TS: Keith Urban playing on Dick Clarke (now Ryan Seacrest) vs Brookes and Donne playing on Anderson Cooper...
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 1 January 2006 07:14 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyway, this should be used for reference, obviously, or fun. It's best to start at the bottom, perhaps, and answer those questions here. Or there. Or wherever you want:
Rolling 2005 Country Thread
I'm still wondering if any of our Canadian friends have any thoughts about Bocephus King.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link
>The rolling 2004 country thread didn't even start until 2004, so i figured it best to get an early start...
― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link
yeah that anthonyhamilton errs mightily,so not country now
the title track isthe best song on there but itfalls when it should rise
I still love his voiceand his lyrics aren't badbut they've gone downhill
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 1 January 2006 13:52 (nineteen years ago) link
(Dang, three posts into the year, and we've always derailed it from country. It should be pointed out here that Anthony Hamilton's previous CD was one of Matt's '04 c&w faves.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 13:59 (nineteen years ago) link
yeah happy new yearto you and everyonewho posts here. FURTHUR!
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 1 January 2006 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 14:35 (nineteen years ago) link
er, that should read: "The rolling 2004 country thread didn't even start until October 2004..."-- john'n'chicago (econjoh...), February 4th, 2005.
I'm listening to two tracks from Rosanne Cash's new one (a concept album about losing her parents) on her website. Has anybody heard the whole thing? So far, it sounds ok, loose drums on a song about the Cash house on the lake, Levenoisisms more taut than pillowy, and the other song, a very sweet piano ballad, about her mom and dad, "I'll Be Watching You." Chet Flippo says she's been listening to Arvo Part. I hope there are at least a couple rockers--because she's too good a singer to just do ballads.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 1 January 2006 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link
I was wrong toward the end of the other thread in listing Eurodisco as part of Bocephus King's mix; really his extended synth parts are closer to a sort of techno space music, though not without a dance pulse (Joe McCombs compared those parts to Erasure in his AMG review.) Only a couple cuts seem to c&w per se, and those are more western than country -- Canadian cowboy music, maybe. Sometimes the rhythm goes reggae, and one song lilts a lot like "Lola" by the Kinks. The extended instrumental track is a sort of Sergio Leone soundtrack twang thing, and riveting. Really who B.K. most reminds me of maybe Garland Jeffreys (though maybe that's because I can't remember what Hirth Martinez or Andy Fairweather Low or whoever sounded like; I'm sure there's a more accurate precedent than Garland, just can't think of who it is.) Some songs seem to be about drug casualties, and the album clearly has some kind of ambitious overriding concept, too; Joe says it's about corrupt hucksters of religion (it's called *All Children Believe in Heaven*), but following concept albums has never been one of my skills; to me, it's just a bunch of great beautiful songs/tracks/whatever. Would've had a shot at my top ten had I heard it on time. Came out in Canada a year ago; if it comes out here some year, maybe I'll still vote for it.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 1 January 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 2 January 2006 01:05 (nineteen years ago) link
The Carrie Underwood track I really like that I didn't mention toward the end of the '05 thread is "The Night Before (Life Goes On)." And "Jesus Take the Wheel" is indeed a stellar car-crash song about being, um, saved. Edd Hurt signals out the Dianne Warren tracks, which I agree have a certain physical power to them, but I'm not sure if they have much *more* than that.
― xhuxk, Monday, 2 January 2006 04:30 (nineteen years ago) link
simple really. i do no fact, spell, grammar or punctuation checking before posting. nor do i ever re-read what i've typed to ensure that it makes any sense.
― my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Monday, 2 January 2006 05:37 (nineteen years ago) link
Comes out Jan 24th, so I guess I should get on the phone to get an advance.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 2 January 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 2 January 2006 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link
From Geoff Himes at the Nashville Scene:
This is a friendly reminder that the deadline for the Country MusicCritics Poll is Wednesday, January 4, 2006, at 11 p.m. A few of you havealready voted, but I'd like to encourage everyone else to vote as soonas possible. If you have voted, you should have received a confirmationfrom me that I got your ballot.
Several people have asked about eligible recordings, so I am includingBillboard's list of the year's best-selling country albums and singlesas well as the poll's leading vote getters in the early balloting.
BILLBOARD'S BEST-SELLING COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2005:(* released in 2004 or 2003)
1. * Shania Twain: Greatest Hits2. * Rascal Flatts: Feels Like Today3. * Toby Keith: Greatest Hits 24. * Gretchen Wilson: Here for the Party5. * Tim McGraw: Live Like You Were Dying6. George Strait: Fifty #1s7. * Keith Urban: Be Here8. Toby Keith: Honky Tonk University9. * Big & Rich: Horse of a Different Color10. * Sugarland: Twice the Speed of Life11. Kenny Chesney: Be As You Are12. * Kenny Chesney: When the Sun Goes Down13. Faith Hill: Fireflies14. * Alison Krauss & Union Station: Lonely Runs Both Ways15. Various Artists: Totally Country Vol. 416. George Strait: Somewhere Down in Texas17. * Brad Paisley: Mud on the Tires18. Larry the Cable Guy: The Right To Bare Arms19. Gretchen Wilson: All Jacked Up20. Brad Paisley: Time Well Wasted21. LeAnn Rimes: This Woman22. * Blake Shelton: Barn & Grill23. * Brooks & Dunn: Greatest Hits Collection II24. Kenny Chesney: The Road and the Radio25. * Martina McBride: Martina26. Dierks Bentley: Modern Day Drifter27. * Montgomery Gentry: You Do Your Thing28. Trace Adkins: Songs About Me29. Martina McBride: Timeless 30. * Jimmy Buffett: License To Chill31. Jo Dee Messina: Delicious Surprise32. Lee Ann Womack: There's More Where That Came From33. * Toby Keith: Shock'n Y'All34. * Josh Gracin: Josh Gracin35. * Alan Jackson: What I Do36. Brooks & Dunn: Hillbilly Deluxe37. Miranda Lambert: Kerosene38. Van Zant: Get Right with the Man39. * Reba McEntire: Room To Breathe40. * Alan Jackson: Greatest Hits Volume II41. Trisha Yearwood: Jasper County42. * Various Artists: Blue Collar Comedy Hour Rides Again43. * Sara Evans: Restless44. Craig Morgan: My Kind of Livin'45. Cowboy Troy: Loco Motive46. Sara Evans: Real Fine Place47. * Terri Clark: Greatest Hits 1994-200448. Jason Aldean: Jason Aldean49. * Dierks Bentley: Dierks Bentley50. * SheDaisy: Sweet Right Here
BILLBOARD'S BEST-SELLING COUNTRY SINGLES OF 2005:
1. Craig Morgan: That's What I Love About Sunday2. Toby Keith: As Good as I Once Was3. Rascal Flatts: Bless the Broken Road4. Sugarland: Something More5. Rascal Flatts: Fast Cars and Freedom6. Josh Gracin: Nothin' To Lose7. Sugarland: Baby Girl8. Keith Urban: Making Memories of Us9. Faith Hill: Mississippi Girl10. Montgomery Gentry: Gone11. Brad Paisley: Mud on the Tires12. Brooks & Dunn: It's Getting Better All the Time13. Kenny Chesney: Anything But Mine14. Jo Dee Messina: My Give a Damn's Busted15. Keith Urban: You're My Better Half16. Dierks Bentley: Lot of Leavin' To Do17. Montgomery Gentry: Something To Be Proud Of18. Andy Griggs: If Heaven19. Sara Evans: A Real Fine Place To Start20. George Strait: You'll Be There21. Joe Nichols: What's a Guy Gotta Do22. Brooks & Dunn: Play Something Country23. Jamie O'Neal: Somebody's Hero24. Brad Paisley: Alcohol25. Craig Morgan: Redneck Yacht Club26. LeAnn Rimes: Probably Wouldn't Be This Way27. Trace Adkins: Songs About Me28. Blake Shelton: Some Beach29. Keith Urban: Better Life30. Josh Gracin: Stay with Me (Brass Bed)31. LeAnn Rimes: Nothin' 'Bout Love Makes Sense32. Tim McGraw: Do You Want Fries with That33. Gretchen Wilson: Homewrecker34. Alan Jackson: Monday Morning Church35. Lee Ann Womack: I May Hate Myself in the Morning36. Darryl Worley: Awful, Beautiful Life37. Billy Dean: Let Them Be Little38. Tim McGraw: Back When39. SheDaisy: Don't Worry 'Bout a Thing40. Lonestar: You're like Comin' Home41. Gretchen Wilson: When I Think About Cheatin'42. Van Zant: Help Somebody43. Kenny Chesney: Keg in the Close44. Rascal Flatts: Skin (Sarabeth)45. Gary Allan: Best I Ever Had46. Toby Keith: Honky Tonk U47. Blake Shelton: Goodbye Time48. Jason Aldean: Hicktown49. Reba McEntire: He Gets That from Me50. Neal McCoy: Billy's Got His Beer Goggles On
ALBUMS GETTING SUBSTANTIAL SUPPORT IN THE EARLY VOTING (in alphabeticalorder):
Ryan Adams: Jacksonville City NightsGary Allan: Tough All Over Bobby Bare: The Moon Was BlueDierks Bentley: Modern Day DrifterBig & Rich: Comin' to Your CityDeana Carter: The Story of My LifeCaitlin Cary & Thad Cockrell: BegoniasRodney Crowell: The OutsiderRobbie Fulks: Georgia HardMary Gauthier: Mercy NowJimmie Dale Gilmore: Come on BackThe Hacienda Brothers: The Hacienda BrothersMerle Haggard: Chicago WindShooter Jennings: Put the O Back in CountryMiranda Lambert: KerosenePatty Loveless: Dreamin' My DreamsMartina McBride: TimelessDelbert McClinton: The Cost of LivingJames McMurtry: Childish ThingsBrad Paisley: Time Well WastedJohn Prine: Fair & SquareTom Russell: HotwalkerMarty Stuart: Soul's ChapelGretchen Wilson: All Jacked UpLee Ann Womack: There's More Where That Came FromThe Wrights: Down This RoadDwight Yoakam: Blame the VainAdrienne Young: The Art of VirtueNeil Young: Prairie Wind
SINGLES GETTING SUBSTANTIAL SUPPORT IN THE EARLY VOTING (in alphabeticalorder):
Gary Allan: The Best I Ever HadDierks Bentley: Lot of Leavin' To DoCaitlin Cary & Thad Cockrell: Don't Make It BetterRodney Crowell: The Obscenity PrayerRobbie Fulks: Georgia HardMary Gauthier: Mercy NowMerle Haggard: Where's All the FreedomShooter Jennings: Fourth of JulyToby Keith: As Good As I Once WasMiranda Lambert: KerosenePatty Loveless: Keep Your DistanceShelby Lynne: When Johnny Met JuneJames McMurtry: We Can't Make It HereJoe Nichols: Tequila Makes Her Clothes Fall OffBrad Paisley: AlcoholKeith Urban: Makin' Memories of UsGretchen Wilson: I Don't Feel Like Loving You TodayLee Ann Womack: I May Hate Myself in the MorningLee Ann Womack: There's More Where That Came FromThe Wrights: Down This RoadDwight Yoakam: Blame the Vain
REISSUES GETTING SUBSTANTIAL SUPPORT IN THE EARLY VOTING (inalphabetical order):
Terry Allen: Silent MajorityThe Band: A Musical HistoryJune Carter Cash: Keep on the Sunny SideJohnny Cash: The LegendDavid Alan Coe: Penitentiary Blues Emmylou Harris: Heartaches & HighwaysCharlie Poole: You Ain't Talkin' to MeDoug Sahm: The Complete Mercury MastersShel Silverstein: The Best ofSon Volt: RetrospectiveVarious Artists: Good for What Ails YouVarious Artists: Night Train to Nashville, Volume 2
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 02:53 (nineteen years ago) link
From: "Frank Kogan"To: "Geoff Himes"Subject: Re: Country Music Critics Poll BallotDate: Monday, January 02, 2006 7:37 PM
Hi Geoff - I either will or will not send along comments in a couple of days. I enjoyed the agony of having to eliminate great stuff more than ever this year. Obviously I didn't listen to a lot of reissues, and my oddball choice belongs predominantly to some other country than this one, but there was room, so why not? It's an amazing record.
TOP TEN COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2005:
1. Deana Carter -- The Story of My Life2. Miranda Lambert -- Kerosene3. Bobby Bare -- The Moon Was Blue4. Jamie O'Neal -- Brave5. Shooter Jennings -- Put the O Back in Country6. Gary Allan -- Tough All Over7. Lee Ann Womack -- There's More Where that Came From8. The Mighty Jeremiahs -- The Mighty Jeremiahs9. Little Big Town -- The Road to Here10. Dierks Bentley -- Modern Day Drifter
TOP TEN COUNTRY SINGLES OF 2005:
1. Deana Carter -- "The Girl You Left Me For"2. Miranda Lambert -- "Kerosene"3. Shooter Jennings -- "4th of July"4. Miranda Lambert -- "Bring Me Down"5. Dierks Bentley -- "Lot of Leavin' Left to Do"6. Miranda Lambert -- "Me and Charlie Talking"7. Kentucky Headhunters -- "Big Boss Man"8. Jo Dee Messina -- "Delicious Surprise (I Believe It)"9. Toby Keith -- "Big Blue Note"10. Little Big Town -- "Boondocks"
TOP FIVE COUNTRY REISSUES OF 2005:
1. Various Artists -- Guitars of the Golden Triangle: Raw, Rare & Forgotten Archival Recordings from 1970's Shan State. Folk and Pop Music of Myanmar (Burma) Vol. 2(believe it or not, this has a folk-rock, c&w, rockabilly, garage-rock influence)2. Charley Poole and others -- You Ain't Talkin' to Me: Charlie Poole and the Roots of Country Music3. David Allan Coe -- Penitentiary Blues4. --5. --
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST MALE VOCALISTS OF 2005:
1. Gary Allan2. Gene Watson3. Toby Keith
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST FEMALE VOCALISTS OF 2005:
1. Miranda Lambert2. Deana Carter3. Jamie O'Neal
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST LIVE ACTS OF 2005:
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COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST SONGWRITERS OF 2005:
1. Deana Carter2. Miranda Lambert3. Odie Blackmon
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST DUOS, TRIOS OR GROUPS OF 2005:
1. Big & Rich2. Little Big Town3. The Mighty Jeremiahs
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST INSTRUMENTALISTS OF 2005:
1. Deana Carter2. Greg Martin3. James Wright (since you don't have a special spot for producers, I put him here)
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST NEW ACTS OF 2005:
1. Miranda Lambert2. Shooter Jennings3. Shelly Fairchild
COUNTRY MUSIC'S THREE BEST OVERALL ACTS OF 2005:
1. Deana Carter2. Miranda Lambert3. Bobby Bare
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 02:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:19 (nineteen years ago) link
"If only I was the president, I'd paint the white house pink and never have to pay the rent."
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:27 (nineteen years ago) link
I will say that Dierks' being on a major meant there was money to throw at the recording, which may ultimately have been why his record held up for me more than the McQueen or the Maybelles, whose ideas were at least as interesting as Dierks'. Dierks' album had a nice round easy professional motion, and this motion spoke to my body.
xpost (as usual)
The Jeremiah alb is a killer guitar album, too.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:32 (nineteen years ago) link
In general I like music that overspills its container, though for this to work well there has to be a good container in the first place.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 03:45 (nineteen years ago) link
It's like Black Oak Arkansas meets a (white) booty video with the Skynyrd 'turn it up' at the start and a bit of a techno backing thing. I've only seen it as a video and am wondering how it stands up as a song.
― hannah, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link
and yeah, I did kinda like Carrie Underwood's "The Night Before" (that's the one about the girl leaving home, rhymes "Baton Rouge," "LSU" and "in my rearview?), but for me, that song demonstrates where that whole record falls down--every chorus just seemed *too* overblown and mannered to me, always going for the big place-name drama. She kind of gets around that on "I Ain't in Checotah" but it still feels like a couple of songs tacked onto each other to me, it almost works. I think the Diane Warren songs are better than the other ones they found for her, and seem to be about what happens after she gets successful, with the overblown drama a bit more, uhm, aestheticized I guess. "Wasted" isn't bad either, but I would've liked the record even more if they'd tried to lay back just a little bit. But that wouldn't have played into the whole drama of her ascension.xps
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― TRG (TRG), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Huk-L: I hope you give the Bocephus King album a listen. My tastes don't align well with Xhuxk's, either.
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link
woah, xp!! I swear I wrote my entire post before seeing Roy's!!
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 3 January 2006 23:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 00:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 01:44 (nineteen years ago) link
TOP TEN COUNTRY ALBUMS OF 2005:>> 1. Marty Stuart and His Fabulous Superlatives, Souls' Chapel> 2. Gary Allan, Tough All Over> 3. Deana Carter, The Story of My Life> 4. The Del McCoury Band, The Company We Keep> 5. Ezequiel Peña, Nuestra Tradición: La Charreria> 6. Jon Nicholson, A Little Sump'm Sump'm> 7. Marty Stuart, Badlands> 8. Freddy Fender & Flaco Jimenez, Dos Amigos> 9. Dallas Wayne, I'm Your Biggest Fan> 10. Jessi Alexander, Honesuckle Sweet>> TOP TEN COUNTRY SINGLES OF 2005:>> 1. Gary Allan, "Best I've Ever Had"> 2. Jo Dee Messina, "My Give a Damn's Busted"> 3. Dierks Bentley, "Lot of Leavin' to Do"> 4. Intocable, "Aire"> 5. Lee Ann Womack, "I May Hate Myself in the Morning"> 6. Del McCoury Band, "She Can't Burn Me Now"> 7. Grupo Montez de Durango, "Quiero Saber de Ti"> 8. Robbie Fulks, "Georgia Hard"> 9. Bon Jovi, "Have a Nice Day"> 10. Carrie Underwood, "Some Hearts"
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 05:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link
i think he and brucewere more "influential" thanthe eagles (or kiss)
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link
plus xhuxk if he didyou would be 'i hate his voice,it is SO LEADEN'
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link
xp!
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link
Another bet on Womack to win the country poll; voters just visiting country from a rock place and some pure ND sorts (whatever THAT sort would be) vote out of proportion to those who actually follow country closely, in all polls. When somehting scores on both sides of that fence, as Lee Ann's CD does--put your money there. Gary Allan will do well for similar reasons. (I happen to find both albums very deserving, so no arguments here.)
As for the basis of the riff on Lambert's "Kerosene"; you don't have to look further back than Steve Earle's "I Feel Alright "...But she uses it well!
― Barry Mazor (B Mazor), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link
2 1 DIERKS BENTLEY Come A Little Closer 97 93 4 0.8681 1 2 JACK INGRAM Wherever You Are 96 98 -2 0.8678 3 3 CARRIE UNDERWOOD Jesus, Take The Wheel 96 91 5 0.8639 4 4 BILLY CURRINGTON Must Be Doin' Somethin' Right 50 49 1 0.4497 5 5 TOBY KEITH Get Drunk And Be Somebody 48 48 0 0.4289 7 6 RASCAL FLATTS What Hurts The Most 47 42 5 0.4283 6 7 GEORGE STRAIT She Let Herself Go 47 45 2 0.4292 15 8 BON JOVI Who Says You Can't Go Home 33 28 5 0.2968 8 9 LITTLE BIG TOWN Boondocks 32 34 -2 0.2741 9 10 TRENT TOMLINSON Drunker Than Me
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link
That would be me, but I'm actually fairly tepid about the Womack. (And I'm also coming from a disco place, since disco rocks harder than rock; also from a hip-hop place, 'cause hip-hop rocks harder than rock; and a teenpop place, which rocks harder than rock. I guess country rocks harder than rock, too.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link
Yes, I'm definitely coming from a rock place (though as a wee-un I was coming from a folk place; that's 'cause in 1963, folk rocked harder than rock).
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link
Such statements always frighten me, as I foresee this follow-up: "OK. Got the Bare. Will never use you as a basis for album purchases in the future."
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link
You used to love her, but it's all over now?
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:21 (nineteen years ago) link
Xgau told me he thought Lee Ann's album was bland; he'd been a fan of "Dance," I think, however. Has he ever liked her otherwise? I think he's also felt both Lee Ann and Deana Carter are overrated, in general. I don't want to put words in his mouth, though.
Am I the only person, by the way, who has trouble thinking of Lee Ann's album as a "roots" move, or whatever people call it? It sounds so pop; I'm not sure she's had a catchier album. Though yeah, obviously, there are throwback string sounds in the production etc. It doesn't *feel* like a throwback album to me, either way. More importantly, though, critics were sent the vinyl version -- So it definitely *looks* like a throwback album to them, if nothing else.
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Oh wait, here goes:
http://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=lee+ann+womack
http://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=deana+carter
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago) link
and yeah, Frank, I thought your Bare/Watson piece was dead-on, at least you seem to be in agreement with me re Bare's voice and the general winding-down aspect of "Moon Was." anyway, I give Mark Nevers a lot of credit for that record--he also worked on Silver Jews' "Tanglewood Numbers," altho apparently he and Berman had a disagreement and Berman took the project away from Nevers in the final mixing stages or something. I had always really disliked Silver Jews but damned if I don't like the new one, even voted for it this year. But as with Bare, not so much the songs--altho Bare's Shel Silverstein take is fine, probably the best thing on the record--as the overall sound of it, is what I like about Berman's record. which isn't something I wanna listen to all the time, too painful somehow, but I sure admire it in spite of myself, and I feel the same way about Bare to a much lesser extent.
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― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link
Clever and expensive move. I didn't get the vinyl. Can I have yours?
My favorite thing on the Bare is "Everybody's Talkin"--it's not as good as the original, but not much is. Something in the thick vocal dissipation merges so well with the lyrics and melody. When he hits the chorus, the cumulative effect is impossible, unreal.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Hell no, it is beeyootiful!
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― wernert, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:23 (nineteen years ago) link
It's r&b, a lot of it. (But yeah, sure, an old r&b, maybe.) (See also the 100 times I've compared the big hit to "Little Green Apples.") (Which anyway wasn't the kind of country that most neo-trad types embraced, was it? Since when is '70s pop-country considered trad?)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:35 (nineteen years ago) link
I am probably overstating her soul influence, but what the hell. (More likely, she's inspired by '70s c&w that was aware of r&b then.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― wernert, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 20:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link
Mike Ireland is a pretty trad-oriented singer/songwriter who really embraces, even obsesses over, elements of '60s-'70s country-pop, and basically approaches them as synecdoches of country tradition, especially the Sherrillian strings.
I think when you nail countrypolitan the way Lee Ann does on the new record, it's a trad move, just not a typical one.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link
and gosh, soul influences all over the place in '70s and '80s country. even more recent songs like George Jones' "I'll Give You Something to Drink About" show it (I just saw this great clip from some kind of George Jones show that aired in the '90s with him doing this song) like they internalized the bass and drums from Hi Records and added some south-of-border flavor to it all. for that matter, Charlie Rich's Hi/Willie Mitchell sessions are pretty amazing, Hank Williams tunes.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm wondering about Lee Roy Parnell, too, now that I've heard his new one (never heard him before; did he have country hits at one point?)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link
People seem to use "trad country" to mean pre-80s now, a "break" not far from the time, actually, you get the supposedly defining rock/Modern rock break too. Of course, the country sounds of the sixties and seventies were considered by moldy fig types either urbanized sell-outs or bland mistakes then themselves. Even as honky tonk was rejected by lovers of "tradititonal" Acuff and earlier country as too urban, too willing to talk about nasty subjects, and a sell-out when IT came along.
The Womack record largely revives pre-80s sounds. Like Garth never happened. Her music, from the first, referenced and sometimes incorporated honky tonk sounds out of Texas, and much pre-80s twang production and approach, on the ballads especially, I'd say off hand. . The album before this one was simply considered a pop step too far by a lot of people--and that they attenpted to remake LeeAnn's image at the same timemade things worse.
And of course, country music is now and always has been pop music.
This year's record (which for my money, has a very high percentage of strong songs on it), string writing) was a return to the commitment to work in her OWN tradition, essentially. I saw her with a small, tasteful band preview the whole LP live at the Ryman, and the renewed seriousness of COUNTRY intent was unmistakable--at a musical base a lot more sreious than say, Faith Hill scurrying back to get her a "Look; I didn't go Hollywood; I'm just a Mississippi Girl at Heart" shuck. (Womack later did a similar live show on cable--CMT I think.)
At her best monents, I think she's a good a country ballad singer as this generation has; but then, I think Gretchen Wilson is working her way to a strong second in that regard.
No argumento, meanhwile, that the Bobby Bare rceord is generally wonderfu--and lives in a perfect spot between his music and his son's.
(I found this board because Roy Katsen says nice things about it, BTW.And apologize for any of my notorious fast-typing web typos left uncorrected--in advance.)
― Barry Mazor (B Mazor), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:29 (nineteen years ago) link
Faith Hill's most soul music moment is "One" (one of my favorite country singles of the decade.) I kind of hated "Mississippi Girl" until George Smith explained it's basically boogie-rock at heart.
And by the way, welcome, Barry! You should check out that '05 thread, too (and the '04 one, and the No Depression one, and many many more.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Barry Mazor (B Mazor), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago) link
Barry gives the best typos on the planet!
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Plus I did not meanthat Earth Wind and Fire was thesoul ne plus ultra
It was just the truth!And I hear rock but no soulin Toby Keith's voice
Gary Allan, sure,many others. (Plus JessiAlexander, wow!)
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:47 (nineteen years ago) link
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― anthony, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Joe McCombs, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link
When I reviewed Toby I said that that in a better world "That's Not How It Is" would get play on the Urban AC stations. The song seems to split the difference between Isaac Hayes and Robert Cray. It's more an '80s sound than a '70s (though of course Hayes goes back farther than that).
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link
Black-gospel-based r&b-pop not unlike Whitney, Mariah, Toni (which certainly is soul-related and certainly draws on Ray Charles), but actually I hear something countrypolitan in the tone, though I can't put my finger on it, just as there's something countrypolitan in Celine Dion's tone, though whatever it is it was probably derided as one of the things that made countrypolitan "not country."
To confuse matters, I'll point out that "One" has reggaeish touches in the rhythm.
And to confuse matters more, I think that the Whitney-Mariah-Celine-Faith (though not necessarily Toni) thing draws on Streisand and Garland as well as on Charles, not in the sense that some people find Streisand and Garland camp but rather in S-G's showbiz reaching-for-the-sky moments. Welding Charles and Streisand is intriguing to me since you have Charles' deliberately rough and "sincere" melisma and Streisand's shriek-with-the-birds operatics.
This post is written in what one reviewer called "the Chuck Eddy hyphenated style."
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 4 January 2006 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, but the Kingston Trio clobber the Tokens.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 5 January 2006 06:05 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 5 January 2006 06:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 5 January 2006 06:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 5 January 2006 07:32 (nineteen years ago) link
Also, has anyone seen Tanya Tucker lately? I saw her last summer (pre-reality show) and she totally blew my mind (mind you, this was at an outdoor country festival, 2nd day--so I was drunkx2 and had only a hour earlier been charmed by Mel Tellis). She's coming back on a soft-seat/arena tour (soft-seat in my town, arena in the next, go fig) in the spring, and I'm pretty jazzed.
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 5 January 2006 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link
I was reading from this book last night, *Southwest Shuffle: Pioneers of Honky-Tonk, Western Swing, and Country Jazz* by Rich Kienzle. Horrifying chapter about Spade Cooley; I don't know if I'd ever heard the details before about *how* he killed his wife (in front of their 14 year old daughter, who he also threatened if she told anybody) -- totally gruesome, but it makes me curious to pull back out my Spade Cooley album. Which I never liked as much as, say, the Milton Brown and his Brownies or Roy Newman and his Boys or Smokey Wood albums I've got, maybe because (as Kienzle writes) Cooley's innovation was also working California "sweet" music and even classical parts into western swing's varying hillbilly/swing/bebop/blues/polka/Mex/pophybrid -- my guess is, that probably made Cooley less funky and frantic than these guys I like more, but I want to make sure. Jeez, though, what a creepy man. I doubt anybody in my record collection has ever done anything more evil...Anyway, what's really interested me so far in Kienzle's book was how, in the intro, he talks about how, inititally, country music in the 20s was a conscious attempt (idea from record company/radio barn dance execs) to fabricate rural nostalgia, so they at first insisted on keeping instruments that would make the music sound less "pure" (drums, horns, electric guitars) out of it, and that purity pretty much became the standard in the southeast, especially out of urban areas like Nashville and Atlanta -- that is, especially in fundamentalist puritan protestant backwaters throughout the region. But the Catholic Irish/German/ Polish populations in Cincinnati, Chicago, and St. Louis insisted on mixing up country with polkas, hence making it more danceable, and the mix (see above) was even more open-ended in Texas, Oklahoma, and on to Hollywood. So keeping country undanceable, keeping it free of unsavory ethnic influences (including black ones and "urban" ones in general) was in some ways, seemingly, a puritan, even (probably) racist impulse (though I don't think Kienzle uses that word), but also a commercial impulse since the purity was country's inentionally fabricated selling point to begin with. (I.e., purity didn't arise naturally. How this connects to Emmett Miller and Jimmie Rodgers and all the subsequent white guys singing blues in the '20s and '30s I'm not sure - was that stuff *not* considered country then? Or just not saleable? Or was it just really marginal? Or what? Rodgers was obviously a huge star, right?) Anyway, I'm wondering whether one could trace the "pure country" vs. "eclectic country" dichotomy across decades, from then til now. I've always suspected insisting on keeping dance music or pop music out of c&w was a puritan impulse, and this says it was from the start. There's a big story in between.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 5 January 2006 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link
Or maybe not. I'm hearing more of the swing every time I play this thing; it's just really subtle, is all. First song is called "W. Lee O'Daniel and the Light Crust Dough Boys," which band name is clearly a Western Swing reference in and of itself.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 5 January 2006 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link
Not me, but Mazor gives her new concert DVD Tanya Tucker Live at Billy Bob's Texas (Smith Music Group) a thumbs up in the new ND.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 5 January 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link
I'll have to read the "Southwest Shuffle" book, because the diff between "country" in "protestant backwaters" and country in Cinci, St. Louis, Chicago, Texas/Oklahoma and out to California seems to explain, or open up, a lot of stuff that I think is really essential. and today, I think the tension between California-ized ideas of "country" and what Nashville thinks it is--it also seems really basic to me.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 5 January 2006 19:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 5 January 2006 19:18 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:ncex97qjkrjt
http://www.oldblues.net/music/yazoo/yazoorecord/10241-1.jpg
The latter is a great Yazoo comp called "Mr. Charlie's Blues."
On the other hand, were they considered "blues singers" when they actually existed, or only in retrospect? I honestly have no idea.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 5 January 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 5 January 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 6 January 2006 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 6 January 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Another one: Tennessee Ernie Ford, whose proto-rock'n'roll (esp "Sixteen Tons") was huge in the years before Elvis. He was, along with Moon Mullican (who he worked with) one of the country-boogie missing links between western swing and rockabilly; tracks like "Shotgun Boogie" and "Blackberry Boogie" are totally raucous. But he also did really did blues stuff like "Dark as a Dungeon" (about coal-mining, and morbidly appropriate this week, sad to say.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 6 January 2006 20:01 (nineteen years ago) link
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― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 6 January 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 7 January 2006 00:28 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/statusainthood/archives/2006/01/country_music_g_1.php
― xhuxk, Saturday, 7 January 2006 02:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 7 January 2006 02:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 7 January 2006 03:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 7 January 2006 04:52 (nineteen years ago) link
i am in the middle of reading deloria for the book, can you tell me more about his work in relation to pop culture, i only know him as (a radical, important and cogent) theologian.
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 7 January 2006 05:56 (nineteen years ago) link
Edd, I'm not making sense of this passage, especially the statement "blues was really underground before about 1960 or so when Fahey and Calt and those guys rousted Skip James and Son House out of their obscurity." Interestingly enough, a couple of months ago I read Elijah Wald's Escaping the Delta: Robert Johnson and the Invention of the Blues, and the impression I got was that "blues", not "jazz," was the basic name for nearly all black popular music between the wars that featured singers rather than instrumental soloists. So a lot that we might in retrospect be calling black pop or rhythm and blues or jazz was all lumped together under the name "blues"; and the reason so much of this stuff is no longer called blues is that starting with John Hammond, white people tended to narrow the definition of "blues." And (if I am remembering/understanding Wald correctly), the broad usage of the term "blues" by black people carried over into the forties and fifties, so if you were to ask a black person in those decades to name a blues musician, they'd name someone like Louis Jordan or Dinah Washington. Blues was not underground, even if Skip James and Son House (who'd never been stars in the first place) were underground. The people Don mentioned - B.B. King, Nat King Cole, Bobby Blue Bland, et al. - were all called blues singers and were all popular black entertainers, as of course were Big Boy Crudup, Junior Parker, Howlin' Wolf, Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker, Big Joe Turner but also a whole bunch of West Coast guys with smoother styles who've therefore been written out of history. A gentle smooth number like Chuck Berry's "Wee Wee Hours" would have been considered blues every bit as much as something like "Hoochie Coochie Man." So your original question about the difference or nondifference between jazz and blues singing is on the mark, but from the other side, as it were.
As for Teagarden - yes, I've heard him referred to as a jazz guy, but who knows what he was referred to in his time? (And what about Louis Prima?) The fact that Elvis veered more towards Junior Parker and Big Boy Crudup and Kokomo Arnold than towards the Carter Family - whose material probably wasn't altogether different from those blues guys'; didn't they do their own equivalent to "Mystery Train"? - may be why someone may have called him blues, if anybody did.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 7 January 2006 06:59 (nineteen years ago) link
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― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 7 January 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 7 January 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Saturday, 7 January 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 7 January 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 7 January 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link
According to AMG, neither "Strokin'" nor any other Clarence Carter song charted country.
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Sunday, 8 January 2006 01:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 8 January 2006 03:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 8 January 2006 03:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 8 January 2006 05:04 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 8 January 2006 06:35 (nineteen years ago) link
Gotta be the case. Last time I saw her on TV she lives in one of the pit desert towns on California, making it hard to believe she'd care what the Voice publishes unless it was pointed out with the admonition to launch a protest. So please to remove "lock 'n' loll"from that review, y'know.
You'll want to be on the lookout for Copperhead's "Live & Lost." Southern rock band with guitar density equiv to "Big Boss Man" by the Headhunters. (Although the copperhead is the northern Pennsylvania strain of the eastern cottonmouth, or water moccasin, so maybe they should have called themselves, Massassauga, the native American name for it and risked getting picketed.) Listening to it repeatedly convinced me my dislike of bands like the Drive By-Truckers is legitimate. Tunes-wise, it hassome good ones although the titles make you think "dreck."
And it has no relationship with the stoner rock contingent that triesto regularly pass itself off as southern rock or influenced by Skynyrd/ZZ/blah-blah, anything classic rock to get you to listen to the same old horribly bowdlerized Sabbath ribs (and if you think this means I'm talking about The Sword, a contender for most foolish and annoying Texas band I heard late last year, you're right).
Killer version of "Whiskey & Mama" and it's not even the second or third best song on the disc. "Keepin' On" would be great for CMT and all of it would be like Keith Urban if Urban turned up the guitar,added a loud organ and sounded as classic rocker who rides a motorcycle as he looks. Vocals don't sound Urban, they sound Ricky Medlocke.
Funny, these days I'm getting the best sounds off the frustrated and desperate vanity pressings distributed by CD Baby. If you can sift them on-line, not at CD Baby proper [and I'm not giving away my patented trade secret on how to do it, sorry, although ask private] there are surprises surprisingly easy to find. Which you can't locate via Google or by reading webzines, although -after- you find them, you can track down one or two reviews, almost always on web-only publications in Europe in foreign languages where they are still big on US classic rock. [Thanks Google "translate this page" tab.]
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 8 January 2006 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link
I think a lot of DJs were making the connections as soon as they heard the rockabilies' records; likewise some of the less up-tight press. Guralnick cites a Billboard review of "Good Rockin' Tonight" from Fall 1954: "Elvis Presley proves again that he is a sock new singer with his performances on these two oldies. His style is both country and r.&b. and he can appeal to pop." And another Billboard review from December 1954: "...the hottest piece of merchandise on the...Louisiana Hayride at the moment is Elvis Presley, the youngster with the hillbilly blues beat." Not exactly visionary criticism but kinda accurate. (We should collectively vow to reintroduce the adjective "sock" to the rock crit lexicon.)
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 8 January 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link
if Pete Holsapplewas really Paul Westerberg,and was on steroids
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 8 January 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 8 January 2006 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 8 January 2006 22:14 (nineteen years ago) link
so, saw the Townes Van Zandt documentary last night. very sad, very troubling. you get the sense that VZ was this still figure around which the normal world whirled, and in everything he said there was this catch, this pause, before he smiled in the most fatalistic way possible. yet I found him very funny indeed, and I found myself admiring the way he simply didn't seem to care about fame, money, backup singers...and although I admire Guy Clark's music, I have to say that if there's an award for "enabler," it seems to me Guy Clark might well get it, as he lived with Van Zandt and seemed to idolize him beyond all reason. the creepiest moments came with Nashville DJ Ralph Emery, who was, uh, taken aback a bit by Townes. and it was even creepier when VZ played his big hit "Pancho and Lefty" on some Nashville Now TV show complete with goopy backup singers and band; he sounded neutered, out of it. but when Townes played Lightnin' Hopkins he seemed most himself, to my ears, so maybe the thing is that he was really a bluesman as well as a songwriter's songwriter...I haven't totally decided yet just how great a songwriter he was, some of what he did falls into my blind spots, but he was damned good, if not "the world's greatest songwriter" (I mean, Randy Newman?). so, fine film, even though it seemed to lay Townes's later problems on electroshock therapy and seemed to gloss over any other tendencies by saying that "Townes was the kind of kid you find in every family who could get anyway with anything, and who didn't care about all his advantages."
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 9 January 2006 01:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 9 January 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 9 January 2006 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 9 January 2006 18:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 9 January 2006 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link
http://home.comcast.net/~eddycee28/
― xhuxk, Monday, 9 January 2006 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 9 January 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link
no, I don't remember that it did. it seemed a bit hazy and incomplete on his family history, actually. and it seemed to gloss over the conflict over the rights to his music (between Eggers and his family), too.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 01:17 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 10 January 2006 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Tuesday, 10 January 2006 05:42 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 06:15 (nineteen years ago) link
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― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 11 January 2006 06:42 (nineteen years ago) link
"Sunlight Breaks In" and "Just Like Me" (off *Tracks* by Uncle Billy's Smokehouse from I guess Worcester, Mass, or thereabouts) are like Guns N Roses crossed with Alice In Chains doing country-rock fit for CMT; the guy's high register actually pulls off its Axl attempts. (The rest of the album is excellent too, but more hard rock than c&w.)
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Josh Turner is not an alt-country guy; he projects his voice, and it's a warm booming baritone, I guess (inasmuch as I know how to identify "baritone"). Still not sure how much I like it. He did that long black train song last year that lotsa people loved but which, for me, was more like "lookit me I'm doing a long black train song, how dark is that, huh?" It was okay, though. So's his new album that's coming out, *Your Man,* or at least the 9 songs I've listened to so far --well, not all of them, not even most of them. But "No Rush" is a truly sexy lover-with-a-slow-hand song that reminds me that the Pointer Sisters had their country moments too (not that it remotely sounds like them). And there a song about buying "Loretta Lynn's Lincoln" that drops lots of classic country names that, okay, well, it sort of annoyed me so far I guess. And one called "White Noise" that's a duet with some familiar country voice from the '80s (John Anderson, maybe? Or maybe not) who isn't mentioned on my advance CD; the idea is that country music is "white noise" but one line's a disclaimer about how this ain't a question of black and white, it's about Johnny Cash and Charlie Pride, so I have no idea what the "white" part IS supposed to mean. And there's another duet with some way older country guy (Ralph Stanley, maybe? these are totally wild guesses mind you) called "Me and God"; first line argues that anything's possible with me and God, but at first I swore Josh was saying anything was possible with a MEAN God, which would of course be a much scarier yet more interesting idea, but no dice. So, um....at least ONE good song, the "No Rush" one. But maybe more. (And I am gonna be embarrassed when I figure out who I confused with John Anderson....okay, I'll check the internet: Gulp, it IS John Anderson; Josh co-wrote it with him -- I passed the blindfold test, yay! And "Me And God" IS Ralph Stanley!! I'm shocked I got those right.) -- xhuxk (xedd...), December 23rd, 2005.
New Josh Turner winds down to a song about gravity that's sadly more metaphorical than scientific followed by the rote "Way Down South" that ends with some nice jaunty picking of "Dixie". Just remembered there was also an earlier tune about feeling out of place in the big city. If this was an *Entertaiment Weekly* review, I'd give it a B.
-- xhuxk (xedd...), December 23rd, 2005.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 11 January 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago) link
Actually, you kind of CAN sift through bands at CD Baby proper. Searching by subgenre seems to pull up a lot of chaff (though some of it inevitably looks interesting), but there's one search engine function where you can look for bands who theoretically sound like, oh, "Montgomery Gentry" or "Blackfoot" or "Johnny Taylor" or "Opeth" or "Teena Marie" or "Rick Springfield" or whoever else you plug in, and this links to their websites...I just started doing it in the past couple days, and it gets addictive. Will reveal results when I have some.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 12 January 2006 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 12 January 2006 13:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 12 January 2006 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link
(They are also what Sufjans Stevens's Michigan album should've been.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 12 January 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 12 January 2006 14:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 12 January 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago) link
Pedant alert: They were a one-hit wonder, but not with that song. (It was never a commercial single and so never charted.) They followed it up with the Top 20 "Out of My Head," a disposable ballad that is to them what "Look What You've Done" is to Jet. They later did some stuff I really liked but nothing that clicked like "The Way."
P.S. Western PA is an underrated source for indie music today imho.
― Joe McCombs, Thursday, 12 January 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 12 January 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago) link
The numbers are fundamentally astonishing. They come in loads -- 200 at least per week, often as many as 800 some, through the end of the year as the entire catalog is moved on-line for download. Very few of these acts, thousands, get even the slightest mention in even the fringes of the media. Since so many are classic rock and the genres that the writing class likes to shun, it's predictable. Plus these are often bands so clueless they don't even know how to market to the urban slum genre pubs.
But that's where most of my good new listens to are coming from in the new year so far. Electric Boogie Dawgs, for instance, from California, have a name so terrible it's good (like Billie's Smokehouse), but their album is sure a lot better than the gobbler just issued by the Shack-Shakers. And I did like the latter's a year ago.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 12 January 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyway, one of the fellows is going out with a girl and her pop is a local country artist. He's so sincere and earnest he instantly inspires nausea. The kid plays electric guitar and does freeform emo Xtian metal which I couldn't stand either but might be someone else's bag if he got on Myspace or something. Heck, maybe he is in on Myspace.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 12 January 2006 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link
I saw the first episode of "Country Boys.* Not sure if that one kid's student newspaper ever came out. Wonder how long it'll take for the other kid's goofy christ-metal song to inspire a wiseass cover of it.
elieen carey *hearts of time* on now. nashville-based, i think, but she put out the CD herself apparently. first two songs are pop-country backed by stones music, very mellencamp. and a couple of the slower songs that come later ("someone like you," "blue collar man" --nope, not a styx or BTO cover, but that's okay) are just as good.
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― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 13 January 2006 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link
It's a compilation from Loose Music a UK alt-country label that seems to lurve Canada, lots of covers, which gives the whole thing a nice sense of novelty. Track by track thoughts:
1. Roger Dean Young & The Tin Cup – Stettler - I'm a big RDY & TTP fan, so I was rilly excited to hear this, and it's okay, but it's just a noisy instro, and what I like most is RDY's voice & lyrics.2. Old Reliable - No Unmaking - Very trad, very earnest.3. Steve Ketchen & The Kensington Hillbillies - Straight To Hell - More trad, tradder than trad when the "How's about an English jig and reel" line hits. 4. Two Gallants - Nothing To You - Who are these guys? This is a great song, very raw and piercing, like old Mtn Gts. "I'm gay as a choirboy for you"5. The Only Children - Sky Begins To Storm - Not sure which song this is.6. Justin Rutledge & The Junction Forty - Too Sober To Sleep - Ryan Adams-ish lament-rock, sure to be a crowd pleaser, in as much as downer songs can be crowd pleasers (which is not too rare in alt-country).7. Augie March - Little Wonder - Another song I'm not sure about.8. By The Fireside - Battle Fields - Hey, wow. Is this a cover? It sounds like it might be a Wall-era Pink Floyd song, only with emotions and stuff. Fantastic dreamy soundscapery.9. The Idaho Falls - Country Song - V. good song, gets to why people like music, but doesn't dwell on it.10. Charlemagne - Angel Of The Morning - I love Charley Pride, and I love dreamy atmospherics in my alt-country, so this is a winner. Sounds like it was always supposed to be a psychedelic song.11. Jim Bryson & Jim Cuddy - Somewhere Else - Best Jim Bryson I've heard in a long time, but maybe that's the Jim Cuddy part? Truth be told, I didn't even know Cuddy (Blue Rodeo) was on the track until I cut and pasted the tracklist from Amazon.12. Langhorne Slim - Loretta Lee Jones - Dizzy rave-up, Modest Mousish/Buddy Holly bluegrass.13. The Pink Mountaintops - Sweet ’69 - Not country, not even alt-country, Stooges fump-a-whomp. Good fun.14. Ox – Surrender - Mmmmm, Ox is v. Oldhammish, and so this is Palace covering Cheap Trick. As it was always meant to be.15. Megan Reilly - On A Plane - Decent.16. Anders Parker - Feel The Same - Throaty, earnest. Skip forward.17. Jason Molina - Division St. Girl - Even though Molina's getting to be a really good singer, and his voice is pretty interesting, it's not a very interesting song.18. Elephant Micah - Dream Feedback - Dino Jr-ish feedback country that's v. pleasing in this song.19. Blood Meridian - Soldiers Of Christ - I don't know about this one. A little too boiler-plate a/country.20. The Parkas - Start Your Own Country - I like them Parkas, and this one of their best songs, even though there's nothing about picking fights, unless you count starting wars between nations, which they're only really talking about metaphorically anyway. Still, good metaphor, great harmonies.
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 13 January 2006 18:07 (nineteen years ago) link
http://cdbaby.com/cd/riverside
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― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 14 January 2006 13:03 (nineteen years ago) link
I suck at predicting things such as commercial viability (so is Sony-Monument, apparently, who dropped these people several years ago and now gets to watch as the indie Equity label harvests the lettuce), but my guess is that if (1) "Mean Streak" is chosen as a single, and (2) some adult contemporary or hot AC station takes a chance on it, these guys go platinum or double and their music becomes ubiquitous.
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― my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Sunday, 15 January 2006 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link
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― my name is john. i reside in chicago. (frankE), Sunday, 15 January 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link
An indie hipster countrypolitan (between inverted commas no doubt) revival, if that's what Edd's post about L.A. is predicting above, sounds like potentially the most annoying thing since the indie hipster Esquivel revival of the mid '90s, but I will keep my ears open and try my damnedest to stay awake, I promise. I guess the indie hipsters like how unmacho and emo countrypolitan is? And I guess some people liked that album last year by Bonnie Prince Billy or whatever his name is. And didn't Ween make a "countypolitan" album once? God I hate that kinda shtick. Don't hate countrypolitan, but there are many things I like more, I gotta say. Still, definitely a subject for future research. Been listening to this new Time Life compilation CD *Classic Country: Sweet Country Ballads,* and it seems like a nice little overview of the subgenre; I already knew and liked the Eddy Arnold, Ray Price, Charlie Rich, Glen Campbell, Bobby Bare, Don Gibson, Skeeter Davis, and Bobby Goldsboro tracks (make the world go away for the good times behind closed doors by the time i get to phoenix detroit city i can't stop loving you the end of the world honey), but for a bunch of those artists it's the only song I know by them, and the only one of them I've ever investigated in detail is Glen Campbell, who had tons of hits I love. I used to own a couple Charlie Rich LPs; stupid of me to get rid of them. Never have connected with Charlie Pride, whose "I Can't Believe You Stopped Loving Me" is on here; probably my loss. Bobby Goldsboro had better hits than "Honey" (i.e., "The Straight Life," hey what I can say, I like crackers and beer) but I had no idea he was ever considered country, if he in fact ever was. Favorite track I don't recall hearing before so far: "Abeline" by George Hamilton IV. Didn't know he was country, either. Dates range from 1958 to 1970; when did "countrypolitan" (the sound and/or word, which Time Life doesn't use in its title by the way) actually start?
Either way, I'm afraid right now I'd rather listen to the the Little Big Town album, which is more pop than earthy no matter what Don thinks. Sounds better every time I listen; if I did my Nasvhille Scene list over again, I'd definitely list it a few slots higher than #10; possibly even as high as #3. Anyway, Frank: Song credits in the CD sleeve (with copyrights ranging from 2002 for "Stay" -- wait, is that cover? authors don't seem to be people in the band -- to 2005 for most of the rest) don't seem to list lead singers, for some reason; just (session, I assume?) musicians. (Also, Frank, you seemed to say above that they'd been dropped from Sony; was there an earlier album? Or did Sony never put one out?) The slush guy singing in both "Bring it On Home" and "Stay" DOES sound more Eagles than Fleetwood Mac to me --actually, he sounds a lot like Don Henley, and yeah, these are definitely a couple of the lesser tracks, as is "Fine With Me", the melody of which starts out reminding me of some Lionel Richie countryish song (ie "Stuck on You" or "Sail On" or maybe "Easy" I guess) then turns into something else obvious I can't out my finger on. The tracks emphasizing girl voices are definitely better than the tracks without them. But it's not just the harmonies that remind me of Fleetwood Mac - it's also some of the melodies, and I swear there's Lindsey Buckinghamness in some of the guitar parts. One day maybe I'll sit down and take notes and pinpoint where. (Also, it turns out the one line in "Mean Streak" - still my favorite track - I coudn't pinpoint on the '05 thread is "like a frat boy at Hell Week." I can definitely see these people appealing to a frat/jam audience, if such a crowd heard them; they're for sure more rock than Nickel Creek, who I get the idea said crowd already likes.) (Though they're not as earthy as NC, Don! And maybe that would bug the fratters?)
Finally, Povertyneck Hillbillies again: They sent a DVD as well as their CD, and it's quite entertaining, especially the documentary about them coming together in Western Pennsy and winding up with the biggest song on Pittsburgh's "Froggy" commercial country station a summer or two ago off a self-released CD they sold from the back of their tour bus; supposedly, in Pittsburgh, according to a radio station guy on the DVD, they're as big as Montgomery Gentry or Alan Jackson or Kenny Chesney, and the live shows on the DVD seemed to kinda confirm that, though sometimes it was hard to tell to what extent this was staged. I prefer to think of them as a musical equivalent of minor league baseball, which is a pretty cool idea when you think about it. Said local hit is the superdupercatchy love-the-one-you're-with/you're-all-I've-got-tonight "Mr. Right Now" (as in I may not be Mr. Right but I'm Mr. Right Now), and it's more loveable on the DVD than on the CD, as is "Hillbilly State of Mind," since that one shows just about everybody in the audience (including all the pretty girls and a couple less pretty ones who were apparently all urged to stand in the front row during filming plus two little girls in cowboy hats the band brings on stage) doing this completely silly hand-jive dance where they make deer antlers with their hands and show the corn growing up and pump their fists in the air and stuff. DVD has a couple songs that aren't on the CD as well, and the concert on it ends with a nice healthy guitar solo at the end of "Any Road." Singer wears a snazzy black cowboy shirt with a crucifix-shaped cross on either side of its chest, but there's no other Christian imagery I notice. A whole lot of off-roading, fishing, and clay pigeon shooting, though.
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 January 2006 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Monday, 16 January 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link
I was wondering the same thing this weekend. David Cantwell, who is working on a book about the Nashville Sound (tentatively called Make the World Go Away), isn't sure either, but the term probably dates from the '50s, though it's since been used mostly for the '70s, which is kinda interesting. I'm guessing Billboard put it into circulation but can't find a ref.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 16 January 2006 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link
Playing new Shooter Jennings album, *Electric Rodeo* now. Sounds great, though sometimes he still sings like Kid Rock. Doubt there's a song I'll love as much as "4th of July," but overall, I'm thinking right away that it's the way more consistent album of the two. The title/opening track and "Bad Magick" are as heavy metal as anything on the debut. Also like the (non Nazareth) hangover head-holder "Hair of the Dog," the cocaine lament "Little White Lines" (where you hear Shooter sniff in the middle and a cop stops him and he seems to refuse a breathalizer then the cop asks him the shave something but he never says what), "Alligator Chomp (The Ballad of Martin Luther Frog Jr") (total Jerry Reed "Amos Moses" swamp-funk rap-neck racial allegory); and at least the hoedown choo-choo chug opening of "Manifesto No. 2" (where he also catches his woman with another man so he shoots her with a shotgun) and the country jazz conclusion of "(The) Living Proof" (dumb question, but is that his daddy's song? Seems familiar, but I'm no Waylon expert.) Also, plenty of winding-road Allmans boogie, and a few goofy lines in "Aviators" (one of a couple Kid-Rock style clumsy ballads) where he takes a date to waffle house and he shoots her dog and slashes her dad's tires but she just don't understand his strange kind of wit.
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 January 2006 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Tom Keifer hair-metal CMT ballad I mean (hence its inclusion on this thread.)
Related question: Did Bon Jovi's "Wanted Dead or Alive" sound at all country or southern rock in 1988? If so, I sure never noticed. But Shooter seems to swipe its riff in one of the Allmansy tracks on the new album, and a couple country acts (Montgomery Gentry and Chris Cagle) have covered it. So is it possible that it always sounded Southern rock, and nobody noticed at the time? Or did the cowboy on steel horse and stuff just inspire country people to reinvent it, the way, say, early '80s punks claimed and reinvented "Time Has Come Today" by the Chambers Brothers, and mid '60s punks claimed and reinvented "Louie Louie" and "Hey Joe"? Either way, it's a clear influence on the modern CMT sound.
― xhuxk, Monday, 16 January 2006 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Dan (The Real Cowboys) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:29 (nineteen years ago) link
ah, the old "what does 'rocking' mean" debate again. shooter definitely has louder guitars, but if we're talking about sheer momentum and/or fuck-the-world attitude this might be an interesting debate.
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 16 January 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 16 January 2006 20:59 (nineteen years ago) link
The first pop song I ever loved. 1963. Gorgeous. Sad. Cited birds. They were singing. But they shouldn't have been.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link
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― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 00:59 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 01:49 (nineteen years ago) link
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― don, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 07:03 (nineteen years ago) link
My favorite song so far in 2006 is "Hair of the Dog" by Shooter Jennings, about him waking up after drinking too much alchohol. My second favorite song on his new album so far is "Little White Lines," which is about him waking up after snorting too much cocaine (and what the cop asks him to shave is his face, apparently), and which has a pretty darn heavy riff, it turns out - definitely seems to rock harder than "Bad Magick," which needs more tune to go with its heaviosity; may well rock harder than the title track as well. Some of the tracks go into totally blatant funk breaks in the middle, too. Definitely a hard rocking Southern boogie album, and a real good one.
Finally kinda made peace with Bobby Bare's *The Moon Was Blue* this morning; after months, I've decided I'll keep the dang thing, though I still find some parts (e.g., "Are You Sincere" where I'm still not sure that "Bobby Bobby Bobby" is what those canned backup singers are chanting and the production of which sounds all scuzzy for no reason I can fathom, the Stereolab-produce-Langley Schools junk of "Fellow Travelers") unbearably kitschy. The cover songs are almost all better than the non-covers. Didn't notice til now that "Shine On Harvest Moon" is basically Western Swing. And "Am I That Easy to Forget" has incidental sounds as weird the ones in "Everybody's Talkin'" (which is a great track), or pretty close to it. And yeah, Bobby may well sing "Ballad of Lucy Jordan" better than Marianne Faithful did.
I talked about James McMurtry's 2005 album, which I guess I'll also keep with reservations, on that No Depression thread. Just wannna add here that, when Joe Ely's voice replaces McMurtry's fairly deadassed one in "Slew Foot," the thing somehow sounds way more alive all of a sudden. Go figure. (I hadn't even noticed on the album cover he was on there, then I heard him, and thought "holy shit, that's Joe Ely.")
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link
Both of whom, at least when they recited prose about popular kids and detachable penises, were probably funnier. So no, really probably NOT worthy. (Not that funniness is all I care about. And it does occur to me that titles like "Aftermath USA" and "A World Of Hurt" might mean this CD's supposed to be about current events or something, somehow.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link
http://www.mcsweeneys.net/links/monologues/20ryanadams.html
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link
I think they're all covers.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:04 (nineteen years ago) link
Was a self-titled album on Sony/Monument. It flopped.
But it's not just the harmonies that remind me of Fleetwood Mac - it's also some of the melodies, and I swear there's Lindsey Buckinghamness in some of the guitar parts. One day maybe I'll sit down and take notes and pinpoint where.
The circular return-to-drone motion on "Bones" and the song's first blast of vocal harmony are both right out of "The Chain," though this emphasizes to me how much more intense "The Chain" and "Gold Dust Woman" and "Go Your Own Way" and "Dreams" are than anything on The Road to Here. That said, those four Rumours tracks were as intense as anything else from 1977 that wasn't "I Feel Love" or "Anarchy in the U.K." (or "Bodies" or "EMI" or "God Save the Queen"). (That I can think of off-hand.) ("Complete Control" was 1978, wasn't it?) So this is not to denigrate Little Big Town too much, but there is something missing, lack of a killer instinct, so far. But I'm enjoying the heck out of the album anyway, if not the hell, and I like "Boondocks" a lot even when its pandering to the prime audience's insecurities makes me say "Damn their lies."
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, this was a good example of the comic overloading of preposterous metaphor that I was praising last week:
Cold as a concreteTough as a back streetLike a fratboy in hell weekBabe with a mean streak
Also:
Tough as a dry creekSharp as a hawk's beakComin' fast as a stampedeBabe, you got a mean streak
Probably deserves inclusion on The Rough Guide to Co-Dependent Relationships Vol. 2. "How to have fun as the victim in an abusive relationship. A special report at 11:00."
This is the song that has the line, "Hey what's the deal with your Jeckyl and Hyde?" Also, if I heard correctly, they go "Hot as my Harley/Burns like a dry heave." Whew! She's really up against it!
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 19:37 (nineteen years ago) link
Oops. Guess I should've said: The covers of songs I heard before are almost all better than the covers of songs I didn't hear before.
So the high-voiced Drive By Trucker is Patterson Hood, right? At least that's what Xgau tells me. Only place on the new one where his Neil Young and Crazy Horse beauty really hits a dust-storm of paydirt, to my ears, is "A Blessing and A Curse." I've decided not to vouch for "Goodbye," which he might not even sing, or "A World Of Hurt." "Daylight" seems to be an awful attempt at Radiohead (via My Morning Jacket?) style nothingness; "Wednesday" is rote bland alt-country; "Space City" another bore. "Gravity's Gone" is a passable second Stones rip (also mentions coke I think -- actually, seems to be about some sort of high-fallutin schmooze party), but not nearly up to the level of "Aftermath USA," probably the only great cut on here (though I reserve the right to change my mind about any of this).
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link
Bon Jovi "Have a Nice Day." Doesn't seem particularly country to me, though I wouldn't mind if country did drift in this direction, since this is far better than "You Can't Go Home," and more Shanksy, since this one he co-wrote as well as co-produced. I think - or hope - the title is meant sarcastically, though it will be taken straight by the listening audience, since most people will just ride with this sound and not register irony. The only line I jotted was "We're livin' in the broken home of hopes and dreams." Uh, John/Jon, perhaps you need to call on Ashlee, who can write this family-drama stuff for reals, with feeling (but in that case, you might as well have her sing it).
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:36 (nineteen years ago) link
Newsflash: eventually the bowls of cocaine start to work against you. When he gets his nose out of the party favors, Patterson is the high voice singer. I've only heard that Feb 14th track, which I thought was OK but kind of unrealized as southern fried power pop, and I like southern fried power pop.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:37 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, I'm kinda amazed that hasn't happened to Shooter yet!
Avett Brothers *Four Thieves Gone: The Robbinsville Sessions* makes me sick to my stomach. What is it, "old timey" music for Barenaked Ladies and Moxy Fruvous fans or something? Or maybe the singer got drunk and is wearing a lampshade on his voice. God this thing sucks.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link
Let's see, according to the bio on his Webpage, "Before he even graduated [high school], he was in pop queen Teena Marie's band." Then he did whatever he did, which included producing "Breathe" for Melissa Etheridge (I don't even think I've heard this song, but my general feeling is that Melissa oversings songs to their ultimate demise), and from there started writing, playing, producing for a whole lot of others, including co-writing co-producing "Steve McQueen" for Sheryl Crow, a song that is nice but ho-hum in comparison to most of what she'd done previously. Anwyay, songs he's written or produced that one could vaguely call country-related include SheDaisy's "Come Home Soon" and Stevie Nicks' "Trouble in Shangri-La" (which I used to own and right now can't recall, so I don't know how country it is, but it's, you know, Stevie), and maybe can include Kelly Clarkson's "Breakaway," which could have been country if it hadn't already been something else. And - now this is where Shanks starts to have a serious country impact - Keith Urban's "Somebody Like You," which lived at number one on the country charts for a couple of months in 2002. Shanks wrote but did not produce it; being Urban's, it's done with an easy touch. Just skips along, rides a nice breeze, probably a lot harder to do well than it appears, but only catches fire for me during Keith's guitar rave-up at the end (which I suspect most radio listeners didn't get a chance to hear). But then, it's not trying to catch fire. It's way more palatable than most sap in the pop country range. Nice. But it has little to do with why I'm now trying to find out whatever I can about Shanks. The why is "Fly" by Hilary Duff, which would have been my single of the year in 2004 if I'd been giving Duff much attention; "La La" by Ashlee Simpson, which was my number three this year and would have been number one if Shanks and Simpson hadn't tried too hard to make it sound tough; and a whole bunch more: all of the crucial Ashlee tracks, and the woman has yet to put out a bad or merely so-so single; "First" and the other tracks that broke Lohan onto the radio; "Come Clean," Duff's first great single; and back in 2001, Michelle Branch's "Everywhere," which preceded Pink's "Don't Let Me Get Me"* and Avril Lavigne's "Complicated" onto the airwaves and helped to set a pattern: personal (or personal-seeming) lyrics but with, no matter how pensive the rest of the song, a chorus that wails. So far Shanks seems to do best with the young women (and when Kara DioGuardi is on board as one of his co-writers); he doesn't have just one sound. He's gotten delicate beauty from Hilary and hot fire from Ashlee. I'm not sure what to make of his Bon Jovi involvement. I'd call "Have a Nice Day" below-average for a Shanks single, but Shanks has done worse. He's still a subject for further research.
(*On his Webpage he gives himself credit for "additional production" on Pink's "Don't Let Me Get Me," but this is not listed on the album notes, which credit Dallas Austin.)
Shanks-related songs I haven't so far heard include Fleetwood Mac's "Peacekeeper," Vertical Horizon's "I'm Still Here," Alanis Morissette's "Everything."
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 17 January 2006 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 17 January 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago) link
http://gritz.net/
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 00:15 (nineteen years ago) link
but their new recordis quite fun and bluegrass-popI am in favor
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 01:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago) link
*e.g. The opener is a bluegrass hoedown about a hangover ("Poison / Get thee out of me") that calls puke and/or the runs "bubblin' crude", the closer is another hangover song called "Let Jesus Make You Breakfast"; the midtempo AAA-friendly boogie is surprisingly upbeat in tone considering it's about the framing and incarceration of Leonard Peltier; the gospel song with the jordanaires is actually predicting failure ("I know the devil in me will do me in"); etc. I'm in heavy favor of this.
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link
Yes, this is wrong. Cantrell is country.
― TRG (TRG), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link
and I dunno, Cantrell is kind of a folkie, but she covers Wynn Stewart honky-tonk stuff. but I think she'd sell better out of the folk section, or the Americana section, altho at Grimey's here she's right in with Can and Captain Beefheart.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link
Albums
1. Lee Ann Womack: There’s More Where That Came From (MCA)2. Rodney Crowell: The Outsider (Columbia)3. Robbie Fulks: Georgia Hard (Yep Roc)4. Marty Stuart & the Fabulous Superlatives: Souls’ Chapel (Superlatone/Universal South)5. Gary Allan: Tough All Over (MCA)6. Brad Paisley: Time Well Wasted (Arista)7. Dwight Yoakam: Blame the Vain (New West)8. Mary Gauthier: Mercy Now (Lost Highway)9. Patty Loveless: Dreamin’ My Dreams (Epic)10. Miranda Lambert: Kerosene (Epic)11. Bobby Bare: The Moon Was Blue (Dualtone)12. Dierks Bentley: Modern Day Drifter (Capitol)13. Martina McBride: Timeless (RCA)14. Neil Young: Prairie Wind (Reprise)15. Gretchen Wilson: All Jacked Up (Epic) 16. Caitlin Cary & Thad Cockrell: Begonias (Yep Roc)17. James McMurtry: Childish Things (Compadre)18. Merle Haggard: Chicago Wind (Capitol)19. John Prine: Fair & Square (Oh Boy)20. Deana Carter: The Story of My Life (Vanguard)21. Trisha Yearwood: Jasper County (MCA)22. Jimmie Dale Gilmore: Come on Back (Rounder)23. Nickel Creek: Why Should the Fire Die (Sugar Hill)24. Bobby Pinson: Man Like Me (RCA)25. Shooter Jennings: Put the O Back in Country (Universal South)
Singles
1. Lee Ann Womack: “I May Hate Myself in the Morning”2. Brad Paisley: “Alcohol”3. Miranda Lambert: “Kerosene”4. Dierks Bentley: “Lot of Leavin’ Left to Do”5. Gary Allan: “Best I Ever Had”6. Shooter Jennings: “4th of July”7. Patty Loveless: “Keep Your Distance”8. Toby Keith: “As Good as I Once Was”9. Mary Gauthier: “Mercy Now”10. Trisha Yearwood: “Georgia Rain”11. James McMurtry: “We Can’t Make It Here”12. Gretchen Wilson: “I Don’t Feel Like Loving You Today”13. Dwight Yoakam: “Blame the Vain”14. Rodney Crowell: “The Obscenity Prayer”15. Gretchen Wilson: “All Jacked Up”16. Robbie Fulks: “Georgia Hard”17. Keith Urban: “Making Memories of Us”18. Bobby Pinson: “Don’t Ask Me How I Know”19. Merle Haggard: “Where’s All the Freedom”20. Sara Evans: “A Real Fine Place to Start”
Reissues
1. Charlie Poole: You Ain’t Talkin’ to Me (Columbia/Legacy)2. Johnny Cash: The Legend (Columbia/Legacy)3. June Carter Cash: Keep on the Sunny Side (Columbia/Legacy)4. David Allan Coe: Penitentiary Blues (Hacktone)5. The Band: A Musical History (Capitol)6. Emmylou Harris: Heartaches & Highways: The Very Best of Emmylou Harris (Warner Bros./Reprise/Rhino)7. Doug Sahm & the Sir Douglas Quintet: The Complete Mercury Recordings (Hip-O Select)8. Various Artists: Good for What Ails You: Music of the Medicine Shows, 1926-1937 (Old Hat)9. Rosanne Cash: Seven Year Ache (Columbia/Legacy)10. Shel Silverstein: The Best of Shel Silverstein: His Words, His Songs, His Friends (Columbia/Legacy)
Artists of the Year
1. Lee Ann Womack2. Marty Stuart3. Brad Paisley4. Alison Krauss & Union Station5. Rodney Crowell6. Keith Urban7. Gary Allan8. Gretchen Wilson9. Dierks Bentley10. Patty Loveless
Male Vocalists
1. Gary Allan2. Dwight Yoakam3. Marty Stuart4. Brad Paisley5. Merle Haggard6. Dierks Bentley7. Alan Jackson8. Robbie Fulks9. George Strait10. Rodney Crowell
Female Vocalists
1. Lee Ann Womack2. Gretchen Wilson3. Patty Loveless4. Martina McBride5. Trisha Yearwood6. Alison Krauss7. Miranda Lambert8. Sara Evans9. Mary Gauthier10: (tie) Shelby Lynne / Caitlin Cary
Live Acts
1. Keith Urban2. Alison Krauss & Union Station3. Marty Stuart4. Brad Paisley5. Big & Rich
Duos and Groups
1. Big & Rich2. Caitlin Cary & Thad Cockrell3. Alison Krauss & Union Station4. Brooks & Dunn5. Marty Stuart & His Fabulous Superlatives
Songwriters
1. Rodney Crowell2. John Rich3. Robbie Fulks4. Mary Gauthier5. James McMurtry
Instrumentalists
1. Jerry Douglas2. Brad Paisley3. Chris Thile4. Kenny Vaughan5. Keith Urban
New Acts
1. Miranda Lambert2. Shooter Jennings3. Sugarland4. The Wrights5. Hanna-McEuen
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link
just scanned Geoffrey's essay--here's his main point, I suppose...
*....they returned country music to its roots. No matter what its instrumentation, country has always distinguished itself from the conformist optimism of mainstream pop and the rebellious optimism of rock ’n’ roll, the religious pieties of gospel music and the secular pieties of folk music by embracing the weaknesses and wounds of human nature. By and large, only the blues have shown a like honesty.*
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago) link
1) the rockabilly isn't always all THAT hi-octane, or all that raw, or all that metal, or all that pervasive. Just sometimes.2) my favorite songs so far: "i can always count on you (to let me down)" ("gimme three steps" times "who shot sam" or one of those rockabilly george jones songs); "civil war rock" (ubangi stomp boogie woogie in a ubangi style); "confederate money" (as in "your love is like confederate money"); "i rode with j.e.b. stuart" (hard-kicking metal boogie with a manly sore throat -- "sabers and roses" is the same genre, but doesn't kick as hard, though it goes into a nice dobro or mandolin or dulcimer or something break in the middle); "ghost ride" (punk rock stretching toward boogie, and it mentions hagerstown, the maryland city that kix and the left came from, and this sounds more like the left than kix, and has somebody riding their ghosty horse into town and yelling "hurrah for the confederacy!" in the middle. also, it is track #11, not track #10 as erroneously stated on the cd sleeve); "Custard's Luck" (more catchy slimey stones-riffed biker rock; what does "come on you wolverines" mean in a civil war context?). Also there are okay Stones slimers about rebel girls from new york and Southern girls. Some of the more trad and stately and sometimes acapella'd history-lesson stuff is good too ("shadow of the south" is lovely), but i am a rockerist if not a rockist when it comes to country and it will probably take that stuff longer to sink in. 3) the hooves don't clip-clop; they gallop. and there are probably muskets on there somewhere as well.4) i still can't tell if there are any songs about being a yankee.5) in "brown sugar" mr. reb ANNUNCIATES, so you can tell she tastes good not just dances good, and he's not a schoolboy but he knows what he likes. still...um, interesting cover choice, to say the least.6) "maryland my maryland" must be old because it says "the gentlemen were gay" and rhymes that with "philadelph-i-ay."7) oddly, 22 songs is not nearly as excessive as I at first thought.
In other news, Michaelangelo Matos emailed me this link last night. I never heard of this guy before, and I'd have thought it impossible, but when it comes to keeping up with country, this guy may well leave everybody on this thread in the dust:
http://countryuniverse.blogspot.com/
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link
*"Custard's Luck" (more catchy slimey stones-riffed biker rock; what does "come on you wolverines" mean in a civil war context?)*
ah, I remembered this from my LSU days reading about the Late Unpleasantness (so Custer becomes Custard!):
The name James Kidd (1840-1913) is not altogether unfamiliar to Civil War aficionados, particularly to those with an interest in Union cavalry operations. A twenty-one-year-old University of Michigan student from Ionia, Michigan, Kidd enlisted in the federal army and managed to recruit a company of cavalry that was accepted as Company E, 6th Michigan Cavalry, with himself as captain. Brigaded with the 1st, 5th, and 7th Michigan cavalry regiments, the Michigan Cavalry Brigade distinguished itself under the leadership of its first commander, Gen. George Armstrong Custer. "Custer's Wolverines," as they were popularly known, gained renown as one of the finest volunteer cavalry units to serve in the eastern theater, fighting in more than sixty battles or skirmishes. By war's end, the Wolverines had served in the Cavalry Corps of the Army of the Potomac and under Sheridan in his Army of the Shenandoah....
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link
CDbaby.com is the future of music, I swear.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― xeddy@voice.com, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago) link
Remarkable, isn't it. Beats hell out of myspace even though a lot of the acts are kind of forced into doing duplicate pages for that service by the tyrannical hype of its benefits.
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link
If tweren't through CD Baby, it would have been missed. I don't think I saw a copy of it anywhere in meatspace.
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:46 (nineteen years ago) link
Fourth song "I Can Make It On My Own" on that great Redhill EP is lyrically a post-breakup survival anthem a la, well, "I Will Survive," or "No Guilt" by the Waitresses or somebody: "Saw you with your new hootchie mama/Have you introduced her to your head-case traumas?," sung to a Diddley beat (go ahead, sing along). The drums and guitars at the start are Bow Wow Wow's "I Want Candy" into George Michael's "Faith" (both of which were Diddley chillun all along).
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 18 January 2006 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link
By the way, this has been discussed before, but looking over the top 500 singles of the '90s to '05 on that countryuniverse.blogspot site, and I've only begun to do so, I'm kind of surprised by how many singers I now associate with alt-country apparently had actual radio country hits in the early '90s when I warn't paying attention. Carlene Carther, Leeroy Parnell, I forget who else. He's making me curious about lots of singers and songs I never heard or never thought about before. Don't always agree with him (his interpretation of "Gimme Shelter" in his #2 album of 2005 Kathy Mattea blurb is completely nuts, and he apparently has no use for Miranda Lambert at all), but he's got lots of interesting ideas. So who the hell is he?
― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 January 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link
>Mattea has the moral authority to cover "Gimme Shelter" and "Down On The Corner" - she's been a walking illustration of the virtues of peacemaking and creating art for pure joy that those songs respectively celebrate.<
Rape, Murder. It's just a shot away.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 January 2006 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 January 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link
and been listening steady to Townes Van Zandt. I suppose I like the talking-blues aspect of him best of all, he basically talks his way thru the London concert from mid-'80s, and he's really charming, even turning the Elvis movie tune "Song of the Shrimp" (which Frank Black did sorta cool and sorta half-assed on last yr's "Honeycomb") into a mock dissertation on songwriting ("I can't believe this, now it gets worse...Jesus, just let me finish the thing...what were they thinking, now the shrimp is talking??") and talking his way thru "Pancho and Lefty." but there's something in his singing and speaking voice that gets you after a while, something basically good-humored and bemused at his own obsession with mortality, which somehow seems like a joke to him. at the same time, he's a bit boring, a bit samey, and I'm not sure about his allegories and poker tales, altho he has one strange sorta Hawthorne-like death song about a witch living in a hole. so I haven't quite gotten to the point of making up my mind--I do know the damned tempos are too slow for my taste--but I'm basically won over. and shit, Townes is the granddaddy of alt- as much as Gram or Gene Clark or Don Everly or the Flatlanders or...
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 19 January 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah! I'd forgotten that's where it dated back to; I've got in on one of those New Orleans compilations on Rhino, now that you mention it. (The Yardbirds did cover it though, right? Or am I just dreaming?)
& Joy Lynn definitely has way more music in her music than Amy Rigby.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 19 January 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 19 January 2006 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 20 January 2006 00:17 (nineteen years ago) link
the Yardbirds did do it. everyone did those "Naomi Neville" Toussaint songs--like "Fortune Teller," gosh, everyone from the Stones to the O'Jays to Ringo Starr have done that one. I love those New Orleans guys so much--Smiley Lewis, Chris Kenner, K-Doe, Benny Spellman, Lee Dorsey...
speaking of New Orleans, the mayor should've thought hipper and said something about a "café au lait" city. Jeez, what I wouldn't give for a real Progress Grocery muffaletta right now, and a cold Abita beer.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 20 January 2006 01:11 (nineteen years ago) link
Just noticed his previous one placed #30 in their '05 poll. So, yeah.
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 January 2006 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link
1 - "hold my breath until next Wednesday" - I assume this one's "Wednesday" agreed that it's rote alt-country but not entirely unpleasant2 - refrain is "don't be so easy on yourself" (Isbell sings this one, I liked it)3 - "Blessing and a Curse" - not very memorable4 - Gravity's Gone - Cooley sings it, lyrics about handjobs I think and waking sunny-side-up, this one's good5 - "left w/o saying goodbye" - assume this one's "Goodbye" lyrics sound pretty treacly but I liked the bass on this one, hope it sounds as good on record6 - "Daylight" (I think Isbell did this one, oh wait yeah this is the one where he's all full-throated screamy, I guess that's where you're getting the Radiohead/MMJ comparison from)7 - "Feb 14" - slight but decent8 - something like "wonder why it's taking me so long" also think I heard something about getting dirt off your good name, Cooley sang it and I'm fairly certain it wasn't an old song and hopefully not a cover b/c I really liked it, acoustic and very evocative9 - "World of Hurt"
so really I guess I've figured 'em all out except 2 and 8.
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Friday, 20 January 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link
Feb. 14Gravity's GoneEasy On YourselfAftermath USAGoodbyeDaylightWednesdayLittle BonnieSpace CityA Blessing and a CurseA World of Hurt
― xhuxk, Friday, 20 January 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Friday, 20 January 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 22 January 2006 00:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 22 January 2006 00:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 22 January 2006 02:39 (nineteen years ago) link
though lots of times it just settle for just choogling somewhat lazily (which is fine, too.) and i won't absolutely swear they do anything as funky as the gator song on shooter's CD, or the jerry reed song where amos moses becomes gator bait. that'd be a close contest.
switching gears, i just noticed that in my second book i attribute "up against the wall redneck mothers" to bobby bare. amazing song, but i forgot that he'd done it, and i don't remember it being mentioned in all the bare talk in the past year. is he the one who had the biggest hit with it, or was that somebody else? was it an outlaw move for him, or what?
― xhuxk, Sunday, 22 January 2006 05:05 (nineteen years ago) link
I enjoyed reading the posts and I am looking forward to perusing the archives. I try to listen to as much different music as possible and I'm hoping you guys mention some great stuff I missed.
Thanks for the nice words about my blog. I want to clarify the Mattea comment I made because I think I didn't explain it clearly in the original post. From my point of view, Mattea took two classic songs that aren't easily covered, and I wanted to make the point that the songs are consistent with her musical identity and not just a cheap ploy to sell more records. With the attitude toward the war souring, and never having been very positive to begin with, there have been an avalanche of posturing music stars singing peace songs old and new. Mattea has been recording songs in that vein for a long time and I wanted to make the point that she has the moral authority to sing a song like "Gimme Shelter" because she's always had that worldview and incorporated it into her music; she's not like, say, Madonna suddenly adding "Imagine" to her set list last year.
