BEARDO DISCO (finally fixed for vahid) - not idjuts / lindstrom - harvey, rub'n'tug, map of africa

things we don't know like

what is WHATEVER WE WANT records all about?

who are BOBBIE MARIE, QUIET VILLAGE PROJECT and OTTERMAN EMPIRE? are they also dj harvey + thomas bullock?

also where can one find the FRAGMENTS OF FEAR (mixed w/ blood by quiet village project) cdr?

I've heard Harvey talked about round here but I think the only thing I have of his is a great remix of Extended Family's "Ulysses" from back in the day (er, 1998). On a Jon Carter mix so I had long assumed he made hard-edged tribal house or something. Would his Ministry of Sound mix be the one to get or is that too old to be representative?

anyway it was called Musica Obscura presents Cosmic Disco. I thought the sound quality was maybe a little iffy, though. I didn't buy it.

his current sound is sort of like theo parrish meets joey negro or something. he runs towards the spacier, murkier, more deconstructed end of the disco re-edits spectrum. like an andrew weatherall (circa rehab, mid 90s sabres sound) type take on the idjut boys re-edits sound.

i LOVE the rub'n'tug mix on eskimo. as much or more than the dj naughty mix! it's similar in vibe to the glimmers dj kicks mix, except w/ much more vintage stuff and much less current stuff.

it's also way noisier than you'd expect, in the "noise annoys" sense. the opening track is like full-on tribal drumming a la 23 skiddoo or something. lots of the other tracks are tweaked w/ filters or played too loud into the red (very much like theo parrish does on his live mixes, but w/ more abrasive source material the end result is ... quite bracing!)

anyway to repeat: i LOVE the rub'n'tug mix!

could a mod maybe change the thread title to BEARDO DISCO, especially since i think we are (inevitably, since even so much of the "new" stuff is covers and re-edits, see map of africa) going to swerve into a discussion of vintage beardo disco, sooner or later.

Chromeo mix is like it's polar opposite - anal, neat 80s stuff. Exactly as you think it'd sound. (Although I've only listenen d to it once so far so I may be wrong)

Out of the two I'd say go for the R'n'T first.

Are there any stores in the US that stock this stuff? I know me and everyone I talk to in NY orders from Flexx and Picadilly and the like.

Yeah this sounds like exactly what I was hoping for. I like the way that all these different Eskimo-related comps seem like stars that form different parts of a larger constellation, each distinct and individual but forming part of a larger vision/mission.

With Campfire I'm imagining something like a more a rustic version of the awesome peak in The Glimmers' DJ Mix that goes "Feel Like I Feel" --> "Impi (Dub)" --> "The Groove Machine (Idjut Boys Mix)" --> "Cassette". Is that off-base?

check the ysi thread

not sure if you're talking about the bootlegs or the newer stuff, but I saw the Cosmic Disco boot at Mondo Kim's

some other related but not quite beardo stuff like Lee Douglas (Rong), Padded Cell, Emperor Machine I've found at Turntablelab. I guess that's more like the "idjuts / lindstrom" side of things. I'm not 100% clear on where the line is being drawn here.

The thing I love so much about Cosmic is that it represents a similarly broad taste in music and a sort of meaningful eclecticism that I always try to put into my DJ sets. The ability to play weird new wave records mixed with classic disco, african percussion, italo etc and create this vibe is just so beautiful. Gomma doesn't seem to be hosting the mixes anymore, so I'll YSI one or two.

Lee Douglas starts his new party tonight with Duane from Other Music. Basically, we killed off Alldisco and split saturdays at Capones with past guests/friends. 1 saturday a month will be Jeremy who started Alldisco, one will be Duane and Doug, 1 will Be Dan Balis and Eugene Cho (Dan has house records out and I think plays on the Lee Douglas record, as well as one of the Metro Area 12"s) and I forget who gets the last saturday.

http://flexx.org/mix/tutu33.mp3

and I'm uploading one of the gomma-hosted mixes to YSI now.

http://web.tiscali.it/mix_archives/?

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=31GI1HJDH4D203MQ0ITNHB3AQ9

The Emperor Machine - "Aimee Tallulah Is Hypnotised" - just can't stop listening to it.

2 quiet village 12"s. i'm not so hot on these. quiet village is matt from radio slave and joel martin.

2 map of africa 12"s. both of these are great with 'dirty lovin' of the first one being a particular fave. as far as i know, map of africa is thomas bullock and harvey though i heard the second one doesn't feature harvey. 'black skin blue eyed boys' sounds as if a young lemmy is doing the singing

2 bobbie marie 7"s. bobbie marie is thomas and some other guy. the first 7" is a really stoopid punk funk track with lots of farmyard noises. the second one has a great track on it that sounds a bit like suicide jamming with the gun club.

the last releases is by otterman empire and is a re edit thingie with a doors edit on one side and a dire straits on the other!

i keep hearing how hard these are to pick up but they seem to have reasonably good distribution in the uk.

1. Prins Thomas-Goettsching (Full Pupp)
2. Stratus-Looking Glass (Reverso 68 Mix) (Klein)
3. Jungle Wonz-The Jungle
4. Chicken Lips-Sweet Cow (Lindstrom Mix)
5. Greenman-Discotheque (Soul Jazz)
6. Kohib-Truger (Beat Service)
7. Black Dice-Smiling Off (Luomo Mix) (DFA)
8. Sebastian Tellier-La Ritournelle (Jake Bullit Mix) (Lucky Number)

Sad to hear about the Alldisco split, Dan. You guys DJ'ing together was always guaranteed fun.

can someone YSI this?

Also, someone should mashup "Maps" with some José G, somehow, and make us lame indie kids' year.

some of my favorite unexpected things that have popped up on the cosmic mixes from the tiscali site:

jj cale at 45
dave mason - wervin' (with r. wyatt on vocals) (you can dl another track from that lp as my track of the day at the newly minted http://www.dreamchimney.com/tracks/profile/captain it'll be up 'til monday). there's a few other dudes on there that post some great stuff if you don't know.
art of noise - paranoia
papa's got a brand new pigbag at 33

as far as that campfire mix, i guess it's kind of "rad" that they left all their crap mixes and skips and yanking all the volume levels up and down in there, but it's pretty unlistenable to my ears. they play some great stuff, no doubt, but it doesn't have much continuity for home listening. i'm sure it was a different story if you were there and i'm sure those guys could give a fuck...

i much prefer the piles of baldelli and loda mixes currently on my hd (courtesy of the tiscali site, where all the flyers came from). check out baldelli's interview at
http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/LECTURERS.95.0.html too. great stuff.

the capone's saturday schedule now is as follows:

1st saturday: k. life walks + friends - tons of connects in the mid-late 80's miami bass scene. him and a bud did the tape edits on the beat club "security". nowadays he plays sweet disco and club classics.

