ILM Top 100 2000-2004: TRACKS

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the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 100

Points: 123
No. of votes: 6
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: MYSTIKAL
Title: BOUNCIN' BACK
Label: JIVE
Year: 2002

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Rasping over a standard Neptunes production but with a cool brass hook, Mystikal manages to respond to, amongst other things, the hataz holding him back as ever AND the events of 9/11...

Comments:
'Bouncin' Back' totally won me over to Mystikal. A great shame about his predicament. (read more)
Alex in NYC

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 99

Points: 124
No. of votes: 6
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: MUM
Title: THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SMALL THINGS
Label: TUGBOAT
Year: 2002

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Whimsy melodic lullaby for baby robots, from the album Yesterday Was Dramatic, Today Is OK.

Comments: n/a

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

This is exciting.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 98

Points: 127
No. of votes: 6
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: STEREO TOTAL
Title: L'AMOUR A TROIS
Label: Analog Baroque
Year: 2001

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Kitsch electro pop done only as a French/German girl/boy duo could possibly know how.

Comments:
The only non-English-speaking track in the top 100.
blueski

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

hurray. my nomination made it!

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:15 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 97

Points: 127
No. of votes: 7
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: SUGABABES
Title: RUN FOR COVER
Label: London
Year: 2001

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Quirky trio foretelling their impending but brief spell in the pop wilderness? Hindsight a wonderful thing, as is this busy piano-led string-laden mournful ode with obligatory 'angry' bit (check that middle eight).

Comments:
It's much better than you might remember, and it atones for the omission in the nominees list of EVERY OTHER SINGLE THEY'VE RELEASED (apart from 'Shape' obv.).
blueski

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 96

Points: 136
No. of votes: 6
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: THE SILVER JEWS
Title: I REMEMBER ME
Label: Domino
Year: 2001

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From the pictured album Bright Flight, a charming nostalgic net of an anecdote capturing the hapless butterfly of lost romance, plodding but never losing it's generally satsified perspective.

Comments: n/a

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

wait a minute...isn't that Gear's couch?!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

gahh!!!

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish I'd remembered to vote. "Run For Cover" is one of my very favourites, so yay for it being in.

edward o (edwardo), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 95

Points: 141
No. of votes: 4
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: BRITNEY SPEARS
Title: ANTICIPATING
Label: Jive
Year: 2002

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Ms Spears with a vague Chic vibe and predictable sexually-orientated lyrics (albeit tame compared to her later efforts) for a lighter more pedestrian result but retaining that all important feelgood factor. Alan Braxe worked his electro-disco magic for a superior remix.

Comments: n/a

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Stereo Total, but there was just no room, sadly. The Run For Cover sleeve seems to have foretold Siobhan's leaving the group (witness Mutya "cutting her eye"). Sadly, I still haven't heard the original 'Anticipating'. Is it cos I'm slow?

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Monday, 16 August 2004 19:05 (twenty-one years ago)

It was a single in France I think but Jive apparently considered it too weak for a release in the UK, and I have to agree, the Braxe mix still rocks my world tho so I'm glad it's here.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Where was the voting thread? I forgot about this.

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 16 August 2004 19:08 (twenty-one years ago)

It's been revived like every day, milo! And I put a link on ILE's 'What's good on ILM?' thread.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

can these and the albums be put into a nice html table, please?

comme personne (common_person), Monday, 16 August 2004 19:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I think stevem's planning to put them all up on a webpage afterwards.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a Festive 50 thread for the summer!

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 16 August 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

But with good stuff (so far).

Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Track 95 will be by Miss Black America. Or Cinerama.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Where is all the world music I championed?

John Tico Peel (Tico Tico), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Next we come to a track that... well, I've never played on the radio.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

How many people voted, anyway?

JoB (JoB), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I think stevem said it was six.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

YAY BRITNEY!!!!!!

i wonder who was the other ilm'er that picked "Anticipating" for #1...

overall, nice'n'varied selection so far - hope it stays that way right til the end.

Mind Taker, Monday, 16 August 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 94

Points: 145
No. of votes: 8
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: THE WU-TANG CLAN (FT ISAAC HAYES)
Title: I CAN'T GO TO SLEEP
Label: Sony
Year: 2001

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From the pictured album The W, a vivacious thundering epic of a song - in a fit of desperation the Clan turning to the paternal, even Godlike composure of Hayes and his version of the glorious 'Walk On By'. In the video Hayes acts as a benevolent Sandman re-assuring the RZA (practically bawling his eyes out brilliantly here) and co. as they toss and turn throughout the night, at their wits end from recollecting lifetimes of oppression. Despite it's earnest, even pompous bluster it's potential to draw lumps in the most cynical purists' throats should not be underestimated.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Quite so.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

That's my first choice to make it. It wouldn't be in the top 100 without my 36 points. I feel important.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 23:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Right, at this highly ironic point, I shall now go to sleep. Keep it up, steve.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 93

Points: 148
No. of votes: 5
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: QUANNUM (FEATURING LATYRX & LYRICS BORN)
Title: I CHANGED MY MIND
Label: Quannum Projects
Year: 1999/2000

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That opening guitar lick and the bar that forms the bones of this instant classic (I'm addressing the Stereo MCs Rattlesnake mix in particular)...it almost sums it all up in the opening seconds. But then the beat drops, with the taut resilient but gentle bass...get walking son. When Lyrics Born breezes in it's as if everyone who already started dancing to this out of sheer compulsion has turned to face the intruder, but they don't stop nodding and strutting for a second. You almost expect LB to croak "I've been thinking bout what you have done to me" such is the similarity to Stretch's moody funk classic of the same name, but we get essentially an update on that with a more upbeat, defiant message. Like whatever dude, just keep nodding. And walking. And full marks to the Shadow once again.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 92

Points: 148
No. of votes: 7
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: ARCHIGRAM
Title: CARNAVAL
Label: Crydamoure
Year: 2002

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The way this track shuffles in so understated - you have no idea what's it going to go and where it's going to take you. I'm not sure I've ever heard a house/disco track build in such subtle fashion, just like the carousel grinding into motion, lights glowering into life and then throbbing in perfect time to the persistent beat. When the bassline drops you feel it here (points to gut), soft but satisfying. And what then? A blast from a blaring diva? No. An electric guitar solo ala 'Aerodynamic'? No. A fanfare. A cavalry, charging from the horizon straight into your bombarded mind, and your helpless feet. And it gets clearer and clearer, until one final minute where your brain, your feet, your entire being becomes completely spaghettified. One more time...

MY ROCKIST SHAME!!! So I'm tidying up and "Carnival" by Archigram comes on and as you do I find myself bopping around the room, and then it suddenly dawns on me that I'm not just dancing, oh no, in fact I am playing air guitar to the track. You can take the boy out of the indie, etc etc. Tom Ewing

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

HA HA HA! That was my #1, baby!

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

People Steve, the Spinna and Votel mixes of the Quannum are comfortably the more definitive versions.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know 'Carnaval' - sounds good!

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

do you know, I still haven't heard the Alan Braxe mix of "Anticipating". Is it really better?!

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)

NO.

jess, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh it so is, and whichever mix of Quannum that goes with the video is the one I mean

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 91

Points: 150
No. of votes: 8
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: AALIYAH
Title: MORE THAN A WOMAN
Label: Virgin America
Year: 2002

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Released after her tragic young death and subsequently topping the UK charts, doing a lot better than several previous singles all just as worthy of the same success if not more so (inc. Try Again, noticeably absent from the nominees list). Timbaland takes SWV's chilled 'Can We' and adds tuffer beats, boisterous brass and bold strings to pleasant effect. Aaliyah does her usual thing, a sweet if unremarkable performance (maybe she'd weep if she wasn't just too damn cool) but the trick with this partnership was they always managed to make a product greater than the sum of it's parts.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I always find such an undertow of sadness in 'More Than A Woman' and it annoys me that I can't tell if its just because of its posthumous release.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, that's a lot lower than I thought it would be, I love that record (obviously not enough to give it max points though, I may have under-rated it)

Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I think a lot of Aaliyah's songs have dark undertones anyway... that is much lower than it deserves, but maybe the vote was split with "We Need A Resolution"... which I think I voted for instead.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's more the kick of the strings' revs that gets me as much as her vocal.

It annoys me that I can't tell if I've been influenced by the images of her on a motorbike in making this analogy.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck, I really want to listen to it now and I don't have my iPod with me.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:58 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 90

Points: 153
No. of votes: 10
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: TOGETHER
Title: SO MUCH LOVE TO GIVE
Label: Roule/EMI
Year: 2002

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I want to post some comments Ronan made on this track ages ago here but ILX won't let me just yet. But basically they helped convince me this track was more than just a monotonous joke stretched too far. What's exciting is picking up on the subtle changes unconsciously while lost in this groove - the synth like a running engine sweeping and swirling in and out and in again. Do Bangalter and Falcon view photographs like static memories they want to climb into and explore? They seem to treat music this way too. SMLTG is like an audio snapshot of a revolving roller-disco - mirrors on every wall projecting infinity like a TV picture within itself, fruit machines jammed and paying out in abundance, sucking you into the memory like a vacuum, to a place so gleaming with joy and life you want to preserve and playback the moment forever.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Why are so many great records coming in the lower reaches of this? Curse you ILM.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

what Steve said yes. This was my number one track, it brings joy to my heart and a bounce to my step. and it always makes me think of my wife smiling.

It's beautiful

Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 89

Points: 157
No. of votes: 5
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: GRANDADDY
Title: THE WARMING SUN
Label: V2
Year: 2003

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From the pictured album Sumday, a glittering, sprawling recollection of a lost dream - the sadness doesn't seem to come right through (maybe he doesn't know how to let it) but the sentiment is there.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Weird: was that even a single?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I sense the start of shit streak.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm worried that i didn't strategize my vote enough. are there a large proportion of people who voted for 10 or less tracks?

tricky disco (disco stu), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Strategized votes are killing music.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah - were we allowed to throw extra points at a track/album if we didnt vote for 10 or 15?

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

(jaymc: the rule was tracks, not only singles. hence vladislav delay's "anima" making the noms)

tricky disco (disco stu), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Strategized votes are killing music

haha, i felt so dirty after i clicked the submit button!

tricky disco (disco stu), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah - were we allowed to throw extra points at a track/album if we didnt vote for 10 or 15?

No, we weren't.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i believe the points trickle up automatically. stevem, can you explain?

tricky disco (disco stu), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

(jaymc: the rule was tracks, not only singles. hence vladislav delay's "anima" making the noms)

No, no, I realize this. I understand it being nominated if it was one person's favorite track on Sumday. What I don't get is five whole people agreeing with such an unconventional choice. I mean, I like that album, but I can't even think of how that song goes: I'd have been more tempted to vote if "Now It's On" or "El Caminos in the West" was nominated.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

It got a few high scores, suggesting more than one person really does love the song rather than just liking Grandaddy in general and acknowledging their representation here.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 88

Points: 158
No. of votes: 9
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: KYLIE MINOGUE
Title: COME INTO MY WORLD (FISCHERSPOONER REMIX)
Label: EMI
Year: 2002

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If the intention was to mash-up 'Emerge' with 'Can't Get You Out Of My Head' - two of the best dance tracks of the decade - here then respect is due. It doesn't quite come off as good as either of the aforementioned songs though - caught between the two stools of club cred (the stark zero-resonant synths and thudding 909 beats are retained) and pop sensibilities (Kylie's rinsed vox still scattered throughout) as it is - but seeing as they're not around right now...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think there was any trickle up. If you didn't use all your votes then you just lost the unused points.

Jay - surely people will often vote for whatever tracks by a favourite band are available to vote for, even it it wouldn't be their personal choice. I was like that with Superpitcher.

x-post

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, understood, sorry about that. i think it comes down to strategy once again. the song may not be your favorite but if it's the only song in the noms from said group then you might vote for it just because you really like the group, etc. (xpost)

tricky disco (disco stu), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i didnt do that (what alba said). if i didnt think a track or an album was feasibly one of the best of the decade i didn't vote for it. For example i didnt vote for "Country on the Click" beacause i think the best fall album of the past 5 years is "The Unutterable", so no Fall votes from me in spite of the fact they are one of my favourite bands. As a result of this i only voted for (i think) seven albums and nine tracks in total.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it would've been better to always pick 15 of both personally but that's more to do with the nature of the poll. Each to their own of course...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

stevem - this is the genius bit! A real time drip drip drip results service with plenty of time for aggro on the way up the chart. I'm so excited I don't want to leave work (and I've never said that before). What *will* number 87 be?

I had Kylie as my number 18 or whatever, so glad to see she made it without me.

Jamie T Smith, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, well I do love 'Heroin'. Just not as much as 'The Long Way' or 'To Turn You On', say.

If I really didn't like a nominated track or album by an otherwise favoured artist then I didn't vote for it. (like with B&S's last, which has a handful of great tracks and some guff that prevents me from really wanting to listen to the whole thing).

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

im beginning to regret my strategy a little.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 87

Points: 162
No. of votes: 7
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: OUTKAST (FEATURING KILLER MIKE)
Title: THE WHOLE WORLD
Label: LaFace
Year: 2002

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I remember this being one of the first hits I heard with an obvious (if not literal) reference to the political situation at the time. Andre's heavy sigh at the beginning the perfect 'well, on with the show" statement before confessing he's afraid as well. There's a back-to-basics feel about the whole thing yet at the time it felt quite different to everything else out there in mainstreamland, rhythmically, vocally and lyrically...the point at which Killer Mike is introduced halfway through seems to act as a little 'sit up' point for anyone slumping from the effortless plod of the track up to that point, but it's lively stuff throughout - even Big Boi's monotone tongue-twisting rhymes at the end.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh carp. And by that, I do mean carp.

Is the "Come Into My World" remix mentioned here the same one that's in the video? If so, shame on me for not voting for it.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Video mix = original mix. FS remix = WE ARE KYLIE-FUCKING ROBOTS WITH FUNNY HAIRCUTS

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish I'd nominated System Of a Down.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 23:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i forgot to say 'The WHole World' remains great because it reminds me of 'Addams Groove'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 86

Points: 165
No. of votes: 9
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: DEAD PREZ
Title: HIP HOP
Label: Loud
Year: 2000

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Like classic PE, militant noise you can roll, bounce and shake to.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)

hurry up! i'm getting an ulcer here!

jess, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 85

Points: 166
No. of votes: 10
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: THE STREETS
Title: THE IRONY OF IT ALL
Label: Locked On
Year: 2001

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One of the highlights from 'Original Pirate Material', Mike Skinner's amusing social commentary on the hypocrisy and double-standards surrounding the culture of drinking and smoking in society...the beauty being it transcends that to touch on class and character divides (middle class student vs about-town hooligan), with the change in music highlighting the conflict and contrast further but the tongue always remaining in cheek. It may not be the most inspired, radical observation to make but that doesn't make it any less true. And more importantly, it's bloody hilarious (as is the video natch).

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:51 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 84

Points: 168
No. of votes: 9
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: BLUR
Title: OUT OF TIME
Label: Parlophone
Year: 2003

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(ILX server too busy again for search results...help!)...I don't know, perhaps this will be considered one of the most surprising appearances in the list for many. Something you either love or loathe? If it CAN stir one of those emotions in you then it can't be all bad. What I do like about it is some of the effects - Albarn's ghostly echoes of himself when 'feeling the sunshine' a confused mix of relief and despair, the subtle change in tone of the track as it turns, slowly, that corner from A to B, it's disregard for conventional song formula (when is a verse not a verse? can a bridge be a bridge if there is no chorus? if a tree falls in the forest but only Damon Albarn is there to hear it, does anyone still give a shit?) and the way it somehow ends with a cool sun peeking out from the grim overcast nature of the previous three minutes. I don't know how relevant it is that it's a Blur song...it seems to be trying not to be a Blur song, or even a song at all, which can be construed as intriguing, five out of every ten seconds...wait I've got it. If a tree falls in the forest ON Damon Albarn, THEN this song would make sense. Maybe THAT's why it's here.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:50 (twenty-one years ago)

good description steve. I liked Out of Time a lot.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:06 (twenty-one years ago)

i was going to ask you to write something about it ;) that was a struggle - I think I like it more than the Grandaddy one but these two are my least favourite tracks in the list so far (and I can't help thinking I'm not alone here).

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I quite like the Silver Jews one tho, having only heard it for the first time just before I posted it.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

The Blur single is the first genuinely shit record to make an appearance here. Otherwise this is a great list so far.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

It's hard to believe that Blur have done so little in the noughties. We've had Gorillaz, that one shitty non-album single and Think Tank. I'd forgotten "13" was in 1999.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Why hard to believe? They've had the usual problems for a band who've been going for around 15 years.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy shit, there's a video for "The Irony Of It All"!?!? God that's a great song.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i've got the video - if anyone wants to download it, gmail me and i'll work something out

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)


No. 83

Points: 173
No. of votes: 8
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: BLACK DICE
Title: THINGS WILL NEVER BE THE SAME
Label: Fat Cat
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/thingswillneverbethesame.jpg

From the pictured album Beaches & Canyons, just under 10 minutes long, tall, dark waves of...something else. Emoceanal, you might say, if you're looking for a slap.

Comments: This (album) rules, straight up. It could use a little more variation, but the screaming feedback/drone/noise/electronic bleeps n' blips make a great soundtrack to being stoned out of your gourd, going to sleep, or driving late at night. The only complaint I've ever heard by someone I've played it for is that "YOU PLAY THIS ALL THE TIME. I AM SICK OF IT. IT SOUNDS LIKE ELEPHANTS DYING." by my girlfriend... Ian Johnson

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

not so much "i expected more", but just that I was about to say something like "Coffee and TV" would have been a better choice - that's if it had come out this decade. Sure, Blur are nowhere close to what they used to be back in the day. However the fact that "Out Of Time", a middling song by anyone's standards, is their best effort from the last four years, well it's a bit of a shame really.

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

'Out of time' is my favourite Blur record. I'm not a fan, though.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Blur single is the first genuinely shit record to make an appearance here."

Grrrrrrrr.....

The Avenger, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I think "Out of Time" is pretty gorgeous, actually, not in a OMG way, more like in a OTM way. I'm not sure even I know what I'm trying to say with that statement, btw.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

"...that one shitty non-album single..."

I would have voted for Music Is My Radar if it had been nominated.

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 82

Points: 180
No. of votes: 13
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: TWISTA (FEATURING KANYE WEST & JAMIE FOXX)
Title: SLOW JAMZ
Label: Atlantic
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/slowjamz.jpg

There are huge tunes and then there are HUGE TUNES, tributes and TRIBUTES, cheeky digs at Michael Jackson and CHEEKY DIGS AT MICHAEL JACKSON. This is a kitchen sink affair that not only incorporates the aformentioned elements but adds comedy bongos, sexy low female voices talking, sexy high female voices talking, laid back smooth soul chorus, classic sunshine flavour of bygone eras and breakneck rhymin' from debutant Twista to result in one hell of an anthem. In fact it packs so much into such a small space you might even be left wondering what the fuss is all about just because your ears 'blinked' for that one moment. Apparently though it's all about the Collipark remix. Now, with Vandross being cool again, how long for the Ray Parker Jr and Oran Juice Jones comebacks?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

And it's the second genuinely shit track to appear here.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Not enough Grandaddy hate! ;)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

How can anyone hate "Slow Jamz"?!?! Dom you're mad.

I can't believe anyone could pick out any one Grandaddy song from the rest of their fucking boring songs to nominate or indeed vote for.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't listen to Dom, Slow Jamz is amazing.

Wooden (Wooden), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 81

Points: 180
No. of votes: 7
No. of #1 votes: 3

Artist: SHELLAC
Title: A PRAYER TO GOD
Label: Touch & Go
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/aprayertogod.jpg

Comments: This is the story of Steve losing his girlfriend, but it also manages to show an unseen side of Shellac. Steve is plaintive, almost humble, initially but manages to conceal his feelings of betrayal. When he turns to the man his ire rises, culminating in the plea for his death that dominates the track. That said, his spite is kept restrained till it can be kept in no more, and explodes over the penultimate repetition leaving a shattered man making one last desperate effort. Closes with 'Amen'. Quietly. I actually prefer the cover by Maestro Echoplex, but this is the song to play to people you want to convert to Shellac. aldo cowpat

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I loved "Out of Time". It took a while to grow on me but the sound of it is great, so much space and 'atmosphere' (to get cliched). That blurb by Steve was OTM.

Glad to see my nomination ("Things Will Never Be The Same") made it. I can't remember if that #1 vote was mine.

Reed Rosenberg (reed), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

No it wasn't, so you had me worried I'd missed yours for a second there! I'm sure he won't mind me revealing that it was the lovely Jon Williams who enjoys oceanic elephant death the most.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)


No. 80

Points: 184
No. of votes: 12
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: JAMELIA
Title: SUPERSTAR
Label: Parlophone
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/superstar.jpg

Comments: Common sense suggests that if you laud enough British R&B hopes one of them will end up producing a great single. Plucky Jamelia's breakthrough hit is pretty unassuming, it was only after hearing it about a dozen times that I realised how much I loved the chorus, and it still feels like a sturdy bit of craft in the midst of all these more spectacular pop triumphs. It's a reliable banker for the party DJ too, even if it never raises the roof. But perhaps we should take a moment to appreciate the modest, hard-working pop song - and give three hearty cheers for British engineering excellence, too. Tom Ewing

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

yay for plucky Brits! I think Tom's blurb slightly underrates "Superstar" though, it's not just a sturdy run-of-the-mill pop tune.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm going to be making a big 3CD compilation of this lot.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Wouldn't one mp3 disc do the trick?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

yep, it's all in hand

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 79

Points: 198
No. of votes: 9
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: THE DISMEMBERMENT PLAN
Title: FACE OF THE EARTH
Label: Desoto
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/faceoftheearth.jpg

From the pictured album Change, more charged but staid indie fodder for those that find they like it.

Comments: (All I could find was:) Face of the Earth by the Dismemberment Plan is about your lover disappearing in front of your eyes in a sci-fi stylee...Tom Ewing

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that a mistake?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 14:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i want to see all the nominees again, but the pages seem to have come down. is there an active link?

frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 14:51 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 78

Points: 201
No. of votes: 10
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: ANDREW WK
Title: SHE IS BEAUTIFUL
Label: Mercury
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/sheisbeautiful.jpg

Is she ever. The guitars nag and push more than the rock cliches they reference by being more stripped down harmonically and melodically and more beefed up sonically to the point of being this mass of pop texture. More of a 'real tune' here but not so much so that it's not still something you could beat your head inwards to. Sundar Subramanian

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, I knew this list would run aground somewhere.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

That comment was from here

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 77

Points: 202
No. of votes: 14
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: UNDERWORLD
Title: TWO MONTHS OFF
Label: Junior Boys Own
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/twomonthsoff.jpg

What if you listen to the full length version of this from the A Hundred Days Off album right now? What will it do, if anything? I am listening to it as I write, looking for that same feeling I got when I first heard the radio edit on Radio 1's Essential Selection (again and again a crucial source for hearing the big tunes by the big guys first) over two years ago now. Instant satisfaction. A perfect moment (and I was just kotching at home not doing anything in particular except thinking about where to go later that night). Being able to attach a memory like that to a track always seems to be a major factor in shaping your view of it's quality. On a technical level this is classic Underworld - the influence of Darren Emerson lingering - a broad, nagging, simplistic synth hook (inviting inevitable comparisons with Stardust's 'Music Sounds Better With You', Pete Heller's 'Big Love' and other copycat anthems) suggesting a desire for a 'hit' as much as a return to margin. But add the tumbling bells, the somewhat incongruous, observational speech extracts and a more straightforward, obvious message of love from Karl Hyde and you've got a Summer banger with mass appeal. And I can still get that feeling.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Note: I was not inferring that Stardust and Pete Heller were the copycats

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

SHE IS BEAUTIFUL SHE IS BEAUTIFUL

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Were you implying it?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

i was nothing it

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought "Out Of Time" was the only decent song on that album.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

In "She is Beautiful" when he sings "I ain't got nothin' to lose (nothin' to lose)..." - that moment is the greatest Mary Chain tribute ever.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

thats the one

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 17:03 (twenty-one years ago)

The hybrid guitar/bass solo from "Battery in Your Leg" and the moment that Albarn first goes falsetto in a track the name of which I have momentarily forgotten (or perhaps never bothered to learn) are the only items from Think Tank that truly passed muster for me, and I am a Blur Fan. I like a few songs from the album, but my head and heart aren't in agreement like they usually are with matters Blur.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm guessing everything I voted for bar the 'Babes is coming up next week (yes, I didn't vote Jamelia. I can only really get into it anymore by watching the video, which South African sat-TV luurrrrrrrrrvvvves).

I am a Blur fan and 'Out Of Time' is merely average.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 17:07 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 76

Points: 205
No. of votes: 10
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: THE STARS
Title: ELEVATOR LOVE LETTER
Label: Setanta
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/elevatorloveletter.jpg

Sixpence None The Richer meets Dubstar uptown.

Comments: (It made m tear up) especially the "... I'll take her home after midnight, and if she likes I'll tell her lies, of how we'll be in love by the morning" part. I'm welling up thinking about it right now. Spencer Chow

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Outed as a tweeist.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

That song is also great because of it's portrait of lonely longing lovelorn media professionals who lament "my office glows, all night long, it's a nuclear show, and the stars are gone".

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

why did I forget to vote why did I forget to vote why did I forget to vote argh argh argh

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

if people want to provide comments, gmail me telling me what kind of stuff you'd like to write a paragraph or three about and I'll pick one of the remaining tracks for you (to then be approved or rejected by you). it will speed up the process.

in other news, I THINK I HAVE MADE A MISTAKE! it's not catastrophic at all but it will mean I need to recount votes for one track and the eponymous album it's form. If the missing points remain missing then everything from 86 upwards will move up one place and what would've been 75 will now be 86. Argh. And sorry.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer otm otm otm. I think I totally missed that swoonable track somehow.

bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I regretted not voting for Stars (though it felt like I couldn't help it).

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Every time Spencer talks about Stars I kick myself for not seeing the show last year. What the hell was I thinking?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

neurotic I don't remember if I wrote much in the way of commentary so if you have anything left I wouldn't mind (I don't know how to gmail, I'm such a loser)

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

how to gmail: delete the ANGSTA

i'll mail you tho cheers

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks again for this Stevem, I think it's a great way to remind people of earlier ILM touchstones - I'm especially sympathetic to this project as I feel ILM has veered in another musical direction lately (a direction not to my tastes - haha).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i dont think ive been around long enough to see much change, spencer - can you be more specific without starting a war?

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

ILM is less gay now.

bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think I'm really capable of giving a definitive answer for what my gut-sense tells me has changed. I could say that it's less 'poppist' but that would be misleading as non-pop has always been eagerly embraced here too. I guess I miss the serious-minded and sublime discussion of chart-pop/rap/etc.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

That goes for new dance stuff and cheery indie too.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

fair enough

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, what bnw said, but the macho-ization of ILM has been a recurring criticism (though maybe it's finally really dominant).

Sorry stevem, perhaps this is not the proper thread.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

too much dick waving

artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

http://demodiss.blogspot.com/archive/0402/040216_dicklives.jpg

artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

This is a great, great list. I am downloading Stars now. Also I just put Two Months Off back on again and am remembering how much I loved it...

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

someone should put up all the songs together on slsk

artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess I miss the serious-minded and sublime discussion of chart-pop/rap/etc.

In respects its best defender/exponent, Mr. Ewing himself, has taken that to FT instead of here, though admittedly he made a very interesting post there today regarding reacting to music which I can sympathize with.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, my track pick made the list! I wasn't sure how liked "Two Months Off" was/is by ILXors (and I sort of still don't, I guess).

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

It was a bit of a lukewarm Jamelia write-up wasn't it? Sorry Lex! Stevem asked me to do one and I thought I'd have a stab at it but I didn't vote for her. Of course my notion was that she'd turn up between two glittery pop beauties, not between Steve Albini and an atypically tedious Dismemberment Plan track.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)

The couple of writeups I've submitted have reminded me that I once loved being a student music journalist.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I voted for Two Months Off, in my Top 10, I think.

That Stars track is magnificent. More indie records like this please.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Also I'm going to put my neck on the line now and say that I think One More Time will win this.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i got my money on hey ya

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been betting on Daft Punk, but I actually think Digital Love is the one that might come in for a semi-surprise win.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I dont think OMT will even be the highest Daft Punk track.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

It got a hate vote!

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i think (hope?) "digital love" will win. i know at least four or five people who voted for it as their number one.

jess, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd put a pony on the Avalanches to win.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i couldn't even really do a proper 15 since at least four or five songs i'd put in my top 10 weren't even nominated.

jess, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I've just remembered I've got the actual proper single of the Stars track upstairs. I'm not sure I've ever listened to it. Crikey. I should point out that it really was packaged in a proper envelope. Very possibly with an actual stamp and everything.

And I have this weird feeling ballboy probably won't be looming on the rails to snatch this. Curse me for not noticing the deadline.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Having got Stevem drunk in the pub last week I can say no more about possible outcomes. :(

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

what are the non-nominated songs jess?

artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I bet "Romeo" will do really well.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, Tico.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

kylie - "love at first sight"
andrew wk - "i get wet" (track, not album)
no doubt - "underneath it all" (maybe)
more fire crew - "oi" (maybe)
some other stuff i'm forgetting

jess, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

the kylie oversight is the biggest

jess, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

my number one was "I Luv U"

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

You know, Jess, I was this close to nominating "Love at First Sight" and probably should've, considering that I don't think my Phoenix track will get all that much love.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i blew my nomination on "pulse x" because i don't think i understood the rules fully (i.e. i thought i'd get to nominate again.)

jess, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

My top 15 wasn't genuinely representative, but I can live with it. I stated my 'Digital Love' tip elsewhere, and expect big things for 'Get Ur Freak On', 'Since I Left You' and 'I Luv U' too.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

You nominated "Too Young", jay? I nominated "If I Ever Feel Better", which I think has similarly been overlooked. By fools.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

My #2 was "Heart Failed..." by Saint Etienne naturally

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Nice picks, LA Gear. My number 7 was "I Luv U." My number one was DER STREETZ (obv).