With "Down On The Corner", which celebrates singing music for pure pleasure, there are few contemporary country artists who can truly claim to be doing that. I think with Mattea walking away from a major label deal (it's a little-known fact that Mercury prez Luke Lewis didn't want her to go) and now recording self-produced albums with her road band that are crafted while playing small venues across the country, she seems to be as close to the spirit of that song as reasonably possible.
I still don't know if that explains things any better, but "moral authority" just meant, to me, that she has the credibility to sing both songs with conviction and not seem like she's just doing a trendy cover or glorified karaoke.
― Kevin C., Sunday, 22 January 2006 05:32 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 22 January 2006 05:45 (nineteen years ago) link
I might or might not have more to say on this subject. I think it's possible Himes has read Robert Warshow's excellent essay "The Gangster as Tragic Hero." Himes is raising interesting issues; he's just not willing to turn the searchlight onto the voters or onto himself.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 22 January 2006 07:06 (nineteen years ago) link
I surprised myself with how much I ended up liking the Jamie O'Neal album, which I'd badmouthed a lot during the year. I'd say that Gary Allan has generally stronger songs, and he's a beautiful singer, but what works for him is to figure out how to approach a song and then to just follow that approach, consistently. I finally rated O'Neal higher because her music breathes more freely. In the midst of her dramatic story of the stripper - "Devil on the Left," best song on the album - she breaks into scat singing for no particular reason, but this works, as if the dance in her singing correlates to the striptease. And this is important because it's the music and not the lyrics that makes the case for the stripper's dance.
It's a cliché but accurate to say that country & western is split emotionally between a desire for home and family on the one hand and the urge to range wild and free on the other. This can either be a profound paradox or a lazy inconsistency depending on the artistry involved. Shannon Brown's "Corn Fed" is very catchy but appalling in its stupidity: on the one hand she says that in her happy heartland they leave doors unlocked so as not to keep anybody out, on the other she brags that there ain't nothin' but country on the radio. The average eight year old can see the hypocrisy in that one, and for an adult to write such a song and not notice its bullshit requires a deliberate deadening of the intellect. (Gawd, if there were an actual community that said this about itself, how would its teenagers avoid growing up insane? By listening to Young Jeezy records, perhaps, and dreaming of being gangstas.)
But it's the emotional split asserting itself, the gap between one ideal (wild and free, everybody welcome) and another (everybody united in values). Jamie O'Neal's got the split too, which she avoids confronting directly. Her mom-is-a-hero-in-the-home lecture is in one song, her girls'-night blowout is in another. In "Devil On the Left" - where the two ideals co-exist - the words sidestep just what is supposed to count as the angel's dominion and what the devil's: you assume that the strip show belongs to the devil, but does this mean dancing and pleasure belongs to the devil as well? There's a hint in the song that the preacher who prays for her is the one who eventually marries her and takes her to the corn-fed picket-fence land of the happy ending. But in marrying her he gets the carnal dance she'd previously sold to everyone. (The most touching of the many touching moments on Deana Carter's album is where she in effect asks the angels for permission to have a love affair.)
In general I like music that overspills its container, though for this to work well there has to be a good container in the first place. So that's my version of the split (Nietzsche's melding of Dionysius and Apollo, I suppose, though I haven't read Birth of Tragedy in thirty years so don't really know). Anyway, alt-country - alt anything, actually, including the Nashville Scene and New Times and the Village Voice - has its own version of this paradox/inconsistency: it claims to ride free - to be alternative, to overspill its container - and at the same time it turns "we overspill our container" into a container itself, a niche for the likeminded, and without a lot of motion in the niche. Really, Jamie O'Neal's music has way more splish and splash than Mary Gauthier's does, even if the latter claims to be an emotional cascade.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 22 January 2006 07:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 22 January 2006 07:25 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm pretty sure Jerry Jeff Walker had the biggest hit with "Up Against the Wall (Redneck Mother" -- written by Ray Wylie Hubbard, who is still underrated outside of Texas. xhuxk and others might prefer Ray's uber-substance-abused outlaw stuff from the late '70s and early '80s, though I think it's all out of print. He's become a friend, so I won't plug his post-substance Rounder albums too much (they're probably too singer/songwritery for this thread, though would it were more country-folkies had his humor and guitar chops). He's got a new record coming out in the spring. And he's become kind of a godfather to the Cory Morrows and Pat Greens of Austin. Oh, his "Conversation With the Devil" says Satan won the fiddle duel in Georgia. When Ray does "Redneck Mother" live he turns it into a frickin hilarious song-effacing genesis tale of outlaw country itself. I can YSI that if folks want to hear it.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 22 January 2006 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link
Two Nietzche and country connections in less than a week. We need to get Greil over to this thread.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 22 January 2006 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link
Frank's basically right about Geoff Himes's essay, I think. Even though I listen to way more Nasvhille country than a few years ago, and to my ears I *do* believe it's improved, I definitely don't think it's improved, as I think he implies, by moving toward alt or "getting back on track" (not a direct quote, but the gist of his argument); I'm not so sure I buy that it ever really got off track in the first place. And if it did, that stupidly smug and typically dull Alan Jackson kvetch he mentioned about not-quite-country two-minute love songs was probably more a SYMPTOM of its getting-off-trackness than a solution or answer to it (same with whoever did the dumb murder on music row one -- that was Alan and George, right? Compared to those two guys, most country was *right* to head more popward.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 22 January 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 22 January 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link
I guess I should note that Mattea drops the "rape, murder" part of "Gimme Shelter" and by doing so, the song works perfectly as a metaphor for a country on the brink of war. It's not so much a peacemaking song as a stark warning that peace is about to be broken and bad things will come because of it, I suppose.
Regarding country music's quality, I've posted a few times on my blog that I think the genre has suddenly had an artistic resurgence in the past two years, with 2005 being the first truly great year since 1996 or 1997. I suspect, however, that this is just a perception in my head, because access to a lot of different music suddenly opened up through iTunes (for me) and it's so much easier for me to go hear an album that's getting great reviews. For example, "Begonias." I never heard of that album until it started popping up on Best of 2005 lists, but I went and sampled it, bought it, and it popped up on my own list in the end.
This easy access reminds me of the golden era of CMT, when they used to play solid videos 24/7 and everybody had close to equal rotation. So many albums I bought and artists I discovered because of CMT. Remember the first Lari White, Sara Evans, Shania Twain, Martina McBride & Mavericks albums that flopped? I bought them because of CMT. I discovered Bruce Robison, Bobbie Cryner, Joy Lynn White, Mandy Barnett, Johnny Cash's "American Recordings", Willie Nelson's "Spirit" and "Teatro", Emmylou Harris' "Cowgirl's Prayer", Carlene Carter, Matraca Berg, Pirates of the Mississippi, Radney Foster, and even Todd Snider on CMT. I never cared much for radio. I got my music fix from the videos. The new digital delivery methods have opened up the doors again for me to hear a lot of great new music, much like CMT did a decade ago. I worry that maybe 1998-2003 weren't bad years for country music, but rather I just happened to miss a lot of great music that came out.
― Kevin C., Sunday, 22 January 2006 18:06 (nineteen years ago) link
Last year or longer, from:
Let's all write the same thing at once! Gretchen Wilson provokes wistful nostalgia for Hee-Haw Nation
Today's Sunday LA Times FEATURE, again fit for THEY PHONED IT IN: on Gretchen Wilson -- genuine redneck woman, putting 'redneck' back in country, setting the stage for a new breed of do-it-yourself redneck stars. Hoo-boy, do we love rednecks like this one in el_Lay media, just not our local rednecks, of which there are thousands.
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Dateline Nashville -- "When Gretchen Wilson reached for a paper cup during an interview on her tour bus, I assumed she was going to pour some coffee. Instead, she brought the empty cup to her mouth and casually spit into it -- brown tobacco juice."
Proof she's a redneck woman? Or maybe she's just crass, chaw spitters being a dime-a-dozen from east coast to west.
"No wonder record executives in this country music capital all but ducked under their desks when the former Illinois bartender and bouncer (and 'bouncer' is gold-plated intelligence-insulting bullshit) came calling time after time only a few years ago looking for a countract..."
"Now, here was someone who'd remind all those pop fans that country music is the land of Hee-Haw and trailer parks..."
"Eager to find Wilsons of their own, execs may now even be ordering spittons.
"A songwriter who collaborates with Wilson says/claims/spouts: "...the country audience related to her right away. She was drinking a beer in her videos and belching. Now everyone is trying to sign a redneck..."
Wilson's mother worked at "a bare-knuckle bar" where "a 12-gauge shotgun was kept." ===
I'd include more but it is really too phoned in.
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 22 January 2006 21:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 22 January 2006 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link
i think that gretchen wilson is better then her personae lets on.
― Anthony Easton, Monday, 23 January 2006 03:30 (eighteen years ago) link
>Alligator Stew studio album *A First Taste of Alligator Stew* from 1991 sounds tougher, tighter, meaner, and brawnier than the live one I talk about above, with more gunslinger ballads, more cowbell (in "four winds"), more comprehensible words about actual alligator rassling (in "shiner," where the singer keeps saying he's a shiner, a job which, though i've never heard the phrase before, seems to have something to do with bagging large carnivorous reptiles); also, turns out that "blood money" (here in both electric and acoustic versions) is about an offer of $7000 to get off your feet but you have to kill your brother to get it, wow; i'd thought it was about robbing a bank, but apparently i was wrong. also, with the clearer fidelity, it's now obvious the singer grunts or groans more like meat loaf or billy ray cyrus (i.e., aiming for springsteen, probably) than like jim dandy mangrum, which i do not mean as an insult. the fellow can really sing.
― xhuxk, Monday, 23 January 2006 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 23 January 2006 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 23 January 2006 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 23 January 2006 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link
mixing cover tunes,original psych rock andcovering hank I
― I haven't heard it yet o nym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link
(1) It's one of maybe about 12 "best" songs on that album, which doesn't have a bad one and would have made my Pazz & Jop ballot if I'd listened to it a couple of days earlier (it's the Burmese album I shoehorned onto my Nashville Scene reissues list).
(2) I just listened to 30-second streamed clips of Brownsville Stations', Hanoi Rocks', and Commander Cody's versions of "Lightnin' Bar Blues," and damned if I don't think you're right, Chuck (though "Lightnin' Bar Blues" may possibly be a knockoff of some earlier rockabilly track). The way Saing Saing Maw sings it reminds me of Ricky Nelson: Relaxed. As Dylan says, not rootin' the mountain down.
(3) Chuck, did the Robyn CD arrive?
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 24 January 2006 18:46 (eighteen years ago) link
Oops, the waltz is "Heart Over Head Over Heels." "That's the Way" is more like a zigzag (at leat that's what Samantha says: "gotta zig gotta zag gotta travel my jagged road." To Mexico with Romeo, maybe. But she also says she changes direction like a pendulum, and this song doesn't, and nor does it swing like England and a pendulum do.)
I did get Robyn, Frank, thanks! I like it, especially "Konichiwa Bitches," though I doubt I like that anywhere near as much as "Jam On It" or "Attack of the Name Game." Enjoy the rest; not sure yet how much. (CD-Rs are always hard for to motivate myself to listen to!)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 24 January 2006 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:27 (eighteen years ago) link
Shawn Camp *Fireball* on now; he wrote "Two Pina Coladas" for Garth and "How Long Gone" (which I don't remember off the top of my head) for Brooks and Dunn. He sounds like Ricky Skaggs with (sometimes, when he's good) John Anderson's or Blake Shelton's self-effacingly cornball sense of humor (though Skaggs himself could be self-effacingly humorous too, come to think of it). He's got as much bluegrass in him as Dierks Bentley, I guess; i.e., not enough to make him seem like a priss, but enough to make things interesting. Not a purist, in other words, and plenty of fast catchy songs. Leaning toward liking "Fireball" (about a gal), "The Way It Is" (is the way it was is the way it's gonna be, or something like that) "Hotwired" (multifaceted title metaphor), "Beagle Hound" (about his dawg), and "Drank" (about drinking) most, at least so far. Seems like he's not so good with the dark deathbound stuff, but I could be wrong.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Second song ("You Can Have Me") they're doing pretty much the same, the melody is almost as good, though the arrangement is more ordinary and less garage; and oddly enough I hate this track - falls into the category of "some guy trying to sing soul." I hear all the weaknesses that didn't bother me on track one, the singer not quite hitting the notes (the rough-hewn delivery masking the misses), out-of-tune backup singing. New Jersey white soul? They're a Chicago band, but they feel like Jersey.
I may report further when I listen more. Probably my liking for track one will diminish somewhat, and my tolerance for track two will increase.
(You know, Jagger and Sinatra were never quite hitting the notes, either, but despite this they hit thought and emotion on the noggin - when they were at their best, anyway. I wonder why something works in one situation and not another.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link
I wonder if fewer people voted for singles than albums in the Scene poll. This could explain why singles I like did better than albums I like; people with my taste have more of an impact.
(But I also usually prefer the singles to the albums that place in Pazz & Jop, and though there are fewer singles voters there, this is not enough to give people like me a special impact. Rather, people's taste gets better when they go for singles, and maybe the best singles artists clutter up their albums with ballads and stuff that drive away the album voters.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, they seem to have truncated the section overall this year, used fewer comments, though I haven't compared the column inches.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link
Maybe the alt-country types are less likely to vote for singles? That would be my guess. (Also, wasn't there one guy who said he voted for alt-country albums, but let his 19 year old daughter pick her favorite pop country singles? Or did I just dream that one up?)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 25 January 2006 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link
(But I don't see that preferences based on power-rotation airplay disallow critical latitude as to what counts as country.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 25 January 2006 16:01 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link
got several things to assess here, I've been playing catchup for the past week, just can't shake this flu. including the new Hank III, which came today, and the new Rhett Akins. but tonight, excited to be seeing Bettye LaVette!!
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 26 January 2006 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Hmmm...heard their new album a month or two ago and didn't think it was that good. Are these the same guys who put out an all bluegrass album of AC/DC covers a few years ago? Or was that somebody else? Either way, seems like a way too obvious shtick that wasn't funny in the first place, being the same kind of joke indie bands have worn into the ground since the Replacements two decades ago, plus like all joke-metal it's completely redundant, somehow missing the fact that you don't need to *make* hard rock funny, because it was funny on purpose in the first place. Anyway, grumpiness over with, I actually thought the two least annoying songs on the new Hayseed Dixie album were their version of Green Day's "Holiday" and an original called "Kirby Hill," mainly because their energy was better when I can't remember a version of the song that's way more energetic, and it's been a long time since I played that Green Day album. "Black Dog," "War Pigs," "Ace of Spades," and a couple other originals ("Mountain Man," "Marijuana") seemed tolerable (once), but the shtick wore out its welcome way too quick. On the other hand, I *can* kind of see how they'd be fun to be in a room with while drinking beer, especially if they cracked wise about *Deliverance* between songs.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 26 January 2006 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 27 January 2006 00:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 27 January 2006 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Anthony Easton, Friday, 27 January 2006 15:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 27 January 2006 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Anthony Easton, Friday, 27 January 2006 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link
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― werner T., Friday, 27 January 2006 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 27 January 2006 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Anthony Easton, Saturday, 28 January 2006 02:11 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, yes and no. Looking at the poll again, I see that seven of my albums made the list (which is way more than ever make the P&J list) while only four of the singles. But my four singles were all bunched at the top, in the top six, whereas my albums spread throughout the top 25. But given that I have heard most of the placing singles I didn't vote for, whereas I haven't heard most of the albums, I'm really not in the position to judge whether the singles list was better than the albums. I just normally assume that singles lists are better than album lists.
Got the in-print copy of the Scene; this year it came without a T-shirt, and none of our comments were in the print version. That and no numbers listed with the votes makes this the ever-shrinking critics poll. (And I'm damned if I can figure out why the Scene thinks a boot on the cover would be more enticing than Lee Ann's warm, engaging mug and upper torso.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 28 January 2006 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 28 January 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Also listening to a pile of Southern soul discovered via CD-baby channels. The album by a jowly guy named Jimmy Taylor leans toward the blues end of things (with lady backup vocals not far from the ones on last year's Bobby Bare album); the EP by the lady named Candis Palmer ("All Men Ain't Dawgs,* since some are electric boogie dawgs apparently) leans toward the disco end; the single by Harold, "Chill Step Party," is steppin' music. He mentions Milwaukee, Chitown, Harlem, and Atlanta in it. More fun than R. Kelly, as far as I'm concerned, but mainly all this stuff obviously has a connection to county music too.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 28 January 2006 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 28 January 2006 20:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 28 January 2006 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link
candis palmer, as i said, gets even more disco, but her disco is maybe 1975 where taylor's is 1973. (i think i wrote on the '05 thread that shannon brown's disco sounded 1979, but maybe that was hyperbole; i'm not sure. these two soul singers FEEL more disco.) but even at her most disco, in a song called "don't let someone else come and jingle my bell" or something, palmer gets backed by HARD blues guitar riffs, so the music really rocks. if i had to compare her vocal style to anybody, it'd be the staple singers in "i'll take you there."
― xhuxk, Saturday, 28 January 2006 22:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Saturday, 28 January 2006 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link
the esquire story i was talking about, about tim mcgraw, was mostly good ol boy wanking, but it said a couple of things, he said that he can sing the hell out of any shit, and the only way tht he can ever hit it out of the ball park is to chose decent writers, which is really obvious, but remains unstated, and this was said by an anon nashville exec. the other thing is that he not only outed himself as a centerleft democrat, and he wants to run for senator of tennessee--what do we think about tht, what are his chances?
has anyone heard the new roseanne cash, as well, can we talk about that
― Anthony Easton, Saturday, 28 January 2006 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link
And in what may be a stunning upset at the Poptimists World Cup, Trinidad & Tobago are (is?) currently leading their group; if they hold on, this will mean that at least one of highly regarded Sweden and highly regarded England will not pass forward to round two. Paraguay, managed by our own Anthony Easton, may be overmatched, but gutty performances by a duo who seem to be Spanish-language equivalents of Glen Campbell and Bobby Goldsboro are keeping them still in contention.
And, right on cue, the day after I described the Paraguayans as like Campbell and Goldsboro, the Time-Life classic country Sweet Country Ballads CD arrived through the mail, featuring our heroes Glen ("By the Time I Get to Phoenix") and Bobby ("Honey"). This is appropriate in so many ways, especially given that my Pazz & Jop commentary was all about Pazz & Jop's - and my - inability to come to terms with ballads. The antho has also done me a service by reminding me that the first Top 40 I song I ever loved was Skeeter Davis's "The End of the World," and that one of the first 100 Top 40 songs I ever liked was George Hamilton IV's "Abilene." And that even after having listened to "Detroit City" 20 times in the last several months, I still love "Detroit City" the 21st time.
Also has Ray Price's "For the Good Times." What intrigues me is that this full-scale stringed-up and orchestrated sorrowful ballad doesn't remind me nearly as much of Johnny Ray as do the two old honky-tonk tracks of his I'd mentioned upthread. In the honky-tonkers he seems ready to ramp up into Johnny Ray–type blazing teardrops, whereas "For the Good Times" sounds more conversational and intimate, like Sinatra.
(Can teardrops blaze? I think Johnny Ray proves that indeed they can.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 29 January 2006 00:09 (eighteen years ago) link
What I know of Tennessee politics amounts to about zero, so I can't predict. What's McGraw's political organizing and experience been so far?
I think everyone who participated in the Country Critics poll is due a paper copy of the Scene, assuming they have your mailing addy.
Pazz & Jop gets posted online around midday (Rocky Mountain Time) this coming Tuesday, January 31.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 29 January 2006 00:25 (eighteen years ago) link
I suspect most of the fireworks that my Angolan team will ignite in the Pop World Cup are in my banter with the hapless lunatic attempting to forge a talentless Iran squad into something that can avoid base humiliation (I refer to one Mark S). We go head to head week after next (ha, and I might easily think that something to do with football would be among the few areas where I wouldn't be laughably outmatched! Shame this actually has almost bugger all to do with football...).
For The Good Times has to stay conversational because it is so hard to wring a tune out of it. Even Al Green struggled.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 29 January 2006 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link
I like the Rosanne Cash album. It's therapy, sure, but the songs feel necessary and the memories deeply recollected ala Wordsworth. I'll write about it more after I finish a review of the Amelia White album, Black Doves, which I also like, but not as much (the title track, though, is good anti-war imagism; someone tip off Christgau).
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 29 January 2006 00:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 29 January 2006 02:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 29 January 2006 02:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 29 January 2006 03:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Roy, as our resident Ray Price expert, what would you say about "For the Good Times" in relation to whatever else he was doing around then?
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 29 January 2006 03:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Anthony Easton, Sunday, 29 January 2006 06:14 (eighteen years ago) link
i know this isn't the right thread to defend the replacements on, but i'm not sure what this means unless it's a reference to their kiss cover -- and i'm pretty sure they did the kiss cover because they were (like a huge percentage of the white male population of their age) big kiss fans. and i think their version rockx. you're most likely right about hayseed dixie, tho. i've never listened to them because i've been put off by their shtick. (but if alison krauss ever makes the '70s hard rock album she's threatened, i might bite.)
meanwhile, in case anyone's wondering, neko case's new album is a.) pretty good and b.) even less a country record than anything else she's done. and i think i like her better without the twang affectations. she's a torch singer, and she can do country torch as well as any other kind (and gospel too, there's a great gospel tune on there), but her natural affinity is for a kind of noirish pop that falls somewhere between owen bradley and david lynch. (and the album still has some duds, but i think maybe less than the last few.)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 29 January 2006 07:36 (eighteen years ago) link
Brownsville and Cub Koda whether they know it or not. But only Teenage Head comes close to being as crunching while any style from the first five or so BS albums is in the same area. Standard but always astute observation in "Stone Cold Sober" that the object of assessment was more lively, intellectual and fun when a drunk, as opposed to a teetotaler. A band that could do justice to "The Martian Boogie."
"1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9" is also a fair Van Halen/DLR rip, only superior.
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 29 January 2006 07:46 (eighteen years ago) link
not just "black diamond". ever see them in the mid '80s, or hear that *when the shit hits the fans* tape? they used to drunkenly cover foreigner, BTO, you name it. which was vaguely cute, at the time, but it set up this "ha ha we're an indie band covering this stupid '70s song" routine that zillions of bands, from soul asylum on down, wound up taking up. the fact that none of them (sorry, including the replacements) wrote songs as smart as foreigner or bto apparently didn't make the joke any less funny for lots of people. i still consider it idiotic.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 29 January 2006 08:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 29 January 2006 15:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Sunday, 29 January 2006 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link
but anyways...
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 29 January 2006 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link
Price had been recording with orchestras since at least 1964, so the overall approach of "For the Good Times" was well established for him by 1970. It's the first track on side one of the album of the same name (Columbia 1970), I think the first Kristofferson song he recorded, with "Help Me Make It Through the Night" the first track on side two. In the late '60s, what really starts to change, at least to my ears, is his singing: He's in complete and total control of his voice, and so he's figuring out more and more about the kind of singer he can be, what country music means to him (turns out, it means more the bedrock rhythm and the melodic concision, as opposed to themes or twang or whatever), sculpting and caressing notes, drawing out phrases like the longest bow on the longest string, then seamlessly returning to the deep spoken lines. Throughout this period he's negotiating sonic country signifiers--some tracks have more pedal steel or fiddle or pronounced acoustic guitar (the track that follows FTGT, "Gonna Burn Some Bridges," opens with pedal steel lick and twin fiddles) others, like FTGT, have only that insistent, steady underlying Nashville Sound rhythm. But by 1970 country audiences were ready. "For the Good Times" went #1 Country and #11 Pop. The whole album is really good. He reinterprets "Crazy Arms" and "Heartaches By the Number" in full Sinatra mode. If you haven't heard his version of "Help Me Make It Through the Night," you'll be surprised at how fast it is. He doesn't get the song the way Sammi Smith did. But "Cold Day in July" is totally crushing.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 29 January 2006 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link
"Country music is often called music for grown-ups, and no record better illustrates the point than Ray Price's 'For the Good Times'. The foundation is Kris Kristofferson's song, which is every bit as complex and conflicted as any real-life adult breakup.
'Don't look so sad,' Price begins. You figure he's comforting a woman to whom he's just delivered bad news. But as the scene unfolds, you learn that he's getting the bad news; she's leaving him, and the song is his attempt to get her to go to bed with him just once more. You know, 'for the good times.' Price could have delivered these lines in all sorts of ways. He could have sung as if the man were unable or unwilling to let go. He could leave the man wallowing in self-pity or nostalgia, or he could have let the man believe he just needs someone to help him make it through the night. It could have been a last ditch effort to get her to stay, or maybe he's just a creep who wants to get laid. The miracle of Price's delivery--he croons elegantly in one breath, all pathetic in the next--is that he never allows us to choose between these interpretations. Kristofferson's words and melody and Price's delivery combine to let the man be all these things at once. No wonder Price has frequently gone out of his way to identify 'For the Good Times' as among the best songs he's ever sung.
The reason he even has to point this out at all is the record's arrangement. Its clopping drum and tic-tac bass are unmistakably country in feel, but the problem for some listeners is the Cam Mullins string arrangement intertwined with that pulsing rhythm--as every purist knows by heart, string arrangements don't belong on country records. Whatever. There's really no accounting for such reactions, particularly to a record like 'For the Good Times', where the strings so clearly aid both the singer and the song. It's true that on some records strings are needlessly stitched onto perfectly serviceable country rhythm sections (think of those Frankenstein monster overdubs of Hank Williams's hits), but that's not the case here. 'For the Good Times' was clearly conceived with an orchestra at its center. As a result, the strings give the song its mournful tone and sonic thrust; they suggest, in their call-and-response with the singer, all the history that stands between this couple. Most of all, they assist Price in his seduction even as they point to the man's inevitably lonely future.
Because she's going to tell him no, right? 'Don't look so sad', he begins. Every time you hear Price sing those lines, you wonder anew just what it is he has done to make her give him that look. Has he moved to hold her in his arms as she was packing to leave? Touched his lips to her neck as she pulled away? 'Make believe you love me,' he purrs, then pauses ever so slightly before adding 'one more time'. And that's where you finally understand why her eyes have filled with tears--she's remembering all those nights when making believe was precisely what she had to do." -- David Cantwell
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 29 January 2006 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link
I must say this sounds like a good mix of self-congratulatory and wretched.
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 29 January 2006 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link
Not something I'll listen to a lot. It ain't party music but it's effective.
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 30 January 2006 03:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 30 January 2006 05:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/shawnmullins/albums/album/246377/rid/5941940
Don't own the album anymore, though. May listen to his new one; may not. (By the way, 9th Ward Picking Parlor in New Orleans is also where Jan Bell records sometimes, I think == can't remember whether that Maybelles album from last year was recorded there or not.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 30 January 2006 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 30 January 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link
the Maybelles did record their album at 9th Ward. I think if I remember right that Jan Bell mentioned to me that the owners of 9th Ward PP had moved operations to Kansas? Iowa? someplace like that. I like the Maybelles better than Mullins, altho I kinda keep playing it in the changer to see if I like it more than I do right now.
listened to the Hayseed Dixie records--yawn, not really all that much fun. they were fun live, not as fun as this Memphis Jug Band/blues-with-snare/acoustic geetar/standup-bass act I caught at Billy Block's Western Rodeo revue: many of their songs were about twelve-step programs and women who love you even when you drink too much, I think they were called something like Delta Southern. Gus Cannon becomes a Friend of Bill. and right, they did "Kirby Hill" which was the best thing I heard. just one of those things that don't translate onto record, and pretty one-joke.
Rhett Akins, "Kiss My Country Ass" begins well--great slide and acoustic guitar that's ominioso and pretty rockin'. but, "I ain't scared to grab my gun and fight for my land/If you don't love the American flag, you can..." basically, it puts me in mind of a band of total drunks going off to fight terrorism, which might not be a bad idea come to think of it. but, some fine slide/guitar solos, great Stonesy piano licks, some great post-Allmans flatted-fifth riffs snaking around. basically, the record really swings and rocks, and I actually quite like "I Love Women (My Mama Can't Stand" which mentions "Daytona tans" and "redneck women who ain't afraid of Jim Beam" and uses a modified chicka-boom two-beat structure. one thing about Nashville records, you generally get a lively rhythm-section dynamic, and here the steel/guitar combination is light and not overbearing. good 'un. and in general, almost every song has a really good riff, like "The Trouble with a Woman," except I am not sure if his out--the trouble with a woman is gen'l'y, usually, a man--means that he's just on the make or if he cedes power. and the rest of it talks about bird dogs and how playing sorority parties made him realize that he's not the kind of guy to take orders from suits, altho he's fine with taking orders from George W. Bush.
I'm not sure, I might find Rhett more authentic outlaw than Hank III, which I am still absorbing. but he's going for a thin sound, he has a thin and weird voice, and he uses a lotta echo and reverb to I guess cover up the fact it seems to have been recorded in a room with wooden floors and walls. starts out with a brief reprise of the Louvin Bros.' "Satan Is Real," and so far I find it a bit samey over the long haul. haven't yet listened to the second disc.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link
listened to the Hayseed Dixie records--yawn, not really all that much fun. they were fun live, not as fun as this Memphis Jug Band/blues-with-snare/acoustic geetar/standup-bass act I caught at Billy Block's Western Rodeo revue: many of their songs were about twelve-step programs and women who love you even when you drink too much, I think they were called something like Delta Southern. Gus Cannon becomes a Friend of Bill. and right, Hayseed/De-seed did "Kirby Hill" which was the best thing I heard. just one of those things that don't translate onto record, and pretty one-joke.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 30 January 2006 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 30 January 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link
"1. Um. Pretty. But blah. Pretty blah. 'Underwater daydream, bone dry desert song.' There's a husky something at the end of his phrasing that is interesting. 'Interstellar rainbow on its cosmic whim'? 'I like my daylight to be silver, I like my night skies to be blue/Blue as you." Meaning what?
"2. And now some hard guitars. Which are a relief. 'I lost count of the times I've given up on you/But you make such a beautiful wreck, you do.' 'At the dark end of this bar, what a beautiful wreck you are."
A blue wreck, perhaps? I guess I'll get back to this alb at some point.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 30 January 2006 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 30 January 2006 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 30 January 2006 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 30 January 2006 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link
"they" = "the words" in above passage. (basically the words don't annoy me yet, but also don't reach out and grab me yet. now they're saying "they say if you love something, let it go" over and over.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Wednesday, 1 February 2006 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link
so I listened to the new Kristofferson record with Don Was, and Jim Keltner on drums on a couple. it's good-liberal codgerdom in an intimate setting! KK is concerned about the death of the environment, the way we hate our outlaws, girls who are older than their eyes or is it the other way around, freedom and the highway thereto...and he's maybe the worst singer in history. so, a success...actually, one kind of good track, "Chase the Feeling," which is sort of Sun rockabilly two-step with actual dynamics and so forth, and lyrics: "with a pretty piece of hunger/she was younger than her eyes/on a scale of cosmic thunder/it's a wonder you're alive." and a song about how seeing Willie Nelson onstage chokes him up and makes him glad to be a songwriter, and a human being.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 2 February 2006 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link
"For me as a person, [The Incident has] completely altered the course I was on. For me to be in country music to begin with was not who I was. I liked Martie and Emily's playing, but I did not grow up liking country music. And I guess I was ignorant to the fact that the stereotypes behind country music were true — and it was disappointing. And so at this stage, I can never... I would be cheating myself and not setting a good example for my children to go back to something that I don't wholeheartedly believe in. So I'm pretty much done. They've shown their true colors. I like lots of country music, but as far as the industry and everything that happened... I couldn't want to be farther away from that. And it's easier when you're financially set, because you can be a little more ballsy, and just do what you want to do. I don't want people to think that me not wanting to be a part of country music is any sort of revenge. It is not. It is totally me being who I am, and not wanting to compromise myself and hate my life.
How do Emily and Martie feel about this?
Um... I don't know. We're all on the same page... professionally. And some of us like country music more than others [Laughs], but nobody's forcing anyone else not to... um... you know, go the direction that we're going. We're all on the same page."
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2006 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2006 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2006 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2006 19:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Seems Americana heavy, judging from the names I recognize. I liked some songs on that Paul Kelly bluegrass album, though.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link
Exene Cervanka and the Original Sinners, *Sev7en*: There was a time, more than 20 years ago, that even her countryish stuff (the stuff with X anyway, not the Knitters crap) didn't strike me as totally mannered and ridiculous. That time is long gone, and I don't know if it's 'cause I got tired of her or 'cause her voice just kept getting flatter. Anyway, I got through about 4 songs this time, then gave up.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 2 February 2006 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― werner T., Thursday, 2 February 2006 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link
So, yeah, much ado about probably nothing, at least until it comes out. It'll be interesting to actually hear the damn thing.
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 2 February 2006 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 2 February 2006 21:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 February 2006 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2006 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 3 February 2006 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2006 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2006 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2006 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 3 February 2006 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 February 2006 22:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 3 February 2006 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link
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― don, Saturday, 4 February 2006 05:12 (eighteen years ago) link
>Also, good article in Sunday's Times about perennial polka grammy winner Jimmy Sturr. I kinda can't stand Sturr's slicked-up sound; haven't really been keeping up with polka lately (a few years ago I listened to all five polka grammy nominees and my favorite was Eddie Blacsconszyk of Chicago, shown flipping panckaes on that particularly CD cover and also quoted in the Times article, but I haven't kept up since - -just did a cdbaby.com search for polkas and mainly what seemed to come up was joke bands or bands for the triple A alt-country crowd, which i don't THINK is what I want but I may be wrong.) Anyway, the article talks about how Sturr's east coast style (he's from Jersey) is actually quite Vegasy and big-bandy (though he's also known to get guest appearances by lots of country stars), where the Chicago style is more trumpet heavy and the Cleveland Slovenian style is where the accordions get emphasized. So maybe I should search "Cleveland polka," I'm not sure...
― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link
actually, i just realized that something similar happens when I try to search there for "western swing." am i being deluded or romanticizing too much to wish that there were great bands playing this stuff, um, "for real" and not just ironic revivalists? are there? i'm sure there are (though I'm not sure how to define "real"); I'm just not sure how to find them.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link
i dont even know how they record them, frankly.
i also have no idea how a ukranian polka would differ from lets say a hungrian or polish or rommanion.
so where you might need to get polka, is the new york equivlaent of a good old fashioned prarie supper
(the same thing with western swing, sort of---we get an old school country crooner, or the like here once or twice a year, at the pioneer house mostly, and its all the seniors, and their kids, nostalgia circuit sure, but fantastic if you can get it)
― Anthony Easton, Saturday, 4 February 2006 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link
i mean i guess with both western swing and polka i want it to be fast catchy good-humored complicated highly rhythmic rocking dance music that doesn't seem to constantly pat itself on the back for BEING fast catchy good-humored complicated highly rhythmic rocking dance music (like, you know, when punk bands all the way back to brave combo decide to play polkas), which usually means it ISN'T. In 2006. this may well be a pipe dream; but in both genres, it used to come completely naturally. (i have always thought hot club of cowtown had promise, i guess -- am even a fan of their slowed down version of aerosmith's "chip away at the stone" - but they're totally wimps compared to what milton brown or roy newman or adolph hofner used to be. those guys wouldn't have given a shit about getting a rounder records audience, i don't think.) (interesting, what i'm looking for -- see above - -DOES still exist in southern soul music, though, apparently.)
>where you might need to get polka, is the new york equivlaent of a good old fashioned prarie supper<
ha ha, well, i am walking distance from Greenpoint! So maybe I should just take a walk!
― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link
I used to have those 3 Epic LPs from late '70s, Chuck. she was briefly a big deal 'round here. always struck me as a more liberal Tanya Tucker, maybe, or like someone who shoulda been on Stiff. proto-Lucinda, I dunno about that, I'm never a fan of Lucinda all that much except for the occasional pretty fair song she writes (and as an aside, I heard this P.F. Sloan album Jon Tiven's finishing up in N-ville, and the best thing on it was a duet with P.F. and Lucinda, so go figure). but Marshall covered Seger (so you might track that one down if you can find it, Chuck, it's "Jaded Virgin," but I haven't any idea if they're in print somewhere, and I'm constantly combing Nashvile for old country vinyl and don't recall seeing any of them lately) and Cash, I think, maybe it was "I Walk the Line," and one of her records was produced by Al Kooper, and if I recall it seemed a bit over-refined. I think her first Epic one was the best, tho, "Me, I'm Feeling Free" was the title. her new 'un hasn't hit here either.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 4 February 2006 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link
and yet both places still seem to have real cowboy music by real cowboys, hmmm...what a paradox!
― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 4 February 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 4 February 2006 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.westernmusic.org/performers.cfm?ID=18
― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 February 2006 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 4 February 2006 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link
has anyone attended to the Hank III second disc trainwreck enough to tell me what Wayne Hancock song (if it is a Wayne Hancock song, I dunno) Shelton Hank's doing in the midst of all that crap?
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 5 February 2006 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link
Doing a list of best pop/rock covers by country artists. Any suggestions?
― Kevin Coyne, Sunday, 5 February 2006 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Sunday, 5 February 2006 18:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 5 February 2006 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 5 February 2006 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link
"...track down one of these artists [or head to one of these bars] ... and listen for yourself. Then you'll hear a remarkable sound: Music made for music's sake.
The Cowboy Palace Saloon {in the San Fernando Valley]
"Bordered by Bully's Billiards, a strip club and a liquor store, the Cowboy Palace Saloon calls itself 'the last real Honky Tonk' and it's true to its word ... The Asian cowboy beside me played a harmonica softly to himself, and a man in Wrangler jeans and a 10-gallon hat strummed air guitar on his pool cue.'
Mo' Cowboy Hats
Bruce Burton with King Size
"Great music often sweeps in on the tails of reinvention. Enter Bruce Burchmore, who was born in Bangkok ... and landed at USC to study music history. He mastered the lute...A little more than a year ago, after a painful breakup, Burchmore took his guitar to Manhattan, where he holed up in a hotel for 10 days, writing music and wallowing in melancholy.
"When he emerged he was Bruce Burton, country singer, and he had in his hands the makings of a fine album. Back in LA, he assembled the skeleton of Uncle Cowboy, a band of uncanny talent, which has since been renamed King Size.
"But he isn't the only member of King Size who takes his sorrow straight up...Witness an early memory of Easy Pickens, the band's guitarist, who as a teenager lived in a basement in a bad Vancouver neighborhood. 'I'd just put on a Hank Williams record,' he says, 'skip all the happy songs and drink myself to sleep.'"
Awwww. The only thing missing is the tin of snuff in back pocket.
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 6 February 2006 00:10 (eighteen years ago) link
(P.S. I wrote Elizabeth McQueen telling her I liked the liner notes to Happy Doing What We're Doing a lot and that I wanted her to continue writing about music. The liner notes just made me want to smooch her. (I didn't say this in the email. And the cover photo also had something to do with the desire to smooch.) There's a brain in there, both in her singing and in her commentary. (A brain worth smooching.) Anyway, she was complimented that a writer would want her to write, but she felt she'd probably not want to be a critic while still putting her own music out there, that this would inhibit her. "It's fine to write about the good, but when you get down to the meat and potatoes of criticsm, which is being critical..." A brain, for sure. Maybe we could get her to write about electronica, which she says she's into.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 6 February 2006 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 6 February 2006 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 6 February 2006 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 6 February 2006 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 6 February 2006 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 6 February 2006 22:08 (eighteen years ago) link
So, "Politcas Ratas" on the new El Tri album *Mas Alla Del Bien Y Del Mal* sounds like a nicely barbecued '70s ZZ Top rip, but I don't think there's much else on the CD. Lots of '50s rock'n'roll revival, one song that reminds me of "Rockin' in the Free World," I dunno what else. I think this is like their 50th album though, so maybe there's a kick-ass greatest hits album somewhere down in Mexico. Or maybe not.
― xhuxk, Monday, 6 February 2006 22:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 6 February 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 7 February 2006 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 02:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 7 February 2006 08:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link
I actually decided I don't hate the Bob Log III song, "Log Bomb". Not that it's really a song per se'; more like just a sound, this high-pitched attempt to recreate old-timey backwoods blues country as some kinda newfangled avant-garde slide shuffle -- reminds me of what the Hi Sheriffs of Blue were doing in NY a quarter-century ago, but not nearly as good. Still, not bad. Like, yeah, a log bobbing up and down in the water. (The Ani Difranco track is still unbearable, however.)
I actually thought that at one point I wrote up a Voice choice for Bob Log for the listings page that never got printed, but here's what I was thinking about instead (this thing may well be five years old):
"LONESOME BOB--Quite a buzz in alt-c&w circles for this balding bearded Jersey baritone, maybe because his CD's full of titles like ``He's Sober Now'' and ``I Get Smarter Every Drink'' and ``2 Drinks on an Empty Stomach.'' He mostly sings like a overboozed bull in a china shop, natch. But he can slip a pinch of David Allen Coe into his twang, and ``Heather's All Bummed Out,'' about a 35-year-old looking for love on all the wrong websites while her clock ticks away in her Harrison-Ford-postered cubicle, deserves a Christgau choice cut at very least."
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 7 February 2006 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link
In the cubicle, Harrison Ford's picture is next to her fiancé's. "Sometimes a girl gets bored." A good observation, but at the time (according to my notes) there seemed something condescending about Lonesome Bob's sympathy.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 22:43 (eighteen years ago) link
I've felt an affinity for the image I get of Moorer and her sister through their music, but I could rarely not be bored by the music itself. I always listen, feel the affinity, but end disappointed.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 22:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 7 February 2006 23:16 (eighteen years ago) link
David Scott put Shelby Lynne's version of "Rainy Night in Georgia" on his annual best-of CD, which always contains a lot of stuff I seem to have missed. it's really good. and altho it's not country I really like the two songs by Devin Davis, who was unknown to me, he put on it--a really great one called "Transcendental Sports Anthem."
and I've been listening to some late-'50s Webb Pierce, too, which seems to handle its backup voices and so forth really well--great version of "Raunchy" called "The New Raunchy" and a great one called "Tupelo County Jail."
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 7 February 2006 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 00:09 (eighteen years ago) link
listened to the 4-song Redhill CD yesterday--thx Chuck. I got bored with it, but I think Julianne has real potential as a singer, and seemed to me they saved their best moves for, like, the codas or something. but there's something there, I just need to listen to it again.
and for those Gram Parsons fans out there, this site called youtube.com has a video of the Burritos doing "Older Guys" from '70 that's really cool, and lots of other video stuff as well--like the James Gang! seems like the site works better at night, during the day the vids seem to play pretty jerkily, and I can see it being a major time-waster, too. but worth checking out.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxj, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk not xhuxj, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link
I've decided that I really like the Jamey Johnson record, "The Dollar." great baritone. "Rebelicious" is a good song about the ideal hard-bodied woman who can also bait her own hook. and I think "The Dollar" is excellent, altho "Flying Silver Eagle," about melting down wedding rings, is even better. I just wish it were more of a concept album about money, and funnier. but I'm impressed that he wrote most of the songs, and he seems sane, even-tempered. could be as good as John Conlee or Moe Bandy, maybe.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link
"by Tony Scherr at his house in Brooklyn"
I mean, Moranis may have talent -- he may even have potential to be Shel Silverstein or Bobby Braddock, for all I know. Maybe someday, in some context, I'll have the patience to listen closer to his demos.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 21:31 (eighteen years ago) link
Wait, is that what "Take Off (to the Great White North)" featuring Geddy Lee was from? Not to mention the 12 Canadian Days of Christmas single? Who were the artists on those? I am blanking out on them (even though I'm pretty sure I have the "Take Off" 45 at home).
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 February 2006 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 8 February 2006 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link
The 20 stations* that are giving "Kerosene" the most spins:
KSKS-FM Fresno 55S060-FM *SiriusSatellite 51X016-FM *XM Radio 45KKCS-FM Colo Springs 43WUSN-FM Chicago 42KSOP-FM Salt Lake City 39KHKI-FM Des Moines 39KTST-FM Oklahoma City 38KYKR-FM Beaumont 38WTQR-FM Greensboro 36WXBQ-FM Johnson City 36WIOV-FM Lancaster 36WGNE-FM Jacksonville 36WPUR-FM Atlantic City 36WWYZ-FM Hartford 35KBEQ-FM Kansas City 35KUSS-FM San Diego 35WQBE-FM Charleston WV 35WPCV-FM Lakeland 34KTOM-FM Monterey/Salinas 34
She's not even in the top 30 on KYGO in Denver, which means she's getting fewer than 11 spins, if any. Of course, the song has been around for a while, and may be having a different life cycle in different places.
*that are reporting to Mediabase, that is
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 10 February 2006 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link
The man deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 10 February 2006 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link
and thanks Roy, for alerting me to Ray Wylie Hubbard! just picked up his "Delirium Tremolos" yesterday. "Choctaw Bingo" is fantastic.
and for the record, for what it's worth, the Wayne Hancock song that Shelton Hank III does on his new one is "Take My Pain." exactly my feeling when I play the fookin' thing...
there's a nice little bit on Moranis in the current Paste magazine. xps
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 10 February 2006 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 12 February 2006 01:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 12 February 2006 05:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Anthony Easton, Sunday, 12 February 2006 07:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 12 February 2006 12:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 12 February 2006 12:37 (eighteen years ago) link
1 MIRANDA LAMBERT Kerosene 512 JOSH TURNER Your Man 493 TRACE ADKINS Honky Tonk Badonkadonk 474 MONTGOMERY GENTRY She Don't Tell Me To 475 RASCAL FLATTS What Hurts The Most 466 SUGARLAND Just Might (Make Me Believe) 467 TIM MCGRAW My Old Friend 438 KENNY CHESNEY Living In Fast Forward 309 SARA EVANS Cheatin' 30 10 JACK INGRAM Wherever You Are 3011 TRENT TOMLINSON Drunker Than Me 2912 VAN ZANT Nobody Gonna Tell Me What... 2913 GARTH BROOKS/TRISHA YEARWOOD Love Will Always Win 2814 TOBY KEITH Get Drunk And Be Somebody 2815 ROCKIE LYNNE Lipstick 2816 LEE ANN WOMACK 20 Years And Two Husbands Ago 2617 JAMEY JOHNSON The Dollar 2418 LEANN RIMES Something's Gotta Give 2419 JASON ALDEAN Why 2320 RODNEY ATKINS If You're Going Through Hell 23
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 12 February 2006 12:42 (eighteen years ago) link
"Results 1 - 10 of about 121 for "Rockie Lynn". (0.64 seconds)"
That's even fewer results than you get for "Frank Kogan."
I think Rockie is Canadian.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 12 February 2006 12:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 12 February 2006 12:57 (eighteen years ago) link
We're talking about "Because of You" (most of the discussion was on last year's thread), which I'm now trying to make sense of since it's only been on the charts for half a year and gone double platinum as a single (not to mention the 5 million the album has sold). When I first heard it I pretty much dismissed it as an OK adult-contemporary heartbreak song, suitably quiet and sad but not up to the Kelly's previous three singles. Now, having paid attention to the lyrics and thought hard about where its music is coming from and so forth (and finally doing what I can to study the video on the postage-stamp screen that Launch Yahoo gives you in dialup), I'm hearing a completely different song, something of intensity, something that feels loud even with the quiet accompaniment and the controlled singing. And I think it is out of bounds for country. Which is to say that though I can imagine Faith singing in this style she probably wouldn't go for this melody or these words; and though I can imagine LeAnn going for both the melody and these words and totally nailing it in performance, she'd probably decide that it would be bad for her career at this point to release it.
First the words: it isn't just that they're unremittingly despairing, since you could say the same about country classics like "He Stopped Loving Her Today" and "The End of the World." But those don't feel like despair, or they take a different approach to despair, or something. (I've always considered "End of the World" a beautiful, sweet delight.) In general, country's "life falls apart" story belongs to its standard romance cycle: "My heart is broken, now I'm drunk, now I'm going to fuck up again and again," is mined for a lot of rue and a lot of comedy. It's something country is comfortable with. Whereas "the relationship was fundamentally pathological and has left me unfit to live" is not standard for country, even if it's fine on Oprah and adult contemporary and Radio Disney.
Also - and this is interesting - I'd never thought of it as a domestic drama until last night when I started examining the video: house in the suburban night, we're looking in through the window at a couple arguing, then we're in with them in the fight, a child watches glumly, a man upends a table in anger; then a different scene, the little girl shows daddy something she's made, daddy burns it on the stove; a woman leaves, a little girl leaves.
Before studying the video, I'd just naturally assumed this was a romance-and-dysfunction song like most of the ones that precede and follow it on the album, that the narrator was addressing a former boyfriend who'd left her devastated. In fact, that's a perfectly good way to read the song; the "you" is never identified. But if we factor in the video, the narrator has to be the little girl grown up, and she's addressing her parents: "I heard you cry every night in your sleep/I was so young/You should have known better than to lean on me/You never thought of anyone else/You just saw your pain/And now I cry in the middle of the night/For the same damn thing/Because of you/Because of you/Because of you I am afraid/Because of you I never stray too far from the sidewalk/Because of you I learned to play on the safe side so I don't get hurt/Because of you/I try my hardest just to forget everything/Because of you/I don't know how to let anyone else in/Because of you/I'm ashamed of my life because it's empty/Because of you I am afraid/Because of you."
Anyway, I don't know of anything like this in country, though that may not be because it's not there but just because I don't know the genre well enough. Haggard's "Hungry Eyes" suggests something difficult (like, maybe sometime mommas are too hurt to try); maybe there's more. (Subject for further research: Hank Snow.) But "Because of You" is more in the territory of Faster Pussycat's "House of Pain" and Everclear's "Father of Mine" and Pink's "Family Portrait" and Lindsay Lohan's "Confessions of a Broken Heart" and Ashlee Simpson's "Shadow." The country equivalent? Maybe LeAnn Rimes' album track "No Way Out" if you decide she's talking about her relationship to her dad. (But didn't the country audience make clear that they didn't consider that album country?)
I'll continue this thought later, but there's also something going on - though subtly - in the sound of "Because of You" that also isn't yet a part of country, and that's goth.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 12 February 2006 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link
"A Boy Named Sue"? "Up Againt the Wall Redneck Mother"? ("he ain't responsible for what he's doing 'cause his mother made him what he is")
or okay, maybe not... this deserves much more thought, though.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 12 February 2006 19:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 12 February 2006 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link
(According to the article Kent's and Dee's background had been in pop songwriting, and I'm assuming Kent was basically marketing the thing pop, so it's interesting that country producer Chet Atkins was the guy who heard potential in the song.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 12 February 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 12 February 2006 20:51 (eighteen years ago) link
Also (again not knowing much about country videos especially, and I'm sure there's lots of precedent here) she's being the girl who walks in and causes T.R.O.U.B.L.E. in that Travis Tritt song.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 12 February 2006 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Anthony Easton, Sunday, 12 February 2006 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link
I remember Eric Weisbard played Dolly's "Down from Dover" for me, and he told me as he cued it up, "When you get to the end, your hair will stand on end." When it got to the end my hair stood on end.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 12 February 2006 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link
i'm going to call *Totally Country 5* (which contains the montgomery gentry song in question, not to mention kerosene, homewrecker, dierks's how am i doin', suds in the bucket, van zant's help somebody, i play chicken with the train, god's will (token shitty song from a good album) and blake shelton's goodbye time) a keeper, since it also has xxl and hicktown (which is a DANCE song by the way), and i've yet to see or hear a copy of the keith anderson and jason aldean albums, and it also has craig morgan's kenny-chesney-wannabe redneck yacht club, which i've decided i like despite its strange socioeconomic contradictions even though i forget who the hell craig morgan is otherwise. ray scott's my kind of music is okay, too, at least soundwise -- talking blues with annoying pandering lyrics about how she can't get enough of whitney but he prefers waylon so she's outta there, god what a dumbass. also rans: andy griggs's if heaven (was a town it'd be my town in the summer 1985 and if it was a beer it be my last one), yucko, though i'd still like to hear the album it's from someday since i'm a fan of the more cinderella-style hair-metallic stuff on his '02 *freedeom* album; brooks & dunn's useless it's getting better all the time (which rips off the same beatles song that modern english did once except not even a tenth as well); lonestar's you're like coming home, which i forget what it sounds like even while it's on. helpful CD (despiite its odd chronology -- i.e., nothing from the CURRENT dierks or sara evans albums), since i no longer have cable and live in country-station-less NYC, which means i am sad;y months behind on the current state of hit country singles.
― xhuxk, Monday, 13 February 2006 00:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 13 February 2006 00:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Anthony Easton, Monday, 13 February 2006 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link
i like it a lot too. but er..it could be what, anthony?
>nothing from the CURRENT dierks or sara evans albums<
or martina mcbride, either. yet there's hits from the past few months on it by other people. i wonder why that is.
― xhuxk, Monday, 13 February 2006 03:09 (eighteen years ago) link
I've got the antho but haven't listened yet, but I did let Launch Yahoo run on its own a bit today and among others I heard "My Kind of Music" and "Redneck Yacht Club" and "Hicktown," all three of which I like, in that order I think. My notes on the Ray Scott: "Self-congratulation, singers' names heaved at us like signifiers, but does a good outlaw honky-tonk stomp. Not bad, given the stupid concept." (The concept is no stupider than "Corn Fed"'s, which you voted for, which is also a good stomp, w/ garage rock thrown in) (though I do think that "Corn Fed"'s lyrics are more interesting and must have required more thought, though the resulting narrowness and hypocrisy is even more obnoxious; I mean, I can't say I use criteria that is totally dissimilar to Ray's in evaluating potential love interests, though I might change the artist's names). (Dave Hickey once wrote that he should know better than to date someone who dislikes Robert Mitchum, since it never works out.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 February 2006 04:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 February 2006 04:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 February 2006 04:18 (eighteen years ago) link
OK, getting up and playing "Hicktown" right now, I think the trouble is that it's not slow enough, not spare enough, not obsessive enough. The best part comes 2:15 in, when voice and fiddle shut up and for ten seconds you've got a tough little breakbeat. Someone tell Bambaataa right away.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 February 2006 04:51 (eighteen years ago) link
White, Armond
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 February 2006 04:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 13 February 2006 05:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 February 2006 05:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 13 February 2006 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link
as for *totally*'s tracklist, yeah, it occured to me that licensing might be an issue. i haven't checked if the older tracks are less likely to be sony bmg, but maybe that has something to do with it. i totally stink at remembering record labels anyway. but maybe sara's, martina's, and dierk's (and brooks & dunn's, come to think of it - their song here came from their best-of album which i never heard) labels don't want their songs here to cut into sales of their current albums. whereas maybe with smaller acts like aldean and anderson (whose album edd says he's going to send me so i finally hear it - thanks edd!) *totally country* is considered a smart promotional tool.
― xhuxk, Monday, 13 February 2006 14:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, it's weird; I've never equated parrotheads with rednecks. And I've always assumed that anybody rich enough to afford a yacht *can't* be a redneck. (Though maybe they're not real yachts, just powerboats or something? Can you fire up tiki torches on a powerboat? I should listen closer to the lyrics, but either way, it seems kind of extravagant by Jeff Foxworthy's definition, I would say.) So part of the feeling I get with the song is boatowners lying to themselves.
― xhuxk, Monday, 13 February 2006 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 13 February 2006 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 13 February 2006 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― werner T., Monday, 13 February 2006 15:58 (eighteen years ago) link
anyway, I always saw parrotheads as middle-class good ol' boys rather than rednecks--they can afford to go down to Destin or Ft. Lauderdale or deep-sea fish once or twice a year, and they usually have a Neville Brothers CD and maybe even Lyle Lovett in with their Gentry, Jackson and Urban (for the wife). music, perhaps, aimed at/informed by the coastal Catholic south-- that area in between New Orleans and Pensacola? and of course frats and sororities, maybe they go with their parents to see Jimmy for some controlled drinking.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 13 February 2006 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 13 February 2006 17:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 13 February 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link
Volume 2:1. Modern Day Bonnie and Clyde - Travis TrittMusic2. I Breathe in, I Breathe Out - Chris CagleMusic3. Just What I Do - Trick PonyMusic4. My Town - Montgomery GentryMusic5. That's When I Love You - Phil VassarMusic6. Best Day - George StraitMusic7. But for the Grace of God - Keith UrbanMusic8. Ten Rounds With Jose Cuervo - Tracy ByrdMusic9. Ol' Red - Blake SheltonMusic10. Life Happened - Tammy CochranMusic11. One - Gary AllanMusic12. She Was - Mark ChesnuttMusic13. Wrapped Around - Brad PaisleyMusic14. Impossible - Joe NicholsMusic15. I Don't Want You to Go - Carolyn Dawn JohnsonMusic16. I'm Movin' On - Rascal FlattsMusic17. Ashes by Now - Lee Ann WomackMusic
Volume 3:1. Unbroken - Tim McGrawMusic2. Cry - Faith HillMusic3. Speed - Montgomery GentryMusic4. Three Wooden Crosses - Randy TravisMusic5. Blessed - Martina McBrideMusic6. Love You Out Loud - Rascal FlattsMusic7. Beautiful Mess - Diamond RioMusic8. Baby - Blake SheltonMusic9. Was That My Life - Jo Dee Messina10. Not a Day Goes By - LonestarMusic11. When You Lie Next to Me - Kellie CoffeyMusic12. American Child - Phil VassarMusic13. On a Mission - Trick PonyMusic14. One Last Time - Dusty DrakeMusic15. Strong Enough to Be Your Man - Travis TrittMusic16. Life Goes On - LeAnn RimesMusic17. Tonight I Wanna Be Your Man - Andy Griggs
Volume 4:1. That'd Be Alright - Alan JacksonMusic2. Redneck Woman - Gretchen WilsonMusic3. No Shoes, No Shirt, No Problems - Kenny ChesneyMusic4. Some Beach - Blake SheltonMusic5. Save a Horse (Ride a Cowboy) - Big & RichMusic6. I Love This Bar - Toby KeithMusic7. Brokenheartsville - Joe NicholsMusic8. Little Moments - Brad PaisleyMusic9. Letters from Home - John Michael Montgomery10. Tough Little Boys - Gary AllanMusic11. Desperately - George StraitMusic12. Let's Be Us Again - LonestarMusic13. Perfect - Sara EvansMusic14. Heaven - Los Lonely BoysMusic15. I Can't Sleep - Clay WalkerMusic16. Help Pour Out the Rain (Lacey's Song) - Buddy JewellMusic17. Hell Yeah - Montgomery Gentry
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 13 February 2006 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link
A small surprise, not necessarily pleasant, was that I had to admit to myself that Martina McBride's "God's Will" pulls me in, despite my despising not just its clumsy, blatant manipulativeness, but its stupid cheap way of making its point. (Um, the crippled are God's children and they can bring God to us.) And the point is dreadful itself. And even with totally different words I don't like the sound of such ballads. But I guess there was enough in the ballad, and in the words, and her big warm-hearted voice, to pull me in. Not that I intend to play it much, and I still don't feel it sounds good. But there's power in it.
(If she were really going to face the theological issue - assuming there is one? something along the lines of [to quote Loretta Lynn] "God makes no mistakes"? - she'd have to plump for the abusive father in "Independence Day" also representing God's will, right?)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Anthony Easton, Monday, 13 February 2006 23:39 (eighteen years ago) link
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I need to get back to "Jesus Take the Wheel." I've heard so much "turn it over to God" crap since moving to Colorado that I just may not be able to give it a fair chance.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 February 2006 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 00:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Speaking of whom, now that I know something of Shelby Lynne's childhood tragedy, the fact that she recorded John Lennon's "Mother" on Love, Shelby means a hell of a lot more.
(I don't know what it says about me that learning of her trauma makes her more interesting to me, but it does. Wish I hadn't sold those two albums I had.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 00:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 03:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 10:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 11:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link
worst thing about 'jesus take the wheel': that opening verse sure makes it sound like the reason her life is in need of jesus is that she's got a job and a kid (single mom I guess but not necessarily), it seems like god sent that ice patch to tell her 'you can't do both you silly girl, go get a man and then you can stay home with yr kid & bible, cause there are no icy patches there'
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link
or the second and third anyway (since you didn't list the first)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 14:22 (eighteen years ago) link
Whichever one Chely Wright's fascist bumper sticker song was on. (Though did her album eventually come out on a major? I forget. That's another 2005 country album I'd still like to hear by the way.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link
FEBRUARY 14, 2006
1 P.M. EST
FOR PUBLIC DISTRIBUTION
WILLIE NELSON RECORDS NED SUBLETTE'S "COWBOYS ARE FREQUENTLY SECRETLY."
YES, HE REALLY DID.
NOW AVAILABLE AS A DOWNLOAD. AND SOON, A RINGTONE.
SPREAD THE MEME.
I was sworn to secrecy until now, but today, on Valentine's Day, it can be told.
In 1981, sitting at a piano in Portales, New Mexico, I wrote a song called "Cowboys Are Frequently Secretly," whose first two verses and chorus go:
There's many a strange impulse out on the plains of West Texas
There's many a young boy who feels things he don't comprehend
Well, the small town don't like it when somebody falls between sexes
No, the small town don't like it when a cowboy has feelings for men.
Now I believe to my soul that inside every man there's the feminine
And inside every lady there's a deep manly voice loud and clear
Well the cowboy may brag about things that he does with his women
But the ones that brag loudest are the ones who are most likely queer.
Cowboys are frequently secretly fond of each other
What did you think all them saddles and boots was about?
There's many a cowboy who don't understand the way that he feels for his brother
Inside every cowboy there's a lady who'd love to slip out.
It was the era of the urban cowboy plague, when the country charts were full of cowboys this and cowboys that songs. Inspired, I wrote this song, imagining Willie Nelson singing it.
"Cowboys" seemed to strike a nerve, and for a time was the thing I was best known for. It took on a life of its own, as songs will do. After the first time I sang it, I got requests for "the one about the cowboys" at the next gig I did, and on and on. I probably don't need to point out that at the time, the term AIDS was unknown. A live recording of the first-ever performance of it by my band appeared on a John Giorno anthology. I made a damn fine recording of it in the 80s, with an A-team of specialist players, that has never come out. It was covered by the queercore group Pansy Division, who changed it from a waltz to 4/4. I tried to place it in Brokeback Mountain, but the word I got was that it was too funny for a tear-jerkin' movie.
My friend Tony Garnier, who played bass on my studio version, passed a copy of the track to Willie Nelson in maybe 1988. After living with the song all these years, Willie has recorded it.
It has just been released as a download-only single on iTunes, and as of this morning, it's available at iTunes.
It was premiered this morning, a few months shy of 25 years since I wrote it, for Valentine's Day, when Willie appeared as a guest on the Howard Stern show. I didn't hear it, since I don't yet get Sirius. The song has the F-word in it (it's not gratuitous, it's structural), and by going over to Sirius, Howard Stern can play it unedited. Satellite radio is the new FM.
It's pretty amazing to hear Willie sing this song. Not just because it has the word "queer" in it. Not even because it's the first time I've heard Willie Nelson sing the word "fuck." But because of his interpretive power. Since I originally imagined Willie singing it, I feel kind of like I already heard it, way back when. But Willie as an interpreter is always surprising, and I learned a hundred things about my own song hearing him give it back to me.
But here's the best part.
There's going to be a "Cowboys Are Frequently Secretly" ringtone. I don't have the link yet, but if you want it, e-mail me and I'll try to keep on top of it. After all, ringtones are the new singles.
I'm told there is also a video, though I haven't seen it.
Please feel free to let all your friends and acquaintances know. And thank you, Willie.
Late-breaking update: An article in the Dallas Morning News today quoted a prepared statement by Willie as saying, "The song's been in the closet for 20 years":
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link
hurricane mason (from tulsa, oklahoma), *cast iron constitution* (2002), *it's only miles* (2005). first CD has the most badass cover of any cdbaby band cd i've come across lately -- a great big american bison buffalo, which is a VERY MANLY ANIMAL. (insert joke here about the difference between a buffalo and a bison is that a bison is what britsh people wash their hands in, etc.) second album cover is a rearview mirror. (insert meat loaf or hootie and blowfish album title here etc.) first album also *sounds* more badass, more ruff and tuff, both vocally and musically: "don't shine me on" a kickass boogie rocker, "head up in the clouds" a good long 8:13 choogle about gettin nekkid in new orleans that stretches out by winding down to a winding allmansesque ending, "killer machine" a gloomy spooky slow heavy one with a nazareth-style buildup; "spare change" an open-road biker ballad with a sped up ending. can't place which second-tier '70s southern rocker the vocalist sings like, but it was an okay one, whoever it was -- though the singer doesn't always grab you with his words like he should (he does better on the buffalo album than the rearview one). though the band is still pretty stodgy overall, which is more a detriment on the more recent album, though "girl across the street" could almost be a garland jeffreys song, "painted smile" has another slow spooky build to it climaxing in "the rich man makes the rules and the poor man writes the songs" and by that point i'm wondering if this is what springsteen's pre-debut-album jersey shore metal band steel mill or whatever they were called might've sounded like, "news man" is about how the TV news lies and has a heavy riff that keeps coming in, "little drops of rain" is their second song to mention new orleans (and you will notice they have hurricane in their name, crazy, huh?), and the closer "soulshine" is "written by warren haynes" (so, a gov't mule cover maybe? i dunno) and has soul singers in the background, and before that there's a song about how every schoolboy's fantasy is to grow up to be angus young and they quote "it's a long way to the top" in it. their cdbaby page likens them to nugent, grand funk, neil young, ac/dc, black crowes, santana, and black sabbath, not all of which i hear myself but maybe you will.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link
i think that its one of my favourite country songs, and i want them to play it for the first dance at my wedding.
i love willie is doing this, and i wished i could get i tunes to work, cause i want to hear it
― Anthony Easton, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Anthony Easton, Tuesday, 14 February 2006 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 05:30 (eighteen years ago) link
I mentioned upthread that Little Big Town's "Bones" draws on Fleetwood Mac's "The Chain." Well, I just listened to the grime compilation Run the Road Vol. 2, and the remix of Sway's "Up Your Speed" cops the bass riff that John McVie uses on "The Chain"'s ending rave-up. The Sway track plays the riff on some orchestral-type keyboard setting, so the sound is of an ominous orchestral motif rather than the big-bouncing bottom that it is on the Fleetwood Mac album. (I'm wondering if there might not be some intermediate track post-FM and pre-Sway that uses the riff and might be Sway's [or his remixer's] immediate source.)
(Yeah, I know the connection of this post to country is tenuous.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 06:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 06:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Anthony Easton, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 06:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 13:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― werner T., Wednesday, 15 February 2006 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 February 2006 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― werner T., Wednesday, 15 February 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― werner T., Wednesday, 15 February 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link
here's part of Jon Weisberger's appreciation of the late Charles K. Wolfe in today's Nashville Scene:
there are scholars whose life and work demand respect, and none deserves it more than Murfreesboro’s Dr. Charles K. Wolfe, who died last Thursday after a long struggle with diabetes and the complications that attend it. No country music writer was more prolific than Wolfe, who published 19 books and was at work on several more projects at the time of his death. And none ranged more freely across the sweep of the music’s history, tackling subjects both broad and narrow. Most importantly, none was more engaged with the object of his study, applying the insights gained from close attention to the music’s early years to the trends and happenings of today.
Those who focused, professionally or not, on the string bands of the 1920s and 1930s knew that Wolfe could be relied on to fill in a blank, or at least to point them in the right direction. But journalists covering country music news, too, knew that he was always ready to provide an informed, clear and pointed context for the latest developments and controversies.
Though country music itself is old, the serious study of country music is not, and it is no exaggeration to say that Wolfe, together with a handful of colleagues, was instrumental in the construction of country music history as a worthy and viable subject. Yet while his research was as thorough as possible, his work was aimed not so much at other scholars as at those who were involved or interested in the music, or who could be persuaded by a blend of passion and knowledge to become so.
By necessity, most of Wolfe’s books were published by academic presses. But he was also a frequent contributor and consultant to both public and commercial television documentaries. His publications in scholarly journals were matched by dozens of liner notes that accompanied contemporary releases and reissues of undeservedly obscure recordings.
The range of Wolfe’s interests—and hence of his knowledge—was simply staggering. The Devil’s Box: Masters of Southern Fiddling, a collection of essays published in 1997, covered subjects ranging from the age of fiddle styles heard on country’s earliest recordings to the career of Tommy Jackson, who played a key role in defining the instrument’s role in the 1950s and beyond. Another collection, Classic Country (2001), offered succinct sketches not only of Hall of Famers like Grandpa Jones (with whom Wolfe co-authored an autobiography) and Bill Monroe, but of forgotten figures like songwriter Arthur Q. Smith and the mysterious Seven Foot Dilly.
With historian Kip Lornell, Wolfe co-authored a book-length study of the great African American blues and folk singer Leadbelly. He also acted as the chief consultant for PBS’ broad American Roots Music series and wrote a biography of gospel legend Mahalia Jackson.
To all of these subjects, Wolfe brought an unalloyed, infectious enthusiasm, and it was natural that the same spirit led him not just to scholarship, but to engagement and activism. Sometimes this manifested itself simply in encouragement and assistance to other students of roots music, including those he taught during the course of more than 30 years at MTSU. At others, it led to lasting collaborations and friendships with a diverse collection of artists and musicians. At still others, it took the form of public commentary and advocacy, perhaps most notably when Wolfe adopted the title of “curmudgeon” to weigh in on personnel changes at the Country Music Hall of Fame & Museum.
Given the International Bluegrass Music Association’s Distinguished Achievement Award in 1990, Wolfe also served behind the scenes in helping to create the organization’s Leadership Bluegrass program. The initiative is aimed at shoring up not only the music’s ongoing creative vitality but its commercial survival.
“In an age when country music seems to be shooting off in a dozen different directions, it is important to remind ourselves that there was once, and still is, a broad mainstream that genuinely defined the genre,” Wolfe wrote in the introduction to Classic Country. Ultimately, it’s the assertion of country music’s importance that points to his greatest legacy. For while his work has its own merits, what may count for most in the end is his insistence that music, and especially country music, matters—that not only does it have things to tell us that we need to listen to, and not only does it have intrinsic joys and rewards, but that these can only be enriched by a deeper knowledge of who made it, and how and why. Whether or not they realize it, every denizen of Music Row, every fan and every artist, from the unknown fiddler tackling the “Black Mountain Rag” to the current toast of the town, owes Charles Wolfe a debt of gratitude
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link
Chris Neal did a nice piece today also in Nashville Scene, about the Country Radio Seminar. it's worth reading in full: title is "Radio Interference." some interesting facts: country radio has 2042 stations right now, up from 690 when CRS started 37 years ago--more than any other format, if I read it right. Arbitron says country listenership is at its highest level in 7 years. and good stuff on satellite/subscription stations like XL and Sirius, who have 9 million listeners, a lot but nothing compared to 230 "terrestial" radio stations. Neal maintains that "long-form" programming might prove a boon to country artists and listeners, too, and cites the venerable Nashville station 95.5 FM, now called "The Wolf," as an example of a traditional station that has opened up its programming, playing what you'd expect but also stuff like the Eagles, Commodores, Quarterflash...and he talks about acts like Pinmonkey, who are apparently getting some nice royalty checks thru their play on satellite. there's more, and as I say, worth reading.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 16 February 2006 02:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 16 February 2006 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:04 (eighteen years ago) link
"If you’re touring on a grassroots level like we are," explains drummer Crouch, "you can search demographically by age group and pick, say, 19- to 42-year-olds in Winston-Salem, N.C., knowing that you're going to be there in two weeks. Then you send out a message to those people saying, 'Come check it out.' You can micromarket."
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 16 February 2006 03:07 (eighteen years ago) link
Nope. You were right the first time, Edd. The online version of the Scene fucked up the byline. Jon is a good bluegrass bass player and bluegrass critic in Nashville.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 16 February 2006 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link
-- George the Animal Steele (george_the_animal_steele...), February 15th, 2006.
Double on their other album on CD Baby, 60 Cycle Hum. "Carol Ann" and "Ghost Train" are the big tunes and the Georgia Satellites sound is even more pronounced on the first half dozen out of ten on the record. The blurbs on CD Baby say they have four albums, none of which I'd heard or seen anywhere until they came available in entirety on-line.
― George the Animal Steele, Thursday, 16 February 2006 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link
so I think I'm won over by Birde Busch's new folkie record "The Ways We Try." she sounds nice and casual and a bit droll, and I'm sort of in love with the closing track, "Room in the City," a lovely 6/8 ballad with a beautiful little chromatic piano figure and intelligently used pedal steel. I like the way she doesn't try so hard to prettify her voice, and it's a really charming song about songwriting and its relationship to how people actually live: "Had a room in the city/And he needed room to grow/He said 'I've written a thousand songs/Still feel I have nothing to show.'" very nice indeed.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 16 February 2006 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 16 February 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Oops, I misinterpeted an email from the band. I should've said "I hope they get nominated for all the Motor City Music Awards they deserve." Also they have SIX people, not five. EP's still great, though.
― xhuxk, Friday, 17 February 2006 00:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 17 February 2006 04:18 (eighteen years ago) link
*Aquamarine* soundtrack peaks, in great Hope Partlow Samantha Jo tradition with another GREAT summer song, "Summertime Guys" by longtime Disney pop C-lister Nikki Cleary, which has a killer rumbling bounce of a beat I can't put my finger on - not quite Bow Wow Wow, not quite Bo Diddley, but pretty close taxonomincally: early Sweet, maybe? I dunno, something like that. Song is written by Jeffrey W Coplan (who also produced it), Nikki Cleary, and Robert Ellis Orrall, the last of whom sort of existed on the commercial country/late-Creem powerpop cusp once upon a time and had a #32 Carlene Carter duet pop hit in 1983 with "I Couldn't Say No," and bigger country hits later than that I believe. (See above: "barndance mixer" "Boom! It Was Over" on 1995 K-Tel comp *Country Kickers.*)
― xhuxk, Friday, 17 February 2006 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link
miko marks, *freeway bound*: one of the things that cdbaby seems like it might be useful for is finding out about black people singing country music, since you can quickly scan CD covers which tend to have photos of singers. i've contacted a couple so far, and really wanted to like miko marks, who like grand funk and michael moore is from flint, michigan. she's pictured with charlie pride in her press kit and hints in there also at having a soul music influence, but sadly i don't hear it in her music at all. what i mostly hear in her singing i guess is reba mcentire, and despite liking a few early reba hits (and one album that's actually on my shelf -- *whoever's in new england* i believe), i'm realizing there's something i inherently kinda dislike about reba's voice. maybe it sounds pinched to me or something? anyway, a couple of miko marks' songs are ok, but nothing has grabbed me so far. which doesn't mean some won't eventually, if i give them more of a chance, and i will.
tea leaf green, *taught to be proud*: these guys are also on cdbaby -- four albums, though oddly apparently not this one. and actually i don't remember contacting them about their music, and can't imagine why i would have. this just fell into my lap, somehow. it came out in '05, though if they have a show coming in new york (one reason they may have sent it to me), i haven't noticed. anyway, i kind of like it. its sound reminds me of *workingman's dead,* extremely pretty/hooky/grooveful folk-rock with nice exploratory guitar endings. best one so far is in a song called, um, "rapture," which is not a blondie cover but a song about how the rapture is coming. which would maybe mean they're HARDCORE christians and scary ones, except the lyrics of "rapture" (sung from the point of view as "a gambler with no bankroll" apparently avoiding the "law man") remind me of "renegade" by styx. they mention the Lord in other songs, though. so still Xtian, i guess.
The Tossers, *The Valley of the Shadow of Death*: On Victory Records, which inevitably makes me think I'll hate it, and the only reason I played it is because they *do* have a show coming up in NYC (opening for Dropkick Murphys, which is appropriate as you'll see), and I can make a few bucks by writing a show preview. Ended up liking it a lot more than I expected to -- maybe the best approximation of the Pogues' *Rum Sodomy and the Lash* by an American band I've heard (the Murphys being more like *Red Roses of Me*), hence belonging on the country thread given country's roots in Celtic folk. The Tossers apparently come from an Irish Catholic neighborhood on Chicago's South Side, which would make me wonder why the hell the singer sings in an Irish accent and spells jail "gaol" on the lyric sheet except that I now live in Sunnyside, Queens, which contains something like 15 Irish bars within a few blocks of my apartment (no exagerration, I swear), and people sure do talk with Irish accents in those, despite this also happening to be the United States. Anyway, the album sounds really good, especially the last couple tracks which get quite dark and beautiful and apparently (according to the liner notes) include within them a couple jigs and/or reels originally performed by the Chieftans.
Speaking of Irish bars, I just had a beer at one on the way home from dropping my daughter off at the Port Authority so she could catch the bus back to Bucks County after the weekend, and they played "The Stranger" by Billy Joel, which I never paid attention to much before (it's about how everybody has a split personality or something) and realized maybe it was an attempt to do a reggae song (by the way, I think Mikael Wood underrated Billy Joel in his Voice lead review a few weeks ago, and I actually myself wrote a Voice lead Billy Joel review once in the late '80s explaining what I don't quite hate about him) and they (= said Sunnyside Irish bar) also played "Richard Corey" by Simon & Garfunkel, which I also never paid attention to much before (it's about how some banker's son owns half the town and the singer works in his factory but the rich guy winds up shooting himself) and realized maybe it was an attempt to sound like the Kinks. Has that ever occured to anybody before? (Also both songs belong here since obviously both Billy Joel and Simon & Garfunkel have since influenced commercial country, though I can't think of specifics now.)
Finally, uh, Rockie Lynne's album is on right now. I kinda hate it I think. Not sure why. He just sounds bland and smug or something. The single "Lipstick" is maybe not all that awful -- just another tequila sunrise about going on a spur of the moment vacation to El Paso and elsewhere and sleeping in the desert with your gal, okay, what the hell, I can live with it. More interesting perhaps is "Super Country Cowboy", which is a sort of post-talking blues rap about how Rockie is this new kind of evangelical psychedelic cowboy playing a new kind of country that acknowledges the existence of the Rolling Stones and mp3s. Or something like that. Seemed rather forced to me. But the rest seems even suckier so far.
(okay, maybe not so brief. sorry!)
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 00:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― George the Animal Steele, Monday, 20 February 2006 00:42 (eighteen years ago) link
pss) miko marks has apparently collaborated with eykah badu, though i'm not sure when.
psss) unclear whether the tossers have *songs* near the level of the pogues's early on; the singer's alright, but he's missing something, i'm not sure what. they sure can reel, though.
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 04:34 (eighteen years ago) link
-- tea leaf green are WAY more expansive, explorartion-wise, than either nickel creek or little big town. i guess what reminded me of those bands is the mandolins and/or close harmonies, i'm not sure. But 7 of the 11 songs on this album last 4:53 or longer, so yeah, I guess that's why they're considered a jam band. Why I haven't been *hearing* them as a jam band, I guess, is that the jams seem to emerge so naturally out of the super melodic songs, and the jams stay melodic (and rhythmic) while they happen, so i just hear them more as, um, "long incidental instrumental breaks." fairport convention's in there some, and maybe even steely dan. congas on two tracks. i tend to prefer their longer songs.