2nd saturday (tonight) get into somethin' w/doug lee aka lee douglass + duane (negroclash). plus twilite tone and a live performance by black spade this week.

3rd saturday me (jeremy campbell) + guests. this week matt radune.

4th saturday: cabaret featuring escort (dan balis, eugene cho and darius mahgen who have a record coming out on environ). darshan from metro area plays with them this month.

i am listening to the dj loda mix that dan linked to above now. cosmic is definitely the right word!! excellent set...

i play this soundtrack a lot, but i've never seen the film. needless to say, tv volume is real high right now.

i don't know if that's "beardo house", but Carpenter certainly falls within that bumrocksy "LES dollar bin" aesthetic.

I have an Escape From LA UK 12" of drum and bass versions of the theme in my out pile at the minute. It's crap.

there's this italo/kosmiche/random obscuro DJing approach, then the Pica Pica Pica/Lift Boys/BD Cone Toaster/3xc3pt3r (dubious) beatmaking. I see them existing in parallel, but it's frustrating how they won't meet.

where is the point of common origin? Gottsching?

But that's the best kind of movement! And all we need to do is get someone to write an article and then it'll be real! I might do it for Stylus.

Carpenter gets total props from the Italo fiends.

I knew this, I was just started imagining if he made a disco concept album with vocals (by famous people) and stuff. Someone should do a Broadway musical of Escape from New York or They Live.

I'd love a YSI Telephone Thing.

you NEED this album: Unit Black Flight - Infiltration and Extraction

Also, does Betty Botox fit into this Beardo Disco?

time for a new eyboard!

i don't have 'black skin, blue eyed boys' digitised.

for those who absolutely need an id for something from one of those mixes, if you yousendit a clip and post it on djhistory, you can usually get an answer pretty quick. the most extensive cosmic threads on there mostly happened back in '03, so those guys have had the time to figure a lot of it out. it's only failed me once...

they also had a thread on beards recently.
http://www.djhistory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13672

the relationship between italo disco and the cosmic scene, if you believe baldelli, was pretty nil. he says he didn't like or follow much of that stuff and was much more into the german electronic stuff. i think he said sky was his favorite label in that red bull interview.

for the tiscali site, you have to email the guy for a password. you may also have to download the opera browser if you aren't handy with ftp.

i think somebody once said, "it's not what you say, it's how you say it"

applies equally to djing i'd say.

otm. i much prefer it slowed down. not part of the cosmic thang but probably the most famous example of a song being slowed down and then becoming massive as a result is 'flesh' by a split second which was actually re released in its' 33.333 + 8 version.

so, aside from jim burgess, i can't think of many examples of american djs doing the 45 @ 33 thing back in the day. anyone know of any other examples. i wonder if that would have happened more if it was more common to press 12"s at 45 here.

but some of the other new beat records were part of the cosmic thang? I listened to that Tutu mix yesterday and was surprised to hear Logic System and Carlos Peron one after the other.

I think the Cosmic thing was about whatever the hell fit. There's also crossover with the WBMX DJs, who certainly play faster and more italo-disco, but also play a lot of the new wave/pop oddities that show up in the Cosmic mixes as well.

i think the fact that most european 12"s are pressed at 45rpm as graham gouldman mentions is a big factor. i think djs all over europe have always done this. the reverse also happened - when the first breakbeat rave records (eg shut up and dance) started coming out, there were so few of them that it became common to play instrumentals of us hip hop records at 45 to fill out a set. i still play schoolly d instrumentals at 45 instead of 33.

interesting... i can't say it really makes me feel like dancing. maybe in the right time and place - or with the right drugs.

i have to say it's much easier for me to like something slowed than sped up, but that just makes it more satisfying to find something that works sped up. i was messing around with the break from james gang funk #49 today. sounds pretty nice at 45 and then there's a pause at the end where the guitar comes back in where you can switch it back to 33 without being able to tell. some dj somewhere has to have figured that one out before though.

conversely, with speeding things up, you get this condensed, almost shimmery or polished feel. a bit disconcerting sometimes.

YES PLEASE

BIG BEAR / FULL PUPP / HAIRY CLAW / BEAR FUNK / BEAR ENTERTAINMENT / ETC family

RONG MUSIC / THICK AS THIEVES / BEN COOK / DJ SPUN / DJ HARRY / ETC family

FREESTYLE LTD AND OTHER EVEN MORE OBSCURE RE-EDIT LABELS

the elusive UNIVERSAL INDIANN

A THEORETICAL MEETING-OF-MINDS WHERE CLASH+BLONDIE : RAMMELZEE + GRANDAMASTER FLASH :: HARVEY + IDJUTS, ETC : MOODYMANN + THEO P

The DJing on that Rub 'n' Tug CD sounds more like old Block Party hip hop tapes than it does any regular house DJing, a feeling intensified by the inclusion of the Bronx Dogs track that mashes up parts from Bambaataa's Death Mix

Also, the Re-sdit scene'll surely only get bigger as more people use digital equipment, whether CDs or Ableton Live or whatever (meaning, no need to press 'em to vinyl.)

Does Gamm fit into all of this? I guess not quite.

re: the bit above about this not really being an actual "movement" - it isn't, in so far as it's been labeled and people can knowingly subscribe or unsubscribe to it - but I'd wager there are hundreds of DJs and would-be DJs out there who get off on krautrock and psych and prog and who knows what else, and also happen to want to spin beats - and then end up mixing them all up. That's really why I find this thread interesting, a place to talk about these kinds of incidents.

The only reason I initially considered it a movement was after seeing Harvey, seeing Run-N-Tug and thinking huh, a bunch of dudes with longish hair and beards playing the Doors' American Prayer mixed with disco.

To me there's a very specific aesthethic that's hard to define, but actually relates to indie-rocks recent ironic or not interest in so-called Yacht Rock, just an interest among disco DJs playing not only classic rock, but smoothly produced 70s stuff and even 80s stuff that was written off as being pretty cheesy for quite a few years. Sure, Steely Dan's Peg and the like have always been dance/disco classics...or have they? But it's deeper then that, and I find myself playing all these classic rock covers...Locomotive Breath by Cat Gang, Les Rocket's On the Road Again, For Your Love by Chilly, down to more conventional disco covers of rock songs like Queen Samantha's The Letter or Revelacion's House of the Rising Sun. I think maybe it's all indicative or rockers getting into disco, whether for the first time, or long-time disco djs rediscovering their childhood rock faves and just having the freedom to mix it all up. I think Harvey helped pave the way to that, at least from what mixes I've heard.