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

If Too Young doesn't make this list there's no justice in the world.

(I didn't vote for it)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

people will be able to download the top 100 from me on slsk: username is bluemondeo

cdr available soon too, YEAH


Swygart and Miccio, post what you would've voted for here! It would be interesting to see...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Having got Stevem drunk in the pub last week I can say no more about possible outcomes

of course being drunk I could've been FIBBINF. Assume NOTHING...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Stars, yay. Thanks, Spencer.

David A. (Davant), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Der Strtz were on my list as well, I think "Dry Your Eyes"? can't remember, one was up in the top five.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I definitely voted Phoenix!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

if i didnt vote for "if i ever feel better" i am a fool

jess, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I am resigned to my No. 1 album not making the top 100.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Thing is, I'm not sure what tracks I'd have gone for, which is where I got stuck - I did the albums fine and dandy (Hate could've been about 83rd or something if I'd only sent that bit off), but the tracks just stumped me...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, Phoenix.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i def. voted for "if i ever feel better" and "digital love" altho i low-balled dl because i wanted to give the lesser known tracks in my list a chance. i had 7 tracks that made it to just before the last cut.

tricky disco (disco stu), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

7 *extra* tracks, that is

tricky disco (disco stu), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:32 (twenty-one years ago)

OK having checked the votes again your new no. 86 is:

No. 86

Points: 163
No. of votes: 8
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: THE JUNIOR BOYS
Title: LAST EXIT
Label: KIN
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/lastexit.jpg

Comments: one of the most amazing and spacious drum tracks in recent memory. one of the few tracks in 2003 to push the rhythmic angle of electronic music forward. discuss. vahid

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

86?? oh fuck you all.

jess, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm thinking the Junior Boys vote was split amongst several tracks, possibly costing them a higher placing, but we'll just have to wait and see..

This thread is so great, the anticipation is like reading the run-up to the Oscars in Entertainment Weekly or something!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

junior boys = album vote surely

tricky disco (disco stu), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I gave my JB vote to the album.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

(ts: music nerds on this thread vs. the nbc "commentators" for the 2004 women's olympic gymnastics competition)

tricky disco (disco stu), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

i've just spent 15 minutes trying to find a good comment for the next entry, but to no avail :( stay alert people, i need you to back this one up (amazingly i have still yet to hear it)...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

This'll be good.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I am resigned to my No. 1 album not making the top 100.

mine too :(

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:48 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 74

Points: 210
No. of votes: 9
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: SUPERPITCHER
Title: HEROIN
Label: Kompakt
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/heroin.gif

Comments: n/a

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

god what sexy cover art

also it sounds like a seal caught in an oil slick trying to swim

jess, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Is that the Esprit font?

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I think i voted "Last Exit" #3. I'm dissappointed by its poor showing.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

c'mon jess say something good about 'Heroin', like 'wooza wuzza'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

oh ok you did :)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Wooh - the second choice of mine to show up.

I can't think of anything to say about 'Heroin' in particular, but I will say that Superpitcher's is the best walkman music in the world for transfiguring a mundane street scene into something quite voyeuristically beautiful.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i am going to download the album at work tomorrow, and Immer, and Jess RG2 Kompakt, finally...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Make sure you get 'To Turn You On' as well as the album (which 'Heroin' isn't on). Also get 'Grace' and 'Mushroom' and 'More Heroin' and ah fuck it, everything.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I prefer "Don't Think Too Much" to Heroin itself. Make sure you get "Feiber" too.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 73

Points: 211
No. of votes: 15
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: MIA
Title: GALANG
Label: Showbiz
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/galang.jpg

Gruelling, exotic, intoxicating, MIA's got a lot of promise on the evidence of this stormer. Inauthentic/faux dancehall maybe, but could still provide a handy link to that other world. It's got a more XFM-friendly lean tho, what with the Frischmann and Fat Truckers connections - a trivial factlet that shouldn't undermine the power of the track, particularly the brazen wailing and hollering at the end which reminds me of a hundred different things. No mean feat, so no mean feet.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's a link to the video:
http://www.ruben.fm/MIA/

It reminds me of Bow Wow Wow for some reason (and it's nebulous origins even suggest a kind of McLaren-esque conspiracy).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Two of my picks in a row.

Is 'Galang' still destined to be a hit?

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm- That #86 Junior Boys entry is for the track "Last Exit", not "Birthday", right?

lou (lou), Thursday, 19 August 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

btw, the Galang cover is:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v417/albaalba/ilx/galang.jpg

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

'Galang' isn't even on discogs.com - that's how indie it is.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I top album should have ample support, but I predict that Fosca won't get much love here.

Atnevon (Atnevon), Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I also didn't vote. Feh.
Someone please alert me when the time comes for the dispersal of the mp3 disc as I will happily pony up s+h. I know about 1 in 3 of these.
Oh and did anybody vote for my single, "Lucky Star"?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 August 2004 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I did! And gave it a lot of points if I remember correctly.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 19 August 2004 07:55 (twenty-one years ago)

The bit at the end of Galang reminds me of Walk Like An Egyptian, I've just realised.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:04 (twenty-one years ago)

people are always ruining things for you.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 August 2004 08:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Stevem surely time for more?

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 19 August 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 72

Points: 213
No. of votes: 12
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: BRITNEY SPEARS
Title: I'M A SLAVE 4 U
Label: Jive
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/imaslave4u.jpg

It seemed for a lot of people that this was a watershed moment regarding views on Spears and her music. Some of us weren't so impressed with 'Baby One More Time', or 'Lucky', or 'Born To Make You Happy', perhaps too consumed by the idea that is wasn't for us to be impressed by in the first place, or at least bemused by the way in which indie fans were switching alleigance in droves to a neo-pop renaissance and the triumphant return of the female teen idol. I found her over-rated and pretty vacuous anyway. Then N-Sync's 'Pop' surfaced and I was quite taken by the production values and relatively novel take for a boyband hit. Then I saw that MTV VMAs performance, with the Neptunes being so hot right now (sorry I just saw Zoolander for the first time last week), then - and yes suddenly it all made a lot more sense (by sense i really mean 'wtf?!'). Britney, making that transition from not girl to not yet woman, the Neptunes making their own transition from renegade rap twiddlers to true popstar puppeteers - dreamy Amazonian beats, a hit song slowly heaving and sighing with sexual suggestion but also an exciting collision of underground and overground forces you may not have deemed likely even a year beforehand. It felt like something interesting and different was happening in the pop domain, this track a portent and symbol of what seemed like a bold new direction in megastar production (plucking edgy dudes from somewhere, throwing money at them and at least seeing if the output was marketable rather than just dismissing the very notion outright). Maybe piracy had an impact too - it was time to take more risks to keep people interested, and convert the cynics. Worked pretty well.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

eh, still think it's overrated (even with it's low showing on this list)(#86???)

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

hey stevem maybe list whoall voted for whatall when you list it, that way those of us who forgot can be remembered (so far i'm only sure i voted for 'more than a woman' and i think/hope 'last exit')

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that's pretty much what I would've said if I'd had the time (x-posts with Jay-Blount).

Steve should out the various voters at the very end, besides some peeps have owned up to some of their mistakes :-).

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh, I nominated and voted for the Grandaddy song. It's clearly the stand-out from the album for me.

Orange, Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 71

Points: 221
No. of votes: 11
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: AIMEE MANN
Title: SAVE ME
Label: Reprise
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/saveme.jpg

Comments: n/a (anybody?)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I still like how "Slave 4 U" is basically an update of Vanity's "Nasty Girl" - in fact they mix extremely well together.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

'nasty girl' >>>>>> 'slave 4 u'.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 70

Points: 222
No. of votes: 13
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: SMOG
Title: DRESS SEXY AT MY FUNERAL
Label: Domino
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/dresssexy.jpg

From the pictured album Dongs Of Sevotion

Comments: n/a (anybody?)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

'dress sexy at my funeral is good cuz it shows that even dead dudes get horny too and that while the spirit may be gone the body remains'

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

'sounds good too innit, also weird last verse.'

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

comment for 'save me': when melora walters (sic) smiles at the very end, that totally made the movie for me.

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 69

Points: 227
No. of votes: 16
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: NELLY
Title: HOT IN HERRE
Label: MCA
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/hotinherre.jpg

Comments: A ?Pull Up To The Bumper? for the 2000s, but with Grace Jones? deliberate freezeout superseded by Nelly?s bumptious warmth." Marcello Carlin

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

"Dress Sexy..." is a pretty good entry point for smog virgins. i'm looking forward to "Dongs of Sevotion" topping the album chart. ;)

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

also whotf nominated 'dress sezy at my funeral' as a smog song fr tallying? it's not even the best song on tht side of tht slab.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

haha ok crosspost.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

"bumptious"...nice

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

It was the last Smog song I enjoyed.

(I neither nominated or voted for it btw.)

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I believe I nominated it, and my reason mostly being exactly that it is a good entry point for Smog virgins. I figured people who don't know Smog would likely know and have an appreciation for the song.

cws (cws), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought Nelly would be higher!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

it's teh funny one! (Distance is the best).

xp

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

blount otm re: 86.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

"Hot In Herre"'s placing is mildly upsetting.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

remember: 'thong song' voted most hated track.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

something tells me kate moss would win 'best ass' around this place lately

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I would've placed it higher on my tracks vote list but that I thought it would be a shoe-in top 20 without my vote at all. It is kinda disconcerting (you corny indie fuckos).

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

o come on it got 69 - there's some poetic justice at work there

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

this is hurting me. in my heart. and my pancreas.

jess, Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

My devotion to the big ass is hopefully not in question but I failed to vote for HiH, it was one of too many tracks bubbling around the bottom end.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

bubbling around the bottom end

um..

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

at least he didn't say "vaginal juices" like the marquis de stevem there

jess, Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i thought long and hard about that...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

filthy little bugger

jess, Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

A submarine?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

TIME FOR A RECAP / CHART SUMMARY TO BE UPDATED AS WE PROGRESS HERE

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I voted for Lucky Star, I think. I voted for something off Kish Kash, but it may have been Good Luck. Or both. None of my single picks apart from Hip Hop have shown up yet, but since Anticipating and Slave have placed, I'm pretty sure Toxic will place high.

I fear for virtually all my album picks now though.

minolta (minolta), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Good Luck wasn't nominated - Lucky Star and Right Here's The Spot were, one of them is not in the Top 100.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, i thought the jaxx would rule the top 25

comme personne (common_person), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Division of votes, maybe?

Also the general ILM jaxx-love seems to be dying down a bit. :(

cis (cis), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't think of a good reason why. It's only been a year.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

But there was so much excited, concentrated, listening going on around the time it came out, and the intervening year's had so much going on -- I know I haven't listened to Kish Kash for a few months now, at least, which might just be my habit of focusing on one record until I burn out on it, but.

Am utterly psyched that my track hasn't appeared yet. Despite the fact that I didn't end up giving it my #1.

cis (cis), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i wouldn't say Jaxx love dying down - see the lastest Daft Punk thread, recent talk of going to Somerset House just to listen to them from outside etc. Also the Pleix video for 'Cish Cash' is pretty awesome.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I voted for Kish Kash as an album, but as with Daft Punk, but there were too many other great things for them to make my tracks list. Anyway, I prefer 'Good Luck' and 'Living Room' to the ones that were up.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Dang. I expect that "Lucky Star" is the one that will appear on this list instead of "Right Here's the Spot" (i.e. the one I voted for). Oh well. At least the Jaxx make it. The way these lists have been going so far I sort of suspected they might not.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 68

Points: 229
No. of votes: 10
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: MCLUSKY
Title: LIGHTSABRE COCKSUCKING BLUES
Label: Too Pure
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/lightsabrecocksuckingblues.jpg

From the pictured album Mclusky Do Dallas, I think this says it best...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:43 (twenty-one years ago)

it actually sounds like that?!

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

The comments will get better again soon!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Americans be comedy rocking.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I kinda like that song - I think it was on the second Sonic Mook comp which was fun.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

THAT IS FUCKING TERRIBLE

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:54 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 67

Points: 233
No. of votes: 12
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: LIFE WITHOUT BUILDINGS
Title: THE LEANOVER
Label: Tugboat
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/theleanover.jpg

From the pictured album Any Other City. It's great hearing stuff for the first time on account of compiling this Tracks list. This is the fourteenth (!) time that's happened, and though it means any insight in these comments is thwarted by lack of history between me and the song, first impressions still count for something, especially in a list like this. This song provokes a few question - what is this girl on? Did Pete Voss and Claire Grogan have a daughter? Hard to tell whether the vocals fit around the track or the other way round, the vocalist's erratic stream of garbled, vaguely poetic nonsense treading that line between endearing and annoying with an admirable abandon - sounding like someone who thinks they know everything about the world around them but constantly finding it impossible to take it all in. Backed by re-assuring, pleasant guitars and skipping drums to match her mood, it's like a tenuous acquaintance steaming up to you blind drunk to tell you how important and wonderful you are to them, which can be funny if you've had a few yourself.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the Leanover, but didn't vote for it but still WTF #67?!! How did that get there?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 20 August 2004 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually maybe I'm just surprised it ranked above Hot In Herre.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 20 August 2004 09:21 (twenty-one years ago)

'Hot In Herre' had a very slow start and didn't really pick up until right at the end, would've been even lower otherwise - same is true of our next track...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 66

Points: 233
No. of votes: 21
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: SEAN PAUL
Title: GET BUSY
Label: Atlantic
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/getbusy.jpg

I think he's a very charismatic vocalist; I think there's a kind of posh twang in his tone which makes him immediately distinctive; I love the way he shoehorns girls' names into Get Busy; I think it's the best Diwali track even counting Lumidee and Wayne Wonder; I think he's quite a handsome fellow; he has the knack of chatting fast without a non-patois-speaker losing the thread OR the sense of otherness which isn't essential for good dancehall but explains his crossover status. Tom Ewing

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 09:34 (twenty-one years ago)

you are fucking kidding!!!!

pete b. (pete b.), Friday, 20 August 2004 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

it has the most votes so far

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 09:38 (twenty-one years ago)

uh, ok, fair enough then. still, i mean, harrumph.

pete b. (pete b.), Friday, 20 August 2004 09:41 (twenty-one years ago)

fwiw it's worth i think we are now entering a period where there will be much less disagreement about the entries - it's all looking pretty great on the horizon, perhaps all the way to the top, although there are at least three more songs I'd never heard of before doing this.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 09:43 (twenty-one years ago)

The Leanover is pretty great - nice writeup stevem.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 20 August 2004 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Pete, surely there's still Like Glue to come?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:07 (twenty-one years ago)

do people really like "Like Glue" better than "Get Busy"?

I don't think Sean Paul is handsome at all. He's slightly pudgy. Still awesome though.

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:08 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 65

Points: 235
No. of votes: 8
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: RADIOHEAD
Title: LIKE SPINNING PLATES
Label: Parlophone
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/likespinningplates.jpg

When they said they'd been influenced by the likes of Autechre and Boards Of Canada during the recording of 'Amnesiac' they weren't kidding. This track is exemplory of the pivot for the see-saw upon which people tend to be divided on Radiohead in the 21st century (gasp) - because first and foremost it's not a song, it's a dream in sound, and like dreams it makes little if any sense. Vocals running in both directions (I assume the plates are spinning clockwise and anti-clockwise too) with tense strings and dull but nimble synth notes. Perhaps the problem for others is that it sounds like a bad dream, a nightmare for little Thom - again your position on the see-saw (also a sliding scale) determining whether you want to spend time recognising and appreciating the beauty of surreal nightmares. Then again maybe you choose not to perceive it as a bad dream at all, putting you off the see-saw altogether, out there, with the band, wherever they are.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I prefer Like Glue, though sadly it was not nominated, nor, even more disappointingly, was 'Breathe'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

oh dear. you said it was getting better!

The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

well we're still entering ;)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

the problem with the whole poll was that there were so many Radiohead albums and tracks and I could only vote to hate one of each

Porkpie (porkpie), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 64

Points: 243
No. of votes: 20
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: THE WHITE STRIPES
Title: HOTEL YORBA
Label: XL
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/hotelyorba.jpg

Not the only act in this list represented by a track that's far from their best, curse you nominating masses. But for people who love over-rated rip-off merchants peddling jolly electrified folkrock to the mainstream (hello), the Stripes are great fun, with or without their silly clothes and enigmatic (at least initially) dynamic as a duo (or indeed couple). Take those material elements away and this song, like so many of their others, still stands up on it's own for quirky content and delivery, and a raucous spirit lacking from a lot of other rock bands (retro or nu) sharing similar success but too obsessed with overegged production or making sure everyone understands THEIR PAIN, to the detriment of good hooks and pure rock n' roll thrills. I could not give a toss about Jack White's pain, and on this occasion he doesn't either, the twee fucker.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 10:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i asked amateurist to nominate for 'like glue' after i forgot to, and then when i still had time to change my nomination i stopped caring, but now i'm sorry. i'm pretty sure i like it more than whatever's gonna win this thing.

m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 20 August 2004 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 63

Points: 248
No. of votes: 15
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: THE AVALANCHES
Title: FRONTIER PSYCHIATRIST
Label: XL
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/frontierpsychiatrist.jpg

Searching for this one on ILM brings up some interesting results, pretty much all negative perception. It's just as easy to criticise this track as it is to praise it I suppose. Oh the DYS! The novelty! The monotony...but come on, didn't you love playing with scissors and glue back at school? I don't want the enthusing of this track to be entirely based on nostalgia but it's difficult. Because it IS Saturday morning 80's TV, damn those ace Cartoon Network ads. In reality it's not so great a track to dance to, but it's one of the few tracks from the dizzy brochure that is the 'Since I Left You' album that stands up best as a single. Great moments; the meta! And when that delay echo comes in on the drums halfway through it's time to break stuff. I also love the way it just maintains some elements and drags and drops others on a whim...the use of the 'frontier' snippet alternating with the spooky choir for centre stage (and if you've seen the 'literal take' video that's a bonus) really kicks, and the switch at the end, new things moving into view, the previous events fading further and further into the background. When it ends it feels like the door's being forcibly closed on you but the carnival of batshit lunacy's still going on - probably best to move on tho eh?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 62

Points: 250
No. of votes: 13
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: BROADCAST
Title: ECHO'S ANSWER
Label: Warp
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/echosanswer.jpg

Released nearly five years ago but from the 2000 album The Noise Made By People. And one of my favourite songs of the last few years for sure. Both lyrically and sonically this song's simple premise concerns time and nature's effect on things. A celebration of the sound after the sound, an answer's echo, the echo as an answer (if the question is 'am I alone?' at least). Multiple connotations that demonstrate to me an impressive sophistication in songwriting when relying on such open references. In just over three minutes you can recognise the sense of progress throughout the song as Trish Keenan observes the passing, the approach and the return of 'the wind' (stop smirking at the back there). It feels like an age old poem and probably is derived from one. The imposed feedback would seem un-necessary were it not for the fact we know that when a room full of instruments but no people is exposed to rushes of air, those instruments can resound. And the feedback here is as beautiful as it's parent and a wonderful compliment to it. Something about heavy chorusing and that flange effect on the guitar (making it more violin-esque) cuts right to my backbone, whether it's heavy rock or something as docile as this beatless wonder. Those dying seconds, where Keenan's soft and ever so human voice melts into the shadows, engulfed by noise like a pebble in an advancing tide, a monument persisting against the elements, still send shivers every time.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

This beautiful evocation of wind was also bubbling round my bottom end, so to speak.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

go and stand outside

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 61

Points: 254
No. of votes: 17
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: LUMIDEE
Title: NEVER LEAVE YOU (UH-OH)
Label: MCA
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/neverleaveyou.jpg

I didnt vote for this one but Steve asked me to write it up, I'm not
surprised he shirked the responsibility, everyone in the whole world
is surely talked out about gorgeous Lumidee even if they're not tired
of HEARING it. Oh the Summer of 03 and the can she cant she sing
debates! But, OK, one more try - this song is beautiful because she
makes the Diwali Riddim sound like a clapping game she and her friend
had just that second invented while a field recording A&R man with a
mike crept furtively around. Hey do you remember when "faux-naif" was
ILM's insult of choice? How joyful those days now seem... Tom Ewing

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd hit it.

Barima, Friday, 20 August 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Lovely description of "Echo's Answer". Glad that one got in the chart. "Like Spinning Plates" is one of the worst "weird" Radiohead tracks I can think of!

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 20 August 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Pedantry here but for the benefit of the final article, Like Spinning Plates actually came out in 2001, not 2002.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 20 August 2004 13:05 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 60

Points: 257
No. of votes: 16
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: LAMBCHOP
Title: UP WITH PEOPLE
Label: City Slang
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/upwithpeople.jpg

Comments: n/a (anybody?)


the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Steve, I sent you a blurb.

peepee (peepee), Friday, 20 August 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 59

Points: 269
No. of votes: 16
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: TWEET
Title: OOPS (OH MY)
Label: Elektra
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/oopsohmy.jpg

Comments: The trouble with these kids making music today is they always wanna make the big expansive statement. But what usually hits home (for me anyway) is something utterly specific - one little moment or situation so perfectly described that it cuts through all the clutter with absolute clarity. "oops, oh my" is one of those moments. It's not about love, it's not about pain, it's not about how fucked up the world is, it's not even about the pain a g feels every day doing the shit he's got to do. It's about catching yourself in the mirror and thinking "damn I'm hot". But waaaaay more than that this is one of those songs that just delivers a "WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT" moment. Her intention is undeniable. You know what she's talking about. And because she does it so vividly it's more shocking than a million merzbows on the biggest sound rigs in the universe.

Thanks Tweet for adding something a little bit specific and a big bit
surprising to the 21st century... Jacob Wright

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

peepee - when? don't seem to have got it yet, sorry - will add when i do

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Here it is, Steve:


Two simple guitar chords chug into a train of horns and choir.

Whitney Houston sang that she believes “that children are our future”. Well, DUH! Kurt Wagner reminds us that we are the past. Lambchop’s “naive” soul is fully realized on “Up With People”. The song has a bleak world view, but is forced into optimism as a last resort. Who would’ve thunk that I’d find myself singing “c’mon progeny”, over and over and over again?
-Peepee

peepee (peepee), Friday, 20 August 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

gah, it got lost in a bunch of other stuff, bad gmail, thanks again

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

'Oops (Oh My)' is the first of the tunes I voted for that I have that "why no higher?" feeling about. Still, props to Jacob for nailing it.

Flyboy (Flyboy), Friday, 20 August 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd never seen the cover photo before. Tweet, we love you.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 20 August 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)

(I wish I bought more singles)

Alba (Alba), Friday, 20 August 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

4 of my voted-for tracks have made it so far, including the one I nom'ed, but Get Busy is the only thing that seems way too fucking low. I really wish I hadn't strategized.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 20 August 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I was so certain "Get Busy" would be in the top 20 or so, I put it really low on my list. Maybe I shouldn't have given "Digital Love" like its millionth #1 vote.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 20 August 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

EXACTLY. I figured I'd help some stuff along that wasn't sure to get tons of votes and put Get Busy really low. Why couldn't I just PUT THE TRACKS IN ORDER BEST TO LAMEST *kicks self

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 20 August 2004 17:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm regretting having done the same thing myself...I was totally honest as regards putting my fave albums down alright

Michael B, Friday, 20 August 2004 17:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I wonder how high that Saint Etienne single will place, hmm...

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 17:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I voted for Lambchop, but would have given it more points if it had been the Zero 7 remix.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 20 August 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

madness lies the way of calculated voting.

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 20 August 2004 17:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i asked amateurist to nominate for 'like glue' after i forgot to, and then when i still had time to change my nomination i stopped caring, but now i'm sorry. i'm pretty sure i like it more than whatever's gonna win this thing.
-- m. (mitchnet70NOSPA...), August 20th, 2004.

i don't even recall the nomination process happening. i had no idea this was happening at all until these threads started appearing. it must've happened at a time when i wasn't really checking the boards obsessively. (which is...when? someone know when this whole thing got started?) i like like glue a lot.

amateur!!!st, Friday, 20 August 2004 18:04 (twenty-one years ago)

still this is a lot of fun to read, esp. since i'm so fucking out of the loop that i can't be bothered to be distressed by a particular placing. i'm just looking forward to hearing a lot of these songs for the first time, whenever it is that i get a new computer and broadband.

amateur!!!st, Friday, 20 August 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Very Surprised Lumidee is not higher (that was my nomintation btw). but she's in good company with Tweet.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 20 August 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I really wish I hadn't strategized.

VOTE YOUR CONSCIENCE PEEPO

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Friday, 20 August 2004 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

i swear mystikal is flipping me off...ha, ha! you thought the list would be updated!?!? fuck you!

frankE (frankE), Friday, 20 August 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I could be (and probably am) way off, but this is my top 20 prediction.

20. "No Good Advice" - Girls Aloud
19. "Yeah!" - Usher f/ Ludacris, Lil' Jon
18. "Birthday" - Junior Boys
17. "Cry Me a River" - Justin Timberlake
16. "Silver Screen Shower Scene" - Felix da Housecat
15. "Stan" - Eminem
14. "Pyramid Song" - Radiohead
13. "Romeo" - Basement Jaxx
12. "Work It" - Missy Elliott
11. "Weak Become Heroes" - The Streets
10. "Toxic" - Britney Spears
9. "Losing My Edge" - LCD Soundsystem
8. "One More Time" - Daft Punk
7. "Get Ur Freak On" - Missy Elliott
6. "Digital Love" - Daft Punk
5. "Hey Ya!" - OutKast
4. "Crazy in Love" - Beyonce
3. "Ignition (Remix)" - R. Kelly
2. "B.O.B. (Bombs Over Baghdad)" - OutKast
1. "I Luv U" - Dizzee Rascal

I guess it's pretty unlikely that four of the five songs would be from last year.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 20 August 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I sense Dr. Bill is OTM

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 20 August 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

B.O.B. that high?

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 20 August 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"Stan" will not be in the top 20.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 20 August 2004 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

hm. Maybe I overestimated that one, but I always sort of assumed it was one of the most acclaimed singles of the decade.

I'd still put money it being top ten, though. And "Hey Ya!" will still be top five.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 20 August 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

what, is that more of a US favorite than a UK favorite?

I'd say top 20 is at least very possible.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 20 August 2004 21:45 (twenty-one years ago)

My list was so conservative: hardly any of mine have shown up yet, but I bet just about all of them make the top 40 or so. Oh, and if "Get Ur Freak On" doesn't make the top 5, I'm to blame. I wanted to only vote for one song per artist and I went with "Work It" instead. I shoulda voted for both. I did wind up with both "Digital Love" and "Harder Batter Faster Stronger" on there anyway.

Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Friday, 20 August 2004 22:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a feeling that OutKast will not fare quite so well. In a world where "Hot in Herre" doesn't even make the Top 50 then I can envision OutKast being shut out of the top 20.

I can certainly see "I Luv U" winning, because I think it will get more votes than any other song. Everyone knows it and likes it.

I was listening to the new FdHcat today and it got me thinking that "Silver Screen Shower Scene" is a sleeper -- I'll be bold and say that it'll make the top five.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 21 August 2004 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Outkast will be in the top 20.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 21 August 2004 00:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Since there were about four OutKast songs nominated then the possibility of vote-splitting is strong (see : Radiohead).

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 21 August 2004 00:25 (twenty-one years ago)

'Romeo' and 'Losing My Edge' will be higher
'Bombs Over Baghdad' and 'Ignition' will be lower.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 21 August 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

'Silver Screen Shower Scene' will be nowhere.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 21 August 2004 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

It IS really weird that Hot in Herrre was so low.
If we had done this last year, maybe?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 21 August 2004 01:45 (twenty-one years ago)

ignition had better win.

cºzen (Cozen), Saturday, 21 August 2004 07:05 (twenty-one years ago)

"Hot in Herre" was much lower because it's simply not as good a song as any of the OutKast contenders. Not even close, really. And even if you disagree with that, you certainly can't disagree with the fact that its greatness is a hell of a lot more contested than "Hey Ya!," quite possibly the most universally adored song of the last 10 years.

"I Luv U" has good odds because it's not going to suffer from vote splitting. Unless you count "Lucky Star," the only other Dizzee song nominated was "Vexed," and I really can't see a US bonus track beating out one of the most adored singles of this half-decade on too many lists.

The Jaxx are gonig to suffer serious vote splitting between "Romeo" and "Lucky Star". The same could theoretically happen to Daft Punk but I think there'll be more people to vote for both than with Jaxx.

How much higher could "Losing My Edge" be? Top five? Doubtful.

And I'd be surprised if "Ignition (Remix)" isn't exceptionally high.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 21 August 2004 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

"Hey Ya!" may have been universally loved, you're right, but overfamiliarity breeeds contempt. I'm sure alot of people on here would be happier never to hear it again and I'm one of them.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 21 August 2004 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

"Hey Ya!," quite possibly the most universally adored song of the last 10 years.

Hahahahaha, not on ILX it wasn't!

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 21 August 2004 10:33 (twenty-one years ago)

ILX /= Pitchfork

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 21 August 2004 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

supposedly

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 21 August 2004 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

"last nite" might make the top 20.

peter smith (plsmith), Saturday, 21 August 2004 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)

roxy, wuh?

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 21 August 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

ILX /= Pitchfork

Haha we'll see just how high "Fight Test" places. (I, um, voted for it)

Vinnie (vprabhu), Saturday, 21 August 2004 14:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"Never Leave You (Uh Oh)" ranked above "Get Busy" = I hate you all

Al (sitcom), Saturday, 21 August 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

hey ya shouldn't be voted for for dogcatcher but remember we are now living in a world where 50 made the worst album of the half-decade

artiste, Saturday, 21 August 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

At least Eminem still has more Oscars than Scorsese.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 21 August 2004 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)


No. 58

Points: 276
No. of votes: 12
No. of #1 votes: 3

Artist: TED LEO & THE PHARMACISTS
Title: WHERE HAVE ALL THE RUDE BOYS GONE?
Label: Lookout
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/heartsofoak.jpg

From the pictured album Hearts Of Oak.