-- miko marks has a blues and soul influence in her singing after all, but it tends to show up more in her ballads ("don't come cryin' to me," the plight-of-the-impoverished protest "the lonely one," and my fave so far "feelin' the rain") which seem to be less plentiful than her more upbeat songs. which can be fun (esp the road song "freeway bound" and the very vaguely caribbean-lilted-in-a-phil-vassar-kinda-way summer song "all i wanna do"), but which are mostly just two-steps that sound like the kind of stuff that might have showed up on country stations in the early '90s. i may be wrong about her reba influence; miko sounds like *somebody* from that era, though maybe not reba. maybe somebody (even?) more trad-sounding than reba who i can't quite place. either way, i'm liking her more.
-- the tossers seem more interesting in their slower songs ("drinking in the day," "presab san ol," "the valley of the shadow of death", etc) than their more upbeat ones as well. there is something a little rote-sounding and hopscotchy about the latter, like for instance the dad-i'm-in-gaol-don't-tell-mom-and-don''t-come-post-my-bail opener. for some reason both the singer and rhythm section find their footing more when things slow down.
--at least one song from the *high school musical* OST, "breaking free", sounds as much like a pop-country power ballad to me as a teen-pop power ballad (isn't that one of the big download hits? i think so, since it's one of two tracks with a "karaoke instrumental" version at the end of the CD. and come to think of it, the instumental - which i I kind of like; when I first heard it, it was in my random CD changer, and I guessed it was by either tea leaf green or the tossers! -- sounds somewhat rural or pastoral or whatever as well.) the non-karaoke rendition is said to be sung by leading man troy + leading lady gabrielle.
-- finally, back to Nashville: Did anybody else here notice that dykey member Kristen Hall did not perform with Sugarland at the Grammys a couple weeks ago? I did, and wondered what the hell was up, but then forgot about it the next day. Well, yesterday I saw one of those glossy country mags on a newsstand, and it said Sugarland are now a duo -- Kristen claims to have quit because touring was cutting into her time for writing, etc. Sorry, but I don't buy it. The article also hinted that Jennifer Nettles may wind up with a solo career. Given how Kristen and also goofy nerdy guy Kristian Bush seemed to occupy less and less camera time whenever Sugarland showed up on TV as the past year progressed, I'm really wondering to what extent the weirder looking members were being squeezed out of the picture. And I'm not sure who to blame it on, but whoever's doing it can kiss my ass.
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 20 February 2006 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link
>(the most and maybe only country thing about "breaking free" might be gabrielle aka vanessa anne hudgens's vocal inflections as her intensity picks up. i'm guessing if anybody on here has a future, it's her.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 20 February 2006 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 03:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― brianiast (briania), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link
listening to Scott Miller's "Citation" (that's a car which he borrows in the title song and in which he screws his girlfriend he's amazed he has). produced by Jim Dickinson, who has a real genius for recording drums, seems to me. so, sorta Earle-Cougar with more eccentric kick to it, probably belongs on this thread. definitely something like "Freedom's a Stranger" is "country music" or at least folkie country. touches of Mekons creep-oid guitar overlay in "Only Everything," and drums far more tribal and loose than anything attempted in Nashville (well, maybe Mark Nevers does it sometimes). I'm not especially big on Earle-Cougar heartland explorations of youth and age and all that--I have my moments with it and actually like Cougar better than Earle--but this is pretty good, esp. the blues-stomp "8 Miles a Gallon." "Cracker with a truck-stop whore," "invent a big engine, make it run on bullshit," you get the idea, I hope. somewhere in the Todd Snider territory, too. needs and deserves more listens but I like this guy, and sorry I missed his previous stuff. I think he's from Knoxville.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link
Discuss.
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 21 February 2006 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 February 2006 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link
-- There is a female country singer named "Bomshel" (as in bombshell, apparently) who has a debut album coming out on Curb this year.
--Bluegrass band Cherryholmes, who I think I may have heard once and was bored by, have one guy in overalls with a ZZ Top beard who looks like an insane biker that could be the kentucky headhunters' grandpa.
-- Also, there is a photo of Big & Rich jumping on a bed together.
(among other things).
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link
Willie Nelson, "Cowboys Are Frequently (Secretly Fond of Each Other)": Not as good as Ned Sublette's track on *New York Noise Vol. 2* (Soul Jazz, 2006). Also, not as good as anything on my favorite Willie Nelson album *Night and Day* (Free Falls Entertainment, 1999), which has no singing on it, interestingly enough. Disappointing. The way Willie says "fuck" is even clunkier than the rest of it. (6.5.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Anthony Easton, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm surprised to hear this Anthony - I've seen NC live three times now, and they're one of the best live acts I've had the pleasure of experiencing. Maybe that's changed in the past year, but their shows have always been sincere, exhuberant and a real artist-audience connection moment. Venues were great - Borderline, Academy Islington, Union Chapel (rip). Nothing smarmy IMHO, in fact, when they break out the acoustic finale section I'm always stunned into blissful silence and remember why the hell I bother with music at all.
― Abby (abby mcdonald), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Chuck, your take on Roseanne is the first dissenting view I've seen--everything I'm aware of has been laudatory. I haven't even heard it yet myself. Just sitting down with Marshall Chapman this evening, for real--had it on in the background a couple days ago and got involved in something else. However, I did snag a copy of her autobio "Goodbye Little Rock and Roller" from her publicist Tamara Saviano, who also got me a copy of the new Radney Foster--I've always kinda liked his work--and the "Rednecks and Bluenecks" book, in which Saviano plays a part: she was operations manager at the Great American Country cable channel, CMT's competition, and ran afoul of some right-wing attitudes re Charlie Daniels' "Open Letter to the Hollywood Bunch." She got the Daniels piece from a publicist, and she asked him to take her off that e-mail list, and then fired off a response to the publicist suggesting that perhaps Charlie might be due a boycott himself (this was around the time of the flap over Sean Penn and the Dixie Chicks). anyway, she got fired, since although technically the email wasn't a company thing, it did have her company signature at bottom. now she runs a little media/publicity company on Music Row, very nice person. and obviously, a Democrat. she won a Grammy for the Stephen Foster tribute CD "Beautiful Dreamer."
anyway, "Rednecks" is a good look at the politics of Nashville--superior journalism. and Marshall's book I've scanned, but it's funny, elegant, affecting, so far. looking forward to relaxing with "Mellowicious" tonight...
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link
has anyone heard battlestar america--they call themselves hick hop, and politically interesting (ie left), and aside from geography seem pretty standard hip hop, but they have flow, and the musics tight--mp3s here: http://www.b-star.net/what_we_do.html
― Anthony Easton, Thursday, 23 February 2006 05:40 (eighteen years ago) link
I've got the Battlestar America CD around here somewhere; impressed me not at all when I played it last year, but I'll try to try again.
Now listening to Brityn Lotz, *Straight Ahead* 2005 self-released/cdbaby-distributed pop-soul-country from Louisiana, a solid ten songs including good-enough covers of "I Feel the Earth Move" and "Knock on Wood," though the two best and most rocking tracks are clearly "Back to Lafeyette" (I swear I like pretty much any song that mentions "the Ponchatrain" and I STILL think it's a hotel in Detroit) and "One Eighty" (about a a lady having a midlife crisis and pulling a 180, lots of specifics therein). I also enjoy the early '80s MTV semitechnopop production of "Lightly" (about angels, yet it doesn't make me gag at all) and the talked part at the end of "I Don't Play That Game." Good album, not remotely shy about incorportating r&b.
>Chuck, your take on Roseanne is the first dissenting view I've seen--everything I'm aware of has been laudatory. <
Yeah well, not to cynical, Edd, but it's a *concept album (at least ostensibly) about Johnny Cash (and other country hall of famers in her family) dying.* "Laudatory" is kind of a foregone conclusion, isn't it? With that concept, she could've released a blank CD, and every country critic in the world would have gotten down on their knees and sung hosannas. (And the ones who don't give a shit won't review it anyway, right?) The album's okay -- not as dire and dreary as some stuff I've heard by Rosanne in the past two decades, which is an accomplishement, given the concept. But she was way better in 1981.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 February 2006 14:15 (eighteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 February 2006 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link
Birdie Bush seems more interesting to me. I need to take her home and put her in my CD changer with the new album by Espers, and figure out which (if any) has more Fairport Convention pastoral gorgeousness. (They're both from Philly, right? Where phreak pholk lives, I guess.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 February 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 February 2006 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link
By the way, for aficionados of the white-black conversation that Simon Reynolds thinks barely exists right now, "Rush" starts its drone w/ hip-hop/r&b beats accompanying it, but then shifts to rock beats for the rest of the song.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 23 February 2006 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link
Plus Bertha Payne telling that guy to get off the pot obviously also connects to whatever Millie Jackson LP pictured her on the toilet.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 23 February 2006 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, Chuck, Pinmonkey is pretty blah. I probably always give too much of a free ride to those kind of powerpoppy things, but altho "Big Shiny" is certainly nice and I quite like two or three songs, they have nothing to say. I just filed a Nash Scene piece on them, and so I have listened to their '02 Paul Worley record and the new one a lot. I can't discern any real difference. just formalists--shit, they can't even work up enuff anger in the song about not getting a good table to make it sound real. one of those records that sounds good until you listen close, then it still sounds good but why bother. they're Poco--in fact, they're doing a show here with Poco soon. "Lot of Leavin' Left to Do" does what Pinmonkey tries to do with much more power and commercial savvy, as does the best stuff on Dierks' last 'un. they need to find something to sing about, Pinmonkey does--like beer and trucks and stuff.
and Chuck, glad you're diggin' the Keith Anderson record. I still find some of it under- or badly sung, and that pederast-Jesus song still makes me gag, but it's grown on me over the last few months--esp. "Plan B," which I think you mentioned above.
and in total agreement about Roseanne Cash--she was far better twenty-five years ago. finally heard a few tracks from the new one, and I don't get the critical love--absolutely she's always gotten a free ride from critics. give me the feisty Carlene Carter any day.
and I finished the "Rednecks and Bluenecks" book. I recommend. the chapter on the history of country in wartime and election time, "Town & Country, Jungle & Trench," is great. Dave Dudley's '66 "Talkin' Vietnam Blues" and Harlan Howard's '68 album "To the Silent Majority, With Love," which contains the awesome lines: "They're needing you boy and you're sitting in your coffeehouse/Whatcha gonna do when your woman begs you save her from a mouse?" the fabled Nashville songwriting at its most trenchant.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 23 February 2006 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link
yikes! which track is this, edd?? guess i need to listen closer...
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 February 2006 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 24 February 2006 06:20 (eighteen years ago) link
anyone--suggest for me some Gene Watson. Old Gene Watson, I've heard his latest one. I was in Robert's Western World on Lower Broad last night having a beer and heard a really good band play some old Gene Watson tunes--"14-Carat Heart," I think one was called. I need to investigate him further, I think.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 24 February 2006 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link
kayla locicero, *beautiful world*, cdbaby teen-country from small-town louisiana. opens with its most interesting track, the part (sort-of)-rapped title cut, which starts with (literally) a giggle from kayla and from there is about her neighbors, one of whom is chinese and says kayla talks funny since she's from louisiana, and another of whom is jamaican and is learning english by listening to country radio in the cab he drives all night, plus another line rhymes "ph.D." with "aborigone" though i can't figure out why. later on kayla says "que pasa" and "por favor", so it's sweet if kinda condescending in its we-are-the-world-we-are-the-childen way. more evidence that either kayla or her songwriters might be liberal are the two rock songs about rebel girls: (1) "outside the lines", based on a glam-rock-i-guess riff (reminds me of the kings, though more likely swiped from the hollies or t.rex) and about a girl who "colors outside the lines, just a little to the left," but never really says how so maybe she's just bad with crayons and (2) "she's ready for a revolution," which naturally never specifies what the revolution consists of but its riff comes straight outta john cougar's "small town" all through so who cares. then there's a couple pretty good songs ("bobbi rae" and "what she wants") about apparently working women searching for meaning in their lives, which i THINK turns out to be finding a husband and a nuclear family in both though i'm not completely sure. then there's another MAYBE liberal one called "a little good news" which sounds kinda familiar (and yep, i just checked AMG, i must've heard the anne murray version before though br-459 did it too) where an anchorman says this war is wrong and people say the economy is bad and getting worse and there needs to be a change in policy so we need to start hearing all the good news about bad stuff that DIDN'T happen today, you know (but hey it beats the news song on terri clark's last album). and then there are sundry bluegrass-ish duets and mush-ish ballads including at least one song ("a brave new world") that i'm guessing concerns being born again and a weird one called "the halls of st. jude" that i didn't figure out yet (isn't he the patron saint of lost causes or something?) and one sappy thing ("it comes from you") that i really hate and one sappy song about how she loves her daddy (paper heart) that i hated at first but second time through it choked me up a little, hey gimme a break, i'm a dad too you know. spirited singing and hooks throughout.
― xhuxk, Friday, 24 February 2006 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link
-- Joseph McCombs (jmccomb...), February 14th, 2006.
YAY! Willie debuted this week at #52 on the Hot 100! He's not charting country and I doubt he will, but I'm as giddy as Clay Aiken at White Party right now. Glad to see that someone else who colors outside the lines and a LOT to the left is getting rewarded for his efforts.
― Joe McCombs, posting from SF, Friday, 24 February 2006 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 25 February 2006 05:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 25 February 2006 06:07 (eighteen years ago) link
thumbs down on birdie bush. basically devoid of energy, and not as pretty as it should be.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 25 February 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link
New Garrison Starr: still folkie-indie-country, but weirder than her last one, which is a good thing.
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 25 February 2006 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 25 February 2006 23:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 25 February 2006 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link
shedaisy has recorded two versions of american housewife, i think--since the soundtrack that it first appeared on said american, and the video up north here says canadian--is this interesting.
whats the jessi colter called?
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 26 February 2006 00:08 (eighteen years ago) link
anthony, you rank with the most cryptic people on earth. how *what* doesn't work anymore? (plenty of hippies were rednecks in the '70s, right? or was that your point?)
also, you mean in canada the shedaisy song is called "canadian housewife"? that's wacky!
― xhuxk, Sunday, 26 February 2006 01:01 (eighteen years ago) link
there is nostalgia i have noticed recently in criticism, for this 70s nostalgia, where rednecks and hippies would hang out--and the sadness that doesnt happen anymore, which i think is interesting.
that is what i mean.
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 26 February 2006 02:49 (eighteen years ago) link
and is it a way for liberals, to allow themselves to like country--is there an elitest foregrounding of this kind of music (ie the talk here of willie, bobby bare, jessi colter, etc) instead of more conserative voices?
or am i talking out of my ass?
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 26 February 2006 09:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Anyway, it's a great, dynamic CD, produced by John Rich, with several of the songs co-written by Rich and Vicky McGehee (though Shannon gets co-credit for several herself). Like Gretchen she's much less comfortable with ballads than up-tempo stuff at this point - "Turn to Me" is pretty compelling but "Something Good" is kinda bleh and there's the redundant presence of "Why" which was on Jason Aldean's record from last year (and a minor hit too I think).
The party songs are clearly the best though, the very "All Jacked Up"-sounding "I Love 'Em All," the conceptually brilliant and blasphemous "High Horses" where she pledges allegiance to Sheryl Crow over Dolly Parton, and especially "Good Ole Days" which has a killer Zep-disco breakdown in the middle.
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Sunday, 26 February 2006 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link
the guy who wrote Sunday Money, Jeff MacGregor, spelled this out explicitly in a great piece on Salon last week, about how the Dems needed not only to court the NASCAR fanbase but maybe also needed an infusion of some of that populist larger-than-life spirit. of course, a healthy number of the commenters called him an idiot and continued to assert that the Dems shouldn't cater to a bunch of redneck trash.
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Sunday, 26 February 2006 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link
re Shannon Brown (xp):(The first few songs of whose album sound really really good by the way. An "Okee From Muskogee" update about how we don't lock our doors and nobody burns flags on the courthouse lawn and there's only country stations out here and we don't keep anybody who lives out here out whatever the heck that means, a funkier one about she's a little woman who needs a big man not a mack-daddy pimp like you {I think she answers somebody who calls her a "ho" in it, too}, a song about people are wrong to say Garth and Shania aren't country 'cause that's what they used to say about Johnny Cash but she likes Steve Miller and Sheryl Crow and Kid Rock too and isn't it great how Kenny Chesney's laughing all the way to the bank so why don't we all get along -- all rocking country with fiddles in the groove, and yeah, lots of dumbass pandering in the words but what else is new? Now I'm on "Can I Get an Amen" which sounds EXACTLY like some big '70s rock song -- "Listen to the Music" by the Doobie Brothers, maybe? Then it turns into something by BTO, I think, "Roll On Down the Highway," maybe?; whatever it is, it definitely outrocks the Doobie Brothers, and then it winds down to more fiddles then handclap gospel acapella.)
--xhuxk, (xedd,,), November 23, 2005
(Fiddle break in Shannon Brown's "Corn Fed" quotes Black Dog riff...-- Sang Freud (jstrell...), November 24th, 2005.
"Good Ole Days" (track #8 on the Shannon Brown album) = the most over-the-top 1979 disco on any country album, maybe ever (or at least since, like, 1980 or so).-- xhuxk (xedd...), November 24th, 2005.
> over-the-top 1979 disco<Or 1976 disco. Or somewhere in there. (Do your own callibrations at will.)
-- xhuxk (xedd...), November 25th, 2005.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 26 February 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link
Shannon Brown, "Corn Fed." A good solid "Gloria"/"Sister Ray"–three-chorder, lite style, though marred by the usual lying xenophobic, chauvinist lyrics about the innocence and safety of the rural heartland. Someone should prevail upon Shannon to record "Sister Ray," or Shooter's "Daddy's Farm," or that Darryl Worley song from a couple years back about the heartland drug town.-- Frank Kogan (edcasua...), December 27th, 2005.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 26 February 2006 16:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Sunday, 26 February 2006 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link
one of the points that Willman makes in "Rednecks & Bluenecks," Anthony, is that the '70s Outlaw movement was perhaps the last time in Nashville that country music and "liberalism" really joined hands. one of the virtues of this book, if you ask me, is the way he presents a lot of different viewpoints, so you come away feeling, as I think you should, not so damned sure of yourself when you think about someone like Garth Brooks. if you think as I do, you like a lot of Garth's music but dislike his image, like the way he took on Nashville's power brokers but dislike the obsession and confusion about what to do with that power. I can't say this or repeat it enough, and some of you have heard me say this before so forgive me, but what happens in Nashville is uniquely deforming of the process of making and marketing and thinking about music. the city itself is exploding--becoming a world-class town, finally, the only southern city to compete with Atlanta in that regard. when I moved away in 1991, it was still pretty relaxed and you could get from east Nashville to Belle Meade in twenty minutes. no more of that. and as my pal Marky St. James pointed out last night, Nashville's full of people like the Swedish guitar-teacher-virtuoso-ph.D. who got on a plane to come live here and play Telecaster--it's what New York and L.A. have been in the past, as music center (altho NYC will always be the capital of jazz in the world...) I think someone's gonna come along here and do something as big as what Garth did, in perhaps a different area of "country music," seems inevitable to me...
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 26 February 2006 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link
>what happens in Nashville is uniquely deforming of the process of making and marketing and thinking about music<
Not sure I get what you're saying here, Edd; how is it more deforming etc than the rest of the music biz (including indie labels, for that matter)? Assuming the biz is deforming at all, which I'm not entirely convinced about (although there's plenty of evidence to the contrary in the book I HAVE been reading -- Jen Trynin's *Everything I'm Cracked Up to Me,* which is hilarious and I highly recommend, and I say that as somebody with very little use of '90s alt-rock and very little time to read books about music, especially rock biographys. I wonder if the Commander Cody or Babes in Toyland books were this good). Most evidence I've seen in the past couple years suggests that Nashville has a pretty good knack for leaving great music intact, or at least no less a knack than anybody else has. Though maybe that's beside your point; I'm really not sure. (Also not sure what it is about Garth's image you dislike, unless you just mean his larger than life hubris, which at this point seems sillier and sillier as he proves not nearly as big as he used to be or he thought he was, in which case your dislike makes perfect sense. Plus, I just remembered that I've still yet to get around to playing his new CD, so, uh, maybe I hate what he stands for, too.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 26 February 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link
actually, i guess you do kind of explain what bothers you about Garth here...
― xhuxk, Sunday, 26 February 2006 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 26 February 2006 17:50 (eighteen years ago) link
= evidence that the biz IS deforming (which I usually assume it isn't, really, all that much.) On other other hand, as charming as Trynin is, she often sounds like she's just whining. And I'm still stumped why bizzers ever figured she'd be big in the first place. But maybe it's just that I've always noticed so much great music coming out of the biz *despite* its machinations that I just assume those machinations are, in the long run, basically inept.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 26 February 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 26 February 2006 18:04 (eighteen years ago) link
yeah, the book does that, very well, its deconstructive in a way that is genorous in its critique...but i do think there is something about making the outlaw/hippie powwow much larger then it really was.
how much of it charted, for example, and how well it charted (i think, and i may be wrong, and i have been wrong, the only song that charted is the redneck/hippie romance tune by bobby bare, and that didnt break the top 50)
the only problem i had with the entire book, in fact, and its a meme that has been annoying me in general, adn it was really kind of underplayed in the book anyways
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 27 February 2006 03:32 (eighteen years ago) link
My other prejudice is that when middle budget product disappears (you either have things with a lot of money and advertising and cross marketing behind it, or things with very little), that this isn't good. (But I'm thinking of movies here, not so sure how to apply it to records.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 27 February 2006 05:49 (eighteen years ago) link
should be "makes them LESS insular"
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 27 February 2006 05:50 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, well that's because little girls constitute the sociocultural vanguard. Followers and fellow travelers like me are always playing catchup. I was in 1966, and I still am. (But the "Rush" video wasn't until this year, and that automatically qualifies the song for 2006.)
the greatest Fairport Convention Celtic drone-rock I've heard from the '00s is the verse to Aly & AJ's "Rush"
My use of "Celtic" - probably anyone's use of "Celtic" in regard to music - is probably wrong here, since I doubt very much that Celtic origins have anything to do with why the music sounds the way it does. But my ideas here are based completely on what I remember from Peter van der Merwe's brief discussion of the origins of modern European music, which I read several years ago. Van der Merwe's idea (he presented it as if this was the standard belief among music historians, which it may well be) was that European music 1,000 years ago had basically derived from the Middle East, but that it was subsequently supplanted in urban centers by the do-re-mi scale, which then spread to most of the continental countryside but didn't spread to rural Britain and Ireland. So rural Irish, Scottish, Welsh music didn't sound the way it did because it was Celtic, but just because it was rural, and if you were rural and Anglo-Saxon your music would sound like that too.
And what's interesting here is that some similarities between Northern and Western African music and Scots-Irish music aren't just coincidence, but because those musics have at least some elements that originated in the Middle East. When those musics started running up against each other in the U.S. South, there were natural affinities already there.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 27 February 2006 06:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 27 February 2006 06:12 (eighteen years ago) link
John Shanks produced and played on about half of the songs, but didn't write any of them, and his half aren't any better than the other. He ought to be forbidden to work with any performer older than 25 years, since they dull him out.
(Shanks had nothing to do with that great AJ & Aly song, but it follows a pattern that he and Michelle Branch created in 2001.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 27 February 2006 06:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 27 February 2006 11:14 (eighteen years ago) link
er, didn't willie nelson have a hit or two? (and commader cody, and asleep at the wheel, and lots of others any of us could name if we took the time, not to mention "longhaired redneck" by david allen coe and "longhaired country boy" by charlie daniels, and a whole bunch of southern rock bands?) or am i totally missing the point about the powwow in question?
― xhuxk, Monday, 27 February 2006 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 27 February 2006 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link
how long did the outlaw movement last, from when to whenwho were t he outlaws how long did the countrypolitan movement last, from when to whenwho were the countrypolitian
how large, in terms of sales were outlawhow large in terms of sales were countrypolitanhow large in terms of radio play were outlaw how large in terms of radio play were countrypolitan ditto for concert revenue, and media concentration
how much of a cross over (songwriters, perormers, etc) were between various kinds of country music,
how does the folk revival impact these numbers irt the hippie qoutient.
why, amongst certain cultural critics, has the outlaw movement become such a peice of nostalgia. is there an equal amount of nostalgia amongst current nashville perfomers (ie Paisley or Keith) (Rednecks and Bluenecks hints at the Keith connections, but rarely mentions Paisley, who I think may be a key to this)
how legitmate is the idea that outlaw country worked in musical and geographic oppostion to music row (ie Austin vs Nashville)
how does Johnny Cash fit into all of this?
What about Bakersfield.
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 27 February 2006 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link
when i went to new-student orientation for the university of missouri before my sophomore college year 1979, i asked some kids i met what kinda music they liked, and they said "progressive country," which i *think* mainly meant outlaw music and southern rock. i wonder if that genre name was ever commonly used, and if so where, and for how long.
>how direct is the line b/w outlaw, and alt country <
Didn't we talk about this for a while on that No Depression thread?
― xhuxk, Monday, 27 February 2006 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link
This is actually a really good question, though, I think. I kind of get the idea that the "opposition" might be more myth than reality.
― xhuxk, Monday, 27 February 2006 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link
No Depression Top 40 of 2005
― xhuxk, Monday, 27 February 2006 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 27 February 2006 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 27 February 2006 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 27 February 2006 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 27 February 2006 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link
Dunno if it's on the racks yet, but the new No Depression features Edd's fine speculative essay on pop and country, so don't miss it. (The title, which I assume wasn't the author's idea, is kinda huh?) Also David Cantwell on a bunch of Haggard two-fers. However, Don McLeese, who I like and respect, is just wrong about the new Van Morrison.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 27 February 2006 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link
Roy: So did McLeese like the Van Morrison album? Do you? And if so, why? Struck me as a pointless snoozefest; did I miss something?
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 February 2006 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link
I haven't heard the old Gene Watson, but I think Gene Watson ...Sings, the album that came out a couple years ago, is far superior to the latest one: stronger songs, stronger lyrics that go from hilarious to heart-wrenching. His steady big-but-casual voice keeps everything on an even keel; much beauty in the singing, but not in a way that shouts "BEAUTY" at you. If his back catalog has enough good material, this guy may be a major artist who's been generally overlooked - possibly because his style isn't the type that's thought of as "major."
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 28 February 2006 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, Chris Cagle's new single which just hit the country chart at #56 is "Walmart Parking Lot," which I remember liking on his album, so maybe I should pull his album back out.
My favorite album in the world this week is Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band's *Hammersmith Odeon, London '75.* No kidding. I forgot how much he used to love Mitch Ryder! And about time somebody acknowledged "Come A Little Bit Closer" by Jay and the Americans (missing link between "El Paso" and "Gimme Three Steps," as everyone knows.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link
Paisley: the music is pleasant enough, with a nice little stroll to it, but it's the lyrics that make him interesting (to the extent he is interesting). The ones that popped into my head were the dead flowers one. Marry me or I will kill this flower!
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 00:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 00:55 (eighteen years ago) link
(And speaking of marketing plans, nobody ever answered my Sugarland conspiracy theory up above. Does that mean everybody thinks I'm nuts?)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link
heard a song called a six pack from perfect on the radio today, i made a joke about country being the soundtrack to functional alocholism(sp)but the song was great--does anyone know who did it.
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link
Might be both, actually. But yeah, butch is what I had in mind.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 16:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link
Willie 92.5. Wide Open Country
So, a friend of mine is driving me home, and she puts on Willie and the first song we hear is "Kerosene." Then some sentimental slow songs I don't recognize.
The playlist seems to be modern country and old tracks in a mix, perhaps leaning towards the rock end of each, maybe keeping an ear to what the satellite stations are doing. According to their Website (they stream their signal, if you're interested), these are the last five tracks they played:
DESPERADOClint Black
THE LUCKY ONEFaith Hill
A THOUSAND MILES FROM NOWHEREDwight Yoakam
MY BABY LOVES MEMcBride, Martina
THAT AIN'T MY TRUCKRhet Akins
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link
xp, chuck, my ramblin' above about "deforming aspects of Nashville biz." well, it seems to me that since N-ville is all about song publishing--that's the engine that drives it--that right there is a "deforming aspect" of the biz. the constant need to feed singers with songs that might or might not fit their persona? and I think that the other big thing is the notorious practice here of using those studio musicians, which I am not saying is by definition a bad thing, since they're the best in the world.
the other big thing is the *oppositional* quality that arises here, with anyone who doesn't fit into the machine, as they say...which seems to me *needlessly* oppositional. I can't tell you how many times I've been embroiled in some ridiculous conversation about how some big country act of another spells the end of musical civilization...plus, any *rock* or, name yr. genre that ain't country, act that tries to make it in Nashville has a hard time, because of that machinery, and because they define themselves in *opposition* to it instead of going with it, or ignoring it , or whatever.
but that's changing a little bit, seems to me.
and too, I wrote that in response to the book I was reading, the "Rednecks &" book, which is good, but which is also a bit dizzying--you come away even more unsure of all the political-social relationships here. I suppose all music-biz encourgages cynicism in those who are part of it, but I would say that there's a kind of *genteel cynicism* in Nashville that's unique, and maybe that's all I was trying to express. Because I never want to be one of those people who rails against the "music biz" and all that. and I think you're right Chuck--Nashville does leave good music "intact." I think it's the "gestalt" if you will, the *attitude* the town has toward itself, the world, and so forth, that is "uniquely deforming," you get the sense that they oughta concentrate more on music and less on mythologizing itself, but then where would the fun lie in that? and which ties into Garth Brooks. and I know that for a large part of the musical community here, country music is something they wish would go away.
this is what happens when I read books...
so has anybody heard the Tres Chicas record that ND writes about? any comments about the Kristofferson piece by Friskics-Warren in the current issue? I talked to Bill at length about this record, and don't agree with him at all--but think it's a fine piece/defense of a record I find just *not there*. as for that title for the ND essay, Roy--yeah, that was Mr. Alden. nice photo of Sara Evans, though, that photogenic little thang...
multiple xps---back to this Shawn Camp record....
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, country doesn't look so bad in that area when compared to hip-hop, or mainstream rock, or metal, or indie (see: asinine reactions to Liz Phair still having a sex drive), or teenpop, or certain other genres to be named later. (Though basically, I still agree with you.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 1 March 2006 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link
I excoriated it above. I over-stated the case, I think, but I was right about ND going for it. Musically it's got more texture than I allowed, but no heft. And the original songs are mostly pretty bad, even if you have more tolerance for mixed metaphors than I do.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 1 March 2006 20:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 2 March 2006 06:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 3 March 2006 06:45 (eighteen years ago) link
the first song, "too good to be true", on alecia nugent's new rounder album *a little girl...a big four line* is super catchy and energetic pop bluegrass in the tradition of, say, ricky skaggs's "highway 40 blues," but i don't hear anything else on the rest of her album that compares. a few tracks seem possibly okay, though. i need to listen more. as far as i know, she is unrelated to ted, but maybe i'm wrong.
got a new album in the mail by a new black woman country singer named rhonda towns, and it *didn't* come via cdbaby channels. the press packet says "she entered and won Alpha Phi Alpha fraternity's Miss Black Culture Pageant" and "she enjoyed the honor to perform at the First Annual Black Country Music Show in Atlanta, Georgia" (which I never heard of, and which I'd like to learn more about) and she has appeared on BET, "providing some audience members with their first real exposure to country music." interesting. except so far, the album is boring me -- very adult-contemporary reba mcentire style. but that's what i initially thought about miko marks up above, too, and i turned out to be wrong. so i'll keep listening. i just noticed she covers "slow rain" by dobie gray (who made has made good country albums himself), not to mention a version of "the lord's prayer."
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link
Soon I'll have more to contribute than silly ND alerts.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link
"The third annual Black Country Music Special took place at the AaronDavis Hall Theatre in New York City Feb. 14. The event, whichcoincides with Black History Month, featured artists such as Big AlDowning, Will Glover, Vicki Vann and K.C. Williams"
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link
it seems all I've done over the last few days is listen to the Kinks and Ray Davies, for something I'm cooking up here. but I have lent an ear to some of Radney Foster's new one "This World We Live In." and I'll say that the first track, "Drunk on Love," is actually funky and rips off Sheryl Crow and Nilsson's "Coconut," and he talks his way thru some of it, has a nice unpretentious voice...altho he does say "bidness" and I'm not sure about that. anyway, what he seems to be going for is pub-rock or the Fab Thunderbirds with Nick Lowe kinda-thing as on "Big Love." it seems to thin out pretty quickly, and I'm not sure that his voice, unpretentious as it is, can really sustain.
thx for the take on Tres, Roy, I must've missed your comments upthread. I don't think the songs are any good, nice "textures."
and I like Daniell Howle's "Thank You Mark." nicely jazzy. which come to think of it might mean not much, but it's pleasant. it's in the stack along with Jessi's record, Shawn Camp, etc.
and I really have grown attached to Jamey Johnson's record. in fact got myself a jones for it for a while. and ended up liking Scott Miller's "Citation" quite a lot, which suprised me. Dickinson's production really helps, of course, but I think his songs are good, especially the one about Sam Houston and the I'm-in-Iraq-but-Jody's-fucking-my-girlfriend song (and Scott'll get her back, Jody, so enjoy it while you can).
finally, I recommend the new Numero female-obscuro-folkie comp "Ladies from the Canyon." the repros of the album covers, and the liners, are worth the price, but shit, some of the music ain't any worse than the folkie stuff that made it out into the world. some better. and Ellen Warshaw, who was the only one to make it to a halfway big label (Vanguard) landed here in Nashville, where she runs a B&B, works as a massage therapist, and still writes songs. her version of "Sister Morphine" isn't really worse than Faithfull's...
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 3 March 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― cracktivity1 (cracktivity1), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, he's not, not anymore. He was in 2003, though.
Here's what I wrote about his last album:
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0337,eddy,46856,22.html
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 3 March 2006 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link
*Edd, could you tell me a bit more about the SSS / Silver Fox stuff? Mostly I know those labels for their soul output*
well, that's pretty much what I know, Tim. Sundazed put out two comps last year of SSS/Silver Fox stuff. "My Goodnes, Yes!" is the better of the two, by far, concentrating on Silver Fox material. the big name is Bettye LaVette, who did all her Silver Fox recording with the Dixie Flyers in Memphis. and as far as I'm concerned (having just gotten 3 discs, put together by LaVette's manager/husband, of the bulk of her work from the early '60s thru about '82, with some very nice stuff done on an Atlantic session unreleased in the USA but somehow or another avaiable in Europe) that's her best period. anyway, the other Sundazed comp, "Shake What You Brought," is far less compelling, lots of lame retreads of the fashionable sounds of the era. there's also a Kent 20-cut comp called "Cryin' in the Streets" that contains many songs not on the Sundazed, including Calvin Leavy's "Cummins Prison Farm" which is a great companion piece to Bobby Womack's 1970 "Arkansas State Prison." Shelby Singleton just grabbed up anything he could find, so it's really inconsistent, but "My Goodness" has a couple of really nice Robert Parker Allen Toussaint songs on it.
and George did good on that Hank III record in the Voice. Hank Jr. wouldn't have done it that way.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 3 March 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link
I'll have a glance at the Sundazed CDs, but I want to know more about the country stuff these people recorded.
What I know about this country soul stuff comes from the sleeve notes of Charly reissues from the 80s, and from Barney Hoskyns's book "Say It One Time For The Brokenhearted: The Country Side of Southern Soul" which isn't faultless but is very useful.
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 3 March 2006 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 3 March 2006 18:26 (eighteen years ago) link
Heh heh, hate to do this again, but:
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 3 March 2006 19:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link
** - http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0148,couch,30258,22.html
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 22:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 3 March 2006 22:39 (eighteen years ago) link
A la Eddy Grant, if that wasn't already obvious.
Turns out the Cowboy Troy soundalike rapper, Dolio the Sleuth, IS also their turntablist, and he's probably not as inept at the latter as I suggest above; his scratching sounds less clumsy on subsequent listens. Six other people (all lighter skinned than Dolio) in the band. Singers are Rench (male) and Veronica Dougherty (female). Bass player is named "gAOl."
― xhuxk, Saturday, 4 March 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 4 March 2006 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link
OK, today's booty from the library consists of Lizzie McGuire, DVD, episodes 12 through 22; Talk to Her, a film by Pedro Almodóvar; The Dukes of Hazzard (CD not DVD); Buddy Jewell Times Like These. I suspect that the Jewell and the Almodóvar won't qualify as teenpop, though I haven't listened or watched yet, and you never know. I'll report back on Lizzie McGuire (so far Hilary Duff is a complete cipher to me, even though I love "Come Clean" and "Fly"). Which leaves The Dukes of Hazzard, which I've had on continuous play all afternoon and is chock full of greatness, including as its leadoff (speaking of booty) a very strange and spooky version of "These Boots Are Made for Walkin'" by Jessica Simpson. What it is (speaking of the conversation between black and white that Simon Reynolds doesn't think exists right now) is a Jam & Lewis dance track, almost all of it treble percussion and handclap, Jessica making her voice uncharacteristically thin, sketching in the melody, with banjo and harmonica occasionally inserted, a bit of guitar from Willie Nelson, almost no bottom. And it leads into maybe the most searing Allman Brothers song ever, "One Way Out," and for the rest of the album (with the exception of a negligible Willie cut at the end) you've got blistering '70s Southern rock by the likes of Skynyrd and Hatchett and Vaughan and Daniels (speaking of black-white conversations from the past), and blistering recent faux Southern rock by the Blueskins and the Blues Explosion that matches the Allmans song in quality and actually outdoes the Skynyrd, Hatchett, Vaughn, Daniels stuff. And - speaking of bubblegum as Southern rock or vice versa (producers Kasenetz & Katz, the fellows who'd brought us "Yummy Yummy Yummy" and "Chewy Chewy" and "1, 2, 3 Red Light") - there's Ram Jam's "Black Betty," which is 120 years of American stomp condensed into three minutes. The Blueskins and Blues Explosion tracks totally floor me. The only thing I know about the Blueskins is they're Yorkshire Brits on the same label as the Arctic Monkeys. Their song - "Change My Mind - starts with an acoustic slide, but in its heart it's scrappy slimy vinyl-pants L.A. sleaze metal (which was the teenpop of the late '80s). The Blues Explosion's "Burn It Off" reminds me of the Johnny Thunders Heartbreakers, a great Stonesy groove but with a girl-groupish call-and-response type poppiness. I don't know if Jon Spencer quite has the voice for what he's trying to do, but Thunders didn't either, yet it worked often enough and so does this. I've got one Blues Explosion album that I played a couple of times and set aside for its being too distant and mannered, but maybe I need to go back and rethink it. I'd liked Spencer's sense of humor back in Pussy Galore.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 04:04 (eighteen years ago) link
>the *dukes of hazzard* soundtrack is an excellent if somewhat obvious collection of redneck rock of many stripes, though even i can't stand jessica's breathy "boots" remake. only recent country artist on it is montgomery gentry, whose "hillbilly shoes" is better than i'd remembered. but there's also allmans, skynyrd, molly hatchet, james gang, stevie ray vaughn, cdb ("south's gonna do it again" always amazes me by how JAZZY it is -- it basically turns into glen miller in the middle!), and the completely insane looong version of ram jam' s "black betty", which my otherwise now wu tang obsessed kid sherman made me play six times in the rentacar this weekend (he'd never heard it before. he hated molly hatchet's singer, though, and whenever montgomery gentry came on he said "is this big & rich"?) also a dirty southern culture on the skids party number that blowfly or hasil adkins would appreciate, a typically worthless piece of blackface bullshit by jon spencer, and a rocking cowpunk tune by the blueskins, who i never heard of before. anybody know who they are?(i do think "boots" by jessica is "interesting", i guess. kelefah wrote a pretty smart review of it in the times friday; it's quite the montage, with that reggae dancehall beat and all. but i could give a fuck for most reggae dancehall beats, you know? and britney did the same montage better in her 'i got that {boom boom}' ying yang and banjo collab last year. and i wish jessica sang instead of getting hushy {just like i wish the ying yangs weren't getting hushy so much lately}; she has a reasonably tolerable singing voice {not as cool as her sister's, but what the heck}; why not use it? plus ram jam's extended 'black betty' has a WAY better and more surprising hoedown in the middle, believe you me; whoever i decided to include it on this album is probably a genius.)-- xhuxk (xedd...), July 25th, 2005.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 5 March 2006 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 5 March 2006 17:16 (eighteen years ago) link
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Erin Condo, *Leaving Songs* (Joyland Music): not boring at allBut Haikunym is OTM about Buddy Jewell
-- xhuxk (xedd...), April 19th, 2005.
And I just finished reading Werner's pan from last year of the Buddy Jewell album (and listening to said snooze of an album). So where did I get the idea he was critically respected?
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 5 March 2006 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 6 March 2006 15:51 (eighteen years ago) link
one last time listening to Tres Chicas. it's so obviously the kind of folkie-jazz they used to make in the '70s. I detect no feeling at all; in fact, something about this reminds me of the Association, except not as lively. "Man of the people flying first class" indeed. This is like eating a whole bag of yogurt-covered malted-milk balls in the parking lot of Whole Foods. the electric-piano textures are particularly annoying. if the whole record had been at the tempo of the last song, "It's All Right," I might actually be able to listen to it again. but I give it points as one of the most anachronistic records of the year, hints of the New Seekers except the New Seekers were smart enough to cover Roy Wood and Richard Thompson. Roy's right upthread, if this is ND listeners' idea of fonk-ee with them purty harmonies on top, which is what I get from the way the rhythm section interacts and the way you can almost hear the guitarist grinning as he makes a few "rude" noises in "It's All Right," then it is indeed flat-line-the-audience time... xp
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 6 March 2006 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link
the brokeback soundtrack, with 2(!) rufus wainwright songs, and the argentine playing leone, should be much worse then it is, rufus covers king of the road in a really hard way, w/o the decadence or cabaret loucheness that i expect of him.
the new neko album could have been amazing, and her skills as a photogrpaher suprised (she did the interior cover art) and i have listended to it four or five times, and i still remain undecided, my review will be for left hip this time, and well we will see what i think in the end, im really ambigous about it right now.
there is a strange essay in this weeks london review of books, found here, in a round about way about the myth of johnny cash, that i think bitches about the lack of authencitiy, but remains unsettled, but i think that having someone willing to deconstruct the cult around cash's sainthood, to talk about how much he liked money, to point out his sentimentality is a really impt thing--as i think it is to talk about vivian, how badly he treated her, and ias an extension,much domestic shit that june had to do , how much june gave up[ her life for his: heres the article :http://lrb.co.uk/v28/n05/sans01_.html
there is a new comp of junes work with johnny out there, i bought it for 12 bucks canadian, so it must be basically free in america, and i think as something that foregrounds her contributions is really impt to have, and its got a really precise mix.
big and rich are playing stadia here, and in calgary--are they that big, or will their be lots of empty seats?
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 04:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 05:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 11:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 7 March 2006 19:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 04:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 05:03 (eighteen years ago) link
I'd be so happy if more music crits assessed things this way. Hearts.
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 05:47 (eighteen years ago) link
no i think tim's right, the problem is with hooks. the bands are ok, the sadies especially (i'm not a huge sadies fan, but i think they back up neko pretty well). i think fox confessor is about 3/4 good. but good isn't great, and the 1/4 that isn't even good bogs the rest down. she's idiosyncratic and all, but i can't help liking her best when she treats herself to a real actual tune.
the album also isn't country or even alt-country or anything particularly related to either.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 05:48 (eighteen years ago) link
kelly hogan and neko case should have blown the roof off of everything in site. it didnt.
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 06:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:21 (eighteen years ago) link
yeah. i still think they need to do a gospel album together. or maybe a collection of girl-group covers. or both.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't get this, though. Ten tracks in 34 mintues is a BETTER investment than 14 tracks in 50 minutes including a load of crap. Seems to me this is the length most albums SHOULD be. (I was gonna say most "country" albums, but why limit it to country? Country just tends to have a better grasp of economy than most genres these days.)
Also, fwiw, I've never been much of a fan of other records Radney Foster's been involved in (though maybe that just means I haven't heard enough of them, or I haven't noticed his involvement.) (And Matt is right to point out that Foster's involvement is limited here.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
the only really good song on Radney is the first one. kinda like Stealer's Wheel or something. it's a strange record that has an '80s production esthetic. sort of like a minor Edmunds or Lowe record, I guess--but not as funny, and I don't think Foster writes as well as Lowe. maybe he should just do covers, like Edmunds? I dunno. he's in Nashville, he is a songwriter. no patch on Elizabeth McQueen--they ought to get together.
speaking of Ms. McQueen, I wish I was flying to Texas so I could attend the Pub Rock Hoot Night on the 12th. her SXSW postcard says she has a version of "Cruel to Be Kind" at www.elizabethmcqueen.com/mp3/cruel.mp3
not happy about what's happening at the Scene here. Bill's gonna be missed.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link
I've read about the comparison of the album having a "Stonesy" sound, but i think that comes more from Don Was' loose, expansive production. The whole record has a nice & gritty, greasy feel to it, and the songs really stick in the brain without being cheap at all. I think it's just a brutally "honest" record. Was's production, again, is top-notch, and Ray Kennedy's engineering is just as good. The musicians are some of the best in the business, too. Most of all, though, Colter really puts her own stamp on this music. Honestly, I can't believe her voice is still this good. In fact, it's even better than her 70s work, in some ways. I guess she aged like a nice bottle of wine. All in all, this is the most impressive set i've heard yet this year. First listen and you're impressed. Three listens and you're blown away. It's a must-but piece, IMO. Great to see her back and so solid.
― jakobransom, Thursday, 9 March 2006 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=1702714&page=1&CMP=OT
― xhuxk, Friday, 10 March 2006 03:37 (eighteen years ago) link
Holy goddamn shit! I'm now on my third Marit Larsen track, "Only a Fool," and this one is the country song of the year so far. It'd be too "quirky" or something to ever get country airplay even if country programmers in the U.S. heard it, and I doubt that Marit's trying to get country play, but it's got a banjo or a mandolin or both, a wonderfully catchy rhythm that dominates the start, great hand-clapping; the song drives forward but wiggles sideways at the same time with little twinkletoe steps. And, true to form, the words make it yet another I'm-not-going-back-to-you song, sung in the same happy sly chirp as always: "Well, I say I found the letters you wrote/Mine was the smile and the life that you broke/Mine was the story that you told your friends/Yours were the demons you couldn't defend." Then she goes, "Understand me as of lately I've learned a thing or two," and the twist she puts on "two" could be Miranda Lambert or Natalie Maines. Her voice is a lot smaller than theirs, and I wouldn't say it has a lot of emotional juice - she's not a wailer - but she has a superb instinct for knowing when to insert an extra syllable into a word, when to let another word fall nonchalantly, when to add a momentary, wispy cry.
I'll tell you, the other songs on here will have to be complete dogs for this album not to make my Pazz & Jop ballot. (Assuming I get to hear the album. Amazon doesn't yet know of it, at least in the U.S. Not that I could afford an import album.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 10 March 2006 05:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 10 March 2006 05:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 10 March 2006 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link
Meanwhile, I'm listening to *I Know You Feel It,* self-released 2004 album by Blazing Country featuring the Lybarger Family, a six-member Missouri family band (i.e, near as I can tell, Blazing Country ARE the Lybarger family -- a mom and a dad and their three sons and one daugher, apparently) discovered on cdbaby (but not LISTENED TO there -- see, that's how much an old-school asshole I am; even with cdbaby bands, I drop them a note and don't listen until I get the CD in my grubby little hands, even though I COULD listen to their music right there on the cdbaby page. You know, I'd rather listen while I'm doing other things but take little notes on the CD cover while the CD's spinning. And not stream a song at a time, which isn't accidental enough and never works like a CD playing through in the background etc etc etc and don't give me shit about it because I've got fingers plugging my ears okay?) Anyway. Blazing Country. Best stuff is either hard/sometimes-fast/somewhat-dark country rock sung by son Dallas(opener "Doin' Time" with tough words and mood worthy of Montgomery Gentry, "Drivin Around Texas With You," maybe "That Left One" which unlike the Bikini Kill obscenity suggested by its title is actually apparently about a guy getting stood Gilbert O'Sullivan style up at the altar) or boppier, poppier, Diddley/Willie & Hand Jive/"Faith"/jitterbug-swing-beat stuff sung by daughter Dana ("Thing Called Love" and "Have I Got Blues for You," both probably a little too lite somehow, and "No More Excuses," which may well be the best song on the album and where Dana Lybarger--who to my eyes looks quite cute and curvy on the cover--comes closest vocally to Natalie/Miranda territory.) I like how these people mix the modern tough-guy redneck rock thing with the cute swing nostalgia; is anybody else doing that?
― xhuxk, Friday, 10 March 2006 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 10 March 2006 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link
I dunno, Chuck -- keep the songs on your desktop or in a close to hand iPod and you'll definitely live with them, as I've found. But I understand the comfort of experience.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 10 March 2006 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link
(This Marit thing Frank mentions is of interest. Scandinavians have a good way around that, I've noticed.)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 10 March 2006 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 10 March 2006 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link
http://countrymusic.about.com/b/a/250118.htm#more
awards show held in Vegas this spring.
Album of Year nominees:
Rascal Flatts, Feels Like TodayLee Ann Womack, There's MoreBrad Paisley, Time Well WastedGary Allan, Tough All OverSugarland, Twice the Speed of Life
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 10 March 2006 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 11 March 2006 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 11 March 2006 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 11 March 2006 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link
enjoying jace everett, so far. it's quite a collection of somewhat off-the-wall guitar effects, interesting guitar chromatics (as in the first song), definitely a '70s pop thing happening; and in my mode of concurrent listening (lately it's been dusty springfield/the latest numero group comp of obscure '70s female singers/the new, beautiful nara leão bossa "nara '67"; and jace/radney foster/jessi colter, partly because they all have cool first names, I guess) I notice that both radney and jace hark back to stiff records, which I find interesting.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 11 March 2006 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 11 March 2006 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 11 March 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Sunday, 12 March 2006 01:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 12 March 2006 02:47 (eighteen years ago) link
I gotta get that Moody Scott record.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 12 March 2006 03:22 (eighteen years ago) link
I don't know anything much about Moody Scott, just a handful of tracks, but A Woman's Touch is an old favourite.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 12 March 2006 12:10 (eighteen years ago) link
It'd be in my top 100 favourite singles ever, I think.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 12 March 2006 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link
I have an extra copy, Edd! I'll send it to you.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 12 March 2006 13:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 12 March 2006 14:54 (eighteen years ago) link
So Martin, did Moody have regional hits or something? I never heard of him before I saw his cdbaby page, and haven't really taken time to research him. I'm surprised you even heard of him!
― xhuxk, Sunday, 12 March 2006 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link
1) the comedy songs dont really work at all, but t hings like goodbye cruel girl sound an awfully like the comedy tracks on brad paisley, except they rock (well kind of rock, in that npr safe way)2) his voice is really much better here, more supple, softer, subtler, more difficult in dismissing it as a rough imitator of better worse things 3) its really about class, wealth, how to achieve money, and how to lose money--it reminds me of the disappearing middle class, and the ignoring of working/ruling class issues in mainstream country (other examples:iris dement, emmylou harris, mary gauthier) (counter examples: maybe gretchen) 4) its really sad, low key, not sad as melodramatic, but withdrawn and lonely, it is so sure that it will never be happy5) you dont want what i have is the male equivlent of i may hate myself in the morning, but more self loathing. (the women here come on sleezy/that young thing acts like she needs me bad/but dont look on her lies/with envy in yr eyes/you dont want what i have)--the vocal rising and falling, the edging towards pyrotechincs, barely kept in check are really womacky 6) there is a really good drinking song here--last year seemed to be the year of the drinking for pleasure, drinking as positive release (hicktown, tequilla makes her clothes come off, the paisley sort of, all jacked up, etc) this one actually is one of those track of my tears hank williams classic, with the line drink my heartaches dry, and its angry too, it reminds me v. much of some of the better earlier jason mccoy, a brilliant singer/songwriter who i dont think has broke in america, and who is know doing this trucking themed road album called the roadhammers, i have no idea why he hasnt broken though, hes fucking brilliant. 7) how does everyone think of if they could see me know--i think that it is the strongest vocal performance song of his, i think it has authentic details, and i t hink its really quite astonishing, and it pegs into rodney cowells obscenity prayer quite nicely, and the details about markets, family, and real estate, and even the idea of hobby farming, are excellent (esp. how they relate in the next verse to cocaine, furs, etc---fulks knows how drugs work as american signifers) and it has that great talky middle bit, which reminds me of things like veitnam, but i dont understand how all of this rises towards the end of the narrative--why does he kill his meal ticket, orphan his kids, etc--it doesnt make sense to me (or to him--"power beyond my control drove it down some how", it really confuses me, i dont know if it works, it makes me really meloncholy, but its almost kind of manipulitive. 8) countrier then though is an update of fuck this town, and it has a nice dig to bush, but come on, fulk is the perfect example of the carpet bagging that he is mocking here (a point that bluenecks make...) i also think boston jew (unless its an oblique reference to lomax or smith or one of those fellows that im not getting) reminds me of his line about faggots in fuck this town or the racial implications of white manes bourban 9) another cheating song, fulks is much better in details, the actual mentioning of cheap hotel, all of the details, all of the little things no one else notices, and it reminds me again, of all the details, all the implications, the playing out of illicit fucking, that was all over womack---is this the boys version of that girls text? (four walls and a bed/is all we need/to keep these bodies fed" is an amazing line too, fulks can actually write, and he reminds me of the short stories of indie poets like the silver jews guy or john darnielle.10) hes playing a role, hes doing anthropology, and sometimes it convinces me to the core, and sometimes it seems cheap showmanship, an dsometimes i feel the same way both at the same time, which really seems to be the central point--love, money, etc are a varration of masquerdaes, but that seems a really banal observation and i dont know why it bothers me, when oldham doesnt...11) his discussion of actually leaving places, of going from one city to the other, his nomadacy as escape from normalcy, really actually works for me. 12) i think i like fulks, and i think this is his strong album, but it tries too hard to be "country" as opposed to working thru the lyrics/music organically....
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― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 12 March 2006 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 12 March 2006 22:34 (eighteen years ago) link
(yes, I am aware of the absurdity of wandering onto a thread starring Frank Kogan and Chuck Eddy and saying 'hey, read my writing about music!')
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 12 March 2006 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 13 March 2006 01:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 March 2006 02:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Agree with jako upthread about Jessi Colter's voice: weathered without being decimated or elderly, a lot more left than either Bare or Lynn. That said, and this is only after one listen, but so far this doesn't come close to the Bare or Lynn; on most of the tracks it's only the voice that's speaking to me, the songs taking the same in-one-ear-out-the-other trip as much much much recent blues. I can't explain it, especially seeing as how a couple days ago "One Way Out" was doing its work of pouring like glue into my mind and gut. Maybe with me and blues it's either special or it's zero.
A couple of songs, though, reach me: "Starman," and especially "So Many Things," which sounds simultaneously like a lament and an incantation, chords going around and around while her voice quietly lays down its devastating tones. I haven't checked yet as to whether its words have anything to do with devastation, and the three songs that immediately come to mind when I hear this are Pajama Party's "Over and Over," the Dells' "There Is," and Jefferson Starship's "A Child Is Coming," all of which are far more noisy and exuberant than this one, none of which I would think to call devastating, but all three have that sense of reaching up and calling down while chords circle dramatically underneath them. Whatever I mean that; Bowie's "Man Who Sold the World" has the same feel. (Five songs from five different genres.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 March 2006 03:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 March 2006 03:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 March 2006 03:20 (eighteen years ago) link
And Martin, I will try to read that piece tomorrow.
― xhuxk, Monday, 13 March 2006 03:29 (eighteen years ago) link
Natalie Maines may be the best singer in the world when she's cracking her whip. It's she not Gretchen whom Miranda Lambert reminds me of. But you know, this isn't as good as Kerosene. I don't think the problem is the songs per se. "Ready to Run," "Goodbye Earl," and "Sin Wagon" are fabulous - whip crackers all three, but with beauty in 'em too, and the other songs all are decent enough. Somewhere, though, in the arrangements or the approach there's the lure of decorousness. Not sure what's wrong (and it's not that wrong; this is a good album); maybe the voice and style are too appropriate to each song, so each comes off as "what you'd expect for that particular type of song."
I'm not being articulate about this, am I? These women are live wires, but maybe that's them, not their taste, which is merely So Cal country-rock. So something has to jostle them. We'll see what's to come. I'm looking forward to the next one.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 March 2006 03:43 (eighteen years ago) link
But my rudiments of music theory don't extend to my understanding what's happening with close-sung harmonies. And so here's my question: Everly Brothers, and through them Louvins and others, are in the ancestry of this music. Right? Or am I wrong? When I heard "Cathy's Clown," about fifteen years after it came out, this was like finding the Rosetta Stone. "Oh, that's the Beatles, "All I Wanna Do," "Not a Second Time." And then the Byrds drawing from folk, "Wild Mountain Thyme." So where is this coming from? Its insane sweetness was new, but the sound didn't come out of nowhere. (And am I right about "Rush" and "4ever" belonging to this line, or are they from somewhere else? Is there a music theorist in the house?)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 March 2006 03:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 13 March 2006 07:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 13 March 2006 07:28 (eighteen years ago) link
I haven't heard the Veronicas yet, so can't speak to that, but as a general quesiton about Beatle/Byrd-esque harmonies and their off-shoots, oh yeah, most definitely. Another significant close harmony source would be The Blue Sky Boys, who don't get the props they deserve, though I think they predate the Louvins.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 13 March 2006 07:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 13 March 2006 17:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― werner T., Monday, 13 March 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 13 March 2006 19:50 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, a singer named Megan Mullins on indie label Broken Bow has a single at #52. Has anybody heard any of these songs? Are they good?
ANOTHER black woman country singer from cdbbaby: Buffalo-born Dionne Chin, more blatantly bluesy and even boogiefied than Miko Marks or Rhonda Towns. First track has rockabilly yelps and almost sounds pub rock; second song has goes light-Celine-Dion-melisma; third song has '80s new wave AOR production and a slight Shania tinge; "House of Broken Love" is a a harder boogie with a dark mood: Dionne "dealing with the devil" like Terri Gibbs in "Somebody's Knockin'"; "Country From My Boots On Up" is about how Music Row only wants to sing blond white girls "bright of eye and under 21" and "from the south"; "I Want It All" ends with soul-sister/gospel backup that sounds a lot like the backup on Mellencamp's *Lonesome Jubilee*; catchy closer has Dionne saying she'll take the wheel when they hit Mobile. Versatile!
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:02 (eighteen years ago) link
and her name is Dionne CHINN (with two n's).
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm going to dig around for info on Moody Scott in the next few days. And Martin, you the man on soul, seems to me; and I want to read your George Jackson thing...xps
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 03:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 03:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 05:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 06:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 06:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 06:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 06:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 07:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 07:29 (eighteen years ago) link
My copy of the Rhonda Towns (her name makes me think of former mining communities in South Wales but that's British people for you) arrived yesterday. First reaction is that it's mixed but when it hits, it really hits. I can't get enough of this slightly retro sounding modern country(politan), further recommendations welcomed.
― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 10:00 (eighteen years ago) link
http://cdbaby.com/cd/mikomarks
And this is the Stoney Edwards CD comp I swear by:
http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:cze997y0krrt
It occurs to me that one thing I hate about Steve Earle's version of "Rednecks" is that he really overplays its conceit, trying way too hard to sing it *like* a redneck (which Randy didn't really need to do at all), and it comes out ridiculous. I also have a feeling that Earle thinks using the N-word is hugely transgressive or some shit; he seems to give it this emphasis for no reason, like "look at me, I'm saying 'nigger', am I a renegade or what?" Though maybe I just imagined that. In contrast, Sonny Landreth (who has never done anything for me, inasmuch as I remember listening to him) really *underplays* "Louisiana 1927," and it's not great, but I don't mind it nearly as much. Maybe it's just that it would be really hard for *anybody* to do that song unmovingly now. (Well, except Steve Earle maybe, if he tried it.) Album also has the Duhks doing "Political Science," by the way, which I look forward to coming up on my random CD changer but it hasn't yet, and I've been too lazy to go un-random.
And Don, yes, I did get your Shackshakers thing. Thanks.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link
obviously, I'm a fan of Newman's, altho sometimes the cheap shots are a bit much, and it's not the sort of expansive, life-affirming music that I need to counterbalance my dark nites of the soul, etc.
and Don, shit, you absolutely need the Everly's "Roots." If you like the one I sent you. There are maybe 6 or 7 essential "country-rock" records, I went back and listened to a ton of that crap recently, and "Roots" probably beats 'em all except for maybe "Gilded Palace."
well, I'm having no problems with Jessi's record, after a few listens. I really love "Starman" and "You Can Pick 'Em" and "Out of the Rain," somehow the laggy electric piano on this record seems to establish a mood that's reflective but not too wet--she's wandering around the desert and she's staying cool, hydrated, remembering how Waylon used to laugh, maybe. for me, simple-minded fool I am, I just love the groove on most of this, like on "Velvet and Steel." and how she doesn't try too hard to be sexy, like she needs to try.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link
Shotgun Shack (see www.shotgun-shack.com) "My Guitar is a Memory" is really good if you think of it as a single with four extraneous alt-country B-sides ("recorded live one afternoon at Loho Studios in NYC"), less so if you think of it as an EP; your choice. I guess the second best song is "Welcome Back to the Nest." Title cut (opening couplet: "I got left outside of Austin, my guitar's still in the truck/Daaaaale Watson says he just ran out of luck") kicks much ass. -- xhuxk (xedd...), November 16th, 2005.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link
All the contestants are so supremely confident, ambitious and grandiose in their plans, they're unnerving. But that's a common trait, I suppose, in reality 'reach for your dream' TV. You can't be a nebbish with a bit of doubt or desperation in your eye, until you get voted off, like Jewels Harrison did last night.
Criticisms wind up sounding stupid. Big could think of nothing to say that was clever one time so he chirped at the next to last guy for having too many of Steve Earle's stage moves. Shut it, Big. The dude was fine.
B&R opened the show with their hard rockin' "Comin' To You City." I can't follow the reasoning behind putting the midget/dwarf/little person with God Bless Tiny Tim canes/crutches onstage to rock out and grimace at the TV audience. This is bad practice and has to be stopped.
Cowboy Troy plays the comic foil/boob to Wynonna. I think the plan is to make the routine like the Sonny & Cher show if you remember that. I doubt if I'll be able to stick with it for the whole eight episodes.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link
Thanks for giving it a spin, Edd. I'm in Austin now (I'll keep my eyes out for you Josh; or drop me a line if you're checking the board) with a shitty wi-fi connection in my hotel room--apparently, if I stand on one foot and point the laptop northeast while humming "All My Exs Live in Texas", I get a connection.
Anyways, that's Anne Tkach (ex-Hazeldine and Nadine bassist) singing "Everything You Love", which I co-wrote with my friend Michael Friedman (who is not in the band), and Andy Ploof doing the Richard Thompsony guitar on "Hellbound Train" (a trad arr song, which Chuck Berry also cut), and yeah, I think you're right about the Fairporty qualities. But they're all friends, great people, so I'm not objective, but glad you're enjoying. If anybody else wants a copy (hey don, I need to send you one; drop me a line), just write.
I'm seeing The Mammals tomorrow, maybe Jessi Colter and Roky Erikson tonight. I'll report back.....
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 16:42 (eighteen years ago) link
I guess the Newman thing isn't bad, having to choose from Sugarhill artists. I mean the possibilities are infinite; but I myself do just like to think about Del McCoury's thought-processes as he sings "Birmingham." did he know the song? probably, because there's really no such thing as local pros any more, and Del's hip. but actually he's boring doing "Birmingham." and it does sorta defeat him. "Rider in the Rain" suits Willy Braun of Reckless Kelly, this kind of artificial sorrow suits him too. but I coulda thought up, any one of us could have thought up, more interesting pairings. Toby Keith doing "Davey the Fat Boy." Gary Allan doing "Lucinda." Faith Hill doing "I Wish It Would Rain Today." Big & Rich doing one like "Political Science" or "It's Money I Love" from "Born Again."xps
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 17:20 (eighteen years ago) link
Yep, that's the routine. Troy acts like a goof, she looks slightly annoyed, cocks her eyebrows, makes a face or says something very vaguelyput down. It's really watered down Sonny & Cher.
The entire concept of open call auditions for 20,000 must appeal to an American chump's 'egalitarian' sense. But with a record contract at stake it's only an illusion. Realistically, the only people that are going to get on TV are those already polished to the state of readymade.
No Ted Mack's Amateur Hour. Most of the contestants seem technically better than the people whose names you didn't know on "Hee-haw."
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link
eh, AMG seems to be saying that Dale Watson has mainly recorded for indies (Hightone, Audium, Koch), and just since the mid '90s, so no, probably no hits. (I was probably confusing those with Gene's, too.)
> It's really watered down Sonny & Cher.<
And wasn't Sonny & Cher mostly watered down Louis Prima and Keely Smith in the first place? At least that's the idea I've always had.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― werner T., Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link
Thank you, Don! I think there are all kinds of other reasons why the reunited Green and Mitchell didn't work like the old days. Even if they'd had the old musicians (many are still available - I saw them playing together last year), they would still not have come up with a record to match any of Al Green's '70s Hi albums.
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link
More explanation from the cdbaby page: "'Jack's Corner' is named after a tiny bar surrounded by sage-covered cattle grazing land that has survived the local development of southern California. Although you may work amongst the traffic and congestion of the city, you can drive for about a half an hour down a beautiful country road and come to this very special place where you can dance the night away."
And it occurs to me that lots of the CD takes place in SUBURBIA, really. So I may well be wrong about the desert, who knows. (Also, as anybody who has seen my second book might realize, I totally have a soft spot for Working-Woman Rock).
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 16 March 2006 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm pretty much done with the Randy Newman tribute, I think. Starting to think the Restless Kelly/Joe Ely cut isn't quite as great as I say above, and the Earle cut not quite as horrible. (I'm not sure I was right about the stress he gives the n-word, either.)Duhks' "Political Science" is kinda cool, a nice Dixieland-style move for them, and funniest when they drop the bomb on their sweet home Canada of course.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 16 March 2006 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link
New in the 50: Most intriguing one, though perhaps mainly from a British perspective, is Rascal Flatts at #49 with 'What Hurts The Most', the song that ex-S Club lead singer Jo O'Meara attempted to launch her solo career in the UK with last year. Over here, it peaked at #13 then vanished without trace. Its American progress may be slightly more successful, you'd reckon...
-- William Bloody Swygart (thingummy9...), March 16th, 2006.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 16 March 2006 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 16 March 2006 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 16 March 2006 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 16 March 2006 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link
http://cdbaby_com/cd/j0hnnyrebel [not real link -- mods]
― xhuxk, Friday, 17 March 2006 02:25 (eighteen years ago) link
http://cdbaby.com/cd/shaniatwain2
http://cdbaby.com/cd/shaniatwain
I had a copy of one a mid '90s pre-stardom CD by her once, but wasn't very impressed.
― xhuxk, Friday, 17 March 2006 02:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 17 March 2006 02:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 17 March 2006 02:51 (eighteen years ago) link
I have not heard it yet, but isn't this new one produced by John Cale? Alejandro has always proclaimed his love for slow-tempoed Velvets and Mott the Hoople songs, and he crossed that with a bit of country and Mexican sounds to create that atmospheric minor chord approach of his.One of his recent cds was produced by Chris Stamey I think, who pushed/encouraged Alejandro into writing an upbeat pop # or 2. I have always liked him live, but the last time I saw him(with several cello players, a violinist and more)I had the impression that his songwriting had gotten into a rut. But I was just glad to see him alive frankly, as he had been in the hospital suffering from hepatitis c and other ailments. He was sitting down for the whole show.
― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Friday, 17 March 2006 14:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 17 March 2006 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 17 March 2006 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― curmudgeon (DC Steve), Friday, 17 March 2006 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 17 March 2006 21:02 (eighteen years ago) link
My review of my favorite current band featuring an Escovedo is here:
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0344,eddy,48162,22.html
― xhuxk, Friday, 17 March 2006 21:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, it was piling on. Unsportsmanlike conduct, personal foul, fifteen yards and ejection from game. Jewels was left for last, which is hard, you could see it coming with the judges who were having a hard time distinguishing between the polish, so the last person up gets dinged for overcooking it somewhat in front of the TV audience.
Cowboy Troy would be good in a redo of that abominable Chuck Norris series about two Texas marshalls who administer savage beatings to a few people -- er, varmints -- every episode. Troy would be great for the sidekind, better than the original sidekick. He's bigger for one, and he could unsling his belt and use it as a lash, bonking people -- er, varmints, in the head with the giant oval belt buckle.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Friday, 17 March 2006 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Friday, 17 March 2006 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link
Anyway. Johanna Stahley's *I'm Not Perfect* (she's from NYC, I think) is a better Sheryl Crow album than the last Sheryl Crow album. Sounds more like when Sheryl liked beats, back in her "Leaving Las Vegas" days. First song is called "My Big O (I Can)," and, judging from the album cover photo, may well be about the singer's Big O and the achieving of it thereof. Also, she imitates Steve Tyler in it. Another highlight is the one where Johanna falls for a bartender. And even the songs with sorta dreary words don't sound like they do.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 18 March 2006 01:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 18 March 2006 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link
>pro sounding, like Coe's Penitentiary Blues in tone<
Interesting. This reminded me of some redneck asshole when I was in the Army who had what he claimed to be an underground racist "joke" LP by Coe (who I believe *did* use the "n"-word in one of his country hits, as some sort of stupid pun), but in searching on line, this website claims some such records attributed to Coe may have *been* Johnny Rebel:
http://www.answers.com/topic/david-allan-coe
Other websites say there were a couple such "X-rated" Coe albums sold under the name Mysterious Rhinestone Cowboy, exclusively to bikers via *Easy Riders* magazine, and at least one of the song titles sounds explicitly racist, so who knows? (I'm guessing the persona was Coe's equivalent of Clarence Reid's Blowfly? No idea how seriously he took it.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 18 March 2006 02:34 (eighteen years ago) link
The actual Coe hit with n-word I'm referring to is "If That Ain't Country": "working like a n***** for my room and board" (not a pun, I guess; I'd remembered it wrong.)
What makes Johanna Stanley's CD so boppy, I figured out, is how her bassist and drummer play full-on late '60s bubblegum soul beats in three straight songs in the middle -- "The Bartender Song," "What You're Doing," and "Misery," the latter of which doesn't sound miserable at all. Tapdancey alley-cat rhythm of "I'm Not Perfect" (a Rickie Lee or Norah Jones move?) and George Michael Diddleybeats of "Nothing I Would Change" are nice, too.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 18 March 2006 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link
i think that for a variety of reasons (research, vehement anti censorship, free speech, the only thing that kills mould is sunshine, historical value) that johnny rebel should be availble, and that it was wrong to ask cd baby to take it down. though i am often a hypocrite about this, and sometimes my analysis and yellign seems like a calling for censorship, and i most lilkely feel worse about other words
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 18 March 2006 03:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 18 March 2006 03:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 18 March 2006 04:44 (eighteen years ago) link
Anyway, the guy's voice in "Looking for a Handout" resembled David Allen Coe's.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Saturday, 18 March 2006 05:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 18 March 2006 05:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 18 March 2006 06:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 18 March 2006 06:52 (eighteen years ago) link
========During America's sharp decline in the 1960s, there were a few bands that tried to compose some patriotic and pro-White music. I heard a few of these songs and they are really just god awful. The only pro-White music of any quality to come out of the 1960s and early 1970s, was with some American Country music, which has been lumped together to be called "Johnny Rebel." There were many different musicians touring the Southern honky tonks, playing these Johnny Rebel songs. There was one rather famous country singer that is rumored to have written most of the really popular of these songs, such as "Coon Town" and "Move those Niggers North," but if true, he wants to keep his identity private. There was even George Lincoln Rockwell who made an attempt at pro-White music with the band "Otis and the Three Bigots." Otis and his Bigots meant well, but the music was bad.
There were no mainstream record labels that would touch these songs, so they had no ability to become heard, let along rise in popularity. There was one famous Country music singer named David Allen Coe who used the word "Nigger" openly in a song in the 1970s. This song can still be heard in maybe 1,000 jukeboxes currently across America in small bars and restaurants. This song is "If that ain't Country." David Allen Coe also wrote another song that his mainstream record label refused to release. The name of this song says it all: "White Girl and a Nigger."
natvan.com/adv/2006/03-04-06.html
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Saturday, 18 March 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link
>Also top of the playlist this weekend: Huck Johns, Detroit transplant to LA who google seems to suggest turned down a Velvet Revolver opening slot at least once. Looks like Tim McGraw to me, though I'm guessing he gave a lot more thought to picking his truckers hat and those Fleetwood Mac and Muddy Waters albums on the couch on the CD's back cover than Tim might give to more apparel choices. I won't hold that against him though. Album very much rocks, even the grunge parts, but especially maybe the tributes to "Highway to Hell" and ELO's "Turn to Stone", and the Seger "Ramblin Gamblin Man" cover and maybe more. (Which reminds me I need to get back to that live Kid Rock album soon too.) (Pretty funny too that Huck's Capitol Records subsidiary is called Hideout, same name as Seger and the Last Heard's label from Persecution Smith/East Side Story/Heavy Music daze.)-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 18th, 2006.
Huck Johns is sounding better and better. Turns out he's apparently from Lincoln Park, MI, and wrote a song for Kid Rock once, though I didn't know that when I put them in the same paragraph up above. Album is basically mostly '70s Ford assembly line singer-songwriter hard rock; the "grunge" I refer to above has to do with ballads that remind me somehow of Stone Temple Pilots, one of one which, "One Good Man" (which I guess doesn't remind *that* much of STP) may have a possible gay undercurrent, given that Huck's searching for one good man in it. In his liner notes Huck thanks not only eternal Detroit AOR station WRIF and Seger but also Johnny "Bee" Badanjek of Rockets/Ryder fame, and the producer is one Arthur Pennhallow Jr--interesting, since I swear I remember a guy named Arthur Penhallow being a longtime DJ on late '70s/early '80s Detroit rock stations. So now I'm wondering if Huck's some kind of local Michigan hit. Weird that the CD's on Capitol, given that it seems to have way more in common to what you'd find via cdbaby.-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 18th, 2006.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 18 March 2006 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link
Bon Scott, MC5, Bob Seger, AC-DC, Chris Cornell, STP, Rolling Stones, CCR, Pink Floyd, J. Geils, Ted Nugent, Frankie Miller, Faces, Otis Redding, Iggy, Foo Fighters, Pearl Jam, Johnny Cash, Merle, Waylon, Willie
Sounds like I might even like it. If there's a pr e-mail or contact, send it my way so I can make a request.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Saturday, 18 March 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 18 March 2006 17:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 18 March 2006 19:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 18 March 2006 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link
One caveat I gotta state about the Huck Jones album is that he probably does *too many* Stone Temple-style ballads. They're fine (less coagulated than STP's own early ballads were -- I'm talking STP in Pearl Jam not powerpop/glam mode here -- and, in Jones's "Forgiveness," almost more like a *Use Your Illusion* ballad done in a lower register), but they're really not the guy's best songs (so far I'm leaning toward lead cut/single "Oh Yeah," "Infatuation," ELO "Turn to Stone" rip "Kill Everything," and the Seger cover for those), and they seem too plentiful compared to his faster hard rock. Also STP's best songs weren't ballads anyway. But maybe a la Cargun, I'll decide Huck's aren't as grunge as they seem.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 18 March 2006 23:43 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm betting Johnny Rebeltunes-type material is also popular in some enclaves of soCal. The LA Times went out and surveyed the white voters after the Bush victory, the counties that went for him which are in the interior deserts and such, also out to the Sierra's, and they sounded like Johnny Reb's. Mostly wanting to vote for Bush because they felt the Reps were better ready to do something about the 'illegals' and here's one quote paraphrased, 'cuz they carried/carry diseases and that's a threat to security. Same as 'Move them Niggers North," only 'Move Them Pickers South.'
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Saturday, 18 March 2006 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 19 March 2006 02:12 (eighteen years ago) link
And new Dixie Chicks single is streaming here:
http://music.msn.com/artist/?artist=16097852>1=7702
I dig. It's like the Chicks fronting the Hearbreakers. Oh wait, it basically is.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 20 March 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 12:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 13:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link
Rough Shop's a St. Louis group that Roy's working with. I posted about their "Far Past the Outskirts" above--basically, it sounds like good ol' tortured drone-country, sort of on that Mekons/Fairport Convention wavelength. I think it's pretty good, and just ugly enough for me. I like the songs that Anne Tkach sings, like "Destination Everywhere."
and Moody Scott's record is real good, the best kind of semi-pro you'll never see on Nashville Star...his raps are good (he doesn't really rap, but he definitely has some things to say about our particular moment in time), and it's all post-Malaco/I-55 bluessoulfunk, with a few cheeseball synthin-kitsch-sink keyboard ballads that because they're coming from Moody, aren't even unlistenable. and the "Something You Got Baby" he does links him definitively to some kind of weird New Orleans tradition I don't have all the links for--'cause it is Chris Kenner's '61 "Something You Got" except very slightly different words, same arrangement/melody. And good--so did Kenner cop his hit (which is really important New Orleans record, as far as that goes, since it started the "Popeye" dance/song craze of late '61, blues skolars) from somewhere else?
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link
In fact, I'm astonished by the songwriting craft on just about ever cut, it only faltering by the last couple of tunes when they turn off the electric guitars. And at one point they even do something that sounds like Jackson Browne around "Running On Empty."
And I didn't think it would grow on me as much as it has. Also belongs in the category of heartland rock staked out by the Michael Stanley's of the country.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:41 (eighteen years ago) link
I got the new Bottle Rockets, and on first listen, it's pretty good, tougher than the last album, though I'm not so sure about the mastering. Kinda bright for what the band is going for. Release date is early June on Bloodshot.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, obv. Woody did, but so did the Hag; if I recall correctly, it goes "The illegal immigrant is making America grow."
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link
also saw Rosanne Cash and The Little Willies (feat. Norah Jones) do an instore - Rosanne only did five songs and forgot a line or two from "Tennessee Flattop Box" but that was fine by me cause the other four she did were all from Black Cadillac and personally I'm loving that album.
oh yeah, and I caught Elizabeth McQueen and the Firebrands twice too, once right before Billy Joe - she threw out a bunch of free swag during "All I Need is Money" and I helped myself to a beer cozy.
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:40 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0350,eddy,49290,22.html
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link
1) There are definitely good arguments available for moving from Limp Bizkit type music to Lynyrd Skynyrd type music (or even from Rage Against the Machine type music to Bad Company type music). (For example, here's one: melodies are *good* things.)
2) He makes better albums now than Eminem does (which I wouldn't have predicted.)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 01:14 (eighteen years ago) link
And by the way, speaking of *Cocky* (and Iraqis) the last line of this great RJ Smith review from late 2001 now seems eerily prescient; I wonder if Kid read it and took it to heart?
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0151,smith,30841,22.html
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 01:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 01:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 04:46 (eighteen years ago) link
So everyone is talking 'bout how redneck revolution means rocking and they can get fucked as far as I'm concerned. Being a redneck is coincidental, poxy fules.