On a practical side, especially when playing to rock crowds, a lot of this stuff works really well.

i think that optimo are different to the cosmic/disco crowd, psychout seems to put forward their view of psychedelic in a similar way to chuck eddy's definitions of genre. i think optimo have a magpie approach that wedges disparate things into their own vision.

lindstrom/terje/idjuts et al are purists through and through, and i think that beardo house does have that feel of soulboys with baggier, browner knitwear. and i think they fit into the disco/cosmic canon in a way that optimo just don't want to. i love both approaches tho,

the todd terje edits i have are the best of the new crop, i think. he thickens the tracks and extends them without you really noticing as a listener. he reminds me of danny krivit in that respect, who is the don of the edit style. i like terje's new-age picks too, 'dancing digits' and dave samuels' 'dance class'

who did that edit of andreas vollenweider's 'belladonna'? that is so nice!

todd terje's edits are really great. his tangoterge edits on supreme have been particularly good. his turtles, 'aquarius' and kraftwerk edits change those tracks but at the same time make you think they should always have sounded like that.

I think, on the big pitcure level, dominique, I always say that music seeemed really, and I say this a lot, "stratified and ghettoized" through the 90s. Even within genres there were distinct threads without tons of people crossing their boundaries, while some of the more interesting acts that did totally fell through the cracks and dissapeared. I think post 2000 there's been a big breakdown in those walls.

the track cosmic is one of my faves. kind of done in a ron hardy style. could up it if anyone's interested. anyone got any others to share?

who would have thought greg khin band would have been in my crate five years ago ?
not me... i also suppose as i get older i understand the need for nostalgia and i gives me
some perspective on how (too) many years i've been doing this...

incidentally, there's a steppers scene in chicago with djs who have the same ambition
to melt the faces and hearts of dancers with obscure tunes... new kids on the block (extended!) anyone? i guess that's a whole other thread...

really? i guess i haven't heard enough of them. that cosmic one is super repetitive, similar to the stuff that ron hardy's nephew has been putting out, but i didn't hear a lot of seams at a casual listen and i don't know the original, so who knows. maybe is a product of doing them on a reel-to-reel? i image it's a lot more complicated to do crazy edits, but then steinski and the latin rascals managed ok.

i heard one of them is a silver apples tune. anything interesting done with it?

btw, someone posted the rub n tug beastie boys remix here:
http://www.djhistory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13843

Like why must there be these discussions of new non-house/techno DJ forms without someone suggesting they are replacing the latter because it's stale etc. No offence to gato, it was just that post that got me thinking about countless articles over the years.

Is it a self loathing thing? Why must these new trends REPLACE house and techno? Maybe it just shows how old house is by now that people now constantly talk of its impending to death, like rock.

See I think the reason for the success of this stuff is to do with the a similar back to basics ethic which has had a real presence in house and techno too recently. The way dance music, or whatever we need to call some of the newer forms, beat music which DJs are playing sort of bleeds from genre to genre at the moment, and this seems to me what is making it all so good.

There are so many "unifiers" at the moment, like for example "Eurodans" by Todd Terje, it's really peculiar to have the older DJs in Dublin who play alot of funk and soul and disco in bar type settings and the young guys all talking about the same record, I mean utterly peculiar.

I dunno, I just don't like to isolate this sound from house and am probably way over paranoid about any biase towards real instrument music, not sure if it's fair to accuse gato of such a biase, I just was keen to bring up my initial point.

ronan. i don't think there is any bias towards real instruments, at least i hope not. for me, house and techno aren't being replaced, they are just being enhanced by playing other things along side them that seem to sit well amongst the current sounds. it's funny that every time i play something like say 'supernature' someone will ask what it is, presuming it is something new.

i don't really get the fuss with 'eurodans' though. imo, he has done far better tracks that haven't caused nearly as much buzz.

anyway rub'n'tug already use 303 tracks in their mixes, harvey never really "left" house, etc etc ... so it's sort of jumping to conclusions to posit a house / beardo divide.

we're already halfway to detroit techno by playing manuel gottsching and so on.

west coast house was there 10 yrs ago w/ respect to sampling boogie records, post-punk and ESG.

etc etc ...

also still waiting on the YSI for the rub'n'tug mix for aNYthing ... (AHEM)

and at the whatever we want website, there's promise of an mp3 store, fingers crossed...

if you look back you'll see I said a version of these sentiments as well, but to clarify, for myself as well as this thread, when I talk about the stratification of stuff, it's not to knock a specific genre. I'm as into "house music all night long" as anyone, but at the same time, part of me digs the broader approach. I really enjoy the sets that I do and am suprised that lots of people don't, that they'd prefer to hear me just play old-school hip-hop all night, or 80s all night, or house all night, or detroit techno all night. I'm trying hard to play all kinds of stuff in a way that works and makes sense and am suprised more people don't feel that. Maybe now they're coming around.

The ironic thing is that during the birth of House, it was an exceptionally broad/open/eclectic thing, whether you're talking about the deep house Knuckes/levan kind of thing pulling from disco, rock, world music whatever...or the WBMX mash-up of deep house, italo-disco, pop music and early house. I just find most "house" djs have a much more narrow view.

I find it funny that it works a parallel path of the rocker/celebrity DJ mash-up can't DJ "eclectic aesthethic".

I know stirmonster hates the term "eclectic", perhaps that connotation is why?

And not to get all DJ theory or whatever, but I'm not saying my eclecticism always has to-or wants to-flow so smoothly...jarring changes in style/tempo/volume, etc, can be great.

What is this in reference to?

No matter where you look, whether it be DJs in the small venues or super-clubs, everyone seems to be building complimentary genres into their pre-existing formulas. Look at the evolution of the Fabric series...

I wasn't so much seeking purism as a rule, tho I guess I like Lindstrom/Reverso/Chacona/Stranger etc etc mainly for just being new and interesting ways to skin a cat. Listening to that Lindstrom at Our Disco mix it strikes me how raw some of this stuff sounds, it's really close to some of the early house tracks, that kind of faintly psychotic actual "acid" and tribal feel.

So often the stuff that constituted nu-disco that I'd hear would be really slickly produced and you just think you might as well listen to house.

I wasn't worried that this style would replace house etc, just sometimes the discourse surrounding new forms of DJ music always implies this. And that does an injustice to the new stuff too.

The eclectic thing is interesting cos I sort of hate the term too, in so far as what it means to the man on the street, and also its status as a sort of holy grail, I mean people love to say "I like all kinds of music".

That said Dan's points are totally reasonable, I do think it takes a certain type of DJ to play a real mix of stuff, also I find the fuller the club the more I tend to plough a similar furrow. I mean I think anyone who's DJed well knows you have to vary it even within say "house music all night long" or people drift, but sometimes it can be a weirdly conservative force, the dancefloor!