Comments: A near-perfect anthem for aging indie-rockers, mods, and power-poppers, for those who remember when those genres were cool, another one of those "in-a-perfect-world-would-be-a-top-ten-hit" kind of songs, a feel-good track that gets used in bumpers for MTV but you never see the video...but most of all: a song about when punk was tough, but without the faux-toughness of the punk revivalists..."Where Have All The Rude Boys Gone" is all of these things. Cameron Metz

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 57

Points: 282
No. of votes: 17
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: THE STROKES
Title: LAST NITE
Label: Rough Trade
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/lastnite.jpg

Comments: There's something about the Strokes, the way that all the instruments are in metronome-perfect rhythm and Julian's voice is scrawled all over them, that gets me everytime. It's some kinda weird, inside out, reverse emotion through coolness effect. Maciej Kasperowicz

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

great write up - i wish i could agree!

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 21 August 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Kinda surprised the two of those aren't higher.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 21 August 2004 21:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm glad "Last Night" placed this high as an obviously better track should score much higher.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 21 August 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 56

Points: 286
No. of votes: 18
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: DESTINY'S CHILD
Title: SAY MY NAME
Label: Coumbia
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/saymyname.jpg

Is there a DC track more perfect and succinct than this? Maybe, but they're not here and this is. And right now it sounds like the best thing they ever did. It's pretty much Beyonce's show as usual and typically her strength is not really deployed until the end - the music not really rising with her though, preferring to remain in it's regimented but bounceable sync-pop groove, comfortable as it is. As pure Summery modern pop with soul tones it's flawless in conception and execution.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 55

Points: 293
No. of votes: 15
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: GOLDEN BOY & MISS KITTIN
Title: RIPPIN KITTIN
Label: Illustrious
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/rippinkittin.jpg

Murder on the dancefloor. Such poignancy is rare to encounter in tracks designed to make you move but together Golden Boy and Miss Kittin, conveying such quiet, numb despair and longing (esp. 'can I go out and hunt tonight...like you do...on Sunday morning....') so effortlessly here, nail it. The scorching swoosh at the start provides a goosebump rush you would not expect to re-occur again and again, but it does, and combined with the poised two note whistle and strangely cheerful chord progressions and resigned melody further on, it all makes for a danse macabre par excellence.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Timbaland's "Say My Name" remix is so cooled out that it's like a lullaby. Recommended.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 21 August 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 54

Points: 296
No. of votes: 14
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: THE JUNIOR BOYS
Title: BIRTHDAY
Label: KIN
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/birthday.jpg

From the pictured album Last Exit.

Comments:...the junior boys are amazing. the best group around at the moment. they totally erase the "dancefloor soul"/"bedroom introspection"/"glittering abstraction" non-divide like it weren't nothing but a thing. they're everything i love most about music, in fact (luscious textures, mopey singing, stuttering beats), minus rapping. THE JUNIOR BOYS ARE FUCKING GREAT, GIVE ELECTROKIN ALL YR MONEY. Jess Harvell

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 22:59 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post)
There goes my #1 (Rippin Kittin) and you described it just right Stevem. This song came out at a time when there seemed to be a nightlife revival happening (at least here in MTL), so it has a strong connection for me. But even on it's own, those cold synth chords, that stalking beat, and those child/murderer lyrics make it the best song Miss Kittin ever laid her paws on.

Seb (Seb), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Why is everyone not going totally bonkers about the junior boys?

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

haha i guess we have to amend that to say GIVE THE HEARTLESS AUSPICES OF THE SONY CONGLOMERATE ALL YR MONEY

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

still shockingly low for the JBeez tho'. i'd have guessed they would have been a shoo-in for the top 20.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)

whas up with the hate for "Hey Ya"???

H (Heruy), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Did you miss the Outkast Wars last year?

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, add Say My Name to the 'i can't believe it's that low' list, too. I guess 'crazy in love' may have stole some of its votes, perhaps?

scott pl. (scott pl.), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

> Did you miss the Outkast Wars last year?

i guess so

H (Heruy), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 53

Points: 303
No. of votes: 13
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: BIG & RICH
Title: SAVE A HORSE, RIDE A COWBOY
Label: Warner
Year: 2004

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/saveahorserideacowboy.jpg

From the pictured album Horse Of A Different Colour.

Square Table comments

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:38 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 52

Points: 309
No. of votes: 18
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: LADYTRON
Title: SEVENTEEN
Label: Telstar
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/seventeen.jpg

Comments: Ladytron are four people, with electronic instruments. Some come from Bulgaria though their music sounds nothing like Bulgaria. The vocals go with the track really well. I like this song very much because it makes me want to lie down. The opportunity cost of buying this is a decent lunch. David H

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

First person to say 'Playgirl' was better gets my immediate loss of respect.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

(first person to say 'Discotraxx' was better but that's not the point)

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

(I mean 'Discotraxx' maybe was but that's not the point here)

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

zzzzzz......

How can people like music like this so much?

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

re: Ladytron.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, so one of those posts was not meant to appear. I'm an ass.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i prefer the one about being drunk after work watching the women's tennis as well

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't understand how any couldn't like music like this so much, but I guess this gets us nowhere.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

dude i really wish you had picked another Ladytron track as I'm sure it would've done just as well

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:18 (twenty-one years ago)

(i very much doubt i ever had your respect anyway)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I think that I subconsciously like 'Seventeen' so much because it makes me think of 17-year-old models. I'm not exactly proud of this.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Stevem, I got so much respect for you it hurtz.

Yeach - 'Playgirl' has just come on my iTunes. It sounds like the Smack The Pony crew doing an Electroclash parody at the end of the show.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 51

Points: 309
No. of votes: 20
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: M83
Title: RUN INTO FLOWERS
Label: Labels UK
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/runintoflowers.jpg

COME AND HAVE A HUGGG ALBA AND JESS AND WHOEVER ELSE IS HERE, YOU ARE MY TRUE FRIENDS NOT THE OTHERS, FROM NOW ON IT'S JUST US AND NOTHING ELSE MATTERS. OMG! OMGOMG! LOL

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you given up entirely on bothering to look for comments now?

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

(I mean someone help me out - what is M83? The cover looks most depressing. Are those people dead or just sleeping. I hope they're not dead.)

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

They are on the ground because they were just BLASTED by the SYNTHTACULAR SOUNDS of M83 and have achieved AESTHETIC BLISS.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

ack, too bad this wasn't higher
(xpost I'll write something right now)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, "run into flowers"!

tricky disco (disco stu), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

They could ALSO be CAMPING.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Can Mike's first post become the official commentary please?

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a ridiculous place to camp.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

the m83 cover artwork always reminds me of some weird analog of the artwork for music has the right to children. they're not dead alba, they're dreaming

tricky disco (disco stu), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

smashing.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm glad about that. It's a cool cover then.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

It kind of makes me think of the Chapman Bros. but I don't know why.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:42 (twenty-one years ago)

stevem's initial comments are quite apropos

tricky disco (disco stu), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

(I know what you mean about the Music Has The Right To Children comparison)

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

soundtrack for the recreational pharmaceutical generation

xpost, cool.

tricky disco (disco stu), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

(Barry blurbs about "Run Into Flowers", sort of)

I'm trying to give Daft Punk another chance, I really am. So much luv and high hopes are surrounding them. But first, I was listening to "Dead Cities ... " as the sun went down. I don't know where else to turn when I want to deafen myself with a choir of synths. It's got to be either this or the instrumental version of "The Perfect Kiss". In the meantime, "Run Into Flowers" got played twice, the second time twice as loud as the first. Aspiring trance producers can learn a lot from the mid-song break here. It rarely fails to get me to my feet, air guitaring (to a synth) and cheering.

Then I gave "Discovery" a spin while watching the Olympics and putting off cooking dinner. Suddenly, the rot of the day sat in as the apartment became darkened due to the lack of sun. And I was reminded about little I've actually done today in comparison with what I intended to do. So I'm done with *these* Frenchmen now, I'm returning to the others.

So now "Run Into Flowers" is deafening the neighbours again. I think I'll play the break twice this time.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

it will gather speed and grow exponentially soon enough.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't believe my original comments are deemed unacceptable

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

m83 cover artist

also, the jackson remix of "run into flowers" is quite possibly the best thing ever

tricky disco (disco stu), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sorry stevem - I hadn't heard the track and didn't understand.

I've now downloaded it and I do understand.

An instrumental version should be the end credits music for the last episode of a new series of Blake's Seven.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 01:14 (twenty-one years ago)

also, the jackson remix of "run into flowers" is quite possibly the best thing ever

oh yes.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 22 August 2004 01:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, one of my predicted top 20 (Junior Boys) is out. I keep up hopes that they'll do better in albums, though.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Sunday, 22 August 2004 03:00 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 50

Points: 310
No. of votes: 14
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: SAINT ETIENNE
Title: HEART FAILED IN THE BACK OF A TAXI
Label: Mantra
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/heartfailed.jpg

What does Sarah Cracknell possess in that limited range of hers that appeals so much? Nothing more than a subtle and effortless ability to deliver a warm and reassuring vocal performance, no matter what tracks Stanley and Wiggs have cooked up for her to sing over. So here's a bit of an anomaly, a Saint Etienne single in which she sounds borderline sinister, refusing to let her voice trail off, where even the "doo doo doo's" are clipped and cynical. Saint Etienne loves their nostalgia, loves looking back, but here they're looking back at the life of a miserable bastard who made everyone around him miserable and then died and wasn't that such a waste of the possibilities of a life? Gear!>

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure whether I prefer Heart Failed or Shower Scene. Voted for the former, of course.

Atnevon (Atnevon), Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:22 (twenty-one years ago)

(By "Shower Scene," I am of course referring to the Saint Etienne song rather than the similarly-titled Felix/Kitten collaboration).

Atnevon (Atnevon), Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

funny you should say that...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

>No. 53
Points: 303
No. of votes: 13
No. of #1 votes: 0
Artist: BIG & RICH
Title: SAVE A HORSE, RIDE A COWBOY<

Actually, I could have sworn I DID give this one a #1 vote. Though maybe I voted for something by Missy Elliot instead. Or maybe my ballot never went through???

chuck, Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it has been established that stevem is making the scores up as he goes along.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

>(what is M83? The cover looks most depressing. Are those people dead or just sleeping. I hope they're not dead.) <

I listened to the album a couple times, and actually, "dead" seems like a pretty good explanation to me for how lifeless it sounds.

chuck, Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 49

Points: 313
No. of votes: 19
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: FELIX DA HOUSECAT
Title: SILVER SCREEN SHOWER SCENE
Label: City Rockers
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/silverscreenshowerscene.jpg

Like Thunderbird 2 you wonder how something so heavy can soar so gracefully. The tempo is just beautifully judged, the wobbly bass perhaps the most powerful in this field since 'Da Funk', and well, replacing a standard snare with a synapse-shattering scythe... The industrial rhythmic sound recalls Kraftwerk's Metal On Metal but it's even starker, with Miss Kittin's voicemail mantra seductive to the power of ten. I'd call it super-sexy but that's quite enough s words already. As I said on the Kittenz And Thee Glitz entry for the Albums list, hearing this track as I did (not in a club alas) provided one of the top 'wtf' moments this decade for me. It felt like it was something that was going to annoy a lot of people but delight others, and I was in the latter group from the off. By the time Jacques Lu Cont put all other remixers to shame with an extraordinary rework of the track that stripped it to it's skeleton before reconstructing an entirely different prog-house retro-futurist disco warrior in drag over the top, it was my favourite dance track of the 00s - because sometimes you know, when we're having the time of our lives, we like to look as if we're not - but with Lu Cont's mix it's just impossible to hide the joy. You will never be home again.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Save A Horse Ride A Cowboy does indeed have one #1 vote. Apologies for the typo (again).

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

COVER CONNECTIONS!

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/runintoflowers.jpg
http://www.radiopfm.com/IMG/arton215.gif

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 22 August 2004 18:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Steve, I just g-g-g-gmailed you w/some comments.

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 22 August 2004 18:06 (twenty-one years ago)

so far this thread has caused me to download alan braxe's anticipating plus the stereo total mum andrew wk and m83 tracks which were all great!!! (ok great is overstating it on the mum but it was pretty) unfortunately this thread also caused me to download the silver jews and dismemberment plan

artiste (artiste), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

'Playgirl' has just come on my iTunes. It sounds like the Smack The Pony crew doing an Electroclash parody at the end of the show.

Stay the same, dude, stay the same.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 48

Points: 314
No. of votes: 12
No. of #1 votes: 3

Artist: MIRAH
Title: COLD COLD WATER
Label: K
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/coldcoldwater.jpg

From the pictured album Advisory Committee.

Comments: Cold Cold Water is one of the best songs Phil Spector never had a hand in. I'm amazed that they managed to keep her voice above all the musical craziness in the background. Mr Noodles

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Rock On!
Glad to see that so high!

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 22 August 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

it's one i heard for the first time in compiling this list and yeah it's kinda awesome

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 47

Points: 314
No. of votes: 14
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: RADIOHEAD
Title: KNIVES OUT
Label: Parlophone
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/knivesout.jpg

Comments: John Darn1elle can talk about the lyrical themes that weave throughout Radiohead's underrated "Amnesiac," but here are a couple of musical reasons that "Knives Out," in some ways the centerpiece of that album, works so well. (1) The descending chromatic of that first line: "I want (Eb) you (D) to know (C)." A simple trick, but one that's fairly rare in modern pop music (save for Blonde Redhead and, oddly enough, the Chili Peppers, when Frusciante's around), and one that's very effective at creating a creeping unease. (2) From the lightly brushed cymbals to the jazz guitar lines that slip and snake around Thom Yorke's voice, "Knives Out" has an engaging looseness that the band can't always capture in their overly meticulous moments. Even as the straitjacket is tightening, the paranoia setting in, the song still sways. jaymc

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 46

Points: 317
No. of votes: 17
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: KANYE WEST
Title: JESUS WALKS
Label: Roc-A-Fella
Year: 2004

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/jesuswalks.jpg

From the pictured album The College Dropout.

Comments: ....I don't think there's anyway that anyone could listen to something as powerful as "Jesus Walks" and think "tasteful regression." Josh Love

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

seriously, list who all voted for that plz

cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Remember that Kanye West walks among us.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:15 (twenty-one years ago)

So much for my bold/crazed prediction of a high Felix da Housecat ranking.
Sometimes you have to risk embarassment in the hope of earning those sorts of bragging rights.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I listened to the album a couple times, and actually, "dead" seems like a pretty good explanation to me for how lifeless it sounds

As I've muttered elsewhere, I think you're onto something. But I can't even remember THAT much about it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 August 2004 22:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't believe "Knives Out" made it, much less that high. I mean, yeah, lurkers and all, but that doesn't change the fact that KO is the worst Radiohead single since "Stop Whispering," possiblye even "Pop is Dead".

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Sunday, 22 August 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

well Ned I shall pre-emptively renege on my offer of an M83 sticker (whoever wants one for some reason I have about twenty here)

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 23 August 2004 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree with Bill - Knives Out was a really bad choice for a single.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 23 August 2004 00:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait'll you guys hear the albums I defend!!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 23 August 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought Jesus Walks would be way higher!

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 23 August 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus laughing!

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 23 August 2004 01:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Hurrah for "Cold Cold Water" !

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 23 August 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

knives out was my no. 1. a song where time stands still. thom yorke seems to sing from out of his grave. more dead than alive. the most touching and intense song from the last 5 years.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Monday, 23 August 2004 04:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm holding out for the one in which he actually sings from out of his grave.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 23 August 2004 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)

give it 60 years and a little help from our friend nuclear science

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 23 August 2004 04:39 (twenty-one years ago)

If us Radiohead hataz channeled our collective energies into a concerted campaign of Radiohead hate, we could take over this place.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 23 August 2004 04:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Time was it was already taken over.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 23 August 2004 04:55 (twenty-one years ago)

(I'm actually not a Radiohead hater, but for some reason I totally support ILX venom getting spat at them. I guess I'm just sick of critics everywhere else stupidly and tirelessly riding their worn-out shrivelled android cocks.)

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 23 August 2004 04:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Note: I am not a Radiohead hata, I merely dislike "Knives Out".

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Monday, 23 August 2004 04:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I like it a lot, but kind of wish it wasn't on this list?

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 23 August 2004 05:00 (twenty-one years ago)

i think back when i downloaded amnesiac knives out was the one i couldnt find on napster or something

artiste (artiste), Monday, 23 August 2004 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Not even I voted for Knives Out.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Monday, 23 August 2004 05:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess I'm just sick of critics everywhere else stupidly and tirelessly riding their worn-out shrivelled android cocks
Me too -- I would rather not dislike them (there are many Radiohead songs I like, and other than Kid A, which is a thundering dud with almost no merit, they have not made a *bad* album) but they are easily the most overrated band of the last fifteen years or so, therefore I feel the need to spew venom at them to try to bring their worth back to some semblance of reality.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 23 August 2004 05:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Pyramid Song is sooooo much better than Knives Out it's not true.

Ricardo (RickyT), Monday, 23 August 2004 08:36 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 45

Points: 318
No. of votes: 18
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: BASEMENT JAXX (FEATURING DIZZEE RASCAL)
Title: LUCKY STAR
Label: XL
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/luckystar.jpg

It feels like such an event, and it was frustrating that a meeting of the minds such as this - the most innovative production force in British dance music and the most exciting British MC in years - did not seem to capture the record-buying public's imagination as much as one would hope. It was number one for a month in my world though. Such an incendiary command to just react, and an indicator of the depth and density that is both to the benefit and detriment of Kish Kash it seems. 'Round, round, round we go' insist Dizzee - his tone often quite despairing then defiant - just like the music, but this track is all round the houses and weaving through every alleyway and thoroughfare like the kid who just snatched your mobile, using all kinds of canny tricks to keep evading. The playful nursery-rhyme approach lyrically and the kitchen sink crafting of the track reminds me of boisterous kids who just won't shut up, which would usually be annoying, but when they're this imaginative and bursting with life I just wish I was that young again.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 44

Points: 318
No. of votes: 19
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: JAY-Z
Title: IZZO (H.O.V.A.)
Label: Def Jam
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/izzo.jpg

Comments: n/a (anybody?)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 09:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Jizzo?

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 23 August 2004 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

The bizzo

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 23 August 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 43

Points: 322
No. of votes: 17
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: ROOTS MANUVA
Title: WITNESS (ONE HOPE)
Label: Big Dada
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/witness.jpg

A thoroughly British bounce. Everything about this track is perfect. Over a killer bassline, dubby gameshow klaxons and what sounds like harps plucked through a mile-long spiralling tube of crystalline glass in outer space Roots earnestly lays down the law of his land, numerous culinary references (it's about the 'jerk chicken, jerk fish' as much as the ten pints of bitter and cheese on toast - maybe the reason I love this so much is cos it makes me so hungry) and a rallying call for anyone stuck in a similar rut. The rhymes as strong as the beats, as the man puts it, 'discipline maketh the geez'. Dopest man in Walworth backing up the promise of the previous album in style. Oh and see the video before you die.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 42

Points: 337
No. of votes: 17
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: BELLE & SEBASTIAN
Title: I'M A CUCKOO
Label: Rough Trade
Year: 2004

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/imacuckoo.jpg

Comments: n/a (anybody?)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh shit - I will. Give me till tonight, plz.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i was listening to "izzo" in the car with a friend once, and he mis-heard the "niggas actin' like i sold you crack" line as "niggas actin' like a salty crack". i've never been able to hear it the same.

m. (mitchlnw), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I was expecting and hoping that Witness would be a lot higher.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Was Body Rock nominated? Did it even come out this decade?

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

the andy c track?

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

no, yes, and yes

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 41

Points: 337
No. of votes: 22
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: BOARDS OF CANADA
Title: IN A BEAUTIFUL PLACE OUT IN THE COUNTRY
Label: Warp
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/inabeautifulplace.jpg

Boards Of Canada have an unparalleled knack when it comes to wringing and heightening the inherent pathos of organ sounds and synths in general. I still don't know whether it's just my flaw that I find their attempts at evoking tranquility never without a tinge of the eerie. One continues to assume it is intentional. In any case it makes the material all the more remarkable and fascinating, despite the tendency to plod on without any real progress or particular direction. Children's laughter veers between heart-warming and spine-chilling depending on the company it keeps. Here it seems fervent in it's temerity (I've been at the dictionary loads). On this occasion, there's a deep, rich vocal that's engulfed by warm foamy water, at one point isolated from all other events, constituting the peak of this glazed vista. Mesmeric.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 40

Points: 340
No. of votes: 19
No. of #1 votes: 3

Artist: PHOENIX
Title: TOO YOUNG
Label: Virgin
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/tooyoung.jpg

Comments: A brilliant pop song sounding remarkably like a forgotten 80s gem. Like, when I drove around with some eyeliner-wearing college boys back in February, and it was snowing and we blared Take on Me out the car stereo and sang along, it could just as easily have been this song. jaymc

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 39

Points: 351
No. of votes: 26 (most votes for a track so far)
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: AALIYAH
Title: WE NEED A RESOLUTION
Label: Virgin
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/weneedaresolution.jpg

Comments: after reading tom's review in nylpm i listened to aaliyah's "we need a resolution" and thought it was one of the greatest things i'd ever heard. it suppose was one of the first times since pre-teenhood that i really connected with r&b emotionalism. mitch

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.freakytrigger.co.uk/nylpm/2001_04_01_nylpm_archive.html#3429191

Archivist, Monday, 23 August 2004 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 38

Points: 353
No. of votes: 18
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: ANDREW WK
Title: PARTY HARD
Label: Mercury
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/partyhard.jpg

Comments: ...I finally heard Andrew WK's "Party Hard" and was blown away. It's stupid as all hell, but so mega-catchy you won't be able to resist. It's kinda like Kiss with new-wave keyboards on top, and Glitter Band-style chanting background vocals, but way more amped up. It's great! Sean

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i remember the first time i heard andrew wk - my friend was supposed to copy me the smile sessions he had on his computer, and he was going to give it to me on april 1. we were both busy with school, so i didnt see him till like the 5th, at which point the copy of i get wet that he had labelled "smile sessions" was TOTALLY incomprehensible, even as a joke. nonetheless, i get wet blew the fucking shit out of any other 2002 album, perhaps excepting oneida. jesus, i cant even express how good andrew wk has been to me.

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn this all got good again pretty quickly :)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I was just about to say something along those lines.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 37

Points: 363
No. of votes: 17
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: RACHEL STEVENS
Title: SOME GIRLS
Label: Polydor
Year: 2004

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/somegirls.jpg

Comments: Richard X is like GI Joe - knowing is half the battle. Here, he has a mandate to produce a top 10 hit that isn't one of his trademark mashups of white synth heroes and adored 80s r'n'b/electropop classics, and with a one-time teen-pop group mainstay, who is seemingly bound and determined to remain in the big time with only one previous and compelling reason to do so. So, they team up They both like to dabble in schaffel, Rachel, because she got to no. 2 with it's first bona fide pure pop hit, Richard, because
any revival in tune with his childhood fancies (and his DJ sets) is fine with him. X's sense of knowing humour is naturally at play - if 'Sweet Dreams (My LA Ex)' was Goldfrapp's 'Train' for any and everyone, then 'Some Girls' is 'Strict Machine' and fairly deliberately at that. But it's a rousing success. Rachel's strengths and limitations are thrillingly utilized or sidestepped as she sings her little heart out and easily nails the spoken parts and vocal agility the phrasing calls for. But all she really needs is that chorus - between the way she sings it and the lyrics that perfectly
mirror her own situation and then some, it's instantly hummable, endlessly memorable. And of course, X's production is a marvel, adding his modern-classics sonics arsenal to a glam stomp that's as 80s as he likes it (Chris Moyles' only worthy moment: singing "Dr WHOOOOOO" over this on it's Radio 1 premiere) and above all showing all that pop junk absorption can help him stand confidently alone. So there you have it. Rachel and Richard. Together.Taking on all comers. And I'll tell you what, they bloody well win. Barima

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I know "we need a resolution" got at least one #1 vote!

bnw (bnw), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

check your mail bnw!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Something I regret not doing which would've helped: Mailing everyone back with their votes to check they are correct. My bad.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

if anyone's up for writing comments on the tracks coming up this evening gmail me NOW NOW NOW

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:46 (twenty-one years ago)

(ha i commented on it as my #1 but forgot to vote for it! please forgive me, baby-girl!)

bnw (bnw), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn this all got good again pretty quickly :)

It did and then didn't. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

haha steve i guess this means you dont need my "we need a resolution" comments then, eh?

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Barima makes "Some Girls" sound incredible rather than ok (which it is). Props for that! The dance routine that goes with it takes it to the brink of greatness, however.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

this list is so exciting. whatever people think of this or that individual placing, i think this will be a really interesting list when all is said and done.

amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

seriously, list who all voted for that plz

I voted for it

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, here's me on No.42: 'I'm A Cuckoo'

Out of the largely disappointing (to these ears) fifth Belle & Sebastian album comes this old-school epic from Stuart Murdoch. A sprawling mess of self-analysis and disjointed, unresolved feelings dressed up in bouncy bouncy indie disco riff-a-rama.

It's easy to take not much notice at first as Murdoch spits out his barrage of lines; to just get caught up in the exuberant swing of the thing. But he's all over place, by turns reflective, weary, flippantly self-effacing, and bitter. Sometimes it seems like he's getting somewhere, only for it all to fall apart with a desperate, stark, blurted "And I loved you / You know I loved you / It’s all over now." Suddenly you hear what's gone before with different ears; you hear someone struggling on the edge, choking back the tears, back to square one again and again. Blue-eyed soul, I guess.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

are the most recent b&s singles (which i haven't heard) in that love/zombies pastiche mode like that,uh, other single whose name i've forgotten? b/c that was an awful mess but the kind of awful mess i can see people defending at some lenght.

amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Some are, yes. I don't like them, much. Unless you mean 'I'm Waking Up To Us', which I do, a lot.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

These lists make me feel more alienated from ILM than I have for a while, but don't get all hopeful that I will go away.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Monday, 23 August 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

It is kind of sad though that no one seems to be able to write up something decent on why Kanye is great without getting all defensive or dissing Crunk and indulging in the same silly undie vs gansgta bullshit that he's been sent here to destroy in the first place (and I include myself in that statement, the part about the defensiveness, I mean.) I liked Christgau's take on it, mind you.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i feel "alienated" only b/c i haven't had any means of hearing a lot of these songs (no money, no broadband, etc.). but my reaction is basically one of optimism b/c i know that eventually i will hear them and i will proably like a lot of it and in general have lot of exciting reactions.

amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

no offense to the great steve m, but by the looks of the list so far i.e. the last selection only got 17 votes, not enough of you ilm bastards voted to make this much of a consensus.

bnw (bnw), Monday, 23 August 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

We're only at No.37!

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

And 17 votes between #1-#5 isn't the same thing as 17 votes between #11 and #15.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 23 August 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

This will never reach consensus, even when we get to number one (and thats's a good thing).

jed_ (jed), Monday, 23 August 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

...but on second thought i kinda know what you mean.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 23 August 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

If someone has lots of time on their hands, they could add up all the votes so far allocated to give an indication of how much the consensus has yet to ramp up.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

That's not possible without knowing what scores are being assigned to each vote.
It looks like we're seeing an avg. of 15-20 points/vote, and the rate of vote increase looks to be headed for ~40-50 votes for the #1 pick, which would be about 20-25% of the total voters (I think about 250 people voted?).
So with that average, we'd have about 700-800 points for the #1 pick, although it will likely be a bit above the average since so many people are likely to rank it high on their lists.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 23 August 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there any way I could see a list again of what was nominated for each?

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Monday, 23 August 2004 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Cool! Both of my nominations (St. Etienne and Goldfrapp) made it to the top 100. I'm so happy.

daavid (daavid), Monday, 23 August 2004 18:27 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah - i guess both of mine did too. im still waiting on my album #1, though...

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 23 August 2004 18:51 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 36

Points: 364
No. of votes: 19
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: CLIPSE
Title: GRINDIN'
Label: Arista
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/grindin.jpg

Comments: n/a (anybody?)

[SPECIAL MODERATOR ANNOUNCEMENT: The next 100 or so posts have no actual top 100 entries in and are mostly the kind of chit-chat that drives people to listen to Grandaddy records. Please ignore and accept our divers apologies.]

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 18:52 (twenty-one years ago)

36?! ARGH I HATE YOU PEOPLE THIS SONG IS LIKE A GREAT BELCHING TRUCKASAURUS OF DOOM WITH TWO EXTRAS FROM DONT BE A MENACE TO SOUTH CENTRAL WHILE DRINKING YOUR JUICE IN THE HOOD RAPPING OVER IT!!!!

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i am suddenly very very worried about the outcome of this list

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Damn this all got good again pretty quickly :)
-- Matt DC (runmd...), August 23rd, 2004.

I was just about to say something along those lines.
-- roxymuzak (emilysu...), August 23rd, 2004.

Damn this all got good again pretty quickly :)
It did and then didn't. ;-)

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), August 23rd, 2004.

i am suddenly very very worried about the outcome of this list
-- jess (wt...), August 23rd, 2004.

in the course of THREE ALBUMS, weve hit stratospheric highs and sub-crustular lows!

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

really tho, how many actual bad songs in the 100 so far?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

That's not possible without knowing what scores are being assigned to each vote.

Well, it is - numbers of votes cast are being listed as well as total points. It might not be a very meaningful figure, but seeing as steve told us somewhere how many people voted, one could work out the number of votes still to be allocated amongst the remaning 35 tracks.

Except it wouldn't work after all, as not everyone used all their 15 votes.

Carry on.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

7 (that I know to be bad)

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:12 (twenty-one years ago)

hey steve can you post a link to the full list so far again?