The sound is noticebably off in this epidsode. It's reverberant, shrill and the crash makes it difficult to decipher what Cowboy Troy is going on about. Troy is up, he's so up it seems he's taken a pill, maybe one too many. He's talking too fast and a Prilosec logo, the drug for curbing heartburn acid reflux, is flashing next to his face and if there's someone who looks like a bigger fool tonight, you're going to have to go a long way to find him or her.
Rock, rock, rock, redneck rock is the mantra for tonight, adds Wy. Let's all rock through the show. It's so irritating my teeth are rattling.
Last week was fair. This week the meat wagon's being driven over the cliff. Were the ratings bad?
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 06:25 (eighteen years ago) link
only one id like to fuck, too, which is why i msotly watched last year
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 06:27 (eighteen years ago) link
Gretchen did her second song, Politically Uncorrect or something, and the fiddles and Telecaster were way too loud and I like loud instruments. But the Tele player was just a goon hack with a shaved head and the fiddles, eh. And you know I'm sick of Gretchen who appears to have lost weight which tells me she's taking pills on the advice of her management. Plus, they were phoning it in because they had the look of people who expected the audience to go wild every night while playing it, which is what the studio audience did.
One girl came on -- Torres -- and she looked great and her jeans were spray painted on, but the song was boring and everyone fawned over her because she was HOTT.
Another of my big objections is that none of the contestants show any human superciliousness or enmity, both of which are necessary qualities in pop rock and dealing with any audience live. It stands to reason the guy who did the Big & Rich cover OK, after being drubbed by Anastacia the dick for two weeks running, would have snarled back at her. But no, all the contestants, when fed shit, ask for more. Good character traits for working in cubicles at corporate America USA, maybe convincing to sheep watching on TV, not so good for anything else.
Quote of night: "I love to have a great time." Wow, pearls before swine.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 07:12 (eighteen years ago) link
and well, lets not talk about the guy who did the charlie daniels, the desperation and exhaustion and sadness and esmaculation and all of it hiding behind this played out masculinity...its a hard song to sing, and he was so safe, people shouldnt play broken hearted drinking songs until theyve had enough time to be well be broken hearted and drunk--last week the same thing happened with tequilla, unless you actually have spent time on a bender, the lavisoucness just doesnt slither out...
and cowboy troy is just awkard, he doesnt know where to go and what to say...
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 08:13 (eighteen years ago) link
Really? *Blue Sky* is the only album by them that's ever really clicked for me, and that one only half way; I mean, I liked "Baggage Claim" just fine, but despite their trappings they always seemed to wind up on the wrong side of the alt-country vs. southern rock divide to my ears. Haven't listened to the new one yet, though. And perhaps I should listen to their old ones more (though outside of *Blue Sky,* none are around here anymore.) (I was thinking I liked some almost pub-metal/Count Bishops song they did in the mid/late '90s with "rural route" in the title, but I'm not finding it on AMG; maybe I'm confusing them with somebody. Either way, I always wished their guitars were louder, a la the Cactus Brothers.)
ps. I never knew Bottle Rockets' nickname was "the Brox" til now. But I figured it out!
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 12:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 13:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link
There's no reason whatsoever you should be interested in this fact.
― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 14:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Xhuxk, I was thinking that "Devil" was Kid's first. I think American Badass is the one I was calling his second. And of course I don't necessarily believe it needs to be Rage-type guys who back him up. Just someone to lay down some fire. My impression (and this may be very wrong, since I haven't listened to nearly enough of it) is that his singing nowadays is trying to be straight-up legitimate, whereas I think he needs something to provide him cover so that he can do what he does best, which is to do some variation on sing-talking. As I said, this could be all wrong, including my opinion on what he does best.
"Picture" felt like slow, dead sentimentality pinned to the near calm sky. But I've not heard it more than 3 or 4 times, and not recently.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:24 (eighteen years ago) link
Turns out I goofed; there's no Kid Rock LP called *American Bad Ass*. Shows what I know. That was the single off *The History of Rock,* which was mainly sort of an odds-and-sods early years comp, duh:
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0027,eddy,16173,22.html
"Picture"'s beautiful-loser bullshit actually sounds fairly lush and billowing and good-humored to my ears, not dead or draggy at all.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link
That totally baffles me, which only means I'm all the more interested to hear your take on the new record!
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link
A couple songs into the new one, I'd classify them more as "loud folk music" (or, in Chris Cook's great old Pearl Jam formulation, "loud mush") than as a rock band. The guitar blur is there; the rocking from drums and bass is not. Basically, they sound like an alt-country band with louder guitars. I'm gonna shelve them for a little bit; will come back to it some other time. Hope that's not too baffling!
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link
I like the Shawn Camp record OK...Nashville in its second Billy Swan, or Roy A. Loney, phase, perhaps? A rockabilly record from 1979? anyway, someone (they left the byline off the online version, and the print Scene don't make it up on the ridge here on Wednesdays) did an interesting piece on it today. turns out the guy wrote half of Josh Turner's latest record, so he's not lacking for rockabilly boots or panties, I suppose (and there's something by me in same issue on Jamey Johnson):
http://www.nashvillescene.com/Stories/Arts/Music/2006/03/23/Swingin_/index.shtml
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 23 March 2006 01:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 March 2006 01:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 23 March 2006 01:24 (eighteen years ago) link
http://bomplist.xnet2.com/0204/msg03130.html
However, interestingly enough:
http://home.sprynet.com/~galligan/sietsema.htm
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 March 2006 01:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link
http://cdbaby.com/cd/lindseykristy
And it's a picture disc!
― xhuxk, Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 23 March 2006 19:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Thursday, 23 March 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 24 March 2006 00:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 24 March 2006 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link
http://cdbaby.com/cd/kathyx
Kathy X, *Ready for Anything*: minimalist clippity-clop semi-hopped-up rockabilly rhythm from two not-so-young guys who keep their mouths shut provides frame for a not-so-young woman to both rant in endearingly tuneful semi-hiccuped british accent and steal noisy link wray twangs in short songs about cat fights and demon possession, plus one joan jett cover. energetic, in a way closer to girlschool than the stray cats. i like "love they neighbor," "i love rock'n'roll," "ready for anything," "let the devil in," "bitch like you," "black box" (for starters.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 24 March 2006 16:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 24 March 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link
RIP BUCK OWENS
second off, i just got back from princeton record exchange, where i unloaded somewhere between 15 and 20 huge boxes of CDs I don't need. on the way there and back i decided that dale watson's *whiskey and god,* which even has a funky country rap song about a transvestite not to mention a song about a woman with the impossible dimensions 38-21-34, is probably my favorite '06 country album so far unless maybe if carrie underwood counts. also, i bought/traded for these (mostly but not all country) CDs, which i am listing in descending order of how much i predict i will wind up liking them. if you know something about them that i don't, feel free to predict otherwise, but realize first that i cheated a little bit by listening to parts of maybe half of them on the way home. (also, the prices listed are the sticker prices; since i traded in CDs, they're actually cost me less):
1. toby keith *honky tonky university* 2005 $3.99 (i never heard "big blue note" before, and i like its sing-talking but was surprised to find out its music apparently contains no big blue notes. also i'm realizing i much prefer funny toby to sincere toby, which means, outside of the three hits, my favorite track so far is "just the guy to do it," where he picks a fight with a knucklehead in a bar. also i'm sad to learn the album does not contain toby's current billboard c&w hit with the intriguing drinking title, which i have still yet to hear.)2. akon *trouble* 2003 $2.99 (not country)3. status quo *heavy traffic* 2002 $3.99 (not country, but probably boogie)4. *texas bohemia: polka-waltzes-schottisches: the texas bohemian moravian-german bands* (tritonkt german import compilation) 1994 $3.995. lee ann womack *lee ann womack* 1997 $1.99 (autograhed by her on the CD cover!)6. carlene carter *i fell in love* 1990 $2.99 (title track sounds familiar, so i guess maybe it was a hit? it also sounds like a nick lowe song, though he apparently didn't write it)7. smegma *ism* 1993 $1.99 (not country, and i may well wind up hating it, i dunno)8. kaci brown *instigator* 2005 $1.99 (who is she? she looks young. and i'm assuming she's country because that's where three copies of her CD were filed, and i think i heard of her before, possibly either in billboard or on one of these rolling country threads.)9. cock robin *after here through midland* 1987 $3.99 (not country, but with harmonies anyway. i've long wondered what their deal was. maybe joe mccombs can explain them to me. who was their audience? i've long wondered if maybe they were like a lesser version of quarterflash or something, but the guy's voice on the couple tracks i listened to sounds british or aussie--maybe more like dream academy or icicle works, whatever that means.)10. sweethearts of the rodeo *beautiful lies* 1996 $4.99 (on sugar hill records, but didn't they have country chart hits earlier? i've never heard an album by them before; bought this because "midnight girl in a sunset town" has long been my favorite song on the k-tel dance country CD i mention upthread. the songs i heard on this so far are not bad, but also nowhere near that good. they do cover "muleskinner blues," though - -that's a jimmie rodgers classic, right? but why the hell would somebody want to skin a mule, anyway?)11. jamey johnson *jamey johnson* 2006 $3.99 (i could wind up liking this more than this placement suggests, but "the dollar," which i'd never heard before, disappointed me on first hearing after all the compliments it's received on this thread and even from christgau. seemed sappy. the cat's in the cradle with the silver spoon, little boy blue and the man in the moon when you coming home dad i don't know when, we'll get together then son etc.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 25 March 2006 23:04 (eighteen years ago) link
The live DVD of 'em doing their modern show really kills though. The band just shreds when the two Telecasters get going on the stomping parts. But they don't do that so much on the contemporary records.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Sunday, 26 March 2006 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Cock Robin, I lump in with sophistipop of the period like Prefab Sprout, Danny Wilson, Blow Monkeys, and Style Council. And indeed, Dream Academy. I'm partial to that kind of stuff but then again I've never been accused of rocking too hard.
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Sunday, 26 March 2006 02:04 (eighteen years ago) link
(Oh, and add Double ["Captain of Her Heart"] to my list above.)
― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Sunday, 26 March 2006 02:08 (eighteen years ago) link
Best songs on Dale Watson album: "Whiskey or God" (vs. "Drugs or Jesus," though Dale picks both -- in another song he mentions pills too by the way); "No Help Wanted" (as in "Get a Job" or Gary US Bonds's "Out of Work', with Dale stuck in a truckstop in Pittsburgh PA -- only thing is, for some reason I can't imagine truckdrivers being unemployed! Seems there could never be enough of them, but what the hell do I know?); "Truckin' Queen (I Got My Night Gown On..)" (imagine Jerry Reed in "Amos Moses" mode doing "Where's the Dress" crossed with "C.B. Savage" and you'll maybe get the idea -- the tranny is a trucker DJ in KC, and the song ain't remotely homophobic by the way near as I can tell; Dale seems in awe of the guy); "I Wish I Was Crazy Again"; "Heeah!!". Second tier: "Sit and Drink and Cry," "I Ain't Been Right Since I've Been Left," "Tequila and Teardrops," "38-21-34"; "Outta Luck." I'm still wondering if this album's a huge leap, or if he's always been this good.
Of those Princeton Record Exchange albums, the Bohemian Texas polkaholics seem to be winning. The Toby album has four or so great tracks surrounded by too many sincere love ballads. An interesting move for him, but not always an entertaining one. But maybe the slow songs'll kick in later -- Toby's showing off his voice, which deserves to be shown off.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 26 March 2006 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 26 March 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link
And they will be coming to NYC in April.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Sunday, 26 March 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 26 March 2006 21:21 (eighteen years ago) link
and yeah, I still need to research me some Tex Czech one of these Saturdays.
and finally, I forgot to mention that Cock Robin have a really weird name.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 26 March 2006 22:44 (eighteen years ago) link
i guess i should listen to that dale watson album, it's been sitting on my coffee table for two weeks. and funny you mention robert ellis orrall because i thought he'd long ago vanished. i remember him because i saw him (in his new wave days) open for u2 on the war tour. it was my first-ever rock'n'roll show so i thought he was cool even though he probably wasn't.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 26 March 2006 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link
Excerpting, unfootnoted:
The problem is that after the first 30 seconds of “The Garden (Part III),” the opening track on Taught To Be Proud, I was ready to forcibly rip the CD from my computer and fling it from the nearest window. Jam band? Ugh.
Bouncy, semi funky drum track? Check. Rhythmically shaky and slightly off pitch backup vocals? Check! Looming shadows of Grateful Dead, Phish, Widespread Panic and the Allman Brothers? Super double check!
How many bands of well meaning college students (with guitars) have beaten this poor little Birkenstock-clad and patchouli-scented donkey-of-a-musical-movement into the dust over the past 15 years? Hmm?
But upon further listening, I started finding the good stuff lurking in the corners. Trevor Garrod’s vocals call up some combination of the Jayhawks’ Mark Olson, Neil Young and the illustrious Paul Simon — all great. His wah-wah Rhodes solo in the title track is groovy and well played. “John Brown” is a moody, little, historical tale peppered with some “20/20 hindsight” observation. After a few spins, one begins to notice that for all the jammy affectations, there’s real potential for good songs. Heck, there ARE good songs on this album. They just get
Headin’ Down to Bonnaroo
The band burst into the “jamband” scene with a stellar performance at Northern California’s High Sierra Music Festival in 2000. Five years later, the group found itself in front of ten thousand screaming fans at Tennessee’s fourth annual Bonnaroo Music and Arts Festival.
“It was of one of those special shows that reminds you why you want to perform in front of people,” Chambers says. “The crowd was just on fire. I mean it was one o’clock in the afternoon and 100 degrees out, and ten thousand people still showed up to see us play.”
Quite suddenly, Tea Leaf Green had morphed into a venerable tour de force on the scene. The group expanded its performance schedule, and fans—many of whom just wanted to see what the fuss was about—came out accordingly. In less than six years, the band went from playing Bay Area house parties to posh East Coast theatres three thousand miles away from home.
“Now it’s getting a lot better for us,” Chambers says. “We’re making more money, getting bigger crowds—I mean we’re still all poor—but it’s nicer. We can actually expect people to be at the shows now, as opposed to two years ago we’d be happy to have 50 people there.”
Living Organically
Tea Leaf Green, like many of the group’s “jamband” brethren, knows not of radio airplay or MTV videos. Chambers says things like grassroots promotion on Internet message boards and opening for former Phish frontman Trey Anastasio have been keys to the band’s success.
“It was great playing with Trey and meeting him,” Chambers says. “He told us a lot of fun stories of what he went through in the early Phish days in comparison to =======
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Monday, 27 March 2006 00:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 27 March 2006 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 27 March 2006 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Monday, 27 March 2006 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link
I have never heard a single note of Calexico. That is kind of weird.
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 27 March 2006 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link
just kidding. they're one of the bands that i like but wish they were just, overall, better.
i will lurk the sh*t outta your brazilian jazz thread. ;)
― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Monday, 27 March 2006 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link
>. kaci brown *instigator* 2005 $1.99 (who is she? she looks young. and i'm assuming she's country because that's where three copies of her CD were filed, and i think i heard of her before, possibly either in billboard or on one of these rolling country threads.)<
well, album definitely seems more like "r&b-leaning teenpop" (pretty ignorable so far, though that may change) than c&w. AMG's explanation:
>Kaci Brown grew up in Sulphur Springs, TX, and was singing at a very early age. Throughout her youth, she performed across her home state, appearing just about anyplace that would have her. To further her career, her family moved to Nashville in 2001 — remarkably, before attaining a record contract, she had a publishing deal and was writing for country artists. Though she intended to be a country artist, she was repeatedly told that she'd fare better with pop. By the end of 2005, she had summer touring dates with the Backstreet Boys, in addition to her Interscope-released debut album, under her belt. All of this happened before she passed her teenage years. A few of the things she adores, as noted on her website, include "love," "purple anything," "boys with guitars," and "boys in general."<
― xhuxk, Monday, 27 March 2006 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link
and it turns out Moody Scott, who we were discussing upthread, recorded in Nashville for Sound Stage 7 in the '60s, had some regional hits. there's a new comp of his SS7 stuff just out, called "Bustin Out of the Ghetto." now Moody lives in Las Vegas. xps
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 13:39 (eighteen years ago) link
http://cdbaby.com/cd/bearfoothookers2
http://cdbaby.com/cd/bearfoothookers1
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm getting a lot of mileage out of this Miko Marks CD, I keep being surprised by her voice, at moments when I'm not expecting to be surprised (I suppose that's a pre-requisite of being surprised, but still). Less so from Dierks Bentley, which I was expecting to like more than I do. The only bits I find myself responding to are the sappy bits, which I suppose isn't that unusual for me.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, replaying the first album, I'd say it's definitely more alt-country than the followup, though fairly often the rhythm does pick into a passably sprightly mid-tempo waltz or choogle for the aging longhair dancefloor. Still more Dead than Skynyrd, though "Dirty Whore Blues" does okay with the latter; she leaves his member sore and he tells her "woman don't come around here no more," you get the idea -- and this is one of their better songs, actually. They're not too complimentary of the gal in "Damn She's Fat" (5'2", 300 pounds) either. (But the album covers kind of remind me of Michael Hurley's.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link
No FYPL though, I'm afraid, though I have the 7" on House of Orange if you don't mind a bit of off-centre pressing and the consequent wow (or is it flutter?).
If I'd had the choice, I'd have prioritised Ella Washington or Ann Sexton, but I don't know how the licensing works so I shouldn't criticise. I'm glad someone's doing it.
(This made me go and check to see what Ella Washington CDs are available, and there seems to be one containing at least some SS7 stuff, though it doesn't have the outrageously good "If Time Could Stand Still", which is a shame. Not such a shame that I haven't ordered it, obv.)
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 28 March 2006 22:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 29 March 2006 01:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Oddly enough, the *newest* bearfoot hookers CD single (which I hadn't noticed in my pile til now -- one of those thin paper sleeves, you know how it goes) is called "I'd Rather Two-Step Than 12 Step," ha ha, funny title, and one of its lines is actually about "falling off the wagon." So good for them, but the title's the only really clever thing about the song, which is your usual alt-country joke hokiness.
Rachel Williams CD single from cdbbay: First song "Some Things Make Her Cry" mentions Springsteen and the 49ers (presumbably the football team not the old house music group); second song "Get Home" has gospel backup. Not bad, but not enough. Nice voice, forgettable tunes.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 29 March 2006 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link
Am reading Kevin Phillips' American Theocracy and I'm at the bit on America's official religion and its intolerance and "disenlightenment." And that's Pentecostalism now and the Southern Baptist Convention he says, sounds right to me, so when the one contestant admitted to his P-ism to Wynonna like he should get a pat on the back, I naturally began to hate him. Even though he still sounds like a pro and does as good a job as all the others.
But the show's highpoint was its first episode and now it's just going through the motions, whittling away at the stick, everyone saying "I so do want that recording contract" like the song "All I Want for Christmas is my Two Front Teeth."
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 29 March 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 30 March 2006 01:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 30 March 2006 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link
how much of this shit is geographic
― anthony, Thursday, 30 March 2006 07:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 30 March 2006 07:05 (eighteen years ago) link
The upside of this is that I get to see Lee Ann Womack on Staten Island, in a theatre with a capacity of a couple of thousand. I imagine this venue to be smaller than she would regularly play in towns more receptive to country music.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 30 March 2006 10:07 (eighteen years ago) link
No, no, no, I'm *IN* New York. I am not now and have never been and will never be "from" here, no way. And New York's illiteracy about country has indeed given me the opportunity to see excellent Miranda Lambert, Shelly Fairchild, Lee Ann Womack, Montgomery Gentry, and Big & Rich shows in rather small venues. (I even saw Toby Keith do some industry-only sitdown-and-strum thing maybe five years ago, before I knew who he was! Though I mainly went for the free food, I think.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 30 March 2006 12:32 (eighteen years ago) link
Quite right. We've been talking a bit more about her on this thread.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:34 (eighteen years ago) link
Anyway.
http://cdbaby.com/cd/tiffanyjoallen2
"Youngest to hit #1 on the Nashville Western Chart!", the cover says. Which is to say she hasn't even been a teenager very long. First song on her album. "Dear Carl," sounds great and wise and detailed and intense, and would have made more sense sung by somebody at least three times Tiffany Jo's age, but she pulls it off. (Unfortunately I listened to it a couple hours ago and can't remember per se' what exactly the details *are,* just that they're there.) Covers of "Blue Moon of Kentucky," "Louisiana Saturday Night" (hey maybe we should talk about Mel McDaniel, he was cool!), "Walkin After Midnight", and "Jambalaya" are well-chosen and done fine; "Living the Life of a Celebrity" seems not bad either. Seems a bit of a gyp that Tiffany Jo doesn't actually *yodel* til the eighth song, "Cowboy Sweetheart," and I'm happy when she finally does, but that's not to say I necessarily wish she yodeled more. "Hero In the Dark" is a sappy ballad that I could totally live without, about how everybody wants to change the world but the ones who do are ones who do it behind the scenes or whatever. Tiffany Jo's got vocal range many would die for I assume, and actually has a rich lower register, though sometimes when she drops down there I get the idea she's saying "Listen, I'm going to go into my rich and bluesy beyond my years lower register now, so watch out and prepare to be impressed." My intern Max just said she sounds like Leann Rimes; and he may well be right -- I've actually never paid attention to Leann's teen era stuff as much as her later dance stuff. (I've always assumed Leann got more interesting later; am I wrong?)
― xhuxk, Friday, 31 March 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 31 March 2006 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link
http://cdbaby.com/cd/tiffanyjoallen1
― xhuxk, Friday, 31 March 2006 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 1 April 2006 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 2 April 2006 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 3 April 2006 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 3 April 2006 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Cool stuff happening at the bottom of the Billboard country songs chart this week:#58) Hot Apple Pie, "Easy Does It," their Lionel Richie imitation#59) Ronnie Milsap, "Local Girls," not a Graham Parker cover apparently but Billboard says "tropical flavored" and his first chart spot in six years. I haven't heard it, but I'm guessing I might like this. I should really investigate Ronnie someday -- he's another one of those soul-music-as-country guys. Always loved his "Any Day Now".#60) Carrie Underwood, "Before He Cheats", her punk rock revenge song!#61) Cledus T. Judd parody of Three-6 Maffia's current hit, on how soul food is an excellent fiber source: "Ever Since I Could Remember I Been Poopin' my Collards." Okay, I just made that one up. Sorry.
I wonder how much those Hot Apple Pie and Carrie songs are getting radio-played. More promising titles: "The Seashores of Old Mexico" George Strait #21, "If You're Going Through Hell (Before the Devil Even Knows)" Rodney Atkins #32, "Chicken Fried" the Lost Trailers #52. Anybody heard any of these? And who are the Lost Trailers, anyway?
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link
OK, I want FRANK to listen to this one and figure it out. Are you out there, Frank? Three harmonizing Christian sisters who seem to want to look like the Dixie Chicks, all majoring in music at the University of Arizona, none of whom EVER seem to smile in any of their pictures. The first SEVEN (out of ten) songs on their album, including their uncharacteristically (at least comparatively) upbeat cover of "Ticket to Ride", all seem to be breakup songs. The first few, especially, strike me as very very dark, not to mention souped up with tons of Jim Steinman doing Bonnie Tyler melodrama. Opener "You're All I See" is the most over-the-top bombastic of all, but the close triple harmonies in it (is this a classical-training thing? a puritan Protestant church choir thing?) come off to me almost like some *Saturday Night Live* EZ-listening skit making fun of middle-aged ladies and their square square music, and its words are about going insane and feeling like you're locked in a cage in the heat of the desert, and after a stab at Spanish guitars, at the end the harmonies climb toward an almost operatic climax. Second song, right off the bat, concerns a disabled person and a suicide, so even darker, and though angels save the day they don't make the song any more cheerful. Next few songs are almost as dour, though "Marble Rain" seems to have a little bit of Stylistics or something in its melody, and the mood picks up a little for "Ticket to Ride" then the quite poppy "Between the Lines," which are still breakup songs nonetheless as far as I can tell, so by then you're wondering if they all broke up with the same guy (Jesus, maybe??); either way, they've got issues and they seem to want us to know it. Finally track 8 "Arizona Sunsets" is about finding an escape from climbing the ladder of success to the glass ceiling (they actually say "ceiling"), and the album closest with its funkiest track, a cover of Stevie Wonder's "I Just Called to Say I Love You" which, like the Beatles cover, is forgettable but not bad. Their cdbaby page seems to suggest they self-identify as country (where else would they find an audience these days?), but I honestly don't hear much country here. And I honestly don't LIKE it much, but I'm still kind of in awe -- especially of that first song, which strikes me as fairly ridiculous, but also fully audacious in a way that I may not quite be getting.
― xhuck, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link
..'cause you're haunted by the memory of the dude you just broke up with, and no matter what you do you can't shake the obsession (i meant to say.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 4 April 2006 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link
Sounds to me like an Auto-Tune thing. It's kinda hard to tell though over the net, but the harmonies have that flattened out quality. That's not necessarily a bad thing, I guess, but I'm not sure it's so good either. I like the version of "Ticket to Ride" though.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link
Her intentions are admirable, but the sign outside her mind reads Vacancy.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 23:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 4 April 2006 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link
..and her single "country music love song" just entered the country chart at #59. (i got 2 billboards in the mail in the 2 days! hot apple pie as lionel now up to 54, carrie underwear i mean underwood keying cars up to 57, milsap down to 60). but i want to hear bomshel!)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 00:48 (eighteen years ago) link
god is nashville star boring
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 04:57 (eighteen years ago) link
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
April 4, 2006
SARA EVANS AND WRITERS OF NEW SINGLE “COALMINE” BAND TOGETHER WITH RECORD LABEL AND PUBLISHERS TO AID WEST VIRGINIA FAMILIES
April 4, 2006 -- Multi-platinum country superstar Sara Evans has joined forces with her record label, RCA Records; writers Ron Harbin, Richie McDonald and Roxie Dean; and publishers Harbinism.com Music, Sony/ATV Music Publishing and Zomba Music Publishing to donate a portion of the proceeds from with her new single “Coalmine” to a life needs/education fund for the families of the Sego mine disaster in West Virginia.
Evans, currently on tour with label mate Brad Paisley, recently performed in Morgantown, WV where they invited the families of the Sego mine disaster to attend a special reception followed by the concert. Having spent time with these families, Evans was moved by their strength and decided that she wanted to find a way to contribute.
"It is truly a blessing that because of this song, so many different people are able to come together to contribute to these families who have been through so much," said Sara Evans.
The songwriters of “Coalmine,” Ron Harbin, Richie McDonald and Roxie Dean, were also watching and reading about the Sego disaster and began to look for a way to help out. Upon hearing that “Coalmine” would be the next single from Evans’ album Real Fine Place, they contacted Evans’ management and record label stating that they would like to donate a portion of the proceeds from this record to the West Virginia families. RCA Records, Harbinism.com Music, Sony/ATV Music Publishing and Zomba Music Publishing, a division of BMG Music Publishing, were immediately on board to contribute as well.
“Ron, Roxie and I were saddened as we watched the news in West Virginia unfold,” commented Richie McDonald. “When our song was chosen as the next single for Sara Evans, we immediately knew that this was our chance to help make a difference for these families who have been through so much.”
Working with West Virginia Governor Joe Manchin’s office, a foundation was identified that will help the families with everyday needs as well as lend assistance with their children’s education. Anyone who would like to make a personal contribution can do so by purchasing a commercial digital download of “Coalmine” available at iTunes, Walmart Digital Downloads, Napster, Real/Rhapsody, MusicMatch, Microsoft, SonyConnect and Y! Music. A portion of the proceeds from all digital downloads will contribute to the fund.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 15:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link
anthony, are you refering to the wooden shoes bit?
― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Wednesday, 5 April 2006 18:51 (eighteen years ago) link
http://cdbaby.com/cd/lucasmccain
Lucas McCain, *New Horizon,* yet another excellent cdbaby Southern rock/country-metal album (from Georgia this time) nobody's gonna care about but me and George, though others should. 2006 copyright, too! Anyway, a brief rundown: "New Horizon" (Skynyrdesque gimme-three-steps boogie woogie, they totally know how to dance), "Long Hot Summer Night" (Mellencamp/Adams '80s-style words, riff somewhere between "Run to You" and "Money for Nothing" but heavier + more boogiefied), Home On their Minds" (lament honoring the troops, hoping for peace in a strange land with death all around them), "Gimme Some of That" (funky rock namedropping Bocephus and Skynyrd and saying no-sell-out and we miss that old time rock and roll it's the music that saves our soul), "One Bad Love (Don't Make It Bad)" (divorce lament suggesting, no kidding, John Conlee leading the Marshall Tucker Band), "Does Anybody Care" (gutbust lament where the vocal verges into Eddie Vedder territory though that's just 'cause, as I believe Frank Kogan observed in *Radio On* many years ago, Vedder sang like David Clayton-Thomas; beautiful twin-guitar ending), "Concrete Cowboy" (Charlie Daniels doing "Legend of Wooley Swamp"-style rapneck), "Working on Tomorrow" (riff recalling Eddie Money's "I Think I'm in Love" only heavier.) And there's a couple other songs too (and many other lovely guitar parts).
I also love that they've opened for both Mother's Finest and the Kentucky Headhunters, that's very cool.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0404061_hank_williams_1.html
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 5 April 2006 21:40 (eighteen years ago) link
Australian Angel City fan Leanne Kingwell's "More" (not nearly one of her most rocking songs, but still) is allegedly getting played on terrestrial country stations in Stillwater, OK (KGFY) and Sheridan, WY (KYTI), not to mention Internet stations LexCountry out of Lexington KY and USA Radio Country out of Eagle, ID. I mentioned her cdbaby album, which I love, on the metal and teen-pop threads, but oddly did not think to mention it here. So I'm gonna cut and paste in a sec.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:02 (eighteen years ago) link
so, stop the presses, this album from australia is what avril and kelly (and uh, maybe even ashlee and skye and hope) *should* sound like. which is to say, like the first-album divinyls except less arty and more consistently catchy and funny and sexy, often (in "you stink" and the great and hilarious and furious cheated-on-revenge single "holding your gun" for instance) doing a fast mott the hoople (or angel city?) boogie-woogie hard rock under thick guitar buzz. the *gun* EP threw me at first because it opens with leanne kingwell (that's her name, remember it) doing two power ballads (one of them apparently a cover, since it's credited to john watts and the lyrics aren't in the lyric booklet of the album) with prim and proper aussie pronunciation like for instance pronouncing "france" "frontz", but in the course of the album (now called *show ya what,* which seems to be mostly a reissue of the 2005 album that's up on cdbaby, with "holding your gun" replacing "back to me" and the track order shuffled) the ballads make way more sense, partially by being less plentiful...and okay, i also just noticed that the track "be with you" is credited to brewster/brewster/neeson, which means i was RIGHT about the angel city comparison. "blind" is credited to one james stewart; the rest are kingwell herself. "drop your pants" starts out like "hey little girl" by the syndicate of sound (which the divinyls covered), then gets tougher and thicker, like the sonics, but the effect isn't '60s garage rock nostalgia at all, probably because leann's vocals (basically, she sings a lot like christina amphlett at her most rocking) are the most powerful element in the mix. and also maybe as a tribute to christina, in "my hero" she touches herself. with her vibrator. which is better than you. predicton (probably premature, but who cares, what else is new with me): *show ya what* could wind up being one of the best albums of 2006; "holding your gun" might be one of the best singles.
http://cdbaby.com/cd/kingwell
http://cdbaby.com/cd/kingwell2
-- xhuxk (xedd...), March 28th, 2006.
okay, didn't notice these; she's even cooler than i thought:
>"I saw The Angels gig at the Palace in 2000 and it absolutely knocked me out. I was one of a dozen girls in a room of about 1500 guys who just went off and knew the words to every song. That gig got me thinking about how to create some kick arse rock n' roll that girls would dig as much as guys."<
>A four track EP featuring a cover of Fischer Z's 1980 smash "So Long" plus 2 originals.<
and yeah (as reviews on those pages say) i definitely hear the easybeats and suzi quatro in there, too.
-- xhuxkx (xedd...), March 28th, 2006.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 6 April 2006 12:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 6 April 2006 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link
On the cover the new CD the last three songs are called "Bus Songs Session #2," so yeah, I guess this is the only time he's done it besides *Shock N Y'all.* And I meant to steal Frank's "escape hatch" metaphor in regards to these, not his "trap door" metaphor. Though I guess it's more honest than coming up with an entirely different alter ego, like David Allan Coe and Clarence Reid have done. (Not that Toby has ever done anything approaching the outrageousness of those guys' sideline stuff.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 6 April 2006 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 6 April 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link
an unrelated amusing anecdotehes also working w. bochephus, and lives in the old hank/audery home--which apparently is civil war old, so hank jr and tim mcgraw try to figure out which bullet holes are "civl war or hank/audrey war'
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 6 April 2006 18:27 (eighteen years ago) link
don -- cute lil ashley monroe came into the office yesterday. has the sharp nuance of dolly. she's 19 and i really wanted to hate her but could not.
― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Thursday, 6 April 2006 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link
WHY OH WHY CAN'T THIS BE TRUE.
random thoughts/questions:
Saw Sara Evans on the CMT countdown show talking about meeting with the miners' wives and it was pretty vacant. Why is she such a terrible judge of her own music lately? I want "Bible Song" and "New Hometown" as singles.
I just listened to the new Shooter Jennings for the first time and thought it sounded pretty terrible. Do I need to give it another chance or can I safely file it away?
I weep at my inability to keep up with this thread.
(And M@tt -- you know I was country when country wasn't cool!)
― chris herrington (chris herrington), Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Je4nn3 Æ’urÂ¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link
Je4nn3, I wish you'd visit the teenpop thread more often.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Je4nn3 Æ’urÂ¥ (Je4nne Fury), Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 6 April 2006 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 6 April 2006 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 6 April 2006 21:49 (eighteen years ago) link
I like it! See waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay upthread, like around January 16. I need to pull the thing back out though. The songs about hangovers and sniffing cocaine are best I think.
― xhuxk, Friday, 7 April 2006 01:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhxuk, Friday, 7 April 2006 12:29 (eighteen years ago) link
the lyrics weren't cringe-worthy but they did make me tilt my head into the upright and locked "huh" position considering she's 19 and she did the majority of the writing for this album when she was 17 (and sometimes younger). i guess that's a popular ageist complaint, but at the same time its hard for me to invest in her sincerity in lovers lost, etc. when she's my lil cousin's age. and i'm a dour old lady at the age of 24!
― katie, a princess (katie, a princess), Friday, 7 April 2006 13:19 (eighteen years ago) link
first impression (i.e., two and a half songs in to her album)? she sounds kinda slow and lacks bounce, and i'd take many of the unknown cdbaby acts on this thread over her easy. also, i think it's rather odd that she says desperate housewives both complain about their husbands no longer mowing lawn AND that the grass is always greener on the other side. this implies that lawnmowing increases green-ness, which is certainly not always the case. (my opinion may well change, though.)
― xhuxk, Friday, 7 April 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 7 April 2006 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 7 April 2006 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 7 April 2006 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 7 April 2006 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Leanne Kingwell's Show Ya What: Boogie woogie rock and roll, with brassy chick, right away for fans of the Blackhearts, the early Kim Fowley jailbait and guitars sound. Squealing and tuneful lead guitar, rupture your liver in the middle class bar while dancing to the hooks. She's holding a gun, her cheatin' boyfriend's, get outta here with that other wench's lipstick on yer collar. You taught me how to use it, she sez, and I'm keeping it.Also seems to have something to do sonically with Kings of the Sun and the personal vocal style of Angel City's Doc Neeson. (Or the Angels as she'd call them.)Oh boy, now there's a great pumping roadhouse organ -- or old timey skate rink -- on "Be With You." Lots of crunch on the guitars and bass.Tommy James-style "Crimson & Clover" tremolo on "So Long." Boy, along with the old Conwell CDs, a history book of classic radio ready guitar licks and roughed-up and dirty pop rock singing. -- George 'the Animal' Steele (georg...), April 7th, 2006.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 8 April 2006 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link
o far I'm liking but not loving Leanne Kingwell. For some reason the name that pops into my head when listening to her isn't any of the teenpoppers or the Divinyls or Suzi Quatro etc. (though I'm not saying the latter too aren't relevant) but Shooter Jennings; the same almost-nothing of a vocal-cord digging into itself and managing to scoop out a voice for itself.Not that a cross between Shooter and Lindsay wouldn't be worth something...-- Frank Kogan (edcasua...), March 30th, 2006.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 8 April 2006 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Current album that makes most sense in a CD changer along with *White Trash With Money*: Dean Martin's 1955 *Swingin' Down Yonder,* reissued this month by Collector's Choice. I've never gotten into Dino much -- "That's Amore," "Volare," that's about it. And I've never thought much about him being connected to country music, though obviously Elvis (and Jerry Lee maybe?) considered him a huge influence. But this album (only the second one by him listed chronoligically at AMG, so I would assume one of his first?) is all songs about the South* -- about the Carolinas, and Georgia, and New Orleans, and Basin Street, and the Robert E. Lee and so on, some dating back to the 20s or even 10s (really informative liner notes by James Ritz), and it sounds like he's picking up on what Hoagy Carmichael (I guess - -somebody correct my chronology if I'm way off) picked up from Al Jolson or whoever. (I'm sure I'm missing several important intermediate steps along the way, and would be curious to know what they are.) Anyway, the minstrelized (I guess) yet smoothed out Dixieland-pop sound here isn't far from the jazz the shows up on Toby's new album (and that Merle and Tom T touched on before.) It totally swings, and Dino's signing makes it sound warm and good-humored, even if, obviously, a lot of the lyrics are probably (though maybe not explicitly, as far as I've noticed so far) nostalgia for the good old days of the old plantation south before the War. Anybody else have thoughts on this? And what does it mean that it's still part of country's defintion of soulfulness in 2006?
* -actually looks like there are also four bonus tracks on the CD reissue, *not* about the South. One's abotu Paris! I'ld think that might compromise the concept, but maybe not.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 8 April 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 8 April 2006 18:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Just finally got this and listened and I actually had to check the lyric sheet to actually verify that they'd put the right album into the CD case. Every so often I'd drift away and start thinking I was listening to some Ryan Adams outtakes record.
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Saturday, 8 April 2006 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link
And by the way, have I noted how over the top insanely great that *Texas Bohemia: Polkas Waltzes Schottisches: The Texas Bohemian-Moravian-German Bands* album I bought at Princeton Record Exchange a couple weeks ago is? Well, it is. It's barely left my CD changer since, and the amazing thing is that I keep forgetting it's not Mexican music, which it absolutely sounds like until they start singing in German or whatever. Some of the bands are really big, but some of them just seem to consist of nothing more than a drum and a tuba. Pick hits: Adolph Hofner "Beautiful America - Waltz" 1959 (in which he says everything in America is beautiful including the girls. I have a great album on vinyl by him, too. Must have been really hard to have a name like that in America in the 50s!); Vrazel & Majeks & Bobby Jones Czech Band "Corn Cockle Polka" 1992 (party in the background rock!), Tuba Meisters "Edelweiss" 1993 (yes, that "Edelweiss", but not the "Bring Me..." one); Henry Tannenberger & his Orchestra "On Our Porch Polka" 1986 (on Oompah Records out of San Antonio!); The Red Ravens "Stone Heart Waltz" 1977; Leroy Ryback's Swinging Orchestra "El Rancho Grande" 1985; Knutsch Band "Zwei Wie Mir Zwei" 1993; Vrazels & Majeks & Bobby Jones Czech Band (again!) "A Ja Sam (All By Myself)" 1992.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 8 April 2006 20:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 8 April 2006 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 8 April 2006 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link
A couple other thoughts/questions about the Dino reissue:
1) I'm realizing that it's never been especially clear to me what exactly Dixieland music (note its name!) *was.* Ritz's liner notes say, "combining elements of New Orleans, classic, and Chicago jazz, Dixieland came into is own in the 1920s." But who did the combining?
2) On the back of the original vinyl version of said album (reproduced small on the back of the CD's inner sleeve), a drum and bugle corps are mraching with a Confederate flag.
3) Clearly one of the obvious "intermediate steps along the way" I allude to above was, duh, Bing Crosby, who went #1 with "Dinah," which Martin covers, in 1932. The album is *all* covers, the notes say, and was partially a response to all the concept albums Sinatra had started putting out in the early '50s. And yeah, as far as I can tell, it does seem to be just Martin's second album. Other songs covered, according to the notes, were originally hits for the Heidelberg Quartet, Paul Whiteman's Rhythm Boys (at least three of them), the Mills Brothers (they did "Dinah" too, or maybe with Bing?), Gene Krupa with Anita O'Day, Jimmy Dorsey, Ozzie Nelson, Gene Austin, and a 20s comedy duo called Van & Shneck. "Way Down Yonder in New Orleans" wound up being a million seller for rock'n'roller Freddie Cannon (who was great, by the way) five years after Martin's version, in 1959.
4) Ritz refers to Martin "singing in much the casual manner in which he spoke, which, for lack of better designation, could be called 'conversational singing.'" So could many of Toby Keith's best performances, it occurs to me. As could "laid back drawl that was not quite southern, but a far cry for the east coast sophistication practiced by most male singers of the day." Not unlike (from the LP's *original* notes) Martin's "easy golf swing."
― xhuxk, Saturday, 8 April 2006 23:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 8 April 2006 23:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 8 April 2006 23:37 (eighteen years ago) link
Those of so foolish as not to haunt the teenpop thread may be unaware that Miley and her dad Billy Ray have a TV show, in which - I gather from the theme song, which is all TV-less me knows of it - by day she's a regular middle-schooler, but at night she twirls around like Sailor Moon and takes on a SECRET IDENTITY as a... as a... well, you'll just have to look for yourself.
The theme song's OK, likable enough, not grebt.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 8 April 2006 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.angelfire.com/folk/polka/bands.html
― xhuxk, Saturday, 8 April 2006 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 9 April 2006 04:10 (eighteen years ago) link
That Sweethearts of the Rodeo album from '96 I got in Princeton doesn't really cut it for me, though others might think differently. Whoever owned the copy before me had stuck a Xeroxed Alanna Nash review from *Stereo Review* inside the booklet, and Alanna praises it for containing "much more eclectic material than their mainstream county records ever hinted at": i.e, a gospel song, lots of bluegrass, covers of Donovan ("Catch the Wind") and Dylan ("One More Night," never heard of it before) and Jimmie Rodgers, plus what Alanna claims are hints of '60s pop and Celtic folk. I'm guessing that I'd prefer their less eclectic manistream country records (from 10 years before, so mid '80s, Alanna says) myself. I prefer midnight girls in a sunset town to museum curators, which they sound like here.
The Carlene Carter album I bought seems consisently kinda fun but never quite fun *enough*, at least so far. Maybe I wish her poppabilly was more rockabilly, "The Sweetest Thing" is slow, and could amost be a Lorrie Morgan hit from around that time; "Goodnight Dallas," which I like more than most of the tracks, has mariachi horns and yodels, so it's "western" I guess. I'm still waiting for at least one track though to jump out at me as much as, say, "Montgomery to Memphis," which jumped right out of the self-titled Leann Womack CD I bought the second I finally put it in the changer today. So right now I'd say Leann beats Carlene beats the Sweethearts, though Carlene could still win this race.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 9 April 2006 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 9 April 2006 15:37 (eighteen years ago) link
>More mature, After Here Through Midland lacks the sparkle of Cock Robin's debut. The one time they engaged an American producer in Don Gehman (John Cougar Mellencamp, Hootie and the Blowfish), After Here has a more U.S. rock-country blend to it. In the end, it achieved little in the States, again doing the business in Europe -- "Just Around the Corner," "The Biggest Fool of All," and "El Norte" notched up the U.K. singles chart. "I'll Send Them Your Way" could have landed them the U.S. hit they so deserved. "Another Story" is picturesque -- almost like an Edward Hopper painting of small-town America: small wooden house with porch, a deserted street, heavy grey sky, and one illuminated streetlight. "Nobody's home, so I'll go looking out for trouble," sings Anna LaCazio..
― xhuxk, Sunday, 9 April 2006 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link
Sounds like the uncharacterisically un-lightweight "Me and the Wildwood Rose" on Carlene's CD might actually fill this bill after all (which means Carlene could be a keeper.)
― xhuxk, Sunday, 9 April 2006 22:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 10 April 2006 03:07 (eighteen years ago) link
carlene's CD doesn't quite make the cut, i don't think, though yeah, maybe as don suggests her new wave era stuff is less perfunctory than what she was doing in '90 (when she was actually having hits, i take it.) even "me and the wildwood rose," about growing up at grandma's and singing for miners with her little sister, doesn't quite connect. i like the rockpile-abilly powerpopsters ("i fell in love," "my dixie darlin'," "come on back," "one love," the mariachified "goodnight dallas") okay but never love them. most surprising cut, just 'cause i never knew carlene did such stuff, is that stately lorrie morgan approximation i mentioned, but i doubt i'll need to hear it again.
― xhuxk, Monday, 10 April 2006 14:15 (eighteen years ago) link
She's called Sharleen Spiteri, by the way.
― Tim (Tim), Monday, 10 April 2006 14:19 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, George is right here. *Heavy Traffic* (2002) definitely makes more sense on this country thread than the metal one, though there are some decent riffs in three or four songs (most notably "Diggin' Burt Bacharach," which doesn't seem to have much to do with Burt Bacharach, though his name does enable an okay raplet verse that goes "black jack clap trap any kind of flap trap big mac lookin' back diggin Burt Bacharach"), and once in a great while ("Solid Gold") the traffic does get moderately heavy. Otherwise, always pleasant, and pretty much always pedestrian. I dunno, if it was an unknown cdbaby band, and it just came out, I might hang on to it, but it's not and didn't. Really the most notable thing about the album is the creepy-assed fetish song "The Oriental," about sex with Mia from north korea and Mae Wong from hong kong, the former of whom has a land rover and the latter of whom is a raver. Most crypto-racist verse, assuming I'm understanding this, in which case yucko: "I don't like sushi/She said that suits me/I take a shower/On every hour." (The song reminds me of a similar fetish song called "Eastern Girls" or something like that, by some early '80s new wave band whose name started with L, but their song was way catchier and less offensive. I'm totally blanking out on their name right now.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 10 April 2006 15:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 10 April 2006 15:55 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.livinginstereo.com/
Currently there's a brief entry on the Nashville Sound, along with some MP3s, plus a long post on Don Knotts, Cindy Walker and some political musings.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 10 April 2006 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 03:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 06:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 06:46 (eighteen years ago) link
Their track on the Tritonkt comp, "Prune Waltz," is quite the drunken oompah party, and assists regularity as well! (Also I realized I left off my list of faves the version of "Cotton Eyed Joe" by the Fayetteville Flash [Lee Roy Matocha's Orchestra], though that might go without saying since I don't think I've ever heard a version of "Cotton Eyed [or Eye for that matter] Joe" I *didn't* like. Rednex's is still best, though.)
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link
George, check out these guys: Hard-hitting bottle-fight punk-tempo metal'n'roll boogie from the Northwest, complete with yackety sax for coloring and a cover of "Good Morning Little Schoolgirl" by, uh, Sonny Boy Williamson, right? Would sound great next to the Count Bishops or Sonics. Cdbaby find of the week, unless I find an ever better one:
http://cdbaby.com/cd/dirtybirds
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 11 April 2006 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 12 April 2006 13:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 14 April 2006 04:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 14 April 2006 13:23 (eighteen years ago) link
has anyone heard Blaine Larsen's latest single, on the radio? I keep listening for it and so far have missed, and "The Beaver" here, local country station, always seems to lose my requests.
and, catching up here, I ended up really liking Jace Everett's album. I did a piece for the Scene in which I compared it to Radney Foster's record, and if anything I prefer Jace's. "Gold" is an amazing simulation of a classic '70s single, complete with those almost-black sexy, wheedling female backup singers. And the closer, which is about how Jace follows in the footsteps of his fathers and so forth, has some of the greatest massed guitar moves abstracted from, again, a thousand half-forgotten '70s records. Jace sings totally professional, though, which means nothing really gets thru except the sheer formalism of the whole shebang; whereas Radney sings all soulful, sort of like a cross between Dwight Yoakam and Lyle Lovett, but a little deeper, and the sound is "warmer" (Waddy Wachtel on guitar, analogous to the guitar moves on "Jace Everett). And a great Rockpile imitation, or Fabulous Thunderbirds as produced by Nick Lowe, on Rad's "Big Idea."
and I'll say that I don't know enough about teenpop these days to intelligently post there, but that I really liked about half of Jewel's new one, "Goodbye Alice in Wonderland," some ace, ace pop moves and sunk-back guitars and surprisingly mordant bridges and choruses and thangs...and two songs better than anything on Liz Phair's last one, and comparable to the best stuff on Carrie Underwood's debut. In fact, they sound similar; and Jewel oughta record something like Carrie's in N-ville, if you ask me. all I can say is, anyone who gets all excited about the jammed-together pop of something like the New Pornographers, Jewel's "Satellite" and "Only One Too" beat that stuff, you axe me. and her "country" move, "Stephenville TX," surely belongs with Carrie's "Ain't in Checotah No More" as stardom-I-love-it-I-want-a-peanut-butter-sandwich statement.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 14 April 2006 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 14 April 2006 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 14 April 2006 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link
he new Kris Kristofferson, does the same thing, he always does--tryto find his place in the universe. Under rated as a singer, andperhaps the best american song writer since the mid 60s (moreconsistent then dylan, more lonely then merle haggard, smarter thenbruce springsteen and less sentimental then anyone else) The singlehas a sing along chorus, that sounds like a pentecostal sing-a-long,but wryly upends all of the cliches we expect of country songs aboutjesus.
hes an old man now, an elder but hes always been ragged, always beendowntrodden--what does it mean when he sings this:
Am I young enough to believe in revolutionAm I strong enough to get down on my knees and prayAm I high enough on the chain of evolutionTo respect myself, and my brother and my sisterAnd perfect myself in my own peculiar way
Its brave, because his desire for radical change is tempered withdoubt, and he realises that to lay prostrate to the creator of theuniverse is not the moral equivalent of going out for a pint with abuddy, and he doesnt see anything wrong with admitting in evoution,and his desire towards unity is communitarian.
the new album is smart, because it isnt a fuck you to dubya (haggarddid that with his last album), but an upbeat reflection on a minefieldof interior change.
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 15 April 2006 05:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 15 April 2006 05:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 16 April 2006 00:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 16 April 2006 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― werner T., Friday, 21 April 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 21 April 2006 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 22 April 2006 00:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 22 April 2006 01:15 (eighteen years ago) link
second:
http://cdbaby.com/cd/hillbillyjones
the hillbilly jones from central illinois. expertly swinging (as in, they cover glen miller at least as well as they cover merle haggard and billy joe shaver) rhythm section; best moments are when the singing stops and they just play. "flattop guitar and sangin'" sound thin in comparison to the "doghouse bass" and "electified belly fiddle" and "drumset," though that may have more to do with low-budget production than actual musicianly ability or lack thereof. and "ridin' high" and "runaway train" do have some pub-rock boogiebilly kick, and "ready to fire" is a dark one that ends up in the middle of a sergio leone western, and "muhlenberg county"'s a good one too, and they like johnny cash more than i do, but at least the cash they seem to like most is "folson prison blues" type stuff.
― xhuxk, Sunday, 23 April 2006 02:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Sunday, 23 April 2006 02:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 23 April 2006 02:42 (eighteen years ago) link
and then your man, its fantastic, yeah the lyrics are awful, and the video for your man is kind of creepy, but when he sings your man, and goes down lower then almost anyone else, so its this meoldic, r esonant, rich, seductive, barritone, like a white boy barry white, its utterly amazing, one of the best singles of the year, for sheer skill--and the whole album is like that--hes too fucking young to be this much in control...
i was worried he would be a one hit wonder, but your man, the album and the single, may be the best thing ive heard so far this year.
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 23 April 2006 09:20 (eighteen years ago) link
I can imagine some of my freinds thinking the whole enterprise rather twee, but I still think twee can be a compliment, and twee country's not really something I've heard or even thought about. What twee country have I missed?
― Tim (Tim), Sunday, 23 April 2006 10:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 23 April 2006 10:26 (eighteen years ago) link
has anybody else noticed the verbosity of the liner notes on the shannon brown album? i didn't, not until this morning, at least in part because i hadn't played the actual finished object much, after i'd played the advance copy so much when it arrived last thanksgiving, back when my 14-year-old kid sherman was a whole inch shorter. anyway, shannon sure does blab a lot about her songs on that inner sleeve. talks about how "good old days" is her "disco groove thing that i grew up on," and reminds her of her "mom's and dad's bar back home" where there were "no stereotypes, no rules and regulations" and "every walk of life is found there and it's OK," close to toby's "i love this bar" i guess but a far cry to the situation in her single "corn fed" where only country music gets played on the radio. and "high horses" is about inclusiveness too, so shannon's got a lot of contraditions whether she knows or not, which is not a bad thing. and though "can i get an amen," the song with BTO or Doobies riffs, talks about being born again, shannon's liner notes suggest that her main use for the word "amen!" is the equivalent of "hallelujah!" when you get out of "an unhealthy relationship." she also says in her notes to "turn to me" that "i have deep rooted alcoholism in my family, and [the song]'s about a woman being strong enough to support her man." does that mean she joins sheryl crow in frank's co-dependent rock hall of fame?
― xhuxk, Sunday, 23 April 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 23 April 2006 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Sunday, 23 April 2006 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link
the songs on the new album arent as good as this (but the more and more i think about it, long black train is a singualr work, and part of the canon and unrepeatable) but some songs on the new album use his voice to similar effect, the warmth and the precision about pleasure, instead of duty, but still its resoant...
i fucking love mr turner, and i wonder why he hasnt got more love
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 24 April 2006 05:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 24 April 2006 06:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 24 April 2006 06:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 24 April 2006 12:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link
www.xmradio.com/b0bdy1an_s3cusername: press1Password: xmr0ck5!
I think Frank posted something somewhere about how this would be a great show if Chronicles guided the playlist. Not quite, but close. I wish I could afford XM.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 24 April 2006 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Also it should be noted here that I actually like "Me and My Gang" off the new Rascal Flatts album -- not a Gary Glitter cover, but swamp-country sifted through Big'n'Rich hick-hop.
― xhuxk, Monday, 24 April 2006 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 24 April 2006 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 24 April 2006 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link
miranda lambert came thru again and i missed her again. 14 dollars!
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 24 April 2006 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 25 April 2006 05:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 06:08 (eighteen years ago) link
Also slowly exploring the two-disc, R Crumb-artworked new Yazoo comp *The Stuff Dreams are Made Of: The Dead Sea Scrolls of Record Collecting!: Super Rarities and Unisseued Gems of the 1920s and 1930s.* Quite a hodgepodge, united as the title suggests not by genre but merely by how hard the records are to find, never a good sign, but I'm liking pretty much all of it regardless and loving lots of it, including tracks by Dock Boggs, Andrew & Jim Baxter, Ollis Martinn, the Three Stripped Gears, and especially Wilmer Watts and the Lonely Eagles. Those are all on disc 1; haven't touched disc 2 yet.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 25 April 2006 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 26 April 2006 01:41 (eighteen years ago) link
ALINA SIMONE --- Passive-aggressive, apparently humorless art-song emoting, from a gloomy gal born in the Ukraine who grew up in Massachusetts and decorates her EP’s five songs with lap steel, violin, and farfisa parts.
SUGARPINE -- Brooklyn alt-country, probably rock enough for Drive-By Truckers or Bottle Rockets fans, if not Montgomery Gentry or Lynyrd Skynyrd fans. Singing's a bit bland, and sadly "Effigy" is not a Creedence cover. But in the early '80s, they would've been called cowpunk, lumped with Rank and File or Jason & the Scorchers. And "Manhattan Special" even sounds kinda funky at first.
REV. HORTON HEAT -- This Texas retrobilly guitar vet, who quite possibly peaked with his charbroiled Subpop *Smoke 'Em If You Got *Em* way back in 1991, celebrates his new Christmas CD, which doesn't sound half as raunchy as you'd hope.
ELIZABETH COOK -- This photogenic Florida-born second-generation retro-country hopeful has predictable smidgens of Loretta and Dolly in her inflections, but, on *This Side on the Moon*, not much memorable in her words or tunes. A poppier producer would help.
BRIAN KEANE --- Despite going shirtless on his CD cover, Brian has the commendable distinction of being a local singer-songster who is not hard to take, thanks in part to his sense of rhythm. His sound has blues, soul, and Latin in it, albiet via Paul Simon and Jackson Browne and Counting Crows. And he knows Mexico and small towns can be good subject matter.
JESS MCAVOY -- At first the first song on this Aussie bird's CD seemed to say "You could arrange your world to consist of Opening Day," and I thought, "cool, a song about a boyfriend who likes baseball too much!" But nope, the lyric sheet says "opening doors," oh well. And her sometimes-slightly-cello-and-trumpet-jazzed folk-trope unspecifics continue from there.
NORFOLK AND WESTERN -- This Oregon boy and girl call their album *Dusk in Cold Parlours,* but manage to scare more life out of their apparent Leonard Cohen and John Cale and Appalachia and minimalism influences than most indie drone-folkies.
RON SUNSHINE -- Cornball-not-entirely-on-purpose NY (ten-piece-) swingbandleader who seems to miss the annoying jump-blues revival from a few years ago. He's recorded with the P-Funk horns, and croons about drugs and abominable snowmen.
LEAH CALLAHAN -- Former indie-rock grrrl goes the smokey-room jazz-cabaret lounge-revival-all-over-again shtick route.
CHRISTOPHER JAK -- This young strummer, who began in Jersey then spent time in Colorado before landing in these parts, covers Cyndi Lauper's "Time After Time" and sings both verses and stanzas about his unbelievably deep feelings
MARLY'S ANGELS -- You'd think the Carole King comparisons plus Steely Dan comparisons plus Norah Jones comparisons plus that beret on her head might add up to Rickie Lee Jones, but local writer-warbler-pianist Marlys Hornick just ain't crazy-funky-beatnik enough for that. Sincerity with jazz changes; should hire a saxophone player.
THE TYDE -- The debut CD, *Once*, by these shambling and jangling crystal-canyon Los Angelenos (some of 'em moonlighting members of Beachwood Sparks) was named 44th best album of 2001 by morons at *NME.* Their new CD is called *Twice* (get it?), and is quite twee. Though "Henry V111" is oddly not a Herman and the Hermits cover.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 26 April 2006 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link
REVEREND GLASSEYE Our Lady of the Broken Spine: Way way better than its satirical title and campy drama-club intro vocals led me to expect. Which doesn't make this super amazing, given the lowness of the expectations and given that the campiness is basically a cover for a voice that has no other way to achieve extravagance. Nonetheless, this is passionate music, drenched in Mexican horns that have been colored with Romanian (or some such) density. Country & (spaghetti) western guitar boogie is a frequent spice.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 27 April 2006 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 27 April 2006 03:04 (eighteen years ago) link
they dedicated one song to Jack Clement, who came in to catch their set and sat next to us. I went up and shook Mr. Clement's hand, too, after they were through.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 27 April 2006 15:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 27 April 2006 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 27 April 2006 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 27 April 2006 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 29 April 2006 05:59 (eighteen years ago) link
nly NEW hard rock/metal album i've played much in the past few days is *rebel meets rebel* by d.a.c. (as in david allan coe) and c.f.h. (as in cowboys from hell, which means dimebag darrell who is dead plus vinnie paul who is i think his brother on drums and rex brown who may or may not be in pantera--how the hell would i know?--on bass). at first i thought, "uh, nice try, coe can't sing anymore, but at least he sings better than phil anselmo", but then i decided it doesn't really matter; coe *doesn't* have the voice he used to have, the point's moot in this kind of biker rock (heaviest and/or funkiest and most successfully boogiefied in "heart worn highway" which is actually kinda jazzy in a '70s hard rock way; "cowboys do more dope" with its shouted anthem chorus about how country rocks harder than rock these days and also takes more drugs; "cherokee city" about how people fucked over the native americans; "time" which is a great hendrix rip with "ball of confusion"-meets-hombres rhyme-rapping and roky erikson-style observations about "alien forces inside my brain"); i also really like "arizona rivers" (fluttery psych-blues not far from j.d. blackfoot's CD last year) and "nyc blues" (understated talk-vocal walk through the east village a la peter laughner or whoever about seeing weirdos with blue hair, namedropping cowboy junkies probably because d.a.c. likes their name then talks about prince and purple rain and ends the album afterwards with a snippet of an apparently shitty song called "proud to be an american" by some band called pumpjack, played over the car radio which doesn't make sense because it's not a song about driving, but this is still like when rappers end their album with part of a new rap song by their unknown rapper pal who has an album coming out next year, so it's a neat idea. also: "nothin to lose" has female sex moans in it; "rebel meets rebel" is more heavy biker funk; "one night stand" is more heavy rock'n'roll with a "day tripper" riff and a verse that says one night stands aren't just for sleeping with women but also for bands (presumably like this one-off here); "get outta my life" isn't horrible but hank williams III's dumbass fred durst imitation in it is (what do people see in that dork again?); "no compromise" has more talked verses. in fact, in general, coe talks as much as he sings, which is a good idea. so: way better than any pantera album; also way better than the EP that coe made with kid rock a couple years ago (which i got sent a CD-R advance of; don't think it ever came out.)
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just didn't post this on the metal thread:
weird thing is, every once in a while, when i had the rebel meets rebel song in my CD changer, a song would come up where i'd say, "okay, THIS is how david allan coe used to sing". but inevitably the song wouldn't be by coe, but rather by jamey johnson, whose album i wound up liking a lot. at first i wondered whether the coe influence was just my imagination, but then eventually i noticed that johnson drops coe's name at the end of his own most biker-funked song "rebelicious," and i was vindicated. i can't believe that piece of butterfly-kisses fatherhood sap "the dollar" (which i complain about above) was/is both the hit and christgau's choice cut on this thing; it's like the worst song on here, just about (and the reason i took so long to listen to the rest)! and "keeping up with the jonesin." which is better but is still pretty damn cornball though it seems to be the other song everybody talks about, is hardly one of the best. i'd pick "redneck side of me" (the other one that reminded me of coe), "back to caroline" (hard hard honk tonk), ""flying silver eagle" (maybe the best divorce song of '06 so far). "ray's juke joint" (anti-hip-hop. pro hidden bar in the woods a la that black sage album don and i discussed up above), and "rebelicious" itself. gospel closer "lead me home" is nice too, as gospel closers go. way better album than i expected it to be; probably has a good shot of making my '06 country top ten if i make one this year. up there with toby keith, dale watson, carrie underwood.
― xhuxk, Monday, 1 May 2006 20:31 (eighteen years ago) link
Emmy Lou will get in this year or the next. Next will be Rosanne or Alison, but not sure after that. I would vote for Sammi Smith but no one is asking me. If the Chicks can stay together for 10 more years, they'll make it.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 1 May 2006 21:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 1 May 2006 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 00:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 00:22 (eighteen years ago) link
Rebel Meets Rebel is on Big Vin Records, which for all I know was invented just for this...
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 00:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 04:31 (eighteen years ago) link
Also listened this morning to local EP by Lorraine Leckie and her Demons -- pretty decent Hank Wiliams "Lost Highway" cover at the end which reminds me of the Mekons's version (though maybe they changed the name? On *Fear and Whiskey* I think) and definitely captures the cheating-on theme of the song well, though most of the EP is more goth-folk in a Tori/Sinead mode, interesting when the instruments stretch themselves into drones at ends of songs but still not really my cup of tea. I do like "Rainbow," though, which has an AC/DC riff and a catchy rapped chorus that's shouted and not detached, and hence rocks.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link
and okay, here's the cdbaby link, you lazybones:
http://cdbaby.com/cd/kwilder3
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 2 May 2006 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link
True Brothers' *Wanted: Country Outlaw Tribute* is another good cdbaby country CD, with adequate-to-great obligatory covers of "Take This Job and Shove It," "You Never Even Called Me By My Name," "Just Good Old Boys," "Older Women," and (most suprisingly) the Swingin' Medallions "Double Shot of My Baby's Love" (one of my favorite songs in the world, though they don't make it sound like anywhere near as much a drunken frat party as the Medallions did; still, I love that they cover it at all and wonder if anybody else considers it country - where were the Medallions from, Memphis or somewhere? Louisiana? I forget). There are also some apparent covers of novelty songs I don't remember hearing before -- "Marie Laveau", a goofy Shel Silverstein song about looking as ugly as your mom or something, and "Rub It In," which appears to be mainly about suntan lotion and instructs you to rub it on their back and their sacroliliac. And the album closes with an original called "Country Outlaw Theme" where they talk about how their dad thought all country singers should be clean shaven with short hair, but then the True Bros (who are true bros, apparently) started listening to Willie and Waylon and Kinky and Bobby Bare after school, and now Big N Rich and Montgomery Gentry and Toby are "throwbacks" to the original outlaws. Not sure if anybody put it that way before, certainly not in a song.
What's weird is that on the cover of the *Wanted* album (from last year) the True Bros LOOK like hairy scraggly dirty outlaws, but on the cover of their *Hymns and Other Songs We Wrote Ourselves* from 2003 they look like super-clean-cut hee-hawing old-time country (preacher?) dorks in gold (lame'? what does lame' look like?) suits. So at first you think it's going to be a religious record, which it sometimes is, but then you notice there's a real good song about Dorian Gray ("based on the novel by Oscar Wilde") and a real good one about Jecklyl and Hyde and a real good one about how if you marry a banjo-pickin mama she might not do anything else but play banjo, not even cook. And others about getting married and dad getting buried next to a tree so he can be next to his wife for eternity. And other songs *are* Jesus songs, often talked like a rhyming sermon like that old deck-of-cards song (which might not have rhymed, come to think of it) and sometimes acapella (with Louvin/Delmore style brother harmonies); "Six Steps to Heaven" is my faovrite worship one so far, but there are 16 tracks (all fairly short) on the album, and I haven't really absorbed all of it. Instrumentation is fast catchy bluegrass, no showoff bullshit whatsoever. Most of the songs sound like forgotten old obscurities, but songwriting credits are mostly all "Jacky, Roger and Teresa True" except for "A Christmas Wish" by Ricky Dunn, and "missing You/Hats off to Web," which is said to be based on a Red Sovine tune.
Religon stuff on Albert Lee's new *Road Runner* (at least 75 percent a country CD, by an old rocker who appears to be born again or at least is doing a pretty good imitation of being born again) are a lot more reverent and boring. The stuff on the album I kind of like is the Junior Walker title cover, the Billy Burnette and Delbert McLinton songs that sort of sound like 1979 Dave Edmunds rockabilly but not as good, and the seven-minute instrumental guitar jam solo "Payola Blues." But even those I can take or leave, and the more reverent soft-rock (including numbers by Leo Kottke, Richard Thompson, and a horrible John Hiatt one called "Rock of Your Love", presumably from after Hiatt started sucking) are way too hard to get through. Ten Years After CD from last year was way, way more fun.
― xhuxk, Thursday, 4 May 2006 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 4 May 2006 20:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 5 May 2006 04:15 (eighteen years ago) link
http://cdbaby.com/cd/truebros2
― xhuxk, Friday, 5 May 2006 11:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 5 May 2006 13:01 (eighteen years ago) link
two albums kicking my ass this morning that i found out about not through cdbaby, but through myspace of all places (nope, i don't have a page, and have no intention of getting one, but i figured out how to do the music search): victory brothers' *kowboyz de loz angeleez* (probably the best big n rich *horse of a different color* substitute I've ever heard including ones by big n rich, and now vying with leanne kingwell as my album of the year) and penny dale's *undaunted* (the best stevie nicks album i've ever heard by a country singer, probably, and an immediate 2006 top ten candidate.) lots to say about these two, eventually, but i'll hold off for now.
also really liking irma thomas's *after the rain* on rounder, the "rain" obviously being katrina, though i kind of hate the mooshy shelter-from-storm piano ballad the album ends with though i do hope it provides solace to new orleans. what i love so far is "flowers" (soul about flowers on roadsides after car crashes, with a sound that i swear reminds me of "uncle tom's cabin" by warrant), "make me a pallet on the floor" (cheating with a painter, wow), "till i can't take it anymore" (country music in a soul voice, about how "you work your thing so well/I dream of heaven and live here in hell"), "these honey dos" (vampy bawdy boogie woogie where the honey dos are at first temptations but wind up also being about manners like please and thank you), and "stone survivor" (which is just plain funky).
― xhuxk, Friday, 5 May 2006 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=58969629
penny dale:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=8670245
― xhuxk, Friday, 5 May 2006 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhxuk, Friday, 5 May 2006 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 5 May 2006 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link
Willie Nelson has always deconstructed westerns, and maintained abelief in telling the truth about places buried under their own mythology. It is found on his album, the Red Headed Stranger and inany number of singles over decades. It is found, in his low, lean andhungry version of the traditional ballad "He was a Friend of Mine", which could so easily have been dismissed, because of its lyrics, andbecause of its placement on the soundtrack to that Heath and Jakemovie. After his soundtrack work, he released, on Howard Stern andthen i-tunes, a cover of the cult classic outlaw tune Cowboys are Frequently Secretly Fond of Each Other. The two songs entwine, andemerge as one text, working out familiar themes: the decimation thatunexpected desire can cause, ideas of masculinity and honour, theimplications of dereliction of duty, and larger, more formal concerns of isolation, landscape and comfort.
Cowboys…is the rare song that actually talks about what it means tofuck the same gender on the prairies. Fuck in any number of ways, fuckbecause they love each other, fuck because they are lonely, fuck because they want to be kept literally warm or have a companion, or tocontinue their lives outside the mainstream, as another kind ofoutlaws. Like any number of us, it is about what happens when otherscannot handle the fluidity and dangerous nature of desire. The song is a classic, because it catalogs the options for how bodies fittogether, and because it acknowledges that some of the options meanthat "there's always someone who says what the others just whisper/andmostly that someone is the first one to be shot down dead"
The original is done in waltz time, and has a theatrical winking andnodding. The music has the same kind of music hall extravagance thatcaused Jobraith to lose his career, and 30 years later for Rufus Wainwright to have one. (Think of it as a less secure, less ambiguous,less haunting version of the Magnetic Field's Papa was a Rodeo.) Theslippages of gender, sexuality, and desire emphasized here arebog-standard Freud, lines like "I believe to my soul/there is a feminine/and inside every lady/there is a deep manly voice/ to be madeclear", maintain gay men really want to be women and vice versa linethat seems so old fashioned in the land of Brokeback and theInternational Gay Rodeo Association.
The satisfaction in male companionship is a central theme in the bothsongs, in the film, in westerns in general. The codes of masculinityare Byzantine and violations of these codes are rewarded by violence. One of the reasons why Matthew Sheppard was left to die in that fieldin Wisconsin was the difference between city boys and country boys,between those who went to college, and those who were working men.Watching Brokeback Mountain, Ang Lee is as aware of this; as is Ned Sublette (the songwriter of Cowboys…) the hardness of the lovemaking,and the wrestling/shoving/physicality of the foreplay in the movieshow this. He was also wise choosing the solidity of Willie Nelson tosing over the credits, as a coda, a song that expressed issues ofmasculinity, obliquely. He was a Friend of Mine, comes from the ground of the west. It does not have an author, and the narrative is basic narrative, with little detail, some in cliché. He sings it with greattenderness, but little directness (as opposed to Dylan, who was neverreally tender).
Like most ballads, the key to "He was a Friend of Mine", is the repetition of the chorus. The lines "he never did wrong/a thousandmiles at home, and he never harmed no one" have an old fashioned,permanence—a depth of hagiography that was never really existent in either Clint Eastwood or in Roy Rogers. The two songs here are neverreally about fucking, but about how to live integrously in a land thatrewards anything but what it says it does.
Both performances then are about what the Quakers would call speaking truth to power, and farmers I know, would call handling your own shit.The laconic taciturn outside of the cowboy hides a soft center. Thereis an effort to keep secrets, to cause no trouble. There is something of the private text, spoken softly amongst friends, in He was a Friendof Mine, and Willie infuses all of the privacy, the sadness and theshock, in the line "Stoles away and cries". There is tension between being quietly silent and actually processing grief, a tension thatviolates the code of the west, just as admitting that the desires thatone cowboy has for another, may not only be geographic convenience,but about lust.
This might be Willie Nelson's American Recordings moment, a desire topush himself away from old complacencies, and old audiences. It often happens when someone's physical instrument is so ragged, and when thedesire is to communicate differently Nelson's voice is shot. But howragged he sounds here, and how broken he sounds, makes the two songs even sadder, stronger, more tragic. They are a return to questionsthat remain unsolved in the 70s, and their answers are of an old man:be generous to people, mourn the dead, fight for the living, refuse toapologize for love and desire. Together, they prove a testament toNelson's skills as an interpretive guide, and to someone who reallyknows cowboys.
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 12 May 2006 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 12 May 2006 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Friday, 12 May 2006 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 12 May 2006 23:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Friday, 12 May 2006 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link
the road hammers are headed by jason mccoy, who i have been talking about forever, there was a fascinating reality television seires putting together the band, lots of juicy bullshit about the nashville scene, hes really astute in terms of the pure commerical aspect, and he hasnt broken thru from canada yet. i have seen him maybe 4 times, and hes a solid guy too, never interviewed him, though i guess i should for somewhere because of what he thinks about the industry is as impt as his work,i can video tape and send the reality show, if you want chuck. (hes acutally all over cmt, he has had several making the video specials, an hour at christmas this year, a support the troops thing, and his videos are consisently in the top ten, hes toby keith big up north, though he won the CMA Global Country Award this year)
Jason is such an amazing muscian, with a voice like a bullet thru glass, and i am sort of disappointed by the road hammers because it doesnt flatter him, its a bit too much of a cliche, and his love of the good lord means that he holds back a bit when he shouldnt. (there is a scene when they are in the studio, when he is singing about white pills and red wine or something like that, and he felt really bad about that, because he didnt want to be a bad example)
singles to hear, solo: this used to be our townborn again in dixielanddoin it rightthis could take all nightkinda like its loveten million tear dropsdoing time in bakers field i lie i feel a sin comin' on she aint missin me and his covers of billy shaver are amazing (as is xmas cd)
anyways road hammers, good, jason mccoy, best thing out of country music in the last half decade
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 12 May 2006 23:58 (eighteen years ago) link
don, the nancy mccallion CD i got is self-titled, so it may not be as knew as i thought it was (though i could've sworn it's listed as 2005 on cdbaby, though artists cheat on years there all the time, i've noticed.) also, some copyrights on it date back to '98 and even '84. best tracks on it, seems to me so far, are 'the leaving kind,' 'reckless child,' 'misery,' and especially 'moon over the interstate' and especially especially 'money's moving up' (about how the trickle-down theory's a lie), and they do indeed sound fairly molly-esque to me, more than some of the more staid other tracks.
as far as responses to posts go, seemed to they'd pretty much dried up in recent weeks, and the thread had pret'near up and died except for my own posts. though hopefully that was just a temporary lull.
― xhuxk, Saturday, 13 May 2006 00:35 (eighteen years ago) link
It just flopped around like a fish on a table and after awhile I got sick of listening to it. A shame because I liked the first record and didn't expect such a mediocre second one.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Saturday, 13 May 2006 01:27 (eighteen years ago) link
hes not like dwight at all, hes more tender and almost milksop in a way, he emotes more then dwight ever did.
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 13 May 2006 03:07 (eighteen years ago) link
jason mccoy isnt milksop, wrong word...he emotes, with a depth and an almost tender meloncholy, a sort of melodrama, but not femminine at all, butch!
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 13 May 2006 03:25 (eighteen years ago) link
Don't give up on it, xhuxk. I've been neglecting it just cause I've been freakin swamped and I expect the same is true for others and I've been mostly listening to Go-Betweens albums lately. I think they may be the least country band to ever build music around acoustic guitars. P.S. I saw Tim Carroll and Elizabeth Cook this evening. Sweeter folks you'll never meet. Elizabeth has a new record coming out in Feb, and the single is: "Sometimes It Takes Balls to Be a Woman."
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 13 May 2006 04:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 13 May 2006 04:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Saturday, 13 May 2006 04:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Yep, that's exactly the one I got, too (including the '04 part).
And Anthony, if Jason McCoy solo is even *remotely* milksoppy, or even tenderly melancholy, I'm almost *positive* I'd prefer his Road Hammers stuff. Which isn't to say I wouldn't check him out solo.
I still totally love the cocaine and hangover songs on that Shooter album, and am stumped about why George or anybody else would think the latter, at least, doesn't have a masterful kick to it. If Poco or Pure Prairie ever rocked that hard, they hid ir from me.) (Didn't notice he'd switched the cover at the end; that stinks, both because his "Living Proof" sounded good last time I listened to it and because I sent my advance to either Frank or George or both, without closely checking the tracklist apparently, when my real one arrived.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 13 May 2006 13:35 (eighteen years ago) link
(though his last solo album, shes not missing missing me at all rocks the hell out of a broken heart)
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 13 May 2006 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 13 May 2006 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 13 May 2006 14:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Saturday, 13 May 2006 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 13 May 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link
I dunno, if it was such a commercial-careerism move (not that it'd necessarily be a bad thing if it was) wouldn't it consist of something other than country-rock trucker songs (hardly the most commercial subgenre out there)? How many trucker songs actually become c&w hits these days? or maybe they do in canada??) anyway, the more i listen, it's clear his "emotive" slow ones are the dullest songs on here (and so far the little feat and jerry reed covers seem the *least* dull -- though i like plenty of the truckin' originals too.)
― xhuxk, Saturday, 13 May 2006 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 14 May 2006 06:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Monday, 15 May 2006 06:00 (eighteen years ago) link
(As for the Go-Betweens, I think "Bellavista Terrace" probably is the place to start because it's an overview and that's the grown-up way, but I love "Spring Hill Fair" best of all, and I can't help thinking you're going to go mad for "Bachelor Kisses", and maybe "Part Company" (my favourite of all), so I'm half tempted to recomend you start there.)
― Tim (Tim), Monday, 15 May 2006 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link
he has a best of cd out right now, and honky tonk angels, the cd is ecellent as is fears lies and angels (i need to check that title)
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 00:13 (eighteen years ago) link
meanwhile i think i'm starting to come to turns with ashley monroe, a little. "he ain't coming back," her album's closer, is a breakfast breakup song (since she pours a cup of coffee in it) that seems to take its chorus's melody from one of my all-time breakfast breakup songs, "superwoman" by karyn white, but the breakfast breakup song it's paired with (since this one precedes it), "hank's cadillac," sounds like a teacher's pet is singing -- okay, maybe it's not a breakfast breakup song; wasn't paying attention to the (teacher's pet) title when i was listening to it, just to "if i'd kept the coffee strong," and regrets about all the other stuff she could've done different and he (hank?)'d still be around; the words are fine but the music's a bore. The two rockers, I guess (are there more?) are "can't let go" (another hard-to-let-go codependency-maybe song, same title mariah carey used once) and "pain pain" (which has the eddie rabbit love-me-in-the-rearview rap section and double entrende's about coming again). "that's why we call earch other baby" is the gender-quarrel duet, semi-rockabilly and not bad; who's the guy? (sounds like dwight yoakam, but maybe -- see my jason mccoy notes above -- everybody sounds like dwight to me this week). and then there's "satisfied," which feels dead in the water, and the song i'm really starting to hate, "pony," a preciously polished turd which seems to entail ashely being a little girl who wants a pony and wants a baby and wants to be your lady when she grows up--unless i totally heard it wrong; either way, get it out of my house, ok?