I'm not saying I ever play stuff I don't like, just certain venues tend to have a certain crowd, and I find myself playing to that.

Oh yeah and finally about "Eurodans", I think it's pretty cool tho not as fresh as some of his other stuff, it's very Metro Area, just with that sloppiness added. The B-side is probably more interesting if not as big a hit.

sorry, didn't mean to infuriate anyone as to the current state of house music. but that being said, yeah, i find it as annoying as
the current wave of polyester smooth jazz. of course i'm painting
with HUGE GIANT LARGE unrelenting brushes here, but it's just my opinion and nothing more... i guess my point was brought up by one
of the worst offenders in my book, kerri chandler... when he did that "raw" track... he even said himself... and music journalists do indeed overstate things as trends... it sells magazines and keeps
them employed. my mother loves "eurodans" thanks to that times piece on the next new new newiest...

also, i DO think mixing matters and it takes a certain charm in order to connect all the dots properly... again, there are many different approaches...most djs (professional) get a booking agent and get slapped with some type of journalist jargon and leave it at that... thats what makes for on the floor club shit so boring in my mind...i suppose i am indeed looking for new avenues for something i find "old hat"...but in my case more like "old hater."

btw/ how many of you are musicians ? i've been a drummer since i was a kid...i used to have a preference for instrumental/experimental music and now my appreciation is toward song form... maybe that evolution as a player(hater) has something to do with it...?

(i'm guilty of the following... so jump-in... i probably deserve it ... ;))

when it comes to AM GOLD, rupert holmes, or our imaginary band CHARDONNAY as well as christopher cross, loggins messina and the like the term is not YACHT ROCK... besides soulstrut.com came up with MARINA ROCK even before all that mess. My peoples records store crews here in detroit are calling all of you out by like five/six years... the journo-term is "DIVORCED DAD" music. learn it. love it. feel it. then replace it with the next thing...

but the sencerity test is like the scene from the film FLASH GORDON where he had to stick his arm in the creepy log, or THE NEVERENDING STORY (btw/ LIMAHL is also a style of music... possibly the next thing?) where he needed an open heart to pass through the gate... i'm serious about this michael mcdonald stuff. i grew up on a sailboat... no hating...

carry on...

Keeping an open mind and having a large pool of things to play from can never be bad, even if it's a large pool of the same genre (like house.) I know that some people like it when it sounds like the DJ is playing the same record all night but I don't. Disco and house were built on playing non-disco and non-house records in a certain way that made them disco or house bcz there weren't any (or barely any) real disco or house records tat the beginning of those genres.

raw patrick's post has reinded me i haven't played 'ace of spades' out in waaaay too long. must remedy this.

That's why I had a hard time engaging with house in the 90s. It went from those 80s sets that would have disco and funk and new wave in them to DJs who would only spin deep or tribal or hard house sets, and nothing else. I don't even consider those niche sounds to be house.

I always thought house was "anything and everything you can dance to..."

but I guess I was wrong....

The ironic thing is that during the birth of House, it was an exceptionally broad/open/eclectic thing, whether you're talking about the deep house Knuckes/levan kind of thing pulling from disco, rock, world music whatever...or the WBMX mash-up of deep house, italo-disco, pop music and early house. I just find most "house" djs have a much more narrow view.

Also, during the last decade or so house has found a way to integrate previous instruments and their related technical/improvisational proficiency. The same can't be said for techno, recently grown out of aimless tribal banging and endlessy fascinated with the sound of it's own postIDM-twiddling Euro-kraut navel.

People here also keep mistaking house music with jazzish, 100-CD-changer-in-the-BMW type lounge drivel. Or forgetting that house, like techno or most music for that matter, has the usual 95% to 5% shit-to-good ratio (and then conveniently forgetting to discuss the top 5% altogether). Keep looking the other way folks
/rant

sorry i don't have much to contribute thus farly, but great thread, carry on... (though i must say, i don't get the fuss over map of africa's "black skin blue eyed boys," i'd much rather listen to the original. shit, i used to play it quite a bit, actually! before i went all euro-kraut navel-gazish, that is.)

Confused about wording here but if you're getting at what I think you're getting at could you supply some examples that aren't, say, "jazzish, 100-CD-changer-in-the-BMW type lounge drivel"?

Also - wasn't looking for an argument. I know what I like as far as house that's influenced by the musics you mentioned. And I do like a lot of it.

Not the main ingredient, but one of them. At least that's always been my understanding....

from a personal perspective, having been a house and techno dj for ten years, i had to do something else for my own sanity (which i very nearly lost in the rave years). i still love going out to the odd night of proper house music but when i am playing it, my attention tends to wander after about 45 minutes. but, i don't think there should be any debate about purism vs the dreaded 'e' word. there is no right or wrong way.

This is my point precisely.

I'm saying that at present, sets by the likes of Chicken Lips or Chromeo or Jacques Lu Cont are to me much more fresh and inspiring (and in many ways traditional) house than anything the likes of Danny Tenaglia or Frankie Bones ever did (when they were doing house).....

Don't make me link to my epic and lugubrious dissertation on p vs e on Dissensus!

Anyone care to post some of his more ec***, er, diverse mix CDs?

if he thought that, he was right.

"[tony humphries] also wasn't averse to kooky and playful selections at certain points in the evening. 'he would play peter brown's "do you wanna get funky w/ me' and brass construction's "we can do it",' recalls [new jersey dj quincy] vaughn. 'we called it "sleaze time", because he'd play all of these funk, down tempo sleazy records, like pat metheney's "are you going with me", "cocaine in the brain" by dillinger and talking head's "born under punches"."

and yes, like every other late-disco-into-house DJ apparently he played lots of b52s and liquid liquid alongside the talking heads ... at least up until there were enough 4x4 garage records to fill a 10 hour night ...

maybe not a harvey, but certainly he at least had his idjuts-esque moments. (i hear the idjuts are big fans!)

(x post) Just responding to Vahid's statement that Steve Miller was huge at Zanzibar. I just didn't remember hearing his stuff or any rock the times I was there. Not that it's such a big deal in the end - just great memories - but I've been going out and clubbing in North Jersey/NYC for about 21 years now (I'm 37 this year) so, no, I wouldn't be pulling my experiences out of a book.

You know it's all for love...

There's a new white label on Feedelity, just called "Another Station", it's kind of erm........hands in the air piano eupohoria!

http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/PODCASTS.132.0.html

I prefer 'bearded house' to 'bearded disco' for some reason, even if it's not as right. People being into cosmic and Italo isn't that surprising, in the same way that a lot of people are into, say, 60s psych and Animated Egg type 60s psychsploitation now, whereas at the time the latter would have been totally uncool and even, maybe, a betrayal. Time erases tribal differences.

great site, thanks

From now on, we have to refer to the current sounds as:

Beardo Kosmiche Cosmicª

If you, or anyone else interested, still can't get 'em tomorrow leave a note here and I'll YSI 'em.