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think he's updated it for a while.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

well hop to it

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Except it wouldn't work after all, as not everyone used all their 15 votes.

And don't forget, 10 points deducted every time a track received a HATE VOTE


even 7 seems harsh Tico!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

No, generous I think. There are several others I suspect to be bad, and a few I wavered over before settling on 'bored of' or 'irritated by overpraise'. Mind you if ANY tracks off Amnesiac but those two had been selected it would only be 5.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate that hate vote. But it doesn't affect the figures for votes cast - only points.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate that hate vote too. If anything a track should have got an extra point for being hatered on!

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

We also don't know how many votes were allocated to tracks that didn't end up making the top 100.

I think my estimates a few posts up should be halfway decent. 25% consensus on the top tracks would be good, IMO, considering there were 200 or so tracks to choose from.

(xpost)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

On a quick count, there are 3 that I know to be bad, and about 8 that I assume are bad.

Barry, you are quite right and I am a fool.

I suspect that any calculation will fail to take into account the possibility that everyone except jed voted for 'Digital Love'.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I know this not to be a possibility, as I didn't vote for it.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/CMSIcons/emoticons/jumping/jump4.gif

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:21 (twenty-one years ago)

BTW despite my icy comments above I think this is a pretty good list and likely to be much less divisive than the albums one!

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

That's because there are only about 5 good albums.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

And of course my attitude to Stevem has shifted from "why are you doing this you madman?" to "give the man a medal"

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate that hate vote too

it was your suggestion!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry I meant its affecting the main poll rather than the hate vote itself which is classic.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

It has inspired me to copy the format for a best tracks of the 90s poll. But actually, maybe that would be really boring. It would probably have to be a top 200 too.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i was thinking of a 90s poll on my walk home today.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:30 (twenty-one years ago)

i was thinking of an 80s poll in my lunch break

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i was thinking of both last week

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/tracksupdate.html

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

good man.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

er, http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/tracksupdate.html

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i have a feeling all the tracks i'd think were crap are the ones i haven't heard

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't quite follow.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:35 (twenty-one years ago)

well i can probably guess that'd i think the granddaddy, blur, etc tracks would suck because i dont like them! but as i dont like them i've never heard them. i like most of what i have heard (everything except about 12-14 tracks).

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, right. There are quite a few things I haven't heard that I assume wouldn't suck. Quite a lot of them are hip-hop, but I'm just not in a hip-hop enough mood to try them out at the moment.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I will admit that I put Grandaddy in my bad list without hearing that specific track. Doing otherwise would be like waiting to see if a new monster in Doom was friendly or not.

I'm d/ling things now I hadn't heard.

I had NO IDEA "Anticipating" sounded like that!

Phoenix is OK but Ruffus' "80s Coming Back" did the same thing better.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't like the Phoenix. It doesn't sound like the other Phoenix I have heard.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

tico is your "anticipating" revelation good or bad?!

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Never thought I'd say this, but this list (and the other one) strike me as not nearly Pazz and Jop enough. Or, er, not "rockist" enough. Or something. They actually kinda depress me -- indie kids falling for boring "newness" and "production innovations" for their own sake. Way not fun enough. (That's just the IMPRESSION I get, but who knows, maybe I'm just being cranky, and maybe I'm wrong. Most of the tracks I remember hearing, which is at least half of them, are *okay,* I suppose. I guarantee, though, that this decade has not been anywhere near as boring as the tracks compiled on this thread suggest.)

chuck, Monday, 23 August 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure. I like the Braxe mix more. But I thought the original would just be a kind of weak electro-ish kitten-diva thing like In The Zone sounds when I'm not in the mood for it. So I'm happy that I now have two totally different Britney songs I like which happen to have the same name.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

did you vote, chuck?

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

You all have exactly two weeks to set up the 90s poll before I do it myself.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Or really, it reminds me a lot more of the end of year lists I used to see in NME or Melody Maker, which were always more interesting to LOOK AT (since I'd never heard of so many records and had no idea what the hell they were), but way less interesting once I actually heard the records, than the year end lists I used to see in the Voice.

And yeah, I voted. (A few of my records have shown up.)

Mainly, the lists make me wonder why so few people here likes rock music very much. (Not that I voted for mainly rock myself, but what the hey..)

chuck, Monday, 23 August 2004 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I got bored with rock. Unless you mean rock, in which case I was never very keen.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

You all have exactly two weeks to set up the 90s poll before I do it myself.

Can't we have a bit of a break?

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

probably because most of us were born after 1970?

xpost

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

This is really amazing -- there are loads of threads on ILM filled with complaints about lists and the publications/websites that compile them. Now we're all fighting over which list we should do next and who will organize it.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah yeah, Jess - Or not born in the USA. I know all the demographic excuses. (Though I don't get how they prevent one from seeking out all the interesting rock music that's been out there since 1970, or how they force one to opt for half-assed background music instead.) (Not that I have anything against background music per se', o'course.)

xpost

chuck, Monday, 23 August 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a pretty poor excuse for a fight.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

hey i love rock music! just not RECENT rock music. considering it was YOUR book which forced me to go back and rexamine old rock music chuck, we're probably on much the same wavelength pre-1976.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Rock music is a young man's game. (Jess, I consider you young but you don't have to like recent rock music).

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

R&B and dance music is a young woman's game. I prefer that game. I'm just typing random words here.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

also i'm a. someone who loved rap music as the first music i ever "loved" and b. an anglophilic ponce who got beat up by kids in zeppelin t-shirts, so i'm working from a handicap here.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a Darkness record.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Woah! Don't mess with this guy.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway - on with the list STEVEM.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't we have a bit of a break?

Fine, three weeks. Four weeks tops.

Any longer and you run the risk of running into end-of-year listmaking.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I was scared of Aerosmith and Kiss fans in high school, Jess! (a lot of whom were young women, Alba. As are many rock fans even nowadays.) Anyway, it took me less than two years to figure out that the kids I was afraid of beating me up had better taste in music than my friends.

chuck, Monday, 23 August 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

haha well yeah it took me about eight or nine.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I was never beaten up by rock kids.

What are three good recent rock records, just so I know what we're talking about here?

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

When our tastes didn't coincide in some way or another, the guys who bullied me in high school liked Iron Maiden and 'Weird Al' Yankovic, fer chrissakes.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

No, wait...one of them liked Def Leppard (circa Pyromania) a lot and I was scared of DL and their creepy weird videos, but then again initially I could hardly distinguish between them and Led Zeppelin.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

My sister had a Def Leppard single. It was the only heavy rock record she owned. She used to sometimes bully me, but I never felt oppressed by Def Leppard.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

my "theory" above about myself is crap on some levels when i recall that my favorite band in third grade was def leppard, and my second favorite band between the ages of 10-13 was gnr.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

More new-to-me tracks (if anyone cares)

Stereo Total - like this a great deal, to my surprise, ramshackle 60s stuff going on, also the French language is reliably attractive.

Kylie vs Fischerspooner - just about alright but very theoretical

Mirah - pretty but far too bitty.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Jess exposed in revisionist rock history scandal!

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

well i was american!

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i was roundly mocked one day for singing the words to "pour some sugar on me" to myself in class (when i thought no one could hear)

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i was mocked for singing a jethro tull song!

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's interesting just how narrow the range of genres actually is on the lists. Like maybe there really is a hive mind after all. But I guess it may have more to do with the simple fact of what music has been heard by lots of people. Most of us could have nominated personal favorite tracks that no one here has heard, I assume. I had mostly only heard the Top 40 stuff on the list, so that's what I had to pick from.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I was praised for singing a Shirley Bassey song!

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Barima makes "Some Girls" sound incredible rather than ok (which it is). Props for that! The dance routine that goes with it takes it to the brink of greatness, however.

The couple of writeups I've submitted have reminded me that I once loved being a student music journalist.
-- R.I.M.A. (b4rim4_...), August 18th, 2004.


However, I'm ashamed and frustrated to admit that I missed everything from Rachel and Sport Relief's publicity blitz to the video. Repeatedly.

Tom, I have this awesome Stereo Total 2x7" and one track breaks into 'Song 2' in a moment of inspired roXor riffing.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Rockist - well, I agree there's an inordinate amount of indie rock, by anyone's yardstick bar an indie rocker. Also, no jazz? Little if anything from outside the western world? Little death metal? Non-alt country? Not much avant-garde. I guess these things are pretty inevitable.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I was scared of Aerosmith and Kiss fans in high school, Jess! (a lot of whom were young women, Alba. As are many rock fans even nowadays.) Anyway, it took me less than two years to figure out that the kids I was afraid of beating me up had better taste in music than my friends.
-- chuck (cedd...), August 23rd, 2004.

this explains alot.

amateur!!st, Monday, 23 August 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm wondering--if we did a 90s list, would anyone nominate Nevermind? What about "Smells Like Teen Spirit"?

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Well I think any poll is going to smooth out the eccentricities of those being polled -- we weren't simply listing our fifteen favorite tracks but our fifteen favorite tracks from a list of entries that other people nominated. That already are sifts out some of the hardcore irregulars right there.

The poll says both that a) there aren't enough jazz/country/avant lovers on ILx but also, just as tellingly b) the ones that are here can't form a consensus as to what the jazz/country/avant landmarks from 2000-2004 are.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

(Except for Big and Rich)

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:48 (twenty-one years ago)

(Not that I'm a country lover by any mark; liker, certainly)

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

What does it explain? (Not that I'm disagreeing with you, exactly.)

I agree with Rockist's and Alba's most recent posts, which was actually my point - The Pazz and Jop lists are WAY more varied and less stuck in their own little rut, which really surprises me. (Isn't the vast majority of the stuff on here basically Pitchfork music??)

xpost (the first question was of am't'r'st)

chuck, Monday, 23 August 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

One thing that I've found interesting about the poll is how little ILM changes its mind about something it's got collectively enthused about. The board can seem fickle sometimes but I don't think it is - its flashes in the pan stay smouldering. The fact that Daft Punk's records are being talked about as potential poll-toppers here when the board was maybe 1/20 as busy in March 2001 shows that some kind of thread of continuity endures.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

It's not a little rut - it's a hivemind, I'll have you know.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

(I still want to know you're idea of three good recent rock albums, so that I know what you mean by 'rock')

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"Your idea" - bleuch.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

What is once fresh iconoclasm becomes a steady standby.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I still wish I'd nominated another LP/song that wouldn't have been otherwise nominated. I mean I LOVE Dear Catastrophe Waitress and "B.O.B." but still...

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

And Andrew WK!! I mean, does the rest of the world even remember Andrew WK, let alone put two tracks and one album in a 'best-of-decade' poll?!

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Is he rock?

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope so!

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

tico i'll have you know andrew wk has his own tv show

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I just don't know anymore, Tico!

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

>(I still want to know you're idea of three good recent rock albums, so that I know what you mean by 'rock')<

My three favorite rock albums this year are probably the ones by Black Lips, Red Swan, and the Living Things. But if you look at this link, and link to all the other lists at the bottom, you'll learn about LOTS of good rock albums this year, of many kinds. (EPs, too!!)

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0433/eddy.php

chuck, Monday, 23 August 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

As for why the poll has turned out how it did, I think a kind of party-politics thing has happened. The two major 'blocs' of taste on ILM - people whose main interests are indie rock and IDM, and people who like perm-3-from chartpop/mainstream R&B/hip-hop/electro/house - have been more motivated to vote.

xpost Jess really? That makes me happy.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, "your friend, andrew wk". he goes around trying to help people out and make their dreams come true.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

(Well, my *real* favorite rock albums of the year are some country albums and reissues of early '70s metal. But that's beside the point.)

chuck, Monday, 23 August 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Hold on Andrew WK is the American Jimmy Saville?

(post made for benefit of Alba alone I expect)

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, Big & Rich are a huge exception. I totally forgot them. (And possibly Lambchop, too, maybe?)

What does it explain? (Not that I'm disagreeing with you, exactly.)

Um...I'm a little confused here: what does what explain? I'm just sorta unclear about who and what this was referring to.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

This is indeed terrific news!

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I hope they get medals saying 'I GOT WET'.

(thanks, btw, chuck - I understand now.)

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

People are going to be very cross in the morning when they see 200 new answers and no sodding updates. I apologise for my part in this appalling derailment.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

the girls at the all-black college made him take a bath in a sink

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Humanity's dreams have shrunk since the days of wearing a cyberman suit and appearing on TV with Curiosity Killed The Cat.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe Jim could still fix it for humanity?

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd like to watch the show that Rich Nice from Lyte Funky Ones does. I heard JC Chasez got to taser him with a 60,000 volt nut shot. A triumph for all mankind!

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

my new quandary: preparing set for thursday night vs keeping this bitch up to date

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

wow did this thread get derailed.

i think pazz and jop is more varied because the voting system is different. i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one who voted for stuff that never would make it into my own personal fifteen. another difference wrt to p&j is that those polls only take into account one year as opposed to five. i wonder how the p&j would look if the votes for the past five years were tallied and then ranked.

tricky disco (disco stu), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Will people stop saying 'Pazz and Jop'? It makes me want to break things.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

actually skip that last sentence. it's obvious what it would look like.

xp, haha alba.

tricky disco (disco stu), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

why is ilm so betrothed with the village voice???

tricky disco (disco stu), Monday, 23 August 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

how many votes does P&J get? the way i see it, limiting the number of things people could vote for was the only surefire way of enough tracks and albums getting enough votes to result in a worthwhile list.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

right, the alternatives are too many tracks/albums to vote for or blindly submitted lists with nothing in common. the latter is debatable of course...

tricky disco (disco stu), Monday, 23 August 2004 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

>how many votes does P&J get?<

I don't understand this question...

chuck, Monday, 23 August 2004 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

In the sense of, how many ballots are sent out (and how many are returned?)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 August 2004 22:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Tico, how depressing, it's just like U.S. electoral politics. It's bad enough that I have to vote for Kerry. (At least I got to split my vote between the two dissatisfactory parties for this survey.)

I hope these comments don't bum out stevem. I think we are all impressed by how thoroughly you organized this, stevem. (I am at any rate.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Monday, 23 August 2004 23:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw the most beautiful woman in the Burmese restaurant I went to for some take-out.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure I understand how P&J is "more varied". I just looked back at the '03 results and if by more varied you mean "extremely similar except for the inexplicably high placing of Fountains of Wayne" then I'd agree. Otherwise, except for a slightly less than enthusiastic response to MOR rawk critical darlings, I think that Steve's poll (and method) have really represented the face of ILM (thus far). And as for it being "pitchfork music", we've only just cracked the top 40 and I like how certain wacky tracks have shown up (I mean, is that really Dismemberment Plan's generally regarded best track?).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

this sentence:
"Otherwise, except for a slightly less than enthusiastic response to MOR rawk critical darlings, I think that Steve's poll (and method) have really represented the face of ILM (thus far)."

is screwed up.

It should be:
"Otherwise, except for ILM's slightly less than enthusiastic response to MOR rawk critical darlings, this poll is far more varied than P&J."

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, Pazz and Jop's top 40 last year was about 50 percent or so (more or less) indie rock type stuff, and 50 percent or so other stuff, if I remember right. Including rock bands and old farts mostly ignored by this poll. (I've complained for 20 years about P&J results being too homogenized, and 2003 was one of the most homogenized years ever thanks to lots of new indie-ass-kissing web critics, so I'm not about to defend how varied it is. It's never been open to commercial country -- Big & Rich might not finish this year, despite my 30 points, though I HOPE I'm wrong-- or metal, and jazz and music from non-English speaking countries have never done too well, either. Not sure how Fountains of Wayne's finish is inexplicable, though, given all the other powerless powerpop stuff that wound up in the top 10.)

So anyway, maybe I'm WRONG about Pazz& Jop being more varied, at least last year; somebody should do a mathematical comparison, if that's even possible. But this list sure STRIKES ME as more one-dimensional. And P&J has definitely been more varied in the past.

chuck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

GET A MOVE ON STEVEM!!!

did i tell you what a great job you were doing btw....?

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)

(by last year's top 40, I meant albums not singles, though. The singles list is ALWAYS more interesting than the album list, and last year was no exception, "Stacy''s Mom" or no "Stacy's Mom.")

chuck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

a quick glance at p&j 00 - 03 shows lots of timba & 'tunes rap/r'n'b plus various indie friendly groups. Occasionally theres a Dylan or DIxie Chicks, but its pretty slim pickings. As has been said a hundred times on ILM, polls homogenize taste but they're still fun.

bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

chuck, stevem/Ned's question is still urgent and key: how many foaks vote fer Pazz & Jop? A hell of a lot more than the ones that voted for this, I'd assume, no? Thus more chances for variety.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

732 critics voted last year; we sent out 1300 or so ballots. (But more voters =/ more variety, necessarily; depends who the voters are. You could have more variety with two voters than with 700, obviously.)

chuck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I guess, part of the problem is, I EXPECTED ILM people to have more varied tastes than the P&J electorate, which still includes plenty of dead wood. So I'm kind of surprised to have my expectations shattered; I don't equate ILM with Pitchfork, but maybe I should.

chuck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Or (maybe this is more fair) with metacritic.com or whoever...

chuck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:09 (twenty-one years ago)

On the other hand, if you liked more of what was on the list, would you care so much about it not being varied? (I'm thinking that if a list like this actually included mostly stuff that I liked, I wouldn't mind that it wasn't any more varied than this.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:13 (twenty-one years ago)

well more certainty of boring consensus too (trust me i'm taking statistics this quarter)(it's, um, chevy chase's theorem or something). this thing had a nomination process and a low voting turnout which means more outrage and less certainty (i'd have thought grindin top twenty for sure along with a couple of other things)(low voting turnouts lead to things like the 94 election)(gotv people). i'm guessing chuck's 'background music' refers more to 'electronic' music (and maybe gybe!?) and less to clipse but who knows (i'm pretty sure clipse was alot more likely to actually be deployed as background music - teens are alot more likely to cruise to hip-hop than techno)(nobody listens to techno), but maybe 'background music' just means 'no lyrics' or maybe it's just another spin on the old generation gap game that you see whenever musto whines 'how come noone dances to songs anymore?' or the drummer from gay dad tells us to raise the drawbridge. only the good die young.

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think that equating it with either one of those sites is fair (tho I dunno 'bout metacritic, haven't read it much); I think this list is still very different from what Pitchfork would come up with. But yeah, ILM's demographic has always included lots of ppl who love Indie and Chartpop and fewer ppl who love Country or Salsa or Soca or whatever. But it *is* at least more open minded about the genres that aren't its main thang than most other places, i think.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, I voted for the Clipse song, actually. So there you go.

xpost

chuck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

so anyway Rockist, tell me more about this woman at the restaurant.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 01:58 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 35

Points: 370
No. of votes: 17
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: VITALIC
Title: LA ROCK 1
Label: Gigolo
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/larock.jpg

Comments: ...La Rock is the true earth shaker, so many memories, at my friends 21st they had some cheesey dj all night obviously cos parents and all were present but at the end he asked the dj to put on "number 25 please" on the 2 many djs cd that was in his discman, and the whole place went insane. the table with his parents were looking at all the young people and it was like the generation gap was opening before their eyes, half the room thinking "this sounds like a broken appliance" and the other half thinking "gehao;chasdckesdhgfcied WOOOOO Ronan

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Only #35? FUCK YOU ALL!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 09:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I always thought Poney II and You Prefer Cocaine were infinitely better than La Rock 01.

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 09:23 (twenty-one years ago)

DL, you are mad. MDC = OTM. I really should have got off my arse and voted in this, shouldn't I?

Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 09:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Which is which? Phonetic transcriptions of dance noises please (actually there should be a thread for that...)

Vitalic Conundra, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

La Rock 01 is the one that goes "wowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowowwowow" very fast and sounds like its being repeatedly detuned up and down,

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 09:40 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm pretty sure there is

La Rock 01 is the one on As Heard On Radio Soulwax vol 2 (2 Many DJs)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 09:41 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a great track.

his parents were looking at all the young people and it was like the generation gap was opening before their eyes,

wow, that still happens!

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

But Poney II (i think that's it - the tracklisting was messed up the first time round) has that terrifyingly loud melody that sounds like a thousand Darth Vaders come to take over the earth!

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

a couple months ago i realized i'd heard poney ii and either la rock 01 or poney pt i, but i wasn't sure which. and went slsking to find out, and it took me about 5 aborted downloads before i got to the actual correctly labelled la rock 01. just a word of caution.

m. (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

i only recently realised what Poney 1 was as well - prior to Siegbran's 'I Luv Poney' I had heard Adamski (i think) mix it with 'We Need A Resolution' on his Adam Sky mix from last year

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry to rederail, but what must one do to get in on the P+J vote ceddy?
Does this involve crucifying a goat on a rock?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

bury a baby up to its head in human excrement and light it on fire under a new moon

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

That's it?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i can't find a baby, will a kind edwards potato suffice?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Well I think any poll is going to smooth out the eccentricities of those being polled -- we weren't simply listing our fifteen favorite tracks but our fifteen favorite tracks from a list of entries that other people nominated. That already are sifts out some of the hardcore irregulars right there.
The poll says both that a) there aren't enough jazz/country/avant lovers on ILx but also, just as tellingly b) the ones that are here can't form a consensus as to what the jazz/country/avant landmarks from 2000-2004 are.

-- Michael Daddino (epicharmu...), August 23rd, 2004. (later)

Also jazz/'avant' (hate that word), despite being of an album lenght affair, is kind of 'funny' as an 'album'. Leaving that aside it really is all about a) --> there just aren't enough people for threads to go beyond 10 answers. If there are enuff ppl, there could've been a consensus.

(though I'd like to think that ppl who like this stuff and don't like to canonize but its prob not true)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Yuck - my 'I'm A Cuckoo' comments look completely stupid and actually wrong today.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:34 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 34

Points: 378
No. of votes: 16
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: PHOENIX
Title: IF I EVER FEEL BETTER
Label: Virgin
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/ifieverfeelbetter.jpg

Breaking up never sounded so good. Deft production and an overall sublime feel make this one of the best melancholic pop songs you can dance to of the last five years. With Buffalo Bunch and Todd Edwards remixes equally strong.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

34 arrrrrrgh

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

There's more you can say about the song but I can't summon it.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

reelin in the years

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

steely dan house

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

this is all turning out so contentious

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

except that phoenix is one of the few bands steely dan could beat up

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

well they ARE french, after all

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

touche

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

(haha I liked hard rock and was scared of LL Cool J and Dee-Lite fans! It took me years to concede that they might have been justified in hating me.)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 33

Points: 383
No. of votes: 19
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: DAFT PUNK
Title: HARDER, BETTER, FASTER, STRONGER
Label: Virgin
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/harderbetterfasterstronger.jpg

Making their first appearance in the list with a highlight from 2001's 'Discovery'. Plundering Edwin Birdsong's 'Cola Bottle Baby' for their aerobics workout with the fundamental message 'non, NOUS sommes les robots'. The clever sequencing of the vocoded message seems quite rare for a dance track in it's sophistication, as if there's a conundrum to be solved, a jigsaw of flashing disco floor panels being assembled methodically but on time. Or some blue aliens have been captured and undergoing a transformation process so they don't raise as many eyebrows on the forthcoming tour. Breakers Break and Neptunes remixes only adding to the fun.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

(not that I ever actually got beat up, let alone for my music taste. Does that actually happen a lot?)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

(Ultimately, my only question is: Which Tull song, Tico?)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

More ammo for 'Digital Love' obviousness?

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I was a queer new waver (even if the first accusation was false and the second one was only very partially true).

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:33 (twenty-one years ago)

(Oh wait, in Grade 5 I did get beat up sometimes but it was more for being scrawny and smartassed. I also beat up even smaller kids that year. That was the only year though . . . wait, in Grade 10 I did fight with friends who rubbed me the wrong way . . . Hmm, I tend to victim-identify re childhood but it appears that I gave as much as I got. My second question is why don't the bullies ever seem to grow up to write about it? Anyway, there's a list here, right? Maybe I should get around to listening to some of it some time.)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

1)That's a much better track than Digital Love and One More Time.

2)If someone does do a 90s poll can we get rid of the nominating part and just let people vote for their top 15. My votes for this thing didn't really represent my favourites that well.

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

By the way, I have nothing against background music (as in, yeah, music without vocals fairly often but more accurately without any energy whatsoever vocalwise or otherwise -- Cinniblount is right that people play Clipse in the background, but Clipse music doesn't insist on STAYING in the background; in fact it does its very best to stay otherwise, so it's not what I meant); here's some Muzak I like though:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0428/eddy.php

What I wrote was "HALF-ASSED background music", and that half-assed half is important; i.e., I was complaining about was the PREVELANCE here of lethargic elevator stuff (as in immediately cannonized and apparently random bandwagon mediocrities a la M83, Godspeed You Black Emperor, Radiohead, Boards of Canada, Belle and Sebastian, Junior Boys, etc --so: NOT just techno, though if Musto does indeed wonder why kids don't dance to songs anymore, he has as much of a point as any platitudinous joker claiming songs and guitars are, uh, "dated" or "passe'", exept for that fact of course that lotsa kids DO still dance to songs) in LIEU of music that still manages to rock houses.

chuck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

chuck some of those bands have been around for over a decade...how is it random or bandwagon?

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

over should also = almost

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

'Elevator music' becomes a kind of useless critical term if it starts just being applied to anything you don't like.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm also confused as to what full-assed wallpaper would sound like

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Boards of Canada are pretty.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean I hate Radiohead as much as the next man, but I know that they're striving to really mean something man, which isn't what I think of as elevator music.

I wish elevators played Belle & Sebastian.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

There's plenty of elevator music I like (as I showed), and plenty of stuff I don't like I wouldn't call elevator music (most death metal, for instance), so I don't understand Alba's comment at all. "Random" was maybe a little bit less fair, as Jess points out (they seem random to me mostly because I don't like them, though there really does seem to be a random bandwagon aspect to, say, the plugging of M83, just like say Manitoba last year. I mean, they're not even that distinctive, you know? But, right, maybe I just don't *hear* their distinctiveness. Again, it wouldn't bug me so much if there were a couple, say, random bandwagon obscure garage rock or stoner rock {or death metal} bands on this list to balance their lethargy out.)

chuck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

two wrongs don't make a right chuck!

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm just struggling for a connection between all the bands you cited, chuck. Is it like Billy Corgan's "But my whole thing is that people don't fall in love to Pavement, people don't get up in the morning before they go to school and put on Big Black. They put on Smashing Pumpkins or Hole or Nirvana, because these bands actually mean something to them. It's the difference between music you put on to take drugs to, and music you put on to live your life." ?

Not that I'm advocating taking drugs in an elevator.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

But hell, why not? Take drugs in an elevator and fart if Billy Corgan gets in.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:51 (twenty-one years ago)

All the bands Chuck mentions are kinda swooshy.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been listening to some of the stuff I voted for lately, and I think I overrated the indie-rock singles and underrated the pop singles. It's really hard for me to compare the two, I think.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I am thinking about this 'swooshy' thing.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i think maybe alex means their body shapes

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Does swooshy = skinny?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:00 (twenty-one years ago)

well all those bands could probably do with a good home cooked meal, yes

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Stuart Murdoch eats a lot of ready-made fish pies, so maybe we have got to the bottom of this.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I already answered Alba's question, I thought: start with "without any energy whatsoever vocalwise or otherwise", move on to "lethargy," and work from there. That'd cover pretty much all those bands, no? (At least inasmuch as I remember what all of them sound like, anyway. Part of my problem even with elevator music that I like is that I only remember what it sounds like *while it's actually on*, y'know? Which is one reason why even when there's background music that I enjoy, the music that winds up meaning the *most* to me has actual songs in it. I suppose you could pass that off as a "generational" thing, but you'd be full of shit, given that teenpop and teen-rock and teen-rap are full of actual songs, good ones and bad ones alike.)

chuck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

(And I know, I know, Belle and Sebastian *do* have songs. Blah blah blah. They're very very very very *quiet* songs, so I rest my case.)

chuck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

If everyone had to sound packed with energy when they sang to be classed as any good, I think things would be a bit limiting.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

M83, Godspeed You Black Emperor, Radiohead, Boards of Canada, Belle and Sebastian, Junior Boys

French, Canadian, English, Scottish, Scottish, Canadian

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

O no, I've inadvertently launched a defence of the indie-schmindie voice. What have you got me into?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

(there are of course a billion wonderful quiet songs, but I guess you have your aesthetic)

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know what proves, but it's something.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

It proves that Scotland rules the swoosh!

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

But Alba, again, you're completely ignoring my (oft-repeated) point, which is: If everyone WASN'T ALLOWED to sound packed with energy when they sang to be classed as any good (which is what this poll mostly suggests), things would be just as limiting, wouldn't they?

chuck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Godspeed and Boards of Canada don't really have "vocals," though, by and large. Samples, yeah, but off the top of my head I don't sense a stylistic connection between the vox used. (GYBE is awfully fond of old dudes from what I remember.)

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

"If everyone WASN'T ALLOWED to sound packed with energy when they sang to be classed as any good (which is what this poll mostly suggests), things would be just as limiting, wouldn't they?"

How does this poll suggest this?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I should clarify: both Godspeed and Boards of Canada usually use samples of spoken word stuff, as opposed to sung or rapped or what have you.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

(xp) M83, too. (Except for the shoegazery vocals at the end of "Run Into Flowers" and then the barely audible Don't Look Now sample somewhere later.)

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Mmm...yeah about the M83 track. That's really the only song which I noticed on the album and boy did I ever notice it.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I said "vocalwise or otherwise."
And Alex, read my previous posts.

chuck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

There's plenty of good old-fashioned energy in the R&B and rap vocals. The dance tracks have energy elsewhere, if not in the fucking awesome energy-packed vocals of some of them. And there are a few rock tracks that I don't know about that might have energy.

I admit that personally, I turn off a bit at new and raucous rock vocals these days, at least when it's not done with (funny) humour. I just can't take it seriously. I think raucous rock has been done so much to death and I'd rather listen to 'Exile On Main St' than hear someone go through the motions again. But that's just me.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean I know they probably don't feel like they're going through the motions, but that's the way the experience ends up being for me.