*born and raised* by self-released monroeville, PA six-piece cdbabies North of the Mason-Dixon (aka NOMAD) is interesting in a post-hair-metal world in that it includes (1) a cover of REO Speedwagon's "take it on the run" which sounds like the eagles, (2) a decent rocker called "farmer's daughter" that starts off seemingly swiping chordage from nazareth's "hair of the dog" even though NOMAD's idea of rocking is about one-twentieth what nazareth's idea of rocking was; (3) a track that sounds like billy ray cyrus doing a summer song halfway between bryan adams and kenny chesney; (4) a blatant bon jovi ballad imitation i don't like much called "i'm not your man; and (5) a decently drummed and horned rocker called "alone when you're lonely" that seems to employ cowbells. i also like the slightly latin bluegrassish lilt of "dyin' to live" and the hoedown jamming in "watch the girls." the "amazing grace" cover is okay, and the rest is no worse than lone star or rascal flatts. (in fact, i'd take the album anyday over the new rascal flatts CD, which i wound up liking two or three tracks on okay, but it still mainly stinks.)
road warriors song annoying me the most so far: "heart with four wheel drive". road warriors song reminding me most of big'n'rich so far: "i'm a road warrior," where they brag about their "pimped ride."
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 12:36 (eighteen years ago) link
I think that's the Kasey Chambers connection I noted earlier. I like Kasey, but that's one of her most pusillanimous tunes.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 13:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 04:11 (eighteen years ago) link
Now, rethinking the Road Hammers: I'm starting to the get an idea of what Anthony means about Jason McCoy's heart not being in the more rowdy trucker stuff. Outside of the two covers, which are real good but mostly because they're just plain great songs, the only song he really completely puts over, to my ears, is "Girl on the Billboard," which has a cool sort of modal/circular/fugue-ish verse structure and also must be the song I was referring to when I said he sounded like Dwight Yoakam, because it's the only one where he does. The one and only ballad, "Call it a Day," *does* seem somehow more heartfeltedly sung than the faster stuff, and it's not as dull as I implied upthread; the guy does lonesome weariness pretty well, I guess. But I also wouldn't say it's any *less* generic than the speedier tunes; just generic in a less energetic way. I like "I'm a Road Hammer" pretty well, but the five-minute "reprise" version of it at the end (with its jew's harp type break and remixed stretching-out effects) is more B'n'R than the regular version at the beginning, and though Jason also says "chillin' the most" in it, it's really not all *that* B''n'R; actually, toward the start of it, his voice reminds me a little of John Anderson for a line or two. "Nashville Bound" (as in "hellbent and Nashville bound") irritated me at first since its title seemed gratuitious in two different ways after they'd already done "East Bound and Down", but I'm a David Allan Coe and Charlie Daniels fan, so any song where long-haired country guys get in a fight with a redneck is okay by me. "Keep On Truckin'" is not Eddie Kendricks by any means (wow, I just checked Joel Whitburn's book; I had no idea his '73 proto-disco song of that name went #1 pop for two weeks!), but it's kinda funky regardless. And there's lots of little doo-dads, ignition noises and incidental tracks and a track of bloopers called "Flat Tires" (plus the theme song reprise) to make people think this 10-song (eight orignals) album has 14 songs on it, and I appreciate the ripoff shamelessness of that, but then again I didn't have to pay for the thing. Only song I hate is the Country-and-Westerbergish one, "Heart With Four Wheel Drive," which sounds as bland as bland can be.
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― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link
Roy wrote: P.S. I saw Tim Carroll and Elizabeth Cook this evening. Sweeter folks you'll never meet. Elizabeth has a new record coming out in Feb, and the single is: "Sometimes It Takes Balls to Be a Woman."
I'm back, I'm back. God, my mother's dying of cancer before my (and my sister's) eyes, we got this bad news a couple weeks ago. So I just have been worn out.
Tim Carroll and Elizabeth I've known for maybe 10 years. Great people.
I've been working, as much as I can in between this whole lousy situation--I did a piece on Mark Nevers for the Scene that should run next Wednesday, and he's a fascinating guy. Whatever else you can say about him or Bare or even Lambchop, he gets some cool sounds, and on this new (non-country, actually sorta "Adventure"-era Television/Pavement sounding) Lone Official record he did (they're a Nashville band led by a guy named Matt Button who writes songs about horseracing, feeling lost in the big city, and one kinda great one about bar fights!), Nevers is kinda a poet of the pedal steel or somethin' corny like that. Anyway, I found him real interesting, real cool (into punk rock and Eno and stuff) and he really uses those Music Row miking techniques mixed with his vintage 2-inch tape machines and so forth). I like the way his records sound, even the Candi Staton which I think Chuck mentioned he wasn't impressed by--well, it's probably a bit staid in a way, but it sounds great to me, real good revivalism that isn't stupid.
So far behind--I am also talking to Blaine Larsen sometime next week, so I got to sit down and re-listen to his new one.
I read some of the above posts, and will catch up tomorrow, I promise. I hope everyone here is doing OK--Anthony, Chuck, Roy, Don, everyone.
I did notice some talk about "Girl on the Billboard" above--the great version I know is by Del Reeves. And Chuck, remember the Dean Martin reissue of "Swinging Down Yonder" you were talking about? I saw a great film of him doing "Hominy Grits" from that record, around '52. Awesome.
Finally, it is terrible about Grant from the Go-Betweens. I don't know all their stuff, but I do like a few songs from "Tallulah" which is the most commonly praised one, I think, and from "The Friends of," the one they did in Oregon or wherever. But I never went the way of a lot of people with them, I never quite loved them or anything. They always seemed so serious, and I was always a bit put off by the angst or something. Angst, man, I do not need right now.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 20 May 2006 00:45 (eighteen years ago) link
much love ase
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 20 May 2006 00:57 (eighteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Sunday, 21 May 2006 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link
(his song girl in the war, is a gender reversal that fascinates, he sings about waiting for his gf, or wife, to come back from being killed...and since i think he is canadian, and we allow women to serve in combat here, and when he sings
And I got a girl in the war, Paul the only thing I know to doIs turn up the music and pray that she makes it through
it breaks my fucking heart, there have been a lot of protest songs lately, some god awful (bright eyes), and some brilliant (springsteen)but this is this most personal of an obit ive heard...
i can ysi if anyone wants to hear it
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 21 May 2006 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link
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― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 22 May 2006 04:27 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0335,christgau,46533,22.html
Me, I just played Hank III's cover (on a 2000-copy limited edition picture disc split 45 on oi!-friendly TKO Records) of Antiseen's catchiest song ever "Ruby Get Back to the Hills," and Hank performs the seemingly impossible task of TAKING ALL OF THE TUNE OUT OF AN ANTISEEN TUNE via his usual dried-out riverbank country nostalgia shtick turning into hack dime-a-dozen mosh noise bullshit halfway through, quite an accomplishment (being less melodic than Antiseen, I mean, since Antiseen generally make Motorhead seem like Abba in comparison), but I damned if I'll listen to it again (since he also extracts all the power and humor from the song.) I swear, III annoys me more and more as time goes on. (By the way, are his digs at Kid Rock because Hank Jr has called Kid his "son" or whatever once? That occured to me, and obviously it'd make sense.) Oddly, I actually enjoy the flipside, Antiseen doing "F.T.K." (= "Fuck the Kids," gratitously homophobic but at least thankfully not gratutiously pedophilic, and mostly just gratuitously get-offa-my-lawn-you-idiot-punk-rock-whippersnappers-before-I-get-my-shotgun curmudgeonhood, which I relate too); was that a Hank III song once? (Best new TKO 45 though, is "Broken Bottles" by a band named Broken Bottles, a droney slimey nasal tuneful punk clodhop about getting thrown out of a club that plays '80s dance music, then drinking in the street. That's the B-side; A-side "Suburban Dream" is more cliched but has an actual song to it, too--neighborhood watch amid picket fences; chorus for some reason saying "you and me, we could be the best of friends".)
― xhuxk, Monday, 22 May 2006 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link
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― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 22 May 2006 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link
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― don, Monday, 22 May 2006 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link
Now a question I've asked myself and that I don't have an answer for is: Why do I feel that this type of blues-soul is living within unnecessary constraints, snug in its form (especially since, for sure, there's a lot of variety, southern rock to slow blues to jazzy cloudbursts)? Anyhow, that's how I do feel, feel the same thing about the Jessi Colter (which I like quite a lot), that they're too far within a form, and I'm therefore feeling at a distance.
But I don't think that (for instance) Lindsay Lohan is unnecessarily constrained for not loading up her songs with blues licks and not stepping out of her forms.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 01:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 11:03 (eighteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:10 (eighteen years ago) link
"you've surely complained about current country being constrained in ways that current teen-pop {and current hip-hop} AREN'T"
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:18 (eighteen years ago) link
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Speaking of Garth, I've been trying to wade through his damn 17-song outtakes thingamajig from early this year, and I never get very far into it before I give up. Not sure why -- maybe just because it's so fucking long (like all the hip-hop albums I haven't been able to get through this year.) So far, I definitely like the song where he's leaving a bar but he doesn't know where so he asks the operator to trace his cellphone call to determine his global position, and I'm less sure about the one where God reincarnates him as a cowgirl's saddle so he'll be close to his two favorite things in life, a cowgirl and a horse. (The conceit of which reminds me somehow of "I Want to Sniff Sheila Young's Bicycle Seat After a 15-Mile Ride" by my old high school pals Luke Mucus and the Phlegm, though I doubt that's intentional.) Beyond that, Garth, I have no frigging idea yet.
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 12:33 (eighteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 14:21 (eighteen years ago) link
whos watching the acm 2006 awards show tonite?
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 15:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link
Anthony I ought one of the Jason McCoy records you recommended and it's great! It doesn't sound quite right to me (in a good way) and I'll try to work out why at some point when I'm less busy.
I bought my first Toby CD the other day, too: Honkytonk U (I'd managed to pick up the impression that he was going to be just too rock-ish for my namby tastes, I've no idea how...). I adore that, too.
Strange thing, not being a downloader, and not having a serviceable c&w radio station I can find here, the records I buy are the records I know. That means I am largely buying on the recommendations of you lot (filtered through what I understand of each of your respective tastes). I suspect this is giving me an idiosyncratic understanding of modern country music.
(All best wishes Edd, by the way.)
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 23 May 2006 16:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 23 May 2006 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link
Thanks too to Don for the recommendation, I'll be listening to that as soon as it chugs its way across the sea from Florida or wherever.
I'm off to see Neko Case tonight. I warmed to her last LP a bit over time, I think it has four or five tremendously good songs on it (It took me a good 25 listens over the course of a month to come to that conclusion, which makes me think I kind of forced myself into liking it but that's fine really, it's the liking thing that's important and I must have been hearing something worthwhile to give it that many goes, I suppose.)
― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 09:49 (eighteen years ago) link
how so, anthony? i only caught the song's tail end; noticed they had a bunch of old VFW vets (WWII age, maybe? But it's a Vietnam song, right?) up there in purple uniforms. also noticed that, despite the seeming seriousness of the occasion (acknowledged by Sugarland when they next accepted their award -- by the way, did they thank their dykey departed member? If not, they can go fuck themselves), Big still had on his crazy top-hat thing. Song's hard to get through on the album; I assume it would've been even more so on TV, so I'm not bummed that I missed it. Didn't watch much of the rest of the show -- "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk" with Vegas dancers was embarrasing (and Reba's butt puns introducing it were even more embarrassing); "Jesus Take the Wheel" seemed really dull, and I basically like both songs so maybe I was just in a crabby mood. Billy Ray Cyrus's daughter seemed smart as a whip and a real charmer (and smarter than her dad, who she had to remind to say one of his lines) when she presented an award, though. Did anybody manage to mention the Dixie Chicks?
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 24 May 2006 11:42 (eighteen years ago) link
maybe reifensthal is the wrong touchstone, but with the milatirized spectacle, it was the first thing that came to my head (i may be crabby too, because i used the phrase kinder kirche kuche to describe gretchen wilson, and the towering trace adkins, with the rockettes show girls was an all american Cabaret--it was a really strange show, really sort of unapolgetically neo-con, and stage managed, in a way that the grammies never were.
which is why the thompson qoute was so brilliant
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 11:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 24 May 2006 12:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:03 (eighteen years ago) link
Best song on the (so-so) new Drive-By Truckers is "Easy On Yourself" - it's dragged down by Isbell's nondescript vocals, and it's got pseudo-wise lyrics that amount to fuckall, but it has a good tune that sounds surprisingly like DioGuardi-Shanks in emotional Lohan-support mode. Also has good Truckers rattle-clatter guitar - conveying tunefulness via rattle-clatter has always been a Trucker strength.
Of course, 'twould probably be way better if Shanks & DioGuardi had written it, and way more evocative, emotional, ALIVE with Lindsay's pipes.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Two:Starting with a 20 foot projection of himself, ending with formation dancing vegas show girls, worshipping trace adkins, Honky Tonk Badonkadonk continues to triumph
Three:Jesus Take the Wheel, Carrie Underwood's new single, is intensely, powerfully, religious, desperate in its faith, and one of the best written songs this year. Her performance is overwhelming in its power. She cries at the end of the performance, and later, when winning, remembers to thank Simon Callow and 19 Records (cf Clarkson at the Grammies)
FourGretchen Wilson Politically Uncorrect, the second single to use the phrase low man on the totem pole (the other one is by Toby Keith), the most politically expolisive thing about the entire fucking song is the acknowledgement that america might actually have a working poor and talking about being for the working man, something that neither kerry nor bush were for the last election, its become somewhat of an anthem (THIS TIME WITH MERLE) who sings really well with Wilson, sort of a whiskey/honey kind of arrangement (the conflation of working class values with religion and the miltary has a kind of kinder kircher kuche vibe on the edges, esp. with the waving american flag motiff
FiveThis is the first performance that convinced me that the pretty blonde from sugar land was as a good singer as the scary dyke--the dyke (who may be fired now, cause i didnt see her playing this time) is still one of the best guitar players ive heard on recent radio, this ones a rocker (and quite a good time)
SixJo Dee Messina looks like somewhere b/w one of Prince's back up dancers, and Raquel Welch in 1 000 000 years BC
SevenMontgomery Gentry, continues to combine small town nostaliga, with a myriad of daddy issues. There is a different between the anger of working class rebellion in Gretchen Wilson, no matter how stage managed it is, and Gentry's who seems to think that if you are working at all, just shut up and quit yr bitching, for someone so loud they sure seem to like ideological compliance.
EightVince Gill one of the genuinely kind men in the industry, gives his humanitarian award to a small child with cancer, and yeah its mawkish and kind of sentimental, but unscripted and i find myself welling up.
NineLittle Big Town's Boondooks, useless for the first three minutes, the harmonic convergance of the last few lines, quick and free, are effortless, and so well constructed. It starts with this almost hip hop scat singing, and then goes into this round, almost a hipper barber shop, one of the best musical moments of the night.
Tenwe rock to live, we live to rock--rascall flatts (they dont)b)Kelly Clarkson doing Rascall Flatts ballads shows the strength of Clarksons' voice and the weakness of the the Flatts writings
ElevenThe Wright Brothers qoute the infamous Hunter Thompson line about the music industry being a plastic trench (they are doing it from memory, off teleprompter, because they paraphrase, the full qoute is: ""The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Quite bitter for a self conglaturatory wank fast.
Twelve:I love Sara Evans, but she hasnt been with in a thousand miles of anything resembling a coal mine.
Thirteen:Ever time I hear Brooks and Dunn, i hate them more and more, i am almost now becoming almost ill hearing them again, and i dont know why---i could use words like artifical nostaliga, or toxic sentiment but I like those things in other artists, and it could be the politics of the domestic, but thats one of the reasons why I listen to country. Its not even the music, church choirs withstanding, they are decent song writers and good instrumentalists...but i hate them, and this performance well constructed towards audience. IT confuses me.
FourteenMartina tries to do honky tonk or texas swing or something that requires singer less rigid and less safe. Shes horribly boring.
FifteenDwight Yoakham, ZZ Tops Bill Gibbons, The Byrds Chris Hillman, Blink 182's Travis Barker (!?), Brad Paisley, and members of the original Buck Band, and it doesnt sound bad, but then as long as you keep the energy up, its impossible to make Buck sound bad, and they keep the energy up. (Paisleys realtionship to traditonal country is really interesting, and it contiunes to be here, he seems a natural for the mateiral, but isnt as comfortable as even Barker) Its also Ballad heavy, aside from Act Naturally, which was kind od disappointing...has someone ever written on outlaw country and married pairs, because Bonnie Owens (an amazing singer and song writer on her own right) is getting the same kind of attention as Buck) Also The Streets of Bakersfield is really fucking political in its use of geography/place, sort of the anti Okie from Muskokie
SixteenKenny Chesney again.
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link
Roffling
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link
http://community.livejournal.com/poptimists, where you can get an idiosyncratic understanding of everything (cf. Lex on the six Britney singles and six Britney album tracks that he thinks are better than "...Baby One More Time," "Oops," and "Toxic."
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link
(One could call Shooter Jennings "blues-soul-country," but he's obviously in a different world from everyone else we've just mentioned. "Rock.")
Parnell's is a good album, but the voice doesn't seem up to the arrangements. And maybe the songwriting isn't, either. But I'd actually like to hear Toby Keith doing more of that kind of material. My favorite song of Toby's is "That's Not the Way It Is," which I called "Quiet Storm" when I reviewed it.
Robert Cray seems relevant here.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link
blues/soul/country: Tony Joe White, Eddie Hinton, Donnie Fritts (Fritts ain't no singer, though; I just heard this Jon Tiven-produced Oh Boy record of Fritts', on which DF and Lucinda Williams desecrate the Fritts-written "Breakfast in Bed" that Dusty did so seductively on "In Memphis."
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link
I had been warming a bit to B&D, but they really seemed like "douches" last night.
Paisley has really succeeded in provoking my interest. Now I might actually get his record. Do I really have to eat my Blaine Larsen vegetables first?
B&R will be at the memorial day National Symphony concert this weekend.
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 24 May 2006 18:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Wednesday, 24 May 2006 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link
Hells no! And as George says, they're not really boogieing better than your average bar band even with Coe fronting them. George hates the record; I guess I don't mind them being an average bar band; they're funky enough, and Coe manages to be Coe-worthy on top. Sure beats the rigid-assed thrash tedium they've always settled for.
I have no memory of the Driveby Truckers' "Easy On Yourself"; don't seem to've mentioned it up above, when I discussed the album, which I apparently liked less than Frank does. Song must've slipped right by me. And the album's no longer in my vicinity, so I can't check it.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 24 May 2006 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link
Dimebag or no, or Coe, they're never going to be more than a lousy to fair boogie band, regardless of who plays guitar. You don't deliver pepperoni pizza in cement mixer, so to speak. And that's why I didn't like the record. "Penitentiary Blues" has more groove and good I-IV-V from the studio hacks hired by Toilet Roll Teddie.
Anyway, out of sympathy, I'll probably give it another listen. But...
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Wednesday, 24 May 2006 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link
All of which meant that I arrived about a quarter of the way into Neko's show, soaked with rain and somewhat out of temper.
And she was pretty good considering, once or twice she even kinda sorta made me forget about other stuff. I ended up thinking that about 30% of her songs are fantastic and the rest end up being weaker re-treads of the good ones. Her voice is amazing and carries some of the material, I think. Her songwriting tuill reminds me of early Paddy McAloon.
I wouldn't want to live without "The Needle Has Landed", now.
All this talk of blues-soul-country puts me in mind of a couple of old Don Nix solo LPs on Stax-Enterprise which I have hanging around, bought years ago and put aside because (as I recall) they were a bit bluesy for me at the time. I should give them another whirl.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 25 May 2006 06:50 (eighteen years ago) link
who suppourted tim, and was kelly hogan involved? (god kelly hogan is an amazing singer, she redeems fox confessor brings the flood, and shes sexier too)
― anthony easton, Thursday, 25 May 2006 08:00 (eighteen years ago) link
I dunno who supported, I arrived late and grumpy. I have half a feeling KH may have been supporting, but I am not sure.
The harmony singer was called Rachel something and was tremendous.
I tend to agree that her voice isn't a country voice, but then the music isn't straightforward country music. Ultimately I think this stuff works when the songs are strong enough. I suppose that's blindingly obvious but that's never stopped me saying something before.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 25 May 2006 08:11 (eighteen years ago) link
OK, back to Blaine which I gotta get done, and then onto Chip Taylor's new one, which I haven't cracked open yet but which seems to have a song about Townes Van Zandt on it, I wonder if Townes woulda done it thata way.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 25 May 2006 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 25 May 2006 21:10 (eighteen years ago) link
I never quite understand why PFS is so wildly valued by some people, by the way. I like him but some people seem to think his work is head & shoulders above his contemporaries, I can't hear it.
One of the DBTs is David Hood's son?! Fantastic. I am also reeling from the idea of going and talking to the likes of D Hood, as if they're regular human beings. These are semi-mythic figures as far as I'm concerned.
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 26 May 2006 08:41 (eighteen years ago) link
That's Rachel Flotard, who does the spectacular harmonies on "The Needle Has Landed." My pick for Single That Isn't a Single (And Never Will Be) of 2006.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 26 May 2006 13:09 (eighteen years ago) link
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― George 'the Animal' Steele, Sunday, 28 May 2006 16:25 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 28 May 2006 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link
Grupo Exterminador and Los Tigres del Norte and Banda Pequenos Musical have all released good country albums this year, and Jenni Rivera has released two (that live disc kicks some butt, esp when she shifts into "Wasted Days and Wasted Nights").
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 28 May 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 28 May 2006 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link
http://livinginstereo.com/?p=163
I've been guilty of a few of these.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 29 May 2006 02:07 (eighteen years ago) link
That having been said, I want to go to this forum she talks about to get some real examples.
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 29 May 2006 02:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 29 May 2006 02:32 (eighteen years ago) link
Her strawman vs. your strawman vs. mine.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 29 May 2006 03:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 29 May 2006 03:28 (eighteen years ago) link
I wish I knew what she meant by a "rock sensibility," or why she thinks it's wrong to judge different genres by the one another's yardsticks. (Personally, I wish more people judged country by a disco sensibility, or a Latin sensibility, or a hip-hop sensibility, or a teen-pop sensibility. And visa-versa, for that matter.)
Entertaining list, though. I'm sure most writers are "guilty" of most of those transgressions, now and then, inasmuch as some/most of them actually qualify as transgressions. Maybe even a few writers are guilty of all of them. ("Strawman"-ness would be hard to avoid.)
Matt is right about the Grupo Exterminador CD (which I've mentioned on a couple other threads, somewhere). Haven't heard the live Jenni Rivera, though - Matt, is that on Fonovisa, or what label?
Roy, I should give your Bottle Rockets arguments more thought. They still strike me as a watery soft-rock band with vague melodies, and guitar raveups stucks at the ends of occasional songs to signify a wild-and-wooliness that the rest of the music (from the rhythm on up to the singing) gives no evidence to support. But yeah, I agree, the guitar climax of "Zoysia" has real beauty in it; just wish I didn't have to wait until the tail end of the album to get to it. And Hanneman's vocals never follow suit beauty-wise, and the melodies in general just aren't pretty or *ominous* enough for your *Tonight's The Night* comparison to make any sense to me. And if his writing is as nuanced as you say, his singing clearly doesn't grab me enough for me to pick up on the nuances. But I'm glad you have use for them.
― xhuxk, Monday, 29 May 2006 11:29 (eighteen years ago) link
>Declare that country music deals in “nostalgia” for a “past that never was.”<
She puts it in quotes, and says it twice, so she must have actually seen instances of it. Off hand, I'm not sure I have. (Though I've probably said myself that, say, certain country music doesn't sound much like earlier forms of country music it seems to be aiming for. Is that the same thing? And if so, how I am wrong? If not, what is she referring to? I'm guessing she means some critics claim country music frequently romanticizes America's past, right? Well, doesn't it? That's something American songs often do: Carry me back to my old Virginny home. But either way, who are these critics who dwell on that issue?) (Okay, maybe she's just saying this is a truism and platitude, taken for granted and better left unsaid. So do you just close your ears when Tim McGraw yearns for those wonderful days back when a coke was a coke and a ho was a ho and the wind was all that blew and when you said I'm down with that it meant you had the flu?)
― xhuxk, Monday, 29 May 2006 11:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 29 May 2006 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link
In another piece on Living In Stereo, "The Children Of Detroit City" (http://livinginstereo.com/?page_id=40), David Cantwell (the site's author and good pal o' mine) writes of the alt-country class of the '90s:
"So it bugs the shit out of me when critics, who apparently don’t know this context, dismiss these bands with glib pronouncements. (Bugged but unsurprised: most critics, truth be told, just don’t much care for anything that sounds remotely like country; it’s not as hip as traditional/alternative guitar rock and it surely isn’t as exotic as R&B and rap.) Critic Will Hermes, excerpted in this year’s Village Voice Pazz & Jop poll, offers an example that could easily stand for the rest: '(This music is) purposefully vague, nostalgic for times that even it realizes probably never were, and tending toward depression.'"
Some of David's points are a little dated--I think rock critics have started to get over their country-phobias--but I still run in to Hermes-esque glibness more than I'd like to.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 29 May 2006 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk, Monday, 29 May 2006 14:26 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, David Cantwell strangely believes I'm a nihilist (just saying):
http://www.zoilus.com/documents//2006/000746.php
― xhuxk, Monday, 29 May 2006 14:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 29 May 2006 14:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 29 May 2006 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 29 May 2006 15:13 (eighteen years ago) link
Anyway I'm not trying to pick a fight with David, who I respect and I honestly have nothing personally against; I'm more amused than anything else, just like I always am by critics who think a critic having different tastes than them is evidence of a moral failing, rather than just different ears or nervous systems. I mean, it's kind of silly to think that everybody who loves country music should by definition also love alt-country; one of the reasons those acts don't get played on commercial country stations is that they don't sound the same as the acts who do--which suggests that the fans of the ones who do, some of whom I'd assumed have listened to plenty of Bobby Bare during their lives, might *define* country differently. (And guess what? Not everybody equates indie-rock with rock, either.)
― xhuxk, Monday, 29 May 2006 15:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 29 May 2006 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link
Like I said, David's parenthetical about most rock critics not liking twang is kinda dated, and a distraction from his point. If critics like Hermes are dismissing the key alt-country bands of the mid '90s (and I can't find his original quote either, but that seems to be the context) because they are nostalgic for the past, then Hermes, whether or not he likes the sound of country, really doesn't understand their relationship to the present context. He's just regurgitating what a lot of rock critics have always said about country, especially in the context of its supposed inferiority to forward-looking, more inventive blah dee blah rock music.
Anyways, I thought David's nihilism comment was uncharacteristically flip and wrong.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 29 May 2006 16:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 29 May 2006 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 29 May 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 29 May 2006 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton, Monday, 29 May 2006 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 29 May 2006 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link
can we also talk about the dixies and the country charts, including singles, radio play and video, its got some views, and i love the new video, so the fuck country, fuck hix view ofthe band, and of the text seem to be failing, interestingly enough...
but i might be wrong?
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 29 May 2006 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 29 May 2006 22:16 (eighteen years ago) link
its getting played 3 times a day, and i think is charting on canadian cmt, but 3 times a day is actually fairly low. the video is better then the song.
(speaking of which, the world video by brad paisley, with the kids, does it creep any one out at all?)
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 29 May 2006 22:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Anyways, I just watched the video: five times in a row. Wow. If that isn't oil Natalie is smearing all over her bandmates it may as well be. I really liked the single to start with, but seeing the visual climax--an explosion of inky oil like a Gulf War nightmare revisited--with the sonic climax and the "write me a letter saying I better shut up and sing or my life will be over" verse gave me freakin chills. Plus the chalkboard message: "To talk without thinking is to shoot without aiming," a not so veiled dig at the Veep.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 29 May 2006 23:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Monday, 29 May 2006 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton, Tuesday, 30 May 2006 01:01 (eighteen years ago) link
That said, the album works for me and not because of the politics or even the anger but just because it seems to have unleashed Maines. She sounds terrific, supernatural really. Who else sings like this?
― werner T., Tuesday, 30 May 2006 15:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 30 May 2006 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Tuesday, 30 May 2006 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link
This'd be like Kool Moe Dee complaining that LL Cool J went out of his way to insult him.
Think the song lyrics are way too restrained (was hoping Natalie would sing "How do ya like me now, punk"); also that they don't engage the real issue, which isn't that the Dixies got a death threat (the poor things) but that they got blackballed, and if it happened to them it could happen to anyone.
But the death threat itself - shut up and sing or your life will be over - contains ambivalence. The guy wants her to sing, after all. And I wonder how much of the Dixie Chicks' popularity owes something to this basic ambivalence. I really don't know the country audience, which is hardly a monolith anyway, but I'd guess that some of the Dixies' appeal was that they came across as fresh and modern and not tied to the more pious and "traditional" tendencies in country; this could be attractive even (or especially) to someone who basically did feel himself aligned on the conservative side. The Dixies would represent potential freedom; but then when the Dixies act on this freedom, this same fan might be ready to throw them over (because he envies their freedom and is ready for them to go so far that he'll have to reject them). (But I'm not saying that this would be someone's main reason for liking the Dixies, if indeed it was ever anyone's partial reason.) I'd expect that some of you would have a better sense of the mainstream country audience than I do.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 06:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 06:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 10:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 10:59 (eighteen years ago) link
I think "shut up and sing or your life will be over" also applies to being blacklisted, and, surely the whole song does too. You don't have to read very far outside the text to get that it's also about not kissing and making up with country radio--at least not ready yet.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 11:15 (eighteen years ago) link
I made my bed and I sleep like a babyWith no regrets and I don’t mind sayin’It’s a sad sad story when a mother will teach herDaughter that she ought to hate a perfect strangerAnd how in the world can the words that I saidSend somebody so over the edgeThat they’d write me a letterSayin’ that I better shut up and singOr my life will be over
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link
xp: Or, to put it another way, if you're going to take the autobiographical angle, which everybody seems to be doing, probably because it's sort of inevitable at this point (though, I swear, it won't be inevitable to somebody seeing or hearing the song 10 or 20 years from now), does the song or video tell us anything about the Dixie Chicks or Natalie that we didn't already know? I'm skeptical that is shocks people's systems; to me, it's more or less what I would've expected. The video style tells the Triple A audience (many of whom probably had Dixie Chicks CDs on their shelves anyway) "It's okay to like us now, we're not hicks." Okay, okay, we get it already.
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 11:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 11:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 11:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 11:49 (eighteen years ago) link
travelling soilder is about the gulf, but its coded in veitnam, the video for this one, with oil making white dresses and clean water filthy beyond repair, is uncoded, it reminds me of macbeth, you know out out damn spot...
it is a refutation of the violence done to them, the whole album is a refutation of the violence done to them, and also as their status as thinking femminists, like loretta ca the pill or rated x (though its less polemic even then those two songs)
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 14:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 15:40 (eighteen years ago) link
It was on 60 Minutes. It was in the LA Times. It was in the NY Times. It was in TIME. Enough, already. They cannily used it as part of their promotional operation and it wound up being overdone, as usual. You could use Lex-Nex and I'm betting you'd find it in every feature on them in the western press.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link
.....
AP: "Taking The Long Way debuts at #1 on the Billboard Top 200 best-selling albums chart this week, with first week's sales of 525,829."
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 20:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link
What kind of silencing? The Dixie Chicks have no trouble getting sympathetic publicity. It's been simple for them to get whatever they'd like to say into the press. Unfortunately, whether on purpose by them or by accident due to the professional practice of the media, it's deadening.
Being menaced or threatened for speaking your mind in public or being thought of as unpatriotic isn't particularly novel or unique, even for celebrities.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, but what other artists (besides maybe Linda Ronstadt) have been as publicly jeered, insulted and threatened as the Dixie Chicks? Just because they have "sympathetic publicity" in the Times and The New Yorker doesn't mean those threats were any less serious or sad.
― max (maxreax), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link
the only reason why the chix are pitching this as A/A or whatever is that they are exiled by the political elite in nashville.
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link
As well as reinforcing a "country fans=idiot rednecks" stereotype.
― max (maxreax), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link
The Beatles after John Lennon said the Jesus thing.
I guess I'm missing what it takes to work up the empathetic sympathy after the press blitz. For better or worse, it's been converted into a sales pitch.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link
What a sneer by Martie. Limit what you can do? At the height of Garthmania, Mr. Brooks dropped 'We Shall Be Free' on his Wal-Mart shopping fanbase. When was the last time a hugely successful artist openly dismissed the majority of their fans as beneath them and embarrassingly uncool? Martie's limit comments sound more like when an indie rocker says 'We would never want to get too big'. They probably really do but know they wouldn't sell anyway even if they tried. Dixie Chicks already have what everyone strives for but seem especially unappreciative of success. Their extreme audience makeover seems to be working. Check this out:
[Amazon] Customers who bought {Taking The Long Way] also boughtHome ~ Dixie ChicksWe Shall Overcome: The Seeger Sessions ~ Bruce SpringsteenAll the Roadrunning ~ Mark Knopfler and Emmylou HarrisLiving With War ~ Neil YoungSurprise ~ Paul SimonGoodbye Alice in Wonderland ~ JewelWide Open Spaces ~ Dixie ChicksStand Still, Look Pretty ~ The Wreckers
― Carlos Keith (Buck_Wilde), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 22:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, one obvious precedent is k.d. lang, isn't it? Didn't country stations boycott her since she wasn't friendly enough withe beef-farming industry (she had beef with big beef!), or is that only a myth? and i'm not sure about lyle lovett, mary-chapin carpenter, or (maybe even politix-wise) steve earle, all of whom had country hits in the late '80s/early '90s i believe. obviously country radio is always redefining itself; were any of them blackballed, per se? (and for that matter, how often does garth, even, get on country radio these days? hell, maybe even billy ray cyrus is worth a mention...)
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 23:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 23:14 (eighteen years ago) link
News of the campaign prompted country radio to ban lang's records, and pro-veg activists countered with protests outside beef-belt radio stations and pro-lang pleas by veggie rockers Paul McCartney and Chrissie Hynde. To the amazement of Warner Bros. Records, lang's album sales skyrocketed--the flap had brought her music to the attention of a broader crowd.
Events got out of hand, however, when meat extremists defaced a sign outside Consort, Canada, welcoming visitors to the HOMETOWN OF K.D. LANG by scrawling "Eat beef, dyke" and making threats against lang's mother. That surreal summer inspired k.d. to "move on" from country music, recording Ingenue and scoring her biggest hit, "Constant Craving."
Without the confines of the country market, lang was also able to come out as gay. Country music, she told Rolling Stone in 1992, "didn't want to accept my viewpoints: vegetarianism, lesbianism, things that don't suit the stereotypical role of the female.... Looking back, it was perfect. I had success, like the Grammy, and yet never had airplay, so you had this huge contradiction--which I thrive on."
As much as I hate the "country fan=bigoted redneck" stereotype, a lot of the big country stations don't really help themselves out much with the stunts they pull.
― max (maxreax), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link
was it?? i thought she actually had country hits. (i'm no fan, have never liked her much, but i was definitely under that impression.)
AMG says she did okay on the country *charts*; not sure if said charts were more aligned with radio in the pre-soundscan age or not:
http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=11:8uq6g40ttvoz~T5
― xhuxk, Wednesday, 31 May 2006 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link
Someone--it might have been Kelefa Sanneh--pointed out that part of the problem with Natalie's statment was that it could be misconstrued as being insulting to Texas, which, it was thought, was much more grievous an insult.
― max (maxreax), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 23:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 1 June 2006 00:17 (eighteen years ago) link
That's their script and they're sticking to it.
Here's their first hit, says Uncle Larry. "Wide o-pen spaces...." Commercial.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Thursday, 1 June 2006 00:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 1 June 2006 00:25 (eighteen years ago) link
"It's all about not tolerating abuse," said Natalie to Uncle Larry. Go Natalie, you were born middle finger first. Cue song, and commercial.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Thursday, 1 June 2006 00:29 (eighteen years ago) link
Someone called in from Hattiesburg to say she is still a fan. Going to commercial again, gut showcase for album, better than a listening station almost.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Thursday, 1 June 2006 00:40 (eighteen years ago) link
But then -- slight glitch like Queeg on the stand at the climax of the Caine mutiny, the steel bearings come out of the pocket -- one of the not-Natalies still can't get over being called a slut.
Now there's a caller insisting Donald Rumsfeld is a coward and what do Natalie and not-Natalies think of him. Sidestep. "We have a story and we're sticking to it," says one of them. How true. Everybody laughs.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Thursday, 1 June 2006 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link
A caller from Canada calls in to thank the Chicks on behalf of ... Canada!
Song and commercial. Sheesh, these breaks are coming somewhat less than five minutes apart!
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Thursday, 1 June 2006 00:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Thursday, 1 June 2006 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link
country has always been parochial, and always had a colony outside--we know whats happening in nashville, but whos outside is fascinatingly unstable right now
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 1 June 2006 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk, Thursday, 1 June 2006 01:08 (eighteen years ago) link
And I mistype "Nashville" almost as much as I mistype "Christgau." (I just mistyped both words again JUST NOW, then corrected them.)
― xhuxk, Thursday, 1 June 2006 01:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 1 June 2006 01:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 1 June 2006 02:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chris Willman, Thursday, 1 June 2006 05:07 (eighteen years ago) link
I wish the Dixie Chicks had attacked the country audience and the industry more - more vehemently, more specifically, more articulately - and I could list a whole bunch of things I wish they'd said, but big deal, it wouldn't surprise you what I have to say on the subject. But I asked a question upthread that's a lot more interesting to me, because I don't know the answer and some of you might have a better feel for it than I do. The question is this:
Was part of the Chicks' broad appeal from the get-go - I mean, not from the get-go get-go, but from when they sacked Laura in favor of Natalie and went major label - that they didn't quite seem country, that they represented something more edgy and glamorous? And might not a mainstream country fan be excited by this difference and simultaneously wary of their going too far? So what excites the fan is also what primes the fan to turn on the Chicks; the fan is looking for and expecting the Chicks to eventually just be too different, so the fan is waiting for the Chicks to reveal themselves as "not one of us."
Is there anything to this?
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 06:06 (eighteen years ago) link
The "Not Ready To Make Nice" video owes a lot to the "Losing My Religion" video, I think.
― John Hunter, Thursday, 1 June 2006 06:31 (eighteen years ago) link
Sure they had an image makeover, but I think the broad appeal from from the Natalie get go is Natalie's voice. She just has an appealing voice. I really don't see any clues from the material of mass success OR future controversy although maybe a Bonnie Raitt cover says something. Bonnie is one of the queens of the nebulous audience they now seem to covet. I think turning on them is entirely from what Natalie said and they continue to say and not from their music. With sexism not helping of course. Martie only wants people who 'get it'. What was there to get? Anyone could get their music and they obviously did. And now no one can get their new video and I bet that makes them happy because they obviously want to be taken seriously. I'm happy to take them seriously as people but if they get too serious in their art that might not be such a good thing.
― Carlos Keith (Buck_Wilde), Thursday, 1 June 2006 08:11 (eighteen years ago) link
Not anymore or at least right now. Larry King/The Chicks were mind-numbing. If you were thinking of buying the CD, I certainly didn't have to after sitting through an hour of them. Wrote up what I scribbled on here while watching, added some more jokes and threw it on the blog.
I'm can't take them seriously since they're so obviously executing a script. Everytime I hear their music, the current shtick is superimposed on it.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Thursday, 1 June 2006 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― max (maxreax), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link
Has anyone checked sales figures for the new Chix? How much of their audience have they lost, I wonder, and shit, seems like they might've gained some? And yeah, they often sound like they're reading off a script, they all do it here.
So, came away from Blaine Larsen's new "Rockin' You Tonight" feeling some of the fun had been sucked out of the enterprise. Boy, I had forgotten just how spare, humorous and subtly subversive that first record of his was. Because it was a series of demos (one of them is actually Larsen in his barn overdubbing himself), it just sounds fresher than the new one. Which interconnects, thematically, with the first one, in interesting ways. But the opener, the hit "I Don't Know What She Said," is far less interesting than "Off to Join"'s "I've Been in Mexico" (where the point of the song is that he's taken a vacation down there, has come back to work relaxed, and therefore isn't a stressed-out mess like his boss--therefore, this song works into his theme of "becoming a man" while playing off his young-man's slight, slight, sane rebellion).
And the same pretty much goes for the whole thing. "I'm in Love with a Married Woman" and "Spoken Like a Man" work as a pairing on marriage, what it means to be a "real man" and be in a good marriage; but "I'm in Love" is a lame-ass joke. "Spoken" is far better; what Blaine is good at is playing it cool, letting his fucking great voice carry it, as on this tale of a guy who refuses to discuss his fucking with the other guys, admires the good-lookin' Coyote wannabe at the bar but who, like the young Vito Corleone in "Godfather 2," only has eyes for his wife. Very good song.
"Someone Is Me" is one of those let's-pick-up-our-trash and tip-waitresses-well songs that substitue individual action for political action, right? Blaine is looked at funny when he prays at a diner on some mythical Main Street, and sees weeds choking the ol' baseball field. So, someone is me, let's go cut weeds and make the world better. I mean, I pick up trash and I tip good, but you need an army of similar-minded people to turn the world around. This kind of thing wastes his talent.
"Lips of a Bottle" is really good, though, a 6/8 ballad that uses those cool false endings, kinda greasy or at least stained, a classic country song. And a duet with Gretchen, and shit, Blaine should become like one of those eternal duet guys, get some Melba Montgomery-soundalike, or do like George and just marry Gretchen Wilson or something.
"I Don't Wanna Work That Hard" is analagous to the first record's "Yessireebob," about playing it cool and wanting to transcend class by getting a job that doesn't require too much ass-kissing, one that (as in "Yessiree") might involve a little towel-holding for a half-naked girl on the Cozumel beach. These are interesting songs that get at class in real interesting ways. And careerism, and how to become a "man" if you will...in short, this guy, to my ears, really has talent and could be a major figure, because he's got a fantastic voice with real shadings and nuance, but this standard-issue Nashville songwriting only halfway gets him there.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:10 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm assuming, too, that Cowboy Troy's co-hosting of the amateur pro country singer talent search didn't help him saleswise. I didn't watch all of it but I never heard them play his music. They did playBig & Rich's and the commercial featuring "Coming To Your City" ran all the time.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Thursday, 1 June 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― don, Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link
Leanne Kingwell, on the other hand, sent me mail that indicates her ballad "More" was number 7 on the US college chart.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Thursday, 1 June 2006 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link
so, in the N-ville Scene this week, letters, jeff pitcher writes that michael mccall shares a sentiment with one of those right-wing am-radio guys who lambasted the chix for their failure to appreciate how hard he was trying to forgive them. pitcher says "I never liked them--I thought they were this decade's Mary Chapin Carpenter (huh? is that a good analogy?). Despite substantial presence, skill and talent, I found them a tokenit, fake-edgy act allowed into the mix to 'prove' that country's power brokers really don't regulate the content's POV as rigidly as they in fact do...'Earl' was a phony-assed piece of cutesy crap that reeked of being written on a computer in Green Hills (upper-middle class mall-land of SW Nashville)....I deeply respect these gals (gals) for publicly refusing to make nice with the troglodytes who crushed their CDs with tractors in a bizarre Dogpatch-Jesus-hadi version of an Islamist bookburning. I don't even care if the record's any good." He then closes by saying that if mccall had had his writings burned as have the chix, mccall'd see why the chix should not back down.
reading mccall's piece again, I see that he's just accusing them of being sick of america's heartland and the people who burn their records, and that seems pretty reasonable to me, since i live amongst many people who would burn a chix record or tell me i need to support the troops and so forth. he says the record's too slow, not rowdy enough. they've written almost all the songs themselves this time, they worked with sheryl crow, gary louris, benmont tench. there's nothing that suggest mccall isn't sympathetic, he basically says the record's a drag that seems stuck in therpeutic-angry mode. "The trio don't seem able to let go of a particular harsh, life-changing episode." the photo caption is kind of simplistic: "they may have gotten a bum rap, but the Dixie Chicks need to get over it." Get over it, Chix. maybe it's just that time of the month...
I dunno, the exchange is so typical, a fan who is too hip to think about the music too much and sees it all as a Screwing the Man anti-Music Row situation, the Chix too dumb to realize they're just being used, such an us-vs.-them situation and then total overreaction to a review that may or may not work but which just basically says, this record's not much fun, it lectures and it's a bad media event, a real let-down. And so, perhaps, it's 'cause no one in Nashville ever has a sense of humor, I mean why couldn't the Chix have made a funny album about the whole thing, just blow it up and revel in it? Obviously, they're right about Bush.
But of course, that's never gonna happen, the Chix are going to do a song about their grandmother who has Alzheimer's. the more I think about all this, the more I realize they're probably walking around scared all the time, worried some nut is going to jump out from around the corner. I would, most likely.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link
so, in the N-ville Scene this week, letters, jeff pitcher writes that michael mccall shares a sentiment with one of those right-wing am-radio guys who lambasted the chix for their failure to appreciate how hard he was trying to forgive them. pitcher says "I never liked them--I thought they were this decade's Mary Chapin Carpenter (huh? is that a good analogy?). Despite substantial presence, skill and talent, I found them a tokenist, fake-edgy act allowed into the mix to 'prove' that country's power brokers really don't regulate the content's POV as rigidly as they in fact do...'Earl' was a phony-assed piece of cutesy crap that reeked of being written on a computer in Green Hills (upper-middle class mall-land of SW Nashville)....I deeply respect these gals (gals) for publicly refusing to make nice with the troglodytes who crushed their CDs with tractors in a bizarre Dogpatch-Jesus-hadi version of an Islamist bookburning. I don't even care if the record's any good." He then closes by saying that if mccall had had his writings burned as have the chix, mccall'd see why the chix should not back down.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link
Heck, even when the repairmen or the painters come to the house in Pasadena for the day, you have to keep 'em off of politics and talk about pets. I can't remember when it wasn't this way, if ever.
But George, it seems like you're blaming the Chicks entirely
Yeah, I've had enough in the short term. It'll wear off not that it matters. And no, I don't think their "incident" was at all a calculation for publicity. -Now- what they're doing is calculation.It's what the media wants, though, so it's a two-way street.
― George 'the Animal' Steele, Thursday, 1 June 2006 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.takeemastheycome.blogspot.com/
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 2 June 2006 12:53 (eighteen years ago) link
In non-Dixie-Chick country, the best song on this '04 cdbaby CD is a girls night out song called "Girls Night In." The rest of it's OK:
http://cdbaby.com/cd/beckyhobbs3
I've also been listening to and liking the debut by Carter Falco, which has a good sense of rhythm and a good sense of humor and two songs co-starring Shooter Jennings and one song called "Galveston" which isn't the Glen Campbell one and one song called "Union Song" which was written by Tom Morello of all people and sounds like Georgia Satellites crossed with Steve Earle when he didn't suck, and also fortunately sounds nothing like Rage Against the Machine, and has one line apparently shouted by California grocery workers.
― xhuxk, Friday, 2 June 2006 13:24 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm disappointed at first listen by the new Chris Knight, I like his attitude and he's still a good songwriter but he's gotten a bit drearier in an attempt to be more "real," shame about that, I liked The Jealous Kind quite a bit, especially the Matraca Berg song "Devil Behind the Wheel".
I bought the Dixie Chicks album but I haven't heard it yet because I got it for my wife and she wants to return it to Target so she can re-buy it thru Amazon so she can save 2 dollars, I swear I will never understand women sometimes. Plus now that I'm not writing for money anymore I can't even say "BUT MY FREELANCE CAREER WAAAAAH".
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link
im beginning to worry because im listening to almost no chart country these days and am listening to a large amount of indie folk, like im regressing into college era meloncholy and wisdom
make it go away
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:32 (eighteen years ago) link
"Tell me how many CDs have to die..."
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:56 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.dickdestiny.com/blog/2006/06/gobblers-old-men-young-men-dead-men.html
― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Friday, 2 June 2006 22:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Saturday, 3 June 2006 18:57 (eighteen years ago) link
The only song I've heard by other Wrecker Jessica Harp is "Perfectly," which is likable enough in a sub-Marit, sub-Skye way. She can't be my paper doll, she avers. (Hmmm, I'm listening to it right now and liking it more than I had previously. Does remind me of Larsen but with power chords and without Larsen's impishness and funny cabaret; Harp did the song before Under the Surface, and probably is worth checking out in her own right.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link
I won't know for a while what I think of the Dixie Chicks album. My favorites so far are the two angry rockers, but "Silent House" feels more crucial. More typical, at any rate. The Dixies' longplayers have always had stretches of blah, and most of this album is nice enough for blah, soft rock mainly, with interesting arrangements but the melodies aren't kicking in, at least not yet. "Silent House" is an exception: soft beauty that kicks hard with its beauty while staying soft. Maybe I'll figure out why when I get back from breakfast.... EDIT: OK, it's now after breakfast - after lunch even. My wisdom is "has something to do with being in the key of C-sharp but - when the melody shifts - passing through the relative major (E-flat) on the way to the fourth (F)." Like, that explains it. Anyway, sounds good.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link
(I'm not even tired; don't know why I'm fucking up all my posts.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 4 June 2006 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 5 June 2006 02:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 5 June 2006 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 5 June 2006 05:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 5 June 2006 05:52 (eighteen years ago) link
I'll have a longish thing on Blaine Larsen's two records up on Nashville Scene this Wednesday.
Anyone heard Ronnie Milsap's Keith Stegall-produced new one, "My Life"?
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 5 June 2006 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Jay Vee's Return (Manon_69), Monday, 5 June 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link
I am thinking this Dixie Chick album is very very good--despite being too long, with at least three tracks of blatant filler. What Jeff Lynne song or Tom Petty song or Traveling Wilburys song is the rhythm part for Voices In My Head? And I love the sitarified 12 string or whatever it is. A radio edit--half the songs flirt with the 5 minute mark, more FU to country radio--and pre-incident time travel and it would be one of the best things on Clear Channel.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:37 (eighteen years ago) link
The banjo on "Lubbuck or Leave It" freaks me out--I swear, Rubin went over every arpeggiated note and cut out anything that didn't work in a modal, Celtic way. It end up sounding like tiny ballpeen hammers dancing angrily, but also teasingly.
― Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 04:48 (eighteen years ago) link
or just read the paste peice
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 05:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 05:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 05:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 6 June 2006 18:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 01:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― don goodfella (dow), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 02:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 04:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link
longer but also more consitent than the becky hobbs CD i linked to up above:
http://cdbaby.com/cd/beckyhobbs4
which is her best-of.best song on it: "mama was a working man."
also listening to:
lucky 7, *one way track* (parts of which remind of the blasters, joe king carrasco and the crowns, dave edmunds)
marshall tucker band, *we're going to be here for a while!: live on long island, 4-18-80* (shout! factory)
have not been motivated to listen to these much:new blaine larsen CDnew trent willmon CD
okay, back to hiding in my cave now.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link
also, i like the bop-bop-bop pop backing voices in "i like it," and "voice inside my head" sugguests sheryl crow plus tom petty's guitar player (rather than the funkiest song the police ever did.)
(i never got a promo, but when i sold my other promos to my promo-buying guy, he traded me a copy. copies of damone and wolfmother too. damone is real good, especially "out here all night" and "outta my way," the latter of which sounds a lot like "nothing but a good time" by poison except maybe better. wolfmother have been annoying the hell out of me. sometimes their riffs are catchy, but the singer sounds even more like jack white with anorexia than i'd remembered.)
also, bob dylan is a lot better than anthony thinks.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link
Notify the Pulitzer committees.
You have a fine fellow in that promo-buying guy. At Amoeba, you just get sneered at which makes the stuff like that latest Spencer Dickinson, which I'm assuming it going to be, useless. Actually, everything I get is useless. I think they plan it that way. The only two things that weren't were bought. The Crash Kelly promo was a beaut, too. In a Radio Shack paper sleeve with their name in magic marker on the CD-R.
― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link
You have no idea. He makes HOUSE CALLS. And I get FINDER'S FEES. Now if I only I got more than a fraction of the promos that I was getting in the mail two months ago. (Or even if I got as many as I was getting in the mail eight years ago, before I had a job in the first place.) (But for whatever it's worth, my copy of the Crash Kelly CD was a markered CD-R too. Either way, it's a great album.)
> nothing I'd read about Oakley Hall really gave me the impression I got from listening:"country rock,"<
Yeah, Don, I agree. As much country rock as "freak folk". But do you like anything else on the CD as much as the admittedly Fairported "House Carpenter"? I don't think I do. Maybe the "me and my baby in a knock-down drag" one--I guess that would be "Living In Sin in the USA," maybe? Whatever track #4 is called. And a couple other cuts have a bit of stomp and psych to them, but most of them don't leave much of a lasting impression. I definitely prefer when the girl's singing to when the guy is. What am I missing here?
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link
So that would be the single and "Lubbock or Leave It", right? Or am I missing one?
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 7 June 2006 22:46 (eighteen years ago) link
Is "I Like It" maybe the other rocker? "Lubbock" is really the only one with a faster tempo so I'm not sure (thrilled that it mentions Athens, GA even if it's indirectly dismissive).
I hear a good bit of alt-country throughout, "Not Ready" and "Everybody Knows" both remind me at times of the Jayhawks, not surprising when Louris co-wrote the latter. "I Hope" sounds like something from one of Shelby Lynne's last couple of records, so I imagine Chuck hates it (fwiw, I don't care for it too much either though).
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Thursday, 8 June 2006 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 8 June 2006 01:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 8 June 2006 01:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 8 June 2006 01:39 (eighteen years ago) link
haven't heard the watson yet, though.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 8 June 2006 12:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Thursday, 8 June 2006 19:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 8 June 2006 20:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 11 June 2006 08:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 11 June 2006 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link
So okay, Dixie Chicks. Good album, it turns out. Almost every song (give or take the two dogs to my ears, "Lullaby" and "Easy Silence") kicks in within a couple listens; not very many albums this year (in any genre) you can say that about. My favorites are "The Long Way Around" (not about high school, but life *after* high school) and "I Like It" (Motowny pop-r&b about getting so high ON LIFE you don't ever wanna come down, take that, Axl; also the closest thing to a funky song on the album), followed I guess (though not necessarily in this order) by "Not Ready to Make Nice" (not all THAT angry or THAT much a rocker), "Lubbock or Leav It" (ditto, and inasmuch as it's a rocker it's a genre-piece rocker in the tradition of plenty of lady-sung country rock hits of recent years, with fiddles, and yeah I guess the layered vocals are kinda Fleetwood Mac), "Voice Inside My Head" (aka "The Sheryl Crow Song"), "Baby Hold On" (starts kinda so-what -- and more Shelby-like than the gospel song at the end, I'd say -- but I love the buildup to the climactic complex mesh of vocals). Beyond that (kinda like the latest Pink album, come to think of it; the best songs on that one by the way are easily "Leave Me Alone [I'm Lonely]" and "U + Ur Hand", the latter of which has Pink's most rock *and* most rap vocal; most country song on Pink's album is her sorta Janis-voiced "The One That Got Away," which is nice but'd be better if it had a hook or two), lots of completely pleasant though somewhat forgettable and often wishy-washy midtempo power ballads: "Everybody Knows" has an extremely catchy chorus, it turns out, but fairly boring verses; "Bitter End" should be called "Farewell to Old Friends" and it's just okay; "Silent House" I'm stumped by since Frank seemed intrigued by it above -- more bluegrassy, gets powerchordy, fine, but so?; "Favorite Year," not bad but so?; "So Hard," nice power-ballad buildup I guess; "I Hope," not great but also not horrible as gospel-pop goes, I honestly don't hate it as much as Josh Love predicted I would above, basically it hits me as corny and unconvincing but still lively enough, not just going through the tasteful motions of blowing smoke in the air in a cocktail bar like most recent Shelby does, but again so what? Still, a really listenable album. And mostly not a fuck you to anything.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 11 June 2006 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 11 June 2006 15:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 11 June 2006 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 11 June 2006 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Overall, I think it's better than Jamey Johnson's record, which I still like a lot--shit, both guys are really fine singers, where they comin' from? Larsen looks too young to be so savvy, and to be flyin' around in a plane...but like I say, I think he's great, smart, and he's doing well, moving to Nashville and building a recording studio in his house, he says. And he's a good guy, put his mom thru school with his advance...
And, Chuck--I got a spare copy of Larsen's first CD that I'd be more than glad to send to ya. E-mail me your address, if you want it...
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 11 June 2006 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 11 June 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 11 June 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, but I wasn't talking about the relative minor. But then again, I have no fucking idea what I was talking about since looking back I don't see where I'm making any sense. Did I mean to write that the key was C-minor (not C-sharp, which it most certainly isn't)? I don't know if it is C-minor though; seems to be one of the things where initially they're suppressing the "mi" not altogether. But they do pass through E-flat (which is the C-minor's relative major, assuming the key is C-minor, which... oh I don't know, this is one reason I gave up as a musician; maybe Ian will return and set me straight), and the quiet pang comes from that E-flat. They also do some nice stuff in sometimes giving you an F and sometimes giving you an F-minor (it that is what they're doing); maybe the word "modulate" is relevant. Damned if I know.
Yeah, I was considering "Not Ready to Make Nice" as the other angry rocker; I'll concede it's something of a slow rocker, but it's a rocker nonetheless, emotionally; ironically enough, it's the sort of slow burner that Trivis Tritt would totally nail. (Wasn't Tritt one of the guys who piled on the Dixie Chicks?)
You guys' referring to the Dixie Chicks as DC always confuses me, since over at Poptimists and related LJ sites DC means one and only one thing, not Dixie Chicks and not District of Columbia but Destiny's Child.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 11 June 2006 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link
Merle Haggard: There's a lot of difference between the Dixie Chicks and me.
But then, what's new about momma and grandma not liking war? I'll criticize the country audience and say it to them. Grandma didn't like war when Bob Wills was alive. I don't see the shock factor in what the Dixie Chicks did, and it makes me afraid that America thinks that way. You can't even criticize the United States without ruining your credibility. Haven't we gone too far? Doesn't that make you afraid?
They want to wiretap us. They want to listen to all our conversations. How can you find that good? Are we happy to give up these freedoms? Are we happy for people that have to fight all over the world?
The counter decisions that are being made don't seem to be lining up with each other.
Boyd: I want to give you a chance to talk about your new album. There's a lot of duality to "Chicago Wind." You've got this very political side that we've talked about, and then you've also got the side that is just classic Merle - the sweeping ballads, and the barroom singalongs.
Haggard: That's probably what I should do - just sing my songs and not speak my mind.
Boyd: Now why do you say that?
Merle Haggard: I don't feel safe to make my opinions known. I fear of somebody bombing my house.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 11 June 2006 23:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 11 June 2006 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 11 June 2006 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Except I think it's really on the way to D-minor (which is F's relative minor), or to some variant. But the E-flat is definitely an E-flat.
Don't pay me any mind.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 11 June 2006 23:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Monday, 12 June 2006 02:12 (eighteen years ago) link
more later--but right now, listening to ronnie milsap's new keith stegall-produced "my life." optimist meliorist pop at its most soulful; something very false and falsely antic, maybe the word is, about ronnie, yet he's very good. can't quite figure it out--the first song starts with a jewsharp-fueled rhythm track; another one about how americans move too fast mentions grande lattes; yet another, called "local girls" and the first single (not graham parker's song) mentions "ol' carlos santana." still, this is really ace songwriting nashville-style and for instance i quite love ronnie doing one called "somewhere dry" where he has to get out of the humid south and out to dry california. he's overly professional yet there are moments when i identify with him totally, and wish i were in his world of immaculate surfaces and many braille-coded custom Ronnie Milsap Koffee Kups with his picture on it. in short, charlie rich is dead but ronnie does just fine.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link
more later--but right now, listening to ronnie milsap's new keith stegall-produced "my life." optimist meliorist pop at its most soulful; something very false and falsely antic, maybe the word is, about ronnie, yet he's very good. can't quite figure it out--the first song starts with a jewsharp-fueled rhythm track; another one about how americans move too fast mentions grande lattes; yet another, called "local girls" and the first single (not graham parker's song), mentions "ol' carlos santana." still, this is really ace songwriting nashville-style and for instance i quite love ronnie doing one called "somewhere dry" where he has to get out of the humid south and out to dry california. he's overly professional yet there are moments when i identify with him totally, and wish i were in his world of immaculate surfaces and many braille-coded custom Ronnie Milsap Koffee Kups with his picture on it. in short, charlie rich is dead but ronnie does just fine.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 12 June 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Charles Joseph Tarcisius Eddy (xheddy), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops i mean xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Monday, 12 June 2006 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 12 June 2006 20:38 (eighteen years ago) link
also liking (speaking of southern soul) *candy licker: the sex & soul of marvin sease* (jive/legacy) not all of which concerns muff diving, and at least "hoochie mama" of which has zapp-style robot-funk freakazoids reciting the names of several of the united states.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 12 June 2006 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 12 June 2006 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 12 June 2006 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link
And Anthony, you never heard, like, "Any Day Now" by Milsap? One of those hits that's so squishy and ubiquitous, you're always shocked when you learn it's a real thing with a real name.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 12 June 2006 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link
And Bob Wills was big during World War II, right? I'll refrain from joking about Western swing bandleader Adolph Hofner, who may or may not have been against our involvement in the war then as well. (But I do recommend *South Texas Swing: His Early Recordings, 1935-55* on Arhoolie.) (And actually, he was more Czech than German, apparently.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 12 June 2006 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 12 June 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Monday, 12 June 2006 23:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 12 June 2006 23:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 13 June 2006 02:16 (eighteen years ago) link
http://cdbaby.com/cd/alanbros
Marvin Sease CD is way less gloppy and ballady than Matt suggests (or maybe I just have a higher glop tolerance than he does; see also the Alan Bros!); most of it gets a good '70s smooth-jazzy funk disco groove going. And lots of the songs have pre-old-school "raps" (i.e., talking as singing, sometimes like a preacher's sermon) in them, which are really fun. And sure, the opening track "Do You Want a Licker?" is awful if you want it to be, but it's just too silly to complain about; ditto the other bookend, a five-minute live "Candy Licker 2005." Also, the ballads are pretty good, for the most part. "Don't Forget to Tell On You" sounds kind of like "Tell it Like It Is." But my favorite cuts are probably "I'm Mr Jody," the backdoor man song that starts with an ominous phone call, and the 12-step fix-your-life number "I Gotta Clean Up." (Has anybody ever written a good essay about Jody? He's the guy back on the block who's having sex to your girl while you're in the Army, and I get the idea he shows up in lots of Southern soul songs: Doesn't Johnnie Taylor have one about him, too*? As do, I would assume, other folks.)
* - yep, I just checked Whitburn: "Jody's Got Your Girl and Gone," went to number 28 in 1971. (Hey, sounds like a good EMP proposal!)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 12:19 (eighteen years ago) link
Ha, just noticed this on the Alan Bros page, how cool!
>Mel "Alan" Pachuta brings to the band awesome natural ability and years of Bass playing. With his band the "Human Beinz" Mel enjoyed great success and toured the world with hits like "Nobody but Me".<
Also sounds like their r&b/boy band harmonies might come from gospel music, judging from their page (though they're also blues fans).
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 12:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 12:39 (eighteen years ago) link
I only know the older, cunnilingual and happy to oblige, ma'am, Marvin Sease stuff--he's really good. "Marvin Sease" on London from late '80s is a good 'un. One of those artists who've been working the I-55 corridor from Memphis to the Louisiana border, forever.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link
http://soulfuldetroit.com/archives/10238/9918.html?1079610632
― Sang Freud (jeff_s), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 15:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:17 (eighteen years ago) link
http://p211.ezboard.com/fwordoriginsorgfrm4.showMessage?topicID=153.topic
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 14 June 2006 23:18 (eighteen years ago) link
three things i learned while reading a kelefa sanneh review in the times this morning:1) "someone is me" on blaine larsen's album (the clean-up-exurbia song, which for some reason i kept calling "someone LIKE me" above when really its title means "i AM somebody") is apparently also a track on the new kenny rogers album.2) a cover of "girl next door" by saving jane, the original of which i still don't think i've ever heard, has apparently been added to the new julie roberts album, though it's still not on the advance CD i have, which i've barely listened to at all because i keep forgetting i have it because it was sent in one of those long skinny cardboard greeting-card-like sleeves that record companies send advance promos in sometimes and that hides it from my eyes.3) trace adkins apparently also did a version of "break down here," off julie roberts's first album. i bet it wasn't as good as hers.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 15 June 2006 12:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 15 June 2006 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link
can we talk about the sexual politics of the new toby video
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 15 June 2006 20:49 (eighteen years ago) link
So I just got got emailed the new Julie Roberts CD from Mercury, downloadable via links. So maybe Don is right. A wave of the future. There goes my daily walking-to-the-mailbox-down-the-block exercise.
― xhukx (xheddy), Thursday, 15 June 2006 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 15 June 2006 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 15 June 2006 21:32 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqbGru-1sq0&search=toby%20keith
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 15 June 2006 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link
Why do you guys even care? It's not like you're going to do anything about it, like write something pointed and critical. "Here, take this shit and eat it" -- is what that p.r. statement says. Why not ask how much and what color?
"Promo Only program/player" is another piece of digital rights management software you get to download to your machine for the "privilege" of listening to a promotional copy. Yeah, sure, the company is going to make available unencumbered digital music files.
You're so used to having sand kicked in your face, now you've come to like it.
Oh, heavens, they'll take me off their e-mail list if I complain, then I won't even get the tips to the promo links.
You wanna bet they continue sending CDs to newspapers? They know the people on staff get flooded with material and, boy, isn't it smart to just give them a reason to ignore your product because the day's already too long and corporate network rules frowns on the downloading of outside executables to the system?
Some of you might want to consider, once you've downloaded a bunch of different firm's "audio content managers," what that means to your operating system when you're trying to listen to music that ISN'T mediated by either of them. Or what if the same piece of music is mediated by both at the same time?
Oh, my computer acts squirrelly now! Even more than usual! It runs slower and slower. It crashed and I had to get someone to make it work again. Now I can hardly play any music at all on it.
Yes, ask the P.r. person. They'll certainly tell you the unadorned truth and make your life easier.
Don't be mean, now. Don't say you're doing a story. You'll get taken off the digital promo list. You'll be deemed not cost effective and sub-worthless. Ow-ow-ow-ow-ow!
I want to know where the youtube post of "Haji Girl" is.
― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Thursday, 15 June 2006 21:45 (eighteen years ago) link
truly odd
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 15 June 2006 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 15 June 2006 22:27 (eighteen years ago) link
I've been listening a lot to Toby's "Pull My Chain" as recommended upthread and I like it a lot, which is only really strange because each successive song seems to be am essay in the kind of thing I don't relly like. But I can persuade myself that the strength of the material pulls it through. I should probably stop worrying about it really and get on with enjoying it.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 15 June 2006 22:54 (eighteen years ago) link
I thought Kelefa did a good job on Blaine and Julie, but don't know about "Someone Is Me" as "fogeyish." I guess I don't get "exurbia" exactly, either, but more "lower middle classville" or something, which might be more or less the same thing in the Pacific Northwest where Laren's from? And of course I find the bit about folks looking askance at BL as he prays in a diner a bit perplexing, like Blaine's gonna strike a big blow for acceptance of Christianity in exurbia? Which for me really locates Blaine in some other place than the traditional country-audience area--like the Pacific Northwest, where I'm sure there are far more agnostics and "freethinkers" than here in Tennessee or Indiana or wherever. Or am I offbase here, can we talk about it...?
I cannot bring myself to listen to Julie Roberts right now...but I do kinda like this Hacienda Bros. record, "What's Wrong with Right," where they cover "Cry Like a Baby" and the Intruders' (?) "Cowboys to Girls." not much of a singer, but a good groove.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 15 June 2006 23:32 (eighteen years ago) link
That's for sure. They even have mercy on the dial-up connection. Perhaps they know where their audience is and wish to optimize opportunities.
Anyway, that distro plan would automatically bite it on a dial-up. Hey, digital rights management and I don't see why, a year from now, they just ask ya for your credit card so they can charge you a nominal record-keeping fee for the privilege.
Now kids on their schools broadband or mom and pop's broadband, that's cool. Do the job from the Internet caff. You'll have all the broadband you need and just pay the caff's timeshare and you can download that promo copy and listen to it in the shop. Hey, I'm at the Internet caff right now maxing to the Witchfinder General live in '83 recording.
Let's just contact the p.r. ladies and get this all straightened out.But it was such a jolly e-mail. "Hello to all, Universal Music is proud to announce" and you will get a "welcome." Roll out the welcome mat!
oddly, have no qualms about snailmailing promo CDs
No doubt because they're not part of a set of corporate "achievements" someone wants to be able to put in a memo at the end of the year.
(1) To fight leaks and cut costs, maximized use of technology by moving all promotional distribution to copy-protected downloads on the Internet.
Truly odd, this is a piece of malice, with a sort of silence of the lambs vibe.
― George Smith (Urnst Kouch), Friday, 16 June 2006 01:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Friday, 16 June 2006 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link
wondering too how much of the intended audience gets the reference to cask of amontillado - there's been several pop culture nods to it in the past (the simpons comes to mind), so maybe it's become such a part of the lexicon that the source doesn't matter anymore.
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Friday, 16 June 2006 03:04 (eighteen years ago) link
i think that toby is going from strength to strength, though i like the early work, he has grown in sophistcation and delivery
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 16 June 2006 03:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Friday, 16 June 2006 16:19 (eighteen years ago) link
Now, if they were honest, they would be telling you that they have instituted this program in an effort to staunch leaks. Weeding out the sub-optimal and non-cost-effective is a side benefit. Cutting costs is probably optional, because the company had to pay some other firm to develop their software rights management Hitlerware.
The movie industry tried this a year or so ago, with something that the newspaper movie journalist would install as hardware in his home, attached to TV. In other words, a special player, and then the encrypted movie disc would be furnished, and a special code would have to be input. And it flopped. Movie critics, who are higher on the totem pole than musicjournos, voted it down with their feet by not cooperating.
For the benefit of milchtoasts who will go along with the plan, herethis link, again, reviewing what an entertainment company will install on your computer for the privilege of playing their music:
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0547,smith,70217,22.html
Now, just multiply that by two or three times over the course of the year if you have to download different pieces of Hitlerware from other record companies. Why, they'll battle and get mixed up. And you'll be sitting at your machine wondering why it's so sl-o-o-wand the CD tray keeps popping in and out or your computer says you no longer have a CD player, or Windows Media Player, says file not found, or incompatible coding, or something else impenetrable.
― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Friday, 16 June 2006 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Friday, 16 June 2006 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link
anyway, their writing is all I ever aspire to, as this Editor's Note on p. 3, headlined "Toby You Are Cool, But Your Latest Video Is Not."
"I'm a big Toby Keith fan and consider myself miles removed from being in the 'Fem Nazi' group and love video's (sic) that are sexy and show gals partying in bikinis, hot pants and sexy bras." (OK, I'm halfway with him so far...) "The members of the latter group (sexy bras? naw, Fem Nazis) consider these songs and videos abusive and degrading to women, and I'm the first to say 'Hey, you need to get a life. Sex is fun and part of every western culture in the world.' (like the emphasis on western culture, man knows on what side his pita bread is olive-oiled) However the physical abuse of women is a sensitive and controversial topic. We had seen the topic in Garth Brook's (sic) video 'Thunder Rolls' and The Dixie Chicks' 'Earl Has to Die' and now in Toby Keith's latest video 'A Little Too Late' directed by Michael Salomon. Someone in A&R forget (sic) to tell Toby the former two had a basic anti-abuse message and not a pro-abuse message. Tying up a woman in a basement, threatening to hit her with a shovel, having a wooden coffin to bury her, and building a cement wall to prevent her from escaping are beyond fun. (I'll say!) The only thing I liked about the video is at the end is Toby's plea after he realizes that he has trapped himself in the basement with the brick wall he built and pleads with his girlfriend to help him. The fun part of this vide (yeah, sic, sic) comes a 'little too late.' The message of this video is "Physical Violence Against Women Is Cool', which is NOT COOL....Toby you are too good of an artist to put your name on this video."
This is the real country-music writing. I read this magazine every month, even when it is "beyond fun."
And check out this prose from "Musicians Spotlight" on "Tab Laven" by JB Bruck:"He plays guitar for Art Garfunkel...he's been on the Tonight Show hangin' with Johnny, Doc & Ed...he's been Harry Connick Jr.'s merchandise manager...calls 'The Long & Winding Road' his favorite song & may have a little astronaut in his blood...meet the incredibly talented Tab Laven..."
But shit, now I ain't making fun of Tabatt Laven, birthplace Minneapolis; he's hung with Doc & Ed, and for real, he's also played in Art's road band with the likes of Steve Gadd, and has six women walled up in his East Nashville basement as I type this! Beyond Fun!!
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 16 June 2006 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link
"I used to love herBut I had to kill herI used to love her, Mm, yeahBut I had to kill herI had to put her six feet underAnd I can still hear her complain."
You think he'll cover "One In a Million" next?
― xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 16 June 2006 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 17 June 2006 00:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Saturday, 17 June 2006 01:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 17 June 2006 10:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 17 June 2006 11:04 (eighteen years ago) link
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― don (dow), Sunday, 18 June 2006 02:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 18 June 2006 07:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 18 June 2006 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link
ALBUMSvictory brothers/ leanne kingwell? /huck johns? /carter falco/korpiklaani?? PROB TOO WAY METAL BUT IT HAS LOTS OF FOLK POLKAS FROM THE OOMPAH FOREST ON IT /dale watson /toby keith/redhill EP (PROB TOO OLD)/carrie underwood/blaine larsen/dixie chicks/penny dale/ jamey johnson /shooter jennings /riverside PROB TOO OLD/shannon brown /lucas mccain/hank davison band? /irma thomas/oddysey band /dahlia Wakefield PROB TOO OLD/ uncle billy's smokehouse/rhonda towns /red swan? /shawn camp / southwind
SINGLEScarrie underwood = before he cheats /(shooter jennings - hair of the dog)NOT A SINGLE/penny dale - gypsy cowgirl (DO MYSPACE DOWNLOADS COUNT AS SINGLES?)/samantha joe - time for summer EP TRACK/ huck johns - oh yeah (ONE OF HIS LESS COUNTRY TRACKS, SO PROBABLY NOT)/ redhill - all night long (2004 EP TRACK, TOO OLD?) /redhill - rooftop (2004 EP TRACK, TOO OLD?) /b-star "bootleg dreams" EP TRACK/ hot apple pie - easy does it/ (shooter jennings - little white lines)NOT A SINGLE/chris cagle - wal-mart parking lot/ kt tunstall - black horse (200, PROB NOT COUNTRY ENOUGH)/dierks bentley - settle for a slowdown
2006 country reissues james talley - got no bread, no milk, no money, but we sure got a lot of love: 30th anniversary edition / lazy farmer /classic country: sweet country ballads /the duhks - the duhks fonotone sampler MAYBE NOT OLD ENOUGH FOR NASHVILLE SCENE BALLOT ASSUMING THERE WILL BE SUCH A THING THIS YEAR
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 19 June 2006 15:57 (eighteen years ago) link
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― don (dow), Monday, 19 June 2006 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link
I talked to Larsen about that first record before I wrote that Scene piece, Chuck, and he told me that except for one song, which one I'd have to consult notes I don't have in front of me at the moment, that whole first album is demos. It could be that Merle's contribution (Larsen told me they've never met; it was added later, I guess) is the song that wasn't a demo? And everything I've read about that first record backs up that it was composed of demos; and if you listen, you hear that the sound quality, while perfectly fine, isn't quite what they get on 16th Ave. S. Apparently Rory Feek and Tim Johnson and Larsen made the record on their own and then, when they self-released it and they had a hit with "In My High School," I believe it was, out in Seattle, then that started the ball rolling to get with BNA--Giantslayer, whose offices you can see driving down Music Row, is basically Feek/Larsen/Johnson, set up to make records for Blaine. So I think I was accurate there. I also said in the lead of that Scene piece that he "writes many of his own songs"--to have said "co-writes many of his own songs" struck me as stylistically inelegant (Beyond Fun!!) and anyway, that a young guy like that had *any* thing to do with writing his own material for a major-label country record struck me as pretty amazing. He also told me when I talked to him that one of those "Off to" songs was just him overdubbing himself, in his garage!
I'll go back and consult my notes--I can't remember at this point which of those "Off to Join" songs was added later; and for that matter, I've never seen the original, self-released version of that one, either.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 19 June 2006 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link
and this raises a real interesting point about how things are done in Nashville. I did a thing on Mark Nevers at the same time I was working on Larsen's, and Nevers (who cut his teeth engineering at The Castle in Franklin, Tenn., one of the big ol' dinosaur recording studios, where Alan Jackson, Jones, et al ad infinitum, recorded) who's not exactly a shrinking violet in his opinions, went on about how the immaculate, or nearly so, demos that artists bring to the "real" recording session, are the blueprint for the finished product and thus preclude any deviation or looseness. In other words, the demos are basically almost as good as what you hear on the radio, and this seems to be the case with Larsen--they were done here but probably weren't done in a totally top-flight tracking room. One man's demo is another man's super-audio...anyway, below is the story, from something BNA sent me. Larsen throughout my talk with him referred to the songs that ended up on "Off to Join" as "demos." I probably should've quoted him directly!
the 18-year old Larsen recorded and was set to release his debut album, "In My High School" on his producer's own independent label "Giantslayer Records." When a Seattle-based BMG distribution employee emailed the label head of RLG Nashville, Joe Galante, Galante liked what he heard and signed Blaine to the label. But instead of recording an "all new" album as is usually done, BNA asked them to record one more track and also added Merle Haggard to one song. They changed the artwork and title.
The new song is one which was previously recorded by Jerry Kilgore, "That's All I've Got To Say About That"
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 19 June 2006 22:58 (eighteen years ago) link
Don, you're right about the Nasvhille Scene poll literal release date rule; technically, Carrie Underwood's not qualified for my list either, I guess. Doesn't necessarily mean I won't (or wouldn't) vote for her; literal release date rules are dumb! That said, I still think I'd have a hard time voting for an eight-year-old album I didn't hear until this year as a "reissue" if it was never actually reissued. (But that's my own self-limiting rule, not yours o'course.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 19 June 2006 23:13 (eighteen years ago) link
(or unintelligibly, as the case may be.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 19 June 2006 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm just real interested in *how* things are done here--and I am lucky to have visited Nevers' little house off 8th Ave. S. and seen the stuff he uses. And on the new PF Sloan record recorded here at Jon Tiven's, you can hear how what seems to be not-great equipment hobbles that record. As Keso pointed out to me, you can rent the world's greatest, hot-rodded mics here in N-ville, so if you have even a decent budget there's kinda no excuse for things to sound less than great. Not that I totally believe in all that pristine stuff, but I do appreciate it. No matter what anyone might say about the actual music or songs on a typical big-labe N-ville record, they mostly sound great, altho Nevers maintains that they've become more compressed than necessary, more pinched-sounding, as labels became somewhat less singles-driven (therefore, they want everything to be potentially a single, and master/mix/compress everything to fit into radio bandwidths far more than they used to).