Cabaret is a new monthly party on the last Saturday of every month at Capone's. Featuring disco classico y obscura, tape edits, video loops, and unreleased goodies. Dress to sweat! With dj sets by Escort each month and a rotating cast of very special monthly guests. FREE!

this reminded me of seeing d@n h0ugland play the first track of Pavement's Watery Domestic at 33 (it was really good) and got me thinking, do excepter fit into this? i've only seen them once and never heard the records but they do some house beats, right?
maybe more since porkchop joined?

what do you think, excepter?

I think D@n H0ugl@nd needs to DJ more often. I've never heard the m@n play anything less than a killer set.

http://www.cybernetic-broadcasting.net/home/?page=mixage1

and listen to the Cybernetic radio station.

2 good and hip italo comps are Environ's Unclassics, and Irma's I-Robots.

The ZYX stuff is expansive and covers italo from the viewpoint of the eastern-european italo fans, who tend to like stuff a lot cheesier then most of us.

so I dunno if I missed it, but that aNYthing mixcd thing was finally posted ?

would love to hear it.

thanks

Nah, it never showed. I'd love to hear it.

I've got a review of that Campfire mix going up on Stylus, err, whenever they put it up.

i thought i knew the song until i heard the vocal version. makes it 100x better.

second, what's up with the "mixing / not mixing" red herring? the rub + tug mix, harvey's mixes, glimmer twins mixes - all perfectly beatmatched. ok rub+tug are a bit sloppy w/ the feedback. so what? so are plenty of other (non beardo) sound systems.

What is this "italo de ruggerio mix" Ronan? I'd definitely be interested. And I am definitely enjoying the Hague mix.

ok, let me try to distract y'all from italo by bringing up a couple of issues that will have some people frothing

is beardo the new big beat? is beardo indebted to big beat? i was listening to cut la roc's FSUK4 and i'm thinking - very beardo! lip service to rap, heavy funk+disco influence, lots of hip-hop cut-up influence.

second, where do electronic acts w/ strong rock influences fit in? greenskeepers? trabant? twinnie? captain comatose? seems sort of unfair to ignore these guys just because they don't use live drums / perc.

Alec D., music director of APT, made 2 volumes of italo mixes. Gomma hosted them for a while and I'm sure they're all over soulseek. Other Music sold them as well. I got mine as a gift from Italo himself.

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=08H87IPDG7BZK1PKGD8GLEF3WR

At 128kbps to cut down on the file size a bit. Sorry it took so long, the CD was squirreled away in a closet for some reason. Let me know if the YSI link expires and I'll re-up it.

http://www.kompakt-mp3.net/cwMP3Shop/images/temp/6d9d4698b6627c88dcf3ef6093b423e5.gif

01 BLEU [05:28]
02 INITIATE II [06:04]
03 ROCKERS [05:35]
04 MONITOR [06:24]
05 SURFERS [06:27]
06 SIMONE RIDES [06:12]
07 KING OFF [05:35]
08 CITE GRANDE TERRE [04:01]
09 POISSON MORT [01:16]
10 I OWE YOU (RMX) [04:37]
11 LOST [09:30]
12 BEAU MOT PLAGE (FREEFORM REFORM PT.1&2) [10:34]

i told him that i had listened to those interviews he gave on the red bull music academy site and he said, "that's great!... and... weird." he also once (6 or so months ago) gave me my favorite response ever when i had asked what record he was playing, "hey, this is great! what is it?" "I don't fucking care!" and then he laughed maniacally. i was a little hurt at first but then i realized that he probably actually didn't care what it was and was telling me that i maybe shouldn't either.

o, monday morning.

=)

(Joke! I'm looking forward to hearing this!)

The Flash & The Pan track is amazing though.

I always thought that Flash and the Pan were boogie rock. Since they're AC/DC related I should have known that they were a disco band as well.

(Repost the mix and I'll give you some info! I really wanna hear it so am blackmailing you.)

It didn't come with a tracklist, sorry- the disc is a promo for aNYthing (http://www.anewyorkthing.com/) simply called "Rub 'n' Tug volume 1." There's almost no info at all on the packaging. I got it at Turntable Lab a couple of months ago, they might still have copies.

love the music on the mix but put me in the "all the mistakes are annoying" camp

http://www.submerge.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=KSD-169&Category_Code=Kajmere

so to those who've heard both .... is the aNYthing mix better / worse than the one on Eskimo?

beardo - led zeppelin, santana, late-era who, jimi hendrix
not beardo - early-era who, the animals, the kinks, velvet underground

beardo - roxanne shante
not beardo - salt'n'pepa

beardo - bohannon
not beardo - chic

http://www.discopia.com/portal/issues/issue3/baldelli

Dazzle Ships
Jeremy Cambpell, Dan Selzer, Scott Zacharius
Monday 2/6
at Heathers, 506 e 13th st, near Ave A
starting at 8 o'clock
2 drinks for 1 till 9
2 dollar Tecate beer till 10.
bartending by the Drunken Sailor.

This is a one-off trial run, will hopefully do it more often. Small, nice bar, shitty sound, friendly like-minded bartender, early evening adventures in neo-Cosmic, pitch adjust abusing mood-setting. Slow disco, weird new wave, drunken ideas.

beardo - roxanne shante
not beardo - salt'n'pepa

interesting...i pasted and italicized this fragment of your post because at first i was going to ask you to explain, but i think i get it now. both artists seem tangential to the conversation here at least, but there really is a world of difference between the two.

dom's mentioned thread is here.

Some nice stuff...but a bit confusing. These things already existed...Space Disco is a term that's been used since the 70s. And as I mention above, Cosmic is it's own thing, a specific scene and aesthethic, that claimed to be very anti-Italo disco. You mention cosmic disco, but not Cosmic. Dominique...are you presenting this suggesting that Space Disco is an umbrella terms for all these thing, or has it already entered the lexicon?

=(

so yes, it's confusing

http://alldisco.net/playlistsaudio.shtml

here's what I played that night:

giorgio moroder - battlestar galactica
quartz - quartz
space project - conquest of the stars
cerrone - tripping on the moon
die doraus und die marinas - fred vom jupiter

erotic drum band - pop pop shoo wah
lipps inc. - funkytown
koto - japanese war games
man parrish - heatstroke
patrick cowley - get a little

casco - cybernetic love
cyber people - void vision
the parallax corporation - crocodiles in the sky
lime - angel eyes

duran duran - planet earth
telex - moskow diskow
vivien vee - remember
slick - space bass
lindstrom - i feel space
mr. flagio - take a chance
i-f - space invaders are smoking grass
gary numan - cars
jonzun crew - pack jam

tantra - hills of katmandu
x-ray connection - get ready (special freak mix)
kebekelektrik - magic fly
sylvester - stars
pluton and the humanoids - world invaders

model 500 - no ufo's
fingers inc. - distant planet
a guy called gerald - voodoo ray
isolee - my hi-matic

byrds - mr. spaceman

but check out the full list, the other djs are ok also.