I shouldn't have said that thing about humour - it's suggesting terrible things in my mind. And I do quite like some... smart rock, like Fiery Furnaces or Sons & Daughters. I dunno.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

imagine a 90s poll without controlled nominations tho - what a horrible mess! and the winning album would only have 8 votes or something.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

it's nice that they make paintboxes that have more than just the primary colors.

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I was thinking of a devishly complex, perfect voting system in my bed last night. I should work for the Electoral Reform society. Or get out more.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

And *Exile* (the Stones' tenth best album or something? 15th? I'll have to check with Frank Kogan; he knows) has what, two or three remotely raucous songs? Wow. (But yeah, I agree that the rap and r&b cuts here are exceptions to what I've been saying. So is Big and Rich, for that matter. And Junior Senior. And I'm sure there are more exceptions to come, rap and otherwise. At least I hope so.) (I'm not even gonna start on the, uh, "smart" rock thing, though. Jeez...)

chuck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

"And Alex, read my previous posts."

Hmmn. Actually looking over the list there are a bunch of blah things. I'm kind of shocked the list isn't better as well. But I don't see it as being totally Pitchfork-y (there is still a lot of pop on here--the albums list on the other hand *cough cough*) but since there is a large indie-ish contingent on ILM, I am not shocked that this is pretty well represented here.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I know! I'm completely inconsistent when it comes to 'smart' (yeach, yes) in rock vs. 'smart' in other genres.

I'm sorry that I have failed the raucous Stones test.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, OK, you did say "or otherwise." Though getting back to the vocal issue I think much of the drama from wispy unenergetic Paul Simon-y vocals comes not really from the vocals themselves but from the way the music drowns them out through sheer volume (being overwhelmed by music = being overwhelmed by life, emotions, etc.)

Anyway I almost chalk my fondness for entropic music to the peculiarities of my constitution: I can have a ball watching clouds in the sky or water evaporate from a mopped floor.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't even like Fiery Furnaces that much. That was a bit of a red herring, and I apologise for giving them a crap label.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe you just don't like indie? and don't need to devise labyrinthine explanations as to why it's inferior to what you do like?


xxxxpost

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

substitute "convoluted" for "labyrinthine"

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

BASICALLY I AM AFRAID TO ROCK.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

but are you afraid of 'la rock'??? vitalic is the most 'energetic' thing here therefore european dance music wins again!

pete b. (pete b.), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, i wasn't replying to know, alba. :)

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

to YOU

fuck i can't type today

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I know. I was in my own world.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I like *lots* of indie (more in the '80s & '00s than '90s, though)...
And this intro to the previous list I linked to was totally inpspired by Michael Daddino's great 2002 Pazz and Jop ballot, where he said that many of the albums he voted for, he'd mainly just heard their first halfs when he was still awake: "Most pretentious shopping list yet—and relaxing at bedtime and soothing during hangovers, to boot!"

chuck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:36 (twenty-one years ago)

how iconoclastic

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 32

Points: 395
No. of votes: 16
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: SLEATER-KINNEY
Title: OH!
Label: Kill Rock Stars
Year: 2002

ihttp://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/oh.jpg

Comments: n/a (anybody?)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Gulp!

Well, since then almost all of my music-listening has been on headphones while at work, on the bus or running (and hence my picks-to-click have so far been very, very different from years past). I still NEED to have SOMETHING on while I sleep but lately it's been the TV. I wake up to QVC a LOT.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

that's tracks not albums in the img url obv. - a little help?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Really, by and large, the shift in my music-listening contexts was largely prompted by a regime change at work.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:45 (twenty-one years ago)

(No biggie, Michael; I was obviously just referencing your old ballot to be "iconoclastic," anyway. Which should be obvious to anyone.)

chuck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Random thought: I wish Ian MacDonald were still with us.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Amst -- I faintly remember saying something mildy jerky about "iconoclasm" and Chuck Eddy way back on alt.music.alternative...you're not reffing that, God forbid?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd say something about how "Oh!" reminds me of 7th grade dances and the Bangles but I've spilled enough banal ink already

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 31

Points: 399
No. of votes: 24
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE
Title: NO-ONE KNOWS
Label: Polydor
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/nooneknows.jpg

Josh Homme only has to raise a wry eyebrow in the video and I'm strangely impressed. On record, his tuneful bawling reveals some trace of soul in there...somewhere, tormented by desert spirits yadda yadda. The uptempo stomp helps shove it right into your brain and if you're lucky it won't make too much mess. Debauched, passionate, enjoyable nonsense fraught with fear, straight out of the comic books.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Everything I've heard by Queens of the Stone Age (which has all been stuff I accidentally heard on the radio) has been really horrible.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

ditto. they were embarrassingly bad on letterman.

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I love how doing this has really helped my salesman skills

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

you like any kyuss, rockist?

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:48 (twenty-one years ago)

What's kyuss?

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 30

Points: 434
No. of votes: 22
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: THE STROKES
Title: HARD TO EXPLAIN
Label: Rough Trade
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/hardtoexplain.jpg

Comments: There's something about the Strokes, the way that all the instruments are in metronome-perfect rhythm and Julian's voice is scrawled all over them, that gets me everytime. It's some kinda weird, inside out, reverse emotion through coolness effect.
Maciej

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

x-post

Anyway keep in mind:

However, I haven't made a serious effort to follow rock music for about a decade now.
-- Rockist Scientist (rockistscientis...), October 4th, 2002.


-- Gear! (drink_to_remembe...), August 5th, 2004.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I used that on 'Last Nite' already, haha

xpost

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

it's redundant, sort of like the Strokes!

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Slsk: 100-32 in "ILM Top 100", user self-explanatory...

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I feel you on QOTSA, RS

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

alt.music.alternative

i've never been on there, but i probably said something jerky about chuck eddy & "iconoclasm" right here on ILM

so when is "how you remind me" going to show up?

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i feel like deleting every non-stevem post from this thread for the last 70 or so

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

you're a mod, right? just pull the trigger.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

i feel like deleting every non-stevem post from this thread for the last 70 or so

It would be nice, actually. Perhaps they could be moved to another thread. Maybe, "Discuss: the top 100 tracks" or some such...

frankE (frankE), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

"imagine a 90s poll without controlled nominations tho - what a horrible mess! and the winning album would only have 8 votes or something."

OK - can I nominate all the tracks then?

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

a. that strokes cover is really nice
b. i do not get the radiohead hataz

tricky disco (disco stu), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

what tricky disco said. plus i hate the music of the strokes. and i hope there won't be any more strokes songs in the top 29. and there will be at least two more radiohead songs. with pyramid song hopefully making #1.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

In the 'I Knew We Forgot Something' category: I just looked at the google cache of the nominees and realized that "A Stroke of Genius" was not listed :(

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry jess

amateur!!st, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:06 (twenty-one years ago)

i think Spencer should nominate all the tracks, for serious

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

"ILM Top 100 2000-2004 Peter Saville installation soundtrack efforts"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

my suggestion is when this is wrapped up, we just have a Top 100 Most Glaring Omissions thread with reasons why just to cover for all future complaints. it's inevitable anyway. or perhaps we could all do our own separate ones haha

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

For Sleater-Kinney's "Oh" (feel free to reject it in favor of something better like Gear's thing above (about being gawky)):

SK always had a jones for sliding pop melodies in between raging guitars, though their effort previous to "Oh!" -- "You're No Rock and Roll Fun" -- stripped the distortion for girl-group harmonies, and what was left was a nice, half-done song that lacked the usual SK punch.

Oboy oboy did they nail it on "Oh!" Carrie's vocals swing and pop above the anthemic-in-miniature guitars like the "bubble in a soundwave" that Corin was calling for in the opening track, jabbing playfully and preening.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's an old but not especially profound post of mine for Phoenix - "If I Ever Feel Better"

"The lyrics are amazing. They're nonsense in a Black Box way, but more focused emotionally and they make oddly profound sense. Also, the guitar on that track sounds like Johnny Marr at his Smiths best."

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

'Part of my problem even with elevator music that I like is that I only remember what it sounds like *while it's actually on*, y'know? Which is one reason why even when there's background music that I enjoy, the music that winds up meaning the *most* to me has actual songs in it'

Why is it not being able to remember something when its turned off a problem?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I voted for "Hard To Explain". I'm glad it did so well, it's loads better than "Last Nite".

Stevem you missed a good night out tonight, but I'm glad you did this instead.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 23:04 (twenty-one years ago)

"Hard To Explain" is easily their best track, although I hadn't listened to it in a long time since I got my riff-fix from "A Stroke Of Genius" - I'm not sure which version I like more, in fact I wish someone would work out a mash-up duet!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 23:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish they'd been the last ever indie band, they were so tidy, they deserved that at least.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

That is the best word on the Strokes I've ever read.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah the drummer is pretty tidy.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 23:22 (twenty-one years ago)

>Why is it not being able to remember something when its turned off a problem?<

Well, it's probably not, except when I'm making a list at the end of the year and all I can remember about something is that I like it, not WHY I like it, in which case it will naturally lose out to something that I both like AND remember why (perhaps because, in the latter case, I can actually hum the words). Ditto when I'm purging my shelves to make space for new CDs; the "why the hell did I keep this again?" stuff tends to be the first stuff to go, in most cases. Lots of background music just plains lacks PERSONALITY, as far as I can tell. Which is okay, as far as that goes -- Not all good music HAS to have personality. But the very BEST stuff usually does, I think.

chuck, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Am I the only who likes "Last Nite" more? "A Stroke of Genius" wipes the floor with the original so well it's just ridiculous.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

"Last Nite" is scientifically not as good as "Hard to Explain" (*see above). I think some people like "Last Nite" as more of a balls-to-wall rocker - but "Hard to Explain" is pretty much perfect to me - and at the risk of being contrarian, I'm going to say I've decided I like it more than "A Stroke..."

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 00:30 (twenty-one years ago)

You are dead to me. (More seriously, Julian vocals = song is buzz in buzz out. Xtina vocals = holy hell, EVERYTHING works. I'll grant that not being able to use the actual Strokes chorus is sad but you can't have everything.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

And I don't think of "Last Nite" as a straight ahead rocker per se -- in fact what I like most about it are the drums (most of their other songs, they should have just gotten the drum machines in and fucked with people's heads).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 00:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Last Nite has a nicer shuffle to it, and it's more melodic.

Hard to Explain is a metronomic blur.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

"Hard to Explain" is more melodic to me and "metronomic blur" is a lovely and apt description.

xpost: Oh Ned, I thought you were able to rationalize some sort of eeked out like for them as a boy band or something. I'll take Julian's vocals and sad lyrics - but only slightly over Christina's (also, I've always liked the original "Genie.." much more than the fun exercise of "A Stroke of")

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

"metronomic blur" is a lovely and apt description.

It's like Kraftwerk done WRONG. That's always been my complaint and I've got the Focus Group comment to prove it, somewhere.

I thought you were able to rationalize some sort of eeked out like for them as a boy band or something

No indeed -- I also realize in that article that I forgot to do the best possible comparison, which would be to Duran Duran. And nothing the Strokes have done would even best a B-side from the days of Rio.

sad lyrics

Lyrics? What are those? *hides*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Hm, actually I take that back, I DID mention Duran. Good.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 00:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, can I please just really love this song? thx.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

You were the one talking 'scientifically' first. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 00:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"Barely Legal" smokes both those boring-ass tunes.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Perv.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

After some pretty obsessive listening of Is This It, "Last Nite" seems to have aged (if you can call it that after three years) the worst of all. It sounds as though it was specifically designed for the sort of manufactured-cool arguments wielded against the Strokes during their debut. All the right ingridients for jaded critics to pan - minimal playing, the typical rock boy alienation and mysoginy, and very little else. Somehow they managed to infuse apathy into the most straight-ahead guitar rock song they've ever done.

Barely Legal is good but why is there no "Someday" love on here? The lead guitar opening up ten seconds after the start, Albert Hammond's instrument sounds like it's practically crying during the chorus, at which time the bass is just mock-ponderous enough to give the song the final emotional kick it needs. The only thing keeping it down from being that mysterious quality of a Strokes song where they sound like they give a shit about their music is perhaps the vocal delivery, but that's always been a problem (or they way they want it, depending on how you want to see it).

And "Trying Your Luck?" Bueller? Anyone?

Slim Pickens (Slim Pickens), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 03:36 (twenty-one years ago)

But wouldn't Kraftwerk done right just be y'know Kraftwerk?

ananananananaandrewthames, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 03:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, "Someday" is the only Strokes song that I really really like.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 03:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Slim Pickens is OTM re: "Last Nite" even though I still think it's a great song.

"Someday" is my third favorite Strokes song (12:51 being #2).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't believe harder better stronger faster is so low.
I want that implanted in my skull chip when I destroy the alien armada.
I can't believe I didn't vote.
I feel like Florida.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought it was universally accepted Someday was the best Strokes track.

minolta (minolta), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 06:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I like 'Someday' and 'Last Nite' more than 'Hard To Explain' (which I do like).

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 06:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I think if the separate ilm contingents got together and did their own genre-group lists we'd get more interesting stuff.

Like the reason lots of people are going "oh fuck, look at all the boring indie" is cos they never bother reading all the threads about boring indie (I count myself in this group).

For example, if you were to poll ilm dance and hip hop lovers on best dance and hip hop of the 00s I reckon you'd get a really interesting list. And vitalic would also place higher than 35...

Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 07:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure how the system works here (it seems a select few nominate and then the rest of the board can vote?) but you're right, it would be more interesting to get each genre's favorite picks. Having said that, I downloaded most of these tracks from the guy who was hosting them and I'm having a great time listening to all the ones I'd never bothered to check out or simply never heard of.

Slim Pickens (Slim Pickens), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Vitalic at 35 is pretty good considering the lack of other tracks like it nominated and voted for.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:02 (twenty-one years ago)

anybody could've nominated, Slim Pickens. Most of them did. ILM has less than 200 active, frequent posters (not readers) tho I think. So we did very well considering (blogging on FT probably helped to attract a few extra participants, much needed in my view).

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:03 (twenty-one years ago)

If I was going to submit comments for the Phoenix track, I'd say something about how it's how indie kids think a house tune should sound, and how I assume ravers think and indie pop tune should sound. But I'm not, so I won't.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Dinnae be defensive steve, I think everybody is loving this really.

Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:10 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 29

Points: 442
No. of votes: 23
No. of #1 votes: 3

Artist: THE STREETS
Title: WEAK BECOME HEROES
Label: 679
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/weakbecomeheroes.jpg

Comments: "Weak Become Heroes" as a title is a masterpiece of irony on the level of Chic. By 2002 the economy was totally in the shitter. The superclub rave reich had to know they were only biding their time before death came to them as well. Maybe they realized they deserved death. The rave dream that Skinner thanks Paul Oakenfold and Danny Rampling for at the end of "WBH" had long since been sucked up by the Cool Britannia industry. Far from being "heroes," the "weak" were now just grist: entrance queue, drugs, merch, shitty mix CD's, starfucking godawful celeb DJ's in an almost exact reversal of what acid was supposed to have been all about. Or, at least that's what the accumulated mythology tells me, since I was 10 and American when it broke. But judging by the way America has gobbled up hip-hop over here in the last ten years or so, I can probably guess this view is pretty right on. Now Mike Skinner is not a dumb man by any stretch, so I assume he must have
caught this vibe in the air as well, but he * is * given to a bit more sentiment than is probably healthy. So what does he do? He kicks a gorgeous piano loop down the stairs like a slinky and pens an ode to those very same lost values, tempered by dejected mood that lets you know the real score (This is why all the remixes dropped the ball: they made it * happy *). Sometimes a feeling of failure is better than feeling nothing at all. And there's always tomorrow. Jess

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:18 (twenty-one years ago)

a little emo for that ass

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:29 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm surprised you don't like the remixes. the track never came across to me as totally sad but more wistful and generally content in it's reminiscence - the Royksopp and Beedle remixes really empthasising that if not expanding on it.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't like SKinner's little anti-CJB bit tho - dated and might as well be a speech extract from Human Traffic (tho that is a crap film I enjoy a lot)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:32 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i relistened to it after i wrote that and now i fear i might be giving him a little more credit than he deserves

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:33 (twenty-one years ago)

29?? Tchh.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:34 (twenty-one years ago)

does everyone agree that The Streets is, somewhat ironically, more an albums artist - the individual tracks being often very good but just not quite enough to want to put at the top of your lists?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I prefer 'Has It Come To This' to 'Weak Become Heroes' also

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:37 (twenty-one years ago)

frankly the idea of "dry your eyes" as a single, let alone a number one, is baffling and wrong to me.

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:39 (twenty-one years ago)

oh it makes sense in England, just about...other than the fact it's by him (with the ghost of Chris Martin running around the machine blubbing as usual)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:40 (twenty-one years ago)

it just seems like taking the climactic chunk out of a film and making it a BANG WOW tv special on fox or something

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:42 (twenty-one years ago)

"Dry Your Eyes":Beckham's penalty::"The Drugs Don't Work":Di and Dodi did die, surely?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I think if the separate ilm contingents got together and did their own genre-group lists we'd get more interesting stuff.

And then the top ten of each could go HEAD-TO-HEAD afterwards.

I've been watching too much Olympics. Ooh can we refer to the top three here as gold, slver and bronze please? And we can all feel gutted for whoever places fourth.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:43 (twenty-one years ago)

does everyone agree that The Streets is, somewhat ironically, more an albums artist - the individual tracks being often very good but just not quite enough to want to put at the top of your lists?

"Weak Become Heroes" aside his choice of singles has been utter ass. That might be why.

Let's stop talking about "Dry Your Eyes". I was all overcome with Streets-love after the WBH mention and now I've remembered that I hate Skinner at the moment.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:45 (twenty-one years ago)

'Weak Become Heroes' wasn't a single, was it?

Anyway - yes he's a great album artist but WBH stands alone too, for me. I don't know - maybe there are other tracks that deal with the same theme too, but I don't know any, and I can't imagine anyone doing it as perfectly as here.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

WBH was a single. I think it was his biggest hit before the new album as well.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Blimey - passed me by.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I still think 'It's Too Late' could've worked as a single. Reminding me again how I prefer OPM to AGDCFF.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:53 (twenty-one years ago)

"Weak Become Heroes" got my #1 vote. It's the only song I have ever known which makes me tear up every single time. Absolutely perfect encapsulation of my experiences between 1994 and 2001.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 28

Points: 445
No. of votes: 24
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: THE ROOTS (FEATURING CODY CHESTNUTT)
Title: THE SEED 2.0
Label: MCA
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/theseed.jpg

Comments: n/a (anybody?)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:51 (twenty-one years ago)

desmond dekker meets rappers uptown

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:55 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 27

Points: 469
No. of votes: 29
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: THE FLAMING LIPS
Title: FIGHT TEST
Label: Warner
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/fighttest.jpg

Comments: n/a (anybody?)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:07 (twenty-one years ago)

oh for fucks sake

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:08 (twenty-one years ago)

well i'm off to work, hold it down boys

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:08 (twenty-one years ago)

SHITE TEST MORE LIKE

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

"Fight Test", along with songs by the Red Hot Chili Peppers and The Coral, is always featured on the "most played" feature on those video jukeboxes you get in certain student pubs.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Ie, God help us if there's a war.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

FUCKING FUCKING FLAMING FUCKING LIPS FUCKING FIGHT FUCKING TEST FUCK!

Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i am losing the will to list

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:15 (twenty-one years ago)

steve gimme one more so i can leave un-depressed

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

(this fucking list is going to make me late)

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Stop throwing the baby out with the bathwater - I like 'Fight Test' (not enough to vote for it, though).

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Jess, be careful what you wish for

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish I could remember dave q's exact quote about babies and bathwater.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 26

Points: 494
No. of votes: 25
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: LIL JON & THE EASTSIDE BOYZ (FEATURING THE YING-YANG TWINZ)
Title: GET LOW
Label: Island
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/getlow.jpg

Comments: Get Low" is to Miami bass what the Black Flag cover is to "Louie, Louie." All the curves and funkiness have been stripped from a motor that's already been chopshopped down to the very basics of forward momentum. What remains is a hard, coal black nugget that was belched out the back of the Trans Europe Express. So, sure, it's evil, it's venal, it's misogynist, it's vile, it's hateful, it's crude, it's ugly, it's barely rap, and it's a one-trick. But WHAT a trick! The fiddle while Rome burns. Just don't complain in ten years when it's YOUR daughter to the slaughter, okay? Jess

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, OK:

"Why keep throwing out the bathwater, when the baby is just going to soil every bath you subsequently run for it?"

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:22 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, ILM is bathing in it's own shite

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh! that slightly redeemed F**** T***. but the Merengue mix is better!

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

'i don't like skinner's little anti-cjb bit tho - dated...'

dated? no. lest we forget 'the girl in the cafe' taps him on the shoulder, and we suddenly realise he's been reminiscing. its mainly been in the past tense and he's been reflecting on the era from 5 year previously so *while he's there* it occurs to him to mention the cjb also. he's signing off to the heroes first('...and all the people who gave us these times') and then the villains just for good measure ('and to the government i stick my middle finger up...').
seems fair enough for the first song ever to tell the good and bad sides of the rave/pills story in one go*


and on the subject of human traffic: ironically the 'remixed' human traffic dvd (don't get me started) thatjustin kerrigan had nothing to do with, removes his original anti-cjb/potted rave history opening credits sequence and replaces come together by primal scream at the end with...weak become heroes by the streets.

* alright, except 'sorted' by pulp .

piscesboy, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:39 (twenty-one years ago)

well the CJB thing seems to occur in the present tense, after he's thanked the usual suspects. but yeh i guess it deserves some mention in a song concerning the subject it does.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I never thought 'sorted' gave much of the good side.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

in the middle of the night, it feels so right

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)

But then tomorrow morning...
What if you never come down?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

ha ha, now let's sing 'mccarthur park'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose you're right, but it doesn't do much of a job of evoking anything positive, even if the lyrics are there.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

yeh the overall vibe is regret/misery, but that comes through on most Pulp, yet more than bearable due to the humour Cocker brings with it

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:53 (twenty-one years ago)

SHITE TEST MORE LIKE!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Better yet, SHITE TEST!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, I know its late but I was at lunch and I felt robbed of the opportunity to say that.

I mentioned Fight Test in the pub last night and we concluded it was THE UNEXPLODED BOMB of this list. And lo and behold here it is.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

SHITE FEST MORE LIKE IT

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:11 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost: "Sorted", for all its strengths, primarily deals with disappointment and alienation, coupled with a measure of teacherly finger-wagging.

"Weak Become Heroes" is tender and fond, and only regretful in a sweetly aching ah-me-the-passing-of-the-years kind of way. Ooh, I know: poignant. That's what I mean.

I recognise the reality in both, but WBH is by far the more moving of the two. (Unlike the massively overrated and desperately disappointing A Grand Don't Come For Free, but let's not.)

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 25

Points: 506
No. of votes: 20
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: RADIOHEAD
Title: PYRAMID SONG
Label: Parlophone
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/pyramidsong.jpg

Comments: I like Pyramid Song. I like it more on the album than on its sluggish lonesome, mind you, but I like the faltering dirginess of it (Q reckons its about SUICIDE but I dont: I think it's about ALEXANDER THE GREAT). Tom Ewing

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I still like it. I didn't vote for it though. "Beautiful" by Xtina is on the radio right now and it would segue nicely into that.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

You guys are all stupid fucks! "Fight Test" is fucking great! Best song of the decade so far!!

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:35 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.inkblotmagazine.com/rev-archive/Flaming_Lips_Yoshimi.htm

Mr. Snrub, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a bit of an off-putting review.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Pyramid song? Bag of $hite song more like.

Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Mr Snrub if only you had explained why I could've quoted you

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)

That is a tremendously offputting review.

When did they stop being a brilliant psychedelic rock band and decide to become avatars, spiritual guides, magical beings of infinite wisdom?

!!

Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)

PAIR OF SID'S BONGS MORE LIKE IT

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

can i just say that my asterisking of 'sorted' by pulp was only to pre-empt the pulp fans going off on one about sorted the same way everyone seems to whenever 'weak become...' gets mentioned.

i've never actually *liked* sorted that much, despite being present at it's debut perfrmnce (but then, weren't we all?) and loving that gig for all tyme. always preferred misshapes, and pta on that cd single!

piscesboy, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 24

Points: 507
No. of votes: 22
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: LE TIGRE
Title: DECEPTACON (DFA REMIX)
Label: Chicks On Speed Records
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/deceptacondfaremix.jpg

Comments: If you cannot dance to the DFA remix of Deceptacon you need to see a doctor because something is wrong with you. Mike Taylor

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

What if it's because you're tied up? Consider other emergency services please.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

is this thread getting too unwieldly or is it just me?

its fckng fantastic work so far mind. itd make a good book/cd combo.

piscesboy, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, "Fight Test" really was the first one for me to make me go WTF??? (I think I wasn't bothered by similar stuff further down the list, but this is the 20s now!)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

ha, im listening to Deceptacon right now! (and not dancing, though that coulld change)

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

is this thread getting too unwieldly or is it just me?

its fckng fantastic work so far...


-- piscesboy (piscesxx...), August 25th, 2004.

Agree with both points. How about starting new threads for the top twenty?

Not That Chuck, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

just change your settings so it only loads the last 100 or less answers

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:23 (twenty-one years ago)

A living roomful of people failed to dance after I mixed 'Deceptacon' into 'The Greatest Hit', but that's because all Manc students are hipsters in mild denial.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the original Deceptacon. I'd sooner dance to that actually.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

i actually dont know if ive heard the DFA one, but i think i might have voted for it. i like the original so much - whats most obviously different about the DFA?

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

It's played backwards and on cowbells.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

the remix is lounge disco - that mangled synth pad is brilliant

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 23

Points: 508
No. of votes: 35
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE
Title: CRY ME A RIVER
Label: Jive
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/crymeariver.jpg

Rainfall, Enigma monk-vox, lonesome keyboard farts, a thick swamp of
celebrity longing, backing singers pert like ballerinas, the stutter
of an angry heart, vocal fills that flutter before jabbing home, a
paparazzi film warping and bubbling, Timbaland gliding through the
song like a sad judge, the damage is done so I guess I'll be
leaving
. Emo under the flashbulbs. Tom Ewing

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:55 (twenty-one years ago)

o woah bjaxx remixxed 'like i luv u'?

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Enormously usefully "Cry Me A River" actually came on Radio 1 just after I got Stevems "comment please help" email which explains the somewhat disconnected write-up. Reportage, innit?

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

jb how could you not have known that??

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe i did and it was disappointing and i blocked it out??? who knows?

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

no it's pretty cool

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 22

Points: 524
No. of votes: 32
No. of #1 votes: 4

Artist: EMINEM
Title: STAN
Label: Universal
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/stan.jpg

The gimmick is the lyrics that tell a story in letter-writing format. The format lets Eminem gradually deliver the story of a crazed fan whose troubles get more urgent from verse-to-verse. Beneath the story line is straightforward but evocative production: the rolling bass line that never ceases, the Dido mashup, and the serial radio-style sound samples (thunder-striking, pencil-scratching, girl-screaming, tire-screeching, lake-gurgling) make the track worth listening to even after the storyline in revealed. It's a wonder that Stan was released as a single at all - the song lacks instant body moving gratification and forces listeners to actually concentrate on the lyrical content for 5:31 (an epic-length of time for radio standards). With Stan, Eminem escaped the trappings of his established Mohammed Ali posturing and delivered a truly original pop song. Graig Tamasi

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Steve, mail me if you need anything doing for tomorrow.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Hands up, who else voted "WBH" number one? I really didn't foresee it being so low.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

WBH?

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Weak Become Heroes, sorry

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

SIGUR ROS MORE LIKE

cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:14 (twenty-one years ago)

"Deceptacon" being so high is damn cool.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:20 (twenty-one years ago)

i voted for it on the original pick one thing but i didnt vote on the
top 10 picks thing. does that still count? anyway i voted for ashley b's remix.

ooh on the subject, i hope he gives the 'blinded by the lights' remix job over to mr beadle too. tough task but he's yr man for it.

piscesboy, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:37 (twenty-one years ago)

yes ! "deceptacon (dfa remix)" was my number one.
glad to see I'm not the only ILMer crazy about that remix

Sami (Sami), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I think "Fight Test" is pretty!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

That should be the comment on the song. Sadly, it's about as much as I could think to say about it (and I do like the song quite a bit).

Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

whenever I hear Fight Test I imagine it as an apologia for Iraq II. like some SoCal kid hearing it and enlisting, or GWB eating shrooms and putting it on loud repeat in the residential quarters.

comme personne (common_person), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

fight test is pro-war

a.r.b, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I got real high with the bassplayer from my old band and he took out FAUST to put in "FIGHT TEST" and he played the AIR DRUMS. So, worst song ever.

SONNY, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 18:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Still no sign of the Thong Song!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Although at #21 we must be out of the woods with regard to Get Free turning up in this list.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i am so worried about this all of a sudden.

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I've predicted the entire rest of the list, based on counting up the songs that HAVE to be in there. Although counting it up I reckon that either 21 Seconds or Rubicon has failed to make the list at all.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, 21 Seconds couldn't have placed higher than The Streets, could it?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Will you see it in the ILM Top 100? Oh no. Will you see it in the top 100? Oh no.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I look at what's left, I'm SURE that I've got all of the tracks down now. The only uncertainty is how much Radiohead there'll be.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 20:51 (twenty-one years ago)

And if I am correct then this is a fantastic list because there's not one track left I actively dislike and at least 10 that I love.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Some back notes:
Get Low got thrown back on the instant I saw it. It's the sort of song that if you hear mention of it you say Yeah, I Sure Am Tired of Get Low But Maybe If I Heard It One More Time...
And thanks to whoever on here turned me on to the Merengue Mix of same.
Twas one of you fellows if I remember correctly?

Actually, I'm noticing that you guys like to argue and debate the rock tracks into the ground, meanwhile Stan sneaks in ahead of Cry Me a River and everyone shrugs? Stan doesn't even really strike me as close to the most interesting thing Em did... even on that one album.