It really hasn't been a great year for big-label country so far, has it? I forget, did Carrie's record come out late last year? What about Allison Moorer's record? No Depression gave it a good review, ditto Chris Neal in the Scene; I frankly haven't had the heart to listen to it, since I disliked her last depressive Stones/Aerosmith ripoff so much. And she's married to Steve Earle? How is that, for god's sake? And I tried to like Ralph Stanley's new collection of Carter Family songs, but I just can't get into it at all.
So far, Jessi Colter's record might be my fave, followed by Jamey Johnson's debut, followed by Blaine L.
And Talley's reissue, that's amazing.
I don't know right now if there's been any thought put into the Scene's country poll. I guess I could find out. I am supposed to go have a beer with Tracy Moore the new Scene music editor at some point soon, and maybe I'll ask her then.
I do know that the best *record* MADE in Nashville I have heard so far this year is Lone Official's "Tuckassee Take." A Nevers production. And OK, I am a well-known sucker for that sound of Television-style guitars and Pavement semi-skronk, and this record definitely plays off those conventions, but I swear it's an impossibly elegant record, with gorgeous pedal steel that's used intelligently and organically, and thematically, it's about as southern-fried as you can get--the leader Matt Button hails from Looieville Ky. and is obsessed with horseracing, betting, and feeling bereft in the Big City of Nashville, and I think he's an amazing, droll lyricist, and the record sounds amazing. I mean, most Nashville pop bands are so lame--there's a crop of them right now that everyone's raving about, like Lylas, the Pink Spiders, the Clutters, and many more, and try as I might they all sound like the Zombies deballed. No meaningful eccentricity, all toeing the indie partyline, where, to my ears, Lone Offical sound genuinely nuts, genuinely obsessed...and you know me, I often think Nashville lacks true obsession when it comes to pop music, real mania. (We're back now to the overly apollonian demo-thing.)
But I stray from country, and now back to giving Ronnie's CD one last spin before I do my final draft.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link
Singles:"Life Ain't Always Beautiful," Gary Allan"Are You Sincere," Bobby Bare"Settle for a Slowdown," Dierks Bentley"Believe," Brooks & Dunn"Living In Fast Forward," Kenny Chesney"Can't Let Go," Anthony Hamilton*"Bring It On Home," Little Big Town"I Still Miss Someone," Martina McBride with Dolly Parton"When the Stars Go Blue," Tim McGraw"The Seashores of Old Mexico," George Strait"Your Man," Josh Turner"Don't Forget to Remember Me," Carrie Underwood
*Haven't decided if I'm actually gonna include this - I mean, to me he's pretty gutbucket soul, which says/signifies country to me. Anyone else? I mean, I know his last album got some Scene votes...
Albums:Taking the Long Way, Dixie Chicks Brokeback Mountain, Soundtrack**Precious Memories, Alan JacksonThe Road to Here, Little Big Town Greatest Hits, Volume 2, Tim McGraw*** Your Man, Josh TurnerStand Still Look Pretty, the WreckersLiving with War, Neil Young**
**Technically December '05, I think. Voting for it anyway. If there's a poll, that is.***Technically this isn't a reissue? That's how I'd classify it, but...****Again, not sure if I'd call this country, but it's kinda got that feel, at least in spots.
Reissues:16 Biggest Hits, Johnny Cash and June Carter Cash (That's all so far, though the Big Bill Broonzy box thing might make it on.)
Anyone know how best to get on promo lists, particularly from companies that still send out little shiny metal discs via the mail?
― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link
Today's mail looks promising, though, from a country perspective, and I'm guessing may well effect my year-end reissues ballot:
Tom T Hall *The Definitive Collection* (Hip-O) (Lots of overlap from *The Essential Tom T Hall,* it looks like, but quite a few tracks differ, and that was on vinyl and this one's a CD so there you go)
Ronnie Milsap *My Life* (see below)
Povertyneck Hillbillies *Povertyneck Hillbillies* (on Rust Records out of Ohio; their first "national" album, supposedly, though most if not all of the songs if not recordings look like they're repeated from the locally released Pittsburgh album *Don't Look Back* I mentioned up above, which I swear was in no way a demo to my ears.)
Johnny Rodriguez *20th Century Masters: The Millenium Collection* (this is the one I'm most excited about! I've always wondered about him, and never heard enough to have an opinion. We'll see. Oddly, he appears to have the same haircut as Ronnie Milsap on HIS CD cover.) (I'm excited about the Milsap, too. Edd, I'm just curious: Any idea what Milsap's *nationality* is? These photos are making me curious.)
The 2006 (mostly) country reissue I've still yet to get to the bottom of (thanks to it having two discs and 46 songs) is the Yazoo *The Stuff That Dreams Are Made Of* comp I mention way upthread somewhere. That could wind up on my list, if I ever decide one way or another whether it's got enough songs I need to keep on my shelf.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link
And yeah, that's the new Milsap. Sounds good so far!
And Thomas, Matt Cibula talks about Anthony Hamilton in re: country upthead. And Little Big Town's album is technically old, from last fall; I voted for it last year, though I wish I'd rated it higher. (And Edd, yeah, Carrie Underwear came out around Thanksgiving I think. The problem with these dumb literal release date rules in critics' polls is that late-year releases tend to get screwed, especially when they're the sort of pop-oriented albums which don't really make their greatness known until they break a couple hit singles. Which is why Pazz&Jop stopped using the rule back in 1979.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 17:47 (eighteen years ago) link
>Also slowly exploring the two-disc, R Crumb-artworked new Yazoo comp *The Stuff Dreams are Made Of: The Dead Sea Scrolls of Record Collecting!: Super Rarities and Unisseued Gems of the 1920s and 1930s.* Quite a hodgepodge, united as the title suggests not by genre but merely by how hard the records are to find, never a good sign, but I'm liking pretty much all of it regardless and loving lots of it, including tracks by Dock Boggs, Andrew & Jim Baxter, Ollis Martinn, the Three Stripped Gears, and especially Wilmer Watts and the Lonely Eagles. Those are all on disc 1; haven't touched disc 2 yet. <
― xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 18:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Tuesday, 20 June 2006 23:54 (eighteen years ago) link
his "Day in the Life of America" is pretty great on the new 'un; sort of an answer record to Lee Dorsey's great "God Must Have Blessed America" from his last LP, "Night People" (which has been reissued on CD, and highly recommended to those who're like me and can't get enough Allen Toussaint). (and musing on Lee and Allen and country music the other day over a few beers with friends, we decided that Lee Dorsey could've easily applied his liquid voice to country music! there's nothing on the face of the earth that makes me happier than hearing Lee Dorsey sing.)
and good point about Carrie U. and end-of-year stuff. One record I forgot to mention that I really like is Shawn Camp's "Fireball." Excellent piece on him in the new No Depression--I had no idea of the breadth of his talent and accomplishments. Goes hunting with John Anderson, has songs covered by Blake Shelton, hung out with and wrote songs with Roger Miller's son, plays a mean mandolin and guitar, was a respected sideman, and got his second album axed by his label because it didn't sound like John Michael Montgomery! G. Himes did a piece on Shawn for the Scene and I originally thought Himes had really overstated his case; I still think he overstated it a little bit, but that's a really fine record, sorta the modern Billy Swan I guess.
Finally, heard from Yuval Taylor, who's writing a book on the '70s and is somehow making a connection between Big Star's Radio City, Gary Stewart's Your Place or Mine and John Prine's Common Sense. I had made Yuval a burn of that great Stoney Edwards LP, "Mississippi You're on My Mind," and he declared, "Man, that is the greatest country record of the '70s!" It's so nice to have friends who are such enthusiasts.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 04:28 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGsl0IXPZGI&search=dr%20hook%20cover%20rolling%20stone
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 06:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 21 June 2006 10:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 22 June 2006 04:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 22 June 2006 04:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 22 June 2006 07:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Thursday, 22 June 2006 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link
New No Depression showed up today. Just started Edd's long feature on Frank Black. Also long pieces on Candi Staton, Irma Thomas, Elvis and Allen, and Los Lonely Boys.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link
New Ronnie Milsap album is great, for his singing if for nothing else. I'm astounded. Has he always been this good? My favorite cut is "Somehwere Dry," but at least four other cuts ("It's All Coming Back to Me Now," "My Life," "Time Keeps Slipping Away," "Local Girls") are on the level of "A Day in the Life Of America," which Edd rightly raved about up above. Most of the others aren't bad; only one I can't stand is the closer, "Accept My Love" (= "except my love," yuck), which my CD changer naturally kept graviting toward. One of these days I'll get more specific songwise; right now, I'd say it's got a shot at my top ten on basis of listenability alone. And as far as ease of r&b soul emoting goes, I'd say Ronnie's right up there with T. Graham Brown, at least judging from this album.
Nowhere near as good (which might say something about how great the Milsap album is): Johnny Rodriguez's new hits CD, which mostly just passes right by me innofensively; not much to like, not much to dislike. The one great cut is "Ridin My Thumb to Mexico," which has only the slightest hint of Mexico (mere seconds of mariachi-like guitar) in its music; there's no Tex-Mex anywhere else (so much for Freddie Fender comparisons), though in "Love Put a Song in My Heart," where said stealer of goats comes closest to Christgau's Englebert Humperdink comparison in his '70s book, he does sing a line or two in Spanish. I also like the Mann/Weill penned "We're Over," and also "(Just Get Up And) Close the Door," and it's hard for me to dislike any version of the Eagles' "Desprado," I guess. Beyond that, shrug. Most of these were apparently # 1 c&w singles, bizarrely. Someday maybe somebody will explain how that happened.
The Tom T Hall best-of is a weird selection, schlockier and way less eccentric (since there's way more later stuff, and only one track from *In Search of a Song* for instance) than *The Essential Tom T Hall.* Only a couple of the cuts ("I Care," "You Show Me Your Heart I'll Show You Mine") make me cringe, though, and most of the later stuff would be pretty special coming from most anybody else. So, a pretty good intro for people who don't know him, and still pretty informative for me. A keeper. But not the one I'll usually put on.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 22 June 2006 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link
i dont hate mcbride usually, i dont like her, and i often find her middle class melodramatics either patronising, silly, or batshit insane (and only independce day worked), and people keep telling me that im wrong--and you know what, techincal singing doesnt mean shit to me, and shes too precise in her covers for the album to be interesting
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 22 June 2006 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 22 June 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 22 June 2006 23:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Friday, 23 June 2006 03:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 23 June 2006 06:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 23 June 2006 12:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link
I have never even *listened* to Jerry Jeff. But I'll ask anyway, even tho I am no fuckin' help: I'm interviewing Guy Clark next week, doing a thing on him for a brand-new outlet I'm beginning a Relationship with. What about 'im, anyone? I got about half-a-dozen of his records from various places, including the new one on Dualtone, and of course I got "Old #1" amongst them--so, are those 2 RCA records his best? I got some listening to do over the weekend!
Finally, Roy's obit of Grant McLennan might be the single best thing I have ever read on the Go-Betweens. "They sound rootless, nearly immune to the pleasures of R&B, soul and country." Beautiful. I have to say, I get sorta lumpen throat when I hear "Darlinghurst Nights" these days, because I'm sorta living with memories and death a bit too closely right now. Great tune. And Barry Mazor on Shawn Camp is just superb, too, as I pointed out above, I think.
Lone Official at Springwater last night here in Nville were just amazing. Not country, not even rock and roll, jazzy in that post-skronk way but just fucking tensile and intelligent, and above all heartfelt, even visionary. Whatever obsessions are fueling their leader, Matt Button, keep at it; and their new package of 3 45s he graciously gave me at the show is just amazing, too--graphically and musically briliant, suggesting: some kind of new post-Southern southern mythopoeia, Robert E. Lee ain't dead at all and staggers drunkenly thru a subdivision that sits on the Battle of Nashville site and makes a collect call to bet on the Preakness, and when he loses his money shoots himself outside the Ryman Auditorium. Again: I think their "Tuckassee Take" is some kind of brilliant record, definitely on my top ten of the year at this moment.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 23 June 2006 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Friday, 23 June 2006 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 24 June 2006 04:36 (eighteen years ago) link
I got that LO record from Mark Nevers; it's apparently only out as a UK Honest Jons import, altho I think Astralwerks is planning a release sometime later this year. I'll see about burning you a copy, Roy; I have no idea how to get a promo from Honest Jons, and I guess I need to find out in Astralwerks has any they can send.
Guy Clark: yeah, I think it's a bit pinched, sonically, and "Desperadoes" does kinda strike me as clunky. I mean I have to confess, that whole Austin myth, I've never bought it, and I just don't know about any song with "Desperadoes" in it. But he's good, and I think I get why so many love him, and the Austin thing. I hope he's not drinking bourbon when I talk to him (if he is, he'd better go ahead and offer me some!), the interview's supposed to happen at noon so who knows.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 24 June 2006 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Saturday, 24 June 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 24 June 2006 18:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Saturday, 24 June 2006 20:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 25 June 2006 05:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 25 June 2006 07:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Not on their records, you shouldn't. (Live, I've been told otherwise. But the idea that she's a "soul singer" or "Tina Turner" or whatever people call her these days is totally wishful thinking.) (And are people still comparing her band to the MC5? Jeez...)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 25 June 2006 08:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 25 June 2006 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link
Either way, glad you had fun at her show! I should see her sometime.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 25 June 2006 14:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 25 June 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Monday, 26 June 2006 18:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 26 June 2006 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 26 June 2006 20:39 (eighteen years ago) link
also anne powers is a genius:http://www.calendarlive.com/music/cl-et-kenny19jun19,0,4820682.story?coll=cl-nav-music
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 10:29 (eighteen years ago) link
On a soul-country thing, (which I know we were for a little while a while back) while in the States I picked up an LP by Diana Trask called "Miss Country Soul", produced by Buddy Killen in 1969, as far as I can tell featuring largely Joe Tex-related material, sleevenotes by Joe himself. It's about as convincing as Joe's "Stone Soul Country", i.e. not completely but has some fascinating bits and some brilliant bits. Diana sings fairly straight country 1969 style (i.e. a mixture of pretty much every singing style available to humanity). She tends to fall down with the uptempo numers: SYSLJFM is a worse version even that the Q-Tips', and that's saying something.
Seeing George Jones play live to a mostly-pensionable Lancaster, PA audience was an experience, I can tell you.
― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link
Tim, you're right that that's a real good Kenny Chesney article by Ann Powers (though "Jump" is hardly Van Halen at their most metal!)
All this talk (much of it by me) of soul-country obviously makes me feel very stupid for getting rid of the Charlie Rich albums I used to own; he's clearly the father of this stuff if anybody is (though late '60s Memphis Elvis clearly figures, and I bet Glen Campbell, too.) Also, what about Joe South? I need to research him one of these days. And how good was O.C. Smith' non-green-apples stuff??
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 16:46 (eighteen years ago) link
New video still doesn't seem to be up on youtube (country youtubers are slow! or maybe just busy in the summer), but I did enjoy this description by "jerryleekersey" of the video for "He Ain't Worth Missing" (which I don't recall ever hearing/seeing before, myself):
"man, this chick in this video is HOT! i mean HOTTT! video is from toby's early days, video is about this girl sitting at the bar with her ex in the same bar and she keeps looking at her ex with his new girlfriend, while toby is just hoping to get sloppy seconds from her. video is pretty good, what would have made this video great was them two girl cats fight and toby break it up and get both of them chicks later. Be sure to check out my other videos."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Mp4zFo7PI&search=toby%20keith
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 21:34 (eighteen years ago) link
"loverboy-this could be the night04:12 i absolutely love this song!, cant get better than this one. i wished the radio station played tunes like this again. things i miss are stone washed 550 strait leg levis, velcro wallets, izod, dirt-shirts and most of all i miss my mullet!"
"rosanne cash-i dont know why you dont want me03:21 good video, damn shes a cutie! great song, great on the eyes as well. love that spike hairdo. rare video here/ Be sure to check out my other videos.If you'd like a cd of my RARE VIDEOS for FREE you pay the shipping of the cd, let me know."
"quarterflash-take me to heart03:32 its 4 in the morning and i am posting videos for all to see. i hope you enjoy this one, i noticed it wasnt on here, so here it is! enjoy. Be sure to check out my other videos. If you'd like a cd of my RARE VIDEOS for FREE you pay the shipping of the cd, let me know."
"lita ford-lisa04:15 she was a babe in the day!"
"heart-stranded04:00 This is off the brigade album. great video and song. Nancy's voice on this one equally matches Ann's. I think I actually like this song above all heart songs. NOTES: drummer looks like he's bored out of his mind. also nancy gives thumbs up at the end as if to say hey i dig that you bought this album, then she points as if to say hey security, theres the guy who is currently "stalking" me. cause i left him STRANDED! Be sure to check out my other videos. If you'd like a cd of my RARE VIDEOS for FREE you pay the shipping of the cd, let me know."
"air supply-making love out of nothing at all05:03 soap opera acting at its best. i dig this song though. listening to air supply is like riding a moped, fun to ride just dont let your buddies catch you! girls melt when you play air supply, pour her some iced cold coke a cola with secret hint of crown royal. boom your the man! thank you air supply! blame your 1st kid on "slipping a mickie""
"julian lennon-valotte04:16 great song and video, this is one of those songs that you can sit on park bench and watch birds poop on your lunch basket and not care. relax and enjoy this great video."
"richard marx-dont mean nothing04:26 video is great, cynthia rhodes is one hot babe in this video, richard got the hit, got the girl, he got the money, dang! just goes to show you the mullet wasn't that bad! it worked for him, it still works for gloverboy, i say if you can grow it, go for it, you may reap the riches"
"huey lewis and the news-if this is it04:28 recently saw huey and band, great show in memphis in may. gloverboy and i and our ladies got a little wet from rain, but IT WAS WORTH IT! i owe huey a christmas card, his show got me some from the ole'lady later that night. thanks huey! Be sure to check out my other videos. If you'd like a cd of my RARE VIDEOS for FREE you pay the shipping of the cd, let me know."
"cliff richard-we dont talk anymore03:58 i remember hearing this song on the radio in 1981 and thought it was cool. its still cool! great all around. I used to have a shirt like that one he's wearing. I never danced like that though. but who cares, what i remember about those days is if you didnt have a jacket with the sleeves that zipped on and off you werent cool. i didnt become cool until last year when i "FINALLY" got that jacket. LOL. Be sure to check out my other videos. If you'd like a cd of my RARE VIDEOS for FREE you pay the shipping of the cd, let me know."
okay, I will stop now, I guess.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 28 June 2006 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link
rick springfield-human touch04:31 video reminds me of a prefab buck rogers except rick and some of nasa's best jumpsuit beauties break out into dance and then captain rick pushed the wrong buttons and they have to go back into shower glasses only to emerge when rick can write another hit song.
rick springfield-rock of life03:49 video i think rick is saying in 1988 i hate my lfe as a married man, he is also saying i miss getting young chicks so i guess i wont cut my hair! great video! pyromaniac director though!
rick springfield-bop till you drop04:54 bop till you drop video is about "the man" deciding if you can do a good job singing than you can stay and work, maybe cleaning java the hut urinal later. great classic! i first saw this video on night flight and friday night videos back in the 80's when all we had was 5 channels on tv. dang im old!
kiss- i was made for loving you03:56 kiss doing disco song. whats the big deal, they didnt sell out then. its a great song, great drum beat. if anything they sold out when they put back on the makeup and had a farewell tour that lasted for 10 yrs, the only thing worst is an ex girlfriend saying im leaving, im leaving, then is still standing in your doorway 15 min later. I love kiss. they are a great band.
martika-toy soldiers04:53 when i first heard the song, i didnt know it was a song about being hooked on drugs.
lou gramm-midnight blue03:41 classic one here, man it was hard to find this one. the person i got this video from was from australia, he said "good tidings mate"!
anita baker-caught up in the rapture01:54 cool video all around, video is kinda short, but great song, anita baker is great, i have always been a fan, nothing better after banging out to quiet riot then play anita for your headache, easy listening!
reo speedwagon-that aint love04:37 great song here, did i mention that all my videos i am posting are rare, well this one is rare like finding your old pair of jimmy conners adidas's in the shed and washing them and wearing them again. gloverboy knows which shoes im talking about "the green mesh ones".
The Outfield-All the love in the world03:40 Finding this video was like finding a $20 dollar bill in an old jacket, and not telling your wife about it! just take the money and buy yourself some taco bell, hell go on a splurge with the $20.00, buy the supreme.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 29 June 2006 02:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 29 June 2006 03:36 (eighteen years ago) link
Don, I might have a Rhino person for you--I'm doing something on their new Wilson Pickett two-disc bestof, and I believe someone sent me a publicist e-mail. I'll jump off here and see if I can find it; and Chuck, I just got the Toby, so I'm gonna see if you off the beam or not (what I've heard so far is pretty darned good, I have to admit, so if it's as good as you say it'll be a pleasant surprise).
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 29 June 2006 13:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 29 June 2006 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Thursday, 29 June 2006 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 29 June 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link
Garry BennettHuman ConditionLongside Records
I am young man, and I have a different set of situations then Gary Bennett. Lets say that off the bat. For me there is no one to marry, few to love, and everything is in flux. This album is a lovely artifact, about marriage, love, stability, and desire. Even in the melancholy edges there is an agreement in the general direction of the world. My lizard brain wants to call it politically suspect family values bullshit, projecting outside anything that exists with in the album.
Ignoring that reactionary tendency, and listening closer: the album's strength is to escape the rhetoric of marriage, an incredibly difficult thing to do in a culture that loathes and worships it equally in either measure. When a coal company uses 16 Tons, and more people shack up then get hitched, any album that is mostly about working class love affairs, is going to get under your skin one way or the other.
Sometimes the skin-popping fear of pair bonding can be assuaged with cheap nostalgia (Toby Keith's song The List comes immediately to mind) or hard irony (the entire of Robbie Fulk's brilliant but problematic album Georgia Hard.) Bennett's work is incredibly banal, that banality works in its favor, it is not about the grind of every day domesticity, nor is it about making the women goddesses, the situations seem real to me.
Authenticity is a bear trap, especially fort this guy. His old band (BR5 49) was all about old country being more emotionally real then anything on the radio. What I assume to be emotionally real here may be a clever rhetorical exercise. There is something too formal about the album and that makes me a bit nervous. The words come to quickly, and there is no ambiguity or start-stop stuttering that one comes to expect from the dumb struck and in love. (Even the solos, that should be used to take over when words fail, show a technical proficiency that appears removed pure feeling; the exception is Pat Henderson's subtle, melancholic accent of mouth organ on the track Heading Home)
Caught in that trap, moving my leg and bleeding out, I listen to the album on repeat for a week, remaining confused. There are lines that are moving, sections that refuse to settle, spots so tender that to poke them causes internal pain. In Steel Ball, he extends clichéd metaphors about love into something more dangerous. This time love being a gamble, he makes himself violently shook up by it "like the steel ball in a roulette wheel/ tumbling tumbling rolling down hill/searching for the number that will give him the thrill." That thrill leaves him broken and broke. My Illusion is a grown up, whiskey soaked; break up song, about how faking it is impossible. The two songs that bookend the album, are about songs that outline the working mans condition here and now, including oblique threats towards physical violence against ones employer.
Its intended for the workingman, but the workingman is buying White Trash With Money or No Shoes, No Shirts No Service. Its an NPR yuppie album, a kind of high toned slumming but sometimes work that ends up like that packs a sucker punch. I wonder if I was 30 something, worked 40-hour weeks at a job I hated, and the only thing that ever made me survive was thinking "maybe things will be getting better some day" then it would be on my top ten list. I feel trapped by it, and not released from it. That's got to count for something.
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 29 June 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link
From the teenpop thread (and I doubt that anyone else here cares nearly as much about this as I do, but "Lucky 4 You" on the first SHeDAISY album was brilliant not only in concept - the three Osborn sisters acting out a woman with multipersonalities who runs taunting and salacious rings around the man who dumped her - but in sound too, new suburban country doing fool-around multiparts as if it were doo-wop; and Hilary Duff's "Come Clean," which Shanks wrote with Kara DioGuardi, is one of those songs like "I Can See Clearly Now" that the second you hear it you think has always existed, the melody seems so right; and the Ashlee Simpson albums that Shanks produced and co-wrote and played on, while fundamentally being mainstream rock, are full of nonstop inventiveness, melodies from lounge to glam, subtle shifts in guitar timbre, etc.):
I'm doing about as poorly with this year's SHeDAISY album as xhuxk is with the Jonas Bros. Where are the hooks, where's the passion, where's the ambition, where's the wordplay? It's got powerful enough playing, the guitars ringing out, strong pop-country voices, but what's there to care about? How did this woman (Kristyn Osborn) ever create "Lucky 4 You"? How did this guy (John Shanks) ever create "Come Clean" and "Undiscovered"? You can't tell from this record.
-- Frank Kogan (edcasua...), June 24th, 2006. (Frank Kogan)
I could definitely use a second opinion on SHeDAISY's Fortuneteller's Melody. I've found a few things to interest me, such as a savvy turnaround in the meaning of the title phrase of "She Gets What I Deserve": "she" is her boyfriend's husband, first time you hear the phrase it means "she gets the man and the family I deserve," the last time it means "she gets the pain and suffering I deserve." (But that's a conventional enough country attitude; no surprise, really.) And "Kickin' In" does kick bright and hard whenever I hear it. But by the end of the track I'm still "so what" with it, as I am with the whole album.
The thing is, with any new Shanks product I have insanely high expectations, but unless he's working with one of the teenies, I also get secret satisfaction from believing its mediocre, since I can then say, "See, without Ashlee and Lindsay and Hilary he can't do it. Their talents are crucial to the enterprise."
By the way, Sheryl Crow is a co-writer on a couple of the SHeDAISY tracks, again with a so-what result.
-- Frank Kogan (edcasua...), June 27th, 2006. (Frank Kogan)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 29 June 2006 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 29 June 2006 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link
He goes over the top on the single, but right about the rest of the album, I think: http://www.livinginstereo.com/
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 29 June 2006 19:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 29 June 2006 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 29 June 2006 20:21 (eighteen years ago) link
vaguely country-leaning (i.e., her cdbaby page lists miranda lambert as one reference point, though hardly the only one) teenpop singer-songwriter music from an asian-american girl (album title: *american girl*) who apparently grew up in oklahoma and the phillipines and is now based in l.a. (i thought hawaii figured in there somewhere too, though i'm not sure how i got the idea -- oh wait, i guess it's the hawaii t-shirt she wears in the CD booklet); frankly, most of the CD isn't hitting me (her voice is smaller than i wish, for one thing), though i'd be curious to hear what the more shemo-tolerant (/vanessa carlton tolerant/michelle branch tolerant) of y'all think. closest thing to a great song seems to be "i'm in the way," about being drawn to bad boys (and it's got a really familiar pop melody i can't place); "2nd street" has the most r&b in it; "405" seems okay too:
http://cdbaby.com/cd/mylin
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=70795638 ---------------------------------------------------------------------Actually, her cdbaby page says "Sheryl Crow and The Wreckers meets Miranda Lambert and Keith Urban," which makes her at least 75 percent pop-country supposedly, but she only sounds maybe 20 percent pop-country if that. I don't think I hear much Miranda, Sheryl, or Keith in her sound. She sounds how I would IMAGINE the Wreckers (who I haven't heard) might, though. Her look is maybe a much softer Pink.
― xhukx (xheddy), Thursday, 29 June 2006 21:37 (eighteen years ago) link
Hacienda Bros. new one, just thought I'd mention it. Country-soul, pretty pro forma, but quite pretty in spots. They do not do badly with "Cowboy to Girls" (Anthony, just think of the gender-fuck time-travel possibilities of this one if someone came along and gayed it up...it'd be the real companion to Keith Anderson's tale of jailed pedlophilia "Clothes Don't Make the Man.")
And they put an accordion in producer Dan Penn's "Cry Like a Baby," which they sound too old to sing. Gaffney and Gonzalez aren't the world's best singers. This would've made a nifty EP--it sounds really good, really warm, and I do quite like about three/four songs, including their nice take on Charlie Rich's "Rebound" and one they wrote themselves that's the title track, and I like their approach to tempo. They're good, but they never quite transcend the notion of soul-with-pedal steel, and they could sound a little more greasy and stoned, I guess, and get into real Sir Dougas territory.
New Guy Clark, "Workbench Songs," isn't bad, either--he writes a real sly one called "Cinco de Mayo in Memphis" and plays the blues on "Walkin' Man." What's interesting about Clark is that he doesn't seem to draw conclusions, and sometimes I think his narratives are uninflected. Hard to pin down what it "means." I actually think his singing has improved since the days of "Texas Cooking" (which is a really fine record). I guess I just wish his music were less received, more interesting, but he's just not interested in that.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 29 June 2006 22:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Friday, 30 June 2006 01:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 30 June 2006 02:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Friday, 30 June 2006 04:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Friday, 30 June 2006 05:00 (eighteen years ago) link
donthanks
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 30 June 2006 07:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 30 June 2006 12:53 (eighteen years ago) link
after just almost a full listen, I'm going to say that Darrell Scott's The Invisible Man is probably my album of the year, it's deep and folky and smart-without-being-too-smart like he gets sometimes and there is no better storyteller in country music today, and the melodies are three kinds of gorgeous. (cue Chuck to tell me 'those melodies are unmelodic and his lyrics are crap', usually seems to happen when I love something like this.) plus he covers a Stuart Adamson song and takes shots at the war (again) and SUV-driving callous assholes and all that, wonders whether God or the devil or true love will care when he dies, oh a great record indeed.
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 30 June 2006 13:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 30 June 2006 13:26 (eighteen years ago) link
Speaking of which, this Eric Taylor (Nanci Griffith's ex-husband) record, The Great Divide, is killing me right now. Mickey Newbury and Lightnin Hopkins and Pall Malls are the sources. It's my old coot album of the year.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 30 June 2006 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Friday, 30 June 2006 15:22 (eighteen years ago) link
i have trent right here, and now am going to put on "surprise." i've always suspected there was some dominatricks being performed in the new south exurban, hot summer, endless night; a vein of rich comedy is right here amongst us. i mean i'd probably be happy if all country music was about wife-swapping or at least serial matrimony among the two-boat, three lawn-mower and two-SUV set (and two votes for republicans, don't forget those two).
and right, don, you gotta read rhino's FAQs, get yo-self a password...
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 30 June 2006 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Friday, 30 June 2006 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkkXpoObF40&search=Fulla
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 1 July 2006 14:03 (eighteen years ago) link
i am also somewhat coming around/giving in to the trent willmon album. i swear he still sounds really staid, in some way (though not nearly as staid as that new guy clark album sounds; i'll never get these guys who have such an aversion to putting, uh, some MUSIC in their music -- too bad, because Guy's songwriting is often good.) anyway, i like "surprise" (though it doesn't strike me as THAT outlandish -- maybe it would've if I hadn't received prior warning though, I dunno) and "so am i" and "sometimes i miss ya" and the blues gloomer "lousiana rain" and probably more. i just wish Trent had more surprise in his SOUND. Or color. Or maybe even leather and whips. There's just something real held-back about him that bugs me.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 1 July 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 1 July 2006 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link
* - and duh, the notation beside the video does indicate it's arabic. also indicates she's a bad singer, though, and as usual with arabic music, i don't really understand why, unless i just like bad arabic singers. video also brings rednex's "cotton eyed joe" to mind.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 1 July 2006 14:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Saturday, 1 July 2006 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Saturday, 1 July 2006 16:28 (eighteen years ago) link
i can't recall where i put the diana trask which edd mailed me last year (it's not alone, tho i just found another edd burn, Two Yanks in Egnland just recently), but it's hard to imagine wanting to listen to anyone else sing joe's songs. perhaps it's in inverse proportion to wanting to hear joe cluelessly sing "ode to billie jo;," the part about billie joe putting a bullfrog down his pants is just so wrong. most days though, i feel like edd does about lee dorsey AND joe tex.
― imbidimts (imbidimts), Sunday, 2 July 2006 14:24 (eighteen years ago) link
* -- listed entirely on the "recent purchases" thread, if you really wanna know.
Anyway, here's a description of the LP; Pickwick was obviously not to be trusted, but that doesn't mean it's not worth $2, duh....
http://www.mmguide.musicmatch.com/album/album.cgi?ALBUMID=1409502&AMGLENGTH=full#review
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 2 July 2006 15:30 (eighteen years ago) link
"feel like going home" is the 2-disc set from sony, and a good overview. it leaves off stuff like "memphis and arkansas bridge," which appears on the "boss man" reissue of the '70 epic LP of the same name. if you gotta get just one rich disc, the koch reissue of "boss man" is the one to get--he does a great version of "nice 'n' easy" and one of his most desolate drinking songs, "i can't even drink it away," his greatest and most truly outré and rockin' story song, "memphis and arkansas bridge," and "i do my swingin'at home," his best stay-at-home-with-the-bottle-baby song.
there's an 2-LP set from '74, "fully realized," that covers his mercury/smash years very, very well--it still floats around out there.
i love his RCA stuff--i love pretty much all of it, and the willie mitchell/hi record he did of hank williams songs is supposed to be great--i don't believe i have ever heard it. if i had to pare it down to the very essentials, i guess i'd go with that "feel like going home" 2-disc set and the koch reissue of "boss man."
i am sure that pickwick LP is worth $2, though.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 2 July 2006 17:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― imbidimts (imbidimts), Sunday, 2 July 2006 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link
have heard his new single, four times in the last two weeks. Once in the c ar back from a family renuion, once when swimming, and twice while eating. When I reviewed the album for Stylus a couple of months ago, I liked it better. Now the time has come for it to be on the radio, there are several reasons why it should be destroyed:
1. The lyrics are really banal. Not only banal, but designed entirely in a lab to be an authentic expression of how the warm months affect the good ol boy in all of us.2. As for the above, it is shameless in its attempt to enter the canon: Perfect song on the radio/Sing along because it’s one we know3. None of the really excellent things about summer (ie drinking, all of the copius amounts of flesh on view) are mentioned.4. Who the hell drinks YooHoo in the middle of July (Alan Jackson, who understands summer hits, knows what to eat from mid June to eary September, in the last great summer song: “Well we fooged up the windows in my old chevy/I was willing but she wasnt ready/So a settled for a burger and a grape sno-cone” ) Listening to Chattahoochee again, reminds me of how pure Chesney is his benders are n Greasy Cheeseburgers as opposed to whiskey, he doesnt really mention beer at all, and any fucking he does is of the wistful lovemaking variety, When Alan Jackson can out dirty you, theres a problem.5. The closest Kenny Chesney has been to a swimming hole is the local municpal swimming pool (the second time ive heard this, was reading Alison Bechdel’s Fun House, and watching all the boys with very little clothes, wandering around the local outdoor pool, nestled in the river valley, with perfect aqua water and phone booths shaped like plastic shells–there was also a girl with the words paradise lost written in florid pink on her brown bikini bottoms; why the swimming hole, when the light reflects on such chlorinated paradises)6. I keep wondering when people will notice how calcuated his work is, but they never do. In this weeks People, there are a dozen or so pictures of hsi summer tour, and it looks like Beatlemania, just as in several of his videos (the concert ones, as opposed to the ones shot on a caribbean beach) begin wiht crowds of hungry women, and Kenny annointing them, like the Pope or the Queen. I know that this is one of the functions of modern celebrity, and post Garth its something that we have expected in Country superstars and it should be deconstructed, and Kenny is so good at riding the wave, that hes not the one to do it but I’m bored.7. Thats the crux of the matter. He is astonishingly popular, and beloved. America laps him up. So there must be something there, aside from his brilliant manipulating of audience expectation, but what is there are simulacrcas of down home pleasures—like Dollywood if Dolly didnt ever write songs about poverty or death.8. Maybe thats the problem, Kenny is country music for the south of metastized suburbs–and there needs to be work like that. Sure Hank wouldnt ahve done it this way, but Hank’s lost highway is found and paved over. The problem is that though we need texts about the suburbs, written by people in the suburbs, describing the joys people find there, Chesney isnt this man.9. Or to put it another way, how can you trust a man who claims to be of the people, when he spends 60 per cent of his time in a yacht somewhere near St Barts.10. So I guess what annoys me the most, here, are silly things that I should have stopped caring out, personae, role, authentic voice, banality, and desire. Things that would have been a virtue on Britney or Rachel Stevens are gratingly plastic in Chesney. If I stopped considering him country and started considering him pop, maybe the previous 9 points would be rendered moot.11. But his single from last summer: Anything But Mine is one of the great singles of country music, a tender and broken examanation of lost innonce, the longing and desire of first bloomings destroyed by time and geographical inconveince.12. The song still annoys me.
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 6 July 2006 13:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 6 July 2006 13:43 (eighteen years ago) link
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― don (dow), Friday, 7 July 2006 05:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 7 July 2006 05:11 (eighteen years ago) link
I've had Trent Willmon's record on as I do other things, and every song has struck me. Good singing, really intelligent songwriting, and sharp words. Except for that one about spending a night "six feet unde the ground" to make you appreciate life. I mean, come on--can we not make it all so dramatic? We can appreciate life without being quite so portentous about it, seems like; and I find this kind of trope really fucking dumb. But other than that, I think this is gonna be one of the best country rekkids of the year.
Back to Guy Clark...
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 7 July 2006 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link
That "Surprise" song really isn't all that shocking because he's not participating in the S&M, more just aw-shucksily smirking at it, which is nothing new. Toby's "Stays in Mexico" seems a much more transgressive song, cos it condones (doesn't it?) the bad behavior of the characters. (Not that "SIM" would seem at all transgressive on a pop station.)
And as for that "Six Feet Under" song, I am sick unto death of songs telling me to live like I was dying. I'll live as selfishly and short-sightedly as I want to, idiot country sages. Every time I hear "Live Like You Were Dying," I wistfully imagine Tim McGraw as Luis Bunuel, dismissing the "crowd of imbeciles who find the song beautiful and poetic when it is fundamentally a desperate and passionate call to murder."
That said, Milsap's "A Day in the Life of America" is a little reductive.
― dr. phil (josh langhoff), Monday, 10 July 2006 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Monday, 10 July 2006 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link
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― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 10 July 2006 23:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 07:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 11 July 2006 12:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 12 July 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link
I was listening to that "Ladies of the Canyon" CD when in NYC - a friend of mine is another contributor - and it sounds terrific.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 13 July 2006 08:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Is that CashHank one still going on? I'm not sure, but it used to be at the Buttermilk Bar in lower Park Slope, so maybe check there, Roy?
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 13 July 2006 12:14 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0545,gottschalk,69776,22.html
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 13 July 2006 12:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 13 July 2006 13:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 13 July 2006 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link
got lotsa catching up to do, as usual; my mother's taken a real turn for the worse, is getting hospice care, and we're not expecting her to live out the month. very bad.
finished writing about Guy Clark. I decided that I did sort of miss what makes him good. I quite like his first record--it's indeed a minor classic--and I am fascinated by the obsessive Chips Moman production, and the way Guy mostly glides thru it, on "Texas Cookin'," which seems a bit overcooked to me, sorta Barefoot Jerry or Little Feat demi-funk-country. not as glaringly wrong for the artist as Chips' work with Gary Stewart, but not right either, exactly. I ended up liking some of "Dublin Blues" quite a bit--the western swing stuff is nice. and I do think he rates pretty highly as a songwriter, in a way, but I guess I still find it boiled down to...what is the point, exactly, of boiling down so much? I found a copy of the Everly Brothers' "Pass the Chicken and Listen" which has the first Clark song cut, '72, "Nickel for the Fiddler." the way the Evs do it, it becomes very abstract, and sort of the dark side of "Bowling Green." what's strange about that song is the way that young and old finally manage to agree on what is country music (it's what's happening in the park, or on the lawn) and the way "everybody's ruined," which I guess means everybody's stoned or drunk. In other words, Clark seems tied to a specific countercultural cozmik-cowboy moment, laconic; so I don't get much sense of expansive life from things like "LA Freeway" but do find his song about growing old on the first record, and yeah, "Desperados Waiting on the Train" (a song so famous now that it never gets mentioned by its correct name!), to be pretty sly, more than meets the eye--ironic, in short.
And when I talked to Guy, he told me a funny anecdote about how Ricky Skaggs, who did his "Heartbroke" and took it to #1 in '82, wouldn't sing "bitch" in that song, "because he couldn't bear the thought of his mama and daddy hearing that word on the radio!"
more on Trent Willmon, I think, is coming--I like that record and want to spend more time with it. And I'm currently trying to figure out if I love or hate Linda Ronstadt's collab w/ Cajun singer Ann Savoy. Genteel?
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 13 July 2006 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link
Elsewhere: I'm liking this Eilen Jewell record, Boundary County, on a sub-divsion of Signature Sounds. Her voice and songs give off a low, soft light, and her blues are more like lullabyes, but I don't mind that. Some might find it a bit polite or minimalist, but those tones and 'tudes have long been a part of country.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 13 July 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 13 July 2006 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 13 July 2006 19:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 13 July 2006 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 13 July 2006 21:47 (eighteen years ago) link
Likewise looking forward to Edd's Guy Clark piece: "LA Freeway" was on the not-so-great country channel on IcelandAir this weekend, and it reminded me how much I like his voice. And sorry to hear the bad news about your mum, Edd.
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 14 July 2006 09:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 14 July 2006 13:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 14 July 2006 16:09 (eighteen years ago) link
(This post was somewhat inspired by the conversation about "Stays In Mexico.")
Related thought: has there been much that one could call psychedelic country coming from country-identified (as opposed to country-rock-or-alt-rock-identified) performers? I mean sonically. I'd think Mexican music could be an entryway.
(Obv. I already know about Big & Rich. Any others?)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 14 July 2006 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link
(But I'll listen to this alb more to see what penetrates.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 14 July 2006 16:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 14 July 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link
My mailbox seems to be experiencing a country drought in recent weeks, though I just got the new Randy Rogers Band CD today; maybe that will help (I liked their/his last one). I talked about the Rammstein LP earlier on the metal and world music threads, and yesterday I just sent in an MTV Urge Informer metal blog on it, emphasizing "Te Quiero Puta!" (my favorite track) in all cases. Right now Sons and Daughters' "Johnny Cash" from the Optimo *Present Psych Out* mix CD (also featuring Chambers Bros, Hawkwind, Skatt Bros, Arthur Russell's Dinosaur) is on; I forget who Sons and Daughters are, but this track somewhat reminds me of the Mekons' country-ish stuff but with a more Kraut-rock drone to it (so yeah, psychedelic, but obviously not what Frank's looking for). My favorite song on the new Shooter album is still "Hair of the Dog." I think I gave "Chatahoochie" a 7.5 or 8 out of 10 in *Radio On* when it first came out, and if I gave it an 8.0, I probably overrated it. (Best thing about it is its surf riff, which I wish surfed more.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 14 July 2006 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link
I believe you, Roy, on Allison's record. I thought her last record was one of the most needlessly doleful things I've ever heard. the tempos, they was for shit. she doesn't seem to have a record-making knack.
and yeah, Shira Small doing Donny Hathaway or whatever, on "Wayfaring Strangers," is one of the best things on that record. I still quite like Caroline Peyton's, and the Priscilla Quinby one about the lure of the sea. Andy Beta caught up with Small in New York. His LA Weekly piece is darn good; between the two of us, we found a lot of the Ladies.
It's been a strange year for country. Last year seemed so various, so diverse, so full of (to my ears) fresh stuff that came from somewhere kinda new. I have yet to hear Shooter's record, and have been so harried trying to even listen to, and write about, what I have to, that I'm still anticipating really attending to Trent Willmon and the Dixie Chix. But apart from the Chix, has this year seemed a bit disconnected somehow, a bit lacking in drama? Or is it just me?
I still think Jamey Johnson and Blaine Larsen have done the most interesting stuff this year--newcomers rule?
and Xhuxk, I sent ya a Charlie Rich burn yesterday.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 14 July 2006 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 14 July 2006 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Friday, 14 July 2006 19:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 14 July 2006 20:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Saturday, 15 July 2006 00:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 15 July 2006 03:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Saturday, 15 July 2006 08:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 15 July 2006 09:24 (eighteen years ago) link
Anthony, I think my favorite line in "Chatahoochie"'s lyrics is when he drops her off early but doesn't go home; are there any other songs (any genre) where that very common occurence actually occurs? (My least favorite line, which Alan sings way more often, is where "it gets hotter than a hootchie-cootchie," which may well be an actual idiom used in real life by some people but makes me cringe every time regardless.) In general: I'd like the song more if Kenny Chesney was singing it. Somehow Kenny strikes me as more likely than Alan to skinnydip and/or strip down to bathing trunks at a fishing hole. (That doesn't actually happen in the song though, does it? But it's probably implied. I think in the video, jet-skiing was somehow involeved. But what do I know, I grew up with a backyard swimming pool, so swimming in mudholes has always made me kind of squeamish.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 15 July 2006 13:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 15 July 2006 13:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 15 July 2006 13:24 (eighteen years ago) link
peter north, in my local paper this morning, talked about Jackson as a concert performer, versus Tim McGraw, and apparently he is unable to seduce stadiums, i dont know what this means, but yeah...
(i also really like burger and a grape snow cone)
someone should email jd and ask him to record this
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 15 July 2006 14:30 (eighteen years ago) link
>the video montage that preceded his performance did mention the word "bohemian" (a word Jimmy Buffett, to whom Chesney's often compared, actually embodies)<
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 15 July 2006 15:00 (eighteen years ago) link
i have no IDEA whether she meant for this to be a provocative statement
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 15 July 2006 15:02 (eighteen years ago) link
I haven't been connecting big to country this year, but I'd assumed that was just me, that I was distracted by other music, not listening to enough radio, got my key supplies cut off in April (Village Voice duplicates arriving courtesy of xhuxk, records sent by obscure cxxntry dudes at the urging of xhuxk, etc.). I still haven't gotten to the Carbon Leaf, Sam Roberts, Cindy Smith, Linda Ronstadt, Kris Kristofferson, and Van Morrison, or the Fahey tribute, and need to hear more than the first few tracks on the (somewhat promising) Bernard Fanning, Ashley Monroe, and Tea Leaf Green and on the (not-so-promising) Shawn Mullins, Grace Potter, Rhonda Vincent, Tom Brosseau, Demented Are Go (and few of those are the core of country music, anyway).
The following I've listened to only once, so any resemblance to actual reactions are a coincidence:
Th' Legendary Shack Shakers - Rousing polka-gypsy-blues-country clatter but too emotionally detached for all the cacophony, though could make my ballot if albs don't come pouring into my PO box.
Yonder Mountain String Band - More entertaining than I'd expect from rustic-decor folk-club country, but still kinda meh. The banjo kicks. It's hard to stop a banjo from kicking.
Julie Roberts - Warm voice, as you know, but this tends towards So-What-Ville.
Ralph Stanley (Carter Family songs) - This reaches me despite the man's elderly throat. Songs can't be beat.
Blazing Country - Sits home around the stodge fires, but I remember (this was a few months ago) finding some of this touching.
Willie Nelson (Cindy Walker songs) - Heard this in extreme background while I was packing; I'd probably listen more for the songs than the singer, at this point.
Parnell and DBTs I've already mentioned, ditto for Shannon Brown, who's a pop babe and a rocker and who could well make my ballot.
Carrie Underwood - Need to borrow this from the library again to see what all the crowing is about. I thought it was nice, but I never swooned.
Ryan Adams - Starts rockabilly but then goes to layered stillness. This will take more listens for me to figure out.
Electric Boogie Dawgz - Don't know if they'd count for country; unreconstructed rock 'n' roll barfucks, but "unreconstructed" misses the point of r'n'r which is supposed to deliver me from days of old. But I actually get a big hooting good time out of this.
Jace Everett - Thought it wasn't bad, but I've subsequently forgotten what it sounds like.
John Rich reissue - Straight-up pop country. Proves he shouldn't do pop country straight.
Country song of the year for me is still noncountry Marit Larsen's "Only a Fool," which has the feel of a nice little throwaway. There's no indication yet that EMI plans to market the album anywhere but Norway, though I can't imagine they won't.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 15 July 2006 15:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 15 July 2006 15:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 15 July 2006 15:28 (eighteen years ago) link
I'll go back and read this: so Ann Powers is calling Jimmy Buffett a boho? He's a species of boho, for sure, dumb shirts and all. A tanned bohemian.
a lotta people love Radney Foster's new one, I think it's kinda like one of those third-level Marshall Crenshaw albums like "Mary Jean and Nine Others."
I miss the stuff that came via Xhuxk, too. Frank, Tea Leaf Green: I did a short preview of them for the Scene, and talked to the lead Tea, the keyboardist. They're way into '70s rock (he told me, "I mean, I can't think of one single bad rock record from 1972!"). They have long intstrumental passages that are jam-band via some circuitous route that includes Genesis and Steve Hackett and "Firth of Fifth," and Spirit and the Band. One song about John Brown, many others about the California landscape, getting back to nature, one really interesting one about being in Mississippi and watching TV somewhere and seeing California wildfires burn and wishing somehow that Mississippi would too--some weird take on southern history and travel and so forth that tells me they could be a good band. I mean, there's too much fucking piano, all those jam-banders take after Chuck Leavell and Bruce Hornsby. And the songs could be sharper. But they're onto something--rarely can I attend to something like this, but I found their instrumental sections actually tryin' to signify something, and it just furthers my opinion that jambands are full of confused white people who almost get the notion of the demi-funk they're attempting. And my Pat Metheny/Bill Frisell theory of Mid-American Pseudo-Homily and Gothic, all those pentatonic demi-jazz notions. Cool jazz and prog rock and whatever the Allman Brothers did, and the fucking Dead--I dunno, I'd just as soon read Art Pepper on jail ettiquette and think dark thoughts about the fate of Kool Jazz.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 15 July 2006 15:38 (eighteen years ago) link
and im not finding alot of country i love this year and most of it is ancient, realtvely speaking (willie, jessi, kris, ralph stanley, the dead johnny cash (with his first no 1 since live from san quinton). there are exceptions, some of the new toby, two songs on the new neko,when the star goes blue, that daddy song i wrote about earlier, not very much else)
thinking of the 70-dead contigent, im shocked at how tender i feel about the work, and how strong it is...
the new video from road hammers is really boring, but listening to the album again, after hearing the song on the radio, i am reminded on how mccoy's voice makes my pussy wet, in a way that almost nothing has for a very long time, and girl on a billboard has a rampant eroticism, which is missing from country i think, but was present last year. (and he is opening for nickelback and playing the stampede on the same week!!)
i havent bought julie roberts, but im tempted to, and still waiting for gene watson and another promo,
what does everyone think of hank williams jr/big and rich's track thats how they do it in dixie? (i think im bored, but not offended, the whole veterans schitck that occured before this one, seems to be an arlington/badonkadonk rip off, the same one two punch gone stale, but am willing to reconsider)(it doesnt bother me as much as Building Bridges, which is just awful)
has anyone heard Yee Haw by Jake Owens cause i havent, but the title intriuges me
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 15 July 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link
And yeah, Anthony, Hacienda Bros. is nice little genre piece, nothing great, but I am a fan of Dan Penn and his production is nice, and I'm nearly always somewhat entertained by that soul-country mix. It's a good record, far as that shit goes. You sending Gary Bennett, Anthony? That was a nice piece above, by the way.
I mean, Buffett's career was far more "bohemian" than Chesney's, I think. Buffett until "Margaritaville" was a pure cult figure--I remember being into Uriah Heep or Yes or whatever in junior high and these hipster kids knowing about Jimmy Buffett. Incipient singer-songwriterdom-in-opposition-to-rock, which didn't respect its elders enuff. Future fans of alt-country. And I think Buffett always preached some kind of eternal party mixed with fairly conventional, LSU-tailgate-party, Auburn-grudge-fuck values. Which makes him a southern bohemian, harbinger of whatever the fuck this exurban, rube-urban landscape is I'm living in. I mean shit, there's a new-age shop up the road in Clarksville and you can get some kind of ziti there, also those Torani flavors in coffee, and crystals for your knob-ache. And their bagels are flown in from Sysco Systems, I wanted to get my mother a bagel back when she was still eating solid food and these New Agers tried to charge me $2.25 each for a plain two-week-old bagel flown in from New Brunswick or Kansas when I can get fresh-made and quite decent in Nashville for about .65 apiece. So that's who I think Chesney is playing for, the people who have decided to get into Crystals and Wicca and Coffee at this joint--I hear 'em play modern country in there sometimes and once I commented and they were really concerned, perhaps I didn't like country?
I like it fine, I wanted to say, but I don't like your overpriced bagels or the whole atmosphere of post-boho in exurbia. And that's what Ann Powers is getting at in her piece, and I suppose she needs to get out of Los Angeles and come down here and go to Texas Hold 'Em Night at Kickers and hang out at the Wal-Mart/White Castle. I recently broke my rule of never going out to eat in Clarksville unless it's a couple of halfway good barbecue places, and went to eat at something Grille where my club sandwich came with a side of vile, yellow, coagulating honey-mustard sauce that developed a kind of scrim as I sat there and which the waitress assumed I wanted.
You notice, I talk a lot about food these days; I'm doing my running thing, and seems like I never am able to sit down and really take my time, and that's how I feel about music too. I'm just now really getting into Julie Roberts--I think it does tend toward bleh, but I quite like the drinking song and the small-town girl song, and goddam if "Sex and the City" doesn't need to get down south--Atlanta would be good, but I'd like to see it in Hattiesburg, Miss., that town needs a boost. Anyway, Bill Friskics-Warren kept telling me that "Men and Mascara" was good, good pop, and it is good pop, very good.
I guess bohemian for Ann Powers isn't a cloistered, dank city thing, she gets that so that's great. But Buffett is a beach bum, and I've never once been tempted to go into his Margaritaville place in New Orleans, I drank a fucking hurricane one of my first trips down there, back when I stayed out in Metarie in some weird hotel and didn't know any better.
Anyway, I find it a provacative and not entirely thought-out way of getting at Buffett, but a nicely enough judged way to get across what she's really getting across, that Chesney is some kind of insanely energetic, jolly, happy celebrity of the kind who's not even *worried* about "bohemian" or "non-bohemian." Like I say, Ann Powers is good, but come on, Ann, welcome to the New New South! "Bohemian" is a funny word to use but people here *don't usually think in those terms*.
Chesney's not anyone I get any kind of bead on *at all*. Is he gay? I dunno.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 15 July 2006 16:31 (eighteen years ago) link
Anyway, I find it a provocative and not entirely thought-out way of getting at Buffett, but a nicely enough judged way to get across what she's really getting across, that Chesney is some kind of insanely energetic, jolly, happy celebrity of the kind who's not even *worried* about "bohemian" or "non-bohemian." Like I say, Ann Powers is good, but come on, Ann, welcome to the New New South! "Bohemian" is a funny word to use but people here *don't usually think in those terms*.
i have sent gary bennett, have you nto gotten it ? :(
kenny chesney is not gay, but i cant read his beads sexually either, there is a peice to be written about the ambiguity of that presentation.
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 15 July 2006 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link
And I like the Haceinda Bros too - -both CDs, but the new one more since there's more covers hence more good songs. But yeah, I'm kind of a sucker for soul-country too. And yeah, album's far from great.
I'm not sure if I still have that Julie Roberts album around. I liked the title track; rest struck me as bleh; maybe I was wrong. (Also, I think I still have an early version of the album, and the track list changed, apparently. Same with Ashley Monroe as I recall.)
And speaking of Bill Friskics-Warren, I've been paging through his and David Cantwell's top 500 country singles book from a few years ago *Heartaches By Number* a lot while in the bathroom the past couple weeks, and I like it a lot; I'm impressed by their openness to pop-country (they even have Juice Newton in there), and the wide-openness of their genre-defining actually reminds me of *Stairway to Hell* in some ways. They tend to underrate *recent* pop-country, for the most part, but that's okay; they still like some of it. And I'm starting to think the *Urban Cowboy* disco-crossover era (though I have no idea how much country actually tried cross over in that direction) was a lot more interesting than they let on. And they keep mentioning Dave & Sugar as an example of lame crossover stars from that time, which is funny, because I don't think I'd ever even heard of Dave & Sugar til I opened their book. And they proabably fall back on "social consciousness" justifications too often. An enlightening read, nonetheless. (Actually, what it REALLY reminds me of Dave Marsh's Top 1001-or-however-many singles of all time book *Heart of Rock and Soul*, which I wish I still owned a copy of.)
And Edd and Frank, I guess I *could* still be emailing unknown bands to have 'em send you their CDs, but it takes time, and it's a little weird since I'm not actually editing a section where somebody else might write about the bands anymore. Also, I get *way* fewer duplicates to pass on these days, and I can't rely on a newspaper to pay the postage anymore, though it's possible I'll mail Frank my advance CD-R of Towers of London anyway. (And Frank, by the way, thanks for the mix CD, which will get played on my roadtrip upstate starting tomorrow muchly I'm sure, and Edd, thanks in advance for the Charlie Rich burning.) Anyway, what I suggest y'all start doing more is emailing the bands (at least the cdbaby and myspace bands) yourownself. And definitely start with the Victory Brothers, whose album is so far (1) my country album of the year (2) my overall album of the year (3) my Big N Rich album of the year and (4) my Texas Hold 'Em album of the year even though I haven't played poker since high school, and should be heard by one and all. It's getting reviewed in the first installment of a monthly roundup I'm writing for *Harp* magazine, and if I hear back from the band afterwards I'll try to remember to pass on some addresses, but meanwhile you might just wanna go to their webpage and email them directly; it's easy, I do it all the time, how d'you think I discover all these bands in the first place? Anyway, here's a list of other acts you might think of contacting who've put out records I've liked lately that I'm guessing you mostly haven't heard; the cdbaby ones you can email straight from their page, and the myspace ones frequently list a webpage with contact email addresses. Anyway, good luck (and I hope these links, which I'd been saving in a file for a while, work):
Victory Brothers, Big N Rich style dance/country/rock from L.A.:
Big Dictator, early AC/DC-style metal from Long Island:
http://cdbaby.com/cd/bigdictator
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=48160709
Penny Dale, Stevie Nicks-inspired country from Nashville:
Lucas McCain, Southern Rock from Georgia, better than the new Drive By Truckers CD:
Dirty Birds, garage rock from Portland:
Miko Marks, a black woman from Oakland via Flint, singing country:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=47331552
Savage, attempted hair-metal from Nevada; sounds more like Chrome-style art-punk:
http://cdbaby.com/cd/savagerocksyou2
Wolfgang Bang, snotty punk from L.A.:
http://cdbaby.com/cd/wolfgangbang
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=4151478
Joanna Martino, goth-influenced Christian teen-pop, from Tennessee:
http://cdbaby.com/cd/joannamartino
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=24911247
K. Wilder, triple-A alt-country with jazz overtones, from Florida via Virginia:
Daj, '80s-style dance/pop/rock gal from Florida:
http://cdbaby.com/cd/dajmusic Nell James, 17-year-old Long Island girl prog-rock-guitar/singer-songwriter: http://www.myspace.com/nelljames Matt O'Ree, heavy New Jersey blues-metal guitar dude:
http://www.myspace.com/mattoree Riverside, middle-aged pot-bellied country metal band from Missouri:
Some other ones you might wanna search:
Terry Lee BoltonBecky HobbsHot RollersLucky 7Secret society of the sonic sixKatie NealThe Cool and DeadlyAlan BrosSonic orchidFat Matt McCourt
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 15 July 2006 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.emusic.com/lists/showlist.html?lid=881317&p=1
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 15 July 2006 18:20 (eighteen years ago) link
Listening to it right now, and it sounds good. For one thing, it's DANCE MUSIC. For another thing, the title rhymes with "I hear the twins are back from Saginaw." Also he spells out "Yee-haw" at the end. And some of the rest of his CD sounds even better -- "startin' with me" is about all his fuckups in life, starting with a one-night stand with his best friend's little sister. "the bottle and me" is good i-drink-alone honkytonk. my favorite so far though is "eight minute ride", very hard-rocking biker country (with one guitar part that *might* be deserve to be called psychedelic), and a title that may or may not beat motley crue's premature ejaculation in "ten seconds to love" by two whole seconds, i'm not sure yet. also jake seems to be bragging about how big the rims on his truck are, or maybe that was just his tires; there's a difference, right? but also maybe the most blatant making-of-love in a major label country tune since a different song about riding (cowboys), by big n' rich. so what's jake owen's deal, anyway? he used to be a pro golfer or something? sure does look like a handsome devil in that cover photo.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 15 July 2006 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 15 July 2006 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 15 July 2006 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link
I should have said "some of the rest of his CD sounds really good, too." "Yee Haw" may or may not be the best track; I'm leaning toward the eight-seconds one, but haven't decided yet. "The Bottle and Me" is actually fairly perfuntory, as hardguy drinking honkytonk laments-as-brags go. ("Whiskey's Got a Hold on Me," the alcoholism track that ends the somewhat subtler new Randy Rogers album, which sounds conistently good but not great so far, is better.) And the thanking-Dixie song (a duet with Randy Owen -- should I know who that is? is it Jake's brother?) works more as a post-Southern-rock power ballad than as a tribute to Southernness, if that makes sense. (I.e., it sounds better than it reads, because of its pretty guitar melody.)
(Ha ha, can you tell I'm procrastinating on packing for my roadtrip?)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 15 July 2006 20:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 15 July 2006 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 15 July 2006 22:02 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm also liking jake's "places to run," about running out of escape hatches, sad and laid-back, with a real ease to the delivery, and some spanish guitar. both jake owen and randy rogers play the lazy country boy charlie daniels used to play in his much younger days, i'm noticing. and in "eight second ride," jake and the girl he picks up sing a charlie daniels song together in his truck. my three favorite cuts so far on the rogers album all have titles that start with the word "you" and end in the first person: "you could've left me," "you could change my mind," "you don't know me." i like his sound, especially his drums and guitar. his vocals are less in-your-face than you'd expect, but i have a feeling they'll sneak up on me.
okay, now i gotta run to the store for car supplies.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 15 July 2006 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Saturday, 15 July 2006 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link
don
i will complie and email tomorrow or the day after
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 15 July 2006 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link
I have no compunctions about asking CD Baby vanity bands for promo copies. But I do take a halt on asking for free stuff when I know absolutely no one will accept a pitch on it. Taste wars, you know. We lost, they won.
― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Sunday, 16 July 2006 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link
ps) jake and his conquest in "eight seconds ride" sing "a country boy can survive," which is by hank jr not CDB, obviously. duh.pss) i talked about tea leaf green a lot upthread, too! (first!)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 16 July 2006 00:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 16 July 2006 02:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 16 July 2006 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 16 July 2006 02:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 16 July 2006 03:20 (eighteen years ago) link
(chuck, are you registered anywhere, or is this not elopement?)
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 16 July 2006 13:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Hah! I kept mine in the john for a couple months (hey, it's a long book)...
David's one of my best friends and I've said this before but everybody on this thread should own it. It's a great reference for one but also a provocative and inspiring read--in the sense that it'll send you hunting for a lot of country records you either never heard or had forgotten about.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 16 July 2006 14:16 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.lexjansen.com/marsh/index.htm
Very cool online database to the book, plus more lists including Heartaches, Hoskyns' Country Soul book, Doo-wop and R&B vocal groups. No Stairway though :(
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 16 July 2006 14:32 (eighteen years ago) link
My advice is 'don't bother.' Unless, of course, you actually care about an oral history of Slayer, one never actually quoted to any interesting extent, or the occasional "I like [this band that moves more promotional copies than it sells]" doggerel.
― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Sunday, 16 July 2006 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.emusic.com/genre/feature/200606/286.html
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 00:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 16:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 23:23 (eighteen years ago) link
or to put it another way, people want to fuck him but he doesnt want to fuck anyone, (but his desire not to fuck anyone isnt that elegant glacial, refusal, because that being in sixth gear schitck is, in addition to homosocalism, drinking, etc)
there was always a sublimated homoeroticism to the frat boy nonesense, but i never got anything sublimated in chesney...
that said every major male country performer has more of that beatlemania, audience/performer sexual frisson then chesney.
i dont think hes a bottom boy, and i dont think hes butch, i think that he is a really slippery sexual signifer, the binaries we use to talk about people (audience/performer, gay/straight, butch/femme, top/bottom) all fall down around kenny boy.
(how would he be in bed?)
and where would i send this essay if i was to write it
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 05:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 20 July 2006 03:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Urnst Kouch (Urnst Kouch), Thursday, 20 July 2006 04:26 (eighteen years ago) link
(Not that the two need be mutually exclusive.)
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 21 July 2006 14:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Friday, 21 July 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm doing stuff on Trent Willmon and the Duhks for the Scene, so I hope I'm getting their back catalog, which I gave away to a friend who's way into them and the Mammals and that sort of neograss.
I've talked to Friskics-Warren about the country singles book, and I think he'd admit that those '80s acts are problematic, in there. And Bill's a socially relevant kind of writer; it's not my take on country in some ways, but it's a really useful book. The thing is, there are probably 1000 country singles that are pretty great and essential.
hey Anthony, I got some tomatoes came in, want me to mail you a box of 'em? I am contemplating a crisp, tart BLT today. seriously, Anthony, ain't got the Bennett yet; seems like it takes a while thru customs and so forth.
and got the Rhino Willie Atlantic set; that is music I'm barely familiar with. Xgau rates "Phases and Stages" and "Shotgun" pretty high; so I guess I'll delve into it. I'm a nominal Willie Nelson fan; when he's on, he's on; I like what he tries to do; and even when I saw him as a guest star on "Monk," one of the few TV shows I really try to watch (still trying to decide if I think Traylor Howard is a better sidekick than Bitty Schram, the latter I found kinda sexy, OK, but Traylor has really grown on me), his offhand timing seems to me the whole point, the way his guitar phrases in between his vocals. I guess I wish it were more defined, a bit crazier, or something.
But I am a sucker for singers going to Alabama and sharing a joint with Jerry Wexler in the Tuscumbia Holiday Inn, so I got it up to play.
And I got the new Howard Tate record--his takes on Newman's "Louisiana 1927" and "I'll Be Home" are amazing. We'll see if he actually finds a label or if it's totally self-released. But it's a remarkable piece of work, and actually a song suite, and takes some work to listen to--more work than Joe Henry generally requires, and to my ears far more sophisticated.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 22 July 2006 16:21 (eighteen years ago) link
and i ahe no idea where the bennett went, i ahve had so much trouble with the post, i sent something to brooklyn a month ago, and it was sent back, though the address was correct. apparently the building didnt exist according to canada post. i wonder if i am on some government watch lsit. (i feel bad, but scouts honour, i sent that cd)
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 22 July 2006 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link
also has everyone given up on los lonely boys? new album dont seem too horrible
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 22 July 2006 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Saturday, 22 July 2006 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link
and anthony, you know I'm pullin' your leg. about the tomatoes. man, this guy hit me in the head with some tomatoes! it hurt! shit, that don't sound like it would hurt so much. yeah, but them tomatoes was in a can.
and the bennett, anthony, it'll arrive; gotta go thru customs. no sweat.
man, just tired, kinda seeing everything thru a haze of exhaustion, as my mother enters into what are probably her final weeks if not days. gotta recharge, but it's gonna take awhile. i'm so behind on what I want and need to listen to, not behind on work, and it's real hard to concentrate. tomorrow I'm taking the time to make real good notes on Trent Willmon--doesn't he have a previous record, has anyone heard it?
and yeah, Bitty Schram--she looked like she had a past, one sexy woman. I was kinda hoping Monk and Traylor might, eh, make it, but that's too much to ask in that or any world. Sex is so dirty.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 23 July 2006 01:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Also this Los Lonely Boys album is pretty countrified in many places and (despite the fact that they cannot write any kind of lyrics really) I like it. Nice vocal cameos from father Enrique Sr. and Willie on "Outlaws".
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 24 July 2006 19:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rudy Wontfail (dow), Tuesday, 25 July 2006 02:44 (eighteen years ago) link
Which--at first weirdly--led me to think of the story of Dr. Winifred ‘Fred’ Burkle, the cute/brilliant physicist of Tim Minear and Joss Whedon’s ANGEL.
When we meet her, Fred, the daughter of a stable, middle class Texas family, has been trapped in a ‘demon dimension’ for five years, basically living as a slave to some horrid creatures. Angel aka The Heroic Vampire with a Soul, saves her from this nasty fate, and takes her back to LA, where she joins his investigative squad--which is also benefitting from/being corrupted by a transdimensional Evil Corporate Law Firm.
Anyway--Fred gets home. The firs thing she does?
Puts up a Dixie Chicks poster, which clearly gives her great pleasure.
When Fred thumb-tacked that poster of the Chicks on the wall as a way to imprint her identity on this blank new space, I went “Yes!” instinctively. It was such a great meta moment, was true to Fred the character and illuminating about both the Chicks and their fans.
Fred’s a little ‘country’ (the Texas accent, ‘good’ manners, etc.) and more than a little urban (her exemplary professionalism and don’t-fuck-with-me asskickiness when pushed) and because she’s both, she’d kind of neither--which is where the Dixie Chicks themselves find themselves on this CD--and hence Fred fitting both in metaphorical and dramaturgical terms in into an absurdist milieu that includes such other square pegs as a good-demon karaoke telepath, vampire-with-a-soul, both IS the Dixie Chicks--the cute/non-submissive sexuality
There’s a series of identity negations in Fred and the Dixie Chicks and their fans that creates a kind of amazing and delightful sense of being--like Fred--’outsiders’ deep inside a multimillion-dollar mass enterprise. But that this negation informs all of this is also kind of depressing and kind of accurate. That to be Fred/The Dixie Chicks, that is, to import all the humane stuff of country--the tales of suffering and (usually too neat) triumph, the super-pretty harmonies, the sense of smart and kindness--which runs against the Toby Keith-ian vein of ego-drunk bellicosity--you end up in this new nowhere land populated by tons of people.
And so it makes poetic sense that, as Frank pointed out, the new Chicks CD is both terrific and a bit of a letdown--because, in my take, it IS a letdown that these things can’t as yet be fused into one coherent whole.
― Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 01:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 02:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 02:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 02:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 05:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 11:06 (eighteen years ago) link
or even if i pretend that they don't (because, uh, sometimes they DO, you know.)
incidentally when i got home home to queens monday night our front door had the extension cord for the landlord's son's big ass power generator running through it. power had been out here in sunnyside since wednesday, so we took an extra night before coming back; it got turned back on only two and a half hours after we got back in, which meant that all the emergency supplies we'd picked up in bucks county monday morning (battery-run fans and lanterns, candles, a stovetop coffee percolator, lots of backup batteries) will have to go into storage until the next con-ed fuckup. too bad the dry ice won't keep that long. but we only had maybe $50 of rotten groceries in the fridge when we got back, and we obviously picked the right week to out of the burough, even if we missed all the excitement.
anthony, edd, etc, thanks for the well wishes by the way. and edd, thanks again for the charlie rich burn, which came while i was gone, and which is in my CD changer now. (i also found a used copy of a 1974 comp of '60s charlie called *fully realized* for 50 cents in an antique barn in jeffersonville -- well, the second disc of the double LP anyway -- and brought that back with me. so these should at least help me start getting up to speed. inscription on the back of the comp says it was originally released in 1965 and 1966 as *the many new sides of charlie rich* and *fast talkin' slow walkin' good lookin' charlie rich,* both of which titles sound quite promising.)
also edd, keep your chin up. my thoughts are still with you.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 11:45 (eighteen years ago) link
brewer & shipley - the best of - double LPdr hook - pleasure & pain LP (not disco-country enough, sounds like)freddy fender - the best of LPian gomm - gomm with the wind LP (pub rock was kind of country, right? so maybe i should list the bram tchaicovsky album here too, but i won't...also won't list gap band's 1976 indie-label self-titled album despite their wearing of cowboy hats or bighorn despite bighorn sheep being rural beasts beloved by southern rockers)charly mcclain - greatest hits LP (sounds surprsingly good so far)charlie rich - fully realized LP (second disc only of two-disc set)t.g. sheppard - i love 'em all LP (also not disco-country enough)hank snow - the wreck on the old 97 double LP (badass train wreck on cover)steeleye span - the steeleye span story: original masters double LP (somebody compared a montgomery gentry song to them once)hank williams jr - whiskey bent and hellbound LP*viennese waltzes* 10-inch compilation EP (probably influenced country dance music somehow, right?)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 11:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 12:33 (eighteen years ago) link
i'm also wondering if it's about time somebody came up with a theory about how country's current shoutout thing (trent willmon putting on some ray willie hubbard, jake owen putting on some hank jr, rodney atkins putting on lots of skynyrd in one song and some milsap in another song) should be considered a trend for the post--hop-hop age, but that's just silly since david allen coe and everybody like that did it all the time years ago, right? (but maybe the specific names dropped are getting more interesting? it's so fucking boring when eveybody's always listening to hank and merle all the time. though shooter replacing nugent with george jones was okay, i guess.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 12:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link
haikuyou are also forgetting the faboulous chick version of hillbilly by reba/dolly/loretta--much better then the original
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 26 July 2006 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 27 July 2006 01:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 27 July 2006 02:30 (eighteen years ago) link
xxhuxx you might want to check out aaron pritchett in general and hold my beer as a single--its pretty awesome.
http://www.aaronpritchett.com/downloads.phpvideo here
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 27 July 2006 03:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 27 July 2006 04:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 27 July 2006 04:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 27 July 2006 04:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 27 July 2006 04:39 (eighteen years ago) link
And Anthony I am referring specifically to Reba getting kuntry kudos for dissing the Dixie Chicks behind their backs. Always a great voice and an appealing personality which doesn't come thru on the show. But she is now part of the Axis of Evil, eff her.
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 27 July 2006 12:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 31 July 2006 05:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 31 July 2006 05:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 31 July 2006 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 31 July 2006 17:38 (eighteen years ago) link
This is being taken out of context by a lot of people who have only read part of the quote, or interpreted as "CHIX DISS KUNTRY STARZ CUZ THEY HATE BLU COLLAR TV AND 'PUBLICANZ" but I don't think she meant it like that. Still kind of a dumb thing to admit out loud though.
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.cmt.com/artists/az/dixie_chicks/message_board.jhtml?c=v&t=727264&m=5543246&o=0&i=4
By the way, that 1970 Charlie Rich album that Edd burned for me, Big Boss Man, is great; my favorite songs on it are "Nice 'n' Easy," "I Can't Even Drink It Away," "Big Boss Man," "Golden Slipper Rose," and the excellently titled "I Do My Swingin' at Home," with probably "Memphis and Arkansas Bridge" next, and the two early '60s singles he added at the end, "Lonely Weekends" and "Who Will the Next Fool Be," at least as good. But I might like the second disc of that Fully Realized twofer LP I bought (aka either Fast Talkin Slow Walkin Good Lookin Charlie Rich or The Best Years, from 1966 on Smash -- Peter Guralnik's liner notes seem confusingly to contradict the note on the back of the album) even more; I'm kinda blown away by how funky the guy could be.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:39 (eighteen years ago) link
Bram Tchaicovsky Strange Man Changed Man (post-Brinsley Schwarz soft Brit country Byrds-jangle powerpop rock pretending to be pub-rock new wave in 1979, just like the Ian Gomm LP I bought but even duller) on now. I think I buy a copy of this album for $1 or less every 15 years or so, and I discover the same thing every time --- namely, that "Girl of My Dreams" (#37 pop in the USA in the late summer of '79, where Gomm's "Hold On" went to #18 a couple months later; "Girl of My Dreams" is better thanks to its "Born to Run" opening and the fact that it's as great a blow-up sex-doll song as any by Roxy Music) is the only non-mushy thing on it. (Okay, "Nobody Knows" churns a little at the beginning in an early Tom Petty kinda way maybe, before it softens up; I dunno, I'll give the LP a couple chances, but I'm really not expecting much.) It's sort of like how every few years I'll order chicken livers in a restaurant and then remember why I haven't ordered them for a few years. Or something.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link
That Trent Willmon record is a great concept album about upward mobility in the class sense, seems like, with a real undercurrent of that desire to make your woman happy while having the real fear underneath it, like she's gonna leave any minute because you don't have enough money, and maybe she's sick of your Ray Wylie Hubbard all the time on the stereo, plus your knuckles, Trent, are a mess from all that tinkering around with that piece of shit truck in the driveway. Perhaps the emblematic line is the one that goes "You can't blame a country boy for tryin'/And I did the best I could." Trent seems to realize his hard-shell redneck tendencies and wants to pull back, like when he realizes he's looking right through his woman (seen that look myself from good ol' boys down here, and probably guilty of giving it myself from time to time), and then he gets her coffee the Way She Likes It, probably with those little individual Kreamers you get at the convenience store (bait is available too, and WD-40 for that fucking bolt that's stuck on that goddam truck), the ones that have International Flavors, Irish Setter Mist. "Baby, is the Irish Cream your favorite, or how 'bout this Amaretto Splash...? More sugar...?" But he maybe gets the coffee thrown in his face, that'll wipe that thousand-yard stare off your face. And of course, "Surprise" is excellent, and this is where his sensitivity and receptivity to new modes of coffee enhancement and perhaps male enhancement (when is a country star gonna make one of those commercials, I mean Trace Adkins in a bar and so drunk he forgets to tuck his johnson back in, so everyone is transfixed by his enhancement), and certainly to some specific wishes on the part of his partner, really pay off--he ends up in a high-rise with a jacuzzi, and Ray Wylie sure sounds good there too. "Baby, lemme play one for ya that's for the con-ess-yours, 'Choctaw Bingo.' Ever watch the History Channel...?" Like Tony Soprano, a little afraid of Kulture but when it comes attached to a pretty ass or face, open as all hell. In short, one savvy guy who plays off the competent-plus that is self-effacing, can change a tire quick or tighten up that squealing belt (hey, this spray I got here will get that squeal out, baby, until we can git this ol' belt replaced, let me take you down to Auto Zone, yeah, this ol' truck's a little dirty but it runs real well...you like Willie, ever *really listened to* 'Red-Headed Stranger'?"
And in "Good Horses to Ride" he learns from the best bullshitter, Tut, still dreams of "Conquistador Gold" (like Tony Soprano in the episode where he dreams he's a Roman emperor...hey, ever watch the History Channel?), and gets off an eloquent line about "concrete and steel they spread like the plague/Consuming the rivers,, the mountains and the plains." In short, a great line of bullshit and one designed to help him get that classy, elusive woman he's always wanted, a real evolutionary step or two up in this hat-act thing. And I think the music's pretty great, really cool choruses that manage to play off the rockin' verses, the usual excellent guitar...good album, and the only one I can't stand is "Night in the Ground," yet another live-like-you're-dying song, pretty lame for what seems to be an imaginative guy who can see Comanches "in them breaks to the south." But, an interesting contrast to what Toby wants to do, wall 'em up and play with 'em? Women just want to be kept at home, eh, guys? Trent knows better.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:49 (eighteen years ago) link
(Sorry about the tangent folks, but it is country, sort of.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 31 July 2006 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link
i already said it was a dumb comment, because mm left herself wide open for that interpretation. but there's no 'reba's garbage' there at all unless you're desperate to see that. if anything it's misguided rockism. (and no i don't think it started with the bush family reunion thing, that was just kind of a lame sitcom line and not malicious at all and I don't think they were reacting to it.)