Nice article. Pointed me towards some stuff I didn't know about, made me re-think some stuff I already had, and reminded me about some stuff i've been meaning to pick up.

I just dropped way two much on the new Quiet Village and Otterman Empire. I guess its drop way too much now or WAY WAY WAY too much a year or two down the road. Anyone know where I can find the 1st Quiet Village? Is it a lost cause?

-- Dominique (d_leon...), February 6th, 2006.

I'm going to go out on a wild limb here (not at all really) and suggest that maybe it's confusing because you are, in fact, confused about it yourself, because you basically mined this whole idea from Dan (who first pointed this out) and Vahid (who further developed the idea on this thread) and that's really lame, and definitely unethical.

Yes, the idea of beardo house is not something exclusively owned by anyone, as those individuals inclined to pay close attention to trends emerging in more general music genres will note new patterns all on their own, but your title shift from beardo house to "Space Disco" makes your alleged reporting highly suspect, because Space Disco is actually a term that has been used long before Lindstrom's day, and though posters on ILM can hardly make a claim to intellectual property rights, the fact is that you actually get paid for your articles (amount is irrelevant), so the fact that you published this work without at least offering to cite your sources seems both unfortunate and plagaristic.

ILM is a unique lab among the "for fun" internet forums, because while there's no doubt pretty much everyone on here is doing so for the love, it still none-the-less offers a goldmine of information from some highly credible sources (some known in larger circles as writers or musicians, some unknown but still brilliant writer/theorists in terms of music) and it would probably be a better idea for the writers on here to give credit where/when it's due.

(note to Dan: I make fun of "beardo house" in pending L&PT review)

(note...just referencing an old debate/discussion for good fun...)

http://beatresearch.blogspot.com/

x-post I agree about viewlexx btw

space disco = super dramatic italo about spaceships and shit
cosmic = "kozmische" music

dan, if i do you a ten hour edit of 'expressway to yr skull' can i have yr disco collection?

space disco = super dramatic italo about spaceships and shit

except it doesn't have to be italo.

although Cosmic includes kozmische. Check out any of the threads on djhistory or the Daniel Baldelli interviews.

space disco = pre-dates italo and was a major influence on italo. Most early italo is space disco (i.e., Tarzan Boy is NOT!) but not all space disco is italo!

The thing about viewlexx is they come from a more strict techno/electro background. Their italo-revitalizing I think certainly opened some of these doors, I think. But by now, it's all golden, I-F's tastes certainly seem broad. But most of the Creme/Viewlexx etc stuff is pretty electro.

The joke is, stir, I don't need a ten hour edit of Expressway because I have Evol on vinyl and it ends on a glorious lock groove! Shame on the CD for including the cover of bubblegum at the end instead of just letting the song skip for the rest of the CD.

i'm not a big fan of viewlexx but that i.f. presents the conservatives 12" is mega space disco.

It's pretty daunting to dissect the different genres and sub-genres that exist in the electronic and dance music spheres. It's a blotchy, confusing asterism.

Thanks to Dan and Dom for drawing some connections.

then try the same but type "beardo house" instead.

I'm never smoking pot again.

http://www.noordinarymonkey.com/

"suprises galore"

did someone say Harvey?

Caravan from Optimo at Night Time at Don Hills...

before, Dazzle Ships, same details as posted above.

Beardo/simply unshaven FAP

http://www.discopia.com/portal/issues/issue7/cosmic/document_view

has this ben posted up yet?

anybody else think that shit robot's 'triumph' sounds pretty cosmic?

http://www.rub-n-tug.com/images/beards.jpg

http://www.acuterecords.com/32606-1.gif

more here:
http://www.gotouring.com/razzledazzle/articles/dazzle3.html

"If you've caught a set by Manchester's own Moonboots lately, chances are you'll have heard a strung-out West Coast surf tune that sounds like the Beach Boys (vocal harmonies crooning about California) crossed with Ray Manzarek (psychedelic keyboards) over a wicked backbeat. Well it would have been this, the first release from High Feelings, Sweden's answer to Whatever We Want. "Leave Norway" is actually an extended re-edit of "Go To California" by Norwegian rockers Motorpsycho and if isn't the most listened to 12" on my Technics here at Piccadilly Records then I don't know what is. "Abf Woman" is another rock re-edit, the heavy rock blues interpolation of "Get Out Of My Life Woman" by (we think) Iron Butterfly."

ps - can a mod delete that link?

our guest dj is our friend Joshua, a consummate collector of obscure faux-jazzy post-punk funk 7"s and slick and soulfull 80s 12"s.

don't know what I'm gonna bring. Propaganda. The Doors. I dunno.

obviously the guy who took them has copyright so you prob can't use them for your flyer but i thought maybe people want to see what they look like??

four shots of eric rub'n'tug (first is with dash snow)

http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp/wp-content/photos/la.fiends.jpg
http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp/wp-content/photos/hands.up.dunks.jpg
http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp/wp-content/photos/dunksagain.jpg
http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp/wp-content/photos/fragilerocks.jpg

here's two of thomas rub'n'tug (dj'ing in a $150 visvim t-shirt)

http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp/wp-content/photos/IMG_1551.jpg
http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp/wp-content/photos/thomas.jpg

L-R: thomas, eric

http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp/wp-content/photos/rubntug1.jpg
http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp/wp-content/photos/rubntug2.jpg

publicity shot

http://www.anewyorkthing.com/wp/wp-content/photos/rubntug.gif

i can't remember if you're in LA or SF... if you're in LA you should consider driving down to OC (costa mesa, specifically) on may 26th to see them, and well, if you're in SF they'll be up there the next day, so...

i wasn't sure if it was supposed to be played at 45 or 33 the first time i listened to it.

it is.

this is how much of a nerd i am--i even took a picture of the record while it was spinning because i thought the name "goat dance" was funny:

http://www.theoriginalsoundtrack.com/art/goatdance.JPG

http://images.juno.co.uk/150/CS214760-01A.jpg

http://images.juno.co.uk/150/CS218611-01A.jpg

Oh, and the above offer for the Rub 'n Tug mixtape stands, as I've finally found it. Since ye olde Why Ess Eye is now forbidden, feel free to send me gmail requests or non-gmail requests for Rapidshare or suchlike. It's a single contiguous track at 192 kbps mp3.

http://www.gunclub.dj/

I will be there.

u coming to this?