No Poppist argyments?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 26 August 2004 01:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Stan doesn't even really strike me as close to the most interesting thing Em did... even on that one album.

Substitute Stan -> Cry Me a River, and Em -> Justin.
IMO, this partially answers the question.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 26 August 2004 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Honestly, I just now got a copy of Justified; so I'm not in a position to talk it up or down too much.
God I love the New York Public Library. Where else can you get Gabriel Garcia Marquez, David Banner and Stan Brakhage in one trip for under a buck? Free, even.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 26 August 2004 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, sorta tired point, but

Rock Your Body>>Like I Love You>>>Senorita>>>>>>>>> Cry Me a River

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 26 August 2004 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Did any of the other singles get nominated? I nominated "Cry Me a River" btw

Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Thursday, 26 August 2004 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a crap memory for songs, so can't think of what is left to make it for sure ("work it" maybe? "lose yourself?") i think Tom's comment about party bloc polarization is very astute... I am looking forward to hearing the indie songs on here, since I don't know most of them. too bad grindin and nelly were so low - they're monuments of human achievement. thanks for putting all this together, stevem!

xpost - cry me a river rules all!! i think that video was the pinnacle of his hotness

dave k, Thursday, 26 August 2004 03:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i hope "yeah!" shows up pretty high

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, 26 August 2004 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I agree with Dr. Bill about Timberlake's singles! (At the very least, "Cry Me a River" is the worst of the four; I sometimes re-order the other three, but that order is probably what I'd say right now.)

jaymc, Thursday, 26 August 2004 04:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Was "without me" in there?

Jacob (Jacob), Thursday, 26 August 2004 04:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Dr. Bill you are bloody fucking insane, "Cry Me A River" destroys all those other songs easily.

djdee2005, Thursday, 26 August 2004 07:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Yawn.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 26 August 2004 07:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha Insania!

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 26 August 2004 08:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Yawn.

well you did say it was a tired point...i also prefer 'Cry Me A River' tho

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 09:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Apologies for the delay. But following a (uh oh) recount...


No. 21

Points: 550
No. of votes: 20
No. of #1 votes: 3

Artist: GIRLS ALOUD
Title: NO GOOD ADVICE
Label: Polydor
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/nogoodadvice.jpg

Listening to the 980 or so UK Number Ones, Girls Aloud jumped out with a grin the size of television, something actually new under the
artificial pop sun. "Sound Of The Underground"'s surf'n'bass was the
promise, "No Good Advice" is the delivery, the best evidence of
production house Xenomania's "best of everything" philosophy. It's a
three minute talent show, each hook hustling its way to the front,
showing off, taking a quick bow until at the end that fierce half-rap
brings the house down - nobody this decade has sounded
hungrier.Tom Ewing

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 09:22 (twenty-one years ago)

("Listening" above shd be "When I listened". Girls Aloud have not put themselves through this AFAIK.)

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 09:25 (twenty-one years ago)


No. 20

Points: 571
No. of votes: 25
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: RADIOHEAD
Title: THERE THERE
Label: Parlophone
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/therethere.jpg


No. 19

Points: 621
No. of votes: 25
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: RADIOHEAD
Title: EVERYTHING IN IT'S RIGHT PLACE
Label: Parlophone
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/everythinginitsrightplace.jpg

'There There' brings a substantial, satisfying and brisk guitar stomp back to proceedings after the understandable absence of this from the previous two albums. When Yorke croons 'just cos you feel it, doesn't mean it's there', despite the abject denial and stubbornness inherent in that message it still feels as light-hearted and even jolly as the band get, but obviously smothered in melancholy in what I find a typically sublime fashion from this lot. I blame the jangle, and the general dirgey qualities of the track that make it sound like a band evidently bursting with ideas musically at the point of Hail To The Thief's recording can make this sound like it was knocked out quickly and effortlessly as a live jam but so disciplined and controlled in a positive way as to remain awesome (see also 'Go To Sleep').

Conversely, the opening track from Kid A, while not really a radical departure in sound (though hindsight helps here) did suggest something different - soothing voices and glowing synths setting the scene but the minimalism allowing the listener to listen for whatever else they want. A sense of doubt somehow emerging halfway through despite the insistence of the title? If everything's in it's right place then what happens now? The track doesn't break down completely as if a robot (or human)'s purpose was fulfilled and it was now obsolete, but you still get the sense that all is not as well as the song suggests. Despite many of the critical reactions at the time, this was Radiohead, after all.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 09:46 (twenty-one years ago)

the voter bloc blows the curtain off their efforts all too well

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 August 2004 09:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely this must be the last of the Radiohead?

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 August 2004 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Nicola, Sarah, Cheryl, Nadine, Kimberley - on behalf of ILM, I apologise.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

i've never been able to make it even twenty minutes into 'vanilla sky' cuz as soon as "everything in its right place" pops up (very clunkily announcing 'this is cameron crowe's arty film') i die laffing and can't go any further cuz there's no way the movie's gonna actually get better.

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 August 2004 09:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I CAN'T BELIEVE RADIO-FUCKING-HEAD DENIED THE GIRLS A TOP 20 SPOT.

This is the clearest and most hurtful travesty of the list so far.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 26 August 2004 09:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I can believe it all too well.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 August 2004 09:54 (twenty-one years ago)

let's keep it moving kids!

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:23 (twenty-one years ago)

blount that movie gets a hell of a lot 'better' when 'Good Vibrations' comes in....

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha Idioteque hasn't made an appearance yet!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)

oh shut up!!!

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't even look at this list any more. Can we please hurry on?

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:48 (twenty-one years ago)

(Neither has Sound Of The Underground so everything's going to be alright)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i am waiting for more comments to come in so at least another hour before next entry i'm afraid

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)

It occurs to me that what with the two main voting blocs of indie kids and popists/dance listeners, House Of Jealous Lovers would have done very well indeed if only one of us had bothered to nominate it.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:53 (twenty-one years ago)

b-but i have to go to work!

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I will write comments on anything.

Yes even that.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

You comments-ho, you.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:55 (twenty-one years ago)

He ain't the only one...

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

GIVE US A SINGLE, MY LOVELY

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 18

Points: 631
No. of votes: 27
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: THE AVALANCHES
Title: SINCE I LEFT YOU
Label: XL
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/sinceileftyou.jpg

Barima writin' summat now...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Who are Girls Aloud?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:47 (twenty-one years ago)

more bargain basement british pop

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

re 'Since I Left You'

This is how you put everything in its right place. The Avalanches proved that making a piece of music that feels like several sensations at once (love, loss, hope, new experiences, independence, LIFE etc) *should* have several sounds at once as well, leaving it totally up to you where to find the feelings. They're not the first to make a pitched up vocal sound perfectly expressive rather than cheesy, but in doing so, they uncovered one of the best hooks of the millennium, and put disco, albeit of a downtempo magic rainbow sort, back in the top 20. Conversely, the equally yet slightly different kind of wonderful that is the Cornelius remix is actually one of his most stripped down efforts, but that's his own brand of magic, one the Avs have vowed to perfect someday. I feel for this song more than I can say, but I urge you to watch the video every so often if you need a visual as to how this turns a grey day into a brighter one. Barima

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

he's right, the video is just beautiful

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeh but we all know in real life pretty blonde dancers don't run off with chunky miners

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:06 (twenty-one years ago)

FUCKING YES!

I completely didn't expect that to chart, considering the poor showing of Frontier Psychiatrist.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

This now redeems the sins of everyone who voted for Shite Fest. Maybe.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 17

Points: 641
No. of votes: 37
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: JAY-Z
Title: 99 PROBLEMS
Label: Def Jam
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/99problems.jpg

I have no idea why people diss this song so much. Actually I have a very good idea (especially if it places as high as I think it will): even more than Kanye, this is Jay's (unconscious?) attempt to reach People Who Don't Listen to Rap (Anymore.) The video finally allowed rap videos to be as artlessly arty as Bjork and Johnny Cash clips. The Def Jam throwback beat connects with people for whom g-funk was a bridge too far. "I, too, miss rap beats that sound like rock beats. Where have all the breakbeats gone?" The problem is that (rightly or wrongly) all this carping is based in the theoretical, in audience and marketing and the unknowable forces of who will connect with what, and the naysayer would have a much easier time if this wasn't a world-crushing, monstertruckdriven bastard of a TUNE. Those beats connect like a bodyslam across the shittiest of radio or tv speakers. Jay's performance is flawless, unless you're one of those chumps for whom a "good rap verse" means some generic southern motherfucker chewing over a sliver of shopworn gangsta with all the verve of an audit. It's hardly his best single of the decade ("Big Pimpin" like hello), but it's a helluva way for someone to go out on (ha ha yeah right, right?). Jess

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:08 (twenty-one years ago)

HURRAH!

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:09 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 16

Points: 660
No. of votes: 36
No. of #1 votes: 0 (!)

Artist: MISSY ELLIOTT
Title: WORK IT
Label: Elektra
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/workit.jpg

For whatever it's worth, "Work It" was the last time I felt like ILM was truly united on anything. The thread where we all "discover" it is just so packed with unfettered, unexpected, totally BOWLED OVER joy that it has to represent some kind of peak. The lion lay down with the lamb in Elysian Fields of cowbell and g-funk squeals and backwards vocals and elephant noises and FREMME NEPPA VENETTE. It was also the moment where Missy mounted, if not jumped, the shark. It was her last truly great video, the last where you felt like it wasn't being weird in order to impress the outside world that Missy Elliot Is One Weird Bitch, but because, you know, she's pretty screwed up and utterly hilarious. Also for whatever it's worth, I haven't had the urge to listen to it since; I was sick of it before the year was out. But I know about six years from now I'll be sitting in a bar having not heard it in ages and it will come on the jukebox and I'll admit then what I know now in the back of my mind: this is one of the best pop songs ever made. Jess

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

CURSE OF HARVELL

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Three good tracks in a row! CAN IT LAST?

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

it is low and not getting any #1 votes is something of a surprise, but we all know why really I guess...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Ricardo, my streak is five, it's even better for me! ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Jess' musings on ILM's lost unity brought a tear to my gruff old eye.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Y'know, after unapologetically voting for "Pyramid Song" I almost feel like an indie enabler know.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:20 (twenty-one years ago)

know = now

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 15

Points: 751
No. of votes: 52 (!!!!)
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: BRITNEY SPEARS
Title: TOXIC
Label: Jive
Year: 2004

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/toxic.jpg

So many people want Britney to weaken, to fail, to just GO AWAY, or at least they want her records to be as bad as they say they are. Britney keeps teasing them by almost crashing, releasing genuinely terrible records ("Not A Girl"!!), careening publically from one crassness to another. And then she puts out something like "Toxic" and the show keeps rolling on. Modern pop is about design and engineering, and "Toxic" is a Rolls-Royce - so what if it's being driven by a brat? Just gawp at its streamlines and listen to it purr. Tom Ewing

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Despite it's relatively low position, only two tracks got more votes than 'Toxic'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I am actually sort of surprised you like There There, Ned.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 14

Points: 754
No. of votes: 39
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: BEYONCE (FEATURING JAY-Z)
Title: CRAZY IN LOVE
Label: Columbia
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/crazyinlove.jpg

I was in the pub on Tuesday night talking about DJing, and Rick was imploring me not to play "Crazy In Love". Could it be true? Could we have reached a point when people are tired of this song? Well, maybe, but what a reign it had. There was a point when pretty much any crowd, at any event, would go guaranteed mental when those horns showed up, and no wonder - this song is a forever classic because it nails it, that "fucking YES" moment where you can't believe how happy you are. You have to move, run, punch the air, jump, dance, anything. And because the song, peak after peak after peak, gets it so right it can bring that feeling too. I was walking down Southampton Row after buying the single and all that happened was the lights changing just when the horns came in just after Jay-Z's bit and it was enough, I felt like a king. You don't have to be in love, you don't have to be beautiful, you don't have to dance well, for three minutes you can become this song and the world is yours to conquer. Pop music, eh? Tom Ewing

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Did the list sort of react violently against itself? Since that horrible travesty upthread it's been quality all the way.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe. But the last three were absolute shoo-ins for the top 20. And, yes, I really am a bit tired of Crazy In Love.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, those two songs, especially Beyonce, are much lower than I thought they might be.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:32 (twenty-one years ago)

CURSE OF EWING

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)

If Romeo doesn't make the Top 10 I am going to cry.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)

I havent been asked to comment on it Matt so there is still hope!!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

As an interlude, may I suggest a quick game of SPOT THE ODD ONE OUT. I'll start...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

this song is a forever classic because it nails it, that "fucking YES" moment where you can't believe how happy you are. You have to move, run, punch the air, jump, dance, anything. And because the song, peak after peak after peak, gets it so right it can bring that feeling too. I was walking down Southampton Row after buying the single and all that happened was the lights changing just when the horns came in just after Jay-Z's bit and it was enough, I felt like a king. You don't have to be in love, you don't have to be beautiful, you don't have to dance well, for three minutes you can become this song and the world is yours to conquer. Pop music, eh?

This is really fucking good Tom!

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Romeo isn't even my favourite record of the decade but I have placed such an inordinate amount of importance upon its position in this list that I may not recover from the blow.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I've found my copy of the Stars single. It was, indeed, in an actual proper envelope.

Which it would appear I decided to seal via licking the adhesive bit.

Bugger.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, it must be in the list somewhere, and we've only got three non-top ten tracks left.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 13

Points: 768
No. of votes: 26
No. of #1 votes: 3

Artist: THE NEW PORNOGRAPHERS
Title: LETTER FROM AN OCCUPANT
Label: Matador
Year: 2002

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I played this after dumping my first girlfriend - I felt worse. Yet better. Even in a manufactured era the flame of classic pop songwriting burns strong. Neko Case blends goofiness and raucousness, riddling lyrics with an emotional kick we can all recognise ("I cried five rivers on the way here, which one will you skate away on?"). The Pornographers deliver a jump-in-the-air chorus with no studio gloss or artistic compromise to get in the way. For once an artists most famous song is also their best - and in a smarter world it would have been Top 10. It's THIS song that's shaking me! P.S. I put it on a mixtape for her afterwards, she sent it back though. Barry Sheavils

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Barry otm, it's alright really

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Barry Sheavils is a GOLDEN GOD!

It's a good job Jess isn't here to see this.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, the Barryforce triumphs!

I am slightly concerned that I haven't knowingly heard this track. Does this mean I am losing touch with the kids?

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I am quietly pleased, but you probably already guessed that.

mr T: Not really, no.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd never heard of it til nominations either.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

In a manufactured era! The flame! Burns! Strong!

Flyboy (Flyboy), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Look out Chingford Tor Ascender, there's a new sheriff of satire in town!

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

that write-up makes me feel a bit queasy

pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Well, magic my eye! I've finally gotten the Avs sleeve. No one ever talks about the b-side, 'Everyday', and you all fuckin' should.

Romeo was the only Jaxx song I voted. Voted 'Toxic', and honestly hoped it'd beat 'Hey ya!' and Beyonce in the end (tho' I still have more time for B than Andy 2999). I did vote GA as well, but it went from my fave single of last year (alongside 'Gossip Folks', one of my fave Missy vids, btw) to just being one of the best ('NGA'>'SOTU'>'The Show', for now). 'Get Ur Freak On', 'Hey Ya' or 'Milkshake' for no. 1?

Oh, and Steve, my hacking didn't last too long, which was how I missed that deadline.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

B-ma - did you get my email? I sent it to yer gmail, I dunno if you check that...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:00 (twenty-one years ago)

deep breath...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 12

Points: 798
No. of votes: 36
No. of #1 votes: 4

Artist: BASEMENT JAXX
Title: ROMEO
Label: XL
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/romeo.jpg

Dancing, as most people know from Gloria Gaynor to Midge Ure to the effin' Fraggles know, is best done after being jilted, spurned, heartbroken or fucked over in some other way you may care to imagine. Dancing doesn't solve problems per se but it helps you to forget about them for at least a little while or put them into a more balanced perspective - and hey if you feel in the mood to dance then things can't be all that bad. This song though. This song pretty much puts you in that mood whether you're willing or not. Unlike other floor-fillers like 'Crazy In Love' and 'Toxic' it's not about infatuation and lust, it's about the fact that those feelings have gone and the strange effect that dance i.e. happy music can have in that situation as you look for comfort whilst being unable to stop thinking about the good time now they're fading further and further into the past. Only the lyrics profess misery though. Ratcliffe and Buxton choose to deploy Kele Le Roc's sweet forlorn vocals over a max-pumped bouncy castle of summery house, because they know even if she doesn't that life's too short for pain to last too long. And that's without even going into the intricacies and nuances of this track - relatively obedient compared to the material on Kish Kash with regards to littering every bar with spangly fx...but the 'wooooaah-ey-oh' is just perfect and shows the duo know how to write a great pop song as well as mash up the tear-stained dancefloor.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

is there any way the top 10 can be better than 11-20??? i am all anticipatory!

dave k, Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:03 (twenty-one years ago)

There is no god.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

There is a God. And He has a wonky eye.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Please Tom I'm very sensitive about that.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard He has a gammy leg - that's why He moves in mysterious ways

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

it's a bloody good job I'm an atheist

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I am actually sort of surprised you like There There, Ned.

Huh, wonder how I gave the perception otherwise. It's really quite something live, I noticed.

Basement over Brit and Beyonce = hey, I'm happy still!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned otm.

B-ma - did you get my email? I sent it to yer gmail, I dunno if you check that...

Just checked it and replied.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 11

Points: 809
No. of votes: 31
No. of #1 votes: 4

Artist: RADIOHEAD
Title: IDIOTEQUE
Label: Parlophone
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/idioteque.jpg

I feel like I'm up against the wall here, having to defend everything by these WHINY FUCKTARDS. 'Idioteque' might just be the easiest to adjudicate though. Why? Because this is PARTY TIME for the boys! The 'Whoomp (There It Is)' of the fraught teenage wreck! Crushed electro beats march right into their ludicrously messy bedrooms and kick their arses into some kind of shape long after the parents just gave up trying. The track flows and leaks into crannies of your mind you wouldn't expect a Radiohead song to. Of course it never graced any sane dancefloor (I played it out recently though, with a bit of Daniel Bedingfield on top, OBVIOUSLY...) but without Yorke's passionate display it's Warp-lite ethos still kicks like a petulant goat. WITH them it's the same goat but now also eating your relatives. Bastard! But what an image...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

sorry, sensible comments on 'Idioteque' most welcome...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:59 (twenty-one years ago)

hearing it in a packed record store (that grew more packed as word spread - "they got the new radiohead, and they're playing it over and over")(i'd like to see the geodemographics of ilx votes for the head - i'm suspecting this moment has decidedly passed in america)(in athens it has anyway) and thinking 'o wow this new one's gonna be alot better than i thought' and anticipating the 'bah they ripoff *insert idm touchstone here*' and thinking 'yeah, but it rocks more, pops more'. easily the track from the album i heard most at the time, i assumed it was called 'optimistic' since i'd read that was the radio hit, but no it turned out 'optimistic' was the one that sounded like radiohead.

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

The neurotic breakdown of s

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

"It is an incontestable fact that Thom Yorke's adenoids are bigger than his balls." -- Michael Daddino

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Did this track create the IDM/indie alliance or was it already there?

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it crystallized it. And I have to say I was enjoyably surprised when a slew of DJs I knew down here in OC who weren't IDM freaks by any stretch of the imagination started spinning it regularly.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard a version that basically gave it a big housey kick drum underneath and a bit more bass once, it was great.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

already there i think - tortoise and mogwai remixes, general tieins to postrock, keyword: "intelligent", lots of label lapover (stateside at least), plus alot of the stuff sounds more rock than pop contextually (erm). truth be told i'm sure pfork has played a role too. but yeah, definite watershed.

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd say it was always there. The Warp Artificial Intelligence series (which arguably kicked off the whole IDM thing) was v.popular with the indie kids from day one.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Though there might be a US/UK difference here, and almost certainly a generational one.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think the link was there to the same extent in the UK though, especially when you consider what passed for indie here between 1995-2000. Maybe trip-hop was the missing link and Kid A lept right over that.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I think what's interesting about "Idioteque" on this front is that for all that the sounds may be IDM...it's got a straightforward, or straightforward-enough, beat. Which is part of the reason why it's better than it might otherwise have been.

(Also, like nearly everything they do, what is really good in studio is absolutely ridiculously great live.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, I don't know, Matt. Most of the indie kids I knew pre-93 ended up being huge IDM fans. Mind you, they ALL hated britpop, so might not be that representative.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I am eagerly awaiting Ignition (Remix)'s high placement.

PS fuck radiohead.

PPS I like Radiohead ok

PPPS but seriously fuck radiohead.

djdee2005, Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

This is where I confess I'm looking forward to any placement by "Ignition," since that way it will end up on the mp3 disc and I'll finally hear the damn thing!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Judging by a lot of my friends in college (I graduated several months before Kid A came out), indie and IDM have always been close bedfellows. My sophomore-year roommate's two favorite artists were Fugazi and Aphex Twin!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Everyone OTM -- "Idioteque" may have crystallized the IDM/indie alliance, but only for the people who hadn't bothered to listen to everything mentioned by cinniblount and Ricardo ... furthermore :
Macro Dub Infection. Autechre remixes of Saint Etienne, Tortoise, Stereolab, Scorn, and others. Sub Rosa! Seefeel's entire career!!! Even Blur's "13", geez.
This is why Radiohead don't mean shit to me.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Now Blur is pushing it too far. ;-)

It's interesting, Barry, that you mention all that other stuff (which I happily adore aside from Tortoise, who I don't) -- because knowing it all as I do, I *still* like what Radiohead does very much indeed. Crystallizing, hotwiring, whatever -- somehow the connection works for me.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

This means that 7 of the tracks I voted for will be in the Top 10. Truly I am Consensus Man. I am not entirely sure that this is a good thing.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah that 'yorkie was a hero to most but he never meant shit to me' line reminds me of when people said anyone who's heard joy division could never be bothered to listen to the cure. nonsense.

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG you're right Blount! Anyone want a copy of Join the Dots?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

anyone who's heard joy division could never be bothered to listen to the cure
Except that the Cure did new things -- stuff that JD and others didn't do. OTOH, Radiohead just copied the same stuff that had been done better by all the artists we've mentioned, and it got hyped like it was the invention of the wheel.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Except that the Cure did new things -- stuff that JD and others didn't do.

It should be noted that it was a little hard for JD to do anything new after a certain point.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahaha!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

touche

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Barry I disagree (and a half-dozen tracks aside - Idioteque not one of them - I'm a radiohead hata) - the form may have been similar but the content (worldview/cultural outlook/angst/you name it) R'head injected was very different. They didn't do anything different sonically but they made it a lot less abstract.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:59 (twenty-one years ago)

They also occassionally wrote what might be generously called "songs".

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom is quite right here (x-post as is Alex), and it's what I was sort of stumbling at with my beat comment. The *focus* of "Idioteque" is much different from what many rightly or wrongly considered to be IDM as such, and the sheer variety/abstraction of beats and time-changes and the like which thrilled some left others cold. Obvious points, but still.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:02 (twenty-one years ago)

hey what idm knockoffs got number one on the charts before kid a? and plz point me at some textbook 'verse chorus verse' songs with idm that could go number one (even if just in the proverbial 'in a better world blah blah blah')

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Annie - "Chewing Gum"

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

or for US readers

Clipse - "Grindin"

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

oops before Kid A, oh well then.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha I was gonna say, didn't that come out way after?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

A lot of IDM seems to have been written with the mindset of "oooh look at what neat sounds I can make with technology!" _Kid A_ was written with the mindset of "ooh look at what neat songs I can make with technology!" and as a result has a different impact on the people who dismissed/ignored IDM.

Or, what Tom, Alex and Ned said. (xpost-a-go-go)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Postmodern musical history! White Stripes go number one before Bill Haley!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:07 (twenty-one years ago)

A lot of IDM seems to have been written with the mindset of "oooh look at what neat sounds I can make with technology!"

Quite. Whereas someone like Aphex says "Ah, this is great, I can do whatever the hell I want." And that is a distinction, he seems less interested in 'neat sounds' as he is interested in distinct results.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

They also occassionally wrote what might be generously called "songs".
I think "Amnesiac" was far more successful at that than the relative dreariness of "Kid A" ...

And come on Blount, you're not really trying to make a "It sold well, therefore it HAS to be good", are you?

(lotsa xposts)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

i've never gotten the whole 'if you really like this sound then you can't possibly like this other really really similar sound cuz then that'd be like fucking yr girlfriend AND her twin sister that was born three minutes later (like there's something wrong with that!)' mindset.

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Was the twin sister a thalidomide baby?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

no i'm making the 'show me some idm this pop pre-kid a if it was such old hat plz'

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

ned: you wish

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Who do you think I am, H. Korine?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I also like how in the wake of Kid A there were all these people who were like, "Bah, they're just ripping off Autechre," even though these people HAD NEVER EVEN HEARD AUTECHRE.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

'show me some idm this pop pre-kid a if it was such old hat plz'

Devil's advocate, but isn't there an ex post facto argument to be made for Timbaland here?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

no i'm making the 'show me some idm this pop pre-kid a if it was such old hat plz'

This is sort of what it comes down to. Radiohead might not have invented IDM but they did come up with the first totally seamless IDM pop song, before a whole generation of indie kids started mixing the two.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha wait Barry Amnesiac came out AFTER! You want everyone to go back and forget that they liked Kid A because a later album did the same thing slightly better?!?!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

And wait what happened to liking the "original thing" that you are so hellbent on praising upthread?!?!

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing that annoys me about the reaction to Kid A (all those moany Wire readers when they were on the cover!) is what is wrong with working in an id(io)m? Which is all they did really, switch from one idiom (indie rock) to another (via prog ;) ). Is that such a crime?

Does every single record have to be totally original? Are we only allowed to listen to Derek Bailey now?

(ps For the purposes of my vote, I am a Radio-hata)

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Bjork was doing some IDM/indie crossover that kids dig pre-Kid A, but Homogenic didn't unite the masses in a "let's all buy it on Tuesday and make it #1" way.

Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Also it was Bjork who was always sort of an electronic dance diva anyway (and she was never hailed as being the last great rock band--as Radiohead were by 2001.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha wait Barry Amnesiac came out AFTER!
I know that, I'm just saying that "Amnesiac" accomplished what they were trying to do better than "Kid A" did (IMO, of course).

And I'm *not* saying that if you like one thing then you couldn't/shouldn't like another similar thing that came out three months later. But if you'd already been hearing lots and lots of similar things for years before then your reaction might be "bah, I've heard this many times before, and it was a lot better each time".

As for the "pop"/IDM moments -- Stereolab/MoM get-togethers, Morr Music (Radiohead, by their own admission, were partially ripping off Lali Puna), Seefeel's "Come to Find Me", etc. There were just fewer people listening then.

(xpost, good point Mike, I forgot about Homogenic (Bjork + Mark Bell))

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:34 (twenty-one years ago)

As for the "pop"/IDM moments -- Stereolab/MoM get-togethers, Morr Music (Radiohead, by their own admission, were partially ripping off Lali Puna), Seefeel's "Come to Find Me", etc. There were just fewer people listening then.

I think we're getting into the question of what 'pop' is again here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Ministry should have gone to #1 back in 1986 with "Over The Shoulder".

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

There are I think enormous numbers of excellent and credible reasons to not like Kid A but I've never 'bought' selling out IDM as one of them. (not that this is exactly what you're saying Barry).

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

So would saying that 'The Model' got ot #1 be missing the point a bit?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i think the "in a smarter world it would have been Top 10" line in the new pornos review confirm's my "beloved indie band writes song with catchy hook!!" suspicions in "in a perfect world, this song would be at the top of the charts".

i heard "idioteque" for the first time in ages, dropped into some hipster's set of electroclash and 80s nostalgia, and it sounded pretty great! not as good as the sound that comes out of missy elliott's left nostril when she sneezes, but...

"since i left you" has a very pretty cover. the avalanches should have kept their packaging aesthetic for their website, inside of that shitty fanzine/cutnpaste thing they have going. i quite desperately want something new from them too.

m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Since there's too much Radiohead talk...

"Since I Left You" is ILM's second-most overrated song behind "Ignition (Remix)".

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

i like what tom said ages ago comparing releasing SILY as a single to isolating the pineapple from the salad, but (as true as i feel that is) i've listened to and loved "since i left you" (the lp) so many times that it's impossible for me to divorce the song from its context. besides, i don't think tom ever really "got" this place's love for the avalanches - am i right?

m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i say "got" when i mean "shared".

m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

"Toxic" is more overrated than "Since I Left You".

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Since I Left You was my favourite song in the whole world, this morning. I don't know what I was doing wrong.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Barry makes a very valid point.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Toxic was my favourite song in the whole world, last week. I don't know what I was doing wrong then, either.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought I liked 'Since I Left You' far too much to do a shitty write-up about it...

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 26 August 2004 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"Since I Left You" was my #2 and "Letter From An Occupant" was in my top 5 so I'm liking the list, but no way should that boring Jay-Z song be up so high - he has *way* better tracks from the last five years!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm amazed that people can be so surprised and offended by the list placings when the whole voting/nominating system was (no offense, steve) designed in such a way that people can barely vote for what they really like anyway.