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Although, y'know, fuck it, if she meant "fans of Toby Keith and Reba McIntyre are stupid assholes who don't understand how awesome we are because they are hayseed buttmunchers," then I can't think of another American musical group that would have more of a reason to feel that way based on recent history.
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 06:13 (eighteen years ago) link
In other news, Chip Taylor's two-disc album, Unglorious Hallelujah / Red Red Rose is still awesome.
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 12:41 (eighteen years ago) link
I've heard a song by Josh Gracin (early American Idol finalist working with Rascal Flatts) a few times now--"My Favorite State of Mind" I think its called. I was kinda suprised at how much I liked it considering what a wet bag of salt he was on the TV show. Anyone with an opinion?
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 11:51 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.standarddeluxe.com/store_c.php?pageNum_s_c_simg=0&portid=158
My first instinct was to be anoyed by it: I take it to mean that country music is a thing of the past. It's a dodgy critical trick: don't get involved in an argument about whether a genre's currently good or bad, try to claim it's dead, imply that what's using the name at the moment's a fraud. (Philip Larkin pulled the same trick with regard to modern jazz, btw.)
Possibly I'm displaying the heightened sensitivity of the recent convert.
In other news, I am hatching a plan to visit Nashville, finally. I very much hope this plan comes off.
― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 12:08 (eighteen years ago) link
I am in the middle of doing my Trent Willmon opus; the post on TW above was an attempt to get loosened up to do it. Musically, I think Trent's record is pretty bleh; but any record that has, what, two or three songs about "changeable" women, two songs that mention "bobbers," and two in a row that extol the virtues of skinnydipping...conceptual: he's, in my estimation, *easy with unease*. I find his vocals corny and overly professional, but I still think this is one fascinating and kind of important country record.
and it's not country, but I think Andy Fairweather Low's new one, "Sweet Soulful Music," is superb; and yeah, Brits can't sing, but can we make an exception for the Welsh? (and there is a sort of Nashville connection with Low; some of his '70s records were partially done here, and he used many great Nashville session guys on some of them.)
it's not pubrock, it's more focused, seems to me; but damned if I don't halfway think the new one is even better than his stuff from thirty years ago, he sings better. he's 58 years old today.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 2 August 2006 14:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 3 August 2006 00:52 (eighteen years ago) link
my mother died this morning. I was there when she died, along with my sister and my father. She was bedridden the last week, and stopped eating and drinking last Thursday. Funeral Friday. She was 71, born near Savannah, grew up there and in Statesboro, Ga., and in and around Augusta/N. Augusta/Aiken, S.C. Lived in Tennessee since about '55.
These things, you think you're ready for them, but you never are, and as I sit down for the first time today and think, it's hitting me.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 3 August 2006 01:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 3 August 2006 02:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 3 August 2006 10:43 (eighteen years ago) link
Finally watched Toby's "A Little Too Late" video on cmt.com loaded (where I am getting really sick of the Prilosec commercial about the Big N Rich groupies or BnR deadheads or whatever they are), and I found it quite successful. Only part that strikes me as remotely questionable is the shot where it looks like he misses hitting this wife with the shovel and digs it in the cement bag instead; the rest is self-deprecating enough and just convinces me that people are too frigging senstive these days, even if it reiterates that Toby might have some women issues almost as conflicted as, say, the ones Dennis Leary exhibits on Rescue Me. Also: Jeez, what a great song.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 3 August 2006 13:23 (eighteen years ago) link
Don: let's not tar the Queen's Welsh-Scots-Irish captives: heh, this'll be British history as learned from "Braveheart", I'm assuming. I was much happier when you were writing off all the Britishes, it seems a bit harsh just singling out the Englishes. (Seems to me the English have as many honourable exceptions as the Scots at least: I'll take the English Dusty Springfield over the Scottish Bobby Gillespie if you know what I mean.)
Anthony: I was all ready to order that CD until your final paragraph! Perhaps I should learn to download stuff, like everybody else.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― Josh Love (screamapillar), Thursday, 3 August 2006 18:54 (eighteen years ago) link
filed my trent willmon scene piece. during all this, working has been my salvation. never missed a deadline yet and figured I'd keep that up; my mother would've wanted it that way, a scrupulous person. doing a shortie on wanda jackson's upcoming nashville show w/ amy lavere--talked to wanda on the phone! and she was sexy as hell even at 70, what a burr and a purr in her voice, and she said something to me about how male writers typecast women but never do the same for "some hairy-legged boy" that floored me. now to listen to her (most likely awful_ "I Remember Elvis" CD, which has a pic of the young, sexy(er) Wanda on the cover...
I think that's the right word--I am a bit fried, finally had to calm down with a valium. I ran 5 miles in the dusk last night, just to get back to semi-normal. good to be alive, all that.
anyway, I think Trent's record--having now listened to it maybe 4 times all the way thru, and in my usual method, taking notes on it twice, once for music, once for lyrics--is uneven. but "surprise" seems like a minor masterpiece, and for once his telegraphing the lyrics feels like the right thing to do instead of just cheesy as on the song about "good horses to ride," which I find insufferable. as I do the otherwise quite pleasantly performed "ropin' pen." but his songs about women and their changeable ways are really good...and as I might've said above, this is a good record about skinny-dippin' and fuckin', I guess, but I wish he'd come out and say it. I don't hear much too exciting in the music itself, and the singing can be overripe. but he's onto something here and god only knows, he could turn out to be a menace or even better, a good novelty-song artist. so I rate the record a solid B, but "surprise" gets an A+.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 3 August 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 3 August 2006 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Friday, 4 August 2006 04:02 (eighteen years ago) link
i said the rosary today edd, and am going to mass on monday
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 4 August 2006 05:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Friday, 4 August 2006 22:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Friday, 4 August 2006 23:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 5 August 2006 02:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 5 August 2006 02:55 (eighteen years ago) link
The Chicks' albums have always been spotty, impinged by hokiness on one side and gentility on the other. Their leaving country killed the hokiness, and they've found a way to find intensity within their soft rock. This album may be their best. Still, an opportunity feels lost. At this point, there's no way for them to communicate with their detractors, but I wish they'd felt their way into their detractors' innards. "Goodbye Earl," their murder song from two albums back, is about the glee of a liberating killing rather than about the rage and desperation that caused it. Now, being subjected to the rage itself, they could have learned from it, used it to deepen their music.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 5 August 2006 03:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 5 August 2006 03:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 5 August 2006 03:09 (eighteen years ago) link
the todd snider album is the devil you know, and i dont know if its a 90s comp but i foudn east nashville skyline a week ago or so, and i love the raw scraggliness of hsi voice, and his wit...so i dont know to go new or go old wrt him
i liked the dylan article, i still dont get the connection to/love for ashlee, and the general article sort of disappointed me, for its lack of soul, hip hop, etc and its general indie tendecies, but i wonder if we can talk about songwriters if we are talkign about production by comittee...(so anything britney sang from Oops, to Toxic, for example are amongst the best writing of the 90s but are rarely acknowldeged; or sexyback the new justin timberlake song, is an almsot perfect peice of writing in how it fits words into rthyms, but no ones mentioning he writing (or Missy, where was Missy on the list?)
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 5 August 2006 03:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Saturday, 5 August 2006 03:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Saturday, 5 August 2006 03:54 (eighteen years ago) link
landslide is actually a really good example. the last time i heard it was in a wal mart in central bc, in prince george, picking up film. it should fit into such a place, a lower, softer, cover of a song that was low and soft to begin with. but waiting to buy my goods, i kept listening to it, and its not my favourite dixie chicks song, but it has a intesity of feeling and devotion, a permeant kidn of sadness, that i haev a really hard time talking about. the idea that understantement can be as emotionally/musically evocotive as overstatement is something that i have been thinking al ot about lately, and the dixie chicks embody it perfectly. landslide sounds worn, broken, devoid of content, aird, exhausted in a way that is rare in country.
other examples: on travelin' soilder, the slight emphasis on vietnam, or the almsot whisper of conversation in the first verse, or how the correspondance is mentioned--think of it in other veitnam songs, like dear john or vietnam by porter wagner--and see what seems like rhetoric, and what seems like a confused narrative, from someone who doesnt know exactlty how they feel...
(also, similar feelings on If I Fall You’re Going Down With Me,Cowboy Take Me Away Ready to Run Tonight The Heartache’s On Me Wide Open Spaces There's Your Trouble I Can Love You Better, etc)
the feeling i think, is taking the domestic, and not feeling good about it, and not feeling bad about it, but feeling profoundly unsettled...
i think that the trouble w. the whole london mess, was that they became settled, and though i like this last album, the sadness has disappeared, andthe fuck you has come, and well they cant do fuck you, they arent good at fuck you.
toby, toby is good at fuck you, but then you cant really imagine him sad (big blue note is a failure for that reason) (and he is the only male country singer right now who isnt perpertually down)
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 5 August 2006 07:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 5 August 2006 07:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 5 August 2006 09:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 5 August 2006 09:24 (eighteen years ago) link
really good paste on dylan, frank.
lambchop: I have a really good one-disc comp my buddy david scott put together for me; beyond that, I find them a one-joke band. I'm all for the bobby womack-isms of their production style combined with that pedal steel, and in theory I like kurt wagner's determination to expose his lower-middle-class angst in that diaristic, laconic, evasive fashion; and above all I like the way the records sound. I had a discussion with some Music Critics here about who is really responsible for lambchop's sound; I think it's mark nevers; others think it's wagner; on the evidence of the pre-nevers stuff, the (to my ears) amazing sound nevers gets on lone official and other bands, it's obviously nevers. in other words, this is insular formalism of the kind that nashville never grows out of. and that's why I like lone official so much, because they seem more willing to enter into the world, and don't seem resentful toward the bigger world of pop music, and I find them generous in spirit, as don says, "amelia earhart" is pretty fine, and while I won't disagree with the many folks who find them (and it) the best pavement record pavement never made, my buddy blair who's a pavement fan, went with me to see them and declared that they have far more musical savvy than pavement. so maybe the clintonian '90s are finally resurfacing in Music City, maybe there's some kind of pocket of optimism in this boomtown. or maybe lone official finds some kind of hope in the compulsive betting, and the beauty of horse racing, that they can't stop writing about.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 5 August 2006 12:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 5 August 2006 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link
anthony, i just generally presume you have a higher tolerance for lower-energy singers than i do; that's all...
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 5 August 2006 14:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 5 August 2006 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 6 August 2006 00:51 (eighteen years ago) link
I summarize this a bit on my MySpace blog, for anyone who's interested and doesn't have the time for an Ashlee search on the teenpop thread.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 6 August 2006 01:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 6 August 2006 02:24 (eighteen years ago) link
stars go blue is closest to that low meloncholy of the dixie chix that i was mentioning early
i will end up buying those albums
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 6 August 2006 04:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 6 August 2006 04:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 6 August 2006 05:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Sunday, 6 August 2006 05:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 6 August 2006 05:30 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, the language of romanticism saturates pop as well as rock, and as a lot of you know, I think the word "rockist" explains nothing, is just a buzzword, laziness. But Ashlee's romantic questing "I" (as opposed to various blues "I"s), as well as the linking of angry vocals to that quest (anger a ripping away from normality), tends to enter pop music w/ Dylan.
I don't know what you mean by "politics." To notice that pop lyrics mean something is to challenge people who don't notice it, but those people don't show up on ilX a lot (and get their ass handed to them when they do). I suppose there are people here who think that you should listen to rock only in rock ways and should listen to pop only in pop ways, and that pop is supposed to be "artificial" and "superficial" and should be celebrated as such. But I don't know if there's a particular politics involved in telling these people that their head is up their ass.
Ashlee tends towards reconciliation rather than counterculture (even if her videos show revelers partying beyond cop control), which makes her a "political" challenge to those who insist that it's the job of rock to unsettle the status quo. Conversely, if she fails to reconcile, this may end up being more of a genuine critique of the mainstream (though not intended as such) than the bohemian posturing that aspires to such a critique. But it doesn't have to be such a critique to be great rock.
"I was trapped inside someone else's life and always second best" is as eloquent a description of oppression as one could wish for, but Ashlee doesn't portray it as oppression but rather just the condition of her childhood, a condition that it's her own responsiblity to abandon (the reward being that she gets to re-approach her family as an equal, and therefore gets to love them, finally). Whereas Dylan in his early work would only write equivalent lyrics - "she never sat once at the head of the table" - about someone else's being oppressed. It wasn't until his mid twenties that Dylan gave us anything that might actually be the conditions of his own childhood ("look out, kid, you're gonna get hit," "don't wanna be a bum, you'd better chew gum," etc.). Think of Dylan being like Ashlee rather than vice versa. Dylan the brat, the glamworder. Not Dylan the celebrated "poet."
Anthony, you're not being insulting, but the problem is that you're not saying anything. E.g., if you don't think that, as I claim, Ashlee's using anger cadences in the chorus of "Shadow" that were brought to pop music in the mid '60s by Jagger and Dylan, then just what is it that you think she's doing instead in that chorus? Or if you don't see any resemblance between "I was trapped inside someone else's life" and "she never sat once at the head of the table," then what do you see? If you don't think when Ashlee says she'll walk a million miles to find out what this shit means that she's declaring a romantic and moral quest, then what do you think she's declaring?
Maybe there's an incipient politics in Ashlee's being a glamour puss rather than being a ragged troubadour or a good little punkette, and being a rocker in pop clothing.
You could say that, like Ashlee and Dylan and Elvis, I don't know my place; which is to say that rather than merely serve music or critique it, I use my writing to participate in the music and compete with it, to preen and dazzle and sing. And that's a long-running power struggle too, so you can call it "politics" if you want to, the war between writing and journalism.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 6 August 2006 06:32 (eighteen years ago) link
Blount, you're an idiot.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 6 August 2006 06:38 (eighteen years ago) link
My thoughts on the last Chicks album influences my opinion of this one - or at least my execution in explaining my opinion. The best song of the last album - bar none - was 'A Home' (second, 'Traveling Soldier'). At the time I had been reading "Set This House in Order" about MPD. At the heart of the novel, and at the heart of the Chick's song (and the reason the two became linked for me) was a soft plot that distracts from the essential tension. In "Set This House in Order" the distraction comes from the humor - the pow is the disaster at the heart of the novel (abuse, mental disease). In 'A Home', the distraction is this classic country theme: You left me, we broke up, I was wrong, so sad. The pow is the chorus: "Not a night goes by I don't dream of wandering, through the home that might have been." The tension in 'A Home' isn't the breakup, but rather the potential of what might have been. There's an apocolyptic emptiness that the Chick's are playing towards in the song. It isn't sad because of the now, but rather because of the future. They are living into the pain that they are singing about in the now. The oddness (and shocking-rawness) of this is that every time the song is played is the now. It never becomes the future of discontent and pain, so the pain is never eased. They are constantly staring into an empty future.
Come to 'Easy Silence' which is essentially about being protected from the world. "The way you keep the world at bay for me." The trade-off between the Chorus and Verse is similiar to the one in 'A Home.' The verse seems to be about the reactions to the Chicks, or the war, etc. The Chorus though ignores those facts. It embraces a peaceful quiet and easy silence. The tension is the album-burnings, Bush, the war, the media, etc. The pow is that they just want the Easy Silence that the song promises. Ironically, because the song isn't silent - the tone is soft, but it isn't quiet. There is a lot of noise going on behind the pretense that the Chicks are embracing.
On the Teenpop thread I argued about the merits of Lily Allen's Smile over LDN because of the authenticity of Smile over the implied sincerity of LDN. Here I'd argue the same thing. Frank said in the recent voice that he wants to see the Chicks express their anger, but I want to the argue the opposite. Easy Silence is a better song than Not Ready to Make Nice because it's a more subtle mission statement that clobbers the listener from behind. Are they saying that they want to be taken care of? That they don't want to have to deal with the world? It flies in the face of the Chick's presented image: That they are tough and will fight. It's gorgeous. So while I'd agree with j, that the Chicks didn't make their Sgt. Pepper's, I'd argue that they got closer to it. That by *not* embracing the politicization of the Bush-fiasco, and not pandering to rock critics, they made a beautiful album (Lullaby, Silent House, Voice Inside My Head, I Hope).
I'm sure I'll refine this later,, but this is where I stand right now with the Chicks: They are best when they *aren't* being self-conscious and *aren't* addressing their issues. They have a subtle vulnerability that comes through with this album more than the last one, because they have been hurt by more. I just hope they are able to eradicate any attempts to be mainstream, and that their country audiences appreciate that the Chicks are *exactly* what the audiences have been saying their aren't. (And j is also right that they need more humor.)
― Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Sunday, 6 August 2006 06:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Sunday, 6 August 2006 06:55 (eighteen years ago) link
this is going to get me in shit, but im going to say it anyways.
i think that ashlee strings angst ridden teenage cliches that sound good. the i that you talk about a romantic, i see as the solipism of a bored teenager. there are places where i like her voice, but she hasnt figured out how to use it yet, and often it grates.
the bored teenage stuff comes thru in dylan. the gum/bum line is an example of it, but why is that good writing?
and the glam thing to, the sunglasses in teh back of the limosuine and all of that nonesense, but at least dylan was destructive--he built up and tore down, and built up again. but then so did cher. (with the nose job maybe ashlee is the new cher) (and cher declared a quest too--which pop star/musical artist/mtv wunderkid hasnt decalred some kind of desire for indpendence and desire for ones own autonomy?)
reconcilltion is a really interesting word, because i find ashlee intergrative to the whole late capital excess, the mtv culture.
all of that working against, rebellion that you seem to find in ashlee, maybe i find in britney, who i think is a better performer, writer, actor, musician, star then ashlee will ever be, and who burnt out after 4 albums and 10 singles, is a really good example--because i think britney knows what games are being played against her, and she deconstructs them---all of that romanticism that you give to ashlee i find in britney.
britney knew her body, her history, her lyrics, and that supercompact, hyper aware, romantic ambiguity, one claims for ashlee, i see in her.
if you want a line that matches "I was trapped inside someone else's life and always second best" which i think i wrote in my poetry notebooks at 16, then look at lucky:
Lost in an image, in a dreamBut there's no one there to wake her upAnd the world is spinning, and she keeps on winningBut tell me what happens when it stops?
which is more bowie then dylan, sure but then bowie is a better songwriter?
(i am not sure i am saying anything here, again, let me try again: dylan knows his place, and has spent the last 30 years fucking with us, cause hes a legend, adn he can do that; elvis was an artifact of colnel tom; ashlee is in an opedial fury with joe, something that remains unacknowledged;and we give pop starts 5 years, instead of 40...)
where do you think ashlee will be in 20 years? in 5? is this kevin federline, cheetos and meth schitck that ms spears is doign right now the motorcycle crash
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 6 August 2006 06:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 6 August 2006 07:58 (eighteen years ago) link
Ashlee singing lines that you wrote in your notebook at age 16 seems pretty good. Also, singing teen angst clichés isn't incompatible with being connected to Dylan. The reason I wrote "You're not saying anything" above is that you were just repeating variations on "I don't see the connection between Ashlee and Dylan" and "I don't get what the big deal is about Dylan." Whereas if we're to engage intellectually you should be heading more towards, "This is how Frank connects Ashlee to Dylan, but I would map things differently, for instance..." and "this is the story Frank tells about Dylan, but I come up with different stories from those same songs, for instance..." Which you're starting to do now. Obviously, understanding why I see things the way I do doesn't require that you agree with my way. But there's no virtue in failing to understand.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 6 August 2006 08:33 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 6 August 2006 08:40 (eighteen years ago) link
No I didn't. The person who wrote the subhed did, maybe, but I didn't. I didn't express an opinion on the matter. I personally think the Chicks do anger well, but everything - anger, loss, peacefulness - would be better if they thought deeper and harder, which is what I was really calling for. More and better thought. By cutting deeper I meant understanding further.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 6 August 2006 08:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 6 August 2006 09:21 (eighteen years ago) link
can you talk a bit about ashlee, dylan, joe, mtv, and columbia?
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 6 August 2006 09:22 (eighteen years ago) link
(2) Don't know much about Joe, actually, and would take the discussion to the teenpop thread if I did, though it's interesting that Joe helps to promote a song that takes him to task (first line of "Shadow" is, "I was six years old when my parents went away"). But conflict with manager/dad isn't part of the Ashlee Legend in the way that conflict with record company is part of the Pink Legend - she sang a song about it - and the Shakira Legend and in a very minor way the Dylan Legend.
(3) Obv. Ashlee isn't the innovator that Dylan or Elvis was. Modern teenpop doesn't totally match up with previous teenpop, and there are musical changes going on, but incremental ones coming from a whole bunch of artists. You might say the same with the pop/adult contemporary that the Chicks are now part of; there are some things that mark the new Chicks album as an '00s album, even if a lot of it obviously draws on the '70s.
(4) As for the quietness issue, what you're trying to say reminds me of what I'd say about "Rhiannon" and "Dream" and Coney Island Baby, which I considered not "soft rock" but "quiet hard rock." Not sure I don't think some of the Chicks is soft rock and folkie restraint, but I do think I get the point you're making. "Quiet" and "seething" aren't incompatible.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 6 August 2006 12:59 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 6 August 2006 13:10 (eighteen years ago) link
seems like oprah is a big influence on country right now; celeb-fucking is everywhere and i don't see country as immune from that, it's in fact a species of it, and that's how crafy a guy like chesney is, he gets critics to write about him as some sort of new boho that ain't a boho and he's just another celebrity, albeit one with a very expensive hat on. ditto the chix: i mean come on, are they really that worthy of any big consideration beyond the sociological? there are values in that music, and i suppose they have their "experimental" tendencies just like the beatles, but they always seemed manufactured, three mannequins of varying femaleness who *actually play the banjo* and all that, and are droll about being dixie chix who know all too well the limits of both dixie- and chix-dom. just like madonna or any pomo star, sure there's some good music, but mainly it's just the name itself and the fact that there's some supposed oppositional, female-empowerment shtick happening and you know what happens when you're a woman and buck the system. your fans desert you, and the ones who bought into the opposition the most heavily continue to support the group no matter what--there's "feeling" there because it's country, where with madonna, it's about pure wealth and power making its own rules, and in the case of the beatles, there's a dazed, awed consensus that "this band is the best because they dared to be themselves and they keep changing, endlessly mutating, from 'she loves you' to tim leary and 'tomorrow never knows' in a mere three years! art!" but as someone said above, country is about feeling and humility, something madonna isn't famous for and something the beatles floated above, and something a group like the chix are bored with, just like they're probably too bored and too arrogant to bother with the "hooks" that james doesn't find on the new record.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link
i saw the chix live last week, and was wondering if their style change is or is perceived to be a necessary response to the growth of their fanbase. tim mcgraw and faith hill were already making arena-ready rock and pop, but the chix' bluegrass-based sound is more delicate and unfortunately can get drowned out in madison square garden. it's still what draws me to them, but i also learned to get off on their sound when it got girly-skynyrd (though not girly-eagles, or unreconstructed fleetwood mac, sorry, tho the fleetwood mac stuff is admittedly catchy). the problem is that persona-wise, the non-natalie girls are a bit too prim (and the show too tightly professional), and they can't be skynyrd if their music doesn't move more (and their backing guitars were really muddy). maybe it would have worked better outside with a big sky.
and yeah, the we're-so-brave-we-hate-bush is pretty facile, and annoying more than twice, but in NYC* at least it got a huge response several times over, and i had to laugh in the encore when they girly-snarled a "stayed in Mississippi way too long" cover.
so are either of the last two albums worth buying?
*where the guy in front of me was wearing a white belt, and the Chesney-costumed guy a few rows down might have been gay. interesting crowd generally - heavily female, obv, lots of dates, lots of moms and pretty young kids, all races represented. is this what a Madonna show is like?
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:45 (eighteen years ago) link
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― gabbneb (gabbneb), Sunday, 6 August 2006 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link
As far as the Dylan v. Ashley thing: I was listening to Dylan at Folksinger's Choice in 1962 - which I think Frank would say is still apart of Dylan's teen-pop era (though I always imagine teen-pop Dylan is Blood on Blood, etc). And what makes the bootleg incredible is, of course, the conversation in between the songs. Where Dylan is feeling around, trying to sense his place in music. His songs aren't "folk songs," they're "contemporary songs."
(nervous giggle in conversation after playing Emmitt Till - Interviewer: Have you sang that for Woody Guthrie? Dylan: Nah, I'm gonna sing it for him.)
There's this figuring out that is going on. I think my problem with Ashley Simpson is that she doesn't have the same emptiness of form that she's working into. The stardom she's trying for has already been mapped out - either by Dylan, or by Madonna, or by her older sister. I don't think you can discount the novel, or the new. Even if Simpson can completely recreate Dylan's ballads, or join him in the Romantic tradition, at best she'll only be the second person to have done so.
― Mordechai Shinefield (Mordy), Sunday, 6 August 2006 18:28 (eighteen years ago) link
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― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 8 August 2006 04:45 (eighteen years ago) link
anyone want a burn?
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― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 10 August 2006 06:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 10 August 2006 12:07 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/customer-reviews/B000FO45Z2/ref=cm_cr_dp_pt/104-7532074-2415914?ie=UTF8&n=5174&s=music
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 10 August 2006 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Published on Poptimist:Jason McCoy, here, has a lurid, desperate, self loathing quality, and the song is obsessed about a woman who "aint missing missing him". The track has a tabloid restraint, where silences replacing details, and loud noise work in the place of sexual explicitness.
Listen to how he sings two lines at the one minute mark--where McCoy talks about a lover doing things he dont, and wont. He gives a long space of rangy, wiry guitar, before adding the word anymore. In those seconds, our minds grow any large with all sorts of decay. Anymore suggests they did that kind of decadence together.
McCoy does this kind of song well because he still believes in sin (there is a song on this album called I Feel a Sin Coming On) but also pleasure. The two break apart into something wilder then much standard country, and even his most tender ballads have an isolating despair.
From his greatest hits.
YSI here
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 10 August 2006 14:49 (eighteen years ago) link
I haven't heard "Whatever We Wanna," the new non-US Rimes CD. I know she's got the #1 song in, like, Taiwan. (and there's a fairly nondescript but still interesting little thing on her on MusicCityNews.com.) the last I had heard, she was working with the producer Dan Huff on a new record; and I've heard she plans to release something next year. "Whatever" is on WEA International, and I'll see if I can track down someone to get me a copy. (And wow, she looks sexier 'n usual on the cover...sexier than Tanya Tucker, to me...)
I told Don this--I interviewed Shelly Fairchild this week, she's playing some of her new material here on the 19th and I wanted to take that opportunity to do a short preview of that show. She's been gone from Sony for a while, about a year, and is writing songs which she says are more pop, more funky, and apparenly has recorded, and will do, a cover of a Mother's Finest song whose title she wouldn't reveal. One of the writers she's working with is Richie Supa, I believe it is, who's written hits for Aerosmith...and she's been recording, and will be shopping. Sounded real smart, real canny, and enough of a sense of humor to tell me that she's tough on bands, apparently--her band quit on her ten minutes before a Billy Block radio show here about a year ago.
That Willmon piece I did is in the Scene this week--I don't have the link right here, but you can also check out Tracy Moore's nice coverstory on the olden days of '80s Nashville rock scene, including some nice stuff on Jason and the (Nashville) Scorchers. Brings back memories, since I was here and hung out at those clubs, seeing X and the dB's and the Scorchers (the latter who were ferociously good the couple times I saw 'em...)
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:04 (eighteen years ago) link
Wow, that's totally badass.
Here are Mother's Finest, if you doubt me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uQV0pVi0y0
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 10 August 2006 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 10 August 2006 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link
i didn't even know he had another live album out. i think that makes 3 or 4 of those for him. probably the best way to hear him, tho -- he's more fun live, his studio albums can be a little draggy.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 10 August 2006 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link
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― anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 10 August 2006 19:22 (eighteen years ago) link
Video for LeAnn's "Strong", the German single, which is strong, a power ballad. Again, not a good enough song, though a good performance, goes loud without oversinging.
I like these more than her recent few country singles.
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― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 11 August 2006 09:51 (eighteen years ago) link
I bought the Lone Official LP and have tried twice to listen to it. It sounds lovely, but both times I have reacted so badly to the fellow's voice that I've had to play something else. This never happens to me (I am after all a Britisher, so I'm used to people who can't sing; also I listened to lots of British indie in the 1980s so I learned to actvely like people who can't sing).
― Tim (Tim), Friday, 11 August 2006 10:40 (eighteen years ago) link
Wow, great question. Are we allowed to count Jon Bon Jovi yet? (I can't even remember what his Catholic imagery was, off hand, but I remember I wrote about it in the Voice once while reviewing his solo album connected to a cowboy movie he did around the turn of the '90s, Blaze of Glory or whatever.) Also you'd think maybe a little of Springsteen's papism would've seeped into country somewhere, but I'm not sure where. Also, there is of course the great nation of Mexico, duh (though Latin America is increasingly veering Protestant, apparently, thanks to infestation by evangelist missionaries, what the hell?) I gotta give this some more thought.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 11 August 2006 11:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 11 August 2006 11:26 (eighteen years ago) link
catholic country:http://uscatholic.claretians.org/site/PageServer?pagename=usc_NewsArticle_musichttp://www.catholicmusicnetwork.com/cmn_cd_detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=50762(check out the francisan hip hopper on that site too)http://catholicinformation.wordpress.com/2006/05/25/why-does-it-have-to-be-wrong-or-right/http://www.catholicrock.com/(they are awful)http://www.apostlemusic.com/jukebox/
xanga/google groupshttp://www.catholicnews.com/data/movies/06mv106.htmhttp://www.xanga.com/Cowgirl4Christ2009http://www.xanga.com/MaryTea33http://www.xanga.com/singinsarahhttp://groups.google.ca/group/rec.music.dylan/browse_thread/thread/ff095d311c1c2354/d10bd682169391c0?lnk=st&q=&rnum=7&hl=en#d10bd682169391c0http://groups.google.ca/group/rec.music.country.western/browse_thread/thread/2294b81246333efb/920c562890608960?lnk=st&q=&rnum=20&hl=en#920c562890608960
also thishttp://www.phatmass.com/
doing a search for catholic in the ccm proved futile
and techincally, i think, urban is now catholic
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― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 11 August 2006 13:38 (eighteen years ago) link
http://cdbaby.com/cd/mmcdermott2
And a Nashville myspace guy who lists "getting kicked out of Catholic shool in Richmond" as one of his influences:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=68394213
It should probably be noted here, however, that Peter Steinfels' highly recommended A People Adrift: The Crisis of the Roman Catholic Church in America (which I've been slowly plugging through around bedtime all summer) refers to a polemic published in 1990 by liberal Newport, Rhode Island liturgical musician Thomas Day called Why Catholics Can't Sing. So be forewarned.
Also, not country; but what the hell?:
http://cdbaby.com/cd/nickalexander2
― xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 11 August 2006 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.nickalexander.com/
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― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 11 August 2006 14:12 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0111,sheffield,23030,22.html
>one of the weird things about growing up Irish American is that the Italian kids had all the rock stars. They had Madonna Ciccone and John Bongiovi and Aerosmith's Steven Tallarico, even Roseanne Liberto Cash on the country side of the dial. They cleaned up their names, they dressed up funny, they unlocked their bel canto sweet-emotion voices, and it was all gravy to the proverbial goose. What did Irish kids have? Well, there was Joe Walsh. And the Mahoney boy, Eddie Money, and let's see who else . . . uh, that Joe Walsh sure could play, couldn't he? The Italian kids had Pat Benatar. We were stuck with Laura Branigan. <
So, um...Did Dion Dimucci ever cross over country?
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― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 12 August 2006 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link
Country artists seem to all come from Texas or Oklahoma these days, so I dunno how Cat-lik that is. Fats Domino did country down in NOLA, Lee Dorsey did "Hey Good Lookin'," but right off the bat I can think of no country performers from those parishes. maybe the Florida parishes.
got the new Alan Jackson yesterday, and will investigate how he and Krauss do.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 12 August 2006 19:05 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.metrolyrics.com/lyrics/2147433064/Sammy_Hagar/I_Love_This_Bar
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 13 August 2006 01:45 (eighteen years ago) link
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― don (dow), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 23:12 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.pandora.com/?sc=sh123684599888936884
(Brie Larsen just segued into the Flower Kings, who seem to be singing about "looking for god's grace among cosmic dinosaurs" or something, so maybe they're Christian rock. Also, I don't think I like them; I'll probably nix them. But first I'll give 'em a chance.)
(Yeah, definitely Christians: "The untold Genesis of man," wow. Song just ended, and I'm still not sure how much I liked it. There was something psychedelic about it which I didn't mind. Now Christy Carlson Romano doing "Bounce," which I liked a lot right away.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 15 August 2006 23:45 (eighteen years ago) link
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Ha ha, now "Asphole" by Pigface; how did it get from Cal Smith into that? (And who is Cal Smith, anyway?) I'm not sure if that is John Lydon singing, or just somebody who sounds like John Lydon. Either way, I like it a lot more than I thought I'd like a Pigface song.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link
as well, the new trace adkins single raises but doesnt settle the question raised by the first one, namely, is it just stupid and misogynst or accidentially brilliant
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link
i don't care about no ilx station, anthony; i care about MY station. but anyway, how is last fm better than pandora? now i'm curious...
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link
got new montgomery gentry, "some people change." opening track "some people change" uses great whistling noises at first, while the opening of "hey country" is *really* skewed in a motor-city-tunin-up kind of way, and then it uses some I guess big and rich derived "heys" over a totally great spare funk groove, and an equally cool "whoa, whoa, whoa" section that then goes into "i don't know, but i've been told" thing like i believe we talked about upthread, and back to the "whoa, whoa" thing. and a really insane slide-guitar solo. this music happens real fast and man is it up. and then a banjo. it's so self-consciousl mythic like springsteen, in fact the achievement already, on this first listen, seems kind of comparable in terms of just density and this heroic reaching out.
not that I think I agree that "love" is what makes "some people change" from their racist ways, necessarily; but it's good to know they're utopians and they're thinking about what doofuses they are. like in "lucky man" eddie, I think, is complaining as usual, like his Bengals lost. and he hates the heat and his job. he has a "few dollars in a coffee can."
anyway, whatever, it sounds good, real good, I'm amazed, actually. I don't agree with turkey-hunting but it's huge around here. I used to go duck-hunting and dove-hunting when I was a teen. but shooting the noble wild turkey, I'm against. so, my brother-in-law's way into that shit and he shows me this video he was in, that's on the Men's Channel and it's this fairly professionally done locally produced and shot hunting show. in it, the guys are waiting for this male turkey to strut and have a good time, and then it's like, "he's beautiful! He's beautiful! NOW KILL THAT STRUTTIN' TURKEY (words in bold direct quote). bang bang. anyway, the music underneath it is Montgomery Gentry, "gone gone gone" they sing, and as you can imagine the turkey-hunters love it and I find it bathetic, I guess the word is. but apparently the guy who does this stuff gets the rights to the music free, there are several snippets of it thruout.
anyway, I'll check out xhuxxk-radio, and man it's a nice day here, sunny, low humidity, brisk with a window open, and montgomery gentry's record just sounds great. think I'll have a turkey and swiss on rye.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link
well, just remember that lots of the songs are ones that pandora, judging from what they figure out about my tastes, decide i'm going to like. and often, they are wrong. telling them when they're wrong is half the fun, but i can only do that when i'm actually listening. so caveat emptor, but still expect an intriguing listen (also, it's faster to program than village voice radio ever was!)
and man, i need to hear that montgomery gentry album. like, now.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 18:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link
Ha, that's exactly what happened to me with Pandora, when I started out with Aqua! They started throwing all these interchangeable Kylie Minogue songs I didn't care about at me, then "San Francisco (You Got Me)" by the Village People and "I Want a Dog" by the Pet Shop Boys, which were better. (I should add that it's an understatement to say that lots of the songs are Pandora picks not my picks; really most of them are. Last five, only the last of which had to do with anything I actually requested: Phil Seymour "Precious to Me" likeable indistinctive powerpop; Ian Gomm "Hold On" loveable and only slightly less indistictive powerpop with a sax part that I actually talked about on this thread a week or two ago; the Yellow Balloon "Can't Get Enough of Your Love" cloying late '60s powerless sunshine shlock with a My Three Sons/Captain and Tenile connection that I came real close to giving the thumbs down to then decided it's pleasant enough I guess; Neil Diamond "Solitary Man" great great great obviously; Apex Theory "Topsy Turvy" topsy-turvy herky-jerky jazz-fusion gnu-metal that sounds like how I wish System of a Down did.) (Now Fretblanket "Supercool" Clunky Weezer-wannabe pop-punk with a stiff drummer; I hate this and just nixed it. Amazed they still pick pop-punk and emo songs for me, when I nix almost every one. Though Busted sounded okay, I guess. Weirdest thing they picked for me: An Elton John ballad from the The Lion's King.) (Now Pure Sugar "Delicious," dancey girl-pop, not awful but it turns ridiculous when the singer tries to get soulful and sexy like some kind of house music diva. This gets thumbs down too.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link
i like last fm better, because i ahve found more music on it, and the conenctiosn seem closer, and there is also a community building aspect--something that i care about, but realise there that mileage will varry.
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link
and left hip is a little to indie edged, adn stylus fired me, so a review of either julie roberts or gentry is sort of tetherless for me, but we will find somewhere, cause dammit i love me the sext facists
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link
PANDORA THINKS I'M TWEE
okay, here's what's been playing on my station in the last 2 hours or so:
gino soccio "dancer" (i requested him and this is great)m "pop muzik" (didn't ask for this, and it's one of my favorite songs ever)alison limerick "where love lives" (gave this generic techno-pop gal a thumbs down, so pandora starts up a new sequence for me)
classics iv "spooky" (didn't ask for this, but i've always liked it)ars nova "well well well" (missed this since i was fixing a greek turkey burger in the kitchen; i'm a little annoyed by pandora's obsession with obscure psych-pop nonentities for collectors with limited taste, which i'm guessing this is an example of)tuesday's childen "in the valley of the shadow of love" (sort of half heard this, but pandora has played these particular psych-pop obscuros before, and they seemed neither great nor horrible; i said i didn't want pandora to play it for another month)spencer davis group "i'm a man" (i'd requested this song)bryan adams "room service" (i'd requested a couple other bryan songs but not this one; out of one ear while i was eating my burger it sounded better than the dull late mellencamp and springsteen songs pandora keeps playing instead of songs from before they mostly stunk)the three o'clock "i go wild" (they definitely didn't go wild, but i didn't give this the thumbs down, in honor of tim ellison i guess)black lab "time ago" (this sucked major ass, though i already forget why; i gave it the thumbs down, so pandora started a new sequence)
war "slippin into darkness" (great; i'd requested them)four tops "don't let him take your love from me" (at this point i went up to the post office and missed the next several songs, only one of which was by an artist who i'd specifically requested)dyke and the blazers "funky walk parts 1 and 2"tower of power "souled out (live)"jonzun crew "space cowboy" (didn't hear this, but this is the one band i'd requested that i missed while i was gone)steve spacek "slave"stevie b "love and emotionafter 7 "kickin' it"alan jackson "tall tall trees"billy ray cyrus "what else is there"billy joe shaver "it just ain't there for me no more"sawyer brown "six days on the road"gordon lightfoot "couchiching" (this is where i got back from the post office; the song, which i'd never heard before, sounded dark like gordon should, like it was recorded in the middle of ship capsizing or whatever; what was more interesting is that i swear i compared sawyer brown's singer to gordon in a review once, which connection is somewhat vindicated by him segueing from them here!)townhall "ellie mae" (bland coffee-house folk and/or alt-country, thumbs down and sequence aborted)
the fantastic johnny c "got what you need" (sounds fine)the jam "war" (didn't request this; it's the brit mod band, covering edwin starr reggae dub style, and i don't mind it)bobby day "harlem shuffle" (didn't request it; better than the stones version)joe south "hush" (i'd requested him just out of curiosity, and i'd never heard his original version of this great song, and it's pretty amazing. i'd actually considered requesting deep purple's version, which means they're doing an okay job of mapping my tastes i think)brian setzer "sixty years" (good boogie crunch at the start, almost zz top in his density. vocals are too plain, but i'll live and let live, which is what i think he just said i should go. "i only got sixty years on the planet" - -definitely better than that stupid dave matthews song that says you've only got 100 years to live, yeah right, good luck dork. setzer ends with cool techno-like drum part)bad company "lonely for your love" (i think i requested the drum'n'bass bad company not these guys, but these guys are better)the jeff healey band "roadhouse blues (live)" (i dunno; isn't he blind or something? i always figured he'd be way too stodgy to tolerate, but i can probably live with him doing a doors cover.)
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― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 20:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link
this canned hunting, done by neo cons, strikes me as popular and politically impt--in the sense, that it provides a simulacra of masculinity, while keeping the hunter reativley safe (cheney, and another promient republican have been caught doing it recently), one is reminded of the technocrat wars, that wishful thinking allows to be thot as contained but really arent, a wish to make violence safe...
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 21:55 (eighteen years ago) link
Troy Gentry was arraigned on August 15, 2006, in Federal Court for the District of Minnesota. He pleaded not guilty to a charge of conspiring with a licensed commercial bear guide and the owner of a private game farm in Minnesota. While up in a tree stand, Troy used a bow and arrow to kill a bear that was running free in a several-acre fenced area in the game farm.
Troy is an avid environmentalist and hunter who supports and follows all game laws. Before he killed the bear he was told by the bear guide that it was proper and legal to kill the bear which was not a tamed bear and was never in a pen or cage. Troy used his correct name on his Minnesota bear hunting license and never attempted to disguise his identity.
The allegation that the video of the bear shoot was edited for the purpose of mischaracterizing the circumstances of the bear shoot is false. The only editing done was to remove the "dead time" from the video tape (more than one hour long) reducing the tape to about 15 minutes. The video was for Troy's personal use and was never intended to be and was not used commercially. The bear hide was shipped under Troy’s name to a taxidermist in Kentucky and prepared into a taxidermy mount.
Troy is accused of knowingly and willfully conspiring to violate federal law by taking the bear and transporting its hide from Minnesota to Kentucky and later to Tennessee. Troy absolutely denies that he knowingly and willfully did anything illegal and is confident that he will be exonerated.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link
hunger "colors".38 special "stone cold believer"deep purple "perfect strangers"electric six "i'm the bomb"yo gotti "get down"waltham "be with me"alison kraus "stay (live)" (gave this a thumbs down)alice cooper "dead babies"ac/dc "snowballed"ted nugent "out of control"ratt "wanted man"the sonics "dirty old man"? and the myterians "why me"love "can't explain"bee gees "bad bad dreams"tom jones "she's a lady"dave clark five "a little bit now"divinyls "temperemental"pat benatar "prisoner of love"alannah myles "still got this thing"moxie "sorry" (i forget what this sounded like)little big town "bring it on home"julie roberts "girl next door" (i like this!)big & rich "big time"trent willman "good one comin' on"skye sweetnam "heart of glass"noella "fashion" (must've left the room for this one)amber pacific "save me from me" (thumbs-down emo)veronicas "i could get used to this"aly & aj "collapsed"
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 23:49 (eighteen years ago) link
kelly clarkson "since U been gone"liz phair "favorite"chron gen "you make me spew"gg allin "outlaw scumfuc" (to my utter surprise and shock, i LIKE this -- it's david allen coe's "longhaired redneck" with new words! and i don't think i've ever liked a gg allin song before in my life!)
aly and aj to gg allin in four songs is genius, you have to admit.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 17 August 2006 00:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 17 August 2006 12:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:10 (eighteen years ago) link
Has anyone here downloaded the Promo MPE player? Dave Moore used it for the one and only purpose of dl'ing the Bratz album, says he had no problems, but...
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 18 August 2006 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link
from Harp, since i never really got around to talking about them here in detail, my Victory Brothers review (which they messed up some of the punctuation of, but I'm not going to whine about it):
http://www.harpmagazine.com/reviews/cd_reviews/detail.cfm?article_id=4562
― xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 18 August 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link
I agree with the anger thing--I mean, who else could put such sweet-and-sour pucker in such a kiss-off as "LubbocK?'--but on compulsive repeated listening, I just keep finding layers of things I wasn't looking for and thereefore am delighted to find.
What I feel nobody has really touched upon is the way, pirposelly or not, the Chicks and/or Rubin are using genre twich juxtaposition to negate genre and so get close to creating something new, but not 'new' in a lookit-my-refs-blend pomo way.
I think "Easy Silence" gets people because, yes, it's pretty as fuck and slow and intimate but it's to overt to be Low. Is it a ballad, folk--what the fuck is this thing? Are the background vocals gospelish or Beatles-ish?
Point is, the elements bounce off each other and reflect and what it is is "Easy Silence", no pun.
You get the same genre juxtaposing/neutering effect in "Silent House", whic chord-wise and even in some instrumental flourishes and harmonies, is an ELO ballad--about Alheimers. By a 'country' trio with a violinist from from Pennsylvania and a multi-string plucker from Massachusetts.
They don't just lift elements like Big & Rich might--they fuse them until the source materials are changed on, er, a genetic level or some other comparison that signifies 'essense'.
So on a sheer musical level, I think the Chicks thought long, hard and smart--and I'm also thinking, open-ear instincs had as much to do with it. OTOH, they are hyper self-aware--Natalie joked in NYC the amusing aspect of writing a song about infertility that has as chorus "it's so HARD with it doesn't COME easy" [her emphasis.]
[Side thought--have people written about how "Goodbye Earl" is not only about two women who kill a scumbag, but move into a house together to live happily ever?]
Anyway, on the newish one, I first thought the words were simply skillfully functional--but more and more they have this incredible elegance and economy. I mean, in four lines--
"And I will try to connectAll the pieces you leftI will carry it onAnd let you forget"
--and they cover an arc that starts with tragedy, moves to acceptance and ends in honor and forced letting-go. Like, that's common skill?
― Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Saturday, 19 August 2006 02:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Saturday, 19 August 2006 02:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 20 August 2006 02:07 (eighteen years ago) link
What I mean is--well, listen to "So Hard." The intro is out of Procol Harum's "The Devil Came from Kansas." The verse would fit nicely in any song by The Veronicas. Thos chorus--which uses the inflection of the intro--smooshes these two wildly different genre gestures into a new and kind of amazingly gainly shape.
The point is, what I guess I'll cal signifying genre tags are somehow neutralized--and that's really hard to do.
On "Goodbye Earl" they take a basic pop song form and the only thing that makes it 'country' is the addition of banjos and Natalie overplaying the hayseed card with the yelped "black-eyed peas!" stuff. In other words, the signifying tags are seperate and it just makes it another recombination.
But on so much of "Taking..." the tags dissapear, the fusion is seamless, which makes the music itself have this transparent, existing-outside-identifer quality whose lack of genre actually makes the words more powerful, a carrier frequncy or something.
Rubin worked with the approach on the third Cash record, but there the legend was so rish and trenchant it couldn't go all the way in the fusion/transparency thing. But the Chicks are sort or inherently malleable--sound-wise--and so it gets there, and it's a pretty sui generis there.
― Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Sunday, 20 August 2006 04:37 (eighteen years ago) link
Just saying that in the spirit of noting how different the Chciks project is. The Katrina Benefit version of "I Hope" even sounds like a dry run for "Taking..." It's faster ("soul/rock"), there's more Eagles semi-rock guitar, the sane sounds like Jeff Lynee produced it.
― Grey, Ian (IanBrooklyn), Sunday, 20 August 2006 04:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― Torgeir Hansen (MRZBW), Sunday, 20 August 2006 10:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 20 August 2006 13:24 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.villagevoice.com/music/0633,cavalieri,74173,22.html
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 20 August 2006 14:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 28 August 2006 06:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 28 August 2006 18:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Marmot (marmotwolof), Monday, 28 August 2006 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Monday, 28 August 2006 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link
There's pedal steel (or at least steel guitar) on one track!
No Depression still won't let me review it. :(
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 28 August 2006 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link
speaking of botched sonically, "sailover," the new p.f. sloan record done in n-ville by jon tiven, is perhaps the worst-sounding record I've ever heard. the guy reviewing it in ND missed the point when he complained about the vocals: sloan can sing, it's just that the vocals are so poorly recorded and the performances tiven got are so below what sloan's capable of, that it sounds like sloan can't sing. a shame. even buddy miller and tiven's usual cast of guests can't save it from instant oblivion.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 28 August 2006 23:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 29 August 2006 01:59 (eighteen years ago) link
i will mail mccoy w/i the next week
love ya'll
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 4 September 2006 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link
also, toby's 'broken bridges' soundtrack is really good. he starts understated, winds up in zz top territory, and i'm real curious about these new southern rock bands flynnville train and poor richar's hound he's got on there. lindsey haun's 'broken' starts out with gloomy 'dream on'/'don't speak'/'don't close your eyes'/(some supertramp song i forget -- 'goodbye stranger,' maybe?) piano.
pat green album starts out good, gets dull in the second half, still a keeper. tony joe white and stoll vaughan CDs don't quite cut it.
country reissue of the year is the bob wills box set, obviously.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 4 September 2006 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Tuesday, 5 September 2006 20:09 (eighteen years ago) link
thanks don
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 9 September 2006 02:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Saturday, 9 September 2006 04:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 9 September 2006 05:13 (eighteen years ago) link
New Alan Jackson is a bit...Jackson-esque, statesman-esque, canned. However, I do like "Nobody Said It Would Be Easy," rueful and with electric piano and chord changes out of Marshall Tucker and maybe Little Feat and any number of rueful '70s tunes? That descending heartbreak-tug. it works, though it kinda goes flat. And boy, high-quality atmospheric guitar intro to "The Fire Fly's Song" and Alan going on about standing in the young man's boots, "this old man don't run no more." And here's how fucking smart Alan is: I'm all sucked into feeling sorry for the poor lame guy, and yeah, "I don't want you like I used to...I want you more." Quite nice guitar lick in there and again, that slight pop heartbreak shit. Canny.
And, did this Tony Joe White piece that is coming out in American Songwriter, and had fun listening to his Monument shit. "High Sheriff of Calhoun Parish" finds TJ resisting advances of the H.S.'s nubile daughter, but getting his ass kicked again, and I am not kidding, the intro to "Even Trolls Love Rock 'n' Roll" is like the Talking Heads gone funk-African-southern on "Remain in Light." Tony Joe plays a mean guitar.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 10 September 2006 01:02 (eighteen years ago) link
great, great track. not so sure about the rest of the album (the "bluebird" song seemed good, much of the rest is likeable), but "the fire fly" is really the equal of merle haggard in aging-mode. which seems weird to me -- alan's not all THAT old, is he??
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 10 September 2006 02:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 10 September 2006 02:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 10 September 2006 07:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 10 September 2006 11:35 (eighteen years ago) link
Anyway, I really like Jackson's record in a mild way, and I think he does aging about as well as Haggard. I don't think he sings as distinctively--something isn't *there* with Jackson, is the best way I can put it. But this is a cool pop record, full of somewhat magical touches of chord-progression, mainly, that sneak up on you. Mildly magical, you have to really listen. It seems like Krauss had some kind of strategy akin to what she does when she covers pop songs?
I have this Anne McCue record right here--I need to listen, I guess. I'm still into Tony Joe White--"Mama, Don't Let Your Cowboys Grow Up to Be Babies," with Waylon, from '80. "I Thought I Knew You Well," his most pop moment--his most American Studios-crafted song, sort of like a really good Box Tops record. Better, probably. And the strangest one, "Old Man Willis," where Old Man W. is a crazed redneck--bootlegger? white-slaver?--and ends up *killing* his entire family, in between driving too fast and drinking. (Anybody who wants a burn of this TJW comp, let me know--Tony Joe as Swamp-Monster Pervert.)
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 10 September 2006 12:36 (eighteen years ago) link
here is my review of the dixie chicks:
Dixie Chicks Taking the Long Way Around Columbia2006
I have been listening to this pretty steady, for weeks, at least once a day, and have heard the singles and videos before that, and no opinion has come to dominate my thoughts. There is a lot here, and some listens I am willing to condemn it as pretentiously self absorbed and some listens it’s the album of the year, better than the album of the y ear, best protest album since Free Wheeling Bob Dylan. Obviously it is none of those things, or at least none of those things fully contain the albums difficult significance. Some of he difficulty comes with such lofty thoughts as the role of the artist in times of war, and sometimes I think, its been six years, why can’t these three just get over themselves.
It’s probably more productive to talk about what I love here, at least initially. Academically, I love that there is a major, non indie, non alternative country artist not only talking about the difficulties with the president but with the whole red state culture of viscous misogyny, hatred, and war mongering. There anti-romantic odes against small towns have a refreshing vitriol, the first lines of the first song, talk about how “my friends from high school, married their high school boyfriends, moved into houses, in the same ZIP codes where their parents live. But I could never follow.” That rebel yell of urban and nomadic tendencies is something that country needs to hear.
It also needs to hear Lubbock or Leave it where she rolls quick and angry saying that the bible belt never saved her, refusing the pressure to be a good Christian, and tearing about the hypocrisy of certain American religious practices. It’s the most anti jesus song ive heard with a bluegrass backing, especially when lines like “the secrets you hide behind your southern hospitality on the strip the kids get it, so they can have a real good time come Sunday they can just take their pick from the crucifix skyline…” spit nails.
Aside from the politics, there are moments of profound beauty. Sometimes Maine sings lower and darker then the material calls for and it has the effect of whispering in a din. People are forced to bend over, and listen to what is being said. Though they have been doing this for ages, especially in their cover of Landslide, they have perfected it in Lullaby. When she sings, “How long do you want to be loved? Is forever enough? Is forever enough? “, it gives off the same feeling as Brian Wilson singing “may not always love you/ But long as there are stars above you/ You never need to doubt it/Ill make you so sure about it” . There are other examples: the sharp wail of Silent House, the rueful mourning of Favorite Year, co-written by Sheryl Crow, post cancer and post Lance, the introductory notes of pedal steel, like a heart beat on I Like it, and the sultry, jazz tempos of the last song, I Hope, another about the hypocrisy of the south.
That said, there is much here that cannot be recommended. There is a core of self-righteousness here, a hectoring quality to the lyrics, like they know what is right for America, and the hectoring comes without the humor or self-deprecation or force of other writers who do this. If you are trying to tell the world how to live, whining about it is not the most effective way about it. The first single, Not Ready to Make Nice, claims to be “mad as hell”, but just sounds petulant. It is incredibly self absorbed in places, as well—for example in Easy Silence, an ode to a lover who’s only purpose is to provide refuge for all the mean people who haven’t been very nice to the Chicks. On Everybody Knows, they become paranoid to such a degree, it seems almost clinical, and on So Hard, they talk about how painful it is to be Cassandra’s.
Its been six years since they talked about being ashamed of the president, and in those 6 years, they have been threatened with death, rape, and losing careers. They have had their albums pulled from radio stations bull dozed, and boycotted. They have been slandered in the national press, and been slimed by people who refused their talent. They had to have recorded this album with all of this in mind, and part of me is glad that they replied to their critics with genuine emotion. Being self-absorbed is understandable under the current circumstances, if a little boring in places.
I think being so conflicted about the work in question is a good thing, it refuses easy and simple categorizations, cheap politics and cheaper theatrics. They have broken from the Nashville ghetto, and I’m excited what happens next, and that’s something I cannot say about many bands.
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 10 September 2006 13:10 (eighteen years ago) link
There's a feature by me on Anne McCue in the new ND. She can really play guitar and her songwriting is getting better. The album is too long and not the total breakthrough I was hoping for--but close. Grooves ala TJW or post-blues Fleetwood Mac are ace.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 10 September 2006 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link
and I agree w/ roy, anthony--what's the nashville "ghetto"? they got too much money to call it a ghetto. plus, they made their bush comments in early '03.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 10 September 2006 15:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 10 September 2006 18:13 (eighteen years ago) link
So what do people here think of Chris Knight? Enough Rope sounds like I'd like it okay if a more lively singer was singing, which suggests to me the guy's got Steve Earle disease. (Also, I'm guessing they're both Clash fans, judging from Knight's title.) As is, it's real clunky. Xgau is a fan*. the Am i missing something?
*: http://robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?id=255&name=Chris+Knight
Enjoying the new Redhill album, which stretches out their EP nicely. And I'm finding more stuff than I expected to like on the new Trace Adkins -- "Ladies Love Country Boys," "I Came Here To Live," and especially "The Stubbon One" have good (if sometimes predictable) specifics in their lyrics, and he sure sings better than Knight does.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 10 September 2006 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 10 September 2006 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Monday, 11 September 2006 05:39 (eighteen years ago) link
i have given it a couple of listens, its slippery, and i dont think ive given it enough space
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 11 September 2006 05:48 (eighteen years ago) link
just thought I'd mention this LP I got: Jerry Reed and Chet Akins, "Me and Jerry," from '70. Covers of shit like "MacArthur Park" and "Wreck of the John B." as well as the really good stuff, Jerry 'n' Chester just hangin' out on some jazzy instrumentals (the whole thang is instrumental, but the covers are weird) like "Stump Water" and "Cannonball Rag." I mean I like the Duhks but this is really world music. Plus, on the cover, Chet is sitting back waiting for Jerry to change the tire on his convertible.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 11 September 2006 07:57 (eighteen years ago) link
I was very pleased to find a version on a Waylon 2-for-1 I bought cheap the other week. The quality surprised me, I'd never paid much attention to WJ before.
― Tim (Tim), Monday, 11 September 2006 08:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Monday, 11 September 2006 09:31 (eighteen years ago) link
And the "...after all the loves of my life, you'll still be the one" bit is heartbreaking in every version I've heard.
― Tim (Tim), Monday, 11 September 2006 09:56 (eighteen years ago) link
So, I think Alan Jackson's record is just so sly; what it reminds me of, strangely enough, is John Cale's "Paris 1919." The slide guitar and the air of things recollected at a distance; in fact, Cale seemed peripheral to Europe or whatever the fuck he was singing about then, and so does Jackson to the South, somehow. Myth, which puts him into Haggard territory. What I really like about the record are the musical details, the singing is fine but I have to concentrate more to get what his relationship to his wild youth. It's mythical, so when he sings about the devil sitting there with a grin, that registers, sure, but it's the little guitar figure you remember.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 11 September 2006 12:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 11 September 2006 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Monday, 11 September 2006 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link
The Glen Campbell - Jimmy Webb LP is magnificent, yes, and yes it's art countrypop: JW's writing at its best is this odd mixture of smart and dumb which I find enormously charming. The country is more of a flavour than a foundation stone, but it is there. An interesting point of comparison is "Watermark" the LP Art Garfunkel made arond the same time, using mostly Webb songs. "Watermark" is also a brilliant record, but much more of a yachtpop proposition than the Campbell. It also has the distinction of being extremely easy to find in the £1 bins, always a bonus.
Even close followers of Glen tend to admit that his LPs in the late 70s and early 80s tended to have only the odd gem, and often the gem turned out to be a Jimmy Webb tune: "Highwayman", "Cristiaan, No", marvellous stuff there.
As for Jimmy's solo LPs, their success depends fairly heavily on your ability to acquire the taste for his voice. Probably, your best bet is to get the "Archive" best of (esp the new expanded version with the Live At The Albert Hall CD, which may be UK-only, I'm not sure). It's really well-compiled and covers most of the goodies from the albums.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 08:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 09:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 10:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 10:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Rudy Wontfail (dow), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link
I dunno, Gary Bennett's record is nice, but it's the singing that drags me a bit. R.S. Field's production is ace, however. I like it fine, wish he'd gotten a bit more down and dirty.
And shit, I never thought I'd say this, but Alan Jackson really made something like a great album, his new one. Or Alison Krauss did. It kinda got stuck in my head and I have to hear the first 5-6 songs daily--"Fire Flys"especially is just ingenious. Operates in the realm of the everyday uncanny or something like that--Alan Jackson don't even have to try but he's trying here to do something he perceives he needs to try to do, and almost not tries and succeeds. "Sometimes less is more," he sings. I'm impressed.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 12 September 2006 22:10 (eighteen years ago) link
The song is so over wrought and over the top, and camp theatrical...
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 10:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 16:04 (eighteen years ago) link
Carlene CarterCharlie LouvinTony Joe WhiteRay Wylie HubbardJoy Lynn WhiteHacienda Bros.Abigail WashburnAmy LaVereDale WatsonThe DuhksJames McMurtryJames Hunter
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 18:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link
(Any tips for good shows Saturday - Tuesday much appreciated btw, though I don't have any idea of how my time there's going to work.)
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 14 September 2006 11:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 14 September 2006 20:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Friday, 15 September 2006 04:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Friday, 15 September 2006 05:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Friday, 15 September 2006 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 16 September 2006 13:29 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.deadog.com/page/DDR/PROD/dwva/PCD-7019a
http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE67818DE4EAD7E20C79A3A40CDAD67FD1BFE5AFB86112F0456D3B82D40AF1844C34FA39A81B8E574B266ADFF2EA2160ED1C0EC57F6D8612D5DF0&sql=10:pr1ibk09fakz
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 16 September 2006 15:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 16 September 2006 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link
http://billboard.com/bbcom/reviews/album_review_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003122625
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 16 September 2006 16:11 (eighteen years ago) link
http://harpmagazine.com/guides/contributors/detail.cfm?id=527
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 16 September 2006 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link
I've pre-ordered that Alan Jackson Cd. I'm very happy to hear he's made a great album, I loved "Drive".
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 16 September 2006 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 16 September 2006 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 16 September 2006 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 16 September 2006 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 16 September 2006 22:07 (eighteen years ago) link
"tragedy of you," last track on the otherwise blues-punk EP by the bones (from louisiana), is on now and is calling you an asshole and dickhead and reminding me of shooter jennings. here's their page:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=7483383
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 16 September 2006 22:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 16 September 2006 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 17 September 2006 01:56 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 17 September 2006 05:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 17 September 2006 08:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 17 September 2006 09:06 (eighteen years ago) link
nah, actually, the bones guy is even worse singer. probably reminds me more of some long-lost proto-alt-country cowpunk band i can place right now. but i like it okay. the band's blues-punk gunk is better, partly because it pushes harder. weird how much a sucker i still am for silly ancient backwoods birthday party/gun club shtick when i've never been all that big a fan of those two bands. (honestly, i don't own a single album by either of them, haven't in years, though once upon a time i did.) also "bulge" on the bones EP reminds me of one of those sub-fall late '80s british art-punk bands i used to like so much: three johns or janitors or membranes or somebody of that ilk.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 17 September 2006 12:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 17 September 2006 12:42 (eighteen years ago) link
A question for our Canadian correspondents: Any thoughts about Matt Mays & El Torpedo, who if I recall the press bio have had three top 20 hits in the great white north this year? Press bio also compared them to Tom Petty w/ Heartbreakers and Neil Young w/ Crazy Horse, I think. I guess I'm sort of hearing it, I dunno. Song on now is called "Cocaine Cowgirl." Matt's voice is not nearly as distinctive as Neil's or Tom's, I'm thinking so far. But his songs do appear to have some degree of drama to them. Maybe he deserves to be lumped in with recent Drive By Truckers? He's not bugging me as much as DBT's have on their past couple of albums, but maybe that just means my expectations are lower. None of this tracks are killing me, either.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 17 September 2006 13:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 17 September 2006 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link
On the live album? Sure he does, Don - I mention it in the review.
do all the Harp reviews have to be that short
Well, most of their regular reviews (except the lead one) seem short, but mine run in the print edition as a separate page known as "Last Roundup," sort of consumer-guide-like but without grades and not alphabetically ordered. So I tended to write them short to fit more albums on the page -- That was my own choice. (I wrote four such columns, two of which have run so far in the magazine.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 17 September 2006 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 18 September 2006 12:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Monday, 18 September 2006 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a3uPZ97AXU
― Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 01:12 (eighteen years ago) link
Haha, she sucks.
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 01:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 03:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 04:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 04:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, Don, heard the Costello/Toussaint. The DVD is the thing, actually, because you get to see Toussaint and Elv riding thru NOLA together. I find the record good, but as usual, why do I want to listen to Costello when I can listen to Lee Dorsey? But he does sing OK. I am probably going to sit thru all that crap at the Americana thing so I can hear Toussaint. Also going to catch, I hope, Carlene Carter late tonite, and there are a couple other things I want to explore. I guess Costello's gonna be there, too.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 12:38 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 19:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 21 September 2006 00:04 (eighteen years ago) link
LOL
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 21 September 2006 00:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 22 September 2006 04:41 (eighteen years ago) link
Ever hear that bizarre album he did for Casablanca in 1980, THE REAL THANG?
To call it, this was a strange, one-year-too-late attempt to jump on the disco bandwagon (this was well after the whole "disco sucks" movement had come & gone); when I interviewed TJW some time back, he referred to it as "techno swamp." But you know what? It turns out good in spite of itself; his attempt to go disco is so backhanded, it comes off sounding like Lightnin' Hopkins making a southern soul record, and that is a good thang indeed. He wouldn't have gotten past the velvet rope at Studio 54 with a record like this, but Bobby Rush fans would love it.
It even includes a new version of "Polk Salad Annie" with a reference to pot-smoking during the spoken intro (Tony Joe also told me that when he used to play at rock festivals during the hippie era, audiences thought that polk salad was another name for marijuana.)
― Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Saturday, 23 September 2006 04:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Saturday, 23 September 2006 07:13 (eighteen years ago) link
What is this comp you speak of, and how does disco relate to Elvis' version of "Polk Salad Annie?"
― Rev. Hoodoo (Rev. Hoodoo), Saturday, 23 September 2006 12:23 (eighteen years ago) link
americana: got a couple things to turn around today, but quickly, the best things i saw were hayes carll and jim lauderdale and ray wylie hubbard at this showcase where they all do one song and it's just like the bluebird café. hayes really has a country voice. he did a great one about this hotel where a former ramblin' gamblin' man is living by himself, in the middle of nowhere, and he's crippled or something so he can't leave. very spooky, nice, and hayes seems to me to have a real feel for that kind of thing. and a song from his "little rock" album. ray w.h. was incredible, funny, did "snake farm" about how much fun it is to fuck amongst snakes and so forth, and proved himself perhaps the greatest living or the last living talking-blues performer. good guitar, actually, proto-modal-blooze-non-lick/lick stuff. he had everybody laughing. lauderdale did a soul-ish ballad he wrote and one he wrote for george jones, and sang the latter sort of like jones. he's not a bad singer but he ain't jones.
hacienda bros. were entertaining, competent, and they did make the journey from cowboy music to soul in their set, wore cowboy hats, the guitarist sounded like he'd been studying his american studios guitar playing. good, nothing too heavy. dan penn was supposed to play but he only did a *bridge* with the brothers! we all missed it! cary baker had a picture of it on his digital camera, said "here, see, he played," and we're like, fuck, we missed it.
tres chicas was a buzz thing. personally i think they are nice girls, and goddam the mercy lounge was crowded for them, and they sounded like the byrds. the laggy tempos, chiming guitars, the affectless harmonies. i found it overrated and antiseptic. they sounded like the byrds, fairport convention--electric folk-rock of the high-minded variety circa 1968.
it was just too crowded in there, at those clubs on eighth ave. s., at some point. for me, anyway. i can't stay up late enough to see carlene carter, who started at 12-30 or something like that. heard she was good, good band, got a record coming out.
solomon burke was supposed to give off love in a meet-greet, but he did not show. he's playing the belcourt here for a taping, soon, and he has described the buddy miller record and sessions he did here as real relaxed, perhaps to a fault, with emmylou harris baking him cookies and everybody just pickin'. like he needs a cookie. i dunno, i like "nashville" by burke but it doesn't knock me out. he sings OK and there are certainly good songs. with joe tex dead and swamp dogg not makin' the goddam americana-fest, and gram parsons feared missing in the big hurricane that just wiped out new orleans well and for good, nothing's as fun as it used to be.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 23 September 2006 13:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 23 September 2006 14:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 23 September 2006 17:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Saturday, 23 September 2006 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link
Other goings on included idiotic panels about Americana Image Makeover and booking agents telling people that it's not worth touring Europe cause you can make just as much in the lower 40. WTF. Evening showcase pleasures included Anne McCue, nervous but intense, covering Tony Joe White, right before he took the stage to descend fully into the primal blues ooze; Scott Miller loud as fuck; Carlene Carter looking sexy for having put on about 30 pounds and rocking and singing strong despite a meh band; a bracing solo James Hunter set in the Internet Cafe lounge; and a 1:30am set by Ray Wylie Hubbard, backed up by Seth James and Gary Nicholson on mean cat guitars, hilarious and iconoclastic without ever trying to be more than he is.
I'd go again, just for the free smokes all week. Santa Fe Natural Tobacco Co. pretty much subsidized my trip. Next time, Edd, we have to hang at the after hours hospitality suite. Open bar till 4am.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 24 September 2006 00:39 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 24 September 2006 04:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 24 September 2006 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 24 September 2006 20:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Friday, 29 September 2006 11:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Saturday, 30 September 2006 04:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 30 September 2006 05:24 (eighteen years ago) link
listening to sliding on the frets, the hawaiian guitar collection, there are several tracks where the volacaztions move from something hawaiian to something either bluesy (oscar woods here) or bluegrassy (the blue ridge ramblerS), or strangely enough yodelling (the jaw dropping bezos hawaiian orhestra, singing sti honoloou(sp)...
i know that there was a hawaiiana craze in the southern united states (well in all of the united states in the 20s and 30s), and i know that the steel guitar came to country thru that craze, and the linear notes make some tennous connectections b/w blue grass, native hawiaan music, and the blues, among other things, so:
1) does anyone know anymroe of this history2) how did hawaiian guitar become so popular in appalichia3) did the work function the opposite way, is there a wakiki blue grass scene4) w/ ww2, statehood, and the like, i understand the hawaiiana craze from the mid 50s, but have no idea where it came from the 20s or so?5) also, does anyone know where else i can here this kind of thing
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 30 September 2006 09:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 30 September 2006 12:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 30 September 2006 12:12 (eighteen years ago) link
dierks covering barbara's alleged "fast lanes and country roads" now. it rocks.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 30 September 2006 12:15 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 30 September 2006 12:17 (eighteen years ago) link
http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=ADFEAEE67818DE4EAD7E20C79A3A40CDAD67FD1BFE5AFB86112F0456D3B82D40AF1844C34FA39A81B8E576B466ADFF2EA21606D9C8EF5CFDDB764C40&sql=11:6gjveaw04xg7~T5
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 30 September 2006 12:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 30 September 2006 12:25 (eighteen years ago) link
how hard is it to find the box set on ebay or something?
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 30 September 2006 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Also great on the (potentially eddy 2006 top ten) mandrell tribute: leann rimes's over-the-top adult r&b "if loving you is wrong i don't want to be right" (apparently previously sung by bobby blue bland, the drifters, isaac hayes, luther ingram, the emotions, and most significantly in mandrell's case millie jackson -- she did other millie j. songs too, right? though i doubt she ever sat on a toilet taking a dumb on an LP cover); terri clark's rocking "sleeping single in a double bed"; blaine larsen's very jazzily western swinging "i wish that i could fall in love today." wow. (paisley's sabbath/blondie rhythm track turns out mainly to be a hard boogie.)
also, bruce's "stand on it" wasn't done by mac mcanaly (whoever he is -- i've heard he's good but not sure i've ever heard him); it was done by mel mcdaniel. i always get those two mixed up, but mcdaniel (of "louisiana saturday night" fame) is the one whose best-of album i was retarded to have gotten rid of once upon a time. (xgau's '80s book gives the LP with "stand on it" a B; the greatest hits a B+.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 30 September 2006 13:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 30 September 2006 14:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 30 September 2006 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, Kenny Chesney talks about "Jack and Diane" (along with Steve Miller's "Keep On Rockin' Me Baby" --that's what he calls it; what is it really, just "Rockin' Me"? -- and Billy Joel's "Only The Good Die Young") in "Live Those Songs." That's one. (The Leather Nun talk about "Pink Houses" in "Pink House," but they probably don't count.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 30 September 2006 14:24 (eighteen years ago) link
ha, basically who it totally sounds like (except with a girl singing) is Rednex! (Was their "Cotton Eyed Joe" a two-step hit in the U.S., or only a techno dance hit in Europe? Now I need to know.)
Now Bomshel's totally unnecessary but perfectly entertaining "Devil Went Down to Georgia" cover is making me wonder about apparent non-sequiturs I never gave a moment's worth of thought to before:
"The devil's in the house of the rising sun": I'm assuming this means the whorehouse itself, and is hence a moral warning? Except the house is in New Orleans, and he's in Georgia. Dude gets around!
"Chicken's in the bed pan, pickin' out dough." Or at least that's what it sounds like. I guess it would make perfect sense if you work in a bakery. But what does it have to do with the rest of the song? Was Charlie appropriating an ancient square dance call, or what?
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 30 September 2006 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Saturday, 30 September 2006 22:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Saturday, 30 September 2006 23:44 (eighteen years ago) link
i still owe you jason mccoy (and edd, and someone else) aargh busy
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 1 October 2006 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGrqW3nx5HM
it occurs to me that bombsel MIGHT be attempting a female version of big n rich's dual-harmony disco-country concept, in a way. their harmonies, if in fact they exist, are pretty close though. unless it's just one of the bombshell multi-tracked, i'm not sure yet.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 1 October 2006 00:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 1 October 2006 00:15 (eighteen years ago) link
looking thru my sqaure dance books, i found something called the chicken reel but nothing with the line, chicken in the bread pan, picking up dough
http://www.ceder.net/choreo/patter_sayings.php4 but this song claims the two lines are:
Chicken in the bread pan pickin' out doughBig pig rootin' up the little tater now.
Chicken in the bread pan scratching out gravel,get your maid & away you travel.
so i was right, but i dont have the dance patterns
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 1 October 2006 07:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― anthony easton (anthony), Sunday, 1 October 2006 07:47 (eighteen years ago) link
"Country music definitely re-enforces redneck sister-fucking, whiskey-drinking, big-truck, cowboy retard stereotype as much as Yin Yang twins promote chicken-lovin, monkey-actin, small brained jigs. "
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 1 October 2006 12:33 (eighteen years ago) link
This guy seems pretty smart, though:
Dr Flav Says:
September 24th, 2006 at 1:45 pm Divide and conquer is what is abound. Folk on here talking about racial stereotypes, while using slurrs thats really proactive. The negative context of minstrel shows came from whites applying blackface and exploiting and using thier act to copy or ridicule blacks with talent. This was a case of wanting to enjoy black entertainment, as long as there were not any real blacks around. You can see later how these black influences later appeared in their dances, music and speech.
September 24th, 2006 at 2:02 pm A minstrel is a poor entertainer who performs for income, the musician, dancer, mime, poet or singer with a cup on the street could be considered a minstrel. I really find it ignorant for some to base the culture and intelligence of a whole group, based on the actions of a few entertainers, whom acting a fool for comedic value in an apparently on purpose manner. They are making a choice on how to express themselves through their medium. Do you think these people function in this manner all during their daily functions? If you do, who is really an ignorant fool.
September 24th, 2006 at 2:11 pm Dont you find it odd, that the black people in region of this country that has taken the biggest and most severe forms of racism is accused of perpetuating racial stereotypes? Do you not think we have a firm grasp on what is truly harmful to not just us, but all people of color in this country?
September 24th, 2006 at 2:26 pm Now its north vs south, with the north being most critical of music that if you used an unbiased analytical ear you will hear similar influences universally. Why must the aspiring efforts of others be ostrasiced because of your particular taste? Its one thing to be critical, but being contemptuous toward your own is new improved bigotry. Fact is, we are free people, we can dance, talk, eat and express ourselves without fear or worry of what others think, is this not America?
September 24th, 2006 at 2:41 pm Finally, with all this talk about a drag queen cooking chicken, a teenager bragging about a chain and children making up a funny named dance, where is the criticism of the murder, drug dealing, drug using, violence and irresponsibility that has been present in the hip hop music of all regions for over two decades? I sense their are hypocrites with an agenda pushing this southern hate. They dont have to like our music, its enough of us that buy it, but this character assassination of general southern is a problem and can become a problem to northern people who visit and live here in the south, who wants to interact with someone who feels like that towards you?
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 1 October 2006 12:46 (eighteen years ago) link
http://blackademics.org/2006/09/25/everybody-want-a-piece-of-my-chicken/
Allyson makes some good points here; several other people do not.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 1 October 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link
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― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 19:57 (eighteen years ago) link
New McMurtry sequel to "We Can't Make It Here" on his website isn't so hot.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 21:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 22:31 (eighteen years ago) link
Chris Young's "I'm Headed Your Way Jose" has a pretty neat conceipt -- come on up here and take my house and Chevrolet since I'm headed down there where things are better anyway and I'll give you a high five at the border -- though Chris seems somewhat deluded, needless to say, about what Jose's life down there is like. Though maybe the delusion is built into the song. Or maybe Chris's point is that his life down there would be better than Jose's is now, I'm not sure...
Rest of his album is seeming okay; kinda pedestrian, but then again I thought that about Trent Willmon's album at first (see above), and I was wrong. I'm in no rush, though; I'll definitely give it time.
Lost Trailers album, I decided, is this year's answer to the last (third) (only good) Warren Brothers album. Whatever that might mean. Either way, it's a keeper -- pretty consistent, if never quite great.
Spady Brannon's album is yet another lifeless songwriter demo tape.
And did I mention that Bomshel go into an amusing "the barn, the barn, the barn is on fire" chant in their stomp? Well, now I did.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 5 October 2006 11:22 (eighteen years ago) link
I think I found the Chris Young song interesting because it's from acountry artist. When I saw the title I kind of cringed, thinking it was either the millionth iteration of the "I'm going to Mexico to drink you off my mind" or some gimmicky red meat for the Build-a-Wall folks.
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Thursday, 5 October 2006 22:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 5 October 2006 22:56 (eighteen years ago) link
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― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Saturday, 7 October 2006 00:27 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r0aHQdA6Vg
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 8 October 2006 02:05 (eighteen years ago) link
I found Chris Young's record pretty lame--he has no resonance in his voice, and sounds to me like a halfway good guy who won a talent competition...wait...and the backing, when you compare it to the best stuff this year, is stiff, predictable. the one where the family reunion gets crazy, owing to moonshine and granny slurring her words and the Gators and UT fans fighting, and then the park ranger comes in to break it up (see ya'll all next year!), that's a good idea. "José" strikes me as plain stupid, I mean "Everybody's talking about the aliens invading/While I'm saving every dime for a Mexican vacation." I admire this kind of...avidity, that is maybe the word, in the young man, and certainly, my heaven includes but is not limited to "hot women and cheap beer." Again, I kind of like the idea and far be it from me to warn anyone away from a trip to our sister country and all that. But he's just not much of a performer; and I find the obvious thinking behind this song--"Chris is as concerned about illegal immigration as anyone in Nashville, and he thought it would just be fun to defuse the situation with a little humor"--typical.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 8 October 2006 13:04 (eighteen years ago) link
Kelefa's reaction: "great".