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a383/firstworldman/flatrubntugduonofaces_mini.jpg

please come! and to be honest, presale would not be a bad idea!

820 W. 19th St.
Costa Mesa, CA 92627

:D

i got it on import at Halcyon but it was the only copy they had. might want to call around to them or TTL?

some fine Can and Sister Sledge edits on it, cant think of the others my brain doesnt function until i've had all my coffee. Many of the tracks on G4 Faggot were previewed by a friend of Betty's on those old YSI threads. nice one!

a close one!

just moved to hawaii so it literally came from the other side of the world.

the supreme edits came from turntablelab.com.

after previewing a few of those edits myself, (and especially flipping for "i'm an indian three") i jumped at the opportunity to have them on vinyl. nice work, betty- my favorite release to date!

Aug 12
Rub-N-Tug (Eskimo, aNYthing)
Escort “live” (NYC)

Aug 19
Mathew Johnson “live” (Wagon Repair, Vancouver B.C.)
Beppe Loda (Afro-Cosmic, Italy)
Lee Douglas (Rong Music)
Jeremy Campbell (Tropical Computer System)

In other news, not exactly "beardo", but "Sunday" by A Made Up Sound is pretty cool, chill-out jazz-house

couple more here that i haven't listened to yet (and don't have tracklistings like one above)
http://www.purepleasuremusic.com/mixes/

It's great. Someone's also just put out a bootleg comp of some of the tracks on it, which rather spoils the mystique, but is very handy.

Thanks for this thread, by the way - loads of ace stuff I'd never have heard of otherwise.

I don't know if these fit the bill or not, but some lovely eclectic mixes here http://dr.lloyd.free.fr/mixes.htm (which woebot pointed me in the direction of).

Ta ra.

Just got the 12" and am soooo into it right now. All because of your recommendation, yeeahhh.

I haven't listened to the Rub-n-Tug mix much yet but the only one I recognized right away is the once called "spleez", which is the instrumental to Spark's When I'm With You, played at the wrong speed of course.

?

http://blacknoise.blogspot.com it would be cool to get ids. I just found out that LA is thick with this stuff and the dates up above with mathew johnson and lee douglas look awesome

Jazz / Fusion:
Tony Esposito - Processione sul mare
Billy Cobham - Stratus
Harbie Hancock - Chameleon / Hang Up Your Hang Ups
Ralph MacDonald: Jam on the Groove
The Crusaders - Stomp and Buck Dance
Don Cherry - Brown Rice

not sure if you're talking about the "I Feel Music in your Heart" remix, but that's a great track

I haven't heard (of) this. Details please?

And returning to the Whatever We Want questions ...

How is the new Map of Africa? Who is Godsy? Why do they press so few copies?

It's called "Starlight" (Escort 001) and it's AWESOME. Such a convincing '70s disco sound that I can't believe it came out this year.

Escort isn't the easiest thing to google!

http://www.popsike.com/php/quicksearch.php?searchtext=quiet+village&thumbs=&x=0&y=0

i'm not attacking them here, just wondering if it's a strategy. a pretty smart one if it is. magazine writeups and dj gigs can be a lot more valuable than the margin on a few boxes of records.

and, what new map of africa?

Yeah, I thought the one with Dirty Lovin and Off The Coast was called the sound of the fens too. I wonder what it refers to as well. I thought 'fen' was only a East Anglian word/thing.

Rub & tug were at Fabric last weekend, but I couldn't make it. Did anyone go?

Is anyone else playing this sort of stuff in London at the minute?

it'd be a lot LOLer if there weren't DJs doing this shit for 25 years in italy

Better than releasing all ninety of your mixes on CASSETTE.

fucking losers.

What would be great is the chance to hear Beppe Loda in an intimate setting, like a small, cozy bar.

http://www.tropicalcomputersystems.com

http://www.tropicalcomputersystem.com/

01. Intro
02. Seven Deadly Strokes - Claude VonStroke (Neuton)
03. What Else Is There [The Emperor Machine Vocal Version] - Royksopp (Wall of Sound)
04. Evening Standard - Jesse Rose (Dubsided)
05. Let’s Get Busy - Curtis McClaine And On The House (Trax)
06. Turkish Tavern - Gary Martin (Teknotika)
07. Shemale [Black Strobe Mix] - Sir Drew (Adrift)
08. Atto D’Amore [Dub] - Serge Santiago (Arcobaleno)
09. Dragon [Shit Robot ‘Breathing Fire’ Remix] - Dondolo (Tiny Sticks)
10. Lonely Child [Satoshi Tomiie 3D Remix Dub] - Slok (Saw Recordings)
11. No Exit - Rufuss (Qalomota)
12. Come A Little Closer - Foolish & Sly (Cynic)
13. L’Asteroide [Original Impact Mix] - Nemesi (Relish)
14. Blackmoon - Force Of Nature (Libyus)
15. Discopolis - Lifelike And Kris Menace (Defected)
16. Engoli - Ame (Sonar Kollektiv)
17. Catch A Moment In Time [Ewan Pearson’s Memory Blessed Remix] - Mocky Ft. Taylor Savvy (Fine)

lookin' kinda trimmed. they clean up nicely.

plus why don't more people rep for ame. what i always hoped broken beat would sound like.

otm.

now if there was only something like this in SF so i wouldn't be so jealous of both of y'all.

I'm going thursday maybe for various reasons.

I can't go saturday, already have tickets to the YYY/Sonic Youth show at Mccarren Pool from ages ago. Didn't realize it was the same day as the Escort live set, otherwise I would've checked out Escort a few weeks back at the tribecca.

fwiw, we showed up a little after 10, when we found out what time Metro Area were supposed to go on we left. Caught them coming in as we were going out.

http://www.optimo.co.uk/esgart.jpg

And because Dan will do it if I don't: BEPPE LODA AT DAZZLE SHIPS!! AUG 23!! HEATHERS!!

all the talk of PS1 and yr club. i mean it's way better than the shit i get out here.

???????