Al (sitcom), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

That's true, Al, but Steve elcted to do the whole thing on his own, so was this overdone valour or needless sado-masochism? Also, a number of people have come out as non-voters, which hardly helps in its way.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Look, it's a fine list. The design wasn't perfect but it was necessary to form some sort of consensus. Of course not everyone is going to be 100% pleased with the final list, but that's the way lists are, of course. And I'm sure everyone's gonna have something they voted for in the top 20, probably the top ten. And despite the Radiohead, it's still definitely and ILM list--you think a pitchfork list would have Girls Aloud, the Avalanches, two Phoenix and (presumably) three Daft Punk tunes in the top 40? Fucking unlikely. So stop everyone acting like this list was a waste of time.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

it's hilarious because people seem to be popping off not because there's so much indie but because there's any indie

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:45 (twenty-one years ago)

RADIOHEAD OVER "ROMEO" IN THIN THREAD SNAPPING SHOCKER?!>?!~
'123;m,123'[eke4ju2rw9-fr0kiki0-u9j=0

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

it's hilarious because people seem to be popping off not because there's so much indie but because there's any indie

I do believe you have hit the nail on the head.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:47 (twenty-one years ago)

it's hilarious because people seem to be popping off not because there's so much indie but because there's any indie

yeah, that sounds about right. Especially with the albums--people were like OH MY FUCKING GOD WILCO AT #15?!?!? when, realistically, they should've been like OH THANK FUCKING GOD WILCO WASN'T IN THE TOP FIVE--just because it's ILM doesn't mean all forms of critical consensus go out the window.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

ned when did you become such a shill for the other team?

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

he only speaks the truth as always

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i almost posted something mean

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Basement Jaxx singles that are better than "Romeo":

Jump N Shout
Jus 1 Kiss
Rendez-Vu
Plug It In
Fly Life
Gett Me Off

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Only three of those are from this decade.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

The 'other team' mostly supports stuff I wouldn't have in the house. Grandaddy and the Silver Jews, please, Pitchfork is welcome to them.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks for refraining xp

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Only three of those are from this decade.

Not quite my point.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Grandaddy...I have one of their LPs, I keep it because it was a birthday present

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i will never get over how aesthetically wrong ned and dan are

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

except for dan's ardkore thing. and mbv are like, okay, i guess.

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:59 (twenty-one years ago)

";-)"

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.rajuabju.com/literature/images/the_mi1.jpg

SMOOCHES (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/CMSIcons/emoticons/basic2/winkgrin.gif

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

(I almost used this one instead but it was really freaking me out.)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

"you are all buck turk inkarkes"?

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

THAT MAN IS MADE OF STYROFOAM

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Means we can't set him on fire, right?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

anyway if it makes anyone feel better I didn't vote for any Radiohead

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

i actually would probably vote for kid a if i had the chance again

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:09 (twenty-one years ago)

radiohead as a singles band is just for freaks tho

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

one of us
one of us
one of us

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

RADIOHEAD OVER "ROMEO" IN THIN THREAD SNAPPING SHOCKER?!>?!~
'123;m,123'[eke4ju2rw9-fr0kiki0-u9j=0

Someone help jess he's becoming IDM!

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

runtimeerrorQ

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Autejess

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:18 (twenty-one years ago)

jesspusher!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

COME - TO HARV3LL! COME COME TO HARV3LL!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

let me fuck you with my red hot cock, dan

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Kid 60jess

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

"Ned Raggett Can Kiss My Screamo-Punk Crunkboy Ass"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

The design wasn't perfect but it was necessary to form some sort of consensus.
Dr. Bill OTM -- I think it was Chuck who commented on one of these thread about P&J lists being more varied. Had we all voted for our personal top 15, this list just as varied. At the expense of a weaker consensus, of course.

Other "cons" -- the "randomness" of the nominations. It's been mentioned that a lot of people would have voted for stuff like "Lose Yourself" or "Seven Nation Army" had anyone gotten around to nominating them. Stevem did propose adding some of these glaring omissions (or giving certain ILM'ers a second nomination) on the nominations thread -- this is definitely something to reconsider the next time we make a list (and to figure out a way to address it fairly, if possible).

(xpost, I see this thread has switched to a much different subject)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:30 (twenty-one years ago)

(It's okay, I think we're done with that now, we can go back to the real thread)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I would almost like to see a second poll in which nothing that was included in this poll would be included in the second, but I'm not sure anyone would want to put in the work

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

You are a glutton for someone else's punishment.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

I would almost be willing to assume that responsibility

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

You're just doing this so you can make the midget do more work, aren't you?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

anything to shut him up

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Another thing this poll proves: That "singles" lists are way more interesting and fun than "tracks" lists (where people mainly seem to vote for their favorite tracks off their favorite albums, which makes the list pretty redundant.) I'd be curious for somebody to tally up how many of the top 100 tracks appear on one of the top 100 albums...

chuck, Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm, that's an interesting point. Supposedly mp3s meant the death of the album, but maybe that's not the case in terms of a basic touchstone.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:56 (twenty-one years ago)

What I would have done if I was Stevem to ensure some sort of consensus is to change the list from Top 100 Tracks to Top 100 Singles. It would have made monitoring the list a bitch (what constitutes a single is always a bitch to determine) but it would've cut down the pool of tracks to pick from by 500% or so. And plus, I bet at least 35 of the top 40 were singles anyway.

Not that I'm faulting Stevem's choice--I think it was a very creative way to go about making the list--but just that that might be the way I'd do it if I end up making the 90s poll.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, dammit. Chuck beat me to it.

Still, point remains.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Gear's couch should organize the second poll.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 26 August 2004 21:13 (twenty-one years ago)

But we hate indie, don't you think the couch has been through enough already?

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 26 August 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I will do teh poll!

Couch! (Gear!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 21:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Only 5 of the 15 tracks I voted for came from albums I voted for. Usually because I don't even own the album concerned, even where there was one. mp3s have totally changed things for me.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 26 August 2004 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I didnt vote for anything that wasnt a single. If the singles-selection process is working well you shouldn't need to.

Stevem's conception and execution of this has been excellent. It's turned it from a poll into a league and considerably upped the interest (I suspect).

Ned's point re. indie upthread: we gave them an inch and they took a mile.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 26 August 2004 23:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i blame myself.

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Grandaddy...I have one of their LPs, I keep it because it was a birthday present

One guess as to who it was from.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 26 August 2004 23:53 (twenty-one years ago)

= x

Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 26 August 2004 23:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Bring IT ON, g'dammit!

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 August 2004 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

okay but if I do a second poll I need stevem to email me or post the complete list of nominated songs and albums so I can eliminate them all!

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 27 August 2004 02:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Christ, you were serious?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:04 (twenty-one years ago)

=(

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, uh...

Christ, you were serious?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:31 (twenty-one years ago)

maybe not.......

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 27 August 2004 05:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I downloaded "Letter From an Occupant" this morning. I believed I didn't know the song, but I assumed that this was one of those cases when I thought I didn't know something, but when I heard it, I would recognize it instantly. Surely, this has happened to everybody.

So I listened to it tonight, and realized that a) I had never heard this song before (how? And I am Canadian! How could this be?) b) this song is BRILLIANT, I had to immediately play it a second time. I feel like such a corny indie FUXOR for liking this, but I can't help it. I definitely would have voted for this.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 06:21 (twenty-one years ago)

It's really annoying.

*has a headache now*

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 27 August 2004 06:40 (twenty-one years ago)

poor mel probably hasn't heard anything that exhuberant in a long long time

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 06:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Or that repetitive and trebly.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 27 August 2004 06:48 (twenty-one years ago)

cmon mel, you've listened to thom yorke's lyrics = you've definitely listened to something that repetitive recently

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 06:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Seriously, I thought I got a fake MP3 where they loop the same 10 seconds over and over.

I'm with Ned on the issue of lyrics.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 27 August 2004 06:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i should hope so!

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 06:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Why are you being like that?

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 27 August 2004 06:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I really liked "Knives out" (I think), first Rhead song that didn't bug me in YEARS! And I was wrong to feel that way.

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i don't really get why radiohead fans don't like 'knives out', or at least will pick that single to disparage and show that they're not blind believers or whatever, it's a lovely tune, better fake smiths than belle and sebastian are ever gonna whip up - why the hate?

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Because it's boring and sounds like the slow parts of Paranoid Android, and they spent so long recording it to make it sound 'effortless' that they sucked every bit of passion out of it.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:08 (twenty-one years ago)

It sounded better before it had drums.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Like the freakiest campfire song you've ever heard.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Melissa in OTM shocker. Knives Out was basically the beginning of the end of my Radiohead fandom - that they thought it was a single shows that they've no idea what they're good at.

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

ah auteurism, that's why it's no good, ok

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:19 (twenty-one years ago)

that they thought it was a single shows that they've no idea what they're good at.
I don't know if they've ever much liked it. It took like a year for them to record that version, because Thom hated it so much. They never even play it live.

I think it was a single because there weren't a whole lot of radio-friendly choices on Amnesiac.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:23 (twenty-one years ago)

When you're Radiohead, single != radio-friendly though.

edward o (edwardo), Friday, 27 August 2004 07:44 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 10

Points: 841
No. of votes: 38
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: OUTKAST
Title: MISS JACKSON
Label: Arista
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/missjackson.jpg

Adding yet another string to their bow, Andre Benjamin's apology to the mother of his child for being a bit of an arse tickles the heart in a way echoed by the repetetive descending piano notes throughout the song. Aside from the somewhat unusual sentiments (for a pop song) there's the usual complicated strings of rhymes delivered with aplomb by Big Boi while Dre exploits his strange but addictive drawl to the full while the cute Prince-like synth-led backing track complete with reversed snares plays out. A precursor to the next album in many ways, but in the meantime a damn fine song in it's own right.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 09:48 (twenty-one years ago)

miss jackson is still remarkably good. i downloaded "letter from an occupant" last night and i found it very shrill.

m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:09 (twenty-one years ago)

i downloaded "letter from an occupant" last night and i found it very shrill.

Exactly. :)

Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I realize that people who have been following Outkast from the beginning of their career could make more esoteric comments, but I'm always a little puzzled as to why "So Fresh, So Clean" doesn't get as much attention as "Miss Jackson." I think they both got the same amount of radio play (around here). "Miss Jackson" is more unusual lyrically, but they were both kind of similar.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

"Miss Jackson" is more unusual lyrically = subject matter that connects with a broader audience (me, you, your mama, your babys mama's mama, etc.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:23 (twenty-one years ago)

all outkast tracks are musically just p-funk updates to one extent or another (until "hey ya!" that is, but even that has a "can you get to that"/"me and my folks" thing going on)

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:24 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 9

Points: 901
No. of votes: 34
No. of #1 votes: 5

Artist: DAFT PUNK
Title: ONE MORE TIME
Label: Virgin
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/onemoretime.jpg

One of the best singles of the last ten years, instant classic/constant 'grower' etc etc. I LIKE the 'overly' long break in the middle - delayed gratification pushed to its limits, and when the beat does comes in ..."celebrate and dance so free". The lyrics are wonderful too, so simple, so perfect - how else could it be said? Andrew L

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Only #9? Wow. That was my number one vote, btw.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 27 August 2004 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

i told you all "digital love" would place ahead of it

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 August 2004 11:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah I knew it would. My #1 too though.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Andre Benjamin's apology to the mother of his child

i thought it was to the mother of the mother of his child

ken c (ken c), Friday, 27 August 2004 11:24 (twenty-one years ago)

that was my number one as well :-/

pete b. (pete b.), Friday, 27 August 2004 11:35 (twenty-one years ago)

ah, i'm so happy i brought discovery with me today to university. well, i would be if i'd have brought headphones or all these other people would leave the computer lab.

m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 27 August 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

that's what i meant to write ken

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 8

Points: 939
No. of votes: 55
No. of #1 votes: 3

Artist: KELIS
Title: MILKSHAKE
Label: Virgin
Year: 2004

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/milkshake.jpg

Everybody loves playground songs, especially the big kids who get to go home to freak mamas for long, long nights of hot loving. Or to put it another way, remember in Wayne's World 2 when Garth admits: "She makes me feel kinda funny. Like when we used to climb the rope in gym class"? 'Milkshake's a lot like that. It's the sound of your face being buried in Kelis' tits for hours while having the best rough'n'fumble you can have with a girl for ages. It seems perfect, but as she sings sweetly and filthily in your ears (I always
thought she had the sexiest vocals of any singer currently working), you eventually realize that Pharrell and Chad are Taping You at it, but they're supplying this most excellent vibrator bass that you can't resist, so you just be the big kid and lap it up.Barima

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

only one track got more votes than Milkshake

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

God, that song is so overrated.

frankE (frankE), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:12 (twenty-one years ago)

has that become the the general public cw best/archetypal neptunes the way 'are you that somebody' probably is the cw best/archetypal timbaland?

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I had no idea the single showed Kelis sitting atop a milkshake. I must buy it.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, what kind of crazy milkshake is that? It looks more like an ice cream.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

it's kinda more of a coke float ain't it?

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, you're right. I suppose a real milkshake wouldn't look so spectacular. Still, the dishonesty has put me off buying it.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:16 (twenty-one years ago)

God I hate that song.

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:19 (twenty-one years ago)

i should publish the comments some people gave with their hate votes, heh

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Trick Me is so much better than Milkshake it's untrue but whatever

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Looks like she just took a dump in that shake. Send it back!

NickB (NickB), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I admit, that was my choice for my most hated song on the list. My comments on my good choices were all along the lines of "Duh who wouldn't vote for this? Fagtogs, that's who."

Allyzay Science Explosion (allyzay), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i hated that song for about 3 days, when it first came out. i want those 3 days of my life BACK.

peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:23 (twenty-one years ago)

i just about shit my britches the first time i heard it

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Kinda surprised Milkshake charted so high (above Crazy In Love AND Work It!) Its good but I can't say I'd have voted for it, especially when there's nothing at all from Kaleidoscope in this list.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

kaleidoscope's last century

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

it would've counted as it was tail end '99

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

will people nominate it for the 90s poll eh? EH?!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah right, thought it came out in very early 2000 over here - Caught Out There definitely did.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Best music moment of the past 5 years:

Between 15:45 and 16:00 on September 9th 2003, on my headphones at work, I downloaded and heard (in order) "Milkshake", "Lucky Star", "Good Luck" and "Hey Ya" for the first time. For the next hour or so, I just kept playing them over and over - whilst manfully resisting the urge to make James Brown noises and pummel my fists on the desk with the sheer untrammelled joy of it all. Well, it had been a while.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:40 (twenty-one years ago)


No. 7

Points: 1000
No. of votes: 45
No. of #1 votes: 5

Artist: R KELLY
Title: IGNITION (REMIX)
Label: Jive
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/ignitionremix.jpg

100 Reasons Why "Ignition - Remix" Is So Damned Great

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Worst song in the top 10 thus far (relatively speaking though, since the top 10 is pretty damned awesome thus far).

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, it's just NOT THAT GOOD. It IS good. Really. BUT.

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

what IS bad is that image... somebody find a better one!

peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't see the big deal about R.Kelly, but never mind. I hate most modern male R&B.

So, is it 'Hey Ya!' or 'B.O.B' that's not going to make the top 100? This could tell us so much about ILM, but I don't know what.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Andrew, Barry, I weep for both of you.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 6

Points: 1026
No. of votes: 44
No. of #1 votes: 5

Artist: LCD SOUNDSYSTEM
Title: LOSING MY EDGE
Label: Output
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/losingmyedge.jpg

Some people want to punch his face in. I don't. It makes me want to punch my own face in, in a kind of delirious fidget dance. Totale's Turn, it's Now4Ever. Alba

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

(xpost-o-rama but anyway)

Songs on _Tasty_ that are better than "Milkshake":

Keep It Down
Flashback
Trick Me
Protect My Heart
Rolling Through The Hood (only sometimes, though)

Keep in mind that I love "Milkshake" and, had I voted, I probably would have voted for it.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Ignition was my #1. I can't think of six songs better than it in the last 30 years never mind the last five.

Venga, Friday, 27 August 2004 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i've never known why Flashback is on both that and Wanderland - ?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Isn't Wanderland officially non-existent or something?

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

YEAH YEAH (ooh you make my body go)

You make me come.... ALIVE (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Only one of my choices left to go. I think all but two of mine made it to the top 100.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Four of mine left... certain they'll be Top 5... but as for the 5th... ???

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Wanderland under a fiver

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not the biggest 'Milkshake' fan, but I wrote that review because Steve asked nicely and because Kelis occasionally makes me excited (the song's all about what a tease she is and BOY THAT'S TRUE).In fact, I was stuck at my desk at work trying to write it and then suddenly banged that out in a moment of total arousal. Still, I'm not sure she should take that much credit, after all, I always get horny when I'm bored at work.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll say it again, Missy and Da Punk are bound for the top 3 (he hopes).

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:08 (twenty-one years ago)

don't get me wrong, i like Milkshake and i think Kelis is pretty sexy in the video but there are three better singles by her, not including the Timo Maas remix of 'Young Fresh And New' which i love more than ever lately for some reason.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

That review was hot B

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Kelis' record label is named "Virgin".

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Losing My Edge at #6 = victory for the plucky underdog!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Phil Collins' record label was named "Virgin", is he teasing you as well Barima!

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks, Andrew.

3 better singles than 'Milkshake'? 'Caught Out There', 'Good Stuff' and 'Suspended'.

Janet Jackson's record label is named...

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

so whats left? hey ya, toxic, BOB, digital love, and get ur freak on?

peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Suspended was not a single, i'm talkin 'Get Along With You' - i dont rate Good Stuff over Milkshake

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Not quite, "Toxic"'s gone already, aww

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

'Get Along With You' and 'Caught Out There' aren't this decade, though. Or is that not the point here?

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:29 (twenty-one years ago)

MILKSHAKE IS THE WORST SONG EVER WRITTEN

jed_ (jed), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

what about hojl?

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

That'll turn up, don't fret

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Not even nominated, Yanc3y!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Nope. But this: Suspended was not a single, i'm talkin 'Get Along With You' is true, I got my tracks mixed up.


i dont rate Good Stuff over Milkshake

Yeah, but I do.

HOJL ain't here.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Or is it? I thought my DFA choice was split btw LCD (which won) and Le Panthro.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:36 (twenty-one years ago)

'Yeah' can't possibly be this high, can it?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I think 'Yeah' has got to give.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Fuck I saw even today "HOJL" wasn't in this but it just WILL NOT SET. How did this happen, etc, I might've even voted for it!

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

HOJL is one of those 'b-but other tracks by the artist are as good if not better, why does everyone go on about this one' things for me.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

was Yeah even particularly that popular on ILM? I can't remember it getting that much praise here, and I can't imagine it being that much higher than Get Low.

Al (sitcom), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)

"Losing My Edge" is one of those for me, except it's more "other tracks are better, why does everyone still prefer this lame comedy routine?"

"Yeah" was big, but not that big. I still thought it was Top 50 big though.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Not when even 'Hot In Herre' can't break the 50 surely

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah Alba but since that's the one everyone DOES happen to go for (wackily enough I like 'Sister Savior') I suppose it'dve been nice if it was in the running

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

"Yeah" has more cred I think. Maybe people with cred don't vote in ILM polls though.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I guess. I like 'Sister Saviour' best too! (the DFA remix).

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:49 (twenty-one years ago)

it seems to be mostly people who toe the ILM line who do so.

xp

sister Saviour is my least favourite Rapture track.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:50 (twenty-one years ago)

'Losing My Edge' is not just a comedy wacky routine. It's a genius vomit.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sad that I couldn't nominate "Balloony" by LA Style because it's better than most of the songs listed so far (mostly because I'm listening to it right at this second).

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think its a wacky comedy routine, it's an alternative comedy routine though, maybe not the Ben Elton variety.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I LIKE 'GIVE IT UP' NOW

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought I read somewhere that "Yeah" was a far bigger hit than "Losing My Edge"/"Beat Connection." Of course, not big enough to reach even #100 on the Billboard charts, but still...

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 27 August 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

This is all getting very tetchy.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG "GIVE IT UP" MUST FIND NOW

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

milkshake sounded terrif when i first heard it sometime in the summer with the chorus worked into a dj's setlist as a recurring theme. at the time i assumed it was just a random obscure sample ("this is a journey...") like the mini dirty raps on dj assault's records or whatev, and it sounded great in spaced-out 15-sec doses!! never in my worst nightmares did i imagine it would actually attempt to sustain an entire song!!!

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't believe it was only ME voted "Crazy In Love" as #1; probably because I was comparing this year's summer with last year's. Maybe.

Diego Valladolid (dvalladt), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

"... only ME who voted...", I meant.

Diego Valladolid (dvalladt), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

i wish i had voted! i don't think i was reading ilx when this was put together.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 5

Points: 1080
No. of votes: 46
No. of #1 votes: 7

Artist: OUTKAST
Title: B.O.B.
Label: Arista
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/bob.jpg

When I know "Bombs Over Baghdad" is about to come on my stereo, I get scared. Because I know that it\'s one of those extremely rare songs that demands your complete and undivided attention. I know that for the next five minutes, I will have no control over my own thoughts, my own sensations, or even my own body--they will all be completely under the control of Big Boi and Andre 3000. And yeah, it's a scary proposition, but we still keep on listening-such is our implicit trust in the coolest motherfunkers on the planet. In the second verse, Dre demands, "be prepared/coz when I leave there/better be a household name". You did a whole lot more than that, guys. You left your music ingrained on our psyche for the rest of time. The Good Dr Bill

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Bombs Over Baghdad

First ever ILM hype!

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:30 (twenty-one years ago)

what the hell is blandford forum?

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

In Dorset.

I'd highly recommend it.

(haha)

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 4

Points: 1178
No. of votes: 52
No. of #1 votes: 7

Artist: DIZZEE RASCAL
Title: I LUV U
Label: XL
Year: 2003

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\"I Luv U\" by Dizzee Rascal...I\'d heard the hype about Dizzee before I\'d even heard OF him, let alone heard a note off the album. I was skeptical, and I still don\'t think \"Boy In Da Corner\" is great overall. Maybe that\'s because the rest of the CD pales in comparison to the BEST FUCKING CUT OF THE DECADE. Holy shit, this is propulsive as all hell and it has better he said/she said give-and-take than any tune I\'ve ever heard, and people I HAVE HEARD \"I GOT A MAN\" BY POSITIVE K. I don\'t know who the female rapper is on this track, but whoever she is, she just about smokes Dizzee right out of the tune (the accent doesn\'t hurt) and needs to get her own album on the streets post haste. Gear!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

That may be the most OTM comment on this entire list ... those are *exactly* my feelings too.
I was holding out hope that this would be #1 because the other top 10 shoo-ins that are coming are simply trampled into a pulp by this.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Strange song, this. I suppose I enjoy it well enough but I'm still surprised at why it was seen as such a revelation. Personally I think he keeps getting better.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think anyone got your Dorset joke, Jamie. (xpost)

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Those at 3, her at 2, ils at 1?

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Goddammit, if fucking "Get Ur Freak On" is number one, I'm gonna be VERY upset.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 27 August 2004 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

*crosses fingers*

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 3

Points: 1214
No. of votes: 45
No. of #1 votes: 8

Artist: DAFT PUNK
Title: DIGITAL LOVE
Label: Virgin
Year: 2001

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When trying to explain why "Digital Love" and its parent album are so well loved by ILM, Spencer Chow said something to the effect of "why are we discussing this album as if it wasn't the soundtrack to an anime about blue alien rockstars from another dimension?" which is one (true) way of looking at it. But when I listen to "Digital Love" I don't think of blue Captain Harlock aliens or super-deformed Van Halen or Supertramp and the Buggles and 10cc or irony and camp. I think about (duh) love, the very common joy everyone feels for uploading their specific love for a specific person onto very general songs. This is where the irony/not-irony dialectic falls down dead in its moon boots: someone, somewhere loves this song as if their life depended on it, as if it bottled the essence of the person they associate with it. Sonically, listening again I'm amazed at how the understated beat is really the key, moving everything along while never drawing attention to itself. Which is important, because the audacity of the guitar solo still has the power to take my breath away when I'm locked into the moment. When this first came out, I played it to a group of friends (including an ex I had bought Homework for back in 97) claiming it to be the best song I'd ever heard to stone faced expressions (even during the solo!). It was then I knew I had to get out of that town. Three months later I met someone who loved it as much as I did, and the next two years played out to its soundtrack. "Digital Love" is the best song of the decade (and maybe ever) because it's the song which * I've * filled in the most. A candy dish is pretty useless until you fill it with candy, you know? Jess

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

MISSY 4 EVER. HEY YA NEVER.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

(I still like 'Hey Ya!' but come on)

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Hooray, I am not the only person who has made emo comments about Daft Punk!!

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Missy #2.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom, EVERYONE has made emo comments about Daft Punk except maybe me and Ally!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Daft Punk got 14 #1 picks between the three singles. Amazing. But "Digital Love" and "One More Time" got fewer votes than the tracks surrounding them on the list, so it looks like vote splitting cost these tracks a lot of points.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I really need to hear Daft Punk one of these days, hmmm?

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:49 (twenty-one years ago)

they'll be on gta7

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Listen to Stardust instead; you get all of the same effect and don't have to sit through two hours of music.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Hang on, OutKast have nine #1 picks ... they're certain to top DP's fourteen when Hey Ya shows up.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

When I hear Digital Love I DO think of Buggles. I'm glad it didn't win.

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not. Digital Love should have been No.1

zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

No. 2

Points: 1218
No. of votes: 48
No. of #1 votes: 5

Artist: MISSY ELLIOTT
Title: GET UR FREAK ON
Label: Virgin
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/geturfreakon.jpg

GIVE ME SOME NEW SHIT. 'Get Ur Freak On' is the sound of two of the most streetwise dorks in musical history not so much throwing away the rulebook as wiping their backsides with it only for it to end up smelling like roses every time. Tim throws ideas and influences from everything, everyone and everywhere into the mix and out comes a deceptively minimal yet immensely powerful bomb track for Missy to pilot to the outer limits. Instant for some, slowburn for others (including myself who initally preferred the more immediate, blatant hooks of previous hits), a few months down the line it was still bewildering dancefloors as much as packing them out. And what is that old man saying? And oh my God, she just spat at me! And then. Then the bootlegs came. Mash-up after mash-up flooding through, each one a tidal wave adding insult to the injuries sustained by the relentless perfection attained inside four minutes right here. So it's symbolic I suppose, though maybe disappointing in a way that all those plundering typhoons are now nowhere but the original rides this high in people's minds a few years down the line. But that's how good it was, and remains.


No. 1

Points: 1437
No. of votes: 60
No. of #1 votes: 7

Artist: OUTKAST
Title: HEY YA!
Label: Arista
Year: 2003

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Big Boi's fierce club bangers pleased the fanbase but you can't deny
that it was the maverick genius of Andre 3000 that let Outkast drag
hip-hop kicking and screaming into the new millennium. A genre which
always had the potential to encompass everything suddenly did,
and "Hey Ya!" was the cherry on the icing on the cake of genius.
People who say that 'Dre is 'indulgent' were obviously living in caves when "Hey Ya!" ruled the radio - no tighter pop tune had hit big since the 60s (no accident the video referenced that epoch). But how many of the listeners 'shaking it like a polaroid picture' paused to comprehend the bittersweet lyrics that add yet another layer to this tune's mastery? Maybe it doesn't matter what the horde of new fans understood - Andre 3000 has always known that great music needs to be about emotion as well as getting jiggy and bling-blingin'. Barry Sheavils

Or maybe not...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)

This is a bit embarrassing.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I don't feel nearly as bad about somehow forgetting to vote for "Hey Ya".

Good job on the poll as a whole, stevem.

Maciej Kasperowicz (Maciej), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh. I'm with Dan on both the thread results here. And indeed, rah for Stevem!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

this + kid a has made this all hilariously worth it.

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, completely! It's incredibly entertaining.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, cheers steve.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

the only thing worse than hey ya winning -> crazy in love winning. (or radiohead. haha ok enough sorry.)

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Good job stevem. ILM should collectively shoot itself, tho'.

zebedee (zebedee), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I suppose i'm glad it's not Daft Punk.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:16 (twenty-one years ago)

AVERAGE POINTS / VOTE FOR:

Digital Love - 26.978
Get Ur Freak On - 25.375
Hey Ya - 23.95

frankE (frankE), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Great job steve!

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

YOUR STATS TRICKERY WILL NEVER REGAIN YOUR STREET CRED HAHAHAHAHAHA

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Jeez, this is the same feeling I had when John Major won in 1992. Inevitable but still distressingly disappointing.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

ILM/GRAMMY MIND-MELD!

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:19 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah seriously - this place can't ever talk shit about the grammy's again

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm going down the pub. so long suckers.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Drinks are on all of us. Steal our PIN numbers and charge our accounts.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

if i hadn't forgotten to vote for digital love it would have been no. 2 - small consolation, though.

this is the feeling that reminds me why doing this on PFM (it was discussed w/Ryan around the time steve started this here) is probably not such a good idea: The crushing, boring inevitability of Kid A-Hey Ya! as winners coupled with probable places on the albums podium for, like, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot and that Interpol LP...

scott pl. (scott pl.), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

PFM shouldn't be doing it anyway because Stylus started planning theirs months before this poll.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Bravo to Stevem! Roll on the 90s!

There wasno doubt in my mind about the Hey Ya! result. Oh well.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, Alba has to leave ILM now ;)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, and a few posts down, I'm supposed to go on TEH RAMPAGE ... but I think I did that already yesterday on this thread.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Despite Jess contrasting my remarks re: "Digital Love", his blurb is completely OTM - despite the supposed archness which surrounds it (robots, anime, french irony) it's the truest ever illustration of love and my favorite love song of all time - my #1 vote by a mile.

Big Up to Steve on arranging this whole thing, I've really enjoyed it.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:00 (twenty-one years ago)

A genre which always had the potential to encompass everything suddenly did - uhm, except for the bits of the genre that that made it the genre it was before it encompassed everything else that wasn't it

m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Love Jess' comment on "Digital Love" as well. There's something to be said for the video but the song is pure emotion if not singularly love (the quieter bits give me a different feeling than the louder bits). I just go crazy during the solo and it can be quite dangerous if I'm driving. My #1 also by quite a bit.

Steve, you are awesome for running this show, and though I was a little annoyed by the long countdown at first, I was very excited by the end.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Can we turn these into books and sell them to gullible people?

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Gullible people? These lists should be required reading for music 101 classes at universities!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Gullibility is perhaps the key word re. the Daft Punk love on ILM.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 27 August 2004 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

although, yes, i do love Jess's write up of it.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 27 August 2004 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Steve, you are awesome for running this show, and though I was a little annoyed by the long countdown at first, I was very excited by the end.