My reaction: Not as terrible as I'd feared.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:48 (eighteen years ago) link
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/music/article/0,2792,DRMN_54_5020454,00.html
- TK in "rock 'n' roll is dead" shocker- TK in "lifelong registered democrat" bigger shocker.- TK in sympathy with the tough life the likes of Sammy Hagar and Bon Jovi have in the modern world non-shocker.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 12 October 2006 13:56 (eighteen years ago) link
My brother bought me the Solomon Burke LP the other day, which was nice of him . I was a bit concerned it was going to be a horrible Unplugged / Later with Jools Holland reverencefest but it's not (all) like that. Oddly the best bits are when SB reins it in and doesn't overdo the King of Rock n Soul thing. The Emmylou song in particular's very fine, perhaps the secret to getting SB to make great records is to keep the cookie jar well-stocked.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 12 October 2006 14:02 (eighteen years ago) link
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In other news, I have decided that I like both the Eric Church album and its single about over-the-counter pregnancy tests a lot, that I like the Chris Young album much more than Edd Hurt does (the family reunion song always makes me think of if John Anderson covered Chuck Berry's wedding song "You Never Can Tell," though Chris doesn't really sing like Jawn; "Center Of My World" has the same melody as Shooter Jennings' "4th of July" despite being a lot sappier; the price of gas song is better than the one on Billy Ray Cyrus's new album; "Burn" is great too and "Lay It On Me" is a good fast boogie woogie -- so yeah, he's pro forma, but still more fun than any Randy Travis or George Strait in recent memory); the new Billy Ray Cyrus album is pretty good anyway (the gas song and mullet song are completely shameles in great achy breaky tradition and "Lonely Wins" is basically John Cougar's "Lonely Old Night" with new words and the duet with Miley is very nice and "It Wouldn't Be Me" sounds exactly either like some great Glen Campbell song or some great song by somebody else that reminded me of Glen Campbell once); and Trace Adkins is probably a despicable asshole (though his line about the first ammendment protecting you against the government but not his fist still cracks me up) but his new album is good enough to keep regardless thanks to its two shameless disco-country songs and "The Stubborn One," which is awesome, not to mention about his grandpa.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 11:29 (eighteen years ago) link
decided that the great song on new Montgomery Gentry is "A Man's Job," because it's the funniest. "Redder" strikes me as pretty dumb, since they talk about celebrating redneckdom, "don't get redder than that" but they never really come out and say what it is they're doing to be so red. What I've found interesting about MG, listening to their old records again with the new one and having interviewed Eddie last week, is the way they do twin guitars like in the old days, and how adventurous they can be, musically. What I find sort of offputting, as always, are those choruses, like the title song on the new one. "Here's to the strong/Here's to the brave/Against all odds/Against the grain." Kind of stupid compared to the rest of the song, which I quite like. "Free Ride," the last song, is also a good one. I like them but can't take them for very long. Wait, "having too much fun and laughing too loud all night" is how they show their "country class/ass." I dunno, I mean this convenience store I stop at, at the top of the ridge going up from Nashville, is a real, er, redneck place, and man are those folks fucking loud--a real extended-family-clan-affirmation thing on a really loud level, around about 5:15 in the afternoon. I don't think I could be that loud if I tried, although these folks have the virtue of being extremely direct; they have a direct, penetrating gaze. That's who M-G are singing about, and they get it. But as with Chris Young, I guess, they seem to me able to benefit from more detail in their lyrics, which is why I fucking love "A Man's Job" on the new MG; great music, great lope, and they sing it really well and it's funny. (Eddie, I think, found my comment about the great use of "boy toy" in this one real amusing. And he was a bit coached, but seemed totally sincere when he talked about how his dad used this black gospel group and horns to play country clubs in Ky. back in the '60s and '70s.)
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 23:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 19 October 2006 09:40 (eighteen years ago) link
I gotta say I don't hear this at all, and I honestly have no idea what Edd's talking about here. To me Young just sounds like a pop-country singer with a good voice. He has no problem putting songs over. Then again, I don't watch many talent shows, so what do I know?
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 10:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 10:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 19 October 2006 10:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Thursday, 19 October 2006 11:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Thursday, 19 October 2006 11:15 (eighteen years ago) link
and that's one great thing about carrie underwood's record: it's perfectly paced. the songs seem constructed to show off his range, too, like when he goes for "lonely" in "drinkin' me lonely." but yeah, I admit it's a pretty good simulation of travis or someone like that, and it does seem I am in the minority in not liking the record--michael mccall here likes it a lot, and he also likes the mindy smith record, which I can't work up any emotion about.
I dug around a bit and found out that what Troy Gentry is in trouble for in Minn. isn't so much killing Chubby the Bear, but tagging it supposedly illegally and sending the hide back to a taxidermist; Chubby now hangs in Troy's Franklin house. It seems like Troy got some allegedly bad advice from the guy who was his guide up there.
And I guess shooting a bear seems like just a big job I don't want to undertake. (Like getting a talent-show singer up to speed for a record, natch. And maybe that's the whole thing with Chris: it sounds a lot like work to me.) In fact, it seems like a nightmare. I'm the kind of guy who swerves to miss a fucking squirrel in the highway, so shooting a bear named Chubby...apparently, violating the federal Lacey Act brings stiff penalties, and apparently Troy's having a jury trial in Duluth in about 5 weeks.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 19 October 2006 14:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 19 October 2006 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 19 October 2006 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 19 October 2006 21:00 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, 4 CD set of new material by Vince Gill. Why?
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Friday, 20 October 2006 11:58 (eighteen years ago) link
Could be Buddy Cannon's production, which seems flat and undefined to me. I think it's the drum sound. He did, if I recall rightly, the one Sara Evans record I don't like, because of the production.
Did anybody else notice that the new M-Gentry record has 1) really good graphics, I think 2) they don't list *any* writers' credits that I see, which is right unusual for a Nashville record?
And anybody heard the new Keith Urban? I think I'm getting a watermarked copy, had to convince them I'm not working the "Paducah and Carbondale corridor," as Colbert and Randy Newman amusingly spoke of in a recent episode that had Newman completely up for Colbert's fine (but sometimes annoying) switcheroo-bullshit act. And not going to make bootleg knockoffs with a nudie pic of Nicole crudely placed on cheap paper. (If you can somehow catch that Colbert Reporr episode again--it ran maybe 10-14 days ago, it's a good one, not least because Newman *sang* "Political Science" as it ended.)
I haven't gotten or heard that Gill. Smart people have told me it's suprisingly good, apparently he does a whole disc of what was described to me as "swamp pop." He's a good damn guitar player, is the thing, a talented guy indeed. And he's got Amy, sweet Amy...
Decided I quite liked the Gary Bennett record. One-time minor leaguer who had to take a job at Home Depot (apparently he did), drinks too much, doesn't like turning 40. Great sound, and I think the record works well as an entity, if a bit depressing on rainy days.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 20 October 2006 19:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Saturday, 21 October 2006 00:06 (eighteen years ago) link
Some People ChangeMichael Dulaney, Jason Sellers, Neil Thrasher
Hey CountryBart Allmand, Danny Myrick, Jeffrey Steele
Lucky ManDavid Cory Lee, Dave Turnbull
Takes All KindsMichael Dulaney, Troy Gentry, Neil Thrasher
Your Tears Are Comin'Tom Hambridge, Jeffrey Steele
CloudsEddie Montgomery, Tony Mullins, Jeffrey Steele
Twenty Years AgoGary Nicholson, Rivers Rutherford, Jeffrey Steele
What Do Ya Think About ThatBrett Jones, Anthony Smith
Redder Than ThatRivers Rutherford, George Teren
Man's JobGary Hannan, Eddie Montgomery, Phil O'Donnell, Thom Shepherd
If You Wanna Keep an AngelTroy Gentry, Rivers Rutherford, Tom Shapiro
Free Ride in the Fast LaneHouston Robert, Rivers Rutherford, George Teren
(Allmusic did mention Mark Wright as having a hand in the production, and Wright is generally excellent.)
Have heard only the title song. Doesn't hit me nearly as hard as it seems to be knocking over everyone else; well sung, well played, surely, hazy wah-wah against precise chording, and I'd be surprised if the Chesney version were as good (never heard it); but this is slow, and the chorus carries a heavy wall of rock sound not unlike late '70s Springsteen (Edd mentioned the Springsteen connection upthread), which just isn't my favorite style. Not nearly as alive and fun as "She Couldn't Change Me." Change schmange. And as for the message of life transformation, this song goes through motions that "Jesus Take the Wheel" does for real. On the other hand, the gospel choir at the end actually lifts the music - I'd almost call it exciting, and I'm generally a hater of gospel choirs in rock songs. The choir in "Like a Prayer" is one of the few others I can tolerate. I'll probably like the album - MG are my favorite band of the '00s (unless you count Ying Yang Twins as a band, and come to think of it, YYT are probably as much a band or not a band as the Montgumbos).
I was just listening to "Some People Change" on Launch Yahoo, and - since I'm on their Spanish language site 'cause it has fewer and better-sounding commercials - which has now tossed Belinda's great "Angel" at me. Talk about knowing how to do melodrama. Someday one of these country bands simply has to go and record in Mexico.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 23 October 2006 01:17 (eighteen years ago) link
did a critic pick on chris young for the scene; he's participating in this "broadway meets country" benefit at tn.perf. arts ctr. next wk., where people like him, raul malo, etc., sing b-way toonz and the broadway cats go country. it's part of the big leadup to CMA awards here, and in its second year. anyway, I think he can sing just fine, in fact he's quite good, but those fucking songs on that record (his own "drinkin' me lonely" and one or two others are real good, though) were my problem, and buddy cannon's production, which just sounds dated to me. I mean that song about wanting to move to mexico, hard as I try to get into the mindset, if I can use that odious word, that created it, just makes me arf. really disgraceful. if they'll get me in, I'd love to see what he does with other material; and seems to me he shoulda made a record like jamey johnson's. and, turns out young has been trying, had been trying, to get into music even before the nash star stuff, and his dad was sort of in the bizness.
nashville songwriting is such a weird animal, undeniably professional, but wearying. "some people change" is a decent example; it seems to lose its way in that chorus, which drives me nuts, and the song is *everywhere* on the radio here now, giving away the CD, and all that. they have to relate everything to some big emotion and some perceived audience, and of course to the War Effort and the Heroes in Iraq. I mean fuck, I feel for those guys, who wouldn't, and having recently shepherded a couple of friends thru their AA traumas, which are no laughing matter, I guess beating the booze is "heroic," but that chorus is still just Bad Art. it's almost a great song, is the thing, and as frank says, I think the gospel choruses are a good idea. (country seems to be using them more as Signifier of Soul, just like every country record has got to have a song about Dropping My Load and Moving to Sunny Mexico.) but shit, these guys truly maximize Southern rock as effectively as anyone I can think of, and "free ride in fast lane" is pretty great, as is "hey country." which is one of the best songs about being not quite working class I know; very savvy about their audience, and I love the detail where the old boy in the song is working at the auto-repair shop and sometimes they let 'im work on a fan belt or whatever it is--he's a stoner, still, and tends to, uh, forget what the haill he's doing, completely ruint mr. gentry's lexus so we learnt a lesson there. but a good ol' boy, just still thinks he's in high school and he's 27. also, perhaps their most big and rich -influenced song on the record? in short, the m-gentry record ought to be licensed for continuous play at every highschool reunion ('80s) from here to wichita.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 23 October 2006 13:03 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Monday, 23 October 2006 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link
*Marion's is an EP, six songs, three new, three from the Atlantic alb that was never released here; she's concentrating on the rockers rather than the Max Martins, unfortunately. She's basically transforming herself into an L.A. rocker chick. Meat Loaf's duet with her is in the British Top Ten right now.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 23 October 2006 18:34 (eighteen years ago) link
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― little pink strips for you and me (dow), Monday, 23 October 2006 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 23 October 2006 23:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Monday, 23 October 2006 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link
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― don (dow), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 01:28 (eighteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 10:30 (eighteen years ago) link
Oops, no it's not. It's on When The Sun Goes Down, and was one of the most ignorable tracks there, too. As for whose version is better, it's a tossup. Why is such a mediocre song so popular? Weird.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 10:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 10:43 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, in my head right now, anyway. I should play them back to back sometime and see what happens. And yeah, I too assume MG would win.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 10:52 (eighteen years ago) link
And if it has a flat drum sound, as Edd argues, it has a flat drum sound -- Nothing old or new about flat drums. Not that I've noticed the charge applies here. (Though is Nashville production in general lass flat and undefined than it used to be? If so, maybe that's what Edd means. And he might have a point -- I'm definitely liking way more pop-country than I was 15 years ago, and production probably has plenty to do with that. Along with fewer wasted tracks, more rocking guitars, all the drummers from hard rock bands who moved south, smarter songwriting, etc. Though again, Chris Young's album still feels like 2006 to me, not 1991.) (Country CDs often do seem to sound less thin now, though part of that is probably just the nature of recording studio technology, I'm guessing.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 11:20 (eighteen years ago) link
Still haven't listened to the MG alb. (At the listening post Brooke Hogan sounded surprisingly good in the background, given that her style seems modeled after the incurably blasé and bland Janet Jackson. Doesn't have a distinctive voice, but does at least have presence, and lots of pretty Storch sounds.) I've listened to relatively few albums this year, 'cause they're not coming in the mail in nearly the old quantity and anyway it's far more fun careening around YouTube than working my way through longplayers. My top albs are Marit, Paris, and Dixies, unless I want to include compilations, in which case Totally Country Vol. 5 and Crunk Hits Vol. 2 are up there. (The reason not to count the comps isn't that they're comps but that most of what's on them predates '06.) Anyway, I can easily imagine that there are ten better albums this year than my top three, but the way things are going with my "career" I'm not likely to hear them. Might vote for JoJo if I hear it again. Should relisten to the Electric Boogie Dawgz, which I got a kick out of. Gawd, if I'm struggling to reach 10 I'll even vote for last year's Electric Six (haven't heard this year's), which got its U.S. release in March. Missed my window of opportunity on Dierks at the listening party. Oh, I keep forgetting that Dylan had an album this year. Came out same time as Paris and so got overlooked in this odd neighborhood of ours. Not having heard a lick of it, I'd say it's the favorite so far to win Pazz & Jop, but that's just because no other obvious alternative candidate has stepped forward yet (at least as far as ignorant Frank knows). You guys have any opinion on Modern Times?
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 12:27 (eighteen years ago) link
i'm supposed to write about kellie pickler. my m-gentry piece, w/ interview stuff from eddie, comes out online in the n-ville scene tomorrow.
and right, don, "lotta leavin'" is on the second dierks. I think I don't even have the first one any more. "that don't make it easy lovin' me" is one of my fave songs of the year, already, quite addictive. dierks should cover gene clark's "los angeles." I have been quite into clark's "no other" and that dillard and clark album, "fantastic expedition." my buddy dave duncan keeps telling me that "f.e." is the real start of country-rock not "gilded palace," but I think it's the real start of whatever these neo-bluegrass formalists in nashville like dierks are doing.
I dunno--the drum sound on chris young just doesn't strike me as a good drum sound. and I admit it, I really didn't give chris a full chance on first few listens. he can sing. I guess I feel as though the production doesn't surround him, that it's one-dimensional. my sense is that they were trying to sell the Voice and that's it, and maybe I'm wrong.
Nashville production has gotten way better in the last few years, but as Mark Nevers and others I've been fortunate enough to pick brains of have told me, there's an ungodly amount of compression going on in the mastering of most Music Row productions. That in my opinion is what makes something like Sara Evans' records so remarkable--they don't sound all squashed down. Brett Beavers' prod of the new Dierks sounds kinda like the last one, a bit trebly and a bit bass-light. This sounds like a conscious strategy to me.
Gary Bennett's record is so good partly because R.S. Field is so good a producer. Exemplary.
Big 50 Years of Steve Cropper thing happening at the Ryman on the first, which would've been my mother's 72nd birthday. with John Anderson, B.J. Thomas, John Kay, Mark Farner, and many others. If the TJ Martell Foundation will comp me the tix they promised (they're like $150, and I did a short thing on the show for the Scene, so gimme), I'll be there. Amazing to think Cropper started playing guitar in 1956 in Memphis, and he's still going--seen him a couple times out playing recently, and even when he's kinda fucking off he's still got that sound.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 13:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Tuesday, 24 October 2006 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link
...have only ONE album I etc. (aka Me and My Brother. Though maybe I should go back and listen to their debut Thug Walkin more one of these days. I also like the two remix sets My Brother and Me and USA Still United, and the side project Da Musicianz from this summer is finally growing on me, and there was a weird B-side EP I found a few years ago that was good too. So: One great album, one boring one, and a bunch of perfectly okay ones. But I still like my least favorite Montgomery Gentry album {their debut, I guess} more than my second favorite Ying Yang Twins album.)
Did anybody else notice that the new M-Gentry record has 1) really good graphics,
Weirder: The front cover of their new CD looks almost exactly the same as the back cover of their previous CD! (Maybe paintings based on the previous back cover's photographs, or something? Wacky!)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 00:27 (eighteen years ago) link
But that's all off-topic.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 26 October 2006 04:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 26 October 2006 05:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 26 October 2006 05:06 (eighteen years ago) link
I never even knew this album existed until two days ago, when I was googling in an attempt to find out the weird audio EP (only playable in DVD players) (because mostly otherwise a DVD, as are the two outtake/remix albums) I mentioned above. It's Puttin' It In.
But yeah, way off topic. Unless you think Southern hip-hop and Ying Yangs in particular are "country" (some do, and not just Britney.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 26 October 2006 09:27 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 26 October 2006 10:52 (eighteen years ago) link
I guess I'm in the minority on really liking alan jackson's "like red." just about everyone I've talked to dismisses it as sterile middlebrow airbrushed krauss-i-fication, but I just find it calming and even sort of inspired pop music. rich kienzle in the new no depression really takes it to task, "navel-gazing ballads score big with Bluebird Café types or dilettantes who derive their primary world view from NPR. One suspects damn few of these folks were ever Alan Jackson fans." OK, Rich is a good writer and I see his point, but I mean I get a lot of my world view from the monthly co-op newspaper (really, a well-done publication, excellent charts and photos of soybeans in all parts of Tenn., and some good recipes, plus great info about how farmers use Science, just like Alan and Alison use the Recording Studio to Make Music That Isn't Necessarily Last Year's Crop) and have nearly gotten myself kicked out the Bluebird because it can be so fucking boring. I don't get that the record is "arty" as Kienzle maintains--it's no artier than Dwight Yoakam anytime. For my part, I'd love to hear more people in Nashville doing exactly what Krauss does on this record; to some extent, Nevers is doing it, but within the context of "indie" or whatever with Lambchop, and his new Charlie Louvin record ought to be choice. In short, I have no problem with this kind of thing at all, I suppose I have some bad old Middlebrow in me. But I seem to be just about the only person who really likes this record, which for sure makes my top ten this year.xps
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 26 October 2006 12:42 (eighteen years ago) link
I bought a Charlie Louvin LP, "It Almost Felt Like Love", recently (I'd always steered clear of his solo material, assuming it just wouldn't match up). It's surprisingly fine.
― Tim (Tim), Thursday, 26 October 2006 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link
I haven't seen the whole review but that quote is maybe the most wreteched countrier-than-thou-ism I've ever read.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 26 October 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link
Excellent: Dierks doing "Fast Lanes and Country Roads" from "She Was Country When Country Wasn't Cool," and Brad Paisley "In Times Like These," where he sounds more lowdown, a bluesman even. For that matter, the banal hackery of some of the chord changes, very J.R. and Sue Ellen-pink, that anchor "I Was Country When Country Wasn't Cool" as done by K. Chesney and R. McEntire--that's pretty fucking middlebrow and cheesy, but the version is a good one, and useful historical perspective on the bad old '80s. Haven't heard "If Loving You Is Wrong, I Don't Wanna Be Right Yet" by dirty LeAnn Rimes; that might be for my tumbler o'bourbon and smoking jacket, later tonight.
Only ringer so far I've heard on "She Was Country" is Randy Owen doing "Years," that Fogleberg quaver, bearded ass-man in doleful extremis, I don't like it.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 26 October 2006 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link
hi dere
― gabbneb (gabbneb), Thursday, 26 October 2006 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Thursday, 26 October 2006 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 27 October 2006 01:13 (eighteen years ago) link
In possibly related news, there's a glowing full-page review of the new Dierks Bentley album, of all things, in Paste, of all places, arguing that fans of alt-country shouldn't ignore Nashville country, which Geoffrey Himes says has gotten better in the past few years (though he may he overrate Bentley's importance in that equation -- Dierks is hardly the most interesting act in Nashville, though I agree he can frequently be real good -- and Himes mentions the Wrights and Bobby Pinson but not Big & Rich or Toby Keith or Montgomery Gentry as evidence of his claim, which strikes me as somewhat odd). Nice to see the barrier being broken down, regardless.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 27 October 2006 11:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 27 October 2006 11:30 (eighteen years ago) link
A lot of what alt-country is, to me, it's just bar music, music you hear in a bar, intellectualized bar music, whatever, and having to worry about my relationship to the supposedly "authentic" or not, is wearying to me and fucks up my thinking and writing. So I don't do it, but I think ND honestly tries to get at some of that stuff and that there might well be something in the effort that I am either too rooted or not rooted enough to fully appreciate. It's just a bar--let's have a drink.
Glad to see that Himes gives country its due; by my lights, Dierks Bentley is a classic case of a pretty good artist whose overall production-design is flawed. Kinda like a pretty good and perfectly good-looking but not spectacularly beautifuly actress who never quite gets lighted the right way on set. What I find interesting about Dierks' last 2 is the utter banality of the whole thing, when you set the sometimes kind of brilliant *conception* of the *sound, playing and production* itself against the, to my ears, deflating *sententiousness* of the sentiments themselves. In other words, the whole ramblin' thing makes me urp, and the point of those records is a) the fact he's got this unruly head of curls, no hat (and MG are significant not least because Eddie wears his big hat/duster and Troy doesn't, and that's the contrast, exactly what they try to do in their music, whereas Dierks is all No Hat) b) the one great trick Brett Beavers has come up with re DB--using this four-four kick-drum stomp to ground some really interesting guitar licks by the great J.T. Corenflos and the surgically applied banjo and the occasional really cool lick as in "That Don't Make It Easy Lovin' Me," which is I think the only great song on the record, just like "Lot of Leavin'" which it rewrites was the only great one on the last one. I find the 4/4 kick a bit intrusive after a while, altho on this one the drummer often does a kind of roll suggestive of some Civil War memory or some forgotten road memory or whatever, and that adds to the whole thing. And the songs are mostly non-songs, actually, and the one where Dierks imagines an egalitarian heaven with the usual post-hobo-sentimental cast of characters, is downright fulsome. Plus, as on "Modern Day Drift," the production itself is wrong, both these records sound like they were just digitally moved around and flattened out, they lack depth. Too compressed. And that's what I find mystifying about country music and some of the writing about it, why not talk about the record as artifice and get into why they sound the way they do? As on Jackson or as on MG, which sounds fucking great. I kind of wish they'd work on their harmonies a bit more, or do something with background voices that wasn't just using some gospel choir, which has become just as much empty signifier as mariachi horns in country music.
Anyway, Dierks just needs a new producer, and god forgive me, but he needs to record somewhere else than Nashville, perhaps. It's obvious that Brett Beavers (who cowrites nearly every song on the record w/ Dierks and one/two others) has created this sound that is supposed to go with a ramblin' persona, and it half-works. And that songs are written piecemeal and by committee to fit into that sound. I'll stop here: Dierks, to my mind, isn't all that interesting as a person or a "star," but the whole process by which he makes records is real interesting and indicative of what can be wrong with how they make records on Music Row these days. And that most of the records made around here sound fucking great.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Friday, 27 October 2006 12:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 27 October 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Saturday, 28 October 2006 02:33 (eighteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 29 October 2006 01:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 29 October 2006 05:06 (eighteen years ago) link
Oh, good, then I can snatch some time to listen to the Brooke Hogan instead (not a distinctive voice, but for r&b riffiness and catchiness she beats a lot of more distinctive singers, e.g. her producer's gf Janet Jackson).
(Haven't visited the PO in a couple of days; the package with the Mandrell trib arrived, as has the one with the Alan Jackson and the Cornerstone mixes. A couple of mix CDs are on their way to you.)
"Redder That That" - "Redder Than That"
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 29 October 2006 08:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Sunday, 29 October 2006 09:54 (eighteen years ago) link
Wasn't the MG album I sent in the same package as the Mandrell one? Weird. I only sent you two packages; should've been in one of those! Unless for some ridiculous reason I forgot to put in in the envelope.
Went back and listened to the MG album yesterday, after Don's and Frank's skepticism about it on this thread, and it's as great as I thought. Only song I could live without is "If You Wanna Keep An Angel," I think. I'll concede that there may not be a "Cold One Comin' On" on here, but who cares -- "Hey Country" (with that cool Stooges chord progression or whatever it is at the start! Though okay, the "lookit that cowboy hat" Alan Jackson reference gets on my nerves, though I think it's supposed to be a joke), "Lucky Man," "Takes All Kinds," "Your Tears Are Comin" (= "96 Tears"/"Who's Crying Now"), "Clouds" (which I didn't get, I admit, til everybody started loving it here), "Twenty Years On" (has any act ever sung better about not getting along with their dads? Probably, but these guys are way up there), "What Do Ya Think About That," "Redder Than That" (great high school reunion song, the "red" stuff is just extraneous gravy), "A Man's Job," and "Free Life in the Fast Lane" all kick my ass. The latter always makes me think of that South Park movie song about "Freedom Isn't Free" more than it makes me think of the Eagles, but damn does it rock -- what's really hitting me about this record is how southern-rock-*expansive* so much of its music sounds; they really sound like a *band* these days. Which I guess maybe they always did, but that doesn't mean I can't be surprised when it happens again (and maybe more). Also, the spoken word sections in I think "Free Ride In the Fast Lane" and especially "Twenty Years On" (I *think* those are the tracks they're in) blow me away every time. And these guys have never sounded as open-hearted and even *happy* as they do on this record (happy even if life does give them a pound of pain for every ounce of pleasure or whatever it is they say); they've never made as many jokes, and the jokes can be really funny! Anyway, the moral platitudes they spout (or remember their dads spouting, usually) are just one very small part of the mix. And nobody else in music now rocks with a comparable immediacy. In my book, it's still the album of the year.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 30 October 2006 11:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 30 October 2006 13:47 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 30 October 2006 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 30 October 2006 13:52 (eighteen years ago) link
And the MG record, I guess the whole thing works fine as "album" and as a canny reinterp of their *own* image. Still bad-ass but adding some backstory and their own songs which of course derive from all their hard-earned experience to the mix; and I kind of am nonplussed by the spoken-word shit except on "Hey Country" where the duo show a nice feel for the dumb-ass enthusiasm of southern stoners. But I mean they're pop pros (them, their producers, and their songwriters) and it's indeed post-Big & Rich in Nashville. They're one of the few big acts to even try to do the same thing, right? So in the end I think "Clouds" is pretty much a dog, "Redder Than That" is a great idea (right, the redneckery is just a red herring) but isn't quite there. I'm forever a skeptic about Nashville songwriting and a lot of this just seems *almost* real good but almost always too...banal, or something like that. But it's high-grade and you definitely have to enter their universe and all that. (I mean, hearing "Some People Change" on the radio around here, they're promoting the shit out of the record on radio, MG tailgate parties, Meet Us in Lexington, Kentucky, "rednecking and ready to have a good time," and you do get a sense of how ambitious they are, with that single, which I think ultimately gets over on that big chorus of Many Colors on the last "SOME PEOPLE CHANGE," and you think, that's what good about country music--the people.
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― don (dow), Monday, 30 October 2006 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link
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― don (dow), Tuesday, 31 October 2006 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 2 November 2006 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 2 November 2006 16:12 (eighteen years ago) link
I like sugarland almost as well--maybe it isn't quite as strong as the first record, but it's ingenious and I suppose "folk-rock" as opposed to british pop. many songs about small towns, one great one about how mean girls grow up into noxious bitches, and jennifer nettles' voice is huge, cutting and, to my ears, sometimes near panic. which is really their theme, panic at moving to the city or back to the small town, and they seem caught in between. but the music is bright and chewy and all that. I dunno, I give it a B+.
saw recently: john anderson sing "seminole wind" and "swingin'" with a band including steve cropper and a big horn section. amazing. he's a great singer, the real fucking thing. also saw t. graham brown, all jolly and round and with a beer in hand, prowling around the stage (this at the ryman--a tribute to cropper for charity) doing his r&b country stuff. great, as well. tanya tucker was there, mark farner did a great "closer to home/i'm your captain," and john kay did "sookie sookie," which cropper and don covay wrote. it was a great show, with james burton and cropper playing guitar and many other guests including delbert mcclinton. but robben ford stole the show: one of the greatest fucking displays of guitar savvy i have ever seen, just mind-blowing. I mean, james burton was standing there looking at robben ford and his face said, "i got to go home."
last night, a bunch of muscle shoals guys got together to back songwriter donnie fritts. fritts can't sing a lick but it was still great, he's got presence, and the musicians were just superb--david hood, spooner oldham, like that. fritts did his "damn good country song" he wrote for jerry lee, delbert mcclinton showed up again and they did a texas blues that killed. the two shows were like a history of country rubbing up against black/white soul in memphis/shoals/nashville.
and, rip, buddy killen. I was gonna say, time to pull out my joe tex stuff, but it's already out.
Wally, my cat, died yesterday, he got diagnosed with heart disease on monday and he went downhill from there, he'd been acting strangely for a few days and finally it got worrisome. he was only 7, and, you know, a great little guy I was attached to, had him since he was born.
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― don (dow), Friday, 3 November 2006 21:13 (eighteen years ago) link
That's a good band on Stereophonic Musical Listenings That Have Been Origin In Moving Film Borat; not clear to me how literal their ripoff/appropriations of Middle Eastern European (or whatever) pop are (for all I know it could just secretly be like one of those Sublime Frequencies albums where the music is all stolen from found cassette tapes) (the "credits" on the CD cover are in real or fake Kazakh, ha ha), but the actual music balances out "In My Country There Is a Problem (Throw The Jew Down The Well)" and "You Be My Wife" (rhymes with "we'll make love whenever I like") appropriately.
The guy in the Country Teasers sings as bad as Borat or Waylon, I've decided. His flatness reminded me of Mark E Smith on Full Moon Empty Sports Bag a couple years ago, but on The Empire Strikes Back: Race And Racism In 70s Britain (almost as good a subtitle as the Borat album!) the shtick's really starting to wear thin for me. If anybody wants to convince me otherwise, I'll listen.
"O Kazakhastan" on Borat's album is on now. It'd fit right in on the new Laibach album Volk, which is their renditions of national anthems from the world over. Maybe they read what Frank wrote about Rammstein making a folk move upthread, and decided to one-up them?
Now Dierks is claiming every mile is a memory. His road shtick could easily wear thin too. But probably not until next album, at least.
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― don (dow), Saturday, 4 November 2006 18:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 4 November 2006 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link
http://robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=silos
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― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Saturday, 4 November 2006 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link
i took out the charley patton collection out of the library, and was kind of disappointed, ive listened to alot of country and blues from the 20s and 30s, well maybe not alot, but enough, and hes good, very good, but i dont know people like uncle dave macon, strike me as much better...
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 5 November 2006 04:33 (eighteen years ago) link
lw TW Artist Title TW lw Move 39 38 KEITH ANDERSON Podunk 513 427 86 2.836 66 ENNIS SISTERS Holding On 66 0 66 0.152 92 75 JOHN MELLENCAMP Our Country 21 15 6 0.274 87 79 BOB SEGER Wait For Me 25 22 3 0.308 72 80 POVERTYNECK HILLBILLIES Mr. Right Now 32 38 -6 0.239 116 101 BOB SEGER Real Mean Bottle (f/... 8 5 3 0.051 162 106 FABULOUS GUNSLINGERS She Rode The Bull 8 3 5 0.115 124 110 BOMSHEL Bomshel Stomp 15 14 1 0.087 117 SUGARLAND Mean Girls 5 0 5 0.160 146 122 NOMAD Meet Me At Midnight 6 4 2 0.080 109 126 MONTGOMERY GENTRY Hey Country 7 8 -1 0.090 128 SUGARLAND Sugarland 5 0 5 0.151 169 138 NO JUSTICE Bend But Don't Break 9 6 3 0.034 189 151 DANIELLE PECK Sucks To Be You 10 5 5 0.048 277 160 KAREN PECK & NEW RIVER Hold Me While I Cry 5 2 3 0.083 145 166 BILLY RAY CYRUS I Want My Mullet Bac... 5 6 -1 0.033 243 170 KENNY CHESNEY Please Come To Bosto... 5 2 3 0.044 176 171 SHOOTER JENNINGS Gone To Carolina 5 4 1 0.018 173 172 TYLER DEAN Built For Blue Jeans 5 5 0 0.032 149 174 JASON ALLEN Kickapoo Creek 5 5 0 0.019 224 183 LANTANA Country As A City Gi... 4 3 1 0.018 223 190 NO JUSTICE Red Dress 4 3 1 0.015 194 COODER GRAW Lifetime Stand 2 0 2 0.018 179 202 SPUR 503 Into You 5 5 0 0.023 168 207 GREAT DIVIDE Crazy In California 6 7 -1 0.024 209 LOST TRAILERS Gravy 3 0 3 0.023 306 219 BIG & RICH Jalapeno 2 1 1 0.010 222 JASON BROWN Touchdown 9 0 9 0.026 225 STONEY LARUE Down In Flames 1 0 1 0.016 240 RODNEY ATKINS Cleaning This Gun (C... 1 0 1 0.004 427 241 SONNY BURGESS A Little Bit Stronge... 3 1 2 0.012* 221 248 SHOOTER JENNINGS Some Rowdy Women 3 3 0 0.009 249 CLEDUS T. JUDD Bake Me A Country Ha... 2 0 2 0.014 227 250 RYAN SHUPE & THE RUBBERBAND Banjo Boy 2 2 0 0.004 260 DAN BERN Trudy 1 0 1 0.008 232 265 TRACE ADKINS Feels Like The First... 1 1 0 0.008 197 266 DOO-WAH RIDERS Dear Beer 4 6 -2 0.004 131 269 MONTGOMERY GENTRY Redder Than That 1 6 -5 0.004 105 270 MONTGOMERY GENTRY Takes All Kinds 1 9 -8 0.024 277 LITTLE BIG TOWN Bones 1 0 1 0.023 291 GRETCHEN WILSON Heaven Help Me 2 0 2 0.021 292 DR. ELMO Redneck Dracula 2 0 2 0.005 296 JIMMY BUFFETT Reggabilly Hill 1 0 1 0.029 304 POVERTYNECK HILLBILLIES One Night In New Orl... 1 0 1 0.008 311 GREENCARDS The Ghost Of Who We ... 1 0 1 0.007 402 324 ELEVEN HUNDRED SPRINGS Why You Been Gone So... 2 1 1 0.009 332 BAKER GIRLS My Kind Of Living 1 0 1 0.005 127 339 BLAINE LARSEN Baby Don't Get Hooke... 1 6 -5 0.005 344 SHOOTER JENNINGS Little White Lines 1 0 1 0.005 359 WELL HUNGARIANS Diamonds And Love 1 0 1 0.005 360 MIRANDA LAMBERT Crazy Ex-Girlfriend 1 0 1 0.004 362 WEIRD AL YANKOVIC White And Nerdy 1 0 1 0.003 213 380 COWBOY TROY Somebody's Smilin' O... 1 2 -1 0.002 388 BROOKLYN TABERNACLE CHOIR I'm Amazed 1 0 1 0.011 400 CHARLIE DANIELS BAND The Intimidator 2 0 2 0.005 403 BOMSHEL Power Of One 1 0 1 0.011 404 BOMSHEL Oh, Baby 1 0 1 0.011 407 MONTGOMERY GENTRY Git-R-Done 1 0 1 0.009 406 435 PEAR RATZ Just South Of The Nu... 1 1 0 0.004 298 447 MARK KNOPFLER/EMMYLOU HARRIS This Is Us 1 2 -1 0.001 256 451 HOGG MAULIES Goodnight 1 2 -1 0.004 178 452 DARREN KOZELSKY Messed Up In Love 1 3 -2 0.004 457 BE GOOD TANYAS When Doves Cry 1 0 1 0.001 461 WOODY HARRELSON/JOHN C. RILEY Whoop-I-Ti-Yi-Yo 1 0 1 0.003 467 CARRIE RODRIQUEZ 50's French Movie 1 0 1 0.001 468 SOLOMON BURKE You're The Kind Of T... 1 0 1 0.001 340 478 TODD SNIDER Looking For A Job 1 1 0 0.001 252 480 KASEY CHAMBERS Nothing At All 1 1 0 0.001
Best new band names: Nomad, Cooder Graw, Doo-Wah Riders, Greencards, Dr. Elmo, Well Hungarians, Pear Ratz, and Darren Kozelsky if and only if his song has a polka rhythm.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 5 November 2006 14:39 (eighteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 5 November 2006 16:09 (eighteen years ago) link
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061104/ap_on_bi_ge/hispanics_country_music
"I do think a huge portion of the Latin American population loves the same themes: meetin', greetin', cheatin' and retreatin,'" said Eddie Wright-Rios, a Vanderbilt University professor who specializes in the cultural history of modern Mexico.
Where to begin? And the Jeff Walker quote about tapping into the market...No hay negocio como el show.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 5 November 2006 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 5 November 2006 17:56 (eighteen years ago) link
What Is Latin Country Music?
Latin Country music is an entirely new musical genre that celebrates the Latin influence in Country music. In essence, Latin Country music is a hybrid of both the Latin and Country musical genres and cultures (as culture relates to lifestyle, music, and values).
Latin Country music as it pertains to Country music is Country music that incorporates Latin sounds, words, instrumentation and rhythms. Equally, Latin Country music as it pertains to Latin music fuses traditional Country instrumentation, sounds and lyrics with a variety of Latin sub-genres (such as Norteño, Banda, Duranguense, Pop, and Rock).
Latin Country music is produced and performed by U.S. Country artists of Hispanic descent, Country artists from Mexico, Spain and Latin America and by American Country artists in the U.S. The music is performed in English, Spanish or a fusion of both languages.
Latin Country music emanates from a rich, historical background in Country music dating back to the early 1900s. Artists such as Gene Autry, Tex Ritter, Buck Owens, Marty Robbins, and Bob Wills have all fused Latin music and celebrated the Hispanic culture in their music. The Country influence in Latin music is also historically rich. Early Tex-Mex artists of the 1960’s such as Freddy Fender and Little Joe created Country music with a Latin twist. Later, artists such as Johnny Rodriguez, Linda Ronstadt, Emilio Navaira and Rick Treviño continued on the path of producing and performing Country music, always remembering their cultural roots and incorporating a Latin blend in their music.
Today, Latin Country music is a prominent and successful style of music performed by cutting-edge artists such as Tim McGraw, Toby Keith, Brooks and Dunn and Big and Rich. The Country music industry continues to celebrate the Latin culture in its song-writing and musical productions with songs such as “Stays in Mexico,” “That’s Why God Made Mexico,” “My Heart is Lost To You” and many more. Moreover, Latin Country music is a steady growth market with the rise of artists such as John Arthur Martinez, Victor Sanz, Anthony Rivera, Fidel Hernandez and J.R. Castillo. Equally, Country music is enjoyed all over Latin America and performed by artists such as Ha-Ash, Jimena, Coyote Dax and many more in Mexico, Spain, Argentina, Chile, Peru and Brazil.
The power of Latin Country music is that it reaches all people regardless of race, language or ethnicity. The U.S. Hispanic Country Music Association is devoted to uniting Country music artists, musicians, songwriters and fans for the purpose of celebrating Country music in its authentic and universal form – whether in English, Spanish or a fusion of both languages. Together, Latin Country music is the bridge that unites Country music enthusiasts everywhere while acknowledging and appreciating the beautiful and rich Latin cultural influence in Country music. [
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 5 November 2006 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 5 November 2006 20:00 (eighteen years ago) link
kinda really liking the new darryl worley, which starts off with a great kiss-off to his old label and the n-ville establishment, and ends with one of the better iraq-war songs by any country artist, "I just came back from a war," which strikes me as very no-bullshit and real. I guess he does for blooze-country what dierks b. does for meta-grass outlawisms. I need another listen but so far, so really good.
haven't heard the womack yet.
great old stuff: ray price's "night life" and "marty [robbins] after midnight." got 'em burned on one CD, and enjoying them mightily, just smooth as hell, I mean marty does great by shit like "september in the rain" and ray seems to know plenty about "bright lights and blonde haired women." just the kind of thing I need right now.
and the stereo mixes of gene clark's one truly great and essential record, "with the gosdin brothers."
finally, anyone else know the beau brummels' '69 recorded-in-nashville "bradley's barn"? a fine record that really brings san francisco into mt. juliet, actually, and full of unexpected touches. very even-handed, a good version of the everly brothers song "turn around." a real lost moment of a real gone era, and just impeccable sound.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 5 November 2006 20:23 (eighteen years ago) link
ooo, I beg to differ. The reissue of "White Light" with the bonus tracks is also great and essential.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 5 November 2006 21:24 (eighteen years ago) link
wtf
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Sunday, 5 November 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Sunday, 5 November 2006 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link
Nah. I'm guessing that Country music probably needs the Hispanic demographic in the future more than vice versa (which isn't to deny it would be cool if Latin and Country really did find common ground.)
I was wrong about Kellie Pickler's album -- the second half (esp the proggily souped-up California-rock ballad "I Wonder," "Wild Ponies" with its waltz chorus melody that sounds like a bubblegum version of "Wild Horse" by the Stones just like the title says, "Small Town Girl" which I underrated, "Girls Like Me" where she smells the Magnolia trees and remembers kissing football stars) is every bit as much fun as the first half. And lots of it (esp "One Of The Guys" and "Gotta Keep Moving," which I swear starts out echoing "Roll On Down The Highway" by BTO) sure does boogie hard for bubble-country. Plus, at least three songs ("Red High Heels, "Things That Never Cross A Man's Mind," "One Of The Guys") refer to clothes and/or getting dressed and/or going shopping. "I Wonder" seems to maybe be a confessional-teen-pop-style dealing with abandonment by dad song, but maybe I'm hearing it wrong. "I'm On My Way" might be about her dad, too. And I agree -- "Pickler" is a great country singer name.
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― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 6 November 2006 12:45 (eighteen years ago) link
http://robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=nickel+creek
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― don (dow), Monday, 6 November 2006 18:18 (eighteen years ago) link
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― don (dow), Monday, 6 November 2006 18:32 (eighteen years ago) link
I dunno, charley patton always struck me as the real essential delta blues guy, pre-war. he had the rhythmic thing down, he is really funky and rocking, and robert johnson sounds affected by comparison. steve calt's bio of patton could scarcely be improved upon. the thing is, what world was uncle dave macon living in? he was farming and so forth, owned his own land or what? patton, though, what did he own? he lived a tough life--that would seem the big difference, that and patton's music seemed to reach forward and uncle dave macon was a relic of the past--not that there's anything wrong with that, but seems to me the diff between "rock and roll" and, you know, that opry shit. which is of course is slightly unfair to the opry, but it makes me feel good to put it that way. I like all that old weird country stuff fine, but I honestly never felt the emotional connection to it that I've always felt to those old blues guys.
g. himes wrote about the mammals, well, for No Depression, a while back. having heard donna the buffalo, duhks, mammals, nickel creek, and as I like to call 'im Surfin' Stevens, I kinda find the whole thing tiresome. I actually dug the weird sound and *muffled yet angry* thing the mammals did on "departure," and admire ruth ungar's songs. the duhks doing fraser & deBolt was very cool, a stroke, but for my part, Cuban/Brazilian instrumentation does not make a Cuban/Brazilian rhythmic aesthetic, far from it. their last record was really accomplished and while I respect them--I had a great conversation with Scott Senior, and they all seem to be fine people--their music isn't for me, it's for people in Boulder or something. having lived in Boulder, I know about what that whole thing is about. nickel creek is just plain boring, and I never could work up enough enthusiasm to even comment on them. donna the buffalo have some verve, some skank, even. the next step for these bands--brad mehldau is a very fine pianist who covers some, er, interesting pop songs, just like cassandra wilson fell asleep during her attempt to do "pleasant valley sunday" a decade ago--is to make a Big Record here in N-ville with Edgar Meyer and Jerry Douglas and Emmy lou and all them. avant-bluegrass or whatever. all I can say is, there must be some weird folk scenes in canada, and that it's a long way from where I live.
and yeah, roy, I'm a gene clark fan and you're right about "white." it's good. I also quite like "no other" and those great demos he did, like "los angeles." but I love "with the gosdin bros."
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 6 November 2006 19:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 6 November 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link
He did? I thought that was me. :)
I pretty much agree with xhuxk on NC, save the part about the Sufjan comparison. I mean there's a long tradition of boring, non-rocking newgrass/bluegrass/mathgrass (© Edd Hurt), so who needs indie rock to explain why Nickel Creek is crippled?
But they can be decent live--not that that redeems much....
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Monday, 6 November 2006 20:17 (eighteen years ago) link
and I mean that's just my take on those bands. there's some part of me that kind of digs it but in the end I don't. it's sort of a good idea, what they do, and perhaps it comes down to the material, which is why I probably like the mammals the best, because their songs seem better.
and, I just checked out that memphis commercial appeal link that don forwarded, on george soule. fascinating. that's one I need to hear, since I've been steeped in muscle shoals/memphis white soul this last week, seeing donnie fritts and cropper and all them here.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 6 November 2006 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link
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― pinkmoose (jacklove), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 09:54 (eighteen years ago) link
Memphis Jug Band are one of the great bands of the century, though I would assume anybody familiar with my second book should already know I think that. And anybody who can't find Double Album (is it in print anymore? I'm guessing not) should track down the '01 Yazoo CD The Best Of The Memphis Jug Band. Better yet: own both, like I do. There's some overlap, of course, but less than you'd think, as I recall (someday I'll compare them track by track.)
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― pinkmoose (jacklove), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 12:23 (eighteen years ago) link
And right, the Memphis Jug Band's stuff is among my very favorite music, and damned if I don't have my double-LP, the one with the Crumb drawing, any more. Steve Calt gave that to me years ago. I made a tape of that with some Cannon's Jug Stompers and the prime Rev. Robert Wilkins stuff. So that's one I need to get on CD, and thanks for reminding me.
I've known Calt since around '93, when he got me to go down to Bentonia, Miss. and interview a blues singer named Jack Owens. He's always been a good friend and I believe his heart is in the right place; I don't agree with him about a lot of stuff, and his whole take on the blues always seemed like a strenuous effort to place blues into a...framework of the Larger Culture, to analyze it like any other artform. Which should work, but somehow doesn't. Because it's just too strenuous, and you don't get anywhere kicking yourself over and over about your youthful idealism that has now flown.xps
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― don (dow), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 18:01 (eighteen years ago) link
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― don (dow), Tuesday, 7 November 2006 21:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Dude. Did you interview the Jack Owens? The one album I own, It Must Have Been the Devil, is astonishing. All I know about him is David Evans' liner notes.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 03:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 9 November 2006 07:34 (eighteen years ago) link
however, even better is the comp cd that comes with the book, just a little sampler, but a really well curated collection of semi obscurities.
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Thursday, 9 November 2006 08:54 (eighteen years ago) link
= big butts? (though only for the athletically inclined women, i'm guessing.) anyway, anthony, what's it called? (the cd and the book?)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 9 November 2006 12:28 (eighteen years ago) link
Interesting reissue of Terry Manning's "Home Sweet Home," a real curio from 1970 on which the Memphis producer/musician (he runs Compass Point Studio in Nassau, a very great studio indeed, and the man has truly done it all, producing ZZ Top and Led Zep and Big Star and lots of others) does a 10-minute version of G. Harrisong's "Savoy Truffle," a maniacal Jerry Lee pastiche, and even a fine twisted version of Jack Clement's "Guess Things Happen." It's a parody of heavy 1969-era rock and a parody of the historical impulse as it is writ in Memphis. Remarkably solid and one of the funnest things I've heard in a while.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 9 November 2006 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link
Also, Herrmuth Bronson does Musicians Spotlight, this month Charlie McCoy. "Of the musicians that you haven't played with, who would be the three you would most like to work with." "Allison Krauss, Alan Jackson, Diana Krall." The cover of this rag has a circular "violator" that says "#1 when you Google on 'Nashville Music'," but damned if I can figure out how a publication devoted to Music City can't get a little spell-checker going so they could spell Ms. Krauss's first name correctly.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 9 November 2006 14:36 (eighteen years ago) link
the big butt classicism is from art and beauty, no i mean tehy are mostly from the chest up, faces in great detail, with out much background detail...
the man can draws i tell yah
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Thursday, 9 November 2006 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Friday, 10 November 2006 05:05 (eighteen years ago) link
here is the list:On The Road Again Memphis Jug Band Sobbin' Blues "King" Oliver's Creole Jazz Band (W/ Louis Armstrong) Kater Street Rag Bennie Moten's Kansas City Orchestra Dark Night Blues Blind Willie McTell All Night Long Blues Burnett And Rutherford Minglewood Blues Cannon's Jug Stompers High Water Everywhere Charley Patton R. Crumb's Heroes Of Blues, Jazz & Country Folk Wild Cat Blues Clarence Williams' Blue Five w Sidney Bechet Little Rabbit Crockett's Kentucky Mountaineers Sugar Baby Dock Boggs Mineola Rag East Texas Serenaders I Got Mine Frank Stokes Somebody Stole My Gal Frankie Franko & His Louisianians (W/ Ernes "Punch" Miller) The Peddler And His Wife Hayes Shepherd I'm Gonna Cross The River Of Jordan – Some O' These DaysJaybird Coleman Kansas City Stomps-Jelly Roll Morton & His Red Hot Peppers King Joe Jimmy NooneMojo Strut Parham–Pickett Apollo Syncopaters (W/ "Tiny" Parham & Junie C. Cobb) Big Bend Gal Shelor Family Hard Time Killin' Floor Blues Skip JamesGreenback Dollar Weems String Band
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Friday, 10 November 2006 07:05 (eighteen years ago) link
Nah, there's a photo of them on that one. They're standing on a porch, all wearing hats. No jugs, but some barrels in the background.
Caddle, Raise 'Em High: Had hopes for this well-meaning Southern rock thing. First track, "Mississippi Doublewide", is not bad. Most of the rest is Drive By Truckers with a worse singer and worse tunes. Songs don't sink in, and they don't especially kick.
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― pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 11 November 2006 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link
For proof, here is my working list (so far) of the 40 best 2005 albums by artists from A to J in the alphabet (which is how far I've gotten so far, many many more to go, this project will take a while):
2005Jefferson Airplane – The Essential (RCA/Legacy reissue)The Hold Steady – Separation Sunday (French Kiss)Deana Carter – The Story Of My Life (Vanguard)Fannypack – See You Next Tuesday (Tommy Boy)Foxy/OXO/Company B – Ishology (Re/Empire reissue)Desmond Dekker – You Can Get It If You Really Want: The Definitive Collection (Trojan reissue)Bang Sugar Bang – Thwak Thwak Go Crazy!! (SOS)Hard Skin – Same Meat Different Gravy (TKO)Gary Allan – Tough All Over (MCA Nashville)Buck 65 – This Right Here Is (Warner Bros. reissue)George Brigman And Split – Jungle Rot (Bona Fide reissue)The Electric Boogie Dawgz – Sloppy, Fast & Loud (Hooch)Roky Erickson – I Have Always Been Here Before: The Roky Erickson Anthology (Shout! Factory reissue)Shooter Jennings – Put The O Back In Country (Universal South)Faith Hill – Fireflies (Warner Bros.)Destiny’s Child - #1’s (Sony Urban Music/Columbia reissue)The Duhks – The Duhks (Sugar Hill)Derin Dow – Retroactive (Crapshoot Music)Hank Davison Band – Hard Way (Elite Special)Dierks Bentley – Modern Day Drifter (Capitol)Hot Rollers – Got Your Number (Sweaty Betty)The Ex – Singles, Period: The Vinyl Years 1980-1990 (Touch & Go reissue)(Various) – Cameo-Parkway 1957-1967 (Abkco reissue)Brooks & Dunn – Hillbilly Deluxe (Arista Nashville)Black Lips – Let It Bloom (In The Red)Shelly Fairchild – Ride (Columbia)Doomfoxx – Doomfoxx (Armageddon Music)Todd Tamanend Clark – Nova Psychedelia: 1975-1985 (Anopheles reissue)George Brigman And Split – I Can Heart The Ants Dancin’ (Bona Fide reissue)First Band From Outer Space – We’re Only In It For the Space Rock (Transubstans)Detroit Disciples – Saving Grace (Route 44)The Grand Trick – The Decadent Session (Transubstans)Penny Dale – Undaunted (pennydale.com)Annie – Anniemal (Big Beat)Cowboy Troy – Locomotive (Warner Bros./Raybaw)The Birthday Massacre – Violet (Metropolis)Early Man – Closing In (Matador)Human Eye – Human Eye (In The Red)Crazy Frog – Presents Crazy Hits (Universal)Blueprint – 1988 (Rhymesayers Entertainment)
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countrysingles1) not ready to make nice--dixie chicks2) running block--toby keith3) will daddy sing danny boy tonight--hacendia brothers4) like red on a rose--alan jackson5) like we never loved at all--tim/faith6) jesus take the wheel--carrie underwood7) faith hill--stealing kisses8) Trace Adkins "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk"9) josh gracin--Big Brass Bed10) Willie Nelson--Cowboys are Secretly, Frequently, Fond of Each Other11) Bubba Sparxx Aint Life Grand12) Scott Miller Citation13) Tim McGraw STars Go Blue14) Chris Cagle--Wal Mart Parking Lot15) Brady Earnhart--Thank God Virgina is on our side16) Jamie Johnson--The Dollar17) George Strait--The Seashores of Old Mexico18) Aaron Pritchett--Hold My Beer...
albums
1) kris kristofferson, this old world2) jessi colter, this old fire3) cyndi boste foothill dandy4) Roseanne Cash black cadillac5) josh turner--your man6) Brokeback OST7) Gary Bennett Human Condition8) Bruce Springsteen--The Seeger Sessions
other musicsingles1) fergie--london bridge2) gwen stefani--wind me up3) theo blackman--chi chim chi ree4) jessica simpson--public affair5) Pharell/Ludacris--money maker6) max tudnra--so long far well7) beyonce--ring the alarm9) alan jackson--like red on a rose10) kd lang--love for sale
albums1) alpendub-- jo delay2) pharell--in my mind3) gabriel kahune--craigslist leider4) Marie Antoinette OST
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Saturday, 11 November 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 11 November 2006 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link
There's another track that made me think of Rick Springfield crossed with Tom Petty, but I didn't take note yet of which one it was.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 12 November 2006 00:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 12 November 2006 01:06 (eighteen years ago) link
"Used to The Pain," maybe? Though maybe it's more Dwight Twilley? Phil Seymour? Somebody. Or even, uh, the Bodeans or one of those twerpy anal-compulsive bands that got overrated in Creem in the '80s? Or even later, like that shitty band who did the theme from Friends, or those dorks Del Amitri with the unbearable baby carriage video? With Chris Isaacs high notes, yikes. But suprisingly enough, I find myself liking it. And either way, yeah: Powerpop. ("Got It Right This Time" on now. Is that a drum machine?)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 12 November 2006 02:39 (eighteen years ago) link
so, too, was "i can't stop loving you" a hit only in europe for leo sayer (and phil collins did it later on)? billy nicholls, whose 1975 "love songs" is an ancestor of the urban record, wrote it.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 12 November 2006 05:54 (eighteen years ago) link
Melody of "Got It Right This Time" (the apparently drum-machined one) is "Only You" by Yazoo! Damn, this is really shameless...
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 12 November 2006 16:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 12 November 2006 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link
Also love the guitar explorations at the end of the opening track, "Once In A Lifetime." Keith's finally found space to show off, I guess -- five over-five-minute cuts, one of which goes over six ("Stupid Boy," which hasn't kicked in yet and seems to wait too long to let the guitars kick in, but the title's intriguing so I have high hopes.) Aforementioned opener is also the second longest track on the album -- how often does that happen on a country record? Second track also goes over five minutes, with Elton John orchestrations then more guitars at the end. "Raise The Barn" with Ronnie Dunn, 5:12, start off Stones-like and goes into a cool disco-funk break at the 3-minute mark, plus lots of gospel hallelujahs and stuff tosssed into the mix in tribute (the liner notes say) to New Orleans overcoming Katrina. A really interesting record, even if the John Waite rip does claim that "everybody needs somebody sometimes".
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 12 November 2006 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 November 2006 06:14 (eighteen years ago) link
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― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Monday, 13 November 2006 06:30 (eighteen years ago) link
kogan, i think its supposed to be bad, but that said, ive always enjoyed the theme tune things by charollote church, i find them cheeky fun
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Monday, 13 November 2006 09:14 (eighteen years ago) link
(Also should add that, what with Jon Tester's victory, this has been quite a week for Montana. I almost imagine Disney planning that way, like they pegged the state as the future before the news media did. Word now is that unemployed Detroit auto workers are moving there...)
And yeah, Knopfler/Buckingham makes obvious sense in re: Keith Urban's guitar.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Monday, 13 November 2006 12:36 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 13 November 2006 14:34 (eighteen years ago) link
"Best of Both Worlds" has a pronounced* southern accent in the verses (but not particularly a country way of phrasing). The southern accent is barely present on "Who Said" (which nonetheless has a twangy guitar), except for the twist she puts on a few words at the end of a line: "magazines," "my way." And it seems gone altogether from "I Got Nerve."
*One does tend to pronounce one's accent, doesn't one?
[Haikunym, I'm sure some of the teens who bought the soundtrack noticed the southern (though not all that country) accent. Why in the world wouldn't they? Btw, a large number of teenpop stars were born in the South, though many of 'em ended up in NY or LA.]
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link
A. They wouldn't notice any traces of accent because they don't care about it one way or another, unlike people like us -- even if they do have southern or non-southern accents of their own.
B. They wouldn't notice any traces of accent because the songs' excessive noisiness and brutal futurist onslaught make it very difficult to discern anything about Miley's voice at all.
C. They wouldn't notice any traces of accent because they are too busy chanting the lyrics at the same time as the singer.
D. My daughter doesn't hear any accent. Then again, she and all her 11-year-old friends hate Miley and think she's corny. So the target audience is probably younger than that.
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Monday, 13 November 2006 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 November 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 13 November 2006 18:24 (eighteen years ago) link
depends on what suburb; closer in, like antioch or north of town, or out east like gallatin, it's reeeall southern. franklin and williamson co. there are just more rich people from other places and songwriters who moved here from new york and l.a. so that's another kind of accent. and shit, you can go to east nashville and sit in the booth at the quite good mexican joint on gallatin pike on a friday night and not hear a southern accent anywhere.
bill friskics-warren compares urban's new one to prince in a washington post piece he did. which makes sense, altho he's no prince. it's sure a frantic record, tho.
listened again to new darryl worley, and this time it sounded a bit flatter, and too many guitars competing in one sonic space. he sings real well and although the songs aren't quite as good as some of the riffs--he does a great faces/stones rip--it's kinda like seeing a really good blues band on thursday night and you go home early and not quite drunk like you would be on the weekend (if you living the blues lifestyle, that is. I had two stella artois last night with my meal and I feel it today, just gettin' old...)
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 13 November 2006 18:29 (eighteen years ago) link
The top 20 have yet to be revealed, but so far no Montgomery Gentry(though another post suggested that they weren't "really country," though I guess K. Urban is.) Also, a lot of hatred for Brooks & Dunn on that blog, though Brand New Man made the list.
― ramon fernandez (ramon fernandez), Monday, 13 November 2006 19:23 (eighteen years ago) link
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― don (dow), Monday, 13 November 2006 22:03 (eighteen years ago) link
I am hereby interested in checking out Tracy Lawrence and Colin Raye someday (though I don't remember liking them) (and though the guy on that blog, while smart, definitely likes a lot of stuff I don't.)
Here's what I wrote upthread about a Carlene Carter album he loves:
The Carlene Carter album I bought seems consisently kinda fun but never quite fun *enough*, at least so far. Maybe I wish her poppabilly was more rockabilly, "The Sweetest Thing" is slow, and could amost be a Lorrie Morgan hit from around that time; "Goodnight Dallas," which I like more than most of the tracks, has mariachi horns and yodels, so it's "western" I guess. I'm still waiting for at least one track though to jump out at me as much as, say, "Montgomery to Memphis," which jumped right out of the self-titled Leann Womack CD I bought the second I finally put it in the changer today. So right now I'd say Leann beats Carlene beats the Sweethearts, though Carlene could still win this race...carlene's CD doesn't quite make the cut, i don't think, though yeah, maybe as don suggests her new wave era stuff is less perfunctory than what she was doing in '90 (when she was actually having hits, i take it.) even "me and the wildwood rose," about growing up at grandma's and singing for miners with her little sister, doesn't quite connect. i like the rockpile-abilly powerpopsters ("i fell in love," "my dixie darlin'," "come on back," "one love," the mariachified "goodnight dallas") okay but never love them. most surprising cut, just 'cause i never knew carlene did such stuff, is that stately lorrie morgan approximation i mentioned, but i doubt i'll need to hear it again.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 01:15 (eighteen years ago) link
#22I Fell In LoveCarlene Carter1990
Talk about your legacies. Daughter of June Carter & Carl Smith, stepdaughter of Johnny Cash and stepsister of Rosanne Cash, few artists had to emerge from as many shadows as Carlene Carter did. While she’d been putting out records since the mid-70’s, she still had experienced very little success. When she surfaced on Warner Bros. in 1990, she finally broke through, with an album that paid homage to her heritage while still moving country music progressively forward. The breathtaking creativity on I Fell In Love makes contemporary rockers like the title track and “Come On Back” co-exist with covers of her father’s “You Are the One” and the Carter Family’s “My Dixie Darlin’”, and it actually sounds like they belong together. Despite some excellent covers, Carter best honors her family through her own pen. “Me and the Wildwood Rose” tells the story of growing up as a Carter through her own eyes, and recounts the death of Mother Maybelle, when the family gathered at the grave and “stood in a circle and sang.”
Download This: “Come On Back”, “Me and the Wildwood Rose”, “You Are the One”
― xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 11:49 (eighteen years ago) link
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― xhuxk (xheddy), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 12:29 (eighteen years ago) link
saw vince gill on leno last night, with a big band, horns, and doing white r&b. he doesn't get *out* of himself as a singer, but i suppose that worked on this particular song...too suave to externalize his soul and all that. but he sings well, not as well as he plays guitar. he's truly great and played some rippin' stuff. (but, for a lesson on how much better a guitarist can be and still be steeped in the same kind of stuff that any number of country guitarists and r&b guys are, i wish i had a video of robben ford at the ryman a couple weeks ago. he made james burton and steve cropper look like kindergarteners. just think if he got on, say, dierks bentley's record and they just let him loose.)
anyway, it was pretty good and now i have to find a copy of those four discs from somebody.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 14:04 (eighteen years ago) link
anyway, on beefheart, i always thought "doc" peaked higher, but "ice cream" had a droll charm, esp. in the amazing interaction of guitars and drums on the title track, which really extends blues rhythms into something new.
xp
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 14:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Rum, Sodomy and the Lash probably has the greater individual songs, Red Roses For Me has more energy, and I end up skipping forward less when I'm listening to RRFM.
The Poguetry In Motion EP is a marvellous thing, also; not sure where that's been reissued, but two of the four songs "Rainy Night In Soho" / "The Body Of An American" stand with their very best. The other two aren't too bad, either.
― Tim (Tim), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link
sort of gentry or big and rich lite, sentimental, the usual problems with women, playing way beyond their leauge, and arythymic singing, an inability to keep the energy up and wow are the lyrics just awful:for some red heat real fast picken turbo grass areosmith or cootton eyed joe a little star light moonshine down home party time and let it go with my countrfied show...
these people are from grand prarie alberta, i thnik, which means all of the (innumerable) southern/small town signifers strike me as posing without committing
grand prarie has got 60k people.
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 17:26 (eighteen years ago) link
(where is the coutnry about being broke and homeless even if you are a rig pig making 100k a year, i mean grand prarie is prime oil country, and with the insane prices, the drinking, the lack of housing, the fucking and the gambling, plus working 70 hour weeks, and thousands of people from newfoundland, you would figure there would be a whole subculture of oil songs...there is one by corb lund, but there should be more)
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 17:29 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 00:30 (eighteen years ago) link
They're all now on the Rum Sodomy And The Lash CD. I used to own the EP on vinyl, and got rid of it somewhere along the line; nice to have those tracks again. I thought I had another EP, too, with "A Pair Of Brown Eyes" and "Muirshin Durkin" (one of their best tracks ever, now on the Red Roses CD), but AMG doesn't seem to list that anywhere, so it must be long forgotten. And I associate those two EPs with two Fear And Whiskey-era Mekons EPs I had copies of way back in my Army days (whilst reviewing both Red Roses and Fear and Whiskey for the Voice in my spare time): Crime And Punishment and Slightly South of The Border (not to mention the even greater and I assume rarer English Dancing Master, from a few years before, when not even critics cared about the Mekons) Why was I so quick to purge my shelves in those days? Sigh. I will likely never see them again.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 02:03 (eighteen years ago) link
I really really wish those faceless dolts would go away.
Now playing: my sleeper pick for country (absurdly broadly defined) album of 2006: The Memory Band, Apron Strings on DiCristina. They've zenned into the Fairport tone and soul, the fiddle player is beyond awesome and "I Wish I Wish" is a beautiful transformation of a traditional ballad that's also the best possible fuck you to re-virginizing evangelicals everywhere.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 06:13 (eighteen years ago) link
there first album cover featured shotguns...
i dont know the memory bands
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 08:14 (eighteen years ago) link
One still bumps into those old Sin Records era Mekons things over here now and again, I haven't played mine in forever, though I think fondly of them. I don't think I've ever even seen a copy of "The English Dancing Master", I don't think many of those CNT things ever made it far south, the indie distribution networks in early 1980s Britain weren't what they later became. I had half an idea that there had been a reissue of CNT-era Meeks stuff, perhaps that was just "The Mekons Story".
It seems that Greil Marcus was the only person alive who cared about "The Mekons Story" when it came out.
― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 10:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 11:05 (eighteen years ago) link
And, will point out that the entire Mandrell tribute "She Was Country....Cool" is pretty fine, LeAnn Rimes does fine with the filthy "If Lovin' You Is Wrong" (kinda skips over the line about "married men," like she didn't want to get into that too much!), Sara Evans avows how her gardener or dance instructor or husband, even, can eat "Crackers" in her bed any time, and Blaine Larsen sounds great too. Only clinker is Randy Owen, whose Alabama shit stunk up an otherwise great show, that Cropper tribute I mentioned upthread. Never could abide that stuff.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 17:28 (eighteen years ago) link
anne mccue's record, finally gave it a good listen. about a B. sometimes she rocks out and it works, sometimes it just sounds constrained and polite. pretty good overall but nothing to write home about that I hear. more hooks, baby, you got the looks...
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 16 November 2006 05:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Not familiar with Original Sin. I've got a couple hodgepodgy odds-and-sods CDs (I Have Been To Heaven And Back: Hen's Teeth And Other Lost Fragments of Unpopular Culture Vol. 1 and Where Were You: Hens Teeth Etc Etc Vol. 2 that include sundry rare early tracks among sundrier live ones and so on; somewhere in storage I also have Punk Rock, I think it's called, where they entertainingly re-record a bunch of their punk-era stuff -- my Fear and Whiskey CD leaves that great album intact; a few of those early tracks also show up on the two-disc Heaven And Hell: The Very Best of the Mekons, which also has all I'll ever need of their widely acclaimed '90s and '00s stuff, which I've honestly never really understood the appeal of), but anyway, I think with those early EPs, I also miss the actual objects, you know? Though I do think they were doing their best music back then; my favorite album by them {used to have it on vinyl, now on CD} is 1980's The Mekons, a/k/a {for no reason I've ever figured out} Devils Rats and Piggies. And I actually found The Mekons Story fun back in the day; wish I'd kept my vinyl copy of that one too. I assume Lester Bangs liked it too, since he wrote the liner notes, in which he claimed it to be the best album in the world this side of Metal Machine Music and/or something by Black Oak Arkansas, I forget which. So blah blah blah. After Edge of The World, for me, they had more trouble holding my attention.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Thursday, 16 November 2006 12:20 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Thursday, 16 November 2006 20:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:10 (eighteen years ago) link
pretty good, a bit genteel in the vocal department. really gets going about track 10 with "san franciscop mabel joy" and "you've always got the blues." who can tell me what the best newbury record from the '70s is? xgua gives neither one he grades in his '70s guide above B-. He says, "Never trust meteorological symbolism," and sure enough kacey jones' record has these rain sounds in it...
speaking of nashville humanist songwriters, bobby braddock has a new autobiography coming out, "down in oberndale," (pretty sure that's spelled correctly) which is pidgin southern for auburndale, fla., where he grew up. what are the great *songwriter* autobiographies?
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Thursday, 16 November 2006 23:26 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 17 November 2006 07:00 (eighteen years ago) link
And Pitbull's El Mariel didn't make the ballot in the "Hip-Hop" category. And Ms. Peachez "Fry That Chicken" didn't make the ballot under videos.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 17 November 2006 07:16 (eighteen years ago) link
The Kentucky Headhunters – Flying Under The Radar (CBUJ reissue)*Becky Hobbs – Best Of The Beckaroo Part 1 (Beckaroo reissue)Shawn Camp – Fireball (Skeeterbit)Hacienda Brothers – What’s Wrong With Right (Proper)Terry Lee Bolton – American Man (MRC)Alan Bros. Band – Brick By Brick (Alan Bros. Music)
New Bill Kirchen album sounds pretty dang good so far, too. Kentucky Headhunters just made the top 10 (not just country, everything) album list I submitted to the poll for my current employer. As did Leanne Kingwell's album, but we decided she's not country despite being indie right? As did Victory Brothers, who are definitely both, but they are not from A to L in the alphabet. As did Montgomery Gentry and Toby Keith, who are country but not indie (and Huck Johns, who may or might be country and/or indie, but probably not). And so on.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 17 November 2006 08:46 (eighteen years ago) link
Bill Kirchen's album is more rock and soul and blues than anything I've heard by him before. Great title (and rocking title track): Hammer Of The Honky Tonk Gods. He does "Devil With A Blue Dress On" as a slow shuffle, closes with an Arthur Alexander song.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Friday, 17 November 2006 12:04 (eighteen years ago) link
Oy vey. Me upthread:
I finally listened to this here Kasey Jones album of Mickey Newbury songs. Uggh. Useful if only to have all the worst versions of Newbury's songs in one place.
I think genteel is the best thing you can say about it. To my ears it's basically Mancini Americana, with a vocalist who may as well be parsing a phone book from Kazakistan, for all she seems to understand what she's singing.
The best Newbury album from the '70s remains Frisco Mabel Joy (and the tribute to that album that came out a few years ago >>>> than this Kacey Jones record). Most of his '60s and '70s stuff gets swamped in confused, faux-Sherrill arrangements (and I love real Sherrill), so buyer beware. But Mabel Joy is classic. Also, the double album, Live at Montezuma Hall anticipates his most intense and purely beautiful album, from the late '90s, the solo/live Nights When I Am Sane. This is not background music; he sings the living fuck out of every line.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 17 November 2006 14:50 (eighteen years ago) link
Alejandro Escovedo - The Boxing Mirror (Back Porch)Band Of Horses - Everything All The Time (Sub Pop)Bonnie 'Prince' Billy - The Letting Go (Drag City)Calexico - Garden Ruin (Quarterstick)Califone - Roots & Crowns (Thrill Jockey)Drive-By Truckers - A Blessing And A Curse (New West)Eef Barzelay - Bitter Honey (SpinART)Horse Feathers - Words Are Dead (Lucky Madison)Jenny Lewis w/ The Watson Twins - Jenny Lewis w/ The Watson Twins (Team Love)Jolie Holland - Springtime Can Kill You (Anti-)M. Ward - Post-War (Merge)Neko Case - Fox Confessor Brings The Flood (Anti-)
(the Plug Independent Music Awards link, if you're interested in voting.
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 17 November 2006 19:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― don (dow), Friday, 17 November 2006 20:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 17 November 2006 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link
Well, actually...Freaky Friday must be over now because the Kirchen album's sounding a lot duller to me today than it was a couple days ago. Just kinda stodgy and slow and colorless, and the title track doesn't really kick all that hard after all, and why the hell would anybody want to slow down "Devil With a Blue Dress On," come to think of it? So right now, I'm on the fence, but maybe it'll kick back in, or maybe it won't. What basically keeps happening is, well, it's in the five-disc changer now with the Game (clunky rap voice, ocassionally tasty and tasteful retro-soul backup, sounds very Dr. Dre a lot of it no matter what Dre's involvement was or wasn't, but I never gave much a shit about Dre give or take a couple songs so I doubt I'll have much more patience with this thing), Yabby You (who sounds warm and dubby and greater than I would have guessed), Borat (just saw the movie, which was slightly disappointing though still frequently hilarious but maybe the disappointment was just that it had been built up so much by so many people, but at any rate i also just realized today that the soundtrack is a compilation, and track #7 is beautiful, and i think it's by o.m.f.o. but it's hard to tell because there are not the same number of titles on the cover as tracks on the cd, since some of the tracks are just snippets of dialouge and stuff, so you can't just count down to the seventh title, which is "grooming pubis", and also "o kazakhastan" which ends the movie sounds more like laibach than most of the national anthems on laibach's own new album) and joe gruschecky (ex of the iron city houserockers, and his new album features bruce springteen on a few tracks and while i have no doubt that this album must blow out of the water that springsteen seeger covers album which must be the most boring idea for an album of the year even though i didn't listen to the thing since life is too fucking short, but gruschecky is still not writing them like he was in 1980 or 1981 and his band barely rocks at all, dude really needs to befriend kenny aranoff or somebody, though sometimes there's some passable drama in joe's oily sobersided sincerity and the guitar buildups in a way that a couple of the tracks like "safe at home" for instance might sound decent in a "rescue me" episode or perhaps a scene from "the wire" with mcnulty fucking up again), and oftimes when a kirchen song comes on i think it's gruschecky by mistake, which is frankly not a good sign.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 00:53 (eighteen years ago) link
and the more I hear of the new Intocable album Cruce de Caminos a.k.a. Crossroads the more I fall in love with it. Johnny Lee Rosas might have the best voice in America, because it's not quite perfect but DAMN he delivers the goods. hilariously, when they do a "pop" version of huge hit single "Por Ella," it lays on the country signifiers so thick that I think maybe they actually consider modern country to be the real sound of "pop" in the U.S. but sadly for y'all, it's all in Spanish, so you won't really care about it. (P.S. I am an asshole tonight.)
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:43 (eighteen years ago) link
The Game and Gruschecky now replaced in the changer with Fairyland (French-I-think metal band on Napalm) and new Ying Yang Twins.
"One More Day" on the Kirchen album does have a nice Dock Boggs era white country blues feel to it, I guess. And I do like the Arthur Alexander cover. So I haven't written the thing off quite yet.
I've been considering springing for the Intocable CD, actually. I probably won't mind the Spanish of it if the tunes are catchy enough.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 01:45 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:31 (eighteen years ago) link
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― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:44 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:52 (eighteen years ago) link
Sounds like a hell of a lot of work to get through...(What do they think they are, a hip-hop group or something?) (I hate great values!)
Kirchen's "Hammer of The Honky Tonk Gods" title cut kicks (or at least "signifies kicking") in a Junior Brown kind of way, I guess. There's something sorta deluded about it -- half of Nashville rocks harder; hell, Kellie Pickler might rock harder -- but it's not bad.
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 02:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Haikunym (Haikunym), Sunday, 19 November 2006 03:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 19 November 2006 06:21 (eighteen years ago) link
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Sunday, 19 November 2006 08:18 (eighteen years ago) link
kirchen's record has the same faults as his show i saw this fall. he's real good for about two songs. his supposedly awesome guided tour of pop where he interpolates all the licks he knows is actually pretty great, but seemed empty even with a couple beers in me. you kind of wish he'd go johnny guitar watson and write more songs about more interesting and perhaps raffish reality. the songs blur in my mind. the curse of reverence and "americana" and all that, but he's been at it for a while just like nick lowe, who used to write about more interesting and raffish reality but now is a very good genre artist. we all love arthur alexander, man. (i love nick lowe, but the last record of his i found remotely interesting was "party of one," which is what, 1990?)
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 19 November 2006 15:14 (eighteen years ago) link
(Hey Frank brought the album up! I guess I should put all this on the world music thread too. I'm not sure what it has to do with country, though yeah, there's a twang in the music now and then, and didn't one of you guys vote for Gogol Bordello in a Nashville Scene poll once? This CD belongs on a shelf near them, Kultur Shock, Balkan Beatbox, etc, unless like me you file in alphabetical order.)
And my new maybe-favorite on Kirchen's CD is "Skid Row in My Mind."
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 15:19 (eighteen years ago) link
ha ha, for me it was labour of lust in 1979! (though i guess i gave nick the knife or whatever a fairly mixed review for my college paper in missouri when it came out, a few years later.)
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link
― xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 19 November 2006 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link
ghostfinger, a nashville (actually murfreesboro, tn.) band, does really cool country-rock pastiches. the singer sounds like jagger or arthur lee or some white guy trying to be soulful, and it's mostly funny. they get doleful and sometimes the rockers don't quite work, but "moon" alternates sections of fake-rock and country-rock quite effectively. can't make out what it is they're exactly trying to express, but get the feeling they're a bit more than the usual history lesson. it's been a good year for nashville pop bands--lone official, the features, ghostfinger and i guess lambchop, too, have all released good records. certainly, lone official's "tuckassee take" made my no depression top 20 new releases.
and i have to say that i've listened to neko case's record (which also made my ND list) as much as i have anything this year; the songs are better than i initially thought, and she sustains a *mood* throughout that sorta skirts desolation--the line about driving past the beautiful flooded fields resonates as they say with my experience. and it's one of the great records in 6/8, a time signature she manipulates savvily and which suggests, i guess, the timelessness (or the immersion in memory) she's going after.
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Monday, 20 November 2006 15:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 20 November 2006 20:34 (eighteen years ago) link
So this Dixie Chick flick, Shut Up and Sing, is playing in town. Should I go? That whole brouhaha seems like decades ago.
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 23 November 2006 02:50 (eighteen years ago) link
did the ND Ballots go out already?
― pinkmoose (jacklove), Thursday, 23 November 2006 11:42 (eighteen years ago) link
Do we know yet if the Scene poll is dead? Is Himes gonna do it elsewhere? I mean, he's got the rolls...
And I know this has been chattered about elsewhere, but I never got a clear answer: what's to become of Pazz n Jop?
― Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Thursday, 23 November 2006 15:09 (eighteen years ago) link
New George Strait album Twang. The First single "Living For The Night" is so classic. Any thoughts?
― Jacob Sanders, Friday, 14 August 2009 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link