Anyone heard this?

hmm.. fap?

only 2 minutes into it, but there's a buncha horror flick dialogue and the first piece of music is Goblin, so it might be a bit scary for those young lads out there.

http://www.discogs.com/release/714984

seems so!

i have no fucking idea who any of the names being dropped/discussed here are, but that mix is aewesoem

or

google

has most answers

-- grady, August 18th, 2006.

yup.

i stumbled across this on slsk (i think someone just put all the tracks in a folder together and they were in a different order, but its pretty great):

1. 7 Samurai Brothers
2. DJ Harvey Blue Love
3. Donald Byrd Wind Parade
4. Kano It's A War
5. Kelley Polar Here In The Night
6. Lindstrom & Prins Thomas Sykkelsesong
7. Maxence Cyrin Disco's Revenge (Original By Gusto)
8. Moxie Loving It
9. Ost & Kjex Have You Seen The Moon In Dallas (Maurice Fulton Remix 2)
10. Quiet Village Project Can't Be Beat
11. Sam-Jam Dance And Chant (Edit)
12. Serafin Starship Discothéque
13. Walter Murphy Afternoon Of A Faun

01. Maxence Cyrin - Disco's Revenge
(Original By Gusto) (2:18)				[F-Communications - F 236 CD - 2005]
02. Walter Murphy - Afternoon Of A Faun (8:02)		[Extended Pleasure - EP 001 - 2005 (1979)]
03. Quiet Village Project - Can't Be Beat (5:46)		[Whatever We Want Records - WWEW 002 - 2005]
04. Billy Paul - Let The Dollar Circulate (4:53)		[Philadelphia International Records - PIR 69207 - 1975]
05. DJ Harvey - Blue Love (3:36)			[Black Cock Records - BK 017 - ????]
06. 7 Samurai - Brothers (5:48)				[G.A.M.M. - GAMM 022 - 2005]
07. Moxie - Loving It (5:49)				[Moxie - Mx-008 - 2005]
08. Sam-Jam - Dance & Chant (Edit) (6:34)		[Martin - 30C 10159 - 1979]
09. Kelley Polar - Here In The Night (4:13)			[Environ - ENVCD005 - 2005]
10. Kano - It's A War (Edit) (2:45)			[Emergency Records - EMDS 6512 - 1980]
11. Lindstrom & Prins Thomas - Sykkelsesong (5:53)	[Eskimo Recordings -  541416 501428 - 2005]
12. Ost & Kjex - Have You Seen The Moon In Dallas
(Maurice Fulton Remix 2)				[Planet Noise - PN 22004 - 2004]
13. Serafin - Starship Discothéque (10:11)		[Liebe Detail - ld07 - 2005]
14. Donald Byrd - Wind Parade (6:05) 			[Blue Note - 54326 - 1997(1975)]

-- Dan Selzer (danselze...) (webmail), August 18th, 2006 8:22 PM.

O RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRLY

oh and domminique or anyone else: do you buy this stuff or get promos? i am going to be playing things like this on my syndicated college radio show and i am fine with buying the records when possible (or mp3s - also mixes), but promos are nice. are people approachable through myspace? i am especially interested in the new york contingent (and anyone else in the us). if anyone wants to help me out please shoot me an email. thanks!

Beats in Space is a radio show mixed live by Tim Sweeney in New York City on WNYU 89.1 FM... Tuesday nights from 10:30pm to 1:00am

http://www.beatsinspace.net

-- consigliere (c.t.mumme...), August 22nd, 2006.

quiet village had a lot of their stuff available for download thru myspace but that seems to be over. i think there is supposed to be an mp3 store in the works.

ps the record i have says "WEWW"

01. can't be beat
02. negro
03. too high to move
04. pillow talk
05. drax
06. circus of horrors
07. days

i think spoonful is my favorite mix so far this year.

very curious to hear this.

http://downrightuptight.com/smylonylon.html

dude was way ahead of the rest of us, NY at least.

any NYers ever been to 6's and 8's

http://nymag.com/listings/bar/6s_and_8s/index.html

weird. rub n tug myspace just says they are playing 205 Chrystie St so I googled the address and came up with that. maybe it's reopening under a new name.

probably wouldn't have ended up going anyway since I just got tix to thursday Soulwax thing @ studio B.

i had a quick listen to the mix and the track after lift boys is actually 'spin' by the impossible dreamers, an edit of which is on the first betty botox lp.

http://www.lailoni.com/thomas.mp3

i will relate it later on vahid's dance trends of 2007 thread

weekly starting this friday 22nd at sixes and eights

monkey crew, romper styles -

anton, phil & carlos

and for those of you that missed Lovefingers at Dazzle Ships last night. SHAME ON YOU.

he's from LA.

my mistake: sixes & eights now = 205 CLUB

with lush new sound...

Is it real? I looked but couldn't find it.

I had a look... I think it's gaetting a bit silly in there.
I'll stick to this thread.

http://blog.diskunion.net/user/yoppy/yoppy/image/3546.jpg

When is someone going to release a comp of this stuff?

The Quiet Village Dub version is pretty nice and deep.

A quiet village album would be nice.

let's do a 10 minute edit of "good vibrations".

And it is fucking sweet.

that said, i still love it all. even if it's the fakest dance genre ever. i want it to go EVEN MORE soft-rock/prog-rock. like a 2006 update of chill out or something.

HYPOCRITE

the lindstrom/prins album is just updated post-rock

haha xpost

basically agreeing with the notion "it's possible to be crate digging music and dance-rock at the same time" -- see "Losing My Edge" as exhibit A, not to mention a lot of Lindstrom stuff. It does appear to be difficult, however, to produce tracks using this really mellow source material without in turn mellowing, smoothing it down even more (possibly to accomodate the extended forms of most electronic dance music?), and taking more of the edge off.

i think this is an appropriate thing to say re: all the balearic stuff

xpost!!

for the record...I don't remember a time A.R.E. Weapons were actually popular, even with NY hipsters. Their shows were just parties filled with their friends, and they had lots of friends, but it never seemed to go any further then that.

xpost: dan, vahid is actually like the little boy who dunks the girls pigtails in the inkwell because he secretly likes her, don't worry.

generation gap??

how old are you?

xpost

(almost 30)

Well it's something!

kidding.

It's so fucking good. I would name a group that based on that blurb alone. Also the cover:
http://members.aol.com/djadamson8/qv300.jpg

YES

What is wrong with balearic? Also, where does deep house fit in?

heh, i just got an online store email about a sampler for this mix:

http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.asp?ID=8070

growing up in canada i find it so funny that corey hart's o.g. version of 'sunglasses at night' is a considered to be 'rare' in some parts

What is wrong with balearic?

a bunch of london soul djs go to ibiza in the late 80's, take a load of e and hear djs playing house music, nitzer ebb and manuel gottsching and think this is revolutionary. they come back and decide they have invented balearic. clubs all over the world (even in london) were doing exactly the same thing at that time. it was pretty normal but because they were so insular they didn't have a clue. as they are in with all the right media people, they get the credit for starting a musical revolution. tossers.

12. The Osmonds - iii (Quiet Village No-edit)

wtf is a no-edit? please don't tell me they changed nothing and added their name

Ungggggghh, na-nah na-nah
Make em say UNGGGGGGH (UNGGGGGGH)
Na-nah na-nah (na-nah na-nah)