Ditto.

I woke up this morning and turned to my girlfriend and said, "Hey guess what? It's Friday. That means you don't have to work until noon, and we get to have dinner together tonight, and also, uh..."

"What?"

"Well, the ILM Top 10 is revealed today!"

She sensibly turned away from me and went back to sleep.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 27 August 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

You couldn't say "I've got a surprise for you!" and then buy some flowers for her? NO SKILLZ.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 18:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I would never want to hear Dan Perry exclaim "I've got a surprise for you!"

bnw (bnw), Friday, 27 August 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

"It's my penis!"
"How is that a surprise?"
"... It's got a dickie?"
"Go away."

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Great job and loads of fun!
The poll, not your penis.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 August 2004 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

man did this list redeem itself at the end

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 27 August 2004 19:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Quiet, you ;-).

Well, that was obvious. Still, I forgot 'B.O.B.' was in the running, but I suppose that'll make me want to kill Dre and the midget more.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 27 August 2004 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh good. Had it not been for my "hate" vote, "Toxic" would have beaten "Crazy In Love." I feel like I made a difference today.

billstevejim, Friday, 27 August 2004 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

there is no god

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 August 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

but BRAVO STEVE!!!!

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 August 2004 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

(So how many points/votes did Bardo Pond's "Every Man" get?)
(hides)

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Friday, 27 August 2004 20:33 (twenty-one years ago)

(I voted in spirit, Leee.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 20:34 (twenty-one years ago)

(All well and good, but I'm fearing that it got 35 points (ie. one #1 vote minus hate vote).)

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Friday, 27 August 2004 20:36 (twenty-one years ago)

(The drone is never ending.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 20:38 (twenty-one years ago)

(I voted for it -- #10 -- ahead of "Get Yr Freak On" and "Crazy in Love"!)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

(Indie-ists (crawl back) to the thread!)

btw Barry, you have good taste in hates.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Friday, 27 August 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

thank you steve for doing this!!

dave k, Friday, 27 August 2004 20:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Lee, did you vote for "Hunted By a Freak"? Or did it just get my 45 points and nobody else's?

And I think "Every Man" is one of the weakest tracks on that album -- I would have ranked almost any other OTE track higher.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

"Heeeeeey Yaaaaaaa, Heeeeeeeeeey Yaaaaaaaaa!" That song is the coolest! It's like a carnival in your brain!!!

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 27 August 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate "Hunted By A Freak" -- spoils my liking for the whole album.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Friday, 27 August 2004 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Ugh, really? And you wrote the "Rock Action" comment (diff. album, but still)?!?

I fell so abandoned ... :)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

feel, even.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

My comment read harsh, I forgot to include a haha in it. I'm actually warming to Bag of Agony (I won't countenance the used title) -- but to me Mogwai have always had the least consensus among fans ever when it came to their favored albums.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Barry: I voted for "Hunted by a Freak." The rest of the album spoils my love for that song.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

(I think it was my #10 or so?)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:33 (twenty-one years ago)

(Rock Action is my favorite Mogwai album, but I didn't vote for it.)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:35 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah 'cos there was so much other great stuff to vote for!

jed_ (jed), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I wish I'd voted.

PS: How come no one voted for "Yeah!" or "Freek-A-Leek"?

djdee2005, Friday, 27 August 2004 21:50 (twenty-one years ago)

next poll I will only vote for untitled songs by minimalist composers using the sounds of walking ants and dewdrops falling off blades of grass

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Have you got any idea how long it takes to read this entire thread after returing from Summer hols? And then you people reveal the Albums winner when I haven't even started on that one! Anyhow, what a fantastic thing it's been, all my votes got into the Top 100 and two out of my Top Three are in the actual Top Three so I am most certianly not complaining... Hurrah for stevem!

JoB (JoB), Friday, 27 August 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

but to me Mogwai have always had the least consensus among fans ever when it came to their favored albums.
Yeah, them or maybe Suede. Or Kraftwerk.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

BOYS AND GIRLS LOVE GOD ABOVE!

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Saturday, 28 August 2004 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

At least it isn't an indie single.

Atnevon (Atnevon), Saturday, 28 August 2004 04:30 (twenty-one years ago)

how did Poison do?

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 28 August 2004 11:38 (twenty-one years ago)

wait.no..............southern hospitality?

bakers (thoia), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Are we going to get what 101-200 were here? I'm really curious.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I've just noticed that 'Say My Name' was released in 1999 not 2000, so shouldn't even be on the list.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

1. Outkast - Hey Ya! (1437)
2. Missy Elliott - Get Ur Freak On (1218)
3. Daft Punk - Digital Love (1214)
4. Dizzee Rascal - I Luv U (1178)
5. Outkast - B.O.B. (1080)
6. LCD Soundsystem - Losing My Edge (1026)
7. R Kelly - Ignition (Remix) (1000)
8. Kelis - Milkshake (939)
9. Daft Punk - One More Time (901)
10. Outkast - Miss Jackson (841)
11. Radiohead - Idioteque (809)
12. Basement Jaxx - Romeo (798)
13. The New Pornographers - Letter From An Occupant (768)
14. Beyonce (featuring Jay-Z) (754)
15. Britney Spears - Toxic (751)
16. Missy Elliott - Work It (660)
17. Jay-Z - 99 Problems (641)
18. The Avalanches - Since I Left You (631)
19. Radiohead - Everything In It's Right Place (621)
20. Radiohead - There There (571)
21. Girls Aloud - No Good Advice (550)
22. Eminem - Stan (524)
23. Justin Timberlake - Cry Me A River (508)
24. Le Tigre - Deceptacon (DFA mix) (507)
25. Radiohead - Pyramid Song (506)
26. Lil Jon & The Eastside Boyz (featuring The Ying-Yang Twinz) - Get Low (494)
27. The Flaming Lips - Fight Test (469)
28. The Roots (featuring Cody Chestnutt) - The Seed 2.0 (445)
29. The Streets - Weak Become Heroes (442)
30. The Strokes - Hard To Explain (434)
31. Queens Of The Stone Age - No-One Knows (399)
32. Sleater-Kinney - Oh! (395)
33. Daft Punk - Harder Better Faster Stronger (383)
34. Phoenix - If I Ever Feel Better (378)
35. Vitalic - La Rock 01 (370)
36. Clipse - Grindin' (364)
37. Rachel Stevens - Some Girls (363)
38. Andrew WK - Party Hard (353)
39. Aaliyah - We Need A Resolution (351)
40. Phoenix - Too Young (340)
41. Boards Of Canada - In A Beautiful Place Out In The Country (337)
42. Belle & Sebastian - I'm A Cuckoo (337)
43. Roots Manuva - Witness (One Hope) (322)
44. Jay-Z - Izzo (H.O.V.A.) (318)
45. Basement Jaxx (featuring Dizzee Rascal) (318)
46. Kanye West - Jesus Walks (317)
47. Radiohead - Knives Out (314)
48. Mirah - Cold Cold Water (314)
49. Felix The Housecat - Silver Screen Shower Scene (313)
50. Saint Etienne - Heart Failed (In The Back Of A Taxi) (310)
51. M83 - Run Into Flowers (309)
52. Ladytron - Seventeen (309)
53. Big & Rich - Save A Horse, Ride A Cowboy (303)
54. The Junior Boys - Birthday (296)
55. Golden Boy & Miss Kittin - Rippin Kittin (293)
56. Destiny's Child - Say My Name (286)
57. The Strokes - Last Nite (282)
58. Ted Leo & The Pharmacists - Where Have All The Rude Boys Gone? (276)
59. Tweet - Oops (Oh My) (269)
60. Lambchop - Up With People (257)
61. Lumidee - Never Leave You (Uh Oh) (254)
62. Broadcast - Echo's Answer (250)
63. The Avalanches - Frontier Psychiatrist (248)
64. The White Stripes - Hotel Yorba (243)
65. Radiohead - Like Spinning Plates (235)
66. Sean Paul - Get Busy (233)
67. Life Without Buildings - The Leanover (233)
68. Mclusky - Lightsabre Cocksucking Blues (229)
69. Nelly - Hot In Herre
70. Smog - Dress Sexy At My Funeral
71. Aimee Mann - Save Me (221)
72. Britney Spears - I'm A Slave 4 U (213)
73. MIA - Galang (211)
74. Superpitcher - Heroin (210)
75. Stars - Elevator Love Letter (205)
76. Underworld - Two Months Off (202)
77. Andrew WK - She Is Beautiful (201)
78. The Dismemberment Plan - Face Of The Earth (198)
79. Jamelia - Superstar (184)
80. Shellac - A Prayer To God (180)
81. Twista (featuring Kanye West & Jamie Foxx) - Slow Jamz (180)
82. Black Dice - Things Will Never Be The Same (173)
83. Blur - Out Of Time (168)
84. The Streets - The Irony Of It All (166)
85. Dead Prez - Hip Hop (165)
86. The Junior Boys - Last Exit (163)
87. Outkast (featuring Killer Mike) - The Whole World (162)
88. Kylie Minogue - Come Into My World (Fischerspooner remix) (158)
89. Grandaddy - The Warming Sun (157)
90. Together - So Much Love To Give (153)
91. Aaliyah - More Than A Woman (150)
92. Archigram - Carnaval (148)
93. Quannum (featuring Latyrx & Lyrics Born) - I Changed My Mind (148)
94. The Wu-Tang Clan (featuring Isaac Hayes) - I Can't Go To Sleep (145)
95. Britney Spears - Anticipating (141)
96. The Silver Jews - I Remember Me (136)
97. Sugababes - Run For Cover (127)
98. Stereo Total - L'Amour A Trois (127)
99. Mum - There Are A Number Of Small Things (124)
100. Mystikal - Bouncin' Back (Bumpin' Me Against The Wall) (123)

101. Christina Aguilera (featuring Redman) - Dirrty (121)
102. Camera Obscura - Suspended From Class (121)
103. Calla - Trinidad (119)
104. Nas - Made You Look (117)
105. Mu - Let's Get Sick (117)
106. Mogwai - Hunted By A Freak (116)
107. Animal Collective - Who Could Win A Rabbit (112)
108. Quarks - I Walk (Superpitcher Schaffel mix) (110)
109. Jim O' Rourke - Get A Room (110)
110. Bardo Pond - Every Man (109)
111. Basement Jaxx - Right Here's The Spot (107)
112. TV On The Radio - Blind (104)
113. Girls Aloud - The Sound Of The Underground (102)
114. Console - Zero Zero (100)
115. Alan Braxe & Fred Falke - Rubicon (97)
116. Xiu Xiu - Sad Pony Guerilla (93)
117. N-Sync - Gone (92)
118. A Perfect Circle - Judith (91)
119. Nina Sky - Move Your Body (90)
120. Jay-Z - Public Service Announcement (88)
121. The Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Our Time (86)
122. Sticky (featuring Miss Dynamite) - Boo! (85)
123. B15 Project - Girls Like Us (82)
124. Usher (featuring Lil Jon & Ludacris) - Yeah! (80)
125. FC Kahuna - Machine Says Yes (80)
126. Kardinal Offishal - Bellydancer (79)
127. Sage Francis - Makeshift Patriot (79)
128. So Solid Crew - 21 Seconds (78)
129. Deerhoof - L'Amour Stories (78)
130. Mogwai - Take Me Somewhere Nice (75)
131. Coba - After Dinner (Plaid mix) (73)
132. Fosca - It's Going To End In Tears (72)
133. David Banner - Cadillac On 22s (Screwed and chopped mix) (71)
134. Kid 606 - GQ On The EQ (69)
135. Yo La Tengo - Nuclear War (Mike Ladd mix) (65)
136. Nina Nastasia - That's All There Is (64)
137. Rovo - Konumu (61)
138. Luna - Astronaut (61)
139. Ghost - Hazy Paradise (57)
140. Liz Phair - Extraordinary (56)
141. Loretta Lynn - Van Lear Rose (55)
142. Angels Of Light - All Souls Rising (53)
143. Morrissey - America Is Not The World (52)
144. Killing Joke - Blood On Your Hands (52)
145. Cee-Lo - Glockapella (48)
146. Drugstore - Song For The Lonely (46)
147. Vitesse - Brighter Than The Sky (46)
148. George Michael - Amazing (45)
149. Portobella - Covered In Punk (45)
150. Together - Call On Me (45)
151. The Delays - Long Time Coming (45)
152. Idaho - Dum Dum (45)
153. Crispy Ambulance - Triphammer (45)
154. Soviet - Marbleyezed (45)
155. Smith n' Hack - To Our Disco Friends (45)
156. Femi Kuti - Beng Beng Beng (Chateau Flight mix) (45)
157. Kiley Dean - Keep It Movin' (45)
158. Bogdan Raczynski - My Love I Love (44)
159. Cosmos - Take Me With You (44)
160. Atmosphere - Modern Man's Hustle (44)
161. Busta Rhymes - Shorty (Put It On The Floor) (40)
162. Richard Hawley - Baby You're My Light (40)
163. Wire - 99.9 (39)
164. Angie Stone - Wish I Didn't Miss You (37)
165. Ohia & Scout Niblett - Peoria Lunch Box Blues (31)
166. Mammal - Fog Face (28)
167. Ty Herndon - Heather's Wall (28)
168. Flora Purim - Primeira Estrela (26)
169. Shania twain - Nah! (Brown mix) (25)
170. Black Lips - Ain't No Deal (20)
171. AMT - La Novia (Part 1) (20)
172. Ballboy - All The Records On The Radio Are Shite (19)
173. T Raumschmiere - Monstertruckdriver (19)
174. DJ Technics - Doo Dew Dingaling (16)
175. The Streets - Weak Become Heroes (Ashley Beedle mix) (16)
176. Scissorfight - Helicopter Killing Cottonmouth (7)
177. Vladislav Delay - Anima (5)
178. Alter Ego - Rocker (5)
179. Depeche Mode - I Feel Loved (2)
180. Poem-Cees - The 180 (2)
181. Dizzee Rascal - Vexed (1)
182. R Kelly - Fiesta (Remix) (0)
183. Sisqo - Thong Song (-65)
184. The Vines - Get Free (-67)

Unranked (tracks that failed to receive a single vote):

Bronwyn - Twenty-two
Bump & Flex - Promises
DJ Krush - Alepheueo (Truthspeaking)
Her Space Holiday - Lydia
Musical Mob - Pulse X
Poison - Stupid, Stoned And Dumb
Shy FX - The Power Of Rah!
Simon Bookish - Michael
Trost - Douchebag

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 15:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, Usher and Nina weren't even close.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I will never get LCD Soundsystem.

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:52 (twenty-one years ago)

OMG, Bardo Pond and Mogwai didn't miss by much!
Drugstore got more than just my vote!!
Depeche Mode's "I Feel Loved" must have got mine + someone else's - two hate votes!
Post ballots too plzokcool.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Oi - my ballot is private.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:58 (twenty-one years ago)

i'll probably return everyone's vote to them via the e-mail address they supplied and then they can post them here or on a new thread if they want.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

perfectly understandable

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I saved a copy of my ballot, so I'll just start that thread now ...

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Saturday, 28 August 2004 17:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Crikey! I didn't nominate La Novia but ended up being the only one who voted for it.

And if I'd voted for "Hunted by a freak" instead of "Take me somewhere nice" in the same 32 point spot...

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

156. Femi Kuti - Beng Beng Beng (Chateau Flight mix) (45)

Sigh. Well, at least I can count on a few other votes for my '90s nominations, I hope.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

So is someone going to be sending out CDs then?

artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 28 August 2004 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Eric i really want to hear that track as I like the original and i totally need more Chateau Flight in my life i think - i just havent got round to hearing it, and i knew nobody else would vote for it

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost

sure Chris, but it will take a week or two to sort out - hold tight

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh I'm not trying to rush you. I was actually wondering if someone else was going to take that on since you've already done so much work. Perhaps someone could do the US mailings?

artdamages (artdamages), Saturday, 28 August 2004 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

console's "zero zero" (actual title - "14 zero zero", unless this is indeed some remix or something that i don't know about) was released in 1997!!

m. (mitchlnw), Saturday, 28 August 2004 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Steve, it's jaw-dropping in my opinion. It's got this navy nightscape menace underneath (opening and closing with gargantuan snatches of trash-compacter crecsendo-decrescendo) and alien-tabla (or Mars-pogo, take your pick) bounce-happy beats (an intoxicating hybrid of d&b and house polyrhythms). And, of course, Femi's super-sexy vocals, with enough reverb to sound like he's singing right into his robot lover's metallic vagina.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:16 (twenty-one years ago)

wow, i killed dirrty

Symplistic (shmuel), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Hero for a second time.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Ooh, if I hadn't gone on holiday and forgotten to vote, more of my choices would have been outside the top 100 than in. I wasn't expecting that.

coco, Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)

RE: CDR: What should I do to get on that list? I'm excited to hear a great deal of this stuff...

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 August 2004 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

sound like he's singing right into his robot lover's metallic vagina.

that's ma boy...(see Goldfrapp review)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/15/15_1_141.gif

Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 29 August 2004 00:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Whew. I was worried I'd unwittingly ripped-off the metal box-chowing vocalization line. Whatever gets people to (belatedly) listen to the track.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Sunday, 29 August 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

122. Sticky (featuring Miss Dynamite) - Boo! (85)
123. B15 Project - Girls Like Us (82)
128. So Solid Crew - 21 Seconds (78)

ILM in NOT-ENOUGH-LOVE-FOR-2STEP SHOCKAH!

randy mamola, Sunday, 29 August 2004 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't believe Britney has 3 tracks and "Dirrty" didn't even make it!!! There should be a recount without the HATE VOTES!!! (I think it would have been #88 or something.)

Great job anyway Stevem, this was lots of fun! I wonder what I'll be looking forward to every morning from now on... Quick, bring on the 90's poll!

Seb (Seb), Sunday, 29 August 2004 05:52 (twenty-one years ago)

WOW Who voted for Peom-Cees? (Ned didn't vote!)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 29 August 2004 20:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Who the heck voted for Crispy Ambulance?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i will post a list sans hate votes in due course

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone commited suicide because of these lists yet?

Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 08:39 (twenty-one years ago)

ILM in NOT-ENOUGH-LOVE-FOR-2STEP SHOCKAH!

I was just thinking about this tonight. I loved "Out Of Your Mind" and "Crazy Love" soooo much back in the day.

Also, what about Spiller "Groovejet" and Modjo "Lady"!!!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 08:45 (twenty-one years ago)

and what about No Doubt's "Hella Good" eh?????!!!!?????

(many have already said this, but it can't be said enough - thank you very much for all this Steve, you're a hero!)

Mind Taker, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 09:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, what about Spiller "Groovejet" and Modjo "Lady"!!!

Both of these didn't even occur to me, possibly because they now seem so long ago. It was only this morning when I suddenly thought "where the hell is Can't Get You Out Of My Head?!"

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 09:49 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought of Spiller, and the FT disdain for it.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 09:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Top 100 Glaring Omissions then...

1. The Rapture 'House Of Jealous Lovers'
2. 50 Cent 'In Da Club'
3. Kylie Minogue 'Can't Get You Out Of My Head'
4. Eminem 'The Real Slim Shady'
5. Freelance Hellraiser 'A Stroke Of Genieus'
6. Destiny's Child 'Independent Woman (Part One)'
7. Sugababes 'Freak Like Me'
8. Sugababes 'Overload'
9. N.O.R.E. 'Nothin'
10. Truth Hurts ft Rakim 'Addictive'
11. DMX 'Party Hard'
12. Fischerspooner 'Emerge'
13. Sugababes 'Round Round'
14. Eminem 'Without Me'
15. Conway 'Lisa's Got Hives'
16. D12 'Purple Pills'
17. Sweet Female Attitude 'Flowers' (tho technically '99)
18. Spiller 'Groovejet'
19. No Doubt 'Hella Good'
20. The Strokes 'The Modern Age'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:01 (twenty-one years ago)

21. Basement Jaxx 'Good Luck'
22. Basement Jaxx 'Where's Your Head At?'
23. Destiny's Child 'Bootylicious'
24. Wayne Wonder 'No Letting Go'
25. Blu Cantrell & Sean Paul 'Breathe'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:04 (twenty-one years ago)

26. Eve & Gwen Stefani - 'Let Me Blow Ya Mind'
27. Blu Cantrell - 'Hit Em Up Style'
28. Sade - 'By Your Side'

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

29. J-Lo - 'Play'

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

30. White Stripes - Seven Nation Army
31. Panjabi MC - Mundian Te Bach Ke
32. Electric 6 - Danger! High Voltage

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:11 (twenty-one years ago)

This is for tracks that would have been likely to make it if nominated, yes? Not just ones you think are good personally?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

this was a great list until n. threw j-lo in there

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:13 (twenty-one years ago)

33. Destinys Child - Survivor
34. Kylie Minogue - Slow
35. Kelis - Caught Out There

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)

JUST LOVE THAT MUTHAFUCKING SONG!

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:14 (twenty-one years ago)

btw steve it's "party up" not "party hard" but a dmx/awk bootleg seems urgent now

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:15 (twenty-one years ago)

36. Dizzee Rascal - Fix Up Look Sharp

(All these would definitely have made the Top 100 had they been nominated, except perhaps Slow)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, sorry, I wasn't directing that comment at anyone who had posted so far, Matt. They wouldn't all though - that would be ridiculous.

37. The White Stripes - 'Fell In Love With A Girl'

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:17 (twenty-one years ago)

i think it's false to say these would have made the top 100 give the cif voting block

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Sade would have only got 2 votes

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

so many radiohead songs...

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Stevem, it would have got far more than 2 votes:

my "sade - 'by your side' " thread

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:19 (twenty-one years ago)

38. The Darkness - I Believe In A Thing Called Love
39. Ludacris - Saturday (Ooh Ooh)
40. Layo & Bushwacka - Love Story
41. Sean Paul - Like Glue

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:20 (twenty-one years ago)

oh okay it obviously would've been in the top ten had it been nominated. and then i would have quit ILM forever...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:21 (twenty-one years ago)

(Okay Love Story is a bit of a long shot...)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:21 (twenty-one years ago)

42. LCD Soundsystem - 'Beat Connection'

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

43. Scissor Sisters 'Laura (Simone)'
44. Dr Dre ft Snoop Dogg 'The Next Episode' / Dr Dre ft Snoop Dogg 'Still Dre'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

44. Christina Milian - 'Dip It Low'
45. Mylo - 'Drop The Pressure'

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:25 (twenty-one years ago)

46. Junior Senior - Move Your Feet
47. tAtU - All The Things She Said
48. S Club 7 - Don't Stop Moving

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:26 (twenty-one years ago)

50. Linus Loves 'The Terrace'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

51. Dr Dred - 'Still D.R.E.'

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Err.. not Dred.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:27 (twenty-one years ago)

52. DJ Marky 'LK (The Way)'
53. Joe Budden 'Pump It Up'
54. Liberty X 'Being Nobody'
55. Liberty X 'Just A Little'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

52. Busted - Crashed A Wedding
53. Busted - That's What I Go To School For
54. Justin Timberlake - Like I Love You
55. Justin Timberlake - Rock Your Body
56. Franz Ferdinand - Take Me Out
57. Jay-Z - Big Pimpin'
58. Jay-Z - Girls Girls Girls
59. Wu-Tang Clan - Gravel Pit

I think we might genuinely find 100 songs that could have placed here.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the idea of getting to 100 songs, with the implication that not a single track on the original list would have made it if these had been nominated.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

60. System Of A Down 'Chop Suey'
61. Limp Bizkit 'Rollin'
62. Linkin Park 'One Step Closer'
63. Weezer 'Hashpipe'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Come on, Anthony Miccio only gets one vote!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh - scrap 51. I didn't see that stevem had already had it.

Minus one then.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

64. Chemical Brothers 'Star Guitar'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

no Nick, it was one or the other but you've covered the other, so to speak - i just didn't think both would be worth inclusion

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:33 (twenty-one years ago)

65. Mis-Teeq 'Scandalous' (or 'All I Want' if you's a Mis-Teeq purist ;)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:34 (twenty-one years ago)

66. X-Press II ft David Byrne 'Lazy'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

67. No Doubt ft Bounty Killer 'Hey Baby'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:37 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm getting this thread locked once we reach 100

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)

68. ALL SAINTS - PURE SHORES! (Oh, how swiftly we forget)
69. Holly Valance - Kiss Kiss
70. Richard X vs Liberty X - Being Nobody
71. Britney Spears - Boys
72. Britney Spears - Oops I Did It Again
73. Holly Valance - Down Boy

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)

74. Rachel Stevens - 'Sweet Dreams My LA Ex'
75. Freiland - 'Frei / Hot Love (Justus Köhncke feat. Meloboy Mix)'

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:39 (twenty-one years ago)

76. Ladytron - 'Discotraxx'
77. All Saints - 'Black Coffee'

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Erm, ignore Being Nobody, didn't see Steve had already mentioned it.

In that case,

73. Dr Dre and Eminem - Forgot About Dre

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck All Saints with a big shoe

74. Mirwais 'Disco Science'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i mean 78

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:42 (twenty-one years ago)

79. DJ Zinc '138 Trek'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

80. Audio Bullys 'The Snow'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:43 (twenty-one years ago)

81. Holly Valance 'State Of Mind' (tho this three-way split vote would probably crush her top 100 hopes severely)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)

82. Shapeshifters - 'Lola's Theme'

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:44 (twenty-one years ago)

83. AVRIL - SK8ER BOI!
84. NERD - Lapdance
85. Pharrell - Frontin'

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:46 (twenty-one years ago)

86. Shimon & Andy C 'Bodyrock'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:48 (twenty-one years ago)

87. Soulwax - Smells Like Booty
88. Kurtis Rush - Forgot About Overload (or whatever it's called)

zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:48 (twenty-one years ago)

89. DJ Shadow 'Six Days'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

90. Queens Of The Stone Age - Lost Art Of Keeping A Secret
91. The Knife - Heartbeats
92. Coldplay - Cocks (it feels incredibly reductivist to ignore them altogether)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:49 (twenty-one years ago)

88. Kurtis Rush - Forgot About Overload (or whatever it's called)

imagine having both the bootleg AND the two tracks it pilfers...actually this would just seem wrong

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Coldplay - Cocks

Sigmund to thread

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:50 (twenty-one years ago)

93. Annie - 'Heartbeat'
94. Justus Köhncke - 'Timecode'

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:51 (twenty-one years ago)

95. Adam Beyer 'Ignition Key (speedy J mix)'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:51 (twenty-one years ago)

96. The Streets - 'Dry Your Eyes'

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)

95. The Streets - Dry Your Eyes (can't BELIEVE we forgot that one)

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)

both of you are banned from the thread forth-hence

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:53 (twenty-one years ago)

97. Osymyso 'Intro Inspection'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:53 (twenty-one years ago)

97. Electric 6 - GHEYE BAR

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha - but it would have made the list, unlike several here.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:53 (twenty-one years ago)

99. Streets - Has It Come To This?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

imagine having both the bootleg AND the two tracks it pilfers...actually this would just seem wrong

yeah, but I would personally ditch the 2 originals. This is the one mash-up which IMO improves on both its sources.

zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i disagree totally there

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

same with 'Smells Like Teen Booty' - one of the weaker Soulwax boots unlike 10cc/Destiny's

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:55 (twenty-one years ago)

100. Nickelback 'How You Remind Me'

OMG LOL

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I think No.100 should be another Radiohead track.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

ok Missy 'One Minute Man' then

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:56 (twenty-one years ago)

They made that? Wow, they are so multi-talented!

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Well anyway, rocking list.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)

RIGHT! LOCK THIS THREAD NOW AND GIVE ME MY LIFE BACK!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 10:57 (twenty-one years ago)

And *still* we forgot Girls Aloud - The Show. Can we let them in at 100 instead of Nickleback?

Poor Girls Aloud. First they get beaten by three Radiohead songs and now this...

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 11:03 (twenty-one years ago)

what about One True Voice?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 11:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Hearsay?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 11:08 (twenty-one years ago)

my preference for the Kurtis Rush might be because I heard it before either of its sources!

as for Soulwax, well, diff'rent strokes... ("Dreadlock Child" is grebt too, tho', I'll happily substitute that for #87)

zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 11:17 (twenty-one years ago)

you people are nuts

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 11:31 (twenty-one years ago)

because we forgot 'Underneath It All'?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 11:32 (twenty-one years ago)

GET OVER IT ALREADY

POLL IS OVER

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 11:33 (twenty-one years ago)

it's never over

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Jess is right. Liberty X - 'Jumpin'' FFS! Sarah Whatmore over J.Lo! Space Cowboy! The constant Girls Aloud masturbation! YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME SICK!!

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 12:01 (twenty-one years ago)

it's never over

ha ha - on my way back from lunch I was thinking about the possibility of a rolling poll, powered by web forms and some kind of database backend.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 12:06 (twenty-one years ago)

argh, Space Cowboy was what i was trying to think of but failing so had to put Linus Loves...all is ruin

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 12:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I would have voted for space cowboy!

fernando, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

One of these days I will start a thread about unknown/underdog acts that I've championed after only one brilliant single.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 14:10 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
WOW

Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Shweet!

However, Mirah's "Cold Cold Water" was actually released as a single and thus has its own album cover:

http://pitchforkmedia.com/record-reviews/images/m/mirah/cold-cold-water.gif

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

also, Röyksopp - Kid A? (#57)

nice job senor embargo.

tricky disco (disco stu), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Very very cool. Most popular tracks albums/points are switched.

W i l l (common_person), Thursday, 7 October 2004 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)

that's beautiful!

pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 7 October 2004 07:24 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
toptoptop top20002004 top20002004tracks top20002004singles

a banana (alanbanana), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
God bless you tom ewing

qbert (Danny), Saturday, 5 February 2005 23:25 (twenty-one years ago)

eight years pass...

^otm

1 P.3. Eternal (roxymuzak), Friday, 19 April 2013 18:07 (twelve years ago)


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