.davidleeroth.com
http://www.davidleeroth.com/images/dlrhomepage2.jpg

Arguable statement.

These guys basically suck. "Unskinny Bop" is cool.

also wierd music thing on that show: the "slobby" one (wears baseball hat and lives in their carriage house and works as a security guard) wears a Son Volt shirt with amazing regularity!

THE THINGS YOU LEARN WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE CABLE, BUT STILL WaTCH A SHITLOAD OF TV!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7320287.stm
Rikki Rockett, drummer for US rock band Poison, has been arrested for rape in Los Angeles.

Rockett - real name Richard Ream - was held after a woman filed a complaint claiming she had been raped at a casino in Neshoba, Mississippi.

A police spokesperson said prosecutors were deciding whether the star would be sent back to Mississippi.

The 46-year-old musician, who was unavailable for comment, has been released from police custody.

The band, who are best known for releasing the song Talk Dirty to Me, was founded in the 1980s by Rockett and singer Bret Michaels.

Okay 3 things:

1. Fuck fucking rapists.
2. I had been under the assumption he was gay. Not that gay people can't rape women and not that straight men can't wear eyeliner well into middle age, but...
3. Entirely unrelated but, http://youtube.com/watch?v=F14xVL5SwPI

in true ilm style this shouldve been a rikki rockett whats on yr ipod thread

Rikki no, say it isn't true :(

(yes, innocent til proven guilty obviously. we'll see. Still, just the idea really fucking bums me out.)

Wow, I totally forgot about Uh. Painful to read back.

Maybe he will get to make hamburgers in prison.

Wow, a guy named Dick Ream arrested for rape. The pornographer in me is doubled over laughing.

in true ilm style this shouldve been a rikki rockett whats on yr ipod thread

Most suitable answer = "I Hate Every Bone In Your Body But Mine

Do lovers of Poison exist?

They must be melodic enough for you.

Latebloomer's link from another thread
http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=c7127091-b8d1-450c-a59d-f1af8d346c45&entry=index&loc=interstitialskip

Poison's haters might enjoy seeing Bret Michaels get flattened by some scenery at the Tony Awards:

http://www.queerty.com/the-tony-awards-talking-point-bret-michaels-falls-on-his-ass-20090607/

the close-up view is better IMO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JocPcYBCN18&annotation_id=annotation_823724&feature=iv

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

gotta love that fade

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1613466/20090608/bret_michaels.jhtml

still love that just blaze remix

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM43vA3BjQw

It's just really entertaining the way he's like, swaggering back while we all watch this thing descending straight onto his head

(I feel for the guy with his broken nose and all, but I hope he'd agree that if you are going to break a nose in a mishap like this, it might as well be as hilarious as possible for everyone else's enjoyment)

Also it should happen at the Tonys. The lead singer of Poison should get injured at the Tonys

lolz followed by Stockard Channing?!?

Well DONE

it is quite nearly a perfect storm of hilariousness

also it is a warning to fans of hair-metal: you think Broadway is lame? yeah well those people know how to HIT THEIR MARKS

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20363506,00.html?hpt=T2

^^brain hemorrhage btw

Poison decreases sperm count.
They're the Yellow#5 of Rock.

― uh (eetface), Wednesday, May 5, 2004 8:29 PM

???????

LOS ANGELES – Bret Michaels is in critical condition suffering from a brain hemorrhage, his publicist said Friday. Joann Mignano confirmed a report on People magazine's website Friday that said the former Poison frontman was rushed to intensive care late Thursday after a severe headache. The report said doctors discovered bleeding at the base of his brain stem.

Mignano said tests are being conducted and that no further information was available.

The 47-year-old reality TV star had an emergency appendectomy last week after complaining of stomach pains. He said on his website that though the surgery "has taken its toll," doctors expected him to make a full recovery.

Michaels starred on the VH1 dating show "Rock of Love" and is a contestant on Donald Trump's NBC reality show, "The Celebrity Apprentice."

Trump said in a statement Friday that he was "deeply saddened" to hear of Michaels' condition.

"He's a great competitor and champion, and I hope he will be fine," Trump said.

are any celebrities safe?

"The 47-year-old reality TV star" i know Poison are pretty forgettable but c'mon now, give him some respect while he goes through this.

Livin' my life, sin after sin...oops.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/936808_3190062848406_226890525_n.jpg

Mah eyes!

Not a bad chorus in search of better trash.

Talk Dirty To Me is pretty decent but man this is a terrible band. Bret Michaels is a corny enough frontman to make Mark Slaughter look like Marc Bolan.

open up and say arse

Oh my god look what the feral cat that lives in the backwoods where Mandy was a documentary dragged in.

This is what C.C. Deville from Poison looks like now?! He looks like he's in a band I would possibly go see?? pic.twitter.com/zTTsH8iPtw

— Nacho Man Sandy Cabbage (@TreeBeerd) June 6, 2022

make sure to tape the setlist to his forehead and put a mirror in front of him

Maybe him, Kip Winger, Jeff Pilson and Bobby Blotzer are starting a new Cascadian black metal project.

hey Rikki Rockett!

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/rikki-rockett-homophobic-rock/?fbclid=IwAR2f8kfB_t3LiqQ8hwIGEfy7JIDSQ7xDVE8Yj3A9a0yJdHjpXs4sdQNZNfY

kinda cool to see from someone who theoretically has a lot more fear of pushback from his audience than most

“What we were doing was a social, cultural movement,” Rockett recalled. “It really set America and the world on fire in a lot of ways”

